1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: The second hour of play, and Buck kicks off right now. 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Clay, I almost set of Trump 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: and Kamala kicks off her now, because. 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: That's what's the top of mind. We're in the midst 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: of the absolute peak of. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: The election cycle, and I just ran up a flight 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: of stairs at light speed because I realized that we 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: were in a commercial break that was coming to an end. 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: So let me say this as I am catching my 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: breath here at Play. Some of the things that we 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: are seeing from the Kamala campaign you would absolutely expect, 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: which would be the phrases about how she's going to 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: help the middle class and all the stuff about how 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: she hates Donald Trump. 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: One area where I think she has particular. 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: Weakness is on the economy, because I view it as such. 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Kamala has been the vice president for four years. She 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: has been part of an administration that has been the 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: steward of the economy. Now, if we're gonna play the 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: game that they always do, which is it was Obama's 21 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: economy when it's good, It's Trump's economy when it's bad, 22 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: or you know whatever, they like to pretend that you 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: can't actually ascribe any economic good things or bad things 24 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: to any individual administration. That's nonsense that I think is 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: just an indicator of how much the Kamala Biden economy 26 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: has been an absolute mess. So when Bill Clinton is 27 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: up there in Muskegan, is that right? 28 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: How do you do? I think that's right. 29 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, in Michiganian Miskegan Heights, Michigan. I just don't want 30 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: to offend the good people of Miskegan Heights by saying 31 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: it wrong Miskegan Heights, Michigan. 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: Bill Clinton's like, well, yeah, I mean the economy was 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: better under Donald Trump, but this is eighteen play it. 34 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: I don't think it's right to say that people have 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: to vote for Donald Trump because the economy was better there. 36 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: I don't believe that. 37 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: Not a good enough reason apparently to vote because the 38 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 1: economy was better. You know, they've they've put out all 39 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: of these different Democrats. They wish they didn't have to 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: have the current occupant of the White House, Joe Biden, 41 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: as somebody who is a surrogate for Kamala out there, 42 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: but they do clay on the economic issue. I saw 43 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: the Governor of New Jersey and I'll grab some of 44 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: this audio for everybody in a back and forth with 45 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: one of the guys on the squawk Box, the NBC 46 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: show Forget I forget his name, but Kernin, I think 47 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: his name is Kernin. 48 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 2: And he asked the governor of New Jersey. He goes, Hey, 49 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: what is the Kamala economic policy that you like? 50 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 4: Not? 51 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: Donald Trump? Is Hitler? 52 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: Not? 53 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: You know, this is our democracy. These are meetingless phrases. 54 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: Okay, And just to be clear, as they're lecturing us 55 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: about fascism and autocracy, every autocracy, every fascist. There's a 56 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: reason they call it the People's Republic of China. There's 57 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: a reason why they call it the democratic People's Republic 58 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: of North Korea. Right, they try to take the language 59 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: of democracy, human rights, dignity, et cetera and use it 60 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: for the worst regimes possible. Using the words means absolutely nothing. 61 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: In fact, it's often a tell the people who are. 62 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: Like, we're all about democracy. 63 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: Every dictator says that they're about the people always. But 64 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: Clay when he tries to get some push or when 65 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: he tries to push the government of Jersey Phil Murphy, 66 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: who's a big Democrat, but it was also a Wall 67 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: Street guy. That's the whole point, Right, He's a former 68 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: Wall wasn't he a senior guy at Goldman Sachs. He's 69 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: trying to push him on what the best Kama policy is. 70 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: He can't think of one and every economic policy that 71 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: there's any discussion of from Kamala. Harris right, whether it's 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: taxing unrealized gains. 73 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: What is what is fair taxation? 