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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here on a victory Monday, as

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Speaker 2: we continue to react to Steelers twenty seven, Colts twenty

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Speaker 2: joining us now to continue the conversation. He is the

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Speaker 2: voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers. You heard him on the

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Speaker 2: call of course, on the Steelers flagship with Max Stark's

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Speaker 2: and Missy Matthews. It is the king in the castle,

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Speaker 2: Rob king king Er, thank you for taking time on

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Speaker 2: a busy Monday as always, And uh, I don't know

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Speaker 2: did you see that? Be honest with us, Kinger, Okay,

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Speaker 2: did you see that one coming yesterday? I think, particularly

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Speaker 2: the way it played out from a defensive perspective, everyone's

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Speaker 2: regurgitate the stat. Matt and I talked about it in

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Speaker 2: the open. But the Colts are a team that had

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Speaker 2: just four turnovers on the year. You force six in

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Speaker 2: that game, of course, five on defense, one on special teams.

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Speaker 2: But Kinger, I think we could have all maybe seen

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Speaker 2: away for the Steelers to win. But I don't know

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Speaker 2: if we saw it going down like that. What are

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Speaker 2: kind of your initial reactions here about twenty four hours out.

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Speaker 3: Well. It's one of the reasons I love live sports,

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Speaker 3: because you don't know what's gonna happen. If you asked

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Speaker 3: me to predict, I would have said the score was

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Speaker 3: going to be in the thirties, probably for both teams,

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Speaker 3: because that's the way the Colts are trending offensively, the

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Speaker 3: way the See Thats are trending defensively. Steels had not

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Speaker 3: had a turnover since the third quarterback is Dublin, and

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Speaker 3: they completely reversed all of that and played the kind

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Speaker 3: of defense we saw them play when they had the

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Speaker 3: three game winning streak going. And so no, I didn't

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Speaker 3: see that score coming. I'm not surprised that this sear

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Speaker 3: has won the game. But they did. They won the game,

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Speaker 3: and they and they did what they needed to do,

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Speaker 3: and that's a big victory form, a big big victory form.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, certainly, when we previewed the game, we

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Speaker 4: said things like, if the Steelers win dot dot dot.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they won the turnover battle bos and the

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Speaker 4: special teams were super strong, But deep down I kind

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Speaker 4: of thought, if they win this game, Rogers metcalf Friar move.

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Speaker 4: I mean like they had a lot of success through

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Speaker 4: the air attacking those corners, and frankly, that's not really

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Speaker 4: how the game went.

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Speaker 3: No, And I actually thought, uh, you know, one thing

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Speaker 3: that didn't happen in the game for this from the

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Speaker 3: Steelers offensive perspective, and I agree with you, Matt, was

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Speaker 3: I thought they'd be able to run the ball on

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Speaker 3: the Colts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, me too, you know the Colts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's you know, statistically, their defense against the run,

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Speaker 3: if you just look at the total yardage was outstanding,

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Speaker 3: but when you look at when you look at you know,

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Speaker 3: the yards per carry, that was not quite as flattering.

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Speaker 3: And so I thought, okay, And and the reason for

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Speaker 3: that is because they get they get fake leads and

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Speaker 3: the teams have to abandon the running game. And I

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Speaker 3: didn't think that was gonna happen. I thought the Seriers

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Speaker 3: were gonna run early, they were gonna run often, and

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Speaker 3: if they're gonna win the game, that was gonna be,

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Speaker 3: you know, one of the paths to success. And didn't

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Speaker 3: turn out that way. Good to see Jalen Warren get

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Speaker 3: into the end zone for the first time running the football,

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Speaker 3: did it twice in this game. But yeah, I thought

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Speaker 3: they would. I thought they were gonna run the ball,

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Speaker 3: and that surprised me that they didn't run.

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Speaker 2: The ball, absolutely, and I think a lot surprising in

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Speaker 2: there in that contest, without a doubt. One thing though,

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Speaker 2: that guys, we continue to see that. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's surprising, but it's still it's still nice whenever we

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Speaker 2: see it transpires just how much better, how much tougher

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Speaker 2: this offense is the match up against when Darnell Washington

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Speaker 2: that that he was doing on Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, we talked about the running game

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Speaker 3: once again, you know, Cimla trying to play through the

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Speaker 3: which has become a factor because that has been one

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Speaker 3: there is that sixth offensive lineman and Darneld Washington as

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Speaker 3: like a seventh offensive lineman. Of course, we know they're

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Speaker 3: both receiving threats now, including Spencer Anderson after he head

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Speaker 3: his reception against Green Bay. But no, I like that

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Speaker 3: who's always going to get a share of targets, and

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Speaker 3: he's going to get more targets. You know. Other than that,

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Speaker 3: it's and then trying to run the football. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's an offense that's gonna see Kenneth Gainwell maybe legion

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Speaker 3: receptions this week, and maybe John O Smith next week,

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Speaker 3: and then maybe the following we gets Pat Fryarmooth's opportunity.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I love what Darnell brings to the table,

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Speaker 3: but I don't expect to see Darnell get thirteen targets

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Speaker 3: bit of a mix and match element to me with

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Speaker 3: the Steelers offense. But I do like when Darnell's out

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Speaker 3: there because he's shown he can catch the ball and

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Speaker 3: obviously we know he can maul people in the running game.

