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Speaker 2: Morale is high. It's fake, but it's high right now. Yeah, absolutely, seams.
Speaker 2: Are you trying to get everybody up? Come on, everybody,
Speaker 2: let's hear it. I can't hear you.
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Speaker 2: So let's celebrate. But it's not a win or lose
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Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky will join us. He wins awards, he wins
Speaker 2: a lot of them. I'm like to know how big
Speaker 2: his trophy case is it's got to be a room
Speaker 2: because he's been getting trophies since he was probably seven
Speaker 2: or eight years old.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, I think I saw a feature on E
Speaker 5: sixty or something that Wayne Gretzky's father has like this
Speaker 5: house slash shrine to Wayne back in Canada.
Speaker 2: He maintains, Yes, I think he's got a shrine to
Speaker 2: his son.
Speaker 5: I can't imagine any trophies that guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and these aren't participatory trophies like my kids got.
Speaker 2: And then we finally just gave him the good will
Speaker 2: is there, Like you'd have all these trophies, but none
Speaker 2: of them for winning anything. Be like, oh, and because
Speaker 2: you competed in karate, here's a four foot trophy.
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Speaker 3: Todd one of the cast members of the very popular
Speaker 3: successful in Emmy Win NFL Live on ESPN, which kept
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Speaker 1: Daily Mister One, Dan.
Speaker 3: Or Latsky has just checked in to the top of
Speaker 3: the final hour.
Speaker 2: Here, Hey, Dan, no worry.
Speaker 6: I'm.
Speaker 7: Doing very well. How are you good, sir? Doing crampy yeah,
Speaker 7: I feel very poorly right now.
Speaker 6: Do you.
Speaker 7: I do?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: Do you think we deserved it?
Speaker 7: I think we deserved it as well. But you're a
Speaker 7: good man, and people you work with are good people,
Speaker 7: and I know there's only one winner, and it makes
Speaker 7: me feel awkward now talking to someone who didn't win.
Speaker 7: That was probably very deserting.
Speaker 2: You know what it's like when you throw a pick
Speaker 2: six or something, You know, when you you have a
Speaker 2: moment and you got a back from it. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: can you help us understand, like, how do we come
Speaker 2: back from such an embarrassing loss that we didn't win
Speaker 2: the Sports Emmy last night?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I think that you guys, you know, there's a couple
Speaker 7: of really good self helped books that might be out
Speaker 7: there that you can entertain too. Listen. I mean, we
Speaker 7: did win, and I woke up this morning and two
Speaker 7: of my four kids absolutely stunk this morning. So I
Speaker 7: had to deal with life moving forward as well, no
Speaker 7: matter we win or lose. So I looked at my
Speaker 7: wife after we dropped off our daughter's fool, I said, well,
Speaker 7: whether we won last night or loss, two of our
Speaker 7: four kids gave us absolute attitude this morning. So here
Speaker 7: we are.
Speaker 2: Well in all honesty, sincerity. Congratulations dan Orlowsky, ESPN analysts,
Speaker 2: part of NFL Live, former NFL quarterback. Let's say five
Speaker 2: years let's say ten years ago, I told you, you
Speaker 2: know what, You're going to be part of a show
Speaker 2: that wins sports Emmy. You would have said, what, You're
Speaker 2: out of your mind.
Speaker 7: There's no shot. I won't even be in TV. What
Speaker 7: is these sports Emmy? I didn't know they gave those.
Speaker 2: Out because I look at you and I keep thinking,
Speaker 2: you're an offensive coordinator in disguise. You know you're you're
Speaker 2: you're an analyst, But have you given up that dream
Speaker 2: of being a head coach or a coordinator.
Speaker 7: I don't think I've given it up. I think I
Speaker 7: you know, I want to be as always, I'm very
Speaker 7: honest and transparent. This is I felt in the last
Speaker 7: two years. It was probably the closest that calling had
Speaker 7: come for me as far as the desire and the poll,
Speaker 7: and probably after this past maybe four to six months,
Speaker 7: that is subsided and it's probably the furthest I've been
Speaker 7: away from that in a couple of years, just because
Speaker 7: of the reality of where we are with our life
Speaker 7: as a FA I've got you know, three seventh grade boys.
Speaker 7: I've got a fourth grade girl. My wife loves living
Speaker 7: where we live. We've made really good friends in town.
Speaker 7: I don't have the desire to uproot that right now,
Speaker 7: you know, with a with a want rather than a need,
Speaker 7: you know. Unfortunate some people have to do that because
Speaker 7: it's their only choice. I don't have to, and so,
Speaker 7: and I really love what I'm doing right now, you know, Dan,
Speaker 7: Like I think this process of going through being nominated
Speaker 7: and then being a part of last night, you know,
Speaker 7: it kind of I don't want to say re energize
Speaker 7: this because energy is not what I need. It makes
Speaker 7: me want to continue to climb things, you know. Like,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be honest with you. I was up for
Speaker 7: analysts of last night as well. I was furious for
Speaker 7: not winning. Furious. I was Everyone's like, it's an honor
Speaker 7: to be nominated. I get that, you know, Like, but
Speaker 7: I wanted to win that.
Speaker 6: I really did.
Speaker 7: And when Barkley won, I texted, I'm like, what the heck, dude?
Speaker 7: And I was bombed.
Speaker 6: I was bombed. My wife.
