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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebina, a space where no

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Speaker 1: question is off limits and storylines become lifelines. The views

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Speaker 1: shared by our guests are meant to inform, entertain, and empower.

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Speaker 1: From the laughs to the lessons. Just remember, tough times

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Speaker 1: don't last, but professional home girls do enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: This episode contains sensitive topics. Listener discretion is advice.

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Speaker 3: What's up, y'all?

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Speaker 2: Inshagarra Ebine here and I hope all is cute. Okay,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to another episode of Pretty Private with eb

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Speaker 2: and A. Now, before we dive into this week's episode,

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Speaker 2: y'all know, I got to catch all up on my

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Speaker 2: trip to Marcus Vineyard. Okay, now listen, I have to

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Speaker 2: go back. Like those four days I spent there just

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Speaker 2: weren't enough time for me to be able to enjoy

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Speaker 2: the oland the way that I would have liked to

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Speaker 2: enjoy the Alan Like. So, you know, I had this

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Speaker 2: hosting gig, which, let me tell you, I body, I

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Speaker 2: did such an amazing job. And let me tell y'all something,

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Speaker 2: manifestation is real. Manifestation is real, y'all. One of my

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Speaker 2: prayers that I had for myself is the book more

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Speaker 2: host than martyringe gigs because you know, look at the

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Speaker 2: other girls that's doing this, they be doing it for

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Speaker 2: a while, and I'm like, you know, I'm witty, I'm smart,

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Speaker 3: You know, I can do this, and so I really

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Speaker 2: And how I know that I am working walking in

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Speaker 2: I feel very confident, but also you know, I'm walking

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Speaker 2: I did, asking me for my information, trying to book

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Speaker 2: me things of this nature. So you know, I was

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Speaker 2: shout out to Sisters on the Vineyard for having me there.

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Speaker 2: It was really really so much fun. But I also

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Speaker 2: feel like, especially if I'm working, I just need minimum

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Speaker 2: like days before the actual event, stars like I'm like

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Speaker 2: rehearsing a live shout out to my friend and maryor

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Speaker 2: he was definitely helped me prough for this event because sometimes,

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Speaker 2: So once the event was old with, I really only

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Speaker 3: I had a lobster row, which was delicious, and I

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's no lobsters in Massachusetts, but I'm

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Speaker 2: telling y'all right now, hands down, that was one of

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Speaker 2: And then also I got ice cream from Mad Mathers,

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Speaker 2: And then last but not least, I actually had time

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Speaker 2: Now I have an exciting announcement to make which I've

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Speaker 2: coloring books. It's finally here. Yes, but my new listeners,

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Speaker 2: here's the backstory. So a few years ago I came

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Speaker 2: like I love to read. So I was in bookstores

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Speaker 3: And y'all do coloring books.

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Speaker 2: It was just mad boring, Like if it was a

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Speaker 2: And then we also got some new editions that I'm

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Speaker 3: So I'm super excited for you all to experience this.

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Speaker 2: listening to that they't know me. It's only supposed to

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Speaker 2: this coming book is so freaking cool. I cannot wait

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Speaker 2: for you all to see it. You can pre order

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Speaker 2: it now, so please make sure it's to support and

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Speaker 2: grab your copy using the link in the show notes below. Now,

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Speaker 2: for this week's episode, I really wanted to ease y'all

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Speaker 2: please take care of your mental health. But this episode,

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Speaker 2: enjoyed this week's episode Because I was born into a

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Speaker 3: Part one starts now, all right, to my guests, thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for being on the show. How you doing,

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Speaker 3: How you feeling?

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Speaker 5: I'm like, dad, how are you? You know?

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Speaker 3: I feel really cute.

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Speaker 2: I went out for brunch for one of my friends

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Speaker 3: And did he pay for it? I was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: When you want a God's favorite things just come to

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Speaker 2: Well I would tell you that off the air, but

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Speaker 2: Like I just can't even imagine some of the things

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Speaker 4: It definitely made me feel like it know that I

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Speaker 4: This is just me propping my phone up, telling my story,

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Speaker 4: and then that reaching thirty thousand people and then someone saying, hey,

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Speaker 5: And then I'm getting dms.

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Speaker 4: I'm getting so many messages and people reaching out that

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Speaker 5: Kind words. So I've it's been liberating to say.

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Speaker 3: That's a good word.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Are you shocked by the amount of people that's

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Speaker 5: Eight months ago? Oh wow? Eight months ago? Wow?

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Speaker 4: Like I uploaded those videos eight months ago and then

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Speaker 5: Okay? So with YouTube, I had I've been doing YouTube

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Speaker 4: So I was doing story time, getting ready with me,

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Speaker 5: Right, But I told myself.

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Speaker 4: You know what, Well, I I know that I'm not

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm just going to give them a real video,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, granted you came out eight months ago, but was

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: I felt like a lot of people in my family

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Speaker 5: And all of this even about those comments.

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Speaker 4: Why wasn't that crazy eight months ago? Why didn't Why

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Speaker 5: So that lets me know this is not a concern.

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Speaker 4: This is you trying to, you know, get clout off

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Speaker 2: What's up, y'all, it's your girl of Ana here, and

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Speaker 2: pretty private podcasts, and don't forget to subscribe to my

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Speaker 2: to the show. Have anybody in your family came out

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Speaker 4: No, I feel like in our family, we know we

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Speaker 5: Of course every family does.