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Speaker 4: And I agree that there is a mix and match

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Speaker 4: and it's a week to week thing in a good way.

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Speaker 4: You know, you can find mismatches depending on what the

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Speaker 5: But I think at.

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Speaker 4: Least for me watching that game, I've warmed up to

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Speaker 4: adding a receiver even more. Do you are you on

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Speaker 4: leaned towards no over the last couple of weeks I had.

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Speaker 3: But you know, again, what are you gonna get? You know,

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Speaker 3: You know, I do understand what you're saying, and I

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Speaker 3: started to think about it more in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 3: you're you're hoping you don't have to do it every week,

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Speaker 3: but there are gonna be weeks in which you need

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Speaker 3: Bears needed to score they scored forty seven. They needed

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Speaker 3: and I don't think you can. You know, games in

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Speaker 3: And sometimes you need to score more and so maybe

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Speaker 3: that additional weapon, if to do nothing else, then at

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Speaker 3: least make a team think about it. But Matt, I

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Speaker 3: just I'm not sure because I don't think a number

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Speaker 3: of quote unquote number two receiver and seeing you know,

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Speaker 3: are they going to pay Wattle whatever? He's making twenty

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna happen. So, you know, could

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Speaker 3: you get like I'm a big fan of Michael Pittman,

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Speaker 3: And are they available? So I I thought there would

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Speaker 3: It's it's shown signs of doing that I thought it

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Speaker 3: thought about what it is now. I let's just say

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Speaker 3: that I'm more open to the idea of doing that

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Speaker 3: as you indicated in previous weeks.

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Speaker 2: on the drive on a victory Monday, Kinger looking over

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Speaker 2: the snap counts for the Steelers defense. Three guys played

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Speaker 2: every single snap for the defense, Ramsey Queen and Joey

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Speaker 2: Porter Junior. And then right on their heels, right off

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Speaker 2: the roster was Dugger. Seventy seven snaps ninety nine percent

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Speaker 2: To me, of all the encouraging things with the defense,

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Speaker 2: the splash, the sacks, the limitation of Jonathan Taylor, all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I guess the question is is that where

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Speaker 3: the defense's best. I mean, I think that Ramsey is

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Speaker 3: don't know you could you know that that's for somebody

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Speaker 3: And a lot of guys don't you know, is that

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Speaker 3: where you need him most? Is that where you know,

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Speaker 3: know if you'd revisit it when Deshaun Elley, you know,

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Speaker 3: playing similar positions. They're not you know, necessarily the same

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to say to the same player, but

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Speaker 3: You know, you start thinking about big nickel or other

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Speaker 3: things he could potentially do. Uh, But I mean, for

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Speaker 3: right now, you know, you have to win the game

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Speaker 3: important thing. And people, you know, the running game didn't

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Speaker 3: get going yesterday. The offense wasn't explosive yesterday, Kay, But

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Speaker 3: the offense did what it needed to do to win

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Speaker 3: the game in front of you. That's what you have

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Speaker 3: maybe in the short term the best way to win

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a real stabilizing force and maybe

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Speaker 4: with the safety situation for the first time in a

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Speaker 4: while now. Obviously on defense, Rob the stars, the leaders,

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Speaker 4: the big money guys really showed up in a tremendous way.

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Speaker 4: But I also think, and I know you're a fan

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Speaker 4: of him, the first round pick Derek Harmon is really

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Speaker 4: coming along nicely too, and is a pretty solid contributor already.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is. And I like that, especially that trio

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Speaker 3: You know they don't play a ton of snaps together.

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Speaker 3: You know, I wouldn't mind seeing him out there more.

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Speaker 3: I love that. I love what you can do with that.

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Speaker 3: You can stop the run, you can push the pocket back,

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Speaker 2: Voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers, Rob King kind enough to

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Speaker 2: join us here on a victory Monday. Make sure you're

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Speaker 2: ten am with Max Starks. King of great stuff as always.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for taking the time and we'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you soon.

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Speaker 3: Thanks guys, take care.

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Speaker 2: There he goes. The King is exiting the castle. Rob

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Speaker 2: But Rob and I got to broadcast from the Steelers

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Speaker 2: alumni dinner Saturday night.

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Speaker 6: Oh cool, Yeah, where they were.

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Speaker 2: Honoring the twentieth year anniversary of the Super Bowl forty team.

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Speaker 2: We had some cool guests, some fun conversations on Saturday nights.

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Speaker 2: Imagine that. Who would imagine Jeff Reid in the middle

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Speaker 2: of a funny story? Who saw that one coming? But

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Speaker 6: Good afternoons, Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: It's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on a victory Monday,

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Speaker 2: West ruler Matt Williamson with you here for the next

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Speaker 2: two hours as the Steelers take care of the Colts

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Speaker 2: a lot of minutia, plenty of good. I think some

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Speaker 2: there's still some things that we have to break down.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it should be a joyous week, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean the last couple were rough, and I get that,

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Speaker 4: And I know he can, you know, be a polarizing

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Speaker 5: We're still going for it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we're not this time, but like it was an

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Speaker 2: It absolutely was, and you saw it right out of

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Speaker 5: Get the beginning was a little worried.

