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Speaker 2: It was a dog fight.

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Speaker 1: We looked at you guys like they could probably beat

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Speaker 2: Hans kickoffs. I was going off of this game. It's

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Speaker 3: I think people remember where they were talking about the

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Speaker 2: That needed me on that play.

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Speaker 3: He started getting knocked backwards on a QB sneak and

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Speaker 3: I just shove his ass and.

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Speaker 1: Then he does some little kind of look like a

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Speaker 2: I pitched it to him and then the last.

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Speaker 3: Lock of mind is like, I can't believe I just

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Speaker 3: did that in the National Championship.

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Speaker 2: So going back to the debate, could you guys beat

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Speaker 1: to Games with Names, ed by Win Bet. On today's episode,

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Speaker 1: we are talking Fresno State versus USC from the two

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Speaker 1: and the greatest college running backs of all time his list, Well,

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Speaker 3: November nineteen, two thousand and five, LA Coliseum, Los Angeles, California.

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Speaker 2: The quest for perfection was on the line.

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Speaker 3: At the Coliseum, Reggie Bush delivered a performance for the

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Speaker 3: ages kept title hopes alive.

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Speaker 2: This is Fresno State versus USC. I love it.

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Speaker 1: As you guys heard, we have a special special insane

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Speaker 1: guest a friend, a guy that I've let me. He

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Speaker 1: He let you know, when I was nobody, he let

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Speaker 1: me come hang out with him in his heyday. One

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Speaker 1: of the greatest running backs of all time. You know what,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy if you ask anyone, And I was just

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Speaker 1: talking about this. Whenever we talk to any of my

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Speaker 1: NFL friends, I'm not talking like my little slap dig

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Speaker 1: high school friends. I'm talking about straight NFL ballers. Whenever

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Speaker 1: we all talk about college football, it's never even an argument.

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Speaker 1: The best football player they all talk about is Reggie Bush.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate that, man, Thank you, Bro. I appreciate it. And

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Speaker 2: it's it's dead ass truth.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you ask anyone, because it could be

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Speaker 1: our recency, because this is our generation and we're like

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: This USC teams with Reggie and White and just everything.

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Speaker 1: You're a right hand guy, you know what's crazy? I

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Speaker 3: Always absolutely And I think that's such an important thing

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Speaker 2: You got a guy's man a man, I'm attacking him.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting I'm doing my steps out and then I'm

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Speaker 1: we're talking about, folks, A little high level. Let's get back, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's get back to Helix High School in San Diego, sir. Now,

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Speaker 1: there were always these talks. And this was back before

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Speaker 2: I don't know, bro, I don't know where that came from.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I swear I Q. I was like what I listen?

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Speaker 3: I was just I had questions, just like you.

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Speaker 2: Probably he don't even seem like that, ain't you guy?

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Speaker 2: He doesn't that a pow that's how you got I

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Speaker 2: I watched the whole thing him and Rex jumped on him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I tell you right now, he's so funny for TV Rex.

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Speaker 1: I went out and it was right after they beat

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Speaker 1: I hated him until I met him.

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Speaker 2: I met him.

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Speaker 1: He was like the coost dude, drinking beers, taking shots

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Speaker 2: Shit, bro guys. He one of the guys. He's one

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Speaker 3: And you know it's I have my different takes on

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Speaker 2: It all matters everything.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, and so again, I love Rex,

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Speaker 3: And we had there was no control over the team.

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Speaker 3: Rex got fired like after week, like I don't know

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Speaker 2: I mean, Brady just putting another one out in the pasture, Bro, Exactly,

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Speaker 1: It's a shitty ass AFCs that designed the team. Literally

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Speaker 1: Tom had to have teams that were designed to try

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Speaker 1: Miami was always really kind of they always had those years.

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Speaker 2: The Jets always came in. They beat our ass a

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Speaker 3: Yeah they had Brown the Wildcat, the Wildcat.

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Speaker 2: They were destroying people. They whooped.

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Speaker 1: But even a couple of those Tannehill teams they went

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Speaker 3: So we know that the AFC was not weak, especially

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Speaker 3: like there's no such thing as Alex.

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Speaker 2: You're not that guy. That's not you, Powell. Oh you

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Speaker 2: ain't that guy. I don't know, man, I don't want

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Speaker 2: that smoke with to go. No, no, no, no, he

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Speaker 1: To stick to commercials. Come on, man, is how was

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Speaker 1: that high school? See, let's get how was that high school?

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Speaker 1: How was high school football in San Diego? I never

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Speaker 2: It was?

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Speaker 3: It was competitive, it was good Man. High school football

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Speaker 2: School, we didn't lose it. We didn't lose any games.

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Speaker 3: Alex was our quarterback and every position, at every position

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00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 3: on our football team, we had speed. And that's one

440
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 3: of the things I loved about playing at the high

441
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 3: school level was love of our athletes.

442
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 2: That played receiver, running back, safety, corners.

443
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 3: They all ran track and so we had a bunch

444
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 3: of a bunch of track guys you know also, but

445
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 3: football players who also ran track and they just had speed,

446
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 3: and so we were really good, were really fast. We

447
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 3: didn't lose, like I said, any games. We ran the

448
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 3: football a lot and it wasn't until like around I

449
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 3: think my junior year, Alex just started balling right and

450
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 3: that's when he started to We started to throw the

451
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 3: football a lot more. We kind of spread the offense

452
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 3: out more and ran more of a West Coast true

453
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 3: style offense.

454
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 2: Before that, I don't know if you remember.

455
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: Before before that, I got the misdirection run and shoot,

456
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 3: yeah it was te wing tea.

457
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: That was it wing tea.

458
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 3: So we ran the wing tea for like the first

459
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 3: two years and then we transitioned more into this West

460
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 3: Coast spread out offense and that's when Alex just took

461
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 3: off and started throwing the football a lot more. But

462
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 3: the again, the high school football scene in San Diego

463
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 3: is really strong.

464
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 2: Man. A bunch of military kids.

465
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 3: Nah, there's not a bunch of not a bunch of

466
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 3: I know you. But because of the basin, yeah, I.

467
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: Just wondering maybe you got some tough ass like military kids.

468
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 3: As far as I know, as far as I came across. No,

469
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 3: there wasn't you know, a bunch of military kids. But

470
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 3: you know, I grew up in the era of watching guys.

471
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 3: You know, Ricky Williams is from my neighborhood, Marcus Allen, Threll, Davis,

472
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 3: Shom Saloon Rest in peace. Sam Salon was one of

473
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 3: the I think still the only running back and player

474
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 3: to win the Heisman Trophy from University of Colorado. And

475
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 3: so we had just in my area alone for Heisman

476
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: Trophy winning running backs and some Hall of famers. Junior

477
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 3: sal was from San Diego. He was the biggest. And

478
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: that's who idolized growing up was.

479
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: We all did anyone from California, anybody from but especially

480
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 2: from San Diego.

481
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 3: Though. When you were from San Diego and you played

482
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: football or you played baseball, you idolized Junior South or

483
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 3: Tony Gwyn those were our two guys. And so for

484
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 3: me growing up, I used to go to this kids

485
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 3: football camp that a guy named Martin Bayless used to

486
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 3: put on. Martin Bayles playing in the NFL for a

487
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 3: number of years, about ten plus years, and he used

488
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 3: to always do this kids football camp and every year

489
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: me and my boys, it was like the highlight of

490
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 3: our summers. We get to go to this kids and

491
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: we get a chance to meet a NFL football player.

492
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: And every year Junior Sale would show up and he

493
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: would spend a little time with the kids. Man, and

494
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 3: I got a chance to meet him, and it was

495
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 3: just like it literally was like looking at like God,

496
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like the God of football,

497
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 3: and he was larger than life, just had a great personality.

498
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: I played with him in New England and so let

499
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 3: me take bringing full circle. I get drafted, go to

500
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 3: the NFL. After my first season, I come back home

501
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 3: to say they go to host my first kids football camp,

502
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: and Junior Sale came to it, Bro and it was

503
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 3: just like a full circle moment, you know, just just

504
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 3: seeing him come to my camp and just you know,

505
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: having spent some time with him. Man, you know, there

506
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 3: was nobody better when he was at when he was

507
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: at his prime, you know what I'm saying, Nobody at all.

508
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: And so for me growing up watching those guys, it

509
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 3: was a real treat because I got a chance to

510
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 3: see guys from my area do it and do it

511
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 3: at the highest level, and that gave me all the

512
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 3: confidence in the world that Okay, I can go do

513
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: this too.

514
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, is there something in the water?

515
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: I think so? Man, you hear that list?

516
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know, again like just from my area alone,

517
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: and I mean like a like a fifty mile radius. Yeah,

518
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 3: like all those guys grew up grew up in that area, man,

519
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: not Junior st.

520
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 2: I was a little bit more north. Yeah, all the

521
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: other running backs all from my area. That's crazy. Junior was,

522
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: I mean unbelievable.

523
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 3: And Ricky Williams was. He was the man coming out

524
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 3: of San Diego. And you know, as big as he

525
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 3: was in the NFL, he was at the same size

526
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 3: in high school. Imagine like this dude, he's a tank

527
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: tank just running over people. Man, And it was just

528
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: it was just not fair. You know, it wasn't fair.

529
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 3: But shout out to Ricky Williams, man. You know, he's

530
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 3: one of another goat from from my area that did

531
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 3: it before me, show me, paved a way for me

532
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 3: and showed me that I could that it was possible.

533
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 2: I had we had Ricky on here. He he is

534
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: a gem dude.

535
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he got a raw deal man while he

536
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 3: was in the league. You know, he's a pioneer. Everything

537
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 3: that's different. At first, everyone.

538
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: Hate exactly exactly exactly man, and so you know.

539
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: But even to his like he's such a good dude,

540
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: where like he goes like you could say that narrative

541
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: like that and he'd be like, yeah, you know, it

542
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: just it was just a little too early before it's time,

543
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, or like you know, the whole what's his name, apple.

544
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 2: Wood, Yeah, the whole situation.

545
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: So you know that he explained it on ours and

546
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 3: he goes, yeah, you know, it's not his fault.

547
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: He was banging my girl. You know she was hot. Yeah,

548
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: like he's he said, I can't blame him. I can't

549
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: blame ye. That's what he said.

550
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: He's just I'm like, dude, I need your perspective all

551
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: the time.

552
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 2: Now.

553
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: Talking about college goats from that area, how did like

554
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: Junior say out, did he influence you to like with

555
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: the USC thing or is that just because so cow

556
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: you go to USC?

557
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 3: Well there was I think there was, you know, an influencer.

558
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 3: I think it was more Marcus Allen that influenced me

559
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 3: because again I looked up to Junior, but Marcus Allen

560
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: was from my neighborhood. He grew up in my area,

561
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: played running back, played the position, went to USC. You

562
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Hall of Fame career in the NFL.

563
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: So it was really more guys like Marcus Allen and

564
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 3: Trell Davis, Mishon Solom and Ricky Williams that influenced me

565
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 3: heavily because again these are guys that played my position

566
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 3: from my neighborhood, one Heisman trophies and then also had

567
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: you know, amazing careers going forward. So you know, those

568
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: are the guys that kind of influenced me. You know

569
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: while I was you know, in high school, you commit,

570
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 3: you go to USC. Yeah, your first year you.

571
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: Didn't really Yeah, I didn't play a whole lot my

572
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: first They were just kind of working you in because

573
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: they were still I mean, they were doing the thing.

574
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 2: They wasn't ready for me yet, you know what I'm saying.

575
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: Because my freshman year I could have my freshman year,

576
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 3: I could have went off too, you know what i mean.

577
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: But we had some guys that were ahead of me,

578
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: Herschel Dennis and we and we had a and this

579
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 3: other thing. Like I said, we had three five star

580
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 3: running backs that came. It was me, Lindelle White and

581
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 3: Chauncey Washington, and then we had Herschel Dennis in front

582
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: of us, who was from Long Beach Polly, who also

583
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: was a five star running back, you know what I'm saying.

584
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: And so in HD Herschel Dennis.

585
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 3: He he was, as you know, really big coming from

586
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: Long Beach Poly because you remember, Polly was putting out

587
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: D one athletes. Polly consistently every year, like five, ten,

588
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 3: fifteen guys, you know, and all these guys will go

589
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: to the NFL. So Polly was as big as it

590
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 3: got in LA from a football standpoint. And so when

591
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: I got to USC, I right away felt the sense

592
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: of urgency that I got to get on this football

593
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: field and I got to get to work because there's

594
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: a bunch of guys here, all great players, and I

595
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: got to figure out my niche.

596
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: I gotta figure out what's gonna work for me.

597
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: And so that's part of the reason why I started

598
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: returning kicks pints, not started.

599
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: Sorry, I did that. I did that in high school.

600
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: But that's one of the reasons why I kept that

601
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 3: going when I got to college. And I didn't just

602
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: abandon it because I was like, I gotta find other

603
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: ways to get this football on mind.

604
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: Creating value, folks, that's what it's called for young players.

605
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: That's what I had to do too.

606
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 1: You know, if you're not great at one thing quite yet,

607
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: like you have to be the man where you don't

608
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: have to do anything else. There's only like three of

609
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: those guys, four of those guys on the team, then

610
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: you have to If you're not that guy, then you

611
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: got to get really good at a bunch of things.

612
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: Yep, you know.

613
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: And the more you get good at, the more value

614
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: you create for yourself to the team. And that's I mean,

615
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean it suited you because once you got to

616
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: the league, I mean you were still non stop monster

617
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: behind punts, kickoffs.

618
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: And that's why I tell you know a lot of guys,

619
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: you know, young guys too, man at the college level,

620
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: do more. Don't just go in there and be like

621
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: I'm only gonna play running back or I'm only gonna

622
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: play you know, a receiver.

623
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: If you're go play X, go play in the slot.

624
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

625
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: Go go return some punts and kicks and see where

626
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: it takes you. You never know, it could be part

627
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: of your purpose and your calling at the next level.

628
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: And it could make you exponentially more money as well

629
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: at the next level. Cordell Patterson exactly.

630
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 3: Cordel Patterson still playing drafted, top ten, returning kicks, returning kicks,

631
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: running back. He started doing that with us. He's a monster.

632
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: He's like he just reminds you of like an elk.

633
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: He's just so big, a big ass elk, but he

634
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: can run. Now when so year two comes? In year two,

635
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: when was the moment where you walked on campus? It

636
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: was the last When was the moment where like it

637
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: was the last time you could like walk around campus

638
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: because I'm sure you were getting mobbed everywhere? So what

639
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: was what was the game before the mobbing started?

640
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: Hap?

641
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: Uh?

642
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: You know, honestly, it didn't really get crazy.

643
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: And again when I say crazy, it wasn't like you

644
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: were mobbed everywhere you went on campus, right, people who

645
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 3: saw you, like people had stuff to do, kids that

646
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: they got shit to do, They got classes to go to,

647
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: they got essays, midterms. So it wasn't as big on campus,

648
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: like the mob rushing you trying to get your autograph

649
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: and pictures. But at our games it was like that

650
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: because we had every celebrity known to mankind on the sidelines,

651
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And so that was where

652
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: the stars studied lights, camera action, Hollywood look and feel,

653
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: you know, infused into college football.

654
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: That's where all that happened when we were on college campus.

655
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there were people who came up to

656
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: us assence for autographs and pictures and stuff like that,

657
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: but it was not like a mob.

658
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 2: It was not like that.

659
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: And so I love that about USC because because again,

660
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: like you know, people obviously they were hardcore football fans,

661
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: but also people just kind of left you alone too,

662
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And whenever, if we went

663
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: to the parties, then maybe yeah, it could maybe get

664
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: like that.

