1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Hike and everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast. Du wuishing and hoping and thinking 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: and praying. Addition, as we look back at a frustrating 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: afternoon in Oakland that saw the Bengals fall to oh 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: and ten with a seven point loss to the Raiders. 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, locker room comments from 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: players and coaches, and Dave Lapp them will join me 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: for postgame analysis. Plus, in this week's fun Facts Conversation, 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: we'll meet the person under the pads as I'll talk 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: to veteran offensive lineman John Jerry. 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The common phrase the best thing since sliced bread, 17 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: as a way of hyping something new, supposedly started back 18 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: in the nineteen thirties as an advertising slogan for wonder Bread, 19 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: the first commercial manufacturer of pre wrapped pre sliced bread. 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: But I'm a big toast in the morning guy, and 21 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: I like to slice mine a little thicker, especially if 22 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: it's a loaf of bread from the geniuses at Blue 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: Oven Bakery. Trust me a thick slice of their seedym 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: Ex Seed or bad Boy, two of my favorite Blue 25 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: Oven breads make for a very tasty breakfast. Now let's 26 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: get to the game. Ryan Finley's second NFL start did 27 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: not get off to a good start as he coughed 28 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: up the pig on Cincinnati's fourth play from scrimmage. Finley 29 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: ready for the shotgun snap, he catches the ball he's 30 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: back to throw, forced to scramble, the ball gets knocked 31 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: out from behind. It is loose at the twenty nine 32 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: and the Raiders recover. The fumble is forced by Raiders 33 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: rookie Max Crosby. Remember the name. The Raiders quickly drove 34 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: into the red zone, but the Bengals defense answered with 35 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: a huge play first and ten of the Cincinnati seventeen. 36 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: They give it to Jacobs again, gaping hole right up 37 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. He loses the ball. It's 38 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: scooped up by the Bengals and vigil and Vigil makes 39 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: it out to the fifteen yard line as the Bengals 40 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: punched it away from Jacobs and get the ball right 41 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: back in the red zone. Josh Tupo forced the fumble 42 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: and the Bengals immediately went on a twelve play eighty 43 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: five yard drive to take the lead. Finley under center 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: Mixon waiting back at the eleven hands on knees, toss 45 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: sweep to the right, and Joe Mixon spins around, stays 46 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: on the team running toward the air zone. Touchdown Bengals 47 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: as Joe Mixon comes home to the bay and runs 48 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: it in for the first time this season. It's the 49 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: first rushing touchdown by somebody other than Andy Dalton, and 50 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: it was all him that mark just the second time 51 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: this year that the Bengals have had a seven nothing lead. 52 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: That was also the case in Baltimore, when Brandon Wilson 53 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown. The Bengals have 54 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: never led by more than seven points this season, and 55 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: their seven point lead in Oakland disappeared in the second quarter. 56 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: Offset I behind Derek Carr on third down and one 57 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: at the Cincinnati two car under center fakes a handoff, 58 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: looks to throw, bobs it back to the left and 59 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: it's caught by Foster Moreau. Nobody within ten yards as 60 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: he makes the catch for the Raiders touchdown. Car completed 61 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: his first fourteen passes and one play after he finally 62 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: threw an incompletion, the sixth year quarterback used his legs 63 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: to give the Raiders the lead third down and goal 64 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: from the three. Car waiting for a shotgun snap, he retreats, 65 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: He looks to throw. Now he will try to take 66 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: off and run, and Derek Carr leaps toward the end 67 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: zone and makes it in for Raiders touchdown. With eight 68 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: seconds left and a half. Randy Bullock was wide left 69 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: on a fifty three yard field goal try and the 70 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: Raiders had a fourteen seven lead at the break. The 71 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: Bengals offense was sputtering, but on the Raiders first drive 72 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: of the third quarter, the defense got another takeaway one 73 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: deep safety in the middle of the field. Car back 74 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: to throw chucks from the middle and it's picked off 75 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: by Jesse Bates, his second in his many weeks, and 76 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: the Bengals will take over at the forty six yard 77 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: line of Oakland. How about Jesse Bates reading that thing 78 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: out and going to the middle of the football field. 