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Speaker 1: How you doing, man, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good.

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Speaker 1: How's everything?

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Speaker 7: Everything is wonderful? You know.

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Speaker 6: I want to touch on something right now, which people

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Speaker 6: I think they just roll over. Okay, they had two

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Speaker 6: decent football games, they say decent, but at least big

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Speaker 6: name players, big name schools USC over San Jose State

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Speaker 7: Ja Dame rolling over Navy yesterday.

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Speaker 6: And my question is this because you played in the pros,

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Speaker 6: You've been there, done that five years. In the NFL,

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Speaker 6: they have preseason games in the NFL. We'll get it

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Speaker 6: into that momentarily, you know. And now they're down to

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Speaker 6: three and honestly, they don't mean squat except they're basically interviews,

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Speaker 6: they're tryouts. How Come they don't have preseason games in college?

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Speaker 6: You know, if it's that important in the NFL, how

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Speaker 6: come no one does it in college.

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Speaker 7: It's kind of overlooked, right.

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Speaker 1: It is overlooked.

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Speaker 8: And there's been a push where college coaches have talked

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Speaker 8: about wanting to have scrimmages or jamborees where they could

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Speaker 8: some work because the college game is so unpredictable to

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Speaker 8: really have until you start playing games, and so without

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Speaker 8: having those games, it's just so much uncertainty. You just

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Speaker 8: don't know. It takes a while for you guys to

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Speaker 8: should be able to have some preseason games, play some

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Speaker 8: small schools.

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Speaker 1: So for instance, if.

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Speaker 8: You're Alabama, why can't you play North Alabama or South

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Speaker 8: Alabama and just kind of gets some of them.

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Speaker 6: Oh the regular season, they're on the schedule anyway, right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, like play some of those guys, have a scrimmage

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: And maybe I'm just speculating over you, but maybe the

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Speaker 6: but certainly if it's a preseason exhibition, it wouldn't count anyway.

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Speaker 8: It wouldn't count anyway. And that's why those teams are

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Speaker 8: right for an upset early. See, when it's the first

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Speaker 8: don't know what you have until you play against an opponent,

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Speaker 8: and so that's the perfect time. If you are a

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Speaker 1: As you get later in the year, we're less likely

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Speaker 8: You know who your team is, you know who the

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Speaker 8: get down with the team that they have. So that's

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Speaker 8: why you don't do it. But it's something that has

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Speaker 7: I can't believe that.

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Speaker 6: I can't believe that you played in the NFL five

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Speaker 7: I love that. I mean, we're on the same page

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Speaker 6: You make me feel good. You made me feel like

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Speaker 6: I know what I'm talking about. Let me go one

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Speaker 6: around pretty good. You know, they talk about preseason games

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Speaker 6: it's their tryout. It's a job interview basically. But taking

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Speaker 6: my take is this, I think winning and they say

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Speaker 6: it doesn't count. I think winning's important. I think to

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Speaker 6: You got to know that you got to get there

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Speaker 6: I think winning means something in preseason to know how

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Speaker 6: to win. Mike Crazy, you've been there for five years

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Speaker 8: It is important. Yeah, it's important in terms of how

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Speaker 8: how you go about winning. So you hear people talk

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Speaker 8: it doesn't mean anything. Doesn't translate, but it really does

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Speaker 8: depending on how your team executes.

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Speaker 1: If they're winning because.

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Speaker 8: They're dominating early in the game, when their ones are playing,

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Speaker 1: Now, if you're doing.

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Speaker 8: But you said the foundation for your culture doing the preseason,

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Speaker 8: you talk about winning and creating habits and all those things,

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Speaker 8: to win, those things translate.

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Speaker 1: So it does matter.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't guarantee that because you go four and oh

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Speaker 1: It's important. I think it's very important.

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Speaker 6: Are you telling me right now that I am two

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Speaker 6: and oh with Bucky Brooks? I said two things that

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Speaker 7: In your mind.

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Speaker 6: You say, you know, he kind of makes a little sense.

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Speaker 6: I'm two and oh. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 8: Well, Andy, it is the preseason, so now we'll see.

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Speaker 8: We'll see how this translates to the regular season if

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna roll a little bit. Okay, now let's get

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Speaker 6: On Friday night, I believe it was he was traded

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Speaker 6: What went wrong, Bucket Brooks. What went wrong with Trey

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Speaker 1: A few different things went wrong.

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Speaker 8: Trey Lance might have been overvalued by the scouting community,

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Speaker 8: The buzz was around Trey Lance after he had a

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Speaker 8: Trey Lance is maybe more talented than both of those guys.

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Speaker 8: Trey Lance had I think it was twenty eight touchdowns,

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Speaker 8: won a national title. He was a different style of quarterback,

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Speaker 8: had a lot of influence the.

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Speaker 1: Way scouts looked at him.

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Speaker 8: He gets to San Francisco, he's playing behind Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 8: He didn't play his final season due to COVID. So

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Speaker 8: that's two years where he goes without playing and you

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Speaker 1: It just didn't work out.

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Speaker 7: Where is that guy?

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Speaker 1: Everyone is accountable for it.

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Speaker 8: It becomes a team decision when you make that kind

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Speaker 1: Those same people should be.

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Speaker 6: And what does that mean for a school like in

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Speaker 6: I hear what you're saying. There we go, he's Bucket Brooks.

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Speaker 6: Get him on Twitter, you call him Twitter? You want

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Speaker 6: Is it is Twitter?

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Speaker 7: Right? Do we still call it Twitter? Yes?

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Speaker 6: Okay, at Bucket Brooks or at Andy Ferman FSR. Mike

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Speaker 6: We've got bottom barrel betting on our number two and

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Speaker 6: And Bucky Brooks are one thing. I got to tell you.

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Speaker 1: The worst injury ever had was a Parsley torn ACL.

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Speaker 7: I never played the game.

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Speaker 8: Depending on how viol and how physical the game was

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Speaker 8: that Sunday, it's hard to recover. That is the reality

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Speaker 8: of the situation. It takes a while for your body recover.

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Speaker 8: But you try and sell it to the players. If

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Speaker 8: we can get through this short week, the grind of

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Speaker 8: having two games and ten or eleven days, we get

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Speaker 8: an extended weekend and you have more rest time.

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Speaker 1: That's all. But it's hard.

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Speaker 7: It really is.

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Speaker 6: Now a big question I think talking about Denver in

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Speaker 6: the Broncos. Can you have a Super Bowl winning head

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Speaker 6: coach like Sean Payton with a Super Bowl winning quarterback

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Speaker 6: like Russell Wilson. Can they mesh? Can they come together?

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Speaker 6: Can Denver be successful? And then why did Sean Payton

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Speaker 6: out of the blue take a shot at the former

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Speaker 6: Denver coach, Nathaniel Hockett. My theory was that he kind

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Speaker 6: of wanted to give Russell Wilson some confidence, saying that

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Speaker 6: it wasn't entirely your fault, Russell, you got a bad

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Speaker 6: head coach, and that's why you guys had such a

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Speaker 6: poor season.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, there is some of that where he's trying to

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Speaker 8: shield his quarterback, trying to build him back up to

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Speaker 8: give him a chance to have success.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what it looks like when.

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Speaker 8: Russell plays, though, because Sean Payton's gonna coach him hard,

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Speaker 8: and if Russell doesn't play well, he's gonna be accountable

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Speaker 8: for his actions.

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Speaker 6: You know what do you think though, I mean, can

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Speaker 6: he come back? I just don't think it's the same

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Speaker 6: Russell Willilson as it was in the past. I mean,

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Speaker 6: it's just a different guy. You know, the body has

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Speaker 6: gone through a lot. He got sacked a lot last year.

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Speaker 6: His touchdowns about sixteen touchdowns last year, passed the writing

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Speaker 6: about sixty percent. I just don't think it's the same guy.

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Speaker 8: It's not the same guy. It's gonna be harder for him.

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Speaker 8: He's not as athletic. He's beginning to see and feel

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Speaker 8: the pastors more than he's ever had.

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Speaker 1: It's hard for those guys to bounce back.

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Speaker 8: Once you are an older player, an older quarterback, you

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Speaker 8: don't like getting hit.

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Speaker 1: It changes the way that you play.

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Speaker 8: Russell has to stand in there and live in a

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Speaker 8: muddy pocket where bodies are falling around, and he has

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Speaker 8: to be willing to hold onto the ball that extra

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Speaker 8: chance to wait for his receiver to uncover to deliver it.

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Speaker 8: Is he still willing to do that because the great

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Speaker 8: ones do that. We'll see if Russell Wilson still has

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Speaker 8: that capacity all right.

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Speaker 6: Last year, the Denver Broncos had an NFL high sixty

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Speaker 6: three sacks. They were beaten the living you know what

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Speaker 6: out of Russell Wilson last year. So I got to

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Speaker 6: believe it's a confidence factor and look to fix that.

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Speaker 6: To change that, you got to beef up that offensive line.

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Speaker 6: Did Did Denver Broncos do anything at all to give

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Speaker 6: him some protection in the offseason?

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Speaker 8: They tried, I mean they've went and got Mike mclinchy.

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Speaker 8: They tried to upgrade the offensive line. They're trying to

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Speaker 8: fortify the running attack. So they can use more play action.

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Speaker 8: They can be a little more balanced on offense, so

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Speaker 8: you can't tee off on Russell Wilson in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: Don't know if it's enough. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: it's hard in the National Football League too.

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Speaker 8: I said, I guess, hold your quarterback's hand and to

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Speaker 8: make the game easy for him where he can do

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Speaker 8: it with his skills diminishing or deteriorating in front of

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Speaker 8: your eyes. Russell Wilson has to be able to take

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Speaker 8: some accountability for the way that he performs, and hopefully

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Speaker 8: he has prepared himself in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: He looks slimmer than he did a year ago.

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Speaker 8: It hasn't necessarily shown up in preseason play that he's

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Speaker 8: a better player or that he's ready to bounce back.

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Speaker 8: But you're hopeful that after four five weeks after he

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Speaker 8: learned Sean Payton's offense, he can get back into the

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Speaker 8: mix and find his group.

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Speaker 6: You know, Bucky, I would say this from an outside

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Speaker 6: of looking in. I don't think it's so much skill

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Speaker 6: set with Russell Wilson because I don't think he really

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Speaker 6: lost that much. I think what's going to help or

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Speaker 6: what hurts him out is his confidence factor. You know,

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Speaker 6: he's probably saying to himself at night, looking up at

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Speaker 6: the ceiling in bed, can I still do it?

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Speaker 7: Have I lost it? That's the thing right there.

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Speaker 8: Confidence, every confidence is everything, and that would be a

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Speaker 8: big part of the situation. Did Russell Wilson lose his

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Speaker 8: confidence and can his confidence be repaired? That's something that

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Speaker 8: Sean Payton can work on by seting them up for layups.

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Speaker 8: But Russell has to do a lot of deep digging

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Speaker 8: to make sure he maintains his confidence as a guy

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Speaker 8: who's been a perennial pro Bowl.

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Speaker 6: Let me get a little personal now with you, Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 6: You know you talk about confidence. You played on five

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Speaker 6: different teams and I don't know the situation you had,

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Speaker 6: trade cut, whatever it may be. What is it like

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Speaker 6: when you go from teammate to team B Because that's

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Speaker 6: a compun this factor too, because you gotta city yourself now.

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Speaker 6: I got to prove myself all over again to a

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Speaker 6: set of new coaches.

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Speaker 7: That's what you gotta do.

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Speaker 8: It's tough, very difficult, very difficult, depending on what the

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Speaker 8: circumstances were.

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Speaker 7: For me.

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Speaker 8: I was a guy that was drafted as a second

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Speaker 8: round pick. I get cut at the end of my

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Speaker 8: Now I get cut at the beginning of my second season.

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Speaker 8: So you begin to harbor the label of bus disappointment.

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Speaker 8: You go to your next team, and once you move

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Speaker 8: on from one team to the next, particularly when you've

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Speaker 8: been cut or traded, all that shine that was on

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Speaker 8: you as a coveted draft pick or price commodity. Think

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Speaker 8: about trade lance. The Cowboys aren't into trade lance for anything.

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Speaker 8: So if trade lance isn't up the stuff, it doesn't

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Speaker 8: cost them anything. They don't have any deep regrets about

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Speaker 8: making a move. They just move on. That's what happens

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Speaker 8: to you once you've been let. Oh, you're now at

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Speaker 8: the bottom of the ross, and you spend the rest

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Speaker 8: of your NFL life fighting to.

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Speaker 1: Kind of earn the respect back and also earn a

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Speaker 1: role that's a long term role for a team.

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Speaker 7: Amazing, it really is.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I just don't think the general public understands

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Speaker 6: how tough it is.

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Speaker 7: I mean it really not.

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Speaker 6: Just the physical part of it, but you know, the

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Speaker 6: going one on one I see these guys fighting for

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Speaker 6: their lives in practice, not not the mixed practices with

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Speaker 6: other teams, but their own teammates fighting because it's it's

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Speaker 6: a survival of the fittest.

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Speaker 7: That's what it is.

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Speaker 6: But the one thing I never understood is why a

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Speaker 6: guy would take a swing on somebody else with a

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Speaker 6: helmet on.

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Speaker 7: That I never got. I don't understand that.

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Speaker 6: But it's tough, and it really is.

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Speaker 1: It is a tough deal. And you are right.

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Speaker 8: You shouldn't take swings with people with helm's all because

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Speaker 8: the only person's gonna hurt is you.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna break a hand.

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Speaker 8: But cooler heads tend to prevail in those instances. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: but I wouldn't advise taking a swing at somebody who

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Speaker 6: There we go, he's Bucket Brooks, I mean affirming. This

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Speaker 6: is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready, now, there's

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Speaker 6: a trend at one position in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: There really is.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to tell you all about it. It's coming

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Speaker 6: up next right here in Fox But Sunday Live from

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Speaker 6: the Tirack dot Com studios.

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Speaker 9: But first, Nick Kope has all your sports all right,

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Speaker 9: thank you, guys. Let's stick in the NFL. The Raiders

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Speaker 9: are running back, Josh Jacobs agreeing to a one year

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Speaker 9: deal to end his holdout. It's worth up to twelve

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Speaker 9: million with incentives. Buccaneers Pro Bowl center Ryan Jensen placed

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Speaker 9: on injured.

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Speaker 7: Reserve with a knee injury.

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Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers made his debut in a Jets uniform last night.

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Speaker 9: He threw a touchdown pass to Garrett Wilson. Dolphins and

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Speaker 9: Jaguars cut their preseason game short after Miami receiver Daywood

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Speaker 9: Davis was carted off the field on a stretcher in

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Speaker 9: the fourth quarter and taken to a hospital. Dolphins later

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Speaker 9: announced he had movement in all his extremities. Cleveland Playing

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Speaker 9: Dealer reports Browns receiver Jaquem Grant may have suffered a

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Speaker 9: broken patella in his knee, which would knock him out

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Speaker 9: for the season. He's said to have an MRI today

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Speaker 9: to confirm. College football, couple of ranked teams participating Week zero.

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Speaker 9: Number six USC dominated the second half against San Jose

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Speaker 9: State and they win going away fifty six to twenty eight.

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Speaker 9: Number thirteen Notre Dame no issues against Navy forty two

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Speaker 9: to three. The final in Dublin. In baseball, red stop

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Speaker 9: the d Backs eight to seven and eleven innings. Since

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Speaker 9: final wildcard spot in the NL. Cubs ten six winners

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Speaker 9: the Brewers just keep on winning seven straight wins. They

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Speaker 9: edged the Padres on Saturday five to four, Philly's holding

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Speaker 9: out of the top wild card spot in the NL.

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Speaker 9: They cruise passed the Cardinals twelve to one. Braves won

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Speaker 9: again seven to three against the Giants, Red Sox over

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Speaker 9: the Dodgers eight to five. Rangers snapped their eight game

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Speaker 9: losing streak beating the Twins six to two, Mariners crushing

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Speaker 9: the Royals fifteen to two. Texas and Seattle still tie

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Speaker 9: totop the Al West. And in golf, we got the

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Speaker 9: final round of the Tour Championship coming up later today.

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Speaker 9: Victor Hovelin is six shots clear of the field at

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Speaker 9: twenty under. Now let's send it back to Andy Furman

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Speaker 9: and Bucky Brooks. Thank you so much for seeing about

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Speaker 9: an hour.

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Speaker 7: There we go.

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Speaker 6: Now here's an interesting question, does size really matter? We'll

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Speaker 6: get to that in just about a minute. He's Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 6: I'm Andy Furman. This is Fox Sports. Sunday a Fox

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Speaker 6: seven eight minutes for a now, and speaking of Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 6: let me tell everybody about how multi talented you are.

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Speaker 6: Play in the National Football League for five years. We're

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Speaker 6: a scout after that, okay, after that, a radio host

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Speaker 6: and a damn good one, knowledgeable with the game of football,

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Speaker 6: and also a writer for NFL dot com. You got

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Speaker 6: it all going for you. Really, you talk about the

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Speaker 6: hat trick twice. That's what you got, and you're right.

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Speaker 6: For NFL dot com. You had an interesting piece because

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Speaker 6: I read you every week comes out on Fridays, an

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Speaker 6: interesting piece on wide receivers in the NFL well and

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Speaker 6: their size. And you mentioned to the fact that receivers

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Speaker 6: on the five, ten and one eighty five are making

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Speaker 6: impacts in the NFL. And I should have known that

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Speaker 6: twenty years ago, thirty years ago, maybe more. Maybe I

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Speaker 6: could have got a shot. Who knows, But why are

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Speaker 6: they making that kind of an impact.

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Speaker 8: The game has always been cyclical. There's always revolves in cycles.

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Speaker 8: And as these teams around the National Football League started

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Speaker 8: to get bigger cornerbacks because they wanted to match up

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Speaker 8: with the big wide receivers that were trickling into the league,

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Speaker 8: the dk Metcalfs and those type, what we found the

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Speaker 8: quick guys have an advantage now, I mean the smaller

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Speaker 8: guys have an advantage because of their quickness, their route renderability,

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Speaker 8: and as you begin to play the matchup game, coaches

661
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Speaker 8: are increasingly taking advantage of these quick guys getting in

662
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Speaker 8: and out of their breaks and creating separation and doing

663
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Speaker 8: these things. It's a really remarkable thing to watch. And

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Speaker 8: it's a trend that will continue because I mean, it's

665
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Speaker 8: always moved, counter move, offense, defense, and so as the

666
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Speaker 8: trends continue to go back and forth, we went from

667
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Speaker 8: being a passing league from a running league, and back

668
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Speaker 8: and forth. It changes the personnel that people covet. Right now,

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Speaker 8: it appears that there's a move to bring back the

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Speaker 8: little guy because of the speed and quickness advantages they

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Speaker 8: may have.

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Speaker 7: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 6: Me, Darius Davis on the charges is five to eight

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Speaker 6: and one sixty five. I mean, come on, here's a

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Speaker 6: kid that probably was bullied in school and always playing

676
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Speaker 6: in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Think about that, right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy to think that that's where

679
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Speaker 8: we are now. But that's where we are, and is

680
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Speaker 8: the reality of the situation is you have these little

681
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Speaker 8: guys who can make big time plays and people are

682
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Speaker 8: finding ways to take advantage of it.

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Speaker 6: It amazes me really, But you know what you talk

684
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Speaker 6: about the game, how it evolves. I mean, you know,

685
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Speaker 6: way back then, way back when. And I have to say,

686
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Speaker 6: and maybe I'm mistaken, I think the godfather of the

687
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Speaker 6: forward pass that it's a passing league right now. I'd

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Speaker 6: have to put my finger on Dan Marino. I think

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Speaker 6: he's the guy who changed the game into a heavy

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Speaker 6: duty passing league. Am I correct on that?

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Speaker 7: Maybe?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: They played a big He played a big part and

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Speaker 8: influence Hi because the game the way it was played

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Speaker 8: prior to Dan Marino, people weren't throwing the ball all

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Speaker 8: over the yard like that. I mean Don Shula, the

697
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Speaker 8: all time winner, uh was doing it with Jim Kick

698
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Speaker 8: and Larry Zack and Mercury Morris. You know, it wasn't

699
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Speaker 8: the Miami throw it around team that we became accustomed to.

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Speaker 1: Scene it with Dan Marino.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Dan Marino should get a lot of credit for

702
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Speaker 8: changing the game because his ability to come and impact

703
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Speaker 8: it as a thrower changed. It opened the minds of

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Speaker 8: offensive coordinators around the league.

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Speaker 6: Right and back in the day, the tight end basically

706
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Speaker 6: was a blocking position. Not many pass catching situations from

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Speaker 6: the tight end.

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Speaker 7: And look, I'm going way back.

709
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Speaker 6: Because I was a kid growing up in New York

710
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Speaker 6: City and I loved the New York Football Giants, the receivers.

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Speaker 6: I remember him like it was yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Dell Shoft.

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Speaker 7: There was a receiver, but number.

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Speaker 6: Eighty eight was a tight end, and I really liked him.

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Speaker 6: His name was Aaron Thomas, and he never caught a pass.

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Speaker 6: He was just a blocker, that's what he did.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the tied end, I mean it changed because that

718
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Speaker 8: would be the traditional what we call it, the y

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Speaker 8: tight end, hanging down, attached to the tackle, more of

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Speaker 8: aligneman than a wide receiver. The game has changed because

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Speaker 8: you see the flex tight ends, the guys like Travis

722
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Speaker 8: Kelce or a guy like Evan Ingram from the Jacksonville

723
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Speaker 8: Jaguars more of a receiver than a blocker. But the

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Speaker 8: league has a place for both of those guys. We're

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Speaker 8: seeing all sizes, shapes, colors. They come in a bunch

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Speaker 8: of different ways, and the smart offensive coordinator is able

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Speaker 8: to use their skill sets.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and basically, you talk about the league change the

729
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Speaker 6: game changing. The position of full back basically is like

730
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Speaker 6: a dinosaur. Only several teams really have a fullback. And

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Speaker 6: now the running back position is being I gotta believe

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Speaker 6: that's going to change. I think we're going to see

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Speaker 6: that after this year. I thank goodness Josh Jacobs he's

734
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Speaker 6: back in the fold. And guys say they're going to

735
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Speaker 6: hold out. How could you possibly hold out and not

736
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Speaker 6: want to accept that money? Right, no matter how much

737
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Speaker 6: money it may be, right the holdout situation and owners

738
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Speaker 6: know that, they know they're going to come back. But

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Speaker 6: I'm just glad that Josh Jacobs is back.

