Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No
Speaker 1: Sillers podcast with your host now funk that with your
Speaker 1: low glasses Malone. H like you get asked about, you know,
Speaker 1: the factors within the community by people who look at
Speaker 1: it like you were talking about somebody who came from
Speaker 1: there and did well and left and looks back and goes, oh,
Speaker 1: you guys need to stop doing that in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: And you're you answer a question of why are we
Speaker 1: doing this in the neighborhood? And they're asking a question
Speaker 1: or posing a thought of like the ancillary negative impact
Speaker 1: to the neighborhood, you know what I mean, and and
Speaker 1: and the like the ripple effect thereof so to speak,
Speaker 1: and and and the to like the question the answered
Speaker 1: never seemed to align at the at the un section
Speaker 1: at the same time. It's how it sounds to me
Speaker 1: as a listener. So what's the question you think that
Speaker 1: they're asking that I'm not answering what's the U. I
Speaker 1: feel like they're trying to ask what are or if
Speaker 1: if I'm trying to ask, they're they're trying to state
Speaker 1: to you whether it be l A or whatever. I mean,
Speaker 1: just like in all just as a blanket. Terms like
Speaker 1: gang culture and the violence and all that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff that goes with it in general speak, has negative
Speaker 1: impacts on the community and the area that damage the
Speaker 1: economy there. So, so that particular question I'm gonna answer, yes,
Speaker 1: it has negative impact, which war doesn't. Okay, So to
Speaker 1: keep acting like right, to keep acting like you don't
Speaker 1: understand that human beings fight like right? If me and
Speaker 1: steel right shout out to steal right, still on deck,
Speaker 1: my nigger mouse on deck, going to get into this,
Speaker 1: No citlerships still who appears to be muted for the record,
Speaker 1: Yeah he is muted. Okay. So let's say me is
Speaker 1: still getting a disagreement at Dinny's Me and still right,
Speaker 1: and we have a big brother little brother squabble, right,
Speaker 1: we we go to war, right, and here we start fighting.
Speaker 1: We start throwing each other around here. You get in
Speaker 1: the way trying to stop the fight. I throw you
Speaker 1: over there and knock over a table. You break a table,
Speaker 1: miles getting away. I throw him somewhere. He's he didn't
Speaker 1: broke the stove for me. Me Me is still reveling. We're
Speaker 1: wrestling around, We're fighting, tables everywhere, chairs everywhere, plates broken, glasses,
Speaker 1: broken everything, and we walk out the Dennis. You know,
Speaker 1: we're like we we uh, it's enough is enough? We
Speaker 1: walk out the Dennys. The Dennys is gonna be destroyed,
Speaker 1: you mean so, yes, when people fight, things are gonna
Speaker 1: be destroyed. Well, Like on the broader geographical scale, when
Speaker 1: you're looking at conflicts of regions, typically, like important questions
Speaker 1: that are usually asked are what is victory? How do
Speaker 1: you define victory? And and and what is the pathway
Speaker 1: to eliminating the conflicts so we can get back to business.
Speaker 1: And you see treaties that are drafted successfully in the
Speaker 1: Pacific rim after wars, or in parts of Europe or
Speaker 1: the States or whatever, and those areas tend to do well,
Speaker 1: whereas the places that have perpetual conflict with not a
Speaker 1: clear definition of victory or no direct pathway to treaty,
Speaker 1: they seem to be bogged down for decade after decade
Speaker 1: after decade in in squalor as a result. So like
Speaker 1: that's I think maybe also part of the dynamic of
Speaker 1: the question. But every war is not a try in sixties,
Speaker 1: right hr and sixties is one of those is Hoover
Speaker 1: in in sixties is like the Cold War. It's the
Speaker 1: war that's not really happening. But you could tell it's
Speaker 1: this tension that has lasted for years and years and years.
