1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Mr garbutsch Off, tear down this wall. Either you're with 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: us or you were with the terrorists. If you've got 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: healthcare already, then you can keep your plan. If you're 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: satisfied with is not President of the United States, take 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: it to the bank. Together, we will make America great again. 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: It's what you've been waiting for all day. Buck Sexton 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: with America now joined the conversation called Buck toll free 8 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: at eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's eight four 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: four nine hundred to eight to five the future of 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: talk radio, Buck Sexton, Team Buck, Welcome to the Freedom Hunt. 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Great to have you here with me. I am back 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: in New York City, so back in the home base 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: of all things Freedom Hunt, and very much looking forward 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: to talking to you today about everything that's going on 15 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: across the country and around the world. Eight four four 16 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: nine hundred Buck. If you would like to call in 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: eight four four to eight to five. Today is one 18 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: of these days where it's much harder than I would 19 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: like it to be to focus on policy, because there 20 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: are so many fights that are underway right now about 21 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: well politics and about the narrative and the back and 22 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: forth over what was said or who believes what was 23 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: set out of context or taken out of context. And 24 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: there's just so much of a focus right now on 25 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: issues that become much more about who you believe and 26 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: who you want to believe than making the country better 27 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: for all of us, than handling the big issues and 28 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: spending the time, energy and resources of the White House 29 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: and yes, even of the media to focus on what 30 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: really matters. Now we're stuck in this back and forth 31 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: on what was said. And I wasn't there, but I 32 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: want to say this, why don't we instead of just 33 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: walking through all of the latest on this, because there's 34 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: more and more information that's just coming out about what 35 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: this person said about Trump and his comments with regard 36 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: to a phone call to the family of a fallen 37 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: Special Forces soldier, what a congresswoman said about the call, 38 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: what another gold Star family said about the call. I 39 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: just wish that there would be less of a of 40 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: a frenzy within the administrator, around the administration, and within 41 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: the administration to get into some of these battles that 42 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: I think are a these media battles that are a distraction. Um, 43 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: this is now the biggest story in the country. This 44 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: is the main story on the Drudge Report. This is 45 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: the main story on countless other major media outlets that 46 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: you could look at right now. It's the main story 47 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: on Fox news dot com. It's the main story on 48 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: CNN dot com. I was on the Fox panel on 49 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: Brett Bear Show earlier in the week and he asked 50 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: me about Trump's initial comments on the Now, this wasn't 51 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: about gold Star. This wasn't about the gold Star family 52 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: that was called by Trump on the way to the 53 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: airport to receive the remains of a fallen soldier of 54 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: of their of the husband. I know the wife was 55 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: in the vehicle, and there was also a congresswoman who 56 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: was with the near shot who's gotten into this. But 57 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: earlier in the week, Trump said something about how other 58 00:03:54,760 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: administrations have not made calls, and that's not accurate. So 59 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: they tried to walk it back a little bit, I think, 60 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: and it was Trump doing what he does, which sometimes 61 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: is such an an asset and sometimes is a liability, 62 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: which is just speaking his mind without necessarily being all 63 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: that precise about every single word that he uses. But 64 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: now this has turned into yet another political football. Now 65 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: now we see that the media is going overboard to 66 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: insist that Trump is cold, that he's unfeeling, that he 67 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: does not have sympathy and the deepest respect for the 68 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: families of those who are fallen in have fallen in battle. 69 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: And I don't buy that as a just as as 70 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: a general concept, I do not believe that there's anything 71 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: about President hump that makes me think anything other than 72 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: the fact that he has the deepest respect for the military. 73 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: I know that he has said some things here and 74 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: there that people have said, oh, how could he? But 75 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: they say there's about everything. And the Democrats for a 76 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: long time, the left for many years now, for as 77 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: long as I've been paying attention to politics, have I've 78 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: always yes, they there's this. We support the troops, and 79 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: that's a bipartisan statement that you'll get from Democrats and Republicans, 80 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: of course, but it's Democrats. You know, we support the troops, 81 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: but we don't support the war. You know, we support 82 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: the troops, but we think that sometimes the troops are 83 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: you know that the troops have done something that we're 84 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: going to now make a a bigger deal about than 85 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: we should because it's going to sell copies of The 86 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: Washington Post in New York Times. Whatever may be. If 87 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: you're looking for one political party that is more questionable 88 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: in its support of the armed forces. You can find 89 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: a lot more politicians on the Democrat side than you 90 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: can on the Republican side who have seemed to be 91 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: either over critical or wavering in their support for the troops. 92 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: But this has always been ever since that exchange with 93 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: or that's exchanged between Trump and John McCain, what was 94 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: it last summer or maybe even before then. I actually 95 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: the the gold Star Father who was speaking at the 96 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: d n C convention, and that also factored in very 97 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: much too, this narrative that Trump does not care about 98 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: the military that the media is trying very very hard 99 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: to go with. You see, I I take this all 100 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: in a in a context. And here's the context. Depending 101 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: on the month, the president of the United States, according 102 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: to the media complex, right, the Democrat media establishment, according 103 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: to what they have been reporting so are this year, 104 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: Trump is a is a and this is not an exaggeration. 105 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: And you know this, Trump is a would be fascist 106 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: along the lines of a Mussolini or a Hitler. Trump 107 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: is a Russian double agent of swords, a Manchurian candidate. 108 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: You know Trump is is that Trump is also a 109 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: an alt right, white supremacist. Trump is a oh recently 110 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: this this was in between some of the others. Trump 111 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: is a serial not just a sexual harasser, but sexual assaulter. Uh. 112 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: And now Trump doesn't care about the military. Now, there 113 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: are really only two ways to look at all of this. 114 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: And I'm stepping back from the specifics of this case 115 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: right now because or the specifics of this one incident, 116 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: which as I said as I go on air here 117 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: that this is what this is what the whole country 118 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: is now talking about. Yeah, there's a little bit on 119 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: tax reform. Yeah, there's a little bit on healthcare. And 120 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, Bannon's war with McConnell within the GOP, and 121 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: there's other stuff we will get to. I want to 122 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: talk to you about the Islamic State. But right now, 123 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: as I go on air, biggest story, most focused, most 124 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: focuses on this. He's on what Trump said to the 125 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: widow of a fallen soldier while she was on the 126 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: way to the airport to collect the body of a 127 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: fallen American hero. But stepping back from the specifics of 128 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: the world, I was not there. I'm reading conflicting reports. 129 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: The White House is saying no, they're saying it's appalling 130 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: and disgusting, um that this is not true, and you know, 131 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. Now. I'm also reading that General Kelly 132 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: was with Trump when he made the call, and so 133 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: I guess we'll get more details on this shortly. But 134 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: in the meantime, as I laid out for you, Trump 135 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: is just going back to what's happening. Of the course there. 136 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Trump is a white supremacist, he is a Trump is 137 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: a a rapist, He's a fascist, a white supremacist, a 138 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: Russian agent, A I mean, this is either the most 139 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: evil human being to have ever you know, ever even 140 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: thought of being a president in this country? Who who is? 141 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: He is? So many things that are evil according to 142 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: the media, that it's actually not humanly possible. I think, 143 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: and this is why I look at this and once 144 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: again I say to myself, they're just in a state 145 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: of of delusion and really a state of derangement about 146 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: this commander in chief. They refuse to believe that they're 147 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: going to have to live with this, and they refuse 148 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: to accept that they're going to have to live with 149 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: this reality of Trump as president for even four years. 150 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: They will not see this through. They will not sit 151 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: back and watch what happens. They being the media, will 152 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: take an active role in this along with the Democrats. 153 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna talk about collusion. You've got media Democrat party 154 00:09:54,960 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: collusion happening all the time, and they just every month 155 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: there's another narrative. Sometimes it's a return to an old narrative, 156 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: but it's another narrative about how Trump is just a 157 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: monster who is beyond the pale. So I put it 158 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 1: to you, what is more likely that they are delusional 159 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: and they are caught up in their hatred and that's 160 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: affecting their perception of everything they report about this administration, 161 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: or that Trump can be all of those things, rapist, fascist, sexist, misogynists, 162 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: Nazi supporting. I mean, you just go down this list. 163 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: I mean, come, Russia, stooge, all of this. No reasonable 164 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: rational person can really make the argument to me. I 165 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: mean they might try when no one's around, but I 166 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: would love to hear it that he's really all of 167 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: these things. And also no reasonable reasonable rational person could 168 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: in good faith. Now, people will do this, I think 169 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: for political reasons. They'll do it for the pursuit of power, 170 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: but they cannot make a good faith argument that individuals 171 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: you and me and those who are watching this all 172 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: play out, all these different versions of the oh my gosh, 173 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: Trump is so terrible, which is what this is. Oh 174 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: oh my, oh my, No not now, it's too much. Now, 175 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: it's too far. We saw this during the campaign. Everything 176 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: is too far, Everything is too much. Do I think 177 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: the president makes mistakes? Of course? Do I think he 178 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: should have said what he said earlier in the week. No, 179 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: I said so on TV as the guy's got to 180 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: stay on message little more. This is not helpful, it's 181 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: not good. It's not good for anybody. And yeah, there 182 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: is something sacred that every president, every administration, and and 183 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: every government employee, uh should feel about the conversations between 184 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: a commander in chief and those who are the families 185 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: of the fallen gold Star families. Mean, that's so. I'm 186 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: I agree, I'm for all, I'm with all that, I 187 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: get all of that. But I just can't help but 188 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: step back from this and say, so so now it's 189 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: that Trump hates the military too. We don't. We don't. Really, 190 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: we're not expected to believe this, right, I guess we are. 191 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: I can't tell if it's more of a catharsis for 192 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: these media outlets that are running with it. It's just 193 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: that they can't help themselves now and they have to 194 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: just blurt it out, almost like somebody. Some of these 195 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: major newsrooms, it feels like they have to just take 196 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: a paper bag and scream all these anti Trump slurs 197 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: and expletives into it just to get it out of 198 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: their system. But they're gonna run with this and run 199 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: with this, and the lack of discipline, the lack of 200 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: messaging discipline from the White House, doesn't make it any 201 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: easier for anybuddy. You know, this is just this is 202 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: the reality right now. So I mean, I don't know, 203 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm wondering what you think about this, um, but we 204 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: have a just as in this reminded me of it 205 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: because we're talking about issues that touch on being on 206 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: veterans and those who served. We have Jason Delgado joining 207 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: us later who's a Marine scout sniper and fantastic interview 208 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: that I think you'll really really want to hear coming 209 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: up later on in the show. And I'm curious for 210 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: those those of you who And then I'm always humbled 211 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: and deeply grateful for the fact that I have so 212 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: many people listen to the show who either are serving 213 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: or did serve. And so when I ask, I can 214 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: get people to call in and say, what do you 215 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: think about this? What do you make of this? I 216 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: find it hard to believe that Trump said what he 217 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: is accused of saying here by the media. I find 218 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: it hard to believe. I just it doesn't add up 219 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: to me. And you know, when you've got so many 220 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: different narratives running that are exaggerated, I'm not saying Trump 221 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: maybe didn't say some of the words they're reporting, but 222 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: in the way that it's being portrayed, I just don't 223 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: buy it because I under the Trump mentality. And you know, 224 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: maybe it's because a guy I feel like I know 225 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: him a little bit, because he's like me. He's a 226 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: New Yorker and he has a certain certain way about 227 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: him that I at least I'm not saying I'm similar, 228 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: but I'm saying I have an understanding of an appreciation 229 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: for it. He's a New York guy. We we we 230 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: love cops, we love military, we love firefighters in this city. 231 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just that's in me, and I know 232 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: across the country that's too true as well. But this 233 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: is the place where you know, do I think Trump 234 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: maybe sometimes says some things that are undisciplined about the 235 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: economic numbers or something. Yeah. Sure, But do I think 236 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: he would disrespect the military? No way, I just don't. 237 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: I don't buy it. So, given how many times the 238 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: media has lied, and given how desperate they are to 239 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: prove that Trump is literally the worst person in the 240 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: history of the universe, I'm I'm taking anything that I 241 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: see right now with with a grain of salt. Uh. 242 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: And I know there's a lot more coming in. But 243 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: those of you who served, am I missing something? Do 244 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: you think I think there is a problem here that 245 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not highlighting. I want to hear from you. 246 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: Eight four four buck, eight four four nine to eight 247 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: to five. We're gonna talk about the Russia revelations, which 248 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: I mentioned to you yesterday. We'll get into that. Also, 249 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: a story about a an illegal immigrant teenager and a 250 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: federal judge weighing in on whether the illegal immigrant teenager should, 251 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: while in US custody, be given an abortion. This is 252 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: story that raises some real questions about this country, or 253 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: at least the people in this country to take certain positions. 254 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: I have proof to if this man is a sick man, 255 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: he's cohearted, and he feels no pity or sympathy for anyone. 