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Use 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: that code. Hello, They're happy Thursday and welcome to another 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: episode of the Chuck Podcast. Our third episode of the week, 38 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: which means this is our big weekend episode of a 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: terrific guest on a topic that I think is getting 40 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: more and more attention. And conversation and it's about screen 41 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: time and our kids. Interviewing Julie shell Foe. She is 42 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: the founder, former journalist, but the founder of an organization 43 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: called Mama Mothers Against Media Addiction. It is modeled after 44 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: Mad Mothers Against Drunk Driving and it is simply that 45 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: just trying to focus on getting screens out of schools, 46 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: not just you know, cell phone bands and schools, which 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: of course is you know, when you think about how 48 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: hard it is to get our two parties to agree 49 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: on anything about the one thing this year where there 50 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: has been bipartisan agreement on a policy idea, it has 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: been cell phone bands and schools, and the early metrics 52 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: in the places that implemented it first, you're already seeing 53 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: at least some evidence of teachers saying students are paying 54 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: more attention and test scores being up, and you know, 55 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: we'll see again it's it's it's a it's a small 56 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: sample size of the of the early adopters of this, 57 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: but it goes further than just phones and schools. As 58 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: I said, you know, this has to do with iPads 59 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: and you know, using devices and you know, what's the line. 60 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: And in this case, Julie makes a pretty uh, a 61 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: pretty credible case as to why even using screens, you know, 62 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: using school iPads, that there's got to be an age 63 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: where we don't do it until, you know, maybe it's, 64 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, ninth grade, maybe it you know, you don't 65 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: get your first device as a teaching tool until eighth 66 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: or ninth grade, something like that. But to at least 67 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: have some sort of marker here, we've seen Ram Emmanuel 68 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: became the first major potential presidential candidate in twenty twenty 69 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: eight to call for a you know, a nationwide band, 70 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: which is what of course Australia is trying to implement, 71 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: I believe in just the last couple of days. So 72 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: it is the relationship with tech and our lives in 73 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: many ways I think is going to continue to be. 74 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the economy is obviously first and foremost 75 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: in any campaign year. Healthcare is always a part of that. 76 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: But after those two issues, the impact of tech on 77 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: all of our lives, whether it's screen time and our kids, 78 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: whether it's AI and the and the fear of AI 79 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: job displacement, the the you know, the impact of Silicon 80 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: Valley and big tech in our lives is something it's 81 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: clear more Americans want more control over this. There's this 82 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: feeling that you don't you know when you the reason 83 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: I think you're seeing this growing bipartisan sort of revolt 84 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: and pushback. I mean, even look at the pushback that's 85 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: taking place inside the Republican Party where Donald Trump is 86 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: saying he wants to sign an executive order that prevents 87 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: any state from trying to put regulation on the AI industry. 88 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: And immediately, you know, they tried to put it in 89 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: the government. You know, they try to get it in 90 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: the bill to reopen the government, and there wasn't the 91 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: votes for that, and there was a total revolt on that. 92 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: But even on this, I mean, you have Ron de Santis, 93 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: the governor Florida, unveiled He's already unveiled his own what 94 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: he calls here, I'm reading it here a citizen's Bill 95 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: of Rights for artificial intelligence. And the proposals he's presenting 96 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: are the types of things that a lot of lawmakers 97 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: left and right would like to be talking about, including 98 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: protecting consumers from from anxiety inducing things like deep fakes, 99 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: data collections, chat box, it's engaging with minors, chatbots posing 100 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: as mental health experts. You know how to deal with 101 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: fraudulent use of our names and likeness. You have the 102 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: revolt of people thinking that these data centers are the 103 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: reasons why our electricity bills are spiking all over the country. 104 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: There certainly appears to be a direct correlation, for instance, 105 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: in the state I live in Virginia. So it is 106 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, I think it is worth noting how much 107 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: this is more than just you know, in some ways, 108 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: sometimes I bring it up as very singular issues, you know, 109 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to well, what are we going to 110 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: do about AI job displacement, what are we going to 111 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: do about these data centers? Or what are we going 112 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: to do about you know, kids in schools. There is 113 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: a larger sort of tech in our lives, right, and 114 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: there is a growing feeling that we have less and 115 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: less choice of how do we how tech interacts with us. 116 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, that's it's almost a universal 117 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: sort of political complaint, right. You will get a revolt 118 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: of the masses when there is a feeling that control 119 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: that they used to have they no longer have, right, 120 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: control that we all used to have. We feel as 121 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: if we no longer have I mean, you know, I 122 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: go back take the there's a there's a there's a 123 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: movement to try to sort of flip the script on 124 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: the Internet. Right, instead of us having to agree to 125 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: terms and conditions to use apps that big tech asks 126 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: us to click yes on that, it's the other way 127 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: around that when they want access to our data, they 128 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: have to ask us permission. Right. It's a little bit 129 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: what the Europeans have been trying to do and their 130 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: ability to regulate interactions between social media or AI and 131 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: the general public. But this is, you know, none of 132 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: this is unpopular, right, And it is interesting to watch 133 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: the Trump administration wanting to barrel through. They've gone they 134 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: have sort of are they they want government and AI 135 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: to be fused together. They bought they accept the premise 136 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: that America has to win the AI race. Right. I 137 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: think a lot of the AI tech founders have convinced 138 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: the Trump administration that if they attempt any restrictions, China 139 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: is going to win the I race. And it's it's 140 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: like it's the plot of the most recent Mission Impossible. Right, 141 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: whoever gets to the finish line first suddenly controls the globe. 142 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: Right is sort of the fear I think that has 143 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: been presented to the Trump administration and may explain why 144 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: they're going along with this idea. And of course I 145 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: think there's a reason there's a lot of us that 146 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: are very skeptical of just racing down this road. You know, 147 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: if you like the way the tech companies introduce social 148 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: media into society, then by all means, let them go 149 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: unrestricted introducing artificial intelligence into society. But if we look 150 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: at what social media has done and we look at 151 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: it as a failure, not a success. And that's the thing, 152 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: is social media been a success or a failure? If 153 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: in some ways there are successful elements to it, there 154 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: are plenty of people that have made money off of it. 155 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: It has certainly allowed more access to influence and attention 156 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: from around the world, but it is destroyed truth. Right. 