Speaker 1: Maybe guys have came into contact. It's been a little
Speaker 1: small stuff they did to each other, but they have
Speaker 1: never really directed their full energy into classing. Right. But then,
Speaker 1: so you can have the SISS and the trades, right,
Speaker 1: which is a war that's permanent, right, that that never changes,
Speaker 1: it just cools down, right, Um, the Siss and their
Speaker 1: trades aren't murdering each other every year all year. I
Speaker 1: mean that they're just not. It's just not it's not
Speaker 1: the true reality of the situation. Um. And then you
Speaker 1: could have a war like a hundred and seventeen Street
Speaker 1: versus Carver Park when I was growing up, which is
Speaker 1: a war that kind of went off. You know, it
Speaker 1: was probably ninety days of violence, you know, shooting, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe somewhere between ninety days and a hundred and eighty days,
Speaker 1: you know, not every day, but back and forth, shooting, fighting,
Speaker 1: you know, the normal posture and everything else. And then
Speaker 1: you have like you worked off that energy and it
Speaker 1: it may not be a full out treaty sign like
Speaker 1: the Pacific rim right, but there's a reality of like,
Speaker 1: you know what, this isn't worth it. You know, people
Speaker 1: have been shot, Thank god nobody died. You know, let's
Speaker 1: just let bygones be bygones. Yeah, would you say that
Speaker 1: in general the broader east Side not all the heights
Speaker 1: like East l A, but like the broader east side
Speaker 1: East it would be eastern side of the one too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It would would be a fair comp to like say
Speaker 1: Central Africa or Central American countries where there's just constant
Speaker 1: turnover and there's never really quite the stability where where
Speaker 1: you see stuff level out like generation over generation. I
Speaker 1: mean sure, because um, the same poverty and lack of
Speaker 1: opportunity exists all the time. If you don't have anything
Speaker 1: else to People ask me to participate in peace treatise
Speaker 1: pete all the time. They're like, hey, man, you want
Speaker 1: to give this peace treating. I'm like, if you want
Speaker 1: me to our will They're like, why don't you want to?
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, if I don't have careers that have
Speaker 1: you know, livable wages to offer people, what am I
Speaker 1: telling them to do with their time? Exactly? What am
Speaker 1: I telling them to do with their time? If you
Speaker 1: don't have these things. You're gonna put the time into
Speaker 1: your friends and your community to the best of your ability.
Speaker 1: This is going to be your room. Um, everybody is
Speaker 1: not as creative and you know, searching out opportunities. Everybody's
Speaker 1: not mouse, you know, everybody's not still. Everybody's not glasses
Speaker 1: that come from where we come from. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I got homies rest and sold rest they sold like
Speaker 1: their mother and father were both on drugs. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like they didn't know how they was
Speaker 1: gonna eat. And I know that seems like this general
Speaker 1: usual story, but that's real. That's not low TV show,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you're talking about somebody seven, eight,
Speaker 1: nine years old figured out how to eat dinner by themselves,
Speaker 1: you know, and and they survived these elements, and then
Speaker 1: they adopt these rules that help them survive. And then
Speaker 1: we look at those rules like it's crazy. You mean,
Speaker 1: but this has been this person's guideline to survival probably
Speaker 1: since they was eight years old. So it's no excuse.
Speaker 1: It's just the reality of some people's circumstances, that's all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well I believe an tell them you have property, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have um certain conditions. It just breeds crime naturally
Speaker 1: because when people don't see hope or have opportunities, Like
Speaker 1: she said he had two friends that mom was on
Speaker 1: drugs and daddy's on drugs. How can we expect that
Speaker 1: kid to come out functional normally he's already at a
Speaker 1: lost countra so and not on drugs like function and
Speaker 1: drug addies, I mean, like pushing basket drug addices. Some
Speaker 1: of my homies did beat those circumstances. You, I mean
Speaker 1: one or two of them, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But like most of them didn't. And that's a tough
Speaker 1: circumstance to beat. And it just bothers me when we're
Speaker 1: talking about our people who know, I mean Pete, you know,
Speaker 1: because you haven't been around it a little bit. But
Speaker 1: there is a there is a nuance that even you like,
Speaker 1: if you're not seeing it every day. It just almost
Speaker 1: sounds unbelievable. But that's hip hop in general. Hip hop,
Speaker 1: the language, hip hop, the fashion, it all sounds unbelievable,
Speaker 1: like you don't believe these places exist. Like I did
Speaker 1: a show for a guy in Huntedson Beach. He was
Speaker 1: a kid who wanted the club about twenty two, his
Speaker 1: parents gave him a club for his twenty first birthday
Speaker 1: and he paid me. I know, right, it's white people.
Speaker 1: Ship gave him a club for his twenty first birthday. Okay, Pete,
Speaker 1: I see you. Oh wait on that side. Early, I
Speaker 1: don't want to make it hot. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: go on, because he's going on. So it's twenty first birthday, right,
Speaker 1: And so he booked me for his twenty second birthday
Speaker 1: at the club. He's a fan of mine as a rapper,
Speaker 1: following me to this day. He I come performed, you know,
Speaker 1: I killed the show's good show. We're talking after winning
Speaker 1: the v I p offer me drinks now, drenk Oh,
Speaker 1: you don't drink, your rapper, you don't drink. I'm like
Speaker 1: all rappers don't drink. Sead like he was talking and
Speaker 1: he was asking me questions and he was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know, he's just crazy to hear these stories. And
Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys create these stories out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. And I'm like, Jake, he was like yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is real. He like, people really
Speaker 1: live like this. He did not believe people really lived
Speaker 1: like this. You know what I'm saying, And so I
Speaker 1: brought him to where I'm from. I took him the Watts.
