WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Break Camp

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready for a break? Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 4>Ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 6>It is Tuesday, August twentieth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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<v Speaker 6>episode number eighteen. Welcome to the latest edition of The

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<v Speaker 6>Break lifem Oxnard, California. It is our final show here

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<v Speaker 6>in the sunny confines of Oxnard, California, before we head

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<v Speaker 6>back to the heat box.

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<v Speaker 4>They call Frisco, Texas.

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<v Speaker 6>Big Big of one hundred and six to day or

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<v Speaker 6>something like that. It is a beautiful sixty one right

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<v Speaker 6>now in California, so we'll miss that part of it.

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<v Speaker 6>But other than that, I'm very ready to help got

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<v Speaker 6>and head back to Frisco, get back to the family,

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<v Speaker 6>and do some some some regular stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Get into this regular season. That's really the big deal.

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<v Speaker 6>Today we're gonna be talking about the Cowboys second preseason game.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll have some names.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna throw out to you guys, some positions I'm

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<v Speaker 6>gonna throw out to you guys, get your opinions on

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<v Speaker 6>where you think things sit after that second preseason game.

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<v Speaker 6>I think, obviously where we start, and it's where we

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<v Speaker 6>started last week.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think really.

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<v Speaker 6>Evaluating Trey Lance at his performance, tell me what you

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<v Speaker 6>think of where he was this week and what you

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<v Speaker 6>saw from him, and also then give me a comparison

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<v Speaker 6>to what you saw from him in week one and

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<v Speaker 6>how much that has changed.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the thing with Trey Lance is you were,

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<v Speaker 7>just as you mentioned Derek, looking for improvement. You just

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<v Speaker 7>wanted to see, were there problems against the Rams in

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<v Speaker 7>the red zone?

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<v Speaker 3>How accurate was he? Was there a decision making involved

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<v Speaker 3>in what he was able to do.

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<v Speaker 7>I kind of feel like, guys, they tailored the game

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<v Speaker 7>play and to his strengths a little bit more in

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<v Speaker 7>this game. I felt like in week one it was

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<v Speaker 7>let's see Trey Lance pocket passer throwing the ball forty times.

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<v Speaker 7>The game against the Charge against the Raiders, it seemed

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<v Speaker 7>like more there was more of.

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<v Speaker 3>The RPO stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>There were things that they were kind of plays a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit like I say, to his strength. So I

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<v Speaker 7>was happy to what I saw with him. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>when he faced the Blitz, if you check into the

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<v Speaker 7>metrics and how that looked, seven of eight against the

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<v Speaker 7>Blitz were the week before against pressure. There was a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit of some problems there and he probably didn't

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<v Speaker 7>handle that particularly well. But I felt like that the

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<v Speaker 7>plays that he was involved with, there were some really

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<v Speaker 7>good ones where you're like, Okay, you see athletic ability,

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<v Speaker 7>you see the talent, you see the ability to get

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<v Speaker 7>the ball out, you see the mobility and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's going to be some issues with accuracy.

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<v Speaker 7>That's kind of his game right now. But I thought

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<v Speaker 7>he looked more comfortable, he looked more confident, and the

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<v Speaker 7>team moved the ball that way offensively because of how

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<v Speaker 7>he played.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot more confident, a lot more composed.

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<v Speaker 5>The first half, the time of possession battle was really wonky,

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<v Speaker 5>so I don't really feel like he got a he

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<v Speaker 5>got going in full stride until deep into that second half.

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<v Speaker 2>But whenever he did get going deep into that second half, we.

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<v Speaker 5>Saw that confidence and it was throws across the middle

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<v Speaker 5>and it was throws outside the numbers. And that was

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<v Speaker 5>the biggest criticism I took away from the game against

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<v Speaker 5>the Rams is that he couldn't push anything to the outside,

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<v Speaker 5>and when he did he was leading receivers wrong. He

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<v Speaker 5>was leading them away from the sticks, but he was

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<v Speaker 5>putting balls in really good places. On Saturday against the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 5>Really liked the way he used his feet. We saw

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<v Speaker 5>the athleticism being used a little bit more, We saw

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<v Speaker 5>the Reid option being used a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 6>So.

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<v Speaker 5>McCarthy was even helping him out in that area in

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<v Speaker 5>some instances. His footwork is still really bad and I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's definitely gonna have to take a step forward

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<v Speaker 5>in that department. But if we are comparing from game

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<v Speaker 5>one to game two, significant improvement, and if he can

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<v Speaker 5>take as big of a step going into game three,

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<v Speaker 5>then you could start to see the vision on Trey

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<v Speaker 5>Lance going into the future.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know I mentioned it on the Camp and

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<v Speaker 2>Out podcast, but they have a.

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<v Speaker 5>Few different They have a few different options when it

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<v Speaker 5>comes to Lance. It's, you know, make him QB two

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<v Speaker 5>this year. I don't feel like that would be the

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<v Speaker 5>right decision. Make him QB two next year, which I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like could be the right decision, or use him

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<v Speaker 5>as some sort of value right now I mean you

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<v Speaker 5>look at some teams, you look at the Raiders. I

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<v Speaker 5>think Trey Lance is better than both of those guys

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<v Speaker 5>coming out of that game on Saturday. So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>there's gonna be some options at the front office we'll

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<v Speaker 5>toy with. But I think truly they want to develop

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<v Speaker 5>this guy and they want to have him behind Dak

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<v Speaker 5>Prescott for the future.

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<v Speaker 7>Nick can ask you a question, if Trey Lance is

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<v Speaker 7>quarterback three, do you even look into resigning him or

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<v Speaker 7>trying to extend him after this?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I do because you look at these two guys.

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<v Speaker 5>You look at Cooper Rush and Trey Lance are both

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<v Speaker 5>on expiring deals. You have Cooper Rush who's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be thirty one going into twenty twenty five, and Cooper

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<v Speaker 5>Rush being or excuse me, Trey Lance being twenty five

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<v Speaker 5>going into twenty twenty five. You look at the youth

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<v Speaker 5>and the ability to be able to develop and the ceiling. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know which one has reached his ceiling already, which

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<v Speaker 5>one probably still have some ways to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you're looking at it that way.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand why you would want to bring back Trey

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<v Speaker 5>Lance and make him the QB two and give Cooper

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<v Speaker 5>Rushian opportunities elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not to say that Cooper Rush hasn't done

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<v Speaker 2>a great job in Dallas. I think he has.

