1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Right with Me? Great episode three oh six, 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: A ton to do today? Demand in Los Angeles, me 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: here in New York. By the way, for people watching 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: on YouTube, we have sent off to the framers more 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: things for our background, so hopefully in the next couple 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: of weeks the background will get filled up a little 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: bit more. You also might in the background, see like, 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: are those a couple of microphones far in the distance? 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: They are? That's for the podcast we're developing. That'll be 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: me and a different member of the family when in 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: studio here, and by studio I mean Demand's old bedroom 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: so and so, which is our new podcast studio. So 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: that'll be so that'll be coming in short order. We 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: have the setup for that here. Demanse, how are you. 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: I'm doing great this morning. How you doing, Pops? 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: You sound great? Wow? Yeah, I don't know what's change 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: with your microphone or maybe in a late stage final puberty. 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: You sound like even deeper points than usual. But you said, 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm bro Let's get right to it. So here's what 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: missed the cut. The Cavs clinched the playoffs last night. 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: That missed the cut Max Crosby getting thirty five and 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: a half million dollars per year that missed the cut, 23 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: and James Harden with his first fifty point game as 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: a Clipper. Also, it's now I think the third time 25 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: in his career he has had a game with fifteen 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: points on twos, fifteen points on threes, fifteen points on 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: three throws, and a few other you know, random stats 28 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: where he's the only guy to ever do that. I 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: was going to start the show on around the Horn, 30 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: and we are gonna get to around the Horn in 31 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: just a moment. But first I just a little a 32 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: little point of order, because I did notice yesterday that 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: there have been some folks friends of mine that, you know, 34 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: bowing out is one way to put it, Waving the 35 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: white flag is another way to put it. Who are like, 36 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: you know what this Jordan Lebron debate, let's retire it. 37 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: And usually, in my experience, people that are that have 38 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: been very ardent and adamant about something for years and 39 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: years and years and they just seemingly out of the 40 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: blue be like, I don't want to argue about this anymore. 41 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: Usually it means they have a lose they know they 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: have a losing hand. Very rarely are people right when 43 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: they're about to win an argument, be like, you know what, 44 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: let's just shake hands and move on. So that's fine. 45 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: I've always said history is gonna look fondly on the 46 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: correct side of the argument, which is mine. But the 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: point of order that I must address, which is even 48 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: the folks who argue that Lebron is the goat, far 49 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: too many of them say and Jordan had the higher peak, 50 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: just like as a given. But and then they do 51 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: a whole thing, but the you know, Lebron's longevity in 52 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: this and that, and the third we did a whole 53 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: show on this once before, so we don't have to 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: do a whole show where he kind of broke it 55 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: down different slices. But I just want to remind the 56 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: audience in America the single greatest season of professional basketball 57 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: ever played by any player was the twenty twelve twenty 58 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: thirteen Lebron James Miami Heat season. No player has ever 59 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: reached a higher peak than the following one vote for 60 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: being unanimous MVP when no one had ever been unanimous 61 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: MVP runner up and Defensive Player of the Year when 62 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: the guy who beat him in Defensive Player of the 63 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: Year wasn't even first team All defense, shooting fifty seven 64 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: percent from the floor and forty percent from three, a 65 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: twenty seven game winning streak. It's all culminating in a 66 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: Game seven of the Finals, where he hit the game 67 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: clinching jump shot for thirty seven and twelve against a 68 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: team with four future first Ballot Hall of Famers. That 69 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: season is the greatest single season start to finish any 70 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: players ever had. So it's not just the longevity side 71 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: of it, it's the peak side of it as well. 72 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: Now we can move on to the actual show. Go ahead, 73 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: all right? 74 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, after twenty three years and over forty nine 75 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: hundred episodes Around the Horn espns, Around the Horn has 76 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: coming to a halt May twenty third, what are your 77 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: thoughts on it ending and what did the show mean 78 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 3: to you? 79 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: All right? So I can't speak to why it's ending. 80 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't really make sense to me. But I don't 81 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I can't look at their books. 82 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what their plans are. They can do 83 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: whatever whatever they want. I do want to say, as 84 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: someone who has not ever been bashful about criticizing either 85 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: shows or personalities or opinions, really more opinions than people 86 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: that I disagree with that. I do not think it 87 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: is an exaggeration to say for me personally, Around the 88 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: Horn was the single most important sports show that ever existed. 89 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: And for me personally, I know I wouldn't be doing 90 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: what I'm doing now on television if not for Around 91 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: the Horn. For I'm forty years old. For people my generation, 92 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: the combo in our teen years of PTI coming on 93 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: the air, and then Around the Horn coming on after 94 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: being our for so many of us, the first shows 95 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: we ever DVRD being daily after school viewing, and then 96 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: Around the Horn for those of us who were getting 97 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: into the business being seemingly an attainable goal of like, man, 98 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: one day I'm going to be on Around the Horn 99 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: and having that be a carrot of if I work 100 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 1: hard enough, if I can make myself a name within 101 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: my city big enough, man, maybe just maybe I can 102 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: get on Around the Horn. And it was a show 103 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: for writers, initially exclusively, and then it expanded a bit, 104 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: and then I saw Bomani Jones on there, and I 105 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: understand BALMANI was a writer as well as other things, 106 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: but I didn't view Bimani as a writer. I viewed 107 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: Bomani as a radio host. He hosted The Morning Jones 108 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: on Sirius XM, and that's before Bamani was one of 109 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: my dearest friends in the world. He was a guy 110 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: who I knew of his radio show, I knew of 111 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: his Twitter presence, and I knew of him on Around 112 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: the Horn. And once Bomani got on Around the Horn, 113 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna I I need to get 114 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: on that show. I'm going to work to get on 115 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: that show. And in Houston, I kind of talked my 116 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: way into a It wasn't even a part time job, 117 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: just an occasional appearance gig on Comcast Sports at Houston. 