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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How you doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too, our number two here, first show of the

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Speaker 2: New Year, New Year, same us as we rock and

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Speaker 2: we roll and we get ready for this massive Week

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Speaker 2: eighteen clash on Sunday night football with the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Before we jump back into the Matt's stats packet here, Matt,

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Speaker 2: will you oblige me for sixty seconds of radio fodder?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 2: Are you a pork and krowd guy on New Year's

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Speaker 2: sort of?

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Speaker 3: My wife and her family are very, very German like

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Speaker 3: one pure blood blonde blue eyes.

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Speaker 2: I've heard the story of her maiden name. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: could pick up what you're putting down. And with that

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Speaker 2: with my last name, Yuler, I'm in the I'm in

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Speaker 2: the same ballpark.

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Speaker 3: So that's been a tradition for them for years now.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any smell on the planet. My

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Speaker 3: daughter hates more than the than crowd and pork, just

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Speaker 3: like drifting through the house and getting in your nose.

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Speaker 3: She hates every bit of it. So I think my wife,

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Speaker 3: Nikki has probably eased up on her a little bit

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Speaker 3: over the years, and I don't love it. I mean

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Speaker 3: what I do when when we uh, you know, go

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Speaker 3: to the crock pot, I'll pull out the kobasi, but

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Speaker 3: I don't want a ton of the crowd on it.

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Speaker 3: I like shred or too, but I don't need like

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Speaker 3: the all that crowd on there. I mean, nice, fun

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Speaker 3: kobasi mustard. You know, I'm cool with that.

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Speaker 2: But even like the York very similar, you and I

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Speaker 2: are very similar, my friend, because I'm I'm I like

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Speaker 2: pulled pork, like off a smoker barbecue sauce.

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Speaker 3: That's more myself.

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Speaker 2: That's how I like pour and bacon obviously, you know,

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Speaker 2: and raising crowded up. I don't need to crowd it up.

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Speaker 2: I do like the kill boss, though with a little

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Speaker 2: bit of crowd some good mustards, yes, yes, but on

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Speaker 2: that smell thing. This is the first time this has

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Speaker 2: ever happened to me. Like, I've never been some massive

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Speaker 2: pork and kraut guy, but I also haven't been like, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's disgusting. Got a bunch of snow last night? Everyone

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Speaker 2: sure you did? To everybody here in the Pittsburgh area.

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Speaker 2: We got crushed with snow last night. It was awesome.

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Speaker 2: I said to my wife. I was like, it kind

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Speaker 2: of feels like Christmas Eve, like getting all the snow

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Speaker 2: on New Year's Eve. So this morning, of course, the

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Speaker 2: girls wanted to go sled riding. Nice, so they woke

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Speaker 2: up early. We let him stay up last night. Parents,

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Speaker 2: look at me in the camera right now with young children,

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Speaker 2: don't let your kids stay up on New Year's all right,

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Speaker 2: because he pays, They're still gonna then never pays off.

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Speaker 2: They're still gonna wake up at the same time.

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Speaker 3: And every new parent will be like TV take note,

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Speaker 3: you know, Oh, we'll let them stay up because they'll

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Speaker 3: sleep till noon tomorrow. They're doing their teenagers, but not

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Speaker 2: Not at that age, And so they were both still

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Speaker 3: And then they'll be grumpy today at like four pm.

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Speaker 2: Right, I was not. I felt bad for my wife,

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Speaker 2: but I was not terribly sad to be leaving the

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, in a little bit, in a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So finally like nine am and d Daddy was up

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Speaker 2: and all that stuff. Game on, Yeah, exactly right. That

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Speaker 2: I come back in the house and her name's Claire,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm like, oh, Declaire, have a blowout?

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Speaker 2: What happened? What does that smell? Is there one of

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Speaker 3: You don't notice it if you're there, and it's going

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Speaker 2: My wife's My wife's like, sweetheart, that's the pork and

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Speaker 3: Smelled like that. Yeah, it's harsh, man.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. Maybe maybe my senses and my

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Speaker 2: taste buds are changing here, you know, as they tend

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it'll hit you like.

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Speaker 2: But when I walked to the house, I was like, sweetheart, like,

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Speaker 2: What is going on here?

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Speaker 3: So my daughter was always much better about chores than

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Speaker 3: if she ever really slacks on of it and pisses

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Speaker 3: me off, I'm putting the crock pot like next door.

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Speaker 2: Bed, putting it in the hallway right now, right in.

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Speaker 3: The hallway, right a right, like the litter box too.

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Speaker 3: You right?

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Speaker 2: Oh lord, So I just I had to get your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on all that.

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Speaker 3: That's funny, we're the same. I could go for a

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Speaker 3: nice chunk of cabasi out of there. Oh yeah, some

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Speaker 3: good mustard.