74 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: This is she's gotten away with an entire campaign of 75 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: saying we're gonna, you know, make people pay their fair share, 76 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: which is an obamaism by the way, Obama used to 77 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: say that too means nothing, right, I mean this is 78 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: this is very much a time when I think people 79 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: could go back and read Orwell's Animal Farm and they 80 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: will understand the slogans. It's all, of course meant to be. 81 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: It's really a biting satire of the Soviets. But saying 82 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: things like pay your fair share, what is that? It 83 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: means nothing, It's it's whatever you say it is. And 84 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: I just think that people are recognizing the Kamala campaign 85 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: has no economic policy that they're willing. 86 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: To say out loud. 87 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 5: I there are several stats about the way that we 88 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 5: focus on taxation now that drive me crazy. But one 89 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 5: of them, Buck is you know over half of Americans 90 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 5: don't pay a dollar in federal income tax. If you 91 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 5: are listening to us right now, and you pay one 92 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 5: dollar in federal income tax, you are in the top 93 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 5: half of tax payers in America. So when they run 94 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 5: around and try to say, oh, we've got to make 95 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 5: sure the rich pay their fair share, I believe the 96 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 5: top twenty percent pays eighty percent of all federal income tax. 97 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 5: That seems way more than a fair share to me. 98 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 5: And look, I've been in the camp where I didn't 99 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 5: make very much money and I didn't have to pay 100 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 5: very much in taxes, and now fortunately I make a 101 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 5: lot more money. But I don't feel like the money 102 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 5: that I'm giving to the federal government is in any 103 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 5: way by and large being spent well. I think that 104 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 5: I could spend it better to try to help America 105 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 5: to a large extent than the federal government could. And 106 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 5: this is why, big picture, our federal budget is broken. 107 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 5: And I love the idea of I would vote for 108 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 5: Trump just based on Hey, Elon Musk, go look at 109 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 5: the federal budget and figure out what we can just 110 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 5: try and cut. Because Elon says he thinks he could 111 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 5: find two trillion dollars in savings in our federal budget. 112 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 5: Wouldn't you like to have somebody as smart as Elon 113 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 5: Musk just going through the federal budget line by line. 114 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 5: He fired seventy five percent of the people at Twitter, 115 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 5: and the company works just as well as it did before. 116 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: I actually percentage of federal he's going to be fire. Yeah. 117 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people that are making real 118 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: money off of X now no longer Twitter. Yes, but 119 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: that was never the case before. Twitter was getting a 120 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: free ride off of everybody else. Now you're really a 121 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: partner with Twitter, and you also have free speech as 122 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: a result of it. I think Elon Musk going in 123 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: and with a chainsaw in the federal budget. You have 124 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: to do it, and it would be scary to some 125 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: people right the notion of how much he would cut 126 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: when you'd start look at what cutting a trillion or 127 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: two trillion dollars out of the federal budget would look like. 128 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: It's going to touch things that people don't want to 129 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: be touched. This is one of the problems we have. 130 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: You cannot win in American politics right now. If you 131 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: are serious about tackling the debt, and if you really 132 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: want to start to pay it down. You cannot win. 133 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: You will not win. Donald Bright very in favor of 134 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: all entitlements. 135 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: That's the reality. 136 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: What you need is effectively a shock therapy where Elon 137 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: Musk and his team, because he would build a team 138 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: to do this, comes in and they go, we are 139 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: going to unshackle the productivity and private economy of the 140 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: American people from this be a myth of federal spending 141 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: and then the prosperity and the explosion of real wealth, 142 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: not money printing, which is just meant to paper over 143 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: the fact that we're giving more to people than we 144 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: are producing in some sectors. The money printing is a 145 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: death sentence for our economy over the long term. Elon 146 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: comes in under a Trump administration dramatically cuts that budget, 147 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: they will freak out. They will say it at the end, 148 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: but they've already said that we're all hitler, So who 149 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: really cares? And Clay would be remarkable. I mean, you'd 150 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: see it would be a little bit like Calvin Coolidge 151 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: back in the day, right, Calvin Coolidge brought income tax 152 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: rates down enormously, actually cut spending, cut the budget, and 153 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: they were always all cats and dogs living