1 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Podcast starts. Now what the hell is going on? And 2 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: you are listening to Stradia Lab. That was a groundbreaking introduction. 3 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: Let's start there, George, how are you? 4 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: I am flying so high, I am skipping along the clouds. 5 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: Today is the first day of the rest of my life. 6 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 2: And I said this to you before when you were 7 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: recording previously. But I am having one of those twelve 8 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: hour periods where I wish my entire life was as 9 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: well structured as this twelve hour period, which only then 10 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 2: and I said this before, which only then makes you 11 00:00:54,720 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: almost counterintuitively upset that that can't be an actual goal 12 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: that you can have, because the whole point of that 13 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: twelve hour period being so special is that it's different 14 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 2: from the rest of your life. And so I am, 15 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: I would say, navigating the you know I'll say it 16 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: come down from that realization. And you're catching me like 17 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: mid I'm in the air falling this as I am recovering, George. 18 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: But it hasn't even ended yet, and you're still in 19 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: the You're already in the come down. 20 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: You know what, And it hasn't It hasn't ended because 21 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: we actually we have like such a great guest today, 22 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: I'm feeling. I'm feeling energized. I'm the protein bar that 23 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: I had mere hours ago. Is uh is coursing through 24 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: my veins beautiful. And I would say my abandonment issues 25 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: with you are at a manageable level. 26 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: That's good. I you know how I've been saying that 27 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: I like lad now as of last weekend because of 28 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: the lime scores, because you just cover the limescoter. 29 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 30 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: Well, actually today it almost all fell apart. And what happened. Well, 31 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: the thing about it is, I've had four to five 32 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: errands that I need to run and trying to figure 33 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: out the order in which I can run them most efficiently. 34 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: Where I spend too much time trying to figure out 35 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: that order, where it all falls apart and I can't 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: do any of it. I'm dangerously close to doing that. 37 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: I before this recording, I was like, Okay, get food, 38 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: go to Target, go to a coffee shop, send emails. 39 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: And guess what I did of those food? Yeah? 40 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 4: And I only. 41 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: Did food because I was even like, okay, well maybe 42 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: I can try to squeeze the gym in and I 43 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: was like no, no, no, And so all I did 44 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: was get food. And then I came here can I 45 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: go ahead? 46 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: Have you seen the Have you seen the Kelly Reichert 47 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: film showing up string Michelle Williams. 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: And featuring you Dora Peterson, Yes, featuring in Dora Peterson. 49 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that yet, don't tell. 50 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: Okay, So long story short, it is about a sculptor, 51 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: and you know, you could say we are a sculptors 52 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: and sounds. It's about a sculptor and sort of the 53 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: entire premise of the film is that she's preparing for 54 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 2: this big show, but annoying logistical and personal things keep 55 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: happening that keep dragging her away from the task at hand. Okay, 56 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: And it is sort of a genius like sort of 57 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: a genius premise for a movie in that it is 58 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: so universal and I sort of have never seen it 59 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: on screen. Like it's just her trying to do her work, 60 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: and then her hot water is done, so then she 61 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: has to go talk to her landlord. And then her 62 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: sort of problem child brother is having a crisis, so 63 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: she has to go deal with that. Then she's having 64 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: drama with her mom, then she's having drama with her 65 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: day job. Then she puts the well, I don't want 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: to spoil anything, but it escalates. Let's just say, and 67 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: I'm sort of just like, wait, is that in fact 68 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: the most profound movie ever committed to film? 69 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: Potentially? I mean that is all that life is. Is 70 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: like having a goal and having that goal be interrupted 71 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: by a little inconvenient and is well and not just that. 72 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: But of course then the more let's say, privileged money 73 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: you have, whatever, the more you can actually outsource the inconveniences. 74 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like it becomes like a structural you know, 75 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: sort of structural issue. 76 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean, people with assistants. That's where things get really 77 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: complex for me, because then I'm like, whoa, so you're 78 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: completely free. That's like I'm scared of that. Actually, well, 79 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: of course. 80 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: The double edged sword, because I imagine if I had an assistant, 81 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: I would think that he was doing everything poorly, and 82 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: then of course the push and pull of that would 83 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: would maybe even make my life worse ultimately, although I 84 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: do want someone to just like book my flights. 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be amazing. I think I would feel self 86 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: conscious if I had an assistant that I didn't have 87 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: enough emails for them to send, Like they'd be like, 88 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: this is my whole job, and I'd be like yeah, 89 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: that's it's just those four today, and that's. 90 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: Actually yeah, okay, I feel like we are subcon anxiously 91 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: poogifying our. 92 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: Poto, Like this is this is such a poog. 93 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: Conversation, And I'm having like a mid conversation realization that 94 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: we are like cosplaying Poog in a way that we 95 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: don't normally. That's not what our podcast normally is. 96 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: Like it's hard not to. 97 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: It's hard not to, and I'm and I'm feeling it 98 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: happening in myself. Oh no, our guest is going to 99 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: think that we are ripping we are ripping off Poog. 100 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: I think what it is is that our guest is here, 101 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: and we're so excited because we want to pick her 102 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: brain honestly and just sort of like see where it goes. 103 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: And so we are even starting to try to almost 104 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: bait her into speaking. I know, I know. 105 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: I'm like there is a part of me where, even 106 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 2: though we told her not to speak and we will 107 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: at some point bring her in, even though we told 108 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: her not to speak, I'm actually kind of offended she hasn't. 109 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I was like, well, clearly that's interesting enough 110 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: for you to hop in. 111 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: Are you joking I've literally this has been the hardest. Okay, Okay, 112 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: I wasn't I literally thought I wasn't allowed because you 113 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 4: were saying, you know, it goes on longer than our 114 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: guests sometimes, like yeah, I have a million things say 115 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: and I considered taking please go, I consider taking out 116 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: my phone in order to take a couple of notes 117 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 4: so that you guys taking SIPs. 118 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: We're both sipping. Yeah, yeah, we're both. 119 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: First of all, I love uh you. 120 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 5: You voicing that. 121 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 4: Concern or experience or whatever of feeling like you're because 122 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 4: that is I know exactly what you mean. And I 123 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 4: feel like I would be doing that too, like like 124 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 4: it just it would be this thing like yeah, and 125 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a I just I get it. 126 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: It's like you get pulled towards this magnet of kind 127 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: of this thing that's it's it's weird. 128 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: It's a weird. 129 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: I feel this way sometimes if we have like a 130 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: straight male guest, which for us is like a little 131 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: more rare, where suddenly I'll be like, yeah, dude, oh. 132 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: My god, it's like oh god, yeah, last time, actually 133 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: we did talk like we had a straight guy on 134 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure you George said like something about 135 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: getting pussy. 136 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: No, I did, and I was repeating something he said. 137 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: I was repeating something he said. 138 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 5: Right, you weren't. But but nonetheless the words but. 139 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: Here's the question, getting pussy came out of my I 140 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: can't believe. 141 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 4: I'm scared. 142 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 5: I didn't even repeat it at you. 143 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. But I 144 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 4: feel like, Okay, it's a gift or a or a 145 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 4: skill or something right to be able to kind of 146 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: when you're listening to someone, to get into their language. There, 147 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 4: you know, into that right there. It's a very it's 148 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 4: a kind of fluid adaptive thing that that seems like 149 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: it's like a skill. 150 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: Well, an improviser's delight and improvisers of yes, I love, 151 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: I love, I can't. You can take the boy out 152 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: of UCP, but you can't take the improv out of 153 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: the boy. Well, is there anything more Unfortunately? 154 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, is there anything more beautiful than in fact 155 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: relating to someone? 156 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: Right? 157 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: Then then then actually drawing a connection where previously there 158 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: wasn't one. 159 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: Well, well, it just sorry, both things I address. It's 160 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 4: like because the mirroring, right, the mirroring of the other 161 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 4: I mean that's like your classic thing, right form and 162 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 4: the connection and it just happens. But then I sometimes 163 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: feel like, after the fact, oh I sort of disappeared. 164 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 4: I just went into mirroring. And then you see someone 165 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 4: else who does not budge in the face of of 166 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 4: social interaction and their their their essence is so just, 167 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: and that always impresses me. It's like, wait, I didn't 168 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 4: know you were allowed to just sit there in your 169 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 4: in your identity in that way, like they didn't have 170 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 4: to like reach out. 171 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: And well, even the metaphor of a mirror implies that 172 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: one person is the person and one person is the mirror, 173 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 2: and so in any I mean, yes, it can't just 174 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 2: be two mirrors talking to one another. Like even though 175 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: it seems almost like mirroring, is this way of as 176 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: I was saying before, like relating to someone in mutual 177 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: connection and actually by definition draws this incredibly hierarchical, like 178 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 2: incredibly like violent hierarchical appearance. 179 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: One exactly. Yeah, I love being the mirror. I'm realizing 180 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: I can find it with my clothes. I like, like, 181 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: now that I'm in LA, I'm sort of like, well, 182 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: I can't dress how I used to do what am 183 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: I here because it's a different it has to I 184 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: have to fit in with the people here. 185 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: No, I always feel that way about like going to 186 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: like my boyfriend's family or something right like like on 187 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: a holiday. That's just like and I sort of resistant. 188 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: I don't turn into what I think of as like 189 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 4: a girlfriend of a son, you know what I mean, Like, 190 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 4: I don't fully do it because that would make me 191 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 4: feel like, I don't know what, Like there's like a 192 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 4: certain kind of outfit or something that I would associate 193 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 4: with that, and so I sort of refused to. I 194 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 4: pretty much go like kind of a slob. 195 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 5: But it's definitely in my mind, you know, I'm not 196 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 5: I'm not going in there with. 197 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 4: Like my fashion sense. I'm not. You know. 198 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: It's well, there's two types of mirror where you're mirroring 199 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: what that you want them to see, or you know, 200 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: what you're supposed to be in your running the opposite direction. 201 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 4: Right, which remains you're still in relation to Yeah yeah, yeah, 202 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 4: it's no better than than. 203 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: Just doing what they want the thing. 