256 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: This is a grieving widow, a grieving widow who is 257 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: six months pregnant. This is a young woman. She's only 258 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: twenty four years old. She weighs maybe a hundred and 259 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: ten pounds, and she has two other kids, two years 260 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: old and six years old. And when she actually hung 261 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: up the phone, she looked at me and said, he 262 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: didn't even know his name. Now that's the worst part. 263 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: A Representative Frederica Wilson, referring to President Trump's conversation with 264 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: the widow of one of the fallen Special Forces soldiers 265 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: who are killed in action in n jare recently, Trump 266 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: says that that's just not true. I didn't say what 267 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: that congresswoman said. Didn't say it at all. She knows 268 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: and she now is not saying it. I did not 269 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: say what she said, and I'd like her to make 270 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: the statement again because I did not say what she said. 271 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: Had a very nice conversation with the woman with the 272 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: wife who has sounded like a lovely woman. Did not 273 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: say what the congresswoman said. And most people aren't too 274 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: surprised to hear that. Uh, let's let her make her 275 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: statement again and then you'll find out. Okay, let her 276 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: make her statement again, and then you'll find out. So 277 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: the President just flatly denies this, this allegation from Congresswoman Wilson. 278 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: And you also had Sarah Huckabee Sanders talking about the 279 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: proof that Trump mentioned. Trump says he can prove it. 280 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 1: I think he meant most likely based on the recent 281 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: most recent reports as I go on air here that 282 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: General Kelly was with him when the call was made. 283 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: But here's what Huckaby Sanders said. It's President's tweet this morning. 284 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: We can what proof does President Trump have when he 285 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: says Congresswoman Wilson is not telling the truths? Are their 286 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: recordings of his phone call with Mesia Johnson. No, but 287 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: there were several people in the room from the administration 288 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: that we're on the call, including the Chief of Staff, 289 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: General John Kelly. So maybe they're not gonna ask General Kelly. 290 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: But you know General Kelly, who's he's a he's a 291 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: gold star dad, And you know that's been brought into 292 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: all these discussions now about you know, everyone, what is this? 293 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: What do the Democrats think is going to be accomplished 294 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 1: by this reporting stream? I also see here on the 295 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: New York Post that there's a story about the grieving 296 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: dad of of an Army corporal killed in Afghanistan said 297 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: that President Trump promised to send him a personal check 298 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: for twenty five dollars but didn't follow through until Wednesday. Okay, 299 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: well so, um Chris Baldred's, the father of two year 300 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: old Army corporal Billy Dylan Baldridge, told the Washington Post 301 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: Trump called him at his home in North Carolina weeks 302 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: after his son and two soldiers were gunned down by 303 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: Afghan police. He said, I'm gonna write you a check 304 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: out of my personal account. And I was just floored 305 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: and okay, So the check was mailed on Wednesday. Um, 306 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: so Trump was was late and saying this, I mean 307 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: this is this is now that the whole country is 308 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: focused on how the president is responding to this? Uh, 309 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: all these different allegations. Who's telling the truth? We gotta 310 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: relying here, lit, So I want to go to a 311 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: bunch of calls. He's holding the line for America. Buck 312 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: Sexton is back all right, Jesse in Michigan. Welcome to 313 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. Show my friend, what's up? Jesse? Hey, how 314 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: you doing? I'm doing really good. Good to be on 315 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: your show. I'm not sure what I can add that, 316 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, up to your standards, but I did want 317 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 1: to say that, you know, this is the same narrative 318 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: that the Democrats have always been pushing um all along 319 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: across the board. It's spread the lives as fast as 320 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: possible and wait for the truth to catch up. I mean, 321 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: it's been going on for years, so you just think 322 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: they're lying about this. Well, I don't necessarily think they're lying, 323 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: but they're not coming out and saying, um, you know, 324 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: the Muslims or whoever he was fighting and at war 325 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: are the ones that are responsible ultimately for his death. 326 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: They're more pointing the finger out what happened the words 327 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: instead of who's actually the culprit behind what actually happened. Well, 328 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: they're obviously trying to score political points here, and they 329 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: don't care what they you know, the Democrats don't care 330 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: who they bring into this or what they use as leverage. 331 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: Anything that can be used as leverage against Trump, the 332 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: Democrats will use. There's nothing that is sacrosanct, there's nothing 333 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: that is beyond the polluting effects of Democrat politicization. I 334 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: think that was a very well way to put that. 335 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: Thank you, Jesse, I do what I can. Thank you 336 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: very much for Thank you for calling in. Jerry in Florida. 337 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: Good to have you, Jerry. What's up, Hey Buck, I'm Jerry. 338 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm our retired Air Force colonel fifteen fighter pilot. I'm 339 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: driving from work and I was so upset head to 340 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: pull over. I have gone to the services of so 341 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: many of my women where those exact words have been said. 342 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: He knew what he signed up for. Not only did 343 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: he signed up for that, but his whole family signed 344 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: up for that. We signed up that we were willing 345 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: to give our lives for our country, and for somebody 346 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: to make a political issue out of that is totally disgraceful. 347 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm so upset. I just I don't know what else 348 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: to say. Well, I think Jerry, you've said all that 349 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: needs to be said on this issue, because you're telling 350 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: me that you think there's nothing wrong with those words. 351 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: You serve your country. You've heard many others who serve 352 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: their country say he knew or she knew what, you know, 353 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: what they were signing up for, and no that it's 354 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: it's not that there's nothing wrong with those words. If 355 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: I had died while I was serving the Air Force, 356 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: I would want those words spoken at my at my funeral, 357 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: because I knew what I was giving up, what I 358 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: was signing up for. I knew I was dedicating to 359 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: my my life, to my country. I was willing to 360 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: give my life my country. My family made so many sacrifices. 361 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: We knew what we signed up for that those are 362 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: words of honor, not disgrace. Totally agree with you, Jerry, 363 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: Totally agree with you. So thank you for your service, sir, 364 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: and thank you very much for your call. Patsy in 365 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: North Carolina on w p T I Hey Patsy, Hi there, Buck, 366 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: how are you. I'm good, thank you for your call. 367 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: Thank you, And I just wanted to applaud to what 368 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: Gary just said. Um, the whole point of my call 369 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: was to say that both of my brother served over 370 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: twenty years in the Air Force. My son also served 371 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: served in the Army is out now and the use 372 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: of those words, like Gary said, that is such honor. 373 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: And if President Trump did say that, I'm not saying 374 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: he did or he didn't, but the fact that he 375 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: would use him and then tell her how he felt 376 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: about that and how he was honored to have people 377 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: like that, you know, in our armed services. That would 378 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: be the only way that I could think that he 379 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: would say something like that. Yeah, I just look at 380 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: the situation and and like I was saying before, I 381 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: I refused to I refuse to believe that, based on 382 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: what I've been told, the President would say anything that 383 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: was disrespectful to the family of to the widow of 384 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: a slain soldier. I just I just don't There's there's 385 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: no explanation for that. That Trump doesn't feel that way, right, 386 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Trump isn't disrespectful towards military and towards the 387 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: families of those who are serving, So why would he 388 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: in a phone call like that. It just it just 389 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: doesn't add up, you know. Yeah, it is just totally 390 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: taken out of context. Like I said, if he did 391 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: say it and he said it that way, that is 392 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: nothing but honorable. And um, I just there is way 393 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: more to this than what we're hearing. And it's just inciting. Patsy, 394 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: thank you so much, and Shields, I appreciate you calling in. 395 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: Let me just here's my my gut instinct on this one. 396 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: Congresswoman Frederica Wilson is somebody who in the past has said, 397 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: for example, that the you know, the party is the 398 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: is the real enemy. That was some years ago. Uh 399 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: so she's she's someone who is a very hard line 400 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: political player, very partisan. She is with this gold star, 401 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 1: cold star widow, and I believe that she is the 402 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: one meaning Congresswoman Wilson. I will check into this in 403 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: the break to make sure that I'm not speaking out 404 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: of turn here live radio three hours every day. You know, 405 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: not everything I say is gonna be a pent, but 406 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: I always make sure I correct it if it's not. 407 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: But I believe that Wilson was the first one to 408 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: come out and say that there was something disrespectful here, 409 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: and that may have Look, you're dealing with somebody who's 410 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: just lost her or in the in in terms of 411 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: the widow, somebody who just lost her husband. She's got children, 412 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: And I believe I saw this right when I came 413 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: into the office, that the go me campaign for the 414 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: children for their college fund and to take care of 415 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: them is is is over four hundred and thirty or 416 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty thousand dollar or something like that already. 417 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: So the American people, I mean, this is in a 418 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: side but the American people are an incredibly generous and 419 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: incredibly generous people and and love our military, So no 420 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: surprises there, That's exactly what we would expect. But with 421 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: this congresswoman by saying that Trump was disrespectful, did she 422 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: then influence because I know that that the widow as 423 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: well of Sergeant Johnson. The widow has also said that 424 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,239 Speaker 1: there was something she didn't like what Trump said her, 425 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: that there was it was disrespect I believe is the 426 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: specific Misha Johnson is the is the name of the 427 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: widow of Sergeant Lea David Johnson, and she says that 428 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: she felt there was something disrespectful with Trump or in 429 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: his tone. Now, of course, look, she's she's a she's 430 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: a gold star widow. She's completely entitled to more than 431 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: just her opinion. She's entitled a lot of difference in 432 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: respect right now and going forward. But that also doesn't 433 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: mean that we can't stop from and and think, well, 434 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: was she influenced at least by this congresswoman who's with her, 435 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: who goes out and says this and then creates a 436 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: very high pressure situation whereby especially if you know, if 437 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: we're talking about um, somebody who in the with this congresswoman, 438 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: for example, who's clearly very anti Trump. She's now put 439 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: a private citizen in the center of this whole storm, 440 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of pressure there. There's a lot 441 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: of pressure. So is that possible. I just think that's 442 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: a um, that's a that's a situation that people need 443 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: to keep in mind. Here that possibility. We have a 444 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: pat On right now from Alabama who is a gold 445 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: star mom. Pat, thank you so much for calling in. Yes, hey, 446 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: how are you doing fine? How are you? I'm good? 447 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your falling before, But this 448 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: time it's serious, and I want to say that, uh, 449 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: my son didn't know what he was doing. Both my 450 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: sons knew what you know, what they're doing. And in fact, 451 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: David was killed in Vacuba in two thousand five, and Brian, 452 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: his younger Brotherhoo was four years younger, was in Bagdad 453 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: at the time and he was uh, David's escort home. 454 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: So you completely agree with this, with the sentiments of 455 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: and you are you are a gold star mom, as 456 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: as as I know are you just told our producers 457 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: here you agree with the sentiment that they knew what 458 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: they were or to say he knew or or or 459 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: she knew, you know, depending on the circumstances. Depend To 460 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: say that someone knew what they were signing up for 461 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: with the military is to honor the fact that they 462 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: were doing get understanding the risks and wanting to serve 463 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: their country anyway, they were committed. Both my sides, No, 464 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: they were doing and they were two years old. And 465 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: my younger son exactly is the West Point grad and 466 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: uh so, yeah soldier, no soldier or say hello marine 467 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: or Air Force. Uh would would disagree with what was said. 468 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: Trust me. Well, Pat, thank you for your family's service 469 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: and your family's sacrifice, and also thank you very much 470 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: for shedding some very important light on this conversation right now. 471 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, Pat. Brent in A Brent in New Mexico 472 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: on the I heart app Hey Brent, Hey buck, she'll tie, 473 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: She'll tie. Hey man. It's hard to follow up somebody 474 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: like Pat. My respect to her, but you pretty much 475 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: hit it on the head. I called in and then 476 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: you started talking about I found it odd when I 477 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: was reading the was this morning and she was this 478 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: congressman was talking about she'd heard it on speaker phone 479 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: and she was with this woman on the way, and 480 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: that whole thing struck me as odd, like they were 481 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: just like she was kind of coach. I mean, twenty 482 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: four year old girl in a I can't imagine, but 483 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it is odd to me. It's the first 484 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: thing I noticed when I read about her. Next right, 485 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: and she she gets immediately caught in the middle of this. 486 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: My understanding is the congresswoman is the one who created 487 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: this whole of you know, controversy, and she, the conngresswoman, 488 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: is as anti Trump and Connressoman hates Trump, right, so 489 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: we all know that. And she's obviously has some kind 490 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: of relationship with this gold Star widow with with Mrs Johnson, 491 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: and it just seems to me, like, you know, and 492 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: now this has been turned into something and it's it's 493 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: hard for some people even who just want to have 494 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: some some you know, time to reflect and and be 495 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: allowed dignity and the ability to heal. I mean, for 496 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: a woman to be pulled into this seems to be 497 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: really unfair. And I think that the person who pulled 498 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: her into it is Congresswoman Wilson. So that's that's what 499 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: I see, But I not there. I'm just basing it 500 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: on the reports, like all the rest of us are. 501 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree, mom, but I agree with now. All right, man, 502 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: thank you very much Brent for calling in. Um. All right, 503 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: let's I'm gonna get into some other topics here because 504 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what what more there is really to 505 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: add now other than you've got a war of words 506 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: between administration, a congresswoman, and the media. There's a lot 507 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: of of I said this, No, I didn't say this. Uh, 508 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: this is you know, one more thing on this. I like, 509 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm somebody who's like I like to think that I'm 510 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: pretty good at noticing, um, a pattern. I like to 511 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: think that, um, I'm pretty good at picking out when 512 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: there's a a repetition of a theme or a repetition 513 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: that is a theme. And with this, you see what 514 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: was it royal? A week or two ago? What was 515 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: the big story? Someone said, according to someone that Rex 516 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: Tillerson called the president of moron and that was a 517 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: big thing for a few days. And now here it's 518 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: someone or in this case, we know who it is. 519 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: The representative. Wilson says that Trump was disrespectful, didn't know 520 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: the fallen soldier's name, and also said he knew what 521 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: he signed up for and and is taking that to 522 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: be negative very next to taking it to be disrespectful. 