together. Mass 154 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: hysteria then, of course not Roaring twenties, massive economic advancements 155 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: and a boom. I think that we could have a 156 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of prosperity and a much better long term 157 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: financial security as a nation for all people if you 158 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: unleashed Elon in that regard. But remember, I think when 159 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: was Bastiat the law written. I think it's seventeenth century 160 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: and Clay he was writing on the fiction of the 161 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: state as everyone thinking they can live at the expense 162 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: of everyone else, right, And it's true, it's true, true, 163 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: that's what the Democrats offer. They offer the fiction that 164 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: you can be effectively. Oh no, sorry, eighteen fifty. I 165 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: think seven hundred, eighteen hundreds, eighteen fifty. But that's what 166 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: they offer, that everyone else will pay for all of 167 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: your stuff. I yes, And this is this is a 168 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: long range conversation. Five days we get an important election, 169 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: and the argument for Trump on the economy has already 170 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: been made, because we had the best economy in the 171 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: history of the United States when he was in for 172 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: his first term, and that's why there is a nostalgic 173 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: desire for that to return. And all of their attacks 174 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: on Trump are predicated on COVID happening and largely blue 175 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: state and blue cities shutting down and forcing everybody to 176 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: go home and not work. February twenty twenty are the 177 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: greatest economic numbers that have ever existed. 178 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 5: Do you miss two and a half percent mortgages? Do 179 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 5: you miss inflation at one and a half percent two percent? 180 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 5: Do you miss your wages significantly outpacing the grate of inflation? 181 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 5: That is real money in your pocket for white, Black, 182 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 5: Asian and Hispanic individuals. If you miss all of that, 183 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 5: I believe Trump can return it if he's given the opportunity. 184 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 5: But what Buck's saying is so important. Whatever happens the 185 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 5: next four years, we have major structural issues that have 186 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 5: to be addressed over the next generation, over the next 187 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 5: two generations. If you're around our age, Buck, let's say 188 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 5: you're forty and you hope to live into your eighties, 189 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 5: I have zero faith that Social Security as it exists 190 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 5: now is going to be my safety net when I'm 191 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 5: eighty years old living in the United States. Zero Because 192 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 5: the math just does a math, and at some point 193 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 5: that becomes a big, huge, massive obstacle towards economic growth 194 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 5: that we have to reckon with. But in the short term, 195 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 5: Trump is the right economic answer. But make mistake, no 196 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 5: matter who the president is, the challenges are still going 197 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 5: to exist in the future, and candidates by and large 198 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 5: only want to focus on the present. They don't really 199 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 5: want to focus on the long long range. But the 200 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 5: way to solve this, I thought Art Leffert Laffer, who 201 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 5: was on with us, recently said, look, the growth rate 202 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 5: of the economy is the key. That's really how you 203 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 5: put America in a different stratosphere. We have to get 204 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 5: up to four percent growth. We have to get up 205 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 5: to four percent plus growth, because then the amount of 206 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 5: money being brought in on all fronts. Rising tide lifts 207 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 5: all boats. It's not a complicated economic picture. 208 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: And there's also the the energy. People can ask, well, 209 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: what would what would Trump do? What's different? There's the 210 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: cutting of spending, the elimination of regulation enclage. When you see, 211 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: you know you run a business, and you know we're 212 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: running a business together. Now you see the stuff you 213 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: have to deal with that is really just all non 214 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: productive rent seeking, the regulatory and government economy. Whatever business 215 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: you are in, whatever you're dealing with. If you're running 216 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: an autobody shop, if you're you know, if you're a 217 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: general contractor if you're you know, whatever it is, there 218 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: are all of these unnecessary and onerous costs put on 219 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: you because unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats, particularly at the federal but 220 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: often at the state level as well, decide that it's fair, 221 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: or it's sustainable, or it's equity. 222 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: You start to. 223 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: Pull all those shackles off the American people in the 224 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: American government just by approaching it with a common sense 225 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: attitude of isn't even the thing, We don't have to 226 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: worry about this, Why are you doing this? 