118 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: And the reason I did it was to create a 119 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: television reel to try to get on Around the Horn. 120 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: And that shows ability to give people reps on TV, 121 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: opportunities to do TV and what it has done for 122 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: people in our industry's careers is unlike any other show 123 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: that I think has ever existed. And the fact that 124 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: along the way post Max Kell and I have so 125 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: many I will I'm gonna spend real time on this. 126 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: My connections to Around the Horn without ever being on 127 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: it is It's remarkable when I look back and think 128 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: on it, so I'll tell those stories in a moment, 129 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: but post Max Kellerman, who did a great job with it, 130 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: and then Reality takes it over, and Tony Reality, who 131 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: at one day I'll meet him, but I've never met him. 132 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: Tony Reality's ability from when he was a kid taking 133 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: over that show and kind of being the conscience of 134 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: that show and the through line of the show is 135 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: one of the most impressive broadcasting feats in our industry ever. 136 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: And I Reality would tweet out texts he would send 137 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: people saying like, you know that it was gonna be 138 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: their first time, you know you're gonna invite someone on 139 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: a show, first time on the show, and all that stuff. 140 00:09:53,800 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: And there was a period of time where I thought 141 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: I might be getting an invite this nine years ago, 142 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: and Reality tweeted getting ready to inte something. I'm gonna 143 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: misquote it a bit, but you know, getting ready to 144 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: send out an invite to someone who's never been on 145 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,359 Speaker 1: a show, and then described the person, and I convinced 146 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: myself it was me he was talking about, and I 147 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: was just waiting. I remember I was in an airport 148 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: and I was so nervous. I'm like, I'm gonna be 149 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: on the plane and I might not get the text. 150 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: And then I got on the plane, no service, get 151 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: off the plane, turn my phone back on. Don't have 152 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: the text, and I checked and see it was like, 153 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: oh man, it wasn't me. And I just it was 154 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: such a goal and a valuable thing. And I'm sad 155 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna be gone. And when I say my connections 156 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: to it, demanse, the through lines of this are truly 157 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: gonna blow your mind. Okay, so I already mentioned Kellerman 158 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: was the original host. Kellerman I interned at ESPN Radio 159 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: twenty years ago in New York. ESPN Radio, New York, 160 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: and Kellerman was one of the guys I interned for. 161 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: But that wasn't a real connection. I mean, I knew 162 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: him and he was super nice to me, but that 163 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: wasn't the connection. The connection is the following. Okay, it's 164 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: thirteen years ago. I set up a meeting. I'm gonna 165 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: go to New York. I'm doing radio in Houston. I'm 166 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: gonna fly to New York and I'm gonna meet with 167 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: two people. One is Eric Rideholme, who created Around the Horn, 168 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: and the other is Jamie Horowitz, who was a big 169 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: wig at ESPN kind of on the TV show side 170 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: first take. He then ended up being well, I'll get 171 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: to the Jamie piece of it in a minute, and 172 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go meet with those people and sell them on. 173 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: Let me have a shot on this show. Let me 174 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: have a shot on Around the Horn. And I fly 175 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: into New York on my own dime. And when I land, 176 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: I check my email and my meeting with Jamie has 177 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: been canceled because he got called into Bristol. And I 178 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: now have a meeting with someone else who I don't 179 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: really know who he is, but when I see the name, 180 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I recognize this name. I've heard this 181 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: guy on Bill Simmons podcast and he's a different executive 182 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: at ESPN, And so I have about I have a 183 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: night before that. I flew in it like I don't know, 184 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: Tuesday night. The meetings are Wednesday morning. I'm gonna meet 185 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: in with this meet with this guy who's not Jamie, 186 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna meet with ride home and I 187 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: prep and I listen to all these podcasts that this 188 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: guy's been on and I walk into his office and 189 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: I pitch and I know his story and the guy 190 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: at the end of it of my Pitch is like 191 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: all right, yeah, I mean that's that's interesting, but you know, 192 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: like I have nothing to do with that show, right, 193 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, that person was Kevin Wilds. That's 194 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: a true story. I then I'm like, well, this meeting 195 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: went just terribly, Like this guy thinks I'm a fool 196 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: and I'm wasting his time and he's he's working on 197 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: the Olberman show. Like that went terribly. I didn't meet 198 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: with ride Home, who is one of the kindest, most 199 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: brilliant people I've ever had the pleasure of knowing in 200 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: the kind of dining area of the Whole Foods in 201 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: Columbus Circle. And I I'm going to see if I 202 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: can pull this up the email bring manilla envelopes, So 203 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: this one I did not, So I have the I 204 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: didn't do theanilla envelope thing. But let me see the 205 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: I want to spell his name right in the email. 206 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: See if I can find the email. But I see, 207 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: so I can get the exact date. So the first date, Okay, 208 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: so this is we met in November of thirteen. In 209 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: November of thirteen is when we met, and when I 210 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: went to New York, and so this is twelve years ago, 211 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: like I thought. And so the meeting went really well 212 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: with ride home, but he was like, listen, we do 213 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: have you know, you're not a writer essentially, but that 214 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: doesn't the door is not closed to you. So I 215 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: kind of pitched him my pitch to ride home if 216 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: I remember, In fact, I'll just tell you, guys, I 217 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: do remember. I don't want to act like I'm not 218 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: sure I do remember. My pitch to ride home was 219 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: this they had at that point on around the Horn 220 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: kind of old journalists and then the new wave young 221 00:15:55,200 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: journalists who they brought on. And the old journalists were 222 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: almost all white guys and all and the vast majority 223 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: of the new way the newer guys they had brought 224 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: on were minorities and women, and so I what I 225 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: said to him was, I was like, what, as an 226 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: audience member, very often you are having disagreements that I 227 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: think break down on generational levels, but appear to be 228 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: breaking down on either racial or gender angles. Because all 229 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: the old guys are white males, and almost all the 230 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: young people are, you know, either women or non white guys. 231 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: I was like, so you you Basically my pitch was 232 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: you need an older black panelist and a younger white 233 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: panelist to see like, wait, is this a generational disagreement 234 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: or a cultural racial whatever it was? And he was perceptive, 235 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: but I wasn't a writer. And so that was in thirteen. 