79 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: Jesse Bates says, I got you. Bates interception led to 80 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: a bullet field goal that made it fourteen to ten. 81 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: Here's Jesse on the play of the Bengals defense. It 82 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: just shows that, I mean, a lot of guys aren't 83 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: giving up. A lot of guys are still feed into 84 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: what Zach is telling us, and it's about us. There's 85 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people that says we're the worst defense 86 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: in the league, and then we come out and, you know, 87 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: show what we can do. So UM sucks that we're 88 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: not winning. UM, but it is, you know, it's a 89 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: good fling. You see that we're playing some good defense. 90 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: It was a four point game going to the fourth quarter, 91 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: and even after the Raiders kicked a field goal, the 92 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: Bengals were within one score. Cincinnati had three possessions in 93 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: that final quarter, but couldn't figure out a way to 94 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: give Finlay max protection. Finley back to throw, hit from 95 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: behind and sacked John Jerry's man. Max Crosby beats him 96 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: again and sacks Ryan Finlay. Bengals snap it quickly, Finlay 97 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: in trouble and Crosby will sack Ryan Finley on Q 98 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: his third sack of the game, takes the shotgun snap, 99 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: retreats to the twelve. He's in trouble and he gets sacked. 100 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: All four ball comes out. The Bengals recover at the ten. 101 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: Max Crosby strikes again, fourth sack of the day. Four 102 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: sacks for fourth round draft pick Max Crosby three in 103 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, Despite that, the Bengals had a golden 104 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: opportunity down by seven with roughly five minutes to go. 105 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: On third and four at the Oakland twenty seven, Finley 106 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: threw a pass that would have given Cincinnati a first 107 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: down near the red zone, but it was flat out 108 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: dropped by Giovanni Bernard that forced the Bengals to go 109 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: for it. On fourth and four. Ericson, Eiffert and Boyd 110 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: go out to the left, Willis and Bernard out to 111 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: the right. It's an empty backfield with five wide shotgun snap. 112 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: Finley flinging it deep for Willis and it is incomplete 113 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: at the two yard line. There were two defenders nearby. 114 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: The Bengals went for the deep ball and it's incomplete 115 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: for Damian Willis. Tyler Boyd and Tyler Eiffert were both 116 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: open for a possible first down on the play, but 117 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: Finley elected to go deep and the Bengals never threatened again. 118 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: Finley finished thirteen for thirty one for one hundred and 119 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: fifteen yards, no touchdowns, one interception, and a passer rating 120 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: of thirty nine point zero. He was sacked five times, 121 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: dropping the Bengals net passing yardage total to seventy three. 122 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd, the Bengals best healthy receiver, was targeted three 123 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: times and had one catch for zero yards, but he 124 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: expressed sympathy for the rookie quarterback. Oh man, it's tough, 125 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: you know, because the quarterback position is the hardest position 126 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: in the field. You know, he got a new checks, 127 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: he got a new Uh when when when a check 128 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: in uh protection, you gotta you gotta know everything, you know, 129 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: song for me to talk about it, it's really hard, 130 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, because again, the op position is tough, you know, 131 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: and uh I feeled out he would be he would 132 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: get better each and every week. You know, just this 133 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: week was uh down for all of us, you know, 134 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: not just him, but um, we definitely gotta make a 135 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: lot more plays to win games. The final score Oakland seventeen, 136 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: Cincinnati ten. The Bengals are oh and ten, matching the 137 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three team for the worst start Enfranchise history. 138 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: Going back to last year, they've dropped twelve in a 139 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: row and that's the longest losing streak in team history. 