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Speaker 1: This is Hanging with the Boys, presented by Windstuff where

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Speaker 1: flavor gets its wings.

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Speaker 3: Now your hosts.

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon.

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Speaker 4: Gross Its stirsday one week, seven days from the twenty

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Speaker 3: Did you go to the concert? We'll get to that

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Speaker 3: Shan is not here today. He's out. Who knows what

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Speaker 3: he's doing, frolicking in the blue bonnets. Frolicking in the

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Speaker 3: blue bonnets. I am salt and pepper poppy. Together we

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Speaker 3: Seahawks and cowboysmble. The snap kicking enough. Uh you know

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Speaker 3: the concert, the A C D C. I did not

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Speaker 5: I actually looked at tickets. There just too much, too.

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Speaker 3: Much, you know, getting out on a Monday night.

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Speaker 5: I'm just told getting out on a Monday night.

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Speaker 3: All right, this show has brought you back. Oh, this

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Speaker 3: show is brought to you by Wing Stop Flavor gets hits.

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Speaker 3: You got about that, forgot about that, forgot about It's important,

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Speaker 3: very important, very important. Wings are good. They got that

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Speaker 3: hot honey. Yeah, that hot honey is something serious. I

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Speaker 3: can I can eat thirty of those hot honeys. Man

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Speaker 3: flats fry hard. What's up?

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Speaker 6: Nate? You good? Oh man, I'm great, I'm great.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you're doing well? Yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: That's good.

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Speaker 3: Over there, good over there, that's feeling.

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to make sure I'm in my box. I

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Speaker 7: don't want Chris and the upper management coming at me.

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Speaker 6: Back this box, man box to them, get out your box.

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Speaker 3: You been traveling lately?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, just this local man. Nothing big nothing, big

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Speaker 7: man and big all right.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I guess I don't know if it's big news.

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Speaker 3: It is big news sad news. Another Dallas cowboy great

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Speaker 3: retired yesterday. Tyron Smith, after thirteen NFL seasons twelve with

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys, finally called it quits. He had his his

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Speaker 3: presser upstairs. All the offensive linemen were there, teammates were there,

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Speaker 3: Michael was there, Garrett was there, of course.

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Speaker 6: Jason Jason Garrett was there. Garrett was there, Nate.

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Speaker 3: Where does Tyron Smith land in the pantheon of Cowboys

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Speaker 3: offensive line legacy?

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Speaker 6: I think top five guy, top five yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: For tackles, you know, the Big Cat and all of

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Speaker 7: them guys. Yeah, he he a top five. I don't

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Speaker 7: think it's what Larry Allen, I can't think of the

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Speaker 7: All Pro Hall of Famer just passed ray Phield.

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Speaker 6: Right, it ain't been.

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Speaker 7: It ain't been that many great I think tackles.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying top five tackles, but not top five

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Speaker 7: Uh yeah, he probably he probably top five, top six, Yeah, yeah, easily,

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Speaker 7: yeah he he. He did his thing, man, you know,

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Speaker 7: because you gotta put Zach and there, you know, Larry Allen,

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Speaker 7: ray Phield, uh Nalan, Yeah, there's there's some horses in

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Speaker 7: the big ee for a short impact.

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Speaker 6: He turned down here. He was part of the culture

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Speaker 6: built and building up the nineties team. So it's a.

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Speaker 7: Few guys and it ain't it ain't a lot that

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Speaker 7: I get some love to.

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Speaker 3: Now, Kurt, that makes that's the second of that great

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Speaker 3: that second coming of the great wall that the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: had in the twenty I guess, I guess what do

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Speaker 3: We had Zach Martin do his retirement a couple of

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Speaker 3: I know that Jerry said it, Uh, do you think

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Speaker 5: I think that you have to put them in together

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Speaker 5: But I mean there's so many other great guys. Are

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Speaker 5: committee has said, you know, we've there's so much, such

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Speaker 5: first balloders unless there's a really, really really strong case

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Speaker 5: whether the guys have.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's so sad, my friends, is if these

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Speaker 7: Do their jobs, it should never be a such thing

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Speaker 7: as a backlog of Hall of Famers.

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Speaker 6: You either that or you're not.

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Speaker 7: You know, each year you come up, somebody presents you,

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Speaker 6: You're either good at and.

