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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's me Joshum. For this week's select, I've

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Speaker 1: chosen our really great episode on Genghis Khan from back

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Speaker 1: in June of twenty eighteen. He's maybe one of the

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Speaker 1: more misunderstood characters in all of history. He's certainly one

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Speaker 1: of the most significant. I mean, how many individuals can

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Speaker 1: you trace a portion of the global population to? Not many,

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Speaker 1: I can assure you anyway. I hope you like this episode. Enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and

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Speaker 1: sitting across from me, it's Charles w. Chuckis Chinkis Bryant.

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Speaker 2: And sitting to your right is ghost producer Casper Nobody.

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Speaker 1: It was Ramsey, guest producer Ramsey. We've got like all

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Speaker 1: these new guest producers coming on, hot and heavy.

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Speaker 2: Jerry, she had to leave today and I think everyone's busy,

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Speaker 2: and so someone came in.

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Speaker 1: There's also a distinct lack of interest I picked up on.

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Speaker 2: Boy, remember the days when people used to jump at

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Speaker 2: a chance to sit in here.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Now they're like I've got to mail something.

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Speaker 2: I know. It used to be like, oh, my gosh,

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Speaker 2: Jerry's gone, let me do it, let me do it.

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Speaker 2: Then they grew up, Yeah, and then they grew up

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Speaker 2: in Now we have our little uh dunking bird to

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Speaker 1: Just going back and forth thinking about where its life

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Speaker 1: named ginghis Dingus Cohn, Do you pronounce it Dingis or

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Speaker 2: Are you being serious?

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Speaker 1: I know it's not Dingus, but I've also seen it

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Speaker 1: spelled in a way that would suggest you pronounced it Chingus.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, I think I have heard that, But we're.

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Speaker 1: Going to go with the unerual Genghis pronunciation.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, although his uh what was his birth name?

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Speaker 1: Timujin h doesn't even Ging's kind isn't even his real name, everybody,

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Speaker 1: so calm down. It's temujin or temujin.

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Speaker 2: Man. Did you see that statue?

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Speaker 1: I've seen it before. Yes, it's enormous.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen in person?

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Speaker 1: No, I've not yet been to Mongolia.

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Speaker 2: It's something else, man, Well one day though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's it's the world's biggest equestrian statue,

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Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive whether whether you're on a horse or not.

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Speaker 1: That's a big old statue, right, sure, I almost didn't

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Speaker 2: And it looks like I saw the wide shot, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't look like one of those. It's you know, surrounded

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Speaker 1: Oh good, looks like.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of land around it.

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Speaker 1: Well, Mongolia has a lot of land, a lot of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was an interesting one because depending on what

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Speaker 1: Butcher, yeah, I know, he's actually I think both well

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Speaker 1: Like like a lot of people i've seen him called

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Speaker 1: How would you like to do the ALIG version of

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Speaker 2: Ooh, yeah, all right, I'm not gonna examine that one

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Speaker 1: All right, so we're talking about Alig, I mean Genghis Khan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the reason we're still talking about him,

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Speaker 1: It took them four hundred years to amass that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then at the time, the population in the

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Speaker 1: It is astounding. And to put it in like true

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there their rule was not long lasting for

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Speaker 2: But this is all just set up fodder.

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Speaker 1: And this this kid this Temujin who would grow up

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Speaker 2: No, he was. Well, he was a middle brother, and

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Speaker 2: He was because apparently little brother was a much better

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Speaker 1: Right right, But I mean, in his defense, neither were

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Speaker 1: That's how you got your wife? Was you go kidnapper

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's how he came about. Well, his father kidnapped

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Speaker 1: Oh what's his father's name? Ya Sugi nice? And Yesugi

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of umlauts in there. I don't

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Speaker 1: Well, we're going to do a German style. So her

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Speaker 1: So she was kidnapped and this is the thing, like

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Speaker 1: Like I guess I'm eighteen now or something like. This

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Speaker 2: I think I was like, is he messing with me?

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Speaker 1: And this god supposedly gave him a vision that he

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Speaker 1: should become conqueror of the world. And so some people

438
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Speaker 1: have said, well, you know, if you opposed him, you

439
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: were opposing as god, and so there was no room

440
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: for that, and that's what made him so ferocious. Probably

441
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: the best explanation though, is that if some if like

442
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: one of their one hundred thousand horsemen, died, that was

443
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: a big deal, right, So to save their numbers, they

444
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: were better off not fighting. So by slaughtering an entire city,

445
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: that word about that gets around the area. So when

446
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: those guys show up to your city, there's a pretty

447
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: good chance that if they say surrender or die, you're

448
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: going to surrender. And so the Mongols didn't have to

449
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: sacrifice a single person.

