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Speaker 1: at stopping people when they're going in and make them

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Speaker 1: kick threes. It is always an evolution when it comes

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Speaker 1: to building a team. Gus Bradley just let us know

433
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Speaker 1: how his team is evolving from a defensive standpoint. But

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Speaker 1: I think it kind of gives us a general indicator

435
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Speaker 1: on how all of these coaches view their teams and

436
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Speaker 1: how they're beginning to make adjustments as they hit into

437
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Speaker 1: the postseason. Yeah. I think, look, if you're coaching, uh,

438
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Speaker 1: you know you're coaching Pop Warner or whatever, I could

439
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Speaker 1: see how you'd say, Okay, every Monday, we do this.

440
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Speaker 1: Every Tuesday, we do this. We have this many periods

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Speaker 1: of practice, and we're gonna devote this number of periods

442
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Speaker 1: to the every and we do the same thing over

443
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Speaker 1: and over again every week. And it's consistency and and

444
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Speaker 1: that's that's this. No, no no, no, no no, that's not it.

445
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Speaker 1: You have to be able to take the pulse and

446
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Speaker 1: figure out where where do we need more work. Okay,

447
00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,920
Speaker 1: we're struggling this area. We got to devote more time

448
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Speaker 1: to that. We need to devote more meeting time to it,

449
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,720
Speaker 1: we need to devote more practice time to it. And

450
00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,640
Speaker 1: easy to get communicated that we've got to get better

451
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Speaker 1: in this area. And so the practice time is not

452
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Speaker 1: getting any longer. It's a pie. You've just got to

453
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Speaker 1: change how you're dividing up that pie in terms of

454
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Speaker 1: how you're spending your time. Buck you know, DJ and

455
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Speaker 1: and I can tell you just from first hand experience

456
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Speaker 1: in terms of coaching this year and being ecordinated and

457
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to devote your time. You

458
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Speaker 1: get what you emphasize. And so when Gus is talking

459
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Speaker 1: about look, we study each Monday what we've done the

460
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Speaker 1: previous Sunday, and then we figure out what areas we

461
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Speaker 1: need to do. And then he makes sure that the

462
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Speaker 1: practice script matches up to what the points of emphasis

463
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Speaker 1: are for that week. So whether it's turnovers, we need

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Speaker 1: more turnover drills or turnover periods before practice are doing practice,

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Speaker 1: or the red zone. Hey, let's limping out our red

466
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Speaker 1: zone period and will come it now first and second

467
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Speaker 1: down period. It is making sure that you're giving your

468
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Speaker 1: players enough reps that they feel good in the areas

469
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Speaker 1: that you really want to get better at, and make

470
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Speaker 1: sure that you have kind of button up as you're

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Speaker 1: going into these critical games down the end of the season.

472
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Speaker 1: And also you know, well' not single button up here,

473
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Speaker 1: but like you know, okay, it's about what the other

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Speaker 1: team does well. So you're getting ready to play a

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Speaker 1: game against a team that doesn't give up many sacks

476
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Speaker 1: or pressures. Okay, let's let's try and put a little

477
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Speaker 1: bit more into our our past rust plan this week.

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Speaker 1: Let's spend a little bit more time and one on ones. Um,

479
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Speaker 1: just kind of hone in a little bit on what

480
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Speaker 1: we're doing pastors rights, because we can't allow a guy

481
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Speaker 1: to sit back there and not get affected, so um

482
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Speaker 1: that we need to maybe throwing a couple more pressure

483
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Speaker 1: packages we haven't shown yet, but You've got to find

484
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Speaker 1: a way to move quarterbacks in this league. If you

485
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Speaker 1: leave quarterbacks alone, you're gonna lose absolutely. And I'm I'm

486
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Speaker 1: a kind of transition to this conversation, but it's the

487
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Speaker 1: same kind of conversation. I don't know how much time

488
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Speaker 1: you've had to check out the l A Rams and

489
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Speaker 1: Jerry goff Um, But in the last three games, Jerry