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Speaker 7: You know, even here with the Cowboys, you can put

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Speaker 6: Top this and top that. But I'm not finish. It

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Speaker 6: ain't a four or five guy.

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Speaker 7: When I go to thinking of offensive lineman for the Dallas,

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Speaker 7: Now everybody else is subject to whatever game you want

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Speaker 7: to play. That's simple, and this should be that. It's

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Speaker 6: The Hall of Fame. You know who the dogs were.

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Speaker 7: Now you may categorize who in the eighties, who was

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Speaker 6: So on so forth, But.

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Speaker 7: No, it ain't No, Just like Dion said, it is

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Speaker 6: He's like, hey, if a guy, wow you he's a

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Speaker 7: If you got to go and say, well, tell, let's

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Speaker 7: go to looking up like nine hundred thousand stats to

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Speaker 7: I'm saying? Go extra players? R. H. Rayphiel Wright played

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Speaker 7: with him, mister Green for the stealers to this day,

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Speaker 7: to this day, you can ask people, man, it wasn't

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Speaker 6: For him, you know, so, man, I hate that, you.

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Speaker 3: Know as as because of course I was. I was

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Speaker 3: the first thing that comes to your mind is just

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Speaker 3: the size of the human being. Yes, right, Like he's

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Speaker 3: this mammoth of mammoth of a main right and one

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Speaker 3: of the first people I've seen where six foot six,

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Speaker 3: It was one of the things, like I was like,

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Speaker 3: DeMarcus said he tyron punched him and he told him,

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Speaker 5: Wasn't there some like a I don't know, a young

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Speaker 3: I remember, like I remember Orlando Scandrick one time coming

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Speaker 3: And it was like when we watched that on film,

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Speaker 3: But let me ask you guys this. You hear Zach

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Speaker 3: Martin's name, you hear Tyron Smith's name. It goes back

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Speaker 3: to the conversation we had about a month and a

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Speaker 3: half ago. Another cowboy great goes out without saying that

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Speaker 3: he won a Super Bowl, and that list, that list

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Speaker 3: about Ring of Honor guys, guys who potentially be Hall

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Speaker 3: Whitton and Tony Romo and Frederickson. I mean, you name

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Speaker 3: certain time frames without those players being being on it

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Speaker 3: were Dallas Cowboys and did not hoist the Lombardi Trophy.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy. I mean, it's how does that happen? I mean,

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Speaker 5: all these great players come through and they even come close.

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Speaker 3: This guy, I can't relate.

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Speaker 7: Because got the first five or six years, you know,

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Speaker 7: we but you know what, I can't because we didn't

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Speaker 6: I thought about it. It bothered me all night.

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Speaker 6: He say, draft a player that brings hope.

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Speaker 7: Went to thinking it didn't show right away. But Michael

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Speaker 7: And when Troy all of a sudden, they boys, I

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Speaker 7: Mike said something there when you can bring a player

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Speaker 6: I'm going over there and you just see somebody out

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Speaker 6: Ask He always had time to talk football. Hey Mike,

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Speaker 7: Who is that guy that they either can draft or

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Speaker 5: We need hope that we're working on a documentary about

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Speaker 5: the Dirty Dozen all talked about the same thing. That

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Speaker 7: I think, and tell us who they are?

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Speaker 3: He went the whole list.

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Speaker 3: Of I'm telling you, jes let's let's let's go to

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Speaker 3: Is that an approach and I'll start with you, Nate.

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Speaker 3: Is that an approach that Brian Shottenhammer can take and

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Speaker 3: will it be successful?

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Speaker 7: It if they let him have the rains all the way, Jess,

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Speaker 7: if mister Jones and company let him have the rains

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Speaker 7: all the way and let him take it to the end.

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Speaker 7: I'm talking about to the end of the season. It's

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Speaker 7: gonna be some shaky times, some rocky times. Coach I

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Speaker 7: think is prepared for that. If we don't have excuse me,

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Speaker 7: if he doesn't have him and his staff interference. Let

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Speaker 7: this be a out him building this team. You know,

449
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Speaker 7: and I don't like to compare like much like Detroit ownership.

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Speaker 7: Let their young coach now who's.

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Speaker 6: Got his team?

