1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling, railvalry. No, no, sibling. 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth revely. That's good, 5 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: are you okay? Elie? I hate my dogs, okay, because 6 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: I just want to tell everybody that's listening that Oliver 7 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: just looks so like you're annoyed, You're frustrated, you feel 8 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: like like it's like it's like there's like a look 9 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: on your face that's like something's wrong. I just I'm 10 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: tired of my dogs. I almost want to take a 11 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: picture of what Donut did to my backhouse, because it's 12 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: like such a great example of like the dog you 13 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: never want, except then there's these moments where he's like, oh, 14 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: he's cute and he's great and he's a bulldog and 15 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: he's so funny and he's hysterical and right now, but no, 16 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: but but yeah, back to what you're saying. I know, 17 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about how there's a sense of sometimes 18 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: of entitlement when people are looking to get a job, 19 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: and like I don't know what. I don't know what 20 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: that feels like, because even now in my career, I'm 21 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: still like, I'll still work for a job, you know, 22 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: I'll still audition, I'll still show up and do whatever 23 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: I need to do. If I want to do something, 24 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: I put everything into it. I have no ego about it, 25 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If you want anything, you 26 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: have to go for it, which means you need to 27 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: follow up. The importance of following up, like if you're 28 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: going to interview with someone, if you're going to audition 29 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: with someone, Like there's there's something that is a wonderful 30 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: thing when you can call someone and say, hey, what 31 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: a blast, thank you for taking the time to see 32 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: me audition, thank you for taking the time for this interview. 33 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: And I really hope that it works out. If not, 34 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: I hope something down the line can. And you know 35 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: what I mean, like it goes such a long way, 36 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: Oh for sure. I mean even just from a strategic standpoint, 37 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: forget about whether you are believing it or not. Just 38 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: strategically it's a good thing to do, you know, it's like, hey, 39 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: this was great. You stay in their minds and relating 40 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: it back to Alison and her trying to find an intern. Yeah, 41 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's these kids, these college kids. I guess 42 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: they just don't really give much of a shit. I 43 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: guess that's maybe it's a generational thing. I mean, but no, 44 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: but that's it's interesting that you just said that, Alie, 45 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: because you're like, it's a good strategy. And I think 46 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: when when it comes to manifestation, it's not about strategy. 47 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: It's about like, it's about what you're putting in to 48 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: practice as a as a life practice without expecting outcome. 49 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Like manifestation only occurs when the outcome is 50 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: about what you're putting out, not what you're getting back. 51 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Like I believe that I manifested 52 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: not because I expected an an outcome. I manifested because 53 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: I literally just put it out and in my mind, 54 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: if it's not that it's this, if it's not going 55 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: to be this, it's going to be something over here. Like, 56 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: manifestation doesn't necessarily happen the way you have an expectation 57 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: for it to happen, or how you can strategize or 58 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: calculate it. It's more like how you it's honestly, it's 59 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: it's the foundation of the nicheron Buddhism, right, niets dam 60 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: holding that I've been doing that. Your ex girlfriend, remember, 61 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: she was the first one that I knew who did it, 62 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: and then my my one of my trainers, Nicole did it, 63 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: and then I started doing it, and I've always been 64 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: doing it. In and out of doing that most of 65 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: my do you just do the chance or do you 66 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: do the actual book? I do the whole thing. I 67 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: do the I do the prayer, I do the chant. 68 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: I chant and then I meditate. But I always go 69 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: back to it because it there's something about that, that 70 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: energy of manifestation that I appreciate, and it's and sometimes 71 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: it becomes really materialistic for people, and that's where I 72 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: think it doesn't work. That's It's funny you say that, 73 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: because that's one of the reasons why I stop. Because 74 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: I would go to these meetings. I was like kind 75 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: of deep into it, and these people be like, if 76 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: you want a new car, just say numb your hall 77 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: rain gay kill. I'm like, this seems weird. I'm like, 78 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: that's not the of it. No, but that's not the 79 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: essence of it. I mean, if you if you read, 80 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: if you read a lot of the quotes of the 81 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: of what's his name? I used to I had the 82 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: whole thing memorized back in the day. I knew. I 83 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: knew the whole book by heart. That's so great. Okay, 84 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: So SoC got Guy. Yeah, Soco got Guy International man. 85 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: That was such a big part of my life for 86 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: a while. It's so weird. You know. I watched the 87 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: documentary Tina, which, by the way, if anyone hasn't seen that, 88 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: please watch it. Well, she's like one of She's like 89 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: my hero. You know, she's so bad ass. She is 90 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: so so bad ass, such a rock star, and you 91 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: don't realize. Like, the thing I love about Tina Turner 92 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: so much is her struggle was so real and it 93 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: just forever. How about being Tina Turner? I can Tina 94 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: everything that she went through and then going fifteen years 95 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: and she couldn't get she couldn't get a how about 96 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: the recognition? Hold on a second. I hope nobody takes 97 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: this personally, but I mean what I'm about to say, Okay, 98 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: don't take it personally. You should just be accountable to this. 99 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: The fact that a record label or any record label 100 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: executive was like, I don't believe in Tina Turner as 101 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: an artist is everything that's wrong with with any industry 102 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't understand like when you're when you're when you're 103 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: too like caught up in your algorithm or your slate, 104 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: so your thing, you lose sight of the artist. And 105 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: it took it took these It took these two amazing 106 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: cheerleaders for her, one inside of the of the record 107 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: company who literally like begged and her manager to say, 108 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: she's a she's a star, she's a light, she's a like, 109 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: how how can we not bring Tina Turner back into 110 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: the like into the front of like, you know, she 111 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: needs to be playing stadiums off. The story just kills me. 112 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: What I loved about Tina is that she was a 113 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: rock star and she knew it. She's like, I'm not 114 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: a I'm not a everything that anybody wanted her to 115 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: be a pop star of this Like, she was a 116 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: rock star, and when you saw her perform, there's nobody better, Like, 117 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: there's no better female rock star. She's just fucking all fired. 