WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Will McClay Joins The Show 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:07.720 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:18.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the player's label, 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:22.880 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:28.520 Now your hosts Buried Church, Danny McCrae, and new he scrugs. 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:36.680 All right, everybody, hump day, hump day weekner. How boys 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.560 getting ready to face the Atlanta Falcons. And here on 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.200 the players last, we have a special guests. I'm knew 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.800 he's scrugs, by the way, joined by former Cowboys saying 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.400 he's Danny McCray and Buried Church. This show brought to 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.479 you by Hotels dot Com. And let's bring in the 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:54.320 guru right now. He is playing Will McClay, who is 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:56.840 gonna drop some knowledge on us because there's a lot 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.240 of moving parts going on here with the Cowboys. You 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:02.320 guys have question, So all right, Church, take it away. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.560 We're going ahead. We're gonna let Danny go ahead and 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:07.039 take it away. I think he had a great first 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.679 question for Will. And by the way, Will, I mean 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:11.880 most of our viewers they already know you as the guru, 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.280 the guy that brings all the talent into the Dallas Cowboys. 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.760 But little known fact for our listeners. Will McClay on 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.800 the side is an amazing DJ. If you want your 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.720 playlist right, that's the man you gotta talk to. Get 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.920 you for the jogs, He get you for the workout, 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.560 anything you need. My man is an amazing DJ. Man. 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.200 A little no fact, just a little no fact. I'm 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.640 just a DJ forth that earns you know. There we go, 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.720 nah man, Yeah, so hey, we'll listen. We definitely appreciate 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.959 you for coming off first. And I'm gonna say it 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.080 personally for myself when I played, I know that you 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.760 always looked out for me. So I definitely appreciate that. 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:53.960 And Church the same because you have to go find 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.160 both of us to get us to come on. So 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:59.520 appreciate it. But so lead lead from that. We'll leading that. 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.320 I guess the at least to our next question is 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.559 so speaking with Jerry Jones and hearing what he said about, 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.600 you know, working in the house to find some replacements 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.840 for some of the guys who are injured. Just trying 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.480 to like pick your brain and see like what what's 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.720 the process for deciding if you're going to go in house, 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:18.800 and how you how you kind of evaluate those guys 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.440 to see if they're able to be starters for the 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.240 remainder of the season or however long they need to 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:26.440 be starters, versus going you know, outside to go find talent. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.760 You know, it's it's really next man up first off, 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.080 because when you have a roster and guys that have 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:33.679 been working on things and all that we didn't have 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.840 a full preseason. The players that you have, hopefully you 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.760 get the right ones to start with. They learn kind 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.560 of what they're doing, uh, and then the coaches have 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:44.720 to look at the players that we have and see 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:46.680 how we're going to use the guys that are on 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:50.359 the roster. If they're serviceable, serviceable for us to run 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.120 the offense or defense, or be able to adjust and 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.200 still do what we do, we go in house. If 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.280 it's something that's a little bit more concerning, we would 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.040 go out, you know and try and find somebody that 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.519 fits specific what they were looking for. The best part 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.760 about it, though, is going back to the draft and 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:05.680 working with coach McCarthy and the staff is get us 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.440 good football players. If we got good football players, you know, 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.840 then the coaches can find places to put them in, 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:15.440 things to do to work within the scheme. Well why. Well, 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.760 for me, my question would have to be, well, you know, 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:20.960 I mean, you've you've dealt with and you've been around 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.360 playing plenty of secondaries and including some of our better 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.760 secondaries when I was there, and some of our worst secondaries. 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:30.600 But for my question is what did you think of 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.000 the play of this young secondary for a Week one? 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.280 I mean, I know they're young, they have some experience 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.520 back there, but they're pretty young. M what did you 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.680 feel like their play was for the Week one and 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.000 against the Rams? I felt like, you know, for the 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.720 whole team, it was kind of a new deal. Was 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.480 like the first preseason game, and it seemed like because 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.160 now you're out there live and so there were some 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.400 things technically that we didn't complete all the way, but 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.640 you see the opportunity to grow, and you see some 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.400 of the plays that they may you know that there's 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.920 gonna be some guys that just sep up and do things. 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.640 And then we're getting Jay Lou back and so there's 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:07.120 a bunch of flexibility and versatility within the defense. So 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.000 if they just hit the queues and in La was 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:13.440 playing the game more lateral than vertical, So it was 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.160 probably the way that the guys stepped up. And you 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:18.680 know dbs, especially corners. You safety's tackle, but corners don't 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.640 like to tackle. But our corners stepped up and tackle 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.920 and played well they did. And for our viewers out there, 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:26.560 can you can explain what you meant by the Rams 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.600 playing more of a lateral game than a vertical game. Yeah, 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.599 you know, typically you want to see that they didn't 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:34.840 want to face our pass rush, and so they ran 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:36.760 a lot of screens and a lot of their passes 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.440 were under three to four yards, so you know, the 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.320 pass rush wasn't able to get there, and they were 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.240 playing the game sideline. The sideline, they were trying to 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.200 make us run laterally as opposed to vertically, you know, 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.960 running the deeper routes and doing those sort of things. Okay, okay, 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.240 And then part two of my question, I should have 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.280 prefaced it by saying there was two parts to it. 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:59.080 But with the addition of Brandon Carter, what do you 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.599 think a better like him? You know, he's a consummate pro. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:03.840 He pretty much can show you the ropes of how 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:05.919 to watch film, how to break down things. But what 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:10.200 do you think he can bring to this Dallas Cowboy secondary? Yeah, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.480 he brings that leadership like you talked about number one, 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.960 and you know, with a group of young guys, you know, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.040 there's there's something that you have to learn about being 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.200 a pro, like you said, like watching the tape about 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.760 how to prepare, you know, what to expect those things. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.359 So he brings that knowledge, but also his ability to 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.640 play all over and one of the things that we're 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.000 looking for in the defensive versatility, the way the game 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.640 is played offensively now you know, it's about matchups and 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.400 doing those things. So he's just another piece. He can 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.560 play nicol, he can play the dime linebacker, he can 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.720 play safety. You know, he can play free, you can 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.160 play strong. So I think with all of that that 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.680 experience he has, he understands the things that can happen him, 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.920 communicate well and help these young guys, you know, as 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:53.400 we go into the next phase of it. Well, cool, gotcha. 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.200 And then for me, you know, just looking forward, I mean, 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:58.680 I know you're not coach McCarthy, but just just to 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.000 kind of get your idea on a few things that 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.720 we may be able to do better to, you know, 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.600 to perform a little bit better as we move on 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:08.480 in the season, right, because I know we had a 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.760 few issues with the run, and like you said, this 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:12.720 team that they didn't want to face our pass for us, 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.640 so they want to go sideline the sideline. So I 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.920 would imagine that, you know, a few teams will watch 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:18.400 the film and try to do the same thing as 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.040 the Rams did. So just just your idea on some 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.240 things that we could possibly do better to negate teams 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:25.880 that come in and think that that'll be the way 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.280 to beat us. I think, you know, from every experience, 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.880 you learn and we understand that, you know, they were 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:34.920 running more of the zone scheme, trying to get us 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:38.760 to go lateral those things up front. So when you 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.359 go and you adjust, uh know, like we did in 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.000 the second half, from from limiting them being able to 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.320 score and limiting the run some we're playing a little 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.159 bit faster upfront and then in the secondary, you just 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.640 there's there's a number of different things that we can 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.600 do differently. It's it's you know, we're gonna play a 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.679 little bit more man coverage if you mix your man's 0:06:56.680 --> 0:07:00.360 and your zones together the right way, and you you 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.520 dial up your fronts a little bit different. Not to 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.000 get into any sort of scheme wise stuff, but I 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.720 just think we have to play with more consistency, your 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:12.760 more urgency early on, right and so, and I mentioned that, 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.440 you know, so we got a new DC. Everything's pretty 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:19.600 much new, new defensive coordinator news, especially coordinator, new offense. Uh, 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:21.880 you know, Kelling is in the second year. But you 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.040 got you know, a little little stuff from Mike McCarthy 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.840 coming in. My thought was that just like when Rob 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.480 Ryan came in and we had the lockout and we've 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.360 missed the entire offseason, it was a little difficult for 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.720 us to pick up the defense because we didn't have 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.320 as much time to install and get those rips. So, 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.320 you know, just me watching the game, I didn't see 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.600 as much you know, exotic type stuff. So I just 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.640 imagine that that stuff will come in. Do you see 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.920 these guys being able to you know, were they able 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:55.080 to pick up I guess everything that that that that 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.960 was thrown at them throughout training camp. Yeah, they've done 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.559 a good job of picking things up. And there's uh, 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.160 you know when when you say, geez, get me good players, um, 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.840 and we'll fit the scheme around it. There's multiple parts 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.560 of the scheme that the players have to learn too. So, 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.280 you know, first time in live action doing all that stuff. 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.800 It does take some time. And just like you said that, uh, 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.600 you know like when Rob came in, uh that that year. Uh, 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:22.440 it was new things that you had to do. Well 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.480 you think about it, Um, the guys are going through 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.480 those steps and kind of understanding the defense. And you 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.600 think so many of our players that we're coming back 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:33.520 from last year. We're in the old scheme and it's 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.880 different from going verticals and now, you know, especially upfront, 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.719 to playing more two gap and playing more flat. So 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.720 you have to continue to get those game reps to 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.520 get that skill set down to to you know, to 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.960 understanding to play the new scheme. And guys are getting it. 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.400 And that's the thing. It's that you know, like Tyrone 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.360 Crawford was saying to me, it's like, hey man, we 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.280 were so used to going up field that you know, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.040 for your first instinct is this, you know, to play 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.640 it that way. But the more reps you get, the 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.520 better you'll get at it. And a new opponent is 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.640 going to bring new challenges. So it's just everybody being 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:11.920 on the same page that that's really perfect man, because 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.320 because and I said it, just because from experience, it's 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.600 difficult for like if you get into like week three 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.679 and you and your team is not able to stop 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:23.240 the run, right, usually like for the rest of the season, 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:24.679 you're just knowing as the team is not able to 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.680 stop the run. It's hard to be to be able 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.440 to fix that after you get into the season. But 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.560 when you go into you know, the explanation that you 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.040 gave man, and it makes me feel more positive about 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.080 it because it's like, it's some things that we can change. 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:41.080 The familiarity with the scheme and you know, old ways 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.280 have to turn into new ways or things that we 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.800 can fix and help us become, you know, a dominant 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.320 run stopping team versus hey, man, we just we're just 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.200 not physical. We can't stop the run. We're just out 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.080 of place, right. So it's it's things to look forward to. 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:55.959 It's definitely things to look forward to. The thing that 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.120 I feel good about is that you have people that 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.920 can do the and then their commitment to doing it. 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.760 It's just like out there at practice today, you know, defensively, 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.400 you have enough veteran leadership and guys that have been 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.720 around and have pride in what they do that are 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.040 going to force each other to get better and eliminate 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.680 the mistakes and do the things that's necessary for a 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.800 team to overcome the You know, some of the things 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.320 from last week will be much better this week because 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.440 the guys are taking it on themselves. And that's the 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.200 thing I'm most proud of is the people that you 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.200 bring in and how they push each other to be 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:34.760 better and hold each other accountable. Dope, Yeah, I'm meaning it. 