WEBVTT - Rams' Win for Los Angeles, Darnold's Disaster and McCarthy Moves on From Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>From the thirty nine of LA Third Down and eight

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<v Speaker 1>Rams on defense protecting a touchdown, leave Donald against the rush.

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<v Speaker 1>What's coming?

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<v Speaker 2>Please hit scoop, scoop up, Jennifers, tell the right sideline

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<v Speaker 2>with lockers turn.

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<v Speaker 3>Five tunning time.

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<v Speaker 2>The defensive rookie of the year with a scoop stretch

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<v Speaker 2>store on wild Card weekend and it's a Callum winnerspoon

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<v Speaker 2>to Jarrett Loose.

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<v Speaker 3>Are our friends JB Log and MJB with the great

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<v Speaker 3>call of the great Jared Verse. No one was catching him.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what was his forty time? My god gets

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<v Speaker 3>into the end zone for a scoop and score on

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<v Speaker 3>a night when the Rams defense had Sam Donald seeing ghosts.

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<v Speaker 3>The Rams win twenty seven to nine to cap wild

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<v Speaker 3>Card Weekend in a crazy game in Glendale, Arizona. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>here back in Los Angeles. It's not as smoky as

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<v Speaker 3>it was a couple of nights ago, Nick shook, And

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<v Speaker 3>for that we have a lot of thanks to give

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of Rams fans around the Southland, around

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles, and the ones who got up early this

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<v Speaker 3>morning to take all those buses that were going from

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<v Speaker 3>Sofi to bring them to Glendale are happy tonight because

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<v Speaker 3>it was over after that touchdown. It was a party

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<v Speaker 3>for this Rams defense.

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<v Speaker 4>What a night, Yeah, one to night, indeed one night

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<v Speaker 4>for less sneed it drafted Jared Verse, Braden Fisk making

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<v Speaker 4>a play, that defensive front that he rebuilt after the

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<v Speaker 4>departure of Aaron Donald coming through in a defense that

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<v Speaker 4>just played phenomenally and absolutely shut down the explosive Vikings

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<v Speaker 4>and really made quite a statement with this win. That

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<v Speaker 4>Verse fumble recovery in return for a touchdown, It made

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<v Speaker 4>it what seventeen to three. It felt like the final

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<v Speaker 4>blow right then and there, like they were never going

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<v Speaker 4>to recover from that. That was how good of a

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<v Speaker 4>game they played defensively, and what a resounding win for

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<v Speaker 4>these Rams.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was another rough one for Sam Donald and

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get into that, but the defensive performance was amazing

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<v Speaker 3>and the way the Rams offense came out to start

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<v Speaker 3>this game and set the tone with a touchdown drive

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<v Speaker 3>just like they did against the Vikings the first time

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<v Speaker 3>route in so far, and then get another score to

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<v Speaker 3>go up two scores, ten to nothing in the blink

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<v Speaker 3>of an eye. And Sam Donald wasn't really ready for it,

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't ready for that moment, and before we get into

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<v Speaker 3>the whys of it all, I do think about everything

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<v Speaker 3>that's happened this week here and we've chronicled it on

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<v Speaker 3>NFL Daily some and I think about this Rams team, who,

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<v Speaker 3>one year after the pandemic, when people are just getting

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<v Speaker 3>back to normal and you're just getting used to sofis

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<v Speaker 3>even being a thing that fans can go to, they

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<v Speaker 3>win a Super Bowl title and kind of stamp themselves,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this city's football team in a way that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they had been since they had returned

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<v Speaker 3>from Saint Louis. And fast forward to now, but both

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<v Speaker 3>them and the Chargers are in the playoffs this year,

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<v Speaker 3>but they get affected, their practice gets affected. Last week

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<v Speaker 3>they go to Glendale and it's this season where they

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<v Speaker 3>were one and four and they make it to the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 3>and you don't know how many more years Stafford and

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<v Speaker 3>McVay are going to have together. And this is actually

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<v Speaker 3>their first win since that Super Bowl title. And I

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<v Speaker 3>do think about NFL seasons. Not everyone can win the

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<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl, and it's going to be disappointing whenever this

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<v Speaker 3>Rams season ends for them unless they win it. And

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<v Speaker 3>yet sometimes I do think one win can make it

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<v Speaker 3>all worth it. And maybe that can be a regular

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<v Speaker 3>season win, but usually it's a playoff win. And even

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<v Speaker 3>if the road ends in Philadelphia, I really do think

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<v Speaker 3>this is a win in that Rams fans will treasure

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<v Speaker 3>and remember forever, and Stafford will as well when they're

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about it in twenty years, even if they don't

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<v Speaker 3>go on that, Hey, we got another one a few

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<v Speaker 3>years after that Super Bowl and it was that week

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<v Speaker 3>and when we faced a lot of challenges, and we

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<v Speaker 3>faced challenges that season, and it kind of showed what

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<v Speaker 3>they were all about as this next generation of like

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<v Speaker 3>Rams young players.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, go on, Yeah, they're gonna be sitting around

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<v Speaker 4>the Thanksgiving table or just the dinner table, or maybe

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<v Speaker 4>a reunion of old teammates years from now, and think

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<v Speaker 4>back to you remember that time we had to go

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<v Speaker 4>out to Glendale because you know, there were wildfires around

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<v Speaker 4>and we couldn't practice and we couldn't play in our

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<v Speaker 4>home stadium when we had earned the right to host

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<v Speaker 4>a playoff game. Remember how the Cardinals organization bent over

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<v Speaker 4>backward to make sure that it felt as close to

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<v Speaker 4>home as it could be. They got the same color

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<v Speaker 4>paint to paint the field that we would use and

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<v Speaker 4>everything else. Remember all those fans who came out to

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona to support us, and then we went out and

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<v Speaker 4>played inspired football. That was the thing that really stood

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<v Speaker 4>out to me from the opening drive. The Rams played

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<v Speaker 4>with the purpose that exceeded the playoffs. This was about

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<v Speaker 4>more than just when a playoff game that was a

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<v Speaker 4>home game away from home. This is about playing for

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<v Speaker 4>the entire city, in the entire Los Angeles area, and

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<v Speaker 4>they represented them so well. And there's no way, considering

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<v Speaker 4>all that has happened that people won't look back on

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<v Speaker 4>this five, ten, fifteen, twenty years from now. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>I still hear about the games from the eighties in

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<v Speaker 4>Cleveland with the Browns, right, nothing like this. It was

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<v Speaker 4>nothing like this.

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<v Speaker 3>This is gonna be we Well, those are pretty great.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are pretty great times.

