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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, Hey everybody is Thursday, February second three. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're also contemplating

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Speaker 1: our life choices while walking on the beach. It's me

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Speaker 1: your man, nam G marc Is Grant, joined by Michael

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Speaker 1: f Florio. And you know I was gonna ask how

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Speaker 1: you are spending sort of this dead week between the

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Speaker 1: championship games and the Super Bowl, and you're doing maybe

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Speaker 1: the least fun thing it is to do on planet Earth.

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Speaker 1: You're you're moving right now. Yeah. I haven't even started

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Speaker 1: yet with the like, like, I have packed maybe one

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Speaker 1: percent of our stuff up so far. Of I've been

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff getting ready at the old at

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Speaker 1: the new place to get it move in ready. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is the amount of stuff in the last two

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Speaker 1: done before we move is insane. It is just unfun.

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Speaker 1: There's no other way to describe it. Moving sucks. And

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Speaker 1: there's no other better way to figure out how much

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Speaker 1: stuff you own until you have to pack it up

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Speaker 1: and move it. You will find things that you forgot

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Speaker 1: that you own. You'll be like, do I keep this

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Speaker 1: random screw on top to something I don't even know,

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Speaker 1: Like you just find so much random crap, So god

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Speaker 1: speed to you. But hopefully the place is nice. It's

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Speaker 1: definitely an upgrade. But I I'm someone like this is

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Speaker 1: only like the fourth time maybe in my entire life

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Speaker 1: then I'm like, I stayed there for a while because

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Speaker 1: I know how annoying moving is. And then today I

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Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, I I now realized why I

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Speaker 1: better than anyone. Yeah. I moved a few times in

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Speaker 1: the last few years. And actually there's a point in

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Speaker 1: my life when it felt like I was moving like

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Speaker 1: every year or two years. And I would say this,

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Speaker 1: You learned to not hoard things, especially if you know

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna stay in one place. You learned to

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Speaker 1: not accumulate things because you don't want to have to

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Speaker 1: pack it and move it in the future. So let

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Speaker 1: this be a lesson to you to not hoard, to

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Speaker 1: not engage in conspicuous consumption. Um, we got a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about because free agencies still a little ways

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Speaker 1: from opening, but there have been some things that have

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Speaker 1: happened that maybe will alter the free agent market, especially

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Speaker 1: at quarterback. We also have had some coaches move around.

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Speaker 1: The coaching carousel has already begun spinning, and we've had

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Speaker 1: some players or some coaches I should say, land in

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Speaker 1: new places. So we'll talk about that a little bit

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Speaker 1: and what it could mean for those teams and some

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Speaker 1: of those players fantasy wise as we had into next season.

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Speaker 1: But let's start where we should probably start. Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: has retired again. He says it's for good. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take him at his word on that. He put on

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Speaker 1: a video on Wednesday morning from a beach saying that

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Speaker 1: he was hanging them up for good after twenty three seasons.

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Speaker 1: The Goat says he has done. Now, we went through

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Speaker 1: all this last year and everybody put out their big,

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Speaker 1: long tearful statements and their their congratulations and what have you.

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Speaker 1: I would say this to Brady's credit, he did make

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Speaker 1: the statement that you only get the big tearful letter

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Speaker 1: appreciate him being self aware enough to not make us

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Speaker 1: go through all of that again. Of course, that didn't

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Speaker 1: stop the Internet from congratulating Tom Brady on what has

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Speaker 1: been a magnificent career, obviously a first ballot Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: Although I was thinking this Floria, it would be fun

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Speaker 1: make it, just just for a laugh. No one will

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Speaker 1: believe it, but it'd be funny. That's just me. I

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Speaker 1: of you. I was like, do we really have to

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Speaker 1: I mean probably right. I've seen it both ways. A

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Speaker 1: a lot of people saying, well, what's the harmon waiting

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Speaker 1: five years? It doesn't really change anything. And then everybody

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Speaker 1: can sort of plan out their trips to Canton for

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Speaker 1: Five years from I guess it's from today, right or

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Speaker 1: whenever he officially files the paperwork I think is when

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Speaker 1: the clock starts on his five years. But let's talk

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Speaker 1: on and on about Brady's career. Let's talk about what

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Speaker 1: are Blamee Gabbert and Kyle Trask. They are fifty five

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Speaker 1: million dollars over the cap right now. That's per SPO track.

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Speaker 1: You know. I know they could kind of do some

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Speaker 1: funagling and trying to minimize Brady's cap hit against them

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Speaker 1: and what have you. But regardless, they don't have any

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Speaker 1: money to spend. What is this team gonna do with

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Speaker 1: quarterback this year? Florio, It's gonna be worse than it

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Speaker 1: then a lot of the times we were like, Brady's

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Speaker 1: not Brady, but he's clearly gonna be better I think

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Speaker 1: than what they're gonna go with next season. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: they're they're heavily um over the cap right now, and

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Speaker 1: and then you look at it. Outside of Brady, their

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Speaker 1: next biggest cap hits are Chris Godwin and Mike Evans.