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:42.120 Go ahead. I thought I dropped the mic. I'm trying 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.560 to let the guys ask the questions here because it's 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.679 their show. But can you help me in two situations here? 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:52.160 One with Sean Lee having surgery here talk, can you 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.120 give us some information more about your you know, what 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.800 you're doing to reinforce the livebacker spot? And also is 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:02.560 Jordan Lewis expected to play against Atlanta on Sunday? Yeah, 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.880 Jordan's taking reps. Uh Luke Gifford, who didn't play last week, 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:10.000 He's taken reps. You know, Joe Thomas stepped in. We 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.600 you know, we've got players that we feel like can 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.400 come in and fill in the spots. You never replace 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.760 a Layton vander Ess or a Sean Lee, but the 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:20.559 guys that come in, they can do their deal. As 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.679 well and fit into the defense. Well, that's why we 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.120 kept them here, so I expect them to step up 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:29.200 and play. This their time to shine too. All Right, 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.520 on one thing that we've had people talking about, and 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.480 you get the overreaccents the first game and it's just 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.959 cowboy nation and they want to go overboard. But I've 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.200 heard people say, well, maybe this time to put Carter 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.959 Williams and tackle and then maybe put Joe Louie at 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.760 guard to put it. I mean, people want all kinds 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.679 of changes here on the old line after what we 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:53.200 tell people the process of what training camp is like 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.920 and what combinations guys are used to, and that you 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.360 just kind of don't throw out the whole thing after 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:02.160 one week because you lost by three. No, we believe 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:03.920 in the people that we have and they have to 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.360 improve what they're doing. We have to help them out 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.560 with some of the things we're doing and with it's 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.240 like riding a bike. The first time you wrote it, 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.000 you might have skin your needa first time. Now the 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.480 second time you got better, The third time you got better. 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:16.760 We feel good about the group. No, it's not Leo 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:18.920 Collins out there and some of the stuff, but these 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:20.960 guys are paid to do, you know, to do their jobs, 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:22.640 and that's what we expect to do well. You can't 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.920 just switch everything around. It's not fantasy football. You can't 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.120 take a piece and put it into place and think 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:31.600 that everything runs consistently from the beginning. Um, you know, 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.840 it's like you go into your job. If you've got 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:35.720 somebody new working next to you, you you have to figure 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:37.720 them out and you still have to do your job. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.560 And that's that's where we're at right now, and we 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.160 feel better about it, and we have to continue to 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:46.240 do things to uh, you know, work to use our 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.320 strengths to you know, to the positive and overcome some 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.199 of the negatives by doing some things that way schematically. 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.200 And that's what all our teams are going to have 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:55.600 to do. The teams that are wanting to know, they're 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.600 gonna have problems next week and then everybody will be 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.760 talking about them. So it is a marathon, not a sprint. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.160 Let me ask one more question. This is talking about 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.960 the tight end Blake Jarwin, who's a guy you identified 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.200 two years ago as a player, really liked him and 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.120 we all thought this was going to be the breakout season. 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.480 But he's out for the year. With a torn acl 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:17.400 You helped draft Dalton Schultz, he's the backup. How does 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.839 coach McCarthy and Kellen Moore, how did they coach him 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.280 up to be able to now take over this role 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.720 that Blake Jarwin had. I mean, I think we're going 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.319 to do it by committee. You know, Blake Jarwin broughts 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.000 something something a little bit different, that element to threaten 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.800 the seam, you know, from the tight end position. Dalton 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.319 can do some of those things. Maybe we do it formationally. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.760 We have other weapons that can you know, achieve the 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:44.320 same kind of what Blake's role might have been on 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.280 some plays. We have different ways of setting it up 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.959 and doing that. I think you never replace him. But 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.559 then we use the strength of Blake Bell, Dalton Schultz, 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.800 Sean McKeon, you know, we use those guys and maybe 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:56.880 some of the other receivers. There's just a different way 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:02.960 to attack it. But great Church, what else you got form? 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.120 Will McClay, I'm good. I mean I think he pretty 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.120 much hit on all figures. I mean, as always, he's 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.040 a proud what he does. Man. Thank you once again, 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.120 Will for us stepping on the player's lines with us. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:18.040 I got to appreciate it. Yeah, one question for you. No, no, no, 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.560 it's and it has nothing to do with football. The 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.680 Rockets are out. You know, we both agtown guys, right, 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.720 So we still have we still have we still have 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.640 to pick somebody to win. Who's winning the NBA Championship 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:35.880 this year. I hate to say it, but it's probably 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:40.560 gonna be the Lake Show. But he he didn't surprised me. 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.840 That he didn't surprised me. Uh. And the way they play, 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.080 and that's one of those deals where that's a great 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.920 story and looking at a team coming together when people 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.760 didn't think you know, that whole deal. And before I leave, 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.880 I wanted to say the reason why I love coming 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.680 on this show and seeing Danny McCray and Burry Churches players. No, 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.480 you know, I used to always go to them and practice. 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:04.280 We would talk about a guy, a young guy coming 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.640 in and what are you thinking? And it's just like 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.680 on this radio show. You guys work together and do 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:12.000 well and enjoy listening to you and doing those things. 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.280 And I'm proud to be part of the old dB crew. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:23.280 I'm the oldest of the crew. Yes, all right, DJ 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:28.400 will so so I need your professional opinion is better 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:33.400 Tupac or Biggie who you got? Oh yeah, you can't 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:37.960 do that to me. No trouble, trouble, no, No. I 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:44.640 am from the South, so we typically liked the West 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.280 Coast when I was younger, but Biggie was the guy. 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.320 Was the guy to me. Biggie was the okay, was 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:56.640 the guy that I'm talking about East Coast coast representative. 0:15:56.320 --> 0:16:03.080 I love it. I'm I'm really, I'm really, I'm really scarface, 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:09.280 So don't even go there. Okay, all right, okay, I've 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:16.040 never seen a man cry till usen a man die. Okay, scarface. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:22.160 So we have another player's lounge kind of debate at times. 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:25.840 Will and went away in on this. Danny and Barry 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:30.480 love the movie Life with Eddie Murphy. I don't think 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:34.000 it is a better movies at all. I'm down on Life. 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:38.040 So where do you stand on that movie? Like I 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.880 quote Life, Maybe it's because I spent time around them 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:44.560 young fellows, but I watched Life, and I actually watched 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.720 Life with my son. Oh, I don't know. During the 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.200 we were staying at home and we were both dying laughing. 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.720 It's it's not it's not as funny as Harlem Nights, 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:01.880 it's top five? Is it Eddie top five? Okay, because 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.640 I don't think it's. Oh, there's no question, there's no questions. 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.480 There's no question because because because of all of the 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.120 Beverly Hills cops, they all run together. So that's one 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:16.760 movie right there. So okay, yeah, yeah, So so it's life, 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.960 it's Harlem Knights. Um, it's that one where he was 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:30.720 talking to the tree. Now I'm just kidding. Thanks, it's three. 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.359 What's your top five new? What's your what's your top 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.879 five new? Okay? From from my Eddie Murphy h forty 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.480 eight hours. Loved that when he played Reggie Hammond in 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.840 there Beverly Hills Cop. Beverly Hills Cop is in there. 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.760 Um one that the guys shot me down on. But 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:50.399 I think was was really an Oscar performance and he 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.840 should have won. It was when Eddie Murphy played in 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.880 dream Girls. He was fantastic playing that character Jimmy in 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.119 that movie. I thought he was sensation. You watched that 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.480 with your wife, See there's a difference. Watch you talk 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:06.399 about the ones with the colors. No, no, I did not. 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.119 I did not watch that with my wife. I actually 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.480 watched that on the road in my car driving from 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:22.160 Dallas foot or to Austin. What you yeah, Yeah, that's 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.840 like I thought it was so good. Yeah, you only 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:27.960 watched ten minutes of it because you were watching. I 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.320 watched the whole thing. I watched the whole thing in 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.560 my car because Lusaka Polite and some other guys um 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.960 had this hook up with a with a car guy 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.080 and they could go ahead and switch your screens that 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:43.920 you could actually watch your screen while you dropped while 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:50.000 I drove, So remind me to never drive when you're 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:52.000 on the highway. Knew it because you might be watching 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.040 a movie and it might be a tear jerker. I 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.479 don't want to be on the road. He gonna be 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.520 called the correct, he gonna be calling the correct Cowboy. 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:06.680 You keep all right. We're late for our break. We're 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:08.879 late for our break. We'll thank you so much for 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.720 stopping by, and we appreciate talking in cowboy football and 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:13.800 other things with you. My man. I'll have a good one. 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.960 We'll well, we'll be looking for Cowboys victories. They take 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.920 on Atlanta, the first first game with home game with 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:25.760 ye Jerry World. Thank you, buddy, appreciate all right. That's 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:28.200 Will McClay here on the Players Labs with Neuis Scrugs, 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.920 Danny McCray and Barry Church. 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And there we scrupts 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:11.440 a long time Cowboys reporter joined by former Dallas Cowboys 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:14.600 players safeties Danny McCray and Barry Church. And we want 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:17.920 to thank Will McClay for popping on here to guru 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:20.520 who helps pick the Cowboys players. Will one of the 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:23.280 more knowledgeable football guys out there. I always enjoyed my 0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:27.200 football conversations with him, and hopefully you guys enjoyed what 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:30.000 we brought to you as well. Danny, Barry, tell me 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:32.560 what stood out from you from what we heard from 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:36.960 Will McClay. For me, we stood out the most is 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.639 how how firm he was on the belief of, you know, 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:41.159 they have to bring him in house. I mean it 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:43.200 seems like when I'm talking about in house, I'm talking 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:45.600 about bringing up with the injuries of you know, Blake 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:48.480 Jarwin and Lvee and Sean Lee. It stood out to 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:50.840 me that they all had that same philosophy. It's like, look, 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:53.760 we gotta look in house first to bring it up. 0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:56.440 And he basically broke down the whole situation, like how 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:59.080 they go from training camp to or from you know, well, 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:01.159 this year it was just training camp, and however you 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:03.359 can't just you know, put pieces here and here like 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:05.760 this fantasy football. These guys have jailed together through all 0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:07.520 of camp and they got to figure it out that way. 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:09.720 So definitely bringing it up through in house and I 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:14.159 thought that was pretty interesting. Yeah, And for me, I 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:18.360 think it was it brought me from the disappointing Monday 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:22.000 morning quarterback to you know, feeling more positive about what 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:25.160 we have going forward, right because I watched the game 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:27.760 and as upset as I was, you know, watching us 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:29.800 not being able to stop, to run and do certain things, 0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:32.160 it brought me back to you know, he said, riding 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:34.080 a bike, right, the first time you get on, you 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:35.919 might you might scratch your knee up, and you do 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.800 have to realize that we didn't tackle, we didn't really hit, 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:40.879 we didn't have preseason. There's a lot of stuff that 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:43.080 we didn't do that we normally do, and it just 0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:45.399 you know, he made me feel like it just showed 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:47.800 up in Game one. And you know, as we as 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:50.080 we progressed through the season, we should be able to 0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:52.560 fix some of those things, right, the players not being 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:54.840 used to two gaping and being in Twitter from a 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:56.560 two one gap to a two gap and those type 0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.320 of things, those are really big changes, right, So it'll 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:01.280 take them from time to learn that. So I won't 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:03.600 I won't so much expect them to turn it around 0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:05.720 this week. I expect them to play better, but as 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.159 the as the year goes on, I think they'll be 0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:09.480 able to pick that up and get rid of those 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.680 always and uh you know and buying and be able 0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:16.880 to compete in this new defense. I first met Will 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:21.080 McClay when he was the Dallas Desperadoes head football coach. 