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<v Speaker 4>Too, and a mid tragedy.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Yes, Rams fans are hopeful that they don't go

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<v Speaker 3>in such a dry spell that those kind of games

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<v Speaker 3>stand out as much. But yeah, this one won't be forgotten.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm glad you mentioned the energy. That's really a

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<v Speaker 3>smart way to think about it. Because the Vikings are

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<v Speaker 3>coming off a disappointing loss. They had to play last

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<v Speaker 3>week Sunday Night football. Rams got to rest their starters,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Rams came out and just yanked this thing

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<v Speaker 3>from them right away. First drive of the game, Vikings blitzed.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess guess what their blitz percentage was on the first

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<v Speaker 3>drive of the game.

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<v Speaker 4>It was one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>It was one hundred percent every single play. Hey, And

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<v Speaker 3>you know how many times they pressured Matthew Stafford one

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<v Speaker 3>one time and I just thought Stafford and McVeigh the combination.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like they knew what was coming, and he got

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<v Speaker 3>rid of the ball so quickly. Puko with a huge

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<v Speaker 3>gainer on the first play. Basically every play was successful.

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<v Speaker 3>Tyler Higbee had a bunch of them and it was easy.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you think about the first defensive drive, first

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<v Speaker 3>play on defense Byron Young, tackle for loss, next play

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<v Speaker 3>Byron Young sack I believe him and Kobe Turner. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the third down play actually stands out to me

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<v Speaker 3>where Donald just dumps it off to pick up like

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<v Speaker 3>seven or eight yards on a third and fifteen and

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<v Speaker 3>literally five guys tackled the ball carrier at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're like, oh man, this team is swarming and

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<v Speaker 3>the second half. The offense didn't need to do much,

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<v Speaker 3>and they didn't do much, but it didn't matter because

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<v Speaker 3>the defense kept it going the whole time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was a phenomenal defensive game plan from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there was a comparison between Manon's own coverage

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<v Speaker 4>and Darnaldon struggled significantly against man coverage. He didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>where to go. The picture was complicated to him. He

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<v Speaker 4>was hesitant, and they feasted on it. And what really

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<v Speaker 4>stood out to me in the way that they got

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<v Speaker 4>after him was the number of different guys that got involved.

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<v Speaker 4>Eight different rams contributed to either at least a half sack,

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<v Speaker 4>if not more. Over the course of this game, a

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<v Speaker 4>number of different guys getting pressures, and two of those

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<v Speaker 4>sacks came from defensive backs. The one on the strip

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<v Speaker 4>sack that led to the Jared Verse fumble recovery in

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<v Speaker 4>return for a touchdown, that was a Kello Witherspoon coming

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<v Speaker 4>off the edge and he just realized, oh wait, Darnold's

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<v Speaker 4>holding onto the ball. I'm here, forget my assignment. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>this tight end leaking out. I'm going after him, and

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<v Speaker 4>he capitalized. They were playing with their hair on Fire.

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<v Speaker 4>They were playing with intent that again exceeded the limitations

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<v Speaker 4>or the expectations of a playoff football game. That's just

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<v Speaker 4>what was so impressive about this game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's listen to that first touchdown to Kyron Williams

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<v Speaker 3>from Stafford from a.

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<v Speaker 1>Loaded set with the coup of the only receiver they'll

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<v Speaker 1>play fait boot out to the left side, Matthew flicked

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<v Speaker 1>his hip. Fire's middle play.

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<v Speaker 5>Tail back Carmen.

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<v Speaker 2>Williams, touchdown Laane seven plays, seventy yards. The Rams strike

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<v Speaker 2>first on this wild card Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was such a great play call because the

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<v Speaker 3>initial read as he's rolling out is taken away. But

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<v Speaker 3>they have Kyra and Williams, who's become a great player

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<v Speaker 3>in the passing game open and Stafford still looking yanky.

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<v Speaker 3>He can still flip those hips and he was sharp

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<v Speaker 3>as hell in the first half. He was fine in

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<v Speaker 3>the second. They just they played pretty conservative. But he

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<v Speaker 3>ends up nineteen for twenty seven two hundred and what

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<v Speaker 3>did he end up with nine yards and a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of touchdowns? You know, passer rating over one eleven. What

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<v Speaker 3>did you think in general? I guess of Stafford and

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<v Speaker 3>the offensive performance one section and you could talk about this.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, that stood out was the last two minute

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<v Speaker 3>drive after they got the ball late in the first step.

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<v Speaker 3>We can say that it ended at seventeen three, and

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<v Speaker 3>yet it really felt over after that drive.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Stafford came into this game with only one passing

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<v Speaker 4>touchdown since week fifteen. That was after a run where

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<v Speaker 4>he posted a ten to zero touchdown interception ratio over

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<v Speaker 4>the previously Believe it was the last three or four

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<v Speaker 4>games people were worried about him. He was averaging one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty three passing yards per game over those

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<v Speaker 4>last three games. Coming into Monday night, he looked like

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<v Speaker 4>the guy we expected to see two years ago, not

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<v Speaker 4>the guy that we expect to see after the last

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<v Speaker 4>three weeks. He was sharp, he was dialed. He was

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<v Speaker 4>completely in sync with Sean mcvay's game plan. They executed

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<v Speaker 4>that nearly flawlessly, that opening drive. But you're right, that

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<v Speaker 4>last two minute drive was the one that really stood

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<v Speaker 4>out to me too, because of how he played with

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<v Speaker 4>so much conviction. Even the touchdown pass that he throws,

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<v Speaker 4>he drops back, plants his foot boom bullet to his

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<v Speaker 4>tight end, tight end runs it in for a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 4>Made it look easy because this is a guy who's

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<v Speaker 4>been there before and he still trusts his physical tools

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<v Speaker 4>and when the play design is working for him and

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<v Speaker 4>he understands where to go, Like even on that Kiraen

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<v Speaker 4>Williams throw the flow is to the left, and yet

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<v Speaker 4>he finds a way to throw it back toward the

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<v Speaker 4>inside where Hiren finds the soft spot in the zone

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<v Speaker 4>to score the touchdown. They were just completely in sync

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<v Speaker 4>throughout that entire first half, and I thought that reminded

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<v Speaker 4>me that, Hey, a lot of people are ready to

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<v Speaker 4>close the curtain on the Matt stafford era in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 4>Not so fast. Okay, it's still ball, and he played

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<v Speaker 4>really well in this first half.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it would be really hard to replace him,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll see because he has these highs and sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>the game does come down to the quarterbacks. And the

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<v Speaker 3>difference tonight was so stark, and I think the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the first half sequence really spells that out. Koc

