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Speaker 1: This is Mick Shots, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Heckmharrison,

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Speaker 1: Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: It's time for another week of football here at the

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Speaker 3: Star in Frisco, inside the s w BC podcast living room.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is.

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Speaker 3: Everson Walls, heck Ma Harrison, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 4: This is Mick Shots.

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Speaker 5: We need a card table right here, guys, so I

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Speaker 5: can be whooping up on y'all and talking at the

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Speaker 5: same time, and we're gonna sit like this.

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Speaker 6: What finger were you holding up back?

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Speaker 2: There wasn't index.

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Speaker 4: We're number one.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, it's time to get started on an NF

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys kick started.

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Speaker 4: Okay, they kicked off the off season in a very

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Speaker 4: big way over the weekend. We'll get into that.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into the scouting combine in Indianapolis, where live

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Speaker 3: shots are emanating right now as I watch on the

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Speaker 3: monitor over there on the NFL network, and there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of people empty to me, well that you.

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Speaker 4: Know what's empty.

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Speaker 3: But this parking garage, parking lot, there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: people here that are either are at work.

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Speaker 4: Today or maybe they're in Indianapolis. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 6: Is that what it is? Oh?

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Speaker 7: There might be five or six people.

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Speaker 6: Here, okay, and aren't here.

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Speaker 3: It is easier, is easier finding all four people here?

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Speaker 6: Though? Yes, it is nice to have a parking place.

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Speaker 7: Do you have a nice week in New Orleans?

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Speaker 6: I did?

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Speaker 4: Is that where you went?

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Speaker 6: No? No?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 7: I thought I figured you were at the HBCU.

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Speaker 6: Oh man, that's good.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 3: We went back to last Tuesday, ever, Sin and you

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Speaker 3: texted us at eight Let's see, we were on at

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Speaker 3: nine o'clock on Tuesday. You texted us at eight twenty.

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Speaker 4: I drive in and you know who got here by

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Speaker 4: nine oh five? Nate and Frisco.

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Speaker 2: Tore the highway down.

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Speaker 7: Yeah right, but he had a story to tell, and

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Speaker 7: he tore up the show he did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, story to tell.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We talked about his pardon his presidential part.

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Speaker 9: Oh man, that's too funny. I'm sorry. Now Nate can vote.

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Speaker 9: I'm sure that's what was holding them back.

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Speaker 7: Better vote right than.

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Speaker 4: Or in your case, vote left.

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Speaker 10: Right?

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Speaker 6: Good, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Before we get into football, I know Mickey wants to

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Speaker 3: get into one other thing.

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Speaker 7: What's that?

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Speaker 4: That's what happened on Sunday morning?

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Speaker 7: Who got up at seven am to watch?

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Speaker 2: I watched gold.

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Speaker 3: Metal, watch games, metal hockey, yep, men and women, men

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Speaker 10: It was it was almost like the whole game was

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Speaker 10: sudden death. I don't know if I've seen a hockey

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Speaker 10: game where every possession or whatever happened with the you

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Speaker 10: had to pay attention, couldn't sit there and look at

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Speaker 10: your laptop or your phone. Every possession counted. It was amazing.

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Speaker 6: I didn't know we were that good in hockey.

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Speaker 3: Well they are NHL players playing, so yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 10: Well you were in NHL against you, you know, the NNHL.

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Speaker 10: I just was disappointed that they played overtime three on

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Speaker 10: three instead of sudden death.

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Speaker 7: Like the NHL.

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Speaker 10: When you get in the playoffs, there's no three on

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Speaker 10: three in the playoff games. You play sudden death and

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Speaker 10: then turn it into a skills competition.

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Speaker 4: And I can about earlier.

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Speaker 3: There's in the quarterfinal round four quarterfinal games, three of

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Speaker 10: Yeah, playoff hockey like that, maybe the round rock Like.

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Speaker 4: With the NFL, you play like a regular game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just play a regular game.

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Speaker 6: But they still want to play it like amateurs, right.

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Speaker 7: Well, or no, they're not acting.

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Speaker 6: I mean that's where it started off, right.

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Speaker 10: The Miracle, Yeah that was amateur right, yeah against the professional.

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Speaker 9: Yeah that was, but they still go by the same

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Speaker 7: Though yeah they changed the Uh.

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Speaker 10: Netflix has a great documentary on that game.

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Speaker 4: The Miracle on the Miracle on Ice.

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Speaker 10: Everybody I tell people and they go, well, I saw

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Speaker 10: that movie. I said, that's this is not a movie,

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Speaker 10: it's a documentary. They brought nineteen of those guys back

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Speaker 7: If you haven't seen.

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Speaker 3: It on Netflix, never before seen footage that was one.

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Speaker 10: Of the coaches, and they explained how the Cold War

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Speaker 10: made that even more dramatic because we were still, you know,

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Speaker 10: battling Russia. We're not battling Canada. Now Canada might be

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Speaker 10: battling US.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, they're battling those terroriffts.

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Speaker 5: But you know what I love about what happened yesterday

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Speaker 5: was how sports finds a way to unify. And you know,

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Speaker 5: maybe for a day or two, everyone was so happy

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Speaker 5: and proud about the United States winning the gold medal,

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Speaker 5: but also, man, I just want to give a special

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Speaker 5: shout out to Ellen Ellen Hughes, mother of Connor Hughes.

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Speaker 3: Ellen Weinberg Hughes, Yes, who grew up in Dallas, by the.

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Speaker 2: Way, worn Missouri, grew up in Dallas.

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Speaker 7: A a lot of good things about her.

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Speaker 5: You know, obviously, when it comes down to sports and

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Speaker 5: superstar athletes, there's always either a coach, a great coach

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Speaker 5: of parents behind those athletes. And I mean in their household,

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Speaker 5: they're probably probably those brothers are the third and fourth

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Speaker 2: Knowing that their mother was a you know, wow, not

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Speaker 5: She's soccer, hockey and lacrosse, uh in college as well.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, I think all of those things, all

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Speaker 5: the stories that end up coming out and in situations

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Speaker 5: like this, but you know, shout out, you know, to

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Speaker 5: winning the gold medal, that's big for everybody, and I

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Speaker 5: was everybody was super excited. I was in Austin this weekend,

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Speaker 6: Oh wow, and uh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, branching out to lacrosse. Now, there's no way doing that,

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Speaker 2: So I mean, come on, guys, don't be surprised.

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Speaker 6: So what you were talking about?

