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Speaker 1: and a big welcome to the Red Sea. Here on
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage. Here is hoping that that you're
Speaker 1: week has somehow, some way resembled that of Matthew Stafford's week.
Speaker 1: Actually make that Frat Stafford wolf as Frat Stafford was
Speaker 1: trending on Twitter. You know you're having a good week
Speaker 1: when you have your own Moniker trending. And when then
Speaker 1: Tom Brady weighs in because you know he's been there
Speaker 1: and done that over indulging at a Super Bowl parade
Speaker 1: when TB twelve tweets out, hey, matt mix in a water.
Speaker 1: Trust me, you know you're feeling pretty good. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: debauchery of it all, Paula, you've got to be kidding me,
Speaker 1: right at some point in time, please, will you just
Speaker 1: put it down, walk away from it, don't walk away
Speaker 1: from people that are actually falling around you. Just actually
Speaker 1: put the bottle down and walk away yourself. Paul I
Speaker 1: didn't see though that Matthew Stafford needed any help walking
Speaker 1: away like Tom Brady did at the tree end of
Speaker 1: the parade a year ago. And Wolf, trust me, you
Speaker 1: will get to talk here in a minute. But I
Speaker 1: have a thought I would like to start with. So,
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champion, as we know now resides in
Speaker 1: the NFC best and it's up to the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: more than ever right now this upcoming season. And here's
Speaker 1: where you need to follow me, because if we reverse
Speaker 1: engineer the NFC from the NFC Championship game back the Niners,
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, they're reading the reset button with
Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback Trey Lance, Jimmy G. The G stands
Speaker 1: for gone. He's already said goodbye. So the Niners they're
Speaker 1: out Green Bay already nearly fifty million over the cap.
Speaker 1: Reports everywhere that Aaron Rodgers is gone. Maybe in Denver,
Speaker 1: who knows either way. The Packers they're out. Nobody and
Speaker 1: I mean nobody trust the Cowboys, right, doesn't matter. If
Speaker 1: they have doesn't matter. If they have the most talented roster,
Speaker 1: which they might have had this year, doesn't matter. They
Speaker 1: can't get out of their own way. They're their own
Speaker 1: worst enemy. They're the only opponent really on their own schedule.
Speaker 1: They're out the box, just lost Tom Brady. So enough said,
Speaker 1: they're done. And the Seahawks defense, if you want to
Speaker 1: go that route, some sort of resurrection in Seattle behind
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, who, by the way, probably really does want out, well,
Speaker 1: guess what. The Seahawks defense is every bit that bad
Speaker 1: at every level of that defense. So that leaves Ron Wilfley.
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals has the only viable threat to save
Speaker 1: the NFC. Stand between the Rams in La repeating and
Speaker 1: where would that happen? That would happen in your own building,
Speaker 1: and that's how it gets worse. So the time is now,
Speaker 1: the urgency is real. The Cardinals have to step up
Speaker 1: and stand between the Rams as a repeat NFC champ. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, Paul, The best thing I think you
Speaker 1: said right there is just Jimmy G. The G stands
Speaker 1: for gone. That's what you pulled out of that that
Speaker 1: rambled right there. That to me was, Hey, listen, you
Speaker 1: know what. It is a year to year proposition. This
Speaker 1: is this is the one thing that we know about
Speaker 1: the National Football League when you start, when you start
Speaker 1: trying to carry over one year to the next year,
Speaker 1: I think that is a dangerous, dangerous proposition. You just
Speaker 1: look at what happened to the Arizona Cardinals this year.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, unbelievable. Seven and oh of course ten
Speaker 1: and two. It's the ten and two number that bothers
Speaker 1: me the most, Paul. I mean, that's twelve games, Paul,
Speaker 1: that is that is that's three months of football right there,
Speaker 1: and they were the best team in the NFL by
Speaker 1: way of example. That's what I mean by it being
Speaker 1: a year to year proposition. You just don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen from one year to the next it's
Speaker 1: this is the National Football League, and this is one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why it is as popular as it is,
Speaker 1: because you truly can go from worst to first and
Speaker 1: first to worst. You know what, you said it and
Speaker 1: I asked it. It's gonna be a question to Sean
Speaker 1: Jefferson coming up. I buried the lead. Here we are
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.
Speaker 1: We are Santan Ford and our special guest tonight is
Speaker 1: Cardinals receivers coach Sean Jefferson, and we're gonna ask him
Speaker 1: those two words, what happened. So we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: this season, the way this season finished, his thoughts on that.
Speaker 1: We're obviously going to get his thoughts on his son,
Speaker 1: Van Jefferson, Rams receiver who wins the Lombardi and had
Speaker 1: a baby on the same day Super Bowl Sunday. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna get day. We're gonna get that probably the
Speaker 1: best day in the history of the Jefferson family. Okay,
Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about all that as it
Speaker 1: went from La and the Rams winning, and then the
Speaker 1: very next day you probably saw they had the handoff.
Speaker 1: They handed off the football the Rams Super Bowl Committee
Speaker 1: in LA handed off to Michael Bidwell, Doug Doocy, the governor,
Speaker 1: and Larry Fitzgerald. Right, so boom, Arizona is on the
Speaker 1: clock for Super Bowl fifty seven. It be February twelve,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. But before we get there, let's talk
Speaker 1: about Super Bowl fifty six. And that's exactly what Drew
Speaker 1: Stanton was doing on the Red Sea Report with our
Speaker 1: Craig Grigolou. And we all know what it came down
Speaker 1: to that final drive. Matthew Stafford a Cooper Cop and
Speaker 1: here's Drew Stanton, the former Cardinals quarterback, just on the
Speaker 1: receiver that he is Cooper Cup. Everyone knows they're trying
Speaker 1: to throw it to him, right Like. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's not like he's some like well kept secret around
Speaker 1: what's going on. But because he has the freedom and
Speaker 1: these option routes, he's always going to make the right choice.
Speaker 1: He's always going to be at the right depth of
Speaker 1: where he needs to be. He's always going to do
Speaker 1: all these things. And he's unselfish. He's not one of
Speaker 1: those guys that sitting there worried about it because he
Speaker 1: knows when his plays come he's going to make the
Speaker 1: most of it. The final drive, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you could just see him start building momentum and building momentum,
Speaker 1: and you know, much like we saw with Larry the
Speaker 1: course of his career. Here you get the ball in
Speaker 1: his hands and everybody else there's this belief system that
Speaker 1: just elevates of everybody on the team because of it.