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<v Speaker 3>decides to go for it on fourth and two at

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<v Speaker 3>the fifty with a couple minutes left to go. Actually

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<v Speaker 3>it was one thirty two left to go in the

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<v Speaker 3>first half. Now earlier in the first half, he decided

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<v Speaker 3>to take a field goal on a fourth and two

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<v Speaker 3>inside the red zone. I didn't hate that decision at

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<v Speaker 3>the time, because it just didn't feel like that Vikings

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<v Speaker 3>were executing well enough to have confidence that they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to make the fourth and two, that Donald would take

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<v Speaker 3>a sack or something. But he decides to roll the

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<v Speaker 3>dice a little bit at the fifty, kind of call

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<v Speaker 3>his shot right there where if we don't pick this up,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna go down three scores. But let's show some

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<v Speaker 3>confidence in Donald. And what does he do. He holds

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<v Speaker 3>onto the ball for like six seconds and he takes

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<v Speaker 3>an eleven yard sack and then Stafford gets the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>It takes a few plays to get going, but he

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<v Speaker 3>hits Pooka on a play that probably ended with what

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<v Speaker 3>about thirty five seconds to go, And I'm thinking they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to take a time out there, and they don't,

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<v Speaker 3>and they decide not to. And it was really a

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<v Speaker 3>veteran move. First of all, they had enough time to

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<v Speaker 3>run a handful of plays left. But more than anything,

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<v Speaker 3>with the way Flores runs defense, they're a good hurry

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<v Speaker 3>up offense and they can mix in tempo really well,

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<v Speaker 3>and they did that tonight. Especially earlier in the game,

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<v Speaker 3>and they hurry up up on the ball and they

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<v Speaker 3>snap it quick like before ESPN gets out of their replay, basically,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's got a wide open Davis Allen that their

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<v Speaker 3>rookie tight or second year tight end over the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to Jordan Rodrieg cashing inner Davis Allen stock

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<v Speaker 3>at the last moment. Good job by her, he gets

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<v Speaker 3>the touchdo it. And that's veteran game management versus Sam Darnold,

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<v Speaker 3>who who had no game management tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I actually thought that signs of this being

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<v Speaker 4>a potential outcome showed up in that Lions game. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think that Lions game was an anomaly, and just

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<v Speaker 4>like a one off, you could kind of find clues

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<v Speaker 4>that this could be an issue for them. My biggest

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<v Speaker 4>issue with them in that game was the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>when they had a down and distant situation where you

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<v Speaker 4>needed to get five to eight yards, you treat a

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<v Speaker 4>third and relatively long with two plays because you know

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to go for it on fourth down. They're

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<v Speaker 4>not running anything short for him, and that has been

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<v Speaker 4>my big issue with their offense for a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>this season. Is now Sam has stepped up in a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of these moments and ripped a pass down the scene,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, through three defenders for a big first down

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<v Speaker 4>in some of these games they've won. Last week, I

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<v Speaker 4>saw him not able to do that because they're playing

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<v Speaker 4>better defenses, because the pressure is on. And the same

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<v Speaker 4>thing was true again in that scenario which leads to them.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fourth and June. You take such a long sack,

0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.319
<v Speaker 4>you give the Rams great field position and they capitalize.

0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.760
<v Speaker 4>And that was a big concerning sign for me with

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<v Speaker 4>them in this going into this game, and unfortunately for

0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.360
<v Speaker 4>the Vikings, it proved to carry over and be true again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you hit the nail on the head. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's more that Darnold doesn't take the options or make

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<v Speaker 3>the quick deal. Yeah, that could be very true too

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<v Speaker 3>to get to the check down. But I think you're

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely right that they don't build in enough for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan Rodrigu, who I just mentioned, is that the game

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<v Speaker 3>and said the exact same thing that they need to

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<v Speaker 3>build in more short stuff for Sam and it's not there.

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<v Speaker 3>But the sacks that he took, and he took nine

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<v Speaker 3>of them, took me a long time to get to

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<v Speaker 3>this added up to the most sackyards in a game

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<v Speaker 3>eighty two in the history of the NFL playoffs. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the most sack yardage in any game in the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL for a decade. Cam Newton took more sack yardage

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<v Speaker 3>in a game in a November game a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 3>But the most sackyards ever here are the sack yards

0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.320
<v Speaker 3>because like a lot of times, you take like a

0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:22.080
<v Speaker 3>three four yard sack, you get up ten seven, twelve, eight, seven, eleven, thirteen,

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<v Speaker 3>eight nine to close out the game there, and those

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<v Speaker 3>are massive sacks. One of those double digit sack numbers

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<v Speaker 3>came in the second half when they had a third

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<v Speaker 3>and eight in field goal range in theory, but really

0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.040
<v Speaker 3>they needed to just get touchdowns. They were down I

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<v Speaker 3>think three scores at the time went nineteen points or something,

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<v Speaker 3>and he took I think that thirteen yard sack, and

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<v Speaker 3>they decided to punt on fourth and twenty one, which

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<v Speaker 3>to me was a surrender punt. I know, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to punt there, but the game is over if

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<v Speaker 3>you punt it. So the fourth quarter was very strange

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<v Speaker 3>to me. But I think koc was so exasperated by

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<v Speaker 3>Donald taking the sack there after he held it for

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<v Speaker 3>like six seconds. The Rams only had five quick pressures

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<v Speaker 3>all night. None of their defenders had more than one

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<v Speaker 3>quick pressure. So more of these sacks than not were

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<v Speaker 3>on the delayed blitzes, which they did a great job doing.

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<v Speaker 3>That confused them and Donald just holding onto the ball

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<v Speaker 3>and freezing a little bit. Let's listen to Kevin O'Connell

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<v Speaker 3>talking about Donald after the game.

