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Speaker 6: Today we're gonna be talking about the Cowboys second preseason game.
Speaker 4: We'll have some names.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna throw out to you guys, some positions I'm
Speaker 6: gonna throw out to you guys, get your opinions on
Speaker 6: where you think things sit after that second preseason game.
Speaker 6: I think, obviously where we start, and it's where we
Speaker 6: started last week.
Speaker 4: But I think really.
Speaker 6: Evaluating Trey Lance at his performance, tell me what you
Speaker 6: think of where he was this week and what you
Speaker 6: saw from him, and also then give me a comparison
Speaker 6: to what you saw from him in week one and
Speaker 6: how much that has changed.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: I think the thing with Trey Lance is you were,
Speaker 7: just as you mentioned Derek, looking for improvement. You just
Speaker 7: wanted to see, were there problems against the Rams in
Speaker 7: the red zone?
Speaker 3: How accurate was he? Was there a decision making involved
Speaker 3: in what he was able to do.
Speaker 7: I kind of feel like, guys, they tailored the game
Speaker 7: play and to his strengths a little bit more in
Speaker 7: this game. I felt like in week one it was
Speaker 7: let's see Trey Lance pocket passer throwing the ball forty times.
Speaker 7: The game against the Charge against the Raiders, it seemed
Speaker 7: like more there was more of.
Speaker 3: The RPO stuff.
Speaker 7: There were things that they were kind of plays a
Speaker 7: little bit like I say, to his strength. So I
Speaker 7: was happy to what I saw with him. You know,
Speaker 7: when he faced the Blitz, if you check into the
Speaker 7: metrics and how that looked, seven of eight against the
Speaker 7: Blitz were the week before against pressure. There was a
Speaker 7: little bit of some problems there and he probably didn't
Speaker 7: handle that particularly well. But I felt like that the
Speaker 7: plays that he was involved with, there were some really
Speaker 7: good ones where you're like, Okay, you see athletic ability,
Speaker 7: you see the talent, you see the ability to get
Speaker 7: the ball out, you see the mobility and stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, there's going to be some issues with accuracy.
Speaker 7: That's kind of his game right now. But I thought
Speaker 7: he looked more comfortable, he looked more confident, and the
Speaker 7: team moved the ball that way offensively because of how
Speaker 7: he played.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot more confident, a lot more composed.
Speaker 5: The first half, the time of possession battle was really wonky,
Speaker 5: so I don't really feel like he got a he
Speaker 5: got going in full stride until deep into that second half.
Speaker 2: But whenever he did get going deep into that second half, we.
Speaker 5: Saw that confidence and it was throws across the middle
Speaker 5: and it was throws outside the numbers. And that was
Speaker 5: the biggest criticism I took away from the game against
Speaker 5: the Rams is that he couldn't push anything to the outside,
Speaker 5: and when he did he was leading receivers wrong. He
Speaker 5: was leading them away from the sticks, but he was
Speaker 5: putting balls in really good places. On Saturday against the Raiders.
Speaker 5: Really liked the way he used his feet. We saw
Speaker 5: the athleticism being used a little bit more, We saw
Speaker 5: the Reid option being used a little bit more.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 5: McCarthy was even helping him out in that area in
Speaker 5: some instances. His footwork is still really bad and I
Speaker 5: think it's definitely gonna have to take a step forward
Speaker 5: in that department. But if we are comparing from game
Speaker 5: one to game two, significant improvement, and if he can
Speaker 5: take as big of a step going into game three,
Speaker 5: then you could start to see the vision on Trey
Speaker 5: Lance going into the future.
Speaker 2: And I know I mentioned it on the Camp and
Speaker 2: Out podcast, but they have a.
Speaker 5: Few different They have a few different options when it
Speaker 5: comes to Lance. It's, you know, make him QB two
Speaker 5: this year. I don't feel like that would be the
Speaker 5: right decision. Make him QB two next year, which I
Speaker 5: feel like could be the right decision, or use him
Speaker 5: as some sort of value right now I mean you
Speaker 5: look at some teams, you look at the Raiders. I
Speaker 5: think Trey Lance is better than both of those guys
Speaker 5: coming out of that game on Saturday. So you know,
Speaker 5: there's gonna be some options at the front office we'll
Speaker 5: toy with. But I think truly they want to develop
Speaker 5: this guy and they want to have him behind Dak
Speaker 5: Prescott for the future.
Speaker 7: Nick can ask you a question, if Trey Lance is
Speaker 7: quarterback three, do you even look into resigning him or
Speaker 7: trying to extend him after this?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do because you look at these two guys.
Speaker 5: You look at Cooper Rush and Trey Lance are both
Speaker 5: on expiring deals. You have Cooper Rush who's going to
Speaker 5: be thirty one going into twenty twenty five, and Cooper
Speaker 5: Rush being or excuse me, Trey Lance being twenty five
Speaker 5: going into twenty twenty five. You look at the youth
Speaker 5: and the ability to be able to develop and the ceiling. Well,
Speaker 5: you know which one has reached his ceiling already, which
Speaker 5: one probably still have some ways to go.
Speaker 2: I think if you're looking at it that way.
Speaker 5: I understand why you would want to bring back Trey
Speaker 5: Lance and make him the QB two and give Cooper
Speaker 5: Rushian opportunities elsewhere.
Speaker 2: And that's not to say that Cooper Rush hasn't done
Speaker 2: a great job in Dallas. I think he has.
Speaker 5: I think at that point, it's just you kind of
Speaker 5: look around the room and you say, Okay, if Dak
Speaker 5: Prescott We're to go down with the injury, do I
Speaker 5: want another thirty year old plus guy to be able
Speaker 5: to carry the load if he has to over the
Speaker 5: course of six games?
Speaker 2: You know, like, who's to say he goes down?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 5: I think when it comes to just but preparing for
Speaker 5: the worst, that's what you had to do whenever you're
Speaker 5: factoring in these quarterback two situations, I think Trey Lance
Speaker 5: would maybe be the better bet.
Speaker 7: Maybe I'm strange about this, but if something happens to
Speaker 7: Dak Prescott, I want Trey Lance playing, Yeah, And I
Speaker 7: want Trey Lance this year, yes, Okay, And I want
Speaker 7: Trey Lance playing because I want to try.