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Speaker 9: That was the one who was also connected to the

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Speaker 9: nineteen eighty teen No, she was.

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Speaker 10: She was connected to the women's She was like a

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Speaker 4: She's the mom.

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Speaker 3: She's two of the players. Quinn Hughes scored the game

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Speaker 3: winning gol in overtime. He plays for the Minnesota Wild,

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Speaker 3: and he scored the game winning goal in overtime to

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Speaker 3: younger brother, scored the game winning goal yesterday.

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Speaker 4: The mom.

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Speaker 3: She actually wasn't born here, but got to Texas as

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Speaker 3: quickly as she could. Her father, doctor Warren Weinberg, was

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Speaker 3: grew up here and as a girl played on boys

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Speaker 6: My son, he.

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Speaker 9: Played baseball and they had a girl that was a

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Speaker 9: picture and she was really good. Well you're not ambassing

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Speaker 9: that it is for kids, and the girl strikes you out.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, yeah, still softball. Wait aute, A lot of

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Speaker 6: From the boys going up. I can't let this girl

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Speaker 3: And with her, that was long before hockey became really

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Speaker 3: But she was also a dominant soccer player for the

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Speaker 3: Solars Sting or whatever in nineteen eighty four, one of

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Speaker 3: they produced some pretty good hockey gas. So I said,

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Speaker 7: Wow, DNA counts. Wow.

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Speaker 5: So I said, third and fourth best in their family.

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Speaker 5: That's right, But I mean, hey, is there anything relatable

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Speaker 5: for the drought that the US hockey team had to

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Speaker 2: I mean a forties.

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Speaker 5: Everyone's been talking about this, that forty six year drought,

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Speaker 5: and the hockey team felt like always the brides made,

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Speaker 4: Out, I mean, we're waiting forty six years.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 5: What I'm not no, Bill, What I'm trying to say

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Speaker 5: is is there anything relatable to that? Because you have

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Speaker 5: professional athletes that have to put their egos on the

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Speaker 5: that play out obviously yesterday. And also rules changes that

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Speaker 5: going until what five or six overtimes as many people

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Speaker 5: have complained about that could have done if it had

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Speaker 10: Well you have to understand also, how many of those

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They were so unbelievable about the nineteen eighty miracle, Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Because those were all the Russians were all professional, they

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Speaker 4: And we were Union at the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Sorry, and we were playing with college kids or high

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, but go look go watch the documentary. It'll

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Speaker 10: put everything in perspective, especially since some of those guys

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Speaker 10: have passed away. Some of them look like they're sixty

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Speaker 10: some years old because they would have been most of

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Speaker 10: them in their twenties in nineteen eighty had another forty

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Speaker 10: six years to it. But it was really emotional for

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Speaker 10: those guys because they brought them back to Lake Placid,

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Speaker 7: The streets too.

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Speaker 10: And they showed the old ice skating rink outdoors where

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Speaker 10: they had they had the Olympic speed skating on this

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Speaker 10: outdoor rink, by the way, that I actually skated on.

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Speaker 10: I got sent to Lake Placid before the eighty eight

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Speaker 10: renting skates. I'm skating on that that oval that was outdoors.

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Speaker 4: How fast did you go?

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Speaker 7: I got around?

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Speaker 6: How many times did you fall?

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Speaker 10: That's almost the most important that yeah, yeah, because they'll

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Blue Star imaging right here right, Hey, lot's Scott

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Speaker 3: Every and every city in the country has that too.

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Speaker 5: I'm eliminating anybody that cannot play opening Day.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's let's let's do it right now.

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Speaker 6: I think it's like that nation throughout the entire league.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I just I find it kind of interesting.

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Speaker 5: be there has to be refreshing for Dak, for SHODDI,

449
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Speaker 5: for all the guys involved, and for him.

450
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Speaker 10: He wanted for sure, But one of the reasons they

451
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 10: got this deal done is he and his agent didn't

452
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Speaker 10: want to.

453
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Speaker 7: Test that's right, the market. And that's what I'm saying,

454
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Speaker 7: and that's one of the he wants to hear.

455
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Speaker 10: These guys don't get signed early because they want to

456
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Speaker 10: test what the market value is.

457
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Speaker 9: I think, Yeah, I don't know much about moving around

458
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Speaker 9: a lot. You know, I went from you know, cowboys

459
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Speaker 9: and giants, and you know, the Browns thing was at

460
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Speaker 9: the end of my career, but when you start talking about,

461
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 9: you know, a little bit of a consistency in your career,

462
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 9: consistency and where you're taking your family, what city you

463
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 9: want to live in, you can't beat it coming here

464
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 9: in Dallas. I'm glad he didn't test the market. But

465
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 9: they're treating running backs as if they are, you know,

466
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Speaker 9: some type of auxiliary player or something like that, and

467
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Speaker 9: that is not cool for me. It's been going on

468
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Speaker 9: for over a decade. Tony Dorsett used to be the man.

469
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 9: Eric Dickerson used to be a man. All of these

470
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Speaker 9: names they built the NFL. I mean you can go,

471
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Speaker 9: of course, further back than that, but it all came

472
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Speaker 9: from the running back position. And now all of a

473
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 9: sudden they're devalued because we can find one anywhere.

474
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Speaker 6: That's not the case.

475
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Speaker 9: It's never been the case, but they keep trying to

476
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Speaker 9: make that case that the running backs are you know,

477
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 9: that's strange.

478
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Speaker 10: I think it has to do with longevity, like Halloween.

479
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 10: There's no doubt, you know, because there did a study

480
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Speaker 10: a few years ago that once the quarter running back

481
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Speaker 10: hits twenty eight eight or more, he's not the same

482
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 10: running back. And it's almost like you've got a lease car,

483
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 10: lease it until it's up, and then I get another one.

484
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 10: And a lot of teams are using two running backs too.

485
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Speaker 3: And this gets him to age twenty eight. Basically he's

486
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Speaker 3: a a three year he turns twenty six.

487
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Speaker 6: You think April five, I think that was by design?

488
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, well, using that data that you know

489
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Speaker 9: about us, all of a.

490
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Speaker 10: Sudden, you know what interesting story, Gil Brandt told me this. So,

491
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Speaker 10: when the Cowboys had the number two UH draft pick

492
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Speaker 10: in nineteen seventy five, and it came down to we're

493
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Speaker 10: either drafting Randy White or Walter Payton, and they said

494
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Speaker 10: they did a study that the defensive lineman linebacker had

495
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Speaker 10: a longer career running backs is great, and that was

496
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Speaker 10: their deciding factor. They took Randy White and the Bears

497
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Speaker 10: two picks later took Walter Payton.