523 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: I agree with the sentiments of those who have called 524 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: in and said that he knew what he signed up 525 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: for in the context of the discussion was meant, assuming 526 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: it was said was meant to be respectful. And the 527 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: fact that this is now turning into a major media 528 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: story and everyone's running around trying to figure out, you know, 529 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: how to turn this into clicks and views and political 530 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: points and everything else. It's just it's just disconcerting. You'd 531 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: think that this is one of the few areas where 532 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: we could just truly and I know people say this, 533 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: and you know people, let's say this about the NFL. 534 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: THEO said, you know, can't we put politics aside when 535 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: it comes to the families of fallen soldiers. It really 536 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: would be nice if we could just put politics aside 537 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: and just all show respect and deference and support. But instead, 538 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: here we are being forced to look at this through 539 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: this distorted prism of the political ins and out. So 540 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: it's just not it's just not the way it should 541 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: be done, all right. I would we got Russia stuff 542 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: to talk about. We've got some policy things. I've got 543 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: that story about the illegal immigrant girl who is a 544 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: is a teenager I believe was once to have an abortion. 545 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: That's in federal court right now. Our federal judge just 546 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: looked at it. And you'll be very interested, I think, 547 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: to hear about how the judge responded to the government's 548 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: position on it. And then we've got some more Trump 549 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: on the economic issues, which we will talk about, um, 550 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: the tax plan, so much to discuss beyond this issue 551 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: that I can see is is dominating the dominating the 552 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: evening news. We've said all along that we want something 553 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: that doesn't just build out the insurance companies but actually 554 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: provides relief for all Americans. Uh, and this bill doesn't 555 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: address that fact. So we want to make sure that 556 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: that's taken care of. We think that this is the step, 557 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: a good step in the right direction. Uh. This President 558 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: certainly supports Republicans and Democrats coming to get to work together, 559 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: but it's not a full approach, and we need something 560 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: to go a little bit further to get onto your particulately, 561 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: specifically where the White House is concerned about. So the 562 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: things that the President sure some of the things that 563 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: the President has stated before he wants to lower premiums. 564 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: He wants to provide greater flexibility. He wants to drive competition. 565 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: He likes the idea of block rants to states those 566 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: There are a lot of the ideas that he'd like 567 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: to see in a healthcare plan. That's the update on 568 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: our discussion yesterday that I had to do with where 569 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: the administration is right now, where the White House is 570 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: on what seems to be a bailout of the insurance 571 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: companies right giving them. I'm not a bail out of 572 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: the center. They're all going to a banker, but I 573 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: mean giving them cash to shore up the exchanges. This 574 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: was the bipartisan fix, so to speak, that the Senate 575 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: had come up with. It's certainly not repeal and replaced. 576 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: It's not even changing anything about Obamacare. In fact, it's 577 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: keeping Obamacare alive. It's just doing it through a legitimate 578 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: legislative process instead of doing it via executive FIAD. But 579 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: still not so not not great, not great. Trump also 580 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: spoke on this today and gave a little more detail here. Well, 581 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see the bipartisan. We're going to see 582 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: the bip artisan and Lamar Alexander's working on it very hard. 583 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: From our set, and if something can happen, that's fine, 584 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: but I won't do anything to enrich the insurance companies 585 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: because right now, the insurance companies are being enriched. They've 586 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: been enriched by Obamacare like nothing anybody's ever seen before. 587 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: So he's saying he's not going to make the insurance 588 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: companies Richard, Okay, So I guess that's that. That's a 589 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: good sound bite. I don't really know what it means 590 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: in terms of our healthcare reform, because if he's going 591 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: to keep the money flowing to the exchanges, that means 592 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: insurance companies who are still getting to operate within the 593 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: Obamacare framework, which has done very well for insurance companies. 594 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: That has not been difficult for insurers under Obamacare. And 595 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: we've been promised a lot and very little has been delivered. 596 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: It is still early. I well understand that. And there 597 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: was also some discussion today with the President at the 598 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: Senate Finance many talking about his tax plan. I wanted 599 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: to get into that as well. Here's some of the 600 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: highlights from our framework. We are doubling the amount of 601 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: income that is taxed at the zero bracket. In other words, 602 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: of zero bracket. Many people will be able to take 603 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: advantage of that bracket that are not in that bracket. 604 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: We're increasing the child tax credit. We will end the 605 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: estate tax, sometimes referred to as the death tax. We 606 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: will cut the business tax rate from the highest in 607 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: the developed world at to no more than According to 608 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: the Council of Economic Advisers, reducing the corporate tax rate 609 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: from thirty five would increase average household income by four 610 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year. So each household on average, we 611 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: take in four thousand dollars and they'll go out and 612 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: they'll spend that money, or that will be great for 613 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: the economy. We're cutting taxes on small businesses to the 614 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: lowest rate in more than eighty years. We're gonna have 615 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: to tackle this tax plan a little more, maybe in 616 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: the next and the next hour, because I think some 617 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: of the numbers are a little fuzzy. I like the ideas, 618 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: but the numbers are a little fuzzy. He's back with 619 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: you now, because when it comes to the fight for truth, 620 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: the fuck never stops. Welcome back team eight four or 621 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: four to eight to five, eight four four nine hundred buck. 622 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: If you would like to call in love to hear 623 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: from you as always, UM, we've got some lines lot. 624 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: We can take some more calls if you want to 625 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: give us a ring. I wanted to finish some thoughts 626 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: on they were just minor forward motion on some of 627 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: the major policy issues, which I'd much rather talk to 628 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: you about. You know, I will say there are a 629 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: couple of ways that I try to take a different 630 00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 1: approach from most of the not just talk radio shows 631 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: out there, but just conservative media in general. One of 632 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: them is I don't find every aspect of the political 633 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: horse race. You know, what's the latest senator saying about 634 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: this or what's this? I don't find that as as fascinating. 635 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: I don't find the personalities within the Congress quite so fascinating. 636 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: I care much more about what's happening in the country. 637 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: So instead of oh, did you hear that, you know, 638 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: Senator so and so said this about something, I'd much 639 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: rather talk about what's going on in the country. You know, 640 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: what's happening in healthcare markets, what's going on with the 641 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 1: opioid epidemic, what's happening with chronic pain, what's the reality 642 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 1: of you know, any role of the NFL in American 643 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: life as a unifying force or a dividing force. Now whatever, right, 644 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking to you about what's happening instead of just 645 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:54,439 Speaker 1: the inside the Beltway nonsense. Um, And that's that means 646 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: that I'd rather talk about policy issues. I'd rather talk 647 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: about the national security events that are happening as well 648 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: and all that. Anyway, So there's not a lot that 649 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: I could say that's new about the healthcare state of 650 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: play as it were, other than Trump seems today to 651 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: be less clear on whether he likes this bipartisan solution 652 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 1: or not. And then which, look, I understand there's still 653 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: a lot that needs to be hammered out and it's 654 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: going to take some time. And this is just not 655 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: going to be a quick fix on taxes though, this 656 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: is where and I'm not the only one who's been 657 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: out there saying this, and I get that, or or 658 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: I will have said this now. I think I've said 659 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: this before. I've certainly asked the question before on this 660 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: and other shows. The notion that the tax plan, even 661 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: assuming that Trump got it through as is or as offered, 662 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,720 Speaker 1: that it would mean four thousand dollars more on average 663 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: in your pocket, I don't know about that. You will 664 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: notice that the change in actual rates. In actual tax 665 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: rates is a minimal part of the discussion for people 666 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: that are just used to paying federal income tax. Doubling 667 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: the amount of untaxed income. I don't know how much 668 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: that's going to benefit folks, But keep in mind that 669 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: already you have half the country doesn't pay any taxes, 670 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: any federal income tax whatsoever. So getting you instead of 671 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: from zero to ten, zero twenty no taxes, Okay, I'd 672 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: like to see what they think the math will be 673 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: then for individuals that will be beneficial and how beneficial 674 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: it will be. The main thrust of it is that 675 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: they will cut the corporate tax rate, and this is 676 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: gonna help you. If corporations have more cash on the 677 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: balance sheet, it will help you. If corporations are able 678 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: to bring back overseas assets overseas cash, then there will 679 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: be a flourish of hiring and investment, and and that 680 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: will be better for all of us. I mean, that's 681 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: the way that as I understand it, at least they're 682 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: talking about this tax planet and how it's going to 683 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: benefit individual Americans. I am not as confident that that 684 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: will be a widely and I know the one and 685 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 1: only Mr Limbaugh himself address this issue earlier in the week. 686 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: But I've been thinking this for a long time. I 687 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: think I've said it before on this show. Cutting a 688 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: corporate tax rate sounds good, and I think it will 689 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: be helpful, but I have some misgivings. I have some 690 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: hesitation about that being the at the vanguard of what 691 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be a populist, pro earning class political revolution. Yeah, 692 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: that's right, we're gonna take care of the middle class. 693 00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 1: We're gonna cut the corporate tax rate. Okay, maybe that's 694 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: maybe that's all to the good, but why not? Why 695 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: can the corporate rate go? And I'm just look, I'm 696 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: asking the questions. Right, It's easy is you know Trump 697 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: is perfect and amazing, and you know I leave that 698 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: to others. I don't. I don't. I just I just 699 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: can't play the Everything Trump does is a great game, 700 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: it's just not what I do. I don't. I don't 701 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: have it in me. I think a lot of what 702 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: he does is good and I support him. But and 703 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: this isn't just Trump. Keep hi mind, He's working with 704 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: the Congress on this, So this isn't even like he's 705 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: getting a uh, he's getting a carte blanche to do 706 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 1: whatever he wants. He's gonna have to work this issue 707 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: through the Congress. And let's just think about this. Why 708 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: is it? Why is it that four thousand dollars is 709 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: gonna end up in your pocket? If the corporate rate 710 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: goes from thirty five to they said right now or thirty, 711 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: it was gonna be fifteen. Now they've gone up at twenty. 712 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: But you know, the highest individual rate, and the individual 713 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: rate for a lot of people is still gonna be 714 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: way above and not for rich people. And that's that's 715 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: where the Democrats are always gonna be lying, Oh, it's 716 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: for rich people, it's for the rich. No, no, no, 717 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: for a whole lot of folks. The rate is, the 718 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: individual rates gonna be high, and that's where the real squeezes. 719 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 1: That's where the tax code is such a joke. It's 720 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: so unfair, it's punitive. It's on the individual rates. And 721 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: I I know that they're talking about simplification, and this 722 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: is where if I had somebody here's all but Trump, 723 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: you know they're gonna say there's gonna be what three 724 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: rates instead of five? Okay, but who falls into the three? 725 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 1: Who falls into what rate? If you're making between fifty 726 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: and two fifty thousand dollars a year, fifty and two 727 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. Here, let's say, are are you going 728 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: to be affected by this tax cut in a really 729 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: positive way? From what I'm seeing? Probably not? And I'm 730 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: gonna guess that of the folks listening, there's there's a 731 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: lot of you that have a house I mean, look, 732 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: the average American household income is fifty grand roughly. It's 733 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: in the thing might be in the it's either like 734 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,760 Speaker 1: forty seven or fifty three, it's around there. It's roughly 735 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: fifty dollars. I think it's um how much is this 736 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 1: tax plan really going to benefit you? You know, if 737 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: your household income is a little a little less, a 738 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: little more. Maybe you know, you've got two people working, 739 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 1: you're making a household income up a hundred, a hundred 740 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: and fifty, and you're doing well. But a lot of 741 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: places across the country, the tax rate that you have 742 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: to deal with if you're making a hundred fifty grand, 743 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: it's just too much. So why can't we touch on that? 744 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: Why isn't there more of a push on not just 745 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,439 Speaker 1: the individual rates and concept, but what the specifics are. 746 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you that there's a problem here because 747 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: the revenue, which is a nice way of saying the 748 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: money the government takes from you, does not it actually 749 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: is in people that are earning fifto fifty you know 750 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: that that that's where they have a lot. That's when 751 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: you add in all the different taxes and all the 752 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: different consumption taxes and everything else. I mean, that's where 753 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: because that's where the vast majority of the you know, 754 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: American people fall. And once you if you drop it 755 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: down a little bit and up in a little bit, 756 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, let's say it's k year to two fifty k. 757 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's like a vast majority of us. Right, 758 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 1: So what are we paying a corporate rate? Okay, they 759 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: said that corporate is gonna be better. I need someone 760 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 1: to explain why is it that the corporation that now 761 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 1: is going to have a lower tax rate isn't just 762 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 1: gonna pay its executives more. You know, we did go 763 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 1: through this whole situation where the government back in the 764 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: financial crisis made all of these banks. Some of them 765 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: needed it, some of them didn't. But there was a 766 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: reason behind the why they made them all take it, 767 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: which is that they didn't want people to to discrimine, 768 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: to think that, you know, one bank was weak and 769 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: one was strong because it took the money. So they 770 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: wanted all all of them have to take this money 771 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: and then they were gonna loan it out right. But 772 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 1: actually a lot of banks didn't really lean it out 773 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: the way they were suppos do, and you know what 774 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: they were that that was kind of their right. So 775 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: are we really so sure that people are gonna get 776 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: paid more? I'm just skeptical. I'm not saying no. I'm 777 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: not saying, you know, this is wonky stuff and you 778 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: get people out with all the spreadsheets and Excel and everything. 