490
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Speaker 1: golf is really really struggling. He has seven interceptions, completion

491
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Speaker 1: has come way down. Um the last two games. What

492
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Speaker 1: has kind of stood out is the Rams haven't used

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Speaker 1: a lot of play action pass. They've been under their

494
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Speaker 1: dropbacks in terms of using play action pass, and he

495
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Speaker 1: has struggled. Um, I think what Sean McVeigh is doing,

496
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Speaker 1: And I think this is the biggest challenge that Sean

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Speaker 1: McVeigh has had in his young coach in life. As

498
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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Rams, he has to now

499
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Speaker 1: figure out what do I do now that the rest

500
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Speaker 1: of the league has seemingly caught up to us schematically

501
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Speaker 1: and they begun to figure out my quarterback? And so

502
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Speaker 1: I am curious to see what is he going to

503
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Speaker 1: do going forward because it's been a magic carpet ride

504
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Speaker 1: for the Rams for most of it offensively, and now

505
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Speaker 1: we've kind of hit a bump in the road when

506
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Speaker 1: it comes to the quarterback. And so what you're really

507
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Speaker 1: hoping when you get a great play caller is that

508
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Speaker 1: the play caller can come up with some magic dust

509
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Speaker 1: to help the quarterback out because the quarterback is struggling.

510
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Speaker 1: So what this Jean McVeigh do to hip Jared Goff

511
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Speaker 1: get back into a rhythm. Teams are sitting back, they're

512
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Speaker 1: taking away the explosives like you talked about, they're not

513
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Speaker 1: giving him that they're tightening up in the red zone

514
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Speaker 1: so they're not scoring to touchdowns that they are customs

515
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Speaker 1: are doing. And he has turned over the ball. So

516
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Speaker 1: three of the six things that Gus Bradley hit on

517
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Speaker 1: in terms of being kind of high friorities on defense,

518
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Speaker 1: the Rams have been struggling. So what does Sean McVeigh do.

519
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you had a chance to

520
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Speaker 1: look at Jerry Golf and what your thoughts are on

521
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Speaker 1: him right now? Yeah, Look, he's been moved off his

522
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Speaker 1: spot a little bit. His feet have gotten away from him,

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Speaker 1: Uh at times, no doubt uh to me. It just

524
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Speaker 1: you talked about the lack of explosives. I think over

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Speaker 1: the last three games when I looked it up, um,

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Speaker 1: it's three lowest yards per tempt of the season each

527
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Speaker 1: of those three games. So they have not been able

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Speaker 1: to get anything over the top. And when you can't

529
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Speaker 1: stretch out of defense, the entire field shrinks. UM, And

530
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Speaker 1: that's tough. It's tough to play quarterback when that happens.

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Speaker 1: Now it's kind of a Chicken or the egg thing

532
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Speaker 1: in terms, Okay, you're not getting over the top of

533
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Speaker 1: why aren't you getting over the top. Well, maybe because

534
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Speaker 1: you're not running the balls effectively so they can play

535
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Speaker 1: high safeties. If you can't run the ball effectively and

536
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Speaker 1: force them to drop down an extra defender, it's tough

537
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Speaker 1: to get over the top. So to me, the answer

538
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: would be, Okay, we're gonna come out, we're gonna commit

539
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Speaker 1: to the run game, and we're gonna get that going

540
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Speaker 1: and get that cranked up. And then guess what. Once

541
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Speaker 1: we get that going a little bit, then it's gonna shrink.