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Speaker 4: But before I've come out, I had already known about

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Speaker 5: It's just you know, people just keep moving on. I guess.

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Speaker 5: As far as the cult like the hierarchy of things. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: What happens in this house stays in this house.

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Speaker 4: And he has to approve of whoever you're with. So

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Speaker 4: the men that were married into my family was not

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Speaker 3: He probably wanted to mold the men in the family too.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, because you have to think about it, you know,

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Speaker 4: for that seven eight years, she had all her kids there,

446
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 4: her husband there, and they all lived together, so that

447
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 4: she'd tell you a little bit about.

448
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 5: How things were.

449
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 4: Yo.

450
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 2: You ever seen this movie. I don't know how I

451
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 2: came across this movie. It was a movie of a

452
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 2: black family. And I believe that the son, you know

453
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. The son, he was the son

454
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 2: of one of the aunts, and he was pretty much

455
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 2: making the documentary because the grandfather was sleeping with all

456
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 2: of his daughters, and he was messing around with the daughters,

457
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 2: and it got to a point where one of the

458
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 2: daughters got really hurt. She got hurt, but she was

459
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 2: afraid because if she would have went to the hospital,

460
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: they would have been privy to other things that was

461
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 2: going on with the house and the women were arguing

462
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 2: over the sisters was arguing over the dad. They was

463
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: in love with the dad, and then the mom she

464
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 2: knew about it, but she stayed. But then the dad

465
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 2: ended up leaving the mom and he started a whole

466
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: nother family with his white family and was doing the

467
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 2: same thing. And I was just like, this is fucking crazy.

468
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is identical.

469
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 4: I don't know if you got a chance to watch

470
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 4: each part, but in one of the five part series

471
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 4: that I have on my channel, I go into a

472
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 4: confrontation where my aunt is sitting at the kitchen table

473
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 4: to my grandmother and they're arguing over my grandfather and

474
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 4: he put us out the house that day.

475
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 2: Where do you think if grandfather got this from? Like,

476
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: is this something that has always been done in his family?

477
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,479
Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I'm not that's a good question.

478
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 4: Only you know, when people ask me questions like that,

479
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 4: I always tell them only they have the answers to

480
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 4: those questions.

481
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 5: But another example that I will give is.

482
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 4: Think about when it comes to how well things are hidden,

483
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 4: and when it comes to how we have smart criminals,

484
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 4: think about the douggers. Think about how perfect that looked.

485
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 4: I don't know Douggs, the Duggers that have nineteen kids

486
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 4: in county.

487
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yes, yes, yes, yes.

488
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 5: Yes yes.

489
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've seen that documentary of all

490
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 4: the secrets in pedophilia that went on in their family,

491
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 4: but an incest that went on in their family. But

492
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 4: just think about if you watch TC and watch that show,

493
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 4: how you would never think that any of those things

494
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 4: are going on, which is one of the reasons they

495
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 4: lost the show.

496
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: M you know, ain't no networking get behind that?

497
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 5: Oh no, not at all.

498
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 4: So or you know another example, and this is this

499
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 4: is what this is what blinds people. Let's think about

500
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 4: Ted Bundy for example, right, you would never think had

501
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 4: a family, well educated.

502
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 3: He was good, lucky, good job.

503
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, but this is this is what's crazy. Because

504
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 5: he was good looking.

505
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 4: It it kind of blinded people from the tragedy, the tragedy,

506
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 4: the crazy things he was doing, like killing people, murdering

507
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 4: women like so it just shows you how the world works,

508
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: you know, being good looking and being educated and putting

509
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 4: on a show show because that's what he was doing.

510
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 4: I think he had multiple personalities, honestly, No, he was

511
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 4: a book out for sure. Yeah, it was blinding people.

512
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 4: And so that goes back to my original point. If

513
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 4: you are not well equipped to have the eye for

514
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 4: things when it comes to children.

515
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 5: And trauma, you may never see it and it could

516
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 5: be right in your face.

517
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, why do you think.

518
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: You know, it's one thing for his children to obey him,

519
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 2: But why do you think your grandma allowed that to happen?

520
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 5: Honestly, I think that it was.

521
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 4: Maybe it's fearful of not being having security. I think

522
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 4: back in those times, and she's told me stories like

523
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 4: I remember her telling me a story of her going

524
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 4: back to her mom, telling her mom some things that

525
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 4: you know, was bothering her in her marriage, and she.

526
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 5: Told her, oh, it's going to be okay, go back home.

527
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 4: So stending her back home into whatever, And I feel

528
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 4: that break, And I think that just goes back to

529
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 4: kind of like an example being since to bring you

530
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 4: up examples, how when Anime tried to run away and

531
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 4: her mama called Ike and told him, you know, so

532
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 4: even when you tried to get away.

533
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 5: They back then, it was about security.

534
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 4: It was about making sure that you know, you and

535
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 4: these kids have a home right now. The thing I

536
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 4: think it gets sick when it's a continuation of things,

537
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 4: and honestly, I don't have sympathy for that anymore because

538
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,959
Speaker 4: I feel like I don't even have children yet, but

539
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 4: I have two nephews, I have a niece, I have

540
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 4: three sisters, and I couldn't imagine holding my head down

541
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 4: allowing anything to happen to them and saying I'm gonna

542
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 4: just go on and go with the flow.

543
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 5: I'm mama gonna fight today.