779 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: But I am skeptical because to me, why, you know, 780 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: if we're gonna really reform the tax code instead of 781 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: just cut some taxes here and there, why not a 782 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: flat tax? Why are we not even talking about it? 783 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 1: Five rates to three rates? Okay? But or was it 784 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 1: is it's seven rates to five rates or five rates 785 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: to three rates? I forget now, Oh Amy's on. Amy's 786 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: on a call right now with with one of you. 787 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: So um, it's just not as uh as the first 788 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: major legislative achievement of what is a Trumpian and supposed 789 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: to be populist political movement that is against the establishment. 790 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: Cutting corporations taxes just doesn't sit quite right with me 791 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 1: as that this is the first place we're going, not 792 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: getting a wall, not doing anything important or dramatic on immigration, 793 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: and continuing a pretty well continuing with the most of 794 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,320 Speaker 1: the look of the trade deals, where we haven't anything 795 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 1: really changed there. The first place we get real movement 796 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 1: from the administration, or not just from the illistration, pardon me, 797 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: from the Republican Party, it looks like something's gonna get done. 798 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 1: It's on the corporate tax rate. Guys. I'm I'm just 799 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: I'm just keeping it real here, That's what I do. 800 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 1: I'm not loving this. I think I think that there's 801 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: an issue here. I think the donor. I think the 802 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: donor class still has a lot more influence and and 803 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,720 Speaker 1: a lot more leverage than any of us want to believe, 804 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: because you know, the donor class is gonna love it. 805 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: If you are a senior officer of a corporation, you're 806 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot more profits now to work with. 807 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,280 Speaker 1: That is great for you and great for those who 808 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 1: sit in the compensation committee, which exists at a lot 809 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: of companies, right, they just decide what a lot of 810 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: people get paid. A lot of its bonus based and 811 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 1: everything else. So you know, look, I'm just putting it 812 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: out there. I'm gonna come back. We'll talk about the 813 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: testimony today in front of the Jeff Sessions thrown down 814 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 1: with what's his name, Stuart, I mean Al franken Um, 815 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: and then we'll get into We've got Jason Delgado, who's 816 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 1: a mar Sock Marine sniper, is going to call and 817 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: talk to us about his book, which is fantastic. I've 818 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,800 Speaker 1: been waiting to have him on for a long time. Actually, 819 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you all about his book when he comes 820 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: to join us. And then, oh, Third Hour, I should know, 821 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 1: we will do kind of a special history deep dive. 822 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: For those of you who like it, get excited because 823 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: Third Hour is gonna be a bit of a history 824 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: deep dive. For those of you who don't, just just 825 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: give it a shot, give it, give it another chance, 826 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: and if and if after this time around you're like, 827 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: you know what buck Live Radio deep dive, I don't know, 828 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, on History, I don't know. Nat sick, Yeah, 829 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,959 Speaker 1: and the National Security deep drives. I'm pleased to say 830 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 1: Team Buck is on board for those across the board. 831 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,399 Speaker 1: From what I from what I have gathered in my years, 832 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 1: are doing radio um history is maybe a little more 833 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: of a of an acquired taste. But we're gonna go there. 834 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: May we've be necessarily is fantastic in the third hours, 835 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,959 Speaker 1: I get ready for that. All right, Brian and North 836 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,959 Speaker 1: Carolina calling w p T I. How you doing, hey, Buck, 837 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: thanks for taking the call. Doing great? I hope you are. 838 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. Hey. Your last segment, you were talking about 839 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: basically trickle down economics. And let's just assume that, uh 840 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: you make strong six figures a year and maybe I 841 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: make thirty to fifty k. You know, just a regular 842 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 1: work and stiff. If you're toilet or your shower goes out. 843 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: How many plumbers does that guy making three five times 844 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: what I make? They hire one plumber? So in a 845 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:05,280 Speaker 1: day to day how we interact and hire people, trickle 846 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: down doesn't really seem to work. Therefore, core cutting corporate taxes. 847 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: Who benefits? It's the investors, right, it's the CEOs, the 848 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 1: board members, it's the the one three. It doesn't trickle down. 849 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: And uh so I just dissent with you on that. Well, 850 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: you just said with me, I think that's kind of 851 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: what I was saying. Remember I was talking too, how 852 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm skeptical that this is going to help people the 853 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: way that they say it is. Oh well, didn't we 854 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,880 Speaker 1: agree it absolutely won't. You know, when a guy makes 855 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 1: two to three million dollars the CEO, where does he 856 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: put that money? He doesn't spend it all? You know, 857 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: when someone makes theft k a year, they spend it 858 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: on their rent, on their kids college, on their health care. 859 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: It goes back into and circulates through the economy. Um, 860 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: the richer someone is. And that's fine to be rich. 861 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: Ones harping on that, Uh, it gets invested, it's in savings, 862 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 1: it's in uh Wall Street, and it doesn't trickle down, right. Well, 863 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 1: I I just think about how, you know, Let's say 864 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 1: I was if I work at a company and I 865 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: am part of a bonus pool situation, and now the 866 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:22,280 Speaker 1: company has, uh, you know, has ten percent better earnings 867 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: than we had we had to expected because you know, 868 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 1: because of the tax cut. Right. I mean, we're just 869 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: we're fast forwarding through some things assuming this gets passed 870 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 1: and all but a lot of the folks that I mean, 871 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: I know how this works at some companies. Uh, A 872 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 1: lot of the folks out there will get more money, right, 873 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean, who are I'm gonna say a lot of 874 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: folks people that are worked for corporations, they've got a 875 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,240 Speaker 1: bigger bonus. But you know, if I got a check 876 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 1: that was of my salary as a bonus because my 877 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: company had more money, I'm not then that's where the 878 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: money goes, right. So I mean some people have more money, 879 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: but a lot of people won't from what I see. 880 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: So I'm just not being and I'm not seeing it 881 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: as clearly as some others are that this is going 882 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 1: to have these wide ranging impact. I understand. Right, we 883 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: get somebody on you know the you get these like 884 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: people that are almost like these um free market leis 885 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,439 Speaker 1: a fair evangelists too. It's always perfect, right, there's never 886 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: any downside of this stuff. It's always amazing. It just 887 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 1: makes everything better. Um. But I I wonder, um, I 888 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: wonder if that's really the case, because this just doesn't 889 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 1: seem it doesn't add up to me. You know, it 890 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: doesn't add up. But you know, I'm not an accountant, 891 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: what can I tell you? And I'm not I'm not 892 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 1: a tax expert either. I just know that can we 893 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: agree on one thing, Brian, that the populist that the 894 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 1: populist revolution, so to speak of Trump is um, it's 895 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: first it's first stop is cutting the corporate tax rate 896 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,360 Speaker 1: is not not really what I think we all signed 897 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,839 Speaker 1: up for. I mean, even if it's a good thing, 898 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: that this is right, you know, maybe maybe it's the 899 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,919 Speaker 1: first of many great things. So okay, fine, but it's 900 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: not that clear to me that this is uh, this 901 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: is gonna be as amazing as they say that. So 902 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. Thank you Brian for for calling it. 903 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Um. Look, I understand if someone wants 904 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,320 Speaker 1: calling and tell me the other side of the argument. 905 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 1: I know there's more money than they invest more capital, 906 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: but what if people just don't People hold onto their capital. 907 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't. Companies keep a lot of money on 908 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: the balance. You look at a little more money and 909 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,439 Speaker 1: they'll pay their executives a little bit more. I see 910 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: plenty of places where the decision about what people are 911 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 1: getting paid is being made by other people, and just 912 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: who has them, who has the power to be in 913 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 1: that boardroom versus who doesn't. It's not always oh, we're 914 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 1: just gonna pay all of our We're gonna pay all 915 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: of our workers more. I mean maybe if there's so 916 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 1: much more cash out there. Because this has such a 917 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: huge impact on corporations across the board to have this 918 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: lower tax rate, I am assuming there also will probably 919 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 1: be some places where they can't write things off. And 920 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 1: you know that there'll be some trade offs if they're 921 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: gonna get this lower rate. I'm sure Democrats will assist 922 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,240 Speaker 1: on that. So all right, only thinks they're a win, Tony. 923 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 1: Tell me why this is a win? Tony, Yes, sir, 924 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 1: h fuck shield tie Tony, listening to you on the 925 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: I Heart radio. Thank you, sir, appreciate it. So so 926 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 1: tell me why this tax thing is gonna be good. 927 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 1: All right, here's the thing. I heard your last caller, 928 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: and I understand what he's saying. But all of us 929 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 1: um benefit when we get to keep more of our money, 930 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,240 Speaker 1: whether you're a rich corporate guy or whether you're somebody 931 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:40,439 Speaker 1: hammering out fifty a year. Because those people have kids too, 932 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: they build houses to when they build a house, they 933 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 1: employ more people when they take vacations because they got 934 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: this huge e top bonus, how whatever you wanna call it. 935 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 1: They spend it and we all benefit. It's not as 936 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 1: simple as some may think where they get all the 937 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: money and I get you know nothing. I mean it 938 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,279 Speaker 1: benefits us. Hey, gifts economic economic machine going. We may 939 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: not see it every day of our life, but that 940 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 1: guy is spending that money. Even if you build some 941 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:13,720 Speaker 1: rich matching vacation home, people get employed. Okay, all right, Tony, 942 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: thanks for listening, and thank you very much for your call. Michael, 943 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 1: and Florida also wants to weigh in on taxes. Hey, Michael, 944 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate everything you do. Uh, that is just about 945 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 1: ready to wanted to reach to the radio on you 946 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,359 Speaker 1: on this one. What happens is for let's say the 947 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars is saved in taxes. Uh, somebody has 948 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: that two thousand to spend. They can spend it on anything. Now, 949 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 1: think about it. Every time you buy something, there's you know, 950 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 1: from home depot. There's the distributor that brought it to 951 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: home depot. So then that person's tax at that level. 952 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: There's the the group that made it, and there might 953 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: be two or three vendors that make parts of the 954 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: item that it's assembled into. Each one of those folks. 955 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 1: I was a little bit more money, and then they go. 956 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: Each has a little bit more money and they get tax. 957 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: The people that dug up the raw materials they sell 958 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more, they have more money, they get tax. 959 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: That's the government get you. I know, velocity of money. 960 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 1: I get all this. But Michael, what if I just 961 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 1: like park my bonus in my bank account for the 962 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: next five years, which I could do, park your butt. 963 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 1: If you park your bonus in your bank account, that's 964 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: one thing. If you park your bonus where first of all, 965 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 1: the bank is using it, their loaning it out, other 966 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 1: people get to do things with the second of all 967 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: of this if it's in a far oh one k 968 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: that money helps businesses. Alright, So you're you're saying it's 969 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: a win. Michael has made a compelling case. That's a 970 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: win no matter what. All right, there, we haven't say 971 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,240 Speaker 1: thanks team helping educate me on all this stuff too. 972 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: He's back with you now because when it comes to 973 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:45,360 Speaker 1: the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. All right, team, 974 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 1: welcome back. We have a special treat for you special guest. 975 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,839 Speaker 1: Here today in studio in the Freedom Hut, we have 976 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: Jason Delgado with us. He is an author and uh 977 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: former marine. He's an Operation I Rocky Freedom lead sniper 978 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 1: and co author of the new book Bounty Hunter four three, 979 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 1: My Life in Combat from Marine Scout sniper to mar 980 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 1: Sock Jason. Great to have you, sir, How you doing? 981 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 1: Those titles are crazy? Every time someone introduces me on 982 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 1: the radio, I gotta tell him, you know, there's no 983 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 1: such thing as like a lead sniper job. That's like 984 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: my publicist, you know, they never really get it right. 985 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: It's like Hollywood, right, you know, they always send these 986 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 1: titles ahead of time. And what's like with me? People 987 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 1: sometimes on TV introduced me as like former CIA Super 988 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 1: Secret School and then I'm like, I made some amazing lattez. 989 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 1: I wrote a lot of memos, but that's a whole separate, 990 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: separate story. I really didn't have no choice but to 991 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 1: stay alive, you know what I mean. I don't know 992 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 1: about top, but I was okay, I guess you know, 993 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: But there was a tough You were actually a guy 994 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: on the front lines in combat. So I want to 995 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 1: talk to you about that and what's going on here 996 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: with this book. First of of course, man, First off, 997 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 1: you are like me, a New York City, a new 998 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: York City native, and you grew up at a time 999 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 1: when when the city was a very I even remember 1000 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: very I think we're about the same age, very different 1001 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: place it was, and it was it was pretty chaotic, 1002 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 1: like you know what the perception I guess of what 1003 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 1: most would think of what New York is. That's definitely 1004 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 1: what it was when we were coming up back then. 1005 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 1: It was just psychotic nous, you know. Um. And I 1006 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 1: mentioned that in the book where I bring that up 1007 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 1: in the book because you know, I kind of wanna, um, 1008 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 1: I kind of want to bring people in to my 1009 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: upbringing so that it could understand that by the time 1010 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 1: I already got into combat, I was sort of desensitized 1011 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 1: to that, that that violence of the blood bloodshed, you know, 1012 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 1: they got to the point where it was it was 1013 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 1: like something I could just you know, witness and just 1014 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: kind of move on from there and get into a 1015 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, a clear thought and push on or whatever. 