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Speaker 1: And my first thought was, like, could we see one

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Speaker 1: be compared to that. But I could see them. Luckily

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Speaker 1: for the Bucks, there's a lot of like middling free

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Speaker 1: I could see them very much so going into next

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Speaker 1: first two names you mentioned were guys that have been

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Speaker 1: Jimmy g would be the Brady replacement. He would, he would.

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Speaker 1: I should be telling something because Gabert is Actually he's

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Speaker 1: good chance to blame Gabbert may not be back in

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Speaker 1: market for a quarterback. Two things about it. Yes, they

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Speaker 1: time to sort of dig out from that. But they

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Speaker 1: part of this, Mike, is the NFC South is a

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Speaker 1: And I think some of those names you mentioned are

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Speaker 1: and those guys are still both there, and then you're like,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, they're just gonna throw the ball a bunch.

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Speaker 1: But uh, let's they're gonna have a new offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna look extremely different, and truth be told, i'd

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Speaker 1: be shocked if both of them are Bucks next season.

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Speaker 1: I think it's more likely that we see Chris Godwin dealt.

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Speaker 1: He's younger, he's only got two years there. Uh. I

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Speaker 1: think he's the one, like Mike Evans. As great as

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Speaker 1: Mike Evans has been, he's getting up there in age,

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Speaker 1: like you said, and he's a has a lot of

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Speaker 1: haven't done any yet, but I know some people who have.

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Speaker 1: I'm avoiding this Bucks offense altogether because I think this

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Speaker 1: marks now going into next season because we could see one,

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Speaker 1: there in age. They probably want to strike while it's hot,

430
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: see if they can make this work with Josh McDaniels.

431
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Speaker 1: And if that's the case, I don't see them going

432
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Speaker 1: with a young, you know, a quarterback that they kind

433
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: of have to build up. I think they would go

434
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: with the veteran who's shown that he could play well

435
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: with when he has weapons around him and in a

436
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: friendly system like Geno Smith just did last season. I

437
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 1: love the idea of Geno Smith going to the Raiders,

438
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: pairing him with Davante Adams, which, by the way, did

439
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: you see Vonte's tweet about Aaron Rodgers saying he loved

440
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: Somebody asked where what neighborhood is Aaron Rodgers moving into

441
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: and Devantae quote tweeted it and said mine, so maybe

442
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 1: trying to put together a reunion. No one loved Brady

443
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: retiring more than Aaron Rodgers because it's in the biggest

444
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 1: fish on the market now. Absolutely so he can he

445
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 1: can occupy all that time, all that airtime, and all

446
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 1: the attention can focus on Aaron Rodgers. But the idea

447
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 1: of Gino Smith there is not a bad one. Have

448
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 1: him with Davante Adams that I that you know will

449
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 1: will make plays for you all over the field. You

450
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: can work underneath to your tied end. Darren Waller, You've

451
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 1: got Hunter renfro there there are some pieces there. I

452
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: would also say, even though I don't know how the

453
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 1: math works out, Gino in Tampa would be interesting if

454
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: maybe just because like I said, there's nobody in the

455
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: division that's ready to run off and hide. Gino keeps

456
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,959
Speaker 1: you probably at the top of the NFC South penning

457
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: what everybody else does at quarterback there and allows you

458
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 1: to be competitive and make the playoffs while still potentially

459
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Speaker 1: building there. Now, the math maybe a little bit weird.

460
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if they can fit what Gino would

461
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: want contract wise into their salary cap situation. But there

462
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 1: are some ready made pieces if if Gino decides he

463
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 1: wants to leave Seattle and go somewhere new. Alright, so

464
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 1: let's take let's say Gino Smith off the board, and

465
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: those look at Daniel Jones, who we came into this

466
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: season and nobody knew what Daniel Jones situation was, whether

467
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: or not the Giants would keep him long term. He

468
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: had the best season of his career. It wasn't great,

469
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: but it's the best season of his career to the

470
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: point that the Giants are talking about putting together a

471
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: long term deal. But if Vanilla Vick can't get it

472
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: done with Big Blue, any of these other teams there

473
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 1: looked like a good match for Daniel Jones. I do

474
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: think he's gonna return to the Giants, But if not,

475
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: we know he looks good in blue, right, why not

476
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 1: get him make it a little lighter blue and let

477
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 1: him go the Sam Donald route and go down to

478
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: Carolina after New York and see if he can do

479
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Speaker 1: something there. Because to me, Daniel Jones is I think

480
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: he's a good quarterback. I think he's getting a little

481
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: bit overrated. I understand that he did a lot with

482
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Speaker 1: a little this season, like he had the Giants winning,

483
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: had them they won a playoff game, and his receivers

484
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: around him we're bad, like the worst receiving corps in

485
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: the league, I would say, But I think a lot

486
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Speaker 1: of it was the scheme and a lot of it

487
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: the credit goes to Brian Dable. Jones struggled to put

488
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: up numbers before that. He struggle of the turnovers. Everything

489
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: seemed to change this year in this system. So I

490
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: think Daniel Jones is a good quarterback in the right system.