450
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also get the idea. I mean, we're going

451
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 2: to talk about his major sieges, but he also had

452
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 2: a lot of smaller skirmishes with just kind of regional

453
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Speaker 2: tribes I think, and I got the idea that he

454
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Speaker 2: wouldn't send all his dudes in there. He would send

455
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Speaker 2: in a small amount of people as possible, right, because

456
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: they were so fierce and good at what they did,

457
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: he didn't need to. And then that also reduced the

458
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Speaker 2: chances of loss of life, I guess.

459
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Speaker 1: And then so the smallest units, those that one hundred

460
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Speaker 1: thousand man army boiled down to units as small as

461
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Speaker 1: ten people. Yeah, that was the individual unit was a

462
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: ten person cavalry group. Yeah, and yeah, you could just

463
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: say send five groups in or a thousand groups in

464
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Speaker 1: or whatever.

465
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. And he would also he would

466
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 2: also as he went he would pick up whatever weaponry

467
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 2: and tactics that other armies used and use those. Because

468
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Speaker 2: one thing that was pretty clear in reading this, Genghis

469
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Speaker 2: Khan did not like walls in walled cities.

470
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Speaker 1: I saw that too.

471
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: It ticked him off, especially for some reason.

472
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Speaker 1: Why would you do that?

473
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Speaker 2: No, so he you know, he got catapults and things

474
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Speaker 2: like that, and he would you would do some awful

475
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 2: things like with ladders and cattle bolts. He would fling

476
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: diseased animals like that wasn't I don't know, he wasn't

477
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: the only one to do that. But uh, some of

478
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: this seems like Lord though. The thing with the cats

479
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: and the birds.

480
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he told one city that he'd spare them if

481
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Speaker 1: they gave him a thousand cats and ten thousand birds.

482
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Speaker 1: And they gathered up their ten thousand birds, which I

483
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: guess they had in the thousand cats, and gave them

484
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Speaker 1: to him. And then he set the cats and the

485
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: birds on fire and flung them over the walls to

486
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Speaker 1: start fires in the city.

487
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: Well supposedly, kid Cotton, Oh got you to them and

488
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: set them on fire.

489
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Speaker 1: Well that's much better, but I'm sure the fire spreads.

490
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Speaker 1: It does seem apocryphal.

491
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I believe that.

492
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Speaker 1: Apocryphal. By the way, I just learned in like the

493
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: last year or so means that word made up.

494
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: You didn't know that's you never heard the word or no.

495
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: Plenty of times I just didn't realize. I always assumed

496
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Speaker 1: it meant like biblical and end of time. Oh, interesting,

497
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: because it's resemblance to apocalypse. I've got one more for you.

498
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: What's that?

499
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: I just this week learned what coude gras actually means.

500
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: I thought it meant like the cream of the crop,

501
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: the ultimate it's the death blow, like there's nothing after

502
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: it not because it's the best, right, because you just

503
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: had your head cut off.

504
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Coup de Grass. Yeah, yeah, the Final Blow.

505
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: Just learned that this week.

506
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I knew that. You know, A word

507
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: I used to always get wrong was dubious?

508
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: Did you think about pot?

509
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, can you score me some dubious?

510
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: Did you ever listen to Funk Dubious? They were like

511
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: this rap group from the nineties. Yeah, I remember they

512
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: were great. They were they All they want to do

513
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: is have fun in the midst of like the whole

514
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: gangster at Funks.

515
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: You remember that? Yeah, boy, they they just went away.

516
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: I haven't heard that name.

517
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: And I think they had like one album and that

518
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: was it.

519
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: What was their big hit?

520
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but but it had to do with pot.

521
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: Probably, so all right, So he's got Mongolia pretty well

522
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: taken care of it.

523
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: Wait, what did you think dubious meant? I made a

524
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: joke instead of letting your answer.

525
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: No, I don't I don't remember what I thought it meant.

526
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: But I think I just used to get it wrong.

527
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: We'll go back to Funk dvs.

528
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 2: So he's got Mongolia pretty well under control, and he

529
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: is insatiable though, Genghis Khan is. He starts looking around

530
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: and he's like, China is big.

531
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: You look pretty pretty pretty.

