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Speaker 2: Morale is high. It's fake, but it's high right now. Yeah, absolutely, seams.

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Speaker 2: Are you trying to get everybody up? Come on, everybody,

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Speaker 2: let's hear it. I can't hear you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, MP, he's here, big Frizzy, he's here.

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Speaker 4: That's all T shirts are ten dollars. None of them

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Speaker 4: are specifically winter lose. We celebrate T shirts, just T

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Speaker 4: shirts for ten dollars. Oh so whatever we have left,

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Speaker 4: we're trying to get rid of all of our inventory.

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Speaker 4: So at this point we've marked them down to ten

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Speaker 4: dollars because we lost.

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Speaker 2: So let's celebrate. But it's not a win or lose

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Speaker 2: we celebrate T shirt. It's not those are because oh okay,

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Speaker 2: yeah no, yeah, no no yet, okay, all right, Final hour.

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Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky will join us. He wins awards, he wins

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Speaker 2: a lot of them. I'm like to know how big

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Speaker 2: his trophy case is it's got to be a room

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Speaker 2: because he's been getting trophies since he was probably seven

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Speaker 2: or eight years old.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, I think I saw a feature on E

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Speaker 5: sixty or something that Wayne Gretzky's father has like this

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Speaker 5: house slash shrine to Wayne back in Canada.

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Speaker 2: He maintains, Yes, I think he's got a shrine to

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Speaker 2: his son.

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Speaker 5: I can't imagine any trophies that guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and these aren't participatory trophies like my kids got.

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Speaker 2: And then we finally just gave him the good will

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Speaker 2: is there, Like you'd have all these trophies, but none

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Speaker 2: of them for winning anything. Be like, oh, and because

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Speaker 2: you competed in karate, here's a four foot trophy.

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three DP show email ADDRESSDP at Danpatrick

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Speaker 2: dot com, Twitter handle hit DP show. Yes.

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Speaker 3: Todd one of the cast members of the very popular

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Speaker 3: successful in Emmy Win NFL Live on ESPN, which kept

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Speaker 3: us from receiving the award last night for Outstanding Studio Show.

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Speaker 1: Daily Mister One, Dan.

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Speaker 3: Or Latsky has just checked in to the top of

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Speaker 3: the final hour.

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Speaker 2: Here, Hey, Dan, no worry.

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Speaker 6: I'm.

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Speaker 7: Doing very well. How are you good, sir? Doing crampy yeah,

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Speaker 7: I feel very poorly right now.

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Speaker 6: Do you.

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Speaker 7: I do?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 2: Do you think we deserved it?

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Speaker 7: I think we deserved it as well. But you're a

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Speaker 7: good man, and people you work with are good people,

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Speaker 7: and I know there's only one winner, and it makes

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Speaker 7: me feel awkward now talking to someone who didn't win.

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Speaker 7: That was probably very deserting.

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Speaker 2: You know what it's like when you throw a pick

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Speaker 2: six or something, You know, when you you have a

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Speaker 2: moment and you got a back from it. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: can you help us understand, like, how do we come

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Speaker 2: back from such an embarrassing loss that we didn't win

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Speaker 2: the Sports Emmy last night?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I think that you guys, you know, there's a couple

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Speaker 7: of really good self helped books that might be out

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Speaker 7: there that you can entertain too. Listen. I mean, we

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Speaker 7: did win, and I woke up this morning and two

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Speaker 7: of my four kids absolutely stunk this morning. So I

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Speaker 7: had to deal with life moving forward as well, no

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Speaker 7: matter we win or lose. So I looked at my

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Speaker 7: wife after we dropped off our daughter's fool, I said, well,

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Speaker 7: whether we won last night or loss, two of our

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Speaker 7: four kids gave us absolute attitude this morning. So here

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Speaker 7: we are.

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Speaker 2: Well in all honesty, sincerity. Congratulations dan Orlowsky, ESPN analysts,

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Speaker 2: part of NFL Live, former NFL quarterback. Let's say five

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Speaker 2: years let's say ten years ago, I told you, you

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Speaker 2: know what, You're going to be part of a show

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Speaker 2: that wins sports Emmy. You would have said, what, You're

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Speaker 2: out of your mind.

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Speaker 7: There's no shot. I won't even be in TV. What

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Speaker 7: is these sports Emmy? I didn't know they gave those.

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Speaker 2: Out because I look at you and I keep thinking,

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Speaker 2: you're an offensive coordinator in disguise. You know you're you're

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Speaker 2: you're an analyst, But have you given up that dream

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Speaker 7: I don't think I've given it up. I think I

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Speaker 7: honest and transparent. This is I felt in the last

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Speaker 7: two years. It was probably the closest that calling had

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Speaker 7: come for me as far as the desire and the poll,

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Speaker 7: and probably after this past maybe four to six months,

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Speaker 7: that is subsided and it's probably the furthest I've been

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Speaker 7: away from that in a couple of years, just because

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Speaker 7: of the reality of where we are with our life

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Speaker 7: as a FA I've got you know, three seventh grade boys.

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Speaker 7: I've got a fourth grade girl. My wife loves living

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Speaker 7: where we live. We've made really good friends in town.

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Speaker 7: I don't have the desire to uproot that right now,

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Speaker 7: you know, with a with a want rather than a need,

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Speaker 7: you know. Unfortunate some people have to do that because

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Speaker 7: it's their only choice. I don't have to, and so,

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Speaker 7: and I really love what I'm doing right now, you know, Dan,

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Speaker 7: Like I think this process of going through being nominated

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Speaker 7: and then being a part of last night, you know,

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Speaker 7: it kind of I don't want to say re energize

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Speaker 7: this because energy is not what I need. It makes

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Speaker 7: me want to continue to climb things, you know. Like,

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna be honest with you. I was up for

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Speaker 7: analysts of last night as well. I was furious for

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Speaker 7: not winning. Furious. I was Everyone's like, it's an honor

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Speaker 7: to be nominated. I get that, you know, Like, but

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Speaker 7: I wanted to win that.

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Speaker 6: I really did.

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Speaker 7: And when Barkley won, I texted, I'm like, what the heck, dude?

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Speaker 7: And I was bombed.

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Speaker 6: I was bombed. My wife.

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Speaker 7: I was like, I want to go. I was being

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Speaker 7: a sore loser, a baby, and so like Uh, you know,

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Speaker 7: like I want to win that one day. I really

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 7: It's it's been really cool to be a part of

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Speaker 7: what I'm doing right.

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Speaker 2: Now talking to dan Orlovsky of the Mothership the uh

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Speaker 2: Push Push We're waiting supposed to be voted on any minute.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: What do you think? How does this play out?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it sounds like it's gonna get you know, it's

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Speaker 7: back to the newest proposal, which is what Green Bay

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Speaker 7: has put out there, I believe language wise that no

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Speaker 7: offensive player can push or pull another offensive player. We're

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Speaker 7: totally changing offensive football then, and this is about way

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Speaker 7: more than just quarterback sneak. My mind goes to all

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Speaker 7: of those plays that the ball carrier or whoever gets

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Speaker 7: then all of a sudden, the two are three offensive

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Speaker 7: ball across the goal line, because that play will now

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Speaker 7: to then a penalty. And just so everybody understands, defensive

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Speaker 7: your helmet on the football. So now, from an offensive perspective,

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Speaker 7: if this rule gets passed, I hand the ball off

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Speaker 7: from that point forward to push or pull. But the

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Speaker 7: we're changing football offensively in a way. And we're also

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Speaker 7: changing some if we're being tended defenseless player situations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think Philadelphia is going to be extremely

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Speaker 2: successful at a quarterback sneak because of Jalen hurt. There's

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Speaker 2: nobody like Jalen Hurts in the NFL. Nobody who has

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Speaker 2: get that low And it's about leverage and I but

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Speaker 2: they you know, the Eagles imported Jason Kelsey to be

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Speaker 2: a lobbyist here at the owner's meetings. What could he

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Speaker 7: I would imagine there's a little bit of the health

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Speaker 7: I think him sharing the unique ability to you know,

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Speaker 7: Hurts executes it, and how you know, it's not a

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Speaker 2: How excited are you about the NFL being in the

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Speaker 7: I think it's really cool. I really do. I think

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Speaker 7: it's very cool. My biggest takeaway is how smart the

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Speaker 7: this opens us up even more to men and women,

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Speaker 7: all ages, all over the world. And so and now

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Speaker 7: you're you're taking the game of football that many of

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Speaker 7: a ton about it and maybe can feel that, oh,

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Speaker 7: I could play football like Dan. I've always thought the

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Speaker 7: Eli Manning. It was about moms and dads letting their

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Speaker 7: a little bit of that. This is brilliant business, you know,

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Speaker 7: stuff from the NFL, and it's you know these I

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Speaker 7: said this, Yesterda NFL live. These players in the NFL,

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Speaker 7: you climbed the highest mountain that you think you can climb.

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Speaker 7: When it comes to your profession, you accomplish it, you

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Speaker 7: can't go any further. And so now this gives them

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Speaker 7: another mountain to climb, another challenge to go accomplish. How

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Speaker 7: rare it would be to be a person that is

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Speaker 7: an NFL professional player, an MVP, a World champion, and

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Speaker 7: then an Olympic champion. That's I think it's very cool.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but how many players will play for Team USA?

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Speaker 2: Who are NFL players? The team that will play represent US?

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Speaker 2: If we're trying to win a gold medal? How many

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it seems probably half a dozen, you know, maybe

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Speaker 7: maybe ten. You know, by my understanding, you got to

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Speaker 7: I believe. So that means that Brian Branch and Jamier Gibbs,

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Speaker 7: so that limits your pool just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, are you going to have thirty two players competing

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Speaker 7: I don't think so. I mean, how many quarterbacks are

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Speaker 7: I know they all voted in favor of it. We'll

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Can I submit this for next year's Sports Emmy

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you could submit it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you could submit it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I'm out a round of applause. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it should be a very interesting NFL Live episode later

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Speaker 2: today for you, Dan.

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Speaker 7: No, I'm bet you're not on today.

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Speaker 2: Good for you.

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Speaker 7: I'm not on today, I'm not. My sons have a

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and congrats again.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Sir, I appreciate you. You're a legend.

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Speaker 2: You know that, So thank you, thank you. That's uh.

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Speaker 2: Dana Loosky. Yeah, I've taken care of my part of this.

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Speaker 2: I'm the legend. It's the other part that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: Seriously.

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Speaker 2: Pacers at the next game one tonight you have the

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Speaker 2: see you again. How you feeling?

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Speaker 6: I feel older, but it's great to see you. You know,

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Speaker 2: Now, could you give me a shift on the ice?

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Speaker 6: No, I'll tell you what happened about the age of

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Speaker 6: what do you mean? I said, I was scared to death.

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Speaker 2: But that's what makes what yarm or ynger or Gordi,

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Speaker 6: It's amazing, GORDI how got twenty goals in the NHL

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Speaker 2: Amo Yager.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. He's got to be fifty eight. I

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Speaker 6: It's pretty remarkable that you can go on at that

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Speaker 2: Did you lift weights?

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Speaker 6: Brad Hall had the greatest line of all. Somebody said

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Speaker 6: I said, Mark me, so say they would think I

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Speaker 6: And that's what those three guys have in common.

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Speaker 2: But explain to us that it's the hardest thing to do,

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Speaker 6: Well, people always say, how did you score that goal?

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Speaker 6: game's too fast to now. In practice, you get out

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Speaker 2: Do you hold a grudge against anybody?

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Speaker 6: Do I?

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Speaker 6: A matter of fact, the exact opposite. I have so

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Speaker 6: You know, we become one. There's one common thing that

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Speaker 6: So I got a great respect. Now. There was a

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Speaker 6: The emotions that they showed after the game and the

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Speaker 2: Talking to Wayne Gretzky the Hall of Famer. Does your

438
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 2: wife ever call you the great one?

439
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Speaker 6: No? Every time that she probably says, do you think,

440
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 6: why do you think you're the great one? I will

441
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 6: tell you. I was having dinner with Charles Berkley one

442
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 6: night in Phoenix and my son and I and we're

443
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 6: sitting there, and his wife said, great one. When you

444
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 6: passed me in the salt, and I went to grab

445
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 6: the salt and his hand was already there, and he said,

446
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 6: in this house they call me. My son was fifteen.

447
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 6: Then he thought it was the greatest thing in the world.

448
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: Where are all your trophies?

449
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 6: I have one trophy here that Rocket Richard gave me,

450
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 6: the only hockey trophy. I have one of the trophies

451
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 6: I'm most proud of. I have here Sports Illustrated Sportsman

452
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 6: in the year. That's the only two I have here.

453
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 6: The rest are at the Hockey Hall of Fame or

454
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Speaker 6: in the basement of my since past parents' house that

455
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 6: my nephew lives in, and my trophies are still there.

456
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Speaker 2: How important were trophies to you, aside from the Stanley Cup?

457
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know Glenn Say there had a theory in

458
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 6: training camp. I want to win the scoring race. I

459
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 6: want to win the best defenseman. I want a goalie

460
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 6: to be the best goalie. I want to have the MVP.

461
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 6: But with all that, I want the Stanley Cup. So yeah,

462
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 6: it was. He put it out there. He didn't hide

463
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Speaker 6: from it at all.

464
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Speaker 2: The difference between playoff hockey and regular season hockey, and

465
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 2: it's not, you know, that much different than other sports.

466
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: You know, maybe the NFL is still in each game

467
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 2: because there's only seventeen games, but what is it about

468
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 2: playoff hockey that we you know, it's just different. It's

469
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: different than any other sport.

470
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Speaker 6: It really is. Although I'm a basketball fan, I think

471
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 6: the basketball has been phenomenal this year in the playoffs,

472
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 6: and you can tell those guys have gone to another level.

473
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 6: Our game has just always been that way, and I

474
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 6: think one of the things that happens is it's so

475
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 6: hard to referee our sports so fast, and our referees

476
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 6: do a great job. And when we get in the

477
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 6: playoffs and referees tell both teams, look, you can play

478
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 6: hard and you play physical, just don't be stupid. We

479
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 6: don't want to be the difference in the hockey game,

480
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 6: and so the game becomes extremely physical and very fast,

481
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 6: and it's hard to it's hard to win in the

482
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 6: National Hockey League. And I thought Carolina played a really

483
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 6: good hockey game last night. Unfortunately, they're playing maybe the

484
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 6: best team in the last three years and they get

485
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Speaker 6: beat And now you play all year to get home

486
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 6: I sadvantage and you lose it in one night, and

487
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 6: so I expect and anticipate Burns and company will come

488
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 6: out flying tomorrow night.

489
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're like Peyton Manning when you're

490
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: watching Peyton gets upset, you know, when he's watching bad football,

491
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 2: or somebody does. I don't know, how are you similar

492
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 2: to Peyton Manning when you're watching hockey and you're like,

493
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 2: why are they doing something? Or you get you know, visibly,

494
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: you know, upset with what you're seeing.

495
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 6: No, not at all. I don't critique it, if anything

496
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,959
Speaker 6: on the opposite, I just sit and enjoy it. I

497
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 6: really appreciate good plays. I really appreciate good coaching. And

498
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 6: you can see the four teams are in the finals.

499
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 6: They all have good coaching and that's part of the

500
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 6: reason they're there. And then they have the skill and

501
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 6: the talent to go with that. So now I know

502
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 6: how hard these kids work, and I never critique them.

503
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: The honest place where you were recognized is where.

504
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 6: Oh gosh, I don't know, maybe roam. You know, it's amazing.

505
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 6: I retired twenty five years ago. I think I get

506
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 6: recognized more now than I did in nineteen ninety nine.

507
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 6: But people are nice. It doesn't even phaze me. You know,

508
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 6: people are always nice. Everybody has their opinions. Who the

509
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 6: best player was, who the best teams were? We all

510
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 6: do That's what makes sports great and all. We don't

511
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 6: have the right answer. It's your opinion, as simple as that.

512
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: But Michael Jordan thinks he's the greatest basketball player of

513
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: all time.

514
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was the greatest athlete I think of all time.

515
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: Do you think you're the greatest hockey player of all time?

516
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Speaker 6: No, No, not at all. I always said that Gordi

517
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 6: Howe and Bobby Orr were the two greatest hockey players

518
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 6: that ever lived. I made my life because of those

519
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 6: two guys. They took the NHL to another level and

520
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 6: gave me an opportunity. No, I would never say that,

521
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 6: and I mean that sincerely. I tell my kids that

522
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 6: i'd say publicly, I have too much respect for both

523
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 6: those players that I would think that I was better

524
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Speaker 6: than they were.

525
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: But if I said, I can wipe away everything you

526
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 2: did in hockey, but you would have been a Hall

527
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: of Fame baseball player for the Tigers, and.

528
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 6: I would have told you I was the greatest baseball

529
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 6: player ever. I can bragg about my baseball.

530
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: But you told me years ago that you that really was.

531
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: That was a goal. Like you loved the Detroit Tigers.

532
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 6: Oh, I really did. I grew up an Ernie Harwell fan.

533
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 6: Mickey Lolis. One of the great days of my life.

534
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 6: I watched Mickey lowlts pitch when I was thirteen, and

535
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 6: I wrote it in my book. We're playing in Detroit

536
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 6: one day and trainer came in and said, there's a

537
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 6: guy out here that wants to sign his book. Can

538
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 6: I bring him in? I said, sure, it was Mickey

539
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 6: Lolis because I wrote the story in the book, and

540
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 6: so I got a chance to meet him and get

541
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 6: a picture taken with him. And then through those years,

542
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 6: you know, Mark the burn Fidrich came and you know,

543
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 6: and then when Sparky Anderson went to Detroit and they

544
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 6: won the World Series, So I grew up a huge

545
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 6: Tigers fan. Now I love the Blue Jays, but they

546
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 6: weren't there till seventy six, so I'd been fifteen years

547
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 6: in baseball by the time the Jays were sort of founded.

548
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: Were you starstruck first time you met Jordan?

549
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think everybody is. Like I said to me,

550
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 6: the two greatest athletes ever were Michael Jordan Muhammad Ali,

551
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 6: and I got the chance to be friends with both

552
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 6: of them. I got a chance to spend a lot

553
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 6: of time with Muhammad La. I went to New York

554
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 6: in nineteen seventy eight when I signed the WHA and

555
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 6: I was with Gordi Howe and Bobby Hall, and I

556
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 6: was his kid. Just starstruck, right, And We're in the

557
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 6: Plaza Hotels the first time I'd ever been to New

558
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 6: York and there I was standing there. Muhammad La came

559
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 6: over to shake Gordy house hand and I almost fell

560
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 6: over like that. And then five minutes later, Pat Boone

561
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 6: came over to say lo to Gordi Howe, and I said,

562
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 6: is there anybody this guy doesn't know? So he fascinated

563
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 6: me from the very first time I ever met him.

564
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they have to be starstruck when they meet

565
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: you too.

566
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 6: I don't think so, I hope not, because I'm like you,

567
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 6: I'm a normal guy.

568
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: Well you are. You're so approachable, you know, And I

569
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: liken you to kind of Joe Montana. If people see you,

570
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: they don't realize that guy did what he did in

571
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: his sport. Like you see Montana, he looks like he's

572
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: a kicker. You don't think that's one of the greatest

573
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: quarterbacks of all time. Like you're disarming because you're very

574
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: generous to people and very gracious.

575
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, people are nice and listening. I got everything in

576
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 6: my life because of hockey and because of fans. But

577
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 6: I remember our sons played together, and I used to

578
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 6: love the fact that Joe was there because we go

579
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 6: to the high school football games and nobody even cared

580
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 6: that I was. Everybody was bothering and getting pictures with Joe.

581
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 6: He made my life in high school that much easier.

582
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: But that's I mean, it's been a pretty amazing career.

583
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: But like any goals that, what's left here for you?

584
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 6: Oh, I don't know. Right now. I'm proud to or

585
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 6: five grandchildren and two more on the way. And you

586
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 6: know families for me now, and you know, I did

587
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 6: my hockey thing and I loved every minute of it.

588
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 6: Now I'm a fan. I enjoy being on TNT. They're

589
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 6: wonderful people and the people we work with. And Liam

590
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 6: is unbelievable. He's our quarterback and you know he does

591
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 6: all the legwork and all the heavy lifting. And I

592
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 6: just got to sit there and talk hockey. How nice

593
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 6: is that you get to sit there and I don't

594
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 6: have to worry about getting hit or run or knocked

595
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 6: over the head. I can just sit there and have fun.

596
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 2: But you're healthy, very healthy, okay.

597
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 6: Although like everyone else, you know, I had some pre

598
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 6: cancerous things taking off my face in the last few weeks, but.

599
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: But no concussion stuff.

600
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 6: Like if you asked my wife, she would tell you,

601
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 6: I forget things I just told you an hour ago.

602
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 6: You lost that back in those they told you to

603
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 6: go home, have a beer, go to bed, have an AskMen,

604
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 6: we'll come and skate at you tomorrow. You'll sweat it out.

605
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: Do you have any pictures of you fighting, like the

606
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: frame photos of you. Yeah, it was going to happen

607
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: very often. I'm curious if I was.

608
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 6: Talking about my sports Illusterates Trophy. I got one fight

609
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 6: really in my career. Neil Broughton wasn't even his fault.

610
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 6: I jumped him. The guy flies from New York and

611
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 6: he's out there giving this presentation about how my sportsmanship,

612
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 6: how I don't fight. First shift in, I'm fighting Neil Broughton.

613
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 6: I get to the bench and I'll never get MESSI

614
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 6: said to me, what were you doing? And I said,

615
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 6: I don't know. But Davison Micah says, the good news

616
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 6: is that's not even a fight. That's called cat fighting,

617
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 6: so that doesn't count.

618
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: But did you throw a punch?

619
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 6: I don't even remember. I think I kind of, I

620
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 6: don't know. We got to the pebbly box and I

621
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 6: remember I looked over and I said, I'm sorry.

622
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: I apologize Neil.

623
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 6: I think he's more shocked than the seventeen people at

624
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 6: the game and the nineteen teammates I had on the

625
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 6: bench going what was that all about? One night we

626
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 6: were playing in Chicago, Bob Murray kind of he's always

627
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 6: whacking me and hacking me, and I got so mad

628
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 6: at grabbed him and he threw me on the ice

629
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 6: and he had his hand like this, and I'm looking

630
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 6: over at our bench and there's five guys with their

631
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 6: legs over the boards and he's holding me. He goes, now,

632
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 6: don't move. I'm not gonna hate you. And I got

633
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 6: back to the bench and I told all the guys,

634
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 6: I said, nobody's allowed to touch him the rest of

635
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 6: the night.

636
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: But did you give like Dave Simenko an extra gift?

637
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: He was your protector. They had to have one on

638
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: each team.

639
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 6: I'm guessing in those days everybody had sort of that guy, right,

640
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 6: you know the one I did give him. I gave

641
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 6: him my car that I wanted the All Star Game

642
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 6: in nineteen eighty nine and Edmonton, I guess yeah. I

643
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 6: brought him downstairs after the game. I said, here's the keys,

644
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 6: so you can have the car. So he was great.

645
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 6: He was a great teammate to all of us, and

646
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 6: he was beloved by the fans, the fans in Edmonton.

647
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 6: He was as big as anybody on that team. They

648
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 6: loved him to death. And you know, he was witty,

649
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 6: He was fine, and he didn't really want to fight.

650
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 6: He only did it if he had to, if he

651
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 6: saw somebody abusing a teammate. He never went looking to

652
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 6: hurt anybody and that's listen. That's the other thing about

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Speaker 6: our league, especially in those days. Those tough guys didn't

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Speaker 6: want to go hurt guys. They didn't want to go

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Speaker 6: after those guys. They fought the big guys, right, They

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Speaker 6: fought each other.

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Speaker 2: It was kind of a code, all right, handicap. The

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Speaker 2: teams that are left in the playoffs give us like

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Speaker 2: a tutorial on what do you think is going to

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Speaker 2: play out well.

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Speaker 6: I like all four teams because I think all four

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Speaker 6: teams are well coached, and I think all four teams

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Speaker 6: right now are getting goaltending. I think Autinger and Bob

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Speaker 6: Rovsky have proven to be two of the elite goalies.

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Speaker 6: Skinner last year got to the finals and had a

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Speaker 6: good run. He's got two shutouts in a row, so

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Speaker 6: he seems to be on a roll. Anderson in Carolina,

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Speaker 6: I wasn't. He didn't have a bad game last night,

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Speaker 6: but he didn't have a great game last night. The

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Speaker 6: thing between Carolina and physical I think Carolina is a

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Speaker 6: little bit faster and they the go, go, go go.

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Speaker 6: Florida is smart and disciplined. This general manager has made

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Speaker 6: some great deals. He's got to chuck. He got Bennett

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Speaker 6: traded for Seth Jones or Shawn On and on. So

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Speaker 6: it's tough to knock out the Stanley Cup champions, right.

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Speaker 6: So I like Florida, but Roddy Brunomore and I were

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Speaker 6: roommates at the Olympics in nineteen ninety eight, so you

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Speaker 6: know my hurts with him also, and he's done a

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Speaker 6: phenomenal job. Now everybody knows Edmonton that you know, we're

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Speaker 6: my life was made and I always vote for them.

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Speaker 6: My brother's the assistant GM. They have the two of

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Speaker 6: the best three players in the National Hockey League and

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Speaker 6: dry Sidle and McDavid questions the best player in the game.

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Speaker 6: They're going to have to contain him. Pete de Boor

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Speaker 6: has done a great job. And Dallas they made incredible

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Speaker 6: trade getting Ratting in. I think it changed their team.

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Speaker 6: The team that Dallas is playing Edmonton's playing this year

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Speaker 6: in the semi finals. Dallas is a better team than

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Speaker 6: they were last year and that series went six games.

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Speaker 6: So this series I predicted those seven games.

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Speaker 2: My best your wife and the family. Great to see

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Speaker 2: you again and ut.

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Speaker 6: Seeing you, and it's always a pleasure. I hope everything's

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Speaker 6: going well for you and your family too.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Bud. Good to talk to you.

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Speaker 6: You guys all take care.

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Speaker 2: How about that a great one? Bye Fritzy, Yeah jealous Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Wayne was it on the bus last night coming back

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Speaker 2: from the Emmys, said that I think we got a

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Speaker 2: ruling on the tush push and I'm gonna take a

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Speaker 2: break my thanks to Wayne gretzkype. We'll take a break

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Speaker 2: last call for phone calls, what we learned and maybe

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Speaker 2: some finality on the tush push.

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Speaker 1: After this, be sure to catch the live edition of

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Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six

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Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.

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Speaker 2: We've been waiting for a ruling from the NFL owners

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Speaker 2: meetings in Minnesota on the tush push where there be modifications?

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Speaker 2: Would they get rid of it? And PAULI, do we

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Speaker 2: have a final answer? Do we want to play the

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Speaker 2: tush push game?

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Speaker 5: Possibly for the last time, the tush push game?

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Speaker 2: All right? Todd? Will the NFL allow the tush push

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Speaker 2: next season?

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Speaker 6: The touch push is done?

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Speaker 2: Ain't Seaton? I think the tush push was pushed again

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Speaker 2: to another vote at some other time that the table.

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Speaker 4: I think the tush push has still been pushed.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Marvin, I think they banned it. All right. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to say they tweaked language, but they banned it.

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Speaker 5: According to a number of reporters, the Packers proposal to

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Speaker 5: ban the tush push did not receive the required support.

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Speaker 5: Twenty four NFL owners would have had to vote against

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Speaker 5: it to remove it from the game.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two owners voted against it.

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Speaker 5: Oh Man, there's no other recourse this offseason. It will

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Speaker 5: stay in the game for the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 5: The Philadelphia Eagles moments ago tweeted out push on with

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Speaker 5: the picture of Jalen Hurts against the Packers doing the

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Speaker 5: tush push.

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Speaker 2: Okay, little eleventh hour lobbying going on by the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: All right, Uh Ray in Texas? Good morning, Ray? What's

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Speaker 2: on your mind?

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Speaker 6: ABP?

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Speaker 2: I have a question for you? And then uh from.

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Speaker 6: That movie Fight Club?

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Speaker 2: My favorites.

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Speaker 7: So, if you could fight a sports figure alive or dead,

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Speaker 7: who would it be?

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Speaker 5: For example, I fight Bob Costas.

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Speaker 2: Uh I, I don't want to fight anybody. Do you

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Speaker 2: guys have somebody you want to fight in the sports media?

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Speaker 2: Is that what he was asking there? Night Club? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Seat and you got somebody you want to fight, not really. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I can't. I've tried to let go of a lot

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Speaker 2: of that. Uh yeah.

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Speaker 4: I feel like all that negative energy was really holding

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Speaker 4: me down for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Ye weighing me down. I don't I don't have any anger. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm all good.

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Speaker 6: I was at the sports Semis last night.

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Speaker 2: Beef who Yeah, I'm okay. I don't have enough energy

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Speaker 2: to have a beef with anybody. David in Ohio, John Clckery.

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Speaker 2: I'd beat the crap out of that guy. Oh, the

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Speaker 2: referee who calls Seaton Hall feel tight accurate. I had

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Speaker 2: to let go of that. I don't care how old

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Speaker 2: he is, David, David, he's in it. I beat the

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Speaker 2: crap out of that guy. Yeah, assisted living and you're

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Speaker 2: walking in there? Yeah, they stand up? Punk? What's up?

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Speaker 2: Where's your whistle now?

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Speaker 11: Guys?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? How about this? Is that a foul?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 5: Break your broken hip?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Bet that was a fun David in Ohio.

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Speaker 10: Hi, David, Hey Dan, Sorry, sorry you didn't win the

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Speaker 10: Sports Emmy.

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Speaker 6: At least he.

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Speaker 10: Didn't run out of the back of the end zone

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Speaker 10: like Dan Rolowski and I have something else to make

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Speaker 10: you feel better. The Red Sox Fantausy went oh to

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Speaker 10: six in the World Series after nineteen eighteen, after losing

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Speaker 10: all six times before finally winning on the seventh try.

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Speaker 10: So I think this is this is your purse of

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Speaker 10: the Bambino story.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all right. Brian in Chicago, Hi, Brian, Hey Dan?

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 12: First off, in the words of the great Bob Costas,

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Speaker 12: Hello loser. You I know man, but listen, you guys

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Speaker 12: are already back on the Ammy train. You just had

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Speaker 12: the greatest hockey player of all time admit that he

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Speaker 12: apologized in the in the penalty box. Come on, guys,

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Speaker 12: are already back on the train.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to necessarily put us over

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Speaker 2: the top. But thank you. Brian Amy in Arizona, Hi Amy.

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Speaker 11: Hi Dan, one hundred and forty six feet. Yes, first time,

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Speaker 11: long time. I even't got my footsy shirt on that

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Speaker 11: says section rows feet. Love that my friend, my friend's

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Speaker 11: daughter passed away a few weeks ago from the flu,

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Speaker 11: and it's her high school graduation today. Her dad, Eric

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Speaker 11: and her family are huge fans, and I thought you

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Speaker 11: could offer a message of support and instruction on such

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Speaker 11: an emotional day for them.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I can do it just as Aim.

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Speaker 2: But I've appreciate you calling in and Eric, I'm glad

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Speaker 2: you listen. I hope you have positive thoughts today of

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Speaker 2: everything that she accomplished in his short life. It's emotional anyway.

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Speaker 2: Now you tack on that you're going to be there

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Speaker 2: to get her diploma, So good luck with that. Celebrate

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Speaker 2: nothing wrong with crime. We did last night at the

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Speaker 2: sports semis and on the bus and today on the show. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: good luck with that, Eric and family. What we learned

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