0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.760 Well actually was assisted then he ended up taking over 0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:27.560 for Joe Avazano and they were really good football team. 0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:30.080 And so getting to talk to Will and seeing how 0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:32.879 he actually ran a team in the confidence the guys 0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:35.199 had in him, um, that's where I first got to 0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:38.159 meet him. So I know he knows his football and 0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:41.320 the understanding of the game. I just really liked how 0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.760 what Barry was saying. He set us straight because after 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:46.520 the first week, you know, he got people want to 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.720 fire Kelly Moore, people that were well throw running, take 0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:54.040 out steel, put right, put put Carter Williams at the 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.439 right tackle spot, moved Joe Luny off center, put in 0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:59.560 a rookie. I mean, all these changes after one game 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:02.880 in which you lost by three points. We saw other 0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.640 people get destroyed week one. The Cowboys are right there 0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.800 till the very end of this football game, and I'm 0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.679 wearing this. Dallas Stars had congratulations and the Stars they 0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:13.680 won the West. They're gonna go play for the Stanley 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.600 Cup four wins away. And one thing that I'm reminded 0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:19.600 about is how their season started. Guys, the Stars were 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:23.800 one seven and one to start the season. People were saying, 0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.320 you know, this team's no good. These guys don't have 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:30.600 any heart, and they got it. It's a long sports 0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:33.560 or a long season. We like everybody to start out 0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:36.040 with a bang. But guess what Cowboys started out three 0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:37.800 and old. Last year. People sitting there talking about Super 0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:39.239 Bowl and this is not a team that ended up 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:44.199 in twenty nineteen making the playoffs. So just just hold on, Okay, 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:48.120 hold on football teams take a while ago. Yes, yes, 0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.600 mccraig ahead, No, No, I want to. I want to 0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:52.919 make this clear while we're on the show. I was 0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:58.360 specifically talking about the defense what I saw office. I 0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:01.040 am still not happy with the play calling, you know, 0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.159 some of that that it had nothing to do with 0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:05.240 the players being out there and being able to take 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:08.199 contact right, And I was specifically talking about us not 0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:10.480 being able to stop the run, and it turned not 0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.000 us not being able to rush the passer and having 0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.520 an opportunity to some of the stuff I saw offense. 0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:17.240 I still feel the same way that I felt on 0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:19.919 Monday about it. My mind can be changed. But I 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:22.240 was specifically just talking about the defense, you know it 0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:24.000 shuffling up re shuffling in the old line and all 0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.080 that stuff. I don't think so. But I was specifically 0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:29.240 talking about us utilizing our playmakers to stretch the feel 0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:36.800 and make big plays. So you're still mad, No, I 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:39.280 was mad. I was mad when I'm confused, and then 0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:43.280 hopefully hopefully on Sunday, I'm no longer confused. I'm either 0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:45.879 what I what I'm thinking is right or I was like, 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.160 I'm wrong. All right, now we're putting are we putting 0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:52.720 some real stuff in? Okay? All right, all right, Well 0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:55.800 it's Wednesday, and and Mike McCarthy already said his press 0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:58.440 conference said they're moving forward. You can't do anything else 0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:01.240 about the Ram game. It's time to go ahead and 0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:03.520 go to Atlanta. And one of the differences, and I 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:05.720 thought Will McClay pointed out very well, the Rams have 0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.760 decided we are going to go with quick passes. We're 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:12.440 not going to allow your pass rushers to We're not 0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:13.800 gonna get in that game. We're not going to have 0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:17.600 our quarterback dropping back doing five seven step drops. Well, 0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:20.480 we know Atlanta with Maddie Ice, he likes to go 0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.320 ahead and drop back and sling that thing. So the 0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:26.600 matchup this week, if Atlanta doesn't change, if they go 0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:28.880 out there and do what they did against Seattle, this 0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:31.600 can play into the Cowboys hands. It's going to be 0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:35.240 fun to see exactly how both defenses, okay, both defenses 0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:37.520 have warts, how they slow this down. I expect the 0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:41.399 high scoring game between the Cowboys and the Falcons because 0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.560 both teams have some really good receiving weapons in this 0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.640 game here, so I'm looking forward to Yeah, I'm looking 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.479 forward to it as well. And like you said, it 0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.480 was it was very interesting that how he broke that down, 0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.119 how they wanted to play more lateral instead of a 0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.200 vertical and I think that was a great point and 0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.040 MC they did a great job coaching that, but it 0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:03.080 took basically, they took the aggressiveness from the defensive line 0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:04.880 because if you if you don't have time to get 0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:06.760 back there, if you start to get frustrated and then 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:08.840 you say, Okay, how else can I impact this game? 0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:10.879 Maybe if I put my hands up and jumped in, 0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:12.640 you know, try to bat balls and everything, but then 0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:14.960 that takes away from your pass rush. So I have 0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:16.960 to think the Rams did a great job of basically, 0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:20.399 like Will said, playing ladder onstead of vertical. Now with Atlanta, 0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.480 I think they're more of a vertical team. You always 0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.320 see Maddie Ice back there taking those five step drops 0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:27.400 rather than those three step jobs. So I think that 0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.520 plays into the hand of our defensive line. I think 0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:31.320 we can be a little bit more aggressive this week, 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:33.520 and hopefully we can get after Matt Ryan because we're 0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:37.560 gonna need to. Yeah, I still feel the same I 0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:41.040 think that the that the Falcons can actually run some 0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.640 of the same stuff that the that the Rams ran. 0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:47.120 So if we have to adjust and we have to 0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.000 prepare to see this throughout the rest of the season, 0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:51.800 teams trying to negate our pass rush by getting the 0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:56.040 ball out quick and possibly running lad eally. So you know, defensively, 0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.720 our defensive line and linebackers like the number one focus 0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:00.480 is being able to stop the run because those sharp 0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:03.040 passes don't work. You can't do that all game if 0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:04.640 you aren't able to pick up three and four your 0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:08.040 games on runs consistently, So we're still going to have 0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:11.280 to stop it. Okay, stay with me there, Danny, on 0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:14.320 your point. I was talking to a former coaching player 0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:16.680 who said to me one of the issues that the 0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.480 Cowboys had was from a defensive backstandpoint, if you know, 0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.160 all right, they're going to go quick, all right, And 0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:26.000 Jared Golf was basically wherever he looked, he threw the ball. 0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.440 So if he took the snapstartered looking left, he was 0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.680 throwing left. His feeling was that the Cowboy dbs needed 0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.400 to play up closer, and he said, because they were 0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:36.280 not trying to go over the top, they weren't trying 0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:37.680 to throw deep because they were getting rid of the 0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:40.280 football quicker. So if they're doing that, why not play 0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:45.640 up on them closer? And so that'll go ahead, go ahead. Well, well, 0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:47.479 see that that's what the rams do. That's great, right, 0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:50.080 So they get you in these tight formations, and as dbs, 0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:52.800 what happens was when you put the receivers so tight, 0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:55.920 dbs have to get on different levels, right, So it's 0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.600 difficult for them to get up and press every play 0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:00.840 because that would create a lot of pick routs. And 0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:04.040 I'm sure that McBay had some options to where we're 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:05.680 pressing all the time, they'll figure out a way to 0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:07.640 pick us and run wheelwrights and get the get the 0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.640 ball deep down the field. 