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Speaker 2: You're speaking my language, their partner, Matt. Let's jump back

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Speaker 2: into your stats pack here as we get rolling an

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Speaker 2: outwork number two. I don't know. You want some good news,

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Speaker 2: you want some bad news? How you feel a lot

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Speaker 2: of both, There's a lot of both. Let's start with

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Speaker 2: something good because this is a piggyback off of what

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Speaker 2: we talked about last week. We gave some very impressive

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Speaker 2: numbers on Joey Porter Junior and how long he's been

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Speaker 2: in coverage without giving up a touchdown on all these

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Speaker 2: things that number. Now, Joey Porter Junior has played one thousand,

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Speaker 2: four hundred and forty four consecutive snaps without allowing a touchdown,

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Speaker 2: longest active streaks amongst quarterbacks, and more than twice as

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Speaker 2: long as the next closest streak, which is just insane. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's the fifth that might be more impressive, the fifth.

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Speaker 3: It's phenomenal again, like great football as you don't cite

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Speaker 3: he just blew the coverage right next j Yes, and

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Speaker 2: But that's like the JJ Watt went on that tangent,

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Speaker 2: which I think is good about how he's like, I

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Speaker 2: would love to be one of these graders for Pro

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Speaker 2: Football Focus. But first, but before I give out grades

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Speaker 3: Exactly again, So a lot of this stuff with those

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Speaker 3: pretty good, that's still pretty good. I was asked today,

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Speaker 3: I think he's writ in that conversation and big picture,

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Speaker 3: might shock some listeners of what Porter's contract's going to

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Speaker 3: look like. It's gonna be really pricey, and those corners

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Speaker 3: to have. I mean, you took him with the thirty

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Speaker 3: NFL dot Com. Of course, many people now tell me

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Speaker 3: the penalty numbers everywhere, it's all the time, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's not. I mean, top corners get penalized. I mean

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Speaker 3: you're playing man coverage against the best receivers in the league.

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Speaker 3: and it's been a huge problem for him in his career.

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Speaker 3: He's the most penalized defensive player in the league. Last

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Speaker 2: I've it's the classic Dale Lawley. Guys are allowed to

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Speaker 2: get better. Yeah. I think I used this example when

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Speaker 2: we had a similar conversation last week. It's like the

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Speaker 2: guy who comes into Major League Baseball and can't hit

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Speaker 2: first two years of his career that becomes the narrative.

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Speaker 2: But then by year three and four, he's starting to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, exactly right, and he probably sees a lot

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Speaker 3: throw Serrano curveballs anymore. Jiboo.

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Speaker 2: I think Joey Porter Junior should have been a pro bowler.

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Speaker 2: But I also this is something Motes and I used

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Speaker 2: to do all the time. Okay, then tell me who for.

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Speaker 3: Right, certain and I was gonna say, a.

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Speaker 2: Pretty good class, Stingly, Certain, Christian Gonzales, and Denzel Ward.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking Sauce made it, and I would not

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Speaker 2: I think one you could fight, go say, I think

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Speaker 2: you could fight about Denzel Ward, but the other three

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Speaker 2: had outstanding years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Ward takes not aging super well when

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Speaker 3: they threw him three times in a row and he

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Speaker 3: you know, was a blanket. By the way, that was

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Speaker 3: nothing close to pass interference. So that was That's what

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Speaker 3: great coverage looks like, when one player is way better

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Speaker 3: than the other. Awards a lot better than Nbas.

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Speaker 2: Yes he's a pro bowler in his own right.

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Speaker 3: Yes he is great.

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Speaker 2: Care Matt okay, other side of the equation.

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Speaker 3: He order them again, they were Gonzales, Certain, Stingy, and Ward. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I say, just thinking where they go in the draft.

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Speaker 3: No, and if we were really going to take this

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Speaker 3: I mean, Henry, this is hard and they're so oppose it.

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Speaker 2: To use another baseball and a Queen's best strength.

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Speaker 2: Right, you want some good news, Matt Pittsburgh in this century,

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Speaker 2: the twenty first century, since the year twenty twenty five

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Speaker 3: Yes, Now, a lot of people I put that out there,

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Speaker 2: You and I talked about this, and it doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: But Kansas City is playing more meaningless air quotes games

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Speaker 3: Most teams in the league are currently yeah yeah, right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: But it kind of reminds me of like Monday night

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Speaker 2: That's a big sample size, it's pretty good. Here's another

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Speaker 3: That's what we wanted in camp of their own like

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Speaker 2: Yesh and so that's gonna be obviously, but that's going

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Speaker 3: first or second in terms of blitz percentage that defenses

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Speaker 3: throw at them. You wouldn't think anybody blitz his Lamar,

437
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Speaker 3: but that's the Steelers blitz him more than anybody, And

438
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Speaker 3: they kind of started that blueprint.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the time highest right in the league. The Ravens

440
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Speaker 2: offense is blitzed.

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Speaker 3: Is blitzed now a couple of notes here is you

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Speaker 3: would think, and that's that was the original thought when

443
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Speaker 3: he came to the league. I can't blitz that guy

444
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Speaker 3: because most teams play.

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Speaker 2: Many miss and hides.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, I'm turning my back to Lamar Jackson and playing

447
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Speaker 3: man coverage and sending five or six people at him.