544
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mama is going to fight today, and we're gonna

545
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 4: get up out of this. I'm not going to allow

546
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: that to happen. And then when you think about what

547
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 4: it's done to you, when you see the the the

548
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 4: wounds that it's put on you, you know you want to

549
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 4: protect your daughter and the generations to come from that.

550
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 4: So I'm not sure why she will continue to do

551
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: something like that, but I think.

552
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: You make a good point when it comes to security,

553
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 2: because also with security comes fearfulness. And I feel like

554
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: there when I was looking at your story during research,

555
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: I feel like there were times where she was trying

556
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 2: her best, or I don't know if it was her best,

557
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: but I do feel like she tried, but he would

558
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 2: beat her up really bad because I think because I

559
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: remember you were sharing a story about how he raped

560
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: your older sister and she was he beat up so

561
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: bad she couldn't even move.

562
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 4: So I've always seen and I've always seen my grandmother.

563
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 5: I always started was respect, yeah, but I.

564
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 4: As I got older, I started to see it was

565
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit of I'm not even gonna say fear,

566
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 4: because I think she had overcome that by then. When

567
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 4: I started to see things, I would just say I'm tired,

568
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 4: like I'm just gonna stay, you know.

569
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

570
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 4: And don't get me wrong, it's hard to say because

571
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 4: they have had times where they've taken breaks in their marriage,

572
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 4: and he's been with another family and been on with.

573
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 5: Someone else, got a divorce and everything.

574
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 4: And so my thaying is, what, even if all of

575
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 4: that happened with your kids or whatever made you whatever

576
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 4: you want to go tell your mom at night, what

577
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 4: made you get back into it after getting divorced, after

578
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 4: him leaving and want to be with another family.

579
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: But he said him and your grandma got divorced.

580
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 4: They got divorced, yeah, at one point, and he went

581
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: off and was with the whole another woman and a

582
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 4: whole different family.

583
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: Oh wow, so disappoint at this point, this is a choice.

584
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

585
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so that is you know, as you get

586
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: older and you start taking the titles off of people

587
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: and looking at them as people. You know, yes, your grandma,

588
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 4: but shit, you know, yes your mom, but I would

589
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 4: never I can't even look. You don't see eye to

590
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 4: eye with me as a woman. I would never do

591
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 4: the things or accept the things that you accept. And

592
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: I understand circumstances, but at some point, yeah, my daughter

593
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: would not be able to pass and look at the polygraph,

594
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 4: some of those questions should have never been able to

595
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 4: be passed and been truthful, right, And for them to

596
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: deny and say they don't want to take one to

597
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 4: me even more astonishing.

598
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: You know when you look back, because you talk about

599
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: hearing your grandmother and your aunt, are you over your

600
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: grandfather and looking back like where do you? What were

601
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: your thoughts like even seeing yourself in that moment?

602
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 5: Because that is crazy? So what? Okay?

603
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 4: So the original it all started because my grandfather raped

604
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: my older sister. Once everything happened, you know, there were

605
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 4: conversations that were had. All I kept hearing was the

606
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 4: word rape, rape, rape. I didn't know what it meant,

607
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: so and I was I've always been a person that

608
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 4: looked up to my older sister and wanted to do

609
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 4: everything she do.

610
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 5: She grabbed a red juice. I'm grabbing a red juice.

611
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 3: That was me because that's all, you know, right, I.

612
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: Admired her, always had, and so I'm like, you know,

613
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 4: I keep hearing his words. So I'm like, I want

614
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 4: to get raped too. I'm gonna, you know, not even

615
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 4: knowing what.

616
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 5: I'm saying, I say that.

617
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: My grandmother's like, Okay, now they can't go back over

618
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: to their dad's side because they're basically trying to figure

619
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 4: out how to protect my grandfather. I know I've said

620
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 4: this word. My dad's mom were with trauma all day.

621
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: She manages multiple women shows her.

622
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 5: So she would have spotted. She would have spotted it.

623
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 4: So now they're like, Okay, we need to figure out

624
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 4: how to get them away from them. So something happened

625
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 4: between me and a cousin on my dad's side, But

626
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 4: it was no, it was more like it was an

627
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 4: inappropriate situation.

628
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna.

629
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: Say it was even close to the magnitude to what.

630
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 5: You know we would experience.

631
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 4: Right.

632
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 5: We were just two kids, unattended.

633
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 4: So she's like, okay, well we're going to use that

634
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 4: situation and we're going to say they can't come over

635
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 4: there anymore. So my mom did say, and I'm fair.

636
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 5: In this situation. I say the truth.

637
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 4: She did say, that's the only thing they have left

638
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 4: to their dad. I really don't want to take them away.

639
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 4: At first, she did, That's what she said at first.

640
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 4: But so my aunt sitting there crying, crying like, you know,

641
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: my dad, I can't go to jail for this.

642
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 5: At us, she gonna go over there. She talked too much.

643
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 5: She can go over there and tell the people, you know.

644
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 5: So she like, we gotta kill her, We have to

645
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 5: kill her. She's looking at me myself.

646
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 4: My mom start crying, like, were not killing my daughter?

647
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 4: Da da, So my So, all of this is going on.

648
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 4: My grandmother's standing in front of the oven. Where would

649
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: your grandfather at my grandfather's upstairs. And if you've ever

650
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 4: been to my house, any of my high school friends,

651
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: you all know my grandfather always stayed upstairs, or he said,

652
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 4: at the first chair at the kitchen table. So my

653
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 4: grandmother looked at my aunt and said, you know, you

654
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 4: are balling and crying doing all of this. You would

655
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 4: think this is somebody you were in relation, you know,

656
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 4: having relations with, Like, is what is wrong with you?