1016 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 1: So it was if you were to say that early on, 1017 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 1: before you join the Marines, then you had become not 1018 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 1: accustomed to you but at least had experience with the 1019 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 1: fight or flight response that one feels when danger and 1020 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: course and and this is and this once again growing up. 1021 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: And then everybody wants to like everybody wants to like 1022 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 1: attribute their childhood to being something somewhat of an m 1023 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,439 Speaker 1: M A gauntlet. You know. Everybody wants to say that, 1024 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, they were, you know, scrapping every day. But 1025 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 1: growing up in like New York City, it was literally 1026 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 1: scrapping every day, you know. And you know, the older 1027 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: guys got you guys to you know, fight all the time, 1028 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 1: instigating fights, and so it was you got used to 1029 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: that fight or flight real fast, and you realize the 1030 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: best way to deal with something is just to confront it, 1031 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 1: you know. And uh also it's like walking in the city. 1032 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 1: You you know this because you're from here. The more 1033 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 1: weakness you show, the more chances you're gonna get, you know, 1034 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 1: picked on. And you know a lot of these predators 1035 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 1: are like hyenas. They only go for the easy prayer, 1036 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: the easy target. It was the same way. It was 1037 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: the same way growing up, you know, so you had 1038 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 1: to you know, that's why New York is you know 1039 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,400 Speaker 1: where where um where uh we have that uh I 1040 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: guess that stigmatism that we have, that bravado, you know 1041 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 1: that we walk around like you know, we're you know, 1042 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 1: God's gift to you know this mean streets or whatever, 1043 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 1: but it's just a defense mechanism. Mechanism. Really, you're coming 1044 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 1: about the decision to the Marines. How do you how 1045 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 1: do you come about that? And what was it like 1046 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 1: when you first got in so um. I guess the 1047 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 1: first like movement emotionally of patriotism that happened within me 1048 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: was when I used to watch footage from like CNN 1049 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 1: or you know, any other major like news networks that 1050 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: would cover desert shield, desert storm, and I would see 1051 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 1: like the night you know, the the green hues of 1052 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 1: the night vision and the trace arounds, you know, impacting 1053 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 1: the walls, and just and as something you know, got 1054 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 1: in me and I just knew that I was gonna 1055 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 1: be there. I had to be there. I don't know 1056 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 1: it was maybe um you know prophecy, uh, prophesizing at 1057 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 1: that moment, but just something happened where I said, man, 1058 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 1: if someone's there, I want to be there, you know, 1059 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to be left out of this. I 1060 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 1: just always had that sense of like duty since I 1061 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 1: was a young, young young kid. Really I was like eleven, 1062 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: twe How how did you once you were in the 1063 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 1: Marine Corps. And we're speaking of Jason Delgado, author of 1064 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 1: a new book outlet's doing really well, Bounty Hunter for three, 1065 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 1: My Life in Combat from Marine Scout sniper to mar sock. Jason, 1066 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: you're in the Marines, already elite, already storied warriors. How 1067 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 1: do you decide to become a scout sniper? That was 1068 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 1: my I actually found out about Scott Snipers and initially 1069 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 1: and then I found out that the Scott Snipers were 1070 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 1: umudicative to the Marine Corps. So I read um Carlos 1071 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Hascox book and from there I was in love with 1072 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 1: the culture. I guess, with the with the title and 1073 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 1: the and the job from the stories I've read, and 1074 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,680 Speaker 1: I found out it was the Marine Corps. So to me, 1075 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: after that, there was no other choice. It had to 1076 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,480 Speaker 1: be the Marine Corps. Um I tried in other places 1077 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 1: because I you know, as far as recruiting, because I 1078 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: didn't think the Marine Corps was gonna take me. But 1079 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 1: the Marine Corps as soon as I walked in through 1080 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 1: the door, I don't know, it was just like destiny. 1081 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 1: Just things started falling in a place, you know, difficult 1082 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 1: things as well, They just started falling in line for 1083 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: me to just naturally follow that past. Tell me about 1084 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 1: your first deployment into a war zone. Wow, first deployment 1085 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 1: to a war zone. You got understand that's that was 1086 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 1: America's first time into a combat zone, no joke, combat zone. 1087 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 1: Like we're invading a country in a long time, I 1088 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 1: want to say, since Vietnam, you know. I mean, we've 1089 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,720 Speaker 1: we've done other conflicts where it's like you know, Panama 1090 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, But this was like an entire 1091 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 1: military effort, you know, and everyone wanted to play in 1092 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 1: the big show. Everyone was eager, everyone was excited. What 1093 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 1: I what I tell people is it's like you've been 1094 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,480 Speaker 1: training um basketball with the coach for years and never 1095 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 1: really got to play a real game, and then now 1096 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 1: you get win that there's a there's a no joke, 1097 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,480 Speaker 1: real game happening and you might potentially start in it. 1098 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: So that's how it felt. It felt like everything we learned, 1099 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 1: everything we sacrifice, all our sweat and tears, it's it's 1100 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,160 Speaker 1: gonna be for something, you know, And that's exactly what 1101 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 1: it was. And also you gotta understand, that's a big 1102 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 1: that's a big ball of emotion. You got that eagerness. 1103 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 1: You got that that energy, that that just lust, that 1104 01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 1: thirst to kill, you know, because that's what we harbor, 1105 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 1: and that's what we do to each other. That's how 1106 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 1: that's the only way we're gonna win wars. You know, 1107 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say it, but that's the fact of 1108 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 1: the matter. War is ugly, and you have to you 1109 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 1: have to rebel in the supreme violence of action in 1110 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: order to win. And that's what they that's what they 1111 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 1: harness in us. So you have that, you're dealing with that, 1112 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, and you get in country and you just 1113 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 1: find out everybody's like waving white flags and you and stuff. 1114 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 1: So it's nuts, but you know, it's it's an emotional 1115 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 1: roller coaster in country. After the first deployment, I was 1116 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 1: so burnt out emotionally that I think the second deployment 1117 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 1: allowed me to think a lot clear, which was in 1118 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 1: due time, because as the time progressed, you know, the 1119 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 1: T tps got worse, you know, with the I E. 1120 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 1: D s and you know, they were the rocket attacks 1121 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 1: and you know it was just they were they were 1122 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,880 Speaker 1: really going for numbers after that second after that first deployment, 1123 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 1: So I'm glad I kind of got all that over 1124 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 1: eagerness and excitedness out of the way so that I 1125 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 1: can start thinking calmly and clear for the next deployment. 1126 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 1: Telling me about the battle for who Saba that was 1127 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 1: the worst freaking mh, this thing that's ever happened to me. 1128 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 1: That really turned me into who I was. Subsequently, the 1129 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,600 Speaker 1: after effects of that as well. Um, I I seen 1130 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 1: some pretty gruesome stuff up to that point, and I'm 1131 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 1: not saying it was the most gruesome stuff that I witnessed, 1132 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 1: and you know, but it was crazy. But it was 1133 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 1: the most exhausted, the most. I feared for my life 1134 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 1: the most. I felt helplessness the most. Uh. I was 1135 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 1: just vulnerable because you truly knew any given time it 1136 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,040 Speaker 1: could be yours, your time to go, and that was 1137 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 1: that was the overall feeling. So I guess emotionally, so 1138 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 1: it's to compare that battle or to compare that deployment, 1139 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 1: because we it wasn't just that one day. It was 1140 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 1: it was a slew of enemy activity for the entire time, 1141 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 1: so much so that it was just to the point 1142 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 1: where we became zombies. Emotionally, tell us a little bit 1143 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 1: out to just the background for those listeners who don't 1144 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,880 Speaker 1: moren't familiar with the whole deployment as well as this 1145 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 1: one particular pitched bat exactly, so the whole deployment. Um, 1146 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,600 Speaker 1: we took over the area from the army and um, 1147 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,160 Speaker 1: WHO'SAIBA and we took over it was it was an 1148 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,479 Speaker 1: area and I'll climb um it's a small border town. Yeah, 1149 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 1: it's it's in I'll clim Iraq and it's a small 1150 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,600 Speaker 1: border town bordering um Syria. And I get. I tell 1151 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 1: people I equivocated to our no galis. That's how crazy 1152 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 1: it is. That's where the drugs come in, that's where 1153 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 1: the weapons come in. That's where you know, Brits of 1154 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 1: cash come into fund all types of illegal activities, not 1155 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,320 Speaker 1: just terrorism. Guys. You know a lot of people want 1156 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 1: to attach that that religious aspect to what these people 1157 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,960 Speaker 1: are doing. And I write in the book that it's 1158 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more than that. It's a criminal organization, 1159 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 1: like that's what it is. And you know, they throw 1160 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 1: the taboo, the stigmatism of religion so that people think 1161 01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: it to be taboo and kind of like stay away 1162 01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 1: from it, you know, And I think that's what's happening. 1163 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 1: You know, they're starting to mix that into a religion, 1164 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 1: and now we're we want to be hands off, but 1165 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,439 Speaker 1: more off on a tangent. So that's what we're seeing. 1166 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 1: It's a hotbed of criminal activity. And we take over 1167 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,919 Speaker 1: from the army and I remember telling my guys, we're 1168 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 1: gonna It sucked because we were starting the camp from scratch, 1169 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 1: so we didn't have showers, we didn't have nothing. It 1170 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,760 Speaker 1: was terrible. But CBS went in there and did their thing. 1171 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 1: But I was telling my guys, I say, don't worry, 1172 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna get and forgive. Forgive my language. People, you 1173 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 1: have to understand. I think I was twenty one at 1174 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 1: the time, twenty twenty, and I was in charge of 1175 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 1: scott Snipers were meat eaters. Okay, we're meat eaters. And 1176 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,479 Speaker 1: I tell my guys, don't worry. We're gonna go into 1177 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 1: this city. We're gonna reduce a few targets, you know, 1178 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 1: to be PC, and we're gonna show him whose boss 1179 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 1: and then not gonna mess around, and we're gonna have 1180 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,800 Speaker 1: a easy deployment. I can't believe I said those words. 1181 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 1: I jinx us. It was by far the most work 1182 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 1: I've ever done in my life. Life. We went out 1183 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,520 Speaker 1: for anywhere from forty eight seventy two hours, come back 1184 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:09,000 Speaker 1: for six eight twelve hours, and go back out again 1185 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 1: for another forty eight hours. And this was non stop 1186 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 1: for about six months straight, and it was conflict weekly. 1187 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 1: It was mortar attacks into the base weekly. Like the 1188 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 1: enemy went from um or. The enemy actually got to 1189 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,680 Speaker 1: develop at this point. You gotta understand ices and al 1190 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 1: Qaeda started actually organizing with Zarkawi and all that over 1191 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,160 Speaker 1: in Iraq at this time, so they started getting organized 1192 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 1: and we were there, so we were the first line 1193 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,920 Speaker 1: of resistance for the organism. The structure of of this 1194 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 1: new organizational I guess the predecessors to what it is now. 1195 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,720 Speaker 1: And we got a lot of brunt of it. We 1196 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:45,720 Speaker 1: got the I E. D. S, We got the mortars, 1197 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,440 Speaker 1: we got the rockets. It was nothing like the year before. 1198 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 1: It was nothing like the invasion. The invasion was white flags, parades, roses. 1199 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,760 Speaker 1: They were bringing out, you know, big huge plates of 1200 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 1: Barzon rice, and it was it was, wow, we're liberating 1201 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,120 Speaker 1: this place. I know, we felt, you know, we felt 1202 01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 1: like we were Caesar. You know. It was crazy um 1203 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,919 Speaker 1: and sure enough we went into the occupation and that's 1204 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 1: that that phase We went into the hearts and mind 1205 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,200 Speaker 1: phase the campaign where we wanted to build their restructure 1206 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:16,599 Speaker 1: and build the infrastructure, the school houses and soccer balls 1207 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,679 Speaker 1: and all that, and it just blew up in our face. 1208 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,640 Speaker 1: They wanted to kill us. That's what it was. And 1209 01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,760 Speaker 1: it took us a while to shift from that position 1210 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 1: or that that stands from hearts and minds, soccer balls 1211 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,360 Speaker 1: and playing with the kids and building the schools too. No, 1212 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,360 Speaker 1: we're still in this fight. We have to survive. And 1213 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,720 Speaker 1: that's that. That was that. That was that moment that 1214 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,400 Speaker 1: woke us up and said, oh Na, this warrior nova, 1215 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 1: it's still going down. You want more details, everybody, you 1216 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,599 Speaker 1: should go get Bounty Hunter for three My Life in Combat, 1217 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 1: Marine Scout sniper uh to mar Sock and Jason Delgado 1218 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,120 Speaker 1: is the author. Jason, remember two years ago, I think 1219 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 1: you told me about the book. I said, we'd have 1220 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,880 Speaker 1: you on radio, and here you are. Congrats and all 1221 01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:02,080 Speaker 1: your success. Thank you and thank you for your service 1222 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,920 Speaker 1: and for your incredibly compelling stories here today. Everyone should 1223 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,640 Speaker 1: go check out Bounty Hunter for three and Jason Delgado, 1224 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 1: welcome back you guys. I just want to put on 1225 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: out there that you were the only one to follow 1226 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 1: up with me. Even while I was in Afghanistan. You 1227 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 1: wrote to me and told me you're not You didn't 1228 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 1: forget about me, And as soon as the project came 1229 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 1: out to hit you up, you hit me up three 1230 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,120 Speaker 1: times in the last three years, four years to make 1231 01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,720 Speaker 1: sure that app that's crazy. Your memory is sick. I 1232 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 1: commend that, sir, And I just want to say, if 1233 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 1: anybody wants to follow me, you can go to Instagram 1234 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:37,200 Speaker 1: at J Delgado a r T E. J. Delgado Arty 1235 01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,679 Speaker 1: And thanks for the support and the love. I appreciated. Guys, 1236 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:47,320 Speaker 1: really do okay? Um is sub paragraph e and it 1237 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:52,840 Speaker 1: says several of president elect nominees are senior advisors have 1238 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:57,920 Speaker 1: Russian ties. Have you been in contact with anyone connected 1239 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 1: to any part of the Russian government about the election? 1240 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:07,120 Speaker 1: Either before or after election day? And I took that 1241 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 1: to me as uh, not any casual conversation. But did 1242 01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:19,559 Speaker 1: I participate pate with Russians about the election? That something 1243 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 1: was wrong? Every one of your previous questions talk about 1244 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:27,639 Speaker 1: improper involvement, and I felt the answer was no. Jeff 1245 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:32,240 Speaker 1: Sessions getting grilled today by the Senate Judiciary Committee, We're 1246 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 1: just gonna keep on going over the same territory with 1247 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:39,280 Speaker 1: Sessions over and over and over again, Democrats using it 1248 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 1: as a prime opportunity for a tremendous amount of grandstanding. 