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Speaker 1: all right, this Wednesday, everybody, we had the college football

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Speaker 1: playoff rankings release last night. We're gonna get into that,

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna dive into the rankings release. There's a

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Speaker 1: get it. If all of this stuff plays out to

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Speaker 1: the very end, right and you have multiple teams who

429
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Speaker 1: went out and they're they're the fifth or they're the

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Speaker 1: six and they're the first one out, then yes, that's tough,

431
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Speaker 1: just like Texas A and M last season. What I'm

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Speaker 1: saying is a lot of these teams still have a

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Speaker 1: gauntlet to play, they do. If they get through it,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna a lot of them are gonna get what

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Speaker 1: they want at the other end of it. And if

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Speaker 1: they don't get through it, then they're gonna be justly

437
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Speaker 1: left out. Yeah. Well, I don't think it's what is

438
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Speaker 1: Michigan winning or what is Michigan losing? To me, is

439
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Speaker 1: just getting it right. Sure, I just get it right,

440
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Speaker 1: that's all I'm asking. But speaking about getting it right, man,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Trailer's getting right at UTSA. We ready to bring

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Speaker 1: him in here, Yes, let's bring him. Let's bring in

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Speaker 1: coach Trailer. There is Jeff Trailer. Coach. What's up man doing?

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Speaker 1: Gregor Harry Hall doing great? I appreciate you taking time.

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Speaker 1: Congrats on all the success. I know it's an exciting

446
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Speaker 1: time out there for you and the rest of the

447
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Speaker 1: staff and the players. Yeah, we're doing great. He's got

448
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Speaker 1: to know. With practice this morning and getting ready to

449
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Speaker 1: suthern miss right now. Oh yeah, the Golden Eagles. But coach,

450
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Speaker 1: you know why, I want to get to what you

451
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Speaker 1: and the team have done on the field. But but

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Speaker 1: I do got to ask you. You've taken quite an

453
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Speaker 1: interesting journey to get to where you are. You know,

454
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Speaker 1: you spent time in the high school ranks. You go

455
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Speaker 1: from Gilmer to Texas. Just on a personal note, that

456
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Speaker 1: had to be a pretty cool moment when you got

457
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to go to, you know, the flagship school

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Speaker 1: in the state of Texas. Can you just talk about

459
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Speaker 1: your journey to getting you here? It seems meant to

460
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Speaker 1: be in my eyes, having a little technical difficulty there

461
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Speaker 1: with Coach Trailer. Yeah, he's good on our end and

462
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Speaker 1: let's see, let's see if we can work on that.

463
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Speaker 1: But no, it's a crazy if you haven't heard Coach Trailer,

464
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Speaker 1: this story is amazing getting to where he is now

465
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Speaker 1: Big twelve one of the Big twelve recruiters of the

466
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Speaker 1: year may have been the Big twelve recruiter of the

467
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Speaker 1: year when he was at Texas and then has made

468
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Speaker 1: the transition and now having a ton of success at UTSA.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna see coach rather, we got you back, I hope.

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Speaker 1: So there we go, There we go, yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a technological savant. I leave that to Con

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Speaker 1: I'll let him do the satellites and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But now I was just mentioning, you know, your career

474
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Speaker 1: up to this point, the time you spend in the

475
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Speaker 1: high school ranks and then going from Gilmour to Texas

476
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Speaker 1: and transitioning the way you have, it's a pretty exciting

477
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Speaker 1: journey and seems pretty meant to be. Yeah, I was

478
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Speaker 1: a high school football coach, come alma mater actually for

479
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Speaker 1: fifteen years. So if I'll taking a lot of great

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Speaker 1: pride in then I was lucky enough to coach Strong

481
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Speaker 1: be a job at the University of Texas and when

482
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Speaker 1: working him for a few years and blast to be

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Speaker 1: hired here at UTSA and number two thousand nineteen. It's

484
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Speaker 1: been a great two year run so far for sure.

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Speaker 1: And coach, you know, we all have identities, we have methodologies,

486
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Speaker 1: and you know your team and I've watched them played

487
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Speaker 1: the togetherness, I know, we always talk about it and

488
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Speaker 1: you guys, you know, with the triangle and stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: What is your core message or what is your core

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Speaker 1: belief or philosophy that you've instilled in this locker room

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Speaker 1: and in this program, and I'm sure a little bit

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Speaker 1: of it is rubbed off on you as well well.

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Speaker 1: Our hashtag two one o triangle of toughness of culture.

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Speaker 1: It's our brand. And the two one oh has a

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Speaker 1: lot of different significant kids to us. We vote for

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Speaker 1: our single digit kids zero through nine. Those are the

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Speaker 1: kids at best to pitomizes our five culture pillars. The

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Speaker 1: two one oh represents the San Antonio area code, So

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Speaker 1: our kids are were the two the one of the

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Speaker 1: zero even if the most vote, so those kids are

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Speaker 1: best to pitomizes our culture. And you know it's integrity

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Speaker 1: is our pinky promise. We guilder our ring finger, next passion,

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Speaker 1: juiceful and useful. Mental toughness is our mental finger, not

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Speaker 1: the dirty one, our index finger selfless. I'm always playing

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Speaker 1: for our team. And then our thumbs were all pointed ourselves,

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Speaker 1: which is perfect effort, the wad of fist, pound a fist,

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Speaker 1: drug's process and win to day. Those are our culture

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Speaker 1: fillers trial of toughness. For We're gonna be extremely physical

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Speaker 1: on defense. I'll be a great team, runs team on

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Speaker 1: offense and play our best players special team. So I

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Speaker 1: know that's a long long long brand there. If that's

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Speaker 1: that's what our kids are about, yeah, and you can

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Speaker 1: see it on the field and coach, you know, we

514
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Speaker 1: always talk about complimentary football on this show, and you

515
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Speaker 1: bring up playing the starters on special teams and this,

516
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Speaker 1: that and the other. Can you just talk about the

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Speaker 1: leadership that you guys have that has led to yall's

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Speaker 1: ability to play complimentary football. Because every week you turn

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Speaker 1: on the TV, somebody's offenses up, somebody's defenses down, somebody's

520
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Speaker 1: defenses up, to offenses down. But the trick it is

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Speaker 1: playing complimentary football, and it seems like you guys are

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Speaker 1: doing that out there. Our kids have really bought into it.

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Speaker 1: We paint. When I was a young head high school coach,

524
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Speaker 1: I called the game more from my offensive coordinator's point

525
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Speaker 1: of view. I just tried to outscore everybody who cares.

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Speaker 1: Sixty one fifty eight fifty nine fifty six. Fans loved it.

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Speaker 1: But then we started winning championships, and that fan basically

528
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Speaker 1: expected to win championships every single week. And it's impossible

529
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Speaker 1: in the state of Texas to win six games in

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Speaker 1: a row without having some bad weather somewhere in there.

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Speaker 1: And that's how many you gotta win the playoffs in

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Speaker 1: Texas a hooka football. Oh, I just gotta learn as

533
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Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta better run of football. You gotta

534
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Speaker 1: be all stop the rand. When the winds blowing and

535
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Speaker 1: it's cold and raining, it's hard to throw the football around.

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Speaker 1: So they kind of developed me as as a head coach.

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Speaker 1: And our kids have really bought yes to say and

538
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Speaker 1: couldn't be more proud of how they do, cought on

539
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Speaker 1: each other. They don't care what the score as long

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Speaker 1: as we have more points than other team. Yeah, and

541
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Speaker 1: you guys are all moving in one direction. And coach,

542
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Speaker 1: I know it's during the season and you guys probably

543
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Speaker 1: don't keep up with a ton of rankings, but how many.

544
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Speaker 1: It was a monumental moment when they release that top

545
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Speaker 1: twenty five in the playoff and you see Utsa in

546
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Speaker 1: there at number twenty three. What did that mean to

547
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Speaker 1: you and the guys in the program, Because it's it's

548
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Speaker 1: got to be a little bit of vindication even though

549
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Speaker 1: the journey is not complete. It's one of the great

550
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Speaker 1: things about coaching in a program that's so young, that's

551
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: our eleventh year had ever played football. We records every week.

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Speaker 1: I mean we most points scored this week, most yard

553
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Speaker 1: Maybe we're a new program, right, So first it was

554
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Speaker 1: the eight p Pole, then the Coach's Pole, and now

555
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Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff Bowl. Exciting time. You know, we

556
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Speaker 1: coach of the seventh largest city in the country and

557
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Speaker 1: we played in the Alamodome. We're in a new forty

558
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Speaker 1: one meeting our facility. He was an unbelievable multicultural city.

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Speaker 1: And uh, we can be able to fourth r right now,

560
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Speaker 1: just for our eleventh season. Yeah, and and coach, like

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Speaker 1: I said, congratulations, and I really appreciate your time. We're

562
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Speaker 1: gonna be keeping track of you. Much love to the

563
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: triangle continued success, Jeff Trailer, I really appreciate you, my friend.

564
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Speaker 1: Let's do this again and shout out Tommy Perry, one

565
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Speaker 1: of my favorite people in the world. Have me O

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Speaker 1: God bless birds up Hey for sure, Coach Trailer, I

567
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Speaker 1: do gotta ask you before you go. Does Coach Perry

568
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Speaker 1: still run around with the bull horne at practice? Oh?