448
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Speaker 3: He makes one miss, he's in take of the house.

449
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Speaker 3: Hasn't really worked that way, and and more teams now

450
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Speaker 3: zone blitz and or have a spy or whatever. But

451
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Speaker 3: the Steelers also blitz him to just kind of constrict

452
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Speaker 3: the pocket too, and he's gotten better from the pocket.

453
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Speaker 3: But that's still asking a lot. And as great as

454
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Speaker 3: he is, he's not the He's not the micro process.

455
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Speaker 3: Sure that Rogers is, which is why the Steelers aren't

456
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Speaker 3: getting blitzed because the lowest rate, and it doesn't Hey,

457
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Speaker 3: you don't get home. Why send six guys if none

458
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Speaker 3: of them are gonna get home with the ball's coming out

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Speaker 3: in two point four Anyway.

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Speaker 2: The only team that has blitzed less in the NFL

461
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Speaker 2: at a lower rate it's San Francisco. Okay, Yeah, And

462
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Speaker 2: that's because they'll go.

463
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they have all every answer for every blitz too.

464
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Speaker 2: Whereas for the Steelers, it's the it's the processing of

465
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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers from them from the neck up. Let's get

466
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Speaker 2: to a break here. UH might get some more of

467
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Speaker 2: these matts stats today. I might save some for tomorrow.

468
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Speaker 2: But we have got plenty more to get to as

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Speaker 2: we roll along. We're going to pick a player to

470
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Speaker 2: steal from the Baltimore Ravens when we returned. I'm actually

471
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Speaker 2: very interested to see how this plays out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't remember who we did last time.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we did Baltimore last Okay, I

474
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Speaker 2: think we might have forgotten that week or short week

475
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Speaker 2: something weird. It wouldn't have been a holiday week.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they don't have one that jumps off

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Speaker 3: the page.

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Speaker 2: Was that game Thanksgiving weekend? So we would have missed

479
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Speaker 2: a couple of shows that week. I don't know. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk about it on the other side regardless when we

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Speaker 2: return here. On the drive was Sheeler Matt Williamson. It's

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, Your tuns.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

484
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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

485
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Speaker 2: Down the home stretch here on this new year special

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Speaker 2: edition of the Drive on the Steelers Nation Radio on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt, it's time for a I

488
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Speaker 2: enjoy this conversation every week. Yeah, kind of put our

489
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Speaker 2: feet up and just play armchair GM for a few minutes.

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Speaker 3: Fun to think through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think you know, the majority of our

492
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Speaker 2: listeners here are like regulars and they've probably heard us

493
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Speaker 2: get to this exercise before. But it is a new year.

494
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Speaker 2: Maybe we're picking up some new listeners along the way.

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Speaker 2: It's quite simple. We take a look at the Steelers

496
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Speaker 2: upcoming opponent, we go through their roster, and we say,

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Speaker 2: who is the one player that we would like to

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Speaker 2: steal from that roster to add the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yes,

499
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Speaker 2: a couple of caveats. No quarterbacks. You take Lamar too easy,

500
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Speaker 2: it's cheating. You take Justin Herbert, you'd take Drake May,

501
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Speaker 2: you'd take Joe Burrow, I mean Jordan Love, Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of like Cleveland might be one

503
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Speaker 2: of the few teams where we wouldn't take the quarterback.

504
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Speaker 2: Indy might have been one of the few teams where

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Speaker 2: we wouldn't have taken the quarterback, but it would be

506
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Speaker 2: eighty percent of the time probably we'd be taking the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That's rule number one. Rule number two is you are

508
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Speaker 2: getting this person for their contract, oh, what they caused,

509
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Speaker 2: what they cost with their ages. Now all that is.

510
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Speaker 3: For the rest of their career. You're just inheriting, or

511
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Speaker 3: at least for the rest of their contract to their contract,

512
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Speaker 3: you're inheriting their current situation.

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Speaker 2: So there are obviously some very viable candidates on Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: You could convince me that, hey, it's Derrick Henry, because

515
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Speaker 2: just who cares? How much longer you have them?

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Speaker 3: Two years?

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Speaker 2: Two years? That would be pretty nice. We could talk

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Speaker 2: about some of the bigger names on defense, like rokwand Smith,

519
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Speaker 2: Orkyle Hamilton. Are they necessarily at positions of need verse

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Speaker 2: just how good those guys are. There's a lot to

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Speaker 2: consider here. I would like to know where you're leaning

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Speaker 2: and what you're thinking.

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Speaker 3: All right, let me here's my thought process. Henry would

524
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Speaker 3: be sure fun. And if you thought that's the difference

525
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Speaker 3: between the Super Bowl this year or next year or

526
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Speaker 3: not totally, I would get that. But I don't think

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Speaker 3: that's enough for me to say, all of a sudden,

528
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Speaker 3: you're a super Bowl favorite, So I'm gonna say no

529
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Speaker 3: because of age and running backs are almost rarely gonna

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Speaker 3: be my choice. Linderbaum's a really good center, but I'm

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Speaker 3: not moving him to guard or Fraser to guard.