542
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Speaker 1: They're gonna pull coverage down and we're gonna be able

543
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Speaker 1: to expand expand the field a little bit. Stop playing

544
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Speaker 1: half court basketball. We'll get back to playing full court. Yeah,

545
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Speaker 1: you know. And and I think the funny thing and

546
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Speaker 1: I think sometimes defensive coordinators have been able to use

547
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Speaker 1: the ego of an offensive coordinator against him. Uh, Sean

548
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Speaker 1: mcveighs being able to develop all these cute and sexy plays,

549
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: they've been able to really kind of be um the

550
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: darling of the media in terms of the way they

551
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Speaker 1: play offensive football. Uh. The one thing that has come

552
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Speaker 1: out when you look at the numbers, Todd Gurley. When

553
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Speaker 1: Ty Gurley doesn't get the ball more than fifteen times,

554
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Speaker 1: their record is I mean it, it's talking about I'm

555
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Speaker 1: not talking. I'm talking about carries. When he gets fifteen

556
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Speaker 1: two more carries there, I want to stay there, twenty

557
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: and two when he gets under dad there, two and four,

558
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: two and five, twin six, somewhere in there. And so

559
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Speaker 1: for me, and I think everyone has to understand when

560
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Speaker 1: we look at the game, all teams are not necessarily

561
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Speaker 1: quarterback driven. When I look at the rams, Todd Gurley

562
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Speaker 1: to me, is the guy that is the focal point

563
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Speaker 1: of their offense. He should be the focal point. I

564
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: like their receivers, but I think we had a real

565
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Speaker 1: conversation about what letter grade to put on their wide receivers.

566
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Speaker 1: I think their receivers are probably be B pluses in

567
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Speaker 1: terms of Brandon Cooks and Robert Woods, and so when

568
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Speaker 1: you don't have a level receivers and you don't necessarily

569
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Speaker 1: have maybe at a level quarterback, it is hard to

570
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Speaker 1: lean on the passing game. The one guy that I

571
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Speaker 1: know that is an A and A plus player is

572
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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, and so as they try and clean up

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Speaker 1: what's going on with them, I think Sean McVeigh has

574
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: to think players, not plays. My best player is Todd Gurley.

575
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Speaker 1: I need to get the ball to Tid Gurley as

576
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Speaker 1: much as I can, and then the rest of the

577
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: of guys will fall in line. Once he's establishing, the

578
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: defense has to pay more attention to him. One more

579
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: random thought and then we can move on and then

580
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: bring on Greedy Williams to talk to him here. Uh

581
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: but remember coach Billick when he would come on and

582
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Speaker 1: talk about building your your receivers like a basketball team.

583
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Speaker 1: You know, it got me thinking because just over the

584
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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, you know, think about what we

585
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Speaker 1: saw early in the season. Um from Tyreek Kill. Um,

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Speaker 1: Now he's a little bit nicked up but not quite

587
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Speaker 1: the same guy. So to me, Um, when you look

588
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Speaker 1: at a team like the Rams, Brandon Cooks right, doesn't

589
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 1: have most size, but he's small. So so later in

590
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Speaker 1: the season, now team all speed, all that speed starts

591
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Speaker 1: slowed down the side. You know, have quite that size,

592
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: you wear down a little bit. Guess what. You know

593
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Speaker 1: who had a good game for the Philadelphia Eagles against

594
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Speaker 1: the Rams of the night, jeff What do you think

595
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: all Sean Jeffrey could run right about for it? Guess

596
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: what when you're six three plus, you're six three plus

597
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: and you can go make plays above the rim contested catches.

598
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 1: You don't have to run away from anybody. I just

599
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: think late in the season when you start to kind

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Speaker 1: of wear down a little bit, that you know, look,

601
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Speaker 1: your nicknames is stinking Cheetah. I mean that's what That's

602
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: what Tyreek Hill's nickname is. I mean, some of that

603
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: speed can wear down a little bit. Size doesn't wear down.

604
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not saying you want a bunch of big,

605
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: slow guys all over the field. That's not what I'm saying.

606
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: You need some speed, but you gotta have some size too.