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<v Speaker 5>I think at that point, it's just you kind of

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<v Speaker 5>look around the room and you say, Okay, if Dak

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<v Speaker 5>Prescott We're to go down with the injury, do I

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<v Speaker 5>want another thirty year old plus guy to be able

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<v Speaker 5>to carry the load if he has to over the

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<v Speaker 5>course of six games?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like, who's to say he goes down?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>I think when it comes to just but preparing for

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<v Speaker 5>the worst, that's what you had to do whenever you're

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<v Speaker 5>factoring in these quarterback two situations, I think Trey Lance

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<v Speaker 5>would maybe be the better bet.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe I'm strange about this, but if something happens to

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<v Speaker 7>Dak Prescott, I want Trey Lance playing, Yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 7>want Trey Lance this year, yes, Okay, And I want

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<v Speaker 7>Trey Lance playing because I want to try.

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<v Speaker 3>And figure it out that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And if it doesn't work now I know now, I

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<v Speaker 7>know that in twenty twenty five, I have to do

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<v Speaker 7>this or I have to do that in order for

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<v Speaker 7>my quarterback rooms.

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<v Speaker 6>Can I give you a caveat to that? Because I

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<v Speaker 6>agree with your thought process. I'll say this, Let's say

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<v Speaker 6>we're mid season and we're knocking on wood because we

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to lose.

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<v Speaker 3>Like no, But if you're at.

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<v Speaker 6>Mid season and let's say let's say the Cowboys are

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<v Speaker 6>seven and one, now I disagree with you. Look now

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<v Speaker 6>I think I want to stick with Cooper Rush because

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<v Speaker 6>I'm and also, how long is dak Out?

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<v Speaker 4>Is he gone for the Season's he gone just a

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<v Speaker 4>few games?

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<v Speaker 3>If he say, if he's out for the whole season.

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<v Speaker 6>If he's out for the rest of the season and

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<v Speaker 6>they're seven and one, I'm gonna ride with Cooper Rush

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<v Speaker 6>for at least three or four games.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see what happens in those three or

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<v Speaker 4>four games.

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<v Speaker 6>If they all of a sudden get on a slide

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<v Speaker 6>and they're not winning, that's when I say, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 6>would much rather if I'm already losing, I'd rather go

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<v Speaker 6>with the guy that's gonna give me an indication of

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<v Speaker 6>where he's gonna be for next year, because I'm making

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<v Speaker 6>decisions about next year. If if let's say they are

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<v Speaker 6>midway through the season and they're three and four and.

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<v Speaker 4>Or three and five, and they lose Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 6>Now I agree with you because now I'm thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>for the future, I want to see because I don't

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<v Speaker 6>think necessarily either one of those two guys is necessarily

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<v Speaker 6>gonna take me from a deficit to now getting back

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<v Speaker 6>into the playoffs. I don't I don't necessarily see that,

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<v Speaker 6>but I do want to see what I have for

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<v Speaker 6>next year. I think I have a good handle on

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<v Speaker 6>Cooper Rush. I don't know that I have a good

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<v Speaker 6>handle on on on on Trey Lance.

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<v Speaker 4>And I said that on our show the other night.

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<v Speaker 6>I said, I wonder, at this point, are you going

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<v Speaker 6>to run out of time with Trey Lance? Like you

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<v Speaker 6>see some progression, you see some things you like I was.

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<v Speaker 6>I was talking to someone the other day and I said,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, he reminds me when he's running up running

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<v Speaker 6>the ball, he reminds me of Kaepernick, like that long stride.

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<v Speaker 6>Very we saw him in that game last over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 6>There was one run where he took off around the

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<v Speaker 6>outside and I thought there was no where he was

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<v Speaker 6>gonna get the corner.

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<v Speaker 4>And he got the corner and turned the corner right,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, man, he can take up, he

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<v Speaker 4>can he can move.

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<v Speaker 6>Fast enough to actually eat up a lot of ground

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<v Speaker 6>really quickly, though, And and that excites me because in

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<v Speaker 6>today's NFL, having a mobile quarterback that can do those

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<v Speaker 6>kinds of things can really win.

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<v Speaker 4>You some ballgames. So I think there's some things you

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<v Speaker 4>really like.

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<v Speaker 6>I just don't know if they're gonna have enough time

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<v Speaker 6>to flesh all that out and make sure he can actually.

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<v Speaker 4>Play the position long term before they have to make

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<v Speaker 4>it a sea.

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<v Speaker 7>Let me ask you guys this question, then, do you

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<v Speaker 7>think the Cooper Rush is a different quarterback from what

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<v Speaker 7>you've seen in camp? Because I seen a quarterback that's

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<v Speaker 7>more willing to throw the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Down the field.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm you know, you mentioned the comebacks, the deep outs,

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<v Speaker 7>the deep shots down the field. Maybe Cooper Rush with

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<v Speaker 7>all the Trey Lance Hype has said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 7>what do I have to lose. I'm gonna be the

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<v Speaker 7>second or third here. Might as well try and push

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<v Speaker 7>the ball a little bit more. If that's the case,

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<v Speaker 7>maybe you do have a different quarterback here.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe Cooper Rush.

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<v Speaker 7>To me, it was always a very by the book,

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<v Speaker 7>by the book by the book.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 7>But if there's a willingness to have the offense run

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<v Speaker 7>down the field like you would with Dak, I would

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<v Speaker 7>be okay with Cooper Rush. I just feel like though,

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<v Speaker 7>with Trey Lance, it gives me an element that we

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<v Speaker 7>see teams winning with in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we saw in that first game whenever he pushed

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<v Speaker 5>the ball downfield of Jalen Bruks down the left sideline.

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<v Speaker 5>And we've seen Trey Lance try to push the ball

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<v Speaker 5>downfield on a couple of different occasions in games and

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<v Speaker 5>it hasn't It hasn't quite worked out. So I think

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<v Speaker 5>I think if it's a situation regardless is my personal belief.

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<v Speaker 5>If it's a situation regardless three and five or seven

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<v Speaker 5>and one and Dak Prescott were to go down, I

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<v Speaker 5>want Cooper Rush in there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's a guy who he knows the offensive

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<v Speaker 5>system really well. I think he matches, you know, he

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<v Speaker 5>matches with these receivers really well. He has experience with

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<v Speaker 5>these guys. Not to say that Trey Lance doesn't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>there's some young receivers all they know is Trey Lance,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, working with the second and third team. But

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<v Speaker 5>I would want Cooper in there right now. I just

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<v Speaker 5>it's too much inconsistency from Trey Lance. There's too much

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<v Speaker 5>hesitance in the pocket. Still, yes, he has improved from

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<v Speaker 5>week one to week sir, but I want somebody that's

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<v Speaker 5>confident in the pocket, and I think Cooper Rush is confident.