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<v Speaker 6>The other phase of it for Sam is acknowledging the

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<v Speaker 6>things that made him a winning quarterback this year and

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<v Speaker 6>the consistency at the times he had it throughout the

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<v Speaker 6>year and what that meant for our team. Because I

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<v Speaker 6>think that can stay with him moving forward, is as

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<v Speaker 6>he goes back to work, proud of him, proud of

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<v Speaker 6>you know, really everybody in that locker room, but Sam

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<v Speaker 6>and the journey him and I went on this year

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<v Speaker 6>will always, you know, be a you know something that's

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<v Speaker 6>a special place in my heart. For sure.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good way to say spin it, but that's

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<v Speaker 4>a wistful tone at the end of what's a disappointing

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<v Speaker 4>finish in a season that had so much promise, and

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<v Speaker 4>you talk about that third and eight. I just went

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<v Speaker 4>and looked at the tape real quick because I thought

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<v Speaker 4>about this in real time when it happened. He's so

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<v Speaker 4>locked on a Jalen Naylor to going across the field

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<v Speaker 4>looking for the deep play. Again, he's got CJ. Ham

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<v Speaker 4>open about six yards away from the line to gain

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<v Speaker 4>with a little bit of room to run when he

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<v Speaker 4>breaks the pocket, like, just dump it off once it's

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<v Speaker 4>right there for you take the gain, you can get

0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.880
<v Speaker 4>a fourth and short. But again, that typified the entire

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<v Speaker 4>night for him hunting the big play. Hesitant pays the price.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they had three point three I think adjusted yards

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<v Speaker 3>for dropback, which is one of the lowest totals in

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<v Speaker 3>any playoff game for years. I actually did a stat

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<v Speaker 3>This is going to be a next Greg's stats. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if this is official.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you count as ngs? That's still okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So he officially went nine for seventeen I believe, for

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<v Speaker 3>eighty four yards when under pressure when he did throw

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<v Speaker 3>the ball. So that's an average about a little under

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<v Speaker 3>five yards per throw, which is which is not good.

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<v Speaker 3>We had an interception in there, a couple close ones,

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<v Speaker 3>but then he took those nine sacks for all the

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<v Speaker 3>passing yard you know, all the negative yards. So eighty

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<v Speaker 3>four minus eighty two. That's that's a total of two yards.

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<v Speaker 3>Divide that by the total plays there, his passes in

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<v Speaker 3>his sacks, that's twenty six plays. They averaged point oh

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<v Speaker 3>seven yards per play when Sam Donald was pressured. That's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good. That's a pretty good debut of next Greg's stats.

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<v Speaker 3>Point oh seven yards per play when Sam Donald was pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not bringing him back. He's talking wistfully because Sam

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<v Speaker 3>Donald's done in that town.

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<v Speaker 4>He goes, he's definitely gone. Hey, my middle name, by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, is Gregory. So we're gonna stick with the

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<v Speaker 4>next Greg starts.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, you never knew that? How did I not know that?

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<v Speaker 3>Now you learn something new.

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<v Speaker 4>Ngs are my initials, so we'll just stick with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Now I'm not Gregory. That's what the the third

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<v Speaker 3>G sixty percent G that closes that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just stops at greg just like my name stops it.

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<v Speaker 3>It just stops it right there. And I'm I'm joking around,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I've been a darnold doubter until I

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I had to be convinced that just by

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<v Speaker 3>his excellent play, and he did play excellent for most

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<v Speaker 3>of this season, But I do think the way these

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<v Speaker 3>two games played out in the biggest of spots for

0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.800
<v Speaker 3>him to completely revert back and have two of the

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<v Speaker 3>worst games by any quarterback all season, you know it,

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<v Speaker 3>at least by like a competent quarterback. These were two

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<v Speaker 3>of the worst games and certainly in the biggest of

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<v Speaker 3>spots for them to be this bad in this spot,

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<v Speaker 3>They're not going to give him the franchise tag. I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>I just assume they would if he maintains his level

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<v Speaker 3>of play, and I think if he had even normal

0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:02.080
<v Speaker 3>bad games, they still would thought about it. But I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think they're gonna do it now. I actually do

0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:08.800
<v Speaker 3>think there's a chance he returns to Minnesota, if only

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<v Speaker 3>because a two year, let's say, thirty million dollar contract

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<v Speaker 3>from Minnesota to be a one B basically a backup

0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:23.320
<v Speaker 3>plus until JJ is healthy, might be the best offer

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<v Speaker 3>he gets. I just don't know. Maybe he will get

0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:27.760
<v Speaker 3>a better offer elsewhere, and maybe he's comfortable with that.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to have a really difficult decision. But he

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<v Speaker 3>cost himself a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously. These last two games were damning evidence in the

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<v Speaker 4>case against paying him, you know, paying him relatively significantly.

0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.800
<v Speaker 4>He's not getting a Daniel Jones contract, and even that contract,

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<v Speaker 4>as we know now, was bad. All right, So this

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<v Speaker 4>is a guy in Sam Darnold who notoriously held over

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<v Speaker 4>the ball a long time to significant success this season. Right, So,

0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.879
<v Speaker 4>he averaged three point zero eight seconds per drop back

0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.800
<v Speaker 4>this season. It was the third longest time to throw

0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.960
<v Speaker 4>on average in the NFL, behind Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts,

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<v Speaker 4>two very different quarterbacks from him. Right. Yeah, you guess

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<v Speaker 4>off the top of your head what his average time

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<v Speaker 4>to throw was tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>It had to be. Well does that count sacks? I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know, or is it before you fifty draw gus,

0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:17.440
<v Speaker 3>I'll just guess four, just to give a big fan three.

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<v Speaker 4>Point two to one, which is still significantly higher than

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<v Speaker 4>three point oh eight. That would have been the longest

0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:23.120
<v Speaker 4>I believe in the league.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But here's the thing. If you counted the sack numbers,

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<v Speaker 3>which you don't, because it's average time to throw, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>wake up, Greg, It's literally in the title of.

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<v Speaker 4>That stat so new of course that doesn't count.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know how I ended up. But our

0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:40.639
<v Speaker 3>friend Bill Smith at our research department pointed out with

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<v Speaker 3>the six first half sacks, which broke a record in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of first half playoff sacks, no surprise, none were

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<v Speaker 3>under three point two seconds none, and four of the

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<v Speaker 3>six were over four seconds. And I can think in

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<v Speaker 3>my head at least of two of the sacks in

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<v Speaker 3>the second half that were over four seconds too, so

0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.760
<v Speaker 3>that that's just holding it forever. And you could hear

0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:08.359
<v Speaker 3>the frustration dripping in Troy Aikman's voice that these really

0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:10.920
<v Speaker 3>were more on the quarterback. Yes, they lost Brian O'Neil

0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 3>about halfway through this game, but there was one play

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<v Speaker 3>where he took the sack and Troy Aikman was like,

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<v Speaker 3>he's got a clean pocket in front of him, just

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<v Speaker 3>step up, and that's it. It's it's the not being

0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.840
<v Speaker 3>aware of pressure, and it's maybe the reason why I

0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:30.359
<v Speaker 3>have always been so down on Donald, maybe even more

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<v Speaker 3>than the numbers would say, because that's my number one

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<v Speaker 3>trait is your feel versus pressure. And it's probably why

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<v Speaker 3>I've overrated a couple of quarterbacks over the years because