665
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: You aren't going to parties, You're going to like hide

666
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: and shit, he going to the clubs eighteen years old

667
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: in there, you know, Josh Job.

668
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: Joh Well just had us up in the clubs. Brot.

669
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: What was your first impression of Pete Carroll? Did he

670
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: have a huge pack of gum? How big was his

671
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: pack of gum?

672
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: My first impression? Uh?

673
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: So I first met Pete when he came to my

674
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: high school. Obviously a big deal. Pete Carroll's company to

675
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: Helix High School to do some scouting, you know, to

676
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: watch me. And you know, when I first met him,

677
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: you know, I was, I was excited, but you know,

678
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: I thought he was just you know, a regular coach,

679
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: a good guy. He had a great personality, and he

680
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: was energetic. Always brought a lot of energy to the conversations,

681
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: to practices, to the film rooms, to team meetings and

682
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: stuff like that. And so I love the fact that

683
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: he brought that youthful to the game because as you know, man,

684
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: football is stressful enough, you know what I'm saying, And

685
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: it's more stressful when you losing, you know what I'm saying.

686
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: And it's more stressful when.

687
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: The environment is not on par with you know, trying

688
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: to win and trying to accomplish the same goals and

689
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: you're not having fun.

690
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: And so I've been in those environments before.

691
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: I've been on some teams, you know, at the NFL

692
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: level where you know, it just wasn't fun, you know

693
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And so you know, I always loved

694
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: the fact that Pete brought the youthfulness, the youthfulness to

695
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: the team. And then he would bring you know, a

696
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: bunch of celebrities. Snoop Dogg was at our practices running

697
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: routes with the receivers and Will Ferrell looking looking tall. Yeah,

698
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: Will Ferrell would be out there, you know, And it

699
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: was just it was amazing, man, because again I thought

700
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: Pete did a masterful job at.

701
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: Being able to bring Hollywood and football together, you know.

702
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: And that's the thing that USC offers that no other

703
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: university can offer, is you have both of these two

704
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: worlds where if you can bring them together and win,

705
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: forget about it. It's like the Lakers, you know what I'm saying.

706
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I just moved out here, and you can

707
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: feel the presence of three organizations here, the Dodgers, the Lakers,

708
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: and USC. We're starting to get a kiss of the Rams.

709
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: But they gotta still build, Yeah, I gotta, they gotta.

710
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: But like people around here love sc they love.

711
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: Both up baby, both up A Chargers.

712
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: Chargers. I thought they're in San Diego.

713
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 1: Still aren't they aren't They Come on, man.

714
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: Hey man, listen.

715
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: As a San Diego homegrown native, I hate seeing seeing

716
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 3: the Chargers not being say they got to.

717
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: Get it back there, huh. I don't know what's up

718
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 1: with the city, the city or is the owners?

719
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: Who is it? I don't it's I I think is

720
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: from what I don't know the true facts. In fact,

721
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: we don't fact churn.

722
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: Anything out there, but from out of her it's just

723
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 3: the two parties just are clashing heads and nobody wants

724
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 3: to give.

725
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure it all comes down comes down

726
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: to money as always, you know, usually the bottom line.

727
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: And you know, I think what I've heard is that

728
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: the city didn't want to fund, you know, the stadium,

729
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: which you know, we know stadiums cost a lot of money.

730
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,479
Speaker 2: And but also at the same time, it's like why

731
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: not you know, super Bowls there would be nice I mean,

732
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 2: take a visit, you know, vacation.

733
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: To San die you know how much economic stimulus you

734
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: get super Bowl. And with the World Cup comes here,

735
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: they probably, hey, we'llt throw a game out there, a

736
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: little qualifier.

737
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 2: Bro dust off qualcom baby, dude, I love playing there.

738
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 2: That good grass man. Listen that stadium the old as hell.

739
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: They need to blow that thing up, Bill somebud.

740
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 3: Speaking of old as hell, this is a segment where

741
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 3: we go back in time of November nineteen, two thousand

742
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: and five, the time and era of what was going

743
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: on pop culture of this game Number one movie was

744
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 3: Harry Potter.

745
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: Well, Harry Potter movie. My god, you guys see it

746
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: was Harry Potter. A casual, I was casual. I just

747
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: started getting into it because my daughter likes it.

748
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 3: I've seen some clips. I haven't sat through an entire

749
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: Harry Potter movie though, Yeah, I've seen the first three.

750
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: We're gonna start reading. She likes that wizardy stuff. And

751
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: then we went to that universal thing. They got the

752
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: little wands that you could do the magic with.

753
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: Number one song we all know this one, gold Digger

754
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: by Kanye West and Jamie FOXX.

755
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: That's a long long time ago. Oh that was a

756
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 2: great song. That was That was a good one. We got,

757
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: we got.

758
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: We probably should move on from this slide right now.

759
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: But there's what's up with our guy?

760
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 4: Is he?

761
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: Is he in trouble? Jamie fox now sick? He was sick? Right? Yeah,

762
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: he's doing better. I think is he back? I hope?

763
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: So we need him. He's a gem. Yeah, he's my dog.

764
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 2: Amount of out. He's cool. No, he's good. He's he's good.

765
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: Now he's healthy. That's good. Around this time, Harvard bt

766
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: Yale in a triple overtime.

767
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: On this day and Miami number three in the nation,

768
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 4: went down to Georgia Tech.

769
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: So another upset is this football Harvard.

770
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is Harvard Yale. Baby, we're talking to somebody

771
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 4: talking Harvard Yale.

772
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 3: Love.

773
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: It got to be honest. I've never watched the Harvard

774
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 2: Yale football. I don't think I have either.

775
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of a big I lived in Boston,

776
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: so it's a big It's a pretty big deal out there.

777
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: I mean it's the oldest I think it's the oldest

778
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: rival in football. Oh really, I.

779
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: Think it's the first Princeton, Princeton Rutgers. Yeah, Princeton and

780
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: who Rutgers Rutgers Stadium, oldest stadium in the country. Yeah,

781
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: that's crazy. You got to give a shout out to

782
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: the Olds. Yeah, the old IVY League.

783
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: Probably we'll be working for those people.

784
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: They all own companies now and executives. Yeah, firms.

785
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: I mean we're on our phone, they own all of it. Yeah,

786
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: Google Baseball, Xbox three sixty was released. Xbox guy, big week.

787
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 2: PlayStation he PlayStation station guy. Baby, Come on, So this

788
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: is how I break it down.

789
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Ever since I went to college, this is who

790
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: has Xbox and who doesn't and just in all my friends,

791
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: all my international friends, people from Europe PlayStation, all my

792
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: black friends PlayStation, all my like nerdy white friends, Xbox

793
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: or PC. I swear to god, is that not the breakdown?

794
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: Is that not the breakdown? International people love PlayStation.

795
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. All my black friends they all played

796
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: two k on PS five.

797
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 3: I had no homies that had Xboxes, none PlayStation.

798
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: I think this theory checks out full proof.

799
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: But I was an Xbox guy, nerd nerd.

800
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: Oh.

801
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: The CFL Gray Cup went into overtime the first time

802
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: in forty four years.

803
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: Weird football games this week?

804
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: Man, I almost went to the BC Lions. I got

805
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: drafted to really Lions. They want me to play quarterback

806
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: out of college? Why you didn't take it?

807
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 3: I didn't grow up trying to be in a CFL

808
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: and I want to go to the NFL.

809
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: It was like it was like, so instead of bases

810
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: like fifty grand to be on the team, one hundred

811
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: grand if you're the starter, another hundred Like that's how

812
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: those contracts were.

813
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 2: It was gnarly. I took my talents to Fox. Yeah

814
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: you did the right. The first partial face transplant, Damn

815
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: science talk? Was it this lady right here. Yeah, she

816
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: don't look too bad. Face off by a dog? When

817
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 2: was the movie Face Off? Nicolas Cage?

818
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: She got bit by a dog? Yeah, damn dogs. I

819
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: got bit by a dog once, too, did you?

820
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? What kind? I love dogs, though, but dogs will

821
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 2: bite your ass if you run up on the wrong one. Yeah.

822
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: Real, Mine was a rock roller in my hand. I

823
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: was in I was in high school and I wanted.

824
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: To see you know what. I I don't like dogs.

825
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: I love my dog. Yeah, you know, because I know

826
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: I know what my dog's about. You don't know what

827
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: these people are doing behind closed doors with their dogs.

828
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: And it's not the doggie's fault. It's a goddamn owner.

829
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: It's a goddamn owner. Why don't you go sit in

830
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: the mirror. It's not your dog's fault, it's you. However

831
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: your dog acts, it's a reflection of how you're training

832
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: or doing something with him. You go, see my dog,

833
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: he wipes his feet off because it comes in this

834
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: goddamn house.

835
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 2: Not when you're not here. I know he's getting terrible.

836
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: This, I'll tell you the biggest If you want to

837
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: go to a place and you want to see whose

838
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 3: dogs are well trained versus whose dogs are not well trained.

839
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: Go to a dog park. Oh you go to dog park.

840
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: I swear to god, I've seen some dogs literally like

841
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 3: gang fights.

842
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: A bunch of dogs just starting a big as a

843
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: gang fight. Like goddamn what uh thug dogs we got, dude?

844
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: Dog park community life should be a TV show. It

845
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 2: really should. It really should.

846
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: The people like I have a dog park, I go

847
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: to around here where I live, and you see the

848
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: people and like, some people are so smug, like, oh

849
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: you have your dog off uncertain it like it's like

850
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: they judge you and ship. Like I'm rolling over the

851
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: fucking white tank top a white beater. If I get

852
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: some Corteses and ship, let my little labberdoodle just run around.

853
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 2: These people are like judging me. I'm like, I get

854
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: the fuck out of here.

855
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: Heisman, Yes, sir, two thousand and five. Let's go and

856
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: sports history was my guy right here. And now is

857
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: is that over yet?

858
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: Or we get the he oh nah, but we got

859
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: some We got some things that are coming down the

860
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 3: pipeline that are going to change that like what so?

861
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: And that's about as far as I can tell you.

862
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's Heisman trust on that ass. I'm on

863
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: the Heisman trust ass. I could say that I'm on

864
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: the ass.

865
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: That's n C two A both of them Hall of

866
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 2: Fame this week though right last.

867
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: Week, congratulations recently it was recently recently. That's that's you know, when,

868
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: like I said, top three, anytime you ask anyone of anyone,

869
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: Reggie's in the top one. NFL oversees groundbreaking ceremonies for

870
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: Lucas Oil Stadium in the eighteen t stadium valuing one

871
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: point seven billion dollars collectively.

872
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 2: This one.

873
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 4: This is kind of the new era of stadiums that

874
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 4: we're seeing today. That's that's kicked off the billion dollar.

875
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 4: We want to host concerts, we want final fours, we

876
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 4: want to play indoors. Everything should be seventy two degrees

877
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 4: on astro turf.

878
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if I love it. I like the elements,

879
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: can I just I just want to say, fuck astro turf. Yes,

880
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: this is an anti as.

881
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: Horrid ball for your body because you know, playing up

882
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: there in New England, especially in that cold. Oh how

883
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: y'all did it in that cold playing on that turf,

884
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: because the turf hurts worse.

885
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: We practice on grass. We practice on grass and outdoor

886
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: every time.

887
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: Y'all never practice on turf, No, if we did it, Mark,

888
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: there was a couple of times where our it would

889
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: be so cold that our our ground, our grass would

890
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: freeze yea, and the pipes it was so cold that

891
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: the pipes couldn't heat up because they have the heating

892
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: system where it freeze where. And then they'd have to

893
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: go into the stadium and we'd have like a lighter practice.

894
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: But like you know, when you have an older team

895
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: that puts guys down for two days, absolutely, you know

896
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: what I mean, there's a residual effect of working on

897
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: that turf, just through joint and stuff, you know.

898
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 2: So it's definitely tough.

899
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: Turf is not good for you in every stadium needs

900
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 3: to go back to grass.

901
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 4: I'm with you couldn't agree more. Also, this week in

902
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: the backyard Brawl, Pat White balled out two hundred and

903
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 4: fifty yards set the Big East quarterback rushing record.

904
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: Regu were you keeping an eye on dudes like Pat White? Back?

905
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 3: Hot White was a dog back then it was a beast,

906
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: so washing him.

907
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: At West Virginia it was West Virginia Mountaineers.

908
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: West Virginia Mountains this dude running up and down the sidelines. Man,

909
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: but no, he was a beast and he was rocking

910
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: at number five.

911
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: I think was there was Pat McAfee there that year.

912
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: I think he was let me double jack.

913
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: You probably never had the punt you got Pat dude,

914
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: Pat White. So I was talking about drafting. So when

915
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: I got going coming out and I was getting recruited,

916
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: and you know, you go, you know how the process goes.

917
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: You go to a pro day, you work out for teams,

918
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: then you get visited to facilities. Miami was like all

919
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: over me. And it was because they had the wildcat.

920
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: We were just talking Rick Williams, Ronnie Brown. The wildcat

921
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: thing was like hot, and I was, you know, my

922
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: senior year my college, I ran for like fifteen hundred

923
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: yards through flight, so I could they were like thinking

924
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: of an evolution potential.

925
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: So like I was thinking, oh, yeah, wait, can we

926
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: just stop there?

927
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: You ever think about that and where that may have

928
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 3: could have taken you, if that, if that actually happened.

929
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: You what I'm saying like, do you ever think about that?

930
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: Go back? I'm like, damn, I could have been like nah,

931
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: because you know, I I was catching the ball.

932
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't hit them them eighteen yard outs, like these

933
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: dudes could throw.

934
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: You know, if you're in the league. So you wasn't accurate,

935
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: You wasn't I could do. I was more of a runner.

936
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: I was more of a runner. I like to run,

937
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: all right, you know.

938
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: So I know that was like a hot thing the

939
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: Wildcat and draft day came and I'm like sitting there,

940
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: I got a Miami hat.

941
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to Miami potentially.

942
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: I've been talking to their scout and first with their

943
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: second round pick, they picked Pat White. I was like, oh,

944
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: fucking Pat White. I got so mad at him. Was

945
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: like I went out there. It was the first time

946
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: ever in Miami, Like this place.

947
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: Is so nice.

948
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking Pat White, hey man.

949
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: But look at look how look how they worked out

950
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: for you. You know what I'm saying. It turned out good.

951
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 3: And I look at that situation in similar minds. I

952
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: was supposed to be number on draft pick to Houston. Yeah,

953
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: and you know, not going to Houston probably the best

954
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: thing that ever happened to me, because I get a

955
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 3: chance to go to New Orleans, play with Drew Brees,

956
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: go win the Super Bowl, and you know, be able

957
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: to bring back hope into a city that was just

958
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: destroyed by Hurricane Katrina by just winning football games, you

959
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

960
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: And I never would have.

961
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: Been privileged to that, you know, had I not been

962
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: drafted or had I gone first.

963
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: So everything works out for a reason. Man, How did

964
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 2: that draft process go?

965
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: It was, you know, so for me when I went

966
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: to the combine, you know, you go through all your

967
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: interview process, thirty one teams didn't want to interview me

968
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: because they're like, he's not gonna be here, He's going

969
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 3: number one. So I literally only spoke to Houston. And

970
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: I only was talking to Houston the entire process leading

971
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: up to the night before the draft. It was the

972
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 3: only team I ever spoke to. And so Charlie Casherley

973
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: was a GM at this time, and he, you know,

974
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: I later found out some reasons why, which had to

975
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: do you know, with the Heisman Trophy, and I guess,

976
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 3: you know, supposed they had a private investigator come do

977
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 3: a whole investigation.