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Speaker 3: Campbell?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, give it may be some losing it. I know

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Speaker 7: you gave him six months to a year, but let

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Speaker 7: him go to a.

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Speaker 3: Year and six months, a year and a half I

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Speaker 3: gave him a year and a half.

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Speaker 6: Did you hear him last?

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Speaker 3: I was a year and a half. Right, a year

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Speaker 3: and a half, I said, the season. And then halfway

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Speaker 3: through the next season. If we don't get it right,

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Speaker 3: you might you might see him get asked.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean. You're saying, Okay, a season

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Speaker 5: and a half, you get like the year didn't start now,

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Speaker 5: I mean he's got.

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Speaker 3: No I'm giving him this entire foot seasons.

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Speaker 5: Okay, half of next sekon and.

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Speaker 3: Then like till January or February.

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Speaker 6: Be a little more specific, whenever it ends.

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Speaker 7: If they don't win at least seven games, that things

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Speaker 7: start earning.

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Speaker 6: With him.

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Speaker 3: No, seven games, that's gonna be. It's gonna start early

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Speaker 3: with a lot of folks.

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Speaker 6: You too, who you know.

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Speaker 3: If they don't get seven wins this year, man, it's

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Speaker 3: going you're gonna be looking around.

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Speaker 7: Like, no, no, see, you gave you open this thing

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Speaker 7: up nice, you know, heat the crawfish ball, this that

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Speaker 7: and the other.

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Speaker 6: You you and you say what do you think then?

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Speaker 6: And I gave you my opinion, don't do that.

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Speaker 3: You just you did it. I was trying to help

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Speaker 3: build the culture. And then you went down through me

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Speaker 3: out there said I give six months.

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Speaker 6: I said six months a year.

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Speaker 7: This will be an ugly season. This, this is gonna

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Speaker 7: be an ugly season. This is gonna be something this

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Speaker 7: organization and fan base hasn't seen in a while.

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Speaker 3: Yes, when you say ugly, it can be anywhere.

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Speaker 6: From five wins, wow, six maybe seven?

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Speaker 3: This is gone like this is a full relayer currently

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Speaker 3: as we sit today.

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Speaker 6: Yes, this is a full team.

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Speaker 3: Isn't far off in what they were a year ago? Right,

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Speaker 3: the draft hasn't happened yet, so you may be able

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Speaker 3: to add some impact players. However that thing may shake out.

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Speaker 3: And last year with their quarterback missing eight games, nine games,

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Speaker 3: ten games, they had seven wins. You saying DAK is

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Speaker 3: not good for at least that?

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Speaker 6: Plus two, you have new coaches, You have a.

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Speaker 3: Coach who was in your system. Do you just changes?

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Speaker 6: Do you have I can't think of the kid name.

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Speaker 6: I wanted him to stay.

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Speaker 7: He was a tackle, defensive tackle, defensive and I can't

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Speaker 7: think of his name. But anyway, that our depth is depleted.

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Speaker 7: We have no corners.

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Speaker 6: Where are our linebackers? Uh?

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Speaker 7: This is this is a full rebuilding. This is what

510
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Speaker 7: I'm going to keep telling fans this is a full rebuild.

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Speaker 7: Ride with this man. Ride with him if you're if

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Speaker 7: you're not, just be from the start because he's trying

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Speaker 7: to build something. And if mister Jones in the upper

514
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Speaker 7: echelon stay out of the way, give him full Ah, well,

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Speaker 7: that's not responsibility.

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Speaker 6: They have to.

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Speaker 3: That's not happen. It hasn't happened. That's not happening.

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Speaker 6: Like you got on the Jacksonville Jaguar.

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00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 3: We we know what that is going to look like,

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Speaker 3: right like it's it's it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna happen. You got to if you don't give

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Speaker 6: him the full deal. Now you you has he ever,

523
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Speaker 6: you have to sometime.

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Speaker 3: Last time they won three Super Bowls, two and then

525
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Speaker 3: the third one came off the stuff that the first

526
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Speaker 3: the guy that the first you did and we ain't

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Speaker 3: seen it.

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Speaker 5: Since true to say, what kind of feel like what

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00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 5: he's doing now will depend we'll look back on now

530
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Speaker 5: Like if they have a decent season, we're like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: grad he built the culture that.