Speaker 7: I was like, I want to go. I was being
Speaker 7: a sore loser, a baby, and so like Uh, you know,
Speaker 7: like I want to win that one day. I really
Speaker 7: do so.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: It's it's been really cool to be a part of
Speaker 7: the team that won, and I like, do I love
Speaker 7: what I'm doing right.
Speaker 2: Now talking to dan Orlovsky of the Mothership the uh
Speaker 2: Push Push We're waiting supposed to be voted on any minute.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: What do you think? How does this play out?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it sounds like it's gonna get you know, it's
Speaker 7: gonna get past that, it's gonna get banned. I just
Speaker 7: caution everybody that there's gonna be consequences that come from
Speaker 7: this that no one's really looking at. If it goes
Speaker 7: back to the newest proposal, which is what Green Bay
Speaker 7: has put out there, I believe language wise that no
Speaker 7: offensive player can push or pull another offensive player. We're
Speaker 7: totally changing offensive football then, and this is about way
Speaker 7: more than just quarterback sneak. My mind goes to all
Speaker 7: of those plays that the ball carrier or whoever gets
Speaker 7: hit it like the three or four yard line, and
Speaker 7: then all of a sudden, the two are three offensive
Speaker 7: linemen come in. It becomes that will push you know,
Speaker 7: who's got more desire at that moment to get the
Speaker 7: ball across the goal line, because that play will now
Speaker 7: if the ruling gets passed, will go from a touchdown
Speaker 7: to then a penalty. And just so everybody understands, defensive
Speaker 7: players are caught. First guy, make the hit, wrap up, second, third,
Speaker 7: fourth guy, come in, hit, punch at the ball, put
Speaker 7: your helmet on the football. So now, from an offensive perspective,
Speaker 7: if this rule gets passed, I hand the ball off
Speaker 7: to my back and he gets hit at the four
Speaker 7: yard line, no one on my team can touch him
Speaker 7: from that point forward to push or pull. But the
Speaker 7: defense can come in and punch at the ball and
Speaker 7: rip at the ball and hit at the ball. Then
Speaker 7: we're changing football offensively in a way. And we're also
Speaker 7: changing some if we're being tended defenseless player situations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think Philadelphia is going to be extremely
Speaker 2: successful at a quarterback sneak because of Jalen hurt. There's
Speaker 2: nobody like Jalen Hurts in the NFL. Nobody who has
Speaker 2: that much lower lower body strength at that position can
Speaker 2: get that low And it's about leverage and I but
Speaker 2: they you know, the Eagles imported Jason Kelsey to be
Speaker 2: a lobbyist here at the owner's meetings. What could he
Speaker 2: possibly be saying to these other owners that are going
Speaker 2: to make them rethink their vote.
Speaker 7: I would imagine there's a little bit of the health
Speaker 7: part of it, you know, in him speaking on his
Speaker 7: own behalf or experience, because there's people who say there's
Speaker 7: health concerns or injury concerns, and so him sharing that,
Speaker 7: I think him sharing the unique ability to you know,
Speaker 7: the way that they coach it, the way that their
Speaker 7: interior offensive line does it. To your point, how Jalen
Speaker 7: Hurts executes it, and how you know, it's not a
Speaker 7: cheap play for them, but more is something that they've
Speaker 7: really perfected because of the way they coach and the
Speaker 7: people that they have. I'm sure it's an angle to
Speaker 7: try to educate the owners, maybe differently than oh, they're
Speaker 7: the only team that does this and it's unfair.
Speaker 2: How excited are you about the NFL being in the
Speaker 2: Olympics with flag football? How does this?
Speaker 7: I think it's really cool. I really do. I think
Speaker 7: it's very cool. My biggest takeaway is how smart the
Speaker 7: NFL is. It's brilliant. You know, if you listen to
Speaker 7: Commissioner Goodell and his words, he was saying, you know,
Speaker 7: this opens us up even more to men and women,
Speaker 7: all ages, all over the world. And so and now
Speaker 7: you're you're taking the game of football that many of
Speaker 7: US Americans know, and you're bringing a version of it
Speaker 7: to all parts of the world that maybe don't know
Speaker 7: a ton about it and maybe can feel that, oh,
Speaker 7: I could play football like Dan. I've always thought the
Speaker 7: protection the quarterback rule that changed years and years and
Speaker 7: years ago was about kids. It wasn't about you know,
Speaker 7: Eli Manning. It was about moms and dads letting their
Speaker 7: eight or ten year old son watch the game. Because
Speaker 7: the eight ten year old son the falls and level
Speaker 7: with football is going to be the thirty to forty
Speaker 7: year old who watches football, you know. And so it's
Speaker 7: a little bit of that. This is brilliant business, you know,
Speaker 7: stuff from the NFL, and it's you know these I
Speaker 7: said this, Yesterda NFL live. These players in the NFL,
Speaker 7: you climbed the highest mountain that you think you can climb.
Speaker 7: When it comes to your profession, you accomplish it, you
Speaker 7: can't go any further. And so now this gives them
Speaker 7: another mountain to climb, another challenge to go accomplish. How
Speaker 7: rare it would be to be a person that is
Speaker 7: an NFL professional player, an MVP, a World champion, and
Speaker 7: then an Olympic champion. That's I think it's very cool.
Speaker 2: Okay, but how many players will play for Team USA?