978
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: Why does it matter here?

979
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: And an investigator came back and told him I had

980
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: bad character, don't draft me. And so that's how I

981
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: ended up not going to Houston and why they took,

982
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: you know, Mari Williams, which.

983
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: Is fine, it is what it is.

984
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 3: But it's just to give you context as to, you know,

985
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 3: again why it didn't happen and why I ended up

986
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 3: going to New Orleans.

987
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: But it all worked out for the best, you know

988
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

989
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: And you know, I look at that as you know,

990
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 3: one of the greatest moments in my life, being able

991
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: to go to New Orleans, because one, it's an amazing

992
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: place and if you've ever been there, amazing people and

993
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: the best food in the world, best food in the world.

994
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: Bro, I've never experienced it. I've only got there. I

995
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: went down there and got my ass beat in two

996
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: thousand and eight when you guys beat the shit out

997
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: of us on fucking mon night football people had umbrellas

998
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: and stuff inside and beating. It was the loudest I

999
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: felt like, I don't know, I don't know where I

1000
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: was at. We got our ass beat, and I didn't

1001
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: even remember anything of that.

1002
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, And but but again, man, it's you know, it's

1003
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 3: just going back to the story and me be going

1004
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: down there. I believe everything happens for a reason, and

1005
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: I believe, you know our purpose, you know, sometimes, you know,

1006
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: we think we're in control and there's times where we're

1007
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: not control, and it's you know, it's for a reason.

1008
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: So that's how it goes many I'm a firm believer

1009
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: of that as well. You know, whether you're whether it's

1010
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: good or bad, it's it's happening. You can do two things.

1011
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: You know, you could either relish on something that good happened.

1012
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: There's gonna be another day, you know so, and something

1013
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: bad happens, you can you know you learned from it,

1014
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: and things happen. Now what what's what's Drew brees like

1015
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: you talked to them up absolutely Mann.

1016
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: Focus, So I tell the story.

1017
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: I always tell the story about Drew I was coming

1018
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: from USC, I'm always priud to myself and being one

1019
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: of the hardest workers. That's like my main focus is

1020
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna outwork everybody. I'm gonna outwork my competition,

1021
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna outwork my opponents and games. And when I

1022
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 3: got drafted to New Orleans, you know, and again feeling

1023
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: that that sense of responsibility of you know, you have

1024
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 3: an opportunity to bring back hope into a city, and

1025
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 3: you know, all that was inside of me going into

1026
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 3: New Orleans. And so I made it a point to,

1027
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 3: you know, be one of the first guys in the

1028
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 3: locker room, one of the first guys in the film room,

1029
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: first guys on the practice field, and the last guy

1030
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 3: off type thing, and to.

1031
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: Put a context for people out there when when when

1032
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: you're a veteran guy in your first round draft pick,

1033
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: does that like, that's not always the case. You know

1034
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: that that sets a that sets a tone to the

1035
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: whole team that this guy is about business.

1036
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: When when you because.

1037
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys that can come in, they're

1038
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,479
Speaker 1: the guy who has to take the pictures, and every

1039
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: time the team does something, he's the first one doing it.

1040
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: He's got the jersey, he's and so a lot of

1041
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: guys eat that up when and they don't, they don't

1042
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: take that ship like that. And so I'm telling you

1043
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: right now as Drew Brees being a professional, I don't

1044
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: know him, but I know he's a fucking excellent preparer

1045
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: and so practices everything. When you see a guy like

1046
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: Reggie coming, who's the number two overall pick, and he

1047
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: starts like setting that tone, I mean it's instantly he's

1048
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: gonna gravitate towards.

1049
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: You, And it was instant success with me and Drew

1050
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 3: on the football field, I had ninety eight receptions my rookie.

1051
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: I remember running back. You a thousand thousand guy, right.

1052
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, as a running back, I had ninety eight receptions,

1053
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 3: you know.

1054
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: And so but again, like I said, it was instant.

1055
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 3: Success because of my mindset coming in was that I

1056
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 3: wanted to be the hardest worker. And so I go

1057
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 3: back to the story. I would try to get to

1058
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: the facility first. I try to be literally the first

1059
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 3: guy in the facility. And I would get there when

1060
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 3: it's completely dark outside. It be like six o'clock in

1061
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: the morning, maybe even five forty five sometimes, and there

1062
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 3: would be one car always in the parking lot already,

1063
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: and I will walk into the facility and Drew would

1064
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: already be in there watching film. And I know this

1065
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 3: guy was the last person off the football field, off

1066
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 3: of practice field the day before, you know what I'm saying.

1067
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: And so I'm thinking about when did he go to sleep?

1068
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? If he's here this late.

1069
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 3: And when I say this late, I mean Drew stays

1070
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: on the practice field for about an hour to an

1071
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: hour and a half after practice is done, and I

1072
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: actually shot a video one time. I went back to

1073
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: New Orleans and I posted it and they had practice

1074
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 3: was done, and everybody had walked off and was gone inside, and.

1075
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: I had actually went back into the facility.

1076
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: I was kind of taking a tour because all the

1077
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 3: shit was new, and so I went back into the

1078
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: weight room and then I looked down into the football

1079
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: field because from the weight room you could see directly

1080
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 3: to the into the practice facility, and Drew was out

1081
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 3: there by himself, no football, no coach. Literally, I swear

1082
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 3: it got kind of creeped me out for a second.

1083
00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: Have no football. I'm like, hell, was he doing it?

1084
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 3: And he's going through every play, every motion, He's going

1085
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 3: through his checks. I see him like just doing stuff

1086
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 3: like this like that, you know what I'm saying. He's

1087
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 3: going through the game plan, the script, through everything, through reps.

1088
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 3: Guys have gone home at this point, so there's nobody

1089
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: in the weight room maybe one of.

1090
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: The coaches, and Drew's still in there working.

1091
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 3: And I shot this video and I posted and I

1092
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 3: was just like, man, listen for you young.

1093
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: Guys out there.

1094
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 3: If you want to know how to play for a

1095
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 3: long time in this league, you want to make a

1096
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 3: lot of money. This is how you do it right here.

1097
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 3: This is the kind of this is the way that

1098
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 3: you go to work. This is the way that you

1099
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 3: show up. And so again going back to the story,

1100
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 3: I would try to beat Drew into the locker room.

1101
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 2: And he'll tell you this as well.

1102
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 3: He would already be in that chair sitting down watching film,

1103
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 3: and I'll just shake my head every time because you know, again,

1104
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 3: I'm twenty one at this point. I'm twenty one, twenty two,

1105
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 3: so you know it's I'm doing everything I can to

1106
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 3: try to beat this guy.

1107
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: Which is a lot easier.

1108
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: People don't realize when you're twenty one to twenty two,

1109
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: you're fresh in the league.

1110
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: He ain't got family, he ain't really got kids.

1111
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: Unless you got kids, you know, you ain't got responsibility,

1112
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: you know when when.

1113
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: You're probably what was Drew is like eighth year he was, yeah,

1114
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: because he had already played a career in San Diego.

1115
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: He's got eight years in.

1116
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: He's got a fucking wife at home, he's got kids,

1117
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: he got to be home for dinner. He gotta make

1118
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: sure things are all right. Like there's so that's different perspective.

1119
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: So the fact that he's going out of his way

1120
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: to try to beat young Buck.

1121
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's taken effort exactly. So I had

1122
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: OG's in front of me.

1123
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 3: I had guys like Drew, Deuce McAllister, he was nasty,

1124
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 3: the Great Will Smith rest in peace, our defensive end

1125
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: who's passed away tragically, he was shot and killed. But

1126
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 3: you know, having these guys and Joe Horn too, Joe

1127
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: Horn was there as well, having guys like that in

1128
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 3: front of me and them me watching them work. But

1129
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 3: it was it was mainly Drew that I watched. I

1130
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 3: really focused in on Drew, right. I watched the other guys,

1131
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 3: but Drew was a guy I was like, Nah, he

1132
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 3: the captain of the ship.

1133
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: He's the guy.

1134
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: He's the guy that I want to try to emulate

1135
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: my the way I come to work, you know what

1136
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1137
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: And so I never beat him. Though I never beat

1138
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: him into the facility, I was never.

1139
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 3: He was always later than me off the field, you

1140
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It was just you know, relentless work,

1141
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 3: relentless pursuit. And long after I left, he never wavered.

1142
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 3: It stayed the same, you know, up until after I

1143
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 3: was long retired from the game and he was still playing.

1144
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 2: You see, you know what that does right there.

1145
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: That's what a lot of a lot of guys that

1146
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: play that position, because I was around the guy the

1147
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: same way. Okay, a lot of guys that play that position.

1148
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: You got to.

1149
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: Hear that that everyone is looking at you, and so

1150
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: what you put yourself out there to be on the field,

1151
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: off the field whatever they're looking at that absolutely, and

1152
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: and and the professional that Drew was that motivates guys

1153
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: to fall in line because he's the highest paid guy

1154
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: in the team. He's been there, he's got this, he's

1155
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: got all these you know, so you have to so

1156
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: that that's that's a that's a big thing to have,

1157
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: that example from the quarterback position, you know what I mean,

1158
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: because that I mean, who we kidding, it's a fucking

1159
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: quarterback league. Really, If you don't have a quarterback and

1160
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: there's so many different size shape how you play. But

1161
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: if you don't have your guy, and if he's not

1162
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: the right guy and he's not putting in and showing

1163
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: the guys how it needs to be done, I mean,

1164
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: you're light years ahead.

1165
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: I know.

1166
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: That's such a famous thing that everyone wants to say,

1167
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: buzz light years behind.

1168
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: Right, yeah. Yeah.

1169
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 3: And the other thing is is that, like you said,

1170
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 3: the rest of the team will follow suit, you know

1171
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And when you set that culture, you know,

1172
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 3: from day one, the first time you step foot, you know,

1173
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: in that uniform. So this was my rookie year, was

1174
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 3: Drew's first year in New Orleans, and it was also

1175
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 3: Sean Payton's year as a head coach, and so we

1176
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 3: had a lot of unknown right. We had some great players,

1177
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: but there were still unknown because the year before, the

1178
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 3: Saints were the Aints and they weren't great.

1179
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: They weren't good.

1180
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 3: Obviously going through Katrina affected a lot of that, but

1181
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 3: the years prior before that, they were one of the

1182
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 3: worst teams in the league, you know, for a very

1183
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 3: long time. And so it started with Drew, you know,

1184
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: changing the culture, and and Sean and and and me

1185
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 3: and so, you know, taking that team and changing the

1186
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 3: culture to being a respected organization, you know, respected winning organization.

1187
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: You know. It was just I mean, that's the crazy thing.

1188
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: It's because of you guys' success that we still think

1189
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 1: that the Saints are still going to be good right.

1190
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 2: Now, you know what I mean? Like we failed to forget.

1191
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: They don't have Drew Brees, they ain't got Rage Bush,

1192
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 1: and they haven't got Sean Payton.

1193
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: They'll be good exactly.

1194
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 3: But that's you know, I think you've done this in

1195
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: New England, so you understand it, man. But again, the

1196
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 3: optics of everything you do, how you work, how you prepare,

1197
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 3: how you engage with your teammates, the kind of play

1198
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 3: you are on a football field, the unselfishness of your

1199
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 3: play and of your work ethic each and every day,

1200
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 3: it all matters. Every single bit of it matters. And

1201
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: that's why the ones who prepare the best and the

1202
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: most patriots. That's why you guys considered one of the

1203
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 3: best teams, the best team ever. You had the greatest

1204
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 3: quarterback ever, man, because preparation is key and it's the

1205
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 3: number one thing.

1206
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: It over. It takes over anything and that, and that's

1207
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: kind of how it goes.

1208
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 3: You know.

1209
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure Sean set the template of what we expect,

1210
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: and you got a guy like Drew who polices and

1211
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: enforces and is the.

1212
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: Flag carrier, coaches message. And then you got.

1213
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: Foot soldier Reggie. You know, you got your you got

1214
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: your leaders. But it has to be the quarter, which

1215
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: was kind of like how we were, you know exactly.

1216
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: Bill had an expectation. Tom you know, followed that and

1217
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: and like was the guy who's fucking showing everyone how

1218
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: to do it. And then you had the guys under

1219
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: him that had to keep you know, the hurdle in.

1220
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 3: Tom Brady made people money. Brother, he did a lot

1221
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 3: of people money. I know you can't say it, but

1222
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it. He Didne made a lot of

1223
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 3: coaches money. He didn't made some players who didn't deserve,

1224
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 3: who weren't that great, got paid.

1225
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: Right. One of my boys, Matt Castle, prime example.

1226
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 3: Brady gets hurt, he goes in, balls out, and then

1227
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: goes and gets paid and plays you know, X amount

1228
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: of more years.

1229
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: I like you cast from watching a guy like Tom Brady,

1230
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: right joking, I think you're really good. Castle. Get sensitive

1231
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: about that. You know, this was my guy.

1232
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: I know he might try to wrestle. He literally he

1233
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: will wrestle you. It doesn't matter where you are. You

1234
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: can be at a barbecue, you could be at the street,

1235
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: you could be you go to a restaurant.

1236
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 2: If you say something, piss off Castle, he's wrestling, but nobody.

1237
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 2: My point is nobody knew Castle right.

1238
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 3: Castle didn't even play at USC because of Matt Lioner, right.

1239
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 3: And there's no disrespect, but it is what it is

1240
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 3: like he didn't get on the football field.

1241
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: But you go to a team like.

1242
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 3: New England and you watch the best prepared, right, and

1243
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 3: then you step in and you take full advantage of

1244
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 3: that opportunity and now other teams want to pay you

1245
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 3: and go and the rest is history.

1246
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: And so that's why I always say Brady made a

1247
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 2: lot of people money. He made a lot of people.

1248
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 3: He made a lot of coaches money, a lot lot

1249
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 3: some coaches who I don't think they're great coaches that

1250
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 3: were in New England with you, guys who got exposed

1251
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 3: when they went and tried to go be head coaches.

1252
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 2: He got those guys.

1253
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 3: Paid and he made y'all believe that which you talking about,

1254
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 3: oh recent one that just got fired.

1255
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: With but but but again like very good exces, no guy,

1256
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 2: you know that. That's yeah, it's tough, yeah, Exces and

1257
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: those right.

1258
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 3: But this is what I always say, This is where

1259
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: I think the NFL has a has an issue. Is

1260
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 3: the NFL has gone more towards analytics and stat driven

1261
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 3: coaching searches right. And the reason why that's an issue

1262
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 3: and why we constantly see these coaches fail is because

1263
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 3: you go from coaching offense and just speaking to the

1264
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 3: quarterbacks and now where you gotta be the capitalorship of

1265
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 3: the whole team offense, defense, special teams, assistant coaches, executives.

1266
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: Like a coach, what hotel we saying that exactly? What's

1267
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: the curfew said at hey coach? Uh, yeah, one of

1268
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: our rookies just got arrested. Yeah yeah, go go get

1269
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: in front.

1270
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 2: Don't handle that right before your biggest game that you

1271
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 2: gotta play. It's a tough job. It's not easy, and

1272
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: so do what I'm getting.

1273
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: What I'm getting at is you need somebody who understands

1274
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 3: how to build winning culture, who knows in winning culture,

1275
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 3: you gotta be a people person. You got to be

1276
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 3: able to talk to you, to me, to her, to him, everybody,

1277
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 3: and it's all got to be genuine, right, and it's

1278
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 3: all got to come from a genuine place, and everybody

1279
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 3: has to believe you, right because, like you said, now

1280
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 3: the eyes are on you even more. It's a bigger microscope.