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For details, visit the Star in Frisco 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:15.600 dot com. Back here for another segment of the Player Round. 0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:19.240 Danny McCray, Barry Church, former Cowboys Safeties join me every 0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.720 day at two thirty pm. And I'm just merely Knewy Scrugs, 0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:28.480 longtime Cowboys reporter. We are in our SWBC Mortgage virtual 0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:33.560 home studios. Here all right, Sean Lee, cowboy linebacker. We 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:37.560 were thinking was gonna come off the ir after three games. 0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:40.240 That's not gonna happen. He's gonna be on longer. He 0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:44.440 had surgery for a sports hernia there. So what is 0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:48.560 the concern level, Danny McCray, because we have Sean Lee 0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:51.320 out for an extended time and Layton vander Esh two 0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.520 of your top three linebackers not going to be in 0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:57.480 the lineup for a minute. For me, it's a pretty 0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.640 big concern. Like I said, I know, I keep harping 0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:01.280 on being able to stop the run, but we need 0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:03.120 linebackers that are able to get in there and take 0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:05.800 on those blocks and stop the run. And when LV 0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.120 goes down, you you you assume that you have a 0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.759 pretty strong backup and the Great Sean Lee, and then 0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.120 now that he's out, now you possibly have to go 0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.160 to it was a second year and then a rookie 0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:17.560 player or somebody or if you go outside, somebody that's 0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:19.759 not familiar with the defense. So I think it's a 0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.080 big concern. But you know, like Will came on here 0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:24.080 and I feel more positive about it that he believes 0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:25.600 in the guys that we have in the locker room, 0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.640 so you know, he's never let me down, so I'm 0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:33.560 with him. To me, it's it's a little concerning, even 0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.719 even with us with the stuff the Great Will had 0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.040 had said to us earlier. I mean, we did struggle 0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.960 a little bit versus the Rams versus a run, and 0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:45.040 that just compounds even more with Lve going down, and 0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.680 we don't have a backup with the capabilities like Sean 0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.799 Lee who's experienced, who knows what to do and can 0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.719 bring everybody together. We don't have that. So right now, 0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.359 I think we got Joe Thomas as there in there 0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.680 as as a backup with the in house bringing it up, 0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:01.040 and he's he's a good but I see him more 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:04.359 of that dime linebacker role, that that coverage type linebacker role. 0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.000 I don't see him, you know, sticking his nose in 0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:08.400 there and being a banger each and every down. And 0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:10.440 then what happens if he goes down they were going back. 0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:12.239 Then we've got to go to Luke Gifford, who I 0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.480 think this is his second year in the league and 0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.319 he hasn't had a lot of playing experience. So I'm 0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:19.800 pretty concerned when it comes to this defense stopping the 0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.480 run in that front seven. So hopefully they can find 0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:25.280 something to get done for this week coming up against Atlanta. 0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:27.799 I know their run game doesn't look as strong as 0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.399 it did in years past, but Todd Gurley, I mean, 0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:32.960 he might not be the Todd Gurley of old, but 0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:34.879 he can still run the ball well. And we're gonna 0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:36.840 need that linebacking corps in there to help stop it. 0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:40.319 So hopefully they will have a solution by Sunday. The 0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:42.840 shame of it is is something we spoke about before 0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.719 the draft, talking about the linebacker situation. We said, hey, look, 0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:50.480 you already know Sean Lee traditionally doesn't give you sixteen games. Okay, 0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.200 it's just in his career he's only done at one time, 0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.680 and with late vander Esh missing time that you had 0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:58.840 two guys who if you're just being honest, you shouldn't 0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.720 look to to finish sixty football games. And we're already 0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:05.000 at that point. If you're the Cowboys, obviously you patch 0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.479 work it and you deal with it. But you start 0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.279 looking into the draft in twenty twenty one, this now 0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:14.120 becomes another position you have to look at. You know 0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:16.319 you've got this. You've got the tight end spot because 0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:18.680 Blake Jarl's gonna be coming off at ACL. You gotta 0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:20.680 look at the tackle spot here. You may have to 0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:24.600 draft yourself a swing tackle. After watching Lell Collins deal, 0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:26.719 he's gonna miss games this year. He's on the ir 0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:28.759 right now. We've seen tyre and miss mini games the 0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:32.640 past three seasons. This you got issues man, and then 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.520 up front the defensive tackle spot. So it's just kind 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.719 of a it's a tough pill to swallow. And this 0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.600 is where Mike Nolan's gonna earn his cash. How do 0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:44.680 you fix your linebacking corps? Here? All teams are gonna 0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.640 have issues to deal with, but right now, the Cowboys, 0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:49.880 the linebacking corps gonna be interesting, and you've got to 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.000 tight end and hayten Hurst coming in here this week, 0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:55.120 and Matt Ryan likes to isolate them. If he's putting 0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:59.799 Joe Thomas and Jalen Smith and different and coverage right now, 0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:01.560 you've got to think that that's going to be an 0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:05.160 advantage for the Falcons. Barry, well, yeah, let me and 0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:06.800 let me ask you guys both the question, because I 0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.160 want to see what you guys think about this. Now. 0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:13.239 He did say Jordan, He did say Jordan Lewis could 0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.080 have a great possibility of returning this week. So with 0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.200 the mention, like you said, of hating hrs at tight end, 0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:20.239 how he can stretch the field, how they can come 0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:22.880 out in twelve personnel or twenty one personnel and stretch 0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.080 the field with him at tight end. Do you feel 0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:28.400 as though the Cowboys can go with a Nickel package 0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.319 versus base, seeing as though Jordan Lewis will be back 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:33.120 and he's good against the run. He's not that you know, 