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Speaker 2: And he's about to get a massive page.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's actually a fun off season conversation. Is

534
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Speaker 3: they're gonna a hard time keeping him. He's gonna be really.

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Speaker 2: I need him to go sign with an NFC team

536
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Speaker 2: so Zach Fraser can start making Pro Bowls.

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Speaker 3: There you go, and I actually prefer Fraser if I

538
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Speaker 3: had to pick between the two on.

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Speaker 2: Game day, I would rather have a fan like to

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Speaker 2: hear that.

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Speaker 3: Stanley's a left tackle and that's always going to carry

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Speaker 3: a lot of weight. But he ain't what he used

543
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Speaker 3: to be, and he's not he's making some money as well.

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Speaker 3: He's gotten catic goal situation. So no, they have two

545
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Speaker 3: tight ends that.

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Speaker 2: Are useful but unlikely. Likely is not long in the tan, Andrews.

547
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Speaker 3: Is long in the tooth and his digressed and I'm

548
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Speaker 3: not sure why they gave him an extension. Likely's best

549
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Speaker 3: days might be ahead of them, but I'm fine there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, are they that much better than what

551
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Speaker 3: you got? And maybe not, but they'd be in the mix. Sure,

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Speaker 3: Zay Flowers is very interesting.

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Speaker 2: He might be my answer.

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Speaker 3: He might be my answer. He's so different than Metcalf.

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Speaker 2: He'd be a very nice number two next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a pro bowler this year, I thought that

557
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Speaker 3: was a bit of a reach. But I didn't know this.

558
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Speaker 3: So I saw Rob yesterday. Rob mentioned that he's been

559
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Speaker 3: their leading receiver in every game but two this year,

560
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Speaker 3: and they lost both those. He's smaller though, I mean,

561
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Speaker 3: he's not the prototype, but he's really good with the

562
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Speaker 3: ball in his hands. He would really solve your number

563
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Speaker 3: two receivers situation, and as a put in instead of

564
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Speaker 3: like solving it, you know. And I should have had

565
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Speaker 3: this conversation million times, but I guess in week one,

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Speaker 3: you know, Tom took over as the pre pregame show guy. Yes,

567
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Speaker 3: and I guess in week one, I said something along

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Speaker 3: the lines of we didn't even seen the Steelers play yet,

569
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Speaker 3: you know, it's going into the Jets, and we were

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Speaker 3: talking about different position groups, and I said something like,

571
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Speaker 3: I don't want to just survive at this position group.

572
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Speaker 3: I want to thrive so he liked that. So it

573
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Speaker 3: comes up a lot in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Like he's like the Jack Nicholas departed and kind of

575
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Speaker 2: repurposed it a little bit.

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Speaker 3: There, you know, but like instead of surviving at wide receiver,

577
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Speaker 3: you'd thrive. You know, you'd have Metcalf and flowers and

578
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Speaker 3: then everybody would fall into place as your threes, and

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Speaker 3: you know, this week could be a lot better, you know,

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Speaker 3: with Metcalf, sideline a few flowers. So he might be

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Speaker 3: the answer. The answer would have been matebuque.

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Speaker 2: I think so if he's healthy, but his career is

583
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Speaker 2: in jeopardy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's no way you can say that in

585
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Speaker 3: no way. I really like their nose tackle Jones because

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Speaker 3: the fun thing about sexualized too is it also previews

587
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Speaker 3: the game like Jones is right. They just extended Joe.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, he's at that point where

589
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Speaker 2: his rookie contracts up, but he's not demanding a massive

590
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Speaker 2: amount of money.

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Speaker 3: No, he just got a new deal play. He's a

592
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Speaker 3: really good player. He's much more of a nose and

593
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Speaker 3: he's young. I loved them coming out of Yukon. He

594
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Speaker 3: would be exactly what I'm looking for if I were

595
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Speaker 3: to like go in free agency and add one more

596
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Speaker 3: d lineman at a reasonable cost. I mean, we're not

597
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Speaker 3: getting Aaron Donald, you know, sure, And then Benton moves

598
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Speaker 3: over to end and a lot of things fall into

599
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Speaker 3: place nicely with Jones. But he's also not special, you know,

600
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Speaker 3: like that you pick the nose tackle that's going to

601
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Speaker 3: be out there for you know.

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Speaker 2: Forty probably never going to be an all pro.

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Speaker 3: Right, Wiggins hasn't played greatly.

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Speaker 2: That going to be My next question was they've got

605
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Speaker 2: like a trio of corners. Yeah. Interesting.

606
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Speaker 3: Wiggins I think has a really bright future, but he

607
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Speaker 3: struggled the last couple of weeks a lot. And as

608
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Speaker 3: Chris mentioned, now that they're playing more zone, he's more

609
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Speaker 3: of a man guy. But I wanted to be a

610
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Speaker 3: man guy, you know, I'm him and Porter on the

611
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 3: outside forever with their length and you know, all that

612
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 3: stuff would be really appealing. And he's on a rookie deal.

