1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier. 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: Welcome into Unbreakable, a mental Wealth podcast with Jay Glazer. 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: I'm Jay Glazer and joining me today is somebody I've 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: known for a long time. I's seen at Madison Square 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: Garden back in the day, back when I was a 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: young pupp I was hosting the show with Kurt Menafie 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: called Unnecessary Roughness, and I used to see this cat 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: and then he made me laugh my ass off back then, 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: and he still is now and I actually now he's 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: the political commentator. He's talking about, you know, issues that 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: people don't want to hit, but he's talking about him 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: in terms we could all understand. My dude, Michael Rappaport, 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: one of the funniest, Hey, I'm gonna say it right here, 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: one of. 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 3: The funniest motherfuckers on the planet. 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: I want to set the stage for you so you'll 18 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: understand what kind of podcast this is. 19 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: You have free reign to be you. I appreciate it, Jay, 20 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: Thanks for having them. My man, So I know you 21 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: got a. 22 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: Million things going on. You just started well, I don't 23 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: know if you just structed you got a new podcast going, 24 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: your touring all over the place. Yeah, but I kind 25 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: of want to talk to you about where your career started, 26 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: but now kind of where it is now you are 27 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: just like it's almost like, hey, I'm going to be 28 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: the unfiltered voice for the world, whether you like it 29 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: or not. 30 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: Thank you. 31 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 4: Well, I you know, I started as an actor. Well, 32 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 4: I actually started as a stand up comedian. That's my 33 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 4: first sort of goal. Dream was to be the next 34 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 4: Eddie Murphy or the white Eddie Murphy, and you know, 35 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 4: and I wanted to be a stand up comic the 36 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 4: way you know in the eighties and nineties stand up comics, 37 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: you know, would do their stand up and then sort of, 38 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 4: you know, segue into you know, acting sort of based 39 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 4: on their stand up comedy. 40 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 3: I was nineteen. I didn't know what I wanted to 41 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: do with my life. 42 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: I'd spent my entire youth since I was about ten 43 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 4: years old, hoping and dreaming that I'd be in the NBA. 44 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 4: That's what I really wanted to be, was a basketball player. 45 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 4: And then when I realized that wasn't going anywhere, you know, 46 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: I said, let me try stand up comedy. And I 47 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: tried that, and I, you know, I it wasn't that 48 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 4: good of a stand up comedy. But as soon as 49 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 4: I went on stage in La, I had moved from 50 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 4: New York to LA to pursue this dream, I would 51 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 4: get called in for acting auditions. And you know, honestly, 52 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 4: the first time I read side the scenes to audition, 53 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: it was like it made perfect sense to me. It 54 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 4: was easier than stand up comedy. It was certainly easier 55 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 4: than basketball. Was it just made sense to me, like, 56 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: you know, acting and expressing emotions and the beats and 57 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 4: the sort of fundamentals of acting was like a fish 58 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 4: in water. 59 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: And I was like, this is what I'm going to do. 60 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: And I started doing that had you know, a lot 61 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 4: of success quickly, and you know, I haven't looked back. 62 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 3: And I shortly after. 63 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 4: That, I stopped doing stand up comedy, which I'm back 64 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: doing and now again, as you. 65 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: Mentioned, I'm going on tour in the fall. 66 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: I'll be all over the country, touring all over you know, 67 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 4: all all the cities where where the big games will 68 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: be playing. 69 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm actually doing a show in Israel, 70 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: which I'm excited about that. 71 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: That's awesome. I love it. Which I could definitely use 72 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: some definitely use here that around how perfect. 73 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 4: I love it absolutely, and you know, and I fell 74 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 4: in love with acting and I'm always gonna love my acting. 75 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: And as far as like, you know, the social media 76 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 3: of it all. 77 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 4: You know, in the last ten eleven years, when social 78 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: media has emerged, I at first I would talk about 79 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: the mundane. I talk about sports, I talk about popular culture, 80 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: talk about music, you know, silly things, you know, walking 81 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 4: my dog and walcome doing this. And then you know, 82 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 4: one day I said something that was a social you know, 83 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: had some social substance, and people just. 84 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: Responded to that. 85 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 4: And you know, I didn't pay attention to politics at all. 86 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 4: I didn't pay attention to I mean literally at all 87 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 4: eight years ago. 88 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: But I do now and I talk about that. 89 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 4: And you know, as you get older, I think, you know, 90 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: certain things you know, mean take a more meaning and 91 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 4: you know, and I try to balance it all. 92 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: You know, I'm always gonna love acting. 93 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, now, every single day is changing. 94 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: You know, in the sports world, you know, the news 95 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 4: cycle is quick, and it's like you know, in the 96 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: you know, political social world, you know, and it's especially 97 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 4: this past week it's been one of the craziest weeks 98 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: we've ever had, and you know, I try to talk 99 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: about it all, you know, I it's been a little 100 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: bit hard. 101 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: With everything that's going on to focus on the mundane. 102 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 4: You know, I was talking to my friend about last 103 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 4: season's fantasy football uh uh season, and I have not 104 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: only did my team suck, but I wasn't even able 105 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 4: to focus on my team sucking, but just because of 106 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 4: everything that that's been going on. 107 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: For the last nine months in Israel. So I want to. 108 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 4: Try to balance it more because you know, I'm getting 109 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: pumped up for my fantasy football season, which is the 110 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 4: utmost important, Like whatever you're doing in your life, whatever, 111 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 4: the most important thing is how is my team rap 112 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: reports the light aka history of violence. 113 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: Aka get stopped? But how how am I going to 114 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: be doing that? 115 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 4: That's the utmost important and rightfully so, but that's what 116 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: sports is great. 117 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: Like. 118 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: Look, I'm like, you are trying not to watch politics, 119 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: try not to watch the news, try not to watch 120 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: social media, and sport. I think like this year, especially 121 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: because when you have you know, the way the political 122 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: landscape is right now, it's people are war in our country, 123 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: and sports kind of brings everybody together, and that's fine. 124 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: You have to remember to go to those welcome distractions. 125 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: That's why I think sports and movies and stuff are 126 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: so important because it gives us our welcome distraction. 127 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: But what the real world is if you will one 128 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 3: hundred percent. 129 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 4: And I you know, like I said last season, I 130 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: wasn't able to do it. You know, it is the 131 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 4: first time in a long time, like I wasn't able 132 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 4: to appreciate. By the time the playoffs went around, like 133 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 4: I was just like, I have to do it. But 134 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 4: you know, during the regular season, you know, football Sundays, 135 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: Monday nights, you know, sometimes Thursday nights, but Sunday is 136 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: It's Americana. 137 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: And I wasn't able to do it. But I have 138 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: the virus. 139 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: Why, Like, as a Jewish man in this country, stand 140 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: for me and you know, I don't. I never talk 141 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: politics or anything like that. I just think the way 142 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 2: we are on our show, we keep away from from things. 143 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, there was a lot to be worried about 144 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: it just the climate of this country. So it's almost 145 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: like you're like, and I haven't talked about the guys 146 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: on our show, Like guys, I know, I need to 147 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: talk sports. But this happened when we came back from COVID. 