532
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: And I think even though they are wealthy and tough

533
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: and have a lot of dudes to fight, I think

534
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: I can take him because I'm Genghis Khan.

535
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: Which is a nutso thing to say at that time. Sure,

536
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: especially depending on which of the dynasties in China you

537
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: were talking about, because I think there were at least

538
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: three major ones.

539
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: Well, he's like all of them, let's just go one

540
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: at a time.

541
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's what he did.

542
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: That's exactly what he did.

543
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: He started with the and there's I'm sorry everybody, I'm

544
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: having trouble keeping up with all of the names, but

545
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: the ten Goods.

546
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Kingdom of ji Jia is how I would

547
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: probably pronounce.

548
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: It, right, dixiea chang No, yeah, thinking about that.

549
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: Jija, yeah, Jija and the Tanguts. And I think this

550
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: was sort of a test, his biggest test militarily at

551
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: the time.

552
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. He'd been fighting other tribes on the

553
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: steps to consolidate them and killing off the resistors. They

554
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: didn't have cities. The Tangats were the first ones that

555
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: he encountered that had like cities with walls that were

556
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: fortified that he needed to figure out how to lay

557
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: siege to.

558
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he did, to the point where the king

559
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: finally said, all right, you were my master. Here are

560
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: my troops, and here's the princess bride as well, right,

561
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: because I've heard you get around.

562
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Genghis Khan said, as you wish, that's right,

563
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: isn't that what he said?

564
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: I think?

565
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: So? Okay.

566
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: So the next he said, all right, how about this

567
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: other region, the Chin Kingdom, And he faced a seventy

568
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: man army and it said virtually wiped it out in this.

569
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: Article, so he's working his way up here now.

570
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

571
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: So he actually hit the Chins twice from what I understand,

572
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: and this How Stuff Works article says it happened in

573
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, so I'll bet the Chins were quite surprised

574
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: to see Genghis Khan show up five years ago.

575
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I wonder why. I mean, it says that he

576
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: came back and got a bunch of silk and gold

577
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: and got a bunch of engineers. I wonder if that

578
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: was the purpose of that mission. Maybe it was like, hey,

579
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: I don't think we properly rated them.

580
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because this was two years after the first one.

581
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: I guess that's all. It was that he wanted some

582
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: more silk and gold.

583
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: And again appropriating weapons like crossbows, catapults, and because it's China,

584
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: early versions of explosives.

585
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: Right, And so he's using all this stuff. He's not

586
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: married to just the hook poll in, just the saber.

587
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: He'll try out anything he sees works, right. Yeah, So

588
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: he's knocked out the first two dynasties, he's brought them

589
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: under him control. He now controls a significant portion of China,

590
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: all of the steps around Mongolia. Yeah, and he's got

591
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: his sets, his sights set on the biggest one of

592
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: the three, the Jin dynasty. Yes, and he actually got

593
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: in contact with them, or else they got in contact

594
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: with him first. But the emperor of the Jin dynasty,

595
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: this is an advanced civilization at this point, very wealthy,

596
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: maybe the most advanced and wealthy civilization on the planet

597
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: at the time, maybe. Ginghis Khan is a backwoods redneck

598
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: horse rider who just happened to get lucky a couple

599
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: of times, caught the other two dynasties slippin'. That's what

600
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: the emperor of the of the Jin dynasty is thinking.

601
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's thinking, you're going to be my slave.

602
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, you've done pretty good, kid. I'll tell

603
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: you what. I'll let you. I'll let you look over

604
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: my land in the south. You'll be my vassal. And

605
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: here here's the princess bride. I hear you like him.

606
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it did not work out that way.

607
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: No, it didn't. He actually successfully defeated the most advanced,

608
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: wealthiest society on the planet at the time, the Jinns.

609
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: Yep slaughtered thousands and thousands of people.

610
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: Well that's how you do it, I guess. And these

611
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: three campaigns, these are huge, enormous campaigns. China was extremely

612
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: populous at the time, and the number of people who died,

613
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: most of the people who died under ginghis Khan's rule

614
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: through war and conquest happened during these three China campaigns. Yeah,

615
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: about thirty about thirty million people died. And this is

616
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: over I mean ten years, I think, less than ten years.

617
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.

618
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: So it's nuts man.