Speaker 1: And then you go score, and then you flip it
Speaker 1: over and say, all right, all right, Aaron, go win
Speaker 1: the game for us. There you go. Drew stan on
Speaker 1: the Red Sea Report he mentioned Larry. Would Larry have
Speaker 1: to say, didn't Larry tweet out something onlines of you know,
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup props, I have memories, you have the hardware, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what you know? That would yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be a good day for Cooper Cup right there if
Speaker 1: you got a text for or tweet from Larry. Of course. Paul,
Speaker 1: you know though, I just want to say this, Um,
Speaker 1: it really wasn't Cooper Cup to me, that really was
Speaker 1: a story of this game for the Rams. For me,
Speaker 1: it was Matthew Stafford. It was Stafford Bally. I mean,
Speaker 1: he did it, Paul, he did it. The narrative surrounding
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is dead. The fact that he's not a
Speaker 1: big game quarterback, the fact that he didn't handle pressure
Speaker 1: pack situations very well. That narrative is dead. And think
Speaker 1: of it. This game not only came down to a
Speaker 1: fifteen play seventy nine yard drive would just over six
Speaker 1: minutes ago that resulted in that one yard touchdown pass
Speaker 1: two Cooper Cup to win the game when it mattered
Speaker 1: the most. The fact that it came down to that,
Speaker 1: and that Matthew Stafford delivered that right there, Paul, that
Speaker 1: is the definition of killing a narrative. And you know what,
Speaker 1: he completed all four passes he threw to Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: on that game winning drive. Think about it. They didn't
Speaker 1: have OBJ on the field, they didn't have Tyler Higbee,
Speaker 1: obviously Number eighteen can catch. They had a lot of nobodies.
Speaker 1: And he's still you're right, got it done. Although I
Speaker 1: gotta say, I mean, Cincinnati, when you got the ball
Speaker 1: back in the final drive and it's third and one
Speaker 1: with a Super Bowl on the line, and you're giving
Speaker 1: it to p Ryan, and I mean, run it anywhere
Speaker 1: except in the vicinity of Aaron Donald. And what does
Speaker 1: he do. He runs right into Aaron Donald's gap, and
Speaker 1: then on fourth and one they get in the gun,
Speaker 1: and it's so predictable because now Aaron Donald doesn't have
Speaker 1: to worry about the run and only does his pin
Speaker 1: his ears back and boom, instant lead. He's into the map. Polay, Honestly, though,
Speaker 1: I thought Super Bowl fifty six the fulcrum of the
Speaker 1: football game. The turning point of the game happened when
Speaker 1: the Bengal went ahead and took a shot at Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald early in the third quarter. I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, when he jack Joe Burrow out of bounds
Speaker 1: right there, Paul, and suddenly everyone got around him and
Speaker 1: they were jacking Aaron Donald in the face. They awoke
Speaker 1: the sleeping giant. What did your teammates always tell you
Speaker 1: about Lawrence Taylor? Hey, run him alone, leave him alone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: suddenly the Rams had six sacks. They went from one
Speaker 1: sack to six sacks in a blink of an eye.
Speaker 1: By the way, a couple of quick thoughts, because we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk receiving next. Was Sean Jefferson, the Cardinal's receivers coach.
Speaker 1: You're talking about Cooper cup who had no college offers
Speaker 1: coming out of High school. You're talking about Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1: When throwing a cup in this postseason, his passer rating
Speaker 1: was one forty three point eight. That's the best for
Speaker 1: any quarterback targeting a single receiver in the past five postseasons.
Speaker 1: Think about that when we come back. Cardinals receivers coach
Speaker 1: Shawn Jefferson on the big red rage presented by Santa
Speaker 1: and ford In Gilbert blushed out of the pipe but
Speaker 1: of the right Nun throws back across the middle and
Speaker 1: it's caught in the back of the end zone by
Speaker 1: Hopkins and he got his feet down for the touchdown.
Speaker 1: Quick for over the middle, Hopkins has a catch of
Speaker 1: the tent, turns to his left at the five. He
Speaker 1: hits painter touched down DeAndre Hopkins throws left in the enzl.
Speaker 1: Hopkins us there sliding cats on the tockdown side arms
Speaker 1: it over the little coper a touchdown by DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1: Stuffs up loops and back of the enzel quite open
Speaker 1: his Hopkins and a touchdown off by Hopkins. Hit the tent,
Speaker 1: slips a tackle, runs left to the five into the
Speaker 1: end zone for the touchdown. Throws a bait left side
Speaker 1: of the end zone and in his cart for a
Speaker 1: touchdown by thee hop d Hop fought it looks right,
Speaker 1: throws a deep ball right side in the end zone,
Speaker 1: pen it's caught, hits a touchdown, touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. All right,
Speaker 1: gee hop from Kyler. One of the most potent lethal
Speaker 1: combos in the NFL. And we saw this season what
Speaker 1: the Cardinals offense looked like with and without DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1: As we have a nodding head here in studio and
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to all that. But the NFL season
Speaker 1: ended with another combo, Matthew Stafford to Cooper Cup and
Speaker 1: then one final route, a go route, a nine route
Speaker 1: run by Rams receiver Van Jefferson from the field all
Speaker 1: the way to the hospital in LA and the delivery room.
Speaker 1: And a guy who had the front row seat is
Speaker 1: a guy who Van Jefferson. We heard on NFL films
Speaker 1: call him Pops, And I'm guessing we can output the
Speaker 1: word proud in front of Pops. And you're not eating again.
Speaker 1: Sean Jefferson, Cardinals wide receiver coach, is our guest. Just
Speaker 1: tell us about the last week or so and especially
Speaker 1: the aftermath of Super Bowl fifty six. Coach Well I
Speaker 1: was just an unbelievable week for the whole family, leaning
Speaker 1: up to that Super Bowl and just spending a week
Speaker 1: my son just talking about the game, his preparation and
Speaker 1: mindset in the game, and just knowing that, you know,
Speaker 1: his wife is pregnant, you know, expecting the baby maybe
Speaker 1: two weeks the next two weeks or something. So we
Speaker 1: get into the stadium on Sunday, and you know, we
Speaker 1: take our seats and I'm on pins and needles because
Speaker 1: I'm like, I really want my son to get this ring, right.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I meet myself. I played
Speaker 1: in two Super Bowls lost POFU. So I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: third times in charm you gotta get this ring. Man.