Speaker 2: Who are NFL players? The team that will play represent US?
Speaker 2: If we're trying to win a gold medal? How many
Speaker 2: players will get that opportunity?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it seems probably half a dozen, you know, maybe
Speaker 7: maybe ten. You know, by my understanding, you got to
Speaker 7: try out. So how many guys are going to be
Speaker 7: willing to just go try out? Because, let's be honest,
Speaker 7: there's an ego element to these guys as well. We
Speaker 7: all believe that we're the best and whatnot. Two, you
Speaker 7: can only have one player per NFL team, per country,
Speaker 7: I believe. So that means that Brian Branch and Jamier Gibbs,
Speaker 7: both Lions, cannot play for the United States. Okay, you know,
Speaker 7: so that limits your pool just a little bit.
Speaker 2: Okay, are you going to have thirty two players competing
Speaker 2: for ten roster spots on Team USA? Like football? Is
Speaker 2: that how this plays out? No?
Speaker 7: I don't think so. I mean, how many quarterbacks are
Speaker 7: actually going to go try and do it. You know
Speaker 7: how many our receivers you know, will be you know,
Speaker 7: willing to do it. I'm sure there are going to
Speaker 7: be some organizations that are a little bit cautious on it.
Speaker 7: I know they all voted in favor of it. We'll
Speaker 7: see how they feel about it in three years when
Speaker 7: it's their Super Bowl window and it's their star receiver
Speaker 7: that they're concerned about and whatnot. So I don't know
Speaker 7: there'd be thirty two, but I do think that there's
Speaker 7: going to be a decent amount of guys, at least
Speaker 7: initially interested in that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Can I submit this for next year's Sports Emmy
Speaker 2: having you on it, having one and agreeing that we
Speaker 2: deserve to win the Sports Emmy?
Speaker 7: Yeah, you could submit it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you could submit it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I'm out a round of applause. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it should be a very interesting NFL Live episode later
Speaker 2: today for you, Dan.
Speaker 7: No, I'm bet you're not on today.
Speaker 2: Good for you.
Speaker 7: I'm not on today, I'm not. My sons have a
Speaker 7: big lacrosse last regular season lacrosse game tonight, so I
Speaker 7: don't want to miss that.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and congrats again.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 7: Sir, I appreciate you. You're a legend.
Speaker 2: You know that, So thank you, thank you. That's uh.
Speaker 2: Dana Loosky. Yeah, I've taken care of my part of this.
Speaker 2: I'm the legend. It's the other part that's the problem.
Speaker 2: I'm a Hall of Famer. The show is in the
Speaker 2: Hall of very good. You know what, maybe I go
Speaker 2: work for NFL.
Speaker 1: Seriously.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is true because even when the Radio Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame came calling, they inducted you and not the
Speaker 4: show was like the Breakfast Club is in the Tommy
Speaker 4: TJ Show, the Jimmy and Skippy Show, Sally and the
Speaker 4: Commander's Show.
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick, Yeah, you are the Hall of Fame. Bob
Speaker 2: and Tom are getting in, not Dan and the Dan. Yes, Marvin, but.
Speaker 3: You're going to the Hall of Fame for your influence,
Speaker 3: very much like Vince Carter.
Speaker 2: I'm the Vince Carter of sports radio.
Speaker 4: So I Pat McAfee and their show wins the radio
Speaker 4: on sports are on TV.
Speaker 6: Emmy or Dan Levatard.
Speaker 2: No, they're not gonna win one. I'm not without Stu
Speaker 2: got all right, all right, let me take a break.
Speaker 2: Let's clean this up. Wayne Gretzky is gonna join us
Speaker 2: the great one. Oh dear, let's take a break. We're
Speaker 2: back after this.
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Speaker 2: Pacers at the next game one tonight you have the
Speaker 2: Oilers at the Stars game one. Last night, Panthers rolled
Speaker 2: the Hurricanes five. Two more phone calls coming up. Well
Speaker 2: make way for Wayne Gretzky, the Hall of Famer, part
Speaker 2: of Turner's sports coverage of the Stanley Cup Final. He'll
Speaker 2: be in attendance for all the games. Wayna, good to
Speaker 2: see you again. How you feeling?
Speaker 6: I feel older, but it's great to see you. You know,
Speaker 6: when you get your two youngest kids graduating college the
Speaker 6: same week, you know you're getting old. So Thursday NYU,
Speaker 6: Friday SMU, and onto the Stanley Cup Semis and the finals.
Speaker 2: Now, could you give me a shift on the ice?
Speaker 6: No, I'll tell you what happened about the age of
Speaker 6: fifty seven. I was playing in a charity game and
Speaker 6: I came back and I threw my bag down the
Speaker 6: hotel room and I said to my wife, that's the
Speaker 6: last time I'm ever going to skate, and she goes,
Speaker 6: what do you mean? I said, I was scared to death.
Speaker 6: I was going to fall and hurt myself. And you
Speaker 6: can't play this game with fear, right, So it was
Speaker 6: time for me to officially retire, even though I retired
Speaker 6: at the age of thirty nine, but I stayed every
Speaker 6: now and then my son's hockey schools and I get
Speaker 6: on the ice, but I don't play in charity games anymore.
Speaker 6: I don't trust myself out there.
Speaker 2: But that's what makes what yarm or ynger or Gordi,
Speaker 2: how did listen?