Speaker 3: And figure it out that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And if it doesn't work now I know now, I
Speaker 7: know that in twenty twenty five, I have to do
Speaker 7: this or I have to do that in order for
Speaker 7: my quarterback rooms.
Speaker 6: Can I give you a caveat to that? Because I
Speaker 6: agree with your thought process. I'll say this, Let's say
Speaker 6: we're mid season and we're knocking on wood because we
Speaker 6: don't want to lose.
Speaker 3: Like no, But if you're at.
Speaker 6: Mid season and let's say let's say the Cowboys are
Speaker 6: seven and one, now I disagree with you. Look now
Speaker 6: I think I want to stick with Cooper Rush because
Speaker 6: I'm and also, how long is dak Out?
Speaker 4: Is he gone for the Season's he gone just a
Speaker 4: few games?
Speaker 3: If he say, if he's out for the whole season.
Speaker 6: If he's out for the rest of the season and
Speaker 6: they're seven and one, I'm gonna ride with Cooper Rush
Speaker 6: for at least three or four games.
Speaker 4: I want to see what happens in those three or
Speaker 4: four games.
Speaker 6: If they all of a sudden get on a slide
Speaker 6: and they're not winning, that's when I say, Okay, I
Speaker 6: would much rather if I'm already losing, I'd rather go
Speaker 6: with the guy that's gonna give me an indication of
Speaker 6: where he's gonna be for next year, because I'm making
Speaker 6: decisions about next year. If if let's say they are
Speaker 6: midway through the season and they're three and four and.
Speaker 4: Or three and five, and they lose Dak Prescott.
Speaker 6: Now I agree with you because now I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 6: for the future, I want to see because I don't
Speaker 6: think necessarily either one of those two guys is necessarily
Speaker 6: gonna take me from a deficit to now getting back
Speaker 6: into the playoffs. I don't I don't necessarily see that,
Speaker 6: but I do want to see what I have for
Speaker 6: next year. I think I have a good handle on
Speaker 6: Cooper Rush. I don't know that I have a good
Speaker 6: handle on on on on Trey Lance.
Speaker 4: And I said that on our show the other night.
Speaker 6: I said, I wonder, at this point, are you going
Speaker 6: to run out of time with Trey Lance? Like you
Speaker 6: see some progression, you see some things you like I was.
Speaker 6: I was talking to someone the other day and I said,
Speaker 6: you know, he reminds me when he's running up running
Speaker 6: the ball, he reminds me of Kaepernick, like that long stride.
Speaker 6: Very we saw him in that game last over the weekend.
Speaker 6: There was one run where he took off around the
Speaker 6: outside and I thought there was no where he was
Speaker 6: gonna get the corner.
Speaker 4: And he got the corner and turned the corner right,
Speaker 4: and I was like, man, he can take up, he
Speaker 4: can he can move.
Speaker 6: Fast enough to actually eat up a lot of ground
Speaker 6: really quickly, though, And and that excites me because in
Speaker 6: today's NFL, having a mobile quarterback that can do those
Speaker 6: kinds of things can really win.
Speaker 4: You some ballgames. So I think there's some things you
Speaker 4: really like.
Speaker 6: I just don't know if they're gonna have enough time
Speaker 6: to flesh all that out and make sure he can actually.
Speaker 4: Play the position long term before they have to make
Speaker 4: it a sea.
Speaker 7: Let me ask you guys this question, then, do you
Speaker 7: think the Cooper Rush is a different quarterback from what
Speaker 7: you've seen in camp? Because I seen a quarterback that's
Speaker 7: more willing to throw the ball.
Speaker 3: Down the field.
Speaker 7: I'm you know, you mentioned the comebacks, the deep outs,
Speaker 7: the deep shots down the field. Maybe Cooper Rush with
Speaker 7: all the Trey Lance Hype has said, you know what,
Speaker 7: what do I have to lose. I'm gonna be the
Speaker 7: second or third here. Might as well try and push
Speaker 7: the ball a little bit more. If that's the case,
Speaker 7: maybe you do have a different quarterback here.
Speaker 3: Maybe Cooper Rush.
Speaker 7: To me, it was always a very by the book,
Speaker 7: by the book by the book.
Speaker 3: Kind of guy.
Speaker 7: But if there's a willingness to have the offense run
Speaker 7: down the field like you would with Dak, I would
Speaker 7: be okay with Cooper Rush. I just feel like though,
Speaker 7: with Trey Lance, it gives me an element that we
Speaker 7: see teams winning with in the National Football League.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we saw in that first game whenever he pushed
Speaker 5: the ball downfield of Jalen Bruks down the left sideline.
Speaker 5: And we've seen Trey Lance try to push the ball
Speaker 5: downfield on a couple of different occasions in games and
Speaker 5: it hasn't It hasn't quite worked out. So I think
Speaker 5: I think if it's a situation regardless is my personal belief.
Speaker 5: If it's a situation regardless three and five or seven
Speaker 5: and one and Dak Prescott were to go down, I
Speaker 5: want Cooper Rush in there.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I think that's a guy who he knows the offensive
Speaker 5: system really well. I think he matches, you know, he
Speaker 5: matches with these receivers really well. He has experience with
Speaker 5: these guys. Not to say that Trey Lance doesn't. I mean,
Speaker 5: there's some young receivers all they know is Trey Lance,
Speaker 5: you know, working with the second and third team. But
Speaker 5: I would want Cooper in there right now. I just
Speaker 5: it's too much inconsistency from Trey Lance. There's too much
Speaker 5: hesitance in the pocket. Still, yes, he has improved from
Speaker 5: week one to week sir, but I want somebody that's
Speaker 5: confident in the pocket, and I think Cooper Rush is confident.
Speaker 5: Can he do every thing, No, absolutely not, but I
Speaker 5: think he does do enough to be able to warrant
Speaker 5: really good quarterback play when when the time is needed.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll also tell you this if they're three and five.