657
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 4: Like she was beating on the table and just screaming

658
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: and doing a lot of things that like this show man.

659
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: Right, But do your grandma not know what was going on?

660
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: She do know what's going on, but I guess she

661
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: was a shocked, like girl.

662
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 4: No, I think at one point whatever relations they were

663
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 4: having had stalled, had stalled because that's his as they

664
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: got older, you know, you're getting boyfriends, you're getting you know,

665
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 4: So that's why he has to be in liking of

666
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 4: whoever you're with, because he he has to have an

667
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: attachment to you.

668
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 5: Just say, her man didn't like her dad. She ain't

669
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 5: gonna be around her father as much. You know what

670
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 5: I'm trying to say.

671
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 4: Right, right, So so my grandfather. So she told my grandmother,

672
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 4: you know, that is her man, that's her man. Like

673
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 4: she like, you're right, Nope, that's my man. So my

674
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 4: grandmother like, okay, well we're gonna see about that. She said,

675
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 4: she she called him, she said TC she called him downstairs,

676
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 4: and my my aunt hop said from the table, and

677
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 4: she says, I'm sick of this shit. You know, you're

678
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: gonna have to choose a da da da, you know.

679
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 4: So they both crying and he kicked me, my mom,

680
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 4: my sister, my grandmother kicked us all out of the

681
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: house that day and she told him, she told her

682
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: little do you know he bought this house for me

683
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 4: because we had just he had just bought the house

684
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 4: that we were arguing in, And she said, yeah, he

685
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 4: bought this house for me, and yeah, that's that's the

686
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 4: same house that she's.

687
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 5: In right now now.

688
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: One of my family members, her daughter, she was like, oh, yeah,

689
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 4: she's mad because my grandfather gave us this house. And

690
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 4: I'm just like, girl, First of all, I would never

691
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 4: be mad about that, And secondly, that has nothing to

692
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 4: do with the allegations.

693
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 5: It's a distraction to what.

694
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 4: I'm picture is right, you know what I'm about a

695
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 4: house girl, right, and I'm.

696
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 5: Singing with no kids. I don't need no help, right,

697
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 5: I'm living my life. Go ahead.

698
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 2: It's about him sexually abusing every woman in this family.

699
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 5: Exactly right.

700
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: It's so heartbreaking, it is.

701
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 5: And I've learned to block that out because.

702
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 3: Everything because you're deflecting. Now, that's what that is.

703
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 5: It's deflecting everything. Is a deflection. Yeah.

704
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: And I even remember you saying that you never saw it,

705
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: but you heard your grandfather be on intimate with your aunts.

706
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 5: Absolutely, my sister did, I did my mom did? We? Yeah? Definitely? Wow, definitely.

707
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 2: You know there's a special place in hell for niggas

708
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: like that. Yo, Because I interviewed this other lady, and

709
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: the funny thing is she from Detroit. I'm gonna give

710
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: you her name because you never know, y'all might have

711
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 2: some type of connection. But her I think the men

712
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: and her family were sleeping with all of the kids.

713
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: And her mom is actually her sister. Yes, like ih,

714
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: so I give you her information. A really cool woman,

715
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 2: like super down on earth, like so all the cousins

716
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 2: and stuff was born out of incest.

717
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 5: Wow.

718
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: And I asked her because you know, obviously respectfully, because

719
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: I really do respect her. But she doesn't look like

720
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: anything was wrong with her. She was like yeah, she said,

721
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: I'm the one that wasn't affected.

722
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 5: Wow. Yeah, that's a story to tell.

723
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised that any of the aunts or anybody

724
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: get pregnant by your grandfather.

725
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: Not that I'm aware of. They know not to give

726
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 4: me no information, right.

727
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 3: Because we know where you're gonna go tell like as

728
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 3: you should.

729
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 5: Wow.

730
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: Now you would say that the older women would coach

731
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: the younger women or the younger girls in the family.

732
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 3: So what would that look.

733
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: Like, because did you feel like it was normal or

734
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: did they feel or did they teach you that this

735
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: is another way of expressing love.

736
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: They teach you that you don't get to tell him no,

737
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: the word not doesn't exist in this house.

738
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 5: It is what one of the things that they would say.

739
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 4: And then when they would for unicate and do weird shit,

740
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 4: they would call it indulging. I'm not sure what that with.

741
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 4: I really think it was some demonic things going on.

742
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 5: To be honest with you.

743
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 3: Yo, she said the same thing.

744
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: I swear to God, I'm gonna see I'm gonna send

745
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: you the video. I mean, I'm gona send you the

746
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: clip for you to listen to the show, and then

747
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get y'all in, y'all, get y'all connected. But yeah,

748
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: she said the same thing.

749
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, they would call it indulging and just even down

750
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 4: to I think that to me the most traumatic. I

751
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: think the most heartbreaking thing for me is the most traumatic,

752
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 4: most I can't things I can't even describe in words

753
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: as far as trauma, and everything I can even name

754
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 4: is my mom and her husband. Like my mother cost

755
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 4: me the most trauma, and that to me, when I

756
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 4: look at my knees and I look out how much

757
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: I love her and what I do for her, and

758
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 4: I shake the world up for her, I just don't.