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Speaker 6: He's trying to build a culture.

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Speaker 5: They have a bad scene, it's gonna be like, why

534
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Speaker 5: didn't he start a week earlier? Why didn't he Why guys,

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Speaker 5: I kind of feel like, right now, we won't really

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Speaker 5: judge this.

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Speaker 3: You the hope that they need right now, You've got

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Speaker 3: a lot of hope over there.

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Speaker 5: I like it.

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Speaker 6: We don't know this guy.

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Speaker 7: I know Jesse, I know Kurt, and we can we

542
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 7: can talk all day. But that's like, uh, this new

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00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 7: guy they got on the show before us.

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Speaker 6: You know, I can't think of his name.

545
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Speaker 7: I don't know him, so I can't joke with him

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Speaker 7: or say certain things. You know, he's not gonna know

547
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Speaker 7: when I'm serious. I'm not, you know, So we got

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00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 7: to feel one another out. They are trying to fill

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Speaker 7: their coach out. Don't interject, mister Jones or Will or Steven.

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Speaker 6: Don't interject it. Well, I don't like how things going when.

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Speaker 7: They when they open that door and say, hey, to

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Speaker 7: holler at you, and is it about the coach yet? No,

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Speaker 7: you can't holler at me now if it's about your

554
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 7: contract or you know, stuff like that. But whether you

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Speaker 7: plan or not, you can't holler at me. You went

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Speaker 7: and got a new offensive line coach supposed to be

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Speaker 7: the world. Come on, if he's the world, he may

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Speaker 7: see Austin Richards has a better right tackle.

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Speaker 6: Hey man, well we just heiny, coach. We know we

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Speaker 6: just paid such and such, but this dude is the better,

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Speaker 6: better tackle.

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Speaker 7: If you're not gonna start on those basis, you're definitely

563
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Speaker 7: not gonna win seven games. Play the best player. Let

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Speaker 7: these guys know that they have to compete.

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Speaker 3: Jess, listen, I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: We are just saying it's not real.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's reality. I think what you're saying

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Speaker 3: is right. I think what you're saying is fruitful. I

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Speaker 3: think I do. I think what you're saying is fruitful.

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Speaker 3: I think I think I wish it had legs. I

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Speaker 3: wish it had real, reliable, strong legs.

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Speaker 6: But I just what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: When I started here, I didn't have gray hairs. I've

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Speaker 3: been hit long enough to that gray hairs beginning developed.

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Speaker 3: That means I've seen some things. I've experienced.

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Speaker 6: Something might be the.

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Speaker 3: Best bet, might be our best bet right there? All right, man,

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Speaker 3: let's go to our final break of the show. When

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Speaker 6: More than three picks.

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Speaker 3: But it's a good thing to know that no matter

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Speaker 3: A Dingjai A d e n i j I A Dingjai. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: five that they've put on this team so far. So

659
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Speaker 3: that's clearly Nate, you were talking about earlier they had

660
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Speaker 3: this offensive line coach and he's supposed to be the world. Well,

661
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: get they're trying to give him some depth and there

662
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: will be some competition happening at the offensive line. And

663
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that that puts you out of the

664
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Speaker 3: running for an offensive lineman, but you've addressed this need

665
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Speaker 3: at least somewhat. However you feel about where they did

666
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Speaker 3: at the bargain basement, whatever on the guy you this.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if this is going to take you

668
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Speaker 5: off your path were going on. But because they drafted

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Speaker 5: to tackle last year, does that hamper them at all

670
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Speaker 5: this year? I mean, are you ready to Don't you

671
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 5: need to let him? You already spent that high a

672
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 5: draft capital capital last year. Don't you need to give

673
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Speaker 5: him a chance of develop?

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Speaker 3: Or is it like so on I go ahead, you speak.

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Speaker 7: It depends on what this this new offensive line coach

676
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Speaker 7: and how much pool you're giving him in your in

677
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 7: your in your war room. Uh, you have went out

678
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 7: and got a bunch of offensive linemen. A lot of

679
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 7: them are veteran type guys. Uh, you've already on your depth.

680
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 7: Chot slated a guy at your right Uh, at your

681
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 7: right guard that is not Brock Coffin.

682
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Speaker 6: It's Robert Jones.