1249 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 1: And so once you're talking grandstanding and Senate Judiciary Committee, 1250 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:51,880 Speaker 1: you know you got here from some al frank and 1251 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:56,040 Speaker 1: think's got a little a little bit testy between Frankie 1252 01:10:56,040 --> 01:11:01,799 Speaker 1: and and Sessions over the course of this session. Sorry, 1253 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,320 Speaker 1: First it was I did not have communications with Russians, 1254 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:14,160 Speaker 1: which was not true. Then it was I never met 1255 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 1: with any Russians to discuss any political campaign, which may 1256 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:23,040 Speaker 1: or may not be true. Now it's I did not 1257 01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:29,240 Speaker 1: discuss interference in the campaign, which further narrows your initial 1258 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 1: blanket denial about meeting with the Russians. Since you have 1259 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,599 Speaker 1: qualified your denial to say that you did not quote 1260 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:43,880 Speaker 1: discuss issues of the campaign with Russians, what in your 1261 01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:50,400 Speaker 1: view constitutes issues of the campaign, Well, let me just 1262 01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 1: say this without hesitation, that I conducted no improper camp 1263 01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:02,240 Speaker 1: or discussions with Russians at any time regarding a campaign 1264 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:08,720 Speaker 1: or any other item facing this country. They're gonna keep 1265 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,880 Speaker 1: asking him, though, it's never gonna go away. They're gonna 1266 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,559 Speaker 1: as as long as Democrats view this as a politically 1267 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 1: advantageous narrative, You're gonna keep hearing it. It's not gonna 1268 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 1: stop over and over again. This is going to be 1269 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 1: the expectation that we should should This is the expectation 1270 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,280 Speaker 1: we should all have here. And I just have to wonder, 1271 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,720 Speaker 1: at what point is it is it gonna see him 1272 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,439 Speaker 1: a little too crazy? I mean, if you believe that 1273 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:36,880 Speaker 1: Jeff Sessions was colluding with the Russians to get Donald 1274 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,920 Speaker 1: Trump elected, you will believe anything you have to me. 1275 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 1: There is no intellectual credibility whatsoever in the argument that, 1276 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,240 Speaker 1: let's think about this, everybody, Jeff Sessions working with the 1277 01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:53,880 Speaker 1: Russians to help Trump get elected. Really, yeah, I know 1278 01:12:54,080 --> 01:13:00,599 Speaker 1: that that's what they're implying, if not outright declaring, that's 1279 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 1: what they That's what they want to get into. And 1280 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,479 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's such a divide right now with 1281 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:11,200 Speaker 1: the media that will cover speaking of Russia, all of 1282 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,400 Speaker 1: the recent reporting. I talked about it yesterday in the 1283 01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,880 Speaker 1: show at some length about how the Trump I'm sorry 1284 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 1: about how the Obama administration not only refused to do 1285 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 1: anything about Russian meddling in the US uranium, which is 1286 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,000 Speaker 1: US nuclear sector. Right, I mean this is this ties 1287 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:35,120 Speaker 1: into the whole issue of nuclear energy and nuclear security. Uh. 1288 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,000 Speaker 1: Not only was the Obama administration not willing to bring 1289 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:43,720 Speaker 1: to light that there was a Russian plot underway to 1290 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:49,719 Speaker 1: bribe people engaged in corruption violations the Four Corrupt Practices Act, 1291 01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,839 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff going on. Not only was that happening, 1292 01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:57,040 Speaker 1: but now latest report I saw today was that the 1293 01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:02,200 Speaker 1: Obama administration threatened a nous to all of that Russia 1294 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:06,120 Speaker 1: corruption that tied directly into the Clinton Foundation to hillarate 1295 01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:07,960 Speaker 1: a bill. Yeah that's right, I want to get a 1296 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,519 Speaker 1: lot of money, uh, tied directly into them. And witness 1297 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:17,760 Speaker 1: wanted to come forward, and the Obama administration was threatening 1298 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,800 Speaker 1: the witness you know, you better not you know, you 1299 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,920 Speaker 1: signed some kind of an n d A or something 1300 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,240 Speaker 1: from when he went to to the Just Department. This 1301 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,280 Speaker 1: guy blew the whistle the FBI and then according to 1302 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 1: the reports I was reading today, FBI d o J. 1303 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,200 Speaker 1: What's the d o J call? They were like, well, 1304 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,679 Speaker 1: you better not say anything about this. Why can't people 1305 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,479 Speaker 1: Why can't the American people know if there's a there 1306 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,960 Speaker 1: was one low level prosecution, but we could have known 1307 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,360 Speaker 1: much more about the extent of this. Remember this trying 1308 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:49,600 Speaker 1: to influence US businesses, and he's holding the line for 1309 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:56,360 Speaker 1: America sex in his back Welcome Back team. I wanted 1310 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,000 Speaker 1: to talk to you about this story that I think 1311 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:04,320 Speaker 1: has some how stayed well below the radar, and it 1312 01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:08,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't if you haven't heard about it. I'll give you 1313 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,559 Speaker 1: the background and then i'll tell you what I think 1314 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:14,880 Speaker 1: is involved here and what it tells us. You have 1315 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:20,439 Speaker 1: a A US judge has ordered a federal judge has 1316 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:26,080 Speaker 1: ordered the Trump administration to allow for a an illegal immigrant. 1317 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,360 Speaker 1: They're calling her here in this Washington Post piece, an 1318 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:33,479 Speaker 1: undocumented undocumented teen, a seventeen year old I legal immigrant 1319 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:37,320 Speaker 1: to have an abortion while she's in federal government custody. 1320 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: Um so, the referring GEORGI says, because she's a miners 1321 01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,559 Speaker 1: as Jane does. We don't have her name, don't have 1322 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,559 Speaker 1: any particular information on her background other than she's from 1323 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,559 Speaker 1: Central America, she's seventeen, she's pregnant, and she wants to 1324 01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,800 Speaker 1: have an abortion, and she's currently in federal custody. And 1325 01:15:54,880 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 1: this makes Democrats very, very angry. They view abortion as 1326 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:08,280 Speaker 1: a right. They view abortion access as something that is 1327 01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:14,200 Speaker 1: h never allowed to be truncated or limited anyway. And 1328 01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:19,320 Speaker 1: I think while the political realities have sometimes prevented Democrats 1329 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:23,320 Speaker 1: from being open about this, they believe that you should 1330 01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,760 Speaker 1: be funding abortions with the federal government's money. The federal 1331 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,760 Speaker 1: government should be paying for this procedure for everyone in 1332 01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 1: this country, including illegals, including illegals. I should just note 1333 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,719 Speaker 1: as as I was going through this story, Uh, there's 1334 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:43,040 Speaker 1: so much dishonest language that the left uses in all 1335 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:47,200 Speaker 1: of this, and there are all these different terms and 1336 01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:51,840 Speaker 1: and the way that they describe this, it's very clear 1337 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,479 Speaker 1: what side the media is on when it comes to 1338 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:58,080 Speaker 1: the issue of life, when it comes to issues of 1339 01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:02,559 Speaker 1: of abortion. The Washingon post share this story or today 1340 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,560 Speaker 1: it's what caught my attention, and they referred to they 1341 01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:09,920 Speaker 1: referred to the federal judge blasting the Trump administration attempts 1342 01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 1: to deny abortion for a pregnant undocumented teen. First of all, 1343 01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:22,960 Speaker 1: there are there's the abortion component of this discussion, and 1344 01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,200 Speaker 1: there's also the illegal immigrant component of it. Let me 1345 01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,760 Speaker 1: take the second part of it first. Right, Let's talk 1346 01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:32,640 Speaker 1: about the illegal aspect here, which is, now, if you 1347 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,880 Speaker 1: come to this country from anyone in the world. You're illegal. Um, 1348 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:41,479 Speaker 1: you have the right to demand any and any at 1349 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,160 Speaker 1: all rights that liberals believe the Constitution grants, including the 1350 01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,960 Speaker 1: right to an abortion. That seems to be a That 1351 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,200 Speaker 1: seems to be a stretch. Um. Now I know in 1352 01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:57,519 Speaker 1: the details of this, there's the argument is being made, 1353 01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,040 Speaker 1: at least based on the details, as I see here 1354 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,720 Speaker 1: in the Washington Post pe that these woman, according to 1355 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:08,080 Speaker 1: the judge, um that that the the government is preventing her, 1356 01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:13,240 Speaker 1: she would use money through a court a court appointed 1357 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:20,000 Speaker 1: guardian to cover the expenses. Quote chut Kin, who is 1358 01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,559 Speaker 1: the judge here, countered during the hearing, the teenager does 1359 01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 1: not need a medical emergency to exercise her right to 1360 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,640 Speaker 1: an abortion. She said the teen had followed state and 1361 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,240 Speaker 1: federal rules. She obtained permission from a state judge in 1362 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,040 Speaker 1: Texas to have an abortion and would cover the expenses 1363 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:38,640 Speaker 1: herself or with help through her court appointed guardian. So 1364 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't know this court appointed guardian. So it sounds 1365 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,160 Speaker 1: to me like the guardian is going to pay for this. 1366 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:44,840 Speaker 1: I don't know who the guardian is that court has 1367 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:49,960 Speaker 1: appointed one. But the the Left is pushing very hard 1368 01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,479 Speaker 1: on this issue, a c LU is involved. You've got 1369 01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,760 Speaker 1: Democrat members of Congress writing letters, they're all upset about this, 1370 01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:00,560 Speaker 1: and you know, there's that, As I said, there's the 1371 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,479 Speaker 1: issue of what rights does an illegal immigrant having that 1372 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 1: If an illegal limurin shows up and wants to have 1373 01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:10,800 Speaker 1: elective surgery, do does the taxpayer cover that? Well, they're 1374 01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,600 Speaker 1: in custody, so if you show I mean, I'm just 1375 01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,960 Speaker 1: trying to understand what the limits are here. If if 1376 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,519 Speaker 1: an illegal limer it comes to America and they're in 1377 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,439 Speaker 1: custody and they're not supposed to be in the country 1378 01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 1: and they violated US law knowingly and willfully, and they say, 1379 01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,639 Speaker 1: but you know, I've got this, I've got a heart condition. 1380 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,320 Speaker 1: So um, I'm I would like a I would like 1381 01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,840 Speaker 1: heart surgery before I go home. Do we have to 1382 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:36,120 Speaker 1: do that? I think I think the Democrat line is 1383 01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,519 Speaker 1: of yes, of course we have to do that, which 1384 01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,160 Speaker 1: really just means that we didn't have to pay for 1385 01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,160 Speaker 1: anyone's health care from anyone around the world who comes 1386 01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:46,080 Speaker 1: to America. The point about who is going to pay here? 1387 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:50,200 Speaker 1: And look, it's tricky. The Post is a pro abortion, 1388 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:55,600 Speaker 1: a pro abortion paper. The New York Times is a 1389 01:19:55,680 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 1: pro unabashedly pro abortion paper, and when you read when 1390 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 1: you're relying on their reporting on the issue, and I 1391 01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,000 Speaker 1: wish I had gone into I didn't have the time 1392 01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:08,760 Speaker 1: today as I came back in New York to go 1393 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,639 Speaker 1: into the actual transcripts of the court proceedings. I'm also 1394 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:15,240 Speaker 1: not a legal analyst and not a somebody who just 1395 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,360 Speaker 1: watches what's going on with the courts all day, but 1396 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:18,800 Speaker 1: I would like to get into the two more of 1397 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,519 Speaker 1: the details here because I find that you you can't 1398 01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:27,000 Speaker 1: trust the reporting of Democrat leftist papers like The Post 1399 01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,520 Speaker 1: and The Times and others whenever the issue of abortion 1400 01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,880 Speaker 1: or immigration, or when you've got abortion and immigration together, 1401 01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,280 Speaker 1: you know they're lying to you. You know they're using 1402 01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,200 Speaker 1: words to misconstrue the situation. You know they're holding back 1403 01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 1: information that does not support their argument. But even beyond then, 1404 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:50,479 Speaker 1: the the legal realities of this, and keep in mind 1405 01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:53,440 Speaker 1: that the legal reality is all based upon the completely 1406 01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:59,800 Speaker 1: fallacious notion that the Constitution says that a woman, because 1407 01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:01,280 Speaker 1: of the I to privacy, is the right to an abortion. 1408 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:05,519 Speaker 1: And that's just that is a terrible and evil lie 1409 01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,120 Speaker 1: that has been around for a long time and even 1410 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:13,200 Speaker 1: honest socialist leftist legal scholars that I know. I knew 1411 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,720 Speaker 1: one actually in college, a professor and emers who would say, yeah, 1412 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean Roe v. Wade is just garbage law. It's 1413 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:24,600 Speaker 1: garbage law, no matter what you think of abortion. But 1414 01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:30,479 Speaker 1: what you see here with the the an issue that 1415 01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:36,160 Speaker 1: brings together, um, abortion and illegal immigration, as you have 1416 01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,280 Speaker 1: these two, I hesitate to use the word sacred because 1417 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,040 Speaker 1: what you're talking about in the case of abortion is 1418 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:44,880 Speaker 1: actually so wrong, so evil, but sacred to the Democrats. 1419 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,439 Speaker 1: It is. It is a it has been described by 1420 01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,560 Speaker 1: other writers and commentators I know as as a sacrament 1421 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,040 Speaker 1: of the Democrat party, and that is said um with 1422 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:59,120 Speaker 1: a kind of dark humor because of what is involved here. 1423 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,320 Speaker 1: But you know, I can say this that while the 1424 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,000 Speaker 1: A C. L U Is battling it out to make 1425 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,920 Speaker 1: sure that a seventeen year old girl can make a 1426 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,200 Speaker 1: decision that I think she'll probably end up regretting for 1427 01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,639 Speaker 1: the rest of her life, there are only certain things 1428 01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:17,559 Speaker 1: that I can uh go to sleep and know every 1429 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,720 Speaker 1: night after I've done this show are true. And one 1430 01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:26,360 Speaker 1: of them is that if I can convince just one 1431 01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,799 Speaker 1: person who is listening to this show live or listening 1432 01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,840 Speaker 1: to it on a podcast, or however, whenever one person 1433 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,080 Speaker 1: listening to this show to actually just have the baby 1434 01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,360 Speaker 1: that they're thinking about not having, and we'll have really 1435 01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,519 Speaker 1: made all this worthwhile. And I also know that if 1436 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,599 Speaker 1: one person listening to the show, and I'm hoping it's 1437 01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,120 Speaker 1: it would be more than that over all the years 1438 01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,600 Speaker 1: I've been doing this, if one woman listening to this 1439 01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:57,160 Speaker 1: show decided to have the child and in year's time 1440 01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,400 Speaker 1: felt like I had, I had led her astray, I 1441 01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,960 Speaker 1: had missed this led her by by helping to convince 1442 01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,320 Speaker 1: her without speaking to any one individual, right, but just 1443 01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,640 Speaker 1: from listening to me talk about the issue, that I 1444 01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,879 Speaker 1: would be I would be happy to take whatever blames 1445 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:10,720 Speaker 1: she would want to throw my way, because I am 1446 01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:14,760 Speaker 1: so certain that in time she would feel like she 1447 01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,040 Speaker 1: had made by having the childs you have made the 1448 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:26,040 Speaker 1: right decision, though, the the moral and ethical and godly choice. UM. So, 1449 01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,880 Speaker 1: whatever the a c l U does here, whether they 1450 01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,120 Speaker 1: win or don't win, on this case, it seems to 1451 01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,800 Speaker 1: me like this federal judge has now threatened contempt for 1452 01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,479 Speaker 1: anyone who would stand in the way of the sevente 1453 01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,720 Speaker 1: union old girl who's having an abortion. Also, the CUE 1454 01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,879 Speaker 1: was very upset that anybody was even notified, any adult 1455 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:46,000 Speaker 1: or court appointed guardian, I believe, notifying that she was 1456 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:50,759 Speaker 1: probably gonna have an abortion. Um, this is a deep 1457 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:56,920 Speaker 1: moral rot within American society today, this notion that that 1458 01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:03,040 Speaker 1: there's something inherently right and google about women terminating their pregnancies. 1459 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:07,560 Speaker 1: And and this is it's beyond it's beyond the parameters 1460 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,599 Speaker 1: of me being on a talk show here. It's beyond 1461 01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,960 Speaker 1: the parameters of oh, you know what, what do people 1462 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,200 Speaker 1: think about this? How does this go from my career? 1463 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,479 Speaker 1: You know? Am I? Am? I making a good enough case, 1464 01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:23,480 Speaker 1: that's all. It doesn't really matter. There's just an underlying 1465 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:27,719 Speaker 1: truth here. The underlying truth is that life is sacred 1466 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,960 Speaker 1: and everyone should do everything they can to support it. 1467 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,120 Speaker 1: And I would hope that anybody listening to this, he 1468 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,479 Speaker 1: was ever maybe even in the future, face with the choice, 1469 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:43,000 Speaker 1: would make the choice. You just simply put, um, have 1470 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:47,000 Speaker 1: the baby, Have the baby. Don't get led astray by 1471 01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:50,599 Speaker 1: the media, by the A C. L U, by the 1472 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:56,080 Speaker 1: Democrat Party, which has really made a pact with Satan 1473 01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,360 Speaker 1: on this. And I don't speak to you in Fire 1474 01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:02,360 Speaker 1: and Brimstone terminology, not somebody who's showing up to try 1475 01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,000 Speaker 1: And I know you get what you need and that 1476 01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,680 Speaker 1: on that issue on Sunday, or for some of you, 1477 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,600 Speaker 1: that's not something you're into it all, or maybe you 1478 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,320 Speaker 1: get it a different day of the week. But the 1479 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,920 Speaker 1: religious side of life, that's not something to talk to 1480 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,759 Speaker 1: you about here on the show. But this is about ethics. 1481 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,519 Speaker 1: I mean, this is more, this is natural law. You 1482 01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,479 Speaker 1: don't even have to believe in a deity to understand 1483 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,400 Speaker 1: that this is wrong what is going on in this country. 1484 01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,439 Speaker 1: And I don't spend a lot of time on the 1485 01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,640 Speaker 1: show talking about it because it's honestly upsetting to me. 1486 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:31,120 Speaker 1: I know it's upsetting to a lot of you. I 1487 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:32,640 Speaker 1: know that you've had a long day and you have 1488 01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,160 Speaker 1: yourself and families to take care of. And I try 1489 01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:39,000 Speaker 1: to keep the show not just informative but also entertaining. 