759
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 4: It lets me know that the love that my mom

760
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 4: has for me or had for me was never a

761
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 4: mother daughter relationship. And that was because you cannot have

762
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 4: a mother daughter relationship with someone that your husband wants

763
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 4: to be with or fantasizes about or is molesting and

764
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 4: raping and then impregnates. You don't look at her as

765
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 4: a daughter at that point. So it's like, you know,

766
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 4: my father's deceased, he drowned, and like Michigan when I

767
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 4: was eight months, and my mom just completely is gone

768
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 4: in the mind or maybe this is just who she is,

769
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: and when I have conversations with hers, I want to

770
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 4: be fair, So I'm like, I'm not even gonna tell

771
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 4: the story. I let my aunt, I let my mother

772
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: and whoever have a voice. If you do feel like

773
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: it's something that you want to say or that you

774
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 4: know a piece that maybe I don't know that you

775
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 4: want to let him know to add in there whatever,

776
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 4: because I'm coming with truth.

777
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 5: I didn't have to do that, you know, I didn't

778
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 5: have to be that fair.

779
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 3: What's your relationship like with your mom now? Like, do

780
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: y'all still keep in contact?

781
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 5: Absolutely?

782
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 4: Not?

783
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 5: Girl help, No. No.

784
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: The only reason why I ask because I do feel

785
00:38:59,120 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: like one thing I.

786
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: Will say, just after watching your interviews and like doing

787
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: research on you, you are fair like you want somebody, You

788
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: want people, all the parties involved to come up and

789
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: be like, if I'm not telling the truth, then say

790
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: I want to share this platform with you. So that's

791
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: the reason why I ask, because I do feel like

792
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: there were times with your mom that, even though I

793
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: don't condone what she did, like I feel like she

794
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: was battling with the decisions that she was making because

795
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: she knew it wasn't right.

796
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 4: My mama was battling those decisions like a motherfucker.

797
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, That's why I asked, Like did she reach out

798
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: to you or something or just like I don't know,

799
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: because I really feel like she knows this is not right.

800
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 5: I think she do too.

801
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 4: But the thing is is, again, the love for your

802
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 4: daughter should trump anybody else.

803
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 5: All of these happened. But this is the thing.

804
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 4: You cannot really come out and say, my daughter is right, yes,

805
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 4: because you're just as wrong as.

806
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 3: That, because that's men that you had a part in it, exactly.

807
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 4: So she doesn't even even if she grew and she said, hey,

808
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 4: I love my daughter, I don't know what was wrong, whatever,

809
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 4: you still couldn't just be that way even if you

810
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 4: wanted to, because now you you know, zero point one

811
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 4: finger three pointed back at you at this.

812
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 5: Point, right right?

813
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: And then is your grandfather still alive?

814
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 4: My grandfather? Yeah, yeah, he's still alive. And that's who

815
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: she's protecting too, her father, her parents.

816
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 5: Right.

817
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: Do you think it's still going on to this day.

818
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 5: I think she has a weird love for my grandfather.

819
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 5: My mom love my mom had you.

820
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 4: Know, incess relationships with my grandfather for a while that

821
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: I feel like me, okay, so me, my mom and

822
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: my sister, and I'm just gonna say my sister's husband too,

823
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 4: because he was he was a part of the face time.

824
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 5: We were all on face time and.

825
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 4: We were just going to talk about everything that happened,

826
00:40:54,160 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 4: and she just started to her and my sister really

827
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 4: have a right. They really never really got along, so

828
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 4: they just going at it. So normally every time they

829
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 4: go at it, I'm more quiet. I'm just kind of

830
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 4: breaking them up. So on FaceTime, I'm like quiet, I'm

831
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: just like, hey, you know, y'all chill out.

832
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 5: And my mom like, that's.

833
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 4: My dad, that's my daddy, that's mine and he got

834
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 4: money and it's plenty more of that where that came from.

835
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 4: And I mean she's talking like she's talking to somebody

836
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 4: about her men, like what do you mean that's your daddy?

837
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 4: And because I guess my sister, my grandfather had loned

838
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 4: my sister some money, and she's.

839
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 5: Like, give my daddy's money back. It's plenty more where

840
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 5: that came from. And we got this and that's my dad,

841
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 5: not yours, And I'm.

842
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 4: Like, what the hell is wrong with So now I'm

843
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 4: really quiet because I'm evaluating my mama at this point,

844
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 4: like what the fuck is over there wrong with you?

845
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: Right?

846
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: And then she just really they just started cussing each

847
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 4: other out, and my sister's crying because at this point,

848
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 4: I am hurt because I know that my.

849
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 5: Mom don't got no love for my sister.

850
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 4: The where she's coming at her no love there, and

851
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,479
Speaker 4: I think there's no love there, not because she don't

852
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 4: love I think my mom love her grandkids.

853
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 5: I do think that.

854
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 4: I think that I think there's some sort of love there,

855
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 4: but I think that she don't love my sister at all.

856
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 4: The way she came to her on that phone and

857
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 4: talking to her like that and not even paying attention

858
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 4: to the focus of the call is everything that's going

859
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 4: on on the recording.

860
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 5: She also said she was going to.

861
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 4: Die by die behind whatever, you know, die with those secrets.

862
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 4: She's never going to come out. She's never going to

863
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 4: tell the truth. She's never gonna say it. She's going

864
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 4: to protect her dad, her parents because she's just as

865
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: far at fault as they are. Wow.