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Inspirational stories that you 267 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: unite us all each day. 268 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 4: Spend time with Clay and find them on the free 269 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 4: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 270 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: Welcome back in. 271 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 5: Clay Travis butt Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging 272 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 5: out with us as we are rolling through the Thursday edition, 273 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 5: Halloween edition of the program. 274 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: Buck. 275 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 5: Do you get a lot of trick or treaders at 276 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 5: your place in Miami or buy and large? 277 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: Is it like not a trick or treat universe? Uh? 278 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 5: No, we did this so like you and carry will 279 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 5: not have any candy ready for anybody knocking on your 280 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 5: door at all. Nope, so I will be I'm not 281 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 5: even kidding about this in the probably ninety ninth percentile 282 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 5: of people who have their door knocked on for Halloween. 283 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: Now, I will be running around with my ten year old. 284 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 5: But the amount of candy that we will give out, 285 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 5: and also Laura has bought my wife. I think I've 286 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 5: talked about this on the show before. We have a 287 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 5: while back, Fireball sent me a fireball shot machine, So 288 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 5: I have in my house a fireball shot machine. We 289 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 5: set it up every Halloween. I think my wife has 290 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 5: forty bottles of fireball. And for the adults, for the 291 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 5: adults who are coming around on Halloween when their kids 292 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 5: get candy, we offer them shots of fireball whiskey. And 293 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 5: we will go through for adults walking around their kids 294 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 5: about forty bottles of fireball tonight. So if you're in 295 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 5: the Franklin, Tennessee area, you may well come by in 296 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 5: our neighborhood. Not only do kids get a lot of candy, 297 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 5: but there are certain houses where adults can get alcohol. 298 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 5: It's a big party. I cannot wait. So I bet 299 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 5: there will be a bunch of in my neighborhood. In 300 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 5: particular Buck Trump in garbage man gear and Trump in 301 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 5: uh Trump in the McDonald's gear. I'm expecting very much 302 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 5: more acclimated to the I mean, I know you do 303 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 5: the adult Halloween thing too, but you have kids, so 304 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 5: they're you know what I'm saying, like, you're in the zone. 305 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 5: I mean as much as I if we tried to 306 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 5: dress Ginger up like a little pirate, she would yep 307 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 5: it off and chew it up, you know what I mean. 308 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 5: She's not into that. So I'm not in that zone yet. Well, 309 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 5: one of the fun times when you get young kids 310 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 5: is when you can start dressing them up for Halloween 311 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 5: for the first time. Now about two or three, they 312 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 5: can start to pick what they would like to be. 313 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 5: But those first couple of years, did you see Biden 314 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 5: biting the kid who was dressed up like a turkey 315 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 5: at the White House Halloween party? 316 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: You saw this, right, Yeah, I mean this is crazy. Now. 317 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 5: I think he's trying to be funny, but he's so 318 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 5: weird that I saw this video and I was like, 319 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 5: what in the world is our president doing that. 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I've done some deep diving 346 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: into the official Kamala economic policy side of things, and uh, 347 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: it is just a lot of jargon. There is no 348 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: there there. I'm not the only one who has figured 349 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: this out either over at CNBC. Uh, you have Phil Kernan. 350 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: I think it's Phil Kernan, right, Phil Murphy, Joe Kernel, 351 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: thank you, yeah, Joe Kernan, Phil Murphy. 352 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: There we go. You got Kernin and Murphy. 353 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: And I thought this Simpson, because it's not just okay, 354 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: he's a Democrat governor of a big state, New Jersey, 355 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: which he is. Murphy horrible on COVID by the way, 356 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: just throwing that out there. I remember because I was 357 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: living in New York at the time and in New Jersey. 