148 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, I know, I'm supposed to talk about the 149 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: infl inside or stuff, but I feel guilty when people 150 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: are dying out there, you know, feel guilty when there's 151 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: hostages still out there. And but Jay, this is your job. 152 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: You've got to do this, So I understand what you're saying. We, 153 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: I think, do have to do a better job of 154 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: making sure we find a balance that we keep. You look, 155 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: if we have to fight one fight on one side, 156 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: we have to make sure we balance it on the other. 157 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: We almost have to force ourselves to one hundred percent, 158 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: you know, one hundred percent, you. 159 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: Know, And and it is tough and the balance and 160 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: you know what you should say, what you shouldn't say, 161 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 4: what you can say, what's acceptable to say, what's the 162 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: time of it all? 163 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: You know? 164 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: For me, I just jump in. I say what I 165 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 4: want when I want to say it. And you know, 166 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 4: I don't think of ramifications. I don't think of feelings like. 167 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 4: I just articulate myself for better or for worse. And 168 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: you know, especially regarding social media, when I do that, 169 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 4: that's why it comes off the way it comes off 170 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: because it is not premeditated, like if something's going on. 171 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: Like the good thing about. 172 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: Social media for me is that it is an outlet, 173 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: uh for for for for those those thoughts and those 174 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 4: feelings and those frustrations. 175 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: But it's it's it's a crazy time. 176 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: It's it's a crazy time, and you know time, it's 177 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 4: crazy time, it's scary time, and and you know it's 178 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: be you know, you think like the the like I said, 179 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 4: the sports news. You know, you know when you do 180 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 4: your updates game right before is this person playing? Is 181 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 4: this person not playing? You know, and you're giving us 182 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 4: this information. I mean, you know it's like you know 183 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 4: so and that's fun. For the most part, it's fun. 184 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: You know if somebody's not injured, you know, like this. 185 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 4: Person starting or you know, justin Jefferson is hip this filly? 186 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 4: You know all that stuff which which we wait for 187 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 4: your your updates every morning. How do you get those 188 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 4: those updates? Is it coming in via text? Are you 189 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 4: getting phone calls? 190 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: I know sometimes you're at the stadium, you're in No, 191 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: I'm out stadium. 192 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: And was it well only only a postseason but no, 193 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 2: it's constant text and phone call and it doesn't stop, 194 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: and it doesn't stop, and doun stop. I'll tell you 195 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: it was like there was a quarterback who was uh 196 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: who everybody was saying was out and I don't want 197 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: to try not to keep my source up, so trying 198 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: to do this. And my producer's like, hey, so we 199 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: got to come and say he's out. I'm like, he's 200 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: not out. He's like, what do you mean? I said, 201 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: my guy is making the decision and he's ten feet 202 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: from right now, texting me in real time what's going on. 203 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: And here's the truth. They just gave him a turtle 204 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: injection and my guy's like, what's out. I'm like, well, 205 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: that's the other thing you guys don't understand. Turtle takes 206 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: a half out to really kick in. They gave him 207 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: a turtle. Then they're shooting them over here with Lighty 208 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: Kane and so we're gonna know him about half hour. 209 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: But I'm not willing to go with it. And my 210 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: producer was like, you're fucking crazy, but we're going you're crazy. 211 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: And I'm literally getting it in real time, real time, 212 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: real time, and I'm like and I'm sending texts that 213 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: I know the other insiders don't say like, hey, is 214 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: the so we're not work yet? Has it kicked in 215 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 2: as it shot kicked in yet? These motherfuckers have no 216 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 2: idea what that is and or how it works. Unfortunately, 217 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: I've got to take too many toward dolls because my 218 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: dumb ass still fights with people and trains these guys. 219 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: But it's literally that I have from day one. And 220 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: it goes back to my first day in the Giant 221 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 2: locker room in ninety three. I had no experience and 222 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: you know, no education compared to these cats. Nothing. But 223 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: I was like, man, how could I be different? And 224 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: I was like, these guys all use their pen as 225 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: a weapon. I'm going to start relationships. And for the 226 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: first ten years I got destroyed for starting relationships fifteen years. 227 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: But over time, like those relationships, man, thirty five of 228 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: those guys become head coaches, thirty of them become general managers. 229 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: And I've been with guys forever. 230 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: Never burn anybody. It's like you you collect these relationships 231 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: over over the years, and I kind of look at like, 232 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 2: we're not doing You're not doing We're not covering the 233 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: Middle East, we're not we're not that important. We're talking 234 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: about sports. 235 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: It's it. But the art of the relationship and the 236 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,359 Speaker 3: art of loyalty is a dying. 237 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: Art and it was back then, and I kind of 238 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: looked like, I'm going to try and perfect that as 239 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: much as I can. And that's how I get those 240 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: and my guys, thank God, have been there for me 241 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: forever with stuff like that. 242 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 3: But it's pretty wild, man, it's pretty wild. Do you do? 243 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 3: You do? 244 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 4: You do? 245 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 3: You like? 246 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 4: The landscape in sports media, social media, but specifically sports 247 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 4: media has changed so freaking much just since and since 248 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 4: you being involved, you know, with now every pot everybody 249 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 4: does relationships, Yeah, everybody. Everybody got a podcast, everybody got 250 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 4: a d M, everybody got this, everybody you know, it's 251 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: an expert AI. You know, everybody knows numbers and all 252 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 4: this I mean, is it? Is it frustrating to you, 253 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: Like how do you sort of continue to keep you know, 254 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 4: your information and your sort of brand and you know, 255 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 4: like everybody you know, because because like everybody, everybody thinks 256 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: they're a nod ale and I've heard this and I've 257 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: heard that, and you just say shit all the time, 258 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 4: like to keep your shit the most fresh, not. 259 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: Just say shit, but they steal shit in two seconds, 260 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: and I've talked to gods. Right, let's not do this. 261 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: You know, I talk to the other inside about it. Hey, 262 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: don't do it. You know, when there's enough scoop for 263 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 2: all of us to go around. But when guys start, 264 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: I tell them two things, Hey, don't ever get anything wrong. Ever, 265 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: most guys they get so much pressure from their bosses, 266 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: they don't give a shit. 267 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: They just want to placate their bosses. 268 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, look, you're gonna have a pressure to not 269 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 2: get beaten by me and Adam Schefter, but just make 270 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: sure you hold just don't get anything wrong. And that's huge. 271 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: And you know, I can count on less than one 272 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: hand things I've gotten wrong over the past thirty years. 273 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: My thirty second team and the same right, it's the 274 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 2: same time two years. And I look fantastic, don't I look? 275 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: You look good. 276 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: You look good, Jake. But at the same time, I 277 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: tell these guys also, don't get anything wrong, but also 278 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: don't steal people shit, like you'll never see me confirm 279 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: something that ESPN NFL Neward cats. I'm like, if they 280 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: got it, they must have confirmed it. I don't do 281 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 2: this shit. You guys got it. You guys got it, 282 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,599 Speaker 2: but I would say there's enough for us all to 283 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: go around, just lett somebody else have it. But they've 284 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: kind of all got it down with science now where 285 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: they'll like credit you with the first tweet and then 286 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: put their own tweet out two seconds later if that 287 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 2: doesn't have a name, so they could say we credit you, 288 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: and then that's the second tweet is the one that 289 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: gets They constantly retreat, retreat, so it gets forgotten about. 