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Speaker 1: What would you talk about on your on your podcast

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Speaker 1: Firms Represents Morning Show. Here we go around the long table.

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Speaker 1: We've got Gandhi wearing her aviator glasses. They met your jacket,

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Speaker 1: and also they're scouting, and there's Brody, and there's uh,

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Speaker 1: the one and only Garrett, keep your special title, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: good American. I can remember what I call you, Good American? Garrett. Here,

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Speaker 1: I'm here. Where's Daniel He's on our way in? All right,

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Speaker 1: Daniels on our way in. I think my fiance Alex

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Speaker 1: should be joining us in a moment, which is very

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Speaker 1: appropriate for the conversation we're about to have. Where do

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Speaker 1: you draw the line when it comes to which pictures

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Speaker 1: you post on on on on social Now, this this

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Speaker 1: comes from a conversation we had this morning of Monday

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Speaker 1: morning on our show, the Big Show on the radio.

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Speaker 1: And uh because and Alex is a perfect person to ask,

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Speaker 1: because he'll put a picture of him with Satan. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't care, he doesn't care, He just wants. He just

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Speaker 1: wants to say, hey, I met Satan. Don't always agree

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Speaker 1: with him, right, but it's okay. Satan would be a

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Speaker 1: get Yeah, I'm more about the celebrity of the person.

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Speaker 1: I'm more about. You know, I don't care about much.

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Speaker 1: You don't care about why they became a celebrity. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I drew. I draw a line in the sand for

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Speaker 1: if you've killed somebody, I'm not I don't want to

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Speaker 1: pose with a murderer. But short of that, I personally

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Speaker 1: think that have an accused murderer. How about someone like

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Speaker 1: molested someone? You're good if if Kelly the list is growing, Okay,

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Speaker 1: R Kelly, wanta take a picture of R Kelly? Put

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Speaker 1: it up? No, because of what he did, he had

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Speaker 1: he was he's convicted. Now well he's no, I'm sorry, No,

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Speaker 1: he's he's charging. Here's some question will behavior there. Gandhi

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Speaker 1: asked about what about the guy from the fire festival.

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Speaker 1: You took a picture with him, but you failed to

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Speaker 1: post it when it came around. So she thinks that

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Speaker 1: I should go back in my archives and post the

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Speaker 1: picture with the fire festival guy who's in jail exactly.

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Speaker 1: I would probably consider that. But I think you may

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Speaker 1: have missed the boat because it was really hot when

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Speaker 1: those two documentaries first dropped and out a little bit later.

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Speaker 1: But I was like, man, that's get all gets the

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Speaker 1: fire festival guys. All right, well, so Alex is here,

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Speaker 1: high Alex. You here's just in. Sorry to body. He

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Speaker 1: just walked in the door. I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: want to be in hit smells we get, you know,

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Speaker 1: as you know, there's a creek bed under our building

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Speaker 1: and it smells like it smells like like fecal matter.

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Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of fecal matter, may I bring

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Speaker 1: up a point. There was a great article in New

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Speaker 1: York Times this weekend. There's a controversy going on with

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Speaker 1: drug companies whether or not they should be able to

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Speaker 1: market this pill. The pill actually contains healthy fecal matter,

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Speaker 1: a fecal matter from a healthy human being. And you

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Speaker 1: and people who have trouble with all those the gut

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Speaker 1: of the flora flora. People may be they've taken too

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Speaker 1: many antibiotics or whatever. They can't get that floora going

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Speaker 1: in their gut. They take these pills and it's it's

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Speaker 1: been proven healthy fecal fecal matter from a healthy person

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Speaker 1: can't help you grow that. So the debate is on

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Speaker 1: is this a medication or like a transplant, like a

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Speaker 1: blood transfusion kind of thing. That's goot, think about it.

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Speaker 1: Smells awful, and it does feel like shit. It didn't

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Speaker 1: smell like a minute ago, Alex. All right, so remember Okay,

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Speaker 1: over the weekend, Gandhi posted a photo of her with

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders. Okay, Okay, this is great, Alex. Here's here's

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Speaker 1: the point. You're obviously you're not a Bernie Sanders fan. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but just for the get of it, just the fact

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Speaker 1: with him. Of course I would, even though I'm not

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Speaker 1: a fan of his. But but Alex, which I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say anything negative to you, and you didn't know. You

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Speaker 1: aren't the person that posted fuck you Gandhi, because somebody did. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I said, Gandhi's venom and Okay, so the question is

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Speaker 1: where do you draw the line? Scary says he will

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Speaker 1: not he will not post photos with him posing with

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Speaker 1: murderers and molesters, molesters, No good. What did you say

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Speaker 1: was a get oh? Like? For instance, Toronto mayor Rob Ford,

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Speaker 1: the crackhead guy that was Okay, a week a week later,

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Speaker 1: right away and were entertained. And that was again, well

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Speaker 1: you know what that reminds me. My mom used to

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Speaker 1: watch the Jodi Arias uh trial. Yes, and my mom

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Speaker 1: story real quick. Jody Arias kill old her boyfriend in

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Speaker 1: him like a hundred times. Yeah, no, I know that,

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Speaker 1: And so my mom would watch it. So for Christmas,

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Speaker 1: when you I purchased one of her paintings that she

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Speaker 1: made in prison. I bought it and we still have.

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Speaker 1: jodiarius Let's show your mom. Well, would your mom post

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Danielle just walked in them. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: where do you draw the line? You would you or

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Speaker 1: Rob Floyd? He posted that I would not. Alex just

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Speaker 1: admitted that he bought Jodi Arisses arias is painting she

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Speaker 1: Who here would take a picture with O? J. Simpson?