236 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: Fast forward to a couple years later, Jamie gets hired 237 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: from ESPN and some other places to run FS one 238 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: and I called in the chit of he had canceled 239 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: that meeting on me to get a meeting with him 240 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: that was actually supposed to be about Fox Sports Radio. 241 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: That's a whole nother, longer, more convoluted story, doesn't matter, 242 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: And I ended up getting it because the around the 243 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: because he had canceled on me before. He then connected 244 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: me to a guy named Charlie Dixon, who I ended 245 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: up hitting it off with, and then they those two 246 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: guys hired me for FS one, and to this date, 247 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: Charlie's my boss. In the midst of all of it. 248 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: In the midst of all of that, right before I 249 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: agreed to a deal with Fox, ESPN came back to me. 250 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: This is in twenty sixteen. January twenty sixteen, ESPN came 251 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: back to me and offered me a job doing radio 252 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: in LA and weekly Around the Horn appearances and the 253 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: moment they offered me that, I was like, well, I'm 254 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: taking that job I want. I'm a radio guy and 255 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to be on Around the Horn. And 256 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: then Charlie, to his credit, called me and in a 257 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: thirty minute conversation sold me on why I should come 258 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: to Fox, and it ended up being the best decision 259 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: I ever made. I wouldn't have had this trajectory or whatever. 260 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: And my only like wistfulness of it was, man, if 261 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: I do this, I'll probably never get to be on 262 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: around the Horn. And now you know, now officially I won't. 263 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: And that's fine. I have there's no no regrets. But 264 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: that show meant a lot to me. So I know, listen, 265 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: that's twenty minutes of today's show. I don't know how 266 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: much the audience cares. I hope they care. I care, 267 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: and just shout out to the people who made that 268 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: show to ride Home and Solomon and Reality and Reality 269 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: Pardon Me and the countless panelists and all of it. 270 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: And so yeah, the question was what does it mean 271 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: to you? I think you did a good job at 272 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: makes sense? 273 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, no, I know, I certainly a The question 274 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: that my question was, does the audience give a shit 275 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: about my answer to the question I have to do. 276 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: But uh but yeah, so there it is, all right, 277 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: let's do uh the actual sports stuff. 278 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we got Knicks Lakers tonight, Lakers. They are 279 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 3: seventeen and three over their last twenty. Cat missed the 280 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: last game they lost to Golden State, but he should 281 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: be back, which is gonna be good for them. They're 282 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: zero to eight against Boston, Cleveland, Oklahoma City and the Lakers, 283 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 3: so tonight with Kat should be a good test for them. 284 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: You said that they're going in the wrong direction though, 285 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 3: What's what's going on? 286 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: Then? 287 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't think. I don't think the Knicks 288 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: can beat the best teams in basketball. And they were 289 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: they were built in a way where they're supposed to 290 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: be able to beat the best teams in basketball. That's 291 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: the problem. You don't go you don't go out and 292 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: spend this type of money on trade for Karl Anthony 293 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: Towns not the money thing, and trade for McHale Bridges 294 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: to be in the same spot the Knicks are supposed 295 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: to be having this season, the Cabs are having, maybe 296 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: not the gaudy record, but like, oh man, they really 297 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: might be able to beat the selfish Yes, exactly right, 298 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: and instead they just get their teeth kicked in by 299 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: good teams. Now, it is usually in moments like this 300 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: that you get you know, the league zags a bit, 301 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: where this is the when everyone is super high on 302 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: the Lakers right now and way low on the Knicks 303 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: against good teams, the type of game you're not that 304 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: shocked if the Knicks win tonight, and I wouldn't be 305 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: that shocked if the Knicks win tonight the Lakers and 306 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: will get more on the Lakers in a minute. The 307 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: Lakers can't stay this hot. I mean they're on. I 308 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: mean they're on a seventy win pace for the last 309 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: quarter of the season. I mean that's well. I think 310 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,239 Speaker 1: that their defense can be really good. They have the 311 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: number one Let me rephrase that. I think their defense 312 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: can be good. Their defense during this stretch has been great. 313 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: I think that is probably Yeah. I think that water 314 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: will find its level a bit there. But I just 315 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: don't to me, there are six teams that can win 316 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: the title demonse six and this is not in the order, 317 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: but in the East Boston, Cleveland, Milwaukee, and in the West, 318 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: the Lakers, the thun and Denver and to it is 319 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: you put those teams into two separate buckets, Boston Cleveland. Oksee, 320 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: you put in the outstanding rosters eight deep. You know, 321 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: like that are going to be able to play a 322 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: bunch of different ways, in a bunch of different you 323 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: know it, styles, all of it. And then Lakers, Bucks 324 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: Nuggets you put in the star driven Well, yeah, I 325 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: mean you're probably just gonna have the best player on 326 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: the floor. And it was you know for what, Jokic, 327 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: It's it's you have this transcendent superstar and then an 328 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: awesome number two. So the reason Milwaukee is back in 329 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: that group is Dame is playing like an awesome number 330 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: or two. The reason Denver is back in that group 331 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: is Jamal Murray now that he's in shape, is playing 332 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: like an awesome number two. And the reason the Lakers 333 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: are back in that group is because man, oh Man 334 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: Luke is a hell of a number two. I'm kidding, no, 335 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: yeah no, Because now that the Lakers are in a 336 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: position where Lebron in a playoff series can be their 337 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: second best player, they're they're wildly dangerous, wildly dangerous, and 338 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: I am in shout out to Sam Amic for writing 339 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: an article owning it. I'm really curious what Barkley's gonna 340 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: say tonight. I am shocked that there were a lot 341 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: of folks who thought Lebron wouldn't be able to instantly 342 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 1: adjust how he plays. The idea like, this is what 343 