498
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Speaker 3: Well, they all they had to do, they didn't have

499
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Speaker 3: to look aroun on the league. All they had to

500
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 3: do is look at their own team. And they had

501
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 3: Bob Lilly, It's a tackle who was going on about

502
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Speaker 3: his sixteenth year in the league at that time.

503
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Speaker 10: Well, they didn't have they didn't have a running back either,

504
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 10: or they had a running back, but yeah, that was

505
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 10: a dry spell.

506
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Speaker 7: That was a dry spell un till Dorset got here.

507
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Speaker 2: All right.

508
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Speaker 3: So the running back contracts in the league, and where

509
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: Javonte Williams ranks, he's as far as top thirty two

510
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 3: running backs, he's right in the middle, about sixteenth now

511
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 3: with eight million dollars per year. An equivalent contract might

512
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 3: is DeAndre Swift Chicago. He's on a well it's exactly

513
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Speaker 3: the same, which he becomes a free agent next year.

514
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Speaker 3: But three years, twenty four million dollars fourteen million fully guaranteed.

515
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: Tony Pollard's deal with Tennessee and Pollard now it's twenty

516
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 3: nine years old, so when they signed this was that

517
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Speaker 3: age twenty seven. His is a three year, twenty one

518
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 3: point seven five million dollar deal, ten and a half

519
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: million full of year.

520
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Speaker 10: And he may get cut because that third year is

521
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 10: too big.

522
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Speaker 2: Something.

523
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Speaker 4: He's got one year left.

524
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Speaker 10: And that's what happened with those three year deals. You

525
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 10: dump a lot of base salary into the last year

526
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Speaker 10: year and see, well, what did they do in the

527
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 10: first two years? Uh, And that's usually when the guaranteed

528
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 10: money is used up before you get to that third year.

529
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Speaker 9: I would imagine if they did another study, then everything

530
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 9: would change because you've got a lot of injuries out there,

531
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Speaker 9: especially from your interior alignment.

532
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Speaker 5: And that's funny. They do studies that fit them they

533
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 5: want to do. If it was the other way around,

534
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 5: they wouldn't publish it and let it be known. But

535
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Speaker 5: I think to your point, which is interesting, is the

536
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,479
Speaker 5: diminishing value of running backs. And then you look at

537
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 5: the going to the playoffs and look at guys like

538
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker and the impact that they had on their

539
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 5: team and them actually winning the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: So and by the way, he's a free ad.

541
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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a litmus test there.

542
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

543
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Speaker 7: Are they going to resign him? Are they going to

544
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Speaker 7: franchise him?

545
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Speaker 10: Because the running back franchise tag, I believe, is fourteen

546
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 10: million guaranteed one year.

547
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 7: So can you.

548
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Speaker 10: Afford your starting quarterback or running back and the guy

549
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Speaker 10: that helped you win a Super Bowl but might still

550
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 10: be the backup at fourteen million?

551
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Speaker 7: Probably not.

552
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Speaker 6: Wow.

553
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I couldn't even in the world really understand if

554
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 5: Walker would be the backup. I know him and Charbonay

555
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 5: you were talking about the two back system that a

556
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Speaker 5: lot of teams use.

557
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Speaker 2: Him being a backup.

558
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Speaker 5: I mean I thought he took the reins on that

559
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 5: job and Charbon, they just wouldn't go away.

560
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Speaker 6: It was a home run.

561
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Speaker 5: Every time you gave him the ball, he was making

562
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Speaker 5: something happen. So that was the story there. And so

563
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Speaker 5: even here in Dallas, I even wonder because just thinking

564
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Speaker 5: about william excuse me, Gavonte's production last season. He wasn't

565
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Speaker 5: like when you got when you played a guy that's

566
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Speaker 5: thirty two carries a game. You know, we're talking about

567
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 5: fourteenth horse.

568
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Speaker 6: We had a horse. We call him a horse.

569
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Speaker 5: Right, So that's what's changed about the NFL as well.

570
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Speaker 5: Guys are just not those four four quarter running backs.

571
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Speaker 6: Okay, so the only one that did that with Chicago

572
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Speaker 6: this year.

573
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Speaker 4: So let me ask yeah, let me ask you this.

574
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Speaker 3: Of the Cowboys, fine at running back right now, I

575
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: think where you got You've you've.

576
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Speaker 4: Got Javonte Williams.

577
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Speaker 3: You've got Jayden Blue fifth round pick last year, you

578
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: got Malik Davis, you got Phil Offa the seventh.

579
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Speaker 6: Round, which that second.

580
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and and then I got howder Lefke.

581
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Speaker 2: I think is a position all to them.

582
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Speaker 6: Every time he mentioned how this name, he smiled.

583
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Speaker 3: You see, but he doesn't count, right, But to your

584
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: case with the Seahawks with Kenneth Walker and Zach Charbone,

585
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: okay and Sharbon a second round drift pick. I mean

586
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Speaker 3: both they they invested top hundred picks on their on

587
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Speaker 3: their two top running backs. Cowboys have invested a now

588
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Speaker 3: with Yavonte Williams, he was a second round pick and

589
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: it's basically even with this salary, That's what that says

590
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: right there. But it was a fifth rounder. Malik Davis

591
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: was undrafted. We've seen glimpses of both of them. I

592
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: don't think that they're out of the market as far

593
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Speaker 3: as a veteran for bringing another and I think they

594
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Speaker 3: all yeah, kind of like a kind of they brought

595
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Speaker 3: in Miles Sanders as well as Javonte will You just

596
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: have to guard against an injury, and especially with Javonte's

597
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: injury history, you got to make sure that you're covered

598
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 3: at that position or.

599
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Speaker 10: They can't sell out with two young guys that haven't

600
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 10: really played in the league and produced. You know what

601
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 10: happens if if Javonte gets hurt, You're going to turn

602
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 10: it over to Jayden Blue.

603
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Speaker 3: And so what I'm talking about is say, yeah, veteran

604
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: minimum deal, something like that kind of.

605
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Speaker 9: The way Davis played that would that changed my narrative?

606
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Speaker 9: Do we need Absolutely? I don't think we need another.

607
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 9: I almost forgot about Miles Sanders. I almost forgot about No,

608
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 9: don't say that alone. I just I just think, Yeah,

609
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 9: what's running back right now?