Speaker 6: It's amazing, GORDI how got twenty goals in the NHL
Speaker 6: at the age of fifty? Think about that.
Speaker 2: Amo Yager.
Speaker 6: I don't know. He's got to be fifty eight. I
Speaker 6: don't even know how hold he is. And he's still
Speaker 6: playing games, although he told me one day he said,
Speaker 6: I only play the home games now, though I said, well,
Speaker 6: you're arrested. And Chris Jellio has played the fifty years
Speaker 6: old and the way he played he was a maniac
Speaker 6: at the age of twenty and the age of fifty,
Speaker 6: So I have great admiration for older players, older athletes
Speaker 6: who have excelled, Guys like Tom Brady, guys like Lebron.
Speaker 6: It's pretty remarkable that you can go on at that
Speaker 6: age because, you know, Dan, you've been around sports a
Speaker 6: long time. The athletes are better today. They're bigger, they're stronger,
Speaker 6: the coaching is better. And that's not a knock to
Speaker 6: the past. That's just progression. Right twenty years from now,
Speaker 6: it's going to be better today. It's different. Every sport
Speaker 6: is different than it used to be. But the athletes
Speaker 6: I think are better today.
Speaker 2: Did you lift weights?
Speaker 6: Brad Hall had the greatest line of all. Somebody said
Speaker 6: to him, you lift weights, and he said, I've never
Speaker 6: seen a bar bell score, but I've seen a lot
Speaker 6: of We used to do a training camp. We would
Speaker 6: come in and they'd have these kids from the university
Speaker 6: that would do our you know, I guess they were
Speaker 6: seeing what kind of shape you're in. So they had this.
Speaker 6: You had the bench press one hundred ninety five pounds,
Speaker 6: and I would just look at the bar and I'd
Speaker 6: say to the kid, just mark me down for one.
Speaker 6: I didn't even try to lift it. I said, how
Speaker 6: many sit ups did I do last year? He said, seven,
Speaker 6: I said, Mark me, so say they would think I
Speaker 6: was getting better, But listen, I did eight push ups
Speaker 6: in training camp and scored ninety two goals. I did
Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty five sit ups my last year
Speaker 6: training camp, I got nine goals. There's no correlation.
Speaker 2: Right, When did you realize that Ovechkin could get your
Speaker 2: goalscoring record?
Speaker 10: Well?
Speaker 6: When he scored on his back against us? When I
Speaker 6: was coaching in Phoenix in about two thousand and seven,
Speaker 6: I came in the locker room and I think it
Speaker 6: was Rick Talckett said, the writing's on the wall. This
Speaker 6: guy's going to be chasing you down. No, we knew
Speaker 6: he was. Listen, he's a I said this. There's only
Speaker 6: three guys, him, Messe and Gordie Howe that could play
Speaker 6: with the finesse, the goal scoring touch and the physical
Speaker 6: part of the game. Those three guys did that. Now,
Speaker 6: maybe Mark had little bit more creativity with passing, but scoring.
Speaker 6: Mark scored big goals all the time. Gordy House scored
Speaker 6: big goals. But if they weren't scoring, they'd run through you.
Speaker 6: And that's what those three guys have in common.
Speaker 2: But explain to us that it's the hardest thing to do,
Speaker 2: aside from hitting a baseball. But you're on skates with
Speaker 2: a stick and guys are trying to beat the hell
Speaker 2: out of you when you have the puck on your stick, Like,
Speaker 2: what were you looking for?
Speaker 6: Well, people always say, how did you score that goal?
Speaker 6: Did you see that open spot? Did you scout the goalie?
Speaker 6: You know, maybe where his tendencies were and what was
Speaker 6: his weakness. The game is so fast to me, I
Speaker 6: was just shooting, trying to get an open spot, trying
Speaker 6: to hit the net. It was my biggest pet peeve
Speaker 6: in the world when you go all the way down
Speaker 6: the ice and the guy would shoot the puck and
Speaker 6: miss the net. And if you look at Mike Bossi
Speaker 6: and Brett Hull and Vets and you're a Curry Mario,
Speaker 6: they didn't miss the net. They hit the You can't
Speaker 6: score if you don't hit the net. Common sense, Right,
Speaker 6: game's too fast to now. In practice, you get out
Speaker 6: there and you put up targets and you work on
Speaker 6: things like that. But during the game, the game's too fast.
Speaker 6: You're just trying to get it to the net.
Speaker 2: Do you hold a grudge against anybody?
Speaker 6: Do I?
Speaker 2: Yeah? From your playing days, no, As.
Speaker 6: A matter of fact, the exact opposite. I have so
Speaker 6: much more respect for the players I played with and
Speaker 6: against today. Even back then, now, listen, there was a
Speaker 6: lot of guys that didn't like because they're trying to
Speaker 6: win and I was trying to win. But today, even
Speaker 6: even the guy that played me the hardest, the guy
Speaker 6: like Dennis Potvan, if he called me needed a favor,
Speaker 6: I would try to drop everything and try to help him.
Speaker 6: You know, we become one. There's one common thing that
Speaker 6: we all have as professional athletes. One day we're going
Speaker 6: to be alumni. We're all going to be retired, right,
Speaker 6: So I got a great respect. Now. There was a
Speaker 6: lot of guys that probably hated me when they played
Speaker 6: against me, and there's a lot of guys I didn't like.