118 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: She's fired. It's crazy. It was. That was a really 119 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: great document and I'm glad. I'm glad you saw it 120 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: because I watched it a while ago and I was 121 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: thinking about you that how much you would love that documentary. 122 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: But the thing is is there's this misconception that with 123 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: fame that it wasn't and this, I mean it's for 124 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: anybody that it's not worked for like that, with the 125 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: success of like you know, anybody that for some reason 126 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: it all just comes easily because money buys you success. 127 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: It's like, no, no, no no, that's not how any of this, 128 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: any of that works, you know. And that's such a 129 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: great story that I really never really understood about Tina Turner, 130 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: that that part of her life her thirties and forties. 131 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean, her hit record happened like, wasn't it in 132 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: her late mid to late forties. She was like fifty 133 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: and she was playing the stadiums. I mean that was 134 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: just Oh. And then seeing her like in her home 135 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: now with her husband. The story with I just that 136 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: whole thing. I don't even know why we got onto this, 137 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: but because of because of her Buddhism, like that's how 138 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: she came out of ike basically, that's how she found 139 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: her strength to sort of separate and say I'm my 140 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: own woman, like fuck off right, I'm me. Yeah, And 141 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: that was because of nietron dais shoon and Buddhism nomngeko basically, 142 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: So when I watched that, that's where, that's what that was. 143 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: When I watched that, I then it was like a 144 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: reminder to me, Oh, I should I should start chanting again. Yeah, 145 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: and I did. I still do on airplanes, like when 146 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: I take off, like I go through my beads and 147 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: go through nomonge ko, but I don't do the actual 148 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: practice anymore. I remember when I was going through a 149 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: really hard time in love and it sort of felt 150 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: like that thing of you know what. I guess a 151 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: lot of women might relate to this, but sort of 152 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: you come out of something that doesn't feel good, then 153 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: you try to like reevaluate, and sometimes you go and 154 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: you look around and you try to find, you know, 155 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: a source of validation through you know, any kind of 156 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: male adoration or flirtation. And then you like kind of 157 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: start dating and you're always disappointed. There's always somebody like 158 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: rejecting you or kind of feeling like it should be 159 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: something else. And you're going through this sort of trying 160 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: to figure out like how to get your feet back 161 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: on the ground after having a hard relationship. And that's 162 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: the first time I started with the niche and Buddhism, 163 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: and I have to say it calmed all of that 164 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: down for me because it was sort of like being 165 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: able to know that I was what I was putting 166 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: out as I was meditating, as I was chanting about 167 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: love was about the best love, not necessarily what was 168 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: like there at the time or what was sort of percolating, 169 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: but like trusting that it would find its way. You know, 170 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: it didn't work for a couple of for many years, no, 171 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: but you know, but the point of it is that 172 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: as you're doing that, it's sort of a lot like 173 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: the love that you find and that you're really manifesting 174 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: is in yourself and for yourself, and feeling good in 175 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: yourself and realizing that what you were actually asking for 176 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with that. It had to do 177 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: with feeling love for your for yourself. Things like that 178 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: that I love about. I like that it was active, 179 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'm meditating more than I have 180 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: in a minute now, And it's not easy. You have 181 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: good days, bad days, good meditations, bad medication, but you're quiet. Yes, 182 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: you can listen to something. But what's nice about chanting 183 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: is the active nature of it the droning, the trance 184 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: like state that you can almost put yourself in after 185 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, a few minutes, and I like that. You know, 186 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a proactive meditation in a sense. I 187 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: have to take a picture of my altar because I 188 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: also have It's like, that's exactly, that's exactly how I 189 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: feel it. It's like I chant and then I sit 190 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: and then I actually pull cards. I have like all 191 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: these different cards and I'll like feel different cards like 192 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: I've Gottess cards, I have spirit animal cards, I have 193 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: my tarot cards, and I start pulling from things to 194 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, kind of then I kind of sort of 195 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: ask to receive what the message is for the day 196 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: or for a particular situation. It's fun. You can make 197 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: it fun. Yeah, no, I know. Yeah, Well that's you know, 198 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: you're letting your intuition take over too. We're in a 199 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: Saturn mercury. I told you till October. How has that 200 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: been for you so far? It's been amazing. Good. Yeah, 201 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: it's been great. I feel great. I feel great. Thanks 202 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: for asking. Yeah, I'm on top of the world. Yeah. 203 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: Have you been firing and all properly? I've been going 204 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: through your reflections. Yeah, no, I've been reflecting on it's 205 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: just too negative. I don't want to get into negative space. 206 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: It's just in the quest to figure out what is wrong, 207 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: you realize. And it's no fault of the doctors because 208 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: they have a thousand patients. But no one really gives 209 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,359 Speaker 1: a shit, you know what I mean? And I understand 210 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: it because how can they be so attentive to each patient? Right, 211 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: take my sweating and whatever the fuck it is that 212 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: I'm going through. No one really gives a shit. They're 213 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: gonna give you a little dup up up up up, 214 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: and but you have to care for yourself. You have 215 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: to be proactive in pushing them to say no, no no, 216 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: no, no no no. I want this. I want this, I 217 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: want this. I don't care if you say no, We're 218 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: gonna He's like doctor House. You mean Hugh Laurie. Yeah, 219 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: I've been trying to DM Hugh Lorio on Instagram. Now 220 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. I gotta do it. I gotta 221 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: do it. I texted you this morning like a sort 222 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: of a half text because I just said doctor and 223 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: I literally like sent it by accident. What does it? 224 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: What does it say? He's a doctor? My might. Yeah, yeah, 225 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: and then this is the state on it. I can't 226 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: even finish this sentence and really excited to tell you 227 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: about Olive in June. They are a many system and 228 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: this many system is the answer to so long perfect 229 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: nails at home. Who doesn't love a many Oliver? 