569
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Speaker 1: Did we lose him? I'll say yes, yeah, Oh might

570
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Speaker 1: still be here. He might still be here, Coach Perry.

571
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Speaker 1: I used to love this. You always know everybody in

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Speaker 1: San Antonio probably knows where Tommy Perry is when they're

573
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Speaker 1: at practice because he's typically on the bullhorn. So that's

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Speaker 1: one I forgot to get that question in there. I'm

575
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Speaker 1: gonna get it next time. Coach Trailer. Actually, you still long?

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Speaker 1: Can you still hear me? Yeah? I'm still here. Does

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Speaker 1: Tommy coach does? Does Coach Perry still run around with

578
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Speaker 1: the bull hornet practice? No bullhorn? He does? No bull horn.

579
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Speaker 1: He's gonna get so pissed at me for saying that.

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Speaker 1: That's so hilarious, Coach Trailer. I really appreciate you, buddy,

581
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Speaker 1: and do it again soon. Thanks all right, brother, you too, Yes, sir,

582
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Speaker 1: great stuff there, man, what a great story birds, what

583
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Speaker 1: a great story. Blame what's the Booster Club? Saying? Oh,

584
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Speaker 1: we do have a ten dollars donation from the one

585
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Speaker 1: and only Girth Party this earlier, but I'm gonna say

586
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Speaker 1: it anyway because of this donation, And he says, fella,

587
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Speaker 1: how's o'how State ranked fourth? Right now? They lost to

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Speaker 1: the number three team and have no wins against any

589
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Speaker 1: of the Committee's top twenty five teams. Is it just

590
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: name recognition, recruiting rankings? You know? Look at this point too,

591
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: there's so much carnage going on and so much to

592
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Speaker 1: be had that this this is an argument that you

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Speaker 1: can make, because my question would be back to you

594
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Speaker 1: right now, who would you put in that fourth spot?

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Speaker 1: You can't tell me. Cincinnati, I know I'm not going

596
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Speaker 1: for that. Oklahoma would be an argument because they are undefeated.

597
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Speaker 1: Even though I'm with you, I think they go down

598
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Speaker 1: in the regular season over the course of the next

599
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Speaker 1: three four weeks. And we also have to remember there's

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Speaker 1: a caveat. I think a lot of people are forgetting

601
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Speaker 1: most conferences have championship games. American Cincinnati's gonna have to

602
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Speaker 1: play Houston. We're looking at the other I mean, I'm

603
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: telling you guys right now, going into championship week, if

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Speaker 1: Alabama finishes a regular season without losing again going up

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Speaker 1: against Georgia, that's that's playoff bearing george is automatically in

606
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Speaker 1: with no losses. They could lose that game and still

607
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Speaker 1: get in. But you look at Ohio State that has

608
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Speaker 1: to play a championship game in them, Michigan, Michigan State,

609
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Speaker 1: and Penn State are all on one side. Ye, so

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Speaker 1: you know they'll probably play who Minnesota or somebody who

611
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: actually just lost to Illinois I don't know who's looking

612
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Speaker 1: at it's looking like Wisconsin like and Wisconsin's playing pretty

613
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: good right now, right now, Wisconsins looking piste off upfront.

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Speaker 1: That's what scares you about Wisconsin. But but you look around.

615
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: Oregon still guns to play a conference championship game, and

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Speaker 1: I'm still skeptical, hippo about them going to Utah, Utah

617
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Speaker 1: at Utah. That's gonna that's gonna be a dangerous, dangerous game.

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Speaker 1: So you can look around and you know, look at

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Speaker 1: these championship games and say, wait a minute, now, wait

620
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Speaker 1: a minute, acc man, what it doesn't matter. But you

621
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Speaker 1: look at Big ten, you look at you know, Big twelve,

622
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma having a play championship game. It's going to be

623
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Speaker 1: very interesting to see how not only the end of

624
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Speaker 1: the regular season effects playoff positioning, but how the committee

625
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: uses the championship game, because you will have some legitimate

626
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: play in like that. There will be almost four play

627
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Speaker 1: in game really three outside of Georgia in my opinion,

628
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Speaker 1: play in games because if you're Alabama and you finish

629
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Speaker 1: the regular season undefeated and you go lose a Georgia

630
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Speaker 1: and have two losses, you need help around the country

631
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Speaker 1: because then you start asking, Okay, Oregon with two losses

632
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Speaker 1: and Bama with two losses, Ohio State with two losses,

633
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Speaker 1: Bama with two losses. So to me, that's where this

634
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,239
Speaker 1: argument is going to get very very interesting if we

635
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Speaker 1: start transitioning to who are the three best one loss

636
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Speaker 1: teams behind and undefeated Georgia or who are the two

637
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Speaker 1: to three best two loss teams, because we could have

638
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Speaker 1: a situation where we have a three loss team from

639
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Speaker 1: the West play in the SEC championship game. Yeah, it's

640
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: not impossible, you know. I just I just had a

641
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: thought here and it's unvetted, so I don't know, you

642
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: tear it up if I'm off base somewhere. But what

643
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: if I mean, it's called the Playoff committee right for

644
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs, So what if when they do release, they

645
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: only release the top four who they have in the

646
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: playoff right now and not the full twenty five. Then

647
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: if they did that with this one that we were

648
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: looking at, they'd have the exact same four that we

649
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: had right we wouldn't even know the rest and if

650
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: someone jumps out, if someone comes in as the weeks

651
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: go on, it mean it's really only the top four spots.

652
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: Making a compromise between me and You're not necessarily and

653
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: this is why I'm saying it's maybe not the best

654
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: just throw out unvetted ideas on live TV. But I'm

655
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: just asking, well, I just thought about it, like, what

656
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 1: if it were we only need the four spots from them, right,

657
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: So why is it a top twenty five that's coming out.

658
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't be pissed about it, you know,

659
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: to me, I think to me, I would air more

660
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: on the side of give me the top eight, are

661
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: the top ten, give me the top ten? So I know,

662
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I'd say my only argument is that

663
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: I just want to know where I'm act. Right, Well,

664
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't matter. It's irrelevant, right, it's irrelevant,

665
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: but it's irrelevant, but it's not. It's one of those

666
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: weird purgatorical arguments. Yeah, I'm okay, you're okay, but that's okay.

667
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: We just wanted to be okay, also saying I've just

668
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: seen that one. Yeah, excually the top ten at least

669
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: speaking of you want to play some film in the gap? Oh,

670
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: let's play film ahead. And I want to say this

671
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: before we start. So Blaine and Cone and our producer Ryan.

672
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give his last name on air

673
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: because he's super duper popular. But y'all had something going

674
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: on in that chat. I think it's called like Jay

675
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: Boys stinks or something like that. Y'alls a little group

676
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: chat where you'all just I'm sorry, let me let me be,

677
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: let me be more concisely. Sure, y'all had a looking

678
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: y'all's eye earlier when y'all are debating something, I didn't

679
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: like it. I don't know what it was about, but

680
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: I didn't like it, and I and it's worrying me

681
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: about what's about to happen. Well, good, well, you just

682
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: you fill in the gaps. You just fill in these

683
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: gaps here, okay. And the first one is Nebraska's decision

684
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: to keep Scott Frost. You put him on the clock. Okay,

685
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: you put him on the clock. I'd fill in the

686
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: gap with I would say, kicking the can down the road,

687
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: per se you think so, yeah, it's kind of like

688
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: the debt sailing. They're like, wow, I just push it back,

689
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: we'll handle it later. To me, I think they're saying,

690
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: Scott Frost, here's where you stand. We are giving you

691
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: another year. Now. The question is What is enough is winning?

692
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: Is it a you must win your division in the

693
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: big twelve? I don't think it is. I think it's

694
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: you need to be somewhat big ten. I'm sorry, you

695
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: need to be somewhat relevant into November. Do you think

696
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: they gave him the you know, the exact template, like

697
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: I think it was pretty clear because look, at the

698
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: end of day, if I'm Scott Frost, good, at least

699
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: I know where I stand. All I want to know

700
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: is where I stand. Has it been great and rainbows

701
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: and this, that and the other? No? Do I think

702
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: you know eventually he could turn it around in one

703
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: more year. I mean, you look at Jim Harball kind

704
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: of similar, but Jim's won more games than Scott has.

705
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: So to me, at least you know where you stand,

706
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: where the administration stands, where the athletic department stands, and

707
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna get Danny woodhead On here eventually to talk

708
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: about this. You know, Danny played at Chattern, big Nebraska fan.

709
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: We owned Danny woodhead absolute, which for the Patriots Chargers

710
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of different places. But no, to me, I

711
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: think they put them on the clock, and you know what,

712
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: good for them at least you know where you're staying,

713
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: all right, So Caleb Williams chances of winning the Heisman

714
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: are not literally the Vegas odds small. I know our buddy,

715
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: I know our buddy, Tom Lugan, Bill's big on the

716
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams hype training. Look to me, it's hard to

717
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: win the Hysman when you only play six or seven games.