140 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: Here are alex ericson n C j Uzama were fighting, um, 141 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: fighting for a pride or just fighting for that first win, 142 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: and um, you know, it's the battle this up to 143 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: this part, it's been tough and obviously we haven't had 144 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: much go our way and just haven't been able to 145 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: find a way to win. And so we're just fighting 146 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: and try to find that win. I you know, it's 147 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: been it's been a challenge everything emotionally, physically. Um, you know, 148 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: it's it's hard because we put a lot into it 149 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: and we we're doing everything we can to win, and um, 150 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're just not there yet. Throughout it is 151 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: we're not getting it done and we're not making those 152 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: players and we're not doing what it takes to win. 153 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: And no fingers should be pointed because no one players 154 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: in this locker room. And they know that. I mean 155 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: we know that no one player is playing. You know, 156 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: we're having one play here, one play there, and it's 157 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: each of us. So it's more of a we need 158 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: to look ourselves in the mirror and figure out, you know, 159 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: how we can correct it, how we can just get 160 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: our crap together, like our personal things that we need 161 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: to get together and you know, come together as a 162 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: team and get the job done. There were a couple 163 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: of bright spots. The defense played well enough to win, 164 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: and for the second straight week, the running game was outstanding. 165 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon finished with eighty six yards on fifteen carries, 166 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: and the Bengals finished with a season high one hundred 167 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: and seventy three rushing yards. I talked to Mixing after 168 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: the game. Team ran for more than one hundred and 169 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: seventy today, Joe after one fifty something last week, do 170 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: you feel like you've got that part of the game 171 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: ironed out? Honestly enough? For real, it wasn't enough. I 172 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: should have definitely had more, But I mean it is 173 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: what it is. We figure we got to figure it 174 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: out and gotta get better. Like I said, it wasn't 175 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: enough for us to win a game. You had eighty six, 176 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: You scored your first rushing time each down of the year. 177 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: You did it close to home. Describe that feeling. Uh, 178 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: it was a feeling like no other, you know what 179 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Uh, blessed to be in this position, to 180 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: play in front of the home crowd and um, you know, 181 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: try to display you know what I've been used to doing, 182 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: and uh that's bawling up. But came a little short, 183 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we lost. So you know, it's 184 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: not really a good feeling, you know what I'm saying, 185 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: But it is what it is. Guys jumped ahead seven nothing. 186 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: It was a tight game throughout. Did you have that 187 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: feeling that, man, if we could just make one play, 188 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: this is the this is the day we pull it 189 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: out easily for sure. I mean they they pulled it out. Um, 190 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: you know, it's frustrating honestly about what happened, but they 191 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: pulled it out. And uh, we definitely left left some 192 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: plays out there that I wish we could take back. 193 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: But it is what it is. Gotta get better. Sadly, 194 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: Audent Tate's injury cast a Paul over the locker room. 195 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure that one is bothering everybody in this room. No, 196 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: it definitely is. Tay made a huge conversion. Um, I 197 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: probably was one of the biggest players at the game, 198 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: and that kept us alive, and uh, you know, it's 199 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: just sucks, you know, to see a player go down, 200 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: especially him, and uh, you know, a player we needed. 201 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: But I mean we fell short and I wish we 202 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: could get it Beck. So I was Ryan's second start 203 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: with some growing pains. I guess that's to be expected. 204 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: What would you what do you say to him at 205 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: this point? Um, I mean I can't leave it up 206 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: to him, you know what I'm saying. To win the games. 207 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: We definitely had an opportunity to win. But I mean 208 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: it's the same thing every week, falling short, and uh, 209 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: it's frustrating, but I just gotta get better. You know, 210 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: wasn't enough to get it done. Um, you know it 211 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: sucks to say. Um, I mean honestly, I really don't 212 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: know what to say because, um, you know everybody has 213 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: been the same thing every week, you know what I'm saying. 214 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: So it's definitely frustrating. Uh, everybody know, we gotta get better, 215 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: and you know, the sex to be in this position, 216 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: but you got to overcome it and you gotta get better. 