1281
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 3: You can kind of hide you in the in the

1282
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 3: booth you coach. He plays from the booth, Kenna. He

1283
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: had hit for three years. Once you step out to

1284
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 3: that front line and that camera's on you, it all matters.

1285
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1286
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 3: And you know, I think a great example of someone

1287
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 3: who has taken full advantages as one of my old teammates,

1288
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell, who's coaching the Lions at a high level

1289
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 3: right now, and you talk about this guy who played

1290
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 3: the game, was a great was a good player, was

1291
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 3: not a great player.

1292
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 2: It was not a big, well known player, but he understood.

1293
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 2: He did his job.

1294
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 3: Dan was like a blocking tight end. When I got

1295
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 3: to New Orleans, he was blocked his ass off. I

1296
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 3: knew I had to go. If I was running to

1297
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 3: his side, I was gonna get some yards. But he

1298
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 3: did his job and he understood how to build culture.

1299
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 3: And you can't build culture from analytics, you know what

1300
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1301
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: I think that's a great example of also a guy

1302
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: that because teams are predicated, you have superstars. Everyone has superstars.

1303
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: It's the role players. How do the role players play?

1304
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: And Dan Campbell being a guy that he was a

1305
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: role guy player, Your fucking role, Dan, you sit on

1306
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: and you block the nine technique, you blow his ass up,

1307
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of times, will have you sneak out

1308
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: to the flat and will throw your bone. No, and

1309
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell loved it. He was a role guy. He

1310
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: understood his role on the team. Him being able to

1311
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 1: translate that to his team that goes a long way.

1312
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: And you could say that probably with Demiko as well.

1313
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: How he's getting guys to fight now.

1314
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 2: He just said that. Bro, I'm so glad he just

1315
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: said that, because.

1316
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: Dimiko, I mean, I keep on, I do Fox and

1317
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm over here talking about Yeah, they got to have

1318
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: a hiccup here soon. You know, these guys have been

1319
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: playing too good. Yeah, there ain't no hiccups. Where's the hiccup?

1320
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: Rookie quarterback playing lights out? Lights out?

1321
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: Nick Cassario, shout out, Patriot, he started, He drafted lights outs.

1322
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: Drafted them.

1323
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 3: And I've always felt player coaches are always going to

1324
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 3: have an advantage over coaches who never played the game

1325
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 3: because they understand what it's like to be in the jungle,

1326
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 3: they understand what it's like to be in the trenches.

1327
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about this. Let's talk about this.

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01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: Real quick, all right, Who how many player coaches have

1329
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl.

1330
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: Well, we look that up.

1331
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 3: How many player coaches have there been? I mean, that

1332
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 3: would be my neck, that would be my That's a

1333
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 3: good next question one. You know what I'm saying, because

1334
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 3: there are not a lot of benefa head.

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01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we're getting it's getting to the point now

1336
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: because we're getting older. You know, we're like our generation

1337
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. These motherfucker's are player of coaches.

1338
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 2: Now, right exactly, Maybe win it.

1339
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 3: That motherfucker ain't playing Mike Dika Dica Dinka Rivera.

1340
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: There you go. He didn't win a Super he didn't

1341
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 2: want to Super Bowl.

1342
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: So maybe I wonder who out of these player coaches now,

1343
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: who's going to win?

1344
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 2: The coach?

1345
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 3: That guy Rabel Rebel's been in Tennessee for a while.

1346
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 3: Grape is good, and I like, has not, you know,

1347
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 3: has not you won a Super Bowl down there. But

1348
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 3: when Rebel first took over, you saw how the culture

1349
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 3: of that team changed right away, right away, right away.

1350
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: They're always in it and they don't. They're always hurt. Yeah,

1351
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 2: always hurt. Dungee won as a player and a head coach.

1352
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Dungee. I think it was Rivera as an assistant.

1353
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 3: People who play for Tony Dungee loved him, love them.

1354
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 3: Everybody who I've ever spoken to about Tony Dungee loved him, like, Yo,

1355
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 3: this was a great guy, great man, great coach.

1356
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 2: Everybody loved them. The people that watch him on Peacock Hat.

1357
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie now we're talking about TV and broadcasting.

1358
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 2: I'll be ready to fall asleep. A Costo TV look

1359
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: at him like, oh, that's like that's like the old uncle. Yeah,

1360
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: that's the old jolly uncle. All right, let's let's get

1361
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 2: into the show.

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Speaker 1: God, they got dev McCarty, car got car don't bring

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Speaker 1: your don't bring your rings on National TV. Okay, I

1364
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: like you've been there.

1365
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 2: God damn.

1366
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: First DA first episode and he brings off a ring,

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Speaker 1: Like all right, dude, cats out the bag. We we

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Speaker 1: gotta we gotta get back into the gave. Let's get

1369
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: back into the game. We'll be right back after this

1370
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Speaker 2: Set the stage of these Prisden of State Bullds. There's

1389
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: no State Bulldogs. We talked about him earlier.

1390
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 4: Scrappy Bunch Beat Carroll said after this game, this should

1391
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 4: have been a top ten team. The motto is anybody anywhere, anytime.

1392
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 4: They were going all over. Since two thousand they played

1393
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 4: twelve FC FBS teams on the road.

1394
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: One four That hill fucking tough. He used to come

1395
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: to our practices and he just he was a cool

1396
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: lass dude. Yeah, he had like the you got the

1397
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: what does he have? The fucking Manshu A Belichick guy.

1398
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, him and Bill. He was with Bill, I think

1399
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: in Cleveland.

1400
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 4: And then it was a top ten offense. This was

1401
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 4: post David Carr. David Carbon gone since O one, so

1402
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 4: we're in the Paul Pinniger era here. Vinegar he came

1403
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 4: in thirty two and nine as a starter, so they

1404
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 4: had some leadership on this one.

1405
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 2: They had gone on the road.

1406
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 4: Their only loss was at Eugene, playing at Oregon earlier

1407
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 4: in the year, so ranked all year pretty much came

1408
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 4: in this one ranked sixteenth.

1409
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 2: Tough bunch, yeah, but they didn't play like they was

1410
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: ranked sixty. Yeah. They came like they was in top

1411
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 2: They was like they was a top five team. Yeah.

1412
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 2: I mean they came in slanging on this one.

1413
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 4: And then, as Reggie alluded to earlier, we know, I mean,

1414
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 4: everybody knows this USC team, five Stars, Galore, Dwayne Jarrett,

1415
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 4: Steve Smith, Fred Davis, Lyndale White, Pete Carroll. I mean,

1416
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 4: coach O had just left, Norman Chow had just left.

1417
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 4: Coach just left, what coach ed Ojeron had left them

1418
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 4: the season before he went to Ole Miss.

1419
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 2: Did he yeah, Oh yeah he did.

1420
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 3: He did, he did because we had Jeff throw Franklin. Ye,

1421
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 3: they came over.

1422
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: You're right, and then you had Norm Chow leave. But

1423
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 2: it don't matter yet.

1424
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 4: Bringing Lane Kiffen on the coaching staff, Sark was on

1425
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 4: the coach.

1426
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 2: Lane was already there. He was. Laye was just like

1427
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 2: a quarterbacks coach the entire time.

1428
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 4: Elevated, scoring forty nine points a game this season ranked

1429
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 4: number one.

1430
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin. Yeah, like, I can only imagine some stories

1431
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 2: about the street. Can you talk about.

1432
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 4: This team was defending back to back Natties, as we know,

1433
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 4: the thirty two game win streak led by Pete Carroll

1434
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 4: and uh, all these guys.

1435
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: The pressure, the pressure had to be coming, so was

1436
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: it was it starting to build that you guys are

1437
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: winning so many fucking games.

1438
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 3: So this year, this is my junior year, it felt

1439
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 3: like the first I mean it felt like every game

1440
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 3: we played we were down at halftime.

1441
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, four games up to this when it was down

1442
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 2: and half.

1443
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 3: We're down in half and we had to fight tooth

1444
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 3: and nail because every team was circle.

1445
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: They circled the kitchen sink. At us.

1446
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 3: Every trick play known to mankind I had. I have

1447
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 3: never seen as many trick plays and went.

1448
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: Reverse pass back to the lineman.

1449
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 3: I mean it was stop and in Puerto Rico, everything

1450
01:09:58,479 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 3: it was.

1451
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 2: It was a dog fight. This We did not have

1452
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 2: it easy.

1453
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 3: We we felt like every every game that we went

1454
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 3: into it was like up in the air, like we

1455
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 3: don't know, we're gonna We're gonna find out a lot

1456
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 3: about ourselves in these dog fights. And every game second

1457
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 3: half we would just step on the gas and turn

1458
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 3: it on.

1459
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 2: And you guys retired. You guys toy with teams at first.

1460
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: You guys probably bored over at the club the night before.

1461
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: Ain't no a all right, let me strap up a

1462
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 1: gator a real quick, hey now now.

1463
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 2: And our entire D line went to the NFL. Entire

1464
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 2: D line plus linebackers. You got him up here, Brian Cushing, Ray.

1465
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 3: Malugas, I played, he played d That's the D line

1466
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 3: I'm talking about.

1467
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 2: I played Pop Warner with the teams. Did my guys,

1468
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 2: you didn't go to they went to Logan.

1469
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: We played Pop Warner Pop Warner, and then they went, Yeah,

1470
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: they went they went across Bays.

1471
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 2: Their dad but like his dad worked on my hand

1472
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, where'd you go to high school? I

1473
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 2: went to Woodside. Yeah, ain't no big deal.

1474
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 3: Let me say it's about the teens, all right. To

1475
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 3: this day, the only Asian football players I have ever met,

1476
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 3: all right.

1477
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 2: But twins.

1478
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 3: And then when I watched their high school highlight tape,

1479
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 3: it was a it was crazy. And when when they

1480
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 3: played when they played defense though, this was crazy when

1481
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,799
Speaker 3: we watched this because Coach Carroll would put up guys

1482
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 3: high school highlight tapes.

1483
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 2: They would laddle the ball to each other.

1484
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 3: They would do like the craziest stuff man, And still

1485
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,480
Speaker 3: to this day, like it's it's a sensation.

1486
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 2: To me, like tele twin activity on the field, like.

1487
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 3: Twin activity on the football field, just pitching the ball

1488
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 3: to each other, scoring touchdowns like and and and so

1489
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 3: I was, like I said, I was just in Vegas

1490
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 3: for the recently for the COAG Football Hall.

1491
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: Of Fame, and they were both there. They both came, man,

1492
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 2: so shout out to the teams. Man. You know, the

1493
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 2: older brother, Arthur is like he's.

1494
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 3: Like a huge actor, big Hollywood actor, and uh yeah,

1495
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 3: he's a big like I don't know where, but like

1496
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:03,759
Speaker 3: I think.

1497
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 2: In China and all over though, all over he was

1498
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: those guys. Yeah, like they were the cool kids because.

1499
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 1: They always their dad was the Niners doc, so they'd

1500
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: have all the wristbands and the good gatorade and shit

1501
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 1: like their.

1502
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 2: Mom used to do.

1503
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: The film they'd have this was like in nineteen eighty three,

1504
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: four or five, and their mom had like the cool

1505
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: camera and breaking down when the coaches and ship.

1506
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 2: They were awesome.

1507
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 3: They had everything. Man, but yeah, shout out to the

1508
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 3: teens man. Love y'all boys.

1509
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: They literally were comparing make they were making arguments this

1510
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: year with this team that you guys can go out

1511
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 1: and be I remember the San Francisco forty nine ers, remember,

1512
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: because this was the.

1513
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 2: Niners were done terrible, really bad, really bad. And this

1514
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: is what I would say about that.

1515
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 3: We don't know, but we everybody, pretty much everybody on

1516
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,919
Speaker 3: our on our defensive line went to the NFL.

1517
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 2: A bunch of running backs pretty much, damn. Their entire

1518
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: team went to the NFL. So you think it has

1519
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 2: a bunch of future NFL guys, so you think it

1520
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 2: could happen.

1521
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: Just will never know, will never know, never know. What

1522
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: was your relationship with with Lindell.

1523
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 3: Great, it's my dog. I love Lindell. He was also

1524
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 3: showed up and surprised me at the COSG football.

1525
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 2: He's a monster. Got out to my dog Lindell. You know,

1526
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: this is what I say about he was.

1527
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 3: He pushed me every single day in practice. He pushed

1528
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 3: me every single day on the football field because he was.

1529
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: Always on his A game.

1530
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 3: And I knew I had to be on my A

1531
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,679
Speaker 3: game because again, as much as were teammates were also

1532
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 3: competing for the ball, right, we're competing for touches. And

1533
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 3: so you know, there's there's no better bonding relationship, you know,

1534
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 3: from somebody who's going to push you to be your

1535
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 3: greatest every single day.

1536
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 2: You have to have that.

1537
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: There's nothing I say that that happened with me and Amondola. Yeah,

1538
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: there's a brother lead competition where it raises both of

1539
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: your levels because you're trying to you're competing, but you're

1540
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: also competing against your self. And the better versions that

1541
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: we have for us is better for the team.

1542
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 3: Better for the team man. And and so you know,

1543
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 3: shout out to my dogland delle Man. You know he

1544
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 3: he again, he was such a a force and it's

1545
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 3: just such a you know, just a great player to

1546
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 3: have beside.

1547
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 2: Me and to push me.

1548
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 3: Every single day, you know, and and you know I

1549
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 3: thank him, you know, for that, for being there and

1550
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 3: just for being that great player on that field. But

1551
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 3: you know, going again, like I said, we had a

1552
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 3: bunch of five star players, and you know, the competition levelhere.

1553
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 2: Practice was always up. It was never down. It was

1554
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 2: always up. Got to show out in front of snoop

1555
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,560
Speaker 2: and it was nasty some points sometimes, you know what

1556
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1557
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 3: It got to point to where we would be in

1558
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 3: fights with the defense, defensive line. We nine on seven

1559
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 3: was a dog fight. We started nine on seven every

1560
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 3: practice ninety seven.

1561
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: For you guys, that's a run drow where there's no receivers,

1562
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 1: receivers who are usually doing one on ones playing you know, catch,

1563
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: and it's full life.

1564
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 2: Go for the fucking hogs in the box, it's full

1565
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 2: life go. It's a jungle.

1566
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 3: They know you're not throwing the football, they know they're

1567
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 3: not downhill. Everybody's designed to kill the offense. And it

1568
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 3: is literally there's no play action, nothing. It's it might

1569
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 3: as well be fucking goal line.

1570
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 2: It is. It might as well be going on if

1571
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 2: you can win on that, you could fucking do it

1572
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:21,959
Speaker 2: in the game exactly.

1573
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 3: And and that's where you know, those battles in nine

1574
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 3: o seven for me is where I became a man

1575
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 3: because I have five star linebackers and d lineman on

1576
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 3: the other the other side of that football are ready

1577
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 3: to try to take my head off in practice.

1578
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 2: And so that just always.

1579
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 3: Kept your your your tension, your focus, your tension to detail.

1580
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 2: Everything had to be at a high level.

1581
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: And you got NFL scouts every day at the fucking thing,

1582
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: so you know, motherfuckers are going hard, like I'm gonna

1583
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: show this motherfucker.

1584
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 2: And and and Pete would do this.

1585
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 3: He would also our practices we would have like there

1586
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 3: would be some high school teams would be there watching us,

1587
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,759
Speaker 3: there would be fans there, we'd have uh celebrities there.

1588
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: So practice had an audience.