204 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah. In both cases, it's all about them 205 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 4: their projection and like, yeah, I just but I'm comforted 206 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 4: that there's other things that we can't control in ourselves, 207 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: where we're arguably being like I might think I'm mirroring, like, 208 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 4: oh I completely lost myself and I'm mirroring the ship 209 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: out of whoever, like I just came in and talked 210 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 4: to Sorry dropped the first personally of the episode. Allowed 211 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: to but but but like, but there's probably things that 212 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 4: do retain, you know, like there are things that like 213 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: someone else my like no, you were completely your usual, 214 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 4: like asshole self in all these ways. 215 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: I actually love that of you thinking you're like, oh god, 216 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: like I completely disappeared and and my versality was gone. 217 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: And then someone's like you're being so weird and annoying 218 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: whole time in a way only you. 219 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: Have that you were. 220 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 4: It's like when people are like you're like, you know, 221 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: like oh, like don't take a photo of me now, 222 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 4: like whatever, you know, I look terrible, and it's like 223 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 4: you look exactly like you always. 224 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 5: Do, Like no one is going to be confused by 225 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 5: this photo. 226 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: That's hard. 227 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 4: I know, I know, and it's like but it's also 228 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, it's hard, it's hard. But I mean 229 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: unless there's someone who is you know, complete transformation in 230 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 4: terms of how they daily present themselves the average person, 231 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 4: like in terms of looking good versus not. It's like, 232 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: yeah that they can see that that's you not you know, 233 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 4: not as good, but it's not fundamentally changing, like their 234 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: believe about what you totally I don't. 235 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: Know, but yeah, what about when someone says that a 236 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: picture of you that you think is bad is a 237 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: good is like actually points it out as a good picture, 238 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: and it's like, this is such a great photo of you. 239 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you do? 240 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: Complicated? Do you go? 241 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 4: Because I feel like it's like really and then dig 242 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 4: for more like or is it or is it okay? 243 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 4: Because I see these six flaws that I maybe I 244 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 4: don't worry about as much as I thought. 245 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: I think the weirdest part is when they like the 246 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: like what you see as a flaw they see is 247 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: like a good thing. Like, yeah, I when I whenever 248 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: I shampoo my hair, it gets very poofy. It drives 249 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: me insane, and my lover is like I like that. 250 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: I like, I like when your hair is like this, 251 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: and like, but that's the bad version. 252 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: Amazing. Now, Now now do they specifically like I'm like 253 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: about to get into hair products okay because you like it. 254 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 4: You like the next day hair like settled a little bit. Yeah, 255 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 4: do you have a good product that you use post shampoo? 256 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 4: You're just getting out, You're just sort of flying, like 257 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 4: the hair is just hitting the hair. 258 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: I sometimes do like a thea salt spray, but that's yeah, yeah, 259 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: because I mostly because I don't know and the experimentation 260 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: process seems too shameful for me to really dive into. 261 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, every hair product, if you go for it, you 262 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 4: got to get right back in the shower. 263 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just leave it because I know that tomorrow 264 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: it'll be fine. Yeah, so I just waited out. 265 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 4: Yeah. 266 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think you are. 267 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: So maybe this is like my own issues and insecurities, 268 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: but I feel like I I feel like you your 269 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: hair journey and your grooming is so effortless. Like I 270 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 2: feel like you can just like get out of bed 271 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: and you have like a perfect little curl in your 272 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: hair mustache, perfect, so cute, and I feel like, I mean, 273 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: one of the reasons I started buying my hair where 274 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: I was like, I never in my entire. 275 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: Life have had a good haircut. 276 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 2: I have actually like very I have hair that people 277 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: would be envious uff. I have like hair like an 278 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: okay hairline, like whatever. I've never been satisfied leaving the 279 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 2: barber and and so I was like, right, well, I 280 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: guess I'm just gonna you know whatever, then. 281 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: You with proper stylist or just barbershop the whole time, 282 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 4: just like. 283 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 5: As an artist, you know what I mean. That's the 284 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 5: thing I sometimes leaving the supercuts. 285 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, so I got rid of all my no no. 286 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: I feel like often what will happen And you know, 287 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: now I've buzzed it for a while, but I feel 288 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: like in the early early thank you, in the early 289 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: twenty tens, it would always be like some lesbian that 290 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: like basically gave me like a real like sort of 291 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: undercut with like a thing like too alt. 292 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: Even when I would ask for. 293 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: Something a little more simple, you need to go to 294 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: like and then I also have a salon. 295 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 4: It doesn't exist, but I know maybe it doesn't should Yeah. Yeah. 296 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: Also, George, though, I think you have the thing where 297 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: like when you are a little bit off, you're like, 298 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm so off, Like I know you'll have the buzz 299 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: cut and he'll like wear a hat and take the 300 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: hat off. Oh everyone can see my hair so much. 301 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: It's you know what. 302 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: I actually was thinking about this yesterday when I did 303 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: my show, where I was like that it was the 304 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: first time I hadn't in the beginning warned everyone that 305 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: it was a work in progress, and I was like, yeah, duh, 306 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: like ever say that, Yeah, you. 307 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 4: Warn everyone like in advance who's coming or I know. 308 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: I just I'm like, like, I've been workshopping in you 309 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: hour and I've only done it four times, Okay, so 310 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: it is actively you know, and so and in the beginning, 311 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: it even like on the poster would say like sort 312 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: of work in progress or whatever, which I no longer say, 313 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: but I yeah, I would in the beginning. I think 314 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: what it is is I never am someone who brings 315 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: notes on stage, and for these shows, I haven't bringing notes. 316 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: So I feel the need to address that. 317 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 4: And be like shocked by the notes. 318 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: Yes exactly. 319 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 4: I mean you could certainly bring the notes on stage 320 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 4: and say nothing and the not imply that in a 321 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 4: way that I think is still self aware, because of 322 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: course you don't think you're fooling anyone that it's not 323 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: a work in progress. It's you know what I mean, 324 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: it's like the self awareness you want to communicate probably 325 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: I had a. 326 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: Little I had a line that I want to run 327 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: by both of you that I did last night that 328 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: I think worked, which is I had my notes and 329 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: then I said, you know, apologies for my notes. All 330 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: my jokes tonight are topical takes on today's headline, so 331 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: I haven't memorized them yet, which. 332 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: I think was enough enough self awareness. 333 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: Confused, because we have to work if we're going to 334 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 4: I was gonna say we have to I would never suggest, 335 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: so I immediately go, is is there an inherent joke 336 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: there that because it is absolutely not topical this show? 337 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: I think it's just the idea that I would do 338 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: an hour of comedy all of which is about today's. 339 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 4: Right, because that is not outrageous enough of a premise 340 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: to me to actually be like, not. 341 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Believable, totally totally. 342 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 5: I mean, I think to another comedian, like. 343 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: Yes, you're absolutely median, Yes. 344 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 4: It's comediens is one of the one of the great challenges. 345 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: One of the hardest things to do, entire thing. 346 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 4: But they're going to think back of the room to 347 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 4: hear like a. 348 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: Guy Brandom laugh, a guy Brandom laugh from the back 349 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 2: of the room. 350 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: If one when a comedian has seen like something I've 351 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: done one million times. I'm like, well, they're here, so 352 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: I can't do it. And it's like but they that's 353 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: just they just will see it a million times. 354 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 4: It will it is it is a must get over 355 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 4: and it is so hard to get over that because 356 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 4: no one's seen anything ever in the world, you know 357 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 4: what I mean, Like yes, and yes the comedians have 358 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 4: and whatever, but like that's I don't know, it's just like, yeah, 359 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 4: you got to do your work, okay, you're you're a showman, okay, 360 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 4: for the people you know, And it's like it's like 361 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 4: the work is for the people you know. 362 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: I do like the idea of like someone in a 363 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: different job, like someone that is work in construction looking 364 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: at his coworkers and being like, I know you've seen 365 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: me do the wall like this before, but I mean, 366 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: this is just the task at hands. 367 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 4: Do they need to do they exactly? 368 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: Do they need to disclaimer? 369 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 5: Seshion it up? 370 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 4: Like shows that they've still got it that like they're 371 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 4: approaching it in a new way, Like. 372 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: I also, I want to bring up the like, okay, 373 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: talking about your notes to me, I'm sort of like, well, 374 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: people get it, like people will know this is actually 375 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: a big yes. 376 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: And this is a big difference between you and I. 377 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: I think you and I actually think you are one 378 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: percent in the right about this. But when we like 379 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: when we were on tour together and even when we 380 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: do live shows and stuff, my instinct will be like, 381 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: let's mention that the show started really late because there 382 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: was an issue, and it's like people know it started late. 383 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: Like I'm like, let's make a joke about it. 384 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: And I'm always like, run forward, They're fine, They're okay. 385 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 4: Yes, now that is really you're sort of lean towards 386 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 4: parenthetical sort of. 387 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: Yes. 388 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say everything I've ever said has been 389 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: a parenthetic and the parentheses have never closed. 390 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, these layers, you just keep doing the right 391 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: hand parentheses, you know, a parent exactly. Yeah, and and yeah, 392 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 4: yeah I feel that a lot too. Yeah, it's an 393 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 4: obsession with them knowing that you know or something or 394 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 4: or it's yeah, it's and I sometimes have to yeah, 395 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 4: I have to go okay, maybe not because also you know, 396 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: to have them have impact, right, like when it's everything 397 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 4: it's hard though it's. 398 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: Hard, it's hard. 399 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: Well, it's also you start fetishizing the uh you know 400 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 2: that sort of jittery intellectual quality where you're like, oh, 401 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: the more I'm constantly commenting on what I'm doing, the 402 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: more uh I'm being so you know, culture critic, we've 403 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: got a froze. 404 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: Oh, this is one of the worst things that could 405 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: ever happen. 406 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 4: Has this ever happened here? 407 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: Not entirely? 408 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: Cameras and you know, someone says, streaming too many show 409 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 4: us next door in the loft. 410 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, we shared. We share the internet with all the 411 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: homes here. 412 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, got online. I mean, oh wait, you're back? Did 413 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 4: you hear? 414 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: Am I back? Able to hear you this whole time? Really? 415 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: I figured that's one of the more painful things. 416 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, I figured. 417 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: You know, there was some foreshadowing for me. There was 418 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: some foreshadowing for me because I first you first became 419 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 2: super blurry, and I was like, here it comes. 420 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 4: I know, I know, what about that first moment, the 421 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: first moment that you acknowledge with other people that it's 422 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 4: breaking up, Like there's a moment on like a zoom 423 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 4: or something where you go like the break up a 424 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 4: little and it's kind of like, are we all gonna one? 425 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 4: Are we all seeing that? You know? Are the breaking 426 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 4: up for all of us, which they are, and then 427 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 4: going like are we going to broach it or did 428 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 4: the break? Did we basically hear what they said and 429 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 4: now it's fine again. 