718
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: I know, Like I think, when we start going looking

719
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: at that, then you're saying, okay, well, maybe the first

720
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: three or four weeks don't don't matter. But I look

721
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: at Bryce Young, I look at Kenneth Walker. I know

722
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: Ridder's fallen down, Matt Carroll's falling down. It's got a

723
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: big opportunity this weekend. But I just it would he

724
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: would have to be spectacular, like spectacular, and Bryce Young

725
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: and Kenneth Walker would have to struggle. I think it

726
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: would take a series of events Domino's falling, chains and pulleys,

727
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: pulleying and chaining to be able to make that happen. So,

728
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's but he's a hell of

729
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: a player, all right. The chances Dion Sanders coaches a

730
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: Power five team are I think good? I think yeah, yeah,

731
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: I think they're good. Um. Now, the biggest question to

732
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: me is if you're Deon Sanders, if you're going to leave,

733
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: I think you have to lead for Power five. I

734
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: don't think you can lead for group of five. After

735
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: all the stuff that's been said about going to HBCUs

736
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: and making them relevant, I don't think you could hold

737
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: anything in the Power five realm against Dion and what

738
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: they've said and Eddie George in the same vein, and

739
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: going through all the coaches there. I think in the

740
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: way that college football is today, the way social media is,

741
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: the way that recruiting is nil, I think Dion is

742
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: an actual viable candidate, and he knows football. Obviously, he's

743
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: one of the best dbs and football players of all time.

744
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: And I think he's he's a pretty good coach or

745
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: at least you know, shown it, and he is himself.

746
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: I will give coach prime credit. He is one hundred

747
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: percent himself, and I would like to see it at

748
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: a Power five. I would like to see how he

749
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: does because I think it could be kind of a

750
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: pathway a little bit if he has success to maybe

751
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: getting you know different, I guess you could say avenues

752
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: to get to Power five and different personalities. I mean,

753
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: we see it all the time. You have coaches that

754
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: have been retired. How many times you talking about Bob

755
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: Stoops and stuff like this, getting guys that have been

756
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: maybe outside of the realm of the Power five for

757
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: a while getting them back in there. I think Dion

758
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: would just add to that, so I would say, good,

759
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: all right, So Louisville's going to retire Lamar Jackson's number

760
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: this Saturday. I want to know who's the best player

761
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: college football player in the last five years. Man, that's

762
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: a great question. How long has Derrick Henry been in

763
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: the Titans? Been more than five? He was a sixteen guy,

764
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: I think so. I think he was a sixteen guy. Man,

765
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's up there. Yeah. They gave him the ball

766
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: back to back games like forty six times and then

767
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: forty eight times, and he was just running like he

768
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: was like the dad running against kids in the highest

769
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: level of Power five college football. I mean, I think

770
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: you'd have to put Derreck Henry in there if he

771
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: falls in the last five. You know, got Joe Burrow? Yeah,

772
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, to me, it's hard not to say Joe Burrow.

773
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Lamar was a baller. But Joe was a

774
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: baller too, man. Yeah, but Lamar didn't have anybody. Lamar

775
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: was doing it buy himself and what Lamar was Lamartin

776
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: was defying the laws of Yeah. Yeah, Lamar was different. Now, Now,

777
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: if you're asking me, if you're saying the best individual

778
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: player regardless of how much games they won, this, that

779
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: and the other, then I think you could say Lamar

780
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: with not a lot of argument. But if we're saying

781
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: the best player of the last five years and aggregate,

782
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: when you can buy everything from championships and playing in

783
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: a conference like the SEC and having to go undefeated

784
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: that Gauntlet and beaten Bam on the road and doing

785
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: those things, it's tough for me not to say Joe Burrow. Yeah,

786
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: I think Joe as well. All Right, So here isn't

787
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: it is? It is the dance you would injure yourself doing?

788
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: Is what Jake Gray, what dance would it be? What

789
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: dance would I do? Injurine? I add something to that,

790
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: what you're at on? What dance would you get hurt doing?

791
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: And also what's your go to move? Wow? And will

792
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: you and will you? And when you demonstrate it? Please? No?

793
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: Well no, hell no to that. The first one, the

794
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: one that would a would injure myself, probably the worm,

795
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: probably the word for something like something was wrong. Yeah,

796
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: you're right, I was. I was Yeah, something's off, something off.

797
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: The one I would say my signature move. Gosh is

798
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: it is like, you know, like just I'm on those

799
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: guys like in the club, I'm just like chilling. You know,

800
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm not out there like break dancing on like my

801
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: spinning on my head on cardboard with like a boom

802
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: box next to me, or I'm not you know, out

803
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: there like doing the stinky like you know, I'm just

804
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm a viber man. But if I had this go to,

805
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: you know, I can throw the dice a little bit. Whoa,

806
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: there was always but now I'm at Look, look I

807
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: can get down when I gotta get down. Let's just

808
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: leave it at that shout out up like a high school.

809
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: You'll know what it is. Chaperones were afraid to chaperone.

810
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: That's how we got down. That's how we got down.

811
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to legally talk about my dances. Yeah

812
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: we're not talking about boy. We can't tell that story

813
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: on it. John Travolta. The principle called him John Travolta

814
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: for what he did during the We can't get into it.

815
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: Maybe that's like in the R. Sure, it's a it's

816
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: a story that is hilarious but equally horrifying and embarrassing.

817
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: What is the Booster Club saying? Before we get to

818
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: Josh Pate, we have another donation. Lord, I haven't heard

819
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: from this guy in a while, from gum Vader. He says,

820
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: Jay boy, you were explaining that he was funny. Appreciate it.

821
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: Explain the transfer reporter rules? Uh, where if you lost

822
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: five you can get five? Can you try to try

823
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: to find out the total number of scholarships next year? Okay, Well,

824
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: we had Ross Dellen drawn yesterday and talked about this.

825
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: So they changed it from twenty five, where you can

826
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: only intake twenty five scholarship guys a year, to thirty

827
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: two I believe was the number that Ross said. And

828
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: I think it's seven transfer seven yet are there, So

829
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: they're adding seven to it to try and balance out

830
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: the outtake intake, which is a big deal. Like it's

831
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: a housekeeping thing. It's an administrative and organizational thing. We're

832
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: not going to talk about in the locker room. But

833
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about it in the staff meeting, and

834
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: I want our audience to be informed on that. So

835
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: when you're like, wait a minute, how are we signing

836
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: more people this year than we're able to last year? Well,

837
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: they increase the limit, which they should have when you

838
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: let as many people leave as humanly possible with no penalty.

839
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: It's outtake, intakes, apply, and demand, pretty pretty standard stuff.

840
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: If you had ten transferred, you could only have a

841
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: deficit of three potentially if you got your seven transfers

842
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: in your twenty five scholarship. That's exactly correct. But I've

843
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: got a question here from Nate Kitchens and ye, do

844
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: you feel like the committee is propping up other teams

845
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: to get a two loss Abaminon. I don't think it's

846
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: that conspiratorial. Is that a word? God? That sounds territorial? Conspiratorial?

847
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: Alexa Man, that was close conspiratorial. It's a good word.

848
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that one in the word piggy the

849
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: mind to piggy Bank. Look, I don't think it's that deep,

850
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: but here's what I'll tell you. If it comes down

851
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: to two loss teams, or a two loss team gets in,

852
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: you can bet your bottom dollar, it's gonna be Bama.

853
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: I can promise you that when it comes down to

854
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: it and you have five two loss teams in the room,

855
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: Bama's getting in to quote Little or Finanny, you can

856
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: bet your bottom dollar on that. She was a theologian,

857
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: went from us. There was a Drake meet Mill, the Pokemon,

858
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: the little Yeah where yeah started, Yeah we really with

859
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: Michael Caine. Yeah did you did? You got a questionnaire

860
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: from Kyle Kennedy was at count He says, do you

861
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: think the question comes up? Kyle? Yeah, yeah, Now ask

862
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: me the question. You can't just do that and then

863
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: the question you just did it about the committee the

864
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: question question. But we got a question from Kennedy do

865
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: you think the question comes up when comparing teams if

866
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: they switch schedules, what would their record be? Example? Do

867
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: they guess what since he's record to be if they

868
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: had Bama schedule, if since he had Bama schedule? You

869
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: know what can somebody you got Alabama schedule right there.

870
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: Let's go to it from the start to the finish.

871
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you when loss, if Cincinnati was playing

872
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: Bama SAMI neutral site with the Eric King, yep, loss,

873
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: do you think Miami beat Cincinnati. First game of the year,

874
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: first game of the year, all healthy with the Eric

875
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: King Yes, wow, Mercer. When Florida at Florida loss, Southern

876
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: Miss at home, when Old Miss at home, loss at

877
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: A and M loss at Mississippi State, I mean loss,

878
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee at home, loss, LSU at home, Mexico State, New

879
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: Mexico close state, when Arkansas where's it at at home?

880
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: Just for the hell of it, I'll give them one.

881
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 1: How about that at Jordan here loss. I'm telling here's

882
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Here's I'm gonna tell you guys, what's

883
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Okay, Cincinnati, we'll lose a regular season game.