358 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: I was seeing the press conferences too, and I was like, 359 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: you got to be kidding me, you know, the just 360 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: horrible stuff, idiot stuff. But anyway, Murphy was a he's 361 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: a Wall Street guy, he's a rich guy, and so 362 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: he should understand how an economy works. I want you 363 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: to hear when Kernan is asking him straight up, just 364 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: explain to me the thing you like that, Kamala says, not, 365 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: that's like a concept, right, Like Clay, I'm going to 366 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: make everyone rich is a concept. I'm going to make 367 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: everyone rich. You can say that that sounds good, but 368 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: it leaves open how what are you going to do? 369 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: Right? I mean, Clay. 370 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: If you were a coaching a football team and you 371 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: went in before the game, you said, guys, we're going 372 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: to win this game, and that was all you said. 373 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: People might have some questions like, hey, coach, how are 374 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: we going to win this game? And that is at 375 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: its essence what is missing with kamala Ism, if you will, 376 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: there is no explanation. 377 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: There's only these airy phrases. 378 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: There's only you know it's And this is what happens 379 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: when when somebody who works in the world of financial 380 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: journalism asks somebody who understands finance, Hey, what do you 381 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: like about kamala Play the clip. 382 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: Please, Governor if we went on a checklist, you like 383 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 3: all the things that that you like Kamala Harrison not 384 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: just against that. 385 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: So what are Let me ask. 386 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 3: You, do you believe we should abolished a filibuster and 387 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: you can answer after I do it. How about getting 388 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: rid of private insurance? How about taxing unrealized gains? How 389 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: about nationalizing energy? How about mandatory gun buybacks like Australia. 390 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: How about decriminalizing illegal. 391 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 3: Crossings, ending cash bail, h child gender reassignment surgery being 392 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: paid for in prison? I mean, what are your raising 393 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 3: the corporate tax rate. What are your favorite proposals from 394 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris that make you like her so much? 395 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 2: Which is those for a Jersey guy? 396 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: For a Jersey guy, you sound like you're on the 397 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 4: Trump campaign for credit out loud? 398 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: Okay, well, which of which of those do you like? 399 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 2: Which of those do you like? 400 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: I to tell you, He had no answer. We continue 401 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: that club, which maybe should play a little bit more 402 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: of it. There's first of all, he goes out domin mklay, 403 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: which is always a big tip off. Right, Oh, I 404 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: always trying to be kind of funny. He's like, you're 405 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: a Jersey guy, you should know better. 406 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 2: No, this is the real, honest. What is the thing 407 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: that Kamala Harris has said she will do, not a feeling, 408 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 2: she will evoke. The thing she will do that will 409 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 2: accomplish anything? You know? What is the lever that will 410 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: be pulled that will result in the following action? I 411 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: don't know, does anybody know? 412 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they talk about things in these broad and 413 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: sweeping terms, and I think it's very obvious because Kamala 414 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: has no substance. 415 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 2: She doesn't know what she's talking about. 416 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: She doesn't know how anything in the economy actually economy 417 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: actually functions, and this is what happens. 418 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: She's a mess. 419 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 5: And I do think that if you are in the 420 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 5: finance world that those questions are great. What is she 421 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 5: going to do that you specifically agree with? And I 422 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 5: don't even think it just has to be limited to 423 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 5: the finance world. 424 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 2: Buck. 425 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 5: I think anyone out there, if you are asking them, 426 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 5: what do you think Kamala Harris has done well so 427 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 5: far such that she deserves a promotion and will do 428 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 5: well in the office of the presidency. I've never heard 429 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 5: anybody answer that. I mean, it's one thing to not 430 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 5: agree with Trump, but almost everybody is voting on the 431 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 5: Democrat side against Trump. They aren't supporting Kamala and that's 432 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 5: important because she's in office right now, at least in 433 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 5: twenty twenty. Joe Biden could spin the web of I'm 434 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 5: going to restore normalcy to the country. I'm Scranton, Joe, 435 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 5: I'll solve all the issues that have arisen, in particular COVID. 436 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: That's an argument. 