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<v Speaker 5>Can he do every thing, No, absolutely not, but I

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<v Speaker 5>think he does do enough to be able to warrant

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<v Speaker 5>really good quarterback play when when the time is needed.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll also tell you this if they're three and five.

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<v Speaker 6>Another reason why I think I probably want want Cooper

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<v Speaker 6>Rush to not be the guy is because this is

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<v Speaker 6>gonna sound weird and maybe a little bit selfish, but

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, at three and five, I don't think I'm

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<v Speaker 6>gonna go deep into the playoffs, even if I somehow

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<v Speaker 6>manage to get back in the playoffs. Give me the

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<v Speaker 6>best draft pick I can possibly get, because I may

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<v Speaker 6>be in a situation where I need a quarterback. And

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<v Speaker 6>if you're in that situation now, you want to be

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<v Speaker 6>as high as the draft as you possibly can. So

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<v Speaker 6>for me, if I'm at three and five and I

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<v Speaker 6>lose Dak, that's at that point where I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>give me the top pick.

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<v Speaker 4>I can possibly get. I'm playing for next year. At

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<v Speaker 4>that point.

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<v Speaker 6>So for me, give me the quarterback I need to

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<v Speaker 6>develop and see more of to decide is this gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be a player for me? And is this to somebody

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<v Speaker 6>I really want to invest in?

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<v Speaker 2>You think who makes that decision the way?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you this question real quick. Yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>get to that.

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<v Speaker 4>It ain't gonna be me me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they don't. Last time you listened to me was

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and five. That was a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 7>The you you the way you evaluate it right now,

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<v Speaker 7>you don't see Trey Lance is being a quarterback in

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<v Speaker 7>the future here if something, if Dak were to move on.

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<v Speaker 5>As a starting quarterback in this future, not as of

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<v Speaker 5>right now. I think it would take. I think it

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<v Speaker 5>would take after Dak Prescott's next contract and if Trey

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<v Speaker 5>Lance was still around at that point. Okay, but I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure by that point Lance is ready to move on

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<v Speaker 5>and find some greener pastors.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's you know, it's funny, it's it's it's as

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<v Speaker 7>like I say, it's an interesting thought because I've seen

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<v Speaker 7>some positivity, but I understand I understand where people are

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<v Speaker 7>with with that with Trey Lance, and you know, if

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<v Speaker 7>he's really that far away yeah, you know, and to

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<v Speaker 7>you he is that far away.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he is now.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, if we were talking about, you know, if this

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<v Speaker 5>was Raiders break, I'd be like, yeah, this guy's ready

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<v Speaker 5>to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Like him out there, Yeah, you know, but it's a starter.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a starter, let's get it going.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, but I don't see him just with the way

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<v Speaker 5>this team has. Even if they move on from Dak Prescott,

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<v Speaker 5>Let's let's say next offseason they're going to draft a

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<v Speaker 5>guy that's that's most likely going to be the case.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like they're gonna draft a gout regardless of

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<v Speaker 5>Dak moves on or not next year. So there's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be a young quarterback in that room either battling

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<v Speaker 5>with him or they're gonna have to make a decision

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<v Speaker 5>between the two when it comes to next offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm I just I don't see it.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't see in reality where Trey Lance is the

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<v Speaker 5>starter going into any season.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I'm gonna be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 6>Until Dak and the Cowboys come to a resolution on

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<v Speaker 6>that part, everything is we don't know what's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 6>because it's just like there's too many there are too

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<v Speaker 6>many factors to really know. And that's when you made

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<v Speaker 6>that question, when you ask that question about, like, what

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<v Speaker 6>do you think of a trade for the few?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, I don't know right now. You may get through

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the season and things just fall completely

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<v Speaker 4>off the rails.

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<v Speaker 6>In regards to Dak wanting to be here, like Dax

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<v Speaker 6>has a lot of control on this too, I say.

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<v Speaker 4>I choose to do something different.

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<v Speaker 6>The point is, until that deal is done, everything is

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<v Speaker 6>as a possibility in my mind, and so I approach

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<v Speaker 6>it as, Hey, let me find out as much as

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<v Speaker 6>I can possibly find out about all three quarterbacks, and

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<v Speaker 6>then we'll see next year. Cooper Rush, maybe you're starting,

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<v Speaker 6>who knows what happens. But until that's done, I think

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<v Speaker 6>that's the first piece that has to actually come down,

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<v Speaker 6>and then you can start figuring.

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<v Speaker 4>Out what happens to the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 6>All Right, we're gonna take our first break when we

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<v Speaker 6>come back. We're gonna get some standout players from this game.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to hear from you guys on that, and

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<v Speaker 6>we'll also see some players that you guys think going

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<v Speaker 6>into this final preseason game have a lot of work

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<v Speaker 6>to solidify their roster spots.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's talk about standout players.

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<v Speaker 6>I want you guys to give me some players at

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<v Speaker 6>stood out to you in this last game that he

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<v Speaker 6>thought had really great performances.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's start with these, Nick Yeah, I man, I really

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<v Speaker 5>loved what I saw from Duce Swan. Missing a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of camp with that hamstring injury really tough, especially this

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<v Speaker 5>specific camp, because that running back is in desperate need

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<v Speaker 5>of a playmaker, and I think we saw a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit of a glimpse of that in that game against

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<v Speaker 5>the Raiders. I mean that one play where he bounces

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<v Speaker 5>out to the outside, he cuts back and he makes

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<v Speaker 5>a corner. Just look foolish. You know that's a corner

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<v Speaker 5>that's playing on Sundays. You know that's that's not a

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<v Speaker 5>corner who he was maybe bouncing off tacklers in Seattle

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<v Speaker 5>last year against You know, that's a that's a legit player.

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<v Speaker 2>So he looked really good.

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<v Speaker 5>Five rushes for thirty four yards almost seven yards per pop.