0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:34.839 he's not a linebacker or anything like that, but he 0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:37.040 can do good against the run. Plus it'll be able 0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.600 for an extra cover person for hating Hurst. Do you 0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:42.080 believe that's the approach that the Cowboys would go going 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:49.920 against this, this Atlanta Falcons offense. I don't, just because 0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:52.920 we already have a problem stopping the run, so we 0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.160 get out there in base and throw an eleven. I 0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:57.080 think they're gonna be looking their chops. I'll tell you this. 0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:01.200 The linebackers are getting keamed up right now in the 0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:04.720 Atlanta Falcons meeting room right now. They're pointing out who's 0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:08.399 missing and what we showed a weakness, and they're out 0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:10.480 there and they're scheming up everything to do that. So 0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.960 I don't think that will be a thing. Hopefully, you know, 0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:15.759 in the perfect world, they would just bring in b 0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:17.719 Car and let him be that safety that walks down 0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:20.640 and covers and let the other safety room or figure 0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.040 out out kind of how they did in Baltimore. That's 0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:25.040 the solution I see. Especially if you get into eleven 0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:26.680 and you're playing couple one, you need somebody cover of 0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:28.400 tight end. I think Brandon caused the best person for 0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:32.319 the job. Mccrayon with you one hundred percent. I'll tell 0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:35.120 you where the pressure and who can help the defense 0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:38.480 the most. On Sunday, it is the Dallas Cowboys offense. 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:41.160 They need to control the football. The Rams held the 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:44.440 ball for thirty five minutes and change. On Sunday, the 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:47.800 Cowboys offense needs to hold the ball thirty plus minutes 0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:50.680 and keep this defense off the field. We've seen the 0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:52.920 past few seasons when the Cowboys have been able to 0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:56.799 win games, it's because the defense was being able to 0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.239 have some rest and put other teams in some third 0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:02.560 down situations winning those third downs. So a whole heavy 0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:06.080 dose of Ezekiel Elliott to me, it's going to be 0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:08.120 the key for the Cowboys to go ahead and win 0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.360 because if you can keep Atlanta off the field, you're fine, 0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:13.600 and if you force them because you're able to go 0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:15.480 out to a lead and make them play from behind. 0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.120 We know the more Maddie Ice is throwing the football, 0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:20.520 the better off it is for you. If you get 0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.920 him throwing forty fifty passes because they're behind, making them 0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.320 one dimensional, it's gonna get the Cowboys a better opportunity 0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:30.080 to win fellas. Yeah, this is true. This is very true. 0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:31.879 If you if you got Maddie Ice schooling back there, 0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.680 dropping them back for forty six attempts or fifty attempts, 0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:36.800 I think that plays right into the hands for the 0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:39.120 Dallas Cowboys. I think they'll be able to use those 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.920 pass rushers off the edge. We've seen Alden Smith coming in. 0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.440 He looks like he's ready to keep going. So hopefully 0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.200 we get to that point where we make the Atlanta 0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:50.040 Falcons one dimensional. My only worry is, man, who's gonna 0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:53.240 stick Julio Jones? You know who's gonna stick Calvin? Really? 0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:57.040 I mean, I don't know. It's a daunting task, man, 0:39:57.040 --> 0:40:01.719 but we gotta make them one dimensional in my opinion, Yeah, 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:06.040 this has been a very different ahead. This has been 0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:09.840 This has been their very different cover coverage game. For 0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.359 our defensive backs. They will be tested more than they 0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:14.640 were last week, just because Sean McVay came out with 0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.040 this side to side playing and quick passes. I don't 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:18.879 see Atlanta doing the same thing. I seen them trying 0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:21.160 to run and play action and use the ability that 0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:24.360 they have on their offensive weapons. Hint, hint, some stuff 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:26.840 that we should probably be doing with Calvin Ridley and 0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:32.319 Julio Jones. And Julio Jones will be a big part 0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.200 of the game plan for Atlanta, as Mark Cooper should 0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:38.040 be for us. So hopefully we see a battle of receivers. 0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:43.920 All right. Last night, Uh, the Clippers did what I 0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.040 didn't think they would do. I thought they would win 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.520 the game against Denver. Um. They didn't get They didn't 0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:52.719 just lose. They got embarrassed. Denver took them pride up 0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:56.040 twenty points late the fourth quarter. I just thought that 0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:59.920 was just pure, pure embarrassment. And then on social media, 0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:04.840 Damian Lillard c J McCullum just clowning Paul Paul and 0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:07.959 Pat Beverley Man, I mean playoff p and they called 0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.279 a pandemic pe. I mean it was it was that. 0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:17.600 I actually feel sorry for Kawhi Leonard Man. I feel 0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:21.000 sorry for Kawhi Leonard because if you think about this, considering, 0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:24.560 you've got Boston and Miami. Now in the East, what 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.120 if Kawhi Leonard ended up deciding to go back to 0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:31.200 Toronto running back, they might have repeated as Eastern Conference champions. 0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.960 But it's clear that the Clippers did all this talking 0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:39.800 and produced nothing but playoffs. Pet Let me tell you something. 0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.200 Kawhi Kawhi and pandemic Pete went out there and played 0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:47.960 like straight garbage last night. They looked bad. They lost, 0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:49.600 they lost. They lost four in a row. Right, they 0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:52.440 were down three months and then came back. Right. They 0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:54.759 lost three straight. They lost three straight, They lost three straight. 0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:58.200 They lost three straight. Um, yeah, it was bad and 0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:00.600 they you know, I don't know how much I believe 0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.960 in karma, but I do remember Patrick Beverley and all 0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:06.000 of them laughing and kickinging and cackling on the sideline 0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:08.680 when when day a little missed that miss those two 0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.440 free throws and lost the game. So I say he 0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:15.680 gets the last laugh. Yeah, Dan definitely got the last 0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:19.120 laugh on this one. It was definitely embarrassing man to 0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:22.720 be up three one and then get outstin Game seven 0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:26.400 by plus twenty. I mean, it's embarrassing. Now. I'm not 0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:28.800 gonna put it all on Kauhi. I felt like Hawaii 0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:30.759 carried him a lot of this way, but he fell 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:32.520 up short in the fourth quarter. I think he only 0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:35.160 scored like two points in the fourth quarter. But this 0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.440 team right here, I mean they were known for talking 0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:39.799 all that smack. I mean, like Danny said, you got 0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.120 Pat Beverley on the sidelines, who half of the time 0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.560 he wasn't even playing because he was injured, still over 0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:47.920 there just talking, just choking it up, just making fun 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:50.600 of everybody. And then they ran into a buzz all 0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:53.200 of a team in Denver. I mean, this team has 0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:55.680 already come back from three one when they were playing Utah, 0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:57.960 so they were they already had that in their veins. 