290 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you a funny one. When I broke 291 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: this offseason that was pretty much at It came out 292 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: of nowhere that the Chargers were trading Keenan Allen to 293 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: the Bears. 294 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: Came out of nowhere. The person who told me. 295 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: I said, hey, I want you to and he's like, hey, 296 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: when you basically when do you want to break it? Uh, 297 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: we got this done. It's up to you and it's yours. 298 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: I said, man, I'm gonna midle to it something. I 299 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: want to get it now. But Lily couldn't. And I said, hey, 300 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: probably about ten to fifteen minutes you think it a hold. 301 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, it's definitely hold. I said, great, no way, Yeah, 302 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: I should have told you. No, I said, I want 303 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: you to watch what happens. I want you to bring 304 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: up every insider their Twitter, and I want you to 305 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: see what my business is like and I want you 306 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: to see how. 307 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: They do it. 308 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: And they called back and they're like, your business is 309 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: fucked up. These people just man, they're shame or they'll 310 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: have somebody whople say they've learned, but clearly they didn't. 311 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 2: Like they clearly didn't learn it, you know what I mean. 312 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: I decided when it came out, so it didn't happen 313 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: a second ago, and I was but it was really 314 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: fun and they were just it was an education for them. 315 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: But it was pretty wild. But I want to go. 316 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 2: And you just talked about social media part how things 317 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: are changing, all right. So for me, I definitely was 318 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 2: crazier back in the day. I think as I've got 319 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: and that was kind of like my brand. 320 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: Hey, Glazer's crazy. 321 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: But now man, I started talking more mental health instead 322 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: of just crazy and more to pain. I've it, I 323 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: can help people. I've become a lot more tame and 324 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: almost like. 325 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: All right, now you got all this shit to lose you. 326 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: In the past, I was crazy because I figured I'd 327 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: lose it because I didn't deserve it, so I didn't care. 328 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: I was like, fuck, I'm gonna lose it anyway, might 329 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: as well go. 330 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: And that's kind of more where I want to be. 331 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 2: And now I'm like, all right, I don't want to 332 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: lose what I have, So I become more tame, but 333 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: also as crazy as I am. Right, I functioning, trained 334 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: thousand football players and fired as mixed martial arts. 335 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: I tangle with the best room. 336 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: But my feelings get hurt easy. So on social media 337 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: when people say shit, shit, fucking burd it gets me. 338 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: So I tried not to look anymore. You are attacking 339 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: social media in a way where you get fucking all this, 340 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: where you get the worst, most hateful, pain ash shit 341 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: I've ever seen. How do you, Hey, do you block 342 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: it out? And how are you able to compartmentalize it? 343 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 4: You know the way I compartmentalize it and the way 344 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 4: I block it out and the way I deal with it, 345 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 4: Uh doesn't try. 346 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: I say, it doesn't hurt the feelings. It doesn't really 347 00:14:59,080 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: hurt my feelings. 348 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: To be totally honest with you, you know, I got 349 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: a lot to learn from you here. You know, the 350 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 4: people on social media. God blessed the ones who I know, 351 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: God blessed the ones who I don't know. First of all, 352 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: the majority of social media, particularly with the hate and 353 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: the political and the social and the anti anti Semitism 354 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 4: and all that stuff, the majority of those people and 355 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: the majority of the tweets and the majority of the 356 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: responses are robots. 357 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: That's a fact. That is a fact. 358 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: Really, And fuck yeah, there's so many fake accounts, puppet 359 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 4: sock puppet accounts. 360 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: You know, computer accounts and all that shit. Number one. 361 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 4: Number two, if it is a real person, you know, 362 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 4: whether it's a compliment or negative. As far as on 363 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 4: social media, Like you know, if you say on the 364 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: greatest things since slice bread, I don't walk around going yo, 365 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 4: that person said, I'm the greatest thing since sliced bread. 366 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 4: So if I'm not going to take the compliment, I'm 367 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: certainly not going to take their insult. 368 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: There are some. 369 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: Times where you know you'll be like h But for 370 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: the most part, I just keep keep rocking. It's just like, 371 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 4: you know, as far as fame and and people you 372 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: know coming up to me, you know, which I've been 373 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 4: fortunate enough, you know, to be an actor successful actor 374 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 4: for so many years, you know, and I've had so many, 375 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 4: you know, interactions with people saying, I love you in this, 376 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 4: I love you in that, this is my favorite thing, 377 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: This is my favorite and I and I take it 378 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 4: all in and I appreciate every single time someone says 379 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 4: that to me, because you know, it's being an actor. 380 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 4: There could be far worse things and nobody knowing who 381 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 4: you are. So sometimes you're like, you know, you don't 382 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: want to talk sometimes. 383 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: But I I'm. 384 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 4: Blessed to be doing this so long that people, you know, 385 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 4: if I've given joy, you know, from one thing or another. 386 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 4: But it doesn't make me feel like I'm you know, 387 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 4: I'm the shit. I'm the greatest actor ever, you know. 388 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: And if someone said you sucked in this, you sucked 389 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 4: in that, it wouldn't matter really the end of the day. 390 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: And it sounds like a cliche. It sounds like a cliche, 391 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: but it is true. 392 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: And because when people you know, young young actors or 393 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 4: podcasters or even you know, people that want to get 394 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: in you know, sort of media, they ask me, you know, 395 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: what's the thing I say, the most important thing, and 396 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 4: I say this to myself still at fifty four years old, 397 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 4: is you must be your biggest fan and you must 398 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 4: be your harshest critic, and that's what sort of keeps me, 399 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 4: you know, in line. You know that, and my wife 400 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 4: keep me bounced, you know. So as far as the 401 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 4: social media shit, I don't take the compliments, you know, 402 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: to heart. I appreciate every single one of them, and 403 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 4: I certainly am not going to take, you know, the 404 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 4: insults to heart. And it's part of the game, you know. 405 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: I'm used to it, you know, and I do. I 406 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 4: do know that a lot of it is is is 407 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 4: faith your stuff, because you know, especially regarding football, football 408 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 4: fans are fucking crazy. Sports fans are not. So if 409 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 4: you just pointed with this and Jay, you don't know 410 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 4: what the fuck you're talking about, or whatever shit they 411 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 4: might say to you. You know, you you told Michael 412 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 4: Rapport you look fantastic, you look like shit, blah blahah 413 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: blah blah blah. 414 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: You know all these things. 415 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 4: You know, it's like, all right, cool, whatever, But you know, 416 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: football and sports fans, it's it's it's a crazier thing. 417 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: Like if you get bad information or misinformation. 418 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 4: You said, you know, Aaron Rodgers is gonna play and 419 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 4: you know his achilles is healthy, but he didn't make 420 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 4: it past this gi you know, all those things, you know, 421 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, I'd like to 422 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 4: think that most of those people are are you know, 423 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 4: they're crazy sports fans. 424 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 3: They're not just crazy people gonna do something crazy. 