Speaker 1: I come on, I'm rooting for you. Gotta get a
Speaker 1: championship in the Jeffson family. So it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It was awesome. The game started off off off well,
Speaker 1: they scored, and thanks for going well. And then um,
Speaker 1: I'm there sitting by his wife and and and uh
Speaker 1: and she said before the game, someone had interviewed her.
Speaker 1: Her name is Samaria, and she said, loosely, I'm quoting,
Speaker 1: I'm forty weeks pregnant. I'm not missing the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: She was hell then on attending, right, yeah, she was,
Speaker 1: she was, and uh yeah, she definitely attended. And uh
Speaker 1: and so we're sitting there and game's going good and
Speaker 1: and I hear this kind of loud grunt and I'm
Speaker 1: like I look over it, and he's like, I gotta go.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my goodness. So me and my wife
Speaker 1: were football junkies, right. So it's me and my wife,
Speaker 1: my youngest daughter, and my sister, who's a nurse from
Speaker 1: Jacksonville was all to the game. And uh. I looked
Speaker 1: up to my wife was like, hey, um, I probably
Speaker 1: need to go with us. He was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: I'm not missing this game. Like, oh my goodness. So
Speaker 1: my youngest daughter and my sister had to take take
Speaker 1: her out, but she left on a stretcher, right yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the m Yeah, the EMC they came and got her
Speaker 1: and and uh and from there, things and things was
Speaker 1: happening fast. It was snowballing and everything and uh and
Speaker 1: uh just watching the game and just watching them come
Speaker 1: back into fashion and win that game. It was just
Speaker 1: social real at that moment. I mean when when they
Speaker 1: won that game, I literally sat there and like I
Speaker 1: can't believe this just happened. My son just got a
Speaker 1: freaking ring. He's gonna be a champion for life. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, it really didn't hit me. And then so
Speaker 1: we get passed this and going out on the field
Speaker 1: and I ro up to him myself, may champ me
Speaker 1: for life? Man waiting and stuff and and um and
Speaker 1: you know what. NFL Films captured what happened next as
Speaker 1: a PR person for the Rams came up in a
Speaker 1: rush and informed your son Van Jefferson that the moment
Speaker 1: was now here. It is right now. Oh my god, Yeah,
Speaker 1: mommy's gonna have a baby, you know, Yeah, mommy's gonna
Speaker 1: have your brother hospital. And it's an amazing moment because
Speaker 1: you see his reaction. But then he's also realizing, wait,
Speaker 1: I have two young kids here, I'm a father. So
Speaker 1: then he explains it to to a couple of your grandkids.
Speaker 1: What's happening right, Yes, he does. He's sitting there explained. Now,
Speaker 1: they probably don't capture me, but I'm back and I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. What is happening. You're happening fast.
Speaker 1: We gotta move. So so I'm gonna start calling him
Speaker 1: clock kid, because because I mean, he went from that
Speaker 1: field to the elevator isn't like seconds, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's almost like he's stepped into in the
Speaker 1: telephone booths and change frolls. And we were out the
Speaker 1: rams at an unbelievable job holding the elevators. Had a
Speaker 1: car service ready for us there, so we're the driver
Speaker 1: that we had was unbelievable. I got to reach out
Speaker 1: to him, find out who he was. I gott to
Speaker 1: send him a thank you card because he was darting
Speaker 1: in and out of traffic. It was an hour, like
Speaker 1: our fifteen hour, twenty minutes away um from where the
Speaker 1: delivery place was. You know. She she had a midwife
Speaker 1: going to deliver the baby. And so we'll get there
Speaker 1: and my son is texting on the phone and midwife
Speaker 1: is like, okay, we're okay, we're doing fine. So we
Speaker 1: get like thirty minutes away from there, and she calls like, hey,
Speaker 1: where are you. It's like, well, we're thirty minutes out.
Speaker 1: She said, okay, blah blah blah. So another phone call
Speaker 1: come within seconds. She's like, how far are you? Now?
Speaker 1: You better you better FaceTime because this is happening right now,
Speaker 1: a little boy though he's not He don't want to
Speaker 1: stand mommy smelling him he's coming. So so we get
Speaker 1: to within like fifteen minutes away from the delivery place
Speaker 1: and and uh, she's had he had to get on
Speaker 1: FaceTime and watch it and and but it was just
Speaker 1: just unbelievable, experienced the wholy round to be a you know,
Speaker 1: to my son went in a championship and didn't maybe
Speaker 1: becoming a grandfather. Man, it was just unbelievable experience. I
Speaker 1: couldn't have actually anything better. You know that this Super
Speaker 1: Bow Super Bowl Sunday was the best Super Bowl sun
Speaker 1: I experience in my life. And uh, I don't. I
Speaker 1: still haven't kind of fully grasped everything. So because you know,
Speaker 1: I had kind of being here for work stuff like that,
Speaker 1: it still hadn't hit me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It still think me and my wife hadn't sitting down
Speaker 1: and we haven't we haven't even discussed it yet, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it hadn't hit me. I think.
Speaker 1: I think with the next couple of days and something
Speaker 1: like that, we'll make the track back up to LA
Speaker 1: and it probably hit me then, you know, Super grandson.
Speaker 1: I love some of the headlines. A baby and a
Speaker 1: Lombardi was one head there was another headline, oh baby,
Speaker 1: exclamation point. Jefferson wins the super Bowl and welcomes the son,
Speaker 1: and then I'll rip off the opening line from an
Speaker 1: AP story Van Jefferson won the Super Bowl and it
Speaker 1: wasn't even the best part of his weekend. So I mean,
Speaker 1: let's just put it this way. What February thirteen, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two will go down as an all tim Yeah,
Speaker 1: family history, big time. I'm the worst when it comes
Speaker 1: to the dates and stuff like that, But that's one
Speaker 1: birthday I've never never forgot. Did Samaria see the halftime
Speaker 1: show they up at halftime to show did she make
Speaker 1: halftime or was it before halftime? No, she didn't make halftime. Okay, no,
Speaker 1: she didn't make half time. But it was it was
Speaker 1: it was just an unbelievable experience, and uh, gotta be
Speaker 1: just just so just awesome, you know, the energy in
Speaker 1: that stadium and and everything that was going on there.