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<v Speaker 5>I really love what he brought to that's that running

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<v Speaker 5>back room on Saturday. I think he I think there's

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<v Speaker 5>now a path for him to be able to stamp

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<v Speaker 5>a roster spot this upcoming Saturday. I'm not gonna say

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<v Speaker 5>he made the roster last Saturday, but I think there's

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<v Speaker 5>a pretty big path now for him to be able

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<v Speaker 5>to stamp that going forward. And then man Keemon Hall,

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<v Speaker 5>it feels like every time he steps on the field,

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<v Speaker 5>he's making sure his name is being spoken about. And

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<v Speaker 5>the seventy yard pick six was obviously huge. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>we're gonna get into you know, potential, you know bubble guys.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's starting to rise into that bubble and

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<v Speaker 5>it's starting to you know, push some names down maybe

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<v Speaker 5>further down the list that you're like, okay, like he's

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<v Speaker 5>on watch. So I really love the performance from those

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<v Speaker 5>two guys, and Justin Rodgers started off the game pretty well.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't I didn't necessarily love it, but I liked

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<v Speaker 5>what he brought to the table in the absence of

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<v Speaker 5>Massie Smith. I think there's a path for him in

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<v Speaker 5>the future to be able to get some reps this season.

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<v Speaker 5>So those are the three guys that really stood out,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, as far as guys that maybe didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm sure we'll get into that.

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<v Speaker 5>But the receiver position, man, it feels like there's a

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<v Speaker 5>different guy every game.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, and I think, you know, when you start

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<v Speaker 7>to talk about the receiving position, I felt like that

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<v Speaker 7>when you looked at Jalen Cropper, I felt like that

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<v Speaker 7>he was going into this game, was ahead of the

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<v Speaker 7>other receivers. I kind of feel like the group is

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<v Speaker 7>now swished or shrunk, if you want to say, he

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<v Speaker 7>could have gone out there and taken this job, and

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<v Speaker 7>I don't feel like that he did that.

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<v Speaker 3>And so now you've got some others.

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<v Speaker 7>They've tried the Racy mcmaths and others. They they might

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<v Speaker 7>have two catches, they might have four catches. And then

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<v Speaker 7>you watch the special Teams tape and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 7>Racy McMath is playing right flyer and they run him

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<v Speaker 7>down there and then he gets blocked inside and now

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<v Speaker 7>the ball's going up the sidelines for a big play.

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<v Speaker 7>They're trying to figure this thing out. You mentioned with

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<v Speaker 7>I mentioned with Cropper the fumble you know on the return.

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<v Speaker 7>They're trying to play these guys in special teams roles

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<v Speaker 7>to see.

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<v Speaker 3>If they're going to work out, and unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 7>I think Cropper has brought this thing back to where

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<v Speaker 7>this game against the Chargers, if you're depending on if

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<v Speaker 7>you keep five or six receivers, this thing's really an

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<v Speaker 7>open competition. There's gonna be some decisions they're going to

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<v Speaker 7>have to be made there. My guys that I liked,

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<v Speaker 7>I will say this, I've got as I've seen from

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<v Speaker 7>camp and some of the work I've got. John Stevens

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<v Speaker 7>is my second tight end here behind Ferguson. But I'll

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<v Speaker 7>say this, and I'll say it from this way. Ferguson

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<v Speaker 7>and Schoonmaker better blocking in this game, much better.

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<v Speaker 3>When they've had in the past than they've had in

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<v Speaker 3>the past.

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<v Speaker 7>You were worried some about now Stevens had a play

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<v Speaker 7>where it was the toss and it went for a

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<v Speaker 7>negative play that you know, he's just got to understand

0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:32.120
<v Speaker 7>if it's coming to your side, you got to work

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<v Speaker 7>your hips around. You got to pin that guy to

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<v Speaker 7>the inside and don't get beat the way he did.

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<v Speaker 7>I think there was a little bit of indecision on

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<v Speaker 7>his part, but Other than that, some of the backside

0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.080
<v Speaker 7>blocks that he had, some of the point of attack blocks,

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<v Speaker 7>the combination blocks that Luke's Schoonmaker and say in a

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<v Speaker 7>Guidon were able to make to get to allow a

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<v Speaker 7>deuced fawn to maybe sneak up inside or bounce to

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<v Speaker 7>the outside because of some of that work. So I

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<v Speaker 7>really did like what the tight ends were able to

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<v Speaker 7>do real.

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<v Speaker 3>Quick this way.

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<v Speaker 6>On that twelve yard run that Duce had, I think

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<v Speaker 6>it was his first run. Was that on that play,

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<v Speaker 6>was that John Stevens that had his guy like five

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<v Speaker 6>yards down the field?

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<v Speaker 3>They had there was there was the.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm trying to think of that the exact player you're

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<v Speaker 7>talking about, But Stevens had a couple of blocks where

0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.400
<v Speaker 7>he was into his guy and it was and there

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<v Speaker 7>was that movement downfield. The first run of the game

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<v Speaker 7>was with scoon Maker and uh and actually Geyton they

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<v Speaker 7>were able to get their guy off the off the balls.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 6>It was the play where Duce had the run around

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<v Speaker 6>the right side, but he kind of went up into

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<v Speaker 6>the line and he kind of broke out to the

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<v Speaker 6>right and went I think it was a twelve yard run.

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<v Speaker 4>But on that play.

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<v Speaker 6>It seemed like I saw John Stevens with this guy

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<v Speaker 6>way down the field.

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<v Speaker 7>He did a he did a much better job than

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<v Speaker 7>the thing was Stevens big improvement there. Schoonmaker they had

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<v Speaker 7>a deal with they got in space where they were

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<v Speaker 7>in that play. We've seen this play a thousand times

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<v Speaker 7>with Dak where they used to bring Galted Schultz in

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<v Speaker 7>front and he would lead on the RPO.

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<v Speaker 2>And Schoonmaker, Wift and Scheamaker.

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<v Speaker 7>Got out in space and you know he's got a

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<v Speaker 7>plaster that guy and try and knock him to the sidelines.