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Speaker 3: I like that. Humphrey is starting to get a little

614
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Speaker 3: too old for me to be in that market. But

615
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: he's a really good career I think.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, he's like the if this exercise was you're

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Speaker 2: getting one of these guys for the rest of the Year.

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Speaker 2: The answer is Derrick Henry. Yeah, but Humphrey might be

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Speaker 2: number two if that's the way of framing the conversation.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, he's like the better echos where he's slot,

621
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Speaker 3: he's outside. Yeah, all those things speaks universatility. Most people

622
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Speaker 3: would take Hamilton just in terms of he's.

623
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Speaker 2: A little same shoe as Deshaun Elliott. But that's okay.

624
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it's okay.

625
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: You'd make it work, you'd play big nickel blah blah blah. Yeah,

626
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

627
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Speaker 2: Could you imagine Jalen Ramsey and Kyle Hamilton is your safety?

628
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Speaker 3: That's nuts. And there's some stuff on in Matt's stats

629
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Speaker 3: about Hamilton where he's really aligning in the box a

630
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: lot since that Gilman trade, and it's and not coincidentally,

631
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Speaker 3: they're you know, yards for play. Things like that have

632
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: all gotten way better. So if you didn't have anyone

633
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Speaker 3: in place, if you're an expansion team, he's probably my pick. Yeah, yeah,

634
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

635
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Speaker 2: Like just one a Madden draft style starting with a

636
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Speaker 2: blank slate. I'm with you on that, but I think

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Speaker 2: I go with Flowers. My answers say flowers, Okay, I

638
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: the corners are tempting. Yeah, as you mentioned, Mattabuike if

639
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Speaker 2: he's healthy. Obviously, Kyle Hamilton is maybe the best safety

640
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: in football.

641
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: I bet them some really smart football people would be like,

642
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: you're dumb to stay Hamilton, right, and you're overthinking it,

643
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: Like but like we took Miles Garrett, you know.

644
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Speaker 2: Right, But this is just like in maybe it's recency

645
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: bias is a real thing with these conversations. So maybe

646
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: it's just coming off of that no playmakers a wide

647
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: receiver performance that we just witnessed for sixty minutes in Cleveland,

648
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Speaker 2: because I.

649
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Speaker 3: Was there her thinking I'm like, am I am? I

650
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 3: stuck in just the moment here, maybe, but that it

651
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Speaker 3: was really bad.

652
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Speaker 2: That we've been talking about that the same moment for

653
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Speaker 2: two years now, and.

654
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Speaker 3: We saw when pickings got hurt last year too, Like

655
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Speaker 3: and unless.

656
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: You invest a first or second round pick or a

657
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: big money free agency contract, guess what, Sorry, a pound

658
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Speaker 2: of the table. Mike's Max, Matt's mic over again, Mike's

659
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: Matt over again. I mean Matt's mic over again. I'm

660
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: trying to solve that problem. I'm tired of spinning my

661
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: wheels in that regard.

662
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 3: He's to be done.

663
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Speaker 2: He's twenty five years old. Yeah, you've still got him

664
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Speaker 2: on You still got him on his rookie deal for

665
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Speaker 2: another year?

666
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: Is that another year? I'm trying to figure that out.

667
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: He'd be in his prime for five and then.

668
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: You pick up his fifth year bonus option.

669
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Speaker 2: And I don't think, Yeah, you're gonna have to pay him,

670
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: but he's not gonna be a dk Metcalf thirty million

671
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: dollars a year guy like maybe.

672
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: Over twenty five. He's a pro bowler, he is, but

673
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: he would also stagger. I mean their ages are staggered

674
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: a little bit there too, you know.

675
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: Like you could get them. You could get them for

676
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: the Jacobi Meyers contract.

677
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 3: More more, yeah, not crazy more, but somewhere in that neighborhood.

678
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: I'm still will Like I find that I got money

679
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: for a guy who's twenty six. Yeah, yeah, it's a

680
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: different conversation if he's twenty nine or third, right, But

681
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: he's just like turned twenty six until next season.

682
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: Because then even like year three of that contract, Metcalf

683
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: probably still isn't making money, you know, I mean, these

684
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: guys don't last that long. You know, you could stagger it.

685
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: Maybe we are a prisoner of the moment. But I'm

686
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.

687
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: Beat you beat the Browns with the day Flowers. Yes,

688
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 3: do you beat him with Hamilton? No?

689
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: No, unless unless unless he takes a pick six a lot, right,

690
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: that's asking a lot. Maybe if he's Kyle Duggar, he

691
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: pulls that thing down and takes it back to that

692
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: you know what.

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00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: Obviously there's a he would help. He'd been nice to

694
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: have him wrong. But I think you win the game

695
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: with Flowers.

696
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: If you're if the question becomes who could you two

697
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: do you take off Baltimore that you don't want to

698
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: face this weekend?

699
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: Oh, Hamilton's Tinally it's.

700
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Speaker 2: Henry and Hamilton.

701
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

702
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: But but from this standpoint, when you're looking at the

703
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: Steelers front yard and you got to add to the landscaping,

704
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: I I want that twenty five year old wide receiver.