Speaker 1: But but when I did make it down to the
Speaker 1: field and I saw the rams how they were celebrating
Speaker 1: everything like that, and it was it was like I
Speaker 1: was trapped. It was about like a minute there where
Speaker 1: I just was just looking at things, and the whole
Speaker 1: time I'm looking at the Ram players, I'm saying to myself,
Speaker 1: this has gotta be us next year. This has gotta
Speaker 1: be us next year. That's what I was saying. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I was happy for my son and
Speaker 1: and and everything like that, but I'm I'm about a minute.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at that them, I'm like, this
Speaker 1: has gotta be us. The energy was amazing, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The stadium was just everything was just
Speaker 1: just lit up, and I'm thinking, this has gotta be
Speaker 1: us year. And we all know what happened in Week four.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals went into so Far absolutely, Jack stomped the
Speaker 1: Ramps absolutely so. Is there a takeaway from what you
Speaker 1: witness firsthand? Is there any it's a copycat league? Ye?
Speaker 1: Is there anything to be learned from the manner in
Speaker 1: which the Rams won it all? Yeah? I mean, we
Speaker 1: gotta finish better. We gotta finish better, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They did. They went through they went through
Speaker 1: the highs and lows of the season, and they was
Speaker 1: able to, you know, to get through those little valleys
Speaker 1: and stuff like that and come through them and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's what we gotta learn. We gotta learn when we
Speaker 1: go through the value, we gotta learn how to come
Speaker 1: through them. We can't we can't be lost in the valley.
Speaker 1: We gotta you know what I'm saying, We gotta, we
Speaker 1: gotta push through them. And uh they they did it
Speaker 1: better than any team minute in the NFL, and that's
Speaker 1: why of the champs. Our guest here on the Big
Speaker 1: Red Rage, brought to you by Santan Ford and Gilbert,
Speaker 1: is Sean Jefferson. Not only what a seventeen year coach
Speaker 1: in the NFL, thirteen year playing career for those who
Speaker 1: don't know you were a ninth round pick Yeah, by
Speaker 1: the Houston Oil. He played thirteen years, almost two hundred games,
Speaker 1: a dozen postseason games, the two Super Bowls absolutely reference.
Speaker 1: So you're more qualified than anyone I'll talk to answer
Speaker 1: the following question. What happened? Everyone wants to know seven
Speaker 1: and oh ten and two? What happened? Well, we we
Speaker 1: we we encountered some injuries. I think injuries happened to
Speaker 1: us at the wrong time. And you know we we
Speaker 1: we're making a Super Bowl run. You got to kind
Speaker 1: of be hitting on all cylinders health wise and everything
Speaker 1: like that. And I think you know, we we we
Speaker 1: wasn't healthy at the right time. You know, our quarterback
Speaker 1: went down. Uh D. Hop was a major part of
Speaker 1: that because it changed the way the defenses will play us.
Speaker 1: It really did. He's he's such an impact player out there,
Speaker 1: and you know, and usually we have a Hopkins uh
Speaker 1: out there, the defenses usually rolled to his side. So
Speaker 1: and then you have, you know, guys playing other guys
Speaker 1: one on one. You beat you to create mismatches that way,
Speaker 1: and um, you know, by by not having him on
Speaker 1: the field certainly impacted us, It really did. I mean,
Speaker 1: think of the Rams without Cooper Cup, right, yeah. And
Speaker 1: I bring that up because there's a whole variety of stats.
Speaker 1: Obviously on Cooper Cup he won the Triple Crown or receiving.
Speaker 1: But this is one I had not heard before. After
Speaker 1: the season, someone calculated that in the fourth quarter of
Speaker 1: Ram's regular season or playoff games, Matthew Stafford to Cooper Cup,
Speaker 1: he was fifty five of sixty one passing. Wow, just
Speaker 1: to Cooper Cup. That's a ninety percent completion percentage. Seven
Speaker 1: touchdowns on the ear no interceptions just in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter to Cooper Cup. So I think everybody looks at
Speaker 1: d Hop and Kyler Murray and they see that sort
Speaker 1: of potential. So how do you get there? How do
Speaker 1: you become that sort of lethal combination? Well, I think
Speaker 1: number one, you know, these last two years put pretty
Speaker 1: much put a hamper a damper in the off season program,
Speaker 1: off season workout program. So I think now getting back
Speaker 1: to some kind of normalcy with the off season workout
Speaker 1: program and OTAs and stuff like that, I think that's
Speaker 1: when all that stuff is captured in the time and
Speaker 1: the importance of you know what I'm saying that, like
Speaker 1: getting getting reps in and and Kylum Nolan were I
Speaker 1: even look at Hop what we're doing in that situation
Speaker 1: and everything like that. I think by I was having
Speaker 1: a full off season. Now, I think that will help
Speaker 1: us going forward because if you believe a lot of
Speaker 1: the analysts who looked at especially at that fourth quarter
Speaker 1: when they were missing O B J No, Tyler Higbee,
Speaker 1: you know, and then and I mean you you just
Speaker 1: had a bunch of unknowns and Cooper Cup there were
Speaker 1: times he was getting double and triple covered. But if
Speaker 1: you listen to the analyst, Cooper cup was able to
Speaker 1: look at the coverage, read coverage and be immediately in
Speaker 1: sync with his quarterback. Right absolutely, But that that stuff
Speaker 1: happens during the off season. That's where that trusts and
Speaker 1: that's what that that that that chemistry, Uh, it takes
Speaker 1: place to an off season by by reps. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I think we can get back to
Speaker 1: some type of normalcy with this NFL off season. Um, Um,
Speaker 1: it would bolt well for us big time Cardinals receivers.
Speaker 1: Coach Sean Jefferson as our guests. So d hop is
Speaker 1: a known other than that, it's Rondelle Moore and then
Speaker 1: TBD to be determined. Right, you're looking at a lot
Speaker 1: of uncertainty right now in your room, aren't here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we have some guys that's coming up on
Speaker 1: free agency and everything, and and um that scares me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's you know, this friggs thing.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of nos in the free agency. Um.
Speaker 1: And of course you know, Christen Kirk's one of our
Speaker 1: main contributors. He's he's there. You know, we got Chase,
Speaker 1: We got a bunch of guys. So I have confidence
Speaker 1: in our GM and our owner and our whole scouting
Speaker 1: department and our head coach. Um, Um, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: that you know, we're not just gonna let players walk.