157 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: Why do we have so much skepticism about truth where 158 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: we're having a debate about what is true and what 159 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: isn't could arguably blame the algorithms and social media. And 160 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: so to me, it's not surprising that you have an 161 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: electorate that it won't take much to fire up against 162 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: the forces of Silicon Valley, because when you start to 163 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: say do you want to have artificial intelligence introduced into 164 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: society in a similar way that social media was. Or 165 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: do you want more guard rails? I promise you you 166 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: probably get seventy to eighty percent supporting that. No, there 167 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: better be more guard rails as we introduce artificial intelligence 168 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: into society than there was during social media. And so 169 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: you put all this together and you can start to 170 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: see and I still think this is not going you know, 171 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: I think these will be debate talking points in twenty 172 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: twenty six. I think you will certainly see various candidates 173 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: test driving some of these things. A citizen bill of 174 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: rights on when it comes to the implementation of artificial 175 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: intelligence will certainly, I think pop up in governor's races 176 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: in particular, and this cycle will have is the big 177 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: cycle for governor's races. I do think it'll be really 178 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: the presidential campaign that'll make this more of a national issue, right, 179 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: because that's when you're gonna you know, there'll be when 180 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: it comes to the job displacement issue, I think that 181 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: is what will feel more front center. And then of 182 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: course we want to see what is the state of 183 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: this economy. Right, this is an economy that is not 184 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: a good economy, but it is being essentially rescued right 185 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: now by AI investment. Right, you have a whole bunch 186 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: of you know, I talked to one smart observer of 187 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: the financial and a trained economist who said to me today, 188 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: actually that we're already in a recession. We just haven't 189 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, the numbers just aren't out yet, and it won't. 190 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: You know, it looks like productivity is doing okay because 191 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: of just how much investment the sort of the six 192 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: or seven largest companies in the world are making into 193 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. It's essentially up and up America's GDP. It's 194 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: sort of propping all these things up. So it's masking 195 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: what is likely a recession for half the country. Right 196 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: there are parts of the you know, there's certainly the 197 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: one percent and those with some savings and some money 198 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: in the stock demartment. They are they are not experiencing 199 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: the recession. But for the for the other half of America, 200 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: they are experiencing recession. Right there. They have costs or 201 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: too much. Right, you have an affordability issue on health care, 202 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: and affordability issue and groceries, and affordability issue on housing. 203 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: These are things that you just can't skip. You can't 204 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: pinch pennies on right, you might be able to you 205 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: might be able to skip some things and try to 206 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: save money in certain places, it's not like you can 207 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: delay paying a health insurance premium and and risk to 208 00:12:55,640 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: go without health care. So this affordability crisis and this 209 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: recessionary feel that those that don't have that are paycheck 210 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: to paycheck, that don't have a bunch of savings in 211 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: the stock market is pretty acute, which transitions me pretty 212 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: well to what was, you know, another debacle by Trump 213 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: and this economy and his rally in Pennsylvania. Every time 214 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: this administration over the last couple of weeks, frankly, it's 215 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: been about two or three months that they try to 216 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: get you know, it's clear his own staff realizes they 217 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: have at least they have a political problem, if not 218 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: a real problem. Right, they know they have a political 219 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: problem messaging on the economy. And how do I know 220 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: that they all know? Because JD. Vance on Wednesday morning 221 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:50,239 Speaker 1: basically was desperately trying to re explain Trump's comments from 222 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania where he started calling it a hoax and then 223 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: he started, I mean to me, he went down this 224 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: road again where okay, well, you know, you know, your 225 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: little girl doesn't need thirty seven dollars, they can handle one. 226 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: Your child doesn't need fifty pencils, they can just have 227 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: one or two. It is such a tone deaf Let 228 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: them eat cake, mindset. Right, It's as if we have 229 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: President Marie Antoinette here, and it really rings as super 230 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: out of touch. And it's clear you of people like 231 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: Jade Vance realizing how bad this is. So he tweets 232 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: this morning, which is just the fun. I'm gonna read 233 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: his tweet, and then Joe Biden's insane policies left American 234 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: families unable to afford a decent living in their own country. 235 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: Through tax cuts, better paying jobs, and investment in American industry, 236 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: prisoner Trump is making America affordable again for working families, 237 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: one step at a time. Right. They're trying so hard 238 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: to explain this economy, but they're making the same mistake 239 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: that the Biden White House made, which is, hey, you 240 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: you feel like this economy and good, You're wrong. This 241 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: economy is doing We're doing really well, and it's healing, 242 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: and this is happening, and this is happening. You know. 243 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: In Biden's case, he kept leaning on, look at all 244 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: the new jobs that are being created, look at all 245 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: the money that's being invested. Well, in some ways, Trump 246 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: is trying to make the Trump and Vance are trying 247 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: to make the same case. Hey, you know, we're spending 248 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: all this money and we cut your taxes, and oh, 249 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: by the way, look at the stock market and look 250 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: at all these deals that we're doing, but pay no 251 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: attention to how tariffs are increasing your every day your 252 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: everyday bills. So the trumpet, the Trump White House is 253 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: walking into appears to be the same trap as Biden there, 254 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, want to tell the public, don't don't believe 255 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: what you're feeling. That's essentially right. It was essentially the 256 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: message that Biden was communicating on the economy, that Harris 257 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: was communicating on the economy, until they realized now they 258 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: had to be they had to sort of do a 259 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: little I feel your pain. You know, Vance here trying 260 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: to do a little bit of I feel your pain. 261 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: But Trump wasn't going to go there under and if anything, 262 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: he sounded dismissive and defensive. 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Miami Dade County's budget is bigger 289 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: than many states, you know, probably nearly half the states. 290 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: It is that large and complicated a county, the City 291 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: of Miami and the City of Miami mayor. City of 292 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: Miami is a is one of thirty plus incorporated cities 293 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: within Miami Dade County, but it does have the brand 294 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: City of Miami, so is the Mayor of Miami, you know, 295 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: when which is for those you know, there's the mayor 296 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: of Miami Dade County and then there's the mayor of 297 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: the City of Miami. So this was a runoff for 298 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: the mayor of the City of Miami. Now in the 299 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: City of Miami, it's it is there is a strong, 300 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: large Cuban American population, and you've had nearly a generation 301 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: of Cuban Republicans who have won that mayor's rate won 302 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: that office over and over by the way the office itself, 303 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: it's considered a weak mayor position. It's a part time job. 304 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: If you recall, the previous mayor of Francis Suarez had 305 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: all sorts of jobs, private sector jobs that he was 306 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: that he held while simultaneously being mayor. He got a 307 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: little brazen about it, so it gathered a lot more attention. 308 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: But it's considered a part time job, and it is 309 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: allowed to have other jobs. But the point is is 310 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: that that's how quote unquote small the job is. And it's 311 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: and like I said, it's a weak mare system, which 312 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: means you're just you've got the title, but you're essentially no. 313 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: No had the same amount of power as a city 314 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: council person that's elected. So but symbolically it's a big deal. 315 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: And it's the first time Democrats have won the mayor's 316 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: race in over thirty years. Now, it is worth noting 317 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris actually carried the city of Miami even as 318 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump carried the county of Miami Dade, which in 319 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: itself was a surprising development. So but the margin that 320 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: the Democrat won this race and the fact that it 321 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: was the first time in thirty years, and oh, by 322 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: the way, there was a special election that no one 323 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: was paying attention to in a state house seat in 324 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: Georgia that flipped a twenty plus point Trump district that flipped. 325 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: We're starting it's the same pattern. We'sa on Tennessee seven 326 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: and that special same pattern we saw in twenty twenty five. 327 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: There's somewhere between a ten to fifteen to in some 328 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: places twenty point overperformance by Democrats. Now, why is this happening? One, 329 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: you have fired up Democratic voters. Two Democratic voters in general. 