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Speaker 7: Amazing.

741
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Speaker 6: The guy led the league in rushing and he had

742
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Speaker 6: to hold out to get a contract. It's crazy, but

743
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Speaker 6: that's what they're doing to the running back position.

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Speaker 1: There's a market value.

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Speaker 8: I'm the supply and demand and in every industry, That's

746
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Speaker 8: how it always works. You pay what you have to

747
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Speaker 8: pay based on what the market dictates, and for running

748
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Speaker 8: backs right now, ten to eleven million dollars is kind

749
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Speaker 8: of where that sweet spot is based on a traditional

750
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Speaker 8: running back who doesn't significantly impact the game as a receiver.

751
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Speaker 8: Christi McCaffrey, Alfricamar. The money they were able to get

752
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Speaker 8: is because they also have a significant impact on the

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Speaker 8: passing game. You have to be a receiver to be

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Speaker 8: able to get the big, big money that they all desire.

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Speaker 6: Look, but you can't tell me that the running back

756
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Speaker 6: position is going to be blown away, because I know

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Speaker 6: how important it is.

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Speaker 7: You know how important it is.

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Speaker 6: Look in the fourth quarter of a game, when you're leading,

760
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Speaker 6: all you want to do is run out the clock

761
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Speaker 6: and just give the ball in the belly of a

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Speaker 6: running back and let that clock go and let him

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Speaker 6: run the ball out. I mean, that's how important it is.

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Speaker 6: And I don't think they realize how how important the

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Speaker 6: running back position is. I think we're going to see

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Speaker 6: how important it is after this year. I think they

767
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Speaker 6: come back in the fold and they'll get what they deserve.

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Speaker 8: Maybe so, I mean, I don't know if they're ever

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Speaker 8: I don't know if it escalate to the point where

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Speaker 8: they get paid like wide receivers. Right now, the line

771
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Speaker 8: of demarcation is the twenty million dollar mark, and that

772
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Speaker 8: used to be old quarterback money. The only guys who

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Speaker 8: are receiving that kind of money are passers, pass rushers, playmakers,

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Speaker 8: many your wide outs, your pass protectors, and some defensive

775
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Speaker 8: tackles with pass rushing skills. That's it, Andy, nobody's there.

776
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Speaker 8: It's only two cornerbacks that make over twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 8: Everybody else is fitting for yourself. And we talk about

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Speaker 8: running backs being at ten or eleven million dollars. The

779
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 8: league is telling you what they think about the position

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Speaker 8: based on where those numbers are compared to the guys

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Speaker 8: that are making twenty plus.

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Speaker 6: But bucket, is the league telling you what they think

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Speaker 6: about the position? Or maybe there's not enough money to

784
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Speaker 6: go around because the quarterbacks are eating up so much

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Speaker 6: of it.

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Speaker 8: I mean, there's a lot of money to go around.

787
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Speaker 8: You just have to make decisions when you pay the quarterback.

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Speaker 8: Once you start paying the quarterback over fifty million dollars,

789
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Speaker 8: you have to make decisions on how you want to

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Speaker 8: build it around them.

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Speaker 1: And we are seeing.

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Speaker 8: The better the quarterback, the more they are trying to

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Speaker 8: allocate the resources for him so that that side of

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Speaker 8: the ball is great. And then we'll pay pass rushers.

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Speaker 8: You know, you pay two guys, two pass rushers on

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Speaker 8: your team. You may play one guy in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 8: When you have a marquee quarterback and you go and

799
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Speaker 8: get the two franchise wide receivers, you get the offensive line.

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Speaker 8: In those things, you can't can't pay everybody, and so

801
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Speaker 8: so many people fall in the crosshairs.

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Speaker 6: There we go, he's bucket Brooks. How many deffirming? This

803
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Speaker 6: is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. This is

804
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 6: gonna be great because it's time to ask the pro.

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Speaker 7: Who's the pro? Bucky Brooks? That's next? All right?

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Speaker 6: I love turn the music up. I love Stevie one.

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Speaker 6: There you kidding?

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Speaker 7: May I pay this?

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Speaker 6: I don't pay for a lot of things. I pay

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Speaker 6: to see Stevie and I did once. All right, here

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Speaker 6: we go, Bucky Brooks, Andy Fervan, this is Fox Sports

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Speaker 6: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio, well live from the Tyraq

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Speaker 6: dot Com studios. It is that time. It's time to

814
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 6: ask the pro. Ask Bucky Brooks. Because I want to

815
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Speaker 6: know the ins and outs of the National Football League.

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Speaker 7: Are we ready? Let's do it a little music? Maybe

817
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Speaker 7: perhaps there we go.

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Speaker 6: Now, the rumor has it bucky that Jonathan Taylor may

819
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Speaker 6: change teams to go to the Miami Dolphins. Their offense

820
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Speaker 6: basically is based on some speedy receivers Jalen Waddle and

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Speaker 6: Tyreek Hill. How would Jonathan Taylor change that Dolphins offense

822
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Speaker 6: with TUA and make it very.

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Speaker 8: Very difficult to defend because he would add the balance

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Speaker 8: where you can't just sell out to play coverage all

825
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Speaker 8: the time trying to double team Tyreek Hill, trying to

826
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Speaker 8: keep someone over the top of Jayden Water. With Johnathon

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Speaker 8: Taylor in the mix, you have put more bodies in

828
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Speaker 8: the box. That means more one on one coverage for

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Speaker 8: Waddle ink Healed on the outside. That's gonna be more

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Speaker 8: big plays. He would give them a huge He would

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Speaker 8: be a huge addition for them, add a different dimension

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Speaker 8: that could put them in the conversation as a title contender.

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Speaker 7: There we go.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I was looking at stats the other day and

835
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Speaker 6: I happened to notice that, believe it or not, Dak Prescott,

836
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Speaker 6: quarterback of Dallas and Kirk Cousins quarterback in Minnesota, basically

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Speaker 6: almost have similar statistics. So if you're a drafting guy

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Speaker 6: on your team, who would you take Kirk Cousins or

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Speaker 6: Dak Prescott?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a push. I would take Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 8: I believe we've seen Dak Prescott play at a higher

842
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 8: level than Kirk Cousins at times throughout his career. But

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Speaker 8: it's a push. They both are drafting and fordfront. Both

844
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 8: had very very similar careers. I can understand why you

845
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Speaker 8: could go either way.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think Dak Prescott maybe a little more athletic,

847
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Speaker 6: and watching Kirk Cousins on that Netflix thing, the quarterbacks

848
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Speaker 6: not that much, you know what I mean? I like him,

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Speaker 6: I like the guy, but you know it's not that athletic.

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Speaker 6: Can we move on? Eric the Enemy? I loved Eric

851
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 6: the Enemy when he played here in Cincinnati with the Bengals.

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Speaker 7: Good guy.

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Speaker 6: I think he finished third in the Heisman voting when

854
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 6: he played at Colorado. Why is this pushback right now?

855
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 6: When Washington has the new offensive coordinated, the players are

856
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 6: whining and crying that he wants he wants toughness out

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Speaker 6: of these guys.

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Speaker 7: Why are they doing this?

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Speaker 8: To Eric, they're doing it because a lot of guys

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Speaker 8: don't like to be held accountable for their performers.

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Speaker 1: He's loud, he's in your face.

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Speaker 8: He's going to demand certain things from his players, and

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Speaker 8: if it hasn't been that environment before, it can be difficult,

864
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Speaker 8: or it could be a tricky transition. They'll be fine,

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Speaker 8: and a lot of it will be determined a byt

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Speaker 8: how well they played. They played well, everyone will fall

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Speaker 8: in line and really heat the words that he's putting

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Speaker 8: out there.

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Speaker 6: He had a good win last night. Did they beat Cincinnati?

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Speaker 6: But it doesn't mean anything because nobody was playing. That's

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Speaker 6: another thing. I mean, these guys weren't even showing up

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Speaker 6: to the games. We'll get to that later.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 6: One coach that Bucky brought would love to play for,

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Speaker 6: and why one coach, and you can mention the name

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00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 6: that you really despised, that you hated, and why.

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Speaker 8: The one coach that I would love to play for

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00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 8: right now would be Mike Tomlin. Mike tomlind appears to

879
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 8: have it. The way he inspires his players, the way

880
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 8: that he holds them accountable, success that he's had. I

881
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 8: would want to be a part of that. I don't

882
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 8: know if there's a coach that I despise that I've

883
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 8: had throughout my time, I would say there's some that

884
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 8: were challenging for other reasons. Tom Coughlin was a tough,

885
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 8: demanding coach, and it took me a while to understand.

886
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: The wisdom behind his methods.

887
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 8: We came to an agreement, though, because years later after

888
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 8: playing for me in Jacksonville, I apologize for a kind

889
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 8: of question why he would do certain things, because when

890
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 8: I became a high school coach, I utilized a lot

891
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 8: of the things that he did with us with the

892
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 8: Jaguars as a coach.

893
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 6: We got a couple of seconds left. Were you surprised

894
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 6: the amount of cussing these guys do? And did they

895
00:39:58,719 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 6: cuss when you played in college?

896
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 7: Coaches?

897
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 8: Coach Brown, Mack Brown in North Carolina did not allow

898
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 8: his coaches to curse at the player, So I am

899
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 8: a little bit surprised, But it.

900
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 7: Happens, all right, We'll continue on that. I want to

901
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 7: do that.

902
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 6: Okay, sophomore chicks for this player. Maybe we'll see that's

903
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 6: next on Fox.

904
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: Get your point across.

905
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 8: A lot of it depends on the makeup of the coach,

906
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 8: but you can be demanding and do all those other

907
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 8: things without using that kind of language. Some people it's

908
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 8: just a part of their DNA, like that's who they are.

909
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 8: They talk like that, they swear like a sailor and

910
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 8: those things.

911
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

912
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 8: I think as a player you can kind of tune

913
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 8: out all of that stuff and just filter through the

914
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 8: stuff that you need to make sure that you get

915
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 8: the message you hear about the intensity of the moment,

916
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 8: you bring the urgency.

917
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: But then you just kind of move on.

918
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 8: It doesn't have to be that environment sometimes that we

919
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 8: see on Hard Nows to these other shows.

920
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 6: Right, I want to talk quarterbacks with you for a second,

921
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 6: you know, and honestly, right now, one of the things

922
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 6: that really kind of took me off and done not

923
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 6: only Aaron Rodgers left and that's fine, I mean, do

924
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 6: what do you want to do? That's fun The way

925
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 6: he left, staying in that cave for a couple of

926
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 6: days and then he's beginning to get a shave off

927
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 6: his contract. He could have done that in Green Bay.

928
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 6: I don't know why he didn't want to do that

929
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 6: in Green Bay. See he ends up in the Jets.

930
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 6: But I wanted to ask you Bucky Brooks. You know,

931
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 6: rating the quarterbacks right now going into the season, where

932
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 6: would you put Aaron Rodgers? And who in your mind,

933
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 6: who's the number one quarterback in the National Football League?

934
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 8: So if I had to read Aaron Rodgers, I would

935
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 8: have him. Let's see, I think my top five would

936
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 8: be Pat Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts,

937
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 8: maybe Aaron Rodgers.

938
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: Six somewhere in that conversation.

939
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 8: You can give him credit for being a four time MVP,

940
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 8: but last year he didn't play great, so I'm more

941
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 8: likely to keep him just outside the top five, but

942
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 8: respect him as a top ten talent. He is wing

943
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 8: to play well for the Jets because he's engaged, he's motivated.

944
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 8: This is a legacy play for Aaron Rodgers if he

945
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 8: leaves the Jets in a better place than he inherited him.

946
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's an all timer.

947
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 8: And you think about what Broadway Joe has been able

948
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 8: to do just after winning.

949
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: One Super Bowl.

950
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 8: If Aaron Rodgers is able to get them there, make

951
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 8: them a premier contender while also helping Zach Wilson re

952
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 8: emerge as a franchise player.

953
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean they get me a statue. They put a

954
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: statue out in front of MetLife.

955
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're exactly right.

956
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 6: You know, you mentioned the Super Bowl, and the other

957
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 6: day they mentioned I think the veteran players who are

958
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 6: going to be on the ballot for the Hall of Fame,

959
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 6: and one of the names that was not mentioned. It

960
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 6: kind of got me in the gut a little bit.

961
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 6: Kenny Anderson, who played quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals. And

962
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 6: I think one of the things that hurts Kenny Anderson

963
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 6: on a national scale is the fact that he never

964
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 6: went to a Super Bowl. And I think that's wrong.

965
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 6: I mean, there are players who are tremendous players who

966
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 6: have not gone and won a Super Bowl or been

967
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 6: to a Super Bowl. I don't think it's fair. And

968
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 6: I think Kenny Anderson, a two time MVP, tremendous statistics

969
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 6: really almost the same, almost identical statistics as Kenny Stabler

970
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 6: the Rattler, and Kenny Anderson just for some reason can't

971
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 6: get through the door. And Canton, I mean, and I

972
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 6: know you follow Kenny Anderson, you know what kind of

973
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 6: player he was.

974
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: I do know the kind of player he was.

975
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 8: I remember as a kid watching Kenny Anderson with the

976
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 8: Bengals with because they had their name spelled out on

977
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 8: the helmet, the old school, the old school, and I

978
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 8: remember how how how controversial it was when they went

979
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 8: to the stripes on the helmet because we hadn't seen

980
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 8: anything as radical as that on a on an NFL helmet.

981
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 8: Kenny Anderson was a great player, did a lot of

982
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 8: good things in terms of you talked about two time MVP,

983
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 8: very prolific passer. It's just something sometimes with franchises, they

984
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 8: don't have that traditional pop and so because of that,

985
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 8: they have a harder time getting their guys into the

986
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 8: hello halls.

987
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 7: No, you're right.

988
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 6: I mean Anthony Munoz got in and I certainly deservedly so.

989
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 6: But you know, finally Ken Riley got in this year.

990
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 6: But it's a shame he got in after he passed

991
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 6: and that was terrible as his son and his late wife.

992
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 6: The wife was there as well and Ken, but it

993
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 6: hurt me that Kenny couldn't be there to accept. If

994
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 6: that's story for another day. You talk about quarterbacks. The

995
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 6: second year quarterback with the Pittsburgh Steelers, Kenny Pickett. Coach

996
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin says he's been solid. He talks about leadership. Now,

997
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 6: I want to know it's just like just coaches talk

998
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 6: what makes a good leader? Are there leaders at every

999
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 6: position in the NFL? Where you are leader, Bucky Brooks,

1000
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 6: I want to know what that means.

1001
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: Well at the quarterback position.

1002
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 8: When he's talking about leadership, he's talking about the ability

1003
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 8: to have everyone rally behind them, and.

1004
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: It's something that is earned. You can't give it to him.

1005
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 8: And that respect where someone wants to follow you comes

1006
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 8: from the way they watch you work, the way they

1007
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 8: watch you interact with your teammates, the way that you perform,

1008
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 8: the way that you handle poor performances, how you bounce back.

1009
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: All of those things matter.

1010
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 8: I mean, it's no different than someone who's leaning you

1011
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 8: at a different occupation. You want your leader to have

1012
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 8: a high level of experience and expertise so they can

1013
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 8: solve the problems. Your quarterback has to be able to

1014
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 8: do all those things and solve the problems. And what

1015
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 8: he's done as an older player, because remember he stayed in.

1016
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: College four or five years. Then he makes his way.

1017
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: The maturity it's not too big for him. That's why

1018
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: he should have success.

1019
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 6: You know, it's funny because I was looking at the

1020
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 6: stats after Mike Thomlins said that I think Mike Thomas

1021
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 6: a hell of a coach. I think it's a Hall

1022
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 6: of fame and no doubt he's a great coach. But

1023
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 6: in the preseason he went six for seven in the

1024
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 6: first game for seven of the yards and a touchdown,

1025
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 6: second game three for four forty yards a touchdown, and

1026
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 6: four for four with eighty.

1027
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 7: Six yards in the last game.

1028
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 6: Obviously, Pittsburgh won all three, But I don't understand how

1029
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 6: you can make that judgment when he just did so

1030
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 6: little in those games.

1031
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 8: I mean, really, yeah, it's hard to make the judgment,

1032
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 8: but a lot of it is on who's in control,

1033
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 8: who's calling the players, who dictating the terms, who's making

1034
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 8: sure that you get your prime opportunities. Sometimes you have

1035
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 8: to look beyond the box score to see a player's impact.

1036
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 8: There's so many different ways to impact the game, and

1037
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 8: you have to look at the tape and see how

1038
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 8: they do it. That's the way that I would do it.

1039
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 8: You have to go beyond the numbers, and so that's

1040
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 8: why he has a compelling case.

1041
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 6: Okay, I understand, and look, even a fool would know

1042
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 6: this that you can't win in the NFL without a quarterback. However,

1043
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 6: I never thought that Rock Party in San Francisco would

1044
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 6: be what you'd call a franchise quarterback. But they got

1045
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 6: so much great personnel surrounding him, both on the offensive

1046
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 6: and defensive side. They could probably get away with a

1047
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 6: guy like Purdy who just doesn't make a mistake. That's

1048
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 6: what you got to do. Can that be done with

1049
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 6: Pickett in Pittsburgh? I mean, can they win with him?

1050
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 6: Can he be the franchise quarterback?

1051
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: He absolutely can be the franchise quarterback. He has game.

1052
00:46:59,040 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he has big time game.

1053
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 8: If you watched him in the preseason, you've seen his

1054
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 8: game jump a notch this year.

1055
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, you absolutely can do it.

1056
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 8: You absolutely can win with a guy like that performing

1057
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 8: at a high level.

1058
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: And the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1059
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 8: Have done a great jobs around him with I mean,

1060
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 8: premier talent Deontay Johnson as a receiver, George Pickens looking

1061
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 8: like he's fine, Pat Friarmurth, Naja Harris in the backfield,

1062
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 8: they upgrade the offensive line. He's ready to go. He

1063
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 8: will make a major jump this year. If he makes

1064
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 8: that jump to Stales are dark riskintender?

1065
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 7: Interesting now? Last day.

1066
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 6: He started twelve games passed Rover with twenty four hundred yards,

1067
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 6: seven touchdowns, nine interceptions. Is going to be really interesting

1068
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 6: because on opening night, Opening Day, that of September the tenth,

1069
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 6: the Steelers play the forty nine Ers. That's going to

1070
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 6: be one heck of a battle, it really will, And

1071
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 6: I'd like to see the Steelers win that game. But again,

1072
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 6: if I'm rooting for Cincinnati and I'm in Cincinnati right now,

1073
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 6: that would be tough because it's a divisional game. But

1074
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 6: you thok about quarterbacks if they could be you know,

1075
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 6: franchise quarterbacks. I'm rooting for Eric the Enemy because I

1076
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 6: think it's.

1077
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 7: A big deal for him.

1078
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 6: You know, if he fails his offensive coordinator, his chances

1079
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 6: of being a head coach go right down the cropper. Really,

1080
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 6: but can Sam Howell get the job done for Eric

1081
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 6: B Enemy in Washington?

1082
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 10: Hmmm?

1083
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 8: So when I think about this, this is a tough

1084
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 8: one because Eric B Enemy is one of my I mean, look,

1085
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 8: he's a close friend.

1086
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: I love eb as a coach.

1087
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 8: I worry about the culture that they have in Washington.

1088
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 8: Can he come and be a demanding coach if they've

1089
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 8: never had those kind of standards there, we saw Ron

1090
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 8: Rivera just kind of put him out there, put him

1091
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 8: on the I mean kind of kind of put him

1092
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 8: out there, didn't he didn't defend.

1093
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the players already.

1094
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 8: Know that there's a bit of the vibe because Ron

1095
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 8: Rivera has never coached like that evidently. But a lot

1096
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Speaker 8: of it comes down to the results. If Sam Howell

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Speaker 8: looks pretty good early the offense response, they'll be fine.

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Speaker 8: And Eric Enemy will probably to get major looks as

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Speaker 8: a head coach, even though he's had eight interviews and

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Speaker 8: never has been able to advance beyond that point.

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Speaker 6: And that that's wrong, that that's big time wrong. But

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Speaker 6: I will say this, there's new ownership in Washington, and

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Speaker 6: what frightens me and you know as well as anybody else,

1104
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 6: when a new owner comes in, sometimes he wants his guy. Right,

1105
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 6: Rivera could be gone. And if a Rivera's gone, I

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00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 6: mean so is eb So you know, they gotta win.

1107
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 6: There's no doubt about that.

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00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 7: They got to win.

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Speaker 6: When I say win, they gotta go to the playoffs.

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00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 6: You know, even to make the first round to get eliminated.

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00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 6: They got to get to the playoffs. Otherwise I gotta

1112
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Speaker 6: live the new owner's is gonna sweep the broom clean,

1113
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 6: Rivera's gone, the enemy's gone.

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Speaker 7: That's bad. That'd be real bad.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it absolutely would be real bad.

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Speaker 8: But that's the mandate when you are dealing with a

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Speaker 8: new ownership group.

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Speaker 1: You better hit the ground running because if you don't

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00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: hit the ground running, you're definitely on the hot seat.

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Speaker 1: And they are on the hot seat as they end

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Speaker 1: of the season.