Speaker 1: We're not. You're gonna fight like hell for him. And
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I got I got a lot of
Speaker 1: confidence in those guys. We'll get it right. We'll get
Speaker 1: it right Rondale Moore, you know, And look, everyone's an
Speaker 1: armchair quarterback. I get a lot of people ask me,
Speaker 1: are they gonna target Rondale Moore down the field? More?
Speaker 1: Is there upside there? What do you think the next
Speaker 1: step is for the rookie? App The next step for
Speaker 1: him is you're right, uh talking to more down field
Speaker 1: adding to his route tree. Um, you know it's coming
Speaker 1: in as a rookie. You know, you got de Hobb,
Speaker 1: you got Kristin Kirk, you got aj Green. So he's
Speaker 1: kind of lost in that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: A boy being a rookie and everything like that. But
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that me and Runde Hall
Speaker 1: discussed about growing his routes. We've been able to put
Speaker 1: him outside a little bit more where he can run
Speaker 1: some of those routes on the outside, so his his
Speaker 1: route tree will grow leaps and bounds this year. So
Speaker 1: and again we've talked about how important off season is
Speaker 1: going to be, the workout and ota is going to be.
Speaker 1: That's when the growth come. That's we're gonna take the
Speaker 1: steps and learn how to run those routes. He's a
Speaker 1: phenomenal route runner already, but just learning the little nuances
Speaker 1: of plan on the outside and opposed a plan on
Speaker 1: the inside of the field. How about two other guys
Speaker 1: on the fringe. You saw Antoine Wesley and Cliff Kingsby
Speaker 1: really bullish on Antoine Wesley is a guy from Texas. Second,
Speaker 1: we saw him excel against Dallas in Indianapolis in particular,
Speaker 1: and then Andy Isabella. So tell us about those two
Speaker 1: guys and where you think they fit in and what
Speaker 1: their off season is going to have to accomplish. Well,
Speaker 1: it will look similar to what Rundale also look like. Um,
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff is like off seasons for for development.
Speaker 1: Tweets took a step, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: for and it's all about getting reps. I've got to
Speaker 1: get him more reps, you know what I'm saying. He's
Speaker 1: got talent. We drafted in the second round, so he's
Speaker 1: got talent. I just got to do a better job
Speaker 1: of getting him more reps. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What do you think it's his role? Andy Isabelle? Ideally?
Speaker 1: What realistically what could be his role? Well? Well, I
Speaker 1: mean kind of like what Rondale did this year, who
Speaker 1: was a gadget guy our screen runner. Um, and Andy
Speaker 1: is super fast, like you can use him in a
Speaker 1: capacity to clear his own out using mapacity for ropes
Speaker 1: down to field. You know. So, so he does have
Speaker 1: a role. I just got to do a better job
Speaker 1: of getting squid Away in that role. Run and DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins tracking from everything, you know, the injury, I mean
Speaker 1: he should be good to go from what we're hearing, correct, yep,
Speaker 1: um U talk to him a couple of times and
Speaker 1: his spirits are good, and um he's looking forward to
Speaker 1: getting back on the field. Tell me as we wrap
Speaker 1: it up here with Sean Jefferson going back to your
Speaker 1: son Week fourteen, Monday Night Football, coming out a halftime
Speaker 1: fifty two yard catch, you know. And I bring this
Speaker 1: up because NFL Films has some rate clips where he
Speaker 1: keeps the football, and he says, I'm giving this to
Speaker 1: my pops. But then on the other sideline there's a
Speaker 1: shot of you and you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: words I can't repeat right now. So how about that
Speaker 1: whole dynamic, just you and your son and he's playing
Speaker 1: for one of the team's arch rivals. Yeah, I know it,
Speaker 1: you know, like I talked to some of my colleagues
Speaker 1: all the times. Man, it's gotta be great playing against
Speaker 1: your son twice a year. I'm like, no, it's not
Speaker 1: like the swing of emotions after playing him. I mean,
Speaker 1: I go home, I'm totally like spent. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because at one point I want to beat
Speaker 1: the crap out of him, right, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm father. Won't know, Hey, I'm still father, Like I
Speaker 1: leg up on you and you know, and and and
Speaker 1: at the same time I want him to do well,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that Monday night was
Speaker 1: just like I don't know, that Monday night was like
Speaker 1: he caught the test down. I'm like, oh man, because
Speaker 1: you know, you just I'm I'm I'm I'm his father,
Speaker 1: but I'm competitive. I don't like gett my butt beat,
Speaker 1: especially not by my son, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So so uh yeah, it's just a swing of emotions, man,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's it's the toughest thing that I've
Speaker 1: had to do as a coach to sit there and
Speaker 1: watch my son on the other side of the ball.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Well, I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: root for him because I'm in competition against them again,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to do well. Like I said, I
Speaker 1: may mostly spend after those games. Hey, we know you're
Speaker 1: competitive if you wear cleats as a coach. Were are
Speaker 1: you wearing cleats right now? Coach? By the way I'm
Speaker 1: looking at Okay, how much business do you get business
Speaker 1: from the guys? Do they ras you about the cleats
Speaker 1: or is that just accepting now? And how did that starts.
Speaker 1: I'm my first coaching coaching gig and I was a trot.
Speaker 1: I started to winning clicks out there on the field
Speaker 1: for number one, Like, I like showing my guys how
Speaker 1: I want things done, and I can't do it in
Speaker 1: tennis hughes, you know, flippering and stuff like that. But
Speaker 1: I've ever since day one I've been a coach, I've
Speaker 1: had cliques on them. Like so it's it's it's just
Speaker 1: part of what I do. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's just and and and it's just it's just stuck.