884
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: And when they do, once the intro rolls for the

885
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: Jay Boys show and it kicks to me, I will

886
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: be sitting here with a sign, and all the sign

887
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: will say is cool story, bro, That's what we'll say,

888
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: because you know what, it's a cool story. Who there

889
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: be in Arkansas? There being Tennessee. Tennessee would score fifty

890
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 1: points on them right now, they'd score fifty on them. Yeah,

891
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: I said, I look, I'm nothing in Cincinnati and I

892
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: have and you called the notre Dame. Yeah you said,

893
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: they go with Yes. To me, it's just like this

894
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: in a cool story because they're gonna Notre Dame their

895
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: way into the playoffs. Like Notre daming is a verb,

896
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: now we can use it, they're gonna we can use

897
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,240
Speaker 1: every year. It's always a team and so usually Notre Dame.

898
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: But it's not a cool story because you're winning games.

899
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: You're Cincinnati. It's just not a cool story because you're

900
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: gonna Notre Dame. You're way into the playoffs. To me,

901
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: I think, let me explain by cool story, I mean

902
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: it is a it's a fun narrative to follow because

903
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: it's something new. But it's just like when you look

904
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: on these shows and people think just because they scream

905
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: or yell means they're right. Just because it's a cool

906
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: narrative doesn't mean you're one of the best teams in

907
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: the country. There's a lot of cool narratives out there

908
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: in everything. But if we approached everything else in life

909
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 1: the way we're doing it with Cincinnati right now, we'd

910
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: be in trouble because guess what if Walmart fought Target,

911
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: or if Walmart fought I don't know, a run of

912
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: the mill middle tier grocery chain. If Walmart fought Dollar General,

913
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: Walmart would bury them. They bury them. So what do

914
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: you think about those people who are using Alabama as

915
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: a verb on the other end, which is like, you

916
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: Alabama your way in with multiple losses? We know you

917
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: play in a tough division. Win has w has Alabama

918
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: multiple The only one was the year that they I

919
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: think Auburn beat them. They didn't go to the SEC championship.

920
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: Auburn went and lost to twenty seventeen seventeen, yeah, and

921
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: Bama got in and one. And that's the year UFC

922
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: you have claims national championship. And clearly Alabama was the

923
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: best team in the country. We wanted them in there, right.

924
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, what do you say to those people

925
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: who are like, listen, they had their shot. I know

926
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: they played in a tough division, they played the games

927
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: and they lost. They didn't even go to their conference championship,

928
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: and you should have someone else to me, this is

929
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: where you get into the minutia and get you get

930
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: into the finite issues. One loss we have got we

931
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: have got to stop treating every loss the same. We've

932
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: got to stop doing that. It's just common knowledge that

933
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: the SEC conference is better than the American Okay, that

934
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: is common, run of the mill knowledge. If you don't

935
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: believe that, If you don't believe that, then you probably

936
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: still believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus. Honestly,

937
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 1: if you really believe that the American in the Southeastern

938
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: Commerce are on equal playing are on equal footing, you're

939
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: out of your mind. So when we're sitting here comparing

940
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: a tight win over Tulsa and then a tight win

941
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: over Lsu, those are not comparable things. Those are that's

942
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 1: legitimately apples and oranges, but still in the fruit section,

943
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: how about we pick some apples and apples or oranges

944
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: and oranges we've got. That's something we've got to get

945
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: away from because guess well, everybody loves the underdog. Everybody

946
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: loves the underdog story. Average Joe's one of my favorite

947
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: underdog stories of all time in the movie Dodgeball. And

948
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: we know that's true, that really really happened, that really

949
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: actually happened. But we can't let our love of the

950
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: underdog cloud our judgment for what is the right answer.

951
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: You cannot look at me if you think that the

952
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: number three is a cool story. It's a cool story.

953
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: That owe the number three you and what a cool number.

954
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: That still doesn't mean that two plus three equals four.

955
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: That's not how that works. So we have to stop

956
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: going the roundabout way of explaining things and use common sense.

957
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: Mix that with the analytics, mix that with the eye test,

958
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: and then have a big dose of common sense. And

959
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: that's where people get upset. They get upset what you

960
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: think is common knowledge to say, oh, well, Alabama should

961
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: be in and Cincinnati shouldn't be. Wait a minute, that's

962
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: not common knowledge. It is if you've watched the games.

963
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: Is if you understand that the difference in the level

964
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: of play when you go from the American Conference and

965
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: then to the SEC. Look at the draft people. These

966
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: NFL guys are like, you know what, draft them from

967
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 1: the SEC because that's what they said to do. That's

968
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: not They look at the film they watch and they're like,

969
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: this guy is going to have a better chance to

970
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: be a better pro than this guy. Women lie, men lie,

971
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: numbers don't lie. And for the people who are really

972
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: upset the committee, please just remember back to the BCS

973
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: and the PREBCS system. Oh this is so much better.

974
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: It's like when Tim Brandon was like, you know, well

975
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: back when you know, the AP newspaper used to I

976
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: would lose my multiple champions. Oh I can't do it better.

977
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: We're not giving trophies out to everybody. Yeah, this isn't Yeah, look,

978
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: this isn't. This isn't a PTA meeting. All right. We're

979
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: not telling everybody how great their kid is, but also

980
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: how they can get a little bit better. That's not

981
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: what our job is. That's not it. But again, it's

982
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: something different, because what do people like? They like something new, fresh, different.

983
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: That's just that's how people are built. So all of

984
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: a sudden, Cincinnati, let's go to bat forum. I'm not

985
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: even gonna get and I and we just had coach

986
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: Traylor on into the UTSA argument is I'm not because

987
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: it's not an argument. It's not argument who's a more

988
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 1: stronger country US, our Norway? What? What? You know? What? Yeah?

989
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: I can't argue that. Yes, I can't argue that I'm

990
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: comparing the USA soccer team versus you know, the church. Yeah. Yeah, legitimately,

991
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 1: that's just not the soccer team. Bron started on them, sleep,

992
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: I'm with Alexi Lawless on them, start playing better. Shut up.

993
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: And play better. How are we not better? Yeah, you

994
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: know what, obviously i'd be hilarious. I don't want to

995
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: digress too much. We're gonna get josh Pin in here.

996
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: But what if in the Olympics they had football like

997
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: as a sport, but like you think a soccer. They're like,

998
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: all right, we get our guys from the USA team,

999
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: girls from USA team, and the girls had a lot

1000
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: more success than the guys. But we get our guys

1001
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: team and we have to go play, you know, like

1002
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: Germany where like that's what they do. That's legitimately their football,

1003
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: that's what they call it. Imagine if it was like

1004
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: the United States versus like, I don't know, South Korea football. Yeah,

1005
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: they're like they're like, hey, we got Lamar Jackson at cornec.

1006
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: There's not a person in South Korea that could tackle

1007
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. They wouldn't allow it. They just score me.

1008
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: If the USA put in all like a dream team

1009
00:49:55,080 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: in basketball, if they put a dream team together, I

1010
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't score. What would score in a fourth quarter fifteen

1011
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: minute quarter game? If the United States had an Olympic

1012
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: football team that they juiced up there, they're they're trying, Oh, oh,

1013
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: can you imagine, like in the second round, we've got

1014
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: America plan you know who, anybody Europe. They have to

1015
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: just put together a team in Europe and they would

1016
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: get destroyed. But see, that's how I feel about our

1017
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 1: soccer team. They're all about soccer. That's what they do,

1018
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: that's their football, that's their national pastime. Then they play

1019
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: us and we're just like yeah, but the Ravens play

1020
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: Sunday though they're like, y'all won, But the playoff rankings

1021
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: get released on Tuesday. I've always thought that'd be hilarious,

1022
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: like when ray Lewis was playing just like ray Lewis

1023
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: and Mike for some poor spirit from like Norway's team. No,

1024
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: I've done it the press, like we got Marty who

1025
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: wanted Oh god, you talk about press, you talk about press,

1026
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: talk about pressing. They put him in jail for what

1027
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: he'd do to pressing us Norway receivers. So here, we're

1028
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: gonna bring our four string quarterback in, Matthew Stafford. Come on,

1029
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: he's all right, he's all right. Hey, tell Aaron to

1030
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: get warmed up. We're gonna put our backups in, who

1031
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: are way better than anybody you ever have. But all right,

1032
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: go ahead at four dollars ninety nine donation from Dakota

1033
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: Falker and he says, Jake, my brother and I were

1034
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 1: just saying this morning we needed a little jayboy Josh

1035
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: Peate conversation the two best shows in business. Tell him.

1036
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: I said that, Hey, much love Dakota South or North.