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<v Speaker 3>to me, I think that just that's what I want

0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.639
<v Speaker 3>in a quarterback and he doesn't have that, and we

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<v Speaker 3>don't need to spend the whole podcast on Sam Donald.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about him in the offseason, but you do

0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 3>feel for him. He made it to QB Island, but

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Man, we might have to call an

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<v Speaker 3>emergency meeting or something here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think he's getting voted off if that's the

0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:03.880
<v Speaker 4>complicated process allows for that to happen. I actually caught

0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:06.480
<v Speaker 4>a brief glimpse of the Manning cast during this game,

0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:09.240
<v Speaker 4>because I'm like, what did Eli and Peyton think about

0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:13.520
<v Speaker 4>Dartnold's performance so far? They were just groaning. He threw

0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:15.560
<v Speaker 4>a ball too. I think it was Addison who came

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<v Speaker 4>back to the ball and made a catch between two defenders,

0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:20.080
<v Speaker 4>and Eli was just like, wait till they show the receiver.

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<v Speaker 4>When he gets rid of the ball, he's not open

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<v Speaker 4>at all, and somehow he makes the play. Like they

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<v Speaker 4>were just absolutely dismade at the performance, understandably so rough

0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:30.680
<v Speaker 4>rough ending to what was a nice year for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the thing too. The last couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 3>he let his mental issues get in the way of

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<v Speaker 3>the throws that he made, even when there wasn't any pressure,

0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:49.119
<v Speaker 3>Like he dirted a couple screen passes. ESPN actually tracks

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<v Speaker 3>a stat espan stats and info of off target passes

0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:57.439
<v Speaker 3>and his Lions game, he set his season high and

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<v Speaker 3>it was one of the highest by like any quarterback

0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 3>all season, and this game was the second highest. So

0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:05.960
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't just that he was, you know, taking these sacks.

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:09.560
<v Speaker 3>He was missing some throws that were there. Man, Okay,

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 3>enough about Donald that's a downer. There's a lot of

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 3>fun in this game. One of the fun things was

0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 3>actually Paul Allen's call of one of the biggest plays

0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.000
<v Speaker 3>in this game. It was early, it was ten to

0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:24.760
<v Speaker 3>three Rams, and for a second it looked like it

0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:27.960
<v Speaker 3>was ten to ten because there was a sack fumble

0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 3>touchdown for the Vikings. We're actually going to take a

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<v Speaker 3>quick break. But on the other side of the break,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll start with that call by Paul Allen, who who

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<v Speaker 3>did obviously did not love how it all finished up.

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<v Speaker 1>First and ten from Matthews Stafford, the former Georgia pulldolf

0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:56.160
<v Speaker 1>to pass.

0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 2>He dropped, picked up.

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Cash cash, buddy, that's the playoffs. That's a twenty three

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:10.200
<v Speaker 3>yard tupid before how the.

0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Brams offense is staying on the field.

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they're gonna rule this.

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 2>An incomplete or ain't no, incomplete.

0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:21.200
<v Speaker 3>No, No, that's a bumble. They're rolling on the field.

0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:24.920
<v Speaker 4>Is a humble recovered by the defense cuts down?

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there we go. That was a complete breakdown on

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:33.639
<v Speaker 3>their offense. So number seventeen was in the area.

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 4>Therefore it is a complete pass. How's not to pass?

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 3>He didn't even hit.

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 4>His least off the game off the fourteen fourteen players.

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Wow, wow, oh man. For the last time this season,

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Paul Allen and Pete burstas on k FA and that

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 3>was a huge play. I guess a heads up play

0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 3>by Matthew Stafford, even though his head was down. I

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 3>mean from the from the original angle, you thought, no

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 3>way was that a pass. But then when you saw

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.920
<v Speaker 3>the replay, I actually think it was the right call,

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 3>but just not a smart move by Stafford. It shouldn't

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 3>have been an intentional grounding, so it wasn't the right call.

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 3>They should have called intentional grounding, but it was not

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 3>a fumble.

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. When I saw the replay from the front side,

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:22.760
<v Speaker 4>I was like, yeah, that's you shouldn't look go the

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 4>ball there. It wasn't until his arm extended from behind

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:26.199
<v Speaker 4>that you saw that he was trying to get rid

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 4>of the football. But now it saves them the sack yardage, right,

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:34.199
<v Speaker 4>but ultimately take the sack, no reason to do that.

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.400
<v Speaker 4>But luckily for the Rams they lucked out and got

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 4>the call in their favor. Yes, uh oh, clip by

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:41.640
<v Speaker 4>the way, can we clip the.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me?

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 4>Because that was just great?

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 3>That that was amazing. That's the funny thing is if

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 3>you look at the like the box score of this game,

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 3>because the Rams didn't do much in the second half,

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:55.879
<v Speaker 3>like they only hit two third downs all game. For instance,

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 3>the Vikings were much better on third down success rate.

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 3>For the two teams running, we're both mediocre. They were

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 3>like slightly below average. It wasn't like a great running

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 3>game for the Rams. Kukuanakua gets forty four yards on

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 3>nine targets five catches. Cooper Cup has one catch. Tyler

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:18.399
<v Speaker 3>Higbye unfortunately left this game with a chest injury and

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 3>had to go to the hospital and they say he's

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 3>in stable condition, which is worrisome. So I don't know

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 3>if that was a breathing problem for him, but Sean

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 3>McVay did say that they it looks like he's going

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.639
<v Speaker 3>to be okay, which is really good news. So it

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 3>is one of those games you kind of have to

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 3>watch because even Darnold's stat line, if you don't see

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 3>the stacks to really understand the story, and maybe that

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 3>does speak to the point that there was something a

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:46.719
<v Speaker 3>little more going on. It's one of the reasons why

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.959
<v Speaker 3>we love football right shook, not just because you can

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 3>get inspired, It just that if you watch that game,

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 3>you understood it in a way that you can't from

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 3>looking at the numbers. And a lot of it was

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 3>from the energy of the game and shout out to

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.920
<v Speaker 3>those fans that showed up there for both teams. Everyone

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.399
<v Speaker 3>there from ESPN said it was an incredible atmosphere. It

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 3>was like a college atmosphere. You have the fans behind

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 3>the team they support, like a college game, and they

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:17.159
<v Speaker 3>were really loud, and I'm sure they weren't showing a nationally,

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 3>but the local news was all over this story and

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 3>they had like, I don't know how many buses it was,

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 3>but it was a ton of buses. They showed the

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 3>lines of people that were there at sofar taking the buses,

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 3>all in rams gear that the staffords and the rams

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 3>paid for. And they left before dawn, like it was

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:36.439
<v Speaker 3>dark out at that point, and so they showed up

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 3>in big ways. And the Vikings, who travel so well

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:40.920
<v Speaker 3>and had such a great season, you feel for them.