Speaker 1: You know, he was like, he trust him enough, and
Speaker 1: I brought him to Watts. I brought him to a
Speaker 1: hundred seventeenth. I took him to the Perial Court. He
Speaker 1: was so astonished that it was a reality. He brought
Speaker 1: his parents back, like he became obsessed to me to
Speaker 1: some degree, to where he was troubled that people lived
Speaker 1: like this. Remember the only experienced people got into this
Speaker 1: thing we call hip hop or the hood or the
Speaker 1: upside down feel me was on the news and they
Speaker 1: wouldn't broadcast a lot of it, so you don't know
Speaker 1: it exists. And it's right there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We're talking about fifteen twenty minutes away, but it's a
Speaker 1: world away. So it's just a tough out what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and and it's it's hard for the general population. But
Speaker 1: but like I tell every up and coming hip hop artist,
Speaker 1: your job is to take people into that lion's cage
Speaker 1: and where we you know, came from and how we
Speaker 1: talked there, you know, how we live what's going on,
Speaker 1: because that's where people don't have access to. They have
Speaker 1: access to everything else. They can go everywhere else. But
Speaker 1: you know, like Miles being from b K. Glass being
Speaker 1: from why still being from the poorest parts of Cleveland.
Speaker 1: It's like we lions, you mean, it's like you go
Speaker 1: to a zoos, like you go to a zoo to
Speaker 1: see a line. Nine percent of the population has never
Speaker 1: seen a real lion, let alone in the womb with
Speaker 1: a lion. So you know lions exist, right, But then
Speaker 1: I was telling still this ninety nine some population never
Speaker 1: met a gang member, being not a real one never,
Speaker 1: so their full experience, the greatest part is dolloy or
Speaker 1: you know, rocking from cut. So that's our job is
Speaker 1: to bring people the culture, you know, the life. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not just about participating the crime. But even like
Speaker 1: a group like they I sold that, you know, they
Speaker 1: literally were still just as influence without being participants in crime.
Speaker 1: That was just obververs. But trust me, even as an observer,
Speaker 1: it affects your life. You start to see things differently
Speaker 1: and you have this view of the world. So it's
Speaker 1: hard I agree, you right, People ask me like gee,
Speaker 1: you know, oh man, you know, they want to talk
Speaker 1: to me about what's conducive for the community. You know
Speaker 1: what's not poverty, oppression, those are the things for sure.
Speaker 1: That's like hip hop is not influencing people. Don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong. There are some jackasses that are influenced by
Speaker 1: hip hop to com make crimes. It is always some retarded,
Speaker 1: ridiculous people. But if you probably white dude from palace
Speaker 1: verities who got caught whatever, that that's like Jeffrey Duhmer,
Speaker 1: I can't speak to people that heard a rap record
Speaker 1: it and got they first done because they heard a
Speaker 1: rat record. You're fucking crazy. Yeah, I don't have no
Speaker 1: words for you in life, you know, if you have
Speaker 1: that messed up. But the reason I don't overstate that
Speaker 1: that's the reality, Pete, is because middle class communities haven't
Speaker 1: started gangbanging yet. The right communities that are the greatest
Speaker 1: consumers of hip hop are not gang banging yet. They're
Speaker 1: not They're not throwing their life away because they have
Speaker 1: value for their life. Like the ghetto, music ain't influence
Speaker 1: in the ghetto. The ghetto is influencing the music. That's
Speaker 1: how I worked. So that's why it's a hard question
Speaker 1: to answer. Even when I coppeared on the mask scale.
Speaker 1: The belief is that the mass scale is like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, they have a purpose to fight and they're
Speaker 1: gonna have an end goal. Maybe Russia and Ukraine don't
Speaker 1: got no go rush your trip and you Ukraine standing
Speaker 1: enough for their selves. We would like to believe those
Speaker 1: countries having end goal. I think the other countries that
Speaker 1: are back in the Ukraine do not. I don't even
Speaker 1: think those countries. I think they just squabbling. I think
Speaker 1: if somebody, if somebody, you fight back. I think Ukraine's
Speaker 1: and goals to survivee Ukraine wants. Russia wants Ukraine. I
Speaker 1: don't think you crane, but Ukraine contracts. Ukraine ain't kick
Speaker 1: this ship off Russia did. Russia had the ingo. Russia
Speaker 1: wants Ukraine. Ukraine was just chilling. They were like, all right, well,
Speaker 1: if you know, if if we're underpooling whatever, like when
Speaker 1: we gotta squabble, yeah we got scabble niggas brought this morning.