1589
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 3: So we had to be on our a game not

1590
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 3: only for ourselves, but we didn't want to get embarrassed.

1591
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 3: And some high school kids, because you know, high schol

1592
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 3: kids gonna make noises if you if somebody gets oh,

1593
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 3: if you fumble the ball or you make a move

1594
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 3: with something, oh shit, and they're all going crazy on

1595
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 3: the sidelines, so it just amped up practice.

1596
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: Even LA kids, LA kids going rowdy out there.

1597
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, man nine oh seven, I don't even know

1598
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 3: if that's like, you know, at the high school level,

1599
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 3: you know, they still really like getting it popping like that.

1600
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 3: But that's where you become a man, is in the

1601
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 3: nine oh sevens of Oklahoma drills. Well you ever do

1602
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 3: Oklahoma drill? Yeah? I was a quarterback when it was

1603
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 3: going down, though I was kent. Oh, but you're doing it.

1604
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I was like, I mean, pop warnt you

1605
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 2: do bulling the ring and all that stuff. You know

1606
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: what I mean. But you know, Lyndell White being.

1607
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: Your omie, your best friend, you know, it brings me

1608
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: to the point where we need to get to the

1609
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 1: Bounty wing man question. It is time for the Bounty

1610
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: wing man question. Bring out the wings, please, we got

1611
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: the wings. Well, you know, Bounty is everyone's favorite wing

1612
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: man because you can't have football without wings, Reggie, and

1613
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: you can't have wings without Bounty, especially on this beautiful

1614
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: suede couch that we have these beautiful Uh it gets messy,

1615
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: No it doesn't, it doesn't because of Bounty. Let's let's

1616
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 1: see what this.

1617
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 3: Iss well, I got kids, so for me my perspective,

1618
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 3: it gets messy definitely. And then that's when I got

1619
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 3: to clean up with the with the paper towel.

1620
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 1: We know that bounty helps clean up the messiest moments.

1621
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: So what was your messiest moment when you were at USC?

1622
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 2: Is this on the field off the field, we don't care?

1623
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1624
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 3: I definitely can't tell the off the field stories because

1625
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 3: you know, I think, you know, let's keep it PG,

1626
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 3: let's stick to the football thirteen. Now when you talk

1627
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 3: about MESSI are we talking about like sloppy. We're talking

1628
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 3: about like just like dirty fight, like anything.

1629
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 2: No matter. This is where I'm gonna let you use

1630
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 2: your imagination and it's kind of like art. It's whatever

1631
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 2: it means to you.

1632
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna tell this story right now because

1633
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 3: this is all I can think about right now.

1634
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 2: So this was we're at us.

1635
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 3: This is one of those nine o seven because we're

1636
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 3: just talking about nine o seven And so, like I said,

1637
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 3: nine oh seven was a dog fight, cushions over here,

1638
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 3: probably fucking crazy doing war dances. Yeah, and we had

1639
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 3: you know, our linebackers were coached by.

1640
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 2: The Great King Norton Jr. Ken Norton hitting the fucking

1641
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 2: bag talk the most shit of any coach I had

1642
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: ever been around. I love Ken. I love Ken Norton Jr.

1643
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:03,719
Speaker 3: Because every time I have I have a book now

1644
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 3: of old collectible cards.

1645
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 2: When I was young, did you collect cards? I mean

1646
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 2: I got a whole kid bro. I had a book

1647
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: that I still have him in the little plastic individual slides,

1648
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 2: and I have like.

1649
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 3: Three or four Kenons junior cards when he was with

1650
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers and he was with the Cowboys,

1651
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 3: and so ken Norton would always amp up practice, especially

1652
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 3: when on one on ones with the linebackers balking or

1653
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 3: when we had nine o seven. It was he's talking

1654
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 3: ship from from the time we step on the field right.

1655
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 3: And our running back coach Todd McNair played in NFL

1656
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,719
Speaker 3: as well, was a dog, and so the ship talking

1657
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:43,759
Speaker 3: was always at a premium.

1658
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 2: Coaches always think they're still playing.

1659
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 3: Yes, So you gotta understand these coaches were living vicariously

1660
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 3: through us.

1661
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 2: And so by this.

1662
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: By head coach on that Windsday goddamn period. So let's

1663
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 1: put that in perspective too.

1664
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 3: And this is what Pete would do, which I thought

1665
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 3: was great, And if I ever become a coach, I'm

1666
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 3: gonna do the same thing where he would put up

1667
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 3: highlights from those periods in the team meeting room the

1668
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 3: next morning. So if you had a one on one drill,

1669
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 3: you got your ass knocked out, you get better. Sure,

1670
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 3: you better believe he's gonna be on that screen in

1671
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 3: the team meeting room and people was gonna be clowning accountability. Accountability, right,

1672
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 3: don't fuck it up. Go in there and do what

1673
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 3: you're supposed to do. And so there's one practice where

1674
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 3: we're about to do nine to seven and you know,

1675
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 3: I think the defense this is one of the players

1676
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 3: where the defense just kind of destroyed me and I

1677
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 3: got like picked up, and I think like dump. I

1678
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 3: don't know, I think I got dumped or something like that.

1679
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 3: So I jumped up, took my helmet off, and literally

1680
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 3: about to my bad was about to hit my teammate

1681
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 3: across the head with it.

1682
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 2: And in that moment, like halfway through, I was like, nah,

1683
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 2: I can't fucking do that.

1684
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 3: I can't smash him over the head with the helmet.

1685
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 3: You know, it was one of those moments where you

1686
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 3: know tensions are high.

1687
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 2: I mean, these are dogs going at it. You know,

1688
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 2: these are rams.

1689
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 3: Like literally, I always say football is not a contact sport.

1690
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 2: I hate when people say that football is a collision sport.

1691
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 3: Football is about two rams going head to head and

1692
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 3: one of them is gonna go to sleep.

1693
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 2: It's inertia and law versus mass.

1694
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 3: That's it. And so it's this practice. You know, I

1695
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 3: got out of character because the game before I think

1696
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 3: I had a fumble and and it was funny because

1697
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 3: Tamac afterwards, I guess Pete had a really good beat

1698
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 3: on the kind of person that I was. And so

1699
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 3: if I didn't play well the next practice that week,

1700
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 3: I was gonna fucking light it up. And so you know,

1701
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 3: I didn't play. I don't think I played well in

1702
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 3: this game, maybe out of fumble. And I came to

1703
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 3: practice like hot, like angry, like raised like a bull

1704
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 3: like rady to just destroy somebody. And so I got

1705
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 3: out of character. Was about to like take my helmet off,

1706
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 3: hit my literally took it off, and was like this,

1707
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 3: like about to hit my teammate over the head and.

1708
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 1: So but but but you had a paper towel to

1709
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 1: clean it up absolutely just in case.

1710
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 2: It almost got messy. It almost got messy and it didn't.

1711
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 2: And you know I was able.

1712
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 1: To eighteen years old to guys, don't forget keep my composure,

1713
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, in that moment.

1714
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 3: But you know it got messy for someone like me

1715
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 3: because the kind of player I was on the football field.

1716
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 3: I never let people get to me, you know what

1717
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And then if you talk shit to me,

1718
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 3: though all bets is off, I'm coming. I'm coming for you,

1719
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And that's the way we

1720
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 3: were kind of raised in the sport, right. You don't

1721
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 3: back down from nobody. You can't back down from nobody,

1722
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 3: you know.

1723
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. Go down and get your ass whooped.

1724
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 3: Go down and get your ass whooped, and you gotta

1725
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 3: get right back up and come back for more.

1726
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 2: It'll respect you more.

1727
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 3: So you know that was one of my my messy moments,

1728
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 3: you know that I think about when I was at USC,

1729
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 3: not proud of it. Even to this day, I think, like, man,

1730
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 3: why the hell did I do that? Like it was

1731
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 3: take my helmet off like I was about to.

1732
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 2: It's football. I got one thing. Let me give you

1733
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 2: one more messy moment, all right.

1734
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: It just came to I got one thing. I gotta

1735
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta address one thing. I say, you know, really,

1736
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: you know, I was known to fight in practice, you know,

1737
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: sometimes planning to get some juice.

1738
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 2: You had the fight to get the juice for the boys.

1739
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 2: If I were to ever fight you, I mean, you

1740
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 2: can't take your helmet off. That's exactly. That's part of

1741
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 2: the reason why it's messing helmet off exactly.

1742
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 3: And protection have you listened to this? This is so

1743
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 3: funny because that's the last time I took my helmet off.

1744
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 3: I never took my helmet off in a fight ever

1745
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 3: again after that because I was like, that.

1746
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 2: Was fucking stupid.

1747
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,759
Speaker 3: That gives you a couple of shots because if somebody

1748
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 3: catches you, you going to sleep, I promise you, and

1749
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 3: I have seen it happen.

1750
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: Everyone happened fast, everybody everyone. If someone gets you, you're

1751
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: done and will help me.

1752
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 3: And we're talking about five star d linemen out of

1753
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 3: bench pressing for fifty five hundred, you know, like squatting

1754
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 3: five hundred pounds, Like these.

1755
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 2: Dudes are built like gorillas.

1756
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 3: Like you don't just try to hit somebody like that

1757
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 3: with a helmet and he definitely don't take your helmet

1758
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 3: off and give them a free shot to.

1759
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:06,719
Speaker 2: So thank god we had the towel.

1760
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 3: This is another moment that I think might be a

1761
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 3: little that one messer.

1762
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 2: This is the this is the National Championship, National Championship

1763
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 2: against Texas. All right.

1764
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 3: I get this sometimes from people. Why did you pitch

1765
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 3: the football in the National Championship?

1766
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: Why did you do that? Right?

1767
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 3: And if you remember, in the game, so I had

1768
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 3: to play, I'm running, I pitched the ball to one

1769
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 3: of my teammates. Now, the reason why I'm saying that's

1770
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 3: messy is because it was a fumble in Texas ended

1771
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 3: up getting the ball back. And in that moment, I

1772
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 3: was pitching the ball to just a teammate, right, And

1773
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 3: when you go back and you look at the film,

1774
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 3: the guy was wide the fuck opened, and he's.

1775
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 2: Running towards me. Right, he's coming towards me. Mind you,

1776
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 2: everybody's about to tackle me. He's wide open.

1777
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 3: I pitched it to him thinking I gave him a

1778
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 3: that's a nice little alley you just wright in his

1779
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 3: hand in my mind that people watch in his hands,

1780
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 3: and he scored a touchdown. And when I looked, he

1781
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 3: was not looking at me. So he's running towards me

1782
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 3: but looking this way, and I'm like, wait, what the

1783
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 3: fuck is happening right now? Like this ball Now it's

1784
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 3: like everything's happening in motion, low motion, and I'm seeing

1785
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 3: the ball hit the ground and I'm like, oh my god,

1786
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 3: I'm seeing everybody jump on the ball.

1787
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: And then the last docing line hit.

1788
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 3: Is like, this is the fucking National Championship. Like I

1789
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 3: can't believe I just did that in the National Championship.

1790
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 3: And let me give you some perspective. We would actually

1791
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 3: practice laddering the ball and practice at USC and Pete

1792
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 3: was actually okay with it. He was down with it,

1793
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 3: like he was down with us being us. He gave

1794
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 3: us the room to be, you know, free on the

1795
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 3: football field a game. There were no guardrails, like, hey,

1796
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 3: go out and be you you know what I'm saying.

1797
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 3: And so that was one of those moments. You know,

1798
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 3: I look back on it. You know, May's a little

1799
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 3: Messica's the National Championship and you know it was the

1800
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 3: National Championship against Texas, you know, against Vince Young, which

1801
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 3: they ended up winning last second. But let me say this,

1802
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 3: it happened in the first half. So we lost the game.

1803
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 3: In the second half, not the first half.

1804
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, It's just it's it's the perfect

1805
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 1: example of why you need a paper towel for messy moment.

1806
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 2: You didn't have it.

1807
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: You didn't have a bounty paper towel. Bro, you didn't

1808
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 1: have a bounty paper towel. Let's move on, Let's get

1809
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: in set the game, Jack, Let's let's hear about this game.

1810
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 4: This was the first meeting between USC and Fresno State

1811
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 4: since ninety two. That was the Freedom Bowl played in

1812
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 4: Anaheim when Trent Dilfer led Fresno to a victory. Oh

1813
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 4: that hasn't played since then. These were, as we said,

1814
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 4: two dogs coming into this one. Rankings didn't matter. USC

1815
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 4: hadn't lost at home since oh one, had the street

1816
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 4: going back to back Natties going for the thirty third

1817
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 4: straight win. Fresno was hot. They hadn't lost since Week

1818
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 4: two when they went out to Eugene. As we mentioned

1819
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 4: earlier game, this was number one verse sixteen coming into

1820
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 4: this one. USC's average margin of victory this year coming

1821
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 4: into this was twenty eight point sixty five points. So

1822
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 4: turning it on in the second half and.

1823
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 3: Into this out so that's our you got our schedule

1824
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 3: up there. I'm trying to see what week was this.

1825
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 4: This was the second to last game for you guys,

1826
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 4: so only only UCLA left after this.

1827
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at the schedule now all over again.

1828
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,759
Speaker 3: So Arizona State October first. We were down at halftime

1829
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 3: in that game, Notre Dame. You already know that's the

1830
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 3: Bush Bush game. Washington State. We were down at halftime.

1831
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 2: Oregon.

1832
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 3: We were down at halftime against Oregon. Arkansas. We blew

1833
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 3: the doors off them boys. They wouldn't close. That was

1834
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 3: a track seventy burger who put up a seventy burger

1835
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 3: on them boys. And they came over talking all thatt

1836
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 3: sec talk, you know, like it needs more.

1837
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 2: Man, I cool wasn't there yet?

1838
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 3: And mind you hold on thinking about the Arkansas team

1839
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 3: and who they had, uh running back McFadden, Deren McFadden, Philix,

1840
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 3: Chen's Phil Jones, Felix.

1841
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 5: What's the Peyton hillis Peyton hillis there?

1842
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:17,799
Speaker 2: They have some dogs.

1843
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 3: They have some guys there at Arkansas, Like they wasn't

1844
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 3: just slumps slumps, Like, they have some guys there that

1845
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 3: have gone on to have great careers. Man, So you know,

1846
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 3: shout out to those guys man, you know, but that

1847
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 3: was that was one game where I know we took

1848
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 3: it personal because you know, there was this SEC talking

1849
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 3: how PAC twelve teams couldn't play against SEC, you know,

1850
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 3: and we always took We always in anybody there was

1851
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 3: a narrative out there like that about about us.

1852
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: We always you know, use.

1853
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 3: That we We just had Leonard talking about the Bush push.

1854
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 3: Did you what's your perspective on that whole thing? Forgot

1855
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 3: his and I want to see if it dials up.

1856
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 3: I want to see who's who's talking that needed me

1857
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 3: one hundred percent needed me. He was going backwards.

1858
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 2: He was going back.

1859
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 3: First of all, when you look at what Jalen Hurst

1860
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 3: is doing now, they're trying to call it the brotherly

1861
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 3: brotherly love shove or the tush push.

1862
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 2: That's bullshit, all right, It's the Bush push, okay, all right.

1863
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 2: And it started on accident, all right.

1864
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 3: It was started because I was trying to fucking win

1865
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 3: the game and I just didn't want to lose. And

1866
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 3: that's that relentless pursuit, that relentless mindset, like you know,

1867
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 3: no matter what, we're going to score this touchdown. And

1868
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 3: so before that play, we're in the huddle, it's time out,

1869
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 3: because everything's going crazy, Matt just gets knocked out of bounds.