437 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 5: Now, it wasn't realized, but he wasn't in office and 438 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 5: he was saying I'll do a better job. What argument 439 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 5: has Kamala actually made, suggesting she deserves a promotion. If 440 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 5: Kamala Harris's record existed in your place of employment, would 441 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 5: she deserve a job promotion taken away from the President 442 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 5: of the United States? If she was the number two 443 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 5: person in sales at your car dealership and the guy 444 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 5: who ran the car dealership had gotten too old and 445 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 5: he was retiring, and sales had collapsed and the overall 446 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 5: success rate of the company was down, would people inside 447 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 5: of the car dealership be like, hey, you know what 448 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 5: we need to do. Stick with the leadership that we 449 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 5: have right now. She would never get a promotion. Someone 450 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 5: trying to run a rational business that was failing, as 451 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 5: Kamala has failed as VP would never elevate her to 452 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 5: CEO or commanding position. And again, buck that what Joe 453 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 5: Kernin did there really just illustrates the only reason people 454 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 5: are voting for Kamala is because, to a large extent, 455 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 5: people's brains have been broken by negative Trump stories and 456 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 5: they have bought into derangement syndrome. And the reason why 457 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 5: I'm cautiously optimistic five days out that Trump is going 458 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 5: to win is there are a lot of you out 459 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 5: there listening to us right now who might have bought 460 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 5: that argument in twenty sixteen. Who might even have bought 461 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 5: that argument in twenty twenty, But your eyes have been 462 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 5: opened and you have come to see how illegitimate that 463 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 5: argument is. And I thought the clip we played a 464 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 5: CBS was a perfect distillation of this. And in fact, 465 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 5: in the third hour, maybe we'll dive into this. Did 466 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 5: you see Brian Stelter saying if Trump wins, basically the 467 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 5: mainstream media is dead. I'm paraphrasing the tweet he sent. 468 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 5: It important we should hit that. I did see that. 469 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: I was thinking about that for today's show as well, 470 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: because it is true. How do all these mainstream I 471 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: don't like that term, we still use it sometimes by habit, 472 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: these legacy Democrat outlets, Clay, how do they tell everybody 473 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: that it's the end of democracy and Trump is hitler 474 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: and then he wins and then everything's actually going along 475 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: just fine. How would you listen to anybody who does that? 476 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: Ever? Get the entire Democrat media has gone along with that. 477 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 5: Yes, and again we'll read that exact tweet. But I 478 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 5: do think that he's right on that in some level. 479 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 5: And that's why I want to win the popular vote. 480 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 5: That's why I want all of you out there. I 481 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 5: don't just want Donald Trump to win the electoral College 482 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 5: by the skin of his teeth. I mean I would 483 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 5: sign up for that right now, because I think it's 484 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 5: important enough that he win. But in my ideal world, 485 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 5: New Hampshire is too close to call. New Mexico, where 486 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 5: Trump is visiting, is too close to call. Virginia is 487 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 5: too close to call, Minnesota is too close to call. 488 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 5: We're expanding the battlefield to such an extent that Trump 489 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 5: has a real chance to win not only a huge 490 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 5: electoral college victory, but to win the actual popular vote. 491 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 5: Because then all of these individuals out there are forced 492 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 5: to reconcile with the lies that they have told. Not 493 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 5: only that, but how I would all argue, not only 494 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 5: are they being increasingly put to the sideline, Buck, I 495 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 5: would even argue that most of what you're seeing now 496 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 5: of the propaganda media is actually aiding Trump because there 497 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 5: are enough people paying attention now who are willing to 498 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 5: change their vote. And when they see Nora O'Donnell open 499 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,239 Speaker 5: CBS News in the method in which she did, I mean, 500 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 5: this is supposed to be a non biased, impartial newscast. Buck, 501 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 5: That's why CBS has a broadcast license and they clearly 502 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 5: are not doing that. They're just reading propaganda. It might 503 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 5: as well have been MSNBC that was employing Nora O'Donnell 504 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 5: as she ran through there. 505 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: Well, that's the fun. We come back, continue to break down. 506 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: It's Halloween. 507 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 5: I know a lot of you out there excited about 508 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 5: Halloween and buck Yesterday I went to a charity auction 509 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 5: and I had to give information out to be able 510 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 5: to buy some of the things that I bought at 511 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 5: that charity auction, and I was nervous about the fact 512 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 5: that my information was going to be online because LifeLock. 513 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 5: Every month there's a brand new element out there where 514 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 5: LifeLock finds a huge data leak. And you probably have 515 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 5: just gotten used to this yourself. 