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<v Speaker 7>He kind of got a little bit a little wonky

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<v Speaker 7>there in space, and You're like thinking, okay, man, if

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<v Speaker 7>you get that block, maybe it's a turn up and

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit more yards. But overall, I'm just looking

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<v Speaker 7>at these point of attack blockers for these tight ends,

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<v Speaker 7>and I thought, for the most part, this group wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>as poor as we've seen him before.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, if I could shut off the offensive line. You

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<v Speaker 5>look at Cooper bb Man a phenomenal game that he

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<v Speaker 5>had building on that Week one performance, you know was

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.240
<v Speaker 5>Week one perfect no, but I felt like he laid

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<v Speaker 5>some really good groundwork going into Week two. Man, I

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<v Speaker 5>think coming out of this game, we have Cooper BB

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<v Speaker 5>maybe taking the edge in that center battle. I think

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<v Speaker 5>we're gonna have that one really come down to the

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<v Speaker 5>wire coming out of Week three. But I mean, if

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<v Speaker 5>it's a situation where the coaches look at it and

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<v Speaker 5>they say, Okay, if we give Cooper BB reps early

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<v Speaker 5>in the season and maybe he's not where brock Kauffman

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<v Speaker 5>is right now, let's just say that's the thought, then

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<v Speaker 5>who's to say he won't be exceeding those expectations by

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<v Speaker 5>at the end of the year. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>where youth could probably benefit Cooper b B a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit more. But you know, I still do believe in

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 5>brock Kaufman. I still think that is a guy who's

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<v Speaker 5>capable of being a starting center. But you look at

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:16.919
<v Speaker 5>BB and what he's been bringing to the table and

0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 5>how he has continuously been getting better as the weeks

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 5>have gone on, that's big time stuff. And then you

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<v Speaker 5>look at Tyler Geiden, also a really strong game. But

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<v Speaker 5>I think the more reps that he puts out there,

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<v Speaker 5>the less I'm feeling confident about his hand place. His

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<v Speaker 5>hands are super wide, yeah, and they come around like

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<v Speaker 5>almost in the biceps of edge guys. You know, I

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<v Speaker 5>want to see him get up in the chess played

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit more. I mean, you look at guys

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:39.560
<v Speaker 5>like Miles Garrett, who he's going to see week one.

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<v Speaker 5>If he comes right into his chest play, that's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be a little bit different for him. So I

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<v Speaker 5>want to see him maybe adjust the hands a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit better because that's going to buy him at some point.

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<v Speaker 5>But overall, I mean, you see the strength, you see

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<v Speaker 5>the power, and sometimes that overwhelms a bad technique.

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<v Speaker 7>Man that I'm so glad you pointed that out, because

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<v Speaker 7>there were like four or five clips where I looked

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<v Speaker 7>at it, and I'm like, his technique right now is

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<v Speaker 7>but hands outside and then trying to reset. He's such

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.119
<v Speaker 7>a good foot athlete that if he gets a little

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:11.719
<v Speaker 7>forward he can recover. But there's a lot of times

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<v Speaker 7>you see those hands. You see those white gloves on

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 7>the outside shoulders of those black jerseys that the Raiders

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 7>were wearing the other day, and I was thinking, like, man,

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 7>he is going to They're gonna coach him up on this,

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.800
<v Speaker 7>But you're absolutely right, hands on that breastplate for control.

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<v Speaker 3>When you get hands.

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<v Speaker 7>Outside, that gives the defender the opportunity to get to

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<v Speaker 7>your body, and the really really good defenders will take

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 7>you and they'll grab you and pull you out of

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<v Speaker 7>the way there.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if you're lucky.

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 3>If you're lucky, if you're lucky.

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<v Speaker 7>The thing with Beebie, there was only one time I

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<v Speaker 7>saw on the second level, and you might remember he

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 7>went the ball went to the left, and he was

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 7>he went to an area where the defender was instead

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 7>of where he was going to be. And the second

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 7>time around they ran the play, he got it right.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's like, Okay, I made a mistake the first

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:05.880
<v Speaker 7>time I ran out there and the guy beat me across.

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:07.920
<v Speaker 7>Now I know, okay, I've got to go a little

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.120
<v Speaker 7>bit further in front cut that guy off, and then

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 7>it allowed the play to develop. But I thought, over

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:14.879
<v Speaker 7>all the young guys and shout out though two and

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 7>we don't give it much of a shout out to

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 7>a guys Matt will let's go play that whole game

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<v Speaker 7>at right tackle, and so shout out to him that

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:25.400
<v Speaker 7>was That was not an easy task, dealing with Crosby

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 7>and those guys out there. It wasn't pretty, but he

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:29.439
<v Speaker 7>managed to play the whole game he took one for

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 7>the team. He's probably gonna have to take another one

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<v Speaker 7>for the team on Saturday against the Chargers, but shout

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:37.640
<v Speaker 7>out to him for the effort he had.

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<v Speaker 5>I really do think the offensive line top to bottom

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:42.639
<v Speaker 5>played really well in that game against the Raiders. Awesome Richards.

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 5>I felt like I had an awesome day to at

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<v Speaker 5>left guard. He feels natural there. I mean, you look

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 5>at his body type.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you that they think he's a better tackle.

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't see it yet.

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 5>They also think Chumy Dooga is a better tackle, he's

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 5>a better guard. So I'm not one hundred percent sure.

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I an not buying that one up. Yeah I know.

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 5>So I like what I like what Austin Richards brings

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:03.640
<v Speaker 5>to the table in the interior. I hope they can

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 5>let him kind of develop there. But top to bottom,

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.399
<v Speaker 5>I really liked that offensive line performance, no sacks allowed,

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 5>running game was getting some lanes. I liked what I saw.

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 6>So if you guys had to name one player that

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 6>going into this final game against the Chargers needs a

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 6>great performance in order to give himself a shot to

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 6>be able to make this team, who would it be.

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<v Speaker 5>A shot? Can I give one offense, one defense on offense.

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna go with Tyron Billy Johnson. Yeah, you know,

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 5>you look at this receiver battle and that last spot.

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 5>You know, Jalen Cropper had his opportunity last week, Ryan

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 5>Flanoy had his opportunity this week. I think it's the

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 5>Tyron Billy Johnson opportunity going into the Chargers game.

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 2>It's his former team as well.

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 5>So maybe a little bit of banks there that he'll

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 5>be able to take into that one. But he's he's

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 5>played only roughly two or three series in each game

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 5>and he's only had one target and zero receptions. You know,

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:54.360
<v Speaker 5>I would have to assume that they want to get

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 5>Tyron Billy Johnson involved in a little bit more. You know,

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 5>I was able to touch some folks last week and

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<v Speaker 5>it just kind of happened as a natural game plan

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.439
<v Speaker 5>went on. You know that they were focusing in on

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 5>Tyrn Billy Johnson against the Rams, and I see similar

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.159
<v Speaker 5>situations that were rising from the Raiders. But there was

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.679
<v Speaker 5>it was a couple of instances where you know, he

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 5>was getting opened downfield, but it was outside.

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 2>The numbers and Trey Lance.