425 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 2: It's just yeah, well I think half it is hurt people, 426 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: hurt people, and everyone's so hurt nowadays, right, so they 427 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 2: want to I did melt down a couple of years ago. 428 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 2: I reported that out of nowhere that Giants we're going 429 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 2: to trade Odell Beckham, and you Giant fans, what fucking 430 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: ballistic on me, by the way, I've been covering the 431 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: team since ninety three. So then I get mad, going, 432 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: oh shit, Gladiers said that must be true, and they 433 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 2: did it, and I ended up sending out a tweet, 434 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: and I've got in trouble a couple of times. 435 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 3: I regret it. 436 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: One time I got into it with some of his 437 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: wife what. I liked the guy a lot and probably 438 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: should have definitely shouldn't said what I said. I was 439 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: coming back from a fight moving with Chuck Ladell and 440 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: he just lost and I was with him and I 441 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: was in a bad mood. But a couple of times 442 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: I kind of do shit, and but this one was 443 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: to all those giant fans who were killing me. I 444 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: was like, hey, all you fuck sticks out there who 445 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: got mad at me and my mom and my kids. 446 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: Mom and my son's like all this shit. I said, 447 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 2: do you get this man when your kid gets a 448 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: D on the report card? No, so shut the fuck up, 449 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: leave me the fuck alone. And it went it's about 450 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: viral thing I ever did, and really yeah, my bosters 451 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: were and then Strayhand was even like, bro, we all 452 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: wish we could do that. That's who you are. You're 453 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 2: that guy now right back that guy. And they called me, 454 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: they go, hey, okay, I'm like, yemn fine, they go, well, 455 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 2: you you know, did you really have to call people 456 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 2: fox Sticks? And said I did because they weren't just 457 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: hitting me. They're going on my friends. And then people 458 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: who I was helping with sobriety, they're going on here 459 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: Instagram saying hey, I hope you fucking fall up because 460 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 2: you're you're friends with this guy. I hope you fucking 461 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 2: you junkie this and fucking terrible. Who would say that's crazy? 462 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 4: That's crazy And if the if the worst thing you said, 463 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 4: it's fox sticks I mean it's. 464 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 2: Good, that's g rating for you. 465 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: It's sticks. 466 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 4: I mean, that's like, that's what at least it's an 467 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: insult that makes you like a fox stick is a funny. 468 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: So I got another question for here, but I know, 469 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: fuck I got you know clinical ADHD. I know you 470 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 2: have you've talked about your A d D. Also, so 471 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 2: you said the sides for you when you're acting were easy. Yes, 472 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you how so what I did? 473 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: I did five years of Ballers, right, and yeah, I 474 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 2: got saying thing. I couldn't remember any when I do Fox, 475 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: I don't have any telepropter. I just go and you know, 476 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: I have to names the guys I'm gonna talk about 477 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 2: for the ins and ounce, but none of us besides 478 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: current of telepropter. We just go. But also I wasn't 479 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: really able with my add that to remember ship and 480 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: if finally Dwayne, thank god, the Rockers, just like, just 481 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 2: just just let him be him. Just don't feel like 482 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: I'm like I said, right, just let him do him. 483 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: How are you able to remember pages and pages of 484 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: copy to remember of your lines and side. 485 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 4: You know, you you go over it. It's it's like 486 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 4: a muscle it's like a memory muscle. For me, it's 487 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 4: like a memory muscle. It's like if you you know, 488 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 4: you're doing a weird exercise and you know, like a 489 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 4: burpie or something like that. It's like eventually you'll it'll 490 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 4: start to become easier and easier, and and to be honest, 491 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 4: if it's good writing, I have no problem with it. 492 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 4: Like the only time I've had problems with with lines 493 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 4: or scenes. And one thing people don't understand is when 494 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 4: you shoot a movie, you shoot a TV show, you 495 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 4: shoot that scene, whether it's a one page scene, a 496 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: five page scene, so you're not focusing on the whole 497 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty page script or sixty page script 498 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 4: if you're doing TV. 499 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: And you show it over and over and over and over. Yeah, 500 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: yeah exactly. 501 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 4: But but in general, as far as memory memorizing lines 502 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 4: and stuff like that, it's it's not that hard, particularly 503 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 4: if it's if it's good writing. If it's good writing, 504 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 4: and this is what we do, you know, like, this 505 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 4: is this is what I do. And it just like 506 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 4: I said, you know, I spent you know, hours, more 507 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 4: than ten thousand hours hoping, praying, working on my left hand, 508 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 4: working on my right hand, you know, crossover dribble, step 509 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 4: back dribble, you know, step back, jump shut. And it 510 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 4: just never came as easy as acting to me. And 511 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 4: it just makes sense to me. It just makes sense 512 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 4: to me. And performing, you know, it just it makes 513 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 4: sense to me, right Like it's just like it's a 514 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 4: it's like an intrinsic thing. It's just like like a 515 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 4: natural thing. Not to say that I don't work at it, 516 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 4: but it just it just comes naturally to me. And 517 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 4: getting the emotions and all that stuff, it all comes 518 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: naturally to me. 519 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: You know. Again, you started as a stand up comic. 520 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 2: I actually started as coming in nineteen eighty nine, what. 521 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know. 522 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: And that to me was way harder than getting kicked 523 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: in my face by Chuck Wodell in a cage. 524 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 3: That's crazy. It's because I felt like I had no control. 525 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: I felt like I get it right, like if I had. 526 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 3: You got a great set. 527 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: But like the guy before you shit the bed or 528 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 2: the waiter sucks, or the someone in the crow whatever 529 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: it is. I mean, what for you is the hardest 530 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: thing about comedy and the easiest thing. 531 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 3: That's a good question. The easiest thing is I never 532 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 3: had any fear. 533 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: You know, you get nervous sometimes a big show, you know, 534 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 4: or or if you're doing new stuff, there. 535 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: Might be a little tinge of adrenaline. 536 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 4: That's the easiest part of it, you know, I would 537 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 4: say the hardest part of it is, you know, writing, 538 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 4: coming up with new stuff, coming up with Suth. 539 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: That's totally genuine to me. 540 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 4: And but you know, the silence never never made me 541 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 4: feel scared, you know, failing never made me feel scared. 542 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 4: On stage, I would be way more concern about getting 543 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 4: kicked in the face by Chuck Ladell or you or 544 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 4: any any any anybody else, and that would be way 545 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 4: more of a concern for me. 546 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 3: You know. 547 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 4: The reality about stand up is, you know, for the 548 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 4: most part, unless you're at that level where people are 549 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 4: just gonna laugh, you know, Kevin Hart, the great ones, 550 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 4: the big ones who people come to see and they 551 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 4: spend their money. You know, they've built this such a 552 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 4: trust with the audience. Uh, and they've earned that, Jerry Seinfel, 553 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 4: whoever it is, they know that at a certain point 554 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 4: they're getting laughs because of who. 555 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: They are, you know, and obviously they fight through that. 556 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you know, if 557 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 4: you're doing you know, just you know, a spot at 558 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 4: the improv or a spot at the laugh actor are 559 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 4: like a local club. You know, Uh, some nights you 560 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 4: got it, some nights you don't have it. You could 561 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 4: bring some shitty energy to a crowd and it not 562 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 4: worked you. The crowd just might not be driving with 563 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 4: you. You might not be on your game, and you know, 564 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 4: it's like it's like bad, it's like batting. It's like, yo, 565 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: all right, I struck out next night, you you keep going. 