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: I want to say about Lebron, and then Demon's say, 344 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: I do want to do? We skipped it. But the 345 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: Steph and the Goat conversation. The there the amount of 346 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: people who act like Lebron plays for lack of a 347 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: better term, a selfish style of basketball in the face 348 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: of twenty years of history, was really odd to me. 349 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: And by that I mean this the idea that Lebron 350 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: has played at times kind of the heliocentric I need 351 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: to control everything style in service of his ego as 352 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: opposed to in service of this is the best way 353 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: to win. I thought it was odd that folks were like, well, 354 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: Lebron doesn't play without the ball in his hands. He 355 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: hasn't except for a couple years in Miami, really had 356 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 1: the opportunity to play without the ball in his hands 357 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: because he's never had a teammate where the team has 358 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: a better chance of creating great offense, running the show 359 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: that gives them a better chance than with them running 360 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: the show rather than Lebron. Lebron is a guy who 361 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear could have in his prime 362 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: won the scoring title any year he wanted to, and 363 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: instead he won one. Ever why because he was doing 364 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: what would have been best for the team when they 365 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: get Luca. What's best for the team is for Luca 366 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: to be running the show a lot, and Lebron instantly 367 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: did that, of course, and also to me, not surprisingly, 368 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: now that Lebron doesn't have to run the show on offense, 369 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: he has more energy on defense. So the Lakers are 370 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: a top tier contender. And JJ Reddick has done and 371 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: I gotta give him credit, man, he has done an 372 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: awesome job. They are buttoned up, they are prepared. He 373 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: is grinding his ass off and they It is been 374 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: really impressive watching him and watching them. They've been without 375 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: Reeves and Ruey and they're doing this. So I'm super 376 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: excited for Nicks Lakers tonight. There is a chance I 377 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: do a live reaction pod after the game, like for 378 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: like twenty minutes. The problem with that is that was 379 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: my plan, and then I think think when I made 380 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: that plan, I was in New Zealand, and I had 381 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: the time of the game all screwed up because it 382 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: was showing me the time in New Zealand, and I 383 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: didn't do the math right. That game's gonna end. That 384 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: game's gonna end around one am Eastern. So like I 385 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: so I so I'm not. It's less about me. I'm 386 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: always if I stay up to watch a big game, 387 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: I always have trouble going to sleep. So it's less 388 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: about like me falling, like needing to go right to bed. 389 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: It's more about two things. One is I don't know 390 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: how to do any of the tech stuff, so somebody's 391 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: got to be up on the other end doing that. 392 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: And the other one is this I'm quite loud and 393 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: me doing this pod at one am in a sleeping house, 394 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: and you know the geography of the house, demons a 395 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: sleeping right next to a window. It's all no, but 396 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: it's all like our neighbors. So so it's maybe I'll 397 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 1: do a live reaction show. I'm not sure. All right, 398 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: let's talk Steph for a minute. 399 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Shaq said that Steph deserves to be in 400 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 3: the goat conversation. 401 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: Do you think that's a right take to have? 402 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: Sadly no, So let's talk best point guard ever. We've 403 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: done this before, I'll do it again just quickly here. 404 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: Magic Johnson, I believe this in my bones, is the 405 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: greatest point guard in NBA history. And Magic Johnson. It's 406 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: not only that as a rookie one Finals MVP, now 407 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: we shouldn't have Kareem should have won it, but had 408 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: one of the single greatest finals games ever playing center, 409 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: just being utterly dominant to win a championship as a 410 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: rookie right after winning a championship in college. If people 411 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm talking about, the Kareem was out 412 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: so magic jump center as a rookie against Doctor J 413 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: and the Sixers and dropped forty two, fifteen and seven 414 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: to win a championship in the finals. That almost gets 415 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: talked about too much. And what doesn't get talked about enough, 416 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is this demons. In year three, Magic 417 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: Johnson was second team All NBA, and then after that 418 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 1: he played nine more seasons before the HIV diagnosis and 419 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: was first team All NBA all nine seasons. Those nine 420 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: seasons after year three, his MVP finishes were third second 421 00:30:53,920 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: hold sorry third third, second, third, first, third, first, first, second, 422 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: So again, years four to twelve for Magic, nine consecutive 423 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: first team all NBA's nine consecutive top three MVP finishes, 424 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: three league MVPs, went to nine finals, won five championships. 425 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: He's the greatest point guard ever. With that said, every 426 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: time I'm putting together my all time starting five, STEP's 427 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: the better option at point guard than Magic. So I 428 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: know that sounds weird, but whenever it's like, Okay, create 429 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: the greatest team you can possibly create, I'm like, all right, 430 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: So the only two locks, even with respect to Kareem, 431 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: the only two locks are Michael and Lebron. Those guys 432 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: are the locks. And now we're figuring out the rest 433 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: of the squad. And so I go, So Lebron's there, 434 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: he can bring the ball up. I you know, Michael 435 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: couldn't shoot a three to save his life, so I 436 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: probably need some more shooting. Defensively, I'm going to be 437 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: a monster anyway, So I'll put Steph in in place 438 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: of Magic. So that's where the best point guard conversation, 439 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, gets off to a rough start, or not 440 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: a rough start, but it gets complicated. But as far 441 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: as best player of all time, there's a I mean, 442 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: I just told you, Magic has nine First Team All NBAS. 443 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: The guys who are actually in the discussion for greatest 444 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: player of all time, Lebron, Michael, and Kareem, they have 445 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: as far as first team All NBAS thirteen for Lebron, 446 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: ten for Kareem, ten for Michael. Some people throw Kobe 447 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: in there. I don't think that's legit, but that that's fine. 448 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: He has eleven. Steph has four. So he doesn't have 449 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: the the great season after great season after great season 450 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: all these other guys did. Here's the other thing that 451 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: he doesn't have. And again I'm not tearing him down, 452 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: but this if everyone who is actually in the goat debate, 453 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: which I think is only three people, but other people 454 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: might want to expand it to a couple others. And 455 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: even if you expand it to them, if you include Magic, 456 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: if you include Wilt or Russell, like pick whomever, they 457 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: all had an extended period where they were unequivocally, undeniably 458 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 1: the best player in the league. Steph doesn't have one. 459 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: Step doesn't have one season. Now that's again it's like, well, 460 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: it's his whole career is during Lebron's career. I get it, 461 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: But that so you just so you can't be in 462 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: the goat conversation when and you can be like, what 463 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: about the Yearie won unanimous MVP. Yeah, he was going 464 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: to be considered the best player in the league and 465 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: then the finals happened, and so like, there is just 466 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,959 Speaker 1: not been so a spot. I'm not tearing him down. 467 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: You guys know how highly I think of him as 468 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: a player. He is arguable the greatest shooter ever. He 469 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: might be the greatest ball handler ever. He's one of 470 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: the greatest teammates ever. That yeah, but he. 471 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 2: Is the best off ball players I know. 472 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 3: That's not like the exactly the best, the best actually 473 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 3: probably one of the best off ball players. 474 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: In NBA history, I imagine. 475 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the maybe the best. Yes, no, all those 476 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: things really matter, I find to me, Uh, nobody wants 477 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: to have this debate. But an interesting one is him 478 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: versus Duncan, Like it is, it's hard to do, like 479 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: putting up Steph's career versus Duncan, and Steph's career versus Kobe, 480 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: and Steph's career versus Shack are all really interesting because 481 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: those are four so different players, just you know, so 482 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: such drastically different players, different styles, different career arcs like those, 483 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: to me are real debates, But Steph versus Lebron, Michael 484 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: and Kareem are not. She's not and that's fine, that's 485 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: not a It was also weird timing to have this discussion, 486 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: Like Steph was having a down year and the Warriors 487 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: were twenty five and twenty five, and they traded for 488 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: Jimmy and they're, you know, on the uptick, and Steph 489 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: is playing some of his best basketball of the year. 490 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: But this isn't like some magical Steph Curry season. He's not. 491 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: He has no shot of being first team All NBA 492 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: this year. He is. I remember when they traded for Jimmy, 493 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 1: he had as many games with fifteen or fewer points 494 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: as he had thirty plus points. Like, he's averaging the 495 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: fewest points he's averaged in a season since his first MVP, 496 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: so in a decade, and he's averaging below forty from 497 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: three for just the second time of his career. So again, 498 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm not. He's all all that's true, While it's also 499 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: true is he having the greatest old little guy season ever? 500 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: So all those things can be true at the same time, 501 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: But goat conversation now, we're now we're getting a little cuckoo. 502 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: He might show up, however, in our DraftKings player prop 503 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: Who's scoring big in the NBA this season? 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For additional terms 546 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: and responsible game resources, see dk dot co slash b ball. 547 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: All right, Demonse, let's get to Genie Buss's comments. 548 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so she recently opened up about the ad trade 549 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 3: and she said, we have lost the last We have 550 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 3: lost the last three years in a row to the 551 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 3: Denver Nuggets in the playoffs, and we really didn't have 552 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 3: anything that was gonna look different going into the playoffs. Again, 553 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 3: Anthony Davis was complaining about where he was being played 554 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 3: and he wasn't happy. 555 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 2: So I think this is a positive for both teams. 556 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,959 Speaker 1: So I hate this quote so much. 557 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 2: Tell me about it. 558 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,280 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, you're wrong, they have not lost, 559 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: not you, Demonse, She's wrong. Yeah, No, know your playoff history, 560 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: you own the team. You have not lost to the 561 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: Nuggets three years in a row, lost Nuggets two years 562 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: in a row. Likes, I'm not acting like that's awesome, 563 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: but it hasn't been three years in a row you've 564 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: lost to the Nuggets. That's first of all. Second of all, 565 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: we really didn't have anything that was gonna look different. 566 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: Take that, JJ Reddick. I mean, one of the biggest 567 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: things you can do is change your coach. You did. 568 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: You also traded away Di'angelo Russell, who has been an 569 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: unmitigated playoff disaster at second of all, Third of all, 570 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: ad came to the Los Angeles and kicked ass won 571 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: you a championship alongside Lebron And by the way, you 572 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: know what series Anthony Davis brought not probably the best 573 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: playoff series of his career against Denver and Jokic in 574 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: the conference finals when you won the championship, including hitting 575 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 1: a game winning three in a series when he averaged 576 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: thirty one and six en route to a gentleman's sweep 577 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: over the Nuggets. So again, like, I'm not saying she 578 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: was wrong about that We're gonna have trouble with Dinburgh 579 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: in this year. That probably would have been true. Why 580 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: say it? What is the why go after ad like that. 581 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean, here's here's the quote. This is again, this 582 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: is what you need to say. Just my opinion. Yeah, 583 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: if you'd asked me six weeks ago, would we ever 584 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: trade Anthony Davis, my answer publicly would have been absolutely not. 585 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: But my answer even privately to friends would have been, 586 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: I mean not unless Jokichiannis or Luca are available, and 587 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: they're not available. He is one of the greatest players 588 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: in the league. We just signed him to an extension. 589 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: Our plan was to have him take us into the 590 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: post Lebron era whenever that era is as Lebron keeps 591 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: defying Father Time. But when Rob got the phone call 592 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: that we could get one of the only players in 593 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: the entire league who is more accomplished, and I'll say 594 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: it probably better than Anthony, and he's six years younger, 595 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: that's just a move you can't turn down. So no, 596 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: I I was very comfortable and very excited about Anthony 597 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 1: Davis being the face of the Lakers for the next 598 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: half decade. With her, now we have the opportunity to 599 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: have someone be the face of the Lakers for the 600 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,760 Speaker 1: next fifteen years, and so we took it go ahead. 601 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: That's what with her. 602 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 3: It should have been with her saying what she said, 603 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 3: And like, do you think even if Luca wasn't on 604 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 3: the table that there was a chance to think got 605 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 3: rid of Anthony Davis? 