Speaker 1: I just I'm not one of these coaches that I
Speaker 1: want to tell guys. What do. I want to show
Speaker 1: guys what I want them to do. You know, once
Speaker 1: I show them, they have no excuses at that point
Speaker 1: if you tell them what I thought you meant this,
Speaker 1: I thought you meant that. No, I'm gonna show you
Speaker 1: exactly what I want and I want you to do it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So that's another reason why
Speaker 1: I do it. And how critical is that as a coach,
Speaker 1: a guy who did it at the NFL level for
Speaker 1: thirteen years, that's got to bring more buying outould think
Speaker 1: from your room. Absolutely, man, it brings more more credibility,
Speaker 1: you know, to me as a coach. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And they know that I've been through the
Speaker 1: grind So like I tell guys, when I'm not going
Speaker 1: to actually do anything that I wouldn't do, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying it, But I do expect the high
Speaker 1: level of excellence when we're doing it all right. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, as much as the NFC West
Speaker 1: Okay was represented by the Rams Okay, it just I
Speaker 1: think all of everyone associated with the Cardinals just takes
Speaker 1: gratification that there was a personal connection through you and
Speaker 1: your son and the manner in which it unfolded. So
Speaker 1: is there gonna be a moment here in the offseason
Speaker 1: where everyone gets together and there'll be a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: celebration that you couldn't have after the game? Is that
Speaker 1: gonna happen in the Jefferson family somehow someway? I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure that will sometime right now, Like I'm in full,
Speaker 1: like I'm in full, like Cardinal Mold Man, I'm in
Speaker 1: frezes Mold. I'm ready for a combine and I'm ready
Speaker 1: to get to OTAs because i mean, just seeing that that,
Speaker 1: when I saw in that field with my son him,
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's gotta be us this year. So that's
Speaker 1: the moment I'm in And I'm guessing you're sharing that
Speaker 1: with the guys in the rest of that room. So absolutely, okay, coach,
Speaker 1: thank you, Thank thank guys for having there. You go
Speaker 1: Sean Jefferson, who, yeah, he's probably a knee deep in
Speaker 1: college film right now, watching all these guys getting ready
Speaker 1: for the combine. Well, yeah, there you go, and we
Speaker 1: wrap it up with a head nod as well as
Speaker 1: we continue here at the Big Red Rage presented by
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Speaker 1: throw Murray in trouble, spins out of there to his left,
Speaker 1: being chased by two Vikings, and launches a deep, wide
Speaker 1: open near side of the parties. Mindel mar Cod at
Speaker 1: the thirty twenty at the fifteen ten five clip down,
Speaker 1: Tyler Murray, you are ridiculous, Murray, Madchicks. Seventy seven yard
Speaker 1: tops down pass. Ninety nine point nine percent of the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the planet gets sacked. And not only is
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray not get sacked rows a touchdown, Nasty Nasty does.
Speaker 1: And we all know that Kyler Murray is nasty. The
Speaker 1: stuff you see in dreams and in video games, but
Speaker 1: not in the NFL. WHOA, that's a great call, Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals radio network pass and wolf the seventy seven yard
Speaker 1: catch and run, and it was a run by Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray as well, just to make way. In fact, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if that was the exact play, but we
Speaker 1: got anecdotes as the season went on that opposing defensive
Speaker 1: coordinators Ron Wolfley, when they showed film of Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: they would show some of the plays where he would
Speaker 1: extend plays for ten, twelve, thirteen seconds. We saw him
Speaker 1: do it in week one against Tennessee that play there,
Speaker 1: Rondale Moore. It is a big red rage And we
Speaker 1: just had Sean Jefferson on wolf Would you make of
Speaker 1: the Sean Jefferson interview? Wow, Bally, You know, honestly, I've
Speaker 1: got to start with the injuries he was talking about,
Speaker 1: in particular two DeAndre Hopkins right there. I really do
Speaker 1: think Paula, I didn't think it was going to be
Speaker 1: that big of a deal. I'd listen, that sounds crazy
Speaker 1: to say when you're talking about nuke, you're talking about
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, one of the best wide receivers in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. Yet at the same time, I thought
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray in this offense had so many other weapons
Speaker 1: that they were going to be able to absorb that
Speaker 1: loss of d hop And although they wouldn't be nearly
Speaker 1: as effective, I thought going forward, I thought, surely they
Speaker 1: were still going to be able to go out and
Speaker 1: score points and win games. And Paul, I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: when d Hop went down, that changed everything. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: heard Sean Jefferson say it. You know what we talked
Speaker 1: about the whole second half of the season. It just
Speaker 1: changed the way defenses played the Arizona Cardinals. And no
Speaker 1: longer we're coverages rolling to his side, and no longer
Speaker 1: does some of the other guys get those one on
Speaker 1: one man to man matchups. Because of it, and for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, the Cardinals just struggled minus d Hop, and
Speaker 1: they struggled mightily and losing five of the last six. Paul,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought that opschematics matter right in
Speaker 1: the way that defenses would try to defend Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: and the Arizona Cardinals. Coverage was not nearly as predictable
Speaker 1: when d Hop went down. Coverage wasn't nearly as predictable
Speaker 1: as when d Hop was out there. I think Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray had cleared up a lot of his reads for
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray a lot of times too. You were gonna
Speaker 1: see two safeties high. You were gonna you were gonna
Speaker 1: see two safeties high, and that meant they weren't going
Speaker 1: to be able to jam up the box, and that
Speaker 1: also had an impact on the offense in terms of
Speaker 1: running the ball, especially with James Connor in between the tackles.
Speaker 1: No doubt, Rondale Moore, that was the subject we heard
Speaker 1: there the Highlight and we talked with Sean Jefferson, the
Speaker 1: Cardinals receivers coach, about Rondale Moore, or the second round
Speaker 1: rookie out of Purdue, and and he confirmed yes, they
Speaker 1: they definitely planned to target him more downfield. They said
Speaker 1: he's already had the conversation Rondel Moore that we want
Speaker 1: to expand your route tree within the offense. Says he
Speaker 1: already is a really good route runner for a young guy.
Speaker 1: But what's intriguing is the prospect of moving him outside more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting, especially if you then figure Andy Isabella,
Speaker 1: because that was our next question, we if Andy Isabella
Speaker 1: would fill the role perhaps that Rondale Moore occupied this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see what happens. But Rondel
Speaker 1: Moore is a guy I was so high on Rondel
Speaker 1: Moore early on. Paul, I think we all pretty much
Speaker 1: were on Rondel Moore, and yet at the same time
Speaker 1: I remember saying specifically, man, he's got to get vertical. Vertical,
Speaker 1: he's got to get vertical. If he can get vertical
Speaker 1: and become a vertical threat like a Tyreek Hill, Yes,
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, he gets a lot of horizontal stuff, but man,
Speaker 1: the thing that is at the base of Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: is the verticality of him. He opens everything up underneath
Speaker 1: for the likes of a Travis Kelsey, opens up everything
Speaker 1: underneath and intermediate for a lot of his receivers. Rondelle
Speaker 1: Moore has the ability to do this if in fact,
Speaker 1: they can get him to run nine routes which are
Speaker 1: go routes, run those eight routes which are posts, or
Speaker 1: the corner route, the corner route that is a seven route, Paul.