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Speaker 7: So this, this is the effect of the new coach,

684
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 7: the new offensive line coach, you know, saying this is

685
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Speaker 7: who we're going to start with.

686
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Speaker 6: So uh, if he.

687
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 7: Is telling mister Jones, hey man, trust we got enough.

688
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 7: Mister Jones gonna move on him the next They're gonna okay,

689
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 7: and unless something special. They say it's one kid from Missouri.

690
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 7: They say he's supposed to be the Warrior. So I

691
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Speaker 7: don't know. I gave it on the draft three four

692
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Speaker 7: years ago. I did because you what, what is obvious

693
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 7: for me? It's not obvious for Jess and you.

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Speaker 3: But go ahead, ones, Yeah, no, you look at the

695
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Speaker 3: draft and you have a contingent of people who are

696
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Speaker 3: saying trade back, right, trade back.

697
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Speaker 6: Now.

698
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Speaker 3: The thing about trading back is you need a dance partner.

699
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 3: You have to have somebody who wants to come up.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if this draft, and it's it's

701
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Speaker 3: probably going to be a weird one, but I don't

702
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: know if this draft has enough top in blue chip

703
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 3: talent that people are trying to for sure get up

704
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: into the draft to get Most people are probably like,

705
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Speaker 3: you know what, I can probably get the guy that

706
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Speaker 3: I want if I just stay right here, you know,

707
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 3: and not have to give up any draft capital, because

708
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: you got to give up if you're twenty, let's just

709
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: use that round number if you're twenty. If you're twenty

710
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Speaker 3: one and you're trying to move up to twelve, that's

711
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 3: going to cost you that that spot plus a second,

712
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Speaker 3: maybe a third, you know.

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Speaker 5: So I think, to me, the best case scenarios what

714
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Speaker 5: happen in twenty twenty one when they only drop back

715
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Speaker 5: two spots, but they got a third. I think out

716
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Speaker 5: of that, and that's when they got Parsons in Gholston.

717
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Speaker 5: But like you said, they have so many needs, they

718
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Speaker 5: could drop back to three spots and still get a

719
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Speaker 5: guy they need. But once you start drafting, you know,

720
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Speaker 5: you drop into the twenties, then maybe you're missing out.

721
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Speaker 7: Of But my issue is simple to this right here,

722
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Speaker 7: and it always has men sure fire when you drop back,

723
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Speaker 7: even when you pick at twelve, it's nothing sure fire.

724
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Speaker 7: But when we get halfway through the season, we done

725
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Speaker 7: dropped back. I don't want to be guessing on that,

726
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Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. That guy we got at

727
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Speaker 7: twenty five and then the guy we got at thirty four,

728
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Speaker 7: I don't want to be guessing. I want to be

729
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 7: seeing him. I want to be seeing him, whether he's

730
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Speaker 7: good or not. I want to be seeing him because

731
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Speaker 7: I'm one of the few people believing that this thing

732
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 7: is gonna go bad. So I need to be developing

733
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Speaker 7: this talent. So whoever you decide to drop back and get,

734
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 7: please play them, hopefully that they are good enough to contribute.

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Speaker 3: All let's go. Let's go round table and just see Kurt.

736
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Speaker 3: You're in the draft room. You control the car that

737
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Speaker 3: gets handed in for the commissioner to announce. At the

738
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Speaker 3: number twelve pick, you could name a player, or you

739
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Speaker 3: can name a position that you want that you think

740
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Speaker 3: and want, no, no, no, that you want the Cowboys to draft.

741
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Speaker 5: Well, first off, I'm kind of green with I listened

742
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 5: to last week's show, and I kind of agree with

743
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Speaker 5: you guys. I don't want a running back at twelve,

744
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 5: even though there's some good ones in there, for sure,

745
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 5: I just think there's enough. So, you know, I think

746
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 5: that the receiver, I think it's got to be receiver.

747
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 5: Golden or McMillan is hopefully there. I would I would.

748
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Speaker 5: I know you like the Ohio State kid, but I

749
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Speaker 5: don't know. I think just with the quality of talent

750
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Speaker 5: you're going to get there, Unles's one of those big

751
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 5: guys up front, like the Missouri kid drops down, you know,

752
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Speaker 5: I don't know. I think I would think I would

753
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Speaker 5: go a receiver there.