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Speaker 2: It's easy to remember now, but there was a lot

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Speaker 5: You're just catching balls left and right and the offense

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Speaker 6: Football one point Matt.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the first quarter, the Colts had

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Speaker 2: by halftime, it was like Steelers had twelve first downs

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Speaker 6: Colts had ten.

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Speaker 2: Right, But at one point late in the first quarter,

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Speaker 6: I think the Steelers want to have a first down

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Speaker 5: I'm almost certain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then they rattled off like twelve straight before

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Speaker 4: Sorry to interrupt, but I guess the Colts and Falcons

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Speaker 5: Flip, always take the ball. I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I didn't never pay attention to that in my life.

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Speaker 4: And I wonder if Tomlin just did that to say, I.

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Speaker 5: Know you won it first, so I'm gonna take me

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And it didn't work. And we made this joke. I'd

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Speaker 2: The only game that they didn't was the one at

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Speaker 2: we're fine. You go for it on fourth down. You

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Speaker 2: don't get it, I mean, And I loved the decision

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Speaker 5: There'll be a lot of points scoring this stage of

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be a lot of points scored in this game.

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Speaker 2: This is not gonna be a twenty to seventeen game.

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Speaker 2: Do not settle for the field goal here. They didn't.

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Speaker 2: I still loved the aggressiveness and how that all played

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Speaker 2: Once again, we said this, This was one of our

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Speaker 6: On Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: We were like, Hey, if whatever Josh Jacobs had in

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Speaker 2: going into that one Jonathan Taylor fourteen carries for forty

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Speaker 5: You could have doubled it. And I've been like, sign

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot to be said about a

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Speaker 2: it ended up being a comfortable victory in all intents

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Speaker 6: How do you only win that game by seven points?

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Speaker 6: They kicked a fifty some.

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Speaker 2: Yard field goal with nine seconds left or else you

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Speaker 2: would have won by double digits and it would have felt.

439
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Speaker 6: Much more comfortable.

440
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Speaker 2: And who really cares If Roman Wilson doesn't fumble that

441
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 2: ball at the end, maybe you add another field goal,

442
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Speaker 2: you end up winning by thirteen and we're singing a

443
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Speaker 2: different story.

444
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was never worried.

445
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 2: No to me, the way to get it to me,

446
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 2: the way that that all played out was was very encouraging.

447
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Speaker 4: One thousand percent. And I know there's been a lot

448
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Speaker 4: of talk, and that's just how fans are. And I'm

449
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 4: not calling out our fans, you know, but man, you

450
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,439
Speaker 4: should should have traded Watt. Never should have given him

451
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Speaker 4: that kind of contract. High Smith, trade him. Cam looks

452
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 4: old and done. You know, Slay doesn't want to tackle anymore,

453
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 4: doesn't want to get involved. Ramsey trade wouldn't make any sense.

454
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Speaker 4: You know, all these old defensive backs retread safeties from

455
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Speaker 4: the Patriots. You know how fans are. I mean, when

456
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 4: things go bad, you're just gonna blame everybody.

457
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Speaker 5: Yep. And all those things trended the other direction.

458
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Speaker 4: You know that you're a lot of proud leaders, and

459
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Speaker 4: almost all those guys I mentioned are veterans. They're not rookies,

460
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 4: they're not young guys. But I do want to talk

461
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Speaker 4: about some of the young guys on defense, namely Benton

462
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Speaker 4: and Wilson and a couple of these other guys I

463
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Speaker 4: think are trending the right way. But I thought the leaders,

464
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 4: your big money guys, your investment dudes, were all excellent

465
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Speaker 4: in this game. And we pre recorded just to pull

466
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Speaker 4: back the curtain. But there's a show on DV tonight

467
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 4: that Rob and Pursuda and I do every day or

468
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Speaker 4: every Monday. And Rob opened it and he's the point guard.

469
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Speaker 4: He went right to Mike and he's like, what do

470
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Speaker 4: you think of this game? And Mike said the same

471
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Speaker 4: thing you did about how Cam Hayward mentioned the effort,

472
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Speaker 4: and we all kind of thought this could be a

473
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Speaker 4: turning point in the season. I mean, if effort's not great,

474
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Speaker 4: and frankly, Slay seemed like the guy that was getting

475
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Speaker 4: the most arrows in that direction, which I totally understood.

476
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Speaker 4: Rewatching the game. I'm talking about last week and Rob

477
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 4: brought it up. He's like, how about Sleigh. I mean

478
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 4: he broke or dislocated or did something really bad to

479
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Speaker 4: his hand, because even like when he was laid on

480
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Speaker 4: the ground and they're coming to look at it, he's

481
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Speaker 4: like pulling away and like he was a lot of pain. Yes,

482
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Speaker 4: goes to the locker room, like I guess he's done.

483
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Speaker 4: Oh well, you know, it's just just gonna be the

484
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Speaker 4: turn of the guard for a new corner. Blah blah

485
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 4: blah comes back and plays right through it. You know,

486
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Speaker 4: Like there's a lot of leadership in that building, you

487
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Speaker 4: know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: There absolutely is there there.

