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Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: It's nine am at summer camp.
Speaker 4: This morning at the tile well, and I fell.
Speaker 5: Asleep about fifty kids and teens from kindergarten to high
Speaker 5: school or getting ready to start the day, and in the.
Speaker 4: Money, I was tiled. But then it's excited when.
Speaker 5: The campers are carrying lunchboxes and walking into this brightly
Speaker 5: lit space where the walls and windows are covered in.
Speaker 3: Drawing, It's back to you.
Speaker 6: A handful of.
Speaker 5: Kids find a table and they quickly start a game
Speaker 5: of Oh no.
Speaker 7: You guys are cooked.
Speaker 3: Stop say that.
Speaker 5: Some of the kids are coloring quietly with the counselors,
Speaker 5: and a group of middle school girls are sitting in
Speaker 5: the corner sipping out of pink water bottles.
Speaker 7: The pea cheating off the straff.
Speaker 5: But the counselors are wearing these colorful name tags and
Speaker 5: red whistles around their necks. This is a community with
Speaker 5: a large immigrant population, so they're switching between English and Spanish.
Speaker 5: How at a glance, this looks like a typical summer camp,
Speaker 5: but for the kids here, this summer has been anything
Speaker 5: but normal. We're not going to tell you where this
Speaker 5: camp is or what anyone's name is in order to
Speaker 5: ensure their safety. And remember those red whistles around the
Speaker 5: councilor's next. They have a very specific purpose. They're the
Speaker 5: first line of defense against ice. If a federal agent
Speaker 5: shows up at camp, they'll blow the whistle. A counselor
Speaker 5: tells us that this is part of a carefully designed
Speaker 5: plan that volunteers and campers have been practicing like a
Speaker 5: fire drill.
Speaker 8: We have two outdoor monitors, we have door monitors. We
Speaker 8: have a campus monitor that's just keeping an eye out.
Speaker 8: We took down our signage, taped up paper on the walls.
Speaker 8: We're going to have some of the students draw on it.
Speaker 8: But that's an ice measure.
Speaker 5: These children and teens are some of the over four
Speaker 5: million US citizens under the age of eighteen who live
Speaker 5: with at least one undocumented parent, and for them Trump's
Speaker 5: mass deportation campaign.
Speaker 3: Feels like it's at the front door of their lives,
Speaker 3: even in safe havens like camp.
Speaker 6: This is a my drowning of a cat.
Speaker 7: So the camp was living in a neighborhood in a
Speaker 7: box because his family went to go on fine Field
Speaker 7: and they got lost. Even the bodda trying to find
Speaker 7: the family, the mom and dad, and he also got lost.
Speaker 7: He felt nervous, sad. He was crying because she didn't
Speaker 7: found his family.
Speaker 1: From Fudurrobibia. It's Latino USA. I'm Maria and your horsa
Speaker 1: today a summer vacation like no other. Summer came as
Speaker 1: ICE increasingly began to target undocumented people with no criminal
Speaker 1: record whatsoever. We wanted to know what summer break looks
Speaker 1: like for US citizen children of undocumented immigrant parents, the
Speaker 1: millions of American kids who live in fear that their
Speaker 1: own parents could be taken by ICE. We take you
Speaker 1: to two places. The camp that you just heard about.
Speaker 1: We're also going to introduce you to a teenage girl
Speaker 1: who's navigating her final summer before starting college. We're going
Speaker 1: to hear in their own words, what it's like to
Speaker 1: grow up in the backdrop of Trump's America in the
Speaker 1: summer of twenty twenty five. I'm going to pass the
Speaker 1: mic back to producer Ariel Goodman, who's going to take
Speaker 1: us now to meet the teenage girl, Sophie.
Speaker 3: No sorry, Sophie is practicing parallel parking.
Speaker 5: She's in this sprawling parking lot outside of a mall.
Speaker 3: She's getting ready for her driver's test.