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Oh you want to 276 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: go first, I can do the long one. Yeah. Yeah. 277 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: So I tried to pre read some of these just 278 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: so I could get the emotion out. Let's see if 279 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: it worked. Hi, Kate and Ola, I don't usually reach 280 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: out like this, but I just had to tell you 281 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: how much I love Lisa Genova's up and how great 282 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: it was to listen to her on your podcast. My 283 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: sweet mother had Alzheimer's and there were days when I 284 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: felt like I was the one losing my mind. There 285 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: was so much I wasn't prepared for and did not understand. 286 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: After a few years, in I came across her amazing 287 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: books Still Alice. It completely changed the way I interacted 288 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: with my mom because the story was told from the 289 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: person with the disease perspective. It gave me insight to 290 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: what my mother had been going through that in turn 291 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: helped me help her. It was a nine year journey 292 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: with my mom, but through it all I relied on 293 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: what I learned from that book. A few years ago, 294 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: I started in Alzheimer's caregiver support group on Facebook, and 295 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: when a new member joins, the first thing I do 296 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: is recommend they read Still Alice, because I learned that 297 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: the disease will test the patients of even the best 298 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: of us. So learning to understand and being able to 299 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: empathize with your loved one is crucial. So thank you 300 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: for having such an important conversation on your podcast. Peace 301 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: and Love, Georgia. Oh Georgia, I know, I mean, god 302 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: it Alzheimer's is such a terrible disease. And you know, 303 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: it's like when you think about and yeah, Lisa was awesome. 304 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean she you know, and I love that she 305 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: does fiction fiction those are you know, Still Alice is 306 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: a fictional book, But then she just wrote her nonfiction, 307 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: which is what we had her on to sort of 308 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: right talk about. But yeah, I mean I have, you know, 309 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: friends who've gone through it with their parents, who have 310 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: either had early said Alzheimer's or even later in their life, 311 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: and it's just so hard. I mean, it's so hard 312 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: to to it's for everyone, I think, to experience. Yeah, no, 313 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: that was I love that podcast, you know, And it's 314 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: funny because she talks about hydration and water, yeah, you know, 315 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: for your brain. And it's funny because it's just weirdly 316 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: popping up in my news feeds and whatever. I don't 317 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: know why, but this sort of hydration for your brain 318 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: is crucial for so many things, you know, and I 319 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 1: need more of it. Honestly, I got to drink. I 320 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: need a nose breathe too. Okay, thank you Georgia for 321 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: writing that. We we're sorry about your mama, and by 322 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: the way, amazing things do and while starting agiver support 323 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: group is so nice too, Yes, exactly. Yeah, I mean 324 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: I think at the end of all of this, I 325 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: was watching We're Here on Netflix. Do you know what 326 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: that is? It's the it's the drag show that they 327 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: bring into these towns. I was watching it, and there 328 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: was this moment where I'm like, all anybody is looking 329 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: for literally in life is to be loved and supported. 330 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: Like It's like, it's like the basic need, and all 331 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: conflict and all pain and suffering all comes from not 332 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: feeling loved or supported. It's just crazy. It's just it's 333 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: just like and and and something becomes so you see it. 334 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: It's such an easy thing to see and such a 335 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: hard thing for people to do. But in a situation 336 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: like this to have, like for people who are going 337 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: through it through Alzheimer's with a parent or starting the 338 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: process of knowing that you know they are kind of 339 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: infected and inflicted, such a note a nice thing to do, 340 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: Georgia to start that group. Okay, Hi, Kate and Oliver. 341 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: My name is Wendy. I have been listening to your 342 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: podcast since the very beginning. Ever since finding Almost Famous 343 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: in my teens, I've been inspired by the character Penny Lane, 344 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: which led me to the real loving person you are. Kate. 345 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: I have a vision board with inspiration from you because 346 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: I want that energy you give off and love for 347 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 1: life and family in my own life. Oliver, you remind 348 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: me so much of my brother who I'm constantly chasing 349 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: your laugh and natural humor bonds everyone together in the 350 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: room and is exactly what I love about my brother 351 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: Brad and wish I had. Also, we can't talk about 352 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: our love for our famamily without choking up and our 353 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: voice cracking. No one in our family can. That's like us. 354 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: That's so funny. It's a funny sketch. It's a funny 355 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: like sketch of sometime where you have a family who's 356 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: just highly emotional, hyper emotional family. They can barely get 357 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: through a family dinner without crying, all of them. That's 358 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: like our family. I mean, have we ever gone through 359 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving without like everyone crying at point? And then the 360 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: best is when new people come to our Thanksgiving and 361 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: like they see it and then they're like they're like 362 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: the worst. They're like, oh my god, cried in years. 