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00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 3: Receiver, So give give CD lamb his give the batman

755
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: his his Robbin, a great running mate so he can

756
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 3: go out there and not just be Cede Lamb and

757
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 3: a bunch of Maybies, but actually Cede Lamb and the

758
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: viable option at number two. Not mad at that at all, Nate,

759
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Speaker 3: You're on the clock number twelve.

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Speaker 6: Pick. That is so sad.

761
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Speaker 7: And I was sitting at the table with somebody I'm

762
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Speaker 7: not gonna call their name, and.

763
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Speaker 6: And we have C. D. Lamb, and we said it

764
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Speaker 6: last year. We have C. D. Lamb, one of the.

765
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Speaker 7: Top four receivers in the league, and we can't we

766
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Speaker 7: can't even say the other guy's names, you know, like

767
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 7: you have to go to True TV to see the Jalens.

768
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

769
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Speaker 5: The Athletic you know what I'm saying. Athletic ranked all

770
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Speaker 5: the post and they said the Cowboys have a bottom

771
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Speaker 5: five receivering Corps Lamb. They still have a bottom five.

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Speaker 7: And I'm not gonna even Butcher, the kids name that

773
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Speaker 7: we got from from the Panthers, Jonathan Mingo. I'm not

774
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 7: going eat Butcher's name. So with that being said, uh,

775
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 7: Dallas Cowboys, with the twelfth figure.

776
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 6: Of the draft, please go get the kid from Missourie.

777
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Speaker 3: Oh you're talking about my membo.

778
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, go get him, because I don't want to be thinking.

779
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 7: Just think we we for the last two months of

780
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Speaker 7: the season, and it's this last week. All we've been

781
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 7: talking about is Zach Martin, and now we're talking about Tyrone.

782
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 7: Go get what makes everybody great, that's the offensive line.

783
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 6: Go get the tempo setter.

784
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Speaker 3: And talking about what you just said and you alluded

785
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Speaker 3: to a little bit earlier, Kurt, I don't know if

786
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 3: Jesse's talking I've moved on from Tyler Goydon, even though

787
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: I kind of I said I was gonna be kinder

788
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 3: to him in this offseason. I don't believe that they

789
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: have moved on.

790
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 6: No, they haven't. They can't.

791
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Speaker 3: But if that's the case, if you're saying, go and

792
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 3: get Arma memble, we've moved on. We were saying, now

793
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 3: Tyler go, we're gonna all right, you're gonna be or

794
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: we're gonna see how you play it guard as well.

795
00:42:54,280 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 3: So it's like as far as the left tackle and

796
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: I and maybe this is just this is it's cosmetic,

797
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: it's it's vain. I don't think the Cowboys want to

798
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: go no flair, no flair two years want to go

799
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Speaker 3: offensive lineman. Offensive lineman is not you're not selling you know,

800
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: you're not selling no jerseys. You're not selling. You ain't selling.

801
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: Tyler guy ain't gonna never ever be a top jersey seller.

802
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: And if you go get on my members, if you

803
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 3: go get Will Campbell, if you go get Kelvin Banks,

804
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: Junior Simmons, they ain't never gonna be selling that many jersey.

805
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 3: They ain't gonna be on the cover of magazines, They

806
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: ain't leading commercials. You can't put them out there in

807
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: the community first as the face them entu thiguring out

808
00:43:54,040 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 3: the support. But they definitely will. So I think about

809
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: when you say off the lineman, and I agree with

810
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 3: you the trenches need to be secured, both offensively and defensively.

811
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Speaker 3: But I don't know if they're gonna go no flare,

812
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: no flare, So what's the flair?

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00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 5: Those guys you're talking about probably won't be there a towelve.

814
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, it may not be it's receiver, it's over

815
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Speaker 3: it's receiver. It is it is. It is flashy enough,

816
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 3: it is impactful enough. It's where everyone is talking about

817
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 3: the Cowboys should go. There's a need that running backs,

818
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: the need that receiver. There's a need that cornerbacks need

819
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 3: that linebackers and need that defensive you know, defensive interior,

820
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: defensive lineman for unless somehow, some way, I don't know,

821
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: gas mask photos come out of Travis Hunter on on

822
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: Draft night, right and he falls back or a dual

823
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: Carter falls back. It has to be receiver.