330 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: Are Democrats now have the more reliable voters the voters 331 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: you know we're divided on education. It's another way of saying, 332 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, who's paying attention to the minutia more so? 333 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: And who's who the voters that parachute in for presidential elections. Well, 334 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: the Democrats now have the line's share of the voters 335 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: that are paying attention to all political minutia versus Republicans 336 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: are the ones that we'll see it turnout spike now 337 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: in presidential years. It's a total reverse of what it was. 338 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: What it was for the eighties, nineties and even the 339 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: first part of the twenty first century. But we have 340 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: now seen this is as as sort of Trump created 341 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: a realignment of the party the way he did. The 342 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: less reliable voter who used to be more likely voting 343 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: Democrat than Republican. Now that less likely voter more likely 344 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: votes Republican the Democrat. Which is why Democrats are overperforming 345 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: in all these special elections, all these non presidential elections, 346 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: whether it was the Supreme Court race in Wisconsin right 347 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: after Trump got elected, or it's what we just saw 348 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: earlier this week in the city of Miami or in 349 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: the state of Georgia, the everyday regular voter is just 350 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: showing up and that it is benefiting Democrats. Then you 351 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: throw in what is a sort of a growing demoralized 352 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: base of the Republican Party. Right, it's best expressed of 353 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: watching what's happening in the House, where you have more 354 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: and more Republicans getting cranky about not having any plan 355 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: on healthcare. Apparently Mike Johnson seemed to hint that, oh, 356 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're going to have a healthcare plan and 357 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: really soon, and you're like, you are, you've had let's see, 358 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: when did Obamacare pass. Obamacare passed in March of twenty ten, 359 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: so they've had Republicans have had fifteen years to come 360 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: up with a healthcare plan alternative, and what they just 361 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: in another week they'll finally have one. Let's just say, 362 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: there's quite a bit of skepticism on that, and it's 363 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: deserved skepticism. And at this point, it doesn't look like 364 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: they're going to get a healthcare compromise before the end 365 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: of the year. But I'll be honest, I think it's 366 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: gonna come. I told you I think in the earlier 367 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: episode earlier this week, the outlines of a potential compromise 368 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: that will probably be more to the liking of Democrats 369 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: and Republicans is coming together in the House, and at 370 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: some point it will take Donald Trump just saying go 371 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: ahead and pass it. I'll support it, and I'll give 372 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: you cover. That's still but we are now to the 373 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: point where it looks like these are going to expire 374 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: and they're going to have to retroactively end up giving 375 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: giving people the subsidies back. I am, you know, maybe 376 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: I'll be eating crow on this, but I'm still convinced 377 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: that something's going to pass. These subsidies are going to 378 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: get extended a year or two. I think the only 379 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: thing Republicans have effectively said no to is the full 380 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: as a three year extension, which is technically what Democrats 381 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: have been asking for. But somewhere in the in the 382 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: two year range one to two year range, it is coming. 383 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: It's just at what point does Trump cry uncle? And 384 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: at this point it's not clear that he's ready to 385 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: cry uncle just yet. Before I get to the interview 386 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: with Julie Chelfo and Mothers Against Media Addiction and Mama 387 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: as the acronym spells, I want to just weigh in 388 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: on two things that are sort of business business see 389 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: issues that I'm actually particularly with one issue, I want 390 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: to hear from you. I want to hear from the 391 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: listeners and viewers on two things. One do you pay 392 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: attention to the prediction markets i e. Polymarket or Calshi. Two? 393 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: If you do, what is it that you pay attention to? 394 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: Is cultural predictions? Is it sports predictions? Is it political predictions? Three? 395 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: Do you participate? You know so, I will make a 396 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: full confession. I participated for the very first time on 397 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: the Calshi markets over the weekend, and it had to 398 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: do with the I was doing it simply to see 399 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: if anybody was leaking the information of the college football 400 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: playoff bracket So on Saturday, I sort of for the 401 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: first time, you know, I signed up for a Calshi account, 402 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: and I bought shares of Miami making the playoff, and 403 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: I bought shares of twenty five cents, which really meant that, 404 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: you know, essentially what the market was saying, they have 405 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: they have a one and four shot of making the 406 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: playoff or so. In the prediction markets, it was said 407 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: Notre Dame was in the ninety nineties, it was like 408 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: ninety two ninety three percent tile and Alabama was in 409 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: the mid seventies seventy four or seventy five percentile. So 410 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: I did it because I was mostly curious to see 411 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: if this was going to leak and we were going 412 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: to see people try to manipulate the prediction markets, like 413 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: we saw with the Nobel Peace Prize, where it turned 414 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: out the information got out. I think it wasn't an 415 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: official leak. It was I think somebody hacked into a 416 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: website and saw a website preview before folks knew, and 417 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you saw the prediction markets move 418 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: as if they knew something. As it turned out, they 419 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: did know something. And I just wanted to see if 420 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: somebody was going to do that. So I was as 421 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: I was waiting for the college football playoff, I was 422 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: watching this happen and you would see a lot of volatility, 423 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: but it wasn't a hundred percent, you know. It was 424 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: like now people think they know, but they don't know. Right, 425 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: you could see how that works. It gave me some reassurance. 426 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: I was glad to see it. You know that something 427 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, whether it leaking or somebody wasn't trying to 428 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: gain the system. And obviously I ended up making a 429 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: couple of bucks on how that worked. I actually was 430 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: monitoring it was I was I assumed that Miami's that 431 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: the share price of the Miami prediction was going to 432 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: go up sooner than it did, Like it didn't. Really. 433 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: It's clear the prediction markets did not believe Miami was 434 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: was going to get in, and that to me is 435 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: a reflection of what the conversation was. Right, If if 436 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: nobody has information, then they're basing it on sort of 437 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: the zeitgeist. Right. But I bring this up because recently 438 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: CNN signed to deal with Calshi where they're going to 439 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: in some form it start including or noting what the 440 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 1: prediction markets are saying about topics they might be covering. 441 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: So for instance, yesterday we saw the Federal Reserve cut 442 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: interest rates. Well, that was a market you could bet 443 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: on or you could you know, prediction marketing there, and 444 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: it was it was in the seventies over the last 445 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: you know, a few days, and then it got up 446 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: today eighty five, ninety, et cetera. But as much as 447 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: I do enjoy sports gambling, okay, you've heard me reference 448 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: it before, some of you know I do football picks 449 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: for Tony Kornheiser on his podcast, I fully confess to 450 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: enjoying it, but I've been extraordinarily uncomfortable with the idea 451 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: of betting on politics or betting on elections. I haven't 452 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: ruled it. I'm not I'm not trying to be, you know, 453 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: sort of a school barm about this, but it is 454 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm not yet comfortable with it. And I'm curious what 455 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: you guys think, and I'm asking you send me, send questions, 456 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: put some comments in the comment section, or go ahead 457 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: and send us a send us comment via ask Chuck, 458 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 1: and we'll we'll dive into it next week. You know, 459 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of fear out there that do 460 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: you you know, at what point I believe in the 461 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: wisdom of crowds and at the same time I don't 462 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: want to see crowds manipulate an outcome, right, And you 463 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: know what is that line? You know, what should be 464 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: something that is okay, it's okay to that, and what 465 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: is something that is should we really be betting on this? 466 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: You know, I'll give you an example. I'm gonna let 467 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: me put up a pull up a few a few 468 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: things that they offer up that I some things that 469 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: make sense and others that don't. So, for instance, Calsh 470 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: will allow you to bet on what the Federal reserves 471 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: here J. Powell will say during his December press conference, 472 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: and the choices are, will he attribute terror inflation to 473 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: the tariffs? Will he says if he says dot plot 474 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: at his December twenty twenty five posts, you know, meeting 475 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: of the Federal Reserve, that would be somehow a win here. 476 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: If if he uses if he refers to the adp 477 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: AS report, apparently that would somehow be something you could 478 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: win a bet on it. There's sort of like it's 479 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: one thing to bet on whether there'll be an interest 480 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: rate cut, which again you know, I'm uncomfored you know 481 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: the State of Virginia. Let me give you an example. 