217 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: Following up on my question for Joe about autumn, Tate, 218 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: the Bengals wide receiver, was able to travel home with 219 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: the Bengals after the game and was in the locker 220 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: room on Monday, no longer wearing a neck brace. According 221 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: to Zach Taylor, Tate has a cervical strain and is 222 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: in concussion protocol. Speaking of Zach, he spent three and 223 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: a half minutes with Lap after the game. This is 224 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: the fifth game that's been decided by a touchdown and 225 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: less than unfortunately, none have gone your way with the Raiders, 226 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: to flip side of it's their seventh and they've won 227 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: six of them. So you know, they're they're tough to 228 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: beat down the stretch, particularly at home. They are. You know, 229 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: we just we got to do more to generate a 230 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: little more offensive on the fourth quarter and give ourself 231 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: a chance because our defense came out in the second 232 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: half and hold them to three and really did a 233 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: lot of things we're asked them to do. And so 234 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: it's frustrating that we couldn't get a John. Every coach 235 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: on this point team, every player on this team kept 236 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: fighting through that fourth quarter, and boyd we're gonna have done. 237 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: It just wasn't enough. Max Crosby gets four quarterback sacks 238 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: and that's uh, I mean, he's definitely. He's definitely interesting 239 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: to watch with his hands and everything. But I know 240 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: that has to be frustrating where you know, a guy 241 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: like that picks up four quarterback sacks. Yeah, it is. 242 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: You know, we got to do a better job up 243 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: front and and uh, we got to help those guys, 244 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, as a play caller, and that's frustrating to 245 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: see that. You get your running game going to the 246 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: tune of over one hundred and seventy yards. You know, 247 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon had over eighty of him on fifteen carries. 248 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: So it continues, the running game continues to arrow up 249 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: for you. Is that a good sign? Obviously? It is. 250 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's I think we're training in the way 251 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: that you want to play football defense, swarm into the 252 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: ball and create some turnovers and on offense, establishing the 253 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: run game. It's just we're gonna do a better job 254 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: with our play actions and our nakeds when we get 255 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: him called executing them and creating some explosives that way. 256 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: But overall, I think we're turning in the right direction 257 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: there in the run game. Odd and Tate, I don't 258 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: know how much you can you can fill us in, 259 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: but that's as a as a player. I mean, I 260 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: always hated when you know, a cart came out there 261 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: and took somebody off the football field, and so you know, 262 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: Auden was in that in that situation. But it looked 263 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: like he was moving everything, which was a good sign. 264 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: And I know you caution is the name of the game. 265 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: You want to error on the side of caution. Can 266 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: you give us any update on audin take It sounds like, um, 267 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: he's left the hospital and we'll see if we get 268 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: him back there to night in Cincinnati. But that's encouraging 269 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: to see. But I don't have a lot of information 270 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: outside of that, but he might be able to travel back. Well, 271 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: I'll find out. I'm kind of just getting first word 272 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: of that, but hopefully that's true. So your defense comes 273 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: in to Oakland. They'd given up twelve sacks on the season, 274 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: and the defense gets three. They've given up eight turnovers. 275 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: Fourth view us in the NFL. Your defense gets too. 276 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: You know, defense holds him to seventeen points. I mean defensively, 277 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: the overall effort you have to be pretty pleased with. 278 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: I was. I thought, especially in the second half, is 279 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: very encouraging. I know, the quarterback got off to a 280 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: hot start there to start the game, but to hold 281 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: him the three points in the second half on the road, 282 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: that's that's gonna give us a chance to win. And 283 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: so that was encouraging to see from them. We talked 284 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: to Ryan a little bit and obviously he's pretty disappointed 285 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: and you know, didn't didn't offer a whole lot, and 286 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: understandably so was Paul Gunther. Did he do anything differently, 287 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: did he increase his blitzch percentage, is loading the box 288 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: percentage or anything like that, or he just did he 289 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: do what Paul Gunther does. No, it was pretty much 290 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: the defense we expected to see, and we just have 291 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: to bet a job executing. That's that's what it boils 292 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: down to, getting plays made when they're there. It is, Yeah, 293 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: that's that's frustrating when it doesn't happen. So overall, you know, Ryan, 294 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: like I said, he's he's pretty uh not not pleased 295 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: with his performance. I guess you're you always hope to have, 296 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, the first first game be a building block 297 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: and build from there. Obviously this one didn't turn out 298 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: like anybody had hoped. No, it was hard. You know, 299 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: it was a game we came in expecting to win. 300 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: And we didn't get it done. And so that's a 301 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: frustrating fight home. Before we got on the plane, Lap 302 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: and I spent a few minutes discussing what happened. The 303 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: Bengals ran for more than one hundred and seventy yards 304 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: in this game, but when you factor in sacks, they 305 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: had seventy three yards in the passing game. Obviously that's 306 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: not going to get the job done. It's not, particularly 307 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: in today's NFL. There's no question about it. I mean, 308 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, some of the yards rushing were scrambles by 309 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: Ryan Finley, once up the gut for over twenty yards 310 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: when he caught them in man coverage and found a lane. 311 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: And one time on a you know, a naked came 312 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: outside the pocket and took it a field for over 313 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: twenty yards. But still with that said, Joe mix in 314 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: fifteen carries over eighty yards. I think the adjustment that 315 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: they've made in the running game, where they have some 316 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: gap plays you know they'll they'll pin and pull, you know, 317 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: penel down lineman and pull others, is paying dividends. And 318 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: you know they're mixing it in now with the inside 319 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: outside zone stuff. So I think defenses are a little 320 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: bit off balanced with it, and they're they're steadily building 321 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: on the on the running game, but the passing game 322 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: is going in the opposite direction. So I mean, really, 323 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: you hold a team to seventeen points in the road defensively, 324 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: special teams did their job. Running game, I mean it 325 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: boiled down to the Bengals did not get enough in 326 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: the air. They didn't make enough plays to win this 327 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: football game. And it's basically lack of execution on their 328 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: side as much as anything. We might have some fans 329 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: at Miami University or Ohio University watching this segment. They 330 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: remember Max Crosby from Eastern Michigan. He used to terrorize 331 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: the mac. He had twenty sacks over the last two seasons. 332 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: It felt like he had twenty today. Four sacks from 333 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: Max Crosby. Shouldn't happen, flat out period, shouldn't happen. I mean, 334 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, at some point, if if you have a 335 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: guy that's given you that kind of trouble, you're gonna 336 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: have to give him some give a tackle, some edge, 337 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: some help with a you know you have an edge Russia. 338 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: That's that's winning, not to chip and things like that. 339 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: Slide the line, do some things. But Max, he should 340 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: not just beat offensive linement for four quarterback sacks. I 341 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: don't care what the situation is, you know that that's unacceptable. 342 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: And that was, you know, one of the reasons why 343 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: the Bengal struggled so much in the throwing the football. 344 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: I mean he was Ryan Finley was under dressed more 345 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: than he should have been. To be quite honest, it's 346 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: getting noisy here at the College cum Let's quickly touch 347 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: on the Bengals defense. Josh Tupo force to fumble that 348 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: was recovered by Nick Vigil. Jesse Bates had an interception 349 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: for the second consecutive week. They had a lot of 350 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: tackles for loss and three sacks in this game. It 351 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: was one of the better performances the defense has had 352 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: this year, right, and when you look at it, I 353 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: mean the Raiders they'd only given up twelve sacks, fourth 354 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: fewerist in the NFL. The Bengals got three. They'd they'd 355 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: only given up eight turnovers, again top five in the NFL. 356 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: The Bengals got two in this football game. So defensively, 357 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: there was some improvement. I thought there was some movement 358 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: upfront with the defensive line that was causing the mammoth 359 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: offensive line of the Raiders, you know, problems. They're behemous. 