566 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 4: I don't take that ship personally. I think you know, 567 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 4: a lot of stand up comics state they struggle with. 568 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 3: That, you know, specific specifically stand up comics. I think 569 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: that's why they get, you. 570 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 4: Know, they're they're they're very specific breed. I consider myself 571 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: an actor before I am a stand up comic. Like 572 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 4: stand up comedians, their personality is fucked up, like pure 573 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 4: stand ups. They're they're weird. They're weirder than actors and 574 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 4: they're weirder than you. And that's hard to be wed 575 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 4: h J. But you know, I just keep it in perspective, 576 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 4: and you know, if you kick ass, I don't think 577 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 4: I'm you know, Eddie Murphy in the red suit, and 578 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 4: and if I if I suck, I don't think that 579 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 4: you know that there's there's not the next show. 580 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: You know, you just keep keep swinging. And I know 581 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 3: that sounds kind of basic, CAUSEFF like that, but. 582 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: That's just how I I keep, you know, I keep 583 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 4: a level sort of playing field with myself. I'm fair 584 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 4: to myself. And like I said, I'm my biggest critic 585 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 4: and my biggest fan. 586 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: I understand the biggest fan part, right, kind of love 587 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 2: yourself up. A lot of us don't know how to 588 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 2: love ourselves up. You have to write and we have 589 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 2: to give ourselves grace. And most people they just well, 590 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: I shouldn't say both. A lot too many. Oh know 591 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: how we have to practice that. If I get up 592 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 2: every morning, I'll put a song on, I'll meditate, And 593 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: now i'll meditate, I'll think about things that I am 594 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: grateful for. For one song, it could be anything. It 595 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: could be fucking pair of shoes I was going by, 596 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: but it could be things I've done in the past. 597 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: It could be the same thing over and over and over. 598 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: But then also things. The next song is things I'm 599 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: proud of and I I've got to work at it. 600 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 2: I've got to work at being proud at these things. 601 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: And you know, people look and they feel like, well, 602 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 2: I'm not being humble if I'm bragging about myself. Fuck, 603 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: yes you are. You you did it. It ain't bragging 604 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: If it's true, you can do it right. So but 605 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 2: my question is, how what's to look like to be 606 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: your biggest critic? What does that mean? 607 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 3: That's a good question. 608 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 4: What it looks like to me to be my biggest 609 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 4: critic is it's really in relationships. You know, all the 610 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 4: business shit and acting and you know this show, that 611 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 4: show and this take that, you know, this meeting that 612 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 4: shit is. It's it's really like in my personal life. 613 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 4: You know, it's really with my wife. It's really like 614 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 4: how I behave uh, you know, throughout the day, how 615 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 4: I keep you know, I'm a very emotional person, as 616 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 4: you can imagine. And you know, sometimes with my emotions, 617 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 4: you know, get the better of me. They've gotten I've 618 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 4: gotten way better as as I've getting gotten older, and 619 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 4: and it could just be you know, even in the 620 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 4: car seeing you motherfucker get the fuck out of my way. 621 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: You know, like I used to not even pay attention 622 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: to that kind of thing. Just simple as that. I'm 623 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: not telling them like I'm never like crazy road rage person, 624 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 4: but even simple as that or you know, stupid shit 625 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 4: like traffic. But you know, just being the best person 626 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 4: I can't be in the best listener I can, and 627 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 4: being in control of my emotions, and and being you know, 628 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 4: the best husband, the best father, the best friend, and 629 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 4: and you know, and and the list goes down. But 630 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 4: it really, you know, has to do with you know, 631 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 4: the the personal ship is the most important, and you 632 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 4: know the other things. You know, I feel like I 633 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 4: have a good traction on professional life, you know. 634 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 3: But but I'm you know, sorry as being grateful. 635 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm certainly you know, during this hostage crisis, 636 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 4: you know, Jay. 637 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 3: You know, like really, you know, being grateful. 638 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 4: It sounds stupid, you know, or it sounds sort of cliche, 639 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,239 Speaker 4: but like being grateful to be able to wake up 640 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 4: in my own bed, being grateful to be able to, 641 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 4: you know, go piss when I want to piss to 642 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 4: being grateful to be able to you know, get a 643 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 4: kiss and a hug like these these things have gotten 644 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 4: so much more important to me, and I've become a 645 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 4: lot more aware of them. To be totally honest with you, 646 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 4: you know, through throughout this because I know that so 647 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 4: many other people you know, can't. 648 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: And and and I'm conscious of that, you know, throughout 649 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: the day. I really am. 650 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 4: And and you know, and I and I and I am. 651 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 4: I'm aware of that every single day. And and you know, 652 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 4: the more and more I think I'm aware of those things. 653 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 4: You know, there's a you know, it gets bigger and 654 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 4: bigger of what you can do, what you can't do, 655 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 4: what you you know, the blessing to be even. 656 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 3: Have internet, to be able to talk to you on this, 657 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: you know. 658 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 4: I mean there's so many different things that I can't 659 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 4: complain about, you know, if fucking traffic or you know, 660 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 4: my my coffee getting fucked up. It's like, you know, 661 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 4: I live a super duper blessed life, you know, and 662 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 4: my health fortunately is in good, you know condition. So 663 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 4: it's hard to you know, really really complain about a lot. 664 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 3: That's the truth. 665 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: Look, I love the fact that you're constantly out there also, 666 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: you know, make sure everybody knows that there's still houses 667 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: just God, and I love that. I love that. And 668 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: I think the whole thing has kind of got convoluted 669 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: of you know, between war of Israel and God's and 670 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: what's going on. But it really is about those people 671 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: that we're living everyday lives and all of a sudden 672 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: their lives were taken from them, and we people have 673 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: kind of lost their eye on the ball, in my opinion. 674 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 3: So I do appreciate that you've constantly done that. 675 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: You just and again, I had a guest on here 676 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: and I'm SHAWSHAWNA Johnson, the first ever black female American 677 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: pow and her description and she was caught. She was 678 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: in captive for keptating for twenty two days, and she 679 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: told she was a day away from losing her life. 680 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: She thought she got her last meal the night before, 681 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: next to Saddam's hometown to greet. They kept moving her. 682 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: But she said, right when it happened, she said, and 683 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: this is on the podcast, she said, I they did 684 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: mean the same thing that Amasa has done to the 685 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: Israelis that they've taken from the music festival and the kibbutz. 686 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: She said, they put me in the back of a 687 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: truck and they spit at me, and they beat me, 688 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: and they paraded me from town to town and she 689 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: got put I think at seven different places. And it's 690 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: just man's it's not the way God wanted a stack. 691 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: Let's say that. Okay, not at all. And you know, again, 692 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: I think we've lost track of those innocent people you 693 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: were just there. How was the experience for you in 694 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: Israel when you were there? And also like, how are 695 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: are I know what's going on? How is the relationship 696 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: and I don't want to diving a whole political thing 697 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: or the relationship inside Israel between the Israelis and the 698 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: the the Iarbs who lived there together. 699 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 4: From what you saw, yeah, well, you know, obviously Israel 700 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 4: there's a lot of sadness, there's a lot of heartbreak, 701 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 4: There's a tremendous amount of of PTSD. 702 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 3: It's a small place, you know, Israel is the size 703 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 3: of New Jersey. 704 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 4: You know, the populated areas are are even you know closer. 705 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: You know, everybody knows somebody who was unfortunately either killed 706 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 4: or kidnapped or kidnapped and released or injured on October seventh. 707 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 3: And when I say everybody, I mean everybody from here. Yeah, 708 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 3: I mean everybody, every single person. 