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Third Hour We're going to dive into 536 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 4: some of these predictions that are out there about what 537 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 4: the numbers are going to look like again continuing to 538 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 4: look really, really good, but the data will dive into 539 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 4: some of the data, and I'll give you a deep 540 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 4: dive of where we think we're headed. 541 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: Buck. 542 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 5: I posted a poll and I'm curious. This is a 543 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 5: fun one. It's Halloween. I know we're in the middle 544 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 5: of serious times, but I was curious what your answer 545 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 5: to this would be, so, I am a fan of 546 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 5: nineteen eighties horror movies back in the day. Back in 547 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 5: the day, you could watch Nightmare on Elm Street, you 548 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 5: could watch Jason, you could watch Halloween, you could watch Chucky. 549 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 5: These are nineteen eighties in particular. Yes, which was the 550 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 5: best nineteen eighties villain from the horror movie genre? If 551 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 5: I gave you Freddy Krueger, Michael Myers, Jason and Chucky 552 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 5: as the four options, which is a poll that I 553 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 5: put up, which would you say was the best? 554 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: I have only seen those movies. I think there were 555 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: like eight of them for each one of those genres made. 556 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm not an expert at all on this, Unlike action movies, 557 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: where I'm a world class expert. I am like a PhD. 558 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: In eighties action films. Yes, I can do entire scripts 559 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: from those movies. If it has Van Damdolph Lunkern, Schwarzenegger, 560 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: et c. I can do the whole thing. In my head, 561 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: I would say of the horror genre, Michael Myers from 562 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: Halloween I think is the most iconic, followed by Jason. 563 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: I was never a Freddy Krueger guy personally. I didn't 564 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: really get that one. 565 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 5: I would have gone Freddy Krueger number one. Overall, the 566 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 5: voters have gone with you and Michael Myers. Michael Myers 567 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 5: is getting forty three percent of the vote as the 568 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 5: best nineteen eighties horror movie villain out there. 569 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: What is the scariest movie you've ever seen? Oh, that's 570 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: a great question. It is a great question. I would team. 571 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: You can also weigh in New York while Clay's figuring 572 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: it out, so you can whisper it in my ear 573 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: via the mic here or via the headphones. 574 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: What do you think the best one is? What do 575 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: you got for me? Clay? I would probably go with the. 576 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 5: Oh, man, I watched all of it, and I'm gonna 577 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 5: forget what they're called now, the uh the ones about 578 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 5: the Catholic priests who will investigate No, not the Exorcist 579 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 5: standing alone, that's really good, but there these are more 580 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 5: recent and they go out and they basically investigate all 581 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,719 Speaker 5: of these paranormal activities. It's a husband and a wife, 582 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 5: so I guess he's not a Catholic priest, but he 583 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 5: is a is a religious figure. 584 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: Not a very good one. 585 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, but maybe there's an exception if you're doing 586 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 5: the uh doing those investations, and the title of these 587 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 5: movies is right off the edge of my tongue, and 588 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 5: I'm sure I'm getting blown up right now. But Annabelle 589 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 5: is the doll that is in them. And there's an 590 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 5: entire idea. 591 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: Does anyone know if I have no idea what Clay's 592 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: talking about with this series? 593 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: What is the series he's talking about? The conjuring? The conjuring. 594 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 5: The conjuring movies I think are the scariest because Buck 595 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 5: to me, like I understand the concept of hey, you're 596 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 5: like a crazy clown and you're walking like it was 597 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 5: a scary movie recently came out. Sure, that's spooky to me, 598 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 5: but the way scarier parts are where you have like 599 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 5: the devil possession, like someone engaging in some sort of 600 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 5: behavior like that really gets me. 601 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: I mean. 602 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: Our our friend Sean Ryan on his podcast long Form 603 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: was doing great, so many people listening. 604 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: Uh. He had on a guy who Catholic priest who 605 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: does exorcisms. Recently I saw that and. 606 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: Talked about his everyday Carrie, which included a piece of 607 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: the True Cross. 608 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,479 Speaker 2: Very interesting stuff. 