619
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he wanted to continue going, I guess. West

620
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 2: twelve nineteen. He made his way through modern day Central

621
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: Asia like Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Iran, and the Shah Muhammad there

622
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: said he killed an ambassador that they had sent forward

623
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: from a trading caravan, and he had a big walled

624
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: city and he's like, I'm going to be fine. I'm

625
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: not sweating this guy, right, And he burned the city

626
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: down Genghis Khan did and including a thousand of the

627
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: soldiers who were in a mosque hiding out, killed about

628
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand people. But of course, like you said earlier,

629
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: he spared the skilled craftsmen and workers, right.

630
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: And this is the Karsam Quaras and didn't even practiced

631
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: this one, the Karism quarism. I think so empire, which

632
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: it's capital city that he sacked, is now in Uzbekistan.

633
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: But I've seen it called mostly like Afghanistan Iran for

634
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: the most part. This is the area it covered, Iran

635
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: is what I see it mostly compared to these days.

636
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and things are starting to get a little out

637
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: of hand at this point, and it's basically sort of

638
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: due to the fact that there was he went too far,

639
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 2: there were too many people, too much land. When you

640
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: control your I think that the guy who wrote that

641
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 2: article you sent said that they weren't producers of anything,

642
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: the Mongols, yeah, right, or tradesmen.

643
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: They were conquerors. That's it.

644
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's not like you got to diversify.

645
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: From what I understand, they didn't have a written language,

646
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: they didn't do anything. They just conquered people and took

647
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: over your land and then leeched off of you.

648
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is a good skill to get going. But

649
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: if that's all you can do, I think he likened

650
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: it to a shark needing to feed, like, eventually you

651
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: run out of lands to conquer, and then in the

652
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: interior it's such a huge corporation at this point it

653
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: gets unwieldy.

654
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: So Genghas kind of recognized this. At some point. I

655
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: saw that he had basically a chain range of heart

656
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: about agriculture, about walled cities, about a sedentary lifestyle, and

657
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: I think he mostly saw like, oh, you can make

658
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: way more wealth this way. So he turned from conquering

659
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: as much toward figuring out how to administer this area

660
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: that he conquered. Again, Eurasia is conquered, it's under this guy's.

661
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: This guy's had never never been united before and hasn't

662
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: been united since, even under Soviet Soviet rule. The Genghis

663
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: Khans Empire was bigger than that, right, and so he's

664
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: put it together and he's like, what do I do now?

665
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: And we'll talk about that after this message. How about that?

666
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: Yes?

667
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: Okay, chuck, So Genghis Khan has conquered your Asia and

668
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: said what now? What now Eurasia? What do you guys

669
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: want to do now? I'm done with killing? Not really?

670
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: Well he died, yeah, I guess that's right. Yeah, And

671
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 2: this is no one knows quite how he died. Still.

672
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: Some people say he had a fall from a horse

673
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: and was injured eventually died. Other people said it might

674
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: have been typhus. There are a few other theories floating

675
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: around out there, but.

676
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, like shot in the knee with an arrow is

677
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: my favorite. Yeah, which I guess just well, infection, I

678
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: would die from pain. Yeah.

679
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: It's interesting though. In August of twelve, twenty seven, when

680
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: he was on his deathbed, like one of the last

681
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 2: things he did was say, you remember the Tanguts, go

682
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: kill all of them.

683
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: That's what he did. I think they were the first

684
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: people he conquered, right, They were the Jija people.

685
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: Okay, the first people in China and when he went.

686
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: To go go attack the kar Zem Empire. Yeah, he

687
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: demanded that they send some troops as reinforcement, and they

688
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: said no. He defeated the Koora Zem and turned around

689
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: and went right over to Jija and was like, you

690
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: guys are your toast. You're in trouble. And that was

691
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: his last act as a living person.

692
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. He was succeeded by one of his son, Ogadai.

693
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: Who took that stuff all the way to Europe.

694
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: Oh. Yeah, he hit a bunch of sons, and I

695
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: guess we might as well talk about his lineage. It's

696
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: very famously the Genghis Khan. I mean, what is it

697
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 2: like one of every two hundred men, something like.

698
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: Zero point five percent of the total global population is

699
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: directly descended from him. That's amazing, It's amazing and gross.

700
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: That's a lot of people.

701
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was about sixty five ish when he died,

702
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: and no one knows where he's buried. No, because they

703
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 2: killed everyone on the way to the funeral.

704
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: That's one. And then also they rode over his grave

705
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: with horses. I looked up. Do you ever grown Cora? Uh?

706
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 2: Sure, every now and then.