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 3>They showed up big time two for what was ultimately

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 3>a funeral, but a cool like a memorable atmosphere, making

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 3>the best of a bad situation.

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:50.360
<v Speaker 5>There.

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a lot of details that will not show up

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 4>in the Pro Football Reference box score that we googled

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 4>into fifteen years from now, like people like me like

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 4>to do, but those who watched it will remember who

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:03.439
<v Speaker 4>access the replay, which you can find on NFL Plus look.

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:04.199
<v Speaker 3>At too and.

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<v Speaker 4>Revel in the uniqueness of this game, which win in

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:13.959
<v Speaker 4>the technically the home team's favor as they advanced to Philadelphia.

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and good job by look the Rams back seven.

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 3>Anytime you hold an opponent in single digits, which I

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 3>believe they've now done, is that for a month straight?

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Like when was last time the Rams defense gave up

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 3>a big point total? They're starters. The forty nine ers

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 3>they beat twelve to six, the Bills game, the Jets

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 3>they beat nineteen to nine, the Cardinals they beat thirteen

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 3>to nine, and then this game they win twenty seven

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 3>to nine. That's incredible. I know the backups you know,

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 3>gave up thirty to the Seahawks, but I'm not counting

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 3>that game. So it was the Bills game, and that's

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 3>amazing Chris Shula getting it done with those delayed pressures.

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:58.959
<v Speaker 3>The secondary with guys you haven't heard about. Kobe Durant

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 3>had a sack, kill a Weatherspoon has played well. There's

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 3>been injuries, and yes that that four man front versus

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 3>special once O'Neil went out, especially versus just he had

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 3>a good time with their backup and so it was

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 3>a real team victory for the Rams. Let's actually listen

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 3>after the game to Kobe Turner. Uh, this is two

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 3>people and you won't hear Bridget here, but two people

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 3>that have been a big part of NFL Daily. Bridget Condon,

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 3>a regular guest interviewing Kobe Turner, who got the NFL

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Daily bump as a guest back in training camp.

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<v Speaker 5>We had the city on our back this week and

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 5>I'm glad we were able to go out and pick

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 5>up a dub. You know, McBath has been talking to

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 5>us all week about the fact that we're built for this.

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 5>Everything that we've gone through from the season up till

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 5>now has prepared us for this exact moment prepared us

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 5>to go take victory like we just stand. And so

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 5>the next journey is on the way. You know, we

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 5>head up to Pillion. We're excited for that too as well.

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:54.719
<v Speaker 5>But we're built for this man. All the trials, all

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 5>the tribulations, all the ups and downs. We've weathered the storm.

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 5>You figure out the true testament of team how they

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 5>react in a storm. And we started in a storm

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 5>and now we're up here. So I'm just excited to

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 5>keep going with these.

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 3>Guys right spitting bars. We started in the storm. Eric

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 3>Roberts behind the glass, doing a great job all week

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 3>all season, tells me there was thirty buses. I was

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 3>gonna say it seemed like they were lined up so

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 3>that that was a big crew that that took took

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 3>the ride, and that's a six hour bus ride, and

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 3>I think they got They must have got there very

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 3>early because they were I don't know why they were

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 3>get there that early, but I guess you got to

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 3>make sure.

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 4>Somebody who has moved to LA, back to Ohio, to

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 4>LA and back to Ohio and done the drive across

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 4>the country four times. Usually when you get to Arizona,

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 4>you're like, all right, now, here's the home stretch, but

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 4>it's still pretty long. You stuck out near Barstow at night,

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 4>You're like, where am I? They rode those buses as

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 4>the sun was rising to come watch this team play

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 4>for them.

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's badass. And Sean McVay gonna be proud after

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 3>the game. This is, like I mentioned, first win since

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 3>the Super Bowl, which I think he's gonna feel really good.

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.959
<v Speaker 3>They obviously made the playoffs last year and lost a

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 3>really close game to a good team. The Lion's nothing

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 3>to be ashamed of there, but big to get a

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 3>playoff win in four of his eight seasons Shook. He

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 3>has won a playoff game. In six of his eight

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 3>seasons they've made the playoffs. He very evenly distributes everything.

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 3>In two of those seasons he went to the super Bowl.

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 3>In one of those seasons he won the super Bowl.

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 3>It's like he's almost mathematically doing what you would expect

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 3>every time he makes the playoffs. Like he's done every

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 3>little bit of it. And a lot of love for

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 3>KOC and Dan Campbell and all these coaches and McVeagh

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 3>didn't get a lot of love for Coach of the

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Year this year. But there aren't many guys you would

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 3>rather want, I think running your organization.

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 4>Which of us had him on the top five of

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 4>the latter was good?

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 5>Ye?

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 4>Me?

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 3>Good job? Was it me? I'm glad neither of us.

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 3>Did you have Kevin O'Connell first after week We did

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 3>after week seventeen, so you were stuck in maybe, Yeah,

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 3>it was.

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 4>It was a weird spot at the time. Look, this

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 4>RAMS team started one to four. They're now ten and

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 4>three in the last third. All those games have come

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 4>after their buye. That's a hell of the job by showing.

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 3>And one of them they didn't try to win, so yeah,

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 3>and they almost did win with Jimmy Garoppolo, So.

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there is.

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 3>And you know what, I had this theory that they

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 3>wanted this matchup, they wanted the Vikings. It was just

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 3>the theory I had because they were trying to lose

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 3>that game when they could have tried to play against

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 3>the Commanders and it's a familiar opponent. They got it done.

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 3>A lot, you know, to worry about for the to

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 3>think about for the Vikings. I'm going to talk about

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 3>the Vikings a little more on our next show. Ali

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 3>Connelly's going to join me, and we're going to kind

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 3>of spin around a lot of the coaching situations, the

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 3>GM situations, just the other teams that aren't in the playoffs.

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 3>And I do want to talk about the Vikings because

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I think there's some interesting things going on with their

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 3>front office and Darnold and kind of what's going to

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 3>happen next for them. Obviously, koc has nothing to worry about,

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:51.719
<v Speaker 3>one of the best coaches in the league, even if

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 3>at disappointing ending. They are the first team, by the way,

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 3>since the champion Patriots, I think, in fourteen to only

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 3>lose to two teams in a season. They only lost

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 3>to the Rams in the Lions this season. They went

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 3>oh to four against the Lions in the Rams this season.