709 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 4: So you know the fact that it's ongoing, you know, 710 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 4: people haven't been able to mourn correctly, you know, because 711 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 4: you know how can you mourn when this is still happening. 712 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 4: You know, there is something, you know, we talk about 713 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 4: like New Yorkers, there's a thing about us, you know, 714 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: you talk about you know, like there's a certain thing 715 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 4: about and and and there is a there is a 716 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 4: thing about the people of Israel. And there's a thing 717 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 4: about the Jewish people. And it is true. They have 718 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 4: a light and a resilience and a lust for life, 719 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 4: a true lust for life. And you talk about being 720 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 4: appreciating the little things and appreciating light. 721 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 3: That is as a it's a characteristic that you'll. 722 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 4: Find in israelis as soon as you get there, through 723 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 4: through crisis and and and. 724 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 3: Not through crisis. 725 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 4: They have a lust and appreciation for life, and there's 726 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 4: a light within them. 727 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: You know. 728 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 4: As far as the way you know, people are getting along, 729 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 4: it's hard for me to answer that. You know, I 730 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 4: think it's in general, you know, at the end of 731 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 4: the day, I think that people just want to live 732 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 4: their lives. And people want to, you know, want everything 733 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 4: around the world. You know, people want to wake up, 734 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 4: they want to you know, be able to take care 735 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 4: of themselves. They want safety, they want you know, their 736 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 4: family to be able to eat, you know, two three 737 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 4: meals a day. 738 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 3: You know, you want a couple of weeks of vacation, 739 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 3: you know. 740 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 4: And I think that the one thing that you know 741 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 4: is a parent, you know, without going too far in 742 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 4: the politics of it all, Jays is that the reality 743 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 4: is that Israel, whether you think they have a right 744 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 4: to exist or not, they have been you know, Israel 745 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 4: has been attacked ten hours after it was announced as 746 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 4: a state, literally ten hours afterward was announced as a 747 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 4: state forty eight years ago, and it's been under attack 748 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 4: ever since then. And that there are some people that 749 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 4: that never wanted it to exist and do not want 750 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 4: it to exist seventy five years later. 751 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: You know. 752 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 4: I think that's why you have the lust and the 753 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 4: appreciation for life within Israel, and also the the resilience 754 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 4: to continue to be tough and not take any shit. 755 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's try because you're talking about, you know, 756 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: the right to exist. Everybody's had the right to exist. 757 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous that we don't. And it's not just Israel 758 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 2: and God's and parasites, places in Africa, places, I mean, 759 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: there's been it's constant, you know, through our history. But 760 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,959 Speaker 2: it's funny and I get the questions and kids asked 761 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: me so often that was like, how come we Woady 762 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: has you? Why? Everybody? You know, it's like, why doverybody 763 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 2: hate you guys? Why? And so it's like it's now 764 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 2: bringing an issue to be able to talk to my friends. Look, 765 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: I grew up in Jersey Shore looking like I'm Italian 766 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: and I'm Jewish, so I heard it all. I heard 767 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 2: the closet stuff coming out and saying stuff, and I 768 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 2: had to defend myself early on. But it look, it 769 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 2: shouldn't be with any group. I am one of the 770 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 2: guys who believes it should be one united world under God, 771 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: and I'll live that for the rest of my life. 772 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 3: I'm never not going to live that way. I'm gonna 773 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 3: believe it, and I know it's not It's kind. 774 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 2: Of hard when everybody has, you know, different beliefs, how 775 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 2: they go along. But for to hate any group, whether 776 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: it's Jews or Blacks or Mexicans, are Asian, whoever it is, 777 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: because of how they look or how they have there's 778 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 2: certain how they live their culture is ridiculous. Frankly has 779 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 2: nothing to do with you, right, And. 780 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 3: It's fucking ridiculous. 781 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, ridiculous, Like I'm never gonna shame someone because they 782 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 2: were brought up differently in a different set of cultures 783 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: that they were born into. It's nothing to do with them. 784 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 2: So I just think it's Look, I think I wish 785 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 2: the rest of the world would look at it like, hey, 786 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: it is one united of world under God. 787 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 3: Uh. But I know that's just that's a far cry. 788 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 3: But I just want to say, man. 789 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: I appreciate, you know, bringing the attention for those hostages 790 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: and also for their you. 791 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 3: Know, differences and how kind of people go back. 792 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: To this oh right to exist thing. So it's just 793 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: I know it's not We're certainly not a political podcast, 794 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: but I do think voices like. 795 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: Yours are important that canteract the ones that make no 796 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 3: sense appreciate they're born out of ignorance. 797 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. 798 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: Man, I appreciate it. 799 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: Quick here talk about your podcast. 800 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 3: Uh, the im Rapp Reports Stereo podcast, which is, uh, 801 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,479 Speaker 3: you know, we've been going. 802 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 4: You know, we started before everybody and their cousin and 803 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 4: their mother and their sister has had a podcast. I 804 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 4: would love for you to be a guest because I 805 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 4: have so many kids. I could ask you because it 806 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 4: set up. Yeah, I'm being Pittsburgh, San Francisco, all over 807 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 4: the country and all tickets information is available Michael Rapportcomedy 808 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 4: dot com. 809 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 3: And you know, and I'm just you know, doing my thing. 810 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 4: And then, uh, you know, like I said, I'm pumped 811 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 4: up for fantasy football. 812 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: I'm psyched up for fantasy football. 813 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 2: Uh you got one team? 814 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 3: How many teams in leads? You got two teams? Two teams? 815 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 4: And like I said, last year, in one of my leagues, 816 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 4: in The Stern Show, the Howard Stern Show League, I 817 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 4: went to the finals that law and lost, which means 818 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 4: I lost. I don't know why I came in second place. 819 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 4: No one gives a shit that you can't listen. No 820 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 4: one gives a shit that you came in second place 821 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 4: in the NFL. Certainly no one gives a shit that 822 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 4: you came in second place in your fantasy football league. 823 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 3: So I love Austin that. And then in my money league, 824 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 3: I took a fucking bath. 825 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 4: And I'm talking about a big bubble bath with a 826 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 4: rubber ducky that's always And I am not used to 827 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 4: losing my fantasy football So you know, revenge is going 828 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 4: to be served out all over the place, and I'm 829 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 4: gonna be I just I'm so excited for this season. 830 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 3: There's so many questions, so many new faces, new places. 831 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's a fast reality show on the planet. 832 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 2: Right is the greatest reality show on the planet. And 833 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: half the time listen, I put out about one percent 834 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 2: of want to know, have you geared the other shit? 835 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 2: You'd be like you like bowlers was tame. It's not 836 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 2: the shit we really know is. It's funny and the 837 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 2: world doesn't know this. The other reports kind of do. 838 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: Every NFL Owners meeting, I go and I have a 839 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 2: thing just with me and. 840 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 3: All the coaches. 841 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 2: This year we had twenty five of us, just me 842 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: and the coaches, no one else, you and the head coaches. 843 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 2: Twenty five us had a couple gms, right, And I've 844 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 2: been doing this Mike Tomlin and I started. It's like 845 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: seventeen years ago. But we start telling the new head coaches, 846 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 2: hey man, this is what's about to come across your desk, 847 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 2: and I make the old coaches tell them the crazy 848 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: shit that's happened to them, which is which I can't 849 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: say here. 850 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 3: But it's so it's just like private stuff. 