Speaker 9: I'm I used to parking in parking lots, so that's
Speaker 9: what we're doing right now.
Speaker 6: We're practicing in a parking lot.
Speaker 5: This is a mile stone that she's been working towards
Speaker 5: for months, and it's one that's required sixty five hours
Speaker 5: of driving practice with her dad, Ba.
Speaker 10: Ba And as you can imagine, it hasn't always been pretty.
Speaker 11: Sofas pedro recomendo sofa yellow Movian.
Speaker 6: We get into fights, but he's a good teacher.
Speaker 9: Like we might scream at each other, but like at
Speaker 9: the end, I'm a better driver regardless.
Speaker 5: Sophie's dad is undocumented and he's been in the US
Speaker 5: longer than he ever lived in Mexico, where he was born.
Speaker 3: He was Sophie's age when he first came here, really close.
Speaker 5: He was working these long night shifts at a bakery,
Speaker 5: and he didn't have a license back then, but he
Speaker 5: needed to drive in order to get to work, so
Speaker 5: he would risk it.
Speaker 9: Me as an eighteen year old, I can't imagine like
Speaker 9: not being able to have your license where you're driving,
Speaker 9: Like that's really hard.
Speaker 6: Even with my permit, it still feels really scary.
Speaker 3: Sophie is a US citizen, she was born here.
Speaker 9: But still I could be a really good driver, but
Speaker 9: once that police car comes behind me, everything comes out
Speaker 9: the window. Because I'm with my dad or I'm with
Speaker 9: my mom, Like they could take my mom, they could
Speaker 9: take my dad, they could take me, because racial biases
Speaker 9: are all the same. You see me, you see my mom,
Speaker 9: you see my dad. The common denominator is that we're
Speaker 9: in Mexican, and like, I don't want to be detained,
Speaker 9: but knowing there's about possibility when you go outside, it's
Speaker 9: hard for me to enjoy my summer.
Speaker 5: Sophie is not alone in this feeling. In fact, the
Speaker 5: reason we're telling you her story is because of just
Speaker 5: how common this is. It's also the reason that we're
Speaker 5: not telling you what city were in, or the names
Speaker 5: of anyone else in her family come.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 5: Sophie's dad shares this sense of unease. It's one of
Speaker 5: the main reasons he's teaching his daughter to drive this summer.
Speaker 11: The then was mio Qui Juan.
Speaker 5: He and his wife are scared of being taken by ice,
Speaker 5: but their biggest concern is what would happen to their
Speaker 5: daughter's life if they were.
Speaker 3: Taken Sophie.
Speaker 11: Suela.
Speaker 5: Sophie's dad says that teaching her how to drive means
Speaker 5: that if the worst were to happen, he would at
Speaker 5: least know that she could get herself to college or
Speaker 5: drive herself to doctor's appointments.
Speaker 11: Maybe maibe in Sofia Hey practical.
Speaker 5: Sophie's dad has worked in construction for over a decade,
Speaker 5: and last year, the owner of the construction company where
Speaker 5: he works voted for Trump, and soon after the inauguration.
Speaker 11: Lost problem say especially.
Speaker 5: His boss called him. He told him it's best that
Speaker 5: you stay home. Once things quote calm down, we can
Speaker 5: get back to work.
Speaker 11: I didn't lose my job, it was just like the
Speaker 11: person I was working he know, feels safe for me.
Speaker 6: Well, you're no longer working with him, though he's not
Speaker 6: giving you pay leave like he fired you. Papa.
Speaker 11: If he's afraid that when somebody call the police, I
Speaker 11: could get the party. So he's he's not he's no
Speaker 11: one on his on his conscient He.
Speaker 6: Doesn't want to lose his most valuable worker, basically. But
Speaker 6: I find kind of.
Speaker 3: Suspicious.
Speaker 9: If I feel comfortable because my dad likes his boss,
Speaker 9: I guess, But me personally, I am giving him this.