482 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: The State of Virginia does not allow in its sports 483 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: mobile app for people to gamble on who might win 484 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: an award. Like if I wanted to gamble on the 485 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: on who wins the Heisman Trophy, State of Virginia wouldn't 486 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: do that. They are very strict. And how what they 487 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: approved for gambling, and that was games of chance, right, 488 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: And and a sporting event in some ways is something 489 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: that isn't knowable beforehand versus in theory there is somebody 490 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: that will know the answer to who won the Heisman 491 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: Trophy before it is announced, versus an actual sporting event 492 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: that we're all watching in real time, right. And so 493 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: they have decided not to legalized bets on outcomes that 494 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: some committee or group of people may know in advance. 495 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: And that's I think the line here. You got to 496 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: ask yourself, like, look, you can bet on who will 497 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: be the Democratic nominee, or excuse me, buy shares of 498 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: who you think will be the Democratic nominee. You can 499 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: buy shares of who you think Trump will nominate to 500 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: be fed chair. Okay, but how do we know somebody 501 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: within Trump's circle isn't gaming this and isn't going to, 502 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, try to make money on this with quote 503 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: insider information. Right in the actual financial markets, it is 504 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: illegal to insider trade, right, And there's no doubt there'll 505 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: be some Certainly the rules about insider trading will apply 506 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,239 Speaker 1: to this if it's ever if it's ever shown. But 507 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: then there are things like when will Trump announce his 508 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: new chair the Federal Reserve? So this is something that 509 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: you can will it be before December twentieth, Well, that's 510 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: sixth sense? Will it be before or the end of 511 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: the calendar year? That's twenty five percent? Believe that Will 512 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: it be before January fifteenth another seventy two percent? And 513 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: then you know, I guess everybody would get their money 514 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: back if none of those hit, or everybody loses if 515 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 1: none of those hit. But if you're you know, if 516 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: you already know the answer to this, or you're long 517 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: on something and you've got access to Trump, and you 518 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: know what, if we have a president who's extraordinarily transactional 519 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: and who's open to somebody financially lobbying them, which is 520 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: a more polite way of saying, Brian, And you know 521 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I have no idea whether we would 522 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: ever have an American president who would be transactional like 523 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: that on things like pardons or whatever. But that's the 524 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: part of this that I will admit gives me some pause. 525 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: There's some parts of this that feels like the Democratic 526 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: nominee in Texas that looking at those markets, that's interesting 527 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: of interest to me. In case you're wondering right now, 528 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: Tall Rico is fifty six cents and Jasmine Crockett is 529 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: at forty two cents. So that's not what the polling 530 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: says right now, but this is what betters or predictors, 531 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: I guess you would say, believe is going to be 532 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: the outcome of that. And so look, they've been betting 533 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: on elections in the UK, you could bet on American 534 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: elections and overseas markets from before. But I guess what 535 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm getting at here is if we're going to go 536 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: down this road, there probably needs to be a bit 537 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: more regulation around it. There probably needs to be sort 538 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: of a line drawn in the sand that is, hey, 539 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: this is a that's a manipulation. That's too that's too 540 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: much of a thing that can be manipulated. So take 541 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: this question that you can bet on the following on 542 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: Calshi who will visit mar A Lago BEFO twenty six, 543 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: And you can just and there's all sorts of choices 544 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: that you can buy shares of Benjamin Nett Yahoo. That's 545 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: according to Kaoshi that that's the leading prediction on that 546 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: one at eighty seven cents out of a dollar. NBS 547 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: of Saudi Arabia that's at thirteen, he's second on the list. 548 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: Zelenski's at ten cents. He's third on the list. Sam 549 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: Altman's at seven, Brittany Mahomes is at five, Jamie Diamond 550 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: is at five, Jerome Pals at four, Kim Kardashian is 551 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: at two. You know, it's kind of silly, right, But 552 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: here's something else. There was a huge spike for net 553 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: Yahoo over the last day or two, and I think 554 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: there's an assumption that he's going to somehow make his 555 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: way out here. He's desperate for Trump to continue to 556 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: lobby for a pardon on his behalf with the is 557 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: with the President of Israel, so there may be some 558 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: motivation there. But it's one of those things that feels 559 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: like somebody already knows the answer, but the public didn't 560 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: see it, so we have a betting market on it. Right. Look, 561 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: we're a free country. If you choose to do this 562 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: with your money, it's your choice to do this with 563 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: the money. The question I have is how comfortable are 564 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: you with news organizations incorporating this into their coverage, which 565 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: is a decision seeing in may You know, we already 566 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: have a lot of people that I think correctly complain 567 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: that our campaign coverage is always focused on the polls, right, 568 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: that it's horse race coverage. Will this make all political 569 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: and policy coverage horse race coverage? You know? Are we 570 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: going to see stories about the debate over extending healthcare subsidies? 571 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, the prediction markets, well, they 572 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: think there's going to be a deal, and that there'll 573 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: be a deal to extend these subsidies sometime by the 574 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: end of January. There may not be any reporting that 575 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: says that it may be true, it may not be true. 576 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: Is that stuff worth incorporating in reporting if you're seeing 577 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: it and look, in fairness to them, let's see how 578 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: they use it, let's say how they incorporate it. But again, 579 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: I do this more as you can hear in my voice, 580 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: as somebody who again I am, I am. I'm a 581 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: bit libertarian on the vices, right. You want to legalize cannabis, 582 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: you want to, you know, put a high age element 583 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: on it, legalize other vices. I'm gambling things like that. 584 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm you know that's your business, right, I'm I am, 585 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 1: I am. I am an empathetic libertarian here. The question 586 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: is whether our political debate, our policy debates, are they 587 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: going to be enhanced or harmed by the casinification of news. 588 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: So obviously you can hear my hesitance on this, you 589 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: can hear my concern on this, but I'm not unpersuadable 590 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: on this. So that's why I am This is one 591 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: of those I'd love to hear what many of you 592 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: think on this, whether any of you have enough of 593 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: an opinion to express it to me if you don't 594 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: want to put your name on and I get that too, 595 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: by the way, on this, so please do shoot me 596 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: an ope on this. Where are you on these prediction markets? 597 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: You know, I am a gawker of them. I'm fascinated 598 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: to see a lot of times it's just representative of 599 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: what the zeitgeist is already saying, or what the polling 600 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: is indicating. Or what reporting has already been out there. 601 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: So you know, for instance, they've got a market of 602 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: which world leaders will be out by the end of 603 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 1: the year. Which world leader do you think is number 604 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: one on their list? If you said Nicholas Maduro, you'd 605 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: be right, right, Well, that's common sense, But there's actually 606 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 1: it's only trading at eleven cents, which means it's essentially 607 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: the prediction markets believe there's only a one in essentially 608 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 1: a one and ten chance that Maduro is out before 609 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: the end of this calendar year. Does that matter to you? 610 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: Does that at all? And here's the thing. It may 611 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: have no impact whatsoever, But the minute I reported that, 612 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 1: have I planted a seat in your head and somehow 613 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: created a form of sort of news consumption bias, if 614 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: you will, right, So, anyway, it's that's the beauty of 615 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 1: this format is is we can sort of throw out 616 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 1: this idea. I'm not going to sit here and pretend 617 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: that I have concerns, I'm intrigued, and I'm rapped and 618 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: it's and I have my own hesitations and all of 619 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: those things. 