489
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Speaker 2: There is a lot, particularly on that defensive side of

490
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: the football too. And maybe it took a week later

491
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 2: to surface than we expected, sure, but I kept thinking

492
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Speaker 2: of that too, that Merrill Hodge line of never under

493
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Speaker 2: activate a professional that's been.

494
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Speaker 5: Embarrassed, yep, and that defense has been embarrassed.

495
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Speaker 6: Two weeks in a row.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh and and they knew too a lot

497
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Speaker 2: of the one of the things that I always laugh

498
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Speaker 2: at and and Motes and I would would argue, I

499
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Speaker 2: say argue in air quotes, which joke about this all

500
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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 6: Those guys love to talk about shutting out the noise.

502
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Speaker 2: And we don't pay attention to what anybody says, and

503
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Speaker 2: we're singularly focused in all this.

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Speaker 4: I always wonder they are full of it. Okay, okay,

505
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Speaker 4: Mozoy says that too.

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Speaker 2: No Motes says it's a fifty ft He said. Some

507
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Speaker 2: guys are really good at shutting it out. Other guys

508
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: can't stay off their phone and can't you know, can't

509
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Speaker 2: can't turn it off.

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Speaker 5: Back in the day, just don't get a newspaper in

511
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Speaker 5: the listen to.

512
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Speaker 2: The radio, don't read the newspaper. I think I've told

513
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Speaker 2: you this story before. But the three years that I

514
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: worked in Philadelphia for the Eagles, I produced the afternoon

515
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: show there, and one of the hosts on there was

516
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Speaker 2: I Greece, who was a linebacker for the Eagles during

517
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Speaker 2: the Donovan McNab years, and then he played I think

518
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Speaker 2: two years for the Falcons at the end of his

519
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Speaker 2: career and He used to always joke when we would

520
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Speaker 2: draft young players on defense, they would always send me

521
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Speaker 2: to be like the guy that would pick him up

522
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Speaker 2: at the airport and mental the Eagles would always kind

523
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Speaker 2: of send me to be like the welcome to the town,

524
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Speaker 2: welcome to the franchise.

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Speaker 5: And he's like, is an honor, that's not like.

526
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Speaker 2: This is like late nineties, early two thousands, and he's like,

527
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Speaker 2: I would the first thing I would tell these guys

528
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Speaker 2: all the time is don't read the newspapers and don't

529
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Speaker 2: listen to w i P, which is a big sports

530
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Speaker 2: talk station in Philly.

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Speaker 6: He's like, now, how it's so much? What am I

532
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 6: going to tell him? Don't have a cel phone? Social media,

533
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Speaker 6: you know, YouTube and all this different stuff.

534
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Speaker 2: Those guys knew how much they had been maligned, whether

535
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 2: it's the media, whether it's the fan base, anywhere and

536
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: everywhere in between.

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Speaker 6: Over the last two games, they paid defense, defense. This

538
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 6: is what you're getting, I I think, coach.

539
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Speaker 2: I think I think there was a clear needed response

540
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: there and and those guys delivered, and like you mentioned,

541
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Speaker 2: I'm got it. So happy we got it, and most

542
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Speaker 2: of it, most of it came from those leaders to

543
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: Cam was outstanding. TJ was outstanding, Ramsey was outstanding, leading from.

544
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Speaker 5: The front, slaze injury.

545
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Speaker 4: High Smith heard his ankle early on and came back

546
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Speaker 4: and played a phenomenal game.

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Speaker 5: You know.

548
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's a great point as well, leading from the front,

549
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: getting it from every everywhere, Uh, TJ, Cam, Ramsey, high Smith.

550
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Speaker 2: Certainly those guys are well compensated for what they do.

551
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson was outstanding once again. Ke Benton played well.

552
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: Derek Harmon played well. I mean it was it was

553
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 2: all hands in the pile, all hands on deck.

554
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,719
Speaker 4: Way fewer poems in the air. Communication problems and we'll

555
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 4: get into it later in the show. But and I'm

556
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Speaker 4: gonna watch the All twenty two when I get home tonight.

557
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 4: But definitely some defensive wrinkles that were intriguing.

558
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how about Douger as well. I mean we're

559
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: twelve minutes into the show here, maybe we buried the lead.

560
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Speaker 5: Yeah, step right in.

561
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Speaker 2: He other than other than Ramsey, Corden and Porter, he

562
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: played the most snaps on that defense. Yes, after just

563
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: getting here a few days ago with him and Ramsey,

564
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Speaker 2: were you know, you talk about that communication stuff you

565
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: mentioned Alec Pierce and.

566
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Speaker 5: They might be set at safety. Now, well, who knows.

567
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Speaker 6: Those wide receivers made some plays.

568
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Speaker 5: They're a really good group.

569
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Speaker 6: Are a really good group.

570
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but some of that too was kind of garbage time,

571
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: empty calories, lake drives, where you're letting them right, order

572
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: a McDonald's at three am in the morning, after you've

573
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Speaker 2: after you've been out at the at the bar all night,

574
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Speaker 2: empty calories.

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Speaker 5: They early. I was worried.

576
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Speaker 6: It did make some plays in the first.

577
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Speaker 2: I mean again, towards the end of the first court

578
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: of the Colts had ten first downs and the Steelers

579
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: had none.

580
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 6: They were clearly making play.