Speaker 1: If he can run these deep routes and be effective
Speaker 1: at that and run by people, man, that's when it
Speaker 1: gets so good for a guy liked hop yeah, and
Speaker 1: that too high safety shell coverage. Oh yeah, you know
Speaker 1: he talked about. Now boom, that's where you get the
Speaker 1: old phrase to take the top off, right. That's when
Speaker 1: a guy's able to do something like that. So you
Speaker 1: have Rondel Moore and d hop they are really the
Speaker 1: only knowns, the only certainties in that Cardinals receiver room.
Speaker 1: And so we asked Sean Jefferson, Look, it's less than
Speaker 1: a month away free agency. March sixteenth is when free
Speaker 1: agency begins, and we asked Sean Jefferson, just about the
Speaker 1: unknowns right now? You know, we have some guys coming
Speaker 1: up on free agency and everything, and um, that scares me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's, you know, this friggs thing.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of knows in the free agency.
Speaker 1: And of course, you know, Christian Kirk's one of our
Speaker 1: main contributors. He's he's there. You know, we got Chase,
Speaker 1: we got a bunch of guys. So um, but I'm
Speaker 1: I have confidence in our GM and our owner and
Speaker 1: whole scouting department and our head coach. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: that you know, we're not just gonna let players walk.
Speaker 1: We're not. We're gonna fight like hell for him. And
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I got I got a lot of
Speaker 1: confidence in those guys. We'll get it right. Christian Kirk
Speaker 1: just under a thousand yards receiving this year former second
Speaker 1: round pick at the end of his rookie contract. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if there was a lot of interest
Speaker 1: in a receiver in his prime right now, Yeah, Paula,
Speaker 1: I know I'm with you on that one. Right there. Um,
Speaker 1: I think somebody's gonna come in and somebody's gonna make
Speaker 1: an offer to Christian Kirk that the Arizona Cardinals are
Speaker 1: going to be unable to match. This is just a guess.
Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong. Yet at the same time, I
Speaker 1: want to see him do well. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You know, should Kirk the affinity and affection that we
Speaker 1: have for Christian Kirk. I want to see him do well.
Speaker 1: I want to see him get rewarded. Yet at the
Speaker 1: same time, I want to see the Cardinals do well.
Speaker 1: So you're torn, very much like Sean Jefferson. You're suddenly
Speaker 1: torn between wanting to see the best for Christian Kirk,
Speaker 1: who was a local product, of course, and then what
Speaker 1: is the best for the Arizona Cardinals. I would hate
Speaker 1: to lose Christian Kirk. I just think that's probably going
Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, I mean, if you know, for example,
Speaker 1: if you know, Rondell Moore d hop and then maybe
Speaker 1: a receiver taken in the first or second round. Maybe
Speaker 1: that other outside guy was some size perhaps to go.
Speaker 1: If you indeed lose Christian Kirk, we'll see what Paul is.
Speaker 1: Can I just jump in and say, you know Antoine
Speaker 1: Wesley as well? Right, there's a guy that is really
Speaker 1: intriguing going forward. Could he fill that role very much
Speaker 1: like an AJ Green on the outside? Could he fill
Speaker 1: that of having a big wide receiver to throw the
Speaker 1: ball down the field too. I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: liked what I saw from Antoine Wesley last year. And
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of competitive fire. I mean, that
Speaker 1: guy is intense. Cliff Kingsbury will tell we saw it
Speaker 1: in camp. I mean he was on the verge of
Speaker 1: a few camp fights as a receiver, which you which
Speaker 1: you rarely. That's always a BLUs ball. That is absolutely college.
Speaker 1: In fact, speaking of when we asked Sean Jefferson, okay,
Speaker 1: is there a takeaway from the Rams winning the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Is there anything to be learned? Because he was so
Speaker 1: close with his son and he was there at the
Speaker 1: game and he didn't hesitate. He said an I quote,
Speaker 1: we got to finish better. We can't get lost in
Speaker 1: the valley every season. As his ups in its downs,
Speaker 1: peaks and valleys. We can't get lost in the valley.
Speaker 1: Translate that for us. What do you think he meant
Speaker 1: by that? Yeah, Paula, you just got to be more consistent.
Speaker 1: You have to be able to overcome adversity. That's what
Speaker 1: do you mean. You can't just face the valley and
Speaker 1: not be able to climb out of the valley. You've
Speaker 1: got to be able to face at adverse city and
Speaker 1: overcome it. Finish better. We know, we know exactly what
Speaker 1: that means, Pollie. You think of the last two years,
Speaker 1: many whole two and five, paul And again, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to say the four and seven. I'm gonna look
Speaker 1: more specifically at the one in four finish, which is
Speaker 1: a worse losing percentage is a matter of fact, look
Speaker 1: at the one in four because that is a sample
Speaker 1: size where weeks start to consecutively pile up one and four.
Speaker 1: You could just see the Cardinals they were in trouble
Speaker 1: and because of that, POLLI, they've got to finish better.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what Sean Jefferson is talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how about him sharing that when he was down in
Speaker 1: that field, he was so happy for his son well
Speaker 1: once again torn because he's looking at the Rams sand. Yes,
Speaker 1: this has got to be us. Next year, we continue
Speaker 1: with a Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 1: We're talking about next year and how the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: might tie into that. Next on the Big Red Rage.
Speaker 1: In the victory formation, Stafford gets the snap in Goose
Speaker 1: doing me eclipt benches are gonna empty and the Rams
Speaker 1: are gonna win it with the script right out of
Speaker 1: Hollywood and the stars studded Los Angeles Rams all right,
Speaker 1: yet they have won Super Bowl fifty six and traumatic
Speaker 1: coming from behind packing. Wow, I'll tell you what. You
Speaker 1: had a Rams team that really couldn't run the ball
Speaker 1: in that game. They had twenty three carries for forty
Speaker 1: three yards rushing. They didn't have OBJ for a good
Speaker 1: majority of that game. No, Tyler Higbee their second and
Speaker 1: third biggest weapons in that offense. But Matthew Stafford and
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and then Aaron Donald at the very end, boom.