Speaker 1: They would definitely like you listen, we'll take the oppression,
Speaker 1: leave us alone. Putin was like, NA, we're not just
Speaker 1: oppressing you. We want to mush you too and ask
Speaker 1: what you're not You're not just gonna mush us. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna have it like that. That's gonna get the
Speaker 1: squabble off. If we gotta squabb before you feel me,
Speaker 1: it's gonna come like that. And they put up a
Speaker 1: squabble and America wouldn't do that. America wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: There was if I was fighting on the South, America
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. That's that's that shows you just the
Speaker 1: disconnect that American society has to freedom, right, Like if
Speaker 1: niggas really attacked US, Americans would look to the military first.
Speaker 1: When Ukraine got attacked, Baker's was like, where's the guns?
Speaker 1: My boy? They were like, all right, what's up? Like
Speaker 1: I'm a farmer, what's up? Where's the How were fighting back?
Speaker 1: You look at those masks. You look at those masks,
Speaker 1: graves they have them. Them soldiers wasn't not trained soldiers.
Speaker 1: They was people who said we're gonna fight for our country.
Speaker 1: So all this ship took me that American dude, oh this,
Speaker 1: he took the need for the flag patriotism. If it
Speaker 1: came down to it, these niggas would not pop. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you this, Um, I think there's a certain
Speaker 1: sign of white America that we'll fight and they're getting
Speaker 1: prepared for that moment right now. I think they say
Speaker 1: they like. I think I think they say they fight.
Speaker 1: I think those I think they said they fight, and
Speaker 1: they might let let off a couple of shots. But
Speaker 1: I think the mass majority it's guard blank. They're gonna
Speaker 1: find a president to blame, and they're gonna tucking hot
Speaker 1: until it's over. Did you see a belt? Biden said,
Speaker 1: you know, if if China attack Taiwana, yeah, we would go.
Speaker 1: We would go suit up for Taiwan and squabble. That's
Speaker 1: not true. Biens banding paid for by China anyway. He's
Speaker 1: just saying that ship because there's a vote happening in November.
Speaker 1: I genuinely I don't know. I think Castle culture in
Speaker 1: general has made everybody allergic to the squabble. Gee. You
Speaker 1: know how you always compare um these foreign difficult these
Speaker 1: difficulties that these foreign nations have sometimes to gang banging.
Speaker 1: Would you say that um Russia and Ukraine would be
Speaker 1: the irvcs the imperial courts in the middle of Inglewood?
Speaker 1: You mutic yourself, bro, I hear you go ahead, yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead. So would you would you say that the
Speaker 1: rest of Ukraine conflict is like the comparable gang bangings
Speaker 1: um scenario would be the Imperial Court and gardens in
Speaker 1: the middle of Inglewood. H I mean, I would have
Speaker 1: to thank a lot more of I start really making
Speaker 1: those comps, you feel me. But on a on a
Speaker 1: small scale, it's the same type of situation. Gang banging
Speaker 1: is the same situation on the world scale, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong. Like I agree with Pete, United States of
Speaker 1: America is a very mickey country. Like it's very manipulative.
Speaker 1: You would be thinking this is what it's about, but
Speaker 1: in the back of their mind they got a whole
Speaker 1: another plan about what's about to happen. One of those countries,
Speaker 1: you know, China is one of those. It's a few
Speaker 1: countries that are any any time country with power is
Speaker 1: going to be that way suppressed too. The actual news
Speaker 1: is suppressed. We don't see the actual news. I realized
Speaker 1: that when I started traveling to Europe, because I used
Speaker 1: to always exchange my mindset when I really start going
Speaker 1: around the world, because I would be able to see
Speaker 1: America from the outside looking me and I would be like, damn,
Speaker 1: we look like the terrorists. Yeah, yeah, we look like
Speaker 1: a terrorist country. When you hear about all the US
Speaker 1: just occupied this place, but they just did this and
Speaker 1: that that's the stuff that they don't shoot us over here.
Speaker 1: But that's like you, y'all, my homies. And I'm telling
Speaker 1: y'all what happened to me. And then I'm telling y'all
Speaker 1: the story from my perspective. Y'all, my homies, fear me, y'all,
Speaker 1: my people. I'm telling you the story I might have
Speaker 1: not told you. I slapped the nigga first, and now
Speaker 1: that's why we squabbling, and he want to kill me
Speaker 1: because I just slapped in in front of his girl.