1490 01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:44,639 Speaker 1: And this is obviously very disconcerting. It's depressing. But when 1491 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:48,880 Speaker 1: you see how much the Democrat Party rallies around getting 1492 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:53,920 Speaker 1: a scared illegal immigrant seventeen year old girl in abortion, 1493 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,360 Speaker 1: and you see the ferocity with which they want to 1494 01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,120 Speaker 1: push and make sure that this is the choice that 1495 01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:01,200 Speaker 1: she makes it's hard not to come away from it 1496 01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:08,400 Speaker 1: and feel like there is a a central moral stain 1497 01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:12,200 Speaker 1: on the Democrat Party right now that it is um. 1498 01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:16,559 Speaker 1: It has gone far astray and is is not a 1499 01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,519 Speaker 1: force for good in the world, my friends. It is not, 1500 01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,599 Speaker 1: not on this issue, and not on some other issues too, 1501 01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,080 Speaker 1: but on this one. There will come a time. It 1502 01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,120 Speaker 1: might not be in my lifetime, but there will come 1503 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,479 Speaker 1: a time in our future, and I think actually science 1504 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,679 Speaker 1: will be supporting it at some point when we look 1505 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:37,760 Speaker 1: back on issues like this, cases like this, moments in time, 1506 01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,839 Speaker 1: like when a seventeen year old girl is in federal 1507 01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:44,759 Speaker 1: custody and you have powerful people in our society, powerful 1508 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,400 Speaker 1: organizations that are just rushing to make sure that she 1509 01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,960 Speaker 1: can get an abortion, and they will. People will look 1510 01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:55,160 Speaker 1: back at this and say, how barbaric that is. I 1511 01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,719 Speaker 1: am certain, and it will take time. I am certain 1512 01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,680 Speaker 1: that at one point in the future we will America 1513 01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,240 Speaker 1: or whatever this country is called then, because given what's 1514 01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,360 Speaker 1: going on these days, who knows well things are gonna look. 1515 01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,479 Speaker 1: We'll look back on this and we'll think about it 1516 01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,760 Speaker 1: in a similar way that we think about UM. You know, 1517 01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:17,720 Speaker 1: human sacrifice, slavery, just deep odious moral failings that we say, well, 1518 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,559 Speaker 1: that would never happen. Now we've finally gotten past that. 1519 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:24,160 Speaker 1: We will get past the abortion lobby. One day, we 1520 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,760 Speaker 1: will get past this, but it's going to take time, 1521 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:31,559 Speaker 1: and unfortunately in the process, UH, countless people are losing 1522 01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:35,519 Speaker 1: their lives, the unborn. I know, I said I would 1523 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,160 Speaker 1: get into some history, and I want to, but I 1524 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:41,559 Speaker 1: just I couldn't pass over this without some comment. Here. 1525 01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:49,680 Speaker 1: I see that over at MSNBC one of the hosts, Stephanie. 1526 01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,800 Speaker 1: I don't know her, I'm not familiar with her her work, 1527 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:58,760 Speaker 1: but she took time on her show to honor the 1528 01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:05,240 Speaker 1: fallen green Berets in nijer Um. And that is as 1529 01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:09,000 Speaker 1: anyone listening to the show knows. I I applaud whenever 1530 01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,599 Speaker 1: the media decides to show some additional deference and respect 1531 01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,640 Speaker 1: to those who are serving, and especially those who have 1532 01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:19,639 Speaker 1: been lost in the service, who died fighting for their countries. 1533 01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,960 Speaker 1: But I also can't help but think about how here 1534 01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:28,479 Speaker 1: is an MSNBC host who I believe has a let 1535 01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,080 Speaker 1: me see she she went in and told the back 1536 01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:35,200 Speaker 1: stories of these individuals who were lost. This is all 1537 01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,840 Speaker 1: to the good and and I'm I'm pleased to see 1538 01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:43,800 Speaker 1: that MSNBC has such an interest in the troops and 1539 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:47,880 Speaker 1: and those who those who have fallen in battle. But 1540 01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:51,000 Speaker 1: it also seems to be kind of a new phenomenon 1541 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:56,800 Speaker 1: over at MSNBC. I paid pretty close attention during the 1542 01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:01,360 Speaker 1: Obama years and in fact made some you know, tried 1543 01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:07,120 Speaker 1: to bring some attention to this, that there were a 1544 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:11,280 Speaker 1: vast majority of US casualties killed in action in Afghanistan. 1545 01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:16,559 Speaker 1: It occurred under Barack Obama's watch, And I just want 1546 01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:20,360 Speaker 1: to know, why did I never see a story on 1547 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,160 Speaker 1: that in the entire eight years of Obama's presidency appear 1548 01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:26,800 Speaker 1: once on MSNBC. I never saw. Now. I'm sure if 1549 01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,400 Speaker 1: you go back and you look and all the transcripts, 1550 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,960 Speaker 1: they could find something. Right. They must have covered it somewhere, 1551 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,960 Speaker 1: I suppose, But there's not just a perception. I think 1552 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,639 Speaker 1: it's a reality that the anti war for anti war 1553 01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:44,160 Speaker 1: voices and left were largely silence during the Obama years, 1554 01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:50,360 Speaker 1: and also the desire of the media to show combat 1555 01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:54,840 Speaker 1: fatalities as a number on a screen to show the 1556 01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,920 Speaker 1: American people what's going on. I think that there was 1557 01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:04,800 Speaker 1: a pretty clear lack of interest in explaining to the 1558 01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,519 Speaker 1: American people what was going on in Afghanistan. I can 1559 01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,040 Speaker 1: tell you this, most people that I talked to, including 1560 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,200 Speaker 1: people over at CNN, who are supposed to be very 1561 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:14,479 Speaker 1: up on all this, because I had this discussion over 1562 01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:20,080 Speaker 1: there with some of their journalists once not all air 1563 01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,719 Speaker 1: this was off fair, um. But most of the people 1564 01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,880 Speaker 1: that that are out there that are supposed to be 1565 01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,560 Speaker 1: up on all this don't even know that there was 1566 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:33,320 Speaker 1: a spike in KIA in Afghanistan under Obama's time in office. 1567 01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:37,280 Speaker 1: It's hard not to feel like when a channel like 1568 01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:41,880 Speaker 1: MSNBC that you know is so clearly partisan takes such 1569 01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:47,679 Speaker 1: an interest in a military incident like this, it's not 1570 01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:54,880 Speaker 1: driven largely by politics over any actual sense of an 1571 01:30:54,920 --> 01:31:01,280 Speaker 1: obligation to inform the American people and show them deference 1572 01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:03,639 Speaker 1: on air for those who are falling about I mean, 1573 01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,599 Speaker 1: I feel free to correct me if you think I'm 1574 01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:10,200 Speaker 1: wrong on this one, but I do not remember any 1575 01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:15,200 Speaker 1: hosts over at MSNBC once once in eight years of 1576 01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:19,440 Speaker 1: Obama's presidency, when we were taking heavy casualties in Afghanistan, 1577 01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:24,920 Speaker 1: double the casualties of the Bush years. We're taking heavy 1578 01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,479 Speaker 1: casualties in Afghanistan, I do not remember MSNBC doing moments 1579 01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,880 Speaker 1: of silence. I do not remember. And look, the answer 1580 01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,080 Speaker 1: is that we should always be showing respect to veterans. 1581 01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:34,960 Speaker 1: The answer is that we should always be showing respect 1582 01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:38,639 Speaker 1: for those who are fallen in battle. It's not you know, oh, 1583 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:40,439 Speaker 1: well they didn't do it then, or they should do 1584 01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,519 Speaker 1: it now, or that's it's not. It should never be 1585 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:46,479 Speaker 1: in either or situation. So in a sense, yes, okay, 1586 01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,000 Speaker 1: they're doing it now and doing it showing respect is 1587 01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:52,840 Speaker 1: a good thing. But I can't help but notice that 1588 01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:57,160 Speaker 1: it is also right now politically advantageous to highlight this 1589 01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:00,760 Speaker 1: issue because of the narratives around it. A Trump is, 1590 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, on on feeling uncaring, doesn't care about the 1591 01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:10,040 Speaker 1: doesn't care about the troops. I also know from every 1592 01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,320 Speaker 1: veteran that I've spoken to, and maybe it's because there's 1593 01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,360 Speaker 1: a maybe there's a sample bias, because a lot of 1594 01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:22,000 Speaker 1: the veterans I know are are staunch conservatives, but not 1595 01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:23,719 Speaker 1: I don't think all of them are. And every veteran 1596 01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:25,000 Speaker 1: than I speak to, if you asked them, who would 1597 01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:29,120 Speaker 1: you rather? Who do you think is at his or 1598 01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:33,080 Speaker 1: her core more supportive of the military, President Trump or 1599 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:36,840 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, they would all say President Trump. I just 1600 01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,400 Speaker 1: I think that there's theatrics at work here with some 1601 01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:43,200 Speaker 1: of these media types, and it's very disconcerting. I just 1602 01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:48,639 Speaker 1: saw before on the screens over at CNN, UH formerly 1603 01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,840 Speaker 1: Clinton News Network, now it's you know, I don't know, 1604 01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:56,479 Speaker 1: just anti Trump network, but I saw the segment where 1605 01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,519 Speaker 1: they one of the what is Anderson Cooper was doing 1606 01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:00,920 Speaker 1: the keeping the minds that the White House is politicizing. 1607 01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,080 Speaker 1: The White House says, don't politicize soldiers deaths, and then 1608 01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:07,599 Speaker 1: is politicizing them. Well, the media is politicizing this all 1609 01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:11,680 Speaker 1: over the place. And if they were the guaranteurs of 1610 01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:14,120 Speaker 1: our freedoms, and if they were the staunch defenders of 1611 01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:17,839 Speaker 1: the republic that they like to pretend they are, especially 1612 01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:21,840 Speaker 1: when it suits their purposes in discussions about the Trump administration, 1613 01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:23,840 Speaker 1: you'd think that they would take the high road of 1614 01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:27,360 Speaker 1: this and just say, we we respect goldst Our families, 1615 01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,880 Speaker 1: we respect the falling, We respect the sacrifice of those 1616 01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:34,479 Speaker 1: who have died in battle for this country and those 1617 01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:38,800 Speaker 1: who have served this country, and that's it. They don't 1618 01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,920 Speaker 1: need to be trying to referee every comment or every 1619 01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:44,599 Speaker 1: comment on a comment about Trump and all this stuff. 1620 01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:47,920 Speaker 1: So that just really struck me that here they are 1621 01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:51,240 Speaker 1: and the left is uh is trying to score as 1622 01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:55,439 Speaker 1: many points as they can. Alright, let's talk. Let's change 1623 01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:57,240 Speaker 1: up here. I'll talk a little history because it's been 1624 01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,479 Speaker 1: a bit of an intense hour. So tell you about 1625 01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,120 Speaker 1: the Siege of Vienna, and because it just happened a 1626 01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:10,519 Speaker 1: little while ago. He's holding the line for America, buck 1627 01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:16,760 Speaker 1: Sexton his back. The Siege of Vienna October of A 1628 01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:20,559 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty nine, actually started a little before then, but 1629 01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:24,880 Speaker 1: it ended on October of A fifty nine. So if 1630 01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:27,280 Speaker 1: if we had had a show, it was on a Sunday. 1631 01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,519 Speaker 1: Otherwise I would have done it on the anniversary of 1632 01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,920 Speaker 1: the end of the siege. But here's a quick, a 1633 01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,120 Speaker 1: quick deep dive into what happened, a little bit of 1634 01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:39,519 Speaker 1: a history deep dive for all of you listening. So 1635 01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,360 Speaker 1: I've talked to you in the past about the Cross 1636 01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:44,560 Speaker 1: versus the Crest, at the series of battles between the 1637 01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:49,360 Speaker 1: Ottoman Empire and the Christian States that stretched out over 1638 01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:53,240 Speaker 1: centuries and get very little discussion, very little treatment in 1639 01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:59,800 Speaker 1: most college and high school curriculums. And the expansion of 1640 01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:03,040 Speaker 1: the the Ottoman Empire into Europe, the Jihad in fact 1641 01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:07,479 Speaker 1: into Europe, the attempt to seize key strategic notes for 1642 01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:10,559 Speaker 1: the purposes of conquering all of Christendom. That was going 1643 01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:15,800 Speaker 1: on for quite some time before finally the Ottoman Caliphate 1644 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:19,679 Speaker 1: fell apart after the First World War. Um, but we're 1645 01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:24,599 Speaker 1: talking sixteenth century here, at really the height of the 1646 01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:29,280 Speaker 1: Automan Empire's powers, and the siege of Vienna was the 1647 01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:32,679 Speaker 1: first of two first of two major campaigns to take 1648 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:36,240 Speaker 1: that city. So it's just as as a way of 1649 01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:40,720 Speaker 1: background here by fine things weren't looking so good for 1650 01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:44,719 Speaker 1: Europe for the Christian forces. The Ottomans already had all 1651 01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:50,040 Speaker 1: of the Balkans, Bulgaria, and Greece under their control. Vienna 1652 01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:53,720 Speaker 1: was only a hundred miles from Ottoman controlled the territory. 1653 01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:57,080 Speaker 1: Vienna was a strategic target for them and is on 1654 01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:02,960 Speaker 1: the Danube River, which connects the heart of mainland Europe 1655 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,280 Speaker 1: to the Black Sea. It's also the longest river in 1656 01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:09,120 Speaker 1: all Europe and it stretches like an artery through the 1657 01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,400 Speaker 1: heart of Europe itself. If you sees this location on 1658 01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:16,400 Speaker 1: the Danube, you could then move not just goods and commerce, 1659 01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:22,280 Speaker 1: but large numbers of troops for future military campaigns to 1660 01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:26,919 Speaker 1: conquer Europe all the way to the north and western 1661 01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:30,519 Speaker 1: coast of the European continent, which was the plan. There 1662 01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,559 Speaker 1: was the Battle of Mohats in fifteen twenty six before this, 1663 01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,360 Speaker 1: where you had some of the best troops of the 1664 01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,840 Speaker 1: Kingdom of Hungary, which at the time was actually an 1665 01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:43,360 Speaker 1: important power. They were slaughtered ten thousand infantry and four 1666 01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:47,439 Speaker 1: thousand cavalry killed in one day. In fact, Louis the 1667 01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:52,080 Speaker 1: second of Hungary was killed while trying to flee that 1668 01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:56,040 Speaker 1: That battle total annihilation. The Ottomans annihilated the force against 1669 01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,519 Speaker 1: them at Mohats in fifteen twenty six. So the Kingdom 1670 01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:02,320 Speaker 1: of Hungary got split up then, and you had the 1671 01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:07,120 Speaker 1: Archduke Ferdinand of Austria and is also the brother of 1672 01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:11,080 Speaker 1: Holy Roman Emperor Charles the five in play here. Hungary 1673 01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:16,960 Speaker 1: was a frontier province. Um it is split up, and 1674 01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,200 Speaker 1: it was split up, and it was now a place 1675 01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:24,080 Speaker 1: where the Ottomans realized that they were making for rays 1676 01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:28,160 Speaker 1: into Europe itself, so they wanted to move on Vienna. 1677 01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,800 Speaker 1: In nine they finally get together the force to do so. 1678 01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,200 Speaker 1: You have an Ottoman army of over a hundred and 1679 01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:38,519 Speaker 1: fifty thousand marched from Bulgaria starting on the tenth of 1680 01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:42,280 Speaker 1: May fifty nine. You had spa He's who are the 1681 01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,400 Speaker 1: elite noblemen and cavalry of the Ottoman Empire and the 1682 01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:51,120 Speaker 1: janissaries along with Balkan auxiliary auxiliaries that were picked up 1683 01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:53,880 Speaker 1: along the way. And Suliman, the Magnificent Suleiman himself was 1684 01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:58,480 Speaker 1: commanding this army, probably the most famous and most powerful 1685 01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:04,879 Speaker 1: on an insulting of all time. So he declared a jihad, 1686 01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:09,200 Speaker 1: a formal holy war against Habsburg, Austria and Charles the 1687 01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:13,240 Speaker 1: fifth of the Holy Roman Empire. Um. So there's a 1688 01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,000 Speaker 1: huge gihad of a hundred fifty thousand en route to 1689 01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:22,320 Speaker 1: Vienna as of early summer and late spring nine, and 1690 01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:24,760 Speaker 1: they have to move large artillery pieces. This comes into 1691 01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:28,320 Speaker 1: play later. Three hundred artillery pieces were part of the caravan, 1692 01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,920 Speaker 1: part of the baggage train, and because of difficult whether, 1693 01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:35,720 Speaker 1: they leaves some of it behind. On the way. Sulman's 1694 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:42,759 Speaker 1: forces captured Buddha, which later became known as Budapest, capital 1695 01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:47,320 Speaker 1: of Hungary, very old city in eastern Europe. And I 1696 01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,519 Speaker 1: hear actually quite nice to visit. Then we turn our 1697 01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:53,680 Speaker 1: eyes to Vienna, the bulwark of Christianity itself. So in 1698 01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:57,680 Speaker 1: Vienna you have Austrian civilians fleeing in large numbers. They 1699 01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:02,960 Speaker 1: leave behind only four hundred capable military age males for 1700 01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:07,200 Speaker 1: the defense, and there are just crazy, frenzied preparations to 1701 01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:12,120 Speaker 1: make a stand in Vienna, realizing that if the Ottomans 1702 01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:14,680 Speaker 1: seized it, then they would be able to strike into 1703 01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:17,880 Speaker 1: the heart of Europe itself, and it was likely that 1704 01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:22,120 Speaker 1: the momentum would carry them too much further conquest of Europe. Basically, 1705 01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:25,560 Speaker 1: if the Siege of Vienna fifteen twenty nine had gone differently, 1706 01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:28,880 Speaker 1: you might be speaking Turkish, my friends, but I'll get there. 