491
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: And of the teams left that we're talking about, the

492
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: Panthers with Frank Reich feels like the most quarterback friendly

493
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 1: system and I think it's one that Daniel Jones will

494
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: play well in. But I ultimately do think he's gonna

495
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: come back to New York. But that being said, I

496
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: kind of feel about Daniel Jones the way I felt

497
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: about Derek Carr last season, which was like, he's really

498
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,239
Speaker 1: good at the right price, But when you start, when

499
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Speaker 1: you start having having to pay like high end QB

500
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: money to keep him on your roster, it's not It

501
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: becomes then a detriment to your team. Because Jones, Car,

502
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: those are quarterbacks that I think could win a Super

503
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: Bowl if the rest of the roster around them is right.

504
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't think they can elevate like a Mahomes or

505
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: or Josh Allen, Joe Burrow. I don't think they could

506
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: take a pretty good roster and win a Super Bowl

507
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: with it. Um that and then once you invest that

508
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: much money into the quarterback, the roster around you starts

509
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: to worsen. So I said last year, I like Derek Carr,

510
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give him a huge contract, and that's kind

511
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: of how I feel with Daniel Jones found the Giants.

512
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: I think the you talk about Daniel Jones and you

513
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 1: talk about the money that he may want, and I

514
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: feel like if somebody pays that to him, whether it's

515
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: the Giants or somebody else. You've really handcuffed yourself at

516
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: this point because you're gonna tie up so much for

517
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, a guy who doesn't seem like he's

518
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: the one to get you over the hump. He's not

519
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: gonna pull you across the finish line and help you

520
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: get that Super Bowl. But you're going to have to

521
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: tie up a lot of assets to bring him in,

522
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: and so that's gonna be the hard part here. I

523
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: think another interesting team, and I don't think it would

524
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: ever happen, but the Tennessee Titans, and I know they

525
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: they've got Molik Willis there and I think they do

526
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: want to try to bring him along. But what we

527
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: saw of Willis at the end of the season let

528
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: you know that there's still a lot of growing that

529
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: he has to do. What we saw out of him

530
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: was a quarterback who was incredibly raw. And this is

531
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: another situation, like I mentioned with Gino Smith and the Bucks.

532
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: The math may not be mathing right. If the Titans

533
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: really are twenty three million over the cap, and what

534
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is going to want, I just don't know

535
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: that it adds up. But he could be a really

536
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: nice replacement for Ryan Tannehill on a roster that seems

537
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: to have a lot of pieces. They've got a defense

538
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: that's good enough. They've got Derrick Henry, who I know

539
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: is getting older but still looks like El Tractor Cito

540
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: when he's healthy. And you put Daniel Jones in there

541
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Speaker 1: and just ask him to not screw it up. There's

542
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: not a lot in terms of pass catchers. They're waiting

543
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: to see what Treylon Burks can be. Robert Woods, as

544
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: much as I love him, I mean the the career

545
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: is pretty much coming to an end for him, so

546
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: they'd have to build up that wide receiver corps. But

547
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: we saw last year Mike Daniel Jones able to have

548
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: some success without having a lot of pass catchers. So

549
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: it's an interesting fit. Maybe not one that in reality happens,

550
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: but it's one of you know, if I could plug

551
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: it in as a kind of a what if? Right

552
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: Marvel did that what If show? If I could do

553
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: what if on Daniel Jones and the Titans, I'd like

554
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: to see it. That's just me. I'm with you. I

555
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: thought that would be a really good fit because my

556
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: thinking was, like, he's a better version of kind of

557
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: what Ryan tan Hill is. He kind of is um.

558
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: They just they just need help. He just needs somebody

559
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: else to kind of help kind of drag him along

560
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: as well. I don't know if there's anybody in Tennessee

561
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: that can do that. Last one in our quarterback matching game,

562
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, who came back to San Francisco when nobody,

563
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: including Jimmy Garoppolo, thought he would be back in San Francisco,

564
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: ended up playing a large part in the forty nine

565
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: or season after Trey Lance went down early in the year. Unfortunately,

566
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: Garoppolo also suffered an injury late in the season that

567
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: kept him out for the remainder of the season. Not

568
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: going to get the kind of money that he had

569
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: gotten previously at this point, but still good enough to

570
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: be a starter somewhere in this league. All the teams

571
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: on this list, what looks like a good home for

572
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: Jimmy G. I will tell you with certainty it will

573
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: not be the San Francisco forty nine. I don't know.

574
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw it, but they asked Kyle Shanahan

575
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: this week if, with Lance and Party being hurt, if

576
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: he sees any way that Jimmy G. Could be back,

577
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: and he was like, no, I don't see that happening.