1870
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 3: First of all, matc got knocked out of bounds and

1871
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:41,839
Speaker 3: fumbled the ball out of bounds.

1872
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 2: So it was one of.

1873
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 3: Those plays where if he gets tackled in bounds, game over.

1874
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 3: So he gets knocked out of bounds, ball goes out,

1875
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 3: clock stops, even though Notre Dame tried to keep the

1876
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 3: clock running.

1877
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 2: And we get the.

1878
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 3: Time out and we're in the huddle and it's just

1879
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 3: I just remember it just being chaos, and I'm just

1880
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 3: like I can't believe we could possibly lose this game

1881
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 3: right now, Like I can't believe we're in this dogfight

1882
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 3: with Notre Dame. Like, and so I go to I

1883
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 3: say to man, I'm like, what are you gonna do?

1884
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 3: And he's like, I'm gonna sneak it. I'm like, fuck,

1885
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,600
Speaker 3: literally first ink into my head. I'm like, oh.

1886
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: Ship, didn't he say like, yeah, dude, he said he

1887
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 1: said that. You said like, yeah, man, I think you

1888
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 1: got it.

1889
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 2: That's not how I felt. I was like yo, doing

1890
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 2: some hand signal things. He said, I got this audible.

1891
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 3: Something like he might have the audible something right now,

1892
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 3: because I don't know if this is going to work.

1893
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 3: And so then we break the huddle and all eleven

1894
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 3: players are lined up waiting for this QB sneak and

1895
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, oh my god. And so Matt hikes

1896
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 3: the ball. He starts getting knocked backwards on a QB sneak,

1897
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 3: moving backwards.

1898
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, this ain't happening.

1899
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 3: I just shove his ass, pushing as hard as I

1900
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 3: could bro over the line, and then he kind of like.

1901
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 2: Does some little you didn't even like the head. You

1902
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 2: gotta have a knack for the end zone.

1903
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 3: I'm so glad that we have the Philadelphia Eagles perfecting

1904
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 3: it now, because you see what it's supposed to look

1905
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 3: opposed to that's what it's supposed to look like.

1906
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 2: Dead fish. He was doing one of those moves he

1907
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 2: learned in the ballroom dancing classes. You're a wit. It

1908
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,679
Speaker 2: was a dead fish move. It was the ballroom dad,

1909
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 2: see that he was taking that year. Only he slid

1910
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 2: up in there.

1911
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 3: But but again he needed that push over that over

1912
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 3: that line, and I had I didn't even know it

1913
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 3: was illegal at the time. I was just like, we

1914
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 3: got to win this game. And you know, the rest

1915
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 3: is history, and so you know, but yeah, man, that

1916
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:54,759
Speaker 3: that that game.

1917
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:56,600
Speaker 2: You know, it was crazy. Let's get back to this

1918
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 2: Fresne State game. Shootout all game, let's start.

1919
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 4: We love talking celebrities on the sidelines, so before we

1920
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 4: get into it, Marcus Allen, Spike Lee, Rick Fox, and

1921
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 4: George Clinton were all there. George Clinton actually played with

1922
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 4: the band, which was pretty dope.

1923
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 2: And most of whe the snooped all the game.

1924
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 4: Will Fare I was gonna say, I'm sure there were

1925
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 4: other ones over nine hundred yards of total offense in

1926
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 4: this one, but the real story was five hundred and

1927
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 4: thirteen all purpose yards from Reggie, two hundred and ninety

1928
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 4: four yards on the ground, sixty eight receiving two tuddies,

1929
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 4: and then one hundred and fifty one in return yards.

1930
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 2: I was going off on the return game. It was insane.

1931
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 3: I was going off in the return punts, pants kickoffs too.

1932
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 2: I was going off of this game.

1933
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 4: And somehow, somehow, with six turnovers in the second half,

1934
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 4: somehow Fresno State hung around.

1935
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,719
Speaker 2: And this is a one score game like and we put.

1936
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 3: It wasn't like we didn't score points, like we put

1937
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 3: up fifty points and they had six turnovers and still.

1938
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 4: Insane, insane. It was just a wild game in every

1939
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 4: sense of the word. Uh shootout in the Coliseum, of course,

1940
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 4: one of Ready's best games of all time.

1941
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 3: And I have to say this, that one and only

1942
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 3: turnover was my fumble. I made actually a bad I

1943
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 3: made a bad read. I don't remember which way the

1944
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 3: kick off return is supposed to go, but I went

1945
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,600
Speaker 3: the opposite way because where they kicked the ball to me,

1946
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 3: I was kind of deep and they had done a

1947
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 3: great job. I remember one guys was like knifing in

1948
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 3: to like tackle me, you know, from from the kickoff

1949
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:31,560
Speaker 3: team from Fresnel State, And so I tried to just improvise,

1950
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 3: put my foot in the ground and I went away

1951
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,759
Speaker 3: from where the kick play call play call was supposed

1952
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 3: to go, and I went the complete opposite way, and

1953
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 3: I tried to make a move on the guy stuck

1954
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 3: the ball out like this.

1955
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just hit it right out of my hands.

1956
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:49,839
Speaker 3: And I mean that was such a gut wrenching feeling

1957
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 3: because I think it was towards the end of the game.

1958
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, they ended up scoring two touchdowns in twelve seconds

1959
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 4: there exact nine minutes left, so it was.

1960
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 2: It was crunched and they took the lead forty two

1961
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 2: to forty one. Whenever you abort the play call on

1962
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 2: a kickoff.

1963
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 1: Return, our special teams coordinator Scottie O'Brien used to say,

1964
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 1: you're at the grace of God. He goes because the

1965
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 1: guys are they're setting their angles and they're pushing guys

1966
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 1: that way, so there's a free there's a free run

1967
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: to the receiver of the returner.

1968
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,679
Speaker 3: And I tried to be Superman on that play, which

1969
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 3: was again not smart, but it's just the caught up

1970
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 3: in the nature of the game and just made a

1971
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 3: bad move, bad decision and didn't protect the football.

1972
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 2: But then you pulled it out.

1973
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:37,719
Speaker 1: I saw you pull those superman out after the throat

1974
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 1: or the cutback. The infamous cutback is the cutback the

1975
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 1: Heisman moment.

1976
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 2: I think so, I think it is. I think that

1977
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 2: was a moment that's when you knew you had it.

1978
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 2: Were you still nervous game?

1979
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 3: Is when I felt like I had solidified it because

1980
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 3: it was still you know, talk about you know, some

1981
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 3: other guys.

1982
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:56,759
Speaker 2: I think Adrian Peterson was up for the Heisman Trophy

1983
01:34:56,760 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 2: this year. I think young Ben Young d Angelo Williams

1984
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 2: was Angelo Angel.

1985
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 3: Shout out to D'Angelo and Vince, my guys. And that's

1986
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 3: what I love about, you know, games like this. You

1987
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 3: know there's I've built friendships with guys now that you know.

1988
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 3: I played against Vince Young and they beat us, and

1989
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 3: me and him, are you know cool now? And friends

1990
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 3: and so you know, it's just it's just it's great.

1991
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 3: That's why I love the game. But I was cool

1992
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 3: Vince until I hit him and I broke my back.

1993
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 3: Fucking this wasn't like. This wasn't college Vince when he

1994
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,759
Speaker 3: was thinning. So this is Philadelphia, Evince. I was playing

1995
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:35,720
Speaker 3: defense and you know Vince was a little thicker. I

1996
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 3: hit him square in the middle and broke my back.

1997
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 3: I led the league in ice hot packs from there

1998
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 3: on out. That's what my leading stat was.

1999
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:47,759
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's funny.

2000
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 1: Man.

2001
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 3: Hey, everybody get them, welcomed them moments where you know

2002
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:51,639
Speaker 3: I hit him.

2003
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was staying brick wall brick and I

2004
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 2: you know.

2005
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 1: You go high, you get a penalty because I was

2006
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:00,839
Speaker 1: playing corner at a corner blitz.

2007
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 2: Wait, he was playing corner. Yeah.

2008
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 1: I played corner with New England for a while, so

2009
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: I had a corner blitz and I was.

2010
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 2: Why don't I read? Why am I not played like

2011
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 2: four or five games at corner when we went to

2012
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 2: the Super four? Five games?

2013
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 3: You might have sound like it was a couple of years.

2014
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 3: It was the Super Bowl that year AFC Championship. I

2015
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 3: had like, why did you playing corner? We were we

2016
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 3: were getting guys off the street.

2017
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 2: I banged up guys hurt. I do remember this now,

2018
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 2: we were banged up? What was that like? He was

2019
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 2: playing corner my first my first slot receiver, trying to

2020
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 2: make the transition.

2021
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, my first game was against the Jets when

2022
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 1: LT was there, and my first play I had, I

2023
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 1: tackled him. I had tackled him. Went low, I heard him.

2024
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:47,560
Speaker 1: Actually I felt bad because I loved LT when he

2025
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 1: was on San Diego.

2026
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 2: That is crazy. I think I ended his career with

2027
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 2: an m c L. He retired after that. He was

2028
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 2: like old, Yeah he was old. LT was Jets. Yeah,

2029
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 2: the game retired him.

2030
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 3: Man, Well, you know, once we get to that, that's tough.

2031
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 2: That is tough. It's a hard position, and it's the

2032
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 2: position has been watered down.

2033
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 1: And you know what else is a hard position, being

2034
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 1: down six points at halftime twenty three to thirteen.

2035
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 2: What Pete say. Pete probably came in there with one

2036
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 2: of his chewing his guns, chewing his gun.

2037
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 3: One of his speeches, talking about like, let's just keep

2038
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 3: doing what we're gonna do, guys, and.

2039
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 2: We're gonna get him in a halftime. Oh.

2040
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 3: So this is what Pete loved to say. You always

2041
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 3: come in locker room doing this. Can you beat him

2042
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 3: in the first quarter? Everybody be like, no, can you

2043
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 3: beat him in the second quarter?

2044
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:32,680
Speaker 2: Oh?

2045
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:34,640
Speaker 3: I can beat him the third quarder? No, but can

2046
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 3: you beat him in four quart Let's go, let's fucking go.

2047
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 3: And so it was always his mindset of like four quarters,

2048
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 3: we got to play for four quarters, finish and everything

2049
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 3: that we did in practice was about finishing. So running

2050
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 3: backs would finish plays forty fifty yards after you've already

2051
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:51,719
Speaker 3: broke you know, pass the line, and you go score.

2052
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:53,600
Speaker 3: You gotta go score a touchdown every single time. This

2053
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 3: is in practice, So you running like fifty yards every

2054
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 3: time you got the football, and practice and so just

2055
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 3: that mindset of finishing every play, finishing every rep, you know,

2056
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 3: that's that was our mindset and every single game we

2057
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 3: went into and that's that's part of the reason why

2058
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 3: we were able to come back in the second half.

2059
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 2: In every game, this during the who's the guy at halftime?

2060
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 1: Let's paint the picture his offense defense separated, you guys

2061
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 1: doing so, you guys are separated. Who's the guy when

2062
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:24,719
Speaker 1: everyone comes together? That's making who's talking on this team?

2063
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Who's the guy that say? You know, who's the.

2064
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 2: There's always that guy. It was always Pete, Pete.

2065
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 3: There's no player. Who's the player? It was Cushion doing

2066
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 3: over the defense. Crazy as a young bud. He can't

2067
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 3: say nothing. He ain't have enough respect yet, you know

2068
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

2069
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 2: But you know you got to earn your star when

2070
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 2: you were young.

2071
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 3: When the guy had the stripes liner uh Lindell not

2072
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 3: use Our entire team was raw rock, you know.

2073
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

2074
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 3: Like we were all amped up, crazy young, Like all

2075
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 3: we were about was just getting it popping, you know

2076
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and getting on the football field, hitting

2077
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 3: somebody in the mouth.

2078
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:06,799
Speaker 2: Our defense, all they all talked about was just hitting

2079
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 2: somebody in the mouth. You know what I'm saying.

2080
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,879
Speaker 3: Having that mindset of like trying to literally knocking guys

2081
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:15,799
Speaker 3: on their backs, right, and not trying to end guys careers.

2082
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 3: Because when I say this and that, everybody don't understand this.

2083
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 3: But like literally when you say taking somebody's head off,

2084
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 3: we understand like that you're not trying to end.

2085
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 2: The guy's career. But it's literally trying to go in

2086
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:31,600
Speaker 2: there and tattoo somebody. Motherfuckers are trying to end people's careers.

2087
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 1: Get out of here. Who were kids. You were taught

2088
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:35,600
Speaker 1: to put your helmet right on that guy's.

2089
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 2: Helmet or that guy's helmet. Now whatever happens to him

2090
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 2: after that is not on you. Yeah, but this is

2091
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 2: the nature of the game. People out there back in

2092
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 2: the day, somebody's head off.

2093
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 3: But I don't literally am not trying to end your career,

2094
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Because we understand that within

2095
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 3: the physical play of it, people can get injured.

2096
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 2: When you get hurt, and so that's just the nature.

2097
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,680
Speaker 2: It's a jungle, it is what it is.

2098
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 3: This ain't basketball, all right, This ain't this ain't even

2099
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 3: hockey all right. Football is a jungle inside those trenches

2100
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 3: in between those linebackers, d lineman, offensive linemen and running

2101
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 3: backs and tight ends.

2102
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 2: It's a jungle in there.

2103
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 3: What are you shaking your head over there for Kyler Hockey?

2104
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 3: You know, hockey is a tough sport.

2105
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 2: No, Uh, hockey is a tough Sportfuckers are flying.

2106
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 3: There's more competent, it's more hitting and football. Okay, let

2107
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 3: me just say this. If they let football players fight

2108
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 3: like hockey players, what do you think is gonna happen?

2109
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers are Yeah, it would be hilarious on nice thing.

2110
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's already you already got one difference right there.

2111
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 3: We can't fight like that because if we did, somebody

2112
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 3: gonna get hurt.

2113
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 2: Somebody gonna be in the hospital. I promise you J. J.

2114
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:43,599
Speaker 2: Watts have a hockey player. Ain't no refs going Remember

2115
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:44,600
Speaker 2: when uh.

2116
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 1: What's his name from Houston fought Andre Johnson.

2117
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 2: You can't punch a face mask, No you cannot. That's

2118
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 2: why you gotta rip helmet off, rip hit again.

2119
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 1: It's like d two mighty dugs love shirt helmet or whatever.

2120
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:04,559
Speaker 2: You know. I go up to the Compton and get

2121
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 2: fucking tied up.

2122
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 3: The other thing that is crazy about our game that

2123
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:11,679
Speaker 3: we play is that there's no weight class. When you box,

2124
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 3: you fight somebody in your weight class. In football, I

2125
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 3: had to fucking face Vince will Fork playing these dudes.

2126
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:20,679
Speaker 3: Vince hold on, let me tell you a story about

2127
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 3: Vince though.

2128
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:21,719
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

2129
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 3: One time me and Mayle was about to get into

2130
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 3: a fight after a play. This is when I was

2131
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 3: in Miami and I was running the shells ball that

2132
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 3: year and Vince. It was it was like a little

2133
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 3: like a little brawl, like a little mini brawl, like

2134
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 3: a couple of guys getting into it. But me and

2135
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 3: Mayle was like at the center of it. Vince came

2136
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 3: over there and literally his presence like broke it up

2137
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 3: and like in sync, everybody turn around and went to

2138
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:44,759
Speaker 3: the huddle offense and defense. It was like the parting

2139
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 3: of the Red sea. Like once he came over there,

2140
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 3: it was like, all right, you're right. You know, it's

2141
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 3: like go back.