705
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: I think that's going to fit very nicely. Net Dk

706
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: metcalf for a handful.

707
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: Let Austin walk, you know, I mean you might do

708
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: those things anyways, You're not worried about the lunar MBS.

709
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: I'm just taking like big picture planning, and who knows

710
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: what's roman.

711
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you, Matt. More breaking news here, Okay.

712
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson just spoke post practice in Baltimore, set an

713
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Speaker 2: eye quote or was asked whether he's playing Sunday night.

714
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: Set an eye quote one.

715
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: Not sure. It's practicing full two days in a round.

716
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: So there you go the wall. But now we don't

717
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: have to speculate anymore. Lamar Jackson one hundred percent when

718
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Speaker 2: asked if he's going to go on Sunday night. We

719
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Speaker 2: come back on the other side. We'll have our final

720
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Speaker 2: segment here, a little college football conversation. We'll cross some

721
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Speaker 2: te's and dot some eyes before we get up out

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Speaker 2: of here. On this Thursday evening. Wes Shueler, Matt Williamson.

723
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Speaker 2: It is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Final segment here on this Thursday of the Drive on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt, with

729
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Speaker 2: our time difference here, I did want to talk a

730
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: little college football playoff with you. Absolutely time difference in

731
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Speaker 2: terms of like where we're at right now. The Texas

732
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Speaker 2: Tech and Oregon game is wrapping up and Oregon is

733
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Speaker 2: moving on, which means that now in the I guess

734
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Speaker 2: one and a half year history, but in the second

735
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Speaker 2: year here of the college football Playoff, in this twelve

736
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Speaker 2: team four for mat Yeah, Texas Tech will become oh

737
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: and six teams with the first round by that's nuts.

738
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: So all four last year lost their first game so

739
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: far this year, so far this year Ohio State last night,

740
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Speaker 2: Texas Tech today, oh for six teams with the first

741
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Speaker 2: round by.

742
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Speaker 3: Get nuts snapped in a minute. But so over six

743
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: is crazy, no matter what.

744
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: Crazy And I think it's because you're breaks. You're asking

745
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: these teams to take a month off.

746
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't opposed to three weeks though.

747
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: I mean that's so that's my thing, is Okay, So

748
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 2: Oregon got to stay home last week and comfortably beat JMU.

749
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: But so you're going out there, I think that makes

750
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: a difference compared to Texas Tech. Yeah, you know, you're

751
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: a it's a home game too, so you get to

752
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: stay on campus and your facilities and some.

753
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Speaker 3: Of these teams are in their conference championships to which

754
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 3: extends their seasons, right you know.

755
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 2: So, like I think the one that will be really

756
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Speaker 2: telling in this is I'm interested to see how this

757
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: looks like from the Indiana I'll.

758
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: Say they're the one that seems like the noticeable.

759
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: Because Indiana played in a conference championship game, but so

760
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: did Alabama and Alabama bat Bama had the one week

761
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: last week, tough game on the road in Norman, hostile

762
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Speaker 2: environment to get ready to get ready for the rose

763
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: ball today. So I'll be Indiana is the real kicker

764
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: for me, because I think Georgia is definitely gonna win.

765
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: They're playing old miss and hey, ole missus talented, Ole

766
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 2: Missus good, but again it's half their team is looking

767
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: for their next opportunity.

768
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're getting miss a good time.

769
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Speaker 2: A lot of the coaching staff is one foot in

770
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Speaker 2: Baton Rouge, one foot still at It's not a full

771
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: normal situation power yes, but I'm very, very interested to

772
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Speaker 2: see what Indiana looks like with Alabama having played last

773
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Speaker 2: week and.

774
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Speaker 3: Well last night. Yes, I mean, of all the upsets

775
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Speaker 3: of those six, is that the biggest one?

776
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Speaker 2: And well, if you just asked Vegas, yes they were.

777
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: They were the biggest a touchdown underdog, which isn't a

778
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: massive number, but still Miami was a touchdown underdog, and

779
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: oh much of that result ended up being the early

780
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: fourteen nothing starked at Miami. They jumped early. Yeah, to

781
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: kind of ride that until the very end when they

782
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: scored to go up ten at the end and put

783
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: it away with just like a minute left. But yeah,

784
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 2: Ohio State looked rusty out of the gate. Miami was

785
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: ready to play. And yeah, that's all second half.

786
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: It was pretty good.

787
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. Yeah, Yeah, but that's only the first quarter.

788
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: You can't win a game in the first quarter. But

789
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: maybe Ohio State lost it there.

790
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: Got Bo Jackson knowing you were talking about Bo Jackson

791
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Speaker 3: in the yeah, in between segments.

792
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: That's a good good stat pool from from TV that

793
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 2: Jim Harbor crazy has more rush yards in his NFL career.

794
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh has more in a rush yards in his

795
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: NFL career than Bo Jackson.

796
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was saying that. They even asked John Harbaugh,

797
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 3: which NFL coach is more rushing yards than Bo?