607
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: That's nice to be able to use that at this

608
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: time of year. It does matter. I mean, you continue

609
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: to talk about like DJ, you and I are talking

610
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: about in the team building business and what we ideally

611
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: want to build a Super Bowl champion. And what you

612
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: have to do is we talked about the Saints. You

613
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: have to have the ability to play different styles because

614
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: the way football is played at the beginning of the season,

615
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: it changes later in the year. And as we're seeing

616
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Speaker 1: teams like the Tennessee Titans get a ball to Derrick

617
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: Kennedy thirty plus times, we're seeing the Baltimore Ravens punish

618
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: people with the running game. You have to be able

619
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Speaker 1: to change your style to kind of help your team

620
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: win games. And so when I'm looking at the Rams

621
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Speaker 1: and you're, man, it's such a great point. You talk

622
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Speaker 1: about the little receivers. The physicality that kind of happens

623
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Speaker 1: in December and January is different than the beginning of

624
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: the year. It's a heavyweight fight. You have to be

625
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: able to withstand those punches. And it brings me back

626
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: to what Nick Saban said when I was at a

627
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: pro day years ago. He said, Look, there's a reason

628
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: why we're a bigger team. We believe that football is

629
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: like a boxing match. There's a reason why you don't

630
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: put middle weights in the ring with heavyweights. Over time,

631
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: heavyweights zapp all their energy with those body blows and

632
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: they knocked them out. In the later stages, we're seeing

633
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: these big, physical teams that play a certain style. They're

634
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: able to kind of stand the test of time. That's

635
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: why they're still standing late in the year. Yep. I mean,

636
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: look at look at the Look at Mike Williams and

637
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: what he's doing coming down the stretcher, big physical wide

638
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: receiver for the Chargers. It's kind of his time of year.

639
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: I mean, look like even DeAndre Hopkins isn't necessarily a

640
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: big gap, but he can win. The speed is not

641
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: his main trait when it comes to how he plays

642
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 1: the position is being able to set your team up

643
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: where you have enough of everything where those guys can

644
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: kind of shift and now the bigger guy can take

645
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Speaker 1: the lead when the weather it's coal and with the

646
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: game kind of shrinks because defensive begin to hone in

647
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: on what you've been able to do for most of

648
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: the year. No doubt, that was a fun discussion. Buck

649
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: sprung that one on you, and you brought your a game.

650
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: As always, there's no chet lag with your football knowledge

651
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: right there. All right, let's bring in let's bring in

652
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Speaker 1: a guest here, one of the top cornerback prospects in

653
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: the upcoming draft class that I really dB U. L

654
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: s U has done a phenomenal job of turning out

655
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: talent at the corner position and could not be more

656
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: excited to have Greedy Williams with us. All right, Greedy,

657
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: thank you so much, man uh for joining the show.

658
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: First of all, I just gotta ask, like what you

659
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: been up to lately? What's going on since you last

660
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: got on the football field. Uh, you know, just you know,

661
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: getting the plan together you know, just you know, making

662
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: everything stretch out for these few months, you know, leading

663
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: up to the draft. So me, my agents, you know,

664
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: my parents, we all know, just made a big plan.

665
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: You know, just everything start on January three and the

666
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: plan goes from now, you know, And thinking about that plan,

667
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: how tough was it for you to make the decision

668
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: whether to stay at l s U or to take

669
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: the opportunity to maybe go into the National Football League

670
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: based on what you'd already accomplished at L s U.

671
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: It was tough, you know, just no last game my brothers,

672
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, just I had to know express myself to them,

673
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, in a in a worst ways possibly know,

674
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: let them know I won't know be at the bowl

675
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: game and things like that. But at the end of

676
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: the day, you know, family, you know, gonna come behind

677
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: and support you, you know, and with my family, you know,

678
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: they we all made a decision, you know, just you

679
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: know it's time to push forward and you know, get

680
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: to the professional level. What the what's your goal during training?

681
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: What are you working on to get yourself ready for

682
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: the next level? Uh? You know, just footwork, you know, um,

683
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: my weight obviously and things like that. So just getting stronger,

684
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, getting faster, you know, staying fit. Where where

685
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: is your weight right now? Greedy? Where we at? I've

686
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: probably around by one eighty two? Okay, what's your You

687
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: have a goal there? What you're talking in? Uh, pushing

688
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: for one ninety. But I mean if I if I

689
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: could stay one eight five side of me straight, you know.

690
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: Do you guys have a story tradition? Uh? I mean

691
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: l s U grads would say that you're all the DBU.