430 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a weird like crazy just what we 431 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: were just talking about of like, do you address it 432 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: or do you keep going? 433 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: Actually life, it. 434 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 4: Hits art, yes, And of course I'm digging in because 435 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 4: here's a talk talk about the improv. It's like. 436 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 5: It's like the wrinkle has appeared. 437 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: We'll go with it. 438 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all a gift, like you 439 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 4: play it straight until right, don't force the weird thing 440 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 4: has happened. Weird thing happens in that, and then play 441 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 4: that right. Do you believe that? 442 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean in a strict sense kind of like I mean, yeah, 443 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: but this is different. Oh he's trying to speak. No, no, 444 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: he's not trying to speak. No no, oh interesting. 445 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 5: Is that a fake? 446 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to speak. This is I was actually 447 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: enraptured in whatever I was saying. 448 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 4: Okay, well then no, no, but we hear we hear 449 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 4: words and we're not seeing your lips move. 450 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the videos themselves are mixed. 451 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 4: Because I actually thought you were doing like a ventriloquism 452 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 4: like thing like that was. This is so odd to 453 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 4: not get the live reaction. I'm sorry everyone that my 454 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 4: face is so heavily moisturized today. I remember I believe in. 455 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: Do you shiny? You don't look shiny to. 456 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 4: Me catching I'm bouncing light, but you know, I. 457 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: Think we're both shiny. 458 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 4: It's fine, but I just want everyone to know it's 459 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 4: it's highly expensive product. I'm sure resting well. 460 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: We wouldn't expect anything anything less. 461 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I want to while we're while I am not delayed, 462 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: I want to bring up the thing that I wanted 463 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: to bring up before, which at this point we're so 464 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: deep and much more interesting topics that it barely is this. 465 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: Little thing you thought what I want to say? 466 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, this actually talk about another whatever dynamic between 467 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: me and Sam. I'm always like, I have to have 468 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 2: the thing in my back pocket in case it's complete silence, 469 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: where it can bring. 470 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: It in silence. 471 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 4: A right, that's where I'm there's no way. 472 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: You're absolutely sorry. 473 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 4: My stomachshell growl and it will probably get picked up 474 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 4: by the mic. I just need to understand's interimt and 475 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: fasting it as well. 476 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, sorry that back to it now in relaxed well, 477 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: George always wants to have like some like almost a 478 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: bullet bulleted list of things he could talk about. And 479 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm always like, but. 480 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 4: Let's just see what happened, you know, Yeah, because you 481 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 4: know what it's like. You won't fight to the death 482 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 4: in the same way if you have a if you 483 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 4: have like a life. 484 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 6: Raft, Yeah, and you'll never it will never be as 485 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 6: sink or swim because you probably see your your eyes 486 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 6: start to go towards and you realize he's. 487 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 4: Out of the moment. He's out of the moment he's 488 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: thinking about reaching for the life raft. There's a ditchable 489 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 4: quality versus sinkers. I mean it's like someone have you 490 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 4: ever seen like like sorry to bring up improv again, 491 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 4: one of the ugliest subject matters available, right, But if 492 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 4: someone like pulls out, I mean literally, if someone would 493 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 4: be completely not okay, if someone pulled out like a 494 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 4: little bit they and they. 495 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 5: Were like, I got this thing ready for us just 496 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 5: in case. 497 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: Well, it robs you the whole point. That's the whole 498 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: point that they get. 499 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 4: Their foot on the side of the swimming pool like 500 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 4: they're not gonna how can. 501 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 5: You trust them to tread water with you. 502 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: You literally can't. 503 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 7: It's anyway, sorry, but I think I was ready to 504 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 7: bring up to that life, as you guys are are saying, like, God, 505 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 7: it would be so lame and not something I'm like, 506 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 7: I'm dying. 507 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: He here's my repair thing. Okay. 508 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: So Jacqueline, you got in one of your like live show, 509 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: you know, EPISOD. 510 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: So it's you bring up the gay pilot. 511 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 4: Yes, oh, I literally bring him up. 512 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: You brought him up on the show. This was when 513 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 2: we when we did a show and that and I 514 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 2: saw that. I noticed that you said that it was 515 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: a show in Philly. Yes, so I clocked that when 516 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: Sam and I did our Philly show, someone in two 517 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 2: people in the audience were gay pilots, and one of 518 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: them was a private jet gay pilot, and I am 519 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 2: We spoke to him but didn't bring him up. We 520 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 2: just like sort of spoke to him from the stage. 521 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: But I was immediately and I still believe it was 522 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: the same guy. 523 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it was a small city. 524 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 525 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 2: Network Also I have to say, like, we don't you know, 526 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: we don't do a lot of crowd work, I would say, 527 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: so it is like the fact that he was the 528 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: one person we happened to talk at art. 529 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 4: Say you know, is there a gay man here? 530 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 5: Is there a pilot here? 531 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: It was like for you know, it wasn't because I 532 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: do think you guys were looking for a pilot. 533 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 1: We were not. 534 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 4: We can emailed us pre show like weeks before, being like, 535 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 4: I'm your because we talked about it, like we talked. 536 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 5: About gay pilots on the show. 537 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 4: He said, I'm a gay pilot and I'll be at 538 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 4: the Philly show and we said we shall interview you 539 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 4: because we talked so much about turbulence. 540 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: Oh well so we yeah, no, it was we truly 541 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 2: just like asked someone, you know, what do you do? 542 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: Or maybe yeah? 543 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 544 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: And it was him and he was it was him 545 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 2: and his friend and he's a private jet pilot and 546 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 2: his friend is a norm commercial toilet. 547 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 4: And I was like, well, I need to know about 548 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 4: him because because I've got questions that apply specifically to 549 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 4: commercial Oh really yeah. I thought there was a tone 550 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 4: in my voice when he came up and revealed he 551 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 4: was jet that I almost sounded a little too like wait, 552 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 4: but I got commercial questions, Like it's a different deal. 553 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: Well, of course, because your questions are obviously that's not 554 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: a I mean, no offense. I don't know if you're 555 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: flying private, but I would say that's less applicable to you. 556 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: Not yet. 557 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. 558 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 5: Is that the goal. 559 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 4: It's hard to say. 560 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: It is hard to say. I actually I don't even 561 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: know if it is the goal. Yeah, it feels I 562 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: think I would feel too disgusting every time. Yeah, yeah, 563 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: well like the goal is just flying business. Yeah that 564 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: is actually that's enough. That would be nice. 565 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's unreal. 566 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 567 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 4: I did it recently. It was stomach just will not stop. 568 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 4: I yeah, it was a Netflix. Okay, they sent me 569 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 4: New York word around the press, and so I got 570 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 4: put in business and baby, baby, did I enjoy it. 571 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: It was when Samini flew business once because someone paid 572 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: for it. It was we were literally like we are 573 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 2: voting Republican in the next. 574 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: How did you? How did it change you? How did 575 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: you embrace it? 576 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 5: I've done it. 577 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 4: I've done it a couple of times, a couple of 578 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 4: times upgrades back when I had I was traveling with 579 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 4: a cat. There were a couple times I just shelled 580 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 4: out because it was it was whatever. So I've been 581 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 4: up there a few different ways, you know, I've been 582 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 4: put there, I've been up graded there, and I've even 583 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 4: shelled out on occasion. Wow. Wow, just to be completely transparent. 584 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 4: Then I realized, okay, I can't you know, I cannot 585 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 4: afford it or whatever. At the time, I don't want 586 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 4: to affirm that because I plan to apart it again shortly. You, 587 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 4: of course, strategically chose okay, to not expend energy that way. 588 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 5: So have you ever done this? 589 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 4: Have you ever been referred to money as energy exchange 590 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 4: by like a healer. 591 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 5: Or you like it's free, but like we do think like. 592 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 4: An energy exchange of fifteen dollars? Like is I mean, 593 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,479 Speaker 4: well anyway, sorry, I got to drive to Okay, so 594 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 4: so anyway up there? Yell, okay, Like I accept the champagne. 595 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: Accept or is it. 596 00:28:54,000 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 4: It's sparkling wine something? I go, yes, I enjoy it, 597 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 4: I mean it just and then I start in. I 598 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 4: start looking at the menu. Oh you know what really 599 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 4: feels like next level kind of like if you're in 600 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 4: those things, is to ignore like this looks like like 601 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 4: some pro move people really comfortable there. They don't even 602 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: like open that little like gift bag thing that they 603 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 4: sometimes have, like they're like I know it's in there, 604 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 4: and I don't give a shit, and they're not like 605 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 4: versus like opening it up to me and feeling like, 606 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 4: oh yeah, everything, everything is coming home with me, Like oh, 607 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 4: these airplex are coming home with me. This little I'm 608 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 4: ask like this tiny serving of whatever. It's like they're 609 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 4: just like left there and that's sort of like, oh 610 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 4: these people like they really do. 611 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not the novelty is gone. Wait, Jacqueline, 612 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: I have a question for you. 613 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: When you paid for it yourself, how my fear would be. 614 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not going to explain yourself. My fear 615 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: would be if I paid for it myself, it's so 616 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: expensive that I would be so focused on getting my 617 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: money's worth and things being enough to warrant that price 618 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: the whole time that it would actually ruin the experience. 619 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: I would rather just be in coach. Did you find 620 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: that compared to getting it for free? 621 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 4: Because it was mostly around being able to travel comfortably 622 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 4: with my cat and her being accepted up there, like 623 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,959 Speaker 4: they were like allowed up there or something. Yeah, you know, 624 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 4: it was like all worth it. It was like, how 625 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 4: do I get like me and Mabel back to Los Angeles, 626 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 4: you know, like so it was just it, it sort 627 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 4: of had its function, and so that just felt like, well, 628 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 4: there's no other way, you know whatever. I experienced what 629 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 4: you're talking. 630 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 5: About in hotels. 631 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 4: Big time, if like time, that's where I have to 632 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 4: ask would I rather pay less and be sort of 633 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 4: delighted by you know, this place is actually kind of 634 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 4: glance around and go it's. 635 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: Clean, and you're allowed to dislike it. If it's cheap, 636 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: you're like, well this sucks. 637 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's fine, and that's good. 638 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 5: It's fine. 639 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: This about Los Angeles in general right now in my 640 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: early stages of being here, because people keep saying, like, oh, 641 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: the weather's amazing, Like you just feel so relaxed when 642 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: you're there, like it's just a different pace, Like you'll 643 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: love it. I'm sure you'll love it feeling that and 644 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm not feeling yeah, said that might be distracting. 