Speaker 9: It's giving situationship like you're not getting any of the benefits.
Speaker 9: You're just doing his work.
Speaker 3: N he didn't value you.
Speaker 5: At this point, Sophie has practiced parallel parking over twenty times.
Speaker 5: Under the beating hot sun. She parks and gets out
Speaker 5: her log book from the glove compartment. It's filled with
Speaker 5: these carefully handwritten entries that log every time her and
Speaker 5: her dad have practice driving this summer. She logs her
Speaker 5: practice session and then she realizes she's reached the sixty
Speaker 5: five hours that she needs to get her license.
Speaker 6: Everything's good right now, life is good.
Speaker 9: Yeah, as completion for my sixty five hours of driving,
Speaker 9: We're going to the Mexican ice cream place.
Speaker 6: Yes, it's a tree for both of us. She built love.
Speaker 5: We drive to the ice cream store and walk in.
Speaker 5: Sophie and her dad are excited. They say that this
Speaker 5: shop is the best one in town.
Speaker 6: Well, I like their Bubblegum flavor ice cream.
Speaker 3: It's really good.
Speaker 6: My mom likes her on us.
Speaker 5: As we wait for our order, all of our eyes
Speaker 5: drift to the TV hanging in the back wall of
Speaker 5: the shop.
Speaker 3: It's a national newscast from Univision.
Speaker 5: A councilman from Los Angeles is describing this massive ice
Speaker 5: rate that just took place amidst the uprisings in LA
Speaker 5: over the summers, and so they're taking workers, the councilman says,
Speaker 5: people with families and deep roots in this country. They're
Speaker 5: entering churches without Warrantsrero's.
Speaker 7: Familias he is.
Speaker 3: Ada for young people like Sophie. This summer sort of
Speaker 3: looks like any other.
Speaker 5: It's filled with long, hot days, fun moments with friends,
Speaker 5: some boredom. But in the background of day to day
Speaker 5: life is this sense of profound and encroaching fear that
Speaker 5: a parent and life as they know it could get
Speaker 5: taken away from them at any moment.
Speaker 1: Coming up on Latino USA. As ice raids swept small
Speaker 1: towns and big cities across the country this summer, we
Speaker 1: ended up speaking with experts about the trauma that children
Speaker 1: experience when they're forced to live in a state of
Speaker 1: fear about their parents' safety. Stay with us, Yes, hey,
Speaker 1: we're back. Before the break, we heard from Sophie. She's
Speaker 1: a teenager navigating summer vacation amidst the fear of ice.
Speaker 1: And as the season went on, ice raids continued to intensify,
Speaker 1: sending shockwaves through many immigrant communities. Producer Ariel Goodman takes
Speaker 1: us back to the summer camp now that we visited
Speaker 1: at the top of the show, and we're going to
Speaker 1: try to understand how the kids there are making sense
Speaker 1: of it all.
Speaker 5: This summer's ice raids followed a similar playbook. Dramatic videos
Speaker 5: show federal agents detaining day laborers and home depot parking lots,
Speaker 5: and chasing farm workers across fields. Groups of masked officers
Speaker 5: swarming in and picking people up off the streets, shoving
Speaker 5: them into unmarked cars, Massive groups of armed agents descending
Speaker 5: on workplaces.
Speaker 6: Vice agents swarming all the gates.
Speaker 3: Here at the car wash, grabbing some of the workers
Speaker 3: as they dried cars.
Speaker 5: It didn't matter if it was a small town or
Speaker 5: a big city. Each raid started to feel more militarized
Speaker 5: than the previous one, and the ripple effects could be
Speaker 5: felt everywhere. Back at summer camp, the same one we visited.
Speaker 5: At the beginning of this piece, a high schooler is
Speaker 5: celebrating her birthday. The camp's director is checking in with
Speaker 5: the over fifty campers, whose ages run from kindergarten to
Speaker 5: high school, as if there.