2142
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 1: It's like a lion fighting a fucking gazelle, and all

2143
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:56,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the rhino walks out the Yeah, exactly.

2144
01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:56,640
Speaker 2: You know.

2145
01:41:56,680 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 3: The rhinos a bad motherfucker out there. They don't say nothing,

2146
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 3: They all just all right. That fight stopped so quick

2147
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 3: on the dime, I was like, yeah, all right, you

2148
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 3: got it.

2149
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna go ahead and go to our sides and

2150
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 2: get back to the game.

2151
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 4: This uh, wrapping up this game. Fifty to forty two

2152
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 4: is the final score. Ye I love I love Pete.

2153
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 4: Carroll's kind of like a peteism after this when he

2154
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 4: said Reggie was firing and roaring all night.

2155
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 2: Like I got Pete talks. His addiction is hilarious to me. Man.

2156
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 2: That summed it up for me.

2157
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 3: You know, it was one of those games where one

2158
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,280
Speaker 3: they fed me the ball a lot, and you know,

2159
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 3: everything was was working right.

2160
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:40,520
Speaker 2: The return game was working.

2161
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:44,719
Speaker 3: Really well, catching them edges, catching them edges and hitting

2162
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 3: them seams on pump returns and kick returns, catching the

2163
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 3: ball out of backfield and then running the football obviously

2164
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 3: as well.

2165
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 2: This is one of the games where they really fed

2166
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 2: me the rock, you know.

2167
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 3: And I don't want to say that this was a

2168
01:42:57,520 --> 01:42:59,959
Speaker 3: game where it was like just one of those magical performances.

2169
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 3: Is because I went into every game with the same mindset,

2170
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 3: the same mindset I had here was the same mindset

2171
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 3: I had in that Texas game against Hawaii, against Arizona State.

2172
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 3: It didn't matter, but this is one of those games

2173
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 3: where everything was working, and every time they fed me

2174
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 3: the ball, it was just like my offensive line just

2175
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:18,560
Speaker 3: I mean, big holes, you know, opportunities.

2176
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 2: It was just it was it was open.

2177
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 1: You said your mindset you probably you know in college

2178
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 1: your mindset was I'm the baddest motherfucker on the field

2179
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 1: anytime I stepped on. Now did that mindset change when

2180
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 1: you got to the league and everyone was fucking that guy?

2181
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2182
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:37,679
Speaker 3: Quick, like my first preseason game had changed Himmy university

2183
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:38,720
Speaker 3: a lot of himmies.

2184
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

2185
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 3: So my first preseason game was against the Dallas Cowboys

2186
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 3: and they had DeMarcus where and.

2187
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 2: Drew through a wide route to me.

2188
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:54,719
Speaker 3: And now usually I outrun defensive ends easy in college level,

2189
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 3: easy outrun defensive vans. And it was I think we're

2190
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,679
Speaker 3: on the five yard line, so we were about to score.

2191
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 3: This boy tackled me on the four yard line, mind you,

2192
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 3: and I had a step on him and caught me

2193
01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 3: and and and once that happened, I was like, oh,

2194
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 3: it's different up here.

2195
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 2: Now. How did you have to change? How did you

2196
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 2: have to change? Would you? How did it prepare you?

2197
01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 2: So I had to change my mindset with the.

2198
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 3: Read, with the way that I read the defense and

2199
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:26,680
Speaker 3: with the way that I approach running the football in

2200
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 3: between tackles. Because at the college level, you can get

2201
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 3: away without running people right. You can get away with,

2202
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 3: you know, just flying past somebody.

2203
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 2: You can get away with some of those holes you know.

2204
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 3: About as wide as this this room right here. But

2205
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:43,719
Speaker 3: at the NFL level, it's that quick. That hole opens

2206
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 3: and closes that quick, and if you're not in there

2207
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 3: when it opens and closes, you're gonna get hit behind

2208
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage.

2209
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 1: And it's always fun because I would always watch the

2210
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 1: young running backs and you'd see, you know, a kid

2211
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 1: come in who's probably the fastest, the best sky and

2212
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 1: like you said, that whole opens up and you still

2213
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 1: you see that whole in the NFL.

2214
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 2: But because of what you used to be able to

2215
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 2: do in college, or you could just run through it,

2216
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 2: you could beat it.

2217
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 1: In the NFL, those d linemen and those those linebackers

2218
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 1: are two gap in you. So you have to manipulate

2219
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 1: those guys and you have to you have to help

2220
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 1: your linemen, your double teams, and you have to you

2221
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 1: have to bring it to a certain level and cut

2222
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 1: like right off of his ass, which the coaches always say,

2223
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:33,679
Speaker 1: and guys always say pause, But that's what they would

2224
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 1: always say.

2225
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 2: You got cut off, you know what I mean.

2226
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 1: So you have to and you get impatient when you're

2227
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 1: a young guys sometimes, So that's like a learning thing absolutely.

2228
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 2: So I had to be more patient.

2229
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 3: I had to pay more attention to the details with

2230
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 3: the offensive line, with our schemes, with how to manipulate

2231
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 3: the defense, and those were all things that I hadn't

2232
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 3: mastered yet, you know. And so I was a great athlete, right,

2233
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:01,560
Speaker 3: I was a space player, you know. And again in

2234
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 3: USC we got five star players, are playing Hawaii. The

2235
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:06,000
Speaker 3: hole is gonna be wide open, you know what I'm saying,

2236
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 3: Like when you're playing some of these other teams that just.

2237
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:10,639
Speaker 2: Don't have the same caliber of athletes as you.

2238
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,600
Speaker 3: That we don't have that in NFL, right, there's not

2239
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 3: There's not one team that has a bunch of fire

2240
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 3: star players and another team has a couple like three

2241
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 3: star players. Everybody. It's a league of all stars. Every team,

2242
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 3: even the teams that maybe have the worst league still

2243
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 3: have all star players on their team. And so it

2244
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:29,639
Speaker 3: doesn't matter.

2245
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,879
Speaker 2: Who you play back the Niners.

2246
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 3: I need to see it was on a roster roster,

2247
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 3: first roster before I make that.

2248
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 1: You know, what, what would your advice be to the

2249
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:46,880
Speaker 1: new player coming out which is completely different than us?

2250
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 2: We were at the very beginning.

2251
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 1: We were the first guys in the locker room with

2252
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 1: the fucking Internet and the phones and the social like.

2253
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,599
Speaker 1: That was our first shot. We were that generation. It's

2254
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 1: kind of completely different with the nil and all all

2255
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 1: what's going on in callege football, the transfer and io.

2256
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 2: What would your advice be to a young football player,

2257
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:08,799
Speaker 2: young running back coming out right now? So running backs

2258
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 2: and find another job, find a position list because you

2259
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 2: would flourish. You're a McCaffrey. You're basically the original McCaffrey.

2260
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 2: Hear me, and hear me clearly.

2261
01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:23,759
Speaker 1: There's only a couple guys that had a thousand thousand.

2262
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:28,760
Speaker 1: I think you, Roger Craig and someone else. I think

2263
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:31,760
Speaker 1: McCaffrey may have done it. And you know, it's just

2264
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 1: the game's changed.

2265
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 3: You've got to pay attention to the game and pay

2266
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 3: attention to where the direction that the game is going.

2267
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 2: It's a passing league now.

2268
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:43,520
Speaker 3: And this is one thing that I've always thought about.

2269
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 3: If I could go back, I would have made a

2270
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 3: shift to slot receiver about halfway through my career, well,

2271
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 3: and I would have played probably ten more years, made

2272
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 3: a lot more money. And this is and this is

2273
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 3: why I say that, because at the NFL level, we

2274
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 3: know that running backs get one down, right And I

2275
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 3: think about b johonn Robinson right now, right when I

2276
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 3: think about this, because I also came.

2277
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 2: Into the league with a ton of speed. You know,

2278
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:09,560
Speaker 2: all the accolades in the world.

2279
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 3: And it only took one injury, one knee injury on

2280
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 3: that field turf too.

2281
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 2: Then you're on the clock. You know what I'm saying.

2282
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:17,559
Speaker 2: You tear a PCL.

2283
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 3: I tore my PCO two thousand and seven, my second

2284
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:22,599
Speaker 3: year in the NFL, so we bought out my rookie year.

2285
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 3: My first year there, we went to the NFC Championship Game,

2286
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 3: lost to Chicago Bears.

2287
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 2: At that point, I'm thinking like, oh, we're going to

2288
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl next year.

2289
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 3: Next year, tear my PCL the next year after that,

2290
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 3: I focused on just getting strong as I could, coming

2291
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 3: back as strong as I could. The issue with that

2292
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 3: is you don't pay attention to the flexibility side of it,

2293
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 3: and you don't get to be better football player, you're

2294
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 3: worried about getting healthy exactly, and so one. And I

2295
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:51,160
Speaker 3: had never been injured before. So once I started going

2296
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 3: through those injuries, it was a very very tough place

2297
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 3: for me to be because I just wasn't used to it.

2298
01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 2: And so I tore my PCL.

2299
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:00,599
Speaker 3: Then the next year tore my medium moniscus and then

2300
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 3: had to get microfracture surgery.

2301
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:05,880
Speaker 2: And that's year four of my career.

2302
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:08,759
Speaker 3: So I'm at this point now, year four, where doctors

2303
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 3: are like, you probably got about another three years left.

2304
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 3: So now I'm like, damn, Like my entire career is

2305
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 3: flashing before my eyes, and I'm thinking that I may

2306
01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 3: not be able to play this game like myself anymore.

2307
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:26,640
Speaker 3: Like there's going to be a significant difference, you know,

2308
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 3: from the special player that I was at USC and

2309
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 3: my rookie year. And so for running backs, just understanding

2310
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 3: running backs get hurt a lot, and it's the nature

2311
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 3: of the position. Is the reason why owners don't want

2312
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 3: to pay the position until we get guaranteed NFL contracts.

2313
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 3: You know, it's going to be a position that you're

2314
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 3: not going to have a lot of leverage. You're just

2315
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:52,200
Speaker 3: not And you know, I think Saquon Barkley is a

2316
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 3: good example of that, right, Like Saquon is as great

2317
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 3: a running back, you know, as anybody. And it only

2318
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 3: took one injury, you know, one knee injury for them

2319
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:05,880
Speaker 3: to to to start to devalue him and you know

2320
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:08,599
Speaker 3: to the point to where he not gonna see another

2321
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 3: big contract.

2322
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen, you know.

2323
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:14,559
Speaker 3: And it's unfortunate because it's just the nature of the beast,

2324
01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 3: on the nature of the beasts of that position. And

2325
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 3: when I look and why I say, I would have

2326
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 3: made a switch to slot receivers because you go from

2327
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 3: running against you know, seven guys in the box versus

2328
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 3: if I break one tackle, I got the safe.

2329
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 2: I gotta break the safety tackle, maybe a con that's it.

2330
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 3: And all these guys also are around the same weight

2331
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:36,680
Speaker 3: as me, you know what I'm saying, And so I'm

2332
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 3: not getting hit by these big ass linebackers, these d

2333
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:40,799
Speaker 3: linemen in the trenches.

2334
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 2: Which is you know again, can you do it? Yes? Right?

2335
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 3: And can you do it? And can you do it?

2336
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:48,599
Speaker 3: Can you sustain it? Is the thing?

2337
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:49,120
Speaker 2: Right?

2338
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 3: How many you know running backs have we seen, you

2339
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:58,760
Speaker 3: know recently that have had three four year runs of greatness, right,

2340
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 3: usually like they peak and then drop.

2341
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 2: You know, right away we saw Nick Chubb.

2342
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 3: Man, I hate to seeing Nick Chubb get hurt because

2343
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb is a dog and he's a beast.

2344
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:11,639
Speaker 2: He's a professional too. I never heard anything from him

2345
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:13,440
Speaker 2: and goes.

2346
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 3: And that's that's all it takes is for that to happen.

2347
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 3: And then everybody else in the league gets the value

2348
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 3: only because a player like that gets hurt, right, And

2349
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 3: so now other players can't go get big contracts because

2350
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:27,640
Speaker 3: they're like, well, the best player got hurt, you.

2351
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

2352
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 3: So I think for running backs coming out, I'm saying

2353
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:34,280
Speaker 3: all this to say, for running backs coming out, play

2354
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 3: more than one position. You know, learn how to play

2355
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:39,240
Speaker 3: slot receiver, because I would have been.

2356
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 2: A big slot receiver at two.

2357
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 3: Hundred and eight pounds, you know what I'm saying, two

2358
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 3: hundred and five pounds, and I also have that running

2359
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 3: back mentality. So what does that do to a safety

2360
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:50,160
Speaker 3: once I get to bamb my hands and it's open space,

2361
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

2362
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 2: You know, again, I just think running backs do more.

2363
01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 3: And that's why I played a lot of positions, is

2364
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 3: because I wanted to create as much value for myself,

2365
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 3: like you talked about it earlier, as possible. I never

2366
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:06,760
Speaker 3: wanted to be I didn't want there to be one

2367
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 3: situation where a coach didn't need me right kickoff, punt return,

2368
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 3: catching the ball to backfield, running the ball between tackles,

2369
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 3: or playing receiver like I wanted to do everything, and

2370
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:20,599
Speaker 3: I wanted to excel at that so that they couldn't

2371
01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:21,920
Speaker 3: take me off the football field.

2372
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:26,640
Speaker 1: And that's what you displayed here against Fresno State in

2373
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, in all three facets of the game,

2374
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:33,839
Speaker 1: through the air, on the ground, and in special teams. Jackie,

2375
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 1: what's the aftermath of this baby?

2376
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 4: After this game, the wheels fell off for Fresno State

2377
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 4: lost their final three games, lost to Tulsen and the

2378
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,959
Speaker 4: Liberty Bowl. USC went on to beat number eleven. UCLA

2379
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 4: finished the regular season undefeated, Reggie won the Heisman, and

2380
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 4: USC loss to Texas in that epic National championship game.

2381
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 2: Man, I was a dog five minute National Championship game.

2382
01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:59,040
Speaker 1: Have to save that for another one. Got to come

2383
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 1: back and talk with the PAC twelve. Are you sadr gone?

2384
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2385
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:07,679
Speaker 1: Man, it's on the officials. They're smugg the Pac twelve.

2386
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:10,839
Speaker 2: It's you know what, this is the state of college football.

2387
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 2: It's a mess. That's where it's at right now.

2388
01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:16,720
Speaker 3: And it's unfortunate to see that because there are too

2389
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,800
Speaker 3: many chefs in the kitchen, too many people trying to

2390
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 3: make decisions on the most basic simple things like why

2391
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 3: don't we have a true playoff system?

2392
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 2: Right?

2393
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 3: The NFL would never be caught in a situation like

2394
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 3: this right where Georgia gets penalized five spots for losing

2395
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:37,880
Speaker 3: a game in the last five seconds, you know what

2396
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:42,679
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and not being a playoffs and Alabama jumping

2397
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 3: for spots.

2398
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 2: You know, it's just it's all crazy, man. It literally

2399
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense.

2400
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 3: And when you say that, there's people in a room

2401
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 3: making this decision that's already worries me.

2402
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 2: They already I'm already worried because they did they play?

2403
01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 2: Did they play the game? Like? They have ten year

2404
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 2: careers in the league.

2405
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 3: And so he's an AI, Now, dude, that's she's doing

2406
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:11,679
Speaker 3: it is AI is artificial intelligence, and they're making business

2407
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:14,679
Speaker 3: decisions based on you know, college football players careers.

2408
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 2: And that's what I always think about.