610
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Speaker 6: We got him.

611
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Speaker 9: He wants to be here. He didn't go looking. I

612
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 9: like that, Malik Davis. I think that guy's is a

613
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 9: special talent. He's coming in ready to play at a

614
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 9: young age. I like him, I really do. He's the

615
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 9: one that makes the difference. And then you're talking about

616
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Speaker 9: a backup an olypate who can do all these things.

617
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Speaker 9: He's just switching on a knfe, so to speak. I

618
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 9: think we're good. I think we're change of pace.

619
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Speaker 5: What I saw with Davis, he was a change of pace,

620
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Speaker 5: completely different, And that's what I think teams that benefit

621
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Speaker 5: from having that to running back system. They have guys

622
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Speaker 5: that are completely different from one another.

623
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Speaker 6: And we are using them perfectly.

624
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Speaker 9: We are and now we have you have a quarterback

625
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 9: who's playing the waist, playing offensive line, got the potential

626
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Speaker 9: building of living up to the potential that they have.

627
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Speaker 6: I think, well, okay.

628
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: What did you say the age on a running back

629
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Speaker 3: is when eight lak Davis Stern's twenty eight.

630
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Speaker 2: November pack him up, kiss, pack him up.

631
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Speaker 4: We think him as being a young guy.

632
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Speaker 10: But he doesn't have mileage. He doesn't have mileage. John Right,

633
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Speaker 10: it's not like a first round pick comes in at

634
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 10: twenty two and six years of work.

635
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Speaker 6: Bill. Bill is about to tell all that down.

636
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 3: You just college free agent in twenty two, so that

637
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: meant twenty two, So he's going into his sixth year.

638
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: He's had some injury history.

639
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 4: That's the other thing.

640
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Speaker 9: Well, as long as we take the load off of him,

641
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 9: he's not the cabin that's alon matter of fact. He's

642
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 9: the backup, right. I think that's a good spot for him.

643
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Speaker 3: MafA is your between the tackles, Javonte back up.

644
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 5: MafA was the guy that I was in love with

645
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 5: everybody in a preseason, So that's the one.

646
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Speaker 3: As far as your depth, Yeah, if Giavante goes down,

647
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: MafA gets an opportunity.

648
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Speaker 6: And he'll step up. He will step up.

649
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 5: We got to find out who Jon, Yes, yes, we

650
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 5: gotta find out because that is the great unknown. As

651
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 5: you talk about the depth at running back and whether

652
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Speaker 5: you're going to bring in you know, free agency. If

653
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Speaker 5: if this kid is who we thought he was coming

654
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Speaker 5: out of Texas, then that shouldn't be any need to

655
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Speaker 5: bring anybody in. But I think there's there's a ton

656
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Speaker 5: of doubt over him, and no one.

657
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 2: Knows he's a Maazi.

658
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: Damn.

659
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Speaker 6: I gave react like that, let's go, let's go, let's go.

660
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Speaker 10: Ever did with Blue did in the final game of

661
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 10: the season, you saw his speed right, and you saw

662
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Speaker 10: him hitting between the tackles.

663
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Speaker 6: I saw him doing that in preseason as well.

664
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Speaker 7: And then he got hurt and then I don't.

665
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Speaker 4: Know you saw the second that game.

666
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Speaker 10: Yeah, right, Bozzie never had a game where he had

667
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 10: five six tackles, two for loss and.

668
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Speaker 3: Had that one tackle in that preseason game. Remember I

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Speaker 3: said six. Remember that it was like the last preseason

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Speaker 3: game and nobody blocked him.

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Speaker 4: It's like the parted and the game right to him

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Speaker 4: ever since.

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Speaker 6: Could have made that laughing at that, all right.

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Speaker 3: The other bit of news from Friday, Logan Wilson was released.

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Speaker 7: So they saved his base salary was going to be

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Speaker 7: six and a half million.

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Speaker 4: I bet that cover I could have made that decision.

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Speaker 10: I bet that covers what the first year.

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Speaker 4: Costs for Williams will be.

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Speaker 7: Because they've got work to do.

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Speaker 10: They can't sign Pickens or even franchise him with that

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Speaker 10: out restructuring Dak's contract, Ceedee Lamb's contract and probably another contract.

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Speaker 5: Well, to me, Logan was out of here the moment

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Speaker 5: he was, had his shoulder pads and helmet standing on

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Speaker 5: the sideline and didn't play a snap, and he was

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Speaker 5: the forgotten man.

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Speaker 9: They may have met him outside the locker room, man,

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Speaker 9: here's your stuff.

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Speaker 2: Him at the gold Post.

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Speaker 3: For truly, I think that the reason, and they spent

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Speaker 3: a seventh round.

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Speaker 6: Draft pick to acquire him.

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Speaker 2: He fired.

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Speaker 4: I truly think that the reason.

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Speaker 3: And people thought that okay, because the issues the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: were having a middle linebacker, that okay, okay, now they

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Speaker 3: got their guy, bringing Quinn and Williams and got this guy,

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Speaker 3: and now we're shoring things up for a stretch run here.

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Speaker 3: But he wasn't getting on the field at Cincinnati either,

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Speaker 3: and he was beat out by a rookie. I think

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Speaker 3: he lost a step. I think it's injuries or whatever.

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Speaker 3: You know, linebackers, like running backs, they don't last very long,

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Speaker 3: and he wasn't playing at the same level and that's

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Speaker 3: why the market, that's why he wasn't getting on the

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Speaker 3: field at Cincinnati. But basically what happened was Sanborn got

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Speaker 3: hurt and he was going to be out the rest

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Speaker 3: of the year and they needed another linebacker. And so

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Speaker 3: I think that's truly why they made the trade. It

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00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 3: wasn't with the idea he's gonna now they could get lucky,

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Speaker 3: and because they don't fully know their situation, but they

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00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: do watch film and they saw that he was playing

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00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati like he did here, I mean sideline to sideline.

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Speaker 3: You didn't see the athleticism that he had earlier in.

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Speaker 5: If he lost a step, you knew that before he

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Speaker 5: walked in the building, right and to me.

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Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying is you're bringing him in

717
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 3: because you needed to replace Sandborn as insurance or whatever.

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Speaker 5: But you're thirsty for linebacker talent, especially coming off of

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00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 5: last season and no production, not.