692
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: There's some other schools that would like to claim that

693
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: Moniker when You've had so many guys that you said

694
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: in the defensive back room that have gone on to

695
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: have success in the National Football League. What have you

696
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: been able to ask those guys are the keys to

697
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: success in terms of taking your game from a collegian

698
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: to being a top notch professional. Uh. You know, just

699
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: when I first got to l s U, I was

700
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: already in the room in first round guy. So you know,

701
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: just taking one thing was giving me. You know, that's

702
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: either coming to the film room with a pad and pen.

703
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: You know, just take the small things, like the small

704
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: notes you know that will make a game better. So

705
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: now that at the next level, I get to talk

706
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: to you know, Tredavis White, he one of those guys

707
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: you know called me and just you know, just mold

708
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: me into like, you know this this is a different game.

709
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's our business. So you know, just get

710
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: your mind ready. You know, whenever you make the choice

711
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: and Um you know come up in you know, be

712
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: who you is. So with them, you know him and

713
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: jamal Um Tyre and reached out Pat p you know,

714
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: all those guys you know just came you know, just

715
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: and had they you know a little sprinkle about the

716
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: NFL now I see you get to play in a

717
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: lot of different techniques. When I watch you on tape,

718
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean I'll see you it. You'll see you in

719
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: a little ball, I'll see you a little trail technique.

720
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: I see you a little side shuffle or see your pedal. Like,

721
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: where where are you like playing the most? Where are

722
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: you the most comfortable? Technique wise? Position wise? Most definitely pressed.

723
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: You know, once you if you get your hands on

724
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: the guy from the line of scrimmage, you know, it's

725
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: kind of over with. So when you pressed, that's my

726
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: that's I think that's my strongest because I had the lent,

727
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, the speed and you know the aggressiveness. You

728
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: know it was who was that? Sorry but real quick?

729
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: Who who was the biggest challenge for you this year wide?

730
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: Receiver wise, you went up against this ship. I mean

731
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: it wasn't really that much of a challenge. But last

732
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: year I can tell you it was Kevin really brothers.

733
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: He was nice from you know, from the line of

734
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: strammage on down the field. So that was probably one

735
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: of my biggest child don't college football, you know, And

736
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: thinking about what DJ had asked you about your technique

737
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: and the different techniques that you use when you pop

738
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: in the tape and you have an opportunity to look

739
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: at somebody that you want to steal some tips from.

740
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: Who are the guys that you made patting yourself after uh,

741
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: no doubts. I started with Pat Pete. You know, just

742
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: look at Pat p didn't know how he you know,

743
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: played the ball down the field. That's that's what I

744
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: like about pet Pete. Then I go on a Trade White?

745
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: How he able to be patient at the line. Now

746
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm watching djack You know did Dante Jackson? Um? Just

747
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: watching how you know to play with that confidence. So

748
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: it's a piece of you can get from everybody. Like

749
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 1: I said, I get Pat Pete with the ball skills,

750
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: I get Trade White with the patients at the line,

751
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: and I get d J Dante Jackson with the confidence.

752
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: You don't even have to leave your school all all

753
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: all fellow teammates all along. You just stay right, just

754
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: keeping in the brand, keeping in the family. I see

755
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: you understand it. That's all you can do. I love

756
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: that when you talk about Dante. Now, Dante can roll,

757
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: and we saw of that again against Carolina Panthers on

758
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: that two point he took back Uh, what what can

759
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: we expect when Greeny puts his hand online when we

760
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: get to the combine in Indianapolis or your pro day,

761
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: whatever you decide you want to run your forty When

762
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: when your hand goes down to the line, what kind

763
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: of number are we looking at when you hit the tape? Man,

764
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: I haven't ran straight in so long, So when I

765
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: put my hand on that line, it might be like

766
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: a with no technique or nothing. It might be like

767
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: a four three. Oh okay, then alright that place that work.