2409
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 3: I think about the players careers that are being penalized,

2410
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:24,720
Speaker 3: you know, because Florida State should be in the playoffs, right,

2411
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 3: they earned the right to be there. You should not

2412
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:30,640
Speaker 3: be penalized because of one player not being able to

2413
01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:33,000
Speaker 3: play because he got hurt, not because he don't want

2414
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 3: to play, because he got hurt, which is the natural

2415
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 3: part of the game. And I know sometimes there's pushback

2416
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 3: on that because they're like, oh, we don't want to

2417
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 3: see another TCU Georgia, Right, but what about the integrity

2418
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 3: of the game.

2419
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, hold on, I'm so glad you just

2420
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 2: said that. I'm so glad you said that. Hold on

2421
01:54:57,720 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 2: for context, hold on for context.

2422
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 5: This episode is airing the day after the New Year's

2423
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 5: or the New Year's Day games. All right, so like

2424
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 5: we're talking from the past, but not yet the championship game.

2425
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 2: Just now you talking about would you just tell you

2426
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 2: called it what fairy tales? No, there's no fairy tale ending.

2427
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 3: The fairy tale endings right now? What about the next

2428
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 3: man up mentality? Right, somebody gets hurt, the next guy

2429
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 3: comes in right steps up. Now we're saying the fairy

2430
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 3: tale ending because of one player. We're talking about one

2431
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 3: player that got hurt the quarterbacks.

2432
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:34,640
Speaker 1: Kids trim like Georgia who's eighteen, who's been playing Fortnite

2433
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 1: for the last four months because he didn't think he

2434
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 1: was gonna play because they got an unbelievable quarterback and

2435
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 1: this kid's gonna come in and try to beat Alabama.

2436
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:47,160
Speaker 3: Okay, what about a slot receiver making a shift to

2437
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 3: play corner on a year you win the Super Bowl,

2438
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 3: you talk about the next man up mentality?

2439
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 2: You literally did it? Team win a championship. You tell

2440
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 2: him we lost lost, We lost the Giants.

2441
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 3: Okay, but she won a bunch of other one So

2442
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 3: boo fucking who I want to hear it? You still

2443
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:06,080
Speaker 3: had that next man up mentality?

2444
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:08,800
Speaker 2: We did, and we got to the championship. We lost,

2445
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 2: We lost of the four in it. Who are you

2446
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 2: picking to win it already? I mean Alabama? You know

2447
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 2: Kent State.

2448
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:23,680
Speaker 3: Alabama's represented through Alabama because Nick Saban.

2449
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 1: Nick Saban went to Kent State. He's our biggest donor.

2450
01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 1: You know, uh, I think it gives like five grande

2451
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 1: a year.

2452
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:36,840
Speaker 2: I think did hold on hold on? Did Urban Meyer

2453
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:39,640
Speaker 2: coach at Kin State? No, he went to Bowling Green.

2454
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 2: He was at Bowling Green. We have home.

2455
01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 1: We had Jack Lambert, we had Josh Creams came from

2456
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,000
Speaker 1: our school. James Harrison.

2457
01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:50,840
Speaker 2: Huh Josh Antonio Gates.

2458
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 1: Are you talking about coaches? And then coaches Saban and

2459
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:55,959
Speaker 1: Holtz they both played.

2460
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 2: All right, so it was a different team. So here's

2461
01:56:57,520 --> 01:56:57,960
Speaker 2: what happened.

2462
01:56:57,960 --> 01:57:01,720
Speaker 5: Florida State beat the ship at a Georgia yesterday and

2463
01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 5: they're gonna split the national title. That's what's happened. What

2464
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 5: that's the future prediction. Yeah, Florida State and Georgia. No,

2465
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,520
Speaker 5: Florida State beat Georgia and the Orange Ball and they're

2466
01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:13,880
Speaker 5: gonna split the national championship.

2467
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 2: You heard was gonna win. We split the national championship

2468
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 2: my my freshman year and.

2469
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 6: Auburn ls L s U T loss l s U

2470
01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:30,480
Speaker 6: Saban we we split co national champs and two that

2471
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 6: which is the dumbest thing ever.

2472
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 3: But again, this is the college college football. It's unbelievable, ridiculous.

2473
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 2: So college football.

2474
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 3: Last final question for this, who's your top five running

2475
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 3: backs of all time in college football?

2476
01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 2: Top five? I can't put myself in. We're gonna take me. Yeah,

2477
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:57,160
Speaker 2: you don't have to number it, but I will. According

2478
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 2: to got I gotta put.

2479
01:57:58,120 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 3: Barry Sanders in there, Ricky Williams. Hold on, do you

2480
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 3: not know I got a backtrack? Now, hold on, juice

2481
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:07,760
Speaker 3: O Jackson, Oh Jackson, Yeah.

2482
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:13,840
Speaker 2: I gotta put bo Jackson in there. Love don't fit. Listen.

2483
01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 2: J was a bad man in cause he was insane.

2484
01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:23,000
Speaker 3: Boy was nasty on the football field and off and off. Yeah,

2485
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 3: you're right and off the field. Uh, but I can't

2486
01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 3: put you. I can't put juice in. I can't put

2487
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 3: juice in there. But I love the juice man this

2488
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:33,760
Speaker 3: when he was on the football field.

2489
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:36,000
Speaker 2: On the field, on the field, on the field. Now,

2490
01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:42,160
Speaker 2: all right, I like you. I want to hear it,

2491
01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 2: all right, but no, I like apple juice.

2492
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:47,840
Speaker 1: Let's go to the segment where we name the game

2493
01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 1: and we score the game presented by Winning Bet. The

2494
01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:54,560
Speaker 1: name of the game is the Reggie Bush Game? Or

2495
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 1: do you think it should be the five fifty three

2496
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 1: game or five thirteen game or another game or another game?

2497
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 2: What do you name the game? Score the This is

2498
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:04,680
Speaker 2: what's the name of the game. Name of the game?

2499
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:06,880
Speaker 2: Bush Game? All right, the Bush Game?

2500
01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 1: So we score the game presented by win Bet. Is

2501
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:13,280
Speaker 1: this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it

2502
01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 1: staks zero to ten decimals, okay, one to ten on

2503
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:21,040
Speaker 1: the stakes of this game, Fresno.

2504
01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 2: Ten being the highest. Huh, which one's the highest?

2505
01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 3: Ten?

2506
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:27,880
Speaker 2: Ten is the highest? Car Where does Fresno state rank? No?

2507
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:32,000
Speaker 2: Where does the stakes of this game rings the ten? Ten? Ten? Well?

2508
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:34,360
Speaker 5: Hold on, hold on, hold on. This is a regular

2509
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 5: season game. Yeah, you got the winning streak going on here. Sure,

2510
01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 5: but like we're talking undefeated Super Bowls as the stakes

2511
01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:44,160
Speaker 5: of a game, We're talking like game seven of an

2512
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 5: NBA or NHL final.

2513
01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:49,320
Speaker 2: This isn't like, you know, let's say Texas US the

2514
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:51,440
Speaker 2: championship game, the Heisman Trophy was on. It was a

2515
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:54,400
Speaker 2: stake if you lose this with no natty exactly, That's

2516
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:56,360
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And Heisman Trophy is at stake too,

2517
01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 2: So sticking with ten. I'm sticking with ten. He's going

2518
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:04,280
Speaker 2: with ten. One with ten man star power, star power

2519
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:08,720
Speaker 2: in crowd on game, who's in this field? Star power

2520
02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:11,800
Speaker 2: for our games or for this specific game that specific

2521
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 2: that it's like a nine, put a nine, We'll put

2522
02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:15,880
Speaker 2: a nine.

2523
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:22,120
Speaker 3: Put the gameplay of the game zero to ten decimals, Okay, ten, ten,

2524
02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:25,960
Speaker 3: it's ten, ten and a highlight shootout, that's a ten.

2525
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 5: Statue of Liberty Game, that's a ten. This is a shootout,

2526
02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:32,200
Speaker 5: so it's not ten. Well, I mean it's your it's

2527
02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:34,160
Speaker 5: your opportunity to score. I'm just trying to keep some

2528
02:00:34,240 --> 02:00:36,880
Speaker 5: integrity in the games with names power integrity.

2529
02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:42,560
Speaker 3: Huh we talking about the juice.

2530
02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:47,720
Speaker 2: You can do that out the goddamn door. Let mister

2531
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:48,920
Speaker 2: Bush rank this.

2532
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 3: Game game play was at My gameplay was out of ten.

2533
02:00:54,880 --> 02:00:57,880
Speaker 2: Five hundred. That's a ten. That's a ten.

2534
02:00:58,520 --> 02:01:01,840
Speaker 1: Name of the game. What do you mean the name

2535
02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 1: of the game? Zero out of ten? The Bush game,

2536
02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm like a four or five?

2537
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:08,120
Speaker 2: That was like a five, five, five, It goes five.

2538
02:01:08,240 --> 02:01:09,200
Speaker 2: So what is our average?

2539
02:01:09,240 --> 02:01:11,480
Speaker 1: And where does it stand in the games that we've

2540
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:13,440
Speaker 1: done here on games with names, folks?

2541
02:01:14,280 --> 02:01:16,840
Speaker 2: What is it eight point five? And where does eight

2542
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:18,400
Speaker 2: point five go on the Richter scale?

2543
02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:21,520
Speaker 4: That is right between the statue of Liberty Game and

2544
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:24,520
Speaker 4: the Patriots Falcons twenty eight to three.

2545
02:01:25,040 --> 02:01:27,320
Speaker 2: See what I'm talking about when I say integrity, I mean,

2546
02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:29,520
Speaker 2: how was I supposed to know you're gonna have those

2547
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:33,080
Speaker 2: fucking games up there? I mean, I mean, come on, man,

2548
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:34,280
Speaker 2: we're talking about record season game.

2549
02:01:34,280 --> 02:01:38,080
Speaker 3: I know you're gonna have it up against the the comeback,

2550
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:41,200
Speaker 3: like the comeback in the Super Bowl, Reggie, someone would say,

2551
02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:43,040
Speaker 3: you know, by the way, you had a dope ass

2552
02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:45,520
Speaker 3: catching a gain. I remember that shit, bro catch.

2553
02:01:45,560 --> 02:01:46,640
Speaker 2: I remember I met. I meant.

2554
02:01:46,760 --> 02:01:48,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if I ever told you, but I

2555
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:51,400
Speaker 3: was like, if I ever see Jules again, I need

2556
02:01:51,440 --> 02:01:53,760
Speaker 3: to tell him about that catch. That catch was ridiculous, Bro.

2557
02:01:53,800 --> 02:01:56,240
Speaker 3: And that was a catch that started the comeback.

2558
02:01:57,200 --> 02:02:00,000
Speaker 2: There was a lot of plays. There's a lot of plays.

2559
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:04,879
Speaker 2: You're gonna be modest, lot of plays, trade flowers, high tower.

2560
02:02:05,120 --> 02:02:08,400
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things that I remember it and

2561
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:11,240
Speaker 3: then it then it obviously was a great play because

2562
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:13,400
Speaker 3: CT is a real thing.

2563
02:02:13,600 --> 02:02:17,560
Speaker 2: I don't remember shit lately, so he doesn't. He doesn't lie.

2564
02:02:18,280 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 2: Real modest will say he messed up the route. It

2565
02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:21,600
Speaker 2: was a bad round a second.

2566
02:02:24,440 --> 02:02:26,080
Speaker 1: It was a shitty, sloppy route. It was like our

2567
02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:28,800
Speaker 1: ninety ninth play. We played a lot of plays.

2568
02:02:28,840 --> 02:02:31,600
Speaker 2: That game was on offense. That was crazy. That game

2569
02:02:31,640 --> 02:02:34,919
Speaker 2: was crazy. Well, Reggie, anything we miss.

2570
02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:39,440
Speaker 3: Uh from this game from the Fresno State game that

2571
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:41,680
Speaker 3: I can think about, this was the stamp.

2572
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:43,640
Speaker 2: This was the stamp this game.

2573
02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:48,200
Speaker 1: Man, this is this was the stamp to watching arguably

2574
02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:52,000
Speaker 1: the best college football player of all time. I appreciate it, man, No,

2575
02:02:52,120 --> 02:02:54,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming out. You gotta plug anything. You

2576
02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 1: got anything. Last time I saw you, you came and stayed

2577
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:58,800
Speaker 1: at my house in Boston. You had a backpack with

2578
02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:00,520
Speaker 1: speakers on that you were trying to selling me.

2579
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:02,960
Speaker 2: Now what do we got? This we got?

2580
02:03:03,160 --> 02:03:06,240
Speaker 3: Man, we didn't come along, bro that it came a

2581
02:03:06,280 --> 02:03:08,160
Speaker 3: long way.

2582
02:03:09,320 --> 02:03:10,240
Speaker 2: I was working with this.

2583
02:03:10,160 --> 02:03:13,840
Speaker 3: Company that the idea of it was kind of cool,

2584
02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:16,520
Speaker 3: but it was basically a back I don't even know

2585
02:03:16,600 --> 02:03:19,520
Speaker 3: what happened to this company. My money is gone, by

2586
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:22,000
Speaker 3: the way, my investment is gone. All right, we ain't

2587
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:24,920
Speaker 3: make no money on that investment. But the idea was

2588
02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:28,600
Speaker 3: a backpack that had these speakers in it, so you know,

2589
02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 3: it was kind of a smaller backpack so that when

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Speaker 3: you're listening to your music, you're getting like the full

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Speaker 3: effect of like it literally felt like you was inside

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Speaker 3: of a clue.

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Speaker 2: It had based on the back, yeah you or this

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Speaker 2: back thing. It had bass, so you're getting based and stuff.

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Speaker 2: I remember it knocking me around, like, man, appreciate it. It

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Speaker 2: was a cool gadget.

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Speaker 3: Toy was a toy, but it didn't work out, you know,

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Speaker 3: So what do you got now?

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Speaker 2: Though? So right now you see him rocking, Travis Matthew.

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Speaker 2: The swing is looking dialed, by the way. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, man. I appreciate I worked on it. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. I worked hard for that compliment too, right.

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Speaker 4: That's a top five compliment you can get, or I mean,

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Speaker 4: if anybody says that to me, I'm like.

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Speaker 3: So, I'm working with Travis Matthew and I'm gonna be

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Speaker 3: launching my own golf clothing line with the Travis Matthew brand,

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Speaker 3: which I'm very proud of. And it's my first opportunity

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Speaker 3: to step into the clothing designed business, which I've always

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Speaker 3: wanted to get into it.

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Speaker 2: I just never knew how it was going to happen.

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Speaker 3: And you know, through the grace of God and some opportunities,

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Speaker 3: you know, in the golf in the golf game and

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Speaker 3: golf space, which is where I'm I'm focusing a lot

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Speaker 3: of my attention is in the golf space. I'm able

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Speaker 3: to partner with someone like Travis Matthews. So we're gonna

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Speaker 3: be launching our clothing line, I'll get you some stuff.

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Speaker 1: You got it, I mean from the league too. It

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Speaker 1: looks comfortable, fashionable.

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Speaker 3: Comfortable, and it probably makes a couple of your strokes

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Speaker 3: go down.

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Speaker 2: That's where we're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Say, Travis, Matthew, guys, go check it out. It's coming huge.

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Speaker 1: Everyone loves it. Thank you Reggie for coming on. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. I'm a little sad that we didn't get

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Speaker 1: into the old fourteen stories, but we'll leave that for

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Speaker 1: another time.

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Speaker 3: Time.

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Speaker 1: And that's been another episode of Games with Names, presented

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