363 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: They're like no, I know, they just feel an obligated 364 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: They're like, oh shit, it's coming around to me. I 365 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: have to do what I'm thankful for. A fuck they're 366 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: crying out, So no one in our family can We 367 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: say I love you every time we hang up the 368 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: phone or leave each other. When we leave each other, 369 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: it's comical how many times we hug and say I 370 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: love you on the way to the car. I just 371 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: turned thirty nine this week, and my brother will be 372 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: fifty on June second. That sounds crazy to say, because 373 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: I still feel twenty ish, so do I, and he 374 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: has an age since he was thirty. Oh, same with me. 375 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: My brother and I are eleven years apart, and our 376 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: family is super close. Our parents have been married for 377 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: fifty two going on fifty years. I'm the baby, and 378 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: for as long as I can remember, I've been chasing 379 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: my brother or waiting on him to come home. I 380 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: was seven when he went to college in Atlanta, two 381 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: hours away from my hometown in Columbus, Georgia. I thought 382 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: he would move back home when he graduated, but he didn't. 383 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: I remember him coming home and coming up to my 384 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: room after graduation. Oh you're going to cry now, Wow, 385 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: Oh finally it's you, not me. I don't even know 386 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: why I'm crying. I think it's just because there's so 387 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: much love here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this should totally be aki. 388 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: I like it's nothing. I'm like not even crying over anything. 389 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: I remember him coming home and coming up to my 390 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: room after graduation. And telling me he was moving to 391 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: Greenville Greenville, South Carolina, and we both cried. And when 392 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: I was on an adult, when I was an adult 393 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: on a family vacation at the beach, he told my 394 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: mom and dad and I he was moving to Thailand 395 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: for three years, and me and mom cried in the hotel. 396 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: He was supposed to say three years and stayed seven. 397 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: I love his love for adventure and crazy ideas, but 398 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: I also only remember the feeling of missing him all 399 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: the time, like I've gotten the short end of the 400 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: stick with a sibling. I feel like an only child 401 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: when he is away, and when he is home for 402 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: the holidays or visits, that is when I feel everything 403 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: is as it should be. We all laugh and are happy. 404 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: I've followed his love of music and concerts and bands 405 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: he has exposed me to because they make me feel 406 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: like I have a connection when he isn't there. My 407 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: brother lives in Bangkok, Thailand now, with my sister in 408 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: law and niece. They moved three years ago back to 409 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: Thailand from Greenville, South Carolina, and we talked about how 410 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: nice it would be when he moves back if we 411 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: all lived in the same city. Well, in twenty nineteen. 412 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: I was listening to your Thanksgiving episode in my kitchen 413 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: on the counter, and I was laughing and kept thinking, 414 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: how funny we just talked about Thanksgiving. Yeah, that's so funny. 415 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: That was like that Thanksgiving. I don't only start crying again. 416 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: I don't know I and I was laughing and kept 417 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: thinking how much I feel like Kate and how much 418 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: Oliver reminds me of my brother with the singing and laughing, 419 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: And I thought, you know what, I want to somehow 420 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: live near my brother. I don't want to see him 421 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: during the holidays. I wrote my goal and vision on 422 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: a piece of paper and hit it behind something else 423 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: pinned on my vision board. I don't know why I 424 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: hit it. I had no idea how it would happen, 425 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: but the universe made its move, and my job asked 426 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: me if I wanted to move in the middle of 427 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: a pandemic in twenty twenty to Greenville. I decided to 428 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: make it happen. I sold my house I loved, and 429 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: my husband, our beautiful six year old daughter, Savannah, and 430 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: our golden retriever moved to Greenville for a chance of 431 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: a new adventure. My head and agenda to be near 432 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: bread finally when he comes home. We moved away from 433 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: all security and my parents who I used to see 434 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: daily for a chance to live near my brother for once. 435 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: It was hard. We rent my brother's house and had 436 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: hopes of him moving back soon, But now it might 437 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: be twenty twenty three now before he moves back. Guess 438 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: I'll keep waiting. But you know what, God has a 439 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: way of working all things out. We love our new 440 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: adventure here, like we're finally living in a great town. 441 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: We've met new friends, my husband loves his new job, 442 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: Savannah loves her new school, and I still have hope 443 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: that one day we will all live together and have 444 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: that loving relationship that you guys show on every episode. 445 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: We think we can talk my parents into living in 446 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: both cities. If we are both in Greenville throughout the year. 447 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: It gives me hope. Until then, I'll keep listening if 448 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: you will keep sharing. Thanks for bringing sunshine into so 449 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: many people's lives with your podcast. We are all saying 450 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: me too in our own ways. Love y'all. Oh Wendy, 451 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: I am saying that I've been to Greenville. I've been 452 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: to Greenville a ton like I play in a golf 453 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: tournament there for the last however many Yearsville is awesome, 454 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: Greenville's amazing. Love Greenville. I love this so much. And 455 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: you know what, It's so funny, isn't it, Because it's 456 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: like it's true, there's certain people. It's like her brother's 457 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: out there like doing all these things and doesn't. It's 458 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: like you're just it's like their brains are just different, 459 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: Like she stayed closer to her parents and didn't go 460 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: and do those kinds of things, and was always longing 461 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: that her brother would be around, they'd have some sort 462 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: of normal kind of it's gonna come. She's gonna that 463 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: to me, is a great manifesting beginning. I hope I 464 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: want Wendy to write us when it happened. It's so weird. 465 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: I know, even prior to reading these emails, you started 466 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: this whole thing off about talking about manifestation just in general, 467 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: and then the first emails about her putting on her 468 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: vision board manifesting sort of this new life or that 469 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: she where she can be close her brother, and it 470 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: fucking happened. I mean, weird, man. I know, I love it. 471 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: I love it awesome. And just the time that she 472 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: took to write this. I don't know, just I just all, yeah, 473 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: it's true. I I it's so meaningful for for for me, 474 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I I hope it is for other people 475 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: listening too. But like when I hear stories like this, 476 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: you realize that no matter how far away we all 477 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: think we are or by the way people might think 478 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: they are from me or you ali, like you're so interconnected. 