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Speaker 9: In that production, not in that capacity capacity, you want

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Speaker 9: him to come in. I thought he was going to

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Speaker 9: come in and make some moves. I thought he's gonna

723
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Speaker 9: come in and make a difference in the defense the

724
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Speaker 9: way we Clark and those guys did. I didn't see

725
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Speaker 9: it at all. Once he hit the field, I was disappointed.

726
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Speaker 9: I want to see something else.

727
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Speaker 3: If you went that, I think if you went and

728
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Speaker 3: looked at his tape at Cincinnati earlier in the season,

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't have felt that way about him. And obviously

730
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Speaker 3: the Cowboys knew that coming.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but they told us something different. That's what I

732
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Speaker 6: don't like seeing.

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Speaker 4: Well, and sometimes we don't tell you that.

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Speaker 10: Not on him in Cincinnati was they didn't like his

735
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Speaker 10: coverage as a three down linebacker and they went with

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Speaker 10: a younger guy that was faster and quicker. Well, he

737
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Speaker 10: got here, and there was a reason why they gave

738
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Speaker 10: up on him. But it was a seventh round pick.

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Speaker 6: For insurance, right, Yeah, now you say that, but now.

740
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Speaker 3: And they also knew his contract that the idea is okay, yeah,

741
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 3: he's not a long term player because but now they

742
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: need a middle linebacker.

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Speaker 9: I'm going to start taking everything they say around here

744
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 9: with a grain of salt, because they had me pumped

745
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 9: up about mister Wilson and nothing happened.

746
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Speaker 3: Now, Jerry said at the time, remember he leaked the news.

747
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Speaker 3: He was It was a Monday night game against Arizona

748
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 3: and he was on with what there's some podcast I

749
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Speaker 3: can't remember which one, And that's when he leaked the

750
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Speaker 3: news that we're about to make a trade for a linebacker.

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Speaker 6: But then he said, he said just like him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, let me tell you he's not Dick Buckets.

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Speaker 6: That he's not leave what joy? He said, He's not. Wow,

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Speaker 6: who is?

755
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Speaker 2: That's the foreshadow?

756
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Speaker 6: Yeah, she was honest. Wow.

757
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Speaker 3: All right, so much more to get to we ate

758
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Speaker 3: up that segment about that.

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Speaker 4: That was some good.

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Speaker 3: No telling what Mickey's got up his sleeve next and

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Speaker 3: what Hekma has on his laptop on his lap when

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Speaker 3: All Right, the crew back together ever since, has rejoined

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Speaker 3: us this week here for Mixed Shots, and we've covered

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Speaker 3: in the previous segments the news of the week. One

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Speaker 3: of the things before we get into Christian Parker's press

817
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Speaker 3: conference last week. Next move that the Cowboys should make

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Speaker 3: before free agency starts franchise fact franchise tag is it's

819
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Speaker 3: a week from tomorrow is the deadline on Pickens franchise tag.

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Speaker 10: And they also have to either get a contract or

821
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Speaker 10: give him a restricted free agent tender to Brandon Arbery

822
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Speaker 10: kind of important. You'd probably like to sign him to

823
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Speaker 10: a long term deal. The one year first round you

824
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Speaker 10: get in return if you don't match a restricted tender

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Speaker 10: from another team, it costs you seven million dollars. Okay,

826
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Speaker 10: so that's the first you would get a first.

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Speaker 3: So if you were if you were making the call,

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Speaker 3: you would put a first round tender on his restricted

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Speaker 3: free agent.

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Speaker 10: Second rounds like five points six million, so about the

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Speaker 10: same as long as you get the right of first refusal.

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Speaker 10: And I can't imagine they would refuse at any cost.

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Speaker 10: But you'd rather have somebody sign your contract instead of

834
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Speaker 10: having to match somebody else's contract. That might put a

835
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Speaker 10: poison pill in there that you couldn't handle.

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Speaker 4: Would a team give up first round draft pick for

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Speaker 4: a kicker.

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Speaker 6: For this one?

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Speaker 7: That's what I was going to say for this one.

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Speaker 6: What do you think that's.

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Speaker 4: The that's the fear on the first round? Yeah tender?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

843
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Speaker 4: And why would you?

844
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

845
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Speaker 10: And all you're saving is one point four million right

846
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Speaker 10: between first.

847
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Speaker 4: And I think they'll get a long term deal.

848
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Speaker 10: I think, and he wants to be here right right.

849
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Speaker 10: He don't want to go anywhere else.

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Speaker 3: Plus, bus kickers can kick until they're forty four forty five.

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Speaker 7: And they like kicking half of their games indoors.

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Speaker 4: By the way, he will be the highest paid kicker

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Speaker 4: in NFL history.

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Speaker 10: Yes, and if not, it'll be a multi year deal

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Speaker 10: with probably the most signing bonus ever.

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Speaker 9: Okay, I liked his career because at least his season,

857
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Speaker 9: because you saw in the beginning of the season the

858
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Speaker 9: kickers were just they were all booting it over there

859
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Speaker 9: and getting the scores in. But at the end of

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Speaker 9: the season, you saw who were the real ones, Who

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Speaker 9: were the real kickers that could sustain it at a

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Speaker 9: high level consistently, because a lot of them started off

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Speaker 9: this year booming it, and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 9: half the season kickers became human.

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Speaker 10: Would you given the Super Bowl MVP to the kicker

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Speaker 10: no four field goals?

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Speaker 6: No? No, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So here are the numbers on an Aubrey contract extension.

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Speaker 3: The highest paid kicker in the NFL right now is

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Speaker 3: Harrison Butker four years, twenty five point six million dollars

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Speaker 3: a year at six point four million average seventeen point

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Speaker 3: seventy five guaranteed, so.

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Speaker 10: It's north of that. Need to give him twenty million guaranteed.

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Speaker 6: Wow, I can't care.

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Speaker 3: Six meal just to seven the average. Wow, now you're

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Speaker 3: talking guarantee there, but the average at seven years, So

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Speaker 3: four years twenty eight million would be seven million a year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, lock this up so we don't have to listen

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Speaker 5: to mixed and down in training camp talking about the

880
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Speaker 5: wind and missing kicks and all of that.

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Speaker 6: Man, I was out there with the kicker.

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Speaker 7: Yeah we quit watching.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we cannot. We cannot watch another year.

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Speaker 7: We used to sit there and walk the martin.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, right, okay, and this last.

886
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Speaker 10: Last summer we didn't even go out and watch it

887
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Speaker 10: because he made every one of them.