581
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: It started good, but thirty thousand foot view on the whole,

582
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Speaker 2: I think they did a really good job of staying

583
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: on the same page and limiting I mean, this was

584
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Speaker 2: the best offense in the NFL going into going into

585
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: yesterday's game.

586
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Speaker 4: One thousand percent. That's the thing that I couldn't get around.

587
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 4: Was okay, and we go leading up to the game,

588
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 4: I noticed a proud defense. Are showing a lot of

589
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 4: warts right now, but maybe they do play better against

590
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 4: the Colts. But the bar has to be even higher

591
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: because this offense is phenomenal and I'm sure if we

592
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 4: were doing Colts Nation Radio would be like, it was

593
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 4: kind of a down day. You know, we didn't play

594
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Speaker 4: our best, right, it was Jones's worst day as a

595
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: cult for sure.

596
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Speaker 6: And again, but that speaks to that happens to everybody

597
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 6: in the NFL. Oh yeah, yeah, I don't care how jr.

598
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: You're gonna have a bad game where you're gonna have

599
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 2: to take it on the chin like the Colts did.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't care how bad you are. You're

601
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: gonna have a good game and knock somebody out. You're

602
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: gonna be the Carolina Panthers and you're gonna go and

603
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: the Packers.

604
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 4: That's league, right, I mean, Vikings met the Lions with McCarthy.

605
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 4: I mean, like, that's this league. But even like the

606
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: Patriot game, they had five takeaways. Some of them were

607
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 4: just dumb things the Patriots did. Like in this case,

608
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: other than the muffed punt situation, you earned your takeaways,

609
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 4: you took the ball away.

610
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 5: Oh, they weren't giveaways, you know what I mean?

611
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 6: Exactly right, exactly right.

612
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Speaker 2: And so while I know on the surface, a lot

613
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Speaker 2: of people thinking should have blown that team out, could

614
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: have blown that team out.

615
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't see it that way.

616
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Speaker 2: I don't see it. I don't see it that way either.

617
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 2: They after that first quarter, they were in the driver's

618
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: seat the entire time.

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Speaker 5: That's a playoff team all day long, if not more.

620
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Speaker 6: They had the best record in the NFL.

621
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Speaker 2: Yeah, are they still now tied for the best record

622
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Speaker 2: in the NFL?

623
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Speaker 6: I think or maybe one.

624
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Speaker 4: I think it's them and the Packers going to have

625
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: two losses because they both lost.

626
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, and the Packers lost as well too,

627
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: I mean maybe. I mean, I know, like Buffalo six

628
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: and two, they're you know, like right on their their

629
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: their tail type thing. But yeah, all in all, again,

630
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: even in wins, there's some things that you would have

631
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: liked to have cleaned up and see it seemed differently, but.

632
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 5: I mean, offensively, they weren't great in this game.

633
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 6: And Aaron Rodgers said that after the game.

634
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like twenty one of their twenty seven

635
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: points came off of turnovers. They've got to be better.

636
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: But you know, Aaron Rodgers said, we should have scored

637
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: in the thirties this game.

638
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 5: And and and I love that way.

639
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: And really put them away. And I love that he

640
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: sees it that way too. And that's I mean, Matt,

641
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: we are just getting into the month of November. We

642
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: are halfway through the regulars.

643
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 5: Pretty much at the halfway point.

644
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, let's let's not let's not kid ourselves too,

645
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: Like you want to see this by.

646
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 6: The end of this month. Is when you want to

647
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 6: see this team peaking, you know.

648
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: And and and I'm I'm thinking that yesterday was a

649
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: step in the right direction, you.

650
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 5: Think, a massive step, well, especially defensively.

651
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: Especially defensively. Yeah, as you continue to clean some things

652
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: up in the meantime.

653
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Speaker 5: M hm, no, I think so.

654
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Speaker 4: And I mean, we'll talk way more about it tomorrow.

655
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 4: But you've got a trade deadline coming up tomorrow to

656
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 4: might you add a piece? I could see a defensive back,

657
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 4: and I when we've talked to no end about a

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Speaker 4: receiver that even makes you a little bit better football team,

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Speaker 4: you know, I think that's possible.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss that plenty as we roll along in certainly

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Speaker 2: plenty tomorrow. A jam packed trade deadline show tomorrow for you.

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Speaker 2: But for today, we've got to continue to break down

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Speaker 2: and come through. Steelers twenty seven, Colts twenty We'll continue

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Speaker 2: to do that. On the other side with the voice

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Speaker 2: of your Pittsburgh Steelers, Rob King joins us when we

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Speaker 2: return West Ruler Matt Williamson on a victory Monday. It's

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Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network,

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Speaker 2: your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the Drive here as we roll along and

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Speaker 2: approach the end of the first hour of the show.

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Speaker 2: Here on a victory Monday, it was a crazy Sunday

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Speaker 2: across the NFL.

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Speaker 6: We'll get into yeah, as usual, some of that an

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Speaker 6: hour number two.

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Speaker 5: The very unpredictable league, it sure is.

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Speaker 2: And thanks to Rob King for joining us there in

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Speaker 2: the previous segment.

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Speaker 6: Matt.