798
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Speaker 2: And he wait, is a gym that would be how

799
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Speaker 2: many coaches in the NFL even play in the NFL.

800
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Speaker 2: And then you have someone like Vrabel, who was a

801
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: defensive guy so it obviously wasn't him.

802
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: We would have figured it out actually because the.

803
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that is that is funny. But last night, yes,

804
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 2: I I know you watched some of that game. Did

805
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: you have any thoughts on either of the quarterbacks who

806
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: were obviously two of two of the big names Julian saying,

807
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: who won't be draft eligible till next year, but is

808
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 2: already at the forefront of that conversation. And Carson Beck,

809
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: who he's the one we need to talk about. I

810
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: told you was it probably two months ago at this point,

811
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Speaker 2: after after Miami lost to s m U and their

812
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: offense was putrid and Carson Beck was putrid, and he

813
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: went to his postgame press conference and blamed the coaching

814
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: staff in the play calls. And that's not the first

815
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 2: time he's done that in his career after a poor performance.

816
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: He did it at Georgia, He's done it once or

817
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: twice at Miami. And I was like, I'm out on

818
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: this guy. He's six or five, he's athletic, he's got

819
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 2: the arm, but there's just something that's not clicking for him,

820
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: something that doesn't clock him between where the brain is

821
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: to be. He's missing something.

822
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, the leader leadership stuff.

823
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 2: The leadership stuff, the intelligence quota stuff. I'm just I'm

824
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: out on this guy. And I think I said to

825
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: you guys, he's gonna have some moments the rest of

826
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: the season where it'll be like, wow, there it is.

827
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: I'm not buying into it. All right, I'm not doing it.

828
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: You didn't think they were gonna be again. So that

829
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: Ohio State defense looking as good as he did.

830
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: I'm not a cigarette guy, you guys know this. I

831
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 2: think in my entire life, I've maybe smoked two cigarettes,

832
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be I'm gonna be thirty five years

833
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: old here soon. But like Carson Beck is like cigarettes

834
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: to me for some people like I, just as soon

835
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: as I think I'm done and I've quit, there's that

836
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: nicotine sitting on the shelf with me. I said this

837
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: to TV when I walked in here today. I was

838
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: the first one in here. TV shortly after me. I

839
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: was like, dude, I think Carson Beck might be a

840
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: first round pick and he was like, oh, come on,

841
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: but you see it. The arm, the athleticism, the size.

842
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: He's going to be talked about with the Steelers first

843
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: round pick and some mocks, and I think we right

844
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: or wrong. That's coming, folks.

845
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Speaker 2: I am first guy at the forefront of wins or

846
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: not a quarterback stat don't talk to me about how

847
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: many games a quarterback is one or not one or

848
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: that used to be something with the with the diehard

849
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett people. But yeah, he's fourteen nine is a starter.

850
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: I don't care what his starting record is. Paul Skenes

851
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: just won the cy Young with a losing record. As

852
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: a starter. It obviously matters, it's a factor in the equation.

853
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: But if it's one of the first couple of things

854
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: that you're talking about with a quarterback, you're losing me already. Yeah. Yeah,

855
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: Carson beck Is and I understand he was at Georgia

856
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: in Miami, two perennial programs. He's fifteen and three against

857
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: ranked teams in his career.

858
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: He beats good team though.

859
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm the right again.

860
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: This analogy you eating bam, I'm sure And yeah, yeah.

861
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: This analogy would would you know Land better if I

862
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: was a cigarette smoker. But he's like that nicotine on

863
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: the shelf that I thought I quit, but now I'm

864
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: looking at it and I just want I might want

865
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: one last drag.

866
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 3: Is he definitely in this draft. Yes, I thought so. Yeah,

867
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 3: So he's he's coming out. I mean, he's go to

868
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 3: be in the conversation for QB two or three, depending

869
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: on more. I mean, there's not much to argue with.

870
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: Part of what I was saying to TV too, like

871
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: Bananaman knows, is that nailed on number one pick to

872
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: the Raiders.

873
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 3: Dante, even if he's terrible at the time people listen

874
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 3: to this, he's gonna be Yes, he can't hurt.

875
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: Yes, even if even if he struggles against Alabama, I

876
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: think he's still gonna be the middle one pick. There's

877
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: just like we talked about for an organization like the

878
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: Raiders too, Like there just seems like such a high

879
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: floor there. Yeah, maybe he's not a maybe he's not

880
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: a future Hall of Famer and a perennial All Pro,

881
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: but it seems like they're so little bust potent, like

882
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 2: at worse, he's Kirk Cousins.

883
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: You know. I mean, it's not a total crapshoot.

884
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Dante more goes fourth or fifth or somewhere

885
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: in that top five range. Two.

886
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: There's a lot of quarterback needy teams.

887
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 2: I said, That's what I said. I was like, is

888
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: there only going to be two quarterbacks taken in the

889
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: first round. I don't think so. That so rarely happens

890
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: to me right now, and so many things will change,

891
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: and we think.

892
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 3: Bo Nicks was going thirteenth or whatever. Correct, yeah, right, correct,

893
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: That's how this works.