768
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: So one of the things that we like to do, Greedys,

769
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: we always like to have people reflect on their um,

770
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: high school, college, or their their football career and what

771
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: would you say, has been the biggest highlight um of

772
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: your time playing ball? It could be on the field,

773
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: could be off the field. What has been the biggest

774
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: highlight of what football is kind of allowed you to experience?

775
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: I give you both. So, um, you know, I started

776
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: by default when our guys went down and I went

777
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: in against by my first collegue game ever. I was nervous,

778
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: but you know I made a big plate. It was interception,

779
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: first interception that year, and that like changed my life forever.

780
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: Like I never came off to l before ever again.

781
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: So that was one of the you know, the highlights

782
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: of my life, you know, change everything, you know, my

783
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: family life, my life, you know. So and then off

784
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: the field, I do this thing. Uh now I'm starting

785
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: to do this thing. Last year I did this callor

786
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: back to school giveaway. That what I did last year.

787
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: So whenever I come home, like it made from college

788
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: or something, me and my brother will get together and

789
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: we'll do a giveaway. And last year we did a

790
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: giveaway and that was probably one of the greatest moments ever,

791
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, just off the field, you know, send the

792
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: kids from my community will come support me, you know

793
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: and have all of you know, things that they need

794
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: for school and able to take picture to play games,

795
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: play basketball, you know, just loving on those kids, you know,

796
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: one of the biggest parts about you know, off the

797
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: field when it comes to football. So that's what I

798
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: took in as of my one of my highlights out

799
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: to field. Now, we were also like, we go through

800
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 1: these ages here, so that's kind of like your highlight.

801
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: But how about if we had to look through your

802
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: life just a hardship, give us an example of something

803
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: you've been through that has been a challenge in your

804
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: life that you've been able to kind of come out

805
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: the other side and overcome, uh, you know, just sitting

806
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: on I remember one day I was walking home from

807
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: middle school. I saw my mom, you know, just sitting

808
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: on the porch crying. But she never told us why

809
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: she was crying. It's me and my brother. She never

810
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: told us why she was crying. So my sisters coming

811
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: the room and they tell us, you know, she just

812
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: found out she got counseled middle school. So I'm like,

813
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: like it hit me so hard, Like I just can't

814
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: think right now, Like it's like counselor I didn't see this.

815
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: One of my best friends mama died from counseling like that.

816
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: So it's just like what I'm supposed to do. So

817
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: when I go back outside, I just I'm just like

818
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: leaning on her collet, just looking at her crowd, like

819
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: it's hurt me inside. So in high school, she used

820
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: to have to um like leave like on the Monday

821
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: to go get treatment in in mine Row, which is

822
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: like forty five to an hour away from my house.

823
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: So she'll leave and you know, go to Monro but

824
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: she never she never told me and my brother, anything

825
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: about the council, Like still to this day, I don't

826
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: know anything about it. All I know is she beat it,

827
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, and she she's healthy. You know she's been

828
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: at every college game, every high school game, every peewee

829
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: ball game. No, she never missed a game, so she

830
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: back in. Rolling know, she healthy. You know that's one

831
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: of my hardships. That is an awesome story, man. I'll

832
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: tell tell your mother. We're we're excited that she's doing great. Man,

833
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: that is great news. Go ahead, like coming off of that, um,

834
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: we just want to know who is your biggest hero?

835
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: Who is the person that you look up to the most.

836
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: Might sound crazy, but my biggest hero is my daughter.

837
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: You know, she just changed me from everywhere life. You know,

838
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: me having a bad day, I can just call her

839
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: and should say dad, dad. You know that make make

840
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: my date ten times better than what I was having.

841
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: So I just cheat. I just watched her, you know,

842
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: just watch your girl and love to you know, just

843
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: comfort her whenever I had the time. And you know,

844
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: Christian's gonna be big for this year. That's right. She

845
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: love it Christmas. Listen here, no question, I love it. Hey,

846
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: last two things and then We're gonna let you run here.