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Speaker 2: One of the things too, you know, like we kind

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Speaker 2: of touched on it a little bit in the open,

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Speaker 2: how there's still improvement for this offense. That to me

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Speaker 2: in a performance like that can almost be I don't

685
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Speaker 2: want to say encouraging, because that's the wrong word, but

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Speaker 2: I like how.

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Speaker 5: Your little board doing the right thing.

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Speaker 6: There is my little board.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking sometimes your screen and it's always moving and

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Speaker 4: now it's not the little blue has.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, it's just I was like it's like,

692
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Speaker 2: looks confused, what's going on?

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Speaker 5: Like usually that's like buzzing along. I'm like, okay, never mind,

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Speaker 5: let me, I'll stick to my lane.

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Speaker 6: Let me zoom it, let me a little bit. I'm like,

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Speaker 6: what's he looking at over there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Going on?

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Speaker 5: I thought you like forgot to record or something that lane.

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Speaker 2: I mean that that would be that would be uh,

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Speaker 2: that would be pretty pretty typical, I guess. But like

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Speaker 2: in a game where Aaron Rodgers just barely threw over

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Speaker 2: two hundred yards, in a game where Jalen warn sixteen

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Speaker 2: carries for thirty one yards, that's.

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Speaker 5: The one I was a little disheartened with, you know, right.

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Speaker 2: To me as much as you know, people are screaming,

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't say I'm I'm probably being a little hyperbolic,

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Speaker 2: but there have been a lot of people. You know,

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Speaker 2: how do you force six turnovers and only score twenty

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Speaker 2: seven points? How do you know, win the turnover margin

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Speaker 2: like that and only win by a touchdown?

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Speaker 5: It wasn't I don't see it that way.

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Speaker 2: I don't either, because it wasn't a Mona Lisa for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers offense, but they still found a way to

715
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Speaker 2: capitalize and Yeah, they got help from the defense, right right, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Peyton Wilson interception.

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Speaker 5: That was good complimentary football, like we were talking about all.

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Speaker 2: Week, good complimentary football, and it was nice to see that.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that conversation for most of the year

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Speaker 2: has swung in the offense's favor.

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Speaker 6: Oh times a thousand, whereas it was.

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Speaker 2: It was good to see it swing back the other

723
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Speaker 2: way against an opponent where you probably needed it to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was quite happy. And I know the turnovers

725
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Speaker 4: are so important in this in this instance, but you

726
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Speaker 4: beat a playoff team that is one of the better

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Speaker 4: teams in the league. I definitely believe that without your

728
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Speaker 4: offense's a game. You know, it wasn't there a game.

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Speaker 2: They've got MVP candidates, Offensive Player of the Year candid,

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Speaker 2: it's coach of the Year candidates.

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Speaker 5: And it's not a bad cold defense either.

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Speaker 2: It is not, No, certainly not. And you were also

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Speaker 2: down a touchdown after fifteen minutes of play, and then

734
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Speaker 2: that defense just came alive when you when you absolutely

735
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Speaker 2: needed it too. But for me, I still want to

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Speaker 2: see more of a commitment to running the football.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was one of my complaints, and I know.

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Speaker 2: Aside from the what the box score looks like and

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Speaker 2: all that stuff, I just I want to see more.

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Speaker 6: I want to see more commitment to run in the football.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Now, And.

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Speaker 4: It's a perfect example of how progress isn't linear. You know,

743
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Speaker 4: the running game is getting better, it's getting better, it's

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Speaker 4: getting better. Okay, this is a step back. Let's just

745
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Speaker 4: realize that's how.

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Speaker 5: This thing goes.

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Speaker 4: And as you mentioned, you're not even halfway done with

748
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Speaker 4: your games at this point. If you can continue to

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Speaker 4: get better over the chunks of three four games as

750
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Speaker 4: opposed to every game getting better, that's it's not how

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Speaker 4: it works. Fine, but this goes back to the second

752
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Speaker 4: half of the Green Bay game. Three K carries for

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Speaker 4: Jalen Warren. I don't love that now, but I don't know.

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Speaker 4: And hey, I think anyone that listens to us probably realizes.

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Speaker 4: I am an Aaron Rodgers believer, but he has a

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Speaker 4: lot of freedom at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure I know where you're going.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure play calls come in with ron or pass

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Speaker 4: options or there. I don't know how they specifically get

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Speaker 4: things from the booth to Aaron's ears.

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Speaker 6: You got three different play calls yeah and go with

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Speaker 6: on this play.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, and he's gonna audible and he's not gonna draw

764
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Speaker 4: things up in the sand like people think. But he

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Speaker 4: certainly has a reputation over his career of checking out

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Speaker 4: the runs to throw. Like with the Jets, they were

767
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Speaker 4: like had the fewest carries in the league. Now they

768
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Speaker 4: were losing all the time, and people are like, oh,

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Speaker 4: he's just trying to pad his stats. I don't know

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Speaker 4: why he does it, but it's pretty much worked for

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Speaker 4: eighteen years or since the guy was going to go

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Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame, right, And I don't know if

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Speaker 4: it's stat padding or if he's just looking at the

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Speaker 4: best option and goes there. So I just I guess

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Speaker 4: my point is, don't just blame Arthur Smith entirely.

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Speaker 5: Oh they're not running the ball.