707
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: It's great man. Yeah, like you can you can usually

708
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: tell who knows what they're talking about. Of the answers,

709
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: the multiply and frequently it's most of the people. It's

710
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: a very it's a good serious like, it's a good

711
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 1: place to get info that you should then go double check.

712
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I agree though, it's not like the old

713
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: days of what was the Terrible one years and years ago,

714
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: where you would ask a question, yeah, who questions? Yeah,

715
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: probably are you out here?

716
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that, Yeah there, And there are a

717
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: lot of platforms like this. This is a pretty good

718
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: it's not corrupt yet, how about that?

719
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Korra is pretty good.

720
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: Actually, so I want to encore this one's you can't

721
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: really look up. But this one guy two people like.

722
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: The question was why was ginghis Khan buried in secret?

723
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: I think? And two people said they didn't want his

724
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: grave robbed. Sense They wanted to make sure that the

725
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: transfer of power to his son was complete, so they

726
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: had to keep his death of secret. That makes sense,

727
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: YadA ya da. This one guy said, don't be idiots.

728
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: He was a little arrogant, but he said, like, don't

729
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: be idiots. Ginghis Khan was a shamanistic person, religiously fervent.

730
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 1: He would have gone one of two ways. They would

731
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: have cremated him and just spread his ashes, or they

732
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: would have done a sky burial. Remember we talked about

733
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: those before, where they just left him on the mountain

734
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: side for the vultures to pick over. They it wouldn't

735
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: have buried him with grave goods. He would have been

736
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: embarrassed with that. So he's the only person I saw

737
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: say something like that. But it gave me pause. It

738
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: made me wonder if the hidden grave is just, you know,

739
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: just more lore about Genghis Khan and off the mark.

740
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, well, his legacy looms large still, not only

741
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: in his his lineage, from his loins.

742
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: His overactive loin just leeching out goop.

743
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 2: But depending on who you're talking to, well, he definitely

744
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 2: did some things. He opened up trade right the west,

745
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: got things like noodles and tea and playing cards. He

746
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 2: perhaps founded the very first version of what would later

747
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: be a post office, which is what was it called

748
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: the yam Yeah, like a pony Express. Yeah, like what

749
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: different stations the pony Express, Yeah, like straight.

750
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: Up, but like six hundred years before the Pony Express.

751
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. But depending on who you're talking to. Some

752
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: people lay almost all of modern warfare at his feet, Yeah,

753
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: which is sort of interesting because you can sort of

754
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: draw a line back to his tactics that eventually would

755
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: become the Crusades or the slaughtering of the Aztecs and

756
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: the Incas. Yeah, so they would learn from him and

757
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: then do that.

758
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 1: Right, because it was more of that cultural conveyor belt. Right.

759
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: So they say that he conquered the Karzam Empire, came

760
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: in contact with Islam, and taught them ferocity, which the

761
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: Europeans learned during the Crusade, and they took that ferocity

762
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: back to Europe and then eventually to the New World,

763
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: which they used on the Native Americans they found there.

764
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: And somebody said, no, the Europeans were already well versed

765
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: in ferocity and brutality and warfare. They didn't need to

766
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: learn it from Gingis Khan. That doesn't mean that's wrong, right,

767
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: But it's the suggestion that the Europeans were naive to

768
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: brutality and warfare is incorrect.

769
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: Well, it's complete bs And the author of that article

770
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 2: also so makes a good point, and like you can't

771
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: you can't look and judge him by today's lens. He

772
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: wasn't any more brutal than anyone else back then.

773
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: It was just the number.

774
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just did it better that to me though.

775
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: So I guess then maybe my problem is is like

776
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: celebrating people who've killed tons of people. Yeah, like that's

777
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: what I have a problem at at base sure, because

778
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: it's a great man, great man history. Yeah, it bugs me.

779
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: It bugs me too. So we didn't come. We didn't

780
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: come across the way, did we.

781
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: So, but just just just by carrying on the tradition

782
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: of talking about this guy, and you know, there's you

783
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: definitely keep his little flame burning.

784
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: Well, and there's a what one hundred and fifty foot

785
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: statue of him. Yeah, like he's still very much revered.

786
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about it that there. Like, if you

787
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: were in Mongolia right now, you're probably pretty mad at

788
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: me and Chuck apologies for that. We're really it's the

789
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: great man history thing we have a problem with. But Mongolia,

790
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: he is known as the founder of Mongolia. Yeah, the

791
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: great basically the great, the greatest leader Mongolia has ever known,

792
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: and possibly the world if you're a Mongolian. And during

793
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: that during the Soviet occupation of Mongolia, you were not

794
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: allowed to talk about him.