851 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 2: Yes, but that's really happened. So if you, if I, 852 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 2: if you went in right now and try to sell 853 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 2: a Hollywood script and I gave you these stories that 854 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: actually happened, they would laugh you out of the room 855 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: and saying there's no way these things happened. They're so outlandish, 856 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: there's no way they happened. And it's just it's fucking unbelievable. 857 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 2: It is the greatest reality show the world. But I mean, 858 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 2: there are ships, there's shit that goes on. That's just 859 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 2: And the crazy thing is these are coaches. 860 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 3: They're not. 861 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: They didn't get most of them. They didn't get mastered 862 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 2: in psychology. They didn't you know, they weren't schooled in 863 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: how to be therapists. And all of a sudden they 864 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 2: go from you know, calling x's and o's to being 865 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 2: a head coach is more about all the shit that 866 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 2: comes across your desk than it is about the xident os. 867 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 3: Really, same with the g Sure, and let me ask 868 00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 3: you a question. 869 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question because I know we 870 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 4: don't have a lot of. 871 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 3: Time, and I have all these questions for you. 872 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 4: And I was in your gym one time and Jadavian Clowney, 873 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 4: Jadavian Clowney was in. 874 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 3: There, yea, and and I just was like, I like, 875 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 3: you was on there with with fifteen other players, but. 876 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 4: I just remember because I was like, you know, like 877 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 4: I saw him in like I've been around NBA players, 878 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 4: but I was like, he looks like an NBA player. Yeah, 879 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 4: like you know, I don't want to say on steroids 880 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 4: because I know he's not on serious, but like he's 881 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 4: built like an NBA player, but like sixty pounds heavier, 882 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 4: and and I was just like holy shit. 883 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 3: And wrestled as Yeah, that's what, Like, who are. 884 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 4: The three most spectacular athletes that you've like wrestled with, 885 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 4: like like, and I know there's. 886 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 3: Probably ten of them, twenty of them. And I know 887 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 3: you can go on and on, but if you said, 888 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 3: like off the top of your head with you know, 889 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 3: without and I know you're gonna. 890 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 4: Run people out, but if I said, who are the 891 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 4: three most impressive as I thinks that you've had in 892 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 4: the gym. 893 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 3: Not on a field, but you've had firstly in the gym. 894 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 2: So all right, yeah, I've trained, like I said myself. 895 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 2: I started this program in two thousand and seven with 896 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 2: Jared Allen, who was like a. 897 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 3: Part time d end and a full time long snapper. 898 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 3: People don't remember that they trained with us. 899 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 2: He went out and got fifteen sacks, highest contract ever 900 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 2: and that everybody called said whatever you did for him, 901 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 2: do it for us. And the next guy was Patrick 902 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 2: Willison and Brian Cushing and then Clay Matthews. He went 903 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 2: from ten sacks to seventeen and then the flugates open. 904 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 2: Everyone called. So I teamed up with Randy Gatour and 905 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 2: we brought in like Chuck Ladell and Jay Iron and 906 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 2: Tyron Woodley and all these people over the years to 907 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 2: come up with this have am training program for guys 908 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: where it was also like, we're gonna teach football players 909 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 2: to turn it into a fight, and we're going to 910 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 2: give him this fight the fighter mentality. At the same time, 911 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 2: these football players are going to teach all my fighters 912 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 2: the sport. 913 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 3: IQ. 914 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 2: You've got to be brilliant to play football, dude, brilliant 915 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 2: like you talked about add I can't remember like you 916 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: know lines. 917 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 3: These cats have a book of shit that they have 918 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 3: to remember. And the plays. 919 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 2: It's not in English, you know, it's thirty two double 920 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 2: trip call my Eggy Papa Smurf Albutquerque you know, slam damn, 921 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 2: thank you, ma'am, fourteen double rod salad. 922 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 3: It's fucking crazy. 923 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 2: And then all chae, pages and pages, so you got 924 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 2: to be brilliant, but also like teaching. Like these guys 925 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 2: would watch film over and over and over and over 926 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 2: and over to look for the littlest nuance. And I 927 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 2: would sit there. Look, I'm blessed. My best friend was strayant, 928 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 2: and he I didn't have enough money when I started 929 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 2: to go from New York City to take a subway 930 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 2: to a bus to Giants Stadium, back and forth every day. 931 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 2: So Michael drive me back home every single day from 932 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 2: ninety three to ninety nine, twenty eight Grand and Lincoln 933 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 2: Tunnel Fair. But I'd sit there with them. He'd watched 934 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 2: film and watch film and watch film. He'd be like, dud, dude, 935 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: look at this. Look at this. I'm like, what are 936 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 2: you look at it? It's like, look notice this on 937 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 2: third downs when they're gonna run a certain play, watch 938 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: the right guard's elbow. I'm like, what are we looking at? 939 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 2: He's like, look at twitches. I'm like, the fuck are 940 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 2: you looking at it? He's like, look at twitches on 941 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 2: run blades. Watch this watch the difference. I'm like, bro, 942 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 2: I can't see what you're fucking talking about. Eventually, over 943 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 2: after years of it, I started seeing it for it's glaring. 944 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,919 Speaker 2: But then I started having like having these guys teach 945 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 2: the fighters the same thing, these nuanced, these little things 946 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,240 Speaker 2: because they just went out fought right. So and Randy 947 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 2: Gatour is really the first to start watching film and 948 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 2: they can do that. 949 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 3: But back to your things. 950 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 2: So We've done so many of these guys, and I'm 951 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 2: going to talk about like the most impressive listened out 952 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 2: in Cleveland. We tr train Miles Garrett and the first 953 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 2: time we teach him a lot of an fighting. 954 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 3: The first time he did everything anything to me. 955 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 2: And now this huge pan of my forum and I've 956 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 2: been get hundreds and hundreds of dns do shit and 957 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 2: strike my forms. I'm like, that shit fucking hurt. Damn 958 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 2: his socksiye. So Miles was like really high up there 959 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 2: he went, How big is he? 960 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 3: How tall is he? 961 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think he's like six ' five to eighty whatever, 962 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 2: but he is so solid and so he crack through 963 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 2: the strongest is Kyle Long. 964 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 3: Holy shit, he. 965 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 2: Is fucking ridiculous. And Kyle, I've known him since he 966 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 2: was like seven or nine. So he looks still like 967 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 2: to me his uncle glaze, you know, and big breather. 968 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 2: So he still like will jump on my back when 969 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 2: I'm out, looking like he's still seven years old. He's 970 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 2: fucking three forty. This year I was able to work 971 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 2: a little with Max Crosby. He's different, he's gumbay, he 972 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 2: gets you know again, I'm five seven and I'm wrestling 973 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 2: with these guys. My whole thing is keep your base, 974 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 2: but get under me. We teach him kind of Grego 975 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 2: Roman wrestling because you can't touch below the waist to 976 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 2: really helps lineman. He was able to bend all the 977 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 2: way under me and still have strength and leverage. And 978 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 2: that was pretty fucking sick man the words. And I'm 979 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 2: trying to think, oh, but athletic wise, Odell Beckham like 980 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 2: he would do it wasn't even he just picks shit 981 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 2: up so fast. 982 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 3: But then he would do. 983 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 2: Other stuff in the gym, like like agility work where 984 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 2: the whole gym would just stop. Be like, what the 985 00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 2: fuck was that? 986 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,760 Speaker 3: Like, I ain't never seen anything like that before, And yeah. 987 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 2: It's it's pretty cool, by the way, real quick, the 988 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 2: way Jadavian Clowney came to us I meant the orders 989 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 2: meeting and his head coach, Bill O'Brien, i't really met 990 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 2: him yet. I was with a bunch of guys. I 991 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 2: was friends with my John Fox and Bruce Arians and 992 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 2: Seam Payton, all these guys and Tomlin and I have this, 993 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 2: like you said, that New York attitude, right, I have it. 994 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 2: And Bill O'Brien said something to me, like they asked 995 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 2: him something. 