Speaker 1: They are Super Bowl champions and the next super Bowl
Speaker 1: will be in the AC Super Bowl fifty seven, February
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. As we wrap up this edition to
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Speaker 1: Gilbert Paul KELBC Ron Wolfley, and we saw the approach,
Speaker 1: did we not? You trade it away? Well, we are
Speaker 1: less sneaed at the parade and what do you say?
Speaker 1: Bleep those picks right, and he's wearing the T shirt.
Speaker 1: So it's Jo settled out. It's a copycat league, Ron Wolfley.
Speaker 1: Do you expect other teams to follow this sort of
Speaker 1: blueprint where you go after the superstars, you trade away
Speaker 1: the unknown for the proven, and then just fill in
Speaker 1: your roster after that. Yeah, no, Polly, absolutely. It is
Speaker 1: a year to year proposition. The day of trying to
Speaker 1: build a dynasty truly is non existent in the NFL anymore.
Speaker 1: It is a year to year proposition. You do whatever
Speaker 1: you can to feel the best team year in and
Speaker 1: year out. Yes, you're gonna have a nucleus of players,
Speaker 1: there's no denying that. But man, you've got so much
Speaker 1: more turnover than you've ever had before. How close do
Speaker 1: you think the Arizona Cardinals are right now? We heard
Speaker 1: that call from Westwood one and Kevin Harland. I mean, realistically, legitimately,
Speaker 1: how close are the Cardinals? I think a lot of us,
Speaker 1: including yours truly are confused because they just hammered the
Speaker 1: Rams in Week four. They didn't play all that well
Speaker 1: in Week fourteen, barely lost at the end. Kyler had
Speaker 1: no touchdown, passes, two picks. They still almost won and
Speaker 1: went down to the final possession. Then obviously the playoff
Speaker 1: loss was lopsided. So I'm trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: close how much ground did the Cardinals have to make
Speaker 1: up on the Super Bowl champion. Yeah, you know, honestly,
Speaker 1: BALI it just ten and two happened. That happened that much.
Speaker 1: I do know they were the best team in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. Ten and two happened now for a
Speaker 1: lot of different reasons, and I think injuries are certainly
Speaker 1: one of them, but for a lot of different reasons.
Speaker 1: I think the lack of leadership down the stretch factored
Speaker 1: into this team. And they're finished, they're one and four finish,
Speaker 1: they get factored into that, Paulie. But you know, once again, listen,
Speaker 1: this is a year to year proposition, and you've got
Speaker 1: to continue to hope that picks like Isaiah Simmons right
Speaker 1: and Zavian Collins, that these guys are going to be
Speaker 1: able to step up next year and really make some
Speaker 1: massive strides going forward. And Rondale Moore is another guy.
Speaker 1: I think some of these young guys have got to
Speaker 1: step up and take on a new role, a dynamic
Speaker 1: role offensively or defensively going forward. Paul all Right, Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury the day after the playoff loss, and he just
Speaker 1: hit zoom out, look big picture and going forward, what
Speaker 1: exactly is the game plan? The head coach, Cliff Kingsbury,
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of work to do and we
Speaker 1: want to be better and finished strong on all those things.
Speaker 1: But we definitely improved dramatically in the first three years
Speaker 1: and we're hoping to do the same next year, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to. The NFC West is a challenge
Speaker 1: year in and you're out with great players and great teams,
Speaker 1: and we got to make some real progress that we
Speaker 1: want to keep up. Yeah, what the SEC is to
Speaker 1: college football, the NFC West is to the NFL. There's
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Next up, you're gonna get the
Speaker 1: combine the first week of March, and then mid March
Speaker 1: you're gonna get free agency. Ron Wolfley. The Athletic put
Speaker 1: out a ranking of the top seventy five free agents
Speaker 1: that are going to be available. Three Cardinals. Now, somehow
Speaker 1: James Conner, a Pro Bowl running back, did not appear
Speaker 1: on the top seventy five free agents. So okay, good ball,
Speaker 1: not exactly go ahead ball, I hope nobody, Yeah, nobody
Speaker 1: notices right, everybody forget about James conn I think you
Speaker 1: see here, Paul, Yeah, number six, Chandler Jones, number thirty one,
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk number fifty seven. Zach Ertz, Yes, you're Steve Kime.
Speaker 1: What sort of order of importance would you put on these?
Speaker 1: Penny Man? You know what, Paul, I really don't know
Speaker 1: how Steve would feel about this. I will tell you
Speaker 1: right now. My own thought is they need to get
Speaker 1: an offensive guard, Paul, and if it is a free
Speaker 1: agency PAULI is at via draft pick. They need an
Speaker 1: offensive guard. In my opinion, they need a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: In other words, they need to protect Kyler Murray, especially
Speaker 1: the interior pocket. The interior has got to get more solidified.
Speaker 1: They got to find a way to bring back Justin
Speaker 1: Pew even though he's under contract. There's a weird situation
Speaker 1: going on with him where the contract that they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to re up him they need to protect Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: Maybe you draft a offensive guard at number twenty three.
Speaker 1: The wide receiver. You got to give Kyler Murray more options.
Speaker 1: You've got to find a wide receiver and then Paully,
Speaker 1: you got to bring a tight end in. Who's a
Speaker 1: two way guy. This is this is I've talked to
Speaker 1: you about this before. But you need a tight end
Speaker 1: and run down situation first and ten second and one
Speaker 1: to six that you can line up and run the
Speaker 1: ball or throw the ball. They were at their best
Speaker 1: when they had Max Williams as that tight end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was an underrated loss. And you've pointed out out
Speaker 1: for a long time and aptly so you're absolutely right
Speaker 1: on that one. I mean, protect that quarterback, yes, I
Speaker 1: agree with you. Get to the get to the quarterback. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones could be act. They tagged him once upon
Speaker 1: a time, and then a couple months later they came
Speaker 1: up with a contract extension and Darren Urban pointed out
Speaker 1: an acy Cardinals dot Com if you tag Chandler Jones
Speaker 1: would be just over eighteen million. Is that feasible? Is
Speaker 1: that doable for a team that's just slightly over the
Speaker 1: cap right now? I don't know what sort of attention
Speaker 1: will a thirty two year old pass rusher get. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Paulie know that. I think he's going to get attention
Speaker 1: on a one or two year deal, right there, Brot
Speaker 1: you know, um, I kind of like that right there,
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