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Speaker 4: Enough, because I think his track record's pretty strong that

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Speaker 4: he's going to put the ball in the running backs belly.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean, And I.

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Speaker 2: Know why you are absolutely correct, And I certainly think

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Speaker 2: over the last two games where it's felt like like

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Speaker 2: before that Green Bay game, it felt like the like

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Speaker 2: the Steelers run game was really on an upward trajectory.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, and and big picture, I still believe it

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Speaker 4: is completely agreed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do think that it's it's pretty clear

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Speaker 2: that there's some of those situations where it's an either

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Speaker 2: or that Aaron Rodgers is allowed to decide, as he's

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Speaker 2: earned every right to do.

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Speaker 5: And I bet he's calling plays as much as Arthur Smith.

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Speaker 2: And and yeah, you know what, it's a maybe point,

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00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: it's a good point. Or again where it's just a hey,

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00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: here's two or three options when I get to the

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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, which one do you like best? I understand,

795
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Speaker 2: I underst stand why too. And he's earned the right

796
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: to do what he wants to do and to keep

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00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: the ball in his hands, and especially now that it

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Speaker 2: feels like he's got the healthiest complement of weapons and

799
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Speaker 2: pass catchers that he's had, you know, this season, count

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Speaker 2: in Austin fully back in the fold and everything they've

801
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Speaker 2: been able to do with Darnell Washington and what we've

802
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Speaker 2: seen from Pat Fryarmouth. Yeah, the last the last absolutely, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I mean they once again go play action on the

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Speaker 2: first play. That was another one of those bad things

805
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Speaker 2: early on where I thought, oh man, you got a

806
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: chance to hit a twenty thirty yard game to John

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Speaker 2: u on the on the first play of the game,

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't a perfect throw but should have probably

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Speaker 2: still been caught.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I I I.

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Speaker 4: And you knew that they were practice. I mean that

812
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: was playing four days ago, totally.

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Speaker 2: It was playing just like the just like the Darnell

814
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: washing was a few a few weeks prior. I still though,

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Speaker 2: I think this offensive line has shown improvement in not

816
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: only pass protection but in the run game. And I

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00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: think other and Aaron Rodgers, you could argue Jalen Warren

818
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Speaker 2: as good as anybody else on that offense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, including Metcalf.

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Speaker 2: Became Metcalf would be in the conversation, absolutely, but that's

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 5: Warren's a heck of football player.

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Speaker 2: He is a fantastic football player, and I think so

824
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Speaker 2: much of it is just when you can get him

825
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: going early, it really opens up everything else for the

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Speaker 2: for the rest of the.

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Speaker 5: Offense thousand percent.

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Speaker 4: I mean, analytics folks will will laugh at establishing the

829
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Speaker 4: run and all the old school things like that.

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Speaker 6: But the more things change, the more they stay the.

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Speaker 4: Same, right, I mean, it's certainly a nice thing to

832
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 4: lean back on when you are moving bodies, and Warren's

833
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: getting a lot of yardage, and you can run the

834
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Speaker 4: football early and it's always there in your back pocket

835
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Speaker 4: one thousand percent. And that was missing yesterday and I've

836
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 4: been missing, I guess for six quarters now. I don't

837
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Speaker 4: think it's shot that they've gone back to not being

838
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Speaker 4: a good running team. I don't believe that at all now.

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Speaker 4: One thing I wanted to mention, this is a huge

840
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: knock on Wood thing, and maybe it even comes up

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Speaker 4: this week. Watching the Sunday Nighter last night, one of

842
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 4: the announcers said, there's only two or three teams that

843
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: have started the same five offensive linemen for every game.

844
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Speaker 4: Oh don't go here, Williamson stealers are one of them,

845
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: and that's in jeopardy again with Siamalo. Yeah, and hopefully

846
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 4: that's why I'm knocking on wood, you know, left and right.

847
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 4: You don't have change up front, you know, because that

848
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 4: could derail a good young group that's all progressing together.

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Speaker 4: I think the tackles are playing pretty well, especially Falton.

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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad you said that too.

852
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 2: And we're you know now almost an hour into the show,

853
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: and we should have referenced Troy Fultanu at some point

854
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: I thought he was fantastic. Yeah, Roger Jones has been

855
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: much better, much better. But I think Chroy Faltanu has

856
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 2: really listened.

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Speaker 3: Matt.

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Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be a start.

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Speaker 6: You and I.

860
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: I I was thinking about this in the midst of

861
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Speaker 2: the game as Faltonu was playing outstanding and Darnell Washington

862
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: was like the focal point of the offense. Like you

863
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: and I did some predictions and we'll revisit all this

864
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: stuff at the end of the year. We don't need

865
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Speaker 2: to go too deep into it now. You and I did.

866
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Speaker 2: We had a show or like an hour you know,

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Speaker 2: after training camp before the season started, when we've got

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Speaker 2: some time to kill there where we did predictions for

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Speaker 2: this Steelers season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: One of our predictions was Darnell Washington fifty or more

873
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: targets on the season. We're trending in the right direction

874
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Speaker 2: in that regard.

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Speaker 5: Yes, helped.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday certainly helped. He had six targets yesterday, four receptions.

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Speaker 2: The other was by the end of the year, everyone's

878
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: calling Zach Frasier and Troy Faltanu stars.