360 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: They're six six, three thirty five plus on an average basis, 361 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: and you can't just stand there and take them on. 362 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: And the Bengals did a good job of hitting some 363 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: gaps and and moving some people, moving some people around, 364 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: and they did. They accumulated, you know, overhandful of tackles 365 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: for lost to go with three quarterback sacks. If the 366 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: season ended today, the Oakland Raiders would be a playoff 367 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: team after going four and twelve a year ago. Perhaps 368 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: the Bengals can have a turnaround like that next year, 369 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: but this year they are o and ten in the 370 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: reason during that situation the seventh time this year the 371 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: Raiders have had a game decided by a touchdown unless 372 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: they won six of them by eight points. Unless they 373 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: won six. The Bengals have been in that situation five times, 374 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: oh for five. Get to win some close ones to 375 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: be competitive in the National Football League. Up next a 376 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: home game against the Steelers in their first game after 377 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: the Mason Rudolph Miles Garrett incident. The Steelers quarterback has 378 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: his helmet back, but he won't have his Pro Bowl center. 379 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: Since more Case Pouncey was suspended for three games for 380 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: punching and kicking Garrett, the Steelers have beaten the Bengals 381 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: nine straight times. Now time for this week's fund Facts interview, 382 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: where we get to know the person under the pads. 383 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: This week, it's a thirty three year old offensive lineman 384 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: who is lighted to be back in the NFL after 385 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: being out of football last year. Time for some fun 386 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: facts with offensive lineman John Jerry from Batesville, Mississippi, originally 387 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: population approximately seven thousand, five hundred. What's a kid do 388 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: for fun? Growing up in Batesville? You play football. I 389 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: mean that's one thing about it. When Friday night lights 390 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: going on in my hometown, everybody shut down, and your 391 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: high school is a powerhouse. When you were there, they 392 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: had a winning streak of eighty nine games, the third 393 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: longest in high school football history. Right yeah, yeah, you know, 394 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: I think I wanted the first four to five of that. 395 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: So some definitely be proud of a look back on 396 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: and probably somebody probably won't never be broken in the 397 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: state of Mississippi. We're doing fun facts with John Jerry 398 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: or from a big family, right right, yeah, I have 399 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: six brothers and pretty big family, and people might recognize 400 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: one of your older brothers, Paray, who was a first 401 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: round draft pick by the Atlanta Falcon spent five years 402 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL before he had some injuries. You two 403 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: share the bedroom as kids, correct, Yeah, that'll be correct. Yeah, 404 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: we definitely don't share the bedrooms sharey bumbaz And until 405 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: we grew up a little bit. We didn't take us 406 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: a long to grow about it. That though. What kind 407 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: of battles were there between the Jerry boys? Us? Too 408 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: much one anything personal about it was just you know, 409 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: type of typical motivation things and doing stuff like that. 410 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: My mom had put up with us going at each other, 411 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: see don't She wasn't going for that, but she taught. 412 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she was definitely tough. So after high school 413 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: you spend a year at hardgrade military academy. How regimented 414 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: his student life at hardgrade military. Uh, it could be 415 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 1: difficult if you make it difficult beds the same as 416 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: I live back on the now. I think that was 417 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: probably the best year of my life because coming from 418 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: high school and not doing well academically and we just 419 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: learned how to do things in structure. I think that 420 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: really helped me out and propelled me for longevity. Early 421 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: wake up uniforms, bad check, the whole bit. Well, oh yeah, 422 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: you got all that. You know, formation, you marched the brooklist, 423 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: you marsh the lunch, you marched the dinner, and um, 424 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's kind of basically like jail, you know, 425 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: you got we got our own restroom and everybody we 426 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: had to make notes and putty, rotate the list each week, 427 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: and different guys. You get to do different things. So 428 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: it was definitely a fun experience. We're doing fun facts 429 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: with John Jerry. You grew up in Mississippi. Your older 430 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: brother went to Ole Miss. You went to Ole Miss. 431 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: Was a kind of pre ordained that you were going 432 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: to go there some day. I think anytime with college 433 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: is ten minutes from your MoMA house. I think it 434 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: kind of makes it hard to go anywhere else. Um, 435 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun though, especially you know, 436 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: we're having my brother and my cousin there. That was 437 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun. My mom being able 438 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: to come see me play every single home and that 439 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: was the most important thing for me. Was she like 440 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: a team mom? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. She 441 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: was definitely a team. Um. I could think back now 442 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 1: on holidays. You know, she couldn't big meals and bring 443 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: them off a bunch of guys who weren't able to 444 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: travel homes. It's a lot of fun. Your first head 445 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: coach at Old miss was ed Orger Rode, now doing 446 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: so well at LSU. He's got such a thick, cajing accent, 447 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: such a gravelly voice. I have a hard time understanding him. 448 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: Did you No, not at all? Man from Mississippion. People 449 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: talk probably worse than he does. So at the end 450 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: of the day, you know, coach is doing a great job. Man, 451 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised at all. You were 452 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: a third round draft pick by the Miami Dolphins. Described 453 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: the draft experience. It was amazing, definitely fun of spirits, 454 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 1: you know, having an older brother that kind of went 455 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: through that and kind of help to prepare for us, 456 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: so you kind of know what's expect a little bit, 457 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: but definitely a lot of assignment with the unknown, not 458 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: knowing when you're gonna get drafted. But you're definitely grateful 459 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: for whoever take the chance on you. How were your 460 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: four years in Miami? It was a lot of fun. 461 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: Definitely met a lot of friends for life and greatest 462 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: spirit for me. I learned a lot there, especially struggling 463 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: early in my career with not doing things the right 464 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: way and not being accountable, but not definitely come a 465 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: long way and to see myself now ten years later. 466 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: Definitely surprising or visiting with John Jerry after your time 467 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: in Miami assigned with the New York Giants and played 468 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: for Tom Coughlin. Did you enjoy it? I enjoyed it, man, 469 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: it was It was a lot of fun getting to 470 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: go learn upon the coach Cofflin. A lot of guys 471 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: can't do that, so I mean that says a lot 472 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: about the people who can go and play for coach Cofflin, 473 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: who's a great guy and a great man. What was 474 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: the best part about living close to the Big Apple? Uh, 475 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: there's so much to do. I mean it's there's so 476 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: much to do. And then just being a New York 477 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: pierd I think that was definitely Somebody didn't really um 478 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: in sitcipate being a lot of fun, but it was 479 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: definitely fun. Four years Did you go to Broadway? Did 480 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: your wife shop a lot there? Did you take full advantage? Yeah? 481 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: I took full advantage. I know, I got the chance 482 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: to see the World Trade Center or Statue of Liberty, 483 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: U Museums. I did pretty much everything you could do 484 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: that in those four years. I got a chance to 485 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: tour everything around the city, which is a lot of fun. 486 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: It was a big city and it's a lot to do. 487 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: So after your time with the Giants, you got let 488 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: go at the final cuts prior to last season, and 489 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: you spend a year out of football. What did you 490 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: miss the most? I will say the camoderie, being around 491 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: the guys every single day, and I mean anybody could 492 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: say that you won't miss it, but you definitely miss 493 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: that part. Just just being in the locker room around 494 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: of guys in the game day. I don't I don't 495 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: think it's nothing like waking up on game day and 496 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: come to the locker room. Did you watch football? I 497 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: didn't watch NFL football a law, So I mean unless 498 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: it was like Monday night and it was one of 499 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: my buddies playing, I watch it. But other than that 500 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: and too much watch too much football. So you've told 501 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: us that you thought your career might be over, and 502 