Speaker 6: Another reason why I think I probably want want Cooper
Speaker 6: Rush to not be the guy is because this is
Speaker 6: gonna sound weird and maybe a little bit selfish, but
Speaker 6: I'm like, at three and five, I don't think I'm
Speaker 6: gonna go deep into the playoffs, even if I somehow
Speaker 6: manage to get back in the playoffs. Give me the
Speaker 6: best draft pick I can possibly get, because I may
Speaker 6: be in a situation where I need a quarterback. And
Speaker 6: if you're in that situation now, you want to be
Speaker 6: as high as the draft as you possibly can. So
Speaker 6: for me, if I'm at three and five and I
Speaker 6: lose Dak, that's at that point where I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 6: give me the top pick.
Speaker 4: I can possibly get. I'm playing for next year. At
Speaker 4: that point.
Speaker 6: So for me, give me the quarterback I need to
Speaker 6: develop and see more of to decide is this gonna
Speaker 6: be a player for me? And is this to somebody
Speaker 6: I really want to invest in?
Speaker 2: You think who makes that decision the way?
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this question real quick. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: get to that.
Speaker 4: It ain't gonna be me me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't. Last time you listened to me was
Speaker 3: two thousand and five. That was a long time ago.
Speaker 7: The you you the way you evaluate it right now,
Speaker 7: you don't see Trey Lance is being a quarterback in
Speaker 7: the future here if something, if Dak were to move on.
Speaker 5: As a starting quarterback in this future, not as of
Speaker 5: right now. I think it would take. I think it
Speaker 5: would take after Dak Prescott's next contract and if Trey
Speaker 5: Lance was still around at that point. Okay, but I'm
Speaker 5: sure by that point Lance is ready to move on
Speaker 5: and find some greener pastors.
Speaker 7: And that's you know, it's funny, it's it's it's as
Speaker 7: like I say, it's an interesting thought because I've seen
Speaker 7: some positivity, but I understand I understand where people are
Speaker 7: with with that with Trey Lance, and you know, if
Speaker 7: he's really that far away yeah, you know, and to
Speaker 7: you he is that far away.
Speaker 2: I think he is now.
Speaker 5: Again, if we were talking about, you know, if this
Speaker 5: was Raiders break, I'd be like, yeah, this guy's ready
Speaker 5: to go.
Speaker 2: Like him out there, Yeah, you know, but it's a starter.
Speaker 2: He's a starter, let's get it going.
Speaker 5: Know, but I don't see him just with the way
Speaker 5: this team has. Even if they move on from Dak Prescott,
Speaker 5: Let's let's say next offseason they're going to draft a
Speaker 5: guy that's that's most likely going to be the case.
Speaker 5: I feel like they're gonna draft a gout regardless of
Speaker 5: Dak moves on or not next year. So there's going
Speaker 5: to be a young quarterback in that room either battling
Speaker 5: with him or they're gonna have to make a decision
Speaker 5: between the two when it comes to next offseason.
Speaker 2: So I'm I just I don't see it.
Speaker 5: I don't see in reality where Trey Lance is the
Speaker 5: starter going into any season.
Speaker 4: Look, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 6: Until Dak and the Cowboys come to a resolution on
Speaker 6: that part, everything is we don't know what's gonna happen
Speaker 6: because it's just like there's too many there are too
Speaker 6: many factors to really know. And that's when you made
Speaker 6: that question, when you ask that question about, like, what
Speaker 6: do you think of a trade for the few?
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know right now. You may get through
Speaker 4: the end of the season and things just fall completely
Speaker 4: off the rails.
Speaker 6: In regards to Dak wanting to be here, like Dax
Speaker 6: has a lot of control on this too, I say.
Speaker 4: I choose to do something different.
Speaker 6: The point is, until that deal is done, everything is
Speaker 6: as a possibility in my mind, and so I approach
Speaker 6: it as, Hey, let me find out as much as
Speaker 6: I can possibly find out about all three quarterbacks, and
Speaker 6: then we'll see next year. Cooper Rush, maybe you're starting,
Speaker 6: who knows what happens. But until that's done, I think
Speaker 6: that's the first piece that has to actually come down,
Speaker 6: and then you can start figuring.
Speaker 4: Out what happens to the rest of it.
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Speaker 6: come back. We're gonna get some standout players from this game.
Speaker 6: I want to hear from you guys on that, and
Speaker 6: we'll also see some players that you guys think going
Speaker 6: into this final preseason game have a lot of work
Speaker 6: to do and need a really great performance in order
Speaker 6: to solidify their roster spots.
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Speaker 4: So let's talk about standout players.
Speaker 6: I want you guys to give me some players at
Speaker 6: stood out to you in this last game that he
Speaker 6: thought had really great performances.
Speaker 5: Let's start with these, Nick Yeah, I man, I really
Speaker 5: loved what I saw from Duce Swan. Missing a lot
Speaker 5: of camp with that hamstring injury really tough, especially this
Speaker 5: specific camp, because that running back is in desperate need
Speaker 5: of a playmaker, and I think we saw a little
Speaker 5: bit of a glimpse of that in that game against
Speaker 5: the Raiders. I mean that one play where he bounces
Speaker 5: out to the outside, he cuts back and he makes
Speaker 5: a corner. Just look foolish. You know that's a corner
Speaker 5: that's playing on Sundays. You know that's that's not a
Speaker 5: corner who he was maybe bouncing off tacklers in Seattle
Speaker 5: last year against You know, that's a that's a legit player.
Speaker 2: So he looked really good.
Speaker 5: Five rushes for thirty four yards almost seven yards per pop.
Speaker 5: I really love what he brought to that's that running
Speaker 5: back room on Saturday. I think he I think there's
Speaker 5: now a path for him to be able to stamp
Speaker 5: a roster spot this upcoming Saturday. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 5: he made the roster last Saturday, but I think there's
Speaker 5: a pretty big path now for him to be able
Speaker 5: to stamp that going forward. And then man Keemon Hall,
Speaker 5: it feels like every time he steps on the field,
Speaker 5: he's making sure his name is being spoken about. And
Speaker 5: the seventy yard pick six was obviously huge. You know,
Speaker 5: we're gonna get into you know, potential, you know bubble guys.