879
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 3: Man.

880
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 6: I think it's feel pretty good abo that I'm feeling pretty.

881
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: Good about that. And I thought, to be fair too,

882
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: Fualtanu really stood out. And it's easier to do that.

883
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: As a tackle. You either stand out in a good

884
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: way or stand out in a bad way. It's almost

885
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: like a defensive back, right, It's like there's very there's

886
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: very rare, like that guy had a B game. You know,

887
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: he was fine. He wasn't great, he wasn't terrible. He

888
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: had a B a three point zero GPA. It tackle

889
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: in at corner it's like you're eive a valedictorian or

890
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: you were a bum. There's typically not much of a

891
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: position nature of the position. And so while Filtanu stood

892
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: out in that regard, I thought McCormick and Fraser played

893
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: very well, very well too, And that is Jones And yeah,

894
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: that's encouraging and you would hate to lose, Sayamalu, I think,

895
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: particularly for what it means for some of the other

896
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: stuff that you can do, the corned beef package, all

897
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 2: those things. But you also, I think would feel pretty

898
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: confident about Anderson sliding in there the way that the

899
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: other four are currently performing.

900
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they'd be okay with Anderson. For Ciamalu

901
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: one for one. Now the jumbo you know, Cornborn stuff

902
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 4: to be worked out. We touched on it a little

903
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 4: bit last week of what some options would be, but

904
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 4: they I did just want to mention that they've been

905
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 4: very fortunate with health, which great because they need to

906
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 4: be because I'm glad they're young and they're all growing together.

907
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: They have they have and you know, they've missed some

908
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: keep overall. I think that that's been something that you

909
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 2: can't complain too much about. They've miss some key guys.

910
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: You're gonna miss to Sean Elliott. You know, he missed

911
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: some time at the beginning of the year. He's missing

912
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: time now, Alex high Smith, all those things, but you

913
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 2: haven't had other defense.

914
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 5: All other injuries have been defensive orient.

915
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: Correct which is not great, no, but you feel like

916
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: you've got a lot of depth there, and you've got

917
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: a lot of stars there, and you've got a lot

918
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: of leadership there. You've got the flexibility to overcome what

919
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: we just saw with Jalen Ramsey and Duggar and what

920
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: they had to do and kind of some some patchwork

921
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 2: throwing a safety tandem together here this week to get

922
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 2: ready for the Colts.

923
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 4: And I also commended the Steelers and Omar in the

924
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 4: front office the off season because I think a big

925
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 4: priority of the off season was building defensive depth total

926
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 4: because you know, you're older, you know, like, I know,

927
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 4: the most expensive defense in the league. But it's not

928
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: all because the stars too. I mean, you're paying like

929
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 4: a Harrison, you know. Some of your depth guys are veterans,

930
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, because yeah, and that's why, like

931
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter points allow so bothers something. It's like,

932
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 4: but you built the depth, you know, like, let's use it.

933
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 4: And I think we did yesterday and we saw yesterday.

934
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: I think they did. And again it's not gonna be

935
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 2: every single week here here they go. But that's one

936
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: of those those guys deserve a lot of credit. And

937
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: I know I said this to you earlier in the season,

938
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: but I always laugh. It's like when the Steelers defense

939
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: is performing like they did against the Bengals or the

940
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: Packers second half against the Packers, there's a lot of

941
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: highest paid defense in the league one dollars or whatever

942
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: it is, but then when they go out there and

943
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: get six turnovers, everyone not Everyone's not like, ah, that's

944
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: what you get what you pay for.

945
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 4: Right, I mean they never should have signed what Cam's

946
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 4: over the hill high Smith trade him.

947
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 5: Cam Hayward was a force phenomenal.

948
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: He was a force, so many deflected passes, so much

949
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: chaos caused great in the run game.

950
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 6: I think Quentin Nelson wants that guy to retire big time.

951
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean he's tired.

952
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 4: They might be equal players, but one wins the individual

953
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 4: matchups every time.

954
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: And sports are weird like that, just sometimes so certain

955
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: guys have certain guys numbers and styles make fights, and

956
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: maybe there's one part of your game where you don't excel,

957
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: and that's a part of my game where I could

958
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: take advantage. But I mean, I tell you what if

959
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: Cam Hayward played the Colts every single week, Aaron Donald

960
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 2: type type numbers, if he was playing Indianapolis every single week,

961
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: which is saying something because that's a really good Colts

962
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: offensive line, and that's a Quentin Nelson who is in

963
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: all likelihood gonna be wearing a gold jacket one day

964
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: as well.

965
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 4: I think the bottom line is Cam is still phenomenal

966
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: and showed it again.

967
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 6: He sure did, as did T. J.

968
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: Watt, as did Alex high Smith, as did a ton

969
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: of guys on that defense that I think we did

970
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: a pretty good job of giving them some flowers, giving

971
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: them some roses here in the first hour, that is

972
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: an hour in the books more on this game. An

973
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 2: hour number two will also go around the league and

974
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,479
Speaker 2: and tap into a wild Sunday across the NFL. Maybe

975
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: get to some of your tweets well before we get

976
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: up out of here. Halfway home on the drive West Schuler,

977
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 2: Matt Williams and it's the Steelers Audio Network.