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Makes so 651 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 1: much sense that our founder's prioritize representation before anything else. 652 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: Got me thinking, could this be the basis for a 653 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: limited series or film? Most Americans don't know this history. 654 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: In dramatizing it, could it make structural reform like a 655 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 1: return to our roots? Man, Austin, what a terrific idea? 656 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: You know, you know it's interesting, I assume, and I 657 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,439 Speaker 1: hope you're watching the Ken Burns American Revolution series. It's 658 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: fantastic and it's certainly also very you know, there's nothing 659 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: nothing harder than trying to put together a documentary like 660 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: he does, essentially without any archival material, archive video, things 661 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: like that, pictures, et cetera. It's not easy. But a 662 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: dramatic a limited series on the essentially the fight over 663 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: the Constitution and you know, the failure of the Articles 664 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: of Confederation and and sort of yes, and we could 665 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: create some drama. You get some characters. Ben Franklin's a 666 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: great character. Thomas Jefferson's a great character. John Adams is right. 667 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: We know a little bit something about all of them. 668 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,919 Speaker 1: Some of them have been portrayed. I mean the Jot 669 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: Adams series and that that HBO put on some fifteen 670 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: or so years ago with Paul Giamatti is just one 671 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: that if you all consider yourself a history junkie, then 672 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: you've already seen it. But I love this idea, Austin. 673 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: I think you're right because I think there's there was 674 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: plenty of drama. There was plenty of debate, you know, 675 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: and you can have different episodes. You know where the 676 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: cliffhanger is, you know, you know there was a cliffhanger 677 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: and what the official language was going to be. Right, 678 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 1: there's a cliff you know, all these little cliffhangers about 679 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: what were we going to be as a country, you know, 680 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: all those things. I think there would be interest in this. 681 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: And again we've seen this, you know, his historical dramas 682 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: have done well. And look, I have a I believe 683 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: that part of you know, I think we need to 684 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: offer more ways for people to learn how our system works. 685 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: Not everybody wants to read a book about it. Not 686 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: everybody wants to read a textbook about it. Not everybody 687 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: wants to listen to ten hour podcast about it. So 688 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,439 Speaker 1: whatever way you get that into the ecosystem, and your 689 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: idea is a good one of sort of dramatizing you know, 690 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: the fights over the founding and the fights that took place, 691 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: so that people can see the compromises. You know that 692 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: the final the decisions that were made were all compromises, right, 693 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 1: it was. It was never designed to be perfect. So anyway, 694 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 1: it's a it's a terrific idea. Hey Netflix, are you listening, Austin? 695 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: And I would like to pitch this as a as 696 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: a TV series, Austin, I promise if for some reason 697 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 1: we get this opportunity. I'll hook you up, don't. Next 698 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: question comes from Michael Laurry says, Hey, Chuck, what were 699 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,399 Speaker 1: your best and worst movies of the year. I also 700 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: love your thoughts on ken Burn's American Revolution series. Aha, 701 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: I already gave you that one. What's your favorite of 702 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 1: his work? And which upcoming projects are you most excited about? 703 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: African American History, LBJA, Baseball, Stand Up the Mormons. Lastly, 704 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: if Netflix is buying Warner Brothers, do you think David 705 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: Ellison heard his chances by criticizing the process and highlighting 706 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 1: ties as a selling point. So IM like a small 707 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 1: confession about movies. These days, I watch fewer movies than ever, 708 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: and I think part of it is I am trapped 709 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: in the joy of episodic television that we have right 710 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: we are living we are still living in the golden 711 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: age of this, you know, whether it's man I am. 712 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 1: I'm digging plorabis and I'm still curious where we're headed here, 713 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: Although I have a My latest theory on plorabis is 714 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 1: that it's a are you sure we want one collective 715 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: intelligence about who we are? Right? I don't know. I 716 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: felt like maybe maybe it's commentary on artificial intelligence. By 717 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: the way, I'm an episode behind, so no spoilers on 718 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: this front. And my other confession is when I travel, 719 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: that's when I kind of junk out on movies. So 720 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: I just watched it. I've been traveling this week, so 721 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: I finally watched the Naked Gun reboots. Eh, you know, 722 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: I there was some fun grace notes. I appreciated the effort, 723 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 1: but there's a part of me that feels it's almost 724 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 1: too far away, too long ago, like we lost an 725 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: entire you know, that was arguably three pop culture generations 726 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: ago that the last Naked Gun movie came out, So 727 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: I think, you know it, it's a you know, it's 728 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: interesting being in the later stages now of middle aged right, 729 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: which is right, I've got grown kids. But you know, 730 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: it's funny about the movie industry. There's two there's two 731 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: demographic groups that actually go to movie theaters. Apparently one 732 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:26,240 Speaker 1: is teenagers, so that's that explains all the Marvel movies 733 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: and all that other stuff. And the other is empty nesters, 734 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: which is why you get right now, we you know, 735 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, over the last fifteen years, it was a 736 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: lot of baby boomer nostalgia. Now we're getting we're starting 737 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: to get gen X nostalgia on this front. So as 738 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: for my favorite ken Burns, look, I've seen a lot 739 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: of them. I enjoyed, you know, I'm going to do 740 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: a deep cut here. I enjoyed the Prohibition one because 741 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: that was something I knew the least. It was one 742 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 1: of those gaps for me, so it filled in a 743 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 1: lot of gaps. So I really enjoyed that one. And Baseball, 744 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: of course, was I think transformational. You know, it was 745 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: in the Civil War, and obviously the Civil War was 746 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 1: his essentially the masterpiece that gave him the currency to 747 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:21,439 Speaker 1: do all of this. Right, he is America's historian. And 748 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: what I had really admire about what ken Burns has 749 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: pulled off in the American Revolution. I mean, think about all, 750 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, if he had asked me, well, what do 751 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,399 Speaker 1: you think I'm going to do the American Revolution, I'd 752 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,439 Speaker 1: be like, oh, boy, right after these debates that went 753 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: through sixteen nineteen versus seventeen seventy six, these competing commissions 754 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 1: and all of this, and like, boy, good luck trying 755 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: to make something that everybody can feel comfortable with. And 756 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: lo and behold he seemed to make something that you know, 757 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: he has not gotten. He has somehow avoided stepping on 758 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: too many political landminds. You know he's been I think 759 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: it's been very straightforward, and I have found it. You know, 760 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: I've certainly learned some things that I you know, you 761 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: think you know, uh, and there are more things that 762 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: you learn there. So it's uh. I really admire his 763 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 1: ability to have success with this in this polarized culture 764 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: that we lived in. We had to give him some 765 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: special award, like, I don't know how you did it, 766 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: but congratulations, you did something that we don't seem to 767 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:36,800 Speaker 1: have any politicians capable of doing. So I owe you 768 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 1: a few more movies. I'll does do you care that 769 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:46,800 Speaker 1: I watched the Mission Impossible Final Reckoning movies? I will 770 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 1: confess that, you know, I I it's a it's a 771 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: I always I designate. Like I say, most of my 772 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 1: movie watching now is when I'm want to be sort 773 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,720 Speaker 1: of if I'm on a long flight and I'm trying 774 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: to pass the time. It's in fact, Mission and the 775 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: Mission Impossible series in the Jurassic Park series, right, those 776 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: are some I consider those guilty pleasures, meaning you know, 777 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: I know you know what you're gonna get. They are 778 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,240 Speaker 1: what they are. I find them to be the perfect 779 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:24,959 Speaker 1: airplane movies. So I did venture into both of those. 780 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 1: But I owe you a better Michael, I owe you 781 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 1: a better a better list of movies I like this year, 782 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: So cot me some slack on that, all right. Next 783 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:44,399 Speaker 1: question comes from Yavari from Finland. He says, hey, check 784 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,280 Speaker 1: listener from Finland here loving the longer episodes, keep them coming. 