Speaker 5: I think he's starting to rise into that bubble and
Speaker 5: it's starting to you know, push some names down maybe
Speaker 5: further down the list that you're like, okay, like he's
Speaker 5: on watch. So I really love the performance from those
Speaker 5: two guys, and Justin Rodgers started off the game pretty well.
Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't necessarily love it, but I liked
Speaker 5: what he brought to the table in the absence of
Speaker 5: Massie Smith. I think there's a path for him in
Speaker 5: the future to be able to get some reps this season.
Speaker 5: So those are the three guys that really stood out,
Speaker 5: you know, as far as guys that maybe didn't.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure we'll get into that.
Speaker 5: But the receiver position, man, it feels like there's a
Speaker 5: different guy every game.
Speaker 7: So yeah, and I think, you know, when you start
Speaker 7: to talk about the receiving position, I felt like that
Speaker 7: when you looked at Jalen Cropper, I felt like that
Speaker 7: he was going into this game, was ahead of the
Speaker 7: other receivers. I kind of feel like the group is
Speaker 7: now swished or shrunk, if you want to say, he
Speaker 7: could have gone out there and taken this job, and
Speaker 7: I don't feel like that he did that.
Speaker 3: And so now you've got some others.
Speaker 7: They've tried the Racy mcmaths and others. They they might
Speaker 7: have two catches, they might have four catches. And then
Speaker 7: you watch the special Teams tape and all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: Racy McMath is playing right flyer and they run him
Speaker 7: down there and then he gets blocked inside and now
Speaker 7: the ball's going up the sidelines for a big play.
Speaker 7: They're trying to figure this thing out. You mentioned with
Speaker 7: I mentioned with Cropper the fumble you know on the return.
Speaker 7: They're trying to play these guys in special teams roles
Speaker 7: to see.
Speaker 3: If they're going to work out, and unfortunately.
Speaker 7: I think Cropper has brought this thing back to where
Speaker 7: this game against the Chargers, if you're depending on if
Speaker 7: you keep five or six receivers, this thing's really an
Speaker 7: open competition. There's gonna be some decisions they're going to
Speaker 7: have to be made there. My guys that I liked,
Speaker 7: I will say this, I've got as I've seen from
Speaker 7: camp and some of the work I've got. John Stevens
Speaker 7: is my second tight end here behind Ferguson. But I'll
Speaker 7: say this, and I'll say it from this way. Ferguson
Speaker 7: and Schoonmaker better blocking in this game, much better.
Speaker 3: When they've had in the past than they've had in
Speaker 3: the past.
Speaker 7: You were worried some about now Stevens had a play
Speaker 7: where it was the toss and it went for a
Speaker 7: negative play that you know, he's just got to understand
Speaker 7: if it's coming to your side, you got to work
Speaker 7: your hips around. You got to pin that guy to
Speaker 7: the inside and don't get beat the way he did.
Speaker 7: I think there was a little bit of indecision on
Speaker 7: his part, but Other than that, some of the backside
Speaker 7: blocks that he had, some of the point of attack blocks,
Speaker 7: the combination blocks that Luke's Schoonmaker and say in a
Speaker 7: Guidon were able to make to get to allow a
Speaker 7: deuced fawn to maybe sneak up inside or bounce to
Speaker 7: the outside because of some of that work. So I
Speaker 7: really did like what the tight ends were able to
Speaker 7: do real.
Speaker 3: Quick this way.
Speaker 6: On that twelve yard run that Duce had, I think
Speaker 6: it was his first run. Was that on that play,
Speaker 6: was that John Stevens that had his guy like five
Speaker 6: yards down the field?
Speaker 3: They had there was there was the.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to think of that the exact player you're
Speaker 7: talking about, But Stevens had a couple of blocks where
Speaker 7: he was into his guy and it was and there
Speaker 7: was that movement downfield. The first run of the game
Speaker 7: was with scoon Maker and uh and actually Geyton they
Speaker 7: were able to get their guy off the off the balls.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about that.
Speaker 6: It was the play where Duce had the run around
Speaker 6: the right side, but he kind of went up into
Speaker 6: the line and he kind of broke out to the
Speaker 6: right and went I think it was a twelve yard run.
Speaker 4: But on that play.
Speaker 6: It seemed like I saw John Stevens with this guy
Speaker 6: way down the field.
Speaker 7: He did a he did a much better job than
Speaker 7: the thing was Stevens big improvement there. Schoonmaker they had
Speaker 7: a deal with they got in space where they were
Speaker 7: in that play. We've seen this play a thousand times
Speaker 7: with Dak where they used to bring Galted Schultz in
Speaker 7: front and he would lead on the RPO.
Speaker 2: And Schoonmaker, Wift and Scheamaker.
Speaker 7: Got out in space and you know he's got a
Speaker 7: plaster that guy and try and knock him to the sidelines.
Speaker 7: He kind of got a little bit a little wonky
Speaker 7: there in space, and You're like thinking, okay, man, if
Speaker 7: you get that block, maybe it's a turn up and
Speaker 7: a little bit more yards. But overall, I'm just looking
Speaker 7: at these point of attack blockers for these tight ends,
Speaker 7: and I thought, for the most part, this group wasn't
Speaker 7: as poor as we've seen him before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if I could shut off the offensive line. You
Speaker 5: look at Cooper bb Man a phenomenal game that he
Speaker 5: had building on that Week one performance, you know was
Speaker 5: Week one perfect no, but I felt like he laid
Speaker 5: some really good groundwork going into Week two. Man, I
Speaker 5: think coming out of this game, we have Cooper BB
Speaker 5: maybe taking the edge in that center battle. I think
Speaker 5: we're gonna have that one really come down to the
Speaker 5: wire coming out of Week three. But I mean, if
Speaker 5: it's a situation where the coaches look at it and
Speaker 5: they say, Okay, if we give Cooper BB reps early
Speaker 5: in the season and maybe he's not where brock Kauffman
Speaker 5: is right now, let's just say that's the thought, then
Speaker 5: who's to say he won't be exceeding those expectations by
Speaker 5: at the end of the year. And I think that's
Speaker 5: where youth could probably benefit Cooper b B a little
Speaker 5: bit more. But you know, I still do believe in
Speaker 5: brock Kaufman. I still think that is a guy who's
Speaker 5: capable of being a starting center. But you look at
Speaker 5: BB and what he's been bringing to the table and
Speaker 5: how he has continuously been getting better as the weeks
Speaker 5: have gone on, that's big time stuff. And then you
Speaker 5: look at Tyler Geiden, also a really strong game. But
Speaker 5: I think the more reps that he puts out there,
Speaker 5: the less I'm feeling confident about his hand place. His
Speaker 5: hands are super wide, yeah, and they come around like
Speaker 5: almost in the biceps of edge guys. You know, I
Speaker 5: want to see him get up in the chess played
Speaker 5: a little bit more. I mean, you look at guys
Speaker 5: like Miles Garrett, who he's going to see week one.