Speaker 6: But when it's all said and done, it's like the
Speaker 6: other night when you saw Dallas, Jamie Benn and Scheifeley
Speaker 6: battled for six games like real men. They were physical, hard,
Speaker 6: played hard, and that's what makes our game so great.
Speaker 6: The emotions that they showed after the game and the
Speaker 6: sportsmanship and the respect they had for each other was
Speaker 6: truly remarkable. I happened to be at the game and
Speaker 6: I thought it was just amazing.
Speaker 2: Talking to Wayne Gretzky the Hall of Famer. Does your
Speaker 2: wife ever call you the great one?
Speaker 6: No? Every time that she probably says, do you think,
Speaker 6: why do you think you're the great one? I will
Speaker 6: tell you. I was having dinner with Charles Berkley one
Speaker 6: night in Phoenix and my son and I and we're
Speaker 6: sitting there, and his wife said, great one. When you
Speaker 6: passed me in the salt, and I went to grab
Speaker 6: the salt and his hand was already there, and he said,
Speaker 6: in this house they call me. My son was fifteen.
Speaker 6: Then he thought it was the greatest thing in the world.
Speaker 2: Where are all your trophies?
Speaker 6: I have one trophy here that Rocket Richard gave me,
Speaker 6: the only hockey trophy. I have one of the trophies
Speaker 6: I'm most proud of. I have here Sports Illustrated Sportsman
Speaker 6: in the year. That's the only two I have here.
Speaker 6: The rest are at the Hockey Hall of Fame or
Speaker 6: in the basement of my since past parents' house that
Speaker 6: my nephew lives in, and my trophies are still there.
Speaker 2: How important were trophies to you, aside from the Stanley Cup?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know Glenn Say there had a theory in
Speaker 6: training camp. I want to win the scoring race. I
Speaker 6: want to win the best defenseman. I want a goalie
Speaker 6: to be the best goalie. I want to have the MVP.
Speaker 6: But with all that, I want the Stanley Cup. So yeah,
Speaker 6: it was. He put it out there. He didn't hide
Speaker 6: from it at all.
Speaker 2: The difference between playoff hockey and regular season hockey, and
Speaker 2: it's not, you know, that much different than other sports.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe the NFL is still in each game
Speaker 2: because there's only seventeen games, but what is it about
Speaker 2: playoff hockey that we you know, it's just different. It's
Speaker 2: different than any other sport.
Speaker 6: It really is. Although I'm a basketball fan, I think
Speaker 6: the basketball has been phenomenal this year in the playoffs,
Speaker 6: and you can tell those guys have gone to another level.
Speaker 6: Our game has just always been that way, and I
Speaker 6: think one of the things that happens is it's so
Speaker 6: hard to referee our sports so fast, and our referees
Speaker 6: do a great job. And when we get in the
Speaker 6: playoffs and referees tell both teams, look, you can play
Speaker 6: hard and you play physical, just don't be stupid. We
Speaker 6: don't want to be the difference in the hockey game,
Speaker 6: and so the game becomes extremely physical and very fast,
Speaker 6: and it's hard to it's hard to win in the
Speaker 6: National Hockey League. And I thought Carolina played a really
Speaker 6: good hockey game last night. Unfortunately, they're playing maybe the
Speaker 6: best team in the last three years and they get
Speaker 6: beat And now you play all year to get home
Speaker 6: I sadvantage and you lose it in one night, and
Speaker 6: so I expect and anticipate Burns and company will come
Speaker 6: out flying tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're like Peyton Manning when you're
Speaker 2: watching Peyton gets upset, you know, when he's watching bad football,
Speaker 2: or somebody does. I don't know, how are you similar
Speaker 2: to Peyton Manning when you're watching hockey and you're like,
Speaker 2: why are they doing something? Or you get you know, visibly,
Speaker 2: you know, upset with what you're seeing.
Speaker 6: No, not at all. I don't critique it, if anything
Speaker 6: on the opposite, I just sit and enjoy it. I
Speaker 6: really appreciate good plays. I really appreciate good coaching. And
Speaker 6: you can see the four teams are in the finals.
Speaker 6: They all have good coaching and that's part of the
Speaker 6: reason they're there. And then they have the skill and
Speaker 6: the talent to go with that. So now I know
Speaker 6: how hard these kids work, and I never critique them.
Speaker 2: The honest place where you were recognized is where.
Speaker 6: Oh gosh, I don't know, maybe roam. You know, it's amazing.
Speaker 6: I retired twenty five years ago. I think I get
Speaker 6: recognized more now than I did in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 6: But people are nice. It doesn't even phaze me. You know,
Speaker 6: people are always nice. Everybody has their opinions. Who the
Speaker 6: best player was, who the best teams were? We all
Speaker 6: do That's what makes sports great and all. We don't
Speaker 6: have the right answer. It's your opinion, as simple as that.
Speaker 2: But Michael Jordan thinks he's the greatest basketball player of
Speaker 2: all time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was the greatest athlete I think of all time.
Speaker 2: Do you think you're the greatest hockey player of all time?
Speaker 6: No, No, not at all. I always said that Gordi
Speaker 6: Howe and Bobby Orr were the two greatest hockey players
Speaker 6: that ever lived. I made my life because of those
Speaker 6: two guys. They took the NHL to another level and
Speaker 6: gave me an opportunity. No, I would never say that,
Speaker 6: and I mean that sincerely. I tell my kids that
Speaker 6: i'd say publicly, I have too much respect for both
Speaker 6: those players that I would think that I was better
Speaker 6: than they were.