1037
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: Much love out in the Dakotas. But now we appreciate

1038
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: a brother. Ann On that note, Dakota, you just segued

1039
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: in Josh Pete. Let's bring him in. All right, everybody

1040
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: excited to welcome from Late Kick two four seven sports

1041
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: mister Josh Pate, one of my favorite guests to have

1042
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: on here. Josh, what's up? Man? Sounds like there are

1043
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: a lot of kids in the background, That's what it

1044
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: sounds like. That's what's up. Yeah, I just wonder I

1045
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: feel like Adam Sandler and Billy Madison when they go

1046
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: on the field trip. There's just I'm just surrounded by kids,

1047
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: and I'm just waiting for Chris Farley to start eating

1048
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: all their sack lunches. But that's for another time. I

1049
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: don't know how one man can eat twelve or twenty

1050
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: five sack lunches. But speaking about sack lunches. The committee

1051
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: is kind of getting a little bit a little bit

1052
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: of heat this morning for a couple of reasons, and

1053
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't think they did too bad. But just off

1054
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: the rip, Josh, where were your thoughts on the playoff

1055
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: rankings that came out last night? Well? I didn't really

1056
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: This sounds very This sounds like the guy who wants

1057
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: to pretend to like he doesn't care. But I really

1058
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: didn't have many thoughts on it. I know that there

1059
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: were some people obviously that focused on the Michigan Michigan

1060
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: state stuff, and for my taste, I would still rather

1061
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: see Michigan State above Michigan. Look, here's my thought, and

1062
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: it's overarching. It's been several weeks long now. I used

1063
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: to be someone at the outset of this, when it

1064
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: was twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, I was very concerned about

1065
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: us going to a committee based model. I didn't care

1066
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: about going to a playoff. I was concerned about going

1067
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: to the committee based model. And my thought there was

1068
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: I didn't think these people were going to be either

1069
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,959
Speaker 1: equipped or willing to use the proper criteria. Well, here's

1070
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: where we've gotten to. We've actually gotten so far down

1071
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: the road of them using the proper criteria that I

1072
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: think we're actually circumventing competition and what should matter more.

1073
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: I used to be and have always been a guy

1074
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: who believes in the power rating model. I believe in

1075
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: having a Vegas flavor and an odds making flavor into

1076
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: how we perceive teams. You cannot go off schedule, you

1077
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: cannot merely go off the kind of metrics you go

1078
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: off of in pro sports. But now we've gotten so

1079
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: far down that road that I think sometimes we've got

1080
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: folks overthinking the very room that they built. And if

1081
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: you're looking at me, and I was in He's Lancing

1082
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and watch the game where

1083
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 1: a thirty to fourteen lead was blown, and you're telling me, well,

1084
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: that actual competition and result on the field, Oh, sure

1085
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: it matters, But I've got a set of numbers over

1086
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: here that matter more. Look, I'm all about those numbers, man,

1087
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: But there's a reason why you put the helmet on

1088
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: and you go hit people, and you catch the ball

1089
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: and you run the ball. It's called That's what the

1090
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: sport is. The sport's not played on a calculator. I agree,

1091
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I think it should be. And I

1092
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: keep using this word. It's the third time I've used

1093
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: this word this week. An amalgamation of everything. But at

1094
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 1: the end of the day, what happens on the field

1095
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: does matter. I don't know how And you talk about criterion,

1096
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: we can use this criteria, that criteria. I'm having a

1097
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: hard time finding the relationship between a criteria that rewards

1098
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: Oregon for beating Ohio State on the field, yet doesn't

1099
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: reward Michigan State even though they're coming off a loss

1100
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: for beating Michigan on the field. I don't understand how

1101
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: there is any sort of baseline or any sort of

1102
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: parameter that we can follow in any criteria. Right now,

1103
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: I'm an I test guy. I think that's a big

1104
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: part of it. Head to head to me, is the

1105
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: ultimate tiebreaker. And it seems like in every tiebreaker situation

1106
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: in the history of the world, when everything is even

1107
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: or as close to even as possible, which it will

1108
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: never be, even when we look at the college football

1109
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: playoff rankings. In my opinion, head to head is always

1110
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: the default. That's what we default to. And when you

1111
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: say going down the rabbit hole to me, Josh I

1112
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: you think that we get a little too analytical and

1113
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: take what's happening off the field any time in my

1114
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: opinion that you put in Utsa and Alabama in the

1115
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: same tier in anything, are we're debating whether a loss

1116
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: to LSU is better than a loss to a three

1117
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: and six Tulsa team. I think we've jumped to shark

1118
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: or as you said, I guess overbooked our own room.

1119
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: My question to you, Josh, and this is something we

1120
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: talked about in the monologue and me and Conor on

1121
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: opposite sides, do we just need to hold an official

1122
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: ranking until the end of the season. We can have

1123
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: our top twelve at the Jay Boy Show. You can

1124
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: have your polls, people can have their other polls. But

1125
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: in my opinion, you are in your opinion, do you

1126
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: think we should wait until the end of the season,

1127
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: or the regular season, or even later in the season

1128
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: to release some sort of official ranking. Well, I'm not

1129
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: sure what it accomplishes if you're still using the same

1130
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: metrics data criteria process. I'm not really sure that that

1131
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: saves anything more than hot air, because that's really what

1132
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: happens is you generate a lot of talk and then

1133
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: people do exactly what we're and now you talk about it.

1134
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: But if you're arriving at the same destination process wise,

1135
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it hinders or helps. Like I've

1136
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: thought about that, and I've thought about how crazy that

1137
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: last weekend would feel, because you'd have some things that

1138
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 1: you think and you'd be guessing what that committee's doing,

1139
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: but you really wouldn't know until the very end of

1140
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: the line. I just don't know that it would accomplish

1141
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 1: much of anything unless we're going down a different road,

1142
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: And that road is suggesting that when that committee puts

1143
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: stuff out right now, they are then impacted and their

1144
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: decisions are therefore impacted by the response and reaction they get.

1145
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 1: If that's the case, then you've number one, You've you've

1146
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: deluded the whole sample size to begin with. Then you've

1147
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: kind of poisoned the process to begin with. Outside of that,

1148
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: I don't really see that to be a I don't

1149
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: see that there'd be a big benefit or hindrance by

1150
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: doing it that way. Yeah, I think you know. My

1151
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: argument was, I think descent moves the conversation forward. We

1152
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: won't relitigate what we had in the monologue there, But Josh,

1153
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: we talk about criterion, and you talk about it in

1154
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: all power, all encompassing ranking. What is the perfect formula

1155
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: in your opinion, in Josh Pate's opinion, to find the

1156
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: best foreign I will say, even with all this back

1157
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: and forth and this, that and the other we see

1158
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: in the space, I think the committee has got in

1159
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: the final four right most of the time. I've never

1160
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: disagreed with them a single time. What are we seven

1161
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,479
Speaker 1: years endo? I've never disagreed with the outcome that we got,

1162
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: Although I've seen some merit in some ways, like the

1163
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: year O highest state was in over Penn State. I

1164
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: get why that rubs people the wrong way. I still

1165
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: think they made the right decision there. My perfect model

1166
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: would have to be drawn out on a grease spoort

1167
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: over about two hours. But it essentially boils down to

1168
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: identifying critical factors the same way that you would use

1169
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: them in a model to generate a future leaning point spread.

1170
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: But I want a good, healthy blend of power and

1171
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: merit power rating. If we just go by that, I've

1172
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: got Michigan ten spots higher than I do Michigan State today.

1173
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: But I can't just go off power. I can't just

1174
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: go off numbers. I've also got to blend merit in there. Look,

1175
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: people talk about eyeball test a lot. To me, there

1176
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: is room for the eyeball test. To me, eyeball test

1177
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: is just common football sense. It is common football sense

1178
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: that a one loss Alabama is better than an undefeated UTSA.

1179
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: That's common football sense. That's where eyeball test has a

1180
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: place in this conversation. But when the teams are reasonably comfarable,

1181
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: like Michigan and Michigan State, I don't even care about

1182
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: my own eyeball test, Dude, I want to care about

1183
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: that if they if they've played, I don't even care

1184
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: what I think. I'm with you. That's where I start

1185
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: to That's where I start to put that model together

1186
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: if I ran things. Josh, how about me and you

1187
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: just build a machine. You want to just weird science

1188
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,959
Speaker 1: this thing. You want to just build a machine that's

1189
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,959
Speaker 1: like half and half and we can just figure it out.

1190
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: Because because at this point, you say it's common football

1191
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: senses to not say that UTSA and Alabama are in

1192
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: the same sphere, are that they're comfarable. But yet we

1193
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: see and this is, you know, kind of the other

1194
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: side of the argument. Earlier people that are comparing them

1195
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: and putting them in the same here. But you know,

1196
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: moving on, Josh, I do want to ask you when

1197
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: you're when you're looking at this Cincinnati team, and I

1198
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: don't want to beat this horse to death, even though

1199
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: it died a long time ago. When you're looking at

1200
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: this Cincinnati team, play USF still got to play East Carolina,

1201
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: you still got to play SMU and Houston. It's looking

1202
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: like in the American Championship they don't have divisions, but

1203
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: the top two teams play. Is this Cincinnati team a

1204
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: top four team in your opinion? Power rating wise? They're not.

1205
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: I think they have an outside shot. Their problem is

1206
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: they've totally maxed out what they themselves can accomplish, which

1207
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: just means they need people to lose. I mean, that's

1208
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: what they need, and that's always been what they were

1209
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: going to need. But look, I know, I know as

1210
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: much as people out there on one side of the

1211
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: fence want to argue that this is unfair, and you know, Cincinnati,

1212
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: they're undefeated. There's nothing more they can do. It's not

1213
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: their fault. All that's true, But we're not playing tennants.

1214
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: It's not an individual sport. If we're not in a vacuum.

1215
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: Because just as much as you could tell me, well,

1216
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's done everything that they can do, it's not their

1217
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: kid's fault, it's not their coach's fault that they just

1218
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: played their schedule. That's true. But it's not Michigan's fault either.

1219
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:13,479
Speaker 1: It's not Alabama's fault either. To me, this goes way back,

1220
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: and no one ever wants to address this with me,

1221
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: or at least most people don't. The big fallacy in

1222
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: this whole thing is to pretend that everyone's playing at

1223
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: the same level. To me, the entire phrase FBS level.