479 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: There's so much there's you know, people, we we think 480 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: that we think that on the outside that there's such 481 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: a difference, that there's such such a huge you know 482 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: that you know, I know a lot of people sometimes 483 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: think that our lives aren't necessarily normal, and they're not. 484 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: They're they're they're not normal. Nobody's life is normal, right, 485 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: But there's such a there's when it comes to family 486 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: and dynamic and like how we all grow up and 487 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: live and how that how that then sort of turns 488 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: itself into who we are as adults in our relationships 489 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: with our siblings and our parents. It's so connected. Mm hmm. Yeah. Anyway, 490 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: I just I just think that it's like everyone wants 491 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: to know, like what's the secret. It's like the secret 492 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: is you got to connect to your ship because it's 493 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: where we're all like we all that's where that's where 494 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: every single human being's energy is connected. We all have 495 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: a different circumstances, similar stories. Mm hm, No, it's true. 496 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: That's a that's a good point. We really do. I mean, 497 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the feelings are the same. It doesn't 498 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: necessarily mean that again, circumstantially things might be different, but 499 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: the root of some of these feelings, they're so interconnected. 500 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: You know, the human experiences is never is never truly singular. 501 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: M hmm right, yeah, well that's why you have to 502 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: That's why it's important to talk about these things and 503 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: reach out. You know, even though you know you're not 504 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: alone in the way that you feel, sometimes it's nice 505 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: to actually hear that other people are experiencing the similar things. Yeah, 506 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, going back to the first email to support 507 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: group for Alzheimer's, it's like, yeah, everyone knows that many 508 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: people are suffering, you know, with caregiving for a loved 509 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: one who has Alzheimer's. But it's nice to get into 510 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: a place where you can talk and experience together and 511 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: feel like you're a part of someone something that is 512 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: going through something similar. It's comforting. Wandrium mmm We're really 513 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: excited to share this news. 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All right, hey, 568 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: Kateen Oliver, I hope you guys are fabulous. Well, where 569 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: to begin? I am Brittany from a small town in Georgia. 570 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm working at the hospital in the midst of the pandemic, 571 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: along with helping manage the COVID vaccine clinics. My sister 572 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: is actually working with a Department of Public Health and 573 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: she runs the vaccine clinics there. To say we are 574 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: tired is an understatement. I'm sending energy right now, Brittany. 575 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: This podcast has helped me in so many ways. It's 576 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: a place to go for tears, laughs, moments of realization. 577 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: But really, you guys always make me take a step 578 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: back in my life and really think about the happiness 579 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: and joy I have received from my siblings. My siblings 580 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: and I were not given the best childhood. Wait a minute, Alison, 581 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: did you put a sad warning on this? No you 582 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: did not. Okay, hold on, My siblings and I were 583 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: not given the best childhood. I have two brothers that 584 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: are younger than me and one sister who was a 585 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: year older than me. We sadly had a depressed, suicidal, 586 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: bipolar mother along with a father who had a very 587 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: bad addiction to drugsh We have so many horror stories 588 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: of what we witnessed and what we emotionally felt at 589 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: that moment. We were taken from our mother and father 590 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: at a young age and spent years waiting to be 591 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: reunited with our parents, constant phone calls of asking mommy 592 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: and Daddy when they would pick us up. But yeah, 593 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: it has caused us quite the abandonment issues. Yeah, my 594 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: father always has chosen women and drugs over his kids. 595 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,919 Speaker 1: He has not witnessed any of our births. My mother 596 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: tried her best to raise four children while constantly battling 597 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: the demons of bipolar disorder. We sadly lost our mother 598 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: to suicide about eight years ago, and my father is 599 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: still trapped in the addiction world. Through many counseling sessions 600 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: and tears, we have become quite amazing people regardless of 601 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: what we have gone through. Wow, good for you, Jesus, 602 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: that's tough. Through all of the trauma and heartache, my 603 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 1: siblings and I have created quite the bond. We fight 604 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: for one another. We are always there for one another, 605 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: and me and me and my sister basically became mothers 606 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: at quite a young age. We financially support our brothers 607 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: and emotionally, really etc. My brothers have turned out to 608 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: be amazing young adults. My seventeen year old brother has 609 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: his own business and was giving a lot of honors 610 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: for baseball. He will graduate high school next year and 611 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: will also be attending college, hopefully for baseball if he chooses. 612 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: My other brother is also on the same baseball team 613 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: and has been given many honor. He has bipolar oh wow, 614 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: and constantly fights his own demons every day. He has 615 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: just gone into high school, volunteers at church groups to 616 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: help others, works a job, and he is fifteen. My 617 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: brothers are my pride and joy. My brothers are my 618 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: pride and joy. They continue to give us a reason 619 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: to work harder every day. My sister is the first 620 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 1: college graduate in our family, and I am still working 621 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: on my college degree. With toxic family members, lost gains, 622 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: given responsibilities that were never supposed to be ours, my 623 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: sister and I have turned out quite amazing. I am 624 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: resentful of the fact that my parents were never the 625 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: parents we needed, but whenever I think about it, it 626 00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: has molded us. It's that perseverance, man, It's just amazing. 627 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: It has molded us into quite amazing individuals. Everything we 628 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: have lacked from our childhood was given to our brothers. 