645 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 4: No, no, No, it's me like, like, am I so much 646 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 4: just usually growl this way? And I'm trying to understand why. 647 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 4: It's not just because I haven't eaten yet, Like what 648 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 4: did I do wrong? Okay? 649 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: Anyway, anyway, I feel every single flaw I find in 650 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: Like I was eating dinner outside the other night and 651 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: there was a bug flying around, and first of all, 652 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm freezing. Then there was a single bug flying around, 653 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: and like, there aren't that many bugs here, And I 654 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: was like, right, well, why is this here? 655 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 4: Like the promise I'm paying now, is it costing you 656 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 4: more to live here in New York? 657 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: I guess depends on right now. 658 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 4: I sort of upgraded. 659 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: No, right now, my apartment here is cheaper than my 660 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: apartment in New York, But I'm still paying for my 661 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: apartment in New York because it's you know, no sublet. 662 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: So my boyfriend's there, Oh. 663 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, I'm obviously behind on episodes, but it's it's 664 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 4: complicated asking questions of like, you know. 665 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: My boyfriend's there, he's gonna come out here, yeah soon, 666 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: And we're like trying to find a subletter shout out 667 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: to any Yeah, yeah, that would actually be. 668 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: Toxic, honest, say, Prime real Estate. I would love to 669 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: particula Bushwick. 670 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 4: Great, yeah, Bushwick, You're gonna come, You're gonna la. You 671 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 4: just need to be seduced in the right way by 672 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 4: the you know, yeah, you need to you need to 673 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 4: understand La. 674 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 5: I mean, I think what you need to do. 675 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 4: I mean me and Chris only moved here like a 676 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 4: couple of years ago, and we went full like Hollywood, 677 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 4: like we got into the Hollywood spirit. We were living 678 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 4: on Hollywood Boulevard. It's like, get into like the Hollywood 679 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 4: of the whole thing, old Hollywood and go to moose 680 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 4: Own Franks and like that was so fun. Okay, yeah, yeah, 681 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 4: so that booth, Yeah, Okay, that you're need to get 682 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,719 Speaker 4: in that spirit and get into like kind of like 683 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 4: and then this l a kind of idea can come 684 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: next and you can figure out what that means to you. 685 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 4: But I feel Hollywood, baby, it's Hollywood. 686 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a point. That's an entry point. I love that. 687 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 688 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: That's actually similar to because my suggestion for Sam it 689 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: was sort of adjacent to that, where I said, you 690 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: think you're an east side person, and of course you know, 691 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: we are in our own way, but why not lean 692 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 2: into the beechiness of it, Like why not go east side? 693 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: Right now? 694 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm in East Hollywood. 695 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 4: Well least you're in Hollywood, that's true. 696 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 5: No, I'm more west side. 697 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm like, yeah, just because you're in comedy 698 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 4: doesn't mean you have to go east side. Okay, okay, okay, 699 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 4: from I know, it's. 700 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 5: Like bush bricks straight to you. 701 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 3: I was looking for like a parallel leap, you know, 702 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 3: exactly exactly like we moved when when we were we 703 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 3: were living in New York and like Hell's Kitchen and 704 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 3: we had to move out, and we were looking like 705 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 3: wherever and Brooklyn, like various Brooklyn options were like more 706 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: expensive on the Upper west Side. 707 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 4: We moved to the Upper west Side. Whoa, and like, 708 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 4: you know, that was not you know, that was not cool. 709 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 4: And we were we were living like like it was heaven, 710 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 4: Like it was this tiny apartment but it had really 711 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 4: you know, at the top of a building. And then 712 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 4: like Central Park was our you know, tiny apartment, but 713 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 4: go downstairs and you're in Central Park. I mean it 714 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 4: was like anyway, just don't. 715 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 6: Assume west Side, baby, this is this is this has 716 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 6: to do with mirroring. 717 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: I will say where it's like even that, Like I 718 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: have never had the bravery or confidence if someone was like, 719 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: you can live on the Upper west Side for free, 720 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: I believe no, Like I believe that's not where my 721 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: people are. 722 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 4: Yes, And guess what, you don't need your I mean, 723 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 4: I mean, if you're like getting lunch with with other 724 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 4: people in comedy every day, what the hell? Okay, is 725 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 4: that really what you want? Don't you see them enough 726 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 4: at night the shows? Yeah? 727 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 5: Do you need them to coffee chef too? 728 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: Like to me, like I enjoyed retreating, okay, getting on 729 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 4: an a spread express. I went express train because of Express. 730 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 4: Like I've locked from saying. 731 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: You've been corrected so many times, You've corrected so many times. 732 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, literally happened, you saw it. But then you take 733 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 4: an express train okay, and. 734 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: You're actually the thing. 735 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 4: Yeah it sounds wrong, sounds simple, but no, yeah, it's 736 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 4: this idea. And and so I mean, we always, being Chris, 737 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 4: have always lived in places that. 738 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 5: People like have a reaction. Just when we moved here, 739 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 5: moved to. 740 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 4: Hollywood proper, you know, like Hollywood Boulevard, and and people 741 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 4: are like what okay, or they're like the people say 742 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 4: like most insane stuff. And then they're like there's the 743 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 4: guy's like, oh you just moved to La let me 744 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 4: tell you all the restaurants, Like I'm the best restaurant 745 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 4: guy there is, and I know everything. And they're like, 746 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 4: where do you live Hollywood. Oh there's nothing there, you know, 747 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 4: and it's like burn you know, It's just it's just 748 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 4: an ugly quality, like to literally be proud to and 749 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 4: then to articulate it someone. So it's like, so we 750 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 4: always enjoyed that there was a time period in Hell's Kitchen. 751 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 5: We're like a block from Times Square basically. 752 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 4: Like and people are like, oh God, and it's like no, 753 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 4: it's I mean, Chris is this thing like lover boy, 754 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 4: like like he enjoys being in a place, you know 755 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 4: when people are like tourists like it's all it's all tourists. 756 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 4: Is like He's like yeah, like it's great, Like they're 757 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 4: on vacation and I'm just like getting. 758 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 5: My coffee for the day, like totally I live here. 759 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 4: Like it's like I don't know, just like the whole 760 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 4: like hating Times Square thing, you know, it's like it's 761 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 4: it's a different way, okay beyond Yeah. 762 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 2: You know what I've had that realization about recently. I've 763 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: been looking back at, you know, my comedy life, and 764 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, should I have gone all in on 765 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: being a club comedian? Like I thought, wait, I thought 766 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 2: this whole time that was somehow not beneath me, obviously, 767 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 2: but somehow I was too alt and too cool, and 768 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to perform at basements and coffee shops. And 769 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 2: now I'm looking at those people, I'm like, wait, they 770 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 2: have the joy of like if they're performing somewhere with 771 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 2: there are a lot of tourists like performing for completely 772 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 2: different people every night, and people that are from all 773 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 2: over the country, and I am you know, of course 774 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 2: I love performing where we perform, but like it is, yeah, 775 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 2: it's people. 776 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: That are similar to us. It's people that are that 777 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: live in Brooklyn. 778 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 2: It's people that are sort of like upwardly mobile millennial 779 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 2: like queer adjacent millennials. And you do sort of wonder, 780 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: like wait, in my in my attempt to escape the cliche, 781 00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 2: I am only embracing and even more limiting, right, Like 782 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 2: at least there's. 783 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 4: A neutrality kind of to like in theory, there's a 784 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 4: little bit of a neutrality to a club in that like, 785 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 4: you know, any sort of wacky version like of you 786 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 4: know in theory would work in a club if you 787 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 4: get the laughs right. It's like it's like the unifying 788 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 4: sort of like tradesman nature of like well, if you 789 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,479 Speaker 4: can make them laugh, We'll put you up, which is true, 790 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 4: I would say, right like if you could you know, 791 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 4: in a club or something like and where I guess 792 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 4: in that other like scene and setting, it's a little 793 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 4: more like if the person who show it is like 794 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 4: sees what you're. 795 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 5: Going for. 796 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 4: Potential, they'll put you up, or like you know, they 797 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 4: they appreciate what you're like, they see that you're struggling 798 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 4: against the same uh, you know, to resist the same 799 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 4: tropes as because you are, and you're like there's a 800 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 4: taste like you know, and then and then it used 801 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 4: to be like you know, but I kind of was 802 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 4: pursuing both, I guess when I first started, like I 803 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 4: was very much when I first started literally like club 804 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 4: like trying to like get in a club, you know, 805 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,959 Speaker 4: like just the whole thing, and there was something sort 806 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 4: of there was something the harsh nature, the harsh, harsh 807 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 4: sort of showbiz kind of feeling of like well, if 808 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 4: I did get up there and was able to like 809 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 4: show that I can get anyone, any group of people 810 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 4: strangers to laugh, like you know, there's there is something 811 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 4: I knew cool about that and. 812 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely how I felt, Yes, this is how I felt 813 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 2: because I started in Boston and I'm not from there, 814 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 2: so it's not like I didn't have any sort of 815 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 2: hometown connection to it, but I just happened to be 816 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: living there and that's where I started, and that was 817 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: the exact way I felt where I had this sick 818 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 2: pleasure of like being in a room and it was 819 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 2: all guys with red sox CAFs and I was making 820 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: them laugh because I was saying the word Eiffel towering 821 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 2: about gay men doing it. 822 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, hysterical. Also, the bubble that we're in has 823 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: gotten more bubbly recently, like it did start. Like I 824 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: even feel like, you know, doing the Pine Box mic 825 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: in Bushwick. It was sort of where I found myself 826 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: and that was like, you know, I felt like, oh, 827 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: I'm performing for so many different types of guys that 828 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: I would never like out that. 829 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 4: Was Wait, you thought that was the wider group. The 830 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 4: Pine Box was the Pine Box of Broke Club. 831 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 2: In this analogy, hysterical, it's literally like at least it's 832 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 2: literally at least it's not only LGBT. 833 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 5: Right, right, I can picture that. 834 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: I remember, like these guys are like I forgot They're 835 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: so different and yet like I'm look at me performing 836 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: for them. 837 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 4: Well, also the host I mean the hostile crowd, like 838 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 4: the are the inherent like hostility that I at least 839 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 4: always project onto a comedy audience that isn't you know, 840 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 4: like there to see you, which has never been the 841 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 4: case for me except for once I started doing my show, 842 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 4: and then they're at least they're there on purpose to 843 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 4: see the show, even if they don't know me, you 844 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like it's a different thing, right, 845 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 4: But always comedy audience is like this, you know, I 846 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 4: just see them as this thing that like if I 847 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 4: do nothing, they're gonna hate me. And then like how 848 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 4: far away can from them hating me? Can I can? 849 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 4: I get? You know, like and it's just like a 850 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 4: failed proposition from the start of my mind or something, 851 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 4: and you know, just cause and anyway I forgot always 852 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 4: saying it. But but oh the hostile crowd, right like, 853 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 4: and so then I project I've always projected onto that 854 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 4: like a certain kind of like I just if you 855 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 4: could get inside the head of the Communian and go 856 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 4: like what is the what. 857 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 5: Are they picturing? 