1224
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: Those two words should not coincide. There is no level

1225
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: in which one hundred and thirty teams exist on an

1226
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: equal plane. That doesn't exist. But no one ever wants

1227
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: to broach the idea of creating a Chief five playoff.

1228
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: They don't want to do that, but then they want

1229
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: to get them out of shape when some committee dares

1230
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: to tell you, hey, I think a one Lostbama may

1231
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: be better than an undefeated Cincinnati. So the answer really

1232
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: to this whole problem, if you want to call it, that,

1233
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: lies in going down another road that apparently not enough

1234
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: people want to go on. So you advocate for a

1235
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: G five playoff that is separate from the poor five

1236
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: playoff that also crowns a national champion per se, absolutely

1237
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: the same way that we have a Triple A Baseball

1238
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: World Series separate from a Major League Baseball World Series.

1239
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: To me, actually, I'll tell you this. To me, there's

1240
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: a bigger gap. But I don't think you're wrong and

1241
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: the and the bottom of you. I don't think there

1242
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: is between the Cincinnati Reds and the Triple A affiliure.

1243
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: I look, Josh, I'm with you one hundred percent on that,

1244
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't realize a lot of

1245
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: it's up front too. That's really where about seventy five

1246
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: percent of it is. There's a lot of skill players

1247
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: in the Sun Belt and the American and and somebody's

1248
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: even in the Big Sky that could go play at

1249
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,959
Speaker 1: the power five level. You see transfers all the time,

1250
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean up and down, but it's up front, and

1251
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: it's the depth up front. My last question for you, Josh,

1252
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: speaking of gaps, how big is the gap in your opinion?

1253
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: I've talked about this a ton between Georgia and everybody else.

1254
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: Pointspread wise, I've got it at about a field goal

1255
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,919
Speaker 1: between them and Ohio State and Bama. Realistically, I think

1256
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: what I'm asking myself when those teams play each other,

1257
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: how wide would be get because if they played this Saturday,

1258
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: that'd be one thing. But they don't. There's no way

1259
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: they played this Saturday. What I think about Georgia is

1260
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: we've seen their best football. I believe they are peaking.

1261
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: They are playing their best football. I don't believe we've

1262
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: seen it from Bama and or Ohio State. And so

1263
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: it's like Clemson in the past. There have been Clemson

1264
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: teams sitting there losing the pit they go on to

1265
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: beat Bama in the title game. Well, if Bama played

1266
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: them right after they beat Pit, I'd feel one way.

1267
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: It's just Dabos Twinney knew how to peek at the

1268
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: right time. To me, the great unknown in the rest

1269
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: of this football season, I can really fit three teams

1270
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: in here. Do Oklahoma, Ohio State, and or Alabama have

1271
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: a different year. If they do, they can beat Georgia.

1272
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Speaker 1: If they don't, this is George's championship. Yeah. Well, to me,

1273
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: the biggest differences right now, and I know Georgia's offense

1274
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: isn't exactly you know, Elon musk electric, but they're playing

1275
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: complimentary football. That's been Alabama's biggest problem. One side of

1276
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: the ball is playing well in one game and the

1277
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: other one struggles. Oklahoma is the same way. Even though

1278
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: I love Caleb Williams and c J. Stroud as a

1279
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: young quarterback does a little bit inconsistent, especially in the

1280
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: bigger games. But now I look in a one off game,

1281
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: if you play well, Oklahoma's got the athletes that can run.

1282
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: Ohio State's got the athletes that can run, and so

1283
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: can Bama. Just look at recruiting. But Josh, always appreciate

1284
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: you hopping off my friend doing a great job over

1285
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: there at late kick. On late kick, I think maybe

1286
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: a better way to put that two four seven sports

1287
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: over there, great YouTube channel, Josh, I always appreciate it, brother,

1288
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: all right, man, appreciate it. Hey, I do gotta ask

1289
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: you hold on before you go, before you go. Craziest

1290
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: environment you've been in all season probably Penn State, but man,

1291
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: that Cotton Bowl was pretty wild with OU Texas too. Yeah, no,

1292
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,439
Speaker 1: it seems like a pretty good time. Josh, appreciate it, brother,

1293
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: all right, man, Next year I want to go on

1294
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: the campus tour like Pate's going on. You know he

1295
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: goes to one each week. You know I never go

1296
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: in the ECU Championship doing that. We need to start

1297
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: doing that next week. We may unveil that soon. Just

1298
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: take it. Just how cool would that be? Just get

1299
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: like a we got the ability to go remote. We

1300
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: gotta get a just a six van tour bus could

1301
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: really just roll and try and roll and stone this thing.

1302
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: Why not? Yeah, I'm with the bus, stay away from

1303
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: You're with the bus. You're at the bottom with the

1304
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: bus too, the US bus, not the gusts. Yeah, he

1305
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: comes like the mystery machine. Where's some mysteries would have

1306
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: got away with it? If it won't from Metal and

1307
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: Cincinnati either? But what do ya think about the group

1308
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: of five playoffs? Real quick? I'm just I see I

1309
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: see what he's saying. I see what he's saying. But

1310
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: when you expand the playoff, I think you're helping the

1311
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: group of five a little bit as well. You know,

1312
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: you see a UTSA side in there. If it was

1313
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: the twelve team playoff, which is a totally different argument

1314
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: than what we're having now. I just think if if

1315
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: we're going to have a group of five playoff. You're

1316
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: basically nixing any chance for the top level group of

1317
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: five team to break into what should be an eight

1318
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: to twelve team playoff to be able to try and

1319
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: break that class. Some of those teams are moving to

1320
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: Power five conferences. You know a college talent States Borough

1321
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: where it was fun to watch Georgia's Southern wins championship,

1322
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: which yep, which means like teams like Sam Houston and

1323
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: James Madison will move up. James Madison is already in

1324
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: our sun Belt, right, yeah, yeah, some belt you saw

1325
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: where in Middle Tennessee decided they wanted to stay in

1326
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,919
Speaker 1: Conference USA two, which I thought was was a big

1327
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: move because that takes them forgetting the other team that

1328
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 1: was going to leave with them. But the conference they

1329
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: were going to said they would take both of them,

1330
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: not one of them. So I think that kind of

1331
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: nixed another Marshall. Maybe Marshall wasn't Marshall. Marshall's going to the

1332
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 1: the sun Belt, right, Yeah, that's right. Maybe it was.

1333
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: Maybe it was I feel up yeah, yeah, I think

1334
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: I think that adds some some comfort to it, you know,

1335
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: I think it had some comfort to it for the

1336
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,479
Speaker 1: group of five. But I'm gonna get to the boost

1337
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: club in a second. We have odds on who wants

1338
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: who's going to make the playoff, and I want to

1339
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: get to these from Fandel Cone's gonna throw the graphic

1340
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: up there. Let's get graphic Cone, Let's get really graphic.

1341
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: All right? What underdog has the best chance to make

1342
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: the playoff? Because if you look at these numbers, here

1343
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: here we go. So you've got for audio, You've got

1344
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: Georgia minus twenty four hundred to make the college football Playoff,

1345
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: not win the Natty, but make the Callooba Playoff. George's

1346
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: minus twenty four hundred. Ohio State is minus one eighty,

1347
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: Oklahoma is minus one seventy five, Alabama is minus one ten.

1348
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: Those are the teams that are in the in the

1349
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: minus the teams that are expected the underdogs to make it.

1350
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: Oregon plus two twenty five, Cincinnati plus three fifty, Michigan

1351
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: plus three fifty, Michigan State plus eleven eighty. I don't

1352
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: think it'd be a bad idea to sprinkle a little

1353
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: bit on there. But out of all these teams, if

1354
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: I had to pick one of these teams of the

1355
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: four to make it. I think Oregon is the one

1356
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: I'd pick. I think that's why they're the first plus

1357
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: number to make it in because I think even though

1358
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: they lost for Dell Junior, if they survive Utah, they'll

1359
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: survive the Pac twelve Championship and that one loss will

1360
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: get them in. Now, when we're looking at this, understand

1361
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: that the oddsmakers are telling you, at least in my opinion,

1362
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: how good they think each conference is. George is a

1363
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: moot point because they're in a few We all feel

1364
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: like they're the number one team in the country and

1365
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: they have to lose twice. Ohio State being at one

1366
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: eighty tells you that they think Ohio State has the

1367
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: best chance out of Ohio State and Oregon and Michigan

1368
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: and Michigan State to win out in the Big Ten

1369
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: and win the Big Ten Championship, which to me, to

1370
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: me was surprising. I thought you would see Oregon where

1371
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: Ohio State is because they play into the Pac twelve.

1372
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: I think it also tells you how much more the

1373
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: committee favors Ohio State than they do Oregon. Yet Oregon,

1374
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: as they should be, is the number three seed and

1375
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: Ohio State is the four. These are backwards to where

1376
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: they have the rankings. If you really look outside of Georgia,

1377
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: they're kind of backwards. And then you look at them

1378
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: how much they respect the Big twelve. It's obviously not

1379
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: a lot because they have Oklahoma, who has to win

1380
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: out in my opinion, to get in winning out right

1381
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: underneath Ohio State. And then they're telling you that they

1382
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: think there is a lot better chance of Ohio State

1383
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma winning out than there is of Alabama beating Georgia.