Speaker 12: Is something that worried you today or the warriors this week.
Speaker 3: Is past.
Speaker 5: I'm afraid they'll take my parents away. It's a common
Speaker 5: feeling at this summer camp. According to the camp's director,
Speaker 5: whose name we're not going to use in order to
Speaker 5: protect him and everyone else.
Speaker 12: We know that in the town there has been high
Speaker 12: levels of anxiety by the presence of eyes in which
Speaker 12: lately has been showing as a militarized police. That image
Speaker 12: is really terrorizing because it's people who are coming equip
Speaker 12: with many weapons on them. And I think one of
Speaker 12: the losses is normality. Normality to go for chopping, normality,
Speaker 12: to put the kids to the school boss, normality used
Speaker 12: to walk as a family in the park, the normality
Speaker 12: to have fun, and the kids are feeling unsafe. Of course,
Speaker 12: they are not blind. They listen, they see they understand
Speaker 12: what is happening around.
Speaker 5: In order to understand what young people in the US
Speaker 5: are going through right now, I spoke to experts who
Speaker 5: study the effects of war on children. One of them
Speaker 5: was a cousin of mine, clinical child psychologist doctor Andrea
Speaker 5: Goodman Hansel, whose doctoral research focused on the kind of
Speaker 5: trauma that children carry when they survive things like a holocaust,
Speaker 5: a war, or a natural disaster.
Speaker 6: After a natural disaster, people can say to a child, Okay,
Speaker 6: the hurricane is over, it's not going to hit here again.
Speaker 7: You are safe.
Speaker 3: We're going to build from here.
Speaker 5: But children worried about their parents getting to have no
Speaker 5: sense of relief. She says that living in this state
Speaker 5: of unknowing produces a kind of chronic PTSD that leads
Speaker 5: kids to lose trust in the world itself. It was
Speaker 5: something that the dozens of kids that I spoke to
Speaker 5: for this piece were managing in different ways, but they
Speaker 5: were all reckoning with something similar, a loss of the
Speaker 5: idea that the world is a safe place.
Speaker 2: I just hope my parents don't like get taken away,
Speaker 2: or like they don't get caught something like that, because
Speaker 2: it's sad seeing how others get their parents taken away,
Speaker 2: and I like every crime for them.
Speaker 9: Mostly all the summer i've been home, I haven't really
Speaker 9: been going places. My family's like worried when they go
Speaker 9: outside because of ice could be anywhere.
Speaker 7: Sometimes my dad showed my mom videos stuff ice the
Speaker 7: police deporting people. Were scared that the police comes to
Speaker 7: our block and knock on all the doors and checked
Speaker 7: up their immigrants or not. One time I dreamed about
Speaker 7: the police coming in our house and they got our parents,
Speaker 7: and then all my cousins started crying. I jumped off
Speaker 7: my bed and I started running to my mom's room
Speaker 7: because I was scared, and then then I walked them up.
Speaker 6: And what's your message to other kids who are going.
Speaker 11: Through this.
Speaker 7: If they get like nervous, like, don't get shy and
Speaker 7: breathing and reale and continue what you was doing.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's see you do it.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Yes, hey, we're back. Before the break,
Speaker 1: we heard directly from some of the more than four
Speaker 1: million US citizen kids who are grappling with the looming
Speaker 1: terror of Trump's immigration policies. We're going to go back
Speaker 1: now to Sophie, who's the teenager that we last heard
Speaker 1: from when she was practicing for her driver's test, and
Speaker 1: our producer Ariel Goodman is going to take it from here.
Speaker 5: For Sophie, this was a summer of milestones, and it
Speaker 5: started with her high school graduation.
Speaker 9: I was scared of walking up on the stage. Those
Speaker 9: heels were really killing me. I was thinking, Wow, I'm
Speaker 9: finishing high school. I'm going out to college.