785 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: The Senate primaries in Texas are turning out to be 786 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: quite interesting. Oh yes they are. How bloody do you 787 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: think they can get? For example, between all Read and Tolerigo. Well, 788 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: in fairness, I think I did not answer this question 789 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: in a timely fashion, because, as we now know, it's 790 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,359 Speaker 1: no longer all Read in tall Rico. It is tall 791 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 1: Rico and Crockett. If you are a listener to every episode, 792 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: you may have already heard my take on that. I'll 793 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,479 Speaker 1: give you that in a second, but let me finish 794 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,479 Speaker 1: your question. You noted between all Read and tall Rico, 795 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 1: you saw neither one seems to be the type to 796 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: knife each other that much. But she never know then 797 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 1: on the Republican side, now that Hunt has jumped in 798 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: the Republican side. Is there a lane for him in 799 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 1: your opinion? Also, could you give a brief outlook on 800 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: how Montana looks for the Dems in twenty twenty six. 801 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 1: I have a couple of friends there and they seem 802 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 1: optimistic about Russell Cleveland seating Ryan Zinky. That's in a 803 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: house race. I believe that Zinc is running their kind 804 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: regards Lea Fari, let me start with the Texas thing. 805 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: Like I said, I answered it before. Obviously, look, Jasmine 806 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,720 Speaker 1: Crockett essentially drove colinra al Read out of the race, 807 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: and it was pretty clear three way primary was going 808 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: to create a runoff, that there was enough people that 809 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 1: got to all Red convinced him to run for something 810 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: that's the remnant of his old house seat there Texas, 811 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,439 Speaker 1: Because you know, if Democrats Republicans are already with that three 812 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: way race, you know that's destined for a runoff, which 813 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 1: means even more money of them throwing mud at each other, 814 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 1: and it's an internal fight. You know, it did seem 815 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:20,720 Speaker 1: to be a self inflicted wound for Democrats to also 816 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,919 Speaker 1: have a large enough primary with prominent candidates that would 817 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 1: guarantee a runoff on their end. You know why, you know, 818 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: why not take advantage of the situation of Republicans And 819 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: so now you do have a situation where I all 820 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 1: want to agree to get out. It's Jasmine Crockett and 821 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 1: James Tollerico. And as I implied history, I think this 822 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: is going to be a race that is less about 823 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: ideology and more about style. Right. You're essentially this is, 824 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, how much do you want a fighter and 825 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: how much do you want to uniter? Right? You're going 826 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: to have the pastor versus the fighter, right, and what 827 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:59,240 Speaker 1: is the mindset of the electorate? And if like I said, 828 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 1: I went pretty long on this and yesterday's episode, so 829 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: I'll keep this one shorter. But essentially, I think this 830 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: is going to be a noisy primary on the Democratic side. 831 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: But I don't know if it's going to be a 832 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: nasty primary, right. I think both could pay a penalty, 833 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, and how they go about it, right, Tyla 834 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: Rico has a as a brand that if he gets 835 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 1: too negative or sort of practices sort of conventional old 836 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: school negative politics, that could boomerang on him because he's 837 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: trying to be a different type of a different type 838 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: of candidate, a different type of Democrat and I think 839 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: Crockett are already sort of you know, she's she's a 840 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:54,320 Speaker 1: bit polarizing, certainly in a general electorate, and she needs 841 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 1: a United Democratic Party behind her if she wins this primary. 842 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: So I definitely agree with your tam that if it 843 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: had been all read Tolrico and Crockett had decided not 844 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: to run, that that would have been a that would 845 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 1: have been a patty cake primary a little bit, you know, 846 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: I think it would have been sock. The curiosity I 847 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 1: have about the Democratic side of this is will outside 848 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:20,399 Speaker 1: groups sort of be the ones to throw all the insults? Right? Well, 849 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: we see a bunch of outside Democratic money essentially try 850 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 1: to damage Crockett, because I mean, that's what I think 851 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 1: is most likely you do have. You're not going to 852 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,280 Speaker 1: get the party leadership to admit that they prefer publicly 853 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,840 Speaker 1: Tallerico over Crockett, but their body language is going to 854 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: come across that way. There's just a perception that she 855 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: can't win the general. I do find the story. I'm 856 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: not sure it's interesting that the NRSC decided to take 857 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: a victory lap and say, hey, look what we did 858 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 1: and try to take credit for talking Crockett into running, 859 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: and of course noticed this story about you know how 860 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 1: the NRSC is sort of taking credit for getting for 861 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: essentially coaxing Crockett into the race. Meaning they did some 862 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: early polling. They were curious to see if Crockett had 863 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: any traction. They tested her and they realized that she 864 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: was actually the best known, that she would do the 865 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 1: best in a Democratic primary, just sort of implying that 866 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: she had the highest name recognition of anybody that could 867 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 1: possibly run. And you know, John Cornan is not hidden 868 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: his belief that he thinks that that Crockett would be 869 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 1: easier to defeat than anybody else. He faces. Problem for 870 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: John Cornan is I do not see a scenario where 871 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: he's the nominate, and I'm mildly surprised he chose to run. 872 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: You know, I had a thesis and I think I 873 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 1: shared it, and so I will look, I was wrong 874 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 1: about the following. I thought he certainly was behaving like 875 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 1: somebody who was buying time from everybody, saying that he 876 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 1: let me give me to the filing deadline to prove 877 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: that I can win this thing. Well, then Wesley Hunt 878 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,320 Speaker 1: got in. It got complicated. But you know, while Cornan 879 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 1: certainly has done a good job raising Paxton's negative was 880 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: his early TV negative TV ads. It hasn't accrued to 881 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:16,399 Speaker 1: Cornan's benefit. And you know, there's there's certainly he just right. 882 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: He feels like he's just a fish out of water. 883 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,439 Speaker 1: And where this Republican Party is these days, and it's 884 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 1: as if the electorate knows that Cornan is not one 885 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: of them. Right, he is getting a strong thirty thirty 886 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,280 Speaker 1: two percent, which is about what's left of the Bush 887 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 1: wing of the Republican Party nationally, and it's about what's 888 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: left inside the state of Texas. Now, if Cornyn were 889 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: the general election of the Republican nominee, there's no doubt. 890 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 1: I think he's a favorite no matter who he would face, 891 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 1: whether it was Tylerico or Crockett there So obviously the 892 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,919 Speaker 1: Republican primary is going to be scorched earth, just scorched earth. 893 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 1: But you know, nothing's really moved. What I'm curious about 894 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 1: what is going to move Cornan's numbers up. I know 895 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: what everybody believes will move Paxton's numbers down. What moves 896 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 1: Cornyn's numbers up? And in some ways he may have 897 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 1: made a mistake and the nrsc is bragging about getting 898 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: Jasmine Crockett in. But if Republican voters are convinced that 899 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: anybody can beat Crockett, then they don't have to hold 900 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: their nose and support Cornyn because he's quote unquote the 901 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 1: only one that can prevent a Democrat from winning the Senate. 902 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: See So I just find it interesting that the NRSC 903 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: is beating their chest when they actually that if Crockett 904 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: is the center of attention in the Democratic primary, that 905 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 1: actually may send the message to Republican primary voters that hey, 906 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,360 Speaker 1: Democrats are going to nominate somebody who can win a 907 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 1: general election, so you don't have to worry about supporting 908 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 1: the mushy moderate John Cornett. And there's another reason why 909 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 1: Cornyn may regret that there is a competitive primary at all. 910 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: In the Democratic primary. It's a you know, Democratic you know, 911 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,919 Speaker 1: if there wasn't a competitive Democratic primary vote, you would 912 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,800 Speaker 1: have seen some that might vote in a Democratic primary 913 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 1: choose to vote in the Republican primary. There's a little 914 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: bit of choice in Texas, and he may cost himself 915 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: some potential sort of moderate Democratic voters who might have 916 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 1: if there really wasn't a competitive Democratic primary, they may 917 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: have done that so look, you are right to point 918 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 1: out those Texas primaries. It's certainly why why we're already 919 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 1: have identified the Texas primary night as the next night 920 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: we go live with election results in twenty twenty six. 921 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: That is going to be as consequential of a primary 922 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: night as there is in deciding whether or not Democrats 923 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: do have a serious chance at picking up the Senate. 