1384
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: So a lot to digest here. If I had to

1385
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: pick one of the underdogs, give me Oregon plus two

1386
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: twenty five for the simple point that they play in

1387
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve. Keep in mind, it's not the CFP

1388
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: who's you know, it's not the committee. No, no, no, no,

1389
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It's going. It's going in a

1390
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: different different path to where their rankings are. But this

1391
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. I don't think they're super far off. Now.

1392
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: I think Oklahoma is going to lose a game. I

1393
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: think we all think Oklahoma. But if they had, you

1394
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: don't blame had they ranked it like this, Had they

1395
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,600
Speaker 1: ranked it like this, everyone would have had even a

1396
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 1: bigger problem than how they ranked it yesterday. Right, sure,

1397
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 1: So I mean again, these aren't their rankings or their odds.

1398
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: But still that's why they know they can't go out

1399
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: on a limb yet and say we think this is

1400
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: what's going to happen throughout the season out of these underdogs. Mind,

1401
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: who would you pick Cincinnati out of all of all

1402
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: of them? Yeah? I would agree with you with Oregon.

1403
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: But I think the best bet based off these odds

1404
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: is to put a little bit of money on Michigan State.

1405
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: Why not? I mean why we see, we see where

1406
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: the narrative is going. Yeah, yeah, But my biggest thing, Well,

1407
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: when I'm looking and I'm trying to decide where to

1408
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 1: put money on, you have to weigh what's the most

1409
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: likely outcome with what is the best bet? I think

1410
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: that is that that is that's the happy medium to me.

1411
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 1: That's where Oregon fits in. I think you get your

1412
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: plus two twenty five, you get your money off of it,

1413
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: and there's a reasonable chance of that happening. That Utah

1414
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: game worries me, though, and we've been talking about that

1415
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 1: since they beat Ohio State. We've been talking about that

1416
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: Oregon Utah game since they beat Ohio State and then

1417
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: you lose for Delgia. Well, I was saying about Cincinnati.

1418
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: We see the narrative and where they want Cincinnati. He

1419
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,480
Speaker 1: turned on ESPN Game bays as Cincinnati. They want Cincinnati

1420
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: in Oh they want Cincinnati, and you can tell, you

1421
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: can feel it, you can see it. And just look

1422
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: at Cincinnati's rest of the schedule. It's nobody. I don't know.

1423
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: I don't know SMU, he's Carolina, Eddiast Carolina. Where Cincinnati

1424
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: will be favored and SMU game Sure, right, I here

1425
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: a home a Houston game, but they'll probably be favored.

1426
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: I'm right though, I understand, I understand what they've been playing.

1427
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: For sure, they play like they've been playing. They may

1428
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: those two or three. You feel better if Cincinnati made

1429
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: the playoff having beaten UH East Carolina on the road,

1430
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: South Florida on the road, SMU at home, and Houston

1431
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: at least you could feel better. You would feel better

1432
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: about it, right telling you that's how it's about to

1433
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: go down. Okay, all right, they're playing terrible and still

1434
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: beating these teams. So if they start playing good still,

1435
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: Oklahoma still bet on it. Blaine, what do you want wings?

1436
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: By the way, Cone said he tasted a few drops

1437
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: to the Hot Saucy game to blatantly gave up some

1438
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: of the ghost pepper on the case. Last time I

1439
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: was fighting, I was fighting demons for a week. He

1440
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: was like Keanu Reeves and that one movie. Or if

1441
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 1: he was having a Constantini said he was having to

1442
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: stare cats in the eyes. That's never to try and

1443
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 1: figure out to make a bet? What do you want

1444
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,560
Speaker 1: to make a bet on the Cincinnati goes undefeated? Or

1445
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: you think, well, I'm saying that I think Cincinnati loses

1446
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: a game. I think they lose a game. You're saying

1447
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: you don't think they will. No, I don't. Okay, well

1448
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: let's put let's let's do it. Then what do you

1449
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: want to bet? You want to sit in the big

1450
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: boy chair for a show? No? I like I like

1451
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: my chair. You want to sit and you want to

1452
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: sit in the chair. No, what do you want to

1453
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: bet on? What do you want to bet on it?

1454
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 1: What do you want to bet? You want to eat something?

1455
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: This is tough? Do you want? What? What do you

1456
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: You brought it up so I feel like, what do

1457
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: you want to bet? How about this? How about if

1458
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: I if Cincinnati loses a game regular season or to

1459
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: Houston in the conference championship. You you trying to think

1460
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 1: of the best thing. Here, you have to you have

1461
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: to here we go. You have to drink during the

1462
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 1: show throughout the show. Listen, listen, listen. You have to

1463
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: drink a whole thing of Wickles pickles juice during the show. No,

1464
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: why not drink anyway? You won't drink a whole thing

1465
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: of pickle juice? No, I won't. Well you might. There's

1466
01:11:55,400 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: a football field, right fer. Yeah, that's fine, but it's

1467
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: always it's gonna be worse or something like. I don't

1468
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: want to hit you with this gonna be baseball. Rather,

1469
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: I'd rather get pushed in the trash can and get hit.

1470
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 1: Guess what there it is. Guess what We dumb blade

1471
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: in the trash can. That funny, we get to dumb

1472
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: blade in the trash can. He loses. There you go,

1473
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: he said himself. Deal deal. This is like I've never

1474
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: deals done. More cool with losing a bed. The deal

1475
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: is done. So you get a dump me in a

1476
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 1: trash game. That's fine. Yeah, same guys for you, that's fine,

1477
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: that's fine, kayd. I can't wait to watch you lose

1478
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: another one. All right, so it's time to get to

1479
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: our picks. I told you the MAC last night declared

1480
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: war on us. What guess what? Guess what we accept?

1481
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: We accept? And hey, before we get in the picks,

1482
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: one thing, Garth, I did see your donation earlier. It

1483
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,799
Speaker 1: did click off our screen. So I appreciate. I appreciate

1484
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: your donation. And if you come back next show, I

1485
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: ask a question, we'll get it out for sure. All right, son,

1486
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 1: you want, You're gonna get it tonight. Here's what I got.

1487
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: Give me Central Michigan to chip a WS minus two

1488
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: and a half at home. Come through for me, Pimbleton,

1489
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 1: after what you did to my brother, Bowling Green plus

1490
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 1: ten and a half. Don't get thrown out of Toledo

1491
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: at home, Bowling Green. You want to talk about a

1492
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: team that's overachieved. Bowling Green's overachieved. Man coming into the year.

1493
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: They played Tennessee tough at the beginning of the year,

1494
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: and Tennessee didn't cover plus ten and a half. Just

1495
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: play good Northern Illinois plus two and a half at home.

1496
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: We're overlapping again. This is a recipe for now. It's

1497
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: not Cone believing it believe in it man. After last night,

1498
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: the spirit was broken. So let me just recap. My

1499
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: spirit was awoken because we've been dominated, we've been dominating Saturday.

1500
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: But but what they did to us last night is unforgivable.

1501
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 1: Already wrote a letter, already already wrote a letter to

1502
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 1: the commissioner. So Central Michigan minus two and a half

1503
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: Bowling Green plus ten and a half, Norm Illinois plus

1504
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: two and a half Lane Kiffin, what do you got?

1505
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm disgusted, go ahead, disgusted with betting these games. I'm

1506
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: just Mac games. Blane hates betting games because down is up,

1507
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,799
Speaker 1: left is right, like it just it doesn't make sense.

1508
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: There's nothing you can go find these games. It go

1509
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: and strategize these games to construst me. I'm turning over

1510
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 1: every rock on the ground, every little thing I'm diving,

1511
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: and I'm finding is the Mac the disturbance in the force.

1512
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: I think it is God. We have wet is because

1513
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: there's one disturbance. There's no there's no pattern, there's no

1514
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 1: strategical thing behind it. You just watch it and they're

1515
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: just out there running around, running around. So you know

1516
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: what I'm never gonna do again in a matching game.

1517
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna do con. I'm never gonna take

1518
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: it under again. I don't believe you did that. I

1519
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: took the under yesterday, and of course yesterday, of course

1520
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 1: I took the under. And guess what, well, hey, not

1521
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: one kick return, guys, not one? What one? Poor Blaine?

1522
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 1: What the Max special teams have done to him? Pimbleton

1523
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: put him on front street last week with two punt returns,

1524
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: including an absolute spinal cord disintegrator right before halftime nine

1525
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: yard touch on return to score thirty five points at

1526
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 1: half when he had the under thirty four and a half.

1527
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 1: And then last night we have dueling kickoff returns for touchdowns.

1528
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 1: Akron runs one back, Western Michigin runs one back and

1529
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: the overhead just discussed in I don't stop there. Let's

1530
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: go to the other bed. Let's go to the Buffalo

1531
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: TTP twenty three in the hot I guess what happens

1532
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: in the second quarter of the game, starting quarterback gets

1533
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 1: her Van Trees the starting quarterback and at that point

1534
01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: Buffalo was literally had a little playbook that says hike

1535
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: it and run right. Yeah, they put the back. It

1536
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,879
Speaker 1: was like snap run right. But anyways, look but Today's

1537
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 1: the day we get back on track with the MAC.