Speaker 1: So I'm telling you the story that I want you
Speaker 1: to know because I want you to have my side,
Speaker 1: is my homie. So I don't get a fitting with
Speaker 1: that style of media, like a lot of people. That's
Speaker 1: what people do in general, you know. But America is
Speaker 1: the bully though, gee, because America is the only country
Speaker 1: that has a base on every city of the globe.
Speaker 1: Damn there. I think it's only I think that's a
Speaker 1: little more convoluted. I agree with you the initial point,
Speaker 1: but having a base in different countries, it's almost like
Speaker 1: a lot of those countries asked for, right, So like
Speaker 1: imagine like, imagine growing up with some ship that we
Speaker 1: don't know. It's like growing people business, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like all our parents just tell something like
Speaker 1: it's just the way it is. But then when we've
Speaker 1: become fully formed of depths, we're like, that really don't
Speaker 1: make no sense. But we don't know that our grandparents
Speaker 1: asked for these people to be here, and now we're saying,
Speaker 1: all right, they've been so long, they're not really helping.
Speaker 1: They're actually hurting us. Why y'all hear you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's just a little different. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: a lot of those a lot of those nations asked
Speaker 1: for us to be there now because you know us
Speaker 1: being there and we know that you know, power is corrupt,
Speaker 1: All power is corrupt, you know what I mean. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you're there for a while to help. Then you realize, well,
Speaker 1: I can actually make some money for myself off of this.
Speaker 1: I can actually make some money over this. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we came into a lot of these countries on good terms.
Speaker 1: We came to a lot of these countries with good
Speaker 1: intentions on on good terms, and then somewhere down the
Speaker 1: line it became corrupt. Someone said, oh, let's lie be
Speaker 1: for this. Oh, we're already over there. We can make
Speaker 1: money over this, uh natural fuel, and we can make
Speaker 1: money of this natural resource. And now it's like and
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's and I don't even
Speaker 1: know if that's corrupt mouse, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't know if if if that is corrupt the
Speaker 1: other country. Yeah, when you when you use good to
Speaker 1: benefit self, that's corrupt. If by doing good it just
Speaker 1: so happened that you are benefited, that's different. But if
Speaker 1: you're using the reason you came here, you're supposed to
Speaker 1: do this, but you're like, my funk that I'm here.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna do this thing over here that only
Speaker 1: benefits me, that's corrupt. That is the true definition. But
Speaker 1: that's that's the only way it ever started. It's it's large,
Speaker 1: but but it's like pasteurizing milk. As you first came
Speaker 1: up with the concept, right, it was for beer. Like
Speaker 1: he was like, you know what I'm tired of. If
Speaker 1: I don't drink this beer instantly, it's gonna go Bad's
Speaker 1: gonna make people sick. So what I need to do
Speaker 1: is I'm I figured out this way to heat it
Speaker 1: up right, and now it'll last me at least a day,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And this became one of
Speaker 1: the greatest two days. This became one of the greatest
Speaker 1: events in man kind. Right, and applied it to milk
Speaker 1: and everything. And somebody asked, right that that simple idea, right,
Speaker 1: was perfect because it got things the last a day
Speaker 1: or two three, you know, people got more value out
Speaker 1: of whatever they paid for. Somebody asked, realized, if I
Speaker 1: alter pasteurize it, if I strip it of all of
Speaker 1: his nutritious content, it would last a month. Right. But
Speaker 1: then the conversation also becomes, we can ship it around
Speaker 1: the world. People around the world can have milk, and
Speaker 1: we can ship it for one country. The real question is,
Speaker 1: at that point, with all the nutritious properties pretty much
Speaker 1: stripping gone, is it milk still? And that point of
Speaker 1: cutting any product rugs anything. So it's always on which
Speaker 1: side of the field you add, if that makes sense,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, And that's the same for war.
Speaker 1: And you know, all these ideas like you're right, Like
Speaker 1: they asked for America to be there, that they felt
Speaker 1: America brought value. Maybe they were scared of squabble with
Speaker 1: something with another country's like, well of America here, they
Speaker 1: ain't gonna want to squabble with us with America here,
Speaker 1: so they used it. So they was using America in
Speaker 1: the first place in America like, Okay, we've been here
Speaker 1: for years, is there any value for being here? So
Speaker 1: I think America does you know, America some ship. It's
Speaker 1: some bullshit, but it does get a lot worse rep
Speaker 1: from his past sins as well. She But just from
Speaker 1: the whole standpoint, America some bullshit can of dog. But
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in the world
Speaker 1: because but just think about the whole premise of taxation,
Speaker 1: dog tax and everything like that. You just just think
Speaker 1: about that alone, because prior to World War One, to
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, Pekas, I know, well first
Speaker 1: and stuff like this. Yeah, prior to World War One,
Speaker 1: it wasn't no income taxes dog people. Pete, don't get
Speaker 1: Pete started, dude, that's the one person we don't want
Speaker 1: to think. That's the most illegal thing in the world.