Speaker 5: If he comes right into his chest play, that's going
Speaker 5: to be a little bit different for him. So I
Speaker 5: want to see him maybe adjust the hands a little
Speaker 5: bit better because that's going to buy him at some point.
Speaker 5: But overall, I mean, you see the strength, you see
Speaker 5: the power, and sometimes that overwhelms a bad technique.
Speaker 7: Man that I'm so glad you pointed that out, because
Speaker 7: there were like four or five clips where I looked
Speaker 7: at it, and I'm like, his technique right now is
Speaker 7: but hands outside and then trying to reset. He's such
Speaker 7: a good foot athlete that if he gets a little
Speaker 7: forward he can recover. But there's a lot of times
Speaker 7: you see those hands. You see those white gloves on
Speaker 7: the outside shoulders of those black jerseys that the Raiders
Speaker 7: were wearing the other day, and I was thinking, like, man,
Speaker 7: he is going to They're gonna coach him up on this,
Speaker 7: But you're absolutely right, hands on that breastplate for control.
Speaker 3: When you get hands.
Speaker 7: Outside, that gives the defender the opportunity to get to
Speaker 7: your body, and the really really good defenders will take
Speaker 7: you and they'll grab you and pull you out of
Speaker 7: the way there.
Speaker 2: And so if you're lucky.
Speaker 3: If you're lucky, if you're lucky.
Speaker 7: The thing with Beebie, there was only one time I
Speaker 7: saw on the second level, and you might remember he
Speaker 7: went the ball went to the left, and he was
Speaker 7: he went to an area where the defender was instead
Speaker 7: of where he was going to be. And the second
Speaker 7: time around they ran the play, he got it right.
Speaker 7: So it's like, Okay, I made a mistake the first
Speaker 7: time I ran out there and the guy beat me across.
Speaker 7: Now I know, okay, I've got to go a little
Speaker 7: bit further in front cut that guy off, and then
Speaker 7: it allowed the play to develop. But I thought, over
Speaker 7: all the young guys and shout out though two and
Speaker 7: we don't give it much of a shout out to
Speaker 7: a guys Matt will let's go play that whole game
Speaker 7: at right tackle, and so shout out to him that
Speaker 7: was That was not an easy task, dealing with Crosby
Speaker 7: and those guys out there. It wasn't pretty, but he
Speaker 7: managed to play the whole game he took one for
Speaker 7: the team. He's probably gonna have to take another one
Speaker 7: for the team on Saturday against the Chargers, but shout
Speaker 7: out to him for the effort he had.
Speaker 5: I really do think the offensive line top to bottom
Speaker 5: played really well in that game against the Raiders. Awesome Richards.
Speaker 5: I felt like I had an awesome day to at
Speaker 5: left guard. He feels natural there. I mean, you look
Speaker 5: at his body type.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that they think he's a better tackle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see it yet.
Speaker 5: They also think Chumy Dooga is a better tackle, he's
Speaker 5: a better guard. So I'm not one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 2: I an not buying that one up. Yeah I know.
Speaker 5: So I like what I like what Austin Richards brings
Speaker 5: to the table in the interior. I hope they can
Speaker 5: let him kind of develop there. But top to bottom,
Speaker 5: I really liked that offensive line performance, no sacks allowed,
Speaker 5: running game was getting some lanes. I liked what I saw.
Speaker 6: So if you guys had to name one player that
Speaker 6: going into this final game against the Chargers needs a
Speaker 6: great performance in order to give himself a shot to
Speaker 6: be able to make this team, who would it be.
Speaker 5: A shot? Can I give one offense, one defense on offense.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Tyron Billy Johnson. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: you look at this receiver battle and that last spot.
Speaker 5: You know, Jalen Cropper had his opportunity last week, Ryan
Speaker 5: Flanoy had his opportunity this week. I think it's the
Speaker 5: Tyron Billy Johnson opportunity going into the Chargers game.
Speaker 2: It's his former team as well.
Speaker 5: So maybe a little bit of banks there that he'll
Speaker 5: be able to take into that one. But he's he's
Speaker 5: played only roughly two or three series in each game
Speaker 5: and he's only had one target and zero receptions. You know,
Speaker 5: I would have to assume that they want to get
Speaker 5: Tyron Billy Johnson involved in a little bit more. You know,
Speaker 5: I was able to touch some folks last week and
Speaker 5: it just kind of happened as a natural game plan
Speaker 5: went on. You know that they were focusing in on
Speaker 5: Tyrn Billy Johnson against the Rams, and I see similar
Speaker 5: situations that were rising from the Raiders. But there was
Speaker 5: it was a couple of instances where you know, he
Speaker 5: was getting opened downfield, but it was outside.
Speaker 2: The numbers and Trey Lance.
Speaker 5: You know, he hasn't been really pushing it downfield like that,
Speaker 5: so especially early in games, and that's when Tyron Billy
Speaker 5: Johnson has had his opportunities on the defense side of
Speaker 5: the ball. I think it's Eric Scott. He needs to
Speaker 5: have a good game. You look at keem On Hall again,
Speaker 5: I think he's pushing for a roster spot at this point.
Speaker 5: You look at Andrew Booth obviously is going to have
Speaker 5: a roster spot. So I think, if you're Eric Scott,
Speaker 5: you need to have a really good game on Saturday
Speaker 5: and I prove that you're worthy of having a fifty
Speaker 5: three spot real quick.