578
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: And I was just like, God, that's cold blooded for

579
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: a guy who's done a lot for your franchise and

580
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: for you as a coach. But Uh, to me, I

581
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna have to change his colors up

582
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: too much. Uh. This just feels like the ultimate commander's move, right, Like, Uh,

583
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: it didn't work with Carson Wentz and Taylor Heineck and

584
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: all these retreads, but they'll convince themselves. It's the joke

585
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: that we always talk about where they're like, it didn't

586
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: work for those people, but they always convinced themselves at will,

587
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: But it just might work for us. Like that is

588
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: Jimmy G to the commanders. I think that really is

589
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: Jimmy G to the commanders. You know, I don't know

590
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: if he's gonna have the same Taylor Heinekey bleep it

591
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: Terry is down there somewhere attitude, but there are some

592
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: similarities there. Right, You've got a guy in McLaurin who

593
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: is a playmaker all over the field. You've got Curtis

594
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: Samuel who is I guess if you want debo lights

595
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: is maybe the closest thing that Washington has to two

596
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 1: debos Deebo Samuel. You know, they don't really have the

597
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: tight end piece. They don't completely have the running back piece,

598
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: unless you want to believe that Antonio Gibson can be

599
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: something better. But he's enough of a stop gap. I

600
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: think if you're Washington to kind of help you compete

601
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: in a division that you know, the Eagles sort of

602
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: owned the division right now, but the the Commanders can

603
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: sort of compete maybe with Garoppolo and try to build

604
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: up other pieces. We know what he is. He's gonna

605
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: be good enough to kind of get you to the

606
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: playoffs potentially and maybe win a game or two. But

607
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be good enough to get

608
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: you over the hump. But you know, the Commanders are

609
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: sort of stuck in quarterback purgatory. They've got six million

610
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: dollars to spend. They need somebody to fill that spot.

611
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 1: It's but they can't really go hog while old and

612
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: spend a lot of money. So Garoppolo might be sort

613
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: of that budget piece for them this year. And you're right,

614
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have to change the color as a whole

615
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: lot kind of similar shades of of red and gold

616
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: for Jimmy Garoppolo. That's it. That's a quarterback match game.

617
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: Hopefully these teams in quarterbacks find happiness together wherever they

618
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: end up, wherever it may be. You know, the interesting

619
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Speaker 1: part about this, Mike, is there's going to be a

620
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: lot of teams that are sort of left out in

621
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: the lurch because there aren't really enough quarterbacks free agency

622
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: free agency wise to really make an impact I think

623
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: across the league. And when you look at the draft,

624
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: there are a couple of guys at the top of

625
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: the draft in Bryce Young and c J. Stroud that

626
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: looked like they could come in and be impact players.

627
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: There are more teams out there that need quarterbacks and

628
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 1: there are quarterbacks available. I feel like we're gonna get

629
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: to August and we're gonna look around and we're gonna

630
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: be like, there's some teams that have some bad quarterback

631
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: situations this year. I agree, And I wouldn't be surprised

632
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: if a team that like misses out in the draft

633
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: or whatever, if they bring in, like we a lot

634
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: of the names that we said earlier, like a Teddy

635
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: in a Minshoe or something like that. If you signed

636
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: two of these quarterbacks, Sam Donald, Mike White, any of

637
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: these guys, and you're like, hey, you two are just

638
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: competing for the job. We we've also, I think a

639
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: lot of teams are gonna be prioritizing backups more, especially

640
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: after what we've seen a lot of this season. So

641
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: uh that that just makes it harder for teams that

642
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: are looking for his starting quarterback. What it should do, Marcus,

643
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: is it should for fantasy make it much more popular

644
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: strategy to take a quarterback, you know, not wait until

645
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: the double digit rounds or something like that. Because when

646
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: we were doing that, it was like fifteen really good

647
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacks or something like that. Now I have trouble after

648
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: like the top eight, being like, this is a guy

649
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: I feel confident with as my starters. So I think, uh,

650
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a lot more people prioritizing

651
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. I do. And I think we're gonna

652
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: have the conversation about first round fantasy quarterbacks. I know

653
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: no one's going to do it, but I think it's

654
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: gonna be more interesting to talk about because I think

655
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: we're inching very close to that day when it becomes

656
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: more of a thing. We talked about out in the open.

657
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: I also think the forty Niners are very much going

658
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: to be in the market for a backup quarterback after

659
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: the way their season ended with so many guys getting hurt.

660
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: Methinks Kyle Shanahan is going to add some depth at

661
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: the position in the off season. We are gonna be

662
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: back in two and to keep the whole game show

663
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 1: theme going, here come back talk about some coaching moves

664
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Speaker 1: and what it might mean fantasy wise for three season.

665
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: That's next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So free

666
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: agency hasn't quite open for the players, but it's definitely

667
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: open for the coaches. The coaching Carol Cell has been

668
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: spinning for a while and big news happening earlier in

669
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Speaker 1: the week. The Denver Broncos have land one of the

670
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: top free agents on the market, so to speak. They

671
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: agree to a deal with the Saints to hire Sean

672
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: Payton as their head coach. They deal a couple of

673
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: picks away to New Orleans. They get Sean Payton and

674
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: a pick back in in return. But now, in the

675
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: past couple of years, the Broncos have given up three

676
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: first round picks in three second round picks in order

677
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: to bring in Russell Wilson and Sean Payton, So they

678
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: really are all in. But they also sort of have

679
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: to build with what they've got because they don't have

680
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: a ton of draft capital. So Russell Wilson being successful

681
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: is tantamount to this team being successful. To this team

682
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: being successful. He just came off maybe the worst season

683
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: of his career. As you look at this, what's more

684
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: likely that Russ is washed or that he just needs

685
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: a new head coach and a new offensive system to

686
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: get him going again. Um, I'm gonna say that that

687
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: Russ is washed. Um, but I say that all right.