1707 01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:32,000 Speaker 1: Charles the Fifth, however, is not able to show up, 1708 01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:35,360 Speaker 1: so he's busy fighting the French, which was a common 1709 01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:38,040 Speaker 1: problem among the Christian nobles of the time. They should 1710 01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:42,240 Speaker 1: have been uniting against the threat of jihad and conquests 1711 01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,639 Speaker 1: from the Ottomans. Instead, they were often fighting each other, 1712 01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:47,880 Speaker 1: and some of them even made a separate peace with 1713 01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:51,800 Speaker 1: the Ottomans at different times. But Charles does send seventeen 1714 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:56,960 Speaker 1: thousand lands connects. Uh. These are lance land servants or 1715 01:39:57,040 --> 01:40:03,800 Speaker 1: grunts their German mercenaries from the Holy Roman Empire, and 1716 01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:07,200 Speaker 1: they were well known for their brightly colored clothing. The 1717 01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,960 Speaker 1: Lance Connects people don't really hear about them anymore, really 1718 01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:13,559 Speaker 1: a fascinating punch. They were something of an imitation of 1719 01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:17,400 Speaker 1: Swiss pikemen. There were mercenaries and the pike, which is 1720 01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:19,120 Speaker 1: the very long spear at the time could be up 1721 01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:23,120 Speaker 1: to eighteen feet long, was used in tight formations and 1722 01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:29,559 Speaker 1: it essentially created a human porcupine effect which was useful 1723 01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:33,559 Speaker 1: in stopping cavalry charges and when you paired the pikemen 1724 01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,880 Speaker 1: with gunpowder weapons. So the front line would have these 1725 01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:41,000 Speaker 1: long spears and people then in the mobile square formation 1726 01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:45,040 Speaker 1: would also have early versions of what would later be rifle, 1727 01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:49,160 Speaker 1: something called an arquebus. Then they could hit from afar, 1728 01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:52,120 Speaker 1: and they also were protected up close from cavalry charge, 1729 01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:57,439 Speaker 1: which had been a constant menace to early stage, in 1730 01:40:57,439 --> 01:41:03,760 Speaker 1: particular gunpowder weapons. The Lens Connects also had these vyhander 1731 01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,560 Speaker 1: two hander in German, which is a broadsword kind of 1732 01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:11,400 Speaker 1: like William Wallace the krieg Messer, which is a war knife. 1733 01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:15,200 Speaker 1: It looks like a cavalry saber, and they were best 1734 01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:18,400 Speaker 1: known though for their brash, rowdy and provocative style address. 1735 01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:22,880 Speaker 1: These guys wore baggy pants, floppy hats and scarves, flowy shirts, 1736 01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:27,040 Speaker 1: lots of feathers, leggings of different colors. It's kind of 1737 01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:32,400 Speaker 1: like German special forces of the time wearing capes and 1738 01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:40,400 Speaker 1: brightly colored stuff. Um. So it was it was surprising 1739 01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:42,599 Speaker 1: too many to see that this is an elite military 1740 01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:45,280 Speaker 1: unit of the time, but they had quite a reputation, 1741 01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:49,040 Speaker 1: a lot of bravado, and also they wore a protruding 1742 01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:51,160 Speaker 1: metal cod piece, and those of you don't know what 1743 01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:54,200 Speaker 1: a cod pieces, I'll just say that you can look 1744 01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:55,680 Speaker 1: that one up on your own if you like. But 1745 01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:59,920 Speaker 1: it's a protective area, for your protection, for your area. 1746 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:04,080 Speaker 1: It um. The Viennese were so freaked out about the 1747 01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:08,200 Speaker 1: impending on an invasion that they melted down church treasures 1748 01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:12,160 Speaker 1: to pay the mercenaries, and overall command was left in 1749 01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,320 Speaker 1: the hands of a seven year old German mercenary named 1750 01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:18,200 Speaker 1: Nicholas of Psalm. He blocked off the gates, reinforced the walls, 1751 01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:22,680 Speaker 1: took the basic precautions or basic defensive measures that you 1752 01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:26,200 Speaker 1: would expect, but they also signed something called the Oath 1753 01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:29,240 Speaker 1: of Vienna. The decision to fight until the very end, 1754 01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:33,120 Speaker 1: till their very last breath. The defenders in Vienna promise 1755 01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:36,600 Speaker 1: that they would die alongside one another in defense of 1756 01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:40,200 Speaker 1: the Christian faith. The Ottomans take quite a while to 1757 01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:45,080 Speaker 1: get there. They arrive in late September, and the Turkish 1758 01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:47,400 Speaker 1: light cavalry are the first to show up in the 1759 01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:49,439 Speaker 1: side of the city and they plunder the villages and 1760 01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:52,759 Speaker 1: engage in horrific slaughter, and even the Ottomans of the time, 1761 01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:57,320 Speaker 1: the Ottoman chroniclers said that the slaughter was was horrific. 1762 01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:01,680 Speaker 1: They were trying to make examples of these civilians, of 1763 01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:05,719 Speaker 1: those villagers nearby, and so they confirmed that this happened. 1764 01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:09,040 Speaker 1: And Suleiman wanted the city to surrender, so he actually 1765 01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,600 Speaker 1: sent some prisoners. And the reason for this was that 1766 01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:13,840 Speaker 1: if the Ottoman sultan was able to get a city 1767 01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:17,680 Speaker 1: to surrender, everything inside was his. If his soldiers had 1768 01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,080 Speaker 1: to fight, it was tradition, it was expected that they 1769 01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:24,200 Speaker 1: would be allowed three days of plunder and pillage. The 1770 01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:30,080 Speaker 1: Viennese garrison says no, the artillery barrage from the Ottomans follows. 1771 01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:32,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't do quite as much because they had to 1772 01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:34,759 Speaker 1: as as much as anticipated because some of the heaviest 1773 01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,800 Speaker 1: guns got lost in the swamps and marshes along the way. 1774 01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:41,920 Speaker 1: But the real military effort, the real fight in this 1775 01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:46,760 Speaker 1: conflict was decided underground. It was subterranean. Earthen works were 1776 01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,320 Speaker 1: essential in this process. You had the Ottomans digging a 1777 01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:53,639 Speaker 1: zigzag of trenches and then they would dig underneath the walls, 1778 01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:56,519 Speaker 1: with the sappers dig close to the walls to create 1779 01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:58,800 Speaker 1: a large chamber they were they wanted to fill it 1780 01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:01,240 Speaker 1: with gunpowdered, lighted and boom, a section of the wall 1781 01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:05,639 Speaker 1: would crumble. No earth, no earth below the wall, no wall. 1782 01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:10,840 Speaker 1: It's pretty straightforward tactic um. But the Viennese defenders saw 1783 01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:12,880 Speaker 1: that this was going to happen, and they sent out 1784 01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:16,080 Speaker 1: a major sortie of a few thousand to find and 1785 01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:19,439 Speaker 1: destroy these underground explosive chambers and those building them right away. 1786 01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,920 Speaker 1: They assaulted these trenches, which took the Ottomans off guard, 1787 01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:26,360 Speaker 1: and they didn't find the explosive area right away, but 1788 01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:29,439 Speaker 1: they found a prisoner. They tortured him and they eventually 1789 01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,519 Speaker 1: found out where the main charge, where the uh the 1790 01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:35,880 Speaker 1: surprise massive explosion was being laid. Because these earthen works 1791 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,160 Speaker 1: were massive think about this. Around the entire city, they're 1792 01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:42,280 Speaker 1: trying to trench and and and sap and take. But 1793 01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:44,759 Speaker 1: they found out from this captive that at the Corinthian 1794 01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:49,200 Speaker 1: Gate the massive explosion was planned. And it was here 1795 01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:52,000 Speaker 1: that a massive breach was opened up in the wall 1796 01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:55,280 Speaker 1: a hundred feet wide near the Corinthian Gates. But because 1797 01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:59,040 Speaker 1: of this intelligence they had procured from the captive, the 1798 01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:04,360 Speaker 1: mercenaries brightly colored brash lands Connects were there. Their pikes 1799 01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:06,599 Speaker 1: were thick and efficient, and they were able to beat 1800 01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:10,920 Speaker 1: back the best of the Ottoman forces, including the feared Janissaries. 1801 01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:14,240 Speaker 1: On October the twelfth, fifty nine, they were running low 1802 01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:17,320 Speaker 1: on food, so the Sultan decided to go for an 1803 01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:22,519 Speaker 1: all out assault. It was launched on October October. Two 1804 01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:28,320 Speaker 1: hours of intense fighting ensued, but the Turks came up 1805 01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:31,760 Speaker 1: against fierce resistance from once again the lands Connects with 1806 01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:37,240 Speaker 1: their arquebuses and and their pikes. And finally, with no 1807 01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:42,280 Speaker 1: ground taken inside the city and a morale among his 1808 01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:46,439 Speaker 1: men that was dropping by the day, Suleiman decided that 1809 01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:50,040 Speaker 1: on October fifty nine. Again, I wish I had done 1810 01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:52,600 Speaker 1: this on October fifteen, but it was Sunday, it was 1811 01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:56,880 Speaker 1: time to break camp and leave. There was a final 1812 01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:00,120 Speaker 1: harassing attack by Christians in what is today brought is 1813 01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:03,200 Speaker 1: Lava by the Viennese defenders. The Sultan wanted to come back. 1814 01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,840 Speaker 1: Suleiman tried to return in fifteen thirty two, but got 1815 01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:10,120 Speaker 1: bogged down fighting in Croatia. It was not until sixteen 1816 01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:13,519 Speaker 1: eighty three and the second grade Siege of Vienna that 1817 01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:18,599 Speaker 1: the Ottomans would again threaten this key Christian stronghold. So 1818 01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:20,559 Speaker 1: the reason I'm telling you about this is that you know, 1819 01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,920 Speaker 1: as we look today at the at the Islamic state 1820 01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:27,280 Speaker 1: and their defeat, which should be celebrated across the board, 1821 01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:32,200 Speaker 1: there's such a lack of historical context given for what 1822 01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:35,840 Speaker 1: caliphates were, what they were trying to do, and the 1823 01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:39,200 Speaker 1: threat at at different times the actual caliphate. There a 1824 01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:43,920 Speaker 1: real caliphate. The Ottoman Caleb posed to Christian Europe and 1825 01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:49,519 Speaker 1: the various efforts to conquer Europe by force and with 1826 01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:52,760 Speaker 1: the sword, to make the crescent fly over the cross, 1827 01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:56,759 Speaker 1: and to make Islam the religion of all of Europe 1828 01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,479 Speaker 1: and with it changing, of course, the entire trajectory of 1829 01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:04,960 Speaker 1: the world. These were aggressive maneuvers. These were conquest efforts. 1830 01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:07,400 Speaker 1: This was not defensive, This was not a response to 1831 01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:11,560 Speaker 1: a crusade. The Ottomans were trying to take Europe for themselves. 1832 01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:15,400 Speaker 1: Two efforts in Vienna, which I just told you about, 1833 01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:18,360 Speaker 1: the sixteen eighty three that ended with a massive I 1834 01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:20,840 Speaker 1: believe the largest ever that is believed to the largest 1835 01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:24,240 Speaker 1: ever cavalry charged to finish off that battle. Uh And 1836 01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:29,120 Speaker 1: that was celebrated recently as well. That also happened in October. 1837 01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:33,080 Speaker 1: That was celebrated in u in Poland, and I told 1838 01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:36,000 Speaker 1: you about that news story. But this was the furthest 1839 01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:37,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Vienna was the furthest the Ottomans ever made 1840 01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:40,800 Speaker 1: it into Europe from the east. I've talked to you 1841 01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:43,240 Speaker 1: about the Siege of Malta here on the show in 1842 01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,559 Speaker 1: a fifteen sixty five that came later. They tried to 1843 01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,759 Speaker 1: move by sea because overland became too difficult to strike 1844 01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:51,200 Speaker 1: into Europe. So this is how you ended up with 1845 01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:55,320 Speaker 1: Ottomans trying to siege, trying to seize Malta, which I 1846 01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,080 Speaker 1: discussed you on the show with a show with the 1847 01:47:57,120 --> 01:47:59,559 Speaker 1: Siege of Malta, and then later the Battle of Leapanto 1848 01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:03,320 Speaker 1: on October were seventh of a fifteen seventy one. So 1849 01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:06,439 Speaker 1: this is a continuation of our discussions of Cross versus Christ, 1850 01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,639 Speaker 1: and I hope you found it interesting and a bit helpful. 1851 01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:10,599 Speaker 1: I don't think you hear about it that many other places. 1852 01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:14,200 Speaker 1: We'll team to close up the Freedom of today. I 1853 01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:17,680 Speaker 1: just want to say that it was a an eventful 1854 01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:20,400 Speaker 1: and and a worthwhile a couple of days doing a 1855 01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:23,639 Speaker 1: what do they called it a mid Atlantic mini tour 1856 01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:28,080 Speaker 1: I guess, got to spend some time in Washington, d C. 1857 01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:30,759 Speaker 1: Some of you saw me on Brett Bears panel on Monday. 1858 01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:34,360 Speaker 1: That was really really fun and it was great to 1859 01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:36,639 Speaker 1: get a chance to meet Brett, who's among the very 1860 01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:41,160 Speaker 1: very best in the entire business. And also on Tuesday 1861 01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:45,400 Speaker 1: getting to do the show from w CBM, which is 1862 01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:48,799 Speaker 1: a radio station, a great radio station in the Baltimore area. 1863 01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:53,000 Speaker 1: I did not get to spend as much time in 1864 01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,800 Speaker 1: Baltimore as I want, in the actual city as I 1865 01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:59,000 Speaker 1: had initially thought I would. The area of Baltimore that 1866 01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:02,000 Speaker 1: I saw was it was right near the train station, 1867 01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:04,280 Speaker 1: and I say it looked kind of like almost a 1868 01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:08,240 Speaker 1: college town. There was a University of Baltimore, or maybe 1869 01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:11,679 Speaker 1: it's Baltimore College that was right there. But I definitely 1870 01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:15,400 Speaker 1: definitely enjoyed my little trip. But you know, I always 1871 01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:17,479 Speaker 1: missed the I always missed the Freedom Hut when I'm 1872 01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:19,720 Speaker 1: away from it for more than a day. So it 1873 01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:21,479 Speaker 1: was good to be back here in New York City 1874 01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:24,040 Speaker 1: with the team. And you know, there's no radio studio 1875 01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:26,519 Speaker 1: that's as comfortable as your radio studio. It's kind of 1876 01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:28,960 Speaker 1: like home. You know, there's no place like home where 1877 01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:32,799 Speaker 1: whatever your home based studio is, there's a certain degree 1878 01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:38,400 Speaker 1: of relaxation and and chill factor that you get from 1879 01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:41,800 Speaker 1: being in your own place. So with that, I also 1880 01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:45,280 Speaker 1: wanted to say that I appreciate all the feedback that 1881 01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:47,920 Speaker 1: I've been getting from you on the show. I did 1882 01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,240 Speaker 1: not get into a team buck Speaks tonight, so we'll 1883 01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:54,439 Speaker 1: definitely do one tomorrow and probably on Friday too. I 1884 01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:56,840 Speaker 1: think it's fun to have your voices on air, and 1885 01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:59,280 Speaker 1: I love it when I get the oh my gosh, 1886 01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:02,360 Speaker 1: you read my mess and John Ayre's yeah, exactly, That's 1887 01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:04,080 Speaker 1: what I keep saying. This is what we're gonna do. 1888 01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:07,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna include and we're gonna set up an email 1889 01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:08,800 Speaker 1: address as well, because I know some of you are 1890 01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:13,360 Speaker 1: probably more email prone than uh than Facebook message based. 1891 01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:15,720 Speaker 1: You know, we come at this in a multi platform, 1892 01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:20,000 Speaker 1: a multi platform and a multi platform perspective. But yeah, 1893 01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:22,280 Speaker 1: that was. That was. And also when I was down 1894 01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:24,080 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, of the house I was staying and I 1895 01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:26,479 Speaker 1: was staying with a with a friend, there was a 1896 01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:30,759 Speaker 1: big black lab that must have weighed over a hundred 1897 01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:33,559 Speaker 1: pounds and I was thinking, you know, if he lived 1898 01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:36,639 Speaker 1: kind of out in the in the countryside, uh, and 1899 01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:38,800 Speaker 1: you know he had. They were actually bald eagles in 1900 01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,439 Speaker 1: the property. It was pretty amazing. He it's really a 1901 01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:45,760 Speaker 1: farm outside of Baltimore, and I got to spend some 1902 01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:49,880 Speaker 1: time walking around in the fields and it was it 1903 01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,439 Speaker 1: was nice to have that little connection to the more 1904 01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:56,160 Speaker 1: bucolic side of things. But yeah, that the black lab 1905 01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:57,840 Speaker 1: was definitely a highlight for me. I know, I've got 1906 01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:01,439 Speaker 1: dogs on the mind these days, between babysitting the half 1907 01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:04,960 Speaker 1: pit half Boxer, which amazingly enough, a bunch of you 1908 01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:09,479 Speaker 1: have them. I saw the U I saw some of 1909 01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:13,040 Speaker 1: the messages and uh that people were sending in of 1910 01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:17,680 Speaker 1: their own pit Boxer miss pit Boxer mixes. So I 1911 01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:20,960 Speaker 1: didn't know that was a pretty common in New York 1912 01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:25,160 Speaker 1: City to call it a designer dog. Wolf Wolf, designer dog. 1913 01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:27,360 Speaker 1: You used to be called the mutt, but I know 1914 01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:30,240 Speaker 1: muddy is probably now some kind of microaggression. You can't 1915 01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,640 Speaker 1: call a dog a mutt. You have to call it 1916 01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:36,400 Speaker 1: a I think they called them, uh, what is it? 1917 01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:39,640 Speaker 1: A multi breed uh? And or designer dog if you 1918 01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:41,719 Speaker 1: want to get really fancy. So I'm still thinking about 1919 01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:43,240 Speaker 1: but a hundred pound labs give me a little big 1920 01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:45,040 Speaker 1: for New York City. I really gotta keep it thirty 1921 01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:48,920 Speaker 1: pounds and below, or the for the e K nine 1922 01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:51,439 Speaker 1: that will be living with me in Manhattan at some point, 1923 01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:54,280 Speaker 1: hopefully in the not too distant future. Alright, team with that, 1924 01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:58,479 Speaker 1: please do join tomorrow and whenever you can after that. 1925 01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:01,120 Speaker 1: Facebook dot Com, slash box acting for your messages