Speaker 1: Because I'm sitting listen, I'm sitting up here looking and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I owe a hundred thousand dollars over a
Speaker 1: hundred thousand that was in Texas, Dog, And I'm looking
Speaker 1: at it, and you're gonna lease payment playing She's like, man,
Speaker 1: I would never pay for this. This is those stretch
Speaker 1: over unless I just pay it off, Dog, this is
Speaker 1: gonna probably extending my family after. I'm going though. If
Speaker 1: you if you tax and stuff you die, Yes you are.
Speaker 1: Your spouse is responsible for the motherfucker your spouse but
Speaker 1: not your kids. Your kids not Your kids don't own
Speaker 1: the money. But if you try to give them anything,
Speaker 1: they'll they only get the delta. Mm hmm. I mean
Speaker 1: America is definitely milking over milking the cow. But I'm
Speaker 1: not I mean, it depends on what you're talking about. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. The initial introduction of
Speaker 1: taxation makes so much sense. Came into my homies. Let me,
Speaker 1: I don't mean to cut you up. Let me do
Speaker 1: like can to my homies from my game right and
Speaker 1: I say, hey, man, we should all start paying like
Speaker 1: attacks like a dude, you know that way. The homies
Speaker 1: like my my big homie smirf. That's locked up all
Speaker 1: my big homies and good standings. The guys who want
Speaker 1: to do something with their life. We should have a
Speaker 1: fun to be able to help people do positive things
Speaker 1: or even the homies that through their life away like
Speaker 1: no different than the soldier, you know, Like, okay, you
Speaker 1: in prison, at least you can get You should be
Speaker 1: able to spread every week. Damn, you can't spread every week.
Speaker 1: I mean you you were in prison for life because
Speaker 1: you wanted to hold down the statue and make people
Speaker 1: realize that they couldn't contend with a hundred seventeen street.
Speaker 1: It was gonna come with consequences, and the police captured you.
Speaker 1: For sure, you should be able to spread every week.
Speaker 1: For you should have a phone if it's available. You
Speaker 1: should be able to make your calls. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you should be Donald Trump up and there living this
Speaker 1: luxurious life. I'm saying the simple over necessities, because you're
Speaker 1: a good standing makes sense. And that's something when I
Speaker 1: brought that ship up, you would have thought I told
Speaker 1: these nigga, I'm Finn the DP and put you all
Speaker 1: all off and this is just gonna be me. That
Speaker 1: would have been made you like that other rapper who
Speaker 1: who unencrypted of itself because nobody else's have to have
Speaker 1: standard it. Oh yeah, we're gonna start that again. Though
Speaker 1: it's gamesterism no matter how you slice it. Bro If
Speaker 1: I own a house, Let's say, and this is facts,
Speaker 1: Let's say I go to England and I see a brownstone,
Speaker 1: I like, they got brownstones out there, right. I go
Speaker 1: to Limon, I see a brown stone like, I like,
Speaker 1: I purchased it and airbnb it out out there, and
Speaker 1: I'm doing well with it. You know, the US expects
Speaker 1: me to pay taxes on that money that I'm getting
Speaker 1: from over there. You don't have nothing to do with
Speaker 1: them over here, but the tax that you would pay
Speaker 1: over there is deductible from that, so you really wouldn't
Speaker 1: pay any People just don't know that. I'm just finding
Speaker 1: that out. Maybe I need a new test X person.
Speaker 1: But man, you know, just just looking at it. Because
Speaker 1: as facts Joe's asked, they put fact Joe was asking
Speaker 1: behind his taxes though he was he was wilding. A
Speaker 1: lot of the artists be wilent or they'd be wilding
Speaker 1: on two different sets. So either you're wilding and you're
Speaker 1: just living life and you're not paying taxes, or you're
Speaker 1: wilding because you're just trusting somebody else because you're paying them,
Speaker 1: you're trusting them to take care of your money as
Speaker 1: if they don't have a vested interest in this ship too,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So either way, you're wiling
Speaker 1: right like you did like fat Joe uh job rule
Speaker 1: Wesley Snipe, like these are the guys were paying their
Speaker 1: accountant to do this and the accounting just wasn't doing it.