Speaker 6: You just said Booth is gonna have a spot. So
Speaker 6: you think at this point both is in.
Speaker 2: No matter what I think he is, I think he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I to me, it's I like what you did with
Speaker 7: Eric Scott there. I think that maybe Eric Scott's fate
Speaker 7: might already be sealed. I'm gonna throw a name out
Speaker 7: there that people are gonna like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 7: Broad Us Albert Huggins a defensive tackle. He was not
Speaker 7: very good against the Rams in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: A pushover.
Speaker 7: If you will a pushover, all you have to do
Speaker 7: is put a put a polo, put a rams polo
Speaker 7: on a quarterback of the other team, and he might
Speaker 7: have a shot. But I'm gonna say I think Albert Huggins,
Speaker 7: they're trying to kind of figure out this defensive tackle rotation.
Speaker 7: I think they're trying to figure out the three technique
Speaker 7: stuff too. You know, we'll see with with Phillips, he
Speaker 7: plays a lot of three.
Speaker 3: He might be playing more one.
Speaker 7: But I kind of feel like though that he showed enough,
Speaker 7: flashed enough that you would think that maybe maybe they
Speaker 7: would keep him around because of he does have some flexibility,
Speaker 7: but he did show some pass rush ability, he did
Speaker 7: show some ability to play the run. He had a
Speaker 7: terrible like I say that the practice out here with
Speaker 7: all that went down, But he's a guy that when
Speaker 7: you watch him play those flash players, you see it
Speaker 7: in his game. So I I do feel like though, too,
Speaker 7: that we're battling for that that last corner spot.
Speaker 3: You know you mentioned Eric Scott.
Speaker 7: I think that you could talk about haul in there,
Speaker 7: and maybe I don't know how you guys feel about mcuamu,
Speaker 7: but I think he's.
Speaker 3: Kind of in that mix too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 7: And so there's the receivers, defensive linemen, and then the
Speaker 7: defensive back, especially at corner. I think are all there's
Speaker 7: still stuff to be playing for Saturday.
Speaker 2: I'll say this about Huggins. You know that whole situation.
Speaker 5: I mean, if he didn't have a legitimate shot I'm
Speaker 5: making the roster, they would have cut him after that situation. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so I do think there is a legitimate opportunity for
Speaker 5: him on the table. He's gonna have to go out
Speaker 5: there and grab it on Saturday.
Speaker 6: The interesting thing about mcwammala, I think is that he
Speaker 6: has a little bit of a position flex, and I
Speaker 6: don't know that there are a lot of guys that
Speaker 6: have that kind of position flex.
Speaker 7: But okay, now when you say position flex, I think
Speaker 7: we feel good about the safeties, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Position flex means he can play corner, could play safety.
Speaker 3: I think they're taking care of it safety.
Speaker 4: That's fine.
Speaker 7: I think I'm looking for the pure corner guy now
Speaker 7: is what I'm looking at. You know, his metrics the
Speaker 7: other day in that game, they threw four targets at
Speaker 7: him and they were no catches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he's.
Speaker 7: Quietly kind of he has those moments where you're you're
Speaker 7: playing games where the separation is not big, the tight
Speaker 7: window throws or tight window throws with him, he's he's
Speaker 7: got a lot of the metrics and things that you
Speaker 7: really really like in a corner. But the position flegs part. Man,
Speaker 7: I'm looking at the team now, I'm looking at a
Speaker 7: team that's got some safeties. I don't know if you
Speaker 7: have to have the position flex with him.
Speaker 6: Well, but they may only decide that they want to
Speaker 6: keep four of those safeties. And if you keep four
Speaker 6: of them, as we know as.
Speaker 3: Well, they could go six and four.
Speaker 6: My point is, if you keep four of those, all
Speaker 6: it takes is one game or two games where you
Speaker 6: lose two guys and all of a sudden you are strapped.
Speaker 6: Having that guy who has the abilities over there. You're right,
Speaker 6: especially if you think he's a good corner as well. Right,
Speaker 6: that does add some value to your team that that
Speaker 6: you may have, especially if he can play special team
Speaker 6: on top of that.
Speaker 5: In addition, he was getting a lot of Nickel reps
Speaker 5: in that game on Saturday. El that's I think. Whatever
Speaker 5: you look at. Oh no, he yes, secondary versatility, he
Speaker 5: could play any spot.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, he gets That's the thing about there's a
Speaker 7: lot of positive things about him, and I always felt
Speaker 7: like he had one foot in the parking lot. He
Speaker 7: was kind of like nay Sean Wright to me. You know,
Speaker 7: They're like, Okay, it's yere four. You know, here we go.
Speaker 7: What do you got going here? And so it makes
Speaker 7: a lot of sense, though, all right, we're gonna take
Speaker 7: our final break.
Speaker 6: We'll come back and I'm gonna go through some of
Speaker 6: these positions, and I want to get some ideas from
Speaker 6: you guys on not only what you saw, but kind
Speaker 6: of where you see things shaking out with some of
Speaker 6: these guys, some of these names you've already mentioned. We
Speaker 6: want to put it in context from the position standpoint,
Speaker 6: what do that.
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Speaker 4: It's been a it's been a good camp.
Speaker 6: It's been a really good camp so far, and I
Speaker 6: think we've gotten a lot done. I think this team
Speaker 6: has gotten a lot done. There are a lot of
Speaker 6: things that were kind of hazy I think going into
Speaker 6: camp that I think have cleared up a lot for me. Yeah,
Speaker 6: from the standpoint of where I'm looking at this team
Speaker 6: and where what I think their their possibilities are, that's fair.
Speaker 3: That's fair.
Speaker 5: I'll look on the defensive side of the ball and
Speaker 5: compared to where I came in into camp with the with
Speaker 5: the idea of Mike Zimmer's first year defense, compared to
Speaker 5: what I'm coming out with, I feel really confident that
Speaker 5: this is a better unit, you know, on this team,
Speaker 5: and I'm not I'm sure I could have said that
Speaker 5: coming in experience.
Speaker 2: Depth.
Speaker 5: I think depth is probably the biggest thing, and that
Speaker 5: that second level, the linebacker replace.