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Speaker 6: And the silliest thing that I've read, and maybe it

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Speaker 6: was just a room I know if you heard about

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00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 6: it as well, this new ownership group wants to go

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Speaker 6: back and call the team the Redskins.

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Speaker 7: Did you hear that?

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Speaker 6: I mean, that was one of the reasons why the

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Speaker 6: NFL wanted it to sell in the beginning, right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I know from a nostalgic nostalia standpoint everyone, because

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Speaker 8: I'm from North Carolina, a lot of people from North

1131
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 8: Carolina either loved the Washington football team or they fell

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Speaker 8: in love with the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: In looking at it, man.

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Speaker 8: There would be better served to go back to the

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Speaker 8: Washington football team with the original colors and the original uniforms.

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Speaker 1: Then to go back to their previous name name.

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Speaker 8: That would just be very, very difficult but the Commanders

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Speaker 8: I'm not in love with.

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Speaker 7: I like the Washington football team. It was nice. I

1140
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 7: mean that wasn't bad.

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Speaker 6: Really go back to that, No big deal there. Now

1142
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 6: looking at this team right now, look at their roster.

1143
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Speaker 6: Are they a playoff team? I don't think they are.

1144
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Speaker 6: I really don't.

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00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I'm sitting here and I'm looking defensively.

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00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: They have enough talent front line, they can get it done.

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00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: I get in front borderline. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: The division is not that tough. The division they players,

1149
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 7: not that tough.

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Speaker 6: They could win because you know, I don't see the

1151
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 6: New York Giants, you know, really taking a major step forward.

1152
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Speaker 6: Matter of fact, I think they were somewhat lucky last

1153
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 6: year making the playoffs and beating Minnesota in that playoff game.

1154
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 6: I'm not even certain the Giants will go back to

1155
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 6: the playoffs again this year.

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00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 7: Though.

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00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 6: Everybody's talking about their quarterback making big strides, you know,

1158
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 6: big Daniel there, I don't see it. I don't know

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00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 6: what about you with the Giants.

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Speaker 8: Good team, solid. I like what they've done throughout the offseason.

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00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 8: Darren Waller gives to me true number one weapon in

1162
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 8: the passing game. He'll help some of those other guys uncovered.

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00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 8: They bring Saquon Barkley back. He was really the anchor

1164
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 8: and the focal point of the offense. Offensively fine defense

1165
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 8: and getting back to basics, removing some of the star

1166
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Speaker 8: power to make sure that they're playing the right way.

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Speaker 1: They're there, They're gonna be okay.

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Speaker 8: They're gonna be in the conversation, Wing Martinell does a

1169
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 8: great job of mixing it up. The jass are gonna

1170
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 8: be right right there. I would give them, yes, a

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Speaker 8: chance to correct, to break through.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 7: That sounds good. Okay, we move on.

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Speaker 6: He's Bucky Brooks. Get him on Twitter at Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 6: or Mike Harmer. He'll join us next hour at Swollen

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Speaker 3: That's next.

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Speaker 6: It's one position that could define the season. Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 6: Bucky Brooks lucky to have him here played the game

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Speaker 6: scout of the game on radio, and a writer for

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Speaker 6: NFL dot Com punched that up on Friday's Tremendous Stuff

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Speaker 6: and he wrote about the new position that's going to

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Speaker 6: define the league this year. Tell us, Bucky about when

1207
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Speaker 6: you played in the league for defensive guru Dick dron,

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Speaker 6: what do you tell you about the defensive side of

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Speaker 6: the ball.

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Speaker 8: So Dick durand longtime defensive coordinated, longtime NFL head coach,

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Speaker 8: always talked about in every sport you have to build

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Speaker 8: your team strong down the middle. And in baseball it

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Speaker 8: talks about catcher, pitcher, your middle infianlders, your center fielder.

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00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 8: Back in the day basketball it was your point guard

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00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,479
Speaker 8: and your center. Well, now in football, that's the same

1216
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 8: way you think about your defensive tackle, your mike linebacker,

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00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 8: your safeties.

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Speaker 1: Old school football, that was the way to get it done.

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Speaker 8: Now it's about the defensive tackle being an inside pass rusher.

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Speaker 8: And if you look at the stats. You know, earlier

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00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 8: we talked about the twenty million dollar club and what

1222
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 8: people are paying. In terms of who they're paying, it's

1223
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 8: about the passing game, passers, playmakers, pass rushers, and well

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00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 8: that pass rusher is not only the guy on the perimeter,

1225
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 8: but it's a guy coming right up to gut. So

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Speaker 8: you think about the likes of Chris Jones, Aaron Donald, Quinn,

1227
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 8: Williams being able to get it done, Deron Payne, Dexter Lawrence,

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00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 8: a bunch of different guys that are kind of making

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Speaker 8: their way. The defensive tackle position now is one of

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Speaker 8: the market positions in the game.

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Speaker 6: Why is that, I mean, why is the evolution of

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Speaker 6: the defensive tackle position. Why all of a sudden has

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Speaker 6: this position become to the forefront.

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Speaker 8: The ball comes out quicker than it's ever had so

1235
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 8: before when people were taking these long seven step drops

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Speaker 8: and the pass rushes off the edge could get home.

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Speaker 1: Everyone is catching throw now.

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Speaker 8: So the only way to get pressure on quarterbacks is

1239
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 8: right up the gut, so right in their lap. You

1240
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 8: got to be able to push the pocket and do

1241
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 8: those things to make the guys like the old Tom

1242
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 8: Brady or the quarterbacks that are immobile, to make them

1243
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Speaker 8: get off of their spot. So you have to have

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Speaker 8: someone inside that can disrupt at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 6: Interesting was I'm watching hard knocks now and they got

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Speaker 6: the Cuban, Quinnon and Williams four years, ninety six million dollars,

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Speaker 6: and this guy is all over the field. He's unbelievable, really,

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's a tremendous ball player, and I think

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00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 6: he's really going to help the Jets. I mean, I

1250
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 6: think the Jets defensive side of the ball is a

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Speaker 6: lot better than the offensive start of the bull especially

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00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 6: that offensive line that's got a weak spot for the Jets.

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00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Jets are an interesting team.

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00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 8: Everyone talks about Aaron Rodgers, and Aaron Rodgers will give

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00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 8: them a boost on defense, but beating the boost on

1256
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 8: offense because of his consistency, his game management skills, four

1257
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Speaker 8: time MVP and those things. Defensely just seems loaded, and

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Speaker 8: they've done a great job of investing in the front

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Speaker 8: the pass rushes that they have a young hungry they're

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Speaker 8: able to get it done, and they do it without

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Speaker 8: really seeing a lot of blitz pressure. Quentinn Williams is

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Speaker 8: the point on the sword. He is the guy that

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Speaker 8: sets the tone last year at twelve sacks. He's been

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Speaker 8: a guy that has gotten better and better each year,

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Speaker 8: and so you're beginning to see the dominance and the

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00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 8: disruptive nature that he brings to that lineup. So when

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Speaker 8: you have him and some of the young guys like

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00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 8: Jamaine Johnson and some of the others that are kind

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Speaker 8: of rotating in they could throw a.

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Speaker 1: Lot at you. This defense is really good.

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Speaker 6: You know, you mentioned something very interesting in your story

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Speaker 6: onfl dot com. Four defensive tackles came off the board

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Speaker 6: in round one of the twenty twenty three NFL draft.

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Speaker 6: That's amazing, and you said, considering three previous drafts produced

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Speaker 6: just three first round defensive tackles combined, that's an amazing situation.

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Speaker 6: But you know as well as I do, that it's

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Speaker 6: sort of like a copycat league. If one team starts

1278
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 6: drafting a lot of dts, it's going to go down

1279
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 6: the board. If a lot of teams kind of illuminate

1280
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 6: the running back, they'll all do it. That's just the

1281
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 6: way it is in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It is the way it is.

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00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 8: It continues to be a thing where it's a copycat

1284
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 8: league and everyone will will kind of see what the

1285
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 8: trends are and make those things happen. But it is

1286
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 8: proven that you can find those guys on the inside.

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Speaker 8: They're just different. Like right now, we're just at a

1288
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 8: time where you can have a three hundred pounds inside

1289
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 8: pass Russia who can absolutely take over the game. And

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Speaker 8: if you have one of those guys, it changes how

1291
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 8: you have to block at the point of attack. It

1292
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 8: changes how much time your quarterback has. It's a huge,

1293
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 8: huge benefit to being able to have someone that can

1294
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 8: rush right or the good.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so now let's get into the specifics. Let's talk

1296
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 6: about how important is DT Chris Jones for the Kansas

1297
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 6: City Chiefs and what on earth is he going to

1298
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,959
Speaker 6: return because he's talking about maybe holding out. I've read

1299
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Speaker 6: for like eight games. That's ridiculous. It's not gonna happen.

1300
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 6: But he did mention that he said he'll sit out

1301
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Speaker 6: for eight games.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he said that. That's a lot of money to

1303
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 8: throw away. I know he's due maybe eighteen million. I'm

1304
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 8: not throwing away eighteen million dollars to prove a bigger

1305
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 8: point because now the CBA makes it where the teams can't.

1306
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 8: They cannot waive those fines. You have to find them

1307
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 8: according to that fee schedule. You can't wipe it off.

1308
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 8: So I can't imagine the player doing it. Just like

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00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 8: I knew Josh Jacobs and those guys would come in.

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Speaker 8: Everyone talks tough until you start missing real NFL game.

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Speaker 8: Just check miss Yeah, no one, No one wants to

1312
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 8: give away that kind of money.

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Speaker 6: It amazes me. Now, Chris Jones, he'll be back. I

1314
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 6: don't know when, but he'll probably he'll be there for

1315
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 6: the first game. There's no doubt about that. You got

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00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 6: Aaron Donald that position, Quinnin Jones the man for the Jets.

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00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 6: Basically right now, you'd have to say, and you wrote this,

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00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 6: that Aaron Donald is the goat all right? Who's pushing

1319
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 6: him right now? Because Aaron Donald right now is thirty two.

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00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 6: He's getting up there. I mean he's in and I

1321
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 6: said the twilight of his career, but he's probably missing

1322
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 6: a step or two.

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00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's getting up there. I say Chris Jones is

1324
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: the next one.

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00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 8: Chris Jones is the one that everyone kind of points

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00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 8: to as the guy. Some would argue that he should

1327
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 8: have been the number one guy last year if you

1328
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 8: look at the grades that PFF puts out and some

1329
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 8: of the other evaluators, they love Chris Jones. Chris Jones

1330
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 8: is a freak show in terms of his size, his strength,

1331
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 8: his explosiveness at the point of attack. Aaron Donald has

1332
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 8: done it for a long time, but at thirty one,

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00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 8: he's nearing the end, maybe either out of boredom or

1334
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 8: just you know, time been the league for over ten years,

1335
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 8: maybe it's time. And so it appears that Chris Jones

1336
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 8: is ready to take the crown, and then right behind him,

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00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 8: Quinn Williams, Jeffreys Simmons, Javon Hargra, the Forrest Buckner.

1338
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: They're a ton of guys. Text to Lawrence has emerged.

1339
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: We've just seen it very.

1340
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 8: A rash of massive contracts and big time draft picks

1341
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 8: come off the board at that position. There's something that's

1342
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Speaker 8: bubbling up when it comes to defensive tackles.

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Speaker 6: I will say this though, I mean, you've did a

1344
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 6: lot of work, a lot of research, a lot of

1345
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 6: homework on this on NFL dot com. Bucket Brooks, I

1346
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 6: really suggest people read this. But you talk about the

1347
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 6: Forest Buckner who played for the Indianapolis coach. The bad

1348
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 6: news is when you play for a bad team, no

1349
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 6: one knows who you are. That's just the nature of

1350
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 6: the beast. But you wrote that since twenty eighteen, only

1351
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 6: Aaron Donald and Chris Jones have had more sacks than

1352
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 6: Buckler's forty four at the DT position. And that's an

1353
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 6: amazing situation because that team is terrible over the last

1354
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 6: couple of years. So it's really tremendous what he has done.

1355
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 6: He's six seven, two ninety five. This guy's a hell

1356
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 6: of a play it really is. But you know, a

1357
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 6: lot of people don't even know about him.

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Speaker 8: No, it's funny that a lot of people don't know

1359
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 8: about him. He's done a great job. He is completely

1360
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 8: change the way that you have to deal with them

1361
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 8: because of his explosiveness just at the point of attack.

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01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: He makes it happen. He finds a way to get

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01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: it done.

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01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 8: That length is problematic, and the steady and consistent presence

1365
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 8: being able to tally at least six or seven sacks

1366
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 8: a year over the last eight years, that's I mean

1367
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 8: six or seven years.

1368
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: That's a lot of production.

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01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 8: There's a lot of consistent production, and he deserves to

1370
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 8: kind of be in that conversation.

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Speaker 6: Let me let me leave you with this question because

1372
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 6: look again, I never played the game, and it's so

1373
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 6: great for me to kind of get this information out

1374
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 6: of you. You know, if you're a quarterback, you have skills,

1375
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 6: you're born with a great arm, you could throw the football,

1376
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 6: you could run whatever it may be. If you're a

1377
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 6: piss rusher, do you really it's this dumb question, I know,

1378
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 6: do you really have to be a great athlete or

1379
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 6: just mentally you say, I'm going to go out whatever

1380
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 6: it takes. I'm going to go rush the quarterback. I'm

1381
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 6: going to get him. You don't have to be I mean,

1382
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 6: I see these guys, some of these guys at three

1383
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 6: twenty three point thirty, you know, we're walking down the street.

1384
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 6: You say, look at that guy. He's out of shape.

1385
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 6: He's he doesn't look like an athlete's not a football player.

1386
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 6: But I guess you don't have to be in great shape.

1387
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 6: Do you just a mindset like I'm gonna get this

1388
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 6: guy and no one's gonna stop me.

1389
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Speaker 8: Well, if you look at Aaron Donald, I would think

1390
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 8: you'd be hard pressed to say that Aaron Donald's not.

1391
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: In great shape.

1392
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 7: I would never say that.

1393
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: It's something to it.

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01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 8: You just have to have the combination of size, strength

1395
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 8: and power to be able to do it. And some

1396
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 8: of these guys are freak shows. Aaron Donald is certainly

1397
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 8: a guy that is different when it comes to that

1398
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 8: kind of stuff. You know, it's funny because I think

1399
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 8: about the great pass rushes that I've seen that I

1400
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 8: played with. Now, some of these guys were in Derrek

1401
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 8: Thomas was a little squatty body, a little different. Bruce

1402
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 8: Smith was a big, hawking body. Reggie White was different

1403
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 8: at defensive tackle. These guys come in different things. Because

1404
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 8: Aaron Donald is a squaddy, undersized defensive tackle, Chris Jones

1405
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 8: is to complete opposite he's sixty five sixty six.

1406
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: Three entred finals.

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01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 8: You can get it done in a bunch of different ways,

1408
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 8: but you have to have a combination of strength and

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01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 8: power to be able to do it consistently over time.

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01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 7: Thank you, all right. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm eighty Ferminan.

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Speaker 6: We are Fox Sports Sunny A, Fox Sports Radio. This

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01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 6: is the real kiss of death. We'll tell you all

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Speaker 6: about it next, but first Nick cope with all your

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Speaker 6: sports all right, guys.

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Speaker 9: We had college football on Saturday and a couple of

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01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 9: ranked teams in action. Number six USC with a strong

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01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 9: second half to pull away from San Jose State fifty

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01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 9: six to twenty eight. Caleb Williams, the reigning Heisman Trophy winner,

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01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 9: through for four touchdowns. So did new Notre Dame quarterback

1420
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Speaker 9: Sam Hartman. He shined as well with four touchdown passes.

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01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 9: Number thirteen Notre Dame all over Navy forty two to

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01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 9: three in Dublin. Some other finals, Vanderbilt hung on against Hawaii,

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Speaker 9: Sandyjego State over Ohio, LNTEC over FIU, UMass beating New

1424
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 9: Mexico State, and Jacksonville State won its FBS debut. They

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01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 9: beat UTEP seventeen to fourteen. In the NFL, Aaron Rodgers

1426
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 9: made his debut in a Jets uniform. He threw a

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Speaker 9: touchdown pass to receiver Garrett Wilson in their preseason game

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01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 9: against the Giants. Dolphins and Jaguars cut their preseason game

1429
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 9: short after Miami receiver Daywood Davis was carted off the

1430
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 9: field on a stretcher in the fourth quarter and taken

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01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 9: to the hospital. Dolphins announced Davis had movement in all

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Speaker 9: his extremities. Buccaneers Pro Bowl center Ryan Jensen placed on

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Speaker 9: injured reserve with a knee injury. The Cleveland Playing Dealer

1434
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 9: reports Browns receiver Jakeem Grant may have suffered a broken

1435
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 9: patella in his knee, which would knock him out for

1436
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Speaker 9: the year. He will have an MRI today to confirm.

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01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 9: In baseball, Reds over the d Backs eight to seven

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01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 9: in extra innings, since he just a half game back

1439
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 9: of Arizona for the final wildcard spot in the NL.

1440
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 9: Have won their seventh straight, edging the Padres five to four.

1441
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 9: They got a four game lead on the Cubs in

1442
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 9: the Division, Philly's holding onto that top wild card spot

1443
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 9: in the NL. They cruise pass the Cardinals twelve to one.

1444
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 9: In the ALE, the Rangers stop the bleeding. They snap

1445
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 9: an eight game losing streak by beating the Twins six

1446
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 9: to two. Still tied atop the ALE West with the Mariners,

1447
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 9: who won again. They crushed the Royals fifteen to two.

1448
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 9: Ray shout out the Yankees three to nothing. Orioles over

1449
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 9: the Ronkies five to four. Red Sox beat the Dodgers

1450
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 9: eight five, and the best record in baseball the Braves.

1451
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 9: They won again, beating the Giant seven to three. Soccer

1452
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 9: Lido Messi scored his ninth goal and eleven games as

1453
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 9: Inner Miami beat the New York Red Bulls, and we

1454
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 9: got the final round in golf of the Tour Championship

1455
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 9: coming up today. Victor Hovlin is the leader at twenty

1456
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 9: under par for the tournament and he has six shots

1457
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 9: clear of second place. Let's send it back to Andy

1458
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 9: Furman and Bucky Brooks. Thanks next to you about an

1459
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 9: hour now. The kiss that killed that's coming right up.

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Speaker 6: story for the ages. It's an amazing story. And I

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01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 6: don't know Buck. If you watch the women's National Games

1474
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,439
Speaker 6: in soccer, Spain wins it. Spain women's national soccer coach

1475
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 6: Luis rubi allis suspended three months right now why his

1476
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 6: unsolicited kiss on the lips of Spain player Jenny Hermoso.

1477
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 6: Now I gotta get back to this story because Ruby

1478
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 6: Allis said, do you think this incident is.

1479
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 7: So serious that I should go? They wanted to fire him.

1480
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 6: Now he's suspended for three months, and now he says,

1481
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 6: I've come under a lot of pressure. Perhaps somebody would

1482
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 6: look to remove me. We live in a country of laws.

1483
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 6: It was a consensual kiss, he says.

1484
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 7: To remove me.

1485
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 6: However, Jenny Hermoso said, it was not a consensual kiss,

1486
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 6: So we have to spain one.

1487
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 7: If you saw some of.

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01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 6: The replays, he grabbed her and kissed her on the lips,

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01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 6: and now he's out for three months. What was your

1490
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 6: take on this, because I'm telling you it's gotten to

1491
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 6: the point right now. Like he said, she said, I

1492
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 6: think it's crazy. I think it's funny, but I think

1493
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 6: it's crazy.

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01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's a lot. I mean it's a lot.

1495
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 8: But my man can't be running around like kissing people

1496
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 8: after they win, like she just want to be kissed.

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01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you just can't kiss her. You know. I

1498
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: understand you're excited because your.

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Speaker 8: Team won the World Cup in those things, but you

1500
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 8: just can't run around acting like the kissing bandit.

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01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: So he has to suffer some consequences.

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01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 8: They have to put him in the time out box

1503
01:07:58,440 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 8: for three months and then he can work his way.

1504
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 8: He has to pol he should apologize to her and

1505
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 8: make sure that that he knows, because it can't be

1506
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 8: a consensual kiss if she's not consenting to do so.

1507
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in trouble.

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01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 6: Well, he said, he said that they that she did.

1509
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 6: She said, no way, and look, she missed the penalty, kid,

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01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 6: and he said that we hugged and he said, forget

1511
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 6: about the penalty.

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01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 7: He goes.

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01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 6: He says, you've been fantastic. We wouldn't have won the

1514
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 6: World Cup without you.

1515
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 7: And she said you're great.

1516
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 6: And I said a kiss and she said yes, and

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01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 6: then she came back and said later she didn't say yes.

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Speaker 7: Uh, I don't know.

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01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,879
Speaker 6: Is it a big deal? I guess you're evading someone's privacy.

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Speaker 6: You just can't do that stuff. And maybe years ago

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Speaker 6: you can get away with it. You can't get away

1522
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 6: with that stuff right now, that's for sure. So he'll

1523
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:41,879
Speaker 6: be back for three months.

1524
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, you absolutely can't get away with that stuff right now.

1525
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 7: A lot of things you can't get away with right now.

1526
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 1: No, you can't. You can't do that. You can't it's

1527
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: all bad.

1528
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 6: I think it's kind of funny. I think that we

1529
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 6: should touch on that for a second. But you know,

1530
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 6: when I when I saw that, I'm watching the table,

1531
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 6: what on earth is he doing?

1532
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 7: You know? I thought I thought he knew her.

1533
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 6: He kissed her like you wouldn't kiss your own daughter

1534
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 6: on their lips like that, let alone someone you're coaching.

1535
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 7: It's crazy you coached.

1536
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously you coach guys, I would think, but still,

1537
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 6: you just certain things you don't do anymore. You probably

1538
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 6: wouldn't even hug a player anymore, right, I mean, you

1539
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 6: just gotta be careful. I got to keep your distance.

1540
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 6: You're a professional. You gotta do what you gotta do,

1541
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 6: and watch, watch your p's and q's.

1542
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: Yes, you do. You can't do certain things you can't.

1543
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 8: You have to be careful. You have to be careful

1544
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 8: with young people in general. When you have these moments,

1545
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 8: like you have to have space between yourself. You got

1546
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 8: to make sure if you do hug them or congratulate them,

1547
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 8: your hands have to be in the right spot. There's

1548
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 8: a lot to think about, but yeah, you're just trying

1549
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 8: to make sure that you don't make anyone around you

1550
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 8: uncomfortable with your.

1551
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,560
Speaker 6: Actions, right, and I'm sure there are appearance waiting in

1552
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 6: the wings to make sure you do everything correctly, otherwise

1553
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 6: you'll hear from it.

1554
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 7: There's no doubt.

1555
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 6: About that, Yes, right, yes, Okay, Speaking the coaches, and

1556
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 6: you wrote about this as well, Bucket that Greg Popovich

1557
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 6: of the San Antonio Spurs in the NBA and NFOCUSED

1558
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 6: Bill Belichick considered obviously two of the greatest coaches in

1559
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 6: their respective sports in the history of the sport. Bill

1560
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 6: Belichick right now on the hot seat? Is that possible?

1561
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 6: Cannot possibly be that he is on the hot seat.

1562
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 6: And look, when they asked the owner of the Pages,

1563
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 6: Robert Kraft, about his job, he didn't really give him

1564
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 6: a vote of confidence. He says, I'd like to see

1565
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 6: him break Don Shula's all time record, but I'm not

1566
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,839
Speaker 6: looking for any of our players to get great stats.

1567
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 6: We're about winning and doing whatever he can to win.

1568
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 6: Does Bill Belichick's team, the Patriots have to make the

1569
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 6: playoffs this year for him to keep his job.

1570
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 8: Yes, and it's crazy to say that forgat us an

1571
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 8: all time great, but there's some pressure due to what

1572
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 8: Tom Brady was able to do when he steps outside

1573
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 8: the organization and win a super Bowl right away. Robert

1574
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 8: Craft might not have been on board with the Patriots

1575
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 8: getting moving on from Tom Brady, and so when he

1576
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 8: sees tom Brady have success, he's kind of in that

1577
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 8: I told you so space. So Belichick, we've done it

1578
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 8: your way. And since Tom Brady's left, we're right at

1579
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 8: five hundreds, like twenty five, twenty five, twenty five to

1580
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 8: twenty six. I need to see some results because I

1581
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,600
Speaker 8: let you talk me into letting the franchise, the marquee

1582
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 8: player that's associated with our franchise move on. He wins

1583
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 8: the Super Bowl, but yet here we are not making

1584
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 8: the playoffs. A lot of pressure on Belichick.

1585
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 6: Okay, now, the pressure, as you say, is on him

1586
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 6: to at least make the playoffs. How difficult is not

1587
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 6: going to be because that AFC is like Murderer's role.

1588
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 6: It's crazy, it really is. It's the toughest division in football.

1589
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 6: You know, you go down from Buffalo. Now the Jets

1590
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 6: are somewhat competitive. You got the Cincinnati Bengals. Baltimore's gotten better,

1591
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 6: there's a healthy quarterback of Lamar Jackson. Pittsburgh pick its

1592
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 6: second year.

1593
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 7: It's tough.

1594
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 6: I don't know if they could do it.

1595
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 8: It is tough and it's only going to get tougher

1596
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 8: as they continue to move forward. The reason why so

1597
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 8: tough is the quarterbacks. Quarterblay play dictates all of the stuff.

1598
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 8: And how good is mac Jones compared to the other

1599
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 8: quarterbacks in the division, well the quarterbacks around the league.

1600
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 8: He's not a top five quarterback, so you're having to

1601
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 8: work around that part.

1602
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: It's a huge issue.

1603
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 6: I know I would hate to see I don't think

1604
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 6: they fire him. I think he would. They permit him

1605
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 6: to resign, But does he continue coaching? I mean, would

1606
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 6: someone pick him up? I think they would.

1607
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you would like to think that would happen.

1608
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 1: Maybe it's tough.

1609
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 7: To have a little bit of preseason. I'll tell you that.

1610
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 1: Man, he's never won without Brady.

1611
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 7: I know, it's tough. It's gonna be interesting.

1612
01:12:58,400 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: There you go.

1613
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 6: Bucket brooks Andy Firm, Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio.

1614
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 6: Now let's see how one former NFL player is off

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1630
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Speaker 1: I'm always ready. I'm ready.

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Speaker 7: Here we go, let's play.

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Speaker 4: It's bottom bottom miany to sleep.

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Speaker 9: People, get my money.

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Speaker 3: I'll put your yes.

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01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 9: It is the man who handles it all the big

1636
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 9: a Hey Fin Miller.

1637
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 7: Let's get it done.

1638
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 10: All right, guys, let's do this and we're gonna start.

1639
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 7: You sound really excited. I'm gonna smack you.

1640
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 5: Come on.

1641
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 10: Let's on my best.

1642
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: Here.

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01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 10: I had my double shot of espresso and here we go.

1644
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 10: Darts very exciting.

1645
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 6: Here.

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01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,759
Speaker 10: We're gonna start off with Colin Osborne or Wesley Harms.

1647
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 10: You're gonna do a pick them?

1648
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 7: Where are they from?

1649
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 10: I couldn't tell you where they're from, to be honest,

1650
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 10: it's just you gotta just you gotta guess that. That

1651
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 10: makes the game fun.

1652
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, context, the Bucky doesn't know much about Wesley Harms

1653
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 6: Colin Osborne.

1654
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 7: Because Jeff Schwartz knows his darts.

1655
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, Jeff, Jeff, actually it, yeah, he does, he does,

1656
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 10: which is hilarious.

1657
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 7: All right, let let's get the little bucket go first.

1658
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: He's he's my Osborne. I'm gonna go with Osborne.

1659
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,879
Speaker 6: Okay, you know what, because going with Osborne, I'm going Wesley.

1660
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 6: I'm just saying I can't believe you're gonna get it right,

1661
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:05,879
Speaker 6: So I'm going Wesley.

1662
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 7: He's my guy.

1663
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 10: All right, look at you two. All right, onto et sports.

1664
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 10: How about that? Huh the euro Championship. So we're gonna go.

1665
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 10: There's a pick on. So it's called efanatic. So it's

1666
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 10: not watching watch watching fanatic. No, So it's just that

1667
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 10: I don't know. You can look it up. It's interesting,

1668
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 10: not fanatic, f natic verse excel, but the excel. The

1669
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 10: L is a capital L at the end of the Excel.

1670
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 10: I don't know. Interesting.

1671
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 7: You know, what do you got?

1672
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 10: Buck?

1673
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 8: Uh?

1674
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 1: Let's go to Excel.

1675
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 10: He's an Excel guy.

1676
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 7: You know what. I'm living on the edge. I'm going fanatic.

1677
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 6: I just you know, I like the words really fanatic.

1678
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 6: I don't know who they are, what they are, but

1679
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 6: I'm going with the name fnatic.

1680
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 10: Get yourself a fanatic T shirt?

1681
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd love to get one. Yes, google that after

1682
01:15:59,520 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 7: the show.

1683
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 10: I know you guys are in the handball so we're

1684
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 10: gonna go to the German Handball League. Uh, it's the

1685
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 10: gummer Batch versus the Lemgo. Uh you can go gummer

1686
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 10: Batch minus one and a half or the Lemgo plus

1687
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 10: one and a half? What do you got buck?

1688
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: Zemgo plus one and a half? How about that?

1689
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 7: You got it? There's a regular lead that it's just

1690
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 7: it's not like individuals. It's a regular lead that keep

1691
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 7: standings and stuff.

1692
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 10: Seven thirty am. First pass?

1693
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 7: Could I watch it on YouTube? I think I don't

1694
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 7: Cumma Batch? I got Guma Batch?

1695
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 10: Is that what they say? First pass? Like in this sport?

1696
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 10: Not like you guys would know. Why would you know?

1697
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 7: I don't know?

1698
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 10: All right, we're going to last one We'll do Chinese tennis. Wait,

1699
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 10: Chinese table tennis. That's what it is like.

1700
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 7: That's interesting.

1701
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: One of my first one of my favorites, and.

1702
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 10: It's actually doubles, so I'm gonna steal my three.

1703
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 6: They're still like three miles behind the table on those games.

1704
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, they don't mess around. I'm gonna do my

1705
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 10: best to pronounce these names, but it's gonna be zoo

1706
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 10: and zoo versus pang and cow.

1707
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 7: The rhymes.

1708
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go, let's go zoo and ze.

1709
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 8: I'm trying to make sure I can get the funk

1710
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 8: pronunciations right, zoo and zae and cow.

1711
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 6: And I'd like to watch this because this is amazing.

1712
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 6: I mean, I didn't even know how you practice it.

1713
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 6: Do you have to be an athlete to do this?

1714
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 6: Would you consider them athletes?

1715
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 10: Yeah? I guess, I mean they're they're considering man whatever.

1716
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 7: Certain sports.

1717
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 6: I don't think you have to be an athlete. One

1718
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 6: of them is golf, really and bowling, all right, swollen dough.

1719
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 6: Mike Harmon joins the fund. Coming up here next on

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Speaker 6: Fox Reunited. Whoo and it feels so good. Welcome in

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Speaker 4: Good to be back with you for another season. Andy Furman,

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1736
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:39,719
Speaker 3: Everything.

1737
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 4: Guys, we made it. Our long national nightmare is over.

1738
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 4: Week zero is upon us.

1739
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're here. We're here.

1740
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 8: Love, I love to energy. Mike Harmon is coming in hot.

1741
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 8: I mean he's fresh out of Chicago, like bringing his thing.

1742
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 8: I mean, I feel like you had like a little

1743
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 8: a little something extra last night, like maybe you had

1744
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 8: some womannais because you're right now, like you came in

1745
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 8: ready to go, but like it's a fun time. It

1746
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 8: is football season. We know we are locked in and.

1747
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: Loaded to the middle of February.

1748
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 8: College football on Saturday nights, pro football on Sundays and

1749
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 8: Mondays and Thursdays and all things in between.

1750
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 7: So it's a good time and a great time, great time.

1751
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 4: Yes, I got to ask you one question, though they're

1752
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 4: in where you are geographically, are you holding candlelight vigils

1753
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 4: every night for the health of Joe Burrow?

1754
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 6: You know, I think things will be fine. Here's a

1755
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 6: guy that basically has a problem just keeping himself healthy.

1756
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 6: But the appendent side of this thing, I mean, that's

1757
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 6: just not football related. That happened a year ago, and

1758
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 6: he came back, but they had a rough start. They

1759
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 6: were alling two list year, the Bengals, and I think

1760
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 6: that he had to put his weight back on and

1761
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 6: work himself back into shape.

1762
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 7: And I hope that doesn't happen this year.

1763
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 6: I mean, I hope he's ready for the opener in Cleveland,

1764
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 6: because I We'll tell you this much. If he's not there,

1765
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 6: they ain't gonna win. I mean, he's everything, He's the

1766
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,520
Speaker 6: ball club, that's what it is. It's not like San Francisco,

1767
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 6: where you could with a Rock Purty who's not to

1768
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 6: me a franchise quarterback, not.

1769
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 7: In the same league as Joe Burrow.

1770
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 6: But you know they got so many great players around

1771
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 6: him in San Francisco. But without Joe, ain't no show.

1772
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 4: I can't have you disparage Trevor Simeon's name like that, though.

1773
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 4: I've got to protect the last vestiges of what was

1774
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 4: once a proud Northwestern program.

1775
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, what happened to that program?

1776
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 4: We're not going Look, we're not doing that now that

1777
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 4: there's a lot of litigation going.

1778
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 7: It's he's coaching high school now as he is.

1779
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he moved into the high school.

1780
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 4: There's some folks that are for those unaware, want to

1781
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 4: hit the rewind button of what you might have missed

1782
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 4: in your summer vacation. The scandal at Northwestern hazing some

1783
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 4: of it with the graphics. Again, fellas not to get

1784
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 4: too deep into this, but if if the allegations are true,

1785
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 4: then where are the indictments and investigations of any player

1786
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 4: that might have taken part in this through the years?

1787
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 4: And how do all the assistant coaches keep their jobs?

1788
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 4: And if you have an agreement, go ahead, well let

1789
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 4: me give you all that last night. And if there

1790
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,440
Speaker 4: was an agreement in place about a suspension with Pat Fitzgerald,

1791
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 4: and you've done your due diligence and you've done a

1792
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 4: true investigation, how do you when a few details get

1793
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 4: out based on the student newspaper, how do you, as

1794
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 4: a president and as an athletic director then immediately just

1795
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 4: say we have no conviction, no spine, and bow to

1796
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 4: public pressure to fire him, but retain everybody else.

1797
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 6: I agree, I mean, and I do want to ask

1798
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 6: Bucky Brooks, what was the hazing like in North Carolina?

1799
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 8: We didn't have any of that, Like even the stuff

1800
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 8: that I'm honest like, I'm telling you, like maybe you

1801
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 8: would get a haircut or something like that, maybe they'll

1802
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 8: shave your head, but nothing to that nature like the

1803
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 8: stuff that they were alleging. I mean, if you're a parent,

1804
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 8: you would be concerned. And so so the funny thing

1805
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 8: to me be with him volunteering at high school. If

1806
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 8: all those things are true, There's no way they can

1807
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 8: let you volunteer at high school.

1808
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: I'm you know what I mean, right, There's no.

1809
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 8: Way that you can do it because they make you

1810
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 8: do all these background checks and live scans and fingerprints.

1811
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: And all of that.

1812
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 8: He wouldn't be clear to be able to be a volunteer,

1813
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 8: much less if he was a paid high school coach.

1814
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 8: So none of it really makes sense. And I know

1815
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 8: if I'm a Northwestern fan, I know I would be irked.

1816
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 8: If I'm looking at Pat Fitzgerald. I think he's at

1817
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 8: Loyola where he's helping out. I think that's where his

1818
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 8: kids is. He's helping out at Loyola, and they're watching him,

1819
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 8: and he's over there pacing the sidelines as a volunteer man.

1820
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 8: If Northwestern loses a handful of games early, I just

1821
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 8: know that they're going to root today. And I know

1822
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 8: they had a bad, disappointing year and he might have

1823
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 8: been on the hot seat coming back. But he has

1824
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 8: been the most successful coach in their history. The program

1825
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 8: has generally operated above board.

1826
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 7: The favorite Sun play there too.

1827
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've won.

1828
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 8: They've won championships in the big team, which is a

1829
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 8: never like you never can imagine them hoisting the thing,

1830
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 8: and they've done that. And they've been very competitive in

1831
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 8: cycles throughout his tenure.

1832
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on there.

1833
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 3: Well, But that's just it, right.

1834
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 4: If you didn't have a couple of bad years in

1835
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:25,560
Speaker 4: a row probably. I mean, we all know the landscape

1836
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 4: and what works, right, Winners get a little more leeway.

1837
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 4: And in this case, as you said, Andy, the favorite son,

1838
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,719
Speaker 4: he was a year behind me when I was at school.

1839
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 4: I didn't know him very well, met him a few

1840
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 4: times whatever, But certainly he'd built his fiefdom. And what

1841
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 4: happens people come to attack people who build fiefdoms. What's

1842
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,600
Speaker 4: been curious to me is a few of the accusers

1843
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 4: in all of this have been staunch supporters of the

1844
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 4: program since leaving the program. So a lot of disconnect,

1845
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 4: shall we say, in that part, but you know they're

1846
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 4: here's the underbelly, the bad side of what we've been

1847
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 4: talking about.

1848
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:05,560
Speaker 3: We have the middle.

1849
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 4: Ground wherever you are as far as college realignment and

1850
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,719
Speaker 4: reassessment of where you are in the how much money

1851
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 4: can I get?

1852
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 3: What kind of bag can I get?

1853
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 4: Because yesterday, let's face it, guys, you had to update

1854
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 4: your social media time and time again if you want

1855
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 4: to see any of the heroics of Caleb Williams, because

1856
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 4: once again we were all subjected to the glory of

1857
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 4: the PAC twelve network and the fact that well nobody

1858
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 4: has it. It's not a matter of not liking it,

1859
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 4: not liking the presentation. It's a matter of finding said presentation.

1860
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,799
Speaker 7: Is there a PAC twelve network? Seriously?

1861
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 4: No, Well there has been, there still is, Man, they

1862
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 4: still got one more year of it. Well, but that's

1863
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 4: the thing that's been the thing Andy throughout the tenure.

1864
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 4: You've got a lot of folks here in Los Angeles

1865
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 4: that can't get it. You've got a lot of people

1866
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 4: across PACK twelve country that can't get it based on

1867
01:24:54,600 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 4: really bad carriage rights in negotiations for how much much

1868
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 4: of a breath of scope they would be able to

1869
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 4: get right, The big ten network showed up everywhere, SEC

1870
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 4: Longhorn Network, all of these things negotiated well. PAC twelve

1871
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 4: failed failed years ago, and that was well the beginning

1872
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 4: of the long slide to.

1873
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 3: Where we are.

1874
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, so yesterday it became the all right, we'll update.

1875
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 4: It's kind of like, what if you don't have Apple

1876
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 4: Plus you couldn't watch Messi's regular season debut for Enter Miami.

1877
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 4: I'm a nerd, I own that, but PAC twelve network

1878
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 4: I don't have. I don't have it on my cable.

1879
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 4: So it became a let's let's update it or get

1880
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 4: text from my annoying USC friends about the next touchdown,

1881
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 4: which game early and often so often pacing gentlemen. I

1882
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 4: know you probably touched on it a little bit early

1883
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 4: earlier in the show, but let's just get to it.

1884
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 4: I mean, week zero of college football. We had the

1885
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 4: game in Dublin, some of our shows on hand, two

1886
01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 4: pros and a cup of Joe. Of course, the Dan

1887
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 4: Patrick Show. Will Ferrell became a Danette for a few days,

1888
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 4: running around. Some great interviews and chaos and pub crawls

1889
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 4: documented well through their time there. But week zero just

1890
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 4: kind of creeps up, and I mean, it's good to

1891
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 4: wet the appetite. I think right there was a slate,

1892
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 4: but it's not a full slate of games. Although once

1893
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 4: you can go really deep into the night with Hawaii,

1894
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 4: I think we all win.

1895
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 6: You know, Bucky Brow up a great point early on

1896
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 6: this morning, and we talked about the NFL makes a

1897
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:33,560
Speaker 6: big deal about preseason games, tryouts, exhibitions, watching the players

1898
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 6: kind of like see who's going to make.

1899
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 7: The roster or not.

1900
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 6: And how come they don't have preseason games in college Now?

1901
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 6: I understand some of these colleges played patsies early on

1902
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 6: that's okay. I don't have a problem with that, but

1903
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 6: you know, really and truly, it's hard to just get

1904
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 6: into it. I mean, a boxer would not go into

1905
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 6: a ring without having a sparring partner several months, probably

1906
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,759
Speaker 6: before a big match. I don't know why college football

1907
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 6: just manages to go out and play without any preseason games.

1908
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 4: I like that sparring line. Mike Tomlin used that one

1909
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 4: talking about playing his starters in the preseason game. It's

1910
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,839
Speaker 4: like you can't go into a heavyweight fight without sparring.

1911
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 4: So well done there, Andy. Just getting that connection together, Bucky,

1912
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 4: I mean, you know you're a coach. You're around the

1913
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 4: game and obviously covering things there with the Jaguars, watching

1914
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,719
Speaker 4: the mechanics of this and how the ebb and flow.

1915
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 4: We watched the Ravens streak finally end last week. We

1916
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 4: had Brian Billick on our show Jason Smith and I

1917
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 4: this week asking about that.

1918
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 3: He goes, Yeah, the wins, I don't know.

1919
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 4: I guess you might get caught up in the fourth,

1920
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 4: he goes, because he went four and oh the first

1921
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 4: two years he was the Ravens head coach in the precept, Like,

1922
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 4: was that different where you're trying to go, Oh, you're

1923
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 4: trying to get guys ready. The winning just kind of happens,

1924
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 4: but you know, you just need to be healthy for

1925
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 4: week one. And so now as we get into this

1926
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 4: college season, everybody's trying to make grand assessments coming out

1927
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 4: a week zero.

1928
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 3: All right, succeed and proceed.

1929
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 4: I'm stealing from Caliparia on the basketball side as far

1930
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 4: as this goes.

1931
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 8: Bucky, Yeah, this is It's interesting because the nature of

1932
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 8: college football where you have to pick and choose, how

1933
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 8: do you want to play out the schedule. Do you

1934
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 8: want to play some heavyweights early but know that those

1935
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 8: early games could ultimately cost you in the back end

1936
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 8: of the playoff. Do you want to go through like

1937
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 8: a Cups case schedule and just see what it is

1938
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 8: and do you get the favor of the committee at

1939
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 8: the end. When Annie and I were talking about the

1940
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 8: preseason games or the things that you could do for

1941
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 8: college football, to me, it just makes sense. Now people

1942
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 8: have talked about, coaches have talked about they've talked about

1943
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 8: it more so in springball, having jamborees, in those things

1944
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 8: where everyone can can play and you can get some

1945
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 8: different work because it is hard just to have a

1946
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 8: series of intersquad scrimmages and think that your team is ready.

1947
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 8: College football is so weird in that, Hey, we're just

1948
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 8: gonna put scrimmage our sales and we're gonna roll the

1949
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 8: ball out and here we go. I would like to

1950
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 8: see maybe a game or two just to kind of

1951
01:28:58,640 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 8: get us going.

1952
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 4: Can we do these practices like they do in the NFL? Andy,

1953
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 4: what do you think? And then everybody just fights?

1954
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1955
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 6: But here's the situation. I think Bucket brings up a

1956
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 6: great point. But I think you're talking about the schedule.

1957
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 6: It's gonna be cupcakes or heavy duty. But TV has

1958
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 6: a big factor in that because they'll match you up

1959
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 6: and they'll give you a game made for TV. How

1960
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 6: do you turn that down the exposure and to other money?

1961
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 6: So it is another factor right there. I mean, you

1962
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 6: may not be ready to play a big time opponent

1963
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 6: early on, even if you're a big time school in

1964
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 6: a major conference, But you know, how do you turn

1965
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 6: down that exposure in the money?

1966
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 3: Well?

1967
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Speaker 4: Andy, I think that's a big point of where we're

1968
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 4: at right The running joke is the two football conferences

1969
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 4: going forward are Fox and ESPN. Yeah, or Apple Slash ESPN,

1970
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:46,600
Speaker 4: whatever that becomes on that side. Lots of rumors in

1971
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 4: the trades, as it were, but it's absolutely that that case.

1972
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 4: Right when we're talking about, all right, you're spending billions

1973
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 4: of dollars for rights to cover these games and to

1974
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 4: air them. That means you don't want a bunch of

1975
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 4: dogs out there, right, you want as few lackluster matchups,

1976
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 4: cakewalks whatever I mean, because you can only sell it

1977
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 4: so far.

1978
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 3: Right, that Notre Dame game.

1979
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 4: As soon as that started going sideways, and I know

1980
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 4: a lot of folks, for for giggles, were like, all right,

1981
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 4: they're gonna get them, They're gonna get Sam Hartman, He's like, no,

1982
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 4: they walked over second half.

1983
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 3: What are you doing.

1984
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 4: You're doing a bunch of cell jobs on Jerome Bettis

1985
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 4: running around South Bender. Here's another look at what we

1986
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 4: did in the pub. We hung out at every great

1987
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 4: Fish and Chips from yesterday, right, because there's nothing to

1988
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 4: sell because that game's done. Let's look at the schedule again.

1989
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 4: Let's look at the schedule again. Let's look at week five.

1990
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 4: There's Ohio State. Let's look down the road, and you

1991
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 4: start doing long leads on opponents who haven't taken the

1992
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 4: field yet Ohio State hadn't decided on their quarterback the

1993
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 4: last we saw, so, you know, trying to do the

1994
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 4: advanced scouting all though. But I mean that's what you

1995
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,640
Speaker 4: get when you have games of this nature. Great in

1996
01:30:57,720 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 4: the beginning, and then it becomes a hey, what else

1997
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 4: is on?

1998
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:03,600
Speaker 3: Because it becomes a walkover kind of situation.

1999
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 8: Right, it does become a walkover situation.

2000
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 1: Look, a college football to me is great. I love

2001
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 1: the purity of it.

2002
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 8: I love the fact that we kicked off, we had

2003
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 8: the chance. It's actually replayed because Notre Dame and Navy,

2004
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 8: I want to say, the last time they played, I

2005
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 8: was coaching at Notre Dame High School in Sherman Oaks

2006
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:27,719
Speaker 8: and we played in a game.

2007
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: Before they played over there.

2008
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 8: And let me tell you that experience is different to

2009
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,639
Speaker 8: be in Dublin, Ireland to see it. Like they talked

2010
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,600
Speaker 8: about the fight and iris and all that, the pageantry

2011
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 8: with them taking on the Naval Academy, how they played

2012
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:38,679
Speaker 8: and those things.

2013
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 1: That's great. Usc San Jose, say, two California teams kind

2014
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:45,759
Speaker 1: of taking it on that. Those are cool.

2015
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 8: I like to see games that have some significance early

2016
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 8: next weekend.

2017
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 1: We have a ton of them.

2018
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 8: You want to do that, But I'm sure you guys

2019
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,560
Speaker 8: talk about sporing. I'm sure Elis you would like to

2020
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 8: get in the ring a little bit before they had

2021
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 8: to go and take Florida to stay at All Carolina

2022
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,600
Speaker 8: takes on South Carolina. It would be nice to be

2023
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 8: able to have just a little something because most teams

2024
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,679
Speaker 8: make the biggest improvement from week one to week two.

2025
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 8: You would like to get that going before you put

2026
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 8: take on a big game.

2027
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 6: But weren't you surprised with that blowout, that forty two

2028
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 6: to three score that Notre Dame did over Navy Because

2029
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 6: I remember last year, I mean there was some there's

2030
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 6: some problems earlier, they lost a Marshall. I mean, so

2031
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 6: I had no idea what to expect really with that

2032
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 6: Notre Dame game.

2033
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 8: Bucky Little surprised, Ye, a little surprise, But I mean,

2034
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 8: I don't know how good Navy is, you know what

2035
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 8: I'm saying, Like I would expect Notre Dame to always

2036
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 8: be able to handle Navy. I mean, but I guess

2037
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 8: we could say the same thing about them in Marshall.

2038
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 8: I expected them to be able to handle that year

2039
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 8: two with Marcus Freeman. They're more comfortable. He knows a

2040
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 8: little more of what he's doing. It's hard when you're

2041
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 8: the head coach, first time head coach, you're drinking from

2042
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 8: a fire hoost. He now is kind of settled into

2043
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 8: that role. The pressure is still the pressure. Being in

2044
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 8: Notre Dame. Probably has a better feel for how he

2045
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 8: wants his team to look and how did you get

2046
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 8: them ready to look like that.

2047
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 4: I do kind of dig the fact that your coach,

2048
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 4: Brian Newberry, the first year head coach at Navy, follows

2049
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,719
Speaker 4: the John Wooden philosophy all of those kind of things,

2050
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 4: but he was once a tour guy at Glacier National Park.

2051
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 3: There's part of that.

2052
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 4: Because we leave no stone unturned here on Fox Football Sunday,

2053
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,759
Speaker 4: Mike Harmon, Andy Furman, Bucky Brooks with you at Andy

2054
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,600
Speaker 4: Furman FSR. To get the legend on Twitter or x

2055
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Speaker 4: as it has become at Bucky Brooks find me over

2056
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 4: at Swollen Dome. As we continue here, we'll take our

2057
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 4: We're gonna turn away from football for a moment, guys,

2058
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:39,879
Speaker 4: because we've got a team trying to do some major

2059
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:42,680
Speaker 4: damage control. And I think if you were to put

2060
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 4: a giant pie chart out of their likelihood of retaining

2061
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 4: a superstar. I think the window is starting to close

2062
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 4: on a minute by minute basis.

2063
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Speaker 3: We'll tell you who it is, what it's all about next.

2064
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Speaker 3: Here on Fox.

2065
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Speaker 2: He's Mike Carmen, I'm Dan Byer. We have a brand

2066
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Speaker 2: new fantasy football podcast called I Want Your Flex. Twice

2067
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2068
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2069
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2070
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Speaker 2: look ahead of what's coming up in the fantasy football world.

2071
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2072
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,040
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2073
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:20,920
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2074
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2075
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2076
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2077
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2078
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2080
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2083
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2084
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2085
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2091
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:13,719
Speaker 4: The quiz that I failed regarding the National Football League, gentlemen,

2092
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 4: I was ashamed of myself yesterday, and I'm gonna lay

2093
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,560
Speaker 4: myself out to the American public and to you, my

2094
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:23,600
Speaker 4: esteem colleagues after we hear from Nick Cope in a

2095
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:27,440
Speaker 4: couple of minutes, because truly I'm ashamed. But it illuminates

2096
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 4: a giant story we've been following in the National Football League,

2097
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 4: that's what you call it teas, but in Major League

2098
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 4: Baseball because it affects all of us psychologically. The show

2099
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 4: Heyo Tawani injury, the UCL injury that shocked America, fatigue

2100
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 4: in his arm once again, and finally get the check

2101
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 4: and down he goes, still get to DH still doing

2102
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 4: great things at the plate, et cetera.

2103
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 3: But you want to talk about.

2104
01:35:56,080 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 4: Cya and blaming somebody else. Perryman the GM told reporters

2105
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 4: on Saturday Gentlemen that Otani and his agent they decline

2106
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 4: to undergo imaging exams after he experienced cramping in his

2107
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 4: pitching hand and fingers during an August third start against

2108
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:16,839
Speaker 4: the Seattle Mariners, because lots of questions have been raised

2109
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 4: about the arm fatigue, the early exits, the act extra

2110
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 4: day's rest required here in the last month. I gotta say,

2111
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 4: I if I'm an Angels fan, I'm feeling like my

2112
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:34,520
Speaker 4: opportunity to retain Shoheo Tani goes down every time Manassian

2113
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 4: opens his mouth, and the injury does open the door

2114
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,639
Speaker 4: to more teams, at least thinking they could do a

2115
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 4: slide deck presentation and an elevator pitch. But this one

2116
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 4: Fellas you know, we talk about owners like Jim Irsay

2117
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 4: and others putting their foot in their mouth. This one

2118
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 4: seems fruitless. Andy Furman, you did pr You do PR

2119
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 4: and reporting. What do you make of this from Perry

2120
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 4: Manassian of the angel trying to put this out there?

2121
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 6: Let to lock him in a closet. That's what I'd

2122
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 6: like to do, really, but you know what, I think

2123
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 6: the days of Oshania are kind of numbered.

2124
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 7: Anyway.

2125
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 6: I would have loved to see him finish the season

2126
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 6: healthy and perhaps win both the MVP and the Cy.

2127
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:16,759
Speaker 7: Young Award now within him both.

2128
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:17,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be.

2129
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:19,880
Speaker 6: Great, you know really, but look, he wants out, but

2130
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 6: he doesn't want to stay in California. He'll probably be

2131
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 6: a Dodger next year, and that's fine, and I'll tell

2132
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 6: you what, I want to see him on a bigger stage.

2133
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 6: It's a shame that that guy who could possibly be

2134
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 6: the face for Major League Baseball. And think about this, guys,

2135
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 6: think about this, who is basically the face of Major

2136
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 6: League Baseball? I think of sporting league needs a face

2137
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 6: right now. I guess you'd have to say Steph Curry

2138
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 6: is the face of the NBA. Perhaps I don't know.

2139
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 6: I can't figure it out. You know, Kobe's gone. God

2140
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 6: may rest his soul. But Shani maybe the face with baseball.

2141
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 6: Who's the face of the NFL?

2142
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 7: My homes.

2143
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 6: Maybe the NFL doesn't need a face, I don't know,

2144
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 6: but I know Baseball definitely does. They need some work,

2145
01:37:57,520 --> 01:37:59,600
Speaker 6: and he's a guy that could really help on a

2146
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 6: big state. He's not getting it done with the Angels.

2147
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: He's certainly not getting it done. I mean, he's not

2148
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 1: going to get it done there.

2149
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 8: It's unfortunate that injury really takes away from what is

2150
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 8: a remarkable story guy being able to throw like he throws,

2151
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 8: in hit like he hits. But I would love to

2152
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 8: see him in LA with the Dodgers. I think that's

2153
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 8: a nice fit.

2154
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 1: Just move up the freeway a little bit. Uh, it

2155
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 1: would be a big deal.

2156
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 8: But you know, just just hearing you read the TV,

2157
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 8: they say San Francisco will be major in play.

2158
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 4: Gosh, think about the opportunity here. Yeah, Row, Well, he's

2159
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 4: been hanging with it in the off season. You've got

2160
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:45,559
Speaker 4: a lot of young talent, uh since falling ten community

2161
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 4: in the division.

2162
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, the community would be very welcoming to him up

2163
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:51,879
Speaker 8: there in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Like, it'd be a nice fit. Gosh, it would be

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Speaker 1: nice to keep him in LA though.

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Speaker 3: Well, that that's it, I would argue.

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01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 4: I guess as we get towards the postseason, and maybe

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01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 4: it's me a bit of a push and where we

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01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 4: are geographically being in Los Angeles, Mookie Betts is one

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01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 4: of those guys that I think is starting to transcend

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01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 4: a little bit. Freddie Freeman a little bit. The El

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01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 4: Segundo Little league team getting ready to go play the

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01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 4: international squads, and Freddie Freeman has been their biggest cheerleader

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01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 4: in the social media sphere, et cetera. But what the

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01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:29,600
Speaker 4: Dodgers have running right now is a whole other machine.

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01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 4: But to your point, Andy, Yeah, for Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 4: I guess you had a blip where it was Aaron

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01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 4: Judge Otani to a degree. But you know what was

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01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,440
Speaker 4: interesting about the Otani injury and the day it was announced,

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01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 4: Mike Trout also went back to the IL And that's

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01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 4: like an afterthought afterthought at this point, given the number

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01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 4: of injuries that have derailed his career.

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01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 6: These last couples, who is the list face of Major

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01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 6: League bas we took about Aaron Judge.

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01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 7: I think Ken Griffy Jr. Maybe I don't know.

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01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 6: I mean, baseball needs it more than more than any

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01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 6: other sport. Baseball needs I mean everything they do, they

2188
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,679
Speaker 6: step in a bunch of you know what poop. I mean,

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01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 6: when they have the Cooperstown inductions, why not have a

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01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:12,599
Speaker 6: total day off of games? They have games the day

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01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 6: that have the inductions of Cooperstown. How stupid is that?

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01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 7: Right?

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01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 4: I can't argue that point for sure. I won't give

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01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 4: Major League Baseball they're one credit for as much as

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01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:25,639
Speaker 4: they may be at a glacier pace and a lot

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01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 4: of changes, and obviously we had a lot of rules

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01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 4: changes this year. Attendance is up because you've got a

2198
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 4: bunch of franchises like Baltimore had another forty thousand attendants yesterday.

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01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 4: You've got some teams that are competitive that haven't been

2200
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 4: in a long time, so you get some spikes there,

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01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 4: you know. Meanwhile, I've got my White Sox where I

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01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 4: think I could count thirty five people.

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01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 7: They're the four someone got shot the other time?

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01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:48,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2205
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 4: That you got that going on too? Oh it is,

2206
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 4: it's hard times. They were supposed to have a Vanilla

2207
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 4: ice concert after that game. How about that? And then

2208
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 4: they were trying to claim that the shot came from

2209
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:05,799
Speaker 4: outside the stadium and somehow found its way inside the seats.

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01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:07,799
Speaker 6: I thought they had screening when you go to a pulgan,

2211
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:09,639
Speaker 6: don't they have those things you got to go through?

2212
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, but as you know, there's always ways around

2213
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:18,559
Speaker 4: a lot of things. Andy, you put up barriers people

2214
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:22,679
Speaker 4: are always going to try to find the workaround. Well, sure,

2215
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 4: but you know sometimes the sensitivity on those and let's

2216
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 4: face it, the enthusiasm of the person administering the wand

2217
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 4: is going to wane on a day to day basis, right,

2218
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 4: how much do they want.

2219
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 3: To be there to do that job? Eight degrees on

2220
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 3: a Thursday night in August.

2221
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:41,760
Speaker 7: You save at the airport too, No, that's right.

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01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 4: I mean you've got some that are maybe a bit

2223
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 4: over zealous, but in the name of what we're supposed

2224
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 4: to be looking at its security, I think I'll take

2225
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 4: the over zealousness over the non committal side of things.

2226
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 4: But I'll give Baseball credit for one thing, and then

2227
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 4: we'll move to Nick and then get back into me

2228
01:41:58,800 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 4: being an idiot.

2229
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:00,839
Speaker 3: In the NFL side of things.

2230
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 4: Is the fact that they were first to start really

2231
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 4: doing the streaming of audio and video, and as a

2232
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 4: Chicago transplant when I was living in upstate New York,

2233
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,839
Speaker 4: the fact that I could listen to the White Sox

2234
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 4: on the radio and Ed Farmer or watch it on

2235
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 4: TV with Ken Harrelson was just huge for me. Right

2236
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 4: to keep those connections as you flowed so everybody else's

2237
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 4: and streaming is caught up and now it's ubiquitous. But

2238
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 4: I remember a time where that was the game that

2239
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 4: got us all flowing. And if we at Yahoo when

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Speaker 4: I worked there, fellas had done anything properly with what

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01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 4: Mark Cuban had once established so he could listen to

2242
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 4: his beloved Indiana Hoosiers basketball, i'd be on an island

2243
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 4: and you'd have never met me. But by time we

2244
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 4: actually did something with the technology, Well, life goes on.

2245
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 4: That'll be in my book, to be published in about

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01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 4: twenty twenty years from now, after I'm long gone and

2247
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 4: shed this mortal coil. He's Andy, He's Mucky Brooks Hen

2248
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 4: Mike Garman coming up? Why harm it is? Is an idiot?

2249
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 4: And why you know recent memory sometimes fails you. I

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Speaker 4: need some more Ginko boloba in my tea. But first,

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01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 4: it's Nick Cope, who's got an update on everything from

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01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 4: the overnight shuffle up and deal Nick, what do you got?

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01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:21,680
Speaker 9: Shuffle All right, let's go to baseball and get all

2254
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,600
Speaker 9: the notable scores in here for you. Cubs over the

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01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 9: Pirates ten to six. Chicago's got that second wild card

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01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 9: in the NL. They're four back of Milwaukee in the division.

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01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 9: Brewers keep on winning seven straight wins now as they

2258
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 9: edge the Padres five to four. Got the Reds beating

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01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 9: the d Backs and Extras eight to seven. Since he

2260
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:43,360
Speaker 9: just a half game back of Arizona for the final

2261
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 9: wildcard spot in the NL, Phillies have the top wildcard spot.

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01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 9: They cruise pass the Cardinals twelve to one. On the

2263
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 9: al side of things, Rangers beat the Twins to snap

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01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:57,759
Speaker 9: an eight game losing streak. Mariners crush the Royals fifteen

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01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 9: to two. Texas and Seattle still tied atop the Ale.

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01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 9: West Ray shut out the Yankees three to nothing, Orioles

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01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 9: over the Rockies five to four. Tampa the top ALE

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01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 9: wild card team right now and they sit three back

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01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 9: of Baltimore in the division. Also had the Red Sox

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01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 9: beating the Dodgers eight five, Braves the best record in baseball.

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01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 9: They won again seven to three against the Giants. College

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01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:22,839
Speaker 9: football was Week zero, but we had some ranked teams.

2273
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 9: Number six USC with a strong second half, they pull

2274
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 9: away from San Jose State fifty six to twenty eight.

2275
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 9: Caleb Williams for sc threw for four touchdowns. Also a

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01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 9: four touchdown season opener for New Notre Dame quarterback Sam Hartman,

2277
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:42,639
Speaker 9: number thirteen ranked Irish all over Navy forty two to three.

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01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,640
Speaker 9: Let's go to the NFL. We saw Aaron Rodgers in

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01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 9: a Jets uniform for the first time through a touchdown

2280
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 9: pass to Garrett Wilson and their preseason finale against the Giants.

2281
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 9: Dolphins and Jaguars cut their preseason game short after Miami

2282
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 9: receiver Daywood Davis was carted off the field on a

2283
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 9: stretcher in the fourth quarter and taken to the hospital.

2284
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 9: Dolphins later announced Davis had movement in all his extremities.

2285
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 9: Buccaneers Pro Bowl center Ryan Jensen placed on injured reserve

2286
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 9: with a knee injury. Cleveland Playing Dealer reports Browns receiver

2287
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 9: Jakeem Grant may have suffered a broken patella in his

2288
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:22,600
Speaker 9: knee that would knock him out for the season. He

2289
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 9: will have an MRI today to confirm. Lado Messi scored

2290
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 9: his ninth goal in eleven games as interer. Miami beat

2291
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 9: the New York Red Bulls, and the final round of

2292
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 9: Golf's Tour Championship is coming up today. Victor Hovlin is

2293
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 9: six shots clear of the field at twenty under. Now,

2294
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 9: let's go back to Mike Harmon, Andy Furman and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Nick.

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01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:46,640
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Speaker 4: we've talked a lot this offseason about the plight of

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01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 4: the running back. Might have held the telethon twenty four

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01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 4: hours can get a couple of musical acts in try

2304
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:16,679
Speaker 4: to raise awareness and funds for the off maligned position.

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01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 4: You know, last year we had sixteen players rush for

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01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 4: over a thousand yards, including Bears quarterback Justin Fields. But

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01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 4: did you know, and this is where I felt dumb.

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01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 4: I did one of those quizzes. You know, you're sitting around,

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01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 4: you get bored, and then you start tooling around websites like, Hey,

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01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 4: would you like to take the sports quizzesten, sure, let's

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01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 4: go name the last thousand yard rusher from each team.

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01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:45,400
Speaker 4: Would you believe that there are nine teams, nine teams

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01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 4: in your NFL that have not had a thousand yard

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01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 4: rushers since twenty seventeen. Wow, nine teams since twenty seventeen,

2315
01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 4: so that's crazy. Yeah, I mean you look at the

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01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals. You want to go on the way back machine.

2317
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 4: There was once a time amount of time that David

2318
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 4: Johnson was a big deal.

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01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:07,719
Speaker 3: How about the Buffalo Bills.

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01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:09,799
Speaker 4: You want to guess who the last guy was for Buffalo,

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01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:14,480
Speaker 4: Andy Bucky Either you want to take again Thomas Thomas?

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01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 7: Okay, not quite that far.

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01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 3: Wow, we just took a little bit of a time warp.

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01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 3: I like that though. I mean, but that's the point

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01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 3: of this conversation, right is that ma I'm.

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01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:29,360
Speaker 1: Trying to think, when's the last time to had a

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01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:30,240
Speaker 1: notable back.

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01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 4: So seventeen, it was shady in twenty seventeen. How about Denver?

2329
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 4: This is twenty nineteen, so it goes again stars, but

2330
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 4: the player stands out because you know, we go back

2331
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 4: to Denver. When you talk about the post, Terrell stands no.

2332
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 1: Elvin Gordon, no.

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01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:02,920
Speaker 4: Phill Uplyn's Lindsey got just over one thousand yards. That

2334
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:05,639
Speaker 4: was twenty nineteen, so that breaks away. But there were

2335
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 4: nine teams that haven't done it since at least twenty seventeen.

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01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 4: Melvin Gordon does show up on the list that was

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01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:16,640
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen for the Chargers when he did that. But

2338
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 4: you've got all of these squads, and again showing the

2339
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 4: changing face of the running back position for New Orleans

2340
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 4: are now Fox colleague mark Ingram that goes back to

2341
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen, which is really kind of a wow. Okay,

2342
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:33,599
Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara with all the work that he does, no,

2343
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 4: hasn't done it for the Jets. Chris Ivory, Oh my goodness,

2344
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,919
Speaker 4: I mean twenty fifteen, Chris Ivory.

2345
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 7: So so we go all the way down.

2346
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 4: Well, the Bears, you at least have justin fields last year,

2347
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 4: so that still counts, right, even though it's not not

2348
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 4: a running back. But I guess the point is, you know,

2349
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 4: the position as a whole, as we've talked about, is fractured,

2350
01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 4: and you've got multiple backs, but then you add the

2351
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:02,760
Speaker 4: quarterbacks into things. And to Indianapolis, where I guess they're

2352
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 4: looking at a committee situation again, another Northwestern guy makes

2353
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 4: his way in there. And no, I'm not talking about

2354
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 4: the Colts just for that, but if Jonathan Taylor is

2355
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 4: actually dealt and they don't mend fences and find some

2356
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 4: happy medium. I mean, Anthony Richardson's probably poised to be

2357
01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 4: their leading rusher this year.

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01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 1: Maybe. So here's the thing, A couple of things. The observation.

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01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 8: One, you made the point about thousand yard rushers, right so,

2360
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:34,120
Speaker 8: and reading off that list, when you say that, to me,

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01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 8: it speaks to maybe the difference between hey, let's just

2362
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:41,240
Speaker 8: get it back and let's have a back sure, meaning

2363
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 8: a franchise back like a Jonathan Taylor. Because the fact

2364
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 8: that we couldn't remember who were the last thousand yard

2365
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:50,760
Speaker 8: rushers not only symbolizes how far we've come at the

2366
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 8: position where that used to be the marquee position in

2367
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 8: the National Football League, the running back sweetness and Earl

2368
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 8: Campbell and Eric Dickerson and Marcus Allen and all that.

2369
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 8: And I know the game is change, but the fact

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01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 8: that we can't even rattle off running backs is crazy.

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01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:07,599
Speaker 8: Second thing, when it comes to Jonathan Taylor, Jonathan Taylor

2372
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 8: has to understand what the marketplace is right now.

2373
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 1: The league has increasingly become a passing league.

2374
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 8: The running backs that get paid, Christian McCaffrey, Alvin Kamar,

2375
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 8: you have to be what Levy and Bell said years

2376
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 8: ago RB one wide receiver two, meaning you have to

2377
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 8: be able to get in the one thousand, one hundred club,

2378
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 8: one thousand yards rushing, one hundred receptions, a thousand and

2379
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 8: a thousand club, a thousand yards rushing one thousand receiving.

2380
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:36,120
Speaker 8: You have to have that potential for a team to

2381
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 8: want to open up the bank and write a big check.

2382
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:42,160
Speaker 6: Because UNI for a second, with the Jonathan Taylor situation,

2383
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 6: I think it's somewhat different. I'm not so certain it's

2384
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 6: money as much as just wants to get out of

2385
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 6: Indianapolis because he requested a trade.

2386
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:50,640
Speaker 7: It wasn't a situation.

2387
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:52,479
Speaker 1: Because I am because because.

2388
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 6: They haven't paid him yet. But he wants out of

2389
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 6: there anyway, you know, but Ers said no. He first

2390
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 6: didn't there say say no first, and then he said, okay,

2391
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:01,600
Speaker 6: I'll let you go.

2392
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:05,839
Speaker 8: Now, well he wanted he wouldn't pay him. He wouldn't

2393
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 8: pay him because he's in the last year of his deal.

2394
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 8: He's making He's supposed to make over four million dollars

2395
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 8: this year. But as a running back, you want to

2396
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,799
Speaker 8: make sure that before you play that into that last

2397
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 8: year of you deal. You want to get paid to

2398
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 8: protect yourself against any injury for him. Unfortunately, he got

2399
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 8: hurt last year and so the money that he's looking for,

2400
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 8: that Christian McCaffrey Alvan Kamar contract, it's not coming. Those

2401
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 8: deals are no longer going to running backs. We haven't

2402
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:34,400
Speaker 8: seen that since McCaffrey got it. So the market is

2403
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 8: now eleven or twelve million dollars are your top guys,

2404
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 8: and so he doesn't want to settle for that. And

2405
01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 8: that's why is like, well, the beat to keep going on,

2406
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:45,560
Speaker 8: even though I think it's silly because you have a

2407
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 8: rookie quarterback.

2408
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 1: The last thing you want to do.

2409
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 8: Is have a rookie quarterback with no running game. So

2410
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:53,559
Speaker 8: ers needs to pipe down. But it's not the best

2411
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 8: business plan, I would say for the Colts.

2412
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,120
Speaker 4: Not the best for them. But you know, Ersa said

2413
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 4: the quiet part out loud, and maybe I'm the only

2414
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:05,679
Speaker 4: idiot that'll back him to a degree on this stuff.

2415
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 4: Is you are coming off a pretty significant injury where

2416
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 4: right now we've been asking Andy Bucky for the last

2417
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:17,559
Speaker 4: couple of weeks how much of his unavailability was just

2418
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 4: sour grapes over his contract versus his ankle still isn't

2419
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:24,880
Speaker 4: right right, So who's giving you a giant bag when

2420
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 4: you miss half a season? I know, twenty twenty one,

2421
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:30,800
Speaker 4: he was a beast the years before that played really well.

2422
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 4: How am I showing up with the giant novelty size

2423
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 4: check what? I don't know what he is at this

2424
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 4: point and just telling me he's twenty four and he

2425
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 4: did it before. I've seen this. We've watched this game

2426
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 4: long enough, guys. I mean, I can't bank on everything

2427
01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 4: returning to what it once was.

2428
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:51,680
Speaker 6: I don't like whatever say said, he says Sony to

2429
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 6: the effect, I'm kind of a kind of summarizing what

2430
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 6: he said that we're going to continue even if you're

2431
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:57,559
Speaker 6: not here.

2432
01:52:57,680 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he said I'll be dead and you'll be rich,

2433
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 3: and the will.

2434
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:03,680
Speaker 7: I mean, that's discussion, it really is.

2435
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 1: I mean it is, but there's some truth to it.

2436
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 8: He's just letting them know, like the train keeps on moving,

2437
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 8: and so either you're here or you're not, but we're

2438
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:13,559
Speaker 8: gonna proceed it on.

2439
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that part of it.

2440
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 8: You don't necessarily want to say it out loud, though,

2441
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 8: you don't wait for public assumption, but that's something that

2442
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 8: you tell his agent.

2443
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, we're.

2444
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 8: Going to keep playing, just like Andy Ree said the

2445
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 8: same thing about Chris Jones. They want them, but I

2446
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 8: can't let you think that, Oh my gosh, we're gonna

2447
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 8: fall apart if you're not here for Jonathan Taylor.

2448
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:38,400
Speaker 1: The big issue now is to.

2449
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:42,120
Speaker 8: The point where it's so contentious and acrimonious that maybe

2450
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:44,840
Speaker 8: you can't bring him back. And it's weird because what

2451
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:48,600
Speaker 8: has been said is he changed representation and the negotiation

2452
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 8: changed between he and the team. So everyone wants their money,

2453
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 8: but I don't know what is. There's no recourse for him.

2454
01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 8: He can't hold out, he can't do anything. The five

2455
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 8: schedule is crazy. They've already given him a break, letting

2456
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 8: him have kind of like time away and those things.

2457
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 8: But now it becomes fifty thousand dollars a day when

2458
01:54:09,439 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 8: he's away, and you can't wave those fines if you

2459
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 8: sign another deal.

2460
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 7: So who's the running back? I mean, think about it.

2461
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 7: Once he's gone. What do they got?

2462
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 6: Guys like Jake Funk, Deon Jackson, and Zach Moss. Boy,

2463
01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 6: they got Kenyon Drake. I think they signed him to.

2464
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 3: And have it a hole go cats.

2465
01:54:25,120 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, Deon Jackson is a guy who he's

2466
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:30,600
Speaker 4: moderately interesting, but to your point, yeah, there's no workhorse

2467
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 4: to be had. We'll talk about this in a larger

2468
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:34,640
Speaker 4: scale because we've got to bring it back out to

2469
01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 4: rookie quarterbacks. And now that the preseason's done, what story?

2470
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:42,600
Speaker 4: Are you thankful that we finally get some results instead

2471
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 4: of all of the we'll just chewing the fat on

2472
01:54:45,080 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 4: the microphones. We'll do that next year on Fox. Oh yeah,

2473
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 4: let's get it on another beautiful hour on a Fox

2474
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 4: Football Sunday, Mike Carbon alongside Bucky Brooks with you. Our

2475
01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:56,400
Speaker 4: guy Andy Furman tags out for this one. We'll see

2476
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Speaker 4: him again next week as we get things rolling. Give

2477
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2478
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2479
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Speaker 4: way tire buying should be. So, Bucky, our long national

2485
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 4: nightmare is over, and I have one huge question coming

2486
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 4: out of your Jacksonville Jaguars broadcast. What happened to the

2487
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:31,160
Speaker 4: logo at midfield.

2488
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:32,560
Speaker 1: I didn't even what happened.

2489
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 3: There was no logo.

2490
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:37,080
Speaker 8: Oh, they gave him just a little generic, just a

2491
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 8: little generic treatment. Even the end zones were in that

2492
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:44,880
Speaker 8: that basic generic H logo. They saving it can sid

2493
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:47,120
Speaker 8: The Chiefs are coming week two. I'm sure the logo

2494
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 8: will be there.

2495
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:48,440
Speaker 3: What's it gonna do?

2496
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 4: Light on fire like it's pyrotechnics at a WWE event.

2497
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 1: Maybe it might be, might be a little bit.

2498
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 4: I think that would be kind of cool. All of

2499
01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:59,360
Speaker 4: a sudden it started blowing and kind of crazy. I

2500
01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 4: mean that's the way you try to throw off Mahomes

2501
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:03,160
Speaker 4: in that offense. As you get things going early in

2502
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:03,920
Speaker 4: a season.

2503
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 5: Why not.

2504
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna have to do something.

2505
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:08,600
Speaker 3: Something for the disruption there.

2506
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:12,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, because they are clicking on all setlings and they're

2507
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 8: going to be the defending champs, are going to hit

2508
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 8: the ground run and that's what they.

2509
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:20,760
Speaker 4: Do, especially bringing in some young receivers. Once again, people say, well,

2510
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 4: how do they do this, Well, you have Mahomes, you

2511
01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 4: have Kelsey. You still need to figure out how to

2512
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 4: get Chris Jones back in because that's a big part

2513
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 4: of the defensive side of things. And schemes for Spagnolo

2514
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:36,720
Speaker 4: and company. But you've got Rashi, Rice, You've got Tony,

2515
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 4: You've got some of these young receivers that look like

2516
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 4: they're going to be a problem. Justin Ross a guy

2517
01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 4: that we're excited about. But for your Jaguars, I had

2518
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 4: a successful preseason. We're coming out of it. The hype

2519
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 4: machine for Trevor Lawrence certainly is there. I saw a

2520
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 4: guy in a stream, Bucky, because you know me and

2521
01:56:57,040 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 4: my weird obsession with trading cards and members Billia. They

2522
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:04,440
Speaker 4: did an anime set for one of the football products

2523
01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 4: like two years ago, and he looked like he was

2524
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 4: the way they did him up, like he was a

2525
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 4: prince from a Disney movie. So it is time for

2526
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence to take up that next path. What are

2527
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:17,440
Speaker 4: we expecting as this year or two of him and

2528
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 4: Doug Peterson.

2529
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:22,280
Speaker 8: Expect him to take his game up a notch. He

2530
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 8: has been terrific in the preseason. Don't know if he

2531
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 8: had the opportunity to check him out last night, but man,

2532
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:29,560
Speaker 8: they were on fire up and down the field.

2533
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley gives.

2534
01:57:31,160 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 8: Them a legitimate, high end number one receiver and to

2535
01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:38,400
Speaker 8: tell you, the difference. He's an AA plus receiver. So

2536
01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 8: now so you're able to reset the lineup with Christian

2537
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 8: kirk Evan ingram z A. Jones filling rolls on the backside.

2538
01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 8: They put Calvin Ridley all by himself three receivers on

2539
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 8: the other side, and depending on what you do in coverage,

2540
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:53,720
Speaker 8: it is pitching cats from Trevor Lawrence to number zero.

2541
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 8: They've added another running back in Tank Bigsby. I'm gonna

2542
01:57:57,720 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 8: tell all the fantasy people if you're looking at Jack

2543
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:02,520
Speaker 8: to get, if you get Travis Attim, make sure you

2544
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 8: get Tank Bigsby, because I can envision this being a

2545
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 8: share lineup whereas not quite fifty to fifty, but it

2546
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:12,920
Speaker 8: might be sixty forty, maybe fifty five forty five where

2547
01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 8: Bigsby's going to play a major role in that. Trevor

2548
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 8: Lawrence being able to have all of these weapons. Second

2549
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 8: year under Doug Peterson, he is now more decisive, more confident.

2550
01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:26,280
Speaker 8: I think you'll see those numbers go crazy this year.

2551
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:28,840
Speaker 4: By the way, my man's name is Tank Bigsby. I

2552
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 4: mean that's enough of a cell before you even get going.

2553
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:34,560
Speaker 4: I know they've built out the all name team with

2554
01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 4: some of the nicknames and creative naming process for a

2555
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 4: number of the college prospects this year. But yeah, folks

2556
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:45,360
Speaker 4: seem to are now getting reacquainted with Calvin Ridley and

2557
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:48,360
Speaker 4: how good he was. Remember the trade that went down

2558
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:51,840
Speaker 4: during his suspension. A fifth round choice in this year's

2559
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:55,879
Speaker 4: draft and a fourth round in next year's now depending

2560
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 4: on how he performs and all, Yeah, that changes up

2561
01:58:58,920 --> 01:59:02,280
Speaker 4: a little bit. But we work that in contrast to

2562
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 4: a trade you alluded to and a storyline that had

2563
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:09,800
Speaker 4: become fairly nauseating the last couple of weeks. And that's

2564
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:14,240
Speaker 4: the Trey Lance situation in San Francisco. Now traded to

2565
01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys. A fourth round pick is what they

2566
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 4: get in return. Look to me, it goes back to

2567
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 4: the old economic principle of sunk costs at this point. Yes,

2568
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:27,880
Speaker 4: it's three first round picks and a fourth and all

2569
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:32,000
Speaker 4: that was put in on his name. They whiffed, but

2570
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:36,120
Speaker 4: trying to hold on as some suggested they should have done. Well,

2571
01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:39,000
Speaker 4: you're gonna maybe carry three quarterbacks, but they saw enough

2572
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 4: to where he wasn't beating out Sam Darnold. That tells me,

2573
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:46,600
Speaker 4: at least for their purposes, they were done with him. Also,

2574
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:49,600
Speaker 4: the fact that they were willing to trade him in

2575
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:53,320
Speaker 4: conference to a team that is a historical rival, even

2576
01:59:53,320 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 4: if in recent years maybe not the same level of

2577
01:59:56,680 --> 02:00:00,000
Speaker 4: ankst to it, but certainly highlight reels whenever we see

2578
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:02,440
Speaker 4: aren't getting towards the playoffs, go back to some of

2579
02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:06,400
Speaker 4: those glory days. Is telling me that trading him to

2580
02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:10,040
Speaker 4: Dallas means we really don't think this is the guy. So, yeah,

2581
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:11,640
Speaker 4: this is the best offer we got.

2582
02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 7: Move on.

2583
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:17,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, that's what happened. He's not the guy.

2584
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:20,600
Speaker 8: We're comfortable trading him within the conference. We don't fear

2585
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:23,600
Speaker 8: seeing him. You give us a fourth round pick. And

2586
02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:27,480
Speaker 8: just so you understand, Mike, in the scouting world, a

2587
02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:29,400
Speaker 8: fourth round pick, anything fourth or.

2588
02:00:29,320 --> 02:00:31,400
Speaker 1: Lower is just viewed as a developmental prospect.

2589
02:00:31,800 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 8: So basically they flipped the number three overall pick. And

2590
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:41,040
Speaker 8: for clarity, a top five pick is viewed as someone

2591
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:44,080
Speaker 8: I mean, David Gelman said it best. When you take

2592
02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:46,800
Speaker 8: someone in the top five, you want to envision that

2593
02:00:47,080 --> 02:00:50,120
Speaker 8: player eventually donning a gold jacket at the end of

2594
02:00:50,160 --> 02:00:50,640
Speaker 8: his career.

2595
02:00:51,480 --> 02:00:54,120
Speaker 1: That's how you supposed to grade those picks.

2596
02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:56,600
Speaker 8: So they took a guy that they envisioned in those

2597
02:00:56,640 --> 02:01:00,480
Speaker 8: meetings being a player who would be a Hall of

2598
02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:04,560
Speaker 8: Fame caliber quarterback and they flipped him for someone who

2599
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:09,240
Speaker 8: is a developmental prospect basically. So that's how far they missed.

2600
02:01:09,640 --> 02:01:14,200
Speaker 8: That's the value that you've lost in terms of failing

2601
02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:16,760
Speaker 8: to develop Trey Lance or trade Lance, failing to be

2602
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:18,880
Speaker 8: the player that you thought that he would be when

2603
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:20,400
Speaker 8: you drafted him from North Dakota State.

2604
02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:23,280
Speaker 4: See and part of me as we pull it back,

2605
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:26,520
Speaker 4: and obviously everybody's done the math and gone through the

2606
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:29,280
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one draft and started going, well, they could

2607
02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:32,040
Speaker 4: have gone here, here, here, and here is it's a

2608
02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:32,920
Speaker 4: little bit of hubris.

2609
02:01:32,920 --> 02:01:34,720
Speaker 3: So they've had a couple of big hits, right.

2610
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:37,840
Speaker 4: Obviously Nick Bosa, you look at Brandon Ayuk as a

2611
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:40,080
Speaker 4: guy that's played really well. But they've had a couple

2612
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:43,640
Speaker 4: of misfires in the first round. Famously twenty seventeen when

2613
02:01:43,640 --> 02:01:47,760
Speaker 4: they made that trade and got all chesty quote fleecing

2614
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Speaker 4: the Bears.

2615
02:01:48,240 --> 02:01:48,960
Speaker 3: And this is not a.

2616
02:01:51,120 --> 02:01:54,920
Speaker 4: Giant stumping ground for Mitchell Trubisky, but that trade didn't

2617
02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:56,840
Speaker 4: exactly work for them. The best player that came out

2618
02:01:56,880 --> 02:02:00,720
Speaker 4: of that was the Saints Scott Alvin Kamara later in

2619
02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:03,080
Speaker 4: the draft with picks that got you know, kind of

2620
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:06,400
Speaker 4: moved around there. But when we look at it, Bucky

2621
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:09,400
Speaker 4: is you know, he's a victim of circumstances that they

2622
02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:12,040
Speaker 4: didn't need him to be great. They didn't need him

2623
02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:14,840
Speaker 4: to see the field, right with all these other teams,

2624
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:17,240
Speaker 4: we're talking about Stroud, we're talking about young, we're talking

2625
02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:19,920
Speaker 4: about Anthony Richardson, We're talking about guys that need to

2626
02:02:19,960 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 4: play now and that you're depending on their development for

2627
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:27,440
Speaker 4: your squad success. In San Francisco, you had a team

2628
02:02:27,480 --> 02:02:30,240
Speaker 4: that was built to win. So if he developed great,

2629
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:33,000
Speaker 4: If not, well, you found other guys and now you

2630
02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:36,760
Speaker 4: luck into Brock Purdy and everything working there, at least

2631
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:38,280
Speaker 4: for the moment, because we got to put a pin

2632
02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 4: in that, because that's a whole other part of the conversation.

2633
02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:44,600
Speaker 4: Now you run out with him and Sam Darnold and

2634
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:48,160
Speaker 4: Brandon Allen will be your third as you go, and

2635
02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:50,960
Speaker 4: certainly you know Perdy coming off a big injury, that's

2636
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:53,000
Speaker 4: one that I kind of wring my hands a little bit,

2637
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:55,760
Speaker 4: going all right, I'd like a little more assuredness of

2638
02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:58,200
Speaker 4: what you've got flowing there. And then when Tom Brady

2639
02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:00,880
Speaker 4: was standing there with Mark Davis and you know, go

2640
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:03,040
Speaker 4: ruin their night before a preseason game.

2641
02:03:03,200 --> 02:03:04,320
Speaker 3: Everybody keeps going.

2642
02:03:04,120 --> 02:03:07,440
Speaker 4: Well what if week four dot dot dot, all of

2643
02:03:07,480 --> 02:03:11,200
Speaker 4: that fun. But for the forty nine ers, I mean,

2644
02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:14,360
Speaker 4: Trey Lance wasn't getting first team reps until he had

2645
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:17,560
Speaker 4: to and when given his opportunity. You can argue about

2646
02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:20,480
Speaker 4: play calling, you can argue about we know, positions that

2647
02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 4: a guy was put into he went and got hurt.

2648
02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:28,200
Speaker 4: That's not Shanahan's fault. You can't blame him for that.

2649
02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:32,080
Speaker 4: And so, you know, the I can only indict the

2650
02:03:32,280 --> 02:03:35,360
Speaker 4: team so much on this. They drafted from what they

2651
02:03:35,440 --> 02:03:39,360
Speaker 4: thought was a position of hey, let's go trade for

2652
02:03:39,400 --> 02:03:43,400
Speaker 4: this guy and we don't need him today. But unfortunately

2653
02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:46,240
Speaker 4: that if he's not going to be the guy in

2654
02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:49,760
Speaker 4: the immediate future, he kind of goes into mothballs a bit.

2655
02:03:50,800 --> 02:03:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, very true.

2656
02:03:53,840 --> 02:03:57,160
Speaker 8: It's very true if he's not in the immediate future,

2657
02:03:57,280 --> 02:04:02,040
Speaker 8: if he is not playing right away. I don't want

2658
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 8: to say you're wasting your time, but you're wasting a

2659
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:10,160
Speaker 8: lot of energy into someone who is not playing. And

2660
02:04:10,200 --> 02:04:12,440
Speaker 8: as you get into the regular season, it becomes about

2661
02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:18,000
Speaker 8: the opponent this week, and so Shanahana looked down the

2662
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:20,240
Speaker 8: feeling that, okay, trade you're developing, you're doing a good

2663
02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:23,320
Speaker 8: job or whatever. But I don't necessarily have the time

2664
02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:25,680
Speaker 8: to go to the other practice feeling and work with

2665
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:28,120
Speaker 8: you on your footwork when we got to get ready

2666
02:04:28,200 --> 02:04:31,480
Speaker 8: to take on the Niners. I mean not the Niners,

2667
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:35,520
Speaker 8: but the Seahawks or the Rams or the Cardinals. It's

2668
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:37,480
Speaker 8: hard to do both things. It's hard to be fully

2669
02:04:37,480 --> 02:04:41,600
Speaker 8: committed to developing the people when you're a schematic wizard

2670
02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:43,960
Speaker 8: and you're always trying to find the next best play

2671
02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:45,240
Speaker 8: to throw out on your opponent.

2672
02:04:45,640 --> 02:04:49,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like the response Jerry Jones had because people

2673
02:04:49,560 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 4: immediately start going, what does this mean for Dak Prescott?

2674
02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:57,080
Speaker 4: And I'll agree with Jerry Jones, it doesn't mean anything.

2675
02:04:57,960 --> 02:05:00,360
Speaker 4: It's a guy that you thought you could find value

2676
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:03,320
Speaker 4: and whether you actually get something from the bargain basement.

2677
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:06,200
Speaker 3: Right. It's like I go into a lot of thrift shops.

2678
02:05:06,760 --> 02:05:08,720
Speaker 4: I walk out of them ninety percent of the time

2679
02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:11,280
Speaker 4: without anything in my hands. But every once in a

2680
02:05:11,320 --> 02:05:13,760
Speaker 4: while there's a box of trading cards buried.

2681
02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:16,680
Speaker 3: There's some old frame.

2682
02:05:16,440 --> 02:05:18,640
Speaker 4: That I think looks kind of cool that eventually I'll

2683
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:21,480
Speaker 4: put a poster in or something for the wall that

2684
02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:24,680
Speaker 4: looks kind of cool. But for the most part, yeah,

2685
02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:28,200
Speaker 4: you shrug it and you move on. For Jerry Jones,

2686
02:05:29,480 --> 02:05:32,640
Speaker 4: it's the you know, guy in the room and a prospect.

2687
02:05:32,760 --> 02:05:35,080
Speaker 4: But he goes, if we're banking on him to come

2688
02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:38,280
Speaker 4: in and do anything, that, then we've gone wrong, Like

2689
02:05:38,680 --> 02:05:42,040
Speaker 4: he goes, I don't anticipate him having any effect on

2690
02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:45,400
Speaker 4: what we're doing on field for this year. At this point,

2691
02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:48,800
Speaker 4: he's a scout team quarterback that maybe you get a

2692
02:05:48,840 --> 02:05:52,040
Speaker 4: little bit of work that helps your defense leading up

2693
02:05:52,040 --> 02:05:53,840
Speaker 4: to game day, but they're not banking on him to

2694
02:05:53,880 --> 02:05:57,320
Speaker 4: come in. It doesn't affect Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott's still

2695
02:05:57,320 --> 02:06:00,760
Speaker 4: gonna get his bag. Like what he's suddenly going to

2696
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:04,680
Speaker 4: unlock in Trey Lance that makes you believe that Dak

2697
02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:08,240
Speaker 4: Prescott's future is in doubt, Like that talking point to

2698
02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:11,440
Speaker 4: me in terms of nauseating things that one's just getting

2699
02:06:11,480 --> 02:06:15,360
Speaker 4: started here, Bucky and every throw that Dak makes or

2700
02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:18,640
Speaker 4: throw that is nearly picked off or if they get

2701
02:06:18,680 --> 02:06:21,560
Speaker 4: off to a slow start, Like to me, it's one

2702
02:06:21,560 --> 02:06:23,960
Speaker 4: of the worst narratives I've heard come out of all

2703
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:26,840
Speaker 4: of this and you know me, I'm a big fan

2704
02:06:27,320 --> 02:06:30,120
Speaker 4: not really of hot take nonsense, but this one's already

2705
02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:31,879
Speaker 4: taken the cake after forty eight hours.

2706
02:06:33,760 --> 02:06:37,440
Speaker 8: It is nonsense. But let's go behind the curtain as

2707
02:06:37,520 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 8: to why it could be something down the line. Mike

2708
02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:45,200
Speaker 8: McCarthy comes from Green Bay. When he was in Green Bay,

2709
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:47,800
Speaker 8: Ted Thompson, who's the disciple of Ron Wolf, was the

2710
02:06:47,840 --> 02:06:51,520
Speaker 8: general manager. Ron Wolf has always said you should always

2711
02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:53,960
Speaker 8: be into quarterback business. Sure, every other year you need

2712
02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:56,880
Speaker 8: to draft a quarterback. When they are good quarterbacks on

2713
02:06:56,920 --> 02:06:58,880
Speaker 8: the street, you need to bring him in and develop them.

2714
02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:03,720
Speaker 8: They are the highest return on investment trade commodity that

2715
02:07:03,800 --> 02:07:06,760
Speaker 8: you could find. If you can find a quarterback, you

2716
02:07:06,800 --> 02:07:09,640
Speaker 8: can showcase him in preseason, showcase him in a two

2717
02:07:09,720 --> 02:07:13,640
Speaker 8: game run. It brings back significant stuff going all the

2718
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:16,320
Speaker 8: way back to when Ron and those guys the Green

2719
02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:20,280
Speaker 8: Bay Packers. Aaron Brooks was a backup for the Packers,

2720
02:07:20,520 --> 02:07:23,080
Speaker 8: goes Saints as a starter and they did it. You

2721
02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:28,040
Speaker 8: know who was the quarterback coach coordinator, Mike McCarthy, So

2722
02:07:28,560 --> 02:07:32,040
Speaker 8: he's seen it happen. Trey Lance might not be for

2723
02:07:32,080 --> 02:07:34,120
Speaker 8: the Cowboys, but he may be somebody who is a

2724
02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:35,120
Speaker 8: number three overall pick.

2725
02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:37,000
Speaker 1: So let's say he has a pedigree in talent.

2726
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:40,360
Speaker 8: Let's say that Mike McCarthy pours into him in the

2727
02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:44,280
Speaker 8: offseason to develop him footwork, arm talent skills, teaches him

2728
02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:46,920
Speaker 8: how to play the position. Let's say Trey Lance tears

2729
02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:50,480
Speaker 8: it up in the preseason. Let's say Trey Lance plays

2730
02:07:50,480 --> 02:07:52,440
Speaker 8: a game or two in the regular season somehow because

2731
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:58,040
Speaker 8: Dak sprains an ankle. Now, all those Trey Lance stuns

2732
02:07:58,120 --> 02:08:01,000
Speaker 8: from back in the day when they come back sniffing,

2733
02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:04,840
Speaker 8: and maybe you parlay it into a draft pick. That's

2734
02:08:04,840 --> 02:08:07,960
Speaker 8: why you invest in Trey Lance because you're trying to

2735
02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:11,080
Speaker 8: think about not the Dak Prescott move, but how can

2736
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:14,560
Speaker 8: I parlay this into some potential picks like Andy Reid

2737
02:08:14,600 --> 02:08:18,520
Speaker 8: has done with Aj Feeley, as Kevin Cobb and some

2738
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:19,600
Speaker 8: of those other guys.

2739
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:21,680
Speaker 1: It is never a bad thing to take a chance

2740
02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:22,400
Speaker 1: on a quarterback.

2741
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:25,040
Speaker 4: Ever, well, there's always the opportunity. I mean, even look

2742
02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:28,720
Speaker 4: at last night, knowing he probably's gone from this squad.

2743
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:31,200
Speaker 4: May look at what Will Greer did against the Raiders

2744
02:08:32,160 --> 02:08:35,480
Speaker 4: twenty nine thirty five three h five, two touchdowns, no pick,

2745
02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:39,200
Speaker 4: a couple of runs, fifty three yards and two scores

2746
02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:39,839
Speaker 4: on the ground.

2747
02:08:40,480 --> 02:08:40,880
Speaker 3: All right.

2748
02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:44,120
Speaker 4: Again, might not be for this squad, but maybe you

2749
02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:46,680
Speaker 4: can you can parlay that and at least get some

2750
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:50,600
Speaker 4: return on that original investment. A guy that wasn't your

2751
02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:53,800
Speaker 4: investment to begin with, another guy brought in.

2752
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:57,800
Speaker 8: Yes, that's that's a great way to think about it.

2753
02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:02,400
Speaker 8: You're trying to or lay these things into additional resources.

2754
02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 8: Either he becomes a good backup player for you so

2755
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:10,000
Speaker 8: that provides you with insurance or on your franchise quarterback,

2756
02:09:10,520 --> 02:09:13,280
Speaker 8: or he becomes something that you can trade off to

2757
02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:16,320
Speaker 8: bring back another asset for something that you need on

2758
02:09:16,360 --> 02:09:16,880
Speaker 8: your roster.

2759
02:09:17,240 --> 02:09:19,920
Speaker 4: And it always becomes packages later on. Maybe it's just

2760
02:09:19,960 --> 02:09:23,320
Speaker 4: another pick that gets bundled up, you know. Like we

2761
02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:27,560
Speaker 4: talk about bundling and saving with progressive insurance all the time,

2762
02:09:27,720 --> 02:09:30,960
Speaker 4: same thing here in bundling up your draft picks. If

2763
02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:33,440
Speaker 4: you have more at your disposal, maybe you can go

2764
02:09:33,480 --> 02:09:36,720
Speaker 4: and get one of those assets that helped your starting

2765
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:39,800
Speaker 4: twenty two. He's Bucky Brooks on my garment here Fox

2766
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:44,600
Speaker 4: Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Find Bucky on Twitter at

2767
02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:48,520
Speaker 4: Bucky Brooks. Find me over at Swollen Dome. The Tampa

2768
02:09:48,520 --> 02:09:52,360
Speaker 4: Bay Buccaneers sometimes you just can't have nice things. The

2769
02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:56,040
Speaker 4: best of days, the worst of days, Buccaneers and talking

2770
02:09:56,040 --> 02:09:58,640
Speaker 4: about the NFC South coming up next here on Fox

2771
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Speaker 4: Sports Radio. Back in It's Fox Football Sunday. Here Fox

2772
02:10:02,440 --> 02:10:06,640
Speaker 4: Sports Radio, Mike Harmon alongside Bucky Brooks having fun with you.

2773
02:10:06,720 --> 02:10:09,720
Speaker 4: We're getting warmed up because the season starts in less

2774
02:10:09,720 --> 02:10:14,080
Speaker 4: than two weeks. Glorious Thursday Night, a fair coming down

2775
02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:17,320
Speaker 4: the pipeline and then we'll really be in the grind.

2776
02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:20,800
Speaker 4: A little bit of Week zero football to wet your

2777
02:10:20,840 --> 02:10:22,560
Speaker 4: appetite college football.

2778
02:10:22,640 --> 02:10:23,520
Speaker 3: You saw Hartman.

2779
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:27,160
Speaker 4: I have no doubt for their three hours today, it's

2780
02:10:27,200 --> 02:10:30,400
Speaker 4: all gonna be about Hartman. When Steve Hartman takes the airways,

2781
02:10:31,520 --> 02:10:33,720
Speaker 4: you what would you think about that? He's gonna claim

2782
02:10:33,800 --> 02:10:34,600
Speaker 4: him like he's kid?

2783
02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:38,320
Speaker 1: What does it have to be all about Hartman? What

2784
02:10:38,560 --> 02:10:40,160
Speaker 1: would Hartman be so excited?

2785
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:43,000
Speaker 4: You don't think Steve Hartman is gonna claim Sam Hartman

2786
02:10:43,040 --> 02:10:43,880
Speaker 4: as much as he can.

2787
02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:45,080
Speaker 3: That would be my son.

2788
02:10:48,120 --> 02:10:52,520
Speaker 4: Twenty four years old. Big effort for Notre Dame over

2789
02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:55,600
Speaker 4: in Ireland against Navy yesterday.

2790
02:10:56,040 --> 02:10:57,080
Speaker 3: I'm just banking on it.

2791
02:10:58,040 --> 02:11:01,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, okay, now that you've explained it that

2792
02:11:01,440 --> 02:11:02,920
Speaker 8: way I can. I can see a little bit of

2793
02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:03,880
Speaker 8: your point.

2794
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:06,280
Speaker 4: That, you know, because the Heisman vote is so near

2795
02:11:06,280 --> 02:11:09,800
Speaker 4: and dear to Steve's heart, no doubt he'll be number

2796
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:12,680
Speaker 4: one with a bullet each and every week. So yeah,

2797
02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:15,920
Speaker 4: you've got Sam Hartman and Caleb Williams put on shows

2798
02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:19,600
Speaker 4: for you yesterday to wet your appetite for the big

2799
02:11:19,640 --> 02:11:22,320
Speaker 4: season to come. A lot of marquee matchups coming up

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Speaker 4: this next week. But stories in the in the National

2801
02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:28,760
Speaker 4: Football League and one that we we monitor a bit,

2802
02:11:28,840 --> 02:11:31,840
Speaker 4: and it's the the Baker Mayfield saga coming out of

2803
02:11:31,840 --> 02:11:35,120
Speaker 4: talking about Trey Lance. Solely appropriate. We talk about top

2804
02:11:35,160 --> 02:11:39,560
Speaker 4: picks and and moving on to newer, perhaps greener pastures,

2805
02:11:40,160 --> 02:11:44,680
Speaker 4: but they get the kicking the teeth yesterday as Ryan

2806
02:11:44,840 --> 02:11:50,040
Speaker 4: Jensen had to go on season ending injured reserve complications

2807
02:11:50,040 --> 02:11:52,919
Speaker 4: of the knee injury he missed all last season, battled

2808
02:11:52,920 --> 02:11:56,680
Speaker 4: back so he could play in the postseason, all of that,

2809
02:11:57,320 --> 02:11:59,680
Speaker 4: and now he's gone again. I remember what this did

2810
02:11:59,720 --> 02:12:03,760
Speaker 4: to a Dallas team. Remember Travis Frederick when he got

2811
02:12:03,800 --> 02:12:06,760
Speaker 4: ill and had had to walk away and the disruption,

2812
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:10,920
Speaker 4: I mean the center, you know. For as much as

2813
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:14,120
Speaker 4: we love our quote skill position, guys, Bucky. I mean

2814
02:12:14,200 --> 02:12:18,320
Speaker 4: the center being the nerve, you know, center for an

2815
02:12:18,320 --> 02:12:20,760
Speaker 4: offense and getting things started. I mean it was a

2816
02:12:20,840 --> 02:12:22,640
Speaker 4: huge loss a week before a season.

2817
02:12:24,280 --> 02:12:29,320
Speaker 8: Huge loss because you know, it's funny centers to one

2818
02:12:29,360 --> 02:12:31,920
Speaker 8: position that no one pays attention to until you see

2819
02:12:31,920 --> 02:12:34,040
Speaker 8: a bad snap where you see some Aaron plack where

2820
02:12:34,040 --> 02:12:37,720
Speaker 8: you understand why you can't get your pass protection right

2821
02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:40,160
Speaker 8: because you're having a tough time identifying the Mike linebacker,

2822
02:12:40,240 --> 02:12:43,240
Speaker 8: so you can't set the protection to set up where

2823
02:12:43,280 --> 02:12:44,800
Speaker 8: the quarterback needs to set up so you can throw

2824
02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:47,840
Speaker 8: from a clean pocket. It's a huge loss, and I

2825
02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:50,040
Speaker 8: are a significant It's not oh he's just gonna go

2826
02:12:50,080 --> 02:12:50,840
Speaker 8: away for a couple of weeks.

2827
02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:52,640
Speaker 1: He's HiTV me back Like you know.

2828
02:12:52,760 --> 02:12:56,480
Speaker 8: It puts them behind the eight ball, and Baker Mayfield

2829
02:12:56,560 --> 02:12:58,520
Speaker 8: needed someone to take some of that off his plate

2830
02:12:58,960 --> 02:12:59,680
Speaker 8: so he could play well.

2831
02:12:59,680 --> 02:13:02,120
Speaker 3: It's a huge deal for them.

2832
02:13:02,160 --> 02:13:05,160
Speaker 4: We look at the division as a whole, uh, and

2833
02:13:05,200 --> 02:13:08,360
Speaker 4: it's kind of categorically dismissed because youve got Desmond Ridder

2834
02:13:09,040 --> 02:13:12,520
Speaker 4: leading the Falcon second year guy, and and look when

2835
02:13:12,560 --> 02:13:15,240
Speaker 4: we were doing the odds on the Trey Lance trade

2836
02:13:15,280 --> 02:13:18,800
Speaker 4: before he finally goes to Dallas. You know, the Falcons

2837
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:21,320
Speaker 4: were one of those teams mentioned of, well maybe they're

2838
02:13:21,360 --> 02:13:24,000
Speaker 4: not completely sold on Ritter, so he could be there.

2839
02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:28,000
Speaker 4: We've got Carolina, uh and you got Bryce Young and

2840
02:13:28,040 --> 02:13:30,360
Speaker 4: what he may or may not be and what that

2841
02:13:30,440 --> 02:13:34,160
Speaker 4: team we know they can play defense, but then it

2842
02:13:34,200 --> 02:13:37,240
Speaker 4: becomes a all right, what's that offense gonna look like?

2843
02:13:37,520 --> 02:13:40,440
Speaker 4: And then you've got to jacked up Derek Carr. I

2844
02:13:40,480 --> 02:13:42,360
Speaker 4: don't know if you saw pictures of him. He's played

2845
02:13:42,360 --> 02:13:44,600
Speaker 4: a little bit in the preseason. He looked like he

2846
02:13:44,680 --> 02:13:47,560
Speaker 4: was hanging and banging in the gym with Hulkamania in

2847
02:13:47,600 --> 02:13:50,600
Speaker 4: the mid eighties, coming out with the gun show fly and.

2848
02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:53,640
Speaker 1: He little little hook little hooksters.

2849
02:13:53,880 --> 02:13:56,000
Speaker 3: Brother gets you, gets.

2850
02:13:57,640 --> 02:14:00,800
Speaker 4: Train, say your prayers in each Your item is brother.

2851
02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:05,400
Speaker 4: So you've got him, but Camara's on suspension. Okay, you've

2852
02:14:05,440 --> 02:14:10,920
Speaker 4: got Jamal Williams, but Alave maybe Michael Thomas finally is

2853
02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:13,920
Speaker 4: healthy and can return to for him maybe, And then

2854
02:14:13,960 --> 02:14:17,000
Speaker 4: you've got Johnson at tight end. But again, another team

2855
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:18,960
Speaker 4: with a great defense. I think that's gonna be the

2856
02:14:18,960 --> 02:14:22,440
Speaker 4: hallmark of this division, Like who's gonna score enough points

2857
02:14:22,480 --> 02:14:23,280
Speaker 4: to win games?

2858
02:14:24,520 --> 02:14:25,960
Speaker 8: It's gonna be hard. It's gonna be hard for a

2859
02:14:26,000 --> 02:14:29,839
Speaker 8: lot of these teams to match up and be disciplined

2860
02:14:29,960 --> 02:14:33,800
Speaker 8: enough to take care of business. But you're right these teams,

2861
02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:36,400
Speaker 8: the Saints are a goodent because they have veteran leadership,

2862
02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:40,080
Speaker 8: veteran presidence on defense. So you would like to think

2863
02:14:40,120 --> 02:14:42,960
Speaker 8: that they're gonna play better because the old heads are

2864
02:14:43,000 --> 02:14:47,080
Speaker 8: all on that start. But quiet, sneaky. They're sneaky old team, right,

2865
02:14:47,160 --> 02:14:50,880
Speaker 8: you know, Derek Carr vets all around. They have a

2866
02:14:50,880 --> 02:14:55,000
Speaker 8: lot of old guys. It's time to win. My question

2867
02:14:55,760 --> 02:14:59,240
Speaker 8: would be, is Dennis Allen capable of fixing any problems

2868
02:14:59,240 --> 02:15:00,360
Speaker 8: that arise doing this season?

2869
02:15:01,880 --> 02:15:04,240
Speaker 4: Well from the offensive side of things, Like, I think

2870
02:15:04,320 --> 02:15:07,760
Speaker 4: that's the biggest curiosity, right because I mean, we know

2871
02:15:07,800 --> 02:15:13,640
Speaker 4: what a lave is, but Camara on suspension, offensive line

2872
02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:17,920
Speaker 4: help wise, they've had some issues staying on the field.

2873
02:15:18,240 --> 02:15:19,960
Speaker 4: Of course, we can do that with a lot of teams.

2874
02:15:20,440 --> 02:15:22,440
Speaker 4: Smith makes fun of me all the time, He's like,

2875
02:15:22,520 --> 02:15:25,560
Speaker 4: why do you always bring up offensive line play? Like, yeah,

2876
02:15:25,560 --> 02:15:28,200
Speaker 4: I know it's not sexy, but in the end, isn't

2877
02:15:28,240 --> 02:15:29,360
Speaker 4: that where football.

2878
02:15:29,000 --> 02:15:31,480
Speaker 3: Is actually won? If you talk to football people. As

2879
02:15:31,560 --> 02:15:33,760
Speaker 3: much as we love our skill position. Guys.

2880
02:15:33,920 --> 02:15:36,120
Speaker 4: If I don't have five guys to keep my quarterback

2881
02:15:36,200 --> 02:15:39,320
Speaker 4: up right, it really doesn't matter now does it. And

2882
02:15:39,400 --> 02:15:41,640
Speaker 4: on the other side of the ball, my defensive front

2883
02:15:42,600 --> 02:15:45,920
Speaker 4: isn't getting after it right. I got Cam Jordan on

2884
02:15:45,960 --> 02:15:47,760
Speaker 4: that side that I know what he's bringing to the

2885
02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:52,040
Speaker 4: table each and every week. But from an offensive perspective, yeah,

2886
02:15:52,160 --> 02:15:55,879
Speaker 4: with Dennis Allen, whenever we have defensive minded head coaches,

2887
02:15:56,120 --> 02:15:59,440
Speaker 4: it's always wondering of flipping the you know, the switch

2888
02:15:59,480 --> 02:16:02,720
Speaker 4: and you can find and eke out that extra win.

2889
02:16:04,360 --> 02:16:07,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll see if you can. You can find a

2890
02:16:07,800 --> 02:16:10,360
Speaker 8: way to get that done. And we'll see if Dennis

2891
02:16:10,360 --> 02:16:13,480
Speaker 8: Allen has a way of holding those guys accountable to

2892
02:16:13,520 --> 02:16:16,520
Speaker 8: the point where they do kind of take care of

2893
02:16:16,560 --> 02:16:21,920
Speaker 8: their business in that regard. In the division that they're in,

2894
02:16:23,320 --> 02:16:25,920
Speaker 8: there is a path. There's a path to the postseason.

2895
02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:27,960
Speaker 8: In the NFC, there's a path for them to make it.

2896
02:16:27,920 --> 02:16:29,080
Speaker 1: All the way to the Super Bowl.

2897
02:16:29,400 --> 02:16:32,520
Speaker 8: It's about them hitting the ground runner and Derek Carr

2898
02:16:33,320 --> 02:16:36,480
Speaker 8: playing up to the standard. He's kind of been able

2899
02:16:36,520 --> 02:16:40,240
Speaker 8: to float and coast and all these other things. When

2900
02:16:40,240 --> 02:16:43,840
Speaker 8: he doesn't play well, we tend to give him a pass. Now,

2901
02:16:43,879 --> 02:16:46,080
Speaker 8: the expectation he's gonna play well. He can't complain about

2902
02:16:46,120 --> 02:16:48,840
Speaker 8: what he doesn't have. They have everything. He has to

2903
02:16:48,840 --> 02:16:49,320
Speaker 8: play well.

2904
02:16:49,560 --> 02:16:51,560
Speaker 3: Awful hard to complain about what you didn't have.

2905
02:16:51,600 --> 02:16:54,400
Speaker 4: I mean, look, Darren Waller got hurt, but you had

2906
02:16:54,440 --> 02:16:57,160
Speaker 4: DeVante Adams. Last year, you had the leading rusher in

2907
02:16:57,200 --> 02:17:02,520
Speaker 4: the league in Josh Jacobs. He had that Defensively, Obviously

2908
02:17:02,560 --> 02:17:05,920
Speaker 4: they've they've had issues, but from an offensive perspective, I

2909
02:17:06,080 --> 02:17:09,600
Speaker 4: tried to really determine what he is like you look

2910
02:17:09,640 --> 02:17:13,320
Speaker 4: at his career. Best goes back to twenty fifteen with

2911
02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:17,000
Speaker 4: thirty two touchdowns. Otherwise, he's a mid twenties guy, like

2912
02:17:17,040 --> 02:17:18,240
Speaker 4: he's not a world beater.

2913
02:17:18,200 --> 02:17:21,560
Speaker 8: The mid level quarterback. He's a top fifteen quarterback at best.

2914
02:17:21,640 --> 02:17:24,080
Speaker 8: He's not a top five quarterback. We like him because

2915
02:17:24,120 --> 02:17:26,960
Speaker 8: it's a nice story. Maybe we give him favor because

2916
02:17:26,959 --> 02:17:29,400
Speaker 8: his brother's in the media and we see him and

2917
02:17:29,400 --> 02:17:31,480
Speaker 8: they seem like a nice family. The connection is great

2918
02:17:31,480 --> 02:17:32,600
Speaker 8: to solid when we see.

2919
02:17:32,440 --> 02:17:33,440
Speaker 1: Them on TV.

2920
02:17:34,800 --> 02:17:39,080
Speaker 8: He hasn't put up numbers to kind of warrant maybe

2921
02:17:39,120 --> 02:17:42,920
Speaker 8: the past that we've given him for his failures or

2922
02:17:42,920 --> 02:17:45,280
Speaker 8: the team shortcomings. Looking at the team's record, and they'll

2923
02:17:45,320 --> 02:17:48,440
Speaker 8: say team wins is not a quarterback set, Well, why

2924
02:17:48,480 --> 02:17:50,959
Speaker 8: do we judge or deem tom Brady has to go

2925
02:17:51,240 --> 02:17:52,320
Speaker 8: because he has seven.

2926
02:17:52,160 --> 02:17:54,480
Speaker 1: Rings right at some point exactly.

2927
02:17:54,240 --> 02:17:56,000
Speaker 8: Be a part of it, has to be a part

2928
02:17:56,040 --> 02:17:59,600
Speaker 8: of the equation, and you have to win. And the

2929
02:17:59,680 --> 02:18:03,080
Speaker 8: more that you make, the more did I expect you

2930
02:18:03,120 --> 02:18:06,560
Speaker 8: to overcome? That's that's that's why they're paying you, because

2931
02:18:06,560 --> 02:18:08,800
Speaker 8: they expect you to overcome some of these things. Hey,

2932
02:18:08,840 --> 02:18:10,520
Speaker 8: we're gonna pay you fifty five million dollars. Hey, you

2933
02:18:10,520 --> 02:18:12,920
Speaker 8: know what, I really need a wide receiver. Okay, well

2934
02:18:12,959 --> 02:18:14,160
Speaker 8: you take that out your check.

2935
02:18:16,120 --> 02:18:18,840
Speaker 1: So create, so create, so create one.

2936
02:18:18,920 --> 02:18:22,160
Speaker 8: That's what we want to see, and that's the expectation.

2937
02:18:22,280 --> 02:18:24,880
Speaker 8: I forgot to mention this earlier because you were talking

2938
02:18:25,040 --> 02:18:29,120
Speaker 8: to Andy about Joe Burrow and the injuries and those things.

2939
02:18:29,320 --> 02:18:32,360
Speaker 8: And I'm believing you, know, having known you for a while,

2940
02:18:32,640 --> 02:18:34,440
Speaker 8: Mike Carman, I believe that you probably are one of

2941
02:18:34,440 --> 02:18:36,879
Speaker 8: those that had some online baking. Maybe you attach it

2942
02:18:36,879 --> 02:18:38,360
Speaker 8: to your phone so you can kind of keep up

2943
02:18:38,400 --> 02:18:41,000
Speaker 8: with the latest transactions of everyone is away.

2944
02:18:41,800 --> 02:18:43,960
Speaker 1: I could pretty much guarantee.

2945
02:18:43,360 --> 02:18:46,400
Speaker 8: That if Joe Burrow was sitting in the locker room,

2946
02:18:46,400 --> 02:18:48,320
Speaker 8: and there was a transaction that kind of popped through

2947
02:18:48,360 --> 02:18:52,040
Speaker 8: on his phone that one hundred and seventy million guaranteed

2948
02:18:52,080 --> 02:18:54,960
Speaker 8: it kind of cleared at Will's Fargo or whatever bank

2949
02:18:54,959 --> 02:18:56,200
Speaker 8: of choice and Cincinnati.

2950
02:18:56,680 --> 02:18:59,320
Speaker 1: I am sure that that calf injury that's troubling.

2951
02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:01,760
Speaker 8: Him not be a problem in week one. I'm not

2952
02:19:01,800 --> 02:19:04,600
Speaker 8: saying that that has anything to do with him holding in.

2953
02:19:04,680 --> 02:19:06,520
Speaker 8: I'm just saying I think you probably feel.

2954
02:19:06,320 --> 02:19:08,440
Speaker 1: Better if your pockets are a little heavy, you know

2955
02:19:08,480 --> 02:19:11,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. No, it's true Mike Brown and him.

2956
02:19:11,520 --> 02:19:13,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, as soon as Mike Brown and those guys are

2957
02:19:13,240 --> 02:19:16,320
Speaker 8: ready to write to check, I am sure QB number

2958
02:19:16,440 --> 02:19:18,800
Speaker 8: nine Mike find his way to be back on the

2959
02:19:18,800 --> 02:19:20,040
Speaker 8: field of plane at a high level.

2960
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:23,880
Speaker 4: That is always the curiosity, right. We talk about Jonathan

2961
02:19:23,920 --> 02:19:26,960
Speaker 4: Taylor in the same vein how much is the ankle?

2962
02:19:27,400 --> 02:19:28,240
Speaker 3: How much was?

2963
02:19:28,440 --> 02:19:30,600
Speaker 4: I'm not getting on there until you either re up

2964
02:19:30,600 --> 02:19:33,360
Speaker 4: my deal or send me somewhere else. For Joe Burrow,

2965
02:19:33,360 --> 02:19:34,840
Speaker 4: He's watched everybody else get paid.

2966
02:19:35,840 --> 02:19:36,320
Speaker 3: Who had it?

2967
02:19:36,440 --> 02:19:36,560
Speaker 4: Us?

2968
02:19:36,640 --> 02:19:36,800
Speaker 10: Guy?

2969
02:19:37,000 --> 02:19:39,520
Speaker 4: Look, we all love Justin Herbert. He's a great story.

2970
02:19:39,800 --> 02:19:41,760
Speaker 4: All right, We're going to talk to our guy. I

2971
02:19:41,879 --> 02:19:45,480
Speaker 4: Loo here part of the Chargers broadcast and gets to

2972
02:19:45,480 --> 02:19:48,960
Speaker 4: watch him up close and personal with great regularity.

2973
02:19:49,360 --> 02:19:51,800
Speaker 3: He got paid. He hasn't done a fraction of what

2974
02:19:51,920 --> 02:19:54,280
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow has done in the NFL at this point.

2975
02:19:54,560 --> 02:19:57,480
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson got his bag, but he's getting their bag.

2976
02:19:57,760 --> 02:20:00,760
Speaker 3: And when we come to Cincinnati. It is something we've

2977
02:20:00,760 --> 02:20:03,600
Speaker 3: talked about for a very long time of the reticence

2978
02:20:03,600 --> 02:20:06,400
Speaker 3: to open the wats when it comes to these kind

2979
02:20:06,440 --> 02:20:10,680
Speaker 3: of these kind of contracts and making sure you get

2980
02:20:10,680 --> 02:20:11,320
Speaker 3: that secured.

2981
02:20:13,000 --> 02:20:16,840
Speaker 8: Yes, that's everything you want to leverage.

2982
02:20:16,840 --> 02:20:18,359
Speaker 1: You want to make sure the bag is secured.

2983
02:20:18,920 --> 02:20:21,160
Speaker 8: We can talk about a lot of different things, and

2984
02:20:21,720 --> 02:20:25,160
Speaker 8: I love the old school nature of the game where

2985
02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:28,120
Speaker 8: we all feel, hey, you know they love the game

2986
02:20:28,320 --> 02:20:31,440
Speaker 8: or whatever. They do, love the game, but never underestimate

2987
02:20:32,320 --> 02:20:34,760
Speaker 8: the dough and how much that plays a part in

2988
02:20:35,200 --> 02:20:36,720
Speaker 8: some of the decisions that are made.

2989
02:20:37,000 --> 02:20:39,039
Speaker 4: Hey, before you're gonna get back out on a field,

2990
02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:42,040
Speaker 4: everybody wants to make sure, Hey, the deposits set to

2991
02:20:42,120 --> 02:20:45,480
Speaker 4: set to go right, and then we'll strap that chin

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Speaker 4: a lot of weight on my meaty calves if only

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Speaker 4: I had the same leverage. Bucky Brooks at Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 4: where you find them on Twitter, Find me over at

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Speaker 4: Swollen Dome. We'll get back into the Raiders side of things.

3001
02:21:11,920 --> 02:21:15,440
Speaker 4: Cars former team while they got their guy back into

3002
02:21:15,520 --> 02:21:18,879
Speaker 4: camp and a little bit of creativity financially was what

3003
02:21:18,920 --> 02:21:20,320
Speaker 4: did it. But now let's go over to our guy,

3004
02:21:20,440 --> 02:21:23,800
Speaker 4: Isaac Lowoodgron get an update on what's trending A and

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Speaker 4: R sporting universe.

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Speaker 9: Hi, I love hello fellas. Let's begin with Aaron Rodgers

3007
02:21:27,840 --> 02:21:30,240
Speaker 9: making his Jet's debut in their thirty two to twenty

3008
02:21:30,280 --> 02:21:32,680
Speaker 9: four victory over the Giants last night. He completed five

3009
02:21:32,720 --> 02:21:35,199
Speaker 9: of eight for forty seven yards, including a fourteen yard

3010
02:21:35,200 --> 02:21:38,520
Speaker 9: touchdown pass to Garrett Wilson. Cowboys over the Raiders thirty

3011
02:21:38,520 --> 02:21:41,960
Speaker 9: one to sixteen. Will Greer going the distances quarterback for Dallas,

3012
02:21:41,959 --> 02:21:44,240
Speaker 9: he completed twenty nine of thirty five to three hundred

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Speaker 9: five yards two touchdown passes two touchdown runs. Bronco shut

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Speaker 9: out the Rams forty one to nothing. Saturday Night. ESPN

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Speaker 9: reported today that Miami Dolphins defensive lineman Zach Steelers agreed

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Speaker 9: to a three year extension worth up to thirty eight

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Speaker 9: million dollars with twenty million garant. In college football Saturday night,

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Speaker 9: sixth threngthd USC defeated San Jose State fifty six to

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Speaker 9: twenty eight. USC Heisman Trophy winning quarterback Caleb Williams through

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Speaker 9: for two hundred and seventy eight yards four touchdown passes.

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02:22:12,800 --> 02:22:16,640
Speaker 9: Freshman Zachariah Branch had a ninety six yard kickoff return

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Speaker 9: for a touchdown and a twenty five yard touchdown reception. Now,

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Speaker 9: Mike and Bucky, this game between USC and San Jose

3024
02:22:24,920 --> 02:22:28,240
Speaker 9: State was a one touchdown game four minutes out of

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Speaker 9: the third quarter. With that in mind, I'm going to

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Speaker 9: read you some authentic message board posts good during that

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Speaker 9: time by USC fans.

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Speaker 4: The anybody notable with the giant check mark that jumped

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02:22:43,680 --> 02:22:45,480
Speaker 4: onto the bandwagon, that might have been mad.

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Speaker 7: That's the thing.

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Speaker 9: A lot of them do have giant check marks that

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Speaker 9: they paid for, but the user names are just so confusing.

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Speaker 9: It would be hard to pinpoint them, and perhaps that's

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Speaker 9: a good thing. All right, these are all real. This

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02:22:57,000 --> 02:23:02,959
Speaker 9: was during the game last night. Y NWA six X

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Speaker 9: posts and I quote Riley stock tumbling. How do you

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Speaker 9: retain this moron? Ls say in five quote sick to

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Speaker 9: my stomach for real, Room one posting quote pathetic. Anyone

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02:23:25,280 --> 02:23:29,280
Speaker 9: who believes in this nonsense is delusional. And finally from

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Speaker 9: two x Sclum quote, pump the brakes on the CFP

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02:23:35,000 --> 02:23:40,560
Speaker 9: talk got to temper expectations for now unquote, Ladies and

3042
02:23:40,560 --> 02:23:43,520
Speaker 9: gentlemen of the listening audience, your fellow fans. Finally, in

3043
02:23:43,560 --> 02:23:46,120
Speaker 9: Major League Baseball, Saturday night, the Cincinnati Reds one at

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02:23:46,120 --> 02:23:48,480
Speaker 9: Arizona in eleven innings, eight to seven to break the

3045
02:23:48,480 --> 02:23:50,920
Speaker 9: Diamondbacks six game winning streak. The Red score the game

3046
02:23:50,920 --> 02:23:53,600
Speaker 9: winner on a bock in the top half of the

3047
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Speaker 9: of the eleventh inning. No word yet on what y

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Speaker 9: NWA six X thought of that.

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Speaker 4: Back to you, Thanks so much at Isaac Longron, find

3050
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Speaker 4: all he's doing there, Chargers and the Angel City broadcast

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Speaker 4: that he does and got a game later on to

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Speaker 4: com slash match. I will say this that defense working

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Speaker 4: progress there, Bucky, one thing you need as much as

3060
02:24:33,080 --> 02:24:36,200
Speaker 4: I like watching the Spartans run a buck and keep

3061
02:24:36,200 --> 02:24:39,520
Speaker 4: it interesting for a while, knowing that Ilo would have

3062
02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:42,160
Speaker 4: some great tweets for us. Let's go back to the

3063
02:24:42,720 --> 02:24:46,520
Speaker 4: Raiders of Nevada here for a second. Josh Jacobs. They

3064
02:24:46,520 --> 02:24:50,040
Speaker 4: get creative and he actually gets more of a bag

3065
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Speaker 4: than he would have with his straight franchise tag dollars

3066
02:24:55,200 --> 02:24:57,760
Speaker 4: and cents, right, almost two million dollars more, so good

3067
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Speaker 4: for him. Not quite the same as Saquon Barkley, who

3068
02:25:00,640 --> 02:25:02,920
Speaker 4: just got an advance, right, he got a cash advance

3069
02:25:02,959 --> 02:25:06,440
Speaker 4: and some incentives. Austin Eckler, who was unhappy he got

3070
02:25:06,480 --> 02:25:09,520
Speaker 4: some more incentives, not that he was at the you know,

3071
02:25:09,640 --> 02:25:13,160
Speaker 4: the franchise tag number or whatever. But still a little

3072
02:25:13,160 --> 02:25:17,080
Speaker 4: bit of creativity by the Chargers. But for the Raiders

3073
02:25:17,800 --> 02:25:20,880
Speaker 4: it's it's great good for him, he's now set up

3074
02:25:20,920 --> 02:25:23,840
Speaker 4: if they franchise him again, now you're looking at getting

3075
02:25:23,840 --> 02:25:27,439
Speaker 4: a total of probably twenty six million over two years, which.

3076
02:25:27,240 --> 02:25:30,040
Speaker 3: Is great expectations.

3077
02:25:30,080 --> 02:25:34,160
Speaker 4: Though for this squad, Jimmy g led offense, DeVante Adams,

3078
02:25:34,240 --> 02:25:39,080
Speaker 4: Jacoby Myers, Hunter, renfro Back in healthy to move those chains,

3079
02:25:39,120 --> 02:25:41,640
Speaker 4: they bring in Hooper and as we know, Hooper drives

3080
02:25:41,680 --> 02:25:46,279
Speaker 4: the boat at tight end. But all said with the defense,

3081
02:25:47,000 --> 02:25:50,160
Speaker 4: can the defense keep them in games in a crowded

3082
02:25:50,240 --> 02:25:53,640
Speaker 4: AFC West where we assume Denver's going to be better.

3083
02:25:55,080 --> 02:25:55,840
Speaker 1: Its gonna be tough.

3084
02:25:56,959 --> 02:26:00,040
Speaker 8: Your best been in the AFC is to have a

3085
02:26:00,120 --> 02:26:03,280
Speaker 8: pass rusher too, has some cover guys, and hope that

3086
02:26:03,320 --> 02:26:06,959
Speaker 8: your offense is operating as such a high efficiency clip

3087
02:26:07,040 --> 02:26:10,240
Speaker 8: that people are forced to chase points that takes away

3088
02:26:10,240 --> 02:26:11,760
Speaker 8: the run a game and that allows you to build

3089
02:26:11,800 --> 02:26:15,800
Speaker 8: a plan with just stopping the pass passing game in mind.

3090
02:26:16,120 --> 02:26:18,000
Speaker 8: The other thing you have to look at is does

3091
02:26:18,040 --> 02:26:21,320
Speaker 8: your personnel fit how you want to play? Meaning, if

3092
02:26:21,320 --> 02:26:23,720
Speaker 8: I want to be a bumper run team, let's make

3093
02:26:23,760 --> 02:26:26,080
Speaker 8: sure we've got enough corners, enough safeties that can cover

3094
02:26:26,200 --> 02:26:26,720
Speaker 8: in space.

3095
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Speaker 1: If not, we're spending a lot of.

3096
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Speaker 8: Time practicing things that will never utilize because it doesn't

3097
02:26:32,000 --> 02:26:36,200
Speaker 8: fit our players. So evaluating what we have, knowing what

3098
02:26:36,240 --> 02:26:37,760
Speaker 8: we have and how to attack. And when you're a

3099
02:26:37,760 --> 02:26:39,720
Speaker 8: team at the Raiders that likes to use what we

3100
02:26:39,760 --> 02:26:43,480
Speaker 8: call snowflake game plans, where every game plan is something

3101
02:26:43,520 --> 02:26:47,920
Speaker 8: different and it's not replicated the following week, hike you guys.

3102
02:26:47,920 --> 02:26:49,560
Speaker 8: So you got to make sure you have enough athleticism

3103
02:26:49,600 --> 02:26:50,520
Speaker 8: to be able to pull something at all.

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Speaker 4: Oh and some contracts that still need to be figured out.

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Speaker 4: And no, not just Joe Burrow's calf. We'll do it

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Speaker 4: next here on Fox Sports Radio.