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Speaker 1: Be honest? I was thinking I would not. I would

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Speaker 1: take a picture as because he was a football player,

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Speaker 1: not because you know. But I'm saying, would you scary

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Speaker 1: murdered somebody? But he's O. J. Simpson? No? Plegedly too

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Speaker 1: much controvers You would would you take a picture with Ojen?

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Speaker 1: he wasn't a gun Daniel, would you take a picture

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Speaker 1: They took a photo, made it into a Christmas card,

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Speaker 1: and the Christmas card said, hope you have a killer Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Do it for the Graham every time. If I could

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Speaker 1: stand between President Trump and and Kim Jong un together

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Speaker 1: and I would get the middle. Because I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: Kim Chung has killed people, yes he has. Here's the line. Alright, So, Gandy,

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Speaker 1: so you you took that picture with Bernie Sanders. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but you, but you admitted you wouldn't you would not

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Speaker 1: vote for him, right, I wouldn't vote for Bernie You're posting.

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Speaker 1: Had nothing to do with you asking people to vote

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Speaker 1: in the in the building you want to take a

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Speaker 1: picture with. Yeah. I find him to be a fascinating man.

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Speaker 1: F you, Gandhi, You're spewing hatred. It's so so stupid. Well,

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Speaker 1: the thing is, I am an awful human being. But

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Speaker 1: that's not what does it. I've taken pictures with celebrities,

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Speaker 1: singers and people that I don't like their music, and

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Speaker 1: I've said, oh my god, I can I get a

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Speaker 1: Some people I absolutely can't stand. Someone that's so bad.

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Speaker 1: I told Elvis and he's like, oh my god. And

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Speaker 1: I didn't post it. I posted on my Facebook page

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Speaker 1: I would never put it in public. But you did it, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I did it. Yeah, But it's okay when i'm what

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Speaker 1: But I took a picture with Chris Brown and they're

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Speaker 1: And then when the scandal broke, people were like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not endorsing what he did, but am I required

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Speaker 1: take it down. Well. Also, this brings us to what's

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Speaker 1: part two on HBO Leaving Neverland. We watched a part

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Speaker 1: one last night and it was intense. It was intense

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Speaker 1: and disturbing. So Michael Jackson argued, really one of the

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Speaker 1: he's released, do you still embrace those songs the same?

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Speaker 1: If you if you believe in what these accusers are saying,

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Speaker 1: and so it's just you know. And then if you

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Speaker 1: And that's the I think that's the hardest part of it.

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Speaker 1: After Elvis, after watching that documentary like last night, like

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Speaker 1: you guys did, Michael Jackson, music is dead to me? Well,

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Speaker 1: and you're and also two children, yes, two children, And

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Speaker 1: I told you this earlier. I think I would have

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Speaker 1: I don't have kids. I wish naser that's all I have.

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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you right now, after watching that last night,

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Speaker 1: I was I don't know what I'm gonna do that,

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Speaker 1: and I know it was wrong what he did, But

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Speaker 1: I think the parents are to blame a lot too,

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand. I don't have to worry about

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Speaker 1: listening to their music though, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: What doesn't change the meaning of man in the mirror

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Speaker 1: or we are the world. I mean, he did so much.

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Speaker 1: I'm not what he did is terrible if he did it,

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Speaker 1: but some of his songs are culturally important, his lyrics

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Speaker 1: are important, and so yeah, maybe I won't listen to

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Speaker 1: Beat It again, but he has powerful music that can

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Speaker 1: did because he had emotional problems. Well, that's where I'm

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Speaker 1: totally in conflict. I was gonna say, you know, um,

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Speaker 1: if he did do it, it's totally wrong, disgusting everything.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that they're bringing it up now and

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Speaker 1: didn't they bring there was an interview with him years ago.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this has been going on for thirty years

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Speaker 1: with him. It's not like that's a lot of these

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Speaker 1: they came forward. He did defend himself. He was acquitted

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Speaker 1: and you can you know, but I mean, look, R.

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Speaker 1: Kelly is here to defend himself and we don't believe him.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that Michael's not here to I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that changes it. They still wore or were

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Speaker 1: not molested what would Michael say if he was here,

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Speaker 1: I didn't do it that, Okay, Now you stuf have

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Speaker 1: to make your opinion. So I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: in these cases, And it's different with Michael Jackson because

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Speaker 1: you're never going to be able at this point to

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Speaker 1: prove he did it or he didn't do it. But

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Speaker 1: like with r Kelly, if he gets convicted but the

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Speaker 1: world still wants his music, can we not listen to

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Speaker 1: his music? And anybody who downloads or any profits that

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Speaker 1: happened from it then go to a charity that helps

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Speaker 1: that would be that would be a great idea, But

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Speaker 1: you know who's going to organize that? How do they do?

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Speaker 1: It's legally, you can't make you look at a song

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Speaker 1: like I Believe I Can Fly, which is one of

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Speaker 1: the most incredible songs ever written and recorded, one of

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of you know, we all love a

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Speaker 1: lot of music. That's just a very very special song.

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Speaker 1: So happens it was recorded by a guy who is

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Speaker 1: very very hated right now, and so what do you do?

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Speaker 1: What do you do with that song? And that's the

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Speaker 1: kids movie? Well okay, well it's in space Jam. What

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Speaker 1: do you do? Do you eliminate from eliminated from Space Jam?

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Speaker 1: Do you eliminate that song from the world? I don't

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Speaker 1: know that. I don't have answered. Space Dam two is

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Speaker 1: coming out. You have to solve this by tomorrow. Podcast

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