688
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: It's a very small sample size lation in your voice,

689
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: by the way, because I want to make the case

690
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: against But I'm like, he's aging, he hasn't been the

691
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: same since he heard his hand. That this could just

692
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: be sunken costs that they can't get back. But I

693
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: do think it's worth pointing out, and it's small sample size.

694
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: Two games without uh Nathaniel Hackett last year, Russell Wilson

695
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: was over two fifty passing yards per game. He was

696
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: that two thirty with Hackett. UH he was averaging multiple

697
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: touchdowns per game. He threw twelve touchdown passes in fifteen

698
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: games with Nathaniel Hackett, and for fantasy players, he averaged

699
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: over twenty three fantasy points per game. Uh, that number

700
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: was way lower with with Nathaniel Hackett. And part of

701
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: me just thinks Nathaniel Hackett um isn't a very good

702
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: coach outside of his two years with Aaron Rodgers. His

703
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: claim to fame was that one weird season with the Jaguars,

704
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: which I mean, they were good, but they weren't like

705
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: their defense was what was carrying them. Uh. And as

706
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: someone who watched Nathaniel Hackett's offense with the Bills, I

707
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: never was like, this is a guy that I want

708
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: calling all of our plays. Um. I get it, he's

709
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: with the Jets now that's largely tied to Aaron Rodgers. Um.

710
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: But I just think Sean Payton is a much better coordinator,

711
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: play caller, all of that than n Daniel Hackett. So

712
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: I do think there's room for improvement with Russell Wilson,

713
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: I tweeted out yesterday, if he's going off the board

714
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: as a QB two, which I think he should, I

715
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: would be fine taking him, especially if I don't love

716
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: my QB one. It's just an upside flyer. But people

717
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: love hype. They become prisoners to hype. If Sean Payton

718
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: pushes Russell Wilson back to being a top twelve fantasy

719
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: quarterback in drafts, hard pass for me. I Yeah, I

720
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: just don't see that happening considering the way things went

721
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: last year. Although the conversation has been that Sean Payton

722
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: could potentially do for Russell Wilson what he did for

723
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: late career Drew Brees. When you saw Breese had sort

724
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: of lost that arm strength, wasn't the same quarterback he

725
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: was earlier, still found a way to be successful. And

726
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: now the idea is, I don't know that Russ can

727
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: completely work within a Drew Brees type offense, but Sean Payton,

728
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: in theory, could come up with something, some sort of

729
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: hybrid that helps make Russ better than he was. And

730
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: I think your point is valid when we saw at

731
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: the end of last year, after Hackett was gone, that

732
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: Russ looked better, he played better down this stretch. Now,

733
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: whether or not that was just him being free and

734
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: sort of freelancing, and whether or whether this means they

735
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: just need a completely different scheme I think remains to

736
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: be seen. Part of this though, is getting some of

737
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: those playmakers involved. We saw Jerry Judy make some big

738
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: plays down the stretch and kind of pop at the

739
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: end of the season. Courtland Sutton was sort of underwhelming

740
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: most of the year. Uh, Greg Dulst's with a nice

741
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: piece that we saw kind of come through midway through

742
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: the year. Are there guys that you look at that

743
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: feel like they can benefit the most from having Sean

744
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: Payton there? Jerry Judy for sure. Um Courtland Sutton, like

745
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: you said, he struggled down the stretch, But I just

746
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: think talent what and like um what their skill set is.

747
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: Sutton is a better downfield receiver. Judy is is better

748
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: at quickly getting open and creating separation. And if we're

749
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: talking about you know him kind of Sean Payton kind

750
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: of coming in and making this offense move very quickly,

751
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: like the Saint State, a lot of short passes. Maybe

752
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy slant boy two point oh. I I don't know,

753
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: but as of right now, he is the Broncos pass

754
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: catcher that I'm most excited for. But I think we'd

755
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: be remiss if we didn't mention Javonte Williams. Remember how

756
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: everyone was so hyped about him coming into this season,

757
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: and since he's entered the NFL, he's gonna be that

758
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: same player on the ground, but he has shown us

759
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: that he can be a asset in the passing game

760
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: as well. And if there was a coach who designed

761
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: more players for their running back in the passing and

762
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: than anyone, it was Sean Paynton with Alvin Kamara. Alvin

763
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: Kamara has not been the same sent Sean Payton left.

764
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Javonte wins is gonna give you eighty

765
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: catches four years in a row like Alvin Kamara did,

766
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: but he could certainly be a running back that catches

767
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: like sixties something passes this year, and if that's the case,

768
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 1: the overall RB one continues to be in play for him.