Speaker 1: But at no point did you ever think to look
Speaker 1: and say, y'all wonder what's going on? But you know what,
Speaker 1: it's alecto vegnesia mouse. I think sometimes as as human beings,
Speaker 1: we canpartmentalize certain things that we don't want to deal
Speaker 1: with it, and we officially forgid about it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you know what it's similar to, like you know
Speaker 1: how like like you could say, especially in the acting
Speaker 1: line of work, where you have a lot of deductible stuff,
Speaker 1: you've got representation, you've got all kinds of expenses and
Speaker 1: whatever else you can write off a lot. You get
Speaker 1: people who I think, well, accountant shop for the best
Speaker 1: news the same way like if somebody has like a
Speaker 1: back injury, they'll go to five doctors and the doctor
Speaker 1: that tells them the rosiest news is the doctor that
Speaker 1: they go to. You might not be the best doctor
Speaker 1: and you might not get the best accountant. You just
Speaker 1: get the one that provides you what you like to
Speaker 1: hear about. And that's how you wind it with a
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollar text that because the woman I have
Speaker 1: been using for years, I just wore up it down
Speaker 1: because she was telling Mr Steele, We're gonna do this,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, we go stick it to
Speaker 1: the system. But then I get this letter in the
Speaker 1: mail one day, this do all these little things on there?
Speaker 1: You didn't report this? And I got Loki scire though,
Speaker 1: because the way they knocked on my door. It it's
Speaker 1: not like they sent me a certified letter. Motherfucker knocked
Speaker 1: on my door and I said, hey, how you doing. Man? Here,
Speaker 1: you go sign this right here. And I'm like, well
Speaker 1: what is this? It was like I got bumbros kind
Speaker 1: of and it's they made me sign for this man.
Speaker 1: So it's like it is these motherfucker's coming snatch me
Speaker 1: up one day if I don't pay that bill. Just squabbling. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not sa nobody, bro, I'm thinking their famis no,
Speaker 1: just just turn into the tax Jeffrey Dahmer or something
Speaker 1: like that, or the other guy who had all those
Speaker 1: bodies in the backyard. Anytime a tax Scott comes in,
Speaker 1: they just disappear. Can ask you a question though, And
Speaker 1: for those out there they can't see this, this is hilarious. Peter.
Speaker 1: You gotta girl just walking around the background like it
Speaker 1: ain't nothing to do. You can that's not happening. That's that,
Speaker 1: that's all in your mind. I gotta tell me that
Speaker 1: there's a shadow that keeps going by. That's so swart
Speaker 1: because it looks like she in the baby list or something.
Speaker 1: He said. Fans shadow keeps going on this every time
Speaker 1: she walked by, said Peter Floss on this before. No,
Speaker 1: I just think that I think out of micro level.
Speaker 1: On the macro level, it's the same thing. The squaw
Speaker 1: was the same thing. I mean, it just don't feel
Speaker 1: like it all the time. But you know what diff
Speaker 1: guard what these people fight for. But it's it's easy
Speaker 1: to understand what these people fight not to cut you off.
Speaker 1: I think is human nature to have conflict. Though. I
Speaker 1: think even if the world was perfect, if everything was perfect,
Speaker 1: Let's say we just lived in this utopia where everything
Speaker 1: was perfect gen to where it was almost overly perfect. Everybody,
Speaker 1: even the unemployed, was getting ten thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 1: It would be almost two perfect dudes. Somebody would still
Speaker 1: find a way to have conflict about something, especially us.
Speaker 1: We will still find a way to be upset. Yeah,
Speaker 1: human beings. Well, I mean, I just I just think,
Speaker 1: I just think. Listen before we start getting into the
Speaker 1: whole root of conflict. You know, the same ship happens
Speaker 1: in the jungle of times. It's just on. Well, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Sometimes you have conflicts. G I love you, man,
Speaker 1: I love you my brother as far as I'm for you.
Speaker 1: We have arguments all the time, all the time. I
Speaker 1: literally did all the time. And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I just want to say same thing. Yes, uh,
Speaker 1: local is my brother and we for two different sides
Speaker 1: or two different sides of the country. But that's my dog,
Speaker 1: that's my brother. But we argue every time. There's never
Speaker 1: been a time and we're not arguing. But that But
Speaker 1: that's because but I'm gonna tell you my glasses. You
Speaker 1: know what it is, man lowest common denominator, the locust
Speaker 1: common denominator. But you know what that's because most people,
Speaker 1: most people say what they say and don't say it
Speaker 1: to the person they said to somebody else, Glass is
Speaker 1: gonna call you. So like me and Mouse had a
Speaker 1: conversation about little NASAs, right, and it was a conversation. Right.