1538
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: You get back to Yeah, you've been pretty hot on

1539
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: the mat week to last night. We went just thinks

1540
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 1: getting paid. If the MAC is the only problem I have,

1541
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: the good stuff's happening, boys, I probably I've been in

1542
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: the negative one week out of the se huh. Non,

1543
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 1: you get to sit there and watch watch, watch perfection,

1544
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: You watch your own if you had to me in

1545
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: the house and listen and watch what has happened to

1546
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 1: this man over early in the week the past two weeks.

1547
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: There's only I've known in his whole life. There are

1548
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 1: no good beats. There's only one thing that's been worse

1549
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: than this last week of betting maction and yesterday. I

1550
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: have a feeling here and it's called eating the hottest

1551
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 1: wings ever be invented. Because you're no, I'm taking the

1552
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 1: O in the Toledo Bowling Green Game. It's forty nine

1553
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 1: and a half right. It's forty nine and a half right,

1554
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: and so I will feel so much better if I

1555
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 1: move this lose this bet with a unders, I'm taking

1556
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: out and why not double up crane? Why not double

1557
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: it up right? Start making it over in the first

1558
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: half and twenty five and a half. You go to

1559
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: you go to your parents room, and you left that mattress. Uf.

1560
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 1: You grab that twenty dollars. You grab that twenty dollars

1561
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: and you meet me here in the arena to watch

1562
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: some act a bear. Alright, my son friend last night,

1563
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: man not a good strategy. We were doubling up. We

1564
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: all went down, but not tonight. Okay. Scottie Leffler was

1565
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: my quarterback coach at Michigan. You know he's gonna dial

1566
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: up tonight at speed Break Detroit right side three hundred bucks.

1567
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: Why stick age through a fifty four x slush He

1568
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: has a ten and a half point head start. Let's

1569
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: cover that, Scottie, yell, Let's cover that bowling green ten

1570
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 1: and a half at homeis plus two and a half.

1571
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go. You want to meet me and

1572
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 1: Rosbo to watch the games. I'm gonna differ with the

1573
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: last one. I want the Central Michigan. Yes, I'll meet you.

1574
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 1: Yeah he did. He's like, oh, hell no, it's something,

1575
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: but no central under seventy five and a half. No,

1576
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: it's seventy five and a half. And you know what,

1577
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 1: if it makes sense to take the over because they've

1578
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: been scored a lot of points. Yeah, then I'll definitely

1579
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: take under whatever makes sense. I don't care about seventy

1580
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 1: five and a half points. It's a lot. But but look,

1581
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: here's the thing with them scored forty five thirty State

1582
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: scored thirty one points in the second quarter. You know,

1583
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: sometimes you know what? You know what? I think, it's

1584
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: already been said. I think I think sometimes like the

1585
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: guys in Vegas, to find out like the point spreads

1586
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: for the mac It's like when Leonidas had to climb

1587
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 1: up the hill to talk to the Carnea or see

1588
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: if he could go to war during the Carnea. I think,

1589
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: like the Vegas guys, I'll get together and climb up

1590
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 1: a mountain to consult the oracle on what's going to

1591
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 1: happen between the Central Michigan. I thought we were combating

1592
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: that with Blaine Patine. Well, listen, I feel like I'm

1593
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 1: fighting Fantos every Tuesday. If that doesn't make the Jay

1594
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 1: boy one, for sure, oh for sure it will. But

1595
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to the Booster Club and let's

1596
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: leave here. All right. We got the question from Garth

1597
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: casting the donation Earthier one. He says, it's the maximum

1598
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: scholarship still eighty five, or with all these COVID years

1599
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: that they make, the MAXI still eighty five. It's still

1600
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 1: eighty five. You can only have eighty five on scholarship.

1601
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 1: But what they what they change was the intake rule,

1602
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: the amount you can take scholarship wise per year. So

1603
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: it's still eighty five. You still got to get to

1604
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 1: that eighty five number, just because they added more guys

1605
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: for you to sign during the season. And guys, that

1606
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that everybody's gonna sign thirty two guys. Everybody's

1607
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 1: rosters different, the circumstances are different. You got to play

1608
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: with the numbers, but it's still at an eighty five limit.

1609
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: Now there's just a higher limit on the amount you

1610
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: can take per year. So think about it as a job.

1611
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 1: If you were making two hundred thousand dollars with this provision,

1612
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 1: you would still be making one hundred thousand dollars. They

1613
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: would just pay you, you know, more of it. I

1614
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 1: guess purty year. I don't know the best way to

1615
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 1: explain it. But at the end of the day, you

1616
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: get eighty five scholarships, but you can sign thirty two

1617
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: weeks okay, I have a couple of things here. When

1618
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 1: we go back to the bed, I got a couple

1619
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: of bet things here, all right. Eric says he has

1620
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: to drink a gallon of milk during the show. If

1621
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: it's two percent. I'm straight though, you listen, don't do that.

1622
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 1: He he loves the milk. Don't bail him out, Eric,

1623
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: get killed, all right? All right? Nate Kitchen says he

1624
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 1: has to get tackled by Jordan Davis. No, I don't

1625
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 1: want him to die. He's my brother, yeah, mister potato head.

1626
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 1: All right, So, and this one is understandable. This is

1627
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 1: actually one of our challenges in my fantasy league and

1628
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,799
Speaker 1: a couple of my buddies fantasy. It's a waff House challenge.

1629
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: Twenty four hours in waff House, or the hour taken

1630
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: off of each waffle eating God. That seems like a

1631
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: lot of work. There is a waffle house right up

1632
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: the street, though, But that's not good enough. I want

1633
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 1: I don't want Pitt Jake just wants to see me burn. No,

1634
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: you know, I want something that will it hurt a

1635
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: little bit maybe, but not enough to leave a mark,

1636
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: you know where. I like upt him in the trash can.

1637
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 1: It's very metaphorical to me. What else anything else? Look

1638
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 1: at this man said put me in the dunkin booth.

1639
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go swimming after you were wrong.

1640
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: You crazy as hell. Look hold on, like you better

1641
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: get ready for it too. I'm not little Okay, Look,

1642
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: you better be the biggest SMU and Houston fan possible

1643
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: and East Carolina and USF. You're sleeping on the bullets.

1644
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: There's not a bullet South Florida playoff team in the playoffs,

1645
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: you sef. Come on, man, they beat them, We're good.

1646
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 1: Put him in there. No, I never said that. What

1647
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: are you talking about? You? I'm just saying, like we're

1648
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: debating on whether or not to put this team the playoff,

1649
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: and look at the six teams we just railed off

1650
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,560
Speaker 1: to whether they're gonna win or not. Well, you know,

1651
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it is what it is.

1652
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 1: But you're gonna lose the bet. Like key brainstorming, Eric,

1653
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: I like where you come from with the milk, But

1654
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 1: that's a bailout. I mean this dude, I mean, he's

1655
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: could be sponsored by Barber's, which if you like milk,

1656
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: I love Barber's. You know it's actually pretty good milk,

1657
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,759
Speaker 1: especially the chocolate milks. Someone says, that's to fight Nick Saban.

1658
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 1: No what you've seen that coverage I'm not doing. Can

1659
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 1: we get them on? Can we get them on? Coach, coach,

1660
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: get them on? Loser has to wear a helmet during

1661
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: the show for a week. That's actually hilarious and we

1662
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 1: can do that. Put that one makes the finalist. That

1663
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: one who suggested that m John Addison, John Addison, you

1664
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 1: dirty dog, but all right, great show guys. Shout out

1665
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: to the Booster Club. Make sure you subscribe to the

1666
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 1: Volume YouTube channel. Hit the notification button, hit the like button,

1667
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 1: check out everything. I will tweet out the bets Mac.

1668
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: We're coming for you man. You want to declare war,

1669
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 1: You want to declare war, we accept. Not only do

1670
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: we accept, we declare war on you back. How about

1671
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: that we declare war on the MAC and we're coming

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Speaker 1: for you tonight. Could we be hanging out in roswell

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Speaker 1: as friends, bet buddies? Who knows? Could happen? Go grab

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Speaker 1: a cold soda? Maybe three, who knows. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys as usual. Shout out. We got our wickles. Pickle

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Speaker 1: the week tomorrow and boy do we have a good one.

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Speaker 1: And I know this is free pub, but look, you've

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Speaker 1: turned on a lot of people to Wickles. Guys. If

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Speaker 1: you like pickles and you haven't had wickles, you really

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Speaker 1: don't understand pickles. You know nothing about pickles. But now,

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Speaker 1: but now you go to at Wickles Pickles on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: Wickles pickles dot com. Get your life changed, get your

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Speaker 1: life changed. Pickle better, pickle better. And that's what we

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Speaker 1: do here, all right. Appreciate you guys, And like Cincinnati's

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Speaker 1: undefeated record, over the next three weeks, somebody's beating them.

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Speaker 1: We're going, going gone. The Jaboys Show is produced by

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Speaker 1: David Cone, Associate producer Blaine Crane, audio engineer face on Sharif,

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Speaker 1: Executive producers Jake Crane, Vince Thompson, Steve Chamberlain, and David Cone.

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Speaker 1: pm when The Water Cooler with the Jabe Boys Show. Yeah,

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