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Speaker 4: So that's an easy deal to do.

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Speaker 10: Right, But you got to create the salary cap space first.

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Speaker 10: You know, I keep reading, well, the Cowboys don't sign

891
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 10: guys or they got these things to do, Well, you

892
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 10: can't do them until.

893
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 7: You have salary cap money.

894
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 10: I don't care if Jerry said we're all in, uh,

895
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 10: we're gonna break the budget.

896
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 7: There's still a budget.

897
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 10: And let me explain to you that they will, they

898
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 10: will start this salary cap with twenty four million dead

899
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 10: money for three guys Zach Martin, Trayvon Diggs and Mozzley

900
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 10: Smith are costing them twenty four million against the cap

901
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 10: right off the start, before you get to all the

902
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 10: little bits and pieces that you gave guys signing bonus

903
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 10: that never made the team.

904
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 5: It almost kills me when I hear that right there.

905
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 5: And then you see teams like the Denver Broncos that

906
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 5: you know, pay a guy to leave and they did

907
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 5: with the dead money on their cap, and that's still successful.

908
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: How do they maneuver.

909
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 7: Because they have that rookie quarterback?

910
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you get you get to do that,

911
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 5: and you but but again you're you're still burning money.

912
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 5: That's dead money as you're talking about twenty four million dollars.

913
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 5: So either either way, I think for me, as we

914
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 5: were talking about the Kickers and getting him signed, I'm

915
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 5: so much more interested in what's going on with George Pickings.

916
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 5: I know, we gotta get Aubrey, we gotta get him signed.

917
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 5: That's number we have to do that. But man, this

918
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 5: whole George Pickens deal, we cannot let this just continue to.

919
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: Kick the can down the road.

920
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 6: We're not doing that and not.

921
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's just what my hon Well, you.

922
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 10: Will kick the can down the road with his contract.

923
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 10: It'll be five years for an enormous amount of money,

924
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 10: and the majority of it will be in the last

925
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 10: two years in base salary.

926
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 5: So specifically, we know the franchise tag is coming eight million,

927
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 5: it's gonna it's gonna happen. So the quicker we could

928
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 5: get there, the better for meet Psychologically. I think the

929
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 5: fan base is just screened this in.

930
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 7: But does he I think he does at what costs?

931
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 2: Are you talking about the franchise tag?

932
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 10: No, I'm talking about a long term deal. He will

933
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 10: get the franchise tag, but you want a long term deal,

934
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 10: so that twenty eight million is not what his first

935
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 10: year costs. Against the course, of course, and it's advantageous

936
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 10: to the Cowboys to do a long term deal. But

937
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 10: to get a long term deal, he wants to check

938
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 10: the market out. Now what somebody else can offer.

939
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 7: One hundred million dollars?

940
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: Would you would you? Would you go to?

941
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 5: I mean, you just think about where he came from

942
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh, and I don't want to throw any other

943
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 5: quarterbacks under the bus, but go to an organization that

944
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 5: doesn't have a quarterback.

945
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 10: You would hope he understands that he just played with

946
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 10: the best quarterbacks he ever has in the NFL and

947
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 10: the best co wide rest he's ever had in the NFL.

948
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 10: And I don't know if that kicks in and says,

949
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 10: maybe this had something to do with what I did,

950
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 10: and maybe I'm pretty well off here. Is it five

951
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 10: million more that I need? Or can I take five

952
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 10: million less to sign and stay here?

953
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 9: So we always in the streets in the hood, we

954
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 9: talk about, Okay, you got this quarterback here making all

955
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 9: this money, why don't we just take some of that

956
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 9: money from his salary.

957
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 10: Well, they will when they reconstruct his contract. But then

958
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 10: as that did Zach Martin, Okay, day tomorrow he retires,

959
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 10: you got to count for that money you pushed down

960
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 10: the road.

961
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 7: So at some point you got to pay the piper.

962
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 9: So I'm saying, like, you got Dak here, Dak's got

963
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 9: you know, we're just talking about it in the casual way.

964
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 6: You know, Dak's got all this money.

965
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 9: Just go ahead and just take some of his money

966
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 9: in Let's just give it to some guys who really

967
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 9: deserve it. And you you know, Dak doesn't mind, you know,

968
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 9: going in there and throwing his money out there on

969
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 9: the table to give.

970
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 7: Up money for Francis signed him.

971
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 6: So that's what I'm saying. Yeah, is that something that is.

972
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 10: The NFLPA would not let you take less money out

973
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 10: of your country. Right, So his base salary is it's

974
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 10: like forty some million, forty five forty nine. What they'll

975
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 10: do is they'll pay them or restructure bonus, take about

976
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 10: twenty million out of his cap, out of his base

977
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 10: salary and turn it into restructure bonus.

978
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 7: And pro rated over five.

979
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, yes, so the money never goes away, right,

980
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 10: he gets it. You know the thing with Mahomes every

981
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 10: so else. See he took a pay cut. No, he

982
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 10: didn't take a pay cut. They just pushed it down

983
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 10: the road and paid twenty million up front.

984
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 5: I always look at that like quarterbacks when they signed

985
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 5: those big deals. Now they're like the board of trustees

986
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 5: for the owners. Right, anytime you want to play with

987
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 5: till mony, Yeah, we'll play with this. We're going to

988
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 5: move this doll up. Hey, put this three years back.

989
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 5: We're going to give you a lump sum right now.

990
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 5: All of those things and Dak obviously at this point

991
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 5: in time in his career, probably understands that better than

992
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 5: anybody that that window is closing those two years ago.

993
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 10: Actually, when they do the contract, they put that in

994
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 10: there that they can automatically.

995
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 6: Because it had been done. It's been don so many He's.

996
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 10: Already done it twice. This will be the third time.

997
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 10: Now CD's got to do it. And then whoever that

998
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,959
Speaker 10: is not always a quarterback, No, it's your highest base.

999
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 3: Sound breaking news from Indianapolis. Stephen Jones meeting with the

1000
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 3: media as we speak, or at least.

1001
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 4: Twenty two minutes ago. According to Joseph.

1002
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 3: Hoyt, Stephen Jones said they're leaning toward franchise, tagging Cowboys

1003
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: wide receiver George Pitt shocking. He said he expects that

1004
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 3: to be finalized in the next week.

1005
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 10: To tend to come on, Steve, let's go right, So,

1006
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 10: but they got to create the money by March eleventh,

1007
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 10: because that's.