629 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: Not to say it was a blessing of losing my parents, 630 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: but we managed to make it and it is quite 631 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: a fascinating, quite an amazing feeling. Thank you guys for 632 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: your podcast. Kate, I've always loved you. You're such an 633 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 1: inspiring woman all of over, such an amazing man. Both 634 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: of your stories are inspiring, as you know, the emptiness 635 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: of a parent disappointing you from a young age. Wishing 636 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: you both lots of love. Brittany, dude, I did pretty good. 637 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: I did pretty good. Like I mean, I don't know 638 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: if i'd say that you kind of lost. I just 639 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: paused for you know, you know, look, this is one 640 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: of those stories. This is like you know to me, 641 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that Brittany knows because she says that, 642 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, she is amazing. First of all, you are amazing, 643 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: and your sister sounds amazing, and your brothers sound amazing 644 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: and amazing. Is is is the is the word of 645 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: this letter because she says that a lot too. So 646 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: it's what a beautiful thing to be putting that out, 647 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: but touching, touching on that real quick though, like Kate, 648 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: like when she says we've turned out we have both 649 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 1: my sister and I've turned out quite amazing. Like you said, 650 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: her owning that is awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because she knows, Yeah, 651 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 1: she knows, and you struggle. I mean, those are things 652 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: like you know, I don't know, you know, losing your 653 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: parent to suicide and knowing that that's I mean, it 654 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: sounds like they've known that that was a possibility throughout 655 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: being being young, but growing up with that kind of 656 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: instability is a very hard thing to come out the 657 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 1: other side and and to just like keep fighting for 658 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: a better life. And that sounds like that that is 659 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: what not only Brittany and sisters doing, but what they're 660 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: what they've given their brothers. And yeah, and now the 661 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: fifteen year old has bipolar as well, so you know, yeah, 662 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: it's it's also it's also an unfortunate common story, meaning 663 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: that again, you know, Brittany the family, they're not alone. 664 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 1: I'm sure through her therapy, has realized that there's so 665 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: many families who've you know, go through this. You know, 666 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: we were talking about kids getting fostered with their siblings 667 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: and you know, it's just it's just that, you know, 668 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: mental illness reeks havoc on families if you can't get 669 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: the right help, and I just I might my hope 670 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: and I'm sure that their brother is is doing good 671 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: and is getting the right kind of counseling. And but 672 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: what an amazing story. How old is Brittany did she 673 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: say in this she I don't think she did. She well, 674 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: I know that the brothers are seventeen and fifteen. She 675 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: hasn't graduated college. I'm assuming she's in her twenties. Yeah, 676 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: this is just unbelievable. I just I want to talk 677 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: to them. It's incredible. I mean, the strength again in 678 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: the middle and I was like, just when I was 679 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: trying to get through it, just the perseverance, the sort 680 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: of saying, no, this is what we were dealt and 681 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: we're going to make it better. We're going to do 682 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's just her sister 683 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: graduating college and also probably working full time. I'm assuming, 684 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,760 Speaker 1: like they look how hard they're working, and now she's 685 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: trying to you know. I mean, it's it's it's it's 686 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: just it's just amazing. And you know, addiction is a 687 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: really scary thing because you know, I always say, sometimes 688 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: you can't tell the smartest people you know to stop 689 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: using drugs. It's just such a hard thing to get 690 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 1: people to recognize when they have that kind of addiction. 691 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: The importance of getting clean. You can't tell them they 692 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: have to do it all on their own. You know. 693 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: It's a really really and it doesn't mean that their 694 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: father doesn't have isn't you know, doesn't have all great 695 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: qualities or could be you know clean, you know that, 696 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: but drugs, when they take a hold, it's just it's 697 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 1: just like man, it's relentless and oh sure, and then 698 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: you got to go back of course, and do you 699 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: know his their father's life, what did that look like it? 700 00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: But anyway, this is just a great share. I think 701 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: the bond this is a great sort of representation of 702 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: siblings and how you can bond when the one thing 703 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 1: that they have and they know they have is the 704 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 1: same experience with their parents, and it's brought them closer 705 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: to each other, more reliant on each other, more available 706 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 1: to each other. You know, it's just so thank god 707 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: they have each other. It's just yeah, so perfect. Yeah, Brittany, 708 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: we love you. Thank you for sharing. That was just 709 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:44,720 Speaker 1: the just you are amazing. Okay. My name is Sarah 710 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: and I have been a fan of your podcast since 711 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: day one. Aside from the podcast, I have been a 712 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 1: fan of your family as long as I can remember. 713 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: My husband and I dated for over seven years before 714 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: becoming engaged. Before he popped the question, I used to 715 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: say that we could be life partners like Goldie Hawn 716 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: Kurt Russell. Getting to know the two of you and 717 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 1: your family dynamics through this podcast confirms that you are 718 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: as delightful, warm, caring, and close knit as I have 719 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 1: always believed. I would use similar words to describe the 720 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: dynamics of my own family, and we certainly appreciate a 721 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: healthy dose of humor with anything in life, which is 722 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: another reason why I think I've always been such a 723 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: big fan of yours. I have an older brother technically 724 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: half brother, but we have always referred to each other 725 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: as full siblings and two younger sisters. My parents have 726 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: been married for thirty plus years, and I had a 727 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: real wholesome, stereotypical Midwestern upbringing. With that being said, as 728 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: you always say, everyone and every family has their struggles. 729 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: My older brother is almost eight years older than I, 730 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: and I found it difficult to remain close to him 731 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: in our adulthood, which saddens me. One sister is thirteen 732 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: months younger and the other is almost eight years younger, 733 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: and we have always been like three peas in a 734 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 1: pod once we got past the phase of my youngest 735 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: sister being the annoying one who wanted to pretend she 736 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: was older then what she was while we were growing up. 737 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: In recent years, I've seen my sister my younger sisters 738 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: struggle with depression, anxiety, eating disorders, alcoholism, thoughts of suicide, 739 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,399 Speaker 1: and legal issues. As we always say, everyone's got their shit. 740 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: My heart has been an immense pain at times seeing 741 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:33,360 Speaker 1: my sisters hurting and ultimately knowing that I alone cannot 742 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: take away their pain. On top of being an older, 743 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,439 Speaker 1: protective sister, I am also a mental health professional, which 744 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: only adds to the feeling like I should be able 745 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: to fix them. All of that aside and my work 746 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: as a therapist, I serve primarily children in adolescents and 747 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,720 Speaker 1: feel a great sense of pride and purpose in helping 748 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,240 Speaker 1: others work through their struggles. You too are a constant 749 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: companion on my commute to and from work, and I 750 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: look forward to your episodes every week, almost getting giddy 751 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: when I see the notification on my phone that a 752 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: new episode is available. You too have such a perfect 753 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: yin and yang dynamic in your conversations, and I appreciate 754 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 1: all of the things that your podcast has shed light on, 755 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 1: including the light that it brings to my days when 756 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: other things personally or professionally just seems too sad or tough. 