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 5>You know, he hasn't been really pushing it downfield like that,

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 5>so especially early in games, and that's when Tyron Billy

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 5>Johnson has had his opportunities on the defense side of

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 5>the ball. I think it's Eric Scott. He needs to

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 5>have a good game. You look at keem On Hall again,

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 5>I think he's pushing for a roster spot at this point.

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 5>You look at Andrew Booth obviously is going to have

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 5>a roster spot. So I think, if you're Eric Scott,

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 5>you need to have a really good game on Saturday

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 5>and I prove that you're worthy of having a fifty

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 5>three spot real quick.

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:41.439
<v Speaker 6>You just said Booth is gonna have a spot. So

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:42.679
<v Speaker 6>you think at this point both is in.

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 2>No matter what I think he is, I think he is.

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 7>I to me, it's I like what you did with

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 7>Eric Scott there. I think that maybe Eric Scott's fate

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.400
<v Speaker 7>might already be sealed. I'm gonna throw a name out

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.640
<v Speaker 7>there that people are gonna like, what are you talking about?

0:27:56.680 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 7>Broad Us Albert Huggins a defensive tackle. He was not

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 7>very good against the Rams in Los Angeles.

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>A pushover.

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 7>If you will a pushover, all you have to do

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 7>is put a put a polo, put a rams polo

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 7>on a quarterback of the other team, and he might

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 7>have a shot. But I'm gonna say I think Albert Huggins,

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 7>they're trying to kind of figure out this defensive tackle rotation.

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 7>I think they're trying to figure out the three technique

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 7>stuff too. You know, we'll see with with Phillips, he

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 7>plays a lot of three.

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 3>He might be playing more one.

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.640
<v Speaker 7>But I kind of feel like though that he showed enough,

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 7>flashed enough that you would think that maybe maybe they

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 7>would keep him around because of he does have some flexibility,

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 7>but he did show some pass rush ability, he did

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 7>show some ability to play the run. He had a

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 7>terrible like I say that the practice out here with

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 7>all that went down, But he's a guy that when

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 7>you watch him play those flash players, you see it

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 7>in his game. So I I do feel like though, too,

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 7>that we're battling for that that last corner spot.

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 3>You know you mentioned Eric Scott.

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 7>I think that you could talk about haul in there,

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 7>and maybe I don't know how you guys feel about mcuamu,

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 7>but I think he's.

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Kind of in that mix too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 7>And so there's the receivers, defensive linemen, and then the

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 7>defensive back, especially at corner. I think are all there's

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 7>still stuff to be playing for Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say this about Huggins. You know that whole situation.

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean, if he didn't have a legitimate shot I'm

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 5>making the roster, they would have cut him after that situation. Yeah,

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 5>so I do think there is a legitimate opportunity for

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:34.719
<v Speaker 5>him on the table. He's gonna have to go out

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:35.719
<v Speaker 5>there and grab it on Saturday.

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 6>The interesting thing about mcwammala, I think is that he

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 6>has a little bit of a position flex, and I

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 6>don't know that there are a lot of guys that

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 6>have that kind of position flex.

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 7>But okay, now when you say position flex, I think

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 7>we feel good about the safeties, right.

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 7>Position flex means he can play corner, could play safety.

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 3>I think they're taking care of it safety.

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 4>That's fine.

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 7>I think I'm looking for the pure corner guy now

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 7>is what I'm looking at. You know, his metrics the

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 7>other day in that game, they threw four targets at

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 7>him and they were no catches.

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, he's.

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<v Speaker 7>Quietly kind of he has those moments where you're you're

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 7>playing games where the separation is not big, the tight

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 7>window throws or tight window throws with him, he's he's

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 7>got a lot of the metrics and things that you

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 7>really really like in a corner. But the position flegs part. Man,

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 7>I'm looking at the team now, I'm looking at a

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 7>team that's got some safeties. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 7>have to have the position flex with him.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, but they may only decide that they want to

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 6>keep four of those safeties. And if you keep four

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 6>of them, as we know as.

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, they could go six and four.

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 6>My point is, if you keep four of those, all

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 6>it takes is one game or two games where you

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 6>lose two guys and all of a sudden you are strapped.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 6>Having that guy who has the abilities over there. You're right,

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 6>especially if you think he's a good corner as well. Right,

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 6>that does add some value to your team that that

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 6>you may have, especially if he can play special team

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 6>on top of that.

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 5>In addition, he was getting a lot of Nickel reps

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 5>in that game on Saturday. El that's I think. Whatever

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 5>you look at. Oh no, he yes, secondary versatility, he

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 5>could play any spot.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, no, he gets That's the thing about there's a

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 7>lot of positive things about him, and I always felt

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 7>like he had one foot in the parking lot. He

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 7>was kind of like nay Sean Wright to me. You know,

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 7>They're like, Okay, it's yere four. You know, here we go.

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 7>What do you got going here? And so it makes

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 7>a lot of sense, though, all right, we're gonna take

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<v Speaker 7>our final break.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll come back and I'm gonna go through some of

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<v Speaker 6>these positions, and I want to get some ideas from

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<v Speaker 6>you guys on not only what you saw, but kind

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<v Speaker 6>of where you see things shaking out with some of

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<v Speaker 6>these guys, some of these names you've already mentioned. We

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 6>want to put it in context from the position standpoint,

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<v Speaker 6>what do that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been a it's been a good camp.

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<v Speaker 6>It's been a really good camp so far, and I

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<v Speaker 6>think we've gotten a lot done. I think this team

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 6>has gotten a lot done. There are a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>things that were kind of hazy I think going into

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 6>camp that I think have cleared up a lot for me. Yeah,

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 6>from the standpoint of where I'm looking at this team

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 6>and where what I think their their possibilities are, that's fair.

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 3>That's fair.

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 5>I'll look on the defensive side of the ball and

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 5>compared to where I came in into camp with the with

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:53.840
<v Speaker 5>the idea of Mike Zimmer's first year defense, compared to

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 5>what I'm coming out with, I feel really confident that

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 5>this is a better unit, you know, on this team,

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 5>and I'm not I'm sure I could have said that

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 5>coming in experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Depth.

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 5>I think depth is probably the biggest thing, and that

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 5>that second level, the linebacker replace.

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 6>That it was it linebackers and what changes its defense.

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the linebackers will make this run defense better.

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, But you say the depth because a lot of

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:18.240
<v Speaker 7>depth went out the door.

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 3>Do you feel like the depth that went out the door?