824
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 7: That's my that's my CD. If a due card fall

825
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 7: within two or three spots, man give it, get third

826
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 7: because it gotta be. What we need is an impactful

827
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 7: player of fellas we need. And you know, you know,

828
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 7: I talked to Heck Maharrison and he and he just

829
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 7: so stuck on the offense line. And I say, you

830
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 7: can be stuck on offense lineman. I said, but come

831
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 7: next Thursday and they called another position.

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Speaker 6: That's over.

833
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

834
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Speaker 7: So we can debate all we want, but I'm with you,

835
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Speaker 7: and I'm with Mike, and I'm with probably of the

836
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 7: Cowboys this year.

837
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 6: You you gotta go out and get a player that

838
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 6: brings hope.

839
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 7: And normally it's not Eric Williams like Eric was, but

840
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 7: he was the second year guy when he brought this flair.

841
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 6: So I'm with you, Jesse, I'm with you.

842
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: You know my my my favorite fit for the Cowboys

843
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: is a Mecca Abuka but everyone is right now has

844
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: had the receiver out of Texas, Matthew Golden, Yes, coming

845
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 3: to the Cowboys, and so there's been a lot of

846
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: buzz around that particular main name.

847
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 6: But what's so good about him, Jess.

848
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: It's it's it's the speed. He ran a four to

849
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 3: two nine at the combine. He's a good receiver, strong hands,

850
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 3: can get in and out.

851
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Speaker 6: Of hein't gonna make that repull at him is.

852
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. I might be trying to show out

853
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: getting the ball out there that far, So I don't know.

854
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: But uh, if you're looking at where and who and

855
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: how the draft should go, yeah you should go and

856
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: check my boy workout, my boy, my boy curtain others.

857
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Speaker 3: As a senior editor around here, the big khnas around here,

858
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Speaker 3: the big editor. Uh, they got the draft guy at

859
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Speaker 3: the Star.

860
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 6: What do you guys call Who is that guy in

861
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Speaker 6: the middle, the big tackle.

862
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Speaker 3: Kevin Banks?

863
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Go to Dallas Cowboys dot com slash Star and you

866
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 5: can find out we're I think we're about we're trying

867
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Speaker 5: to get we're sold out of the print online. We're

868
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Speaker 5: trying to get some more online. But they're available in

869
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Speaker 5: stores and the digital issues available as well.

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Speaker 3: So if y'all hit me up, I'll steal this one

871
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Speaker 3: and give it.

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Speaker 6: To you right price, the right price.

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Speaker 3: I know, you know what, you know what, you know,

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Speaker 3: got a couple of the costs. But all right, man,

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Speaker 3: that's it for us. I appreciate you guys. Kurty, Oh, Chris,

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Speaker 3: who you drafted? He's putting in drafted. That's why didn't

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Speaker 3: bother he was who drafting my drafting?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just your position. You ain't got to say a

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Speaker 6: player or nothing.

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Speaker 12: Uh, we'll go with Well, I need a running back.

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Speaker 12: I really don't don't running back. We get that in

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Speaker 12: the second round.

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Speaker 7: If we get that kid from boys enough kid North Carolina,

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Speaker 7: North Carolina.

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Speaker 12: If gent falls, which he's probably not going to falls,

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Speaker 12: you better get that. You get hit that button quick

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Speaker 12: enough to get to pick him. Okay, don't wait for

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Speaker 12: any call, just picking I man, that's it for us.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Are we having a show next Thursday on draft day?

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Speaker 12: I mean that's the plan, all right, y'all want to

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Speaker 12: do you guys?

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Speaker 3: Let me know? All right, well that's the plan today.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what happens tomorrow. If not, we'll see you

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Speaker 3: uh soon. Let's just go with that, we'll see you soon.

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Speaker 3: We'll let you know. Keep keep keep keep looking out for.

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Speaker 6: You, keep both hands in there. We'll want you to

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Speaker 6: come back with swove forms.

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Speaker 3: All right, for Kurt, for Nate, uh for, for Chris,

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Speaker 3: Beam in the back, Salt and Pepper poppy Man. That's

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Speaker 3: our show man. We see you guys next week.

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