757 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: Keep up the great work, And I really think that 758 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: Oliver could have a shot at being a therapist someday. 759 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm interesting. I much love Sarah interesting, Allie, Ollie, you 760 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 1: could be a therapist or a life coach. Oh God, 761 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: can I just say something right now, Sarah Sharah, that's 762 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: very nice of you, but I'm gonna have to, like 763 00:48:50,800 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: very respectfully decline your suggestion. Gosh, all, let me tell 764 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 1: you if he could, if he'd show up to the sessions, 765 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: let's just start with that right late, he'd be like 766 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: on on a gondola, like like zooming, like yelling at 767 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:21,280 Speaker 1: his kids, trying to do a sessions. But it's interesting 768 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 1: the dynamic here where she is a mental health professional, 769 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 1: albeit working with children, you know, and and adolescents. But 770 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: still I wonder what that that feeling that adds to 771 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: the helplessness of Yeah, I'm trained to help you and 772 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: I fucking can't. Yeah, it's got to be crazy. It's 773 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: like having a child that you wish you could take 774 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: their pain away. You think you wish. It's like it's 775 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: like you and I saw you walk in the house 776 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: the other day. I kind of like made you come 777 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: to your friend's house. I was like, you got to 778 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 1: come over, like what are you doing? And you're like 779 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 1: sitting on the couch whatever. But when you walked in, 780 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: I just had a sense, a energetic sense, not saying 781 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 1: that you were necessarily in that place, but I like 782 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 1: I saw your like I could see like your chest 783 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: was like just like hold holding so much, and I 784 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 1: was like, oh, iish I could just like pull this 785 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,439 Speaker 1: out of my brother. I just want to like take 786 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: it like like like it's a demon, like it's a 787 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: like it's an entity. And I want to I want to. 788 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 1: I want to. I want to just suck it out. 789 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: I want to, like I want to exercise it out. 790 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,799 Speaker 1: I want to do it. Yeah, don't don't, don't say 791 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: suck it out. That is inappropriate. I want to, like no, no, 792 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: I want energetically for it to be sucked out like 793 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 1: I want. I want to, Like I want you know, 794 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: when you have a booger that's like really deep in 795 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: your nose and you like get it and It's one 796 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,399 Speaker 1: of those boogers that you know, when it comes out, 797 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna feel like it's in your brain and then 798 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: your entire sinus is clean. That's how I felt about 799 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: your anxiety when I saw you. I wanted to take 800 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: it and like release it so that you can have 801 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: a full wrath that your like body was empty this right. 802 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: I wanted your body to feel empty of that, and 803 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: and and and and I think as a as a 804 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: sister who cares about a sibling or or a brother, 805 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: whatever it's it is. It's one of those feelings you're like, oh, 806 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 1: I just want to like help that go away. I know, 807 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:44,760 Speaker 1: but but you can only do so much, you know. Yeah, yeah, 808 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: you know. Well, it sounds like the headline is gonna 809 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: be weird. Kate Hudson wants to suck the demonside of 810 00:51:52,960 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 1: her brother. That's a great headline. We will definitely want 811 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 1: to know what we're talking about. So funny. Oh well, Sarah, 812 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,439 Speaker 1: I love how much you care. I love the work 813 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,879 Speaker 1: that you do. We need more mental health professionals out 814 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: there working with children. And yeah, I wish you could 815 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: say that it's getting better, but it's not. Unfortunately, so 816 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, thanks for that, and I hope your sister's 817 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: all right, and thank you for writing in. So this 818 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: was a comment on the Apple podcast, and we thought 819 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: it was it was just nice. So, okay, here we go. 820 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm a sixty six year old woman who has lived 821 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: my life with severe PTSD. I was physically and emotionally 822 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: abused as a young girl, and living a so called 823 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: normal life was just not realistic. I've always felt different, 824 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: but now I am more aware of why thanks to 825 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: inner child work. Oh that's by the way, I'd like 826 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 1: to Actually, we should talk to someone who does all 827 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: that inner child It's interesting. Yeah, I have had I 828 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: have had three siblings. My youngest brother died from a 829 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: drug overdose. I am not close to my living brother. 830 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 1: He's very close to off to having any relationship. My 831 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: sister and I are just now trying to get to 832 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 1: know each other. We all lived in an abusive home. 833 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 1: You guys, and your open, vulnerable relationship makes me feel 834 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: sane and somewhat normal. Love you so much and I 835 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: look forward to every episode. You guys are so fun 836 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: stay beautiful. Oliver, you are a precious man. Katie. Your 837 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: laughs make me laugh. You both are open and always 838 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: trying to be better humans. We all need to be 839 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 1: kind and love sometimes from afar, but kindness and love 840 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: is the answer to living with peace. I love getting 841 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,799 Speaker 1: to know you too. We are all human. We can 842 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,760 Speaker 1: live a life with forgiveness, love and kindness without judgment. 843 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: Enjoy your life with each other. Life's too short for 844 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 1: anything else. Oh oh, that's so wonderful. I mean, well, 845 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,839 Speaker 1: I mean, let me reframe that, you know, and it's 846 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's always nice to hear that even 847 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 1: when you're experiencing and in the work, like you can 848 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 1: tell like she's clearly always you sixty six, you're still working. 