866
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 5: So that leaves me standing alone. But God told me,

867
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 5: hell not.

868
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 3: Now, you're never alone. That's a fact you.

869
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 4: Are, yes, And then boom, I'm talking to you and I'm.

870
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, because God is blessing you with so many big

871
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: platforms and the way. That's why I was like, we

872
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: got to make this happen because there's so many people

873
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: who lives.

874
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: Are you going to change?

875
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: And like, we gotta get this out there more because

876
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: the fact that incest is so is the fact that

877
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 2: it is still going on to this day, like right

878
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: in our faces. Like it's a really scary but necessary

879
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: conversation to have.

880
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 5: It is.

881
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say this to the women in the

882
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 4: world from me being in a situation like this. When

883
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: you have children, you cannot date only for you, right.

884
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 5: Facts you have to date for you and your kids.

885
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: Reason being, if I'm dating someone and red flex come

886
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 4: up and they affect me, they only affect me, right,

887
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 4: these are memories I'll tell my daughter when I'm with

888
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 4: my true king. Right, But when you have kids and

889
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 4: maybe one of his red flex may be pedophilia. And

890
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 4: then now this random person that you're dating is you

891
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 4: know that trauma is not on your children if you're

892
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 4: not paying attention. So you kind of gotta watch for

893
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: you have around your kids and you and your kids.

894
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 4: So if you meet him somewhere and then I find place,

895
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 4: keep it moving.

896
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you share that your beasts beginning very early

897
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: in your life. Are there certain memories that still stay

898
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: with you to this day? And do you find it harder?

899
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: Do you find it hard to like revisit because I

900
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: can only imagine, like having conversations with myself other platforms,

901
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: like it has to be triggering at times, like do

902
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: you do.

903
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 3: Things to prepare for these conversations.

904
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 4: I'm saying silence in darkness, like I put all the

905
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 4: lights off. I'll I know, I isolate myself, Like that's

906
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: what really gives me peace, because I have a lot

907
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 4: going on in my mind, you know, I be you

908
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 4: know this is.

909
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,479
Speaker 5: It has been a lot the last year.

910
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 4: I'll say, yeah, and so I would just in prayer,

911
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 4: you know, And that's really what I do. And if

912
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 4: I they need some type of counsel, I have a

913
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 4: lot of resources on campus that a lot of professors

914
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 4: that I'm cool with mentors, so I can definitely go

915
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 4: talk to them.

916
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 5: So that's pretty much what I do. And as far

917
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 5: as these conversations, I don't really prepare.

918
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 4: Because I feel like it's so raw and so real

919
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 4: for me that it flows out naturally. Right.

920
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And I know you're very active at your school.

921
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: So what are the professors and stuff say when they

922
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: found out about your story or just your your college friends. Yes,

923
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: so they were extremely supportive, extremely supportives my girl.

924
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: Yes, the Southern University, not the real TSU. The Tennessee State.

925
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 4: But they're not supportive. They have shared it with their colleagues.

926
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 4: We've had talked about getting me on KTSU. Yeah, so

927
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 4: it's it's been liberating.

928
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 5: They've been so supportive my peers.

929
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 4: Like they've had people on campus have come to me

930
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 4: and say, hey, I would like to come on your channel.

931
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 4: So it's it's gotten me attraction that at school there

932
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 4: like is that that rod that was on that interview? Right?

933
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 5: Right? But yeah, so supportive.

934
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: I really appreciate them just having my back.

935
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 5: Honestly.

936
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 3: Now, how old were you when the abuse started?

937
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 5: Four?

938
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: It started at four, and now you're thirty. Yes, And

939
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: when did the abuse end?

940
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 5: Middle school? Like six, sixth grade? Seventh grade?

941
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 4: Oh wow, because he went to the military. Uh, when

942
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 4: I was in seventh grade.

943
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: And at that time, do you think anybody outside of

944
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 2: the family noticed anything or.

945
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 5: Like absolutely absolutely.

946
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 4: So this may be a little Tami, but you know,

947
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 4: one of the major things is so he went he

948
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 4: went to camp, came back, and my mom went to

949
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 4: the graduation. Now this is back in the oh, I

950
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 4: don't know, I would say six o seven oh seven.

951
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, oh, seven oh eight.

952
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 4: She gets a camporder and takes it and she's she's

953
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 4: recording the graduation.

954
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 5: So we didn't go.

955
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 4: So I'm watching the graduation or whatever, and this is

956
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: my first time having anybody around me that had any

957
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 4: type of military experience, so I thought it was actually cool, right,

958
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 4: So I'm watching it or whatever, and.

959
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 5: There's multiple videos of it.

960
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 4: So a video pops up of them having sex enchanting

961
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 4: my name. So this is back when, And I just

962
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 4: want to be clear because I don't know. People think

963
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 4: I was just watching my mama tapes. Now, this back

964
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 4: when before we even had iPhones and flip phones and

965
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 4: all that. This is when we still had the rumors

966
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 4: of the kicks and shit. So I didn't really know

967
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 4: how to get back to the original video. And then

968
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 4: we know black mamas know when you've been in touch station.

969
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 5: So I'm like, I don't want to know. I've seen it.

970
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 5: I watched it.