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: your wife convinced you to stick with it, right, right, Yeah. Yeah, 503 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: she definitely convinced me to stick with it, and then 504 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, encouraged me to get out the housing and 505 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: go back out to the Arizona. And I actually trained 506 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: the entire time. I didn't play last year, fortunate enough 507 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: to be able to go out to the Charles Billy 508 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: and trained that entire year last year, and just he 509 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: definitely helped me slay prepared and for this opportunity that 510 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: I got. Did the lack of wear and tear help 511 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: you physically? Yeah? I think anytime you can get a 512 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: year off from doing something, but not just taking a 513 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: year off, but actually just still doing something aboudy working 514 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: out and stuff like that, I think I'll definitely helped myself. 515 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: All right. A few more fun facts for offensive lineman 516 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: John Jerry. Do you have a hidden talent? Nah? I 517 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: wouldn't say I have it in talent. You know. I 518 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: played a lot of Xbox That's about it. What are 519 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: your games? Some of every I play something everything? I 520 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: don't play, um not just stuck on Call of duty 521 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: or fort Night. Like most guys, I'm pretty verttile. All right, 522 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: is there something that you're absolutely terrible at? Uh? Well, 523 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: well lead that to my wife. She was a lot 524 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: of things, but I don't think it's anything. I'm just 525 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: really terrible at that. I will say I'm terrible ad 526 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I have my wife and should tell 527 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: you a lot. All right, I look forward to meeting her. 528 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: I will ask her that question. If you could meet 529 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: anybody in history, athlete, politician, religious figure, entertainer, who would 530 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: it be. I'll probably Jackie Robinson. Just somebody to go 531 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: through what he went through and to still to be 532 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: able to have that focus and determination to make the 533 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: most of the opportunities that they had. That's a great choice. 534 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: All right. You live in Memphis now in the off season, 535 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: is that correct? That'll be correct? All right. Memphis is 536 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 1: a big tourist town. If somebody wanted to visit Memphis, 537 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: where should they eat? What should they do? Go to 538 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: billscreet That's exactly where you gotta go. I mean, you'd 539 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: be able to find anything, any type of food you want. 540 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: You are going to be in the South, so it's 541 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fry foods. So the Memphis 542 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: is known for its barbecue. I think you come to Memphis, 543 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 1: you gotta just go downtown to build screen and get 544 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: some barbecue rendezvous or something a little bit more off 545 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: the beaten path. Uh, it all depend on what you like. 546 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot of the good rest. I 547 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: got a lot of favorite restaurant. I can't just name one, 548 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: but this is a lot of good places. The Pyramid, 549 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: the old basketball arena there is now the world's biggest 550 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: bass pro shop. You're nodding, you're excited. If that's something 551 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: you enjoy, I'll be in there all the time. Yeah, 552 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: that's that's probably my favorite story Memphis. To be honest, 553 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm always in Best Pro Shop getting something. I have 554 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: a big legg it right out behind my house. Fish 555 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: a lot and from Mississippi like to hunt a lot, 556 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: And I'm definitely always off in there looking at stuff. 557 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: And you know, you can go all the way up 558 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: to the ceiling and look out across the entire city 559 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: once you go up. So it's a lot of fun. 560 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: They got a hotel and there it's a it's a 561 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: one stop shop. I promise you that this best pro 562 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: shop is Ebbing. It's the most amazing use of a 563 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: former basketball arena in the world. Yes, sure, I would 564 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: agree with that. All right, you are officially off the 565 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: hot seat, appreciate the time. Best elect the rest of 566 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: the year. All right, thank you, thanks for having me, 567 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: Thanks to John Jerry, and we want to remind you 568 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: to come out and join us at our on location 569 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: radio shows this week. On Wednesday night, from six to eight, 570 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: we'll be at the Montgomery Inn Boathouse for the Bengals 571 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: Game Plan Show and our special guest in the seven 572 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: o'clock hour will be Carlos Dunlap. 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