894
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: That's exactly how this works. I think a lot of

895
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: people didn't know what if Jackson Dart would work his

896
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: way into the first round, you.

897
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: Know, I mean it might come to draft day, like

898
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 3: the Steelers won.

899
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: Mac Jons went a lot higher than people thought he

900
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: was gonna to.

901
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: J J.

902
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: McCarthy went higher than people thought he was going to.

903
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: I think Carson Beck's that third name. Now, that is

904
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: that guy lot can change. You know, Sawyer Robinson's gonna

905
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 2: throw his name in that run. That's going to throw

906
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: his name in that ring. If ty Simpson ends up

907
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: declaring for the draft, the Alabama quarterbacks say he has

908
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 2: a massive game today against Indiana, and even if they

909
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: lose a close one, he ends up declaring.

910
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: Put some tape out the fame.

911
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: I think Carson Beck could be that QB three by

912
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: the time when.

913
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: We're mocking it and stuff late late in the draft, process.

914
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: It wouldn't shock me right or wrong. It's just how

915
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: this works, folks. Yeah, Steelers won Beck, They're gonna have

916
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 3: to trade up eight spots. I could get to that point,

917
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 3: let alone. Would you even take him in the first round,

918
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 3: because like initially, I heard you guys kind of having

919
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: that conversation when I came in, and I was thinking

920
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: to myself, that guy screams the early second round totally

921
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: the shock car. I mean, there's so many of those

922
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: where they got a ward or two, but they could

923
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: be a pro. Most of those guys miss hurts. You know,

924
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: a lot of the early second round guys. A lot

925
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: of those guys go to better You're not you're a

926
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 3: bad team. You don't take one in the first round,

927
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 3: but you take one in the second round, you know,

928
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: like the Saints did.

929
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: And I am at a point now, Matt, where if

930
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: you did that, and I know you you do this

931
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: sometimes and I love it, like the genie in the

932
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: bottle comes to you and says, right now you can

933
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: have You could keep the Steelers second round pick, because

934
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: I don't think I wouldn't do it with the first

935
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm not saying yeah, And because I'm admittedly being a

936
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: little knee jerk from last night, and I realized some

937
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: people probably look at it too and be like, he

938
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: only threw for one hundred and thirty eight yards, you're

939
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: really salivating. But against that defense he also had. He

940
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: also had twenty You have to have trades for this,

941
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: like some big first downs with his legs and the

942
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 2: six five he's got, the arm he's got. The Athletics'

943
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: thick size is a trait. I mean, yeah, if you

944
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: said to me right now, would you swap the Steelers

945
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 2: second round pick for Carson Beck? I'd really consider it.

946
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: I would. I have the answers yet I probably still

947
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 2: still I still would with to be fair with Sawyer

948
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 2: Robinson and Taylor Green and those guys too, But I

949
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: think the answer would be yes.

950
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: Especially because you've got a lot of picks. You might

951
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: you might be buying a Benz that's one hundred grand

952
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: for sixty grand today, you know what I mean. You're

953
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: probably not.

954
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: Buying buying a house in Nashville before Nashville housing market

955
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: goes right.

956
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, obviously the world doesn't work that way

957
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 3: that we don't have the genie and sitting here in

958
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: the bottle, But if they come out and be like,

959
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: I will take your second round pick for Carson Beck,

960
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: all right.

961
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: I would have I think I would have said all

962
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: right for Sawyer Robinson and Tayling Green I and I'd

963
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: throw Carson Beck. I can't believe I'm doing it.

964
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like, now, it would be nice.

965
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: We don't get this this luxury. I'd love to sit

966
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: down and have dinner with them and having the facility

967
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: for the day. And he may leave it. They'll be like,

968
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: get out.

969
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't trade my sixth round pick.

970
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: Take him to the airport. I cannot spend the next

971
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: ten years of that dude. Who knows you know, these guys,

972
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: especially quarterback.

973
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: But like I said right now, like I'm like the

974
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: Marlborough Man and I've been clean for a few months. Yeah, yeah,

975
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: he's he's he's looking at me through that packaging and

976
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: and and tempting me to light up one last time.

977
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: That'll do it for the show today. Tomorrow, on Friday,

978
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: maybe we'll have a little recap of some of these

979
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: college football games, but obviously we will be dead set

980
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: on Steelers Ravens, two Dogs, one bone.

981
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: Sunday, second straight day. Josh Allen didn't practice either.

982
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I would sit juicy. Jordan Love got cleared,

983
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: but they're going to shut them down for the week

984
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: which which Herbert shut down. You know, I think that's

985
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: hey would you do? And you don't really have much

986
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: to play for in week eighteen? And keep your eyes

987
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: on the prize. Thanks to Chris Hallick for joining us today.

988
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: A big shout out to our two producers Nathan on

989
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: the audio side TV mister Tyler V he keeping us

990
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: handsome on the video side. For Matt Williamson, I'm West Wheeler.

991
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: Take care everybody, and we will talk to you tomorrow.

992
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,960
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993
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and Gold.

994
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