858 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 4: Like the personality that they project under the hostile crowd? 859 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 4: You know, like what is it? Yes? And like I 860 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,280 Speaker 4: and I think mine probably varies. There are different ones. 861 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 4: Like if I were in the club setting that I 862 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 4: thought was a very i don't know, like traditional whatever, 863 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 4: I like think that, then for them, I'm like this 864 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 4: weird girl or something, right, And then like in the 865 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 4: most you know, alternative whatever you know you call it scene, 866 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 4: like like suddenly I feel like this, like I don't 867 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 4: even know what, like like it's just yeah, I mean 868 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 4: that's the mirroring thing again, but just the personality of 869 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 4: the crowd, like what the. 870 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 2: Hell yeah are You also find that sometimes if you're 871 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 2: in a more alt uh you know, in a more 872 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 2: all crowd, then suddenly you are taking on the role 873 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 2: of like the conservative. 874 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 1: Oh I feel so republican, such straightforward woke audiences. Yeah 875 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 1: right right. 876 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 4: Right right right, like you're you're you're yeah, suddenly you 877 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 4: can't say anything anymore whatever. 878 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 2: Literally yeah, And you start to actually think that and 879 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 2: you're like oh no, oh, no, oh no, and now 880 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 2: it's too late. 881 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: What I recently, I saw Guy Brandham recently and he 882 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 1: was like made a joke about how I used to 883 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: like pour water on myself at shows, and I was like, oh, 884 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 1: that's true. I used to do this like bit where 885 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: I pour water all over myself and if I saw 886 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 1: someone do that, now, I'd like do such an eye roll, 887 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: like why. 888 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 4: Would you because it's too like it's it's like meaningless like. 889 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: Hard where I'm like, we get it, you're weird. Yeah yeah, 890 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: like let's move past that. 891 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, you got anything else kind of like 892 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 4: like like you're you're like day one like early kind 893 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 4: of like like like early comedy coming in and like 894 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 4: and like shipping up, Like your bit is that you're 895 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 4: shitting on what comedians do or whatever, Like that's classic, classic, 896 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 4: like it is like to get up and do bad 897 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 4: storm comedy like literally the easiest thing in the world. Yeah, 898 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 4: so I'm supposed to be you know, I remember like whatever, 899 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,439 Speaker 4: just you know, it's it's it's like try to write 900 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 4: one joke, to run straight. 901 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: Joke, really put yourself out there. 902 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 4: Ye see. It's you know, that's where it's like, I 903 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 4: don't know, it's but this this sort of thing of 904 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 4: this like whatever club alt thing that is always a 905 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 4: point of conversation and literally has. 906 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 1: Been since the beginning of time. 907 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's always and it always seems like. 908 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 4: I don't know, there's there's obviously something in that conversation 909 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 4: whether or not the scene like exists, because it's always 910 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 4: like someone being like they're like, well you see when 911 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 4: I or there actually was an old scene or there 912 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 4: wasn't no senor there's been this. It's like this this 913 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 4: arguing about the history of this thing. But it's like 914 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 4: sitting on the side, there's obviously like a fiction in 915 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 4: our mind that holds like an archetypal thing. 916 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 5: I'm sort of what we mean when we think of 917 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 5: this and when. 918 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 4: Were and like these two these two like polls kind 919 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 4: of or maybe it's like two different axes. One of 920 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 4: them is like because it's like and they're like, okay, 921 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 4: you know, it's this, oh you got to get like 922 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 4: over here the tradesman who's got to get everybody. He's 923 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 4: got to be able to make this person laugh and 924 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 4: this person laughs. It's gonna be you know, broad, it's 925 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 4: got it's got to be repeatable, and therefore it's gonna 926 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 4: be low risk and whatever. And then over on this 927 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 4: side like okay, they're doing and whatever, but there's no 928 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,879 Speaker 4: standards like like you know, you know, like uh, it's 929 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 4: a different you know, laziness. Laziness can occur on both sides. 930 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,720 Speaker 4: Playing to the audience can occur on both sides. Whatever, 931 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 4: it's just like, but there's something compelling about it. So 932 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 4: it's like the conversation shall never stop. And like I 933 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 4: as well just like enjoy the converence. Like I just 934 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 4: A'm like, we're having a conversation. I'm like, yeah, it's 935 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 4: it's always and I don't know there there is I rememberroot. 936 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 4: I mean like the dream is somehow I guess to 937 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 4: me is to do it all. 938 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: And be able to read the room and be like, 939 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: you know what, they're gonna love that bit where I 940 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 1: pour water myself. 941 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know we started, we started poog and 942 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 2: now we got to w TF because I was like, literally, wtf, 943 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 2: we are being so sorry? 944 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 5: I hate. 945 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 4: But I also love it. 946 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 2: We don't do it very often on this We don't 947 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 2: do it very often because I and we never not 948 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 2: to project on you, but exactly, I feel like you 949 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 2: guys also have an aversion to that. You don't want 950 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 2: to you know, sort of like do inside baseball. But 951 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 2: then of course, I ever actually of course it's all 952 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 2: I ever wanted to indulging. 953 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, should we should we do our first segment. 954 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're an hour in almost I would actually 955 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 1: love to do our first st No, no, no, no, Jack. 956 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 2: Just to be clear, I am I love everything we 957 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 2: have done to this point, and. 958 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: Even like, I'm like, I still feel like I want 959 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 1: to talk more about it, but I know we can't. Like, 960 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, I desperately want to. I also, 961 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's interesting because you're I'm like, 962 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm very curious how you feel about all of it, 963 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: because you are such a you know what, you want 964 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: to know who you are, and you've always I think, 965 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: so from the outside, it feels like phenomenal. 966 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 4: I love that. 967 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, well. 968 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 2: There's an intentionality. There's intentionality there. You know, you know 969 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,959 Speaker 2: what you're not doing as a performer mirroring Yeah hell yeah, yeah, 970 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,280 Speaker 2: you're the person and the audience is the mirror. 971 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, yeah serious, Why I'm reduced to segment? 972 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,720 Speaker 5: I'm sorry you got excited. 973 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 2: Okay, So, Jacqueline, our first segment is called Straight Shooters, 974 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,800 Speaker 2: and in this segment, we test your familiarity with and 975 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 2: complicity and straight culture by giving you a series of 976 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 2: rapid fire questions where you have to choose one thing 977 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 2: or another thing. 978 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,280 Speaker 1: And the one. 979 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 2: Rule is you can't ask any questions about how the 980 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 2: game works. You can't ask any follow up questions. If 981 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 2: you do, we will actually completely change our tune on 982 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 2: you and dislike you favor sensing a question already and 983 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 2: we and and it has been established in the midst. 984 00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 1: Of this that's a question exactly alright, I'm gonna. 985 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna save you from yourself by starting with the 986 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 2: first question. Okay, all right, Jacqueline compiling adosier or stockpiling 987 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 2: in the chalet? 988 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: Wait? Wait? 989 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 4: Am I supposed to say mine? Okay, I'm saying no, like, 990 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 4: which one I like? Or am I trying to be like? 991 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 5: Here's the straight one? 992 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 4: Hold on compiling a dossier or CHALETI I mean, which 993 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 4: one do I want? Or which one do I live? 994 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 3: As? 995 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 5: I mean, I guess. 996 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,919 Speaker 4: I'm compiling a dossier. Yeah, I'm not happy about it though. 997 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Jacqueline, Well, no one ever Jacqueline a palindrome 998 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: or a house that's not a home, a house that's 999 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:47,879 Speaker 1: not a home. Jacqueline splitting an app or spitting a. 1000 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 4: Rap, spitting our fucking rap. I guess I will shu. 1001 00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 4: I shall not split nap unless it's three per person. 1002 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's a whole conversation for me. But 1003 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 4: keep it, keep it going into the rabbit fire. 1004 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: I'll keep okay, Okay, tossing the pigskin or embodying a Christen. 1005 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 1: I love that. 1006 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 4: That's beautiful tossing the pig skin despite not I don't 1007 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,879 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm saying which i'd rather do. 1008 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 4: You didn't tell me, and so I'm just sort of 1009 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 4: choosing yeah. 1010 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 2: With no elation, reduce, reuse, recycle, stop, drop and roll 1011 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 2: stop stop, a skip and a jump, or gypsies, tramps 1012 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 2: and thieves. 1013 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: Well, gypsy thieves, Okay, Jacqueline a bottle of water or 1014 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 1: a long lost daughter. 1015 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:55,879 Speaker 2: Daughter daughter, Jacqueline entering a new era or exiting through 1016 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 2: the gift shop. 1017 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,439 Speaker 1: Wow, I mean that was an amazing rap. 1018 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 2: That was an incredible Now we can talk. Yeah, yeah, 1019 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,399 Speaker 2: So this is like I feel like, so we rank 1020 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 2: our guests performance on a scale of one to one 1021 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 2: thousand dubs, and I have to say, I actually think 1022 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 2: that was a one thousand And I'll tell you why, 1023 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 2: because the journey of uncertainty to complete embodiment, Like at 1024 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,359 Speaker 2: the end, you really were just like gift shop. Yeah, 1025 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 2: I agree, there was any felt there was an art 1026 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 2: there was. 1027 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 1: I would say it was a romant. Wait, what is 1028 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 1: it called? Building? Is romance? 1029 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 2: I would say you came of a came of age. 1030 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 2: You were you were Emma Stone and poor things, and 1031 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 2: you started out baby brained and you ended an empowered. 1032 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,240 Speaker 5: Woman because I had to find my own code, because. 1033 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 1: You have to find you. That is I mean this 1034 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: talk about our conversation around mirroring, like this was like 1035 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: you were like, well, I'm mirroring you, and we were like, no, 1036 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: it's about your journey. 1037 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, that was you know sort of yeah, 1038 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 2: to answer the general question, like the whole point is 1039 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 2: that everyone's confused and then you see how they react. 