1008
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 7: What started the new year. Yeah, just go print some more,

1009
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 7: go print.

1010
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, does anybody know where the printer is? I'd like it.

1011
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 7: Okay, guys, obviously not.

1012
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: Tell me. Please to talk about Christian Parker.

1013
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, talkt Christian Parker and I'm going to scan Twitter

1014
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 3: to see if Stephen Jones had any other breaking news

1015
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 3: as he met with.

1016
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 2: I'd love to hear what things about Christimph Parker.

1017
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 10: I thought I thought as first impressions at a press

1018
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 10: conference that he knocked it out of the park.

1019
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 7: I thought he was awfully impressive.

1020
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 10: He didn't get a question he couldn't answer without throwing

1021
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 10: bs out there. Uh. He was prepared now, he was

1022
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 10: obviously prepared for the interview face to face. He was

1023
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 10: prepared for the media interview because he anticipated I'll get

1024
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 10: garantee you what people were going to ask him, right,

1025
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 10: and it's like right. I think it took three minutes

1026
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 10: before someone asked him, well, what kind of defense are

1027
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 10: you playing? Meaning four three, three four, and he boom

1028
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 10: came right out and said, we're going to be multiple

1029
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 10: three four four, three four, two five and five down

1030
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 10: and I'm going out a boy. Don't tell the Eagles

1031
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 10: what defense.

1032
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 6: To get too much.

1033
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 10: No one knows, right, and they'll hide things in preseason games.

1034
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 10: So the fact that he came out and talked multiple uh,

1035
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 10: he talked about the need for uh, what a slot

1036
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 10: corner has to do, well, he's got to be a

1037
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 10: good cornerback to cover a wide receiver, but he's got

1038
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 10: to play the run. And then as a safety, if

1039
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 10: it's a safety, he's got to be able to play

1040
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 10: deep and he's got to play man or zone. And

1041
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 10: I loved his answer to that. It was like, well,

1042
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 10: you're gonna play man or zone. He goes, well, if

1043
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 10: I got corners that play man, we will play man.

1044
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 10: If I got guys that have better vision in zone,

1045
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 10: then we'll play zone. And so every answer he had

1046
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 10: made sense to me. Common sense, right.

1047
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 6: And that's the way you want to start.

1048
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 9: You don't want any anyone coming out here at the

1049
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 9: base of what they're talking about is convoluted.

1050
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 10: And one point, when you know, they brought up the

1051
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 10: cornerbacks that he helped develop in Denver with the Eagles,

1052
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 10: and he came right out and said, great players make

1053
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 10: great coaches.

1054
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 7: How do you argue with it?

1055
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 10: He's right, He's just sensible. I mean, somebody asking him

1056
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 10: about being thirty four years old, does that help you?

1057
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 10: And he said, I don't know. I've always been thirty

1058
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 10: four years I've always been young, right, right, That was

1059
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 10: the question it might be of the Super Bowl with

1060
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 10: Doug Williams right about a black quarterback. I said, I've

1061
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 10: always been a black quarterback, so I don't know. And

1062
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 10: they asked him being young, does that help you as

1063
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 10: a defensive coordinator.

1064
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1065
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 7: I've always been young. Yeah, So to me, I was impressed.

1066
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 6: That's like you always talked about iron sharpings iron.

1067
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 9: You know, this kid has been around excellent coaches his

1068
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 9: entire career, and not just coaches as a player himself.

1069
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 9: So you're talking about the guy that he wants players

1070
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 9: the way he played, wants smart players.

1071
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 6: You can have all the talents you want in the.

1072
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,959
Speaker 9: World, but you want a smart team that knows where

1073
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 9: you're gonna be, where you're gonna be, and where you're

1074
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 9: gonna be, and we're going to attack it accordingly. That's

1075
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 9: the kind of what I saw from Philadelphia and some

1076
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 9: of the best secondaries in the NFL this year. They

1077
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 9: anticipated what the team was gonna do, and they conquered

1078
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 9: them while they tried to do it.

1079
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you think ye. From the moment he

1080
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 5: started talking, I loved him, you know, I think that

1081
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 5: you know, he's bright. Those are all the things that

1082
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 5: I expected from him to when he got the job. Right,

1083
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 5: you know, you're not going to get this job unless

1084
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 5: you do. He has the capacity for it, you know.

1085
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 5: But then as I'm listening to him and I've and

1086
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 5: what's unfortunate about it, As we've gone through a couple

1087
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 5: of these press conferences here with defensive coordinators, and your hopes,

1088
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 5: you know, go up a little bit, and then as

1089
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 5: the season progresses, it's like, well, damn, whatever happens to

1090
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 5: to what you know? So to me, for him, Christian Parker,

1091
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, you know, you got to come in

1092
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 5: here already uncomfortable. You got to come in here already

1093
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 5: with that sense of urgency knowing that you're already behind

1094
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 5: the eight ball in this situation. Your defenses have to

1095
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 5: be successful. It's not going to be enough just for

1096
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 5: him to finish thirtieth in the league in defense. And

1097
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 5: I'm knocking on something, but I'm just saying, you got

1098
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 5: to have you got to hit the ground running with this.

1099
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 5: But and then when we look at whatever defense he plays,

1100
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 5: that has to be depth pieces.

1101
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: Added to this. You have to have talent at it.

1102
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 5: As we've talked about before, because the Cowboys right now,

1103
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 5: before free agency, before the draft, you don't have it,

1104
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 5: So what is going to be in the cupboard for

1105
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 5: Christian Parker? They asked him questions about will he get

1106
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 5: an opportunity to sign any free agencies from the team

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Speaker 5: that he's coming from. You know, obviously he couldn't answer

1108
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 5: that because that's tampering. But at the same time, somebody's

1109
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 5: gonna have to be able to deliver his message on

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Speaker 5: the field, someone that has experienced with that. And ever since,

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00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 5: for me, it's like, who is Christian Parker on third

1112
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 5: and long? I don't know that, you know, but he's

1113
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 5: saying right now, I'm more going. I feel like he's

1114
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 5: going to be in the mode of dictating too, and

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00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 5: not to the offense instead of catching. And you know,

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00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 5: it's all about disguising your coverages, disguising your defense, all

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00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 5: of those things.

1118
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: Last season we were so bad if we.

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00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 4: Tried to.

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Speaker 6: Disguis we didn't recognize all that we can't.

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Speaker 2: That's a good he can't have that again. So everything

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Speaker 2: literally everything about him.