Speaker 6: That it was it linebackers and what changes its defense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the linebackers will make this run defense better.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, But you say the depth because a lot of
Speaker 7: depth went out the door.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like the depth that went out the door?
Speaker 7: The Armstrongs, the foulers, the curses, those kinds of guys
Speaker 7: you think that they've replaced or they've shown enough obviously
Speaker 7: had because you think it's it's something they've gotten better.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say they've necessarily replaced the edge depth or
Speaker 5: the defensive tackle depth because you lose guy like Hankins too.
Speaker 5: That's certainly a part of that. I still have some
Speaker 5: questions up front, don't get me wrong, but they are doing.
Speaker 2: A lot to address those bodies.
Speaker 5: They're going and getting carlast and they're going and trading
Speaker 5: for Jordan Phillips. You know, they're being proactive in that
Speaker 5: in that sense, and I think that second level is
Speaker 5: just going to be able to help out the entire defense.
Speaker 5: I really do feel like the linebackers that they have added,
Speaker 5: not only from getting over shown back from injury, but
Speaker 5: Kendricks and free agency, drafting, leafl and the steps that
Speaker 5: he's taken in his rookie minute camp. I feel really
Speaker 5: good about the entire defense because of that unit.
Speaker 7: I like to thank Dan Quinn for something, you know,
Speaker 7: and maybe this is the wrong way of doing it,
Speaker 7: but thank you for not taking.
Speaker 3: Al Harris with you.
Speaker 7: No doubt, I think Al Harris has been the guy
Speaker 7: that I really love watching coach. I think these these
Speaker 7: the secondary has responded to him. I think Mike Zimmer
Speaker 7: never have coached with him. Known Al Harris from his
Speaker 7: days in Green Bay and playing in those kinds of things.
Speaker 3: I think you have to respect.
Speaker 7: He is a guy that he he shows emotion, he
Speaker 7: shows passion, he's these guys respond to him the way
Speaker 7: he coaches. He's not a yeller, screamer guy. But man,
Speaker 7: when his kids make plays, he's with them, he's you know,
Speaker 7: he's fired up for him.
Speaker 3: But these guys are playing in the right spot. The
Speaker 3: safety room I think is better.
Speaker 7: The corners look better that just the way the techniques
Speaker 7: and stuff. You can bring guys in off the street.
Speaker 7: Bring a trade for a guy booth and what he
Speaker 7: ends up with eight tackles.
Speaker 3: He has to he has.
Speaker 7: To cover, but you throw him in the mix and
Speaker 7: now all of a sudden, he's making plays with the
Speaker 7: thought of, hey, he's made my team, that kind of thing.
Speaker 7: So I really do like what they, you know, coming
Speaker 7: out of camp, what I've seen, how the defensive staff
Speaker 7: has really come together here with that. And I'll say
Speaker 7: this also too, I feel like though that these the
Speaker 7: young Lionean, I think we got to where we were
Speaker 7: all thinking this journey was going to go. We'll see
Speaker 7: if the final the final chapter is BBS the starting center.
Speaker 7: But I kind of think we're getting towards the end
Speaker 7: of that novel that you're gonna get what we thought
Speaker 7: coming out of the draft show that you're going to
Speaker 7: get the left tackle and the center, and so I
Speaker 7: think that's something that that I was looking forward to seeing.
Speaker 7: I think we're getting to that point.
Speaker 6: You know when you look at this defense, and you
Speaker 6: kind of mentioned this, but when I look at it,
Speaker 6: I think, Okay, you lost curse. I think Bell is
Speaker 6: every bit is capable of this curse, maybe even more capable.
Speaker 3: Cover guy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, shut out, I think he may be even more capable.
Speaker 6: I heard you say this the other day, Brian about Phillips.
Speaker 6: Phillips is with a little more pass rush. Yeah, on paper,
Speaker 6: so if he is on paper, if he is on
Speaker 6: the field, what we think he is on paper, Again,
Speaker 6: you've you've maybe gotten better at that position than you
Speaker 6: were before. I think these linebackers are appreciably better than
Speaker 6: what they were last year, mainly because of injury. When
Speaker 6: you lost Ladon Vanders that was a huge hit. I
Speaker 6: think they have even proved there you get Trayvon Back.
Speaker 6: I think you look at this defense and you can
Speaker 6: you can make the argument even with the loss of
Speaker 6: Armstrong and Fouler, you can make the argument this defense
Speaker 6: is going to be better than it.
Speaker 4: Was last year.
Speaker 6: That's something I didn't know going into training camp, and
Speaker 6: now I feel a lot better about the defense. I
Speaker 6: think at this point the real issue is just going
Speaker 6: to be the pass rush. Are you going to be
Speaker 6: able to get the pass rush from the guys that
Speaker 6: are new to this to this defense that you didn't
Speaker 6: have last You know, Michael is going to be Michael,
Speaker 6: you know Tank's going to be Tank?
Speaker 3: N What is your rotation look like?
Speaker 4: And that actually leads me to that position.
Speaker 6: When you talk about the edge guys Kneelan, Goldston, Fejoko,
Speaker 6: the guys that played this last week, what did you
Speaker 6: see from them this last week. From the standpoint of
Speaker 6: pass rush, was it better than what you saw the
Speaker 6: game before?
Speaker 4: Is pretty much the same? And are you at all.
Speaker 6: Concerned about the level of pass rush you're gonna get
Speaker 6: from these guys?
Speaker 2: For me, it was pretty much the same.
Speaker 5: You know, I still like what Marshall Neeland was doing
Speaker 5: in the run game specifically, but from a pass rush perspective,
Speaker 5: I didn't see a whole lot of push being generated
Speaker 5: from that edge group.
Speaker 2: Granted, you get.
Speaker 5: Karl Lawson, you can see what maybe he can bring
Speaker 5: to the table as early as this Saturday. Al Kadi Muhammad,
Speaker 5: I think the more snaps and more reps that he
Speaker 5: gets in the system, I think he's going to be
Speaker 5: a beneficial addition to that room. But all in all,
Speaker 5: I need to see more from that edge group behind
Speaker 5: Michael Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence because I'm theorizing a situation
Speaker 5: where you're playing, you know, Baltimore in Week three and
Speaker 5: you're about to get off the field on third down.