769
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of things that that

770
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: excite me about this. One is, as you mentioned, Javonte Williams,

771
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: and I don't expect him to be Alvin Camara, at

772
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: least a one to one comparison to Alvin Camara, but

773
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: he can catch the football, and You're right, there's a

774
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: coach now that can scheme those things up for him.

775
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: The other thing that has me sort of excited is

776
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: what it could be for Greg Dulcich. Again, I'm not

777
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and tell you that Greg Dulcich is

778
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: going to be the reimagining of Jimmy Graham. But you

779
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: saw in Sean Payton a coach that figured out how

780
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: to make his tight end a relevant part of the

781
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: passing game. And you can even go back before Jimmy

782
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: Graham and talk about Marcus Colston who was drafted originally

783
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: as a tight end and sort of transition to being

784
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: a big wide receiver. But it proved is that Sean

785
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: Payton knows what to do with the position and you've

786
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: got an athletic guy in Greg Dulcinch. So I'm not

787
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and tell you that Greg Dulcich is

788
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: gonna be Jimmy Graham. I'm not gonna say that you

789
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: should go out and spend like a you know, the

790
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: fifth round draft pick on the guy. But it is

791
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: reason to be more excited about what his upside can

792
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: be in that offense. So definitely something to talk about,

793
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on. By the way, and

794
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: and Ryan Dennis producing the show, did they put this

795
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: in the slack and in the chat if nobody drafts

796
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: russ in redrafts, right, do you do you take him

797
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: kind of as the backup to your number one. Let's

798
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: say you grab a number one guy that you kind

799
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: of aren't really excited about, would you take rest as

800
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: your second option? Yeah, yeah, I certainly would, because I

801
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: do like everything that I like. I will admit I

802
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: think we overrated the Broncos playmakers as an industry. But

803
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: like Jerry Judy is still a good wide receiver, Courtland

804
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: Sutton is still a big playmaker. They're gonna get Javonte

805
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: Willie is back. Uh that Greg Doltic, like you said,

806
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: it is useful, Like there's weapons there. Now you're gonna

807
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: put in arguably a better system and one that could

808
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: likely fit Russell Wilson's skill said better. And I think

809
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: that is a thing that we overlook as well. Like

810
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett is a coach that you need to fit

811
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: his system, and he even said at the start of

812
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: last year when they were struggling, he was like, it's

813
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: a complicated system. It's gonna take time. It took Aaron

814
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: Rodgers time. And my thing is always like coaches that

815
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: try to fit square pegs in two round holes are

816
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: bad coaches because if you need the perfect talent to win,

817
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: anyone can do that. But if you if you're a

818
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: coach that can make your offense fit your players and

819
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: you could be flexible with it, I think that's the

820
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: sign of a good coach. And Sean Payton has already

821
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: shown us, Hey, he could win with a strong arm

822
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: quarterback like Breeze when he was young, he could win

823
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: with an aging quarterback who's losing that arm strength. So

824
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: I do think it is a much better fit and

825
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: it leads to much more upside. Definitely a lot more

826
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: reason to be optimistic, but I all so suspect that

827
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: we're all going to be a lot more cautious when

828
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: it comes to drafting Broncos. Down in Carolina, the Panthers

829
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: hired Frank Reich as their head coach. He wasn't out

830
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: of work very long after getting let go by the Colts.

831
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,479
Speaker 1: Didn't take long for him to get a job down

832
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: there in Carolina. One of the things he talked about

833
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: in his introductory press conference was what they do at quarterback,

834
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: and he was very noncommittal about what they do, whether

835
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: they stick with the guys they have, although that seems

836
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: unlikely whether or not they go out and try to

837
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: make a splash and free agency, and we just played

838
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: the quarterback match game and suggested maybe Daniel Jones head

839
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: down south to Charlotte, or if they go out and

840
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: find somebody in the draft, and they really didn't tip

841
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: their hand one way or another just yet for you,

842
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: what should Carolina's top priority be this offseason? I suspect

843
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: quarterback is what you will say. And if so, what's

844
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: the best way to address it? I think quarterback is

845
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: uh the and and it's been for years. Like the Panthers,

846
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: if they had a better quarterback last year, they run

847
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: away with that division like the rest of their roster

848
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: is sound. Um. I think what they should do is

849
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: they should use both free agency and the draft because

850
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna get Lamar, Daniel Jones or

851
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: Gino Smith. And after that there's no one that you

852
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: would really break the bank to get. But you could

853
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: bring in, say keep Sam Donald or bringing a Gardner Minshew,

854
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: a bridge quarterback, someone like that. Jacoby Brissette works as well,

855
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: any of those bridge type quarterbacks. And then at nine

856
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: I would draft Anthony Richardson. I think he is a project.

857
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: I get it. Uh, he's more NFL ready than Malik

858
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: Willis was. Um I'm not in love with Richardson because, um,

859
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: a lot of his throws to me looked like there's

860
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: just a lot of air under it, and that works

861
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: in like he like kind of floats them in and

862
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: that works in college. I'm a little skeptical, but the

863
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: upside is sky high and if he can put it

864
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 1: all together, he could be your French quarterback for a decade.

865
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: And I trust Frank Reich more than other coaches when

866
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: it comes to developing young quarterbacks, like the in Philly,

867
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz played his best ball with Frank Reich, and

868
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: when Reich left, it wasn't the same for Wentz. And

869
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: he really never got that opportunity in Indie because they

870
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: always were just bringing in old vets who were, you know,

871
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: going to the Colts before they got sent out to pasture.

872
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: He never really got to take a young quarterback and

873
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: develop him. So I think he deserves that opportunity. And

874
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: I think Richardson at nine is very realistic because I think,

875
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: like you said, young Stroud and even will Levis, I

876
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: think they're all gonna be off the board by nine,

877
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: but Richardson very well could make it to them. That's

878
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: that was the other name that I was like, you know,

879
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: does Will Levis last that long to get to number nine?

880
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: And probably not, especially if you have other teams maneuvering

881
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: to get up high. The thing that maybe throws a

882
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: wrench in Carolina's plans is the fact that the Bears

883
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: at number one probably aren't going to take a quarterback,

884
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: and if they trade out, then that means that the

885
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: top three quarterbacks could be off the board well before

886
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: it gets to the Panther's pick at number nine. But

887
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is an intriguing prospect, and I do think

888
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: your your strategy of sort of working the draft, working

889
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: free agency is probably what the Panthers are going to

890
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: have to do. So that that very well means it

891
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 1: could be a couple of years before they find their guy.

892
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: But you know what, they sort of have the same

893
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: situation as the Bucks in the sense that nobody in

894
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: that division is ready to take off. So as long

895
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: as you can get some competent quarterbacking doesn't have to

896
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 1: be special, just has to be competent, and that could

897
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: be enough to get you into the postseason next year

898
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, just down the road from we're we're

899
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: both sitting and cross the street from our actual We're

900
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: not in our office today. By the side, note, we

901
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: got booted out of our our I'm just gonna rank

902
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: here for a second. You know, we have our little

903
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: fantasy lounge and we'd like to do shows from and Florida.

904
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: And I decided to be nice and talk to other

905
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: people about how special a spot it is. And then

906
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: next thing we know, we take a week off, we

907
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: find ourselves like kicked out of our own home. We're

908
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: doing We're doing a pod from our We're not happy

909
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: about it. If you can't tell, you know, I mean,

910
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: it's just like we had spot. It was all cozy,

911
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: we had decorated in the way we liked, and then

912
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: all of a sudden we show up in people's laundry

913
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: or hanging from the bath town like I don't understand

914
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: ye Anyway, the Chargers they hired a new offensive coordinator.

915
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: It's Kellen Moore who was let go by the Cowboys, which,

916
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: by the way, it's surprised me to see the Cowboys

917
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: make the move in the first place, considering how much

918
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: everybody talked about More as being a head coaching candidate,

919
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys decided to sever ties with Kellen Moore

920
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: and he barely had time to get a cup of

921
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: coffee before the Chargers brought a band and hired him

922
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: as their new offensive coordinator. Joe Lombardi was the subject

923
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: of a lot of criticism from fans from fantasy folks

924
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: about how they sort of limited Justin Herbert in that

925
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: passing game bringing in Kellen more though, how much does

926
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: this change what you expect out of the Chargers offense

927
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: next year? I think this was a great higher Um.

928
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about the Chargers offense. I will admit

929
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: I was super excited about them last year as well.

930
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: Kind of swung and missed a little there, but that's

931
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: not because of a lack of talent. Like Justin Herbert

932
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: one of the bright young stars at the quarterback position.

933
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: We know the receivers with Allen and Williams are loaded.

934
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler is great out of the backfield there. What

935
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: I didn't like was Joe Lombardi had Justin Herbert playing

936
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: like he was a nood alarmed quarterback. Like uh. The

937
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: Chargers had the third lowest air yards per throw in

938
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: the NFL, or Justin Herbert was the third lowest, And

939
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy has an arm like a Mahomes

940
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 1: and a Josh Allen and what are we doing here?

941
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: I do think we need a little bit of a

942
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: revamp with with the offense. I love their pieces that

943
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: they have. The one thing that they're missing, in my opinion,

944
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: is a speedy field stretcher who could He doesn't need

945
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: to be someone great, but just the third wide receiver

946
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: who could stretch the field take a little bit of

947
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: safety attention away because Mike Williams has more of that

948
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: contested catch guy downfield. But Lombardi and with something that

949
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: me and you've spoken about a lot mark is like

950
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler should be a compliment in the passing game.

951
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: It should be like, all right, you're worried about our

952
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: receivers beating you downfield, We'll just dump it off to

953
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler and he'll get his Last year kind of

954
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: felt like it was a staple and like that was

955
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: the play that they were designing up and like, all right,

956
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep throwing the ball to Austin Ekeler. As

957
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: our first option, and it just didn't really make a

958
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: lot of sense. The thing I love though, with Kellen Moore,

959
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: and he was the OC for the Cowboys in four

960
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: years and the three seasons that Dak Prescott was healthy,

961
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: they were twice, all three of them they ranked in

962
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: the top six in scoring and twice they finished first

963
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: in yards. And what I really love is that he

964
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: showed flexibility as a play caller as well. Like prior

965
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: to this past season, the Cowboys were a past first

966
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: offense with Dak and Amari and Lamb and Gallop. This

967
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: season they completely changed it up. We're not even in

968
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: the top half of the league in past attempts and

969
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: they just were running the ball and do doing it

970
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: in different ways, using Tony Poller to making him a

971
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: feature of this offense. So to me, more is a

972
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: bright young coordinator who will know how to get the

973
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: most out of his offense. I think this was the

974
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: higher that the Chargers really needed to make in order

975
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: to take that offense to the next level. For me,

976
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: it's as simple as and you touched on it. Will

977
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: they take the wraps off justin Herbert and allow him

978
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: to push the ball down field and it is sort

979
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: of mind boggling to see how low his air yards

980
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: per attempt were last year, and especially when you compare

981
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: it to Dak Prescott, who was on the upper end

982
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: of that scale among NFL quarterbacks. So will they take

983
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: the wraps off of Justin Herbert and let him throw

984
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: and it does as you mentioned, sort of, I think

985
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: depend on the Chargers going on and adding speed to

986
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: their wide receiver corps. They need that guy who can

987
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: back off some safety, take the top off the defense,

988
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: and make some plays down field. Keenan Allen is great,

989
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: He's not that guy. Mike Williams, as you mentioned, is

990
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: a contested catch guy. What sort of concerns me is

991
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: that I think in a lot of ways it may

992
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: be some more of the same. Kellen Moore not a

993
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: guy who uses a lot of pre snap motion. Didn't

994
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: use a ton of play action. In fact, use less

995
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: play action than the Chargers did last year. Maybe that

996
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: has to do with you know, l A and not

997
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: feeling like they could run the ball effectively. Though I

998
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: know that you know folks who who sort of do

999
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: this analysis tell you that you don't need to have

1000
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: an effective run game in order to have an effective

1001
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: play action games, so I'd like to see more of

1002
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: that in involved in the offense. But if if Kellen

1003
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: Moore is gonna have the attitude of effort, let's just

1004
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, let's just take our shots down field, then

1005
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm all in on this. But if he decides he

1006
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: wants to sort of be conservative, uh, play it underneath,

1007
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: use Austin Ekeler again kind of as a focal point

1008
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: of the passing game, then then I worry about it.

1009
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: But I'm going to keep an open mind. I'm going

1010
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: to be opt mystic about this. I'm going to hope

1011
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: that Justin Herbert looks like the guy we thought we

1012
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: were drafting last year when it turns out we were

1013
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: instead settled when they checked down Charlie guy. So hopefully

1014
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore brings that with him when he comes from

1015
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: Dallas to Los Angeles. Uh, we're gonna be some more

1016
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: coaching higher. I'm sure we're gonna have penty more to

1017
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: talk about this because there's still some vacancies out there

1018
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: that are going to happen. I know dmko Ryan's has

1019
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: been hired in Houston. Um, they have so much to

1020
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: fix that. I don't I don't think I don't think

1021
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a quick fix for DMKO Ryan's I

1022
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: wish him the best. I wish you'd stay in San Francisco,

1023
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: but that's me being selfish, but it's in terms of

1024
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: his career what he can do. I wish him the best.

1025
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of work that needs to be

1026
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: done there in Houston. Uh. How's the packing looking? Uh?

1027
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: Not great? Like I have a whole Luckily, our apartment

1028
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: now was pretty small, so I don't have a whole

1029
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: bunch to pack, like, but I know it's gonna be,

1030
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: like you said, I'm going to say that, and then

1031
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like, like later after we finish this, I'm

1032
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: gonna start packing up like stuff that I have in

1033
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: my closet. I'm probably gonna find a bunch of stuff

1034
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: that I'm like, why do I still have this? Uh So, yeah,

1035
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: that'll That's not what I'm looking forward to. I I

1036
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: keep saying it. I kind of wish I could just

1037
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: like fast forward a couple of weeks and be kind

1038
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: of in the new place and already settled. The good

1039
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: news is, once you've packed it all up and moved it,

1040
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: you gotta unpack it and put it in places in

1041
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: the new department so that that's gonna be a good time.

1042
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: Good Will is your friend, just letting you know that

1043
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: right now. Also, you guys are all You guys are

1044
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: all our friends for hanging out and listening to us.

1045
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: We certainly appreciate it. That we'll be back with you

1046
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: again next week as we get ready for the Super Bowl.

1047
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 1: That'll do it, though, for this edition of the NFL

1048
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Podcast, a happy, safe, and healthy, do good

1049
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: and live well. Good luck on your move, Floria the

1050
00:51:48,560 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: rest of you. We'll talk to you next week. War

1051
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:10,720
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