971
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 4: If I'm trying to go back to find the graduate

972
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 4: the military graduation. But I tell my grandmother, I said, Granny,

973
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 4: you know, I seen this and it sounded like they

974
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 4: were saying my name, you know. So my aunt is there,

975
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 4: and she said, so she my aunt didn't look surprised,

976
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 4: so she said, I told her, I don't know if

977
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 4: my grandmother talked to her or whatever whatever the case

978
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 4: may be.

979
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 5: But now I'm looking back.

980
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 4: Even that, like I was a kid then I was

981
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 4: only eleven, so you know, but even that moment should

982
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 4: have been a CPS moment.

983
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 5: That should have been a moment.

984
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 3: Intimate with your nigga.

985
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 5: Yes, and then.

986
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 4: Leading to how I even got impregnated, because you know,

987
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 4: when I'm in sixth grade, You're not just coming in

988
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 4: my room and raping me.

989
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 5: It's not going down like that, right, So I would

990
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 5: always lock my door.

991
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 4: And one day I woke up and I could blurrily

992
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 4: see them and like it's almost like I was coming

993
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 4: out of like a deep sleep, kind of blurry, but

994
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 4: I saw them leaving out, and my underwear were down,

995
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 4: and there was a substance on me going to my

996
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: grandmother again my aunt. I could tell there's some type

997
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 4: of guilt or anger there because she's screaming at my grandmother, like,

998
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 4: you know, saying, like you know she loved you so much,

999
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 4: you need to stop lying. I heard you tell her

1000
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 4: the truth, She said, you know what the substance was,

1001
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 4: You know what it is she said, and they're giving

1002
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 4: her the same things y'all gave to us, which is

1003
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: chloroform and prepple fall. And that's how I even know

1004
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 4: the names of the medication, because she they were arguing

1005
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 4: about the medication that day. That that day that you know,

1006
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 4: I came in and told her about the substance. So

1007
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 4: my aunt told me, when you go home tonight, don't

1008
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 4: go to sleep.

1009
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 5: Stay up. They're coming to your room. Stay up. So

1010
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 5: that's exactly what I did. I stayed up the.

1011
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 4: On Behold, I came in my room, so I said,

1012
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 4: why are y'all coming in my room? Oh, we just

1013
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 4: wanted to make sure you were sleeping, okay, sleeping okay like,

1014
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 4: So that's when I started to and that's when me

1015
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 4: and my mom relationship really weakened because I knew I

1016
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 4: couldn't trust her at that point, I knew that I

1017
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 4: was totally.

1018
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 5: Not safe with her at all.

1019
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 4: And not long after that, my sister and I'm jumping,

1020
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 4: but my sister moved out, I would say, when she

1021
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 4: was in the ninth grade and never came back.

1022
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 3: So you m h was he messing with her as well?

1023
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 4: No, My that was my sister had an experience with

1024
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 4: a total different man. So my sister went through the

1025
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 4: same things I went through, but it was with a

1026
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 4: prior boyfriend to her the man she's with now.

1027
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: Because your mom was allowing men to come and have

1028
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: sex with y'all.

1029
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely made my sister like my older sister. She

1030
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 4: would make her sit out and watch porn videos and

1031
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 4: all kind of stuff. And even then, like even back,

1032
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 4: like I will say, I'm.

1033
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 5: The person that tried to fight. Didn't have a lot

1034
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 5: of leeway, which was my dad's mother.

1035
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 4: We were taken away from them for seven years, and

1036
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 4: my grandmother never trusted my mother with us. I don't

1037
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 4: think she really. I think she understood grieving more than

1038
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 4: my mother did. And I think that my grandmother because

1039
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 4: my grandmother has lost my father at twenty one, but

1040
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 4: my uncle, her youngest son, also got hit by a

1041
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 4: car the six so she understands grieving. And I think

1042
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 4: she tried to help my mom. I know she tried

1043
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 4: to help my mom as much as she could. She's

1044
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 4: put her in homes, got her cars, you know, pay

1045
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 4: for every cheerleading camp, band, camp, school clothes, always has exactly.

1046
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 4: But my mom felt like my grandmother was in her

1047
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 4: business every time she would speak on you know, who

1048
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 4: is this man that you're with and whatever guilty and

1049
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 4: so you know, it's just and even things like my

1050
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 4: my family would and that's another thing.

1051
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 5: My dad's side and my mom always fought.

1052
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 4: Like my when I was like in second grade, my

1053
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 4: mom and my aunt got into a fight, and I knew,

1054
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 4: I knew, I knew I was alone all my life.

1055
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 5: I knew something was wrong with my mom and.

1056
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 4: My life because my after my mom and my aunt

1057
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 4: was fighting, she said, that's why your brother did. But

1058
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 4: I'm thinking in my mind, like isn't that my dad?

1059
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 4: So I'm standing there just looking that would that kind

1060
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 4: of grew me up like that, that timent at that moment,

1061
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 4: because my mom did used to tell me, oh, she

1062
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 4: loves my dad and all these things. So when she

1063
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 4: said that, it kind of just really made me look

1064
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 4: at my mom different so young like that Mimi.

1065
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 5: No, that was just like what the hell? You know?

1066
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 5: And maybe it was the other DNA and me.

1067
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: Right, I just couldn't imagine, like I think about like

1068
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 2: what you said earlier, like like I love my nieces, right,

1069
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: and I just couldn't imagine allowing something to happen to

1070
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: any child in my presence, and like you share some

1071
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: stories about how she will just hold you back while

1072
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: her husband would take advantage of you, And to me,

1073
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: I'm just like, what the hell does your father do

1074
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: to you to break you like that to the point

1075
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: where you have no soul?