Speaker 2: It's third and five. You can't make a stop, Okay,
Speaker 2: that rotation unit needs to come in. It's first and ten.
Speaker 5: They're at the fifty and then that rotation unit can't
Speaker 5: get any pressure on Lamar Jackson and there's another big
Speaker 5: play right there on first down, so they need a.
Speaker 2: Good rotational set.
Speaker 5: I'm hoping that Karl Lawson can be one of those
Speaker 5: guys as well as al Kadie Muhammad. I love what
Speaker 5: Mohammed's done out here. I think he's gonna make this
Speaker 5: team and be asked to play quite a bit. So
Speaker 5: those are the two guys I'm looking at step up,
Speaker 5: and obviously Marshall Neiland too.
Speaker 3: And that's where I think we disagree a little bit.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna come down to wheat or Muhammet's wheat. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I and I nothing I know. I'm just watching.
Speaker 7: Is they very well could go with the veteran guy
Speaker 7: with Muhammad, you know, I just think that the fact
Speaker 7: that they've kept Weed around and you know, he's been
Speaker 7: in the system and stuff, that maybe they feel like, Okay,
Speaker 7: here's a guy that we when they both have that
Speaker 7: ability when it to come off the ball, they both
Speaker 7: have the ability, but they just don't always finish.
Speaker 3: That's the thing about it.
Speaker 7: I think that's the biggest thing with the pass RUSS
Speaker 7: or the lack of that we haven't seen here is
Speaker 7: where have been those finished? There's been times the Rams
Speaker 7: I think got the ball out quick. You know, the
Speaker 7: Raiders the other day weren't interested in holding the ball
Speaker 7: very much either. They really weren't accurate throwing the ball either.
Speaker 7: It didn't matter, I mean.
Speaker 3: The pressure were. They were all over the place throwing
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 5: The one advantage to your argument is that Tyres Sweet
Speaker 5: has a special teams experience and I think he's a
Speaker 5: better special teams player.
Speaker 7: See that to me, And I appreciate you bringing that
Speaker 7: up because we've seen what Bone Fossil has done. And
Speaker 7: I know we were on break and I was mentioning
Speaker 7: about roster spots and I was talking about good one,
Speaker 7: you know, and I'm thinking, and we're really going to
Speaker 7: have to put a young quarter on the on the
Speaker 7: street because I have a core special.
Speaker 3: Teams guy that I think is okay.
Speaker 7: Now, they'll argue with me, they'll fight with me all
Speaker 7: day and they'll say, hey, you're wrong about he brings
Speaker 7: this this this, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this day and age can unless
Speaker 3: that guy's like that guy at New England that was
Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7: You know, special teams player Bill Bates or something like
Speaker 7: you know Les, it's that type of guy. If you're
Speaker 7: a difference maker, I get it. But do we have
Speaker 7: a difference maker? Is a difference maker keeping me from
Speaker 7: you know, keeping me from having a corner here?
Speaker 3: How much?
Speaker 6: How much has the change and the kickoff rules affected that?
Speaker 4: Because you still need.
Speaker 6: That guy that can go down there as a gunner
Speaker 6: on punt, but as a kick when you don't have
Speaker 6: to worry about that in the kick game, like that,
Speaker 6: does that change thing?
Speaker 7: I think your most important people are the three guys,
Speaker 7: the snapper, the snapper.
Speaker 3: The punter, and the kicker.
Speaker 7: I think everybody else is you try and find ways. Yeah,
Speaker 7: if you've got a if you've got a badass special
Speaker 7: teams guy that doesn't can't play any of their positions,
Speaker 7: I get it having that guy, I get it. But
Speaker 7: I think it has changed if all of a sudden
Speaker 7: a roster spot on this team is taken by.
Speaker 3: A guy that is he's a core guy. We love him,
Speaker 3: you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 7: If you if I saw a difference maker every play
Speaker 7: that he was on the field, I would say, yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna argue with you, I'm not sure. I
Speaker 7: see a difference maker every time I strap it up
Speaker 7: here and look at it, and that's that would that
Speaker 7: would bother me as a as a personal guy in
Speaker 7: the room, is like, Okay, why I'm arguing I can't
Speaker 7: keep one of my safeties. I can't keep a wide receiver,
Speaker 7: I can't keep one of these backs because I have
Speaker 7: a core guy that's a good player, but not a
Speaker 7: difference maker. That that's that's when team building, to me,
Speaker 7: gets a little hairy with special teams coaches.
Speaker 3: You know, that's my opinion on that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sitting here thinking about it and trying to
Speaker 5: think about his his preseason usage as well, and I
Speaker 5: think not seeing a whole lot of them in the
Speaker 5: preseason kind of tells you that, you know, they're expecting
Speaker 5: him to be on the roster whenever cut day does
Speaker 5: come around. But it's fascinating they're going to use him.
Speaker 7: Is they're gonna use him as that piece where they
Speaker 7: cut down. The rules have changed. You can put two
Speaker 7: I R guys on I've learned that today and get
Speaker 7: him back that kind of thing. But they're going to
Speaker 7: use him as that veteran invested veteran like him, the snapper,
Speaker 7: the punter, if they need spots all you know, good
Speaker 7: when those guys are going to be and then two
Speaker 7: days and then they'll be back. They're gonna play the
Speaker 7: yo yo game with these guys. But to me in
Speaker 7: team building, if you could tell me, if you could
Speaker 7: tell me, he is an absolute difference maker. I mean,
Speaker 7: one of the best cover guys you had last year
Speaker 7: with Sam Williams as a gunner. On the other side,
Speaker 7: Sam Williams good or bad, made more plays than what
Speaker 7: good one man. And if you're I'm sure somebody in
Speaker 7: the organization will walk up to me and say you're
Speaker 7: full of asks, Brian, and I'm like, fine, but I'm
Speaker 7: just if he's making every single tackle out there or
Speaker 7: he's doing you know, then okay, show me show me that.
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Speaker 2: Week from today.
Speaker 3: What is that?
Speaker 4: A week from today?
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