924 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: All right, I'm sinking one more question before we get 925 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 1: into my little college football preview for the weekend. It 926 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 1: comes from Brian from Sterling, Virginia, says love the Todd cast, 927 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: especially the World War One discussions. Here's a favorite historical 928 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: what if of mine. What if arch Duke Ferdinand's driver 929 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 1: hadn't taken a wrong turn, Sorryjevo, placing the air to 930 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 1: the Austrio Hungarian throne right in front of Gabrielle prince Hip, 931 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 1: the guy who shot him. Without that fateful moment, we 932 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 1: might have avoided World War One, no rise of Communism, 933 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 1: no World War Two, no Cold War, no Holocaust, and 934 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,440 Speaker 1: a radically different Middle East. That single wrong term may 935 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 1: have shaped the entire modern world. That's quite the what if. 936 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: I am. I am not a believer in that I 937 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think we were on a hair trigger, 938 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 1: and I think that there were certainly, you know, we 939 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 1: were in a look think about the period we were in. 940 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 1: We were hypernationalists around the globe. We were. And this 941 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: is why I think we're in a similar period now, 942 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,920 Speaker 1: which is, you know, every time we've had a massive 943 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 1: transition in our economy, you know, over the last one 944 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years, right, that was the advent, you know, 945 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: when we were moving from a raring economy to an 946 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 1: industrial economy. Globally, look at all that happened in the 947 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 1: first fifteen years twenty years of the twentieth century. You 948 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 1: had the Russian Revolution, we had all I mean, there 949 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 1: was disruption and voter revolt and people revolt and worker 950 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,959 Speaker 1: revolts all over the globe. So it was a very 951 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:31,920 Speaker 1: unstable time. So I as much as I mean, I 952 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 1: love the is I love a good alternative history, a 953 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 1: little good a little butterfly effect. I wish I hope 954 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 1: you're right. I'm don't think, but I look at it. 955 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 1: I think there there we were in a the whole 956 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 1: globe wasn't in a in an unsteady position. In fact, 957 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 1: you could argue we're in a similar position now right 958 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 1: where you know we were, we were pursuing a very 959 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 1: closed border. We were uh anti immigrant at that time, 960 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 1: we were had high tariff rates, we were a bit nationalistic. Remember, 961 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 1: we didn't want to get involved at all. What was 962 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 1: going on in Europe. You know, Hey, that ain't happening here. 963 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 1: That's why we're We've got two oceans between us and 964 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 1: the other contents. So that's that would be My only 965 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 1: pushback to your theory is that I think that we 966 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 1: were that that that we were just the transition of 967 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,960 Speaker 1: the of the global economy from agrarian to industrial and 968 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 1: the race to industrialization. And you had this, you just 969 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 1: had there was all sorts of tumult that was happening 970 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 1: inside the Ottoman Empire. That was tumult. That was you know, 971 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 1: you had sort of it was the big we were 972 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 1: in the We were in the late stages of the 973 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 1: British Empire right that it was you know, uh, they 974 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 1: were it was getting chipped away at and certainly we 975 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: had you know, look at how the fact that that 976 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 1: did trigger a global you know, the Great War if 977 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 1: it will, I think tells you what a tinderbox the 978 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 1: globe wash was at that time, and that's something that 979 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 1: I think about in this current period. You know, we're 980 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 1: going to get through this, and we're going to get 981 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: through this, but this transformation of our economy has you know, 982 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: rattled the globe. Right, look at Brexit, then look at 983 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 1: what we're doing, and look at sort of the shift 984 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: and uh into nationalism here and what that is. Look 985 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 1: what that is triggered. You know, when when the biggest 986 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 1: economy in the world starts behaving in an isolationist, nationalistic 987 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,600 Speaker 1: sort of you know America first, Well, suddenly other countries 988 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,160 Speaker 1: are going to be Japan first, and Germany first, and 989 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 1: Italy first, and h and so on and so forth. 990 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: And so I certainly hope we can do we can 991 01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 1: escape this without with the mass casualties that we had 992 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: with World War One. But it's not as if we're 993 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 1: in a stable time period in our globe's history at 994 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: the moment, right, you have a pretty active war taking 995 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 1: place between one of the largest countries in the world, 996 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 1: Russia versus Ukraine. Look at sort of the unsteadiness what 997 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 1: we may be instigating a military conflict in Venezuela. We're 998 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: a bit on Uh, there's certainly a lot of concern 999 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 1: about potentially hot conflict with China over Taiwan. You've seen 1000 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 1: the rhetorical back and forth between the new Prime Minister 1001 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 1: of Japan in China, so it's a it's an interesting 1002 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,919 Speaker 1: what if. But I think when you look at the 1003 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 1: when you look at sort of what was happening around 1004 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 1: the world at that time, why why were we in 1005 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 1: this period where something like that could trigger all of this, 1006 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 1: I think you're underestimating what was a very I think 1007 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: a very unstable period that was taking place around the world. 1008 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 1: Having good life insurance is incredibly important. I know from 1009 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 1: personal experience. I was sixteen when my father passed away. 1010 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 1: We didn't have any money. He didn't leave us in 1011 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 1: the best shape. My mother single mother, now widow. 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This is the 1039 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 1: time where I've normally got this huge college football preview, 1040 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 1: we only have one game this weekend. But I always 1041 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 1: have good memories of this because I've been to a 1042 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 1: couple of Army Navy games, and I'm sure if you've 1043 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:32,520 Speaker 1: never been to an Army Navy game, you've missed out 1044 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,440 Speaker 1: on something. And the first one I got to experience 1045 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 1: was was the first time I ever got to participate 1046 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: in a pool presidential pool, if you will. The fact 1047 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,880 Speaker 1: that I got to do it probably violated something, probably 1048 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 1: was a secret service violation. But it is now thirty 1049 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,919 Speaker 1: years thirty one years ago, so I think I can 1050 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 1: now it can be told. My late longtime friend Von Ververs, 1051 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,520 Speaker 1: who some of you have heard me talk about before 1052 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:05,320 Speaker 1: and I basically grew up in politics together working at 1053 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:09,960 Speaker 1: the Hotline. We lost him a couple of years ago. 1054 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm still still feels like yesterday. I miss him every day. 1055 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 1: I miss talking politics with him, and we worked together 1056 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,680 Speaker 1: at the Hotline. We worked together at NBC. But when 1057 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 1: he'd gone back and forth from the Hotline a couple 1058 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 1: of times, and he actually got a network job before 1059 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:33,240 Speaker 1: I ever did, he went to CBS and he suddenly 1060 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 1: he got roped into he was working in their political 1061 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 1: bureau and they were like a whole bunch of people 1062 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 1: wanted the weekend off and from their White House unit, 1063 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 1: so they talked Vaughan into being the guy who ran 1064 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:51,600 Speaker 1: the transmission pool for the White House Press Corps for 1065 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 1: the Army Navy game because the president was going at this. 1066 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 1: The president at the time, of course, was Bill Clinton. 1067 01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 1: This year they were playing. That year, they were playing 1068 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 1: the Army Navy game the old Veteran Stadium in Philadelphia. 