1076
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, because that's a.

1077
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: Different type of evil, Like that's that's it's really fucked up.

1078
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 5: It is the majority of that happening Alba crossing apartments.

1079
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 4: In the spek in Michigan, And that was a horrific

1080
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 4: time to me just because like.

1081
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 3: And the fact that you remember everything is so vividly.

1082
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 4: It's so vivid because it was so scary and so

1083
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 4: traumatic for me at the time, Like it's something that

1084
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 4: would that visual will never leave me. But I never understood,

1085
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 4: like I will never understand how mother can hold her

1086
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: baby's hands down and her feet down and allow him

1087
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 4: to beat her or you know, even when I spoke

1088
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 4: on I didn't speak on this in my five fight series,

1089
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 4: but I spoke on this, and I think it was

1090
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 4: the ones in order for an interview, putting the luge

1091
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 4: down there, you know, in my bathroom area and telling

1092
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 4: me she know it doesn't hurt because she put the

1093
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 4: whole bottle. You know, things like that are things that

1094
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 4: will never leave me, or even going to the extent,

1095
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 4: and I'm just being honest because this is where I'm real.

1096
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 5: Of me pushing my face in his ain'tal area.

1097
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 4: Things like that, you know, those are things that will

1098
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 4: never leave me.

1099
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 5: And those are I think memories and just wounds.

1100
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 4: That I think forever changed that relationship before it even

1101
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 4: got to blossom and bloom.

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Speaker 5: And I think that my mom sees that now.

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it's way too late, girl, and you

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00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 4: want to it's too late, and you know I have

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Speaker 4: I understand now that there's mentors, there's other women who

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00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 4: have a similar story that it is farther than I

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00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 4: am that could help me, you know, like coaches. There's

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00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 4: so many other women that have reached out and that's

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00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 4: there for me that I just need guidance at this point.

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Speaker 4: You know, thank you for bringing me here, and that's why,

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00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 4: that's why I'm still gonna be a child of God

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Speaker 4: and say I love you forgiving me life, but I

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00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 4: don't respect you as a mother, as a woman, and

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Speaker 4: we do not see I die.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's a fact.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I don't have no relationship with my mother because

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00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: of the things that she has done to me. But

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Speaker 2: I also believe that, you know, mothering can come in

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00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 2: different ways. Doesn't have to come from a person who

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00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: gave you birth. So mothering can be from your homegirl,

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00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 2: it can be from an older woman, somebody at school,

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00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: like you can get mother. Sometimes you can get mother

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00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 2: from a man, you know what I'm saying. So I

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00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: definitely agree with you on that. Another thing that you

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Speaker 2: mentioned in your story that on top of you being

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00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 2: drug she was still in the drugs from the hospital

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Speaker 2: she was working at.

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Speaker 5: Yes, she was working. She was working in the Northwood.

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00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 4: And that is a psychiatric hospital and stealing the sedate

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00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 4: of drugs.

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00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 5: And it was a.

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00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 4: Coreformis assumptance that you can put like on the cloth.

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00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 4: So that was and I had one of those doors,

1134
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 4: like those ninety doors you can get in with a

1135
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 4: butter knife. Yeah, so that's how they was getting in

1136
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 4: my room and I was already sleep. So then when

1137
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 4: you put that under their nose, it puts them in

1138
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 4: a deeper sleep. I don't know if you've ever seen

1139
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 4: the movie Taken, Yeah, and do you remember.

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00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 5: She was under the bed.

1141
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 4: They put it that towel over her face and she

1142
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 4: woke up in that room.

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Speaker 5: That's a real thing.

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00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 4: And I want people to know that this is when

1145
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 4: people what do you think, these directors and these people

1146
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 4: who are in the industry, when they make these movies,

1147
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 4: they get the ideas from somewhere, you know, we axactly

1148
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 4: and so these even if you're at a party, there's

1149
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 4: so many college women that can say, Hey, I'm a

1150
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 4: survivor of getting a roofie in my drink and not

1151
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 4: knowing what happened. You know, So these sex drugs and

1152
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 4: date rape drugs, and you know they're real.

1153
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 5: And and and it's.

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00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 4: And honestly, what this is now called what the turn?

1155
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 4: Because what was going on, it's sex trafficking. If I'm

1156
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 4: having a baby at twelve in the house, there's people

1157
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 4: men raping little girls. This is just a sex callt

1158
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 4: sex trafficking situation going on.

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00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 5: And I think back then.

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Speaker 4: People were not looking for it because it sounds so

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00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 4: unheard of. And now that we know that this is

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Speaker 4: a billion dollar business today in the United States, there

1163
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 4: is a girl being taken taken every second.

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Speaker 3: Every every second.

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00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 4: Yes, So I mean, watch your kids make sure when

1166
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 4: you know that you watch your kids, that you have

1167
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 4: relationships with the teachers and with their coaches, because it matters.

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Speaker 2: This concludes part one of this week's episode, Who Child.

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Speaker 2: I know y'all are going to be emailing me and

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Speaker 2: dming me and texting me, so please let me know

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Speaker 2: what you think about this week's episode. I am definitely

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Speaker 2: looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Part two will be

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Speaker 2: dropping next week, same time, same place, and until next time, everyone, take.

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Speaker 3: Care of yourself later.

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