606 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: I may, I don't know. She's clearly didn't like that 607 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,720 Speaker 1: ADS quote, the complaining thing about you know, not wanting 608 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: to play center and they need a center, all that stuff. 609 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 1: But deal with it, Like, I just did not like 610 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 1: that quote at all. All. Right, let's go on to 611 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: the MAVs. Demonsey. 612 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so obviously Kyrie towards a c O. Anthony Davis 613 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 3: might be out for even longer. You said that what 614 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 3: Dallas is going through is something that teams really hard, 615 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 3: have a heart, really have Jesus Christ, have a really 616 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,439 Speaker 3: have a really hard time coming back from. 617 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 618 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 3: So with with them repairing that, what do you what 619 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 3: do you think it's going to be harder to repair 620 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 3: the team or its future or the trust and the 621 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 3: fans really really. 622 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tough one tongue twister. So they sold 623 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: shells down by the seashore. 624 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 3: But with one comes another, right obviously, like you repair 625 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 3: the team, you gained the trust of the fans. 626 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 1: That's the thing I don't know. You can't regain the 627 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: trust of the fans without repairing the team. But just 628 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: repairing the team, I don't think we'll regain the trust 629 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: of the fans. So I listen, don't. This is because 630 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: this is private. I guess it's not that private if 631 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm about to say it, but I just don't. I 632 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,280 Speaker 1: don't want to like turn this into like a social clip. 633 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: This thing here, So there's in the chat, Biggie says, Hey, Nick, 634 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: longtime MAVs fan, It's sad. What's happened. I got a 635 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: text yesterday, first text I've gotten from this person since 636 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl. Man, y'all gotta stop talking about 637 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 1: the MAVs. And then the crying laughing emoji from none 638 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: other than Patrick Mahomes. And the reason I say that 639 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: is MAVs fans are so sad. 640 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and. 641 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'll tell you what I text him, But 642 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: he didn't respond. Maybe didn't take it. Well, Bro, you're 643 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 1: just a Laker fan, now, I wrote, I wrote, it'll 644 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: be fine. I never liked the Lakers, but then they 645 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: got bron so now I'm a Laker fan. And now 646 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: they have Luca too. It's glorious. I am. This is. 647 00:46:51,840 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 4: I this has the feel, honest to God of like 648 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 4: a team moving cities. 649 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: What it's done to the fan base out of nowhere. 650 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: And so I people are like, all fire, Nico, Sure fine, 651 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: but the owner co signed all of it. And by 652 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: the way, let me find this statement, Nico Harrison statement 653 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: on Kyrie. So here's what Nico said. So he said, 654 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: Kyrie's the heart and soul of this team is embraced 655 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 1: city of Dallas and our fans as an extension of 656 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: his own family. All fine. I've been fortunate enough to 657 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: have witnessed his journeys, continued evolution and growth over the years. 658 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm incredibly grateful to have the opportunity to see him 659 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: approach the game basketball the same energy and fierce passion 660 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: of the game. He's a young man on the verge 661 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 1: of his career. All fine, there too, and then this 662 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 1: his work, ethic, ethic, and absolute dedication to his craft. 663 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 1: It's cut from the cloth of grapes. I know it, 664 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,720 Speaker 1: I lived it. I see the same ferocity and passion 665 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: in him that I saw in Kobe. Bro. You gotta 666 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 1: stop playing the Kobe card. You just have to we 667 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: get it. You were Kobe's guy at Nike. We understand, 668 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: but you traded Luka because he wasn't Kobe. Kyrie is 669 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 1: gonna be fine at thirty three post acl because he 670 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: is the work ethic of Kobe, by the way, again, 671 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: and I am rooting for Kyrie, Butkoche, even Kobe when 672 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: he was older and he suffered a catastrophic injury, was 673 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: never the same. I'm not hoping that for Kyrie at all. 674 00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: But I just this team is so cooked out of 675 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: nowhere for no reason. I just have never seen anything 676 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: like it, and I feel I truly, I truly feel 677 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: terribly for their fans terribly. 678 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 3: You go out there, you know there was talks of there, Yeah, 679 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 3: there were talks of this being a move for them 680 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 3: to tank the team so they could then be able 681 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,359 Speaker 3: to move to Vegas. Now do you think there's any 682 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 3: truth to that? Do you think that that's possible with 683 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 3: they're given situation? 684 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 2: Now? 685 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Dallas is a top five market. 686 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 1: Vegas is not a big city comparatively like where is 687 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: hold On. Sorry, I'm doing a lot of on the 688 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 1: fly biggest cities in the US. So the Dallas is 689 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 1: so Dallas is the number nine city, but the Dallas 690 00:49:55,320 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: Fort Worth metro is top five, Vegas is number twenty four, 691 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: So that just doesn't make a ton of the NBA 692 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 1: is gonna have a presence in Dallas. So that was 693 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: one of the many reasons this made no sense. That 694 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory and and hold on biggest metro areas let 695 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 1: me do that. I mean, there's nothing is really great 696 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: radio podcasting like this. Yeah, that's what I thought. So 697 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: Dallas Fort Worth Arlington is the number four metro behind 698 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,919 Speaker 1: only New York, LA, Chicago, and Vegas is the number 699 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: twenty nine metro, So that speaks to it even more. 700 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: Shout out Kansity, kans City, number thirty one metro. You 701 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: know we once we used to be like twenty seven 702 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: all on a bit. But that's okay, h going down, 703 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: up and down a bit. Yeah no, that's all right. Yeah, fluctuating, 704 00:50:52,800 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 1: But so that's not gonna happen. But again, if if 705 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: you have made a move that is so catastrophic and 706 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: incomprehensible that folks are like, maybe you're trying to pull 707 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: a Major League on your own team, or I guess 708 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 1: the more common example of it would be for season one, 709 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:28,240 Speaker 1: Ted Lasso on your own team, then you probably should 710 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 1: just resign. And I also want to say one other thing, 711 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: because there's this whole thing that like, oh, Kyrie's workload 712 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the injury. No, obviously it 713 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 1: had something to do with the injury. So he led 714 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 1: the league in Mint's last six weeks, and people were like, well, 715 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,760 Speaker 1: it's not an overuse injury, it's not a soft tissue, 716 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 1: it's a fluke thing. Got it. Even if I concede 717 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 1: that point, here is the very very simple response to that. 718 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: What are the chances you have of getting hit by 719 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 1: a car acrossing the street? Let's call it one in 720 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:20,839 Speaker 1: one hundred. Well, if you normally cross the street fifteen 721 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: times a day and the last six weeks you're crossing 722 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: the street thirty times a day and you get hit 723 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: by a car, is it because you were crossing the 724 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: street more often than usual or was it just a 725 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,280 Speaker 1: fluke thing. Well, I don't know, but you gave yourself 726 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: more opportunity to get hit by the car. Kyrie Irving 727 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,879 Speaker 1: didn't blow out his knee walking his dog. He did 728 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: it playing basketball. And so the more the more you 729 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: play basketball, the more often chance you have an opportunity 730 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: to suffer a basketball injury. And so I'm not saying that, oh, 731 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: Kyrie needed to be low managed to the hilt, but 732 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: of all the players in the league, he was leading 733 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:10,479 Speaker 1: the league in minutes that seemed reckless. And so yeah, 734 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 1: I just don't know what you do if you're Dallas. 