Speaker 5: Sophie's mom grew up in Mexico and this was a
Speaker 5: scene that she had only ever watched in movies from
Speaker 5: the US JOOI and Fendicula Mexico Quelos Studiente s at
Speaker 5: savan suvirete, the classic scene of smiling teenagers throwing their
Speaker 5: caps up into the air. So soon, Sophie will be
Speaker 5: the first member of her family to go to college,
Speaker 5: where she plans to study immigration law.
Speaker 3: This means a lot to Sophie's mom.
Speaker 5: When she first got here, she was undocumented, she was
Speaker 5: navigating a new country, she didn't speak the language, and
Speaker 5: she often felt like she couldn't give her daughter the
Speaker 5: support she needed at school. But on top of getting
Speaker 5: a high school diploma, Sophie also received a special recognition
Speaker 5: from the school district for being a bilingual student. She
Speaker 5: was being recognized for something that her mom taught her
Speaker 5: her Spanish.
Speaker 13: Medioma mil ingua la manela and let me be that
Speaker 13: la mandela, let me carrassan maybe the then tu san diaz,
Speaker 13: india frutos.
Speaker 9: I know she was ashamed of her Spanish when she
Speaker 9: came here, but now I'm like, wow, I am getting
Speaker 9: recognized that I can speak Spanish.
Speaker 5: A few days after graduation, Sophie's family and friends gathered
Speaker 5: to celebrate in a park and.
Speaker 9: We were pairing for the party and we were all
Speaker 9: setting up and like there's a lot of police activity
Speaker 9: because I heard like ambulances and stuff. I was like, ooh,
Speaker 9: I don't know what's happening there. And then we saw
Speaker 9: a band and I was like, whoa a band? And
Speaker 9: then I saw I was like, oh, white my heart
Speaker 9: saying because like how how myself was to react? I
Speaker 9: was scared, but like, thankfully it wasn't any Ice fans,
Speaker 9: but it's still kind of like made me remember, like
Speaker 9: you're not really safe even if you're celebrating the best moments.
Speaker 5: You know, throughout Sophie's summer, that fear hung at the
Speaker 5: edges of her everyday life.
Speaker 3: Like a distant ghost. I'm about go to college.
Speaker 9: I want to go to the pool. I want to
Speaker 9: hang out with my boyfriend. I want to hang out
Speaker 9: with my friends like I want to be a teenager.
Speaker 9: I want to get in trouble with my parents, not
Speaker 9: with the Department of Homeland Security, you know, or ice.
Speaker 5: But still, Sophie moved forward with her summer despite the fear.
Speaker 5: She celebrated her eighteenth birthday this then it was time
Speaker 5: for a long awaited moment.
Speaker 11: Okay, it's fuss.
Speaker 9: Right now, we're in my car or my dad's car,
Speaker 9: because we are going to my exam for driving.
Speaker 5: On a rainy morning, Sophie gripped the steering wheel and
Speaker 5: she drove with her parents to take her driver's license test.
Speaker 5: We got to the offices, Sophie registered with an instructor
Speaker 5: and then got into the car that despite her being
Speaker 5: kind of embarrassed about it, her parents were both filming
Speaker 5: the whole thing on their cell phones with huge smiles
Speaker 5: on their faces.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 5: She pulled out of the parking lot and her mom
Speaker 5: and dad waited, but when she came back, she was crying.
Speaker 3: She didn't pass.
Speaker 5: Okay, you're strong, her dad tells her. This isn't going
Speaker 5: to break you. You get three chances, it's gonna be fine.
Speaker 5: Sophie moved on with her summer, but in the background,
Speaker 5: the Trump administration's attacks on immigrants continued to intensify. Parents
Speaker 5: trying to drop off their kids at school watched as
Speaker 5: Ice agents handcuffed a woman just a block away from
Speaker 5: the playground. As the end of the summer approached, All
Speaker 5: of this was in the back of Sophie's mind as
Speaker 5: she prepared to leave home and go to college.