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 7>The Armstrongs, the foulers, the curses, those kinds of guys

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 7>you think that they've replaced or they've shown enough obviously

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:31.359
<v Speaker 7>had because you think it's it's something they've gotten better.

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't say they've necessarily replaced the edge depth or

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 5>the defensive tackle depth because you lose guy like Hankins too.

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 5>That's certainly a part of that. I still have some

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 5>questions up front, don't get me wrong, but they are doing.

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 2>A lot to address those bodies.

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.360
<v Speaker 5>They're going and getting carlast and they're going and trading

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 5>for Jordan Phillips. You know, they're being proactive in that

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 5>in that sense, and I think that second level is

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 5>just going to be able to help out the entire defense.

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 5>I really do feel like the linebackers that they have added,

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 5>not only from getting over shown back from injury, but

0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 5>Kendricks and free agency, drafting, leafl and the steps that

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 5>he's taken in his rookie minute camp. I feel really

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:04.479
<v Speaker 5>good about the entire defense because of that unit.

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 7>I like to thank Dan Quinn for something, you know,

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 7>and maybe this is the wrong way of doing it,

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 7>but thank you for not taking.

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Al Harris with you.

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 7>No doubt, I think Al Harris has been the guy

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 7>that I really love watching coach. I think these these

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 7>the secondary has responded to him. I think Mike Zimmer

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 7>never have coached with him. Known Al Harris from his

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 7>days in Green Bay and playing in those kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you have to respect.

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<v Speaker 7>He is a guy that he he shows emotion, he

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 7>shows passion, he's these guys respond to him the way

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 7>he coaches. He's not a yeller, screamer guy. But man,

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 7>when his kids make plays, he's with them, he's you know,

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 7>he's fired up for him.

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 3>But these guys are playing in the right spot. The

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 3>safety room I think is better.

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 7>The corners look better that just the way the techniques

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 7>and stuff. You can bring guys in off the street.

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 7>Bring a trade for a guy booth and what he

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 7>ends up with eight tackles.

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 3>He has to he has.

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<v Speaker 7>To cover, but you throw him in the mix and

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 7>now all of a sudden, he's making plays with the

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 7>thought of, hey, he's made my team, that kind of thing.

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 7>So I really do like what they, you know, coming

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 7>out of camp, what I've seen, how the defensive staff

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 7>has really come together here with that. And I'll say

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 7>this also too, I feel like though that these the

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 7>young Lionean, I think we got to where we were

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 7>all thinking this journey was going to go. We'll see

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:25.240
<v Speaker 7>if the final the final chapter is BBS the starting center.

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 7>But I kind of think we're getting towards the end

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 7>of that novel that you're gonna get what we thought

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 7>coming out of the draft show that you're going to

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 7>get the left tackle and the center, and so I

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 7>think that's something that that I was looking forward to seeing.

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 7>I think we're getting to that point.

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 6>You know when you look at this defense, and you

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 6>kind of mentioned this, but when I look at it,

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 6>I think, Okay, you lost curse. I think Bell is

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 6>every bit is capable of this curse, maybe even more capable.

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 3>Cover guy.

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, shut out, I think he may be even more capable.

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 6>I heard you say this the other day, Brian about Phillips.

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 6>Phillips is with a little more pass rush. Yeah, on paper,

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 6>so if he is on paper, if he is on

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 6>the field, what we think he is on paper, Again,

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 6>you've you've maybe gotten better at that position than you

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:12.879
<v Speaker 6>were before. I think these linebackers are appreciably better than

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 6>what they were last year, mainly because of injury. When

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 6>you lost Ladon Vanders that was a huge hit. I

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 6>think they have even proved there you get Trayvon Back.

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 6>I think you look at this defense and you can

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 6>you can make the argument even with the loss of

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 6>Armstrong and Fouler, you can make the argument this defense

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:29.399
<v Speaker 6>is going to be better than it.

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 4>Was last year.

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 6>That's something I didn't know going into training camp, and

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 6>now I feel a lot better about the defense. I

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 6>think at this point the real issue is just going

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 6>to be the pass rush. Are you going to be

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.319
<v Speaker 6>able to get the pass rush from the guys that

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 6>are new to this to this defense that you didn't

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:45.439
<v Speaker 6>have last You know, Michael is going to be Michael,

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 6>you know Tank's going to be Tank?

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 3>N What is your rotation look like?

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 4>And that actually leads me to that position.

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<v Speaker 6>When you talk about the edge guys Kneelan, Goldston, Fejoko,

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<v Speaker 6>the guys that played this last week, what did you

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<v Speaker 6>see from them this last week. From the standpoint of

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<v Speaker 6>pass rush, was it better than what you saw the

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<v Speaker 6>game before?

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<v Speaker 4>Is pretty much the same? And are you at all.

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<v Speaker 6>Concerned about the level of pass rush you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 6>from these guys?

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<v Speaker 2>For me, it was pretty much the same.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I still like what Marshall Neeland was doing

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<v Speaker 5>in the run game specifically, but from a pass rush perspective,

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't see a whole lot of push being generated

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<v Speaker 5>from that edge group.

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<v Speaker 2>Granted, you get.

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<v Speaker 5>Karl Lawson, you can see what maybe he can bring

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<v Speaker 5>to the table as early as this Saturday. Al Kadi Muhammad,

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<v Speaker 5>I think the more snaps and more reps that he

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<v Speaker 5>gets in the system, I think he's going to be

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<v Speaker 5>a beneficial addition to that room. But all in all,

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<v Speaker 5>I need to see more from that edge group behind

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<v Speaker 5>Michael Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence because I'm theorizing a situation

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<v Speaker 5>where you're playing, you know, Baltimore in Week three and

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<v Speaker 5>you're about to get off the field on third down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's third and five. You can't make a stop, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that rotation unit needs to come in. It's first and ten.

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 5>They're at the fifty and then that rotation unit can't

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<v Speaker 5>get any pressure on Lamar Jackson and there's another big

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<v Speaker 5>play right there on first down, so they need a.

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<v Speaker 2>Good rotational set.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm hoping that Karl Lawson can be one of those

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<v Speaker 5>guys as well as al Kadie Muhammad. I love what

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<v Speaker 5>Mohammed's done out here. I think he's gonna make this

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<v Speaker 5>team and be asked to play quite a bit. So

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<v Speaker 5>those are the two guys I'm looking at step up,

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<v Speaker 5>and obviously Marshall Neiland too.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's where I think we disagree a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's gonna come down to wheat or Muhammet's wheat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I and I nothing I know. I'm just watching.