609 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: I would say The Exorcist is still the scariest movie 610 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: that I've ever seen, although there's a director who's pretty 611 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: in vogue these days who did that, who did The Northman. 612 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: He also did a movie, The Witch. That was the 613 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: last horror movie that I have seen. I think it 614 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: was twenty eighteen maybe, and I'm like, I decided I'm done. 615 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: I actually, I actually won't sit through a horror movie 616 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: now I won't. You know, I'm out. 617 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 2: I'm out. 618 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 5: My wife won't do horror movies. I love like the 619 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 5: scream movies. Those are really fun. I've watched them with 620 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 5: my boys. Those are really those are really more like 621 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 5: murder mystery movies. Those scream movies. They're not really horror. 622 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 5: It's not like monsters or you know, possessed people. It's 623 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 5: just like lunatics. Yeah, a lunatic killer. By the way, 624 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 5: the two guys to people, ed Edward Warren and his 625 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 5: wife Lorraine Morgan, are the characters that are played and 626 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 5: in the Conjuring movies, and it's basically demonic possession, the 627 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 5: stories of them trying to go out and solve all 628 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 5: of these paranormal activity, demonic possessions. And so they started 629 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,479 Speaker 5: in twenty thirteen. I was on a plane flight buck 630 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 5: I think it was like cross country or may have 631 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 5: been I was going to England or something. And it's 632 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 5: rare that I have just tons of time, and I 633 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 5: watched three straight conjuring movies on an airplane, which I 634 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 5: would think is probably one of the least threatening places 635 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 5: you could be because everybody's been screened. You know, like 636 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 5: there's no like the real danger by and large on 637 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 5: an airplane, as the plane could go down, but not 638 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 5: that crazy things are gonna happen on the airplane. 639 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: I did used to watch in the eighties. I think 640 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: they're they're horror, but in the horror thriller genre. Do 641 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: you remember a movie called Critters. Oh, there were guys 642 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: from space and they have like laser guns and the 643 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: little monsters that eat people like they used to make 644 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: these used to make these crazy movies. Read the little 645 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: spines they would shoot at people. 646 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 2: I can't believe. 647 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: We used to watch this craft. It was on like 648 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: Channel eleven in New York City, and I would watch 649 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: these bizarre movies like that. And uh, I saw on 650 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: HBO The Hills Have Eyes. I do not recommend that. 651 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: That was traumatizing. I would never I would never watch 652 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: that again. 653 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 5: You know what used to get me back when I 654 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 5: was a kid buck Unsolved Mysteries, When the Unsolved Mysteries 655 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 5: music came on, if you were a kid at home 656 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 5: by yourself, that was I think the creepiest show that 657 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 5: you could watch on like NBC or whatever. It was 658 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 5: regular television by far the scariest one out there, beyond 659 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 5: a shadow of a doubt. But I bet a lot 660 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 5: I can. My mentions have exploded A lot of you 661 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 5: are agreeing with me on the conjuring series of. 662 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: Movie Where are you on vampires and Dracula stuff? I 663 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: still up pull that four timelessness and entertainment value. Bram 664 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: Stoker's Dracula is actually one of I think it's one 665 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: of the greatest novels of all time, which I know 666 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 1: people flip out about, but I'm like, no, it's it's amazing. 667 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: It's incredibly well written in it created the whole vampire genre. 668 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, and Francis Ford Coppola's version of Dracula is actually 669 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 5: incredibly well done. 670 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: That was Keanu Reeves, right, isn't it in that? Gary? 671 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 4: No? 672 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: That was uh, you're talking about the one with the 673 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: British guy, Gary Oldman. 674 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 675 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 5: Gary, Like the nineties, I thought Keanu Reeves was the 676 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 5: young guy who was like coming up to that, like play, Yeah, 677 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 5: that's that one is really well done. 678 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 2: I like. 679 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 5: But I like my vampires, as my friend Mike Lee 680 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 5: rest in Peace used to say, not the MOPI vampires, 681 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 5: like the evil actually scary vampires, not like the romantic team, 682 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 5: you know, vampires which have taken over. 683 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: This is also where I gotta say I got thrown 684 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: a word from a man. Wesley Snipes and Blade, which 685 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: I always talk about because underrated Fana