Speaker 9: It feels wrong because you assume, I guess a child,
Speaker 9: that your parents would protect you no matter what. But
Speaker 9: what happens when they can't protect you, and what happens
Speaker 9: when they leave you? How am I going to support
Speaker 9: myself if I don't know how to?
Speaker 5: Sophie took her driver's test again, and this time she
Speaker 5: passed and got her license. Then, as often happens during
Speaker 5: summer vacation, it was like you close your eyes and
Speaker 5: all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: Good morning.
Speaker 3: How is everybody exciting done? It's freshman drop off day
Speaker 3: at college.
Speaker 5: The dorm is filled with families taking pictures and accompanying
Speaker 5: slightly lost looking students as they move in Sophie's dad
Speaker 5: carries these huge boxes of shoes.
Speaker 3: And bedding up two flights of stairs.
Speaker 5: Her mom is carefully disinfecting the drawers of the dorm
Speaker 5: room bureau and neatly putting her clothes away. After they finish,
Speaker 5: Sophie and her mom hug and start to crack. Her
Speaker 5: dad is filming the whole thing and trying to get
Speaker 5: her to smile. You're gonna try your best and build
Speaker 5: something better for yourself, he says. Then he makes her
Speaker 5: send a message to someone who will also miss her,
Speaker 5: their dog Max.
Speaker 11: Okay, I love you.
Speaker 3: Back at camp, the kids are also getting ready to
Speaker 3: say goodbye.
Speaker 4: Tell us what we're doing right now? We're going to
Speaker 4: see The river is.
Speaker 2: At night.
Speaker 4: It might look scary, but to me, it kind of
Speaker 4: looks beautiful. And there's leaves, trees, grass, birds, animals in
Speaker 4: a river.
Speaker 5: The path that we're walking on is this tunnel of
Speaker 5: green forest. It's the kind of place where everything around
Speaker 5: us looks and feels alive.
Speaker 4: You're just did to see butterflies and birds.
Speaker 6: What do you think it's like to be them.
Speaker 2: Sad whore?
Speaker 7: Because what if like they lose their family member, or
Speaker 7: like what if their home gets chopped down because they
Speaker 7: live in trees.
Speaker 5: I spent this whole summer talking to young people, hearing
Speaker 5: different versions of a similar painful story. Their sense of home,
Speaker 5: of safety is getting taken away. It's like everyone forgot that.
Speaker 5: Just outside the frame of the news report or the
Speaker 5: ral video, there are children there and they're a part
Speaker 5: of this story too.
Speaker 7: Birds really need home, Like they make nests, and maybe
Speaker 7: like in the nest there's their baby, and people just
Speaker 7: like chopped down the trees or something.
Speaker 4: So I feel bad for the babies. They just got
Speaker 4: born and they could have seen the world and like
Speaker 4: other stuff.
Speaker 5: One hundred and eighty thousand people have been deported since
Speaker 5: Trump took office in January, and countless more have been
Speaker 5: taken to immigration detention camps, and this administration shows no
Speaker 5: signs of slowing down its mass deportation campaign.
Speaker 3: The quote Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 5: That passed by Congress in July has allocated an extraordinary
Speaker 5: seventy five billion dollars to ICE. That's more than the
Speaker 5: entire military buzzy for almost every country in the world.
Speaker 5: But still, in every conversation with kids, you can feel
Speaker 5: them blossoming. They're discovering the world and asserting their place
Speaker 5: within it. And if you listen closely, you can hear
Speaker 5: them imagining a future that they are a part of
Speaker 5: and inviting us all to help them build it.
Speaker 4: If you could say, like a message to the world,
Speaker 4: or would it be My message is to let it grow.
Speaker 7: Don't chop off the trees, because you never know when
Speaker 7: burn us are in there or birds are in there.
Speaker 1: This episode was produced by Ariel Goodman. It was edited
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