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<v Speaker 7>Is they very well could go with the veteran guy

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<v Speaker 7>with Muhammad, you know, I just think that the fact

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<v Speaker 7>that they've kept Weed around and you know, he's been

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<v Speaker 7>in the system and stuff, that maybe they feel like, Okay,

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 7>here's a guy that we when they both have that

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<v Speaker 7>ability when it to come off the ball, they both

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<v Speaker 7>have the ability, but they just don't always finish.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing about it.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that's the biggest thing with the pass RUSS

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<v Speaker 7>or the lack of that we haven't seen here is

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<v Speaker 7>where have been those finished? There's been times the Rams

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<v Speaker 7>I think got the ball out quick. You know, the

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<v Speaker 7>Raiders the other day weren't interested in holding the ball

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 7>very much either. They really weren't accurate throwing the ball either.

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 7>It didn't matter, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>The pressure were. They were all over the place throwing

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<v Speaker 3>the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>The one advantage to your argument is that Tyres Sweet

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<v Speaker 5>has a special teams experience and I think he's a

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<v Speaker 5>better special teams player.

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<v Speaker 7>See that to me, And I appreciate you bringing that

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<v Speaker 7>up because we've seen what Bone Fossil has done. And

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<v Speaker 7>I know we were on break and I was mentioning

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<v Speaker 7>about roster spots and I was talking about good one,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, and I'm thinking, and we're really going to

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<v Speaker 7>have to put a young quarter on the on the

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<v Speaker 7>street because I have a core special.

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<v Speaker 3>Teams guy that I think is okay.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, they'll argue with me, they'll fight with me all

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<v Speaker 7>day and they'll say, hey, you're wrong about he brings

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 7>this this this, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if this day and age can unless

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<v Speaker 3>that guy's like that guy at New England that was

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<v Speaker 3>a Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, special teams player Bill Bates or something like

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.359
<v Speaker 7>you know Les, it's that type of guy. If you're

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<v Speaker 7>a difference maker, I get it. But do we have

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<v Speaker 7>a difference maker? Is a difference maker keeping me from

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<v Speaker 7>you know, keeping me from having a corner here?

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:47.799
<v Speaker 3>How much?

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<v Speaker 6>How much has the change and the kickoff rules affected that?

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<v Speaker 4>Because you still need.

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<v Speaker 6>That guy that can go down there as a gunner

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<v Speaker 6>on punt, but as a kick when you don't have

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 6>to worry about that in the kick game, like that,

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<v Speaker 6>does that change thing?

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<v Speaker 7>I think your most important people are the three guys,

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<v Speaker 7>the snapper, the snapper.

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<v Speaker 3>The punter, and the kicker.

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<v Speaker 7>I think everybody else is you try and find ways. Yeah,

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 7>if you've got a if you've got a badass special

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 7>teams guy that doesn't can't play any of their positions,

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<v Speaker 7>I get it having that guy, I get it. But

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<v Speaker 7>I think it has changed if all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 7>a roster spot on this team is taken by.

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<v Speaker 3>A guy that is he's a core guy. We love him,

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 3>you know that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 7>If you if I saw a difference maker every play

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<v Speaker 7>that he was on the field, I would say, yeah,

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:39.440
<v Speaker 7>I'm not gonna argue with you, I'm not sure. I

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<v Speaker 7>see a difference maker every time I strap it up

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<v Speaker 7>here and look at it, and that's that would that

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 7>would bother me as a as a personal guy in

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:51.799
<v Speaker 7>the room, is like, Okay, why I'm arguing I can't

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 7>keep one of my safeties. I can't keep a wide receiver,

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 7>I can't keep one of these backs because I have

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<v Speaker 7>a core guy that's a good player, but not a

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<v Speaker 7>difference maker. That that's that's when team building, to me,

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 7>gets a little hairy with special teams coaches.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's my opinion on that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm sitting here thinking about it and trying to

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 5>think about his his preseason usage as well, and I

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 5>think not seeing a whole lot of them in the

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<v Speaker 5>preseason kind of tells you that, you know, they're expecting

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 5>him to be on the roster whenever cut day does

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 5>come around. But it's fascinating they're going to use him.

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 7>Is they're gonna use him as that piece where they

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<v Speaker 7>cut down. The rules have changed. You can put two

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 7>I R guys on I've learned that today and get

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:35.319
<v Speaker 7>him back that kind of thing. But they're going to

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 7>use him as that veteran invested veteran like him, the snapper,

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:42.759
<v Speaker 7>the punter, if they need spots all you know, good

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 7>when those guys are going to be and then two

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<v Speaker 7>days and then they'll be back. They're gonna play the

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 7>yo yo game with these guys. But to me in

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<v Speaker 7>team building, if you could tell me, if you could

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<v Speaker 7>tell me, he is an absolute difference maker. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>one of the best cover guys you had last year

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<v Speaker 7>with Sam Williams as a gunner. On the other side,

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<v Speaker 7>Sam Williams good or bad, made more plays than what

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<v Speaker 7>good one man. And if you're I'm sure somebody in

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 7>the organization will walk up to me and say you're

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 7>full of asks, Brian, and I'm like, fine, but I'm

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 7>just if he's making every single tackle out there or

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 7>he's doing you know, then okay, show me show me that.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, that's a wrap. We appreciate you guys, this

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<v Speaker 6>entire camp. We appreciate you tuning in, catching us every

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<v Speaker 6>other day. We'll be back in Frisco next week. We'll

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<v Speaker 6>be on on Tuesday next week, Tuesday and Thursday next week.

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<v Speaker 6>I think cut down Day will happen sometime next week.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not sure exactly what you today, but actually we'll

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<v Speaker 6>be covering all of that, and then we'll get into

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<v Speaker 6>the season. We'll get into our regular episodes every single

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<v Speaker 6>day August twenty seventh, that's cut.

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<v Speaker 2>Week from today.

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<v Speaker 3>What is that?

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<v Speaker 4>A week from today?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so next Tuesday off cut, so we'll be covering that.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll have some some content for you guys, as we

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<v Speaker 6>always do, and then we'll get into that that next week,

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<v Speaker 6>week of Labor Day, that's when we'll start our daily

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<v Speaker 6>shows every day starting that Tuesday, Tuesday through Friday that week,

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<v Speaker 6>getting you ready for the open of the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 6>four seas Until then for Brian brought us Nick Harris.

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