847
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: Uh number one, I'm looking you know Calgary Baptist there

848
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: in Streports. Is that where Doug Williams was coaching when

849
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: he was coaching? Or sorry, sorry Duck Peterson? Is that

850
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: where Douck Peterson went and coach? So he come back

851
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: there while you were in school? No? No, he coach.

852
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: He loved actually like two or three years before I came,

853
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: so he was he franchised it. Last question, last question,

854
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: and when we appreciate your time, last question, gonna let

855
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: you run. Um. So I started out at Northeast Louisiana University,

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Speaker 1: which is now University Louisiana Monroe. You just talked about

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Speaker 1: going to Monroe, So you have to answer this one

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Speaker 1: question for me because I never learned the answer. Is

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Speaker 1: it the Pecan Land Mall? Or is it the Pecan

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Speaker 1: Land Mall? Because I don't know if I ever said

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Speaker 1: it right. I say pecan, Pecan? Okay, PK not Pecan?

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Speaker 1: Do you like? Do you like? Do you like the pie? Yes?

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00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: No doubt. I'll tell you what. We We've got a deal.

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00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: We've got to deal with you. You're gonna get an

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Speaker 1: official move the six Pecan Pie once. Once you get drafted,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna deliver a hand. All right, Greedy man, congratulations

867
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Speaker 1: on your on your decision in your future. We will

868
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Speaker 1: see you in Indianapolis at the combine. Look forward to

869
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: catching up with you again here soon. Yes, sir, no problem,

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Speaker 1: I thank you all all right back. What a fun

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Speaker 1: kid to talk to. And Greedy Williams Hall of Fame

872
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: name by the way, great name, great name, especially when

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00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: you have the ability to turn the ball over, your

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00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: ball skills, you have the size, like man, Greedy really

875
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: works if you're talking about building a brand, particularly as

876
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 1: a playmaker. Yeah, no question, easy sell their easy marketing

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Speaker 1: sell there for Greedy waves. Hey, fun show today, Buck

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Speaker 1: got a chance to recap that Monday night game that

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Speaker 1: little scoring a fair Uh. I gotta be honestly, I'd

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00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: love talking with Greedy Ways. My favorite part of the

881
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: show today might just be our a little in depth

882
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: discussion we did on uh on kind of where football

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00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: is right now at this time of the year and

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Speaker 1: uh and just kind of how you can kind of

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00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: take the pulse and and figure out where teams are

886
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: right now, what we can expect going forward. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: it was a fascinating discussion. I like the discussion. I

888
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: like when we have a chance to kind of peel

889
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: back the onion and have like these uh stated in

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00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: union type toss about where football is, philosophy get discussed on.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Good time, man, Hey, go, you deserve

892
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: a nap. Try and get you back on on the

893
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: right time zone here. It's it's great to have you back. Man.

894
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you did you here. Our nickname

895
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Speaker 1: for Rhett we gave him while you were gone. Oh

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Speaker 1: what's his nickname? He's a p b U. He's our

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Speaker 1: primary backup if I'm gone, if you're gone, He's kind

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Speaker 1: of the next man up. So we just call him

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Speaker 1: the PBu, not the pass breakup. He's moved in. He's

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Speaker 1: moved in. All right ya, honorary, honorary. We shoot, we

901
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Speaker 1: got path to the draft gonna be here before you

902
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: know it. With the with the unbelief all of us here,

903
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: like man, we've got these all star games coming up,

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Speaker 1: like East West Senior. I gotta get to work. I

905
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Speaker 1: know I got so far. Let let's let's get done,

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Speaker 1: wrap this up, and we'll go go start watching some

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Speaker 1: college kids. H that's gonna do it for us today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for downloading, subscribing, leaving us a review

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Speaker 1: there on Apple Podcast. We do appreciate that it's almost

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Speaker 1: our time of year where we kind of take the

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Speaker 1: mantle on the football podcast platform and say this is

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Speaker 1: your home. We've got you covered here as we look

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Speaker 1: forward to the postseason, the bowl games as well as

914
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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft not too far off on the horizon. There.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us today. I'll move the Sticks.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Thanks for downloading Move the

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