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 3>They're also the first team that won fourteen games in

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 3>a season to end with back to back losses, and

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 3>those back to back losses were by a combined forty points.

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 3>They weren't close. It's just a weird, a weird way

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 3>to end. But I don't think it eliminates everything, but

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 3>it maybe simplifies how they view their team that maybe

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 3>they still are a little further away than the record showed.

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I feel like they overachieved this year considering where

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 4>we thought they were when we analyzed their roster going

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 4>into the season. We also didn't think Tam Donald was

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 4>going to have this type of season. Nobody did. We

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 4>thought J. J. McCarthy was going to be the quarterback

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 4>of this team, and he wasn't. But I am curious.

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if Minnesota's is as tough on their

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.959
<v Speaker 4>coaches as some other markets. Looking at you, Pittsburgh with

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 4>Kevin O'Connell, because he's now zero to two in playoff games,

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 4>in which come.

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<v Speaker 3>On, they will because there's a crazy, you know, segment

0:33:58.000 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 3>of the fan base that gets mad at the coach

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 3>after every playoff loss. But give me a break. I mean,

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 3>I agree, I'm curious with what he got out of

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:13.839
<v Speaker 3>this team. All right, let's switch gears before we go

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.280
<v Speaker 3>for the night. We often do a big news rundown.

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 3>We're not going to do that today. But we did

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 3>get one big item that I do want to talk

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 3>about that I don't want to save for our next show,

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 3>and that's Mike McCarthy no longer being the coach of

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:33.800
<v Speaker 3>the Dallas Cowboys. How would you word it, Nick Shook,

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Because one thing you can't say about Jerry Jones is

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 3>that he fires his coaches. He doesn't do that. He

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:43.399
<v Speaker 3>just lets their contract run out and then lets them

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 3>twist in the wind. So, if you're writing the article,

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 3>how do you even phrase this? Conscious uncoupling?

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:52.879
<v Speaker 4>Conscious uncoupling is a great way to do it.

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Sorry I stole your answer.

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 4>It's better than mine. I would just say parted ways

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 4>like the Patriots did with Bill Belichick, coming on from

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 4>a coach by letting his contract expire. It's common in

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 4>other industries, not so much in the coaching industry. It

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 4>is gets questionable though, that they would deny the Bears

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 4>a chance to interview him if they wanted to part

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 4>with him. But then again, the Cowboys do things a

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 4>little bit differently. And now all the intrigue builds because

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 4>they are the Cowboys. Who are they going to hire.

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 4>We've already heard some names floated out there, including one

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 4>guy who once played for them. It's going to be

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 4>very fascinating to see how they proceed after deciding, you

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 4>know what, wasn't as good as we wanted it to be,

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 4>and we're just gonna let that contract expire and go

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 4>for greener pastors. We'll see if they find one.

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know you're referring to Dion Sanders. Ian Rappaport

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 3>did indicate among other insiders across the country that Dion

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Sanders is a possibility that they probably will talk. Someone

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 3>dug up an old Michael Irvin tweet from November where

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 3>he said he hung out with Dion I believe on

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.919
<v Speaker 3>Saturday night after hanging out with Jerry Jones on Friday night,

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 3>and that he's praying for something that we can guess what,

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 3>and that he's praying essentially for those two men to

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 3>come together, and basically said he is trying to make

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 3>that happen. So if Michael Irvin is brokering like head

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 3>coaching hirings in the year twenty twenty five, that would

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 3>be amazing. And I don't doubt that Jerry Jones would

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 3>milk this story to get as much attention as possible.

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 3>And I don't doubt he would do it because it

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 3>would be so box office. But I don't know if

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.840
<v Speaker 3>he would want to really hand over the keys to

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 3>someone who has more juice than he does, and he

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 3>seems a little indecisive. I watched a really good segment

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 3>with Ian and Tom Pelsaro and Jane Slater, and there

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 3>was a lot in there that I'd like to get to.

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 3>But of one of the things that Jane said was

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 3>people around Jerry Jones said he really was kind of

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 3>indecisive over the last week. And that seems obvious because

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 3>if you read the statement that Jerry Jones made, he

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 3>said that he spoke with Mike over a number of

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 3>days and spent considerable time discussing the road, for they

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 3>were thorough and received an appropriate amount of time prior

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 3>to reaching the point of contract negotiations. It became mutually

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 3>clear it would be better to each of us and

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 3>head it in a different direction. So they spoke for

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 3>multiple days. It appeared there was mutual interest in potentially

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:34.280
<v Speaker 3>continuing the partnership, and then according to our insiders, maybe

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:37.359
<v Speaker 3>they never really negotiated. But before they even got to

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 3>that point, the agent was involved and it was clear

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 3>that Jerry Jones was not going to give him a

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 3>long contract and that Mike McCarthy only wanted to do

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 3>it if it was a long contract, that it was

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.479
<v Speaker 3>going to probably be like one or two years or

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, that would have been the negotiation, and that

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 3>that was a non starter for McCarthy, and on some level,

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 3>it was almost McCarthy walking away from being like, no,

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:07.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm not putting up with your bs. That's it. Just

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 3>like mismanagement. This is all it's all bad. If you're

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 3>a Cowboys fan, you gotta be so sick of it.

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 4>It's been a rough twelve months of mismanagement for the Cowboys,

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 4>started with that offseason in which they said they were

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 4>all in and then did very little of anything. They

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 4>placed high expectations on a team that lacked weapons offensively,

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.760
<v Speaker 4>and I thought it was very telling Mike McCarthy's tone

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 4>after their Week eighteen loss to the Commanders in the

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 4>final seconds of that game that when asked about his

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:33.439
<v Speaker 4>job status and his security and the way he felt

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:36.319
<v Speaker 4>about it, he just like stood his ground and was like,

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:39.759
<v Speaker 4>I'm a winner. I've won, I won a championship in

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 4>this building. It's almost as if he took that same

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 4>approach into those talks and then got the response that

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 4>you just described and said, to hell with this, I'm

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.359
<v Speaker 4>gonna go find something better for me or not coach

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:52.359
<v Speaker 4>at all, because I'm not dealing with this anymore, just like.