1040 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 4: No, no, totally and that actually I was thrilled when you 1041 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 4: wouldn't let me ask the questions at the beginning because 1042 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 4: I had to surrender, okay, and then I became you know, no, 1043 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 4: the journey you saw, right was then okay, you guys 1044 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 4: and the listener all know sort of the game. I 1045 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 4: don't know whether I am you know, I don't know 1046 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 4: what my answers are meaning if there is a specific 1047 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 4: sort of you know, I'm supposed to be saying what 1048 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 4: I like and at the end, you're gonna tell me 1049 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 4: how straight I am or not. Okay. I went through that. 1050 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:39,759 Speaker 5: I literally went through that. 1051 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, okay, well, I was 1052 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,359 Speaker 4: like entering a new era. I was like, what's coming, 1053 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 4: like like my interpretations of the whole thing, and then 1054 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 4: and then yeah, and then it just became well, well, 1055 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 4: no one's fucking helping me, okay, okay, so I'm just 1056 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 4: gonna go with like I was like, so I was 1057 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 4: hung up on this kind of Yeah, I was hung 1058 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 4: up in this straight like thing for a little bit, like, oh, 1059 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,399 Speaker 4: you think I'm straight, and I'm going to say yeah, 1060 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 4: but then I forget what the oh embodying a Christen right, 1061 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 4: and I just couldn't. I was like, no, fuck it, 1062 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 4: I'd rather toss the pig skin right now than body 1063 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 4: a chrystin. I don't know, like, I'd rather even like 1064 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 4: where the drag of the of the of the of 1065 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 4: the pigskin character. So then it just became my own, yeah, 1066 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 4: my own code of like you know. 1067 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 1: What sang to me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like a 1068 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,280 Speaker 1: shark test. It's it's yeah. 1069 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,399 Speaker 4: I struggled when I had one of those two. I mean, well, 1070 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 4: of course with all the parenthetical like well. 1071 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 2: I was about to say, like a task like this 1072 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 2: for someone who is parenthetical inclined is complete. Yeah, is 1073 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 2: a nightmare because you can't basically you know, what's going 1074 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,879 Speaker 2: through your mind is like, well, I hope they don't 1075 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 2: think I'm picking this for the wrong reason. But all 1076 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 2: I can say is what the thing is? 1077 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean, doing a literal RORS test. I can't think 1078 00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 1: of anything that I would get more in my head 1079 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: about because it's like, well, I know this is like 1080 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: revealing something about me, so so I can't even say 1081 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 1: it honestly any No. 1082 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 4: I so it was a literal I took a literal 1083 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 4: one in a formal setting of like a battery of 1084 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 4: psychological tests. Once it was like it was, It wasn't 1085 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,760 Speaker 4: like a friend with a rorshack. It was like absolute 1086 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 4: real and then like about like you know, and I 1087 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 4: couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it was all this 1088 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 4: like uh, projective subject there I think it was the 1089 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 4: I forget which one it was, but literally like draw 1090 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 4: person like all the stuff you see in like movies 1091 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 4: where they're assessing you know, like they're like draw person, 1092 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 4: then you do it. It's like and obviously you're sitting 1093 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,839 Speaker 4: there going like you know, like okay, like I draw 1094 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 4: stick figure, like like there's like a million ways I. 1095 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: Go about it, like just tell me what each one means, 1096 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: and I'll draw the one that. Yeah, like I think 1097 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,280 Speaker 1: I should be how. 1098 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 4: Like I trying to escape the system almost like okay, 1099 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 4: I'm gonna you know, I'm just like I'm performing for you. 1100 00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 4: So like but in a rorshack, you know, it was like, well, well, 1101 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 4: first of I'm seeing multiple things at once. If I 1102 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 4: look at it, like that's the whole object that I 1103 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 4: see this wolf's face okay, And then I'm like or 1104 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,840 Speaker 4: you know, or like pull back and I see a 1105 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,320 Speaker 4: whole body of like a sort of person and whatever. 1106 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 4: Or and then I'm like, or, well all of these 1107 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 4: like have a vaginal thing because they're all literally like 1108 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 4: folded in half. Yeah, and that depth like the ink 1109 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,879 Speaker 4: is most inky in the center. Like it's so I'm 1110 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 4: just like, so they're all going to be like vaginas. 1111 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 4: But like we're like we just we know that right, 1112 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:31,720 Speaker 4: like it's. 1113 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 1: A specific the form. 1114 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, And doing all that and just talking talking and 1115 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 4: basically saying like you know, insisting on saying like twenty 1116 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,799 Speaker 4: things that I saw and and then you know, I'm 1117 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 4: diagnosed as an overincorporator, like and I take him too literally. 1118 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 4: They're like takes in too much information, more information than 1119 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 4: you know you then is useful you can diagnosed. 1120 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,879 Speaker 1: I guess I've never heard over incorporator. 1121 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like it was a formal like it 1122 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,799 Speaker 4: was a word used in a in that setting, like 1123 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 4: over incorporation takes in vast you know, more information than 1124 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 4: than you can or would be even useful to process. WHOA, 1125 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,280 Speaker 4: And so that can be like noticing like a facial 1126 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,399 Speaker 4: expression like do you hate me, like you know. 1127 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally totally yeah. 1128 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 4: You know, I'll like just sometimes and sometimes I'll go 1129 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 4: for it and be like like you know, my mother 1130 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,359 Speaker 4: or something like feeling completely because I feel completely free 1131 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 4: with them. I'm like, oh, I know you just said 1132 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 4: you just said that because dadda and you're actually thinking that, 1133 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 4: you know, And like sometimes I'm dead wrong, but I 1134 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 4: also become enchanted by what I perceived, like of course, 1135 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 4: and like I kind of know I'm wrong, it's hard 1136 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 4: to let go of. 1137 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you know, we have to in this 1138 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 2: podcast we ring the jone diddy and alarm when we're 1139 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 2: telling ourselves stories. In order to live, I have to, 1140 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,839 Speaker 2: I have to go ahead and ring the jone didi 1141 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 2: and alarm when it comes to your overincorporation. 1142 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 4: Oh my god, yeah, oh my god? Why uh why? 1143 00:55:58,560 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 2: Why? 1144 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 4: I right to know myself? I write to know what 1145 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,320 Speaker 4: I think or whatever. Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a 1146 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 4: didan Did you notice that on the cover of Your 1147 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 4: Magical Thinking in the title mm hmm, that it's white letters. 1148 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 5: In blue and then the name John isn't there. 1149 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 4: I don't know if anyone else noticed that. I noticed 1150 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 4: that about nine years ago, and I wondered if I 1151 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 4: was the only person who spotted that. 1152 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 1: That fine detail. I uh so. 1153 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 2: I read My Year of Magical Thinking after going through 1154 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 2: a breakup in my twenties, and it is such a 1155 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 2: specifically you know, young dumb gay guy experience to truly 1156 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 2: be reading about this woman losing her husband and be 1157 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:49,240 Speaker 2: liked because I am going through a breakup with someone 1158 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 2: that I'm like still friends with. 1159 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 4: Incredible and like as you should. I mean, that is 1160 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,839 Speaker 4: the right of the book bookstore, like browser. Yeah, is 1161 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 4: to take the most you know, the biggest, the grandest, 1162 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 4: the most depthful, and apply, yeah, apply as needed. 1163 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: This is like when I have homework. Yeah, totally. 1164 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,400 Speaker 2: You know what I'm thinking, Like, we do need to 1165 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 2: sort of land on a straight topic. But I'm like, oh, 1166 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 2: I forgot. 1167 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 4: You know. 1168 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: We either could take a left. 1169 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 2: Turn and choose something, or we could like look back 1170 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 2: on this conversation. 1171 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 1: I actually had a pitch. Oh yeah, what's your pitch? 1172 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 1: The straight topic is ourselves? 1173 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 2: Wow. 1174 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: I felt like, specifically in the stand up comedy conversation, 1175 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 1: I it was so WTF that I felt like we 1176 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: really were like almost in like who have I become? 1177 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 1: What was I made for? I remember listening to WTF 1178 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 1: when I was, you know, twenty, and being like this 1179 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 1: is what stand up is. This is a real fucking shit. 1180 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh no, we're literally doing it. 1181 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: People are going to listen to this, yes and be 1182 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 1: twenty and be like that's what stand up is? 1183 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 5: That's now? 1184 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 4: Is it now? Because you felt we were performing a 1185 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 4: kind of like straight like you know, sportsman comedy vibes, 1186 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 4: do you think we were doing it? I think we 1187 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 4: were doing it by trying to almost like double back 1188 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 4: from you know, like like you like you're kind of 1189 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 4: saying about feeling the you know, the on we of 1190 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 4: of the alternative scene or something. 1191 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 2: On we of the water pouring. Yeah, we are trying 1192 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 2: to react against that and almost have the fact that 1193 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 2: we were I don't want to say, excluded from whatever 1194 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 2: the mainstream scene is. 1195 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 5: Because it's like did you audition? You know what I mean. 1196 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 2: It's like, yes, I'm not saying we did it, but like, 1197 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 2: of course, but did It's like being in the you 1198 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 2: know what it is. It's sort of being at the window, 1199 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 2: the like Saxo Fifth Avenue holiday window and looking in 1200 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 2: and being like if only I could go in there. Meanwhile, 1201 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 2: the door is open right next to you, but it 1202 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 2: has never occurred to you to go inside. 1203 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, you're you're it's like thinking you yeah, 1204 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:17,360 Speaker 4: it's luckily it's all interesting, like any path is interesting, right, yes, 1205 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 4: like any any way you go? 1206 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 1: But it is well. 1207 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 4: No, sorry nothing, no, no, I was just trying to 1208 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 4: force the topic. 1209 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 2: But but I know I want to. I think it's 1210 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:30,920 Speaker 2: like a sort of a fun exercise. You've never done 1211 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 2: it this way before, of like I do like ourselves. 1212 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 2: I think something along the lines of like not the past, 1213 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 2: but like the there alternative history. 1214 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: Like yeah, I think with the stand up conversation in particular, 1215 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 1: there's something about like standing your edges that just inherently 1216 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 1: happens over time of like aging aging, you. 1217 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 4: Get DNA, stand it all, that's making four copies? 1218 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Wait, go on, well you just get you have performed 1219 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 1: for more audiences. 1220 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 4: You are like you're handing off the edges. The edges 1221 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 4: need to sharpen the stick. 1222 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 1: I mean one would like to. But I think there's 1223 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: a you know, it's it's for me at least, it 1224 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 1: was like this weird clump thing. 1225 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 4: That like was like that's you. 1226 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it was like no, maybe it's molded 1227 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: a little more. But I sometimes I missed that weird 1228 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 1: imperfection that was like so large. 1229 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 4: But is now as you become go from the rough 1230 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 4: to the polished stone, let's say, being tumbled about in 1231 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 4: different environments, right, Yeah, has your success rate gone up? 1232 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,440 Speaker 4: Like is this like you the edges stand it off 1233 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,479 Speaker 4: and know you go down easier, like like you get 1234 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 4: more last more consistently. Right, So it's it's a metaphor 1235 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 4: of getting better. 1236 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, but I like flaws and sometimes sometimes I'm like, 1237 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 1: am I too focused on sucuccess? Yeah, to still be 1238 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 1: to not like pursue what's genuinely interesting to me. 1239 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Because well, I've always felt like it was almost 1240 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 4: like you know, in yourself, your own degree of difficulty, 1241 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 4: m like Okay, I'd really love to talk about that, 1242 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 4: or I'd love to pull that, or I think that 1243 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 4: thing is good, but like I don't know how to 1244 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 4: do it, And then it's like it's kind of like 1245 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 4: kind of like interesting. That's like you getting up in 1246 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 4: the morning like like I don't know, like the sculptor 1247 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 4: or something like being like we're talking about sultors, like 1248 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 4: you know, like I don't like I'm going to do 1249 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 4: sculpt I'm gonna do fingernails like like you know, in 1250 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 4: this way like no one's ever done a fingernail without 1251 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 4: the limestone crumbling or whatever, and I'm like, get to 1252 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 4: do it. So it's like I always feel like there's 1253 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 4: a little bit of that kind of like what the 1254 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 4: gaptu and what you know you can pull off and 1255 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 4: like execute well versus like and I always want to 1256 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 4: move on to the thing that's out of reach because 1257 01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 4: it's interesting you know. So that's one of those things 1258 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 4: like when here, when you here like the straightest like 1259 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 4: comedy piece. I know we're doing it, we're doing it, 1260 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 4: but just to like dive in even Moore. 