735 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: They really do not know what you do if you're Dallas. Fold. 736 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,959 Speaker 1: This is what my buddy, Mike melt you say, fold 737 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 1: the franchise. I don't know, man, All right, let's let's 738 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 1: go fastest. 739 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you did this this the season debut of 740 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 3: King of the Hill. On your show the other day, 741 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 3: you said that Jokich is clearly the best player in 742 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 3: the NBA. 743 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 2: So why as you and Vegas giving Shaye the MVP. 744 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 1: H His best player doesn't win MVP every year. Lebron 745 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: didn't have fourteen of them. You know, Jordan doesn't have 746 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: eight of them. The Yo Kicch is the best player. 747 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: Shaye's having the best season, So like it's It's not 748 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: like I didn't say Yokic was having the best year. 749 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:06,280 Speaker 1: Shay's having the best year and he right now deserves MVP. 750 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: And he had another great game last night. That to 751 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 1: me is like a and a not a complicated one 752 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,839 Speaker 1: that just being the best player in the league does 753 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 1: not mean that every year you had the best season. 754 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 1: And I'll say another thing. Each MVP is harder to 755 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 1: win than the last. The threshold to win your first 756 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: MVP is here, the threshold to win your second MVP 757 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: is here, the threshold to win your third MVP is 758 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: very high. And the threshold to win four or five 759 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:49,399 Speaker 1: or six is astronomical. And so Jokis is sitting at 760 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: three and so even though he's gonna average a triple 761 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 1: double as a sinner because his team right now is 762 00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 1: the three seed and Shay's team is gonna win sixty 763 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: seven games, and Shay's gonna win the scoring title, right 764 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: He's gonna win the scoring title, Indney, That's gonna be enough. Yeah, 765 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's gonna win the scoring title by 766 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: a lot. It's thirty two point eight points per game. So, yeah, Shay, 767 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: Shay's having the best year. Jokich is the best player. 768 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 1: What I'm interested in the MVP thing is Lebron gonna 769 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 1: finish top five. I Lebron finished top five and age 770 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 1: forty right, so right now, Demon's Shay Yo Kicic there's 771 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 1: my ballot, Shay Jokicic, Giannis Tatum, that's my four. That 772 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 1: fifth spot, it's either Bron or Donovan. Donovan's team has 773 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 1: been unreal. Lebron's got better numbers across the board than Donovan. 774 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:54,359 Speaker 5: Like. 775 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,879 Speaker 1: And then here's the other thing. Here's the other thing. 776 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:06,399 Speaker 1: I hated, hated that the NBA changed All NBA to positionless. 777 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: Should be two guards too forwards in a center. 778 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:14,800 Speaker 5: I hated it might help out my guy Bron this year, though, Yeah, 779 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 5: because if it were two guards too forwards in a center, 780 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 5: then All. 781 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: NBA is done. It's Jokic as your center, Jannison Tatum 782 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: as your forwards, Shayan Donovan as your guards. But since 783 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: it's positionless, could Bron take Donovan's spot on first team 784 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 1: All NBA. Maybe? By the way, sorry, Lebron. James in 785 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 1: year two at age twenty, was second team All NBA. No, 786 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, year two, age twenty, second team All NBA, 787 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 1: almost first team All NBA. Year twenty two, age forty, 788 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: probably gonna be second team All NBA, almost first team 789 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,719 Speaker 1: All NBA. It's unbelievable. All right, before we're gonna do 790 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 1: some quick hitter NFL stuff and answer your questions. But first, 791 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 1: this episode of What's Right is brought to you by 792 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: DAYA Pizza featuring dairy free cheese made with their new 793 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,919 Speaker 1: DAYA oat Cream Blend. Dairy free cheese come a long way, 794 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: and DAYA is leading the charge. 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Nobody. 816 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 3: I've been checking my email, obviously, I've been checking. No, 817 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to Key on Sunday, though, We're gonna we're 818 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 3: gonna talk about something. 819 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 1: So I was gonna say, you're it's coming up, Wind's 820 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: coming up. 821 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you coming see it's it's I've got I've got 822 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 3: like a week and a half. 823 00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 2: But I'm going something. 824 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 1: You've now shifted the power back to them a bit. Really, 825 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 1: what do you mean to tell you? 826 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 3: Well, hey, I will tell them I'm the same thing 827 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 3: that you were telling me that I would never do. 828 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 3: Hopefully the Key dealership doesn't watched the pod, but I 829 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 3: will tell you. 830 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's keep this. Let's keep this let's let's keep. 831 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, is is King of the Hill 832 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 3: basically just Club Superstar with more sections? 833 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: No, it's Mahomes Mountain. But for basketball, all. 834 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,280 Speaker 2: Right, you want to make it. I wanted to make 835 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 2: it some type of fun. 836 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 3: So alright, no, why it's just get it's more NBA players. 837 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 3: I thought you guys were expanding on the on the 838 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 3: Club Superstar. 839 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 1: Club Superstar is very specific because it's a one in, 840 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 1: one out policy and there's it's it's not it's not 841 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 1: just about how you played this year, like it there is, 842 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's so as a for instance. 843 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 2: But how you played this year could get you taken 844 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,439 Speaker 2: out right or some. 845 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Guys, but like Steph Curry's Superstar, he would have to 846 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 1: have like a truly horrendous year to be out. And 847 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 1: I can't even I'm not even gonna say the idea 848 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 1: of Lebron not being in there and so like, so 849 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 1: it's a different thing. Let's quickly do the Chiefs, all right. 850 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 3: So there's no secret that the Chiefs cannot protect their 851 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 3: quarterback in the Super Bowl. So they made a pretty 852 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 3: odd move. They're moving Joe Dooney to the Beer to 853 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 3: the Bears for a fourth round pick. 854 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 2: Did this move shack. 