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 3>You said, which is crazy because you know it sounds

0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:01.320
<v Speaker 3>like he wants to coach, but that this has worn

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 3>on him. And this is what I got out of

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 3>that conversation, so I'm paraphrasing our insiders it's not my information,

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 3>but that he was getting really tired of this situation

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 3>with the Cowboys. It's pretty rare to be on a

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 3>last year year contract as a coach and all the

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 3>things that comes with it and not necessarily having all

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 3>the power to really even run his offense or bring

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 3>in the players that he wants. And that's just how

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 3>it works if you're the Cowboys coach, and that maybe

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 3>he's made enough money so if another coaching job doesn't

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 3>come around this year, or even a head coaching job

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 3>ever again, that it's enough for him and it's tough

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 3>for the coaches under him, but they didn't want to

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 3>be living in that uncertainty either. Just while we're on McCarthy, quickly,

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 3>he was the Saints' offensive coordinator and people forget this

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 3>for at least four years to start this century in

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 3>Mickey Loomis was there with the Saints at the time,

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 3>and all three of those insiders pointed out that they

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 3>have a close relationship and that there really could be

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 3>a connection there, and Loomis could see McCarthy kind of

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.959
<v Speaker 3>as a guy that helps him out if his job

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:17.359
<v Speaker 3>is at all you know, you know, hey, I can

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 3>still get a winning coach like this to come on board.

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 3>And McCarthy might look at it as a situation where

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 3>he'd have a lot of power relatively for a head coach,

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 3>and it's just something to keep an eye on. He

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 3>also is going to interview with the Chicago Bears, so

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 3>he has two interviews. He's a wanted man, Mike McCarthy.

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 4>You got to think about situation and you think about motivation,

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 4>and if he wants to go to a place where

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 4>he is familiar with the person in charge of personnel,

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 4>then it's the Saints and a place where he feels

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 4>like he can have considerable power over roster decisions and

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 4>everything else. It's New Orleans Saints. But he would also

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 4>be walking into a team that doesn't have a long

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 4>term answer quarterback and lacks weapons outside, especially if they

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.280
<v Speaker 4>lose a guy like they did in Chris Olave this season.

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 4>So what would you rather choose? That or a young

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 4>team with a young quarterback and with some weapons at

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 4>receiver of varying ages, but in need of serious direction

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 4>and a GM that you would have to get to

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 4>know in Ryan Poles, there are two very different situations.

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 4>But if he wants to coach again, we'll see. Man,

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you'd rather have a quarterback. You'd rather have

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 4>a quarterback to mold of course it's Kayla Williams. The

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 4>difference with that job is they've interviewed everyone. If they're

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 4>interviewing like iOS state head coach, like he might not

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 4>really have much reason to believe that he would be

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 4>a favorite or one of the favorites. In Chicago, maybe

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 4>he would be, but there's not any particular reason, whereas

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:40.280
<v Speaker 4>in New Orleans he might walk in as the favorite

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 4>to get that job if they could figure it out.

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 3>Who knows. But this cowboy situation means they missed an

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:55.800
<v Speaker 3>opportunity to interview Mike Rabel for instance, or Ben Johnson

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:59.799
<v Speaker 3>or any you know, anyone you know that had the

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 3>so I guess that would have been Spegnola wouldn't wouldn't

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 3>have been that many different people. But like, there are costs,

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 3>and if you end up hiring your coach really late

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 3>in the cycle, you have a harder time filling out

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 3>that staff I think it's one of the reasons why

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Vrabel wanted to get going quickly. I have some thoughts

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 3>on his press conference too, but we'll save those. We'll

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 3>save those for Monday. Yeah, for Tuesdays show that will

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 3>come out actually Wednesday morning with Ali Connolly. We don't

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 3>want this to get too ill. Get tonight of celebration. Nick.

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 3>I guess that's enough about the Cowboys, but just just weird,

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 3>weird times for the Dallas Cowboys. What a night, What

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 3>a weird week. It's been a tough week. My kids

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 3>are going back to school though tomorrow. How about that.

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 4>That's awesome, a return to normalcy and a great podcast.

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 4>Look forward to tomorrow for those of you who has

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 4>in the NFL daily, because no thoughts on the Patriots

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 4>are as valuable as Greg Rosenthal when he comes away

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 4>from a Mike Rabel introductory presser, I.

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Promise, no, no, no, it was fine. It seemed a

0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:58.720
<v Speaker 3>little tired, but it's fine.

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:01.319
<v Speaker 4>You've seen some things we have.

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 3>We all have, including Sean McVay putting it to Brian

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Flores early in that first half, and that offensive line

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 3>was beliguered and injured, getting healthy and getting it done.

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 3>It was in a full team effort. Obviously that defense

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:22.760
<v Speaker 3>flying around. And yes, they made my wife and my daughter,

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:27.840
<v Speaker 3>who are rams Vans, very happy tonight. And yes, it's

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:29.960
<v Speaker 3>been a long week. We're keeping an eye out on

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:34.840
<v Speaker 3>this wind event that is starting apparently is going to

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 3>pick up in the morning. That the fires are mostly

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 3>out near us, the smoke cloud is basically gone, but

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 3>everyone's keeping an eye on this wind event for the

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:48.400
<v Speaker 3>next thirty six hours or so. And so we're crossing

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 3>our fingers and hope everything doesn't get worse here and

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 3>we can keep getting better and the Red Cross has

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 3>helped us to do that. And yes, we've been heartbroken

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 3>by this struction from these wildfires across the entire LA region.

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:07.840
<v Speaker 3>So families affected by these fires, they do urgently need support.

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 3>You can help the American Red Cross respond to and

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 3>help people recover from these disasters. Donate today to support

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:19.280
<v Speaker 3>relief efforts by going to Redcross dot org. Slash NFL

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:22.839
<v Speaker 3>Nick this is our last Monday Night of the year.

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad we had this playoff game to go out

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 3>in style. It would have been sad if the last

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Monday Night game of the year that we did was

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Packers thirty four Saint zero.

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 4>Was that the one the last year we did that

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 4>a few weeks ago.

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 3>That was rough? Doesn't that feel like another lifetime ago?

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 3>This week has aged me. I'm really excited them going

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 3>back to school actually is going to feel like a

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 3>real return to some to some sense of normalcy like

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 3>last Tuesday when this all started. Feels like like two

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 3>months ago. And so the wildcard weekend not a lot

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 3>of close games. Hopefully we get better games. Divisional Round

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 3>weekend the best weekend of the year, and you'll be

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:06.320
<v Speaker 3>helping us out Sunday night, right, Nick, better.

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 4>You know it, you know it. I'll be there, lock

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 4>stock and barrel, Baby, We've got a lot of playoff games.

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:14.399
<v Speaker 3>To get to. Okay, that's it for tonight's show. Thanks Eric,

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 3>thank you to Nick. And yeah, when the Rams are

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 3>back in the super Bowl mix, you know football is back.

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:23.240
<v Speaker 3>We'll see you Wednesday morning.