849 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we have a friend and she 850 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: has a lot of PTSD, a lot of stuff, and 851 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,240 Speaker 1: she's in her sixties and she's constantly working. And sometimes 852 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: I you know, I'll be talking with her and I'll 853 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: like kind of like it, like stop and be like, 854 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes we don't have to just work so hard, 855 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: like the uphill battle of trying, you know, because we're 856 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: always changing, like our life, we should always be looking 857 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: like there's no moment in your life where something does 858 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 1: it need to be kind of worked through something there's 859 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 1: always something. But when people have really experienced stuff like this, 860 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 1: like abuse, and sometimes you work so hard to feel 861 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: light m hm, that the work in itself is adding 862 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 1: to the to the Sometimes you just need to like, yeah, 863 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: like it's okay to just oh yeah, you can overload 864 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, like you know, to work so hard, 865 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 1: like you know, and and and and I love what 866 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 1: I love what she's saying about peace and forgiveness. I 867 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 1: I I Lately this is like one of the things 868 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: I think about a lot, because we're living in such 869 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: a tumultuous, rigid thinking time, and and I feel like 870 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 1: the one thing that we're forgetting about movement and change 871 00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 1: is forgiveness because it just doesn't cannot exist without that 872 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle. It just cannot. And when she's 873 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 1: it's when she says that, you know, you have to 874 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 1: be able to heart, You have to be able to 875 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,800 Speaker 1: forgive the hardest things in order to find inner peace. 876 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 1: And just because you forgive doesn't mean that you like 877 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, I I say forgiveness like a part of that, 878 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, you can you can sort of marry with 879 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 1: your faith. A lot of people who have more religious 880 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:34,799 Speaker 1: practices or spiritual practices have an easier time for with 881 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 1: forgiveness because they believe that, uh, something you know, are 882 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 1: bigger is going will be Like it's it's like when 883 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: someone says, I forgive you because you're your your your 884 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 1: words and your issues are with God, not with me. 885 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,239 Speaker 1: You know, let God, let God be. You know, that's 886 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,399 Speaker 1: a sort of a very kind of Christian like, let 887 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 1: God be the ultimate right witness. Right, but you can forgive. 888 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 1: But I think that there's still not associate. Well, yeah, 889 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 1: I think I think that. But I think that that's 890 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 1: a really beautiful concept, which is don't take on someone 891 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 1: else's even if it's inflicted you. You even if it's 892 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: even if it's challenged you. To carry that is to 893 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 1: give it power. Right, Well, forgiveness is selfish in a way, 894 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 1: you're doing it for yourself. I mean if you forgive 895 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 1: and let go like forgive, let go like God, you know, 896 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 1: I think then you can find real peace. You know. 897 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 1: I it's it's a it's it's it's like like our 898 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: therapist easier. You know, sounds simple, not simplistic because it's 899 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 1: so hard, but it's it's it's working that process that 900 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 1: I think brings people more lightness of being right, Well, 901 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: there's a root to everything, right, there's a root to 902 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 1: the pain of everyone, and and those who didn't get 903 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 1: to that route to break a cycle will then continue it, yeah, 904 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 1: and then bring it. So it's about forgiving where they 905 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 1: came from, forgiving them based on what their situation was. 906 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 1: And again, it doesn't mean you have to associate and 907 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,919 Speaker 1: become friends or have a new relationship with but it's 908 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: just an awareness a mindfulness of oh wait, they went 909 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 1: through this and didn't have the capacity to sort of 910 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 1: fix themselves, and then they passed it down. I'm going 911 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: to bring this back full circle because we started this 912 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 1: talking about Tina Turner and the abuse that she experienced 913 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 1: and watching her documentary and all of that, and when 914 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 1: she found Buddhism, and that was when she started to 915 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 1: release and forgive and let go and start to look 916 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 1: to let go of the control and the stop reliving 917 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,919 Speaker 1: the story, you know, yep ye. And it's a very 918 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: challenging thing to do. But oh my god, everybody, again, 919 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,439 Speaker 1: we love the email episodes. I know, they're so they're 920 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 1: so there, they're so therapeutic. I I it's like, I 921 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: I want to do this, you know, I guess that's 922 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 1: kind of like the Red Table talk that Jada and 923 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 1: the and right, It's sort of like there's something so 924 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 1: therapeutic about being able to talk about and like lineage. 925 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 1: We lose sight of our lineage. I was doing this 926 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 1: thing with I was I mean, I was looking through 927 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 1: Instagram and and someone had posted about and someone had 928 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 1: posted about this Bill Maher talking about how people actually 929 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: revere their elders in most because they're because of the wisdom, 930 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 1: the life that they live, the knowledge that they have, 931 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 1: and like lineage, and how important it is to keep 932 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 1: those things like you know, we we we need to 933 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 1: like have more reverence for our our siblings and our 934 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 1: older siblings and our younger like how we I don't 935 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm trying to say. I'm trying to say 936 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 1: these these episodes. No, no, I'm trying to just just 937 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 1: give me a these email episodes that that's sort of 938 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: what I get from it. It's like I sort of 939 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 1: get reminded that that our story are our lineage, that's 940 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: the place we need to actually grow from. That's our 941 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 1: launching pad it and no matter how difficult it is, 942 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 1: you need to honor it. I know that sounds crazy 943 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 1: for people who but like honor it and then and then, 944 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 1: and that's where you launch from. And you can launch 945 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: in any direction. You choose any different direction, breaking the cycle. 946 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 1: But like honoring that everything has a story, comes from 947 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: from something, learning about it, understanding it so that you 948 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 1: can make better decisions for yourself. Right, you can either 949 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 1: continue it or break from it, you know, depending on 950 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 1: what that story is. Yeah, for sure, I love you, 951 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 1: my brother, I love you too. That was fun. Sibling 952 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 1: Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson. 953 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 1: Producer is Alison President, editor is Josh Wendish. Music by 954 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 1: Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark. 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