996 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 3: He goes, hey, I. 997 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 2: Better not see this on Fox sports dot com. And 998 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 2: I said, motherfucker, who the fuck you think you're talking to. 999 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 2: Don't ever fucking embarrass me in front of my guys 1000 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 2: and my too. I won't beat the fuck out of you. 1001 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 2: I said that. And he looked to me and I said, 1002 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 2: just because you coach football and I don't, does not 1003 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 2: mean you can whip my ass. And you can't because 1004 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 2: I'll beat the dog fuck out you, don't you ever? 1005 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,760 Speaker 2: And all the other coach. 1006 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 3: Said, well, well. 1007 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 2: Well, and Bill goes is he really liked this all 1008 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 2: the time, And Tomlin's like, absolutely absolutely, Bill, don't go 1009 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 2: And he's like, holy shit, I got to start sending 1010 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 2: some players to you about it. 1011 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 3: And I cloudy. 1012 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 2: He goes, if you could get some of that clowny 1013 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 2: were set, he had him on a plane to me 1014 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 2: the next week. 1015 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,479 Speaker 3: That's just funny. Yeah, not taking ship. 1016 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,479 Speaker 2: But it's also like again, you it's it's it isn't 1017 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 2: authenticity we have. And that's why I said, I feel 1018 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 2: like I'm losing mine as I've gotten I guess more refined, 1019 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 2: if you will. But I like that version of me better. 1020 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 2: But I also know that version of me gets on hints. 1021 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 2: So I'm trying to get my mental health in a 1022 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 2: better place and not always unhinge. I call it the beast. 1023 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,439 Speaker 2: I love that beast. But I saw Mike Tyson talking 1024 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 2: about I'm working on the art of humility now, and 1025 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 2: it's it's hard, it's hard to balance him. 1026 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 3: I totally understand. I totally understand, And I think, you know, 1027 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,919 Speaker 3: I think. 1028 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's age, it's mistakes, it's you know, 1029 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 4: wanting to learn from the mistakes. And I think it's 1030 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 4: I think you're in a good place and I think 1031 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 4: that you know you you you hit the gym enough 1032 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 4: to be able to get all the you know, the dars. 1033 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 2: To count down. 1034 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Listen, you gotta be able to have to. Man, 1035 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 4: you can't keep up, especially we get older. Man, You 1036 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 4: know you gotta be able to. 1037 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 3: You got to be able to at least learn from 1038 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 3: your mistakes. You can't lay that shield down somehow. 1039 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1040 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 4: Shit, man, if you can't learn from your own mistakes, 1041 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:13,479 Speaker 4: then you. 1042 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 3: Know, fuck you gotta you gotta it. 1043 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 4: You know, got to me making another mistake, but I'll 1044 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 4: keep learning from him. 1045 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 2: I'm asking one last question here, brother, I asked, all, 1046 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 2: I guess this. Yeah, it's called Unbreakable, a Mental Wealth podcast. 1047 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,919 Speaker 2: Give me your unbreakable moment in life, something that should 1048 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 2: have broken, you could have but didn't, and as a result, 1049 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 2: you came through the other side of that tunnel stronger forever, 1050 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 2: could be in anything, could be career, life, shit, it's 1051 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what I would say, you know. 1052 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 4: The most the most relatable, uh you know, sort of colorful. 1053 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 3: Story that I could give you is the first movie 1054 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 3: that I was doing. 1055 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 4: This movie that Oliver Stone produced called zebra Heads, small 1056 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 4: little independent movie won an award at Sunday. It's the 1057 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 4: same year that Read of Our Dogs, you know, won 1058 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 4: an award at Sundance. I know nothing about nothing about nothing. 1059 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,479 Speaker 4: I got cast in it, and I was the star 1060 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 4: of this movie. I didn't know anything about being on 1061 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 4: a set. You talk probably like you know, the camera 1062 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 4: was over here. I'm I didn't know what the fuck 1063 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 4: was doing, but I knew I was doing good, and 1064 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 4: I knew between action and take I was able to do. 1065 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 3: I was doing good. And halfway through the movie the 1066 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 3: producer tried to get me fired. 1067 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 4: No, yeah, and and and I remember hearing it, and 1068 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 4: I remember literally being in. 1069 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,720 Speaker 3: My hotel in Detroit, like just like, just stay focused, 1070 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 3: don't worry about that. 1071 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 4: But I remember literally going like this, like put like, 1072 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 4: just don't don't fucking listen to it. 1073 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 3: Don't believe like I know I'm doing good, like. 1074 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 4: And like and and and and and I was able to, 1075 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 4: you know, to continue that movie. And you know, like 1076 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 4: I said, you know, we won an award at the 1077 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 4: Sundance Film Festival, and you know, and I was able. 1078 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 4: That was the beginning of what I was able to do. 1079 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 4: But I know that if I had been rattled by 1080 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 4: it or freaked out by it, or didn't have that 1081 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 4: belief in myself and didn't have that trust, even though 1082 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 4: I didn't know what I was doing, I knew what 1083 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 4: I was doing was real, Like I knew like my, 1084 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 4: like my what I What I didn't know was that 1085 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 4: one hundred percent of what I was doing was authentic 1086 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,240 Speaker 4: one hundred percent, And. 1087 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 3: That would have really fucked me up. 1088 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 4: And then the other thing I would say, Jay, is 1089 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 4: right now, you know, because you know, as as as 1090 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 4: a Jewish man with all the anti Semitism and all 1091 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 4: the anti Jewishness, with all the chaos in the world 1092 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 4: and the you know, don't say this, don't say that, 1093 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 4: and you're gonna get canceled and all that stuff, to 1094 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 4: be able to really intrinsically not only just trust what 1095 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 4: I know, but also to educate myself even more to 1096 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 4: be able to stand on what I know is right, yeah, authentic, 1097 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 4: because because because I'm going through something right now, and 1098 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 4: I think a lot a lot of people are going 1099 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 4: through something right now, and I don't know where it's 1100 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 4: going to end. 1101 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 3: But you know, I talk about my wife a lot. 1102 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 4: You know, and you know, you're like, is it worth 1103 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 4: it to say what you're saying? 1104 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 3: Is it not worth it to say what you're saying? 1105 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 4: I have to stand by, stand up for myself and 1106 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 4: stand up for. 1107 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 3: My people because you know, not to get too political. 1108 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 4: I've spoken on everybody's behalf, everybody's fucking behalf. 1109 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 3: When there's you know this, that and the third, I've 1110 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:19,799 Speaker 3: spoken up. 1111 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 4: So I'm certainly gonna speak up the loudest, uh you know, 1112 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,720 Speaker 4: from my people, especially when there's been so much doubt, 1113 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 4: uh you know, put out there about uh, you know, 1114 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 4: being Jewish. 1115 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 3: So those those are the two things, brother. 1116 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I got to go on your podcast. 1117 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 2: Let's you pet me with everything. I'll open up to 1118 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 2: you more than if people don't really talk to me 1119 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 2: a lot anymore about how it wasn't and all those 1120 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 2: type of things. So I would love to man, I'd 1121 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 2: love to do you on yours. 1122 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I appreciate yet that day. And I 1123 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 4: love all your shit, and you know, I know the 1124 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 4: world loves your stuff. But I love your evolution and 1125 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,280 Speaker 4: you shouldn't be you should continue with your revolution. 1126 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 3: It's important. Man. If you were the same lunatic you 1127 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 3: were twenty years ago, how could you still be here? 1128 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 3: My man? Man, love you, dude. I appreciate it so much. 1129 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 2: Michael Robin Gurt, thank you for joining us here on 1130 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 2: the Unbreakable Mental Wealth podcast. 1131 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 3: I appreciate it, Jaye