0:42:57.960 --> 0:42:59.719 Like this game seven is ours. We got ice in 0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:01.839 our and they went out there and proved it. Man, 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.600 It's just I feel bad for Doc. Man. I just 0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:09.200 feel bad for Doc. I feel bad for Hey. Now, 0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.880 this this is three times Doc Rivers blown has blown 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.080 a three one lead as a head coach. Now is 0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:19.359 that I like this? It's a specialty right now, man, right, 0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:21.880 this is what he's done. Despite winning a championship with 0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:24.239 the Celtics in two thousand and they Doc Rivers is 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.560 that dude? Who's coached these guys, and they can't they 0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.000 can't close the show. I also go back to old 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:32.719 Marcus Morris of the Clippers who told Paul Millsava that 0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:35.000 they were going to go to blank home and also 0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:38.000 that mess he pulled with Luca don chich So. So 0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:40.919 to see this whole group of guys who talk so much, 0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:44.279 who in their own way really kind of disrespected the 0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:46.920 game of basketball and how how you go about your business? 0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:49.480 Did do all that talking and they've won nothing, and 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.600 to see them blow a three one lead and then 0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:55.040 in Game seven getting embarrassed. Okay, I mean they just 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:59.200 didn't lose, they got embarrassed. Denver took their heart from them. 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.800 That was something to see and we'll see what what 0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:06.520 how did they bring it back? They're in luxury cap. Heck, 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.040 they don't have a first round pick apparently until twenty 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:13.120 twenty seven. Uh, I guess there's an extension that's supposed 0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:15.680 to be coming for for a playoff Peece, So they've 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.279 got to pay him that they've got. No they really 0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:19.920 have no choice but to try and dip into the 0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:23.680 luxury tax and bring these guys back. This is this 0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:25.640 is a problem out there for the Clippers and then 0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.440 for Paul Pierce and Paul Pierce. But for Paul George 0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:30.840 to say they didn't expect to win the championship in 0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:32.840 the first year, how could you come up with that 0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.960 week excuse the press compence after the game like that. 0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:40.440 We have a total garbage go ahead the Matt. The 0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:44.160 worst part for for for La is if you zoom 0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:46.480 out and you and you really look at the at 0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:50.000 the players in the game, Denver was better than them. 0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.000 I don't think if they if they met up again 0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:56.920 in the playoffs, that they could beat beat Denver. So 0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:59.200 so they have some real stuff to deal with that 0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.920 they're not not even only the second best team in 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.319 the West. They not they might not be the third 0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:07.200 because they could have lost the Dallas. So they got 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:09.520 some real problems. They got some real problems when you 0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:14.200 think about, you know, giving up paula extension and figuring 0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:15.960 out what you're gonna do with You know, you need 0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:17.359 a big man if you're gonna be in the West, 0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:19.279 you know you need some stuff. And I don't know 0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:21.239 if they have enough to get it. So they might 0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.719 not make it back to make it to the championship, 0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:28.399 let alone the Conference finals they know one thing, they're 0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:31.480 better than not paid. Yeah, they never made it and 0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:34.120 they better not to play paid playoff here or whatever 0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:37.160 they calling him, I mean after that performance and he shrunk, 0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:39.640 I mean it was a just went down into a 0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:41.960 ball and just he was a he was a no 0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:46.680 show man. And for the whole playoffs, the entire playoffs, 0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:50.760 they have to pay Paul George. They don't. They're rosy. 0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.480 All the assets that they've given up in draft picks, 0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:57.320 they have no option but to pay Paul George. So 0:45:57.320 --> 0:46:01.279 so he's getting his money. The big, big issue is 0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:05.319 Kawhi Leonard is playing on a one year deal now 0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:07.960 because he's he has a two year opt out for himself. 0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:10.640 So if they run this back, which I expect them 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:12.120 to try to bring as many pieces as they can 0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.359 run it back next year and it doesn't happen, then 0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:17.279 Kawhi Leonard is a free agent after the season. So 0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:20.840 you about, Kawhi Leonard will be free. Jannisannaton Coopo, unless 0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:24.400 he signs a big old extension this offseason, he's going 0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:27.799 to be free. And we'll see. Because one thing we know, 0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:31.520 guys want to play with guys they like and Jimmy Butler, 0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:34.480 in my opinion, show people a whole lot that you 0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:39.319 know what, go where guys and an organization wants to 0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:41.759 win the way you want to. Because what they're doing 0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:44.400 in Miami right now, man, that's some tough stuff. The 0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:46.279 best thing he did was get out of Philly. Could 0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:47.920 have made more money in Philly, but he said, I 0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:49.880 want to go to a place where I want to 0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:51.440 win and guys want to win like me and put 0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.040 in that work. I mean, if you look at his game, 0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:57.200 Jimmy Butler, I mean he's a scrappy defender. I mean 0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:59.719 he's not flashy, but he'll get you some buckets. And 0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:02.360 that's basically what that Miami team is. It's just a 0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:05.319 bunch of scrappy dogs out there who just don't care 0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:07.680 what anybody says about him. They keep everything in house 0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:09.560 and they do what they do to try to win games. 0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:11.800 I mean, that's a perfect fit for Jimmy Butler, and 0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:15.759 he's a perfect guy to lead that team. I love 0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:19.680 how everybody you know, Crowns, Brad Stevens is this great 0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.680 coach and here's Eric Spoelstra doing his thing and people 0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:24.560 give him one don't want to give him credit for 0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:28.080 coaching to Miami Heat teams to the championship. But you 0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:30.360 know what I thought, Spoelstra and what he's done with 0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:33.200 this team has done an outstanding coaching job. All Right, 0:47:33.440 --> 0:47:36.839 we're late, all right, we can't make once again, Poor Chris, 0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:39.640 poor Chris Bean work any harder than he has trying 0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:41.720 to get this show together. But it was fun stuff. 0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.359 While we gotta thank Will McClay for popping off the 0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:47.320 Players Lounge brought to you by Hotels dot Com. Danny, 0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:49.600 you're off tomorrow, so it's just gonna be buried Church 0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:52.000 and I running things here on the Players last week, 0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:54.960 looking forward to a fun show on Thursday. Fellas. Appreciate 0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:58.440 you now, all right, appreciate it. See you on the 0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:02.800 next one. H This has been a production of Dallas 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:06.000 Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.