1069 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,480 Speaker 1: The reason I remember this is because they also said, hey, 1070 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,920 Speaker 1: if you want to bring a friend, we'll give you 1071 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 1: an extra an extra pass. So he says, hey, you 1072 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 1: want to come with me? And I was like yeah, 1073 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 1: So you know, we drive from DC to Philadelphia. And 1074 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 1: the only if I had brought a Phillips screwdriver with me, 1075 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 1: I pro there is a there's not a zero percent 1076 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: chance I would have walked away with a mic with 1077 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 1: a framed Mike Schmidt jersey from the Phillies locker room. 1078 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,920 Speaker 1: The White House transmission pool was in the actual Phillies 1079 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 1: clubhouse in Veterans Stadium, and I just was mesmerized by it, 1080 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,720 Speaker 1: and we you know it is now. Of course I've 1081 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 1: been through what a transmission pool is. I've been through 1082 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 1: all of those things, and it's kind of a it 1083 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:57,440 Speaker 1: can it can be a lot of a lot of 1084 01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,440 Speaker 1: work and a lot of sitting around, and it can 1085 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 1: be a lone thing, which is why many networks are like, 1086 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, you should have some company with this. But 1087 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: it was the first time I got to experience Army 1088 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 1: Navy game, and I got to experience it sort of 1089 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,640 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and we watched the entire game on 1090 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:17,040 Speaker 1: the on the sideline, and like almost every Army Navy game, 1091 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 1: it came down to the last drive of the game, 1092 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,600 Speaker 1: and uh, it was it was just fantastic, the pageantry, 1093 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:33,559 Speaker 1: the passion. Uh watching halftime when the Commander in Chief 1094 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,519 Speaker 1: moves from one side, you know, sitting on the Army side, 1095 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 1: moving over to the Navy side, or if Navy was 1096 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 1: the home team, the Navy side moving over to the 1097 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:45,080 Speaker 1: Army side, and there's this sort of ordinate sort of uh, 1098 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:51,680 Speaker 1: you know, you get the Navy, you get all the 1099 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 1: troops lining up and sort of lining and sort of 1100 01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 1: saluting the Commander in chief as they go. When I've 1101 01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 1: been to a couple of them, and some president doesn't 1102 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,439 Speaker 1: always go. Every year, when the president doesn't go, it's 1103 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 1: usually the Secretary of defense that goes Sometimes a president 1104 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 1: and the Secretary of Defense goes. I imagine we know 1105 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump loves himself a football game, and if he 1106 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 1: can officially go to a football game, he's going to go. 1107 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 1: So I'm sure we're going to have a Trump moment 1108 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 1: or two at this Army Navy game because he's not 1109 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,840 Speaker 1: gonna he's not going to miss a moment to miss 1110 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 1: a moment. But uh, it's it's a it's just one 1111 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:33,719 Speaker 1: of those, it really is. It's it's probably the only 1112 01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:39,080 Speaker 1: it's probably the purest college football that we have left. 1113 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 1: Right if you if you're sort of burned out on 1114 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:45,519 Speaker 1: nil and you're burned out on the conference realignment. Although 1115 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:49,880 Speaker 1: both Army and Navy have participated in conference realignments, in 1116 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 1: fact they are now both members of conferences, there was 1117 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,360 Speaker 1: a period where Army was an independent and they were 1118 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 1: sort of between conferences and things, and one of these 1119 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,400 Speaker 1: days it's very possible. I'm really excited did over the 1120 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,679 Speaker 1: last couple of years, we've actually seen Army and Navy 1121 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,040 Speaker 1: higher coaches that want to innovate and saying, okay, we 1122 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 1: have a we're going to have size limits of what 1123 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,599 Speaker 1: we're going to have but you know, which is why 1124 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 1: they run the triple option, but hey, why not throw 1125 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,760 Speaker 1: out of the triple option some And we've seen much 1126 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:21,599 Speaker 1: more dynamic offenses out of both both service academies, which 1127 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 1: has just been which has allowed them to pull a 1128 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 1: few upsets every now and then be a bit more 1129 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 1: sort of punch above their weight as programs. And you know, 1130 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,000 Speaker 1: the only curiosity I have is I have no idea 1131 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 1: how how these football programs are going to how the 1132 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,519 Speaker 1: how the NIL programs are going to work for Army 1133 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 1: and Navy, and whether they're we're going to start to 1134 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 1: see collectives for Army and Navy. I imagine we won't 1135 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 1: feels like that that's a that that's that that's a 1136 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:58,360 Speaker 1: gray area that autumn that that folks ought to stay 1137 01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 1: out of. But you know, I don't want to rule 1138 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 1: anything out that we'll start to see something on that front, 1139 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:09,639 Speaker 1: but I do I'm a sucker for it. And if 1140 01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,960 Speaker 1: you ever get the chance to go in person, I 1141 01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,559 Speaker 1: would just say take the opportunity. Even if you don't 1142 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,439 Speaker 1: consider yourself sort of a you know, a big sort 1143 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:22,920 Speaker 1: of flag waving type person. I know that's not everybody's cupetite, 1144 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,840 Speaker 1: doesn't make any less patriotic. I'm not. I don't want to. 1145 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,599 Speaker 1: I don't want to imply that at all, but I 1146 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:31,800 Speaker 1: it is. And here's the other day. It's always a 1147 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:38,920 Speaker 1: good game, and it's just an incredible atmosphere. And if 1148 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,919 Speaker 1: you want to know, I've some of my closest friends 1149 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 1: and a former roommate. It's a Naval Academy grad. So 1150 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:54,960 Speaker 1: I always root for Navy. But I just say go Navy. 1151 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't say beat Army because you know I'm I 1152 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,960 Speaker 1: don't have I don't I'm not anti Army on this one, 1153 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,720 Speaker 1: but I do always come down on the Navy side. 1154 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,280 Speaker 1: So go Navy. I hope you do well. But what 1155 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,599 Speaker 1: I most want is just a great game, because when 1156 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 1: the Army Navy game is competitive, it's a lot of 1157 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,479 Speaker 1: fun to watch, especially when it's the only college football 1158 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,719 Speaker 1: game we have this weekend. Although there is the FCS playoffs, 1159 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 1: I'm not in denial on that. One of the things 1160 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 1: I promise is that I might dabble a little bit 1161 01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,640 Speaker 1: in NFL. I know I do a little bit of 1162 01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 1: that with Tony Koornheizer, but I'll be honest with you 1163 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,800 Speaker 1: until Miami. As long as Miami is alive in the 1164 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,799 Speaker 1: college football Playoff. I'm going to be pretty pretty focused 1165 01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,439 Speaker 1: on that. But as a Packer fan, I'm starting to 1166 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:48,439 Speaker 1: feel as if i'm, you know, the beginning of this season. 1167 01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,439 Speaker 1: After the first couple of weeks, first two games, Miami 1168 01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:58,080 Speaker 1: beats Notre Dame in South Florida by pretty significant margins, 1169 01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,800 Speaker 1: and they look like a really good football team and 1170 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,840 Speaker 1: was going to be championship caliber. First two games of 1171 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 1: the NFL season, Packers beat the Lions and the Commanders 1172 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,519 Speaker 1: back to back. At the time when Commanders, we thought, hey, 1173 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, they just were in the NFC title game 1174 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,479 Speaker 1: the year before. They look like a juggernaut. Then they 1175 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,120 Speaker 1: had kind of a mid season dip. Miami had kind 1176 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 1: of a mid season dip. And now both my teams 1177 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,160 Speaker 1: are starting to starting to look like they at least 1178 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,120 Speaker 1: they can compete for the highest title of the season. 1179 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,559 Speaker 1: So to say I'm a bit giddy about my two 1180 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 1: football teams as an understatement, and I just thank them 1181 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,320 Speaker 1: in this In what can be when the day job 1182 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,479 Speaker 1: and the topics of what I have to cover for 1183 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,560 Speaker 1: the day job can be anxiety inducing and sometimes demoralizing 1184 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:48,439 Speaker 1: and sometimes depressing, it is always nice when your when 1185 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,280 Speaker 1: your sports teams can can provide a little bit of 1186 01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of happiness. But of course, as we 1187 01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,760 Speaker 1: all dedicated sports fans know, when your team, when you 1188 01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 1: suddenly have expectations for your team, you don't enjoy any 1189 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,840 Speaker 1: part of the game until you survived winning that game. 1190 01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,599 Speaker 1: I can tell you I barely enjoyed any part of 1191 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,679 Speaker 1: that Packers Bears game, but I was but after we won, 1192 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,640 Speaker 1: then I was really enjoying the fact that we that 1193 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,599 Speaker 1: that the Packers won. So to say that, I'm I'm 1194 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty uh pretty excited about about what could 1195 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,720 Speaker 1: be coming over the next few weeks. I don't want 1196 01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,080 Speaker 1: to jinx it, and for all I know, it could 1197 01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,280 Speaker 1: come crashing down for both teams in a heartbeat. But 1198 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, when you have a pretty good defensive line, 1199 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 1: it's amazing how far your team's can go. And both 1200 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,519 Speaker 1: the Packers and the and the Hurricanes have themselves pretty 1201 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:49,360 Speaker 1: elite defensive lines. And if to me, that's the key 1202 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:54,480 Speaker 1: to winning championships a disruptive defense, and both my Hurricanes 1203 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:58,400 Speaker 1: and my Packers have disruptive defenses. All Right, With that, 1204 01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:04,040 Speaker 1: with my sports biases out of the way, I will 1205 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,080 Speaker 1: call it a week. I will see you next week. 1206 01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,120 Speaker 1: Enjoy the weekend, be safe out there, and until we 1207 01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:15,000 Speaker 1: upload again, m hmmmmmm