Speaker 1: Mouse is tied into his campaign, so not like that,
Speaker 1: not like like you know his people, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean it's campaign, he's campaign manager. I treat everything like
Speaker 1: it's an election. Everybody voted them. So he's tied into somebody.
Speaker 1: He's tied into his campaign. You know people in campaign. Right,
Speaker 1: So somebody called me that for one of my punished
Speaker 1: with Georgia and he was like, yeah, man gie, while
Speaker 1: you on his head like that, and he's like blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, and he was just going off and I
Speaker 1: was like, what do you mean. He was like, he
Speaker 1: just swore it was because like he was gay. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, that's just like like if you talk
Speaker 1: to them, you know, that's way too unintelligent for me
Speaker 1: to care if you gay. I'm not even giving you. No.
Speaker 1: I don't buy marketing strategies, yes, like you genuinely have
Speaker 1: to really have good products like the market like a
Speaker 1: lot of is a perfect example. This is a fantastic talent,
Speaker 1: one of the best. She actually has the opportunity to
Speaker 1: be the greatest female MC ever. Right, but I understand
Speaker 1: why they decided to sell sex as the marketing strategy
Speaker 1: to get her in the door. Yeah, what he said,
Speaker 1: what he said is in blastments. He said he has
Speaker 1: the opportunity and talent to be calm. Now if she
Speaker 1: becomes that what's the girl's name, I'm not the student,
Speaker 1: you guys, l t Still she tough. This is tough.
Speaker 1: I got I gotta get up on it. When she
Speaker 1: came into business, right, she was squabbly with trying to
Speaker 1: sell the streets, you know what I mean. She was
Speaker 1: trying to sell the streets, and she she had records
Speaker 1: Queen of the South and all this stuff. But again
Speaker 1: them signed type of squad was trying to get into
Speaker 1: business with different market strategies make it tough. So she
Speaker 1: made changes to herself and started selling you know, sex,
Speaker 1: that's the easiest thing. Now, that don't mean all the
Speaker 1: records is about sex. It just means that is that
Speaker 1: the female rapper cheat code like what we were talking
Speaker 1: about in the last episode. Yes, oh, cheat code, though
Speaker 1: I don't know if the cheat code the same way
Speaker 1: we talked about. We just got note talking about drill.
Speaker 1: We just got talking about, you know, look at low low.
Speaker 1: Not to cut you off. She's from Columbus. I don't
Speaker 1: know whis she has the potential to be the one.
Speaker 1: Oh dog. She is tough. I knew y'all talking about
Speaker 1: I saw her on the show a long time ago,
Speaker 1: Dog Show. Yeah, yeah, she was tough. She was tough.
Speaker 1: She was brad to be what she is. But go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead. So when I don't know if it's a cheeco,
Speaker 1: I think it's a little lazy. When if we say,
Speaker 1: like selling sexual or whatever cases, a woman talking about
Speaker 1: her sexual liberation or sexual agency is a cheat code
Speaker 1: because we talk about our sexual agency all day and
Speaker 1: raption will not me. I don't wrap, but but it
Speaker 1: doesn't make anybody any money. That that's not true. How
Speaker 1: many whose I got in different areas, But I unders
Speaker 1: understand understand selling song. It's different thought that like you're
Speaker 1: not gonna name me. No, we don't only consume. If
Speaker 1: we only consume, shoot him up, kill them wraps, it
Speaker 1: would be there'd be no marketplace. Well, but when you
Speaker 1: want somebody to dance, so that way you get what
Speaker 1: I would say that like stunning a bunch of money
Speaker 1: and jewelry and wealthy like that. It's more than aren't right,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, So I don't But I don't
Speaker 1: think it's our cheek car. I think you're talking about
Speaker 1: like you're talking about a specific life, either one that
Speaker 1: you lived as a drug dealer, one that you aspired
Speaker 1: to live as a wrapper. That's I don't think that
Speaker 1: a cheat code. I think that who can talk about
Speaker 1: not not not not so much the conversation because I
Speaker 1: don't think a lot of most A lot of songs
Speaker 1: is about fucking. I think what we're saying is one
Speaker 1: on that debut album about yeah yeah, but the body
Speaker 1: bout that. I don't think nobody a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of it. I imagine a lot of to not
Speaker 1: be like an amateur in bed, with all due respect
Speaker 1: to the little sister, like she would not be the
Speaker 1: person you know what I mean? I would if that
Speaker 1: was very softly and tasteful, that might have been the
Speaker 1: best way. That might have been the best. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: like a lot of because I don't think you would have.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have had that much care in articulation about
Speaker 1: anybody else. No, I'm just no, because this is honest,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just being honest. So even when I'm blood
Speaