1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:00,720 Speaker 1: This is John. 2 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 2: This is your og Okay Storytime podcast hosts, and we 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: have some rocking stories for you coming up. But before 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: you rock out with your socks out, I got a 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: quick two minute ad break from a sponsors, keeping the 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: show rocking and rolling. 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 3: My friend demanded I ask for her permission before getting 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 3: a job. 9 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: Is she your boss? Because that's the only way that 10 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: makes sense. 11 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes directly from the Okay Storytime Separated. 12 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: I thirty four female have a best friend, Kit thirty 13 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 3: five female. She was the maid of honor at my 14 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 3: wedding last year, so she's in every photo. My best 15 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: friend of eight years and our husbands are that couple 16 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: that always hangs out together. She had been with her 17 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: husband for seven years and mine for four. We lived 18 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: three hundred meters away from each other by the beach 19 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: for one and a half years, so we would hang 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: out every single weekend. We would get wasted on Friday 21 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: night then be too hungover the rest of the weekend, 22 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: but we had some fun time. By the way, this 23 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: comes from one sixty eight thirty four And if you 24 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: want us to make your own stories, go to the 25 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: arsash Okay Storytime Supbreddit I'm Carly. 26 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm Dakota, and we're here. 27 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: To give good advice. Goofully, but we don't have all 28 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: the answers. We only know what we would do, So 29 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: let us know what you would do in the comments. 30 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 3: My husband and I bought a house about twenty five 31 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: minutes away in the suburbs. I am a full time 32 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: student on my last term of UNI. Finally, my husband's 33 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: family is pretty well off and he has a trust 34 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: fund that he used to buy the house, and his 35 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 3: family also helped, so there's no mortgage, which, being in 36 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: the second most unaffordable city in the world, you know, 37 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: that's a huge weight off our shoulders. My husband was 38 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: a surgeon back in Europe, but came here to do 39 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: a PhD and changed his direction in health. And six 40 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: months before the wedding, my dad cheated on my mom 41 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: and left her for the other woman. He left my 42 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: mother with my autistic sister, who was going through the 43 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: worst domestic abuse situation. She was forced to have two 44 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: children with this guy, and they are non verbal autistic, 45 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: so it is very hard for her. My father also 46 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: cut my mother off financially. I told my husband, I 47 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: want to postpone the wedding, but he wouldn't allow it 48 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: as we had his family coming from overseas. The entire year, 49 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: I was depressed, and my father ended up coming to 50 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 3: the wedding and leaving halfway through. My husband had a 51 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: great time with his family, but to me, it was 52 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: probably one of the most depressing days of my life. 53 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: My friend knew I didn't want to do it, so 54 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 3: more family drama followed, which just added to the anxiety. 55 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 3: After the wedding, she went quiet in the group chat 56 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: then called me to tell me that everyone in our 57 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: friend group is angry with me because of how I 58 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 3: have been the last few months. I contacted every person 59 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: individually and said, sorry, I've been so stressed out and 60 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: please forgive me. Every single person said it's totally fine 61 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: and why would they be mad at me. Weddings are 62 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: stressful and everyone had a great time, and essentially proved 63 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: she was lying. She told me I was myself and 64 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: I need to go seek help and get antidepressants, so 65 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: I did. After three months, I stopped taking them as 66 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: I felt like the shock of my wedding was over. 67 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: After many sessions in counseling, my husband apologized for making 68 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: me go through with the wedding and was just so excited. 69 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: Fast forward eight months. I'm still a poor student. I 70 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: dropped a few subjects at UNI and did some short 71 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: courses in my field of study work health safety. I 72 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 3: spent all of my savings on these courses and then 73 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 3: everything else. I spent on my husband's birthday party, all 74 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: in the same month, so I maxed down my credit 75 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: card and burned through my savings. Another friend, we will 76 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: call Kayla, thirty five female, managed a liquor store. We 77 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: met her eight months prior when we got our booze 78 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: in her store. 79 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: My husband and. 80 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: I invested ten percent into Kit and her husband's booze company. 81 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: I put fifteen percent of the ten percent, as that's 82 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: all I could afford. He put the remainder. When we 83 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: had our startup, I was running around doing everything Kit 84 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: asked of me so we could get it off the ground, 85 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: often driving four to five hours a day to pick 86 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: up and deliver thing, do booze tastings for them, all 87 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: unpaid because I'm an investor and they're my friends and 88 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: I want them to succeed. For two point five years, 89 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: they would always introduce me as this is my name. 90 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: Her husband is an investor, and I would always say, well, 91 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: we both are. I told Kit that it hurt my 92 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: feelings when her husband did this, and why was I 93 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 3: not in the booze group chat. She said, it's just 94 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: for the sinatories whatever. I gave that up. I changed 95 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: my mindset and thought maybe I'll help because it's my 96 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: best friend. So we met Kayla at the liquor store. 97 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: I do a tasting as Kit keeps leaving to do things. 98 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: For the last two years, I've been waiting for my 99 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: work experience subject at UNI because my friend and her 100 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: husband working construction. They promised they could get me some 101 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: work experience when the time came. She works in administration. 102 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: Her husband is a project manager. Since I've known Kit, 103 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 3: I've been the fun drinking friend on the weekend. I 104 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: made good money throughout my twenties, so it took a 105 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: lot of adjusting to become a broke student. Yes, I 106 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 3: had savings, but that ran out by the time we 107 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: had the wedding. When I first met her, she just 108 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: left her fiance as his mistress, just gave birth to 109 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: their child, and he left her with ninety thousand dollars 110 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 3: in debt. Are you I'm wildly lost in. 111 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Where are these people coming from? That's a crazy thing 112 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: to have had happened to you. That's kid's backstory. Husband 113 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,559 Speaker 1: left Kit Yeah with a child in ninety thousand dollars 114 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: of debt. Whoa wow. Maybe let's stop drinking on the 115 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: weekends and figure some stuff out. We gotta put a 116 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: plan together, We gotta do stuff. 117 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: I paid for everything when we went out because I 118 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 3: was in a position to do so. But one day 119 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: I grew up. I knuckled down with my studies. I 120 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: found a great man. Albeit the wedding situation was bad. 121 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 3: It's been six or seven years of studying thanks to 122 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 3: the world shutting down for two years. So now that 123 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: you've got the foundations, let's get to the story. It's 124 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: been six months since we met Kayla. Kit and Kayla 125 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: have been hanging out every Friday night. We have all 126 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: been to each other's birthdays. We all like each other. 127 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: After a massive day on a difficult course, I went 128 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: home and took a sleeping tablet at seven pm and 129 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 3: woke up at nine am. The next day, I was 130 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 3: in bed replying to messages. Then I started getting ready 131 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 3: for the day, taking my dog to the vet. Then 132 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 3: going to my other friend's house to help her start 133 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: packing to move the following weekend. Kayla had messaged the 134 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: night before with a discount code to some designer brand. 135 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 3: I replied with, I wish I could, but I'm so 136 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 3: broke after June my short courses husband's birthday around six 137 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: thousand dollars. She replies with, if you're desperate, I can 138 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: give you two shifts at my store. Great, I thought, 139 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: two days, and I will fill in when someone calls 140 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 3: in sick. That way, it's not too much of a 141 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: commitment as I have a busy month coming up. I 142 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: messaged get back in the group chat to apologize for 143 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: my late response as I had a sleeping tablet that 144 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 3: previous night. She replied with, or you were out drinking 145 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: with Kayla haha. I reply with that's so funny you 146 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: mentioned her, as she just offered me to do two 147 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: ships at her store this weekend and fill in person 148 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: in the future. At this point, it has been thirty 149 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 3: minutes since Kayla offered me a job and me telling 150 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: Kit I'm packing the car. As I'm replying to everyone, 151 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: I leave. Kayla messages to ask if I want to 152 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: work that night as well. As the two other I 153 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: say sure, I get to the shop that evening and 154 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: start working. Kayla tells me she's going out with Kit 155 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: that night. Kit comes in in a hurry as the 156 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: uber is outside, drops me my sunglasses from the hangout 157 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: the previous weekend. Doesn't say hi, just in a rush. 158 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: I send two photos in the group chat over the 159 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: weekend radio silence. Come Monday morning, I'm back on an 160 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: intense short course ten hours per day plus four to 161 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: five hours homework each night for two weeks. I message 162 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: to ask her and her husband if they still have 163 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: a connection for me for work experiencing in safety, otherwise 164 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: I can organize something else. She replies with You've been 165 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: changing your mind a lot lately with what you want 166 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: to do with work experience, so maybe you should have 167 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 3: a long, hard think about what it is you actually 168 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: want to do before chats can be had. I thought 169 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: this was quite rude. After the wedding, we agreed if 170 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: the other person does something, we would say it straight away, 171 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: so there's no build up. So I messaged her asking 172 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 3: why she said that when my degree I've been studying 173 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: for for six years is in safety and she agreed. 174 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: Two years ago to help me. I've asked them every 175 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: six months since then if they can still help, and 176 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: it's not a big deal. If they can't, I have 177 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 3: other options, and also that it was rude to put 178 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: it in a group chat. She said, I'll call you 179 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: later tonight, so she calls. I answer pleasantly as usual, 180 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: thinking she's gonna say sorry, I didn't mean it like that. 181 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: I've just had a rough week. Instead, she goes off 182 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: her head at me, saying I should have asked her 183 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: permission to work at the liquor store. I shouldn't be 184 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: telling people I am broke, as I am an investor 185 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 3: and it looks bad for the business. And she had 186 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: to hear it from someone else that I took the job. 187 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: In what universees any of this? Your tear? My guy? 188 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: So why why are you making this into a problem. 189 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: She's picking up extra shifts working behind a counter. Stop it. Yeah, 190 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: what are we doing? 191 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: She's working two days a week and filling in for people? 192 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: And why is this mean anyone's problem? 193 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, also saying that Kayla was confused why we lived 194 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 3: in such an expensive house, but I was saying I 195 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: was poor. She took my address from my employee application 196 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: and looked the house price up. How is that anything 197 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: to do with me? Plus, once again, I have a 198 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: prenup because his family bought the house. She also said 199 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: Kayla is not our friend. She is a work colleague, 200 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: and they only go out with her every Friday to 201 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: try to get her to get our booze into other stores. 202 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: I said, that's not nice to her, considering that we've 203 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: all been to each other's birthdays and I had considered 204 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: Kayla my friend. She said, I wouldn't understand because I 205 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: don't work in that business. I was so confused. But also, 206 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: why are you yelling? Why didn't you say something Friday 207 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 3: or Saturday or Sunday or Monday morning. I could have 208 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: avoided even starting work if it meant that much to her. Plus, 209 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: this is the first time I've been included as an investor. 210 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: Why now after the last year we've been saying I 211 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 3: just work for her. We end the phone call. I'm 212 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 3: so angry. I tell my husband and all he hears 213 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: is that I've been telling people I'm poor and he 214 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: is not a good provider, When all I said was 215 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: I can't afford designer clothes because I am a student 216 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: and just had an expensive month? Is this the wrong 217 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: thing to say? I didn't get much care from him 218 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 3: as he was hung up on that sentence. He called 219 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: her husband the next day to ask what was going on. 220 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: He said, Kit said, apparently she told her not to 221 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 3: work there, and she took the job anyway, which is 222 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: a lie. Then the manager from the other liquor store 223 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: passes away. That's her husband's friend, and how we got 224 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: into Kayla's liquor store. So I sent her a nice 225 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: message saying sorry for the loss of her friend. Then 226 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: come Friday, she loses her job. She messaged Sunday saying, 227 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: let's clear the air. I figure, let's not make my 228 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 3: birthday awkward, and we meet up a few days later, 229 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: the day before my birthday. I figure she's had a 230 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: rough week and it's not worth losing the friendship over 231 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: I'll apologize for all of these things. She'll apologize for overreacting. 232 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: I say sorry for XYZ. She also says she doesn't 233 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: actually care that I work there, just that Kayla told 234 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 3: her first. I said, but I told you half hour 235 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: after she said yes. But Kayla told me first, you 236 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 3: should have dropped everything you were doing and told me. 237 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: I asked, her for an apology for what she said, 238 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: and she replies with, well, first you want to be 239 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: a bus driver, then you want to do a truck license, 240 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: then you want to work at this place. So you 241 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: see where I'm coming from. I replied, not really. What 242 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: I do for a job and what I do for 243 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: study and a career are two different things. I could 244 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: be an uber driver or work at a coffee shop, 245 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 3: and that has nothing to do with my degree in 246 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: work safety. She replies, I guess this is a conversation 247 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: for another day. I also mentioned the booz group chat again. 248 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: She says it's just for those who signed the contract. 249 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: So I decided I'm not doing anything more for that business, 250 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 3: regardless of how this pans out. My husband takes me 251 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: out for my birthday over the weekend and surprise me 252 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 3: with her and her husband. It was the worst birthday ever. 253 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: He thought. 254 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: We had a little disagreement and now we're over it. 255 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: For the entire month, my husband, her husband, and Kit 256 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: had a group chat organizing meetups as I was too 257 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: busy with study. I told him, please don't do this, 258 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: it hurts my feelings. He said, I will get over 259 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 3: it and I just need another chat. With her to 260 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: clear the air. She messaged me one to two weeks 261 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: later to catch up as friends, not for any hard conversations, 262 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 3: and I told her it seems like she has forgotten 263 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,479 Speaker 3: where we left things. She is not willing to apologize. 264 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: Her husband, obviously, has been told a different story. We 265 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: had a few back and forth texts, but she doesn't 266 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: think she did anything wrong. I told my husband I'm 267 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: not going on his family vacation anymore as I don't 268 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: feel heard or supported. He said, I'm being dramatic, but 269 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: I stood my ground. He spoke to the counselor and 270 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: they told him what was happening and agreed. He had 271 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 3: been a wiener the last month by not realizing the 272 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: argument was bigger than it actually was. I quit the 273 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: liquor store job for kit Kayla wanted to keep me 274 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: on permanently. My husband doesn't speak to them anymore, but 275 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 3: keeps it cordial with them because of the business. I 276 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: blocked her. I can't let that friendship take any more 277 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: energy from me. I'm graduating in a few short months. 278 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 3: I have my dream job back in my husband's country, 279 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: as we were moving there soon for his work. I 280 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: don't know what to do from here? Did I make 281 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: the right choice? I feel better that I blocked her, 282 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: but also have other friends asking if I was going 283 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: to her birthday, which was kind of a straw that 284 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 3: broke the camel's back as she organized her birthday when 285 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: we were in a good place. Some say it's obvious 286 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: that she is jealous, as she was always the one 287 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: I turned to for advice and she was always ahead 288 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 3: of me in life. But now my life is about 289 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: to take off house, husband, care, your money. It seems 290 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: like she doesn't think I deserve it because she met 291 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 3: me when I was the funny, wasted friend, but I 292 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: turned my life around. I've always been the chill friend 293 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: who lets things slide, but this time I didn't. Maybe 294 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 3: that has shocked her, and that's the end of that story. 295 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: I exposed my friend's awful actions to a matchmaker, and 296 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: now he's blacklisted by everyone. Hi thirty nine female and 297 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: friends with this guy we'll call Jake, forty two male. 298 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: We worked at the same place for a long time. 299 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: I branched out and he still works there. No, we 300 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: were never romantic, but due to common interests we became friends. 301 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: I don't find him visually appealing and he doesn't find 302 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: me attractive either. It all works out, by the way. 303 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: This comes from user crab Apple Girl eighty six, and 304 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 305 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: the r slash Showcase storytime suburd it. 306 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 4: I'm Dakota, I'm Carly, I'm Sophia, and we're here to 307 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: give you good advice. 308 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: Goofully. But we don't have all the answers. We only 309 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: know what we would do, So if you would do 310 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: something different, let us know. 311 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 4: In the come. 312 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: Recently, Jake came into a financial windfall. Wasn't enough to 313 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: live off, but it was enough to let him buy 314 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: a place of his own since he lived with his 315 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: folks before. This a nice weekend fun car as he 316 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: calls it, and enough money saved to where if he 317 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: ever does get laid off from his job, he won't 318 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: be in financial dire straits until he finds a new one. 319 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,479 Speaker 1: One of the things he splurged on was the services 320 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: of a matchmaker, because despite his newfound financial situation, he 321 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: still could not find someone. In one weird twist, the 322 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: service he contracted is run by a woman that I 323 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: am personally friends with. When Jake asked me, why didn't 324 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: you hook me up before with them. All I could 325 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: say was sorry, honey, you couldn't afford them before. I 326 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: didn't say it to be mean, it was the truth. 327 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: One thing about Jake is that he will sometimes make 328 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: online videos opining about random subjects, which get hardly any views. 329 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: He thinks it's because in order to go viral spouting 330 00:15:58,520 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: off on a topic, you have to be in a 331 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: t attractive woman who is by or sappik, a man 332 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: with a British accent, or a raging right winger, or 333 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: you need to post something completely outlandish that will get 334 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: people talking. He recently posted something that could get people talking, 335 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: and it got almost no views, again, which is a 336 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: good thing and a'lexplain why. He spent several minutes talking 337 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: about how he creates AI video clips showing two women 338 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: making out, but wind that he cannot post them publicly 339 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: because there is a chance one of the women depicted 340 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: in the AI could sue him. He literally said, quote 341 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: these are sadly for my eyes only because the last 342 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: thing I need is to be dragged into court because 343 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: a woman got big mad that I created a few 344 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: five second clips of her frenching her best ye or 345 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: whomever which is a shame guy, as I know they 346 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: would get a ton of views. When I saw this, 347 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: I called him to ask if he was trolling. 348 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: He said no. 349 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: I asked if I could see them because I was 350 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: curious as to what AI could do. So I came 351 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: to his new house and he showed me some These 352 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: clips are very realistic and could easily fool people if 353 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: they didn't know it was AI. Now sparently came to 354 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: his senses and deleted the video talking about it, but 355 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: not before he shared a screenshot of a DM conversation 356 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: he had where someone begged him to take the video 357 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 1: down while it still had no real views, because if 358 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: a girl he liked saw it, she would get the 359 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: ick so bad. He actually told the person, what about 360 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: the men who are harmful and or controlling? Is that 361 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: not an ick? The person told him yes, but they 362 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: aren't stealing real women's social media picks to create AI 363 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: without their consent either. I had a feeling he was 364 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: going to delete the post showing the DM once he 365 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: deleted the video, so I saved it before he did. 366 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: I decided to send it to my friend who runs 367 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: the matchmaking service, and said, I know this dude is 368 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: my friend, but please be aware. He admitted to downloading 369 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: pictures from random women's social media accounts to create AI 370 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: kissing content without their consent. I'm talking about hungs in 371 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: the mouth type French kissing. G thanked me for letting 372 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: her know. One day later, I noticed Jake posted on 373 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: his socials was set to go see a matchmaker today, 374 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: but an hour before the meet, they canceled on me 375 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: and refunded my money. When I asked why, they said 376 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: it was an internal matter. Guess they don't like money. 377 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: He asked me if I had any inside info. I 378 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: told him sometimes my friend just declines to work with 379 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: people at the last minute. It happens. 380 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't think you should have done that. I 381 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 4: think you should tell him the truth. 382 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're protecting that man at that point, 383 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,239 Speaker 3: and you need to tell him how it is, and 384 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: that that girl that DMed him was right, and that 385 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: he's being a disgusting, icky human. 386 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: I didn't want to tell him why, as I know 387 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: he might accuse me of meddling or sabotaging over a 388 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: private interest. Who cares? Am I the a hole for 389 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: doing this? Some people are saying I did my matchmaker 390 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: friend of favor. Others are saying I should have just 391 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: let things play out. Some said I meddled. One said 392 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: I should have let the matchmaker know after she set 393 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: him up with someone, so she could let his date 394 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: know because once a date happens, she doesn't get refunds. 395 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: Apparently my matchmaker friend forwarded the screenshot. I sent her 396 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: to the other matchmakers in the area because this man 397 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: posted on his socials that he tried some other matchmakers, 398 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: but as soon as they see his name in picture, 399 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: they say no to working with him, but won't say why. 400 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: Oops. 401 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: Comment number one, we've got comments not the A whole 402 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: guarantee those few in the comments defending him would change 403 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: their tune if it was AI of them tonguing other 404 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: dudes comment too downvoted fifteen times. Shout of black early 405 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: a ho. He hasn't shown anyone besides you the videos. 406 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: He deleted the video talking about it. He realized he 407 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: made a mistake. You took something he showed you in 408 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: confidence and used it to ruin his dating chances. Yet 409 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: you still call yourself his friend. OPI says, according to him, 410 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm repeating what he told me. Such videos are legal 411 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: under current laws if they are intended for private viewing. 412 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: He also claims, after doing research, even if he was 413 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: to post them publicly, an AI video solely depicting French 414 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: kissing doesn't rise to the level of what is considered 415 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: illegal under that new take it Down Act anyway, as 416 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: the women are fully clothed and aren't engaging in any 417 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: spicely related intercourse activities. Of course, there is still a 418 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: possibility a woman can use tort laws to sue, but 419 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: again he claims he did research and the chance of 420 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: her winning is actually low. She would have to prove 421 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: it damaged to reputation, but still he doesn't want to 422 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: take the chance of it happening. While not exactly something 423 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: that could land him in the slammer, it could result 424 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: in being dragged into civil court. 425 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: And there's an update. 426 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: Well, apparently Jake saw the Reddit thread put two and 427 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: two together and confronted me about it. So I had 428 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: no choice but to confess it was me. I let 429 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: him know I did him a favor. And here's why. 430 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: Once my matchmaker friend sets a client up with someone 431 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: and they go out on a date, he considers she 432 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: considers her job done, and service is rendered and doesn't 433 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: give refunds. But it isn't really about the money. It 434 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: really isn't about the money, Spider Man. Let's say she 435 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: sets him up with someone and the woman in question 436 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: finds his creations, which are literally right there in his 437 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: downloads folder. How long will it be before said woman 438 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: complains that the matchmaker, possibly via all over the internet, 439 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: set her up with a person that in essence is 440 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: creating AI of real people using images taken from their 441 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: social media. There is also a chance that the woman 442 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: might not blame the matchmaker but publicly try to name 443 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: and shame him. I don't one hundred percent approve of 444 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: what he's doing, but I don't think it's worthy enough 445 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: of putting him on blast on an app like Tea 446 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: or whatever. Girl, you're putting him on blast on a 447 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: Reddit post right now? 448 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: What are you on about? 449 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: I will admit that on some of the Tea's clips, 450 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: the finished outfit actually looks nicer than the original once 451 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: excuse me, but again, he's doing all of this without 452 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: consent outfits. Why we're gonna give him credit for making 453 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: nice AI slop that I guarantee you is not nice. 454 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: Many of these where women in media testing promo shots 455 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: of what they wear on air. I don't think they 456 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: expect to have them used for a fantasy of pulling 457 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: their outfits down to show practically half their front air bags. 458 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 4: If I knew someone like a guy friend who did this, 459 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 4: I'd be like, that's disgusting. I never never want to 460 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 4: talk to you again. 461 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: They would be blocked. I'm telling other people like, I'm 462 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: uncomfortable to be around that person. 463 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mean to paint a picture here, but 464 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to pay to picture of what is in 465 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: my head of this of this person. 466 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 3: I don't like anybody except the. 467 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: Matchmakers, who rightfully were like, oh yeah, I'm not gonna 468 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: help this guy get a date. 469 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: Heck yeah, discuss system of matchmakers that have banded together 470 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 3: to make sure he stays without matchmakings. 471 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: So the guy posting online with his whole chest about 472 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: how he wishes he could post his non consensual AI 473 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: like spicy content without any repercussions or fear of being 474 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: prosecuted because he's using real people. Yeah, I don't think 475 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get him a date. No, sorry, you can 476 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: go date your AI girls. To answer some questions based 477 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: on the comments, I don't think this is worthy of 478 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: dropping the friendship over. No, he doesn't have any of 479 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: me that you know of. 480 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: It you know of he's just not showing you those ones. OPI, 481 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 3: you are starting to sound a little silly, goofy. 482 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks to the one comment mentioning it. I let 483 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: him know that if he ever posts the deep fakes publicly, 484 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: they could cause problems if the woman's family or friends 485 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: are closet guards and think they're real. He did acknowledge 486 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: that's another reason, but he also said, in reality, it's 487 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Who's gonna give a crap if they're 488 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: in a clip kissing another female. Honestly, I think all 489 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: the stems from him watching spicy content for so long 490 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: that he expects women to quote perform for him, and 491 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: if he knows they won't, he has turned to AI. 492 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,239 Speaker 1: I was telling him about an article I saw that 493 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: many fem are now going for other fems, and he said, yeah, 494 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: Instagram has a ton of those femfem couples. But I 495 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: can't stand how they just peck on the lips for 496 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: the camera. Where's the passion they have tongues use them? Oh? 497 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: Oh my god. He's like Yeah, all those fem forfem 498 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 4: couples aren't catering their kissing pictures. To me, a man 499 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 4: messed up. 500 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 3: I need you to never talk to this man again 501 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: or else. I'm fully at this point considering you to 502 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: be just as bad. 503 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: Comment once is gross that you'd stay friends with this 504 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: disgusting piece of trash. Comment too, you think he's still 505 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: worth being friends with. The bar really is in hell, 506 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: and that is the end that story clad. 507 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: Some people called op out for that one. 508 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 4: My mother in law blew up because we wouldn't spend 509 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 4: Thanksgiving with her. 510 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: Those are some explosive family dynamics. 511 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 4: Before my husband and I got engaged almost two years ago, 512 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 4: my mother in law made several hurtful comments in front 513 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 4: of me. She said things like I didn't need a 514 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: real time and ring because I probably would lose it, 515 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 4: and the first marriage is basically just a trial. Those 516 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: comments stuck with me. By the way, this comes from 517 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 4: abbreviations Fit eighteen sixty four and if you want to 518 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 4: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime, 519 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 4: separate it. I'm Sophia, I'm Matt, and we're here to 520 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 4: give good advice. Goofully, but we don't have all the 521 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 4: answers feely know what we'd do, so let us know 522 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: what you would do in the comments. Once wedding planning began, 523 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: my husband asked both his mom and dad if they 524 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 4: could help financially. My family was very generous and supportive, 525 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 4: but his mom said back in February twenty twenty four 526 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: that she wouldn't know what work bonus would be for 527 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 4: Mark twenty twenty five, so she couldn't commit to helping. 528 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 4: We understood, but it's still full like a note. Around 529 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 4: that same time, my family hosted an engagement dinner and 530 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: included everyone parents, grandparents, siblings. My husband's side showed up, 531 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 4: but didn't offer to help or contribute in any way. Then, 532 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 4: in October twenty twenty four, mother in law announced she 533 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 4: was planning a five to six k trip to Europe 534 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 4: for her fiftieth birthday right before our wedding. She brushed 535 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 4: it off with that's not that bad. Meanwhile, she continued 536 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 4: to spend money freely on concerts, hotels, exercise equipment, et cetera. 537 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 4: The money wasn't really the issue, it was the message 538 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 4: she was willing to invest thousands into herself, but not 539 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 4: even show interest in our wedding. She never asked how 540 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: planning was going or offered to help. Instead, she and 541 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 4: my husband's grandmother mainly complained about hair appointments, the hotel, 542 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 4: the venue change, pricing, et cetera. It was draining. The 543 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 4: lack of efforts showed in other ways too. She always 544 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 4: expects us to travel to her she's an hour and 545 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 4: a half away, never offers to come to us, and 546 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 4: conversations usually revolve around her life, not ours. When it 547 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 4: came to my bachelorette, I invited my friends, my family, 548 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 4: and my husband's sister. I didn't invite mother in law 549 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: because of how uncomfortable she makes me. After photos were 550 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 4: posted online, his grandmother commented, where is the mother at 551 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 4: the ground and blew up at my mom, cursing at 552 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 4: her and calling me a liar. Mother in law never 553 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 4: stepped in to stop the drama. When my husband confronted her, 554 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 4: she blamed me, said I was pulling him away from 555 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 4: his family, and guilt tripped him about all she's done 556 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 4: financially for him in the past car insurance, phone bill, college, etc. 557 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of these parents failed to 558 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: conceptualize that when people enter a relationship, they are naturally 559 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: going to be pulled away. Yeah, it's also their child's 560 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: decision to spend their time with the new relationship part. 561 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 4: Exactly and maybe make yourself, you know, likable so they 562 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 4: actually want to see. 563 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, like if they like spending time with you, then 564 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: they'll spend more time with you if you continually pushed 565 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 2: them away and I can sing like this show that 566 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: you're not the priority. Call it a trial wedding. Yeah, 567 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: there's no way that they're going to want to be 568 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: around you. 569 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 4: Mother in law did show up at my bridal shower, 570 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 4: but didn't bring a gift or offer to help with anything, 571 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 4: unlike other guests who pitched in and offered to help 572 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 4: my mom. Later that night, she sent two hundred and 573 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 4: fifty dollars on Zell, claiming she forgot the card in 574 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 4: her car. Five months later, the card still hasn't appeared. 575 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 4: At the versal, she spent most of the time on 576 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 4: her phone, showing off her new boyfriend. At dinner, she 577 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 4: was on her phone again. On her wedding day. She 578 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 4: made a snarky comment about me ruining my husband's dream 579 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 4: of going to notere Dame because he chose to attend 580 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 4: college near me. She gave me an oddly long hug 581 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 4: before our first look, sobbed heavily during the mother son dance, 582 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 4: not a happy cry, and neither she nor's grandparents even 583 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: signed our photomat guestbook. After the wedding, she expected us 584 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 4: to travel to her for my husband's birthday dinner, again 585 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 4: making it all about her. Convened later, when we got 586 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 4: our wedding photos, my family asked to see them right 587 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 4: away because they were genuinely excited. His side never asked, 588 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 4: but weeks later mother in law got upset that my 589 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 4: family saw them first. Instead of being happy for us 590 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 4: or even complimenting the photos, she made it about herself again. 591 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 4: In short, mother in law has repeatedly shown disinterest, disrespect, 592 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 4: and a lack of effort toward both me and our marriage. 593 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 4: The money is one thing, but her attitude and lack 594 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 4: of care hurt more. She has never apologized or acknowledged 595 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 4: any of it. Now she's assuming we'll spend the Friday 596 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 4: after Thanksgiving at her house, again an hour and a 597 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 4: half away. I don't want to go, and I don't 598 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 4: think my husband should feel guilty if we decide not to. 599 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 4: I've given her multiple chances to be respectful, involved and supportive. 600 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 4: She's shown repeatedly that she doesn't value the relationship with 601 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 4: me or her son. So am I the a hole 602 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 4: for not wanting to spend time with my mother in law? 603 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 4: And we've got some comments. 604 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: Find it difficult to think that anybody in general wants 605 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: to spend time with this woman, much. 606 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 4: Less the woman aspire. 607 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, what have you done that has made her 608 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: want to spend time with you? And also like there's 609 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: something that OPI potentially did to sour the relationship. 610 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 4: Possibly he's just obsessed with the son. 611 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: I don't I don't think that there is, but like 612 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: her mother could have been something that like unconsciously OPI 613 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: did that ye oh he's not good enough? Or maybe 614 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: maybe it was just that he's not going to Notre 615 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: Dame in the beginning kind of a thing. But no, 616 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: there's they're not not the Ahold and did nothing wrong. 617 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: If someone wants people to spend time around them, they 618 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: have to make themselves someone who people want to spend 619 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: time with. It's it's not a rocket science. 620 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 4: I feel like sometimes you meet people and they're like, oh, 621 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 4: like I always have friends who like leave and you 622 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 4: know no one wants to hang out, and it's so 623 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 4: hard trying to get well. 624 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: Common denominator probably, I suppose you. 625 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 4: Know common wine. Option number one the adult option, don't 626 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 4: go visit her. Tell your husband he can have a 627 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 4: relationship with her, but you're done. You're not gonna suck 628 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 4: it up and put up with her disrespecting you at 629 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: any point in the future, and that includes if you 630 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 4: two have children. If she wants to change her tune, 631 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 4: she can come to you and prove she'll be nice, 632 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 4: but you're not gonna exert any effort to go to her. 633 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 4: Option number two, the petty option. Tell your husband you'll 634 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 4: go one more time, but any perceived slight will be 635 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 4: met with you telling her exactly what you think of her, 636 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 4: minus any type of filter you would normally have, which 637 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 4: should take care of you being asked to go in 638 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 4: the future. It's probably better to choose a path where 639 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 4: you're acting like an adult. But it sure feels good 640 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 4: be an extra petty when people deserve it. Oh, he says, 641 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,719 Speaker 4: it's funny because she has yet to say anything in 642 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 4: person anytime we saw her. It's all about her, so 643 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 4: there's no room for comments because she talks about herself 644 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 4: the entire time. I don't want to go at all. 645 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 4: And there is an update. This past Thursday, my mother 646 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 4: in law texted my husband with the plan for Thanksgiving, 647 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 4: as if we had all already agreed to go. We hadn't. 648 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 4: My husband told her we didn't want to make the drive. 649 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 4: There are other unresolved issues, but we didn't want to 650 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 4: get into them again. She pushed back, saying there would 651 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: be no traffic that day after Thanksgiving and that his 652 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 4: grandparents were driving five and a half hours to see everyone. 653 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 4: We stood firm and said we still wouldn't be coming 654 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 4: because there are several unresolved issues. She immediately replied white issues. 655 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 4: Though my husband listed a few examples, her response was basically, 656 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 4: how was I supposed to know if no one tells me, 657 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 4: which is frustrating because he did try talking to her 658 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 4: months ago and she shut him down, deflected the blame, 659 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 4: and played victim. I also texted her directly explaining my 660 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 4: perspective and the issues I've had. Instead of listening, she 661 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 4: doubled down. She said I make everything about me and 662 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 4: my family, that I only have issues with our side, 663 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 4: and that she feels like she's being punished for not 664 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 4: contributing financially to our wedding. She completely dismissed every valid 665 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 4: point we made. She also threw in some personal digs, 666 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 4: saying she never traded me poorly or excluded me while 667 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 4: we were dating, claiming my husband only proposed because I 668 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 4: gave him an ultimatum, which isn't true at all. My 669 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 4: husband and I joke a lot. I may have made 670 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 4: a joking comment about this, never to her, though, because 671 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 4: I was with my husband for seven and a half 672 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 4: to eight years and wanted to know his long term 673 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 4: intentions at that point. She also said she kept quiet 674 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 4: about a lot because it's his life. Then she told 675 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 4: my husband she sees him doing everything and anything for me, 676 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 4: and that she doesn't see the same from me toward him. 677 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 4: All of this because we said we weren't coming for Thanksgiving. 678 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 4: We pointed out examples of her past behavior, like not 679 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 4: signing our guest book when literally everyone else did and 680 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 4: being glued to her phone the entire rehearsal dinner. She 681 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 4: made excuses for everything it was busy, I've got et cetera, 682 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 4: and took no accountability for anything after that. My husband's 683 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 4: sister texted him saying, great job making mom cry, and 684 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 4: guilt tripped him about how could he treat their mom 685 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 4: this way after everything she's done for him for twenty 686 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 4: three years, student loans, car in college, et cetera. Basically 687 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 4: the same old narrative, guilt and blame instead of reflection. 688 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 4: In response, my husband sent this, told you back then 689 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 4: it wasn't even about the money. At the versal dinner, 690 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 4: you were on your phone the entire time. How do 691 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: you think that made me feel seeing my mom do 692 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 4: that before my wedding. Not sure who told you about 693 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 4: the ultimatum thing, but that was never serious. She would 694 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 4: never do that and I would never make a decision 695 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 4: based on that. And yes, of course I'm going to 696 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 4: do anything and everything for my wife. She's my wife 697 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 4: after all. I don't appreciate you disrespecting her. So until 698 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 4: that stops, apologies are made and actions have changed, I 699 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 4: have nothing more to say after that. As Mom tried 700 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 4: to call him, but he didn't answer. That same day, 701 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 4: as Grandma texted saying, your grandpa and I are driving 702 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 4: five and a half hours, but your mom said you 703 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 4: didn't even want to drive. We were hoping to see everyone. 704 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 4: He didn't respond. The following day, she texted again, that's 705 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 4: how I guess we won't be seeing you for the holidays. 706 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 4: He still didn't reply. At this point, my husband or 707 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 4: I doesn't want to talk to any of them because 708 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 4: every attempt he's made to communicate has been twisted or 709 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 4: met with guilt and deflection. My birthday is this week, 710 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 4: and I honestly don't think I'll respond to any of 711 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 4: them if they even say anything to me. I'm completely 712 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 4: fed up with them crossing boundaries. 713 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: Am I the ale? 714 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 4: Or are we the ale? Your mother in law sucks? 715 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 4: But that's the end of that story. 716 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: John. 717 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 2: Here, we're gonna get back to this juicy story, but 718 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 2: a quick three minute of break of ads from our sponsors. 719 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 2: My brother in law still acts like a child. How 720 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 2: do we help him change? 721 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 4: Tell him to grow up? 722 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 2: Is this normal behavior? Is he a self absorbed personality? 723 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: To put some context, my husband and brother in law 724 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: are two sons. My husband is the eldest thirty eight, 725 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: and brother in law is the younger one, thirty six. 726 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: Both my father in law and mother in law keep 727 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 2: telling us to talk to brother in law to sort 728 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: out his issues. By the way. This comes from Original 729 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: Natural eight eight sixty five, and if you want to 730 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: submit your own stories just like this, go to the 731 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 2: r slash story time subreddit. 732 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 4: I am Matt, I'm Sophia, I'm vincent. 733 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: But we're here to give good advice. Goofully. We don't 734 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: have all the answers, who does. We only know what 735 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: we would do in these situations. So let us know 736 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: what you would do in this situation. His issues. He 737 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: got married quite early, even before me and my husband, 738 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: and then got divorced in twenty twenty. There was a 739 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: big communication gap between the couple. The lady cheated on him, 740 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: as per her, he was a big baby instead of 741 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,479 Speaker 2: a man. He used to come to mother in law's 742 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 2: house to do his laundry even after marriage, made zero 743 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: contributions in housework, and always complained about money. They fought 744 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 2: a lot over his money and her money. They apparently 745 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: dated each other for eight years before getting married. She 746 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: mentally and physically checked out of the relationship, while he 747 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: completely blamed her and remained the victim in the whole situation. 748 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 2: No one knows what they talked about in their relationship. 749 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: She was a non vegetarian and he never told his parents, 750 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 2: which led to her hiding eggs when they visited. She 751 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: never wanted kids, but he says he always did. She 752 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 2: drank and smoked on very occasional basis, and he had 753 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: issues with that. He said he assumed she would quit 754 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 2: every after getting married. The girl worshiped him before marriage. 755 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 2: She filled out his college forms, his lone form, his insurance. 756 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 2: She was like his second mother for the last eight 757 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 2: years before marriage. Even before marriage and after divorce, he 758 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 2: kept saying he wanted to be independent and move out 759 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 2: of the house, but then came running back in a 760 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: few weeks or months. He has shifted to at least 761 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 2: six to seven houses in the last ten years, and 762 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 2: left each place after a few weeks or months. Once 763 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 2: he even made the in laws shift with him saying 764 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 2: let's move to a better house considering my mother in 765 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 2: law's health condition and the lack of a lift in 766 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 2: the current house. From there, also, he came running back 767 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 2: in two months, claiming he got dreams about the in 768 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 2: laws house and its walls during the night. He laughingly 769 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 2: said to us he likes chickening out of such situations 770 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: and going back to his secure place, secure because he 771 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 2: doesn't need to pay rent and only does some random 772 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 2: house expenses from time to time to justify doing something 773 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: for the family. He always talks about money, and if, 774 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: by mistake, he spends on anyone else, he will keep 775 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 2: reminding that person about it every time. He keeps saying 776 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 2: I did this for you, and I did this for you, 777 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: and that for you. 778 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,959 Speaker 4: Oh so every time he pays expenses, Yeah, I feel 779 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 4: like he's the type of person to go to a 780 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 4: restaurant and be like, Oh no, no, it's all me, 781 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 4: It's on me. And then the one time I paid 782 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 4: for your I paid for your food. Remember when we 783 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 4: went in and out and I bought your burger and 784 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 4: they're like, it was four dollars, dude. 785 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: Every suspense is a weapon. You can't have a single 786 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 2: conversation with him without him mentioning his money or portfolio. 787 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 2: He's doing well professionally, so he leaves no stone unturned 788 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: to brag endlessly. Oh god, he's talking about his portfolio. 789 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 2: He's like a Wall Street boy. He's a Wall Street bro. 790 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 2: He never asks about you or how you are. He 791 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 2: just keeps talking about his health, his work, and his life. 792 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 2: He likes being secretive to such an extent that he 793 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: lives in his own delusional world. He says harsh things 794 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 2: to others, then deny saying them the next second. Even 795 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 2: if you show him proof, he'll deny it. Since his divorce, 796 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 2: he has been staying with the in laws. He keeps 797 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 2: bad mouthing me and my husband to them, saying, look 798 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 2: who's staying with you and taking care of you? Mind you, 799 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 2: it's him who needs their presence, not the other way around. 800 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 2: He cannot sleep alone at night and can't even watch 801 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 2: horror movies. Once he watched a horror movie with friends 802 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 2: then came running back to the in laws home instead 803 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 2: of going to his flat with his roommates. His living 804 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 2: with the in laws has had a very negative impact 805 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,919 Speaker 2: on them. They keep fighting because of him and now 806 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 2: barely speak to each other. He has spared so much 807 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: negativity between them that even if they live alone, they 808 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 2: don't talk at all. Mother in law also kind of 809 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: depends on him for emotional support and often gangs up 810 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 2: with him against father in law. Mother in law keeps 811 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,959 Speaker 2: saying he's small, we need to take care of him. 812 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 2: He's been hurt, he's scared, mind you, he's a thirty 813 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 2: six year old man. 814 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 4: See, this is what's happening. We have parents that baby 815 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 4: their thirty six year old child, their little man child. 816 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 4: And now this is why he acts like that because 817 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 4: he's never been told to just tough it up. 818 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 1: Man. 819 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 2: I will admit it's very nice not having to pay rent. Yeah, However, 820 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 2: there cuts to a point where you are letting it 821 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 2: destroy your life and the life of people around you. 822 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 4: The problem is that kid, it's. 823 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 2: Like you can't afford it. He can afford it very easily. 824 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: Exactly. 825 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 4: There's tons of people who live with their parents totally 826 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 4: reasonable for many different reasons. In this case, all areas 827 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 4: of his life are just him being babied, him being 828 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 4: catered to by his parents, and that's it's just ridiculous. 829 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 2: When he did his MBA, instead of going to the 830 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 2: main college, he chose a secondary site a few hours 831 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 2: away from home so he could come home every weekend. 832 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 2: Many of these habits developed because of mother in law's nature, 833 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 2: because of him. We've had many family interventions, but none 834 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 2: have worked. Communication is a big issue in this family. 835 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 2: Everyone avoids confrontation and wants to keep everything under wraps 836 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 2: instead of talking about it in front of him. He's 837 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 2: been in therapy since twenty eighteen. Is he a self 838 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 2: absorbed personality. It hasn't helped the family at all. As 839 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 2: an outsider, I was shocked by his behavior. He'll ask 840 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 2: for a parapha in the middle of the night at 841 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 2: one am, and mother in law will make it. I've 842 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 2: told her several times he's not little or hurt. He's 843 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 2: entitled and spoiled. We fought many times because I can't 844 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 2: accept his behavior of hurting everyone while expecting us to 845 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 2: walk on eggshells around him. Every human being goes through 846 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 2: tragedies in life, but that doesn't mean you can play 847 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 2: the victim in every situation. He creates situations himself and 848 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 2: then asks why I even react, saying I'm not part 849 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 2: of the family. He can't digest that. When he does 850 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 2: something wrong, I question him instead of brushing it under 851 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 2: the rug like everyone else. My husband and I have 852 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 2: completely cut him off for a year now. I've personally 853 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 2: blocked him because I can't sacrifice my mental health anymore. 854 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 2: And there is an update this year. In June, he 855 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 2: fought with father in law and left the house over 856 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 2: money as usual. Then in July he found some girl 857 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 2: met her parents in another city and even went abroad 858 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 2: to meet her brother and his family. He came back 859 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 2: to India, informed his parents at the last minute, and 860 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 2: made them meet her for dinner the same day. He 861 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: never asked us to meet her or even talked to 862 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 2: her on a phone call, which is fine. We directly 863 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 2: met her at the roca. The girl is sweet and 864 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: hopefully she's strong enough to handle him and his habits. 865 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 2: He's told my in laws not to mention his past 866 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,720 Speaker 2: to the girl or her family. He says he's already 867 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 2: told them, so we shouldn't say anything fair enough, but 868 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 2: I don't trust his communication skills. He's ashamed of bringing 869 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 2: the girl to the in law's house. It's the same 870 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 2: house he used to call his secure place, because he 871 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 2: feels inferior to the girl's family and thinks they might 872 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 2: reject him after seeing the house. He's ashamed of his parents. Yes, 873 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 2: the same parents who have supported him blindly through every mistake. 874 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 2: Apparently they're not educated enough compared to the girl's parents. 875 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 2: According to him, he's created an image for himself that 876 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 2: we shouldn't spoil. We met the girl's. 877 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,959 Speaker 4: Family, I'm lying to them. 878 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 2: Don't tell sh I'm living a deception. 879 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 4: They don't know who I am. Don't tell them. 880 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 2: I told them I'm Obama. 881 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 4: Don't tell them otherwise. They don't know. 882 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 2: We met the girl's family during the Rocca. They're down 883 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 2: to earth and humble. It seems everything is just in 884 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 2: his head. And even if they are money minded, what's 885 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 2: the guarantee she'll stay with him if hard times come. 886 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 2: We can't have a two week conversation with him. He 887 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 2: just announces things and my in laws follow. He doesn't 888 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 2: want a family, he wants puppets, saying yes to him 889 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 2: all the time. I've told my in laws that if 890 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,760 Speaker 2: they keep pushing us to talk to him, they'll lose us. 891 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 2: Let him live his life and make his mistakes. He 892 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 2: needs to face consequences to grow up. We're standing firm 893 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: on keeping our distance. God bless my husband. He finally 894 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 2: told his parents. Just because I don't cry and complain 895 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 2: like he does doesn't mean we don't have our struggles. 896 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 2: We act like grown ups and have proper conversations with you. 897 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 2: If you keep taking his side because he's a thirty 898 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 2: six year old cry baby, then we've had enough. We're done. 899 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 2: There's another relevant update, but any update for his feet. 900 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 2: Is there any hope for this guy? 901 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 3: No. 902 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 2: I've pointed out a few of brother in law's issues here, 903 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 2: but this is just the tip of the iceberg. The 904 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 2: guy is delusional, and what scares me most is his 905 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 2: new fiance. What's the guarantee he won't chicken out the 906 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: next day and say he wants to leave her. I'm 907 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 2: just praying his communication is good with the girl and 908 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 2: he won won't make more blunders. Yeah, because it like 909 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 2: other cultures, like you don't get divorced a foot. 910 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 4: Stuck in that man if he sucks. 911 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, if there's a divorce, then it's Yes, it's a 912 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 2: problem for the guy, but it's more a problem on 913 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 2: the woman. Yeah, she's looked as damaged goods at that point, 914 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 2: and it's how a lot of time? How is she 915 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 2: gonna pick up her life now? No, Cuzy like that 916 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 2: stigma follows. We're sticking to our words and not getting 917 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 2: involved in his matters at all, even for the wedding. 918 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 2: We're only following what mother in law and father in 919 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 2: law ask for customs nothing more. Is there any solution 920 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 2: to this because I'm not sure anymore. If he's truly 921 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 2: a self absorbed person, there's no solution except keeping distance. Right, 922 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 2: that's the end, and we'll never know. 923 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 4: Well, as long as you stay away from this guy 924 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 4: and don't have to interact with him, that's, you know, 925 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 4: all you can do. But we got another story coming 926 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 4: right up. My mother in law moved in with us 927 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 4: and her habits are ruining our marriage. 928 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 2: Some houses have a monster, You guys have a monster. 929 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 4: About a year ago, I thirty two female, and my 930 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 4: husband thirty eight male, had my mother in law, sixty 931 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 4: three female, move in with us due to some personal 932 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 4: issues she was having with her then boyfriend. Since then, 933 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 4: it's been a night mare, but not for the reasons 934 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 4: one might think. By the way. This comes from conscious 935 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 4: Bread four five eight zero, And if you want to 936 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 4: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay, storytime, 937 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 4: separate it. I'm Sophia, I'm Matt. We're here to give 938 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,760 Speaker 4: good advice, goofully, but we don't have all the answers. 939 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 4: We only know what we do, So let us know 940 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 4: what you would do in the comments. I want to 941 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 4: preface by saying that I love my mother in law. 942 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 4: She's a wonderful, generous, kind, funny, loving person. She's a 943 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 4: great grandmother too, our daughters spoiling her with gifts and 944 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 4: love as any good grandparents should. She helps us out financially. 945 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 4: We don't struggle. She just pays her share of things 946 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 4: like rent, utilities, and a small portion of the exorbitant 947 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 4: monthly grocery bill. She's all around a lovely person to 948 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 4: be around. The issue is regarding her cleansliness or a 949 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 4: complete lack thereof. To give some background here, I am 950 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 4: undiagnosed OCD, and I recognized right off the bat what 951 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 4: that sounds like. But I fit into almost every category 952 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 4: symptomatically and struggle with some borderline obsessive habits, especially as 953 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 4: it pertains to cleaning. I've always kept a night tidy house, 954 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 4: even with a toddler, a dog, a cat, two birds, 955 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 4: and a husband who did a lot of unlearning and 956 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 4: adult years regarding his own standards of cleanliness due to 957 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 4: his childhood. He's expressed a lot of gratitude to me 958 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 4: and his military service over the years for helping him 959 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 4: overcome some of these challenges, as he's able to live 960 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 4: an easier, tidier life because of it. I as well 961 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 4: have made adjustments in my compulsive need for cleaning by 962 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 4: reading extensively on my issues and have learned to be 963 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 4: more flexible with the need for perfection at all times 964 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 4: as I know it's not conducive to a healthy own life, 965 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 4: nor is it anywhere near feasible for our household. A 966 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 4: normal day's tours are to cook dinner, give the baby 967 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,479 Speaker 4: a bath, readier bag an outfit for the next day, 968 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 4: unload and load the dishwasher after dinner, sweep the floors, 969 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 4: and give the dog a short walk. This may sound 970 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 4: like a lot for one evening, but it would generally 971 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 4: only take us about an hour between arriving home and 972 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 4: being completely done with everything, including eating and ready to 973 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 4: relax in our night and spend time with our kiddo. 974 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 4: Then my mother in law moved in. In the interest 975 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 4: of time, I will simply bullet the type of things 976 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 4: we are now facing on a daily basis. Species or 977 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 4: urine on the toilet seat or bowl that must be 978 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 4: cleaned prior to use, species or urine on her bedroom 979 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 4: floor from her dog that is not properly clean, dog 980 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 4: hair in every room all over the floor, furniture counter's table, 981 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 4: toilet seat, shower drawers and covers, including on clean dishes, 982 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 4: and laundry dog poop on the floor from her not 983 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 4: cleaning up her dog's mess and either stepping in it 984 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 4: herself and tracking it inside. We don't see this mess 985 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,760 Speaker 4: until we get home some six hours later. She leaves 986 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 4: for work at twelve pm. 987 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 3: Is she not cleaning her feet off? 988 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 4: No, she's just going to work with poop dog poop feet. 989 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 2: Either she's completely insensitive in her feet area, or she 990 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 2: sees it. 991 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 4: Washes it off, then leaves so by then it's very 992 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,919 Speaker 4: dry and must be scrubbed off half or improperly done 993 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,760 Speaker 4: chores that ultimately just create more work or financial burden 994 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 4: on us. Examples of this are only putting half the 995 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 4: clean dishes away from the dish washer and then loading 996 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,919 Speaker 4: the dirty dishes so that we're washing clean dishes over 997 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 4: and over again. 998 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 2: What this is weaponized and competence. This is there's no way. 999 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 4: I'm having a conversation with her and I'm saying you 1000 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 4: have to fix this or you're leaving. 1001 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 2: The first time the dog poops done, Hey, yo, dog outside, 1002 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 2: cannot outside, Sorry, build a dog here. You need to leave. 1003 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 2: Second time, Hey, you can't stay here with your dog. 1004 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 4: You're gone. 1005 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,399 Speaker 2: Third time you are gone out out you. 1006 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 4: Are gone, leaving clean dishes piled up on the counters 1007 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 4: and claiming she doesn't know where they go. Overloading or 1008 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 4: loading food cake dishes into the dishwasher that will never 1009 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 4: get clean on their own, then rerunning them over and 1010 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 4: over in the dishwasher without addressing the obvious, very glued 1011 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 4: on food, putting away dishes in the cupboards and drawers 1012 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 4: with very obvious caked on food, cleaning up after herself 1013 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 4: when making food or preparing her coffee, but leaving very 1014 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 4: obvious coffee streaks, stains, crumbs, and condiments, trips all over counters, 1015 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,919 Speaker 4: the microwave, fridge, freezer, randalls, drawers, and cabinet poles in front. 1016 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 4: Basically anything that gets spilled just gets the most superficial 1017 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,439 Speaker 4: smear of a dry cloth, and she calls it done. 1018 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 4: Doing multiple very small loads of laundry that she then 1019 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 4: folds and leaves on top of the washing machine, which 1020 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,320 Speaker 4: piles up to the ceiling and then topples over onto 1021 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,879 Speaker 4: the floor of our basement We've abandoned trying to keep 1022 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 4: the basement tidy, so if anything falls to the floor, 1023 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 4: it's doomed. The laundry is also so covered in dog 1024 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 4: hair that it often clogs the plumbing, which then requires 1025 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 4: my husband to go rooting around to dig out the blockage. 1026 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 4: And with all the poop and pee being washed out 1027 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 4: of hers and her dogs blankets, you can imagine what 1028 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 4: the backed up water must be. 1029 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 2: Light in their blankets. 1030 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 4: This is my nightmare. This is my nightmare. This is 1031 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 4: by no means an exhaustive list of the issues that 1032 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 4: we're dealing with on a day to day basis, and 1033 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,879 Speaker 4: my husband and I are on the same page about 1034 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 4: enough being enough. Recently, sometime mid December, she decided to 1035 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 4: purchase a new vehicle, which my husband and I supported 1036 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,760 Speaker 4: because the vehicle she was driving wasn't a good purchase 1037 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 4: to begin with, and she'd been having nothing but issues 1038 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 4: with it since its purchase three to four years ago. 1039 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 4: The issue here is that she became enamored with a 1040 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 4: pickup truck, likely from how much my husband went on 1041 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 4: about how much he loved it. He's a mechanic and 1042 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 4: a truck enthusiast. That was simply too much vehicle for 1043 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 4: a little sixty something year old woman, both in performance 1044 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 4: as well as cost. The trim toe package and all 1045 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,240 Speaker 4: its bells and whistles are included, making it a massive 1046 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 4: financial burden on her. She can sleep, use that in 1047 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 4: the bed, Yeah, use that money to buy a place. 1048 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 4: Now her financial support has fallen to the wayside as 1049 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 4: she no longer pays her portion of utilities and only 1050 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,399 Speaker 4: pays about half of her share of the grocery bill 1051 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 4: as she's become up to her eyeballs in debt. Her 1052 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 4: truck and insurance payment alone is somewhere north of one 1053 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 4: thousand dollars per month combined. My husband and I have 1054 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 4: decided to cut her some slack, as she's voiced her 1055 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 4: concern with feeling like she's ripping us off from a 1056 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,399 Speaker 4: financial perspective, Well, she. 1057 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 3: Is, you are. 1058 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 4: You're a terrible house guest. So we're only asking her 1059 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 4: for a portion of the rent about four hundred dollars 1060 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 4: per month, and everything else we can simply eat for 1061 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 4: the time being, the caveat being that she trims the 1062 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,359 Speaker 4: fat and sorts her finances in the interim. She's been 1063 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 4: working on obtaining a second job, totally unnecessary from my 1064 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 4: point of view, as she's a nurse and makes well 1065 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 4: over what my husband and I do combined, which is 1066 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,439 Speaker 4: of course both good and bad. 1067 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,839 Speaker 2: Then sell the car, sell the car, get a more 1068 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 2: affordable one, even if truck, get a more affordable truck. 1069 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 2: And then like if you're making more than the husband. 1070 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 4: Both and by good because it means more money for 1071 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 4: her and less time and that has to make big 1072 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 4: messes bad because it means no time to relax and 1073 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 4: recoup from her work week and no time to spend 1074 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 4: with family or friends. In addition to the myriad of 1075 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 4: cleaning issues and the recent financial burden we've taken on, 1076 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 4: she struggles with regular use. Those who know anything about 1077 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 4: that and know that it's very possible and likely to 1078 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:56,280 Speaker 4: swap one less socially acceptable doc for another more palatable one. 1079 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 4: My mother in law used to be addicted to pain 1080 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 4: medications and now strug with control as it pertains to 1081 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 4: food and shopping. She also spends vast amounts of time 1082 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 4: glued to her phone to the point of neglecting my 1083 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 4: daughter when she has been left in her care. 1084 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 2: This fath is not she's gone. 1085 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 4: She's gone. 1086 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 2: She's gone, She's not being around. 1087 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 4: I'm not leaving her in the carab You know I'm 1088 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:16,399 Speaker 4: not leaving my daughter. 1089 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 2: You can visit, but you're never alone. 1090 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 4: She has a very ill group of friends and semi 1091 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 4: relationships that all sort of pat each other's backs and 1092 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 4: sink into victimhood rather than addressing the very real concerns 1093 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 4: their friends and family may have for them. This is 1094 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 4: exemplified in the way that my mother in law snaps 1095 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 4: and collapses in on herself emotionally whenever my husband or 1096 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 4: I attempt to bring any of her behaviors to her attention. 1097 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 4: We understand that regular use should be handled very delicately. 1098 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 4: Both my husband and I have struggled with her own 1099 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 4: forms of regular use, so for her to say we 1100 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 4: don't know what we're talking about is simply untrue and 1101 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 4: a juvenile tactic of avoidance. As of a month ago, 1102 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 4: we're no closer to a solution, no updates on her 1103 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 4: financial input, and she's totally ineffectual at lending help with childcare. 1104 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 4: Cleanliness concerns are stacking up. I'm so lost, and I'm 1105 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 4: struggling not to hurt my mother in law because I 1106 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 4: do love her and I desperately don't want to hurt her. 1107 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 4: And anyway, there's a little bit left to the story. 1108 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 2: You gotta get her out of there. She's family, but 1109 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,720 Speaker 2: she's putting your daughter and your pets, and your home 1110 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 2: and your sanity and your finances at risk because you're 1111 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 2: paying to clean You're you're spending all that time, all 1112 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 2: that money, all those resources to clean up her mess. 1113 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 2: What happens if your child or your pets like eat 1114 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 2: that dog poop literally or and like it's getting it's 1115 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 2: clogging up yours, your pipes, it's in the blankets. 1116 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 4: It's just not safe. It's not safe. 1117 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 2: I don't understand how she can live like this. 1118 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 1: I know. 1119 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 4: My question is how much is enough? 1120 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 3: Is it? 1121 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,760 Speaker 4: At this point we give her the boot? 1122 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 3: Yes? 1123 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 2: Yes? 1124 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 4: Am I simply expecting too much? 1125 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: Yes? 1126 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 3: No? 1127 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 2: No, no, No, you're expecting exactly the proper amount? Yeah? 1128 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 4: Or is my aversion to her lack of personal awareness? 1129 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 4: Just off? I? 1130 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 2: No? 1131 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:01,439 Speaker 1: Yes? 1132 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 2: Ye are yeah? I mean I thought I heard the 1133 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,800 Speaker 2: just I'm like, no, it is justified. 1134 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 4: How would you go about handling this? I have my 1135 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 4: daughter to think about two and we just can't keep 1136 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 4: living like this. Please, any suggestions are welcome. 1137 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 2: Even without the daughter. Like human and animal feces not okay. 1138 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 4: I'm not living in that, and you shouldn't be putting 1139 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 4: your daughter in that. And you have to focus in 1140 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,760 Speaker 4: your daughter. But that's the end of that story. 1141 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 2: Hey, it's sam og Host. We're gonna get back to 1142 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:27,760 Speaker 2: these delectable stories. 1143 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 4: But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors to 1144 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 4: help support the show. My mother in law insulted my 1145 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 4: cooking after I made it specifically for her. 1146 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 5: Ooh no, we're cooking for her. 1147 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 4: My mother in law moved in with us three months ago, 1148 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 4: temporary but long term situation. I've been struggling to adjust 1149 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 4: to her intrusive and at times overbearing presence, but overall, 1150 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,879 Speaker 4: she does love me and has good intentions. She does 1151 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 4: her best to be kind. I think I believe the 1152 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 4: intrusive behaviors come from cultural differences, but it can be 1153 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 4: very suffocating and offensive sometimes. By the way, this comes 1154 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 4: from Banana Bread fifty two to forty one. And if 1155 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 4: you want to spit your own stories, go to the 1156 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 4: r slash Okay, storytime, separate it. 1157 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,359 Speaker 5: I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and we both have aleries, and we. 1158 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 4: Both have allergies. But we're here to give good advice. 1159 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,280 Speaker 4: Goofy anyway, But we don't have all the answeres. 1160 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 2: We only have aleries. 1161 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 4: Allerg Jesus let us know what you and do in 1162 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 4: the comments, She's decided to go vegan for Lents. I 1163 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 4: wanted to do something nice for her, so I decided 1164 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 4: to go the Impossible brand vegan ground beef and make 1165 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,880 Speaker 4: a dish out of it. It took me almost two 1166 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 4: hours in the morning to prep and then another three 1167 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 4: in the evening to actually cook. 1168 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 1: Food. 1169 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 4: Finally is ready to eat, and she's being very nice. 1170 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,919 Speaker 4: At first, I say to my husband and her, how 1171 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 4: crazy it is that Impossible brand tastes so much like 1172 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 4: real meat, and we're talking about how they do it. 1173 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 4: Now I'm pressed, I am I how it can taste 1174 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 4: and have the texture exactly like real ground beef. She 1175 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 4: was really excited that this is even an option during 1176 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 4: her vegan period. Fast forward, as I'm putting the leftovers away, 1177 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 4: she comes up to me and starts critiquing the food. 1178 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 4: It's good, but I think you need to add these 1179 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 4: spices to make it taste more like meat, and then 1180 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 4: it would be better. It doesn't taste like meat. She 1181 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 4: proceeds to repeat her critiques a couple of times over 1182 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,839 Speaker 4: the course at the evening, always in a moment where 1183 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 4: my husband is just out of earshot. So you can't 1184 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 4: hear her. Not sure if that's on purpose or not, 1185 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 4: but yeah, I know it seems small and overall she 1186 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 4: was grateful for the meal, but for me, this was 1187 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,720 Speaker 4: just the straw that broke the camel's back. It's always 1188 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 4: little comments like this throughout the day, always her trying 1189 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 4: to teach me how to do everything, as if I'm 1190 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 4: not a fully grown woman and she simply knows all, 1191 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 4: which is ironic because most days she's always doing at 1192 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 4: least one thing that makes me wonder if she's a 1193 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 4: little slow, always breaking things, never listens to house rules, 1194 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 4: et cetera. I didn't even have to cook for her. 1195 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 4: I did so out of kindness, and then after hours 1196 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 4: of effort, she decides she'd like to teach me how 1197 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 4: to cook. Cooking is my happy place and my hobby. 1198 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,439 Speaker 4: Perhaps I'm being too sensitive here, but it's the one 1199 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,919 Speaker 4: thing I know I'm an expert at. I've been told 1200 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 4: as much, and I find it ridiculously insulting and never 1201 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 4: want someone to lie if they don't like my food. 1202 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,840 Speaker 4: But if you don't like it, just don't eat it 1203 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 4: and move on. It's rude to offer opinions on advice unsolicited, 1204 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 4: especially when literally one day ago she didn't even know 1205 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 4: vegan meat existed, like at all. She immigrated here recently 1206 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 4: from a country that doesn't have that sort of thing, apparently, 1207 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 4: and suddenly she's an expert on how to use it 1208 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 4: in cooking. Am I overreacting or reading too deep into it? 1209 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:19,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just love it. 1210 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,759 Speaker 5: How she's like, this meat could taste like meat, it 1211 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,320 Speaker 5: could taste meteor. You know it needs meat. 1212 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 4: I think it just needs meat. 1213 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:26,839 Speaker 2: Girl. 1214 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,800 Speaker 4: Sorry, guys, been bottling up my frustrations and just needed 1215 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 4: to vent. I know it's a minor thing. This morning, 1216 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 4: she brought out her little cookbook to make a cake 1217 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 4: and said, I really wish this book was in English 1218 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 4: because that would be helpful for you. Somebody, please take 1219 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 4: me off a ledge. I ignored her comment entirely, but 1220 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 4: I'm really close to being a witch at this point. 1221 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 4: My husband has gone at work right now. Go figure. 1222 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 4: I will say that one. I feel like it depends 1223 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:50,360 Speaker 4: on how. 1224 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 3: She said it. 1225 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 5: I feel like that could just be like, hey, like I. 1226 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,879 Speaker 4: Want I wish, Yeah, I wish that because I want 1227 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 4: to make this cake, but it's not in English. So 1228 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 4: if you ever wanted to make a cake from this cookbook, 1229 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 4: couldn't I feel. 1230 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 6: Like that if someone's sharing recipes, I get how she 1231 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 6: delivered it. Yes, but if someone's sharing recipes, I think, 1232 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 6: especially for like people who love to cook, I feel 1233 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 6: like that's like one of the most. 1234 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 4: Like I love sharing recipes with you. 1235 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 5: It's like one of the most grateful things you can 1236 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 5: do among people. 1237 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 4: There is an update, Well, you were all right, She's 1238 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 4: not well intentioned and innocent after all, Ear and her 1239 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 4: two daughters are both toxic as heck, and her true 1240 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 4: colors finally showed he comes from a Middle Eastern household. 1241 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 4: In their Christian she tried to cite the Ten Commandments 1242 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 4: as her reasoning. I went to Catholic school for eighteen 1243 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 4: years growing up, and I'm very aware of the fact 1244 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 4: that the Bible states that nobody accept God himself comes 1245 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 4: before your wife. But I digress. 1246 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 1: Oh. 1247 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 4: She also stated that she's not living with us, then 1248 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 4: my husband will be paying for her to have a 1249 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 4: place to stay and have his own bank account just 1250 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 4: for her expenses, and that this was also end of story. 1251 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 4: Mother in law and sister in law's justification for this 1252 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 4: is because she paid for his medical school and you 1253 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 4: guys wouldn't be here without mother in law's financial So. 1254 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 2: Oh my, I love the you be here if I didn't, 1255 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 2: you know, have you. 1256 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 3: Huh? 1257 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 4: I think this is simply untrue for two reasons. I 1258 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 4: have never ever accepted any sort of financial assistance from 1259 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 4: her myself, and my husband never asked her for help. 1260 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,439 Speaker 4: She gave it to him willingly, because that's what parents do. 1261 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 4: It wasn't money she earned, it was money father in 1262 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 4: law had set aside for him many years ago for 1263 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 4: his education. And if they hadn't done that, my husband 1264 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 4: was fully prepared to pull out student loans. Me in 1265 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 4: my side of the family have collectively paid more than 1266 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 4: half of our rent and bills for the past five years. 1267 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 4: I honestly am too tired to explain how we got 1268 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 4: here in this big argument. Maybe I'll make another post later. 1269 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 4: I'll probably post later today about how absolutely insane his 1270 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 4: family has been towards me and us for the past 1271 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 4: two days. Or the record, my husband does not agree 1272 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 4: that mother comes before wife. He does believe it is 1273 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 4: his duty to take care of her if she cannot 1274 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 4: care for herself, which I've never been against because we 1275 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 4: both love her and I want the same for my 1276 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 4: mom too, as long as it isn't impact acting our 1277 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 4: finances or marriage. Currently mother in law is impacting both. Anyways, 1278 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 4: my husband is finally aware of how she treats me 1279 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 4: because I recorded the conversation. Thanks for the advice, Reddit. 1280 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 4: He's working one hundred hour weeks right now with zero 1281 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 4: days off for the next few weeks, so he hasn't 1282 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 4: had time or energy to address it, but he has 1283 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 4: assured me that he is going to once he can. 1284 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 4: That might be a while, it would seem. Until then, 1285 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 4: all I have is the ability to vent about it 1286 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 4: on Reddit. Love that for me. Am I the a 1287 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 4: hole for not thinking that the cultural standards he was 1288 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 4: raised in applied to us and our marriage because I 1289 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 4: am fifty percent of this household. In my eyes, When 1290 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 4: we got married, we left our old lives behind and 1291 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 4: started a new family with our own family culture that 1292 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 4: can be whatever we want it to be. And there 1293 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 4: is a third update. It was a group call between me, husband, 1294 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 4: mother in law, and the two sister in laws. A 1295 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 4: lot happened, but at one point they were all ganging 1296 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 4: up on your husband. 1297 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 5: Oh, I was gonna say, yeah, they probably bullying him 1298 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 5: to do this, It's. 1299 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 6: Gonna be the thing of like everyone's like this is 1300 00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 6: someone someone disagrees and like it starts getting to like 1301 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 6: a huge ruckus and they're diverting the anger to somebody 1302 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 6: in the group. I was going to say, either a 1303 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 6: husband or op. 1304 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, about how he never emotionally validates them when they're 1305 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 4: up thet sister in law made a comment saying, when 1306 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 4: we visited for Christmas, I saw you comforting and validating Ope, 1307 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 4: and it made me jealous. She continued on about how 1308 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 4: he hasn't been a good brother or good son lately. 1309 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 4: Nobody else seemed to clock that comment, ben I did. 1310 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,320 Speaker 4: She said this to illustrate how she wishes he would 1311 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 4: comfort and validate her when she's upset the way he 1312 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 4: does me. But let's be for real, the real message 1313 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 4: behind all of this was, really. 1314 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 3: We're jealous after our wife. 1315 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 4: The truth finally slipped up. I just looked at my 1316 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,920 Speaker 4: husband and quietly said, mn. There it is for context. 1317 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 4: My mother in law lives with us and his whole 1318 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 4: rest of his family. Both sister in law's plus older 1319 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 4: sister in law's husband stayed with us for almost two 1320 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 4: weeks during Christmas. He was comforting me a bunch because 1321 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 4: of the amount of stress we were both under having 1322 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 4: to host them for Christmas at our house because they 1323 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 4: were being difficult. Guess, despite my knowing this would be 1324 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 4: a hard time for me, I welcomed them with open 1325 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 4: arms and was bending over backwards to accommodate them. So yeah, 1326 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 4: he was comforting me and validating me when I wanted 1327 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 4: hugs and kisses. I'm sorry your brother wasn't hugging you enough. 1328 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 4: What do you mean you're jealous? I honestly cannot with 1329 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 4: these guys anyway. How's your week going? 1330 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 1: Edit? 1331 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 4: To clarify, the sister in law who's married isn't the 1332 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,479 Speaker 4: one that made this comment. It was the younger sister 1333 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 4: in law that said it. They are all fully grown adults. 1334 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 4: By the way, younger sister in law does have a 1335 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 4: boyfriend that wasn't present over the holiday, and there is 1336 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 4: a fourth up day. Never Mind the fact that my 1337 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 4: own husband has directly told her that he believes God 1338 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 4: has acknowledged me as his wife, and that she was 1339 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 4: out of line for even saying that at all. Never 1340 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 4: mind the fact that neither of us is nearly as 1341 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 4: religious as she is. To begin with, also that if 1342 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 4: we had kids in her country, they'd be considered illegitimate 1343 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 4: children and would not get any inheritance if my husband 1344 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 4: passed away. My response, well, I guess it's a good 1345 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 4: thing we don't live in that country and that doesn't 1346 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 4: have any assets there to inherit to begin with. Finally 1347 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 4: got her paperwork in order, and my husband is finally 1348 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,919 Speaker 4: seen her for who she is, a disrespectful, entitled mother 1349 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 4: in law from heck, He's agreed that once she leaves 1350 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 4: this time, we will be informing her that she's no 1351 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 4: longer allowed to live with us any further. She will 1352 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,440 Speaker 4: likely insist that he pays for her to live elsewhere, 1353 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,440 Speaker 4: even though we can't afford it and also want to 1354 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 4: save up so we can actually live our own lives. 1355 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 4: But at this point I'd rather lose money just to 1356 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 4: get her out of my hair than have to suffer 1357 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 4: another moment longer with her in my house. My peace 1358 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 4: comes out of financial price, it seems, and frankly, I'm 1359 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 4: willing to pay it. During the fight, my mother in 1360 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 4: law said a few other lovely nuggets. She told my 1361 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 4: husband that he only has one mother, but he could 1362 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 4: have many different women if he wanted. She insisted that 1363 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 4: she wasn't mean, but that she could be mean if 1364 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,439 Speaker 4: she wanted to. He even added that she could say 1365 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 4: things like my fister in laws better than me, but 1366 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,080 Speaker 4: she chooses not to. 1367 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 1368 01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 4: She says to you. I could say that your sister 1369 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 4: in law is better than you. 1370 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:03,800 Speaker 2: I could say it. 1371 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 4: I could say it, but I won't. That's you saying it, girl, 1372 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 4: you just said it. She accused us of installing security 1373 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 4: cameras just to spy on her all day, even though 1374 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 4: we've had them for five years because of our dog, 1375 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 4: and she's only been living with us for six months. Finally, 1376 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 4: she claimed that my father in law's biggest regret was 1377 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 4: letting my husband come to this country, saying that I 1378 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 4: was taking him away from his family. Anyways, I'm at 1379 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 4: my wits end. I told husband that I'm giving him 1380 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 4: until July. If I don't see a purchase plane ticket 1381 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 4: by then with a specific date in hand that says 1382 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 4: exactly when she's leaving, and if said flight is not 1383 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 4: sometime before the end of this year, then I will 1384 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,720 Speaker 4: be moving out by the end of July. I won't 1385 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 4: divorce him, but I won't be living like this anymore, 1386 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 4: and I sures heck won't be paying rent or utilities 1387 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,440 Speaker 4: here if I move out, and that is the end 1388 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 4: of that story. 1389 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 5: I don't like ultimatums.