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Speaker 5: But also the biggest thing for me is that he

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Speaker 5: walks into a fraternity of African American defensive coordinators from

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Speaker 5: the Railroads to the Romeo Cornells to the now Demico Ryans.

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00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 5: At his ad you say Smith, lovely Smith, I mean,

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00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 5: and the list goes on of the great defensive coordinators,

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Speaker 5: and now he gets to put his name amongst that.

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Speaker 5: I think that this guy, as you look at his career,

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00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 5: is going to be on the fast track to potentially

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00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 5: being a head coach in the NFL. And not to

1132
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 5: put too much weight on him, I just think that

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00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 5: when you look at his career and you look at

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00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 5: what he's done so far, that is the lane that

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00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 5: he is.

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00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 9: You can't put too much weight on it. Okay, that's

1137
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 9: he came in here uncomfortable. I'm pretty sure he's been

1138
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 9: uncomfortable his entire life. That's right, because if he's always

1139
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 9: been the youngest, you know, then that's what he's accustomed to,

1140
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 9: so that that's how he lived.

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00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 6: That's like me, I grew up against playing older kids.

1142
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 6: You just always know that you're gonna play against older kids.

1143
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 6: That's just the way it is.

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00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 10: I don't think it's a coincidence that they hired a

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00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 10: defensive coordinator who made his way in the NFL as

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00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 10: a secondary coach cornerback coach. They hired two other assistants

1147
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 10: as a secondary coach who are cornerback coaches. So they've

1148
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 10: almost tripled the attention and they.

1149
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 6: Running games.

1150
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 10: And they did the same thing at linebacker. They've got

1151
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 10: a inside linebacker coach, an outside linebacker coach, and an

1152
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 10: assistant linebacker coach, so they have doubled down on the positions.

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00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 4: Of serious need.

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00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 7: The other thing, I don't know if I told you,

1155
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 7: because I joked about it.

1156
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 10: I said, if I'm the defensive coordinator and they hired me,

1157
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,479
Speaker 10: in my contract, I wanted specified that those two first

1158
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 10: round picks are defensive players.

1159
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 7: Tongu because then ain't gonna happen.

1160
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 10: Somebody asked him, did Jerry Jones tell you that the

1161
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 10: two first round picks will be defensive players? And he's

1162
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 10: or promise you, and he said he did not. Somebody said,

1163
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 10: but do you want the first two picks as defensive players?

1164
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 7: Absolutely had.

1165
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 10: He just had all the right answers and with a

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01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 10: smile if he needed a smile.

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01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 8: You know.

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01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 10: I talked to him as he walked off and said,

1169
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 10: so when you get a job like this, do you

1170
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,479
Speaker 10: interview and say here's the coaches I would like to hire.

1171
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 7: These are the guys.

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01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 10: He goes, oh, absolutely, you got to have that all

1173
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 10: planned out, right, You got to know that there are

1174
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 10: guys out there that you know that you want to hire,

1175
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 10: and you tell him this is what I want to do.

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01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 10: Jack del Rio told me that when he he was

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01:00:54,280 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 10: the linebackers coach Baltimore and he got an interview with

1178
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 10: Jacksonville for the head coaching job. Who hires a linebacker

1179
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 10: coach for a head coaching job back in probably two

1180
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 10: thousand or so something like Billock was the head coach

1181
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 10: at Baltimore and Billock told him, you go in for

1182
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 10: this interview, and you interview like you're the head coach,

1183
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 10: you better have it all planned out. So he goes

1184
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 10: in interviews, He's got one of these PowerPoint things.

1185
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 7: He gives him this whole big spiel. Right, he got

1186
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 7: the job.

1187
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 10: He got the job. He was shocked because he didn't

1188
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 10: think he had a chance in hell, right, But he

1189
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 10: came in prepared, told him what he would do.

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01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 7: This is my system.

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01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 10: And I would imagine that's what this kid did. And

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01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 10: I called him a kid or four years old.

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01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 6: He was a kid.

1194
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 10: He's a kid, right, Yeah, So anyway, I was impressed.

1195
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 10: Now he needs players, as I wrote, he's not a magician.

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01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, good thing about it is the bar

1197
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 6: is low as hell. Yeah too much.

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01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 4: Wow, great opportunity.

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Speaker 2: You can't defense.

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01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 6: I bet you can't.

1201
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't go lower than thirty seconds scoring defense.

1202
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: So what did you think?

1203
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:16,439
Speaker 6: Quick?

1204
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 10: Oh?

1205
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I.

1206
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 3: Agree wholeheartedly with it, And I just hope he's heavily

1207
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 3: involved in deciding who they're drafting in the secondary, because

1208
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 3: he did if he was involved with Howie Roseman in

1209
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 3: Philadelphia the last couple of years. With the selection of

1210
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 3: Quinnon Mitchell in the first round a year before last

1211
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 3: and Cooper de Jean, Cowboys are in good shakes.

1212
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 6: Back into Conibecks. No one's done that. I like it,

1213
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 6: all right?

1214
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: Does it?

1215
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 7: Out of time?

1216
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 4: We're pastime.

1217
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 5: Over?

1218
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 4: Okay?

1219
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: And position?

1220
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 7: What we're gonna do next? No one knocking on our Oh.

1221
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 6: Wow, Hey, let's let's get out of here.

1222
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, what do we have next Monday? You

1223
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 3: said next Monday, we'll be wrapping up the combine. That's

1224
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 3: your that's your homework assignment.

1225
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 7: You got to watch.

1226
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 4: You have to watch the drills.

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01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 3: Okay, come come away with one or two defensive guys

1228
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 3: you want to draft in the first round because you

1229
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 3: got two picks in the first.

1230
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 4: Round, so it's not one or two, it's two defensive guys.

1231
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 6: You want to draft reading material? I need reading material

1232
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 6: so much. Just supply it.

1233
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 7: You don't mean to just send you something.

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01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 6: Yes, thank you, There you go. You got build a

1235
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 6: step up?

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01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 7: Is actually I saw one.

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01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 10: I saw one story. They were analyzing how many players

1238
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 10: probably would have first round grades before the combine, and

1239
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 10: he had.

1240
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 3: Eleven, eleven with first round grade.

1241
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 7: Normally it's around fifty thirteen.

1242
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 3: And of course they got eleven with first round grads.

1243
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 3: Cowboys pick at twelve.

1244
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 4: All right, we'll see you again next Monday at eleven.

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