Speaker 2: But if I said, I can wipe away everything you
Speaker 2: did in hockey, but you would have been a Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame baseball player for the Tigers, and.
Speaker 6: I would have told you I was the greatest baseball
Speaker 6: player ever. I can bragg about my baseball.
Speaker 2: But you told me years ago that you that really was.
Speaker 2: That was a goal. Like you loved the Detroit Tigers.
Speaker 6: Oh, I really did. I grew up an Ernie Harwell fan.
Speaker 6: Mickey Lolis. One of the great days of my life.
Speaker 6: I watched Mickey lowlts pitch when I was thirteen, and
Speaker 6: I wrote it in my book. We're playing in Detroit
Speaker 6: one day and trainer came in and said, there's a
Speaker 6: guy out here that wants to sign his book. Can
Speaker 6: I bring him in? I said, sure, it was Mickey
Speaker 6: Lolis because I wrote the story in the book, and
Speaker 6: so I got a chance to meet him and get
Speaker 6: a picture taken with him. And then through those years,
Speaker 6: you know, Mark the burn Fidrich came and you know,
Speaker 6: and then when Sparky Anderson went to Detroit and they
Speaker 6: won the World Series, So I grew up a huge
Speaker 6: Tigers fan. Now I love the Blue Jays, but they
Speaker 6: weren't there till seventy six, so I'd been fifteen years
Speaker 6: in baseball by the time the Jays were sort of founded.
Speaker 2: Were you starstruck first time you met Jordan?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think everybody is. Like I said to me,
Speaker 6: the two greatest athletes ever were Michael Jordan Muhammad Ali,
Speaker 6: and I got the chance to be friends with both
Speaker 6: of them. I got a chance to spend a lot
Speaker 6: of time with Muhammad La. I went to New York
Speaker 6: in nineteen seventy eight when I signed the WHA and
Speaker 6: I was with Gordi Howe and Bobby Hall, and I
Speaker 6: was his kid. Just starstruck, right, And We're in the
Speaker 6: Plaza Hotels the first time I'd ever been to New
Speaker 6: York and there I was standing there. Muhammad La came
Speaker 6: over to shake Gordy house hand and I almost fell
Speaker 6: over like that. And then five minutes later, Pat Boone
Speaker 6: came over to say lo to Gordi Howe, and I said,
Speaker 6: is there anybody this guy doesn't know? So he fascinated
Speaker 6: me from the very first time I ever met him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they have to be starstruck when they meet
Speaker 2: you too.
Speaker 6: I don't think so, I hope not, because I'm like you,
Speaker 6: I'm a normal guy.
Speaker 2: Well you are. You're so approachable, you know, And I
Speaker 2: liken you to kind of Joe Montana. If people see you,
Speaker 2: they don't realize that guy did what he did in
Speaker 2: his sport. Like you see Montana, he looks like he's
Speaker 2: a kicker. You don't think that's one of the greatest
Speaker 2: quarterbacks of all time. Like you're disarming because you're very
Speaker 2: generous to people and very gracious.
Speaker 6: Yeah, people are nice and listening. I got everything in
Speaker 6: my life because of hockey and because of fans. But
Speaker 6: I remember our sons played together, and I used to
Speaker 6: love the fact that Joe was there because we go
Speaker 6: to the high school football games and nobody even cared
Speaker 6: that I was. Everybody was bothering and getting pictures with Joe.
Speaker 6: He made my life in high school that much easier.
Speaker 2: But that's I mean, it's been a pretty amazing career.
Speaker 2: But like any goals that, what's left here for you?
Speaker 6: Oh, I don't know. Right now. I'm proud to or
Speaker 6: five grandchildren and two more on the way. And you
Speaker 6: know families for me now, and you know, I did
Speaker 6: my hockey thing and I loved every minute of it.
Speaker 6: Now I'm a fan. I enjoy being on TNT. They're
Speaker 6: wonderful people and the people we work with. And Liam
Speaker 6: is unbelievable. He's our quarterback and you know he does
Speaker 6: all the legwork and all the heavy lifting. And I
Speaker 6: just got to sit there and talk hockey. How nice
Speaker 6: is that you get to sit there and I don't
Speaker 6: have to worry about getting hit or run or knocked
Speaker 6: over the head. I can just sit there and have fun.
Speaker 2: But you're healthy, very healthy, okay.
Speaker 6: Although like everyone else, you know, I had some pre
Speaker 6: cancerous things taking off my face in the last few weeks, but.
Speaker 2: But no concussion stuff.
Speaker 6: Like if you asked my wife, she would tell you,
Speaker 6: I forget things I just told you an hour ago.
Speaker 6: You lost that back in those they told you to
Speaker 6: go home, have a beer, go to bed, have an AskMen,
Speaker 6: we'll come and skate at you tomorrow. You'll sweat it out.
Speaker 2: Do you have any pictures of you fighting, like the
Speaker 2: frame photos of you. Yeah, it was going to happen
Speaker 2: very often. I'm curious if I was.
Speaker 6: Talking about my sports Illusterates Trophy. I got one fight
Speaker 6: really in my career. Neil Broughton wasn't even his fault.
Speaker 6: I jumped him. The guy flies from New York and
Speaker 6: he's out there giving this presentation about how my sportsmanship,
Speaker 6: how I don't fight. First shift in, I'm fighting Neil Broughton.
Speaker 6: I get to the bench and I'll never get MESSI
Speaker 6: said to me, what were you doing? And I said,
Speaker 6: I don't know. But Davison Micah says, the good news
Speaker 6: is that's not even a fight. That's called cat fighting,
Speaker 6: so that doesn't count.
Speaker 2: But did you throw a punch?
Speaker 6: I don't even remember. I think I kind of, I
Speaker 6: don't know. We got to the pebbly box and I
Speaker 6: remember I looked over and I said, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I apologize Neil.
Speaker 6: I think he's more shocked than the seventeen people at
Speaker 6: the game and the nineteen teammates I had on the
Speaker 6: bench going what was that all about? One night we
Speaker 6: were playing in Chicago, Bob Murray kind of he's always
Speaker 6: whacking me and hacking me, and I got so mad
Speaker 6: at grabbed him and he threw me on the ice
Speaker 6: and he had his hand like this, and I'm looking
Speaker 6: over at our bench and there's five guys with their
Speaker 6: legs over the boards and he's holding me. He goes, now,
Speaker 6: don't move. I'm not gonna hate you. And I got
Speaker 6: back to the bench and I told all the guys,
Speaker 6: I said, nobody's allowed to touch him the rest of
Speaker 6: the night.
Speaker 2: But did you give like Dave Simenko an extra gift?
Speaker 2: He was your protector. They had to have one on
Speaker 2: each team.
Speaker 6: I'm guessing in those days everybody had sort of that guy, right,
Speaker 6: you know the one I did give him. I gave
Speaker 6: him my car that I wanted the All Star Game
Speaker 6: in nineteen eighty nine and Edmonton, I guess yeah. I
Speaker 6: brought him downstairs after the game. I said, here's the keys,
Speaker 6: so you can have the car. So he was great.
Speaker 6: He was a great teammate to all of us, and
Speaker 6: he was beloved by the fans, the fans in Edmonton.
Speaker 6: He was as big as anybody on that team. They
Speaker 6: loved him to death. And you know, he was witty,
Speaker 6: He was fine, and he didn't really want to fight.
Speaker 6: He only did it if he had to, if he
Speaker 6: saw somebody abusing a teammate. He never went looking to
Speaker 6: hurt anybody and that's listen. That's the other thing about
Speaker 6: our league, especially in those days. Those tough guys didn't
Speaker 6: want to go hurt guys. They didn't want to go
Speaker 6: after those guys. They fought the big guys, right, They
Speaker 6: fought each other.
Speaker 2: It was kind of a code, all right, handicap. The
Speaker 2: teams that are left in the playoffs give us like
Speaker 2: a tutorial on what do you think is going to
Speaker 2: play out well.
Speaker 6: I like all four teams because I think all four
Speaker 6: teams are well coached, and I think all four teams
Speaker 6: right now are getting goaltending. I think Autinger and Bob
Speaker 6: Rovsky have proven to be two of the elite goalies.
Speaker 6: Skinner last year got to the finals and had a
Speaker 6: good run. He's got two shutouts in a row, so
Speaker 6: he seems to be on a roll. Anderson in Carolina,
Speaker 6: I wasn't. He didn't have a bad game last night,
Speaker 6: but he didn't have a great game last night. The
Speaker 6: thing between Carolina and physical I think Carolina is a
Speaker 6: little bit faster and they the go, go, go go.
Speaker 6: Florida is smart and disciplined. This general manager has made
Speaker 6: some great deals. He's got to chuck. He got Bennett
Speaker 6: traded for Seth Jones or Shawn On and on. So
Speaker 6: it's tough to knock out the Stanley Cup champions, right.
Speaker 6: So I like Florida, but Roddy Brunomore and I were
Speaker 6: roommates at the Olympics in nineteen ninety eight, so you
Speaker 6: know my hurts with him also, and he's done a
Speaker 6: phenomenal job. Now everybody knows Edmonton that you know, we're
Speaker 6: my life was made and I always vote for them.
Speaker 6: My brother's the assistant GM. They have the two of
Speaker 6: the best three players in the National Hockey League and
Speaker 6: dry Sidle and McDavid questions the best player in the game.
Speaker 6: They're going to have to contain him. Pete de Boor
Speaker 6: has done a great job. And Dallas they made incredible
Speaker 6: trade getting Ratting in. I think it changed their team.
Speaker 6: The team that Dallas is playing Edmonton's playing this year
Speaker 6: in the semi finals. Dallas is a better team than
Speaker 6: they were last year and that series went six games.
Speaker 6: So this series I predicted those seven games.
Speaker 2: My best your wife and the family. Great to see
Speaker 2: you again and ut.
Speaker 6: Seeing you, and it's always a pleasure. I hope everything's
Speaker 6: going well for you and your family too.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bud. Good to talk to you.
Speaker 6: You guys all take care.
Speaker 2: How about that a great one? Bye Fritzy, Yeah jealous Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wayne was it on the bus last night coming back
Speaker 2: from the Emmys, said that I think we got a
Speaker 2: ruling on the tush push and I'm gonna take a
Speaker 2: break my thanks to Wayne gretzkype. We'll take a break
Speaker 2: last call for phone calls, what we learned and maybe
Speaker 2: some finality on the tush push.
Speaker 1: After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2: We've been waiting for a ruling from the NFL owners
Speaker 2: meetings in Minnesota on the tush push where there be modifications?
Speaker 2: Would they get rid of it? And PAULI, do we
Speaker 2: have a final answer? Do we want to play the
Speaker 2: tush push game?
Speaker 5: Possibly for the last time, the tush push game?
Speaker 2: All right? Todd? Will the NFL allow the tush push
Speaker 2: next season?
Speaker 6: The touch push is done?
Speaker 2: Ain't Seaton? I think the tush push was pushed again
Speaker 2: to another vote at some other time that the table.
Speaker 4: I think the tush push has still been pushed.
Speaker 2: Okay, Marvin, I think they banned it. All right. I'm
Speaker 2: going to say they tweaked language, but they banned it.
Speaker 5: According to a number of reporters, the Packers proposal to
Speaker 5: ban the tush push did not receive the required support.
Speaker 5: Twenty four NFL owners would have had to vote against
Speaker 5: it to remove it from the game.
Speaker 2: Twenty two owners voted against it.
Speaker 5: Oh Man, there's no other recourse this offseason. It will
Speaker 5: stay in the game for the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 5: The Philadelphia Eagles moments ago tweeted out push on with
Speaker 5: the picture of Jalen Hurts against the Packers doing the
Speaker 5: tush push.
Speaker 2: Okay, little eleventh hour lobbying going on by the Eagles.
Speaker 2: All right, Uh Ray in Texas? Good morning, Ray? What's
Speaker 2: on your mind?
Speaker 6: ABP?
Speaker 2: I have a question for you? And then uh from.
Speaker 6: That movie Fight Club?
Speaker 2: My favorites.
Speaker 7: So, if you could fight a sports figure alive or dead,
Speaker 7: who would it be?
Speaker 5: For example, I fight Bob Costas.
Speaker 2: Uh I, I don't want to fight anybody. Do you
Speaker 2: guys have somebody you want to fight in the sports media?
Speaker 2: Is that what he was asking there? Night Club? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Seat and you got somebody you want to fight, not really. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't. I've tried to let go of a lot
Speaker 2: of that. Uh yeah.
Speaker 4: I feel like all that negative energy was really holding
Speaker 4: me down for a long time.
Speaker 2: Ye weighing me down. I don't I don't have any anger. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm all good.
Speaker 6: I was at the sports Semis last night.
Speaker 2: Beef who Yeah, I'm okay. I don't have enough energy
Speaker 2: to have a beef with anybody. David in Ohio, John Clckery.
Speaker 2: I'd beat the crap out of that guy. Oh, the
Speaker 2: referee who calls Seaton Hall feel tight accurate. I had
Speaker 2: to let go of that. I don't care how old
Speaker 2: he is, David, David, he's in it. I beat the
Speaker 2: crap out of that guy. Yeah, assisted living and you're
Speaker 2: walking in there? Yeah, they stand up? Punk? What's up?
Speaker 2: Where's your whistle now?
Speaker 11: Guys?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? How about this? Is that a foul?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 5: Break your broken hip?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Bet that was a fun David in Ohio.
Speaker 10: Hi, David, Hey Dan, Sorry, sorry you didn't win the
Speaker 10: Sports Emmy.
Speaker 6: At least he.
Speaker 10: Didn't run out of the back of the end zone
Speaker 10: like Dan Rolowski and I have something else to make
Speaker 10: you feel better. The Red Sox Fantausy went oh to
Speaker 10: six in the World Series after nineteen eighteen, after losing
Speaker 10: all six times before finally winning on the seventh try.
Speaker 10: So I think this is this is your purse of
Speaker 10: the Bambino story.
Speaker 2: Thank you all right. Brian in Chicago, Hi, Brian, Hey Dan?
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 12: First off, in the words of the great Bob Costas,
Speaker 12: Hello loser. You I know man, but listen, you guys
Speaker 12: are already back on the Ammy train. You just had
Speaker 12: the greatest hockey player of all time admit that he
Speaker 12: apologized in the in the penalty box. Come on, guys,
Speaker 12: are already back on the train.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to necessarily put us over
Speaker 2: the top. But thank you. Brian Amy in Arizona, Hi Amy.
Speaker 11: Hi Dan, one hundred and forty six feet. Yes, first time,
Speaker 11: long time. I even't got my footsy shirt on that
Speaker 11: says section rows feet. Love that my friend, my friend's
Speaker 11: daughter passed away a few weeks ago from the flu,
Speaker 11: and it's her high school graduation today. Her dad, Eric
Speaker 11: and her family are huge fans, and I thought you
Speaker 11: could offer a message of support and instruction on such
Speaker 11: an emotional day for them.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can do it just as Aim.
Speaker 2: But I've appreciate you calling in and Eric, I'm glad
Speaker 2: you listen. I hope you have positive thoughts today of
Speaker 2: everything that she accomplished in his short life. It's emotional anyway.
Speaker 2: Now you tack on that you're going to be there
Speaker 2: to get her diploma, So good luck with that. Celebrate
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with crime. We did last night at the
Speaker 2: sports semis and on the bus and today on the show. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: good luck with that, Eric and family. What we learned
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