855 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 1: You, no, because once once they franchised Tag Tray Smith 856 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 1: their right guard, they were clearly gonna have to move 857 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 1: on from Tony. So they have the highest paid center 858 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 1: in the league. They currently have the highest paid guard 859 01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: in the league, and Toney would have been the second 860 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 1: his paid card in the league. You can't have like, 861 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,920 Speaker 1: you just can't spend your money that way, and so 862 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 1: I listen, these are the tough decisions you have to 863 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 1: make if you're just gonna try to keep a dynasty going. Tone, 864 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 1: he's still a really good player, but he's thirty two 865 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 1: years old, he's expensive. You get now, you get a 866 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: young draft pick again a year from now at a 867 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 1: draft capital what they're probably they took Kingsleys Suamataya in 868 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 1: the second round last year to play tackle. He did 869 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 1: not play it well. They will probably kick him over 870 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: to guard. Listen, if you are trying to have a 871 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: sustained level of success that only the Patriots and NFL 872 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 1: history have had, you've got to make these tough decisions, 873 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 1: and you've got to get real playing time from your 874 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: draft picks. So you can't like Kingsley's got to play 875 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: this next year. It just is what it is. And also, yes, 876 01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 1: good for Caleb. So they got they signed a tackles 877 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 1: or they traded for a tackle. I forget the name, 878 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 1: but they traded for a tackle. They traded for Tony. 879 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 1: They're rebuilding their offensive line. All right. Let reminder like rate, subscribe, review, 880 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 1: do all that stuff. And also, yeah, do it now 881 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 1: because maybe at one am Eastern I'm gonna pop on 882 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 1: and talk about the Lakers tonight. Let's do a few 883 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 1: listener questions. 884 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 3: Demanse Riley says, the stories like the around the Horn 885 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 3: story and the moments you have with Colin are the 886 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,919 Speaker 3: intangibles that make us us as fans come back. 887 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:35,400 Speaker 1: That's very nice. I appreciate that. That's very nice. All right, 888 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 1: thank you, Riley. 889 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 2: Let's keep going, Trunks lifelong MAVs fan. 890 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 3: At least I was, man, the lack of awareness that 891 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 3: this new ownership group and front office just makes makes 892 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 3: sports seem less fun and more of a business, which 893 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 3: it is. 894 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 2: I'm out now, no. 895 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 1: Point, Well listen, don't be out, man, But I get 896 01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:01,959 Speaker 1: the pain of this. I can't imagine. Like I said 897 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 1: to Wilde's yesterday, I was like, if the Hunt family 898 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: sold the Chiefs and a new ownership group came in. 899 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 1: I would have a lot of worries, but one of 900 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: them would not be what if these guys trade Mahomes? 901 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 1: Like I would be worried about a bunch of stuff, 902 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 1: but trading Mahomes wouldn't be on there. So when Cubans 903 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 1: sold the MAVs, I'm sure some MAVs fands were like, 904 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,080 Speaker 1: oh boy, he was a hell of an owner. He 905 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 1: was invested all this stuff. But I don't think they 906 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 1: were ever thought what if they trade Luca? Now, maybe 907 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 1: they were worried Luca might demand a trade. That's the 908 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 1: other piece of this. I think it is way easier 909 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 1: to deal with if Luca demands the trade, way easier 910 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 1: because then A, you don't probably love Luca as much anymore, 911 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 1: and B you're like, well, there's nothing we could do. 912 01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 1: And so that that to me, is that is what 913 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 1: it seems like, right, That's what makes it just impossible. 914 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's do the next one. 915 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 3: Isaac asked after Mahomes, Alan and Burrow, which two players 916 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 3: round off your top five players to start a franchise with. 917 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 1: I don't know that I would have Burrow third. I 918 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 1: think Burrow's Jayden's interesting. I was this will shock you. 919 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:31,760 Speaker 1: I was gonna say Lamar, Yeah, yeah, because like my 920 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 1: playoff concerns with Lamar, notwithstanding he's such a transcendent regular 921 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 1: season player and available and all that stuff. I'm you know, 922 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 1: Burrow's injury stuff is and slow starts you know, are 923 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 1: to me mahomes Alan Lamar Burrow, and then I you know, 924 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: I obviously would love to say kylea but that's not 925 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 1: a legitimate opinion right now. You'd have to say you'd 926 01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,919 Speaker 1: probably have to say Jayden h as the fifth guy, 927 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:05,240 Speaker 1: given what they've both done in the pros. I'm trying 928 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 1: to think if there's anybody that's a fun producers, mark 929 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 1: that down for a good August or July conversation, Like 930 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 1: the best guys at other positions as well, non quarterbacks 931 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 1: start franchise with all that. I like that conversation. Isaac, 932 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,520 Speaker 1: Good job you're out producing the show, all right, Great job, 933 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,919 Speaker 1: Demanse a great job to everyone at Volume and Blue Dock, 934 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 1: all everybody helping out with today's show. Thought it looked 935 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 1: and sounded great. Maybe I'll be on again in twelve hours. 936 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Also, Demons have you talked to your mom? Like, 937 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 1: do you know what her travel plans are? I do? 938 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 3: I mean I didn't learn until Monday or Tuesday, So yeah, 939 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 3: I thought, yeah. 940 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,600 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah. So the reason I mentioned this is my wife, 941 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 1: Demanday's mom is going to LA and the also, so 942 01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 1: she I said to her real quick, and then we'll 943 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 1: move on. Then we'll in the show said. So I said, 944 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,520 Speaker 1: we're this morning, and I should have known better. I 945 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 1: was like, so, where are you staying in l A? 946 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 1: And she just turned to me and looked at me 947 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,480 Speaker 1: like I had two heads. She was like, you haven't 948 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 1: booked my hotel yet? Like no, I she said. She said, wait, 949 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't have a hotel or rental car yet. I'm like, no, 950 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 1: you haven't asked me to do any of that stuff. 951 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 1: She was like, you know you need to do. 952 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 3: Sore the assistant, But yeah, I mean, if it worse 953 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,320 Speaker 3: comes to worse, I have a I have a car, 954 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,200 Speaker 3: might not have a car here soon, and I have 955 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 3: a place. 956 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,320 Speaker 1: Oh well, that's what I was about to say. I was, 957 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 1: could you imagine your mom's sleeping on your couch. 958 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 2: It would be me sleeping on the couch. But yeah, 959 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 2: I mean I could not. 960 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but either way you wouldn't act, would allow it, 961 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,920 Speaker 1: You would be a great allow it your mother your 962 01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 1: mother would not. All right, great job. Everybody see you 963 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 1: eyes on TV. In a few hours. Will train