795
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they like took him out of history books.

796
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they were trying to stamp out any kind

797
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: of nationalism in Mongolia at the time. So the moment

798
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: the Soviets left the Soviet Union dissolved, they were like

799
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: Ginghis Khan, Gigis Khan, ginghis Khan. Yeah, they built a

800
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: statue of him, they named an airport after him, they

801
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: put him on currency. So he's definitely revered over there.

802
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: But I think that the art that the author of

803
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: the article, I think his name is Frank mclinn almost

804
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: positive Ale, Yeah, it's great. Frank mclinn. He wrote this

805
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: wonderful article called the Brutal Brilliance of Ginghis Khan. But

806
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: he points out, like, whatever you think of the guy,

807
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: even if he was the same his contemporaries, and it

808
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: still seems alien to you. Yeah, Like think about your

809
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: own leaders. Your own leaders send people to die on

810
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: the battlefield too, Yeah, if they're revered as.

811
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 2: Well, sure for causes that aren't not noble.

812
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: Right. So the the the point is is, I guess,

813
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: don't hate on Genghis Khan, hate the game, not the player, right,

814
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: I guess. So, wow, boy, this guy took a deep

815
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: left turn, didn't it.

816
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 2: Well, it is interesting.

817
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can talk about this dude forever.

818
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. He also makes the point too that the Mongols

819
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 2: were what he called culturally unbalanced. So he's like, you know,

820
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: at least the Europeans, while they were slaughtering and killing,

821
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 2: were giving us the divine comedy and Carmena Barana and

822
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: these great cathedrals and operas, whereas the Mongols were just

823
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 2: barbarian raiders and butchers.

824
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: All slaughter, no substance.

825
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 2: That's a T shirt. Yeah, very famous. In the movies,

826
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: Kingis Khan was played twice, once by John Wayne believe

827
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: it or not, in the Conqueror, and then Omar Shariff. Okay,

828
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: he said Egyptian also not close to Mongolian. Right, I

829
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: don't know if it's better worse than John Wayne. It's

830
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: probably the same.

831
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: I think it's worse or no better better.

832
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 2: Well, now it'll be Hugh Jackman. Now. I think hollywoods

833
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: changed somewhat, But like five years ago they would have

834
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: been like, what about Jason Momoa.

835
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: Matt Damon two mustaches on him, But they.

836
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: Just picked Momoa because like he looks tough. Who's he

837
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: and he looks sort of ethnic. He's a guy that

838
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 2: plays aquaman and is on a very versatile of thrones. Probably,

839
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: but and I even looked up Mongolian American actors to

840
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: see if there was anyone out there, uh huh who

841
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: they could tap into. And I don't think there are

842
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: a lot of them. Oh, okay, probably have to be

843
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: some good unknown So.

844
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: Speaking of looking like a Mongolian, Okay, got one last thing,

845
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: are you done?

846
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: I'm done.

847
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: The Mongolians were really really good at propaganda and one

848
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: of the ways that they showed this was in Iran

849
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: in modern day Iran koorism Man Empire, when they subjugated it.

850
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: One of the things they did that they said, we

851
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: are we don't have an alphabet, we don't write things down,

852
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: but you guys do, and we want to put that

853
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: to good use. You have great artists. We want you

854
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: to do a history of the Mongols. And the scribe said, sure,

855
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: we'll do that, and we want you to do a

856
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: history of the world. All the great leaders in the world,

857
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: all the great civilizations in the world. We want you

858
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: to do those. So they did. They built this. They

859
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: wrote this huge compendium, a universal History of the World,

860
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: but the Mongols had them illustrate, like illuminate the text,

861
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: and they had them whenever they drew a leader or

862
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: a conqueror or an army, they drew them as Mongols.

863
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: Oh.

864
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: Interesting, So they insinuated themselves into history as basically the

865
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: progenitors of all greatness and thus justified the subjugation of

866
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: this area.

867
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: Wow.

868
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: And they did it through propaganda. They had like all

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Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting?

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Speaker 2: Would do something so selfish. On the day of the burial,

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Speaker 2: Because people are buried with something valuable, they're organs and

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Speaker 1: That is fantastic. Man, what a cool guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Thanks a lot, Kate, I definitely had not heard

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