1261 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean ourselves. Yeah, yeah, so I actually think you should. 1262 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 4: There's like there's like this thing like some comedy interview 1263 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 4: on I don't know, like HBO is like from a 1264 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 4: million years ago. It's like Gary Shandling and Jerry Seinfeld. 1265 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 5: Okay, this is what I think. 1266 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 4: Me here recounting this anisode is the most whatever thing, 1267 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:29,120 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 1268 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 1: People are not expecting this episode. This is so iconic. 1269 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 4: It was like, I get, I'm not leaning in. 1270 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 2: Us to have like for our gay podcast to have 1271 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 2: Jacquly Novak on and then the topic is Jerry Side. 1272 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 1: It's so incredible. 1273 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 4: I can't even believe that this is. Yeah, like the 1274 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 4: projection the fear of like me not wanting to do 1275 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 4: behind the scenes like comedy ship because like you know, 1276 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 4: it's like it eclipses the actual comedy, you know, like 1277 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 4: nine hours talking about comedy in one hour of comedy 1278 01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 4: put out whatever like personally or something, you know, or 1279 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 4: six hundred they'll just do it once, just for fun 1280 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 4: because we were in it, but like it was like 1281 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 4: and you know, we should find it share it with 1282 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 4: the listener. But there's this moment where like I think 1283 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 4: Jerry's talking about once he figures out the joke, like 1284 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 4: once he figures out the best way it works, just 1285 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 4: locking it in and just you know, the intonation, the 1286 01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 4: rhythm that you know, and then it's locked and it works, 1287 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,280 Speaker 4: and it's just don't deviate from it. You found it, 1288 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 4: you figured it out. And Gary Shanling's like, wow, like well, 1289 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 4: you know, like you're just like I could never every time, 1290 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 4: like like I forgot what he says exactly, but he 1291 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 4: started saying like like I couldn't live like that essentially, 1292 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 4: like you know, and he's like, and that's that's why 1293 01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 4: you're like way more successful than me or whatever, Jerry, 1294 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 4: you know, and it's like, oh, he's kind of like 1295 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 4: once you know, can't help himself, but like sort of 1296 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 4: find it and reinterpret it in the moment, and like, 1297 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 4: I don't know, I have I feel like those I 1298 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 4: vacinate between those two straight mail polls. 1299 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 2: Also just the revelation the realization that like the one 1300 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 2: who is quote unquote more successful is the one who 1301 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 2: is more rigid and the and the one who is 1302 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:14,160 Speaker 2: more you know, what's the word dialectic, Yeah, is the 1303 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 2: one who is less. 1304 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 4: Successful and arguably though like you know, someone could be 1305 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,640 Speaker 4: like they are both up on that stage as legends 1306 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,000 Speaker 4: of comedy, like you know, they're both fully being lifted 1307 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,480 Speaker 4: up as whatever, and it's just Gary like Shandling being 1308 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,280 Speaker 4: like funny and cool by being like, you know, also 1309 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 4: there's that. 1310 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 2: Right, like of course Gary Chandling is yeah, garyl it's 1311 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,920 Speaker 2: really obviously success, you. 1312 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 4: Know, kings there. But he's making that joke almost to 1313 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 4: I think, probably to sort of suggest like I'm not 1314 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 4: trying to call myself some great like I'm I'm a 1315 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 4: true artist and you're you know, trade. Yeah, it's good. 1316 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 4: It's it's like, yeah, that ship like. 1317 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, fun to watch. That Ship's funny. 1318 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely, That's like here's you know what, here's a real 1319 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 2: question of straight And if you had to for the 1320 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 2: rest of your life watch either only comedian on comedian 1321 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,120 Speaker 2: conversations or actress round. 1322 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 1: Tables, which one would you choose? 1323 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, and this is a really dark realization. 1324 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 2: I think I'm the number one fan of actors. You know, 1325 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 2: I love watching Julianne Moore talk about a character. If 1326 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 2: I had to choose a gun to my head, I 1327 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 2: would choose comedians I and that is a really dark Yeah, 1328 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 2: I would choose comedian as well, which is actually less 1329 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 2: surprising coming from me. 1330 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:38,200 Speaker 1: But it's still a bummer. And in fact, sometimes I don't. 1331 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 4: Think it is. I mean, no, no, because here's the 1332 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 4: thing that you know, the actress roundtable. It's like the comedian. 1333 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 4: You're you're having a conversation with the director, you're having 1334 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 4: a conversation with a writer, you're having a conversation with 1335 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 4: the actor when you're having a witch I mean, like 1336 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 4: the comedians, all those things. So it almost feels like 1337 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,640 Speaker 4: you get to talk, You get to talk about writing, 1338 01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 4: you get to talk about performance. You know, I don't know, 1339 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:03,080 Speaker 4: like verse is the actor has to They can't sort 1340 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 4: of bad mouth the writer during the roundtable, right they can, 1341 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 4: like the text is sort of the text is what 1342 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 4: the text was, and they're talking about what they brought 1343 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 4: to and whatever. 1344 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah you can't. 1345 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,840 Speaker 2: But I also think the most interesting thing about an 1346 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,480 Speaker 2: actress roundtable is because they're also poised and clearly you know, 1347 01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 2: media training, whatever else The most interesting thing is those 1348 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 2: little pockets of truth where you actually get a peek 1349 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 2: into how much of a nightmare it probably is to 1350 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 2: just be like literally literally a woman in Hollywood. Yeah, 1351 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 2: not to be like cliche. Yeah, but like when you're 1352 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 2: like you sort of get it peking like, oh you 1353 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 2: were not treated well for the majority of your life. 1354 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that that's you know. I actually don't really 1355 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 4: watch artists actress round tables so much so. 1356 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't even pull the word out that's fair. 1357 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,320 Speaker 4: No, it's interesting, Like I'm like kind of like like, oh, 1358 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 4: it really says a lot like but I also don't 1359 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,520 Speaker 4: watch anything I don't know, like I'm I mean, that's 1360 01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 4: not true. I watched hours of television over night that 1361 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:07,440 Speaker 4: I watch ye genarrative programming and will. 1362 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 1: I think the actra people thing. I've never watched a 1363 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,959 Speaker 1: full I just see it the little clips that people 1364 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 1: pull out for memes and such. And I actually think 1365 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 1: sometimes when gay guys are obsessed with it, I am 1366 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 1: sort of I feel a disconncted from my community because 1367 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, but what is there other than like what 1368 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 1: you're coming at this with, Like. 1369 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 4: Is it only the actress? Is it is it primarily actresses. Yeah, 1370 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,959 Speaker 4: it's really not coming for the actor around tables. 1371 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 1: And it's like, you're not actors. You just think these 1372 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: are like silly ladies. Well there is, of. 1373 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,520 Speaker 2: Course, in the same way that all gay male like 1374 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 2: whatever diva worship can be boiled down to. You can 1375 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,000 Speaker 2: either see it as an incredible respect for women or 1376 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 2: as like the most objective, like literally the definition of objectification. 1377 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,440 Speaker 2: And it's like, right, so, if you're pulling out a 1378 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 2: clip where I don't know, I'm sure you know Kate 1379 01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,959 Speaker 2: Lenchette says something that is ridiculous, you ultimately just making 1380 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:01,480 Speaker 2: fun of her. 1381 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 8: Oh totally, yeah, yeah, No, I mean yeah, but that's 1382 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,880 Speaker 8: a that's a love that you know, I guess could 1383 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 8: lift you up or take you down. 1384 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 4: That kind of worship that very specific. 1385 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,040 Speaker 1: And it'll change in a second. 1386 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 5: Right, Oh God, the figure I don't. 1387 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:22,720 Speaker 2: Know if you've seen I don't know if you've seen 1388 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,599 Speaker 2: Capodi versus The Swan's Jack. 1389 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:29,000 Speaker 4: Haven't. I haven't yet, I haven't, I haven't. Right. 1390 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:30,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1391 01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,320 Speaker 4: My friend was telling me that it's great and I 1392 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,719 Speaker 4: should watch it for the titles alone, that the title 1393 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,040 Speaker 4: the title treatment was. 1394 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:43,200 Speaker 2: Like wow, watching the title design Yeah, flop Era for 1395 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,559 Speaker 2: a while, so I'm glad somebody's out there. 1396 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 4: I worked with guy anyway. He was phenomenal. 1397 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 2: You know what's great title design The Leftovers Leftovers on HBO. Okay, yeah, 1398 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to keep you too long, Jacqueline. Oh well, 1399 01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,760 Speaker 2: I mean we're I'm I could literally talk for hours, 1400 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,400 Speaker 2: but I know you're global. 1401 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 1: By the way. 1402 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 2: By the way, I should say, since we are approximately 1403 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 2: two hours in and have not promoted special, I should 1404 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 2: say you are on a global promotion tour for your 1405 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 2: Netflix special Get on your Knees. 1406 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 1: Which, if you haven't seen, Run Don't Walk. 1407 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I will say on the record I 1408 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 2: was their first first night of previews. 1409 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,920 Speaker 4: That are you serious? 1410 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm serious. In fact, do you want to hear 1411 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 2: something crazy? I think I might have been. I don't 1412 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:31,680 Speaker 2: think I planned it this way, but I think I 1413 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,520 Speaker 2: might have been first roun whoa. 1414 01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 4: If I could feel that? Yeah, like like, but I 1415 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:38,599 Speaker 4: might be wrong. 1416 01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,959 Speaker 1: I don't. I think I think something happened where. 1417 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 4: This is there intimate in a way that everyone feels 1418 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,519 Speaker 4: like they're in the first row, even if they're in 1419 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:47,680 Speaker 4: the very bad That's how you know. 1420 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you think maybe I was a binder exactly, so 1421 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,240 Speaker 2: John was there taking notes and I don't remember being next. 1422 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 2: I don't remember being in the same row as him, 1423 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 2: so I think I must have been right maybe picking through. 1424 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:02,640 Speaker 1: You know. 1425 01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a moment where I was like he 1426 01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,200 Speaker 4: thought I was. He thought I forgot something or I 1427 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,599 Speaker 4: did or something. Oh I know it was and he 1428 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,640 Speaker 4: made this gesture like just with his fist that was 1429 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 4: just kept just doing it and then I'm distracted by 1430 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,160 Speaker 4: the gesture, like what, like, what's going on? And then 1431 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,080 Speaker 4: I really like it was it was like I forgot 1432 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 4: to say this line about the bouquet, like and he 1433 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 4: just he was loud about just because it was like 1434 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 4: there was nothing gesture that he expected, just like if 1435 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,680 Speaker 4: someone's hand was authentically holding like like an improv like 1436 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,680 Speaker 4: you know, the phone is like this, the phone's not 1437 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,200 Speaker 4: the phone symbol, right, so it's like almost like that, 1438 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,080 Speaker 4: like he's holding a bouquet like nothing, and I received 1439 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,400 Speaker 4: the buque from stage and realized what like, but it 1440 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 4: just caused like anyway, But yeah, those initial those initial 1441 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:52,679 Speaker 4: previews sales where everything really got that ship going on fire. 1442 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,360 Speaker 5: So thank you for showing up. 1443 01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:57,599 Speaker 1: That was like a pre pandemic. 1444 01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:02,760 Speaker 2: I mean that was like what probably Yeah, yeah, reopen. No, 1445 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 2: there's I mean, it's been a long it's so funny. 1446 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,719 Speaker 2: There's always there's actually another random connection. So Carry Batton, 1447 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,599 Speaker 2: who wrote the New Yorker piece, is actually a friend 1448 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,840 Speaker 2: of mine, and I remember when she was like starting it. 1449 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,559 Speaker 2: I was like, what a funny connection. 1450 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 4: Yes, she's great. 1451 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:31,479 Speaker 1: Okay, shall we do our final segments? Sam, Okay, Jacqueline. 1452 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,479 Speaker 1: Our final segment is called shout Outs, and in this 1453 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,720 Speaker 1: segment we pay homage to the Grand Street tradition of 1454 01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 1: the radio shout out and give a shout out to 1455 01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:43,880 Speaker 1: anything that we are enjoying at all people, places, things ideas. 1456 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 1: Imagine it to actually, and you're at TRL shouting out 1457 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,719 Speaker 1: to your squad back home about anything you like. So, George, 1458 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,800 Speaker 1: you do have one? Yeah, I have one that I 1459 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 1: actually feel. 1460 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,760 Speaker 2: I thought of it while we were recording, and I 1461 01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 2: feel sort of good about it. 1462 01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, what's up freaks some losers? 1463 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,560 Speaker 2: I want to give a shout out to the technology Bluetooth, 1464 01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 2: and this is a sort of smart one. 1465 01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:05,479 Speaker 1: Here's what I want to say. 1466 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,719 Speaker 2: This is a technology that has existed now for decades 1467 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 2: and still does not work. I have never been able 1468 01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,400 Speaker 2: to connect a phone to a speaker. I have never 1469 01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 2: been able to air to draw, I have never been 1470 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,439 Speaker 2: able to use Bluetooth correctly. And at first I was like, 1471 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 2: what are we doing here? How has no one fixed this? 1472 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,800 Speaker 2: And I'm starting to realize that it actually is sort 1473 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,960 Speaker 2: of an empowering narrative of like this technology that has 1474 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 2: always existed. Everyone knows what it is, and yet it 1475 01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:31,599 Speaker 2: refuses to perfect itself. It's an anti capitalist, it is 1476 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,920 Speaker 2: sort of it has a free spirit, and it's actually 1477 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:38,519 Speaker 2: the imperfection of it in the face of so much 1478 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 2: like algorithmic perfection, you know, that is eating up everything 1479 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:48,840 Speaker 2: else almost makes it seem almost like non digital and 1480 01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 2: it is a work of art, is almost it's analogic, 1481 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,720 Speaker 2: and there's something about it that almost points to an 1482 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,840 Speaker 2: earlier time, in earlier technologies. 1483 01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 1: And I have to say, I really up respecting it. 1484 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,880 Speaker 1: So shout out to Bluetooth. Shout out to Bluetooth. I 1485 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 1: love that. I also the dirtiness of like when you 1486 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 1: like have to go look at like I want to 1487 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,599 Speaker 1: connect the Bluetooth, and you see all the Bluetooth you've 1488 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,120 Speaker 1: ever connected to yeah, and. 1489 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 4: It's just like, yeah, bluetooths and which is what yeah, 1490 01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,639 Speaker 4: letters numbers. There also was that period where I feel 1491 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 4: like Bluetooth like was it before it got bought or 1492 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,880 Speaker 4: something where it was like still kind of like a 1493 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,880 Speaker 4: third party technology. It was there's like a little sticker 1494 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,720 Speaker 4: on it, like like Bluetooth powered this, you know, and 1495 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,240 Speaker 4: that name like it's it's like most things are not. 1496 01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,599 Speaker 4: It's like m one chips and things. It's not like 1497 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,519 Speaker 4: it's like a branded yeah, branded like tech. 1498 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,720 Speaker 1: It's exciting, it's exciting and Yeah, that's a really beautiful one. 1499 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:46,720 Speaker 4: Joh, I love that. 1500 01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:53,880 Speaker 1: Okay, I have one. Okay, what is up everyone around 1501 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,559 Speaker 1: the globe? I want to give a huge shout out 1502 01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:01,920 Speaker 1: to I think the song is called The Light of 1503 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:06,479 Speaker 1: a Clear Blue Morning by Dolly Parton. I haven't loved 1504 01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,519 Speaker 1: this song so much, and I have been, you know, 1505 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,360 Speaker 1: I listened to it and it's one of those songs 1506 01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,280 Speaker 1: now where I'm like, I'm crying to this song. I 1507 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,120 Speaker 1: don't know, I think I'm taking the wrong meanings out 1508 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 1: of it, but whatever it means to me is what 1509 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 1: it means to me, and that's okay. I first heard 1510 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 1: it because Waksa Hachie did a cover of it, and 1511 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,160 Speaker 1: I was like, this is the best song I've ever heard. 1512 01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,679 Speaker 1: Then come to find out it's a cover and guess 1513 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,639 Speaker 1: what the original? I like even more? 1514 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,080 Speaker 5: And was it written by Dolly? 1515 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:34,200 Speaker 4: I believe. 1516 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:36,360 Speaker 1: Wrote so many songs? 1517 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 4: What are the ones? Big ones that Dolly? That ever? 1518 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,840 Speaker 1: We always loved so many more? 1519 01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, So shout out is the story that she did 1520 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 2: I always love you and Julina in the same day. 1521 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 1: Isn't that big story? We'll talk, So shout out to 1522 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 1: Dolly Parton, shout out to Waxahachi for re bringing that 1523 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,720 Speaker 1: song to the surface, and shout out to all music ever. 1524 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,519 Speaker 4: Going to because I'm supposed to be one And now 1525 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:02,600 Speaker 4: Jacquey want to do. 1526 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 5: Jacqueline the guest always does one? 1527 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,479 Speaker 4: Probably Oh yeah, yes. 1528 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 1: And we and I will say we always. 1529 01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,719 Speaker 2: It's like we always think of them on the spot, 1530 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,719 Speaker 2: like at the time, so you don't have to feel nervous. 1531 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,479 Speaker 2: Let me think, yeah, and you can take all the 1532 01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:18,160 Speaker 2: time you need. 1533 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,640 Speaker 4: No, I need a trigger, you need a suggestion, like 1534 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:22,880 Speaker 4: I need something to get me going. 1535 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:24,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, blankness, I just go. 1536 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,320 Speaker 2: How about how about what we were talking about was 1537 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 2: going to be your straight topic. 1538 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:27,880 Speaker 7: Something. 1539 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,559 Speaker 4: I thought about that, but I thought, okay, well yeah, 1540 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,880 Speaker 4: continuer sort Okay, shout out Alpha okay, Okay, shout out 1541 01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,360 Speaker 4: Alpha Bins. Okay, shout out Alpha thirty percent off Okay, 1542 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:41,720 Speaker 4: what's up Alpha? Okay? Okay, I just want to give 1543 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,800 Speaker 4: a shout out my no, you know what, I really 1544 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,679 Speaker 4: want to shout out the new the news. Okay. There's 1545 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,040 Speaker 4: these new brands. I don't know how new they are, 1546 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:52,640 Speaker 4: but they're the Alpha Extensions. 1547 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:52,880 Speaker 1: Okay. 1548 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:54,680 Speaker 5: They're They're like people going, hey, you. 1549 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,680 Speaker 4: Know Alpha, and how you don't want that out in 1550 01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,240 Speaker 4: their regular home. Well guess what Alpha can look more 1551 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 4: beautiful because we have this new collection called like a 1552 01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:02,880 Speaker 4: Vira or something, and then they have. 1553 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,360 Speaker 5: Another one for your concord or whatever. 1554 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,840 Speaker 4: And I'm really quite enchanted. Okay. And I'll even say 1555 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,759 Speaker 4: this morning I went in and I got I got 1556 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,200 Speaker 4: thirty percent off. Classic Elf was always thirty percent off. 1557 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,040 Speaker 4: I mean, not all here, okay, but you go in there, 1558 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 4: you fee on Spider and usually I'm too overwhelmed design 1559 01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,320 Speaker 4: whole thing. But today I went into a con hair 1560 01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:24,960 Speaker 4: store and the spirit was alive in the can hearing 1561 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,600 Speaker 4: store because I just got two track shelf things. I 1562 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,679 Speaker 4: didn't even get the baskets that actually go on the track. 1563 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 4: I get the tracks. I'm gonna bring them home, make 1564 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 4: sure they fit, and then I'm gonna decide how tall 1565 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 4: a basket I can get, and I'm gonna go for it. 1566 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,360 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna get the fascia that goes on the 1567 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:43,799 Speaker 4: on the line. 1568 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,519 Speaker 5: Okay, the thing that covers the rail. 1569 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:49,800 Speaker 4: Oh wow, then it no longer looks like Alpa. Then 1570 01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,760 Speaker 4: it just looks like a gorgeous and organized home full 1571 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:53,360 Speaker 4: of bins. 1572 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:54,240 Speaker 1: What a dream. 1573 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 4: Wow, that's horrible. 1574 01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:03,920 Speaker 1: That was stunning, choked, you got emotional. I you know, 1575 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,559 Speaker 1: part of in my learning to love la. I didn't 1576 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,719 Speaker 1: even know they had container stores here. I said, that's 1577 01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,080 Speaker 1: that's only in New York City. 1578 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,719 Speaker 4: Wait, because they have them in the malls. 1579 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,080 Speaker 1: Even a container store to me is so suburban. 1580 01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, it's very like what you if you 1581 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 2: live in the suburbs, you get it in a you know, I. 1582 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,720 Speaker 1: Kind of assumed, like people know they have space, they 1583 01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:27,639 Speaker 1: don't care about containing right. 1584 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,559 Speaker 4: Contain yourself, by the way, how do you feel about 1585 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,280 Speaker 4: there is that still their tigeline? 1586 01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,800 Speaker 2: Oh? I think it is. It contain yourself used to 1587 01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 2: be at least I have. 1588 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:38,519 Speaker 4: I just went to Yeah. 1589 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:40,519 Speaker 2: I was in a yoga class the other day and 1590 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:44,760 Speaker 2: the teacher started opened with take some time to pull 1591 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:49,840 Speaker 2: yourself together, and I was like, it's like, how much 1592 01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:50,439 Speaker 2: time do you have? 1593 01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:50,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1594 01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, what did they do that? You? 1595 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:54,760 Speaker 4: Like? 1596 01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of assuming that you actually that you came 1597 01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 2: in and you're just this mess that's throwing like like 1598 01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,519 Speaker 2: binders are dropping every. 1599 01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,280 Speaker 1: Yes, they're editorializing too much. I like when they're like 1600 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,080 Speaker 1: leave you know, leave the day behind, let's be here now, 1601 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,000 Speaker 1: that I can deal with, but don't tell me. 1602 01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:17,120 Speaker 4: Sometimes horrible, I mean sometimes yeah, pull yourself together, because 1603 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,400 Speaker 4: I could tolerate the other teacher or whatever being like 1604 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 4: pull yourself together, like let's take a moment. We hear 1605 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 4: that expression, oh I gotta get my ship together again. 1606 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,559 Speaker 4: Then like asked for it, you know, like and then 1607 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:32,240 Speaker 4: I'm not Like the other teacher is not afraid, and 1608 01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,200 Speaker 4: they're like, pull yourself together, and they're like, actually, like 1609 01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,120 Speaker 4: we do give out so much of our energy, Like 1610 01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,360 Speaker 4: that's hard to pull it back, you know, just you know, 1611 01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,559 Speaker 4: bring bring it back, you know, call back your like 1612 01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,519 Speaker 4: do your energy hygiene. That would be cool. 1613 01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 2: But I have big news from our I have big 1614 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:48,240 Speaker 2: news from our producer. 1615 01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:48,680 Speaker 1: What is it? 1616 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,200 Speaker 2: The new tagline for the Container Store is welcome to 1617 01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:53,080 Speaker 2: the organization. 1618 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,120 Speaker 1: Huh. I'm not loving it. 1619 01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,880 Speaker 4: So that's almost like is the double They're kind of 1620 01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:05,760 Speaker 4: like like like this isn't like this is an organization. 1621 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,439 Speaker 4: Welcome to the organization. Yeah, it's almost like cult like, 1622 01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,439 Speaker 4: which I don't mind. That's where I almost think they are. 1623 01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,320 Speaker 4: They kind of trying to like again a little like 1624 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,479 Speaker 4: contain yourself for when it came out, and then this line, 1625 01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,439 Speaker 4: it feels like a little like not like they're trying 1626 01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:25,360 Speaker 4: to get be not straight totally right, totally welcome to 1627 01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:29,680 Speaker 4: the organization. Yeah, like they trying to like be like 1628 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,479 Speaker 4: we know we are, like we know you love us 1629 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,080 Speaker 4: and like make your craft rooms out of us. 1630 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,160 Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, like they're weird. 1631 01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:42,160 Speaker 2: They're very I have to say, like I when Jacqueline, 1632 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,160 Speaker 2: when your next special drops and you come back, we're 1633 01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,240 Speaker 2: getting into the containers because there's actually. 1634 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:49,720 Speaker 1: There's actually I mean they might even have a new 1635 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:50,519 Speaker 1: tagline by then. 1636 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll have you back every time 1637 01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:53,680 Speaker 2: they have. 1638 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,000 Speaker 4: Any I love that, Thank you having thanks. 1639 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:57,679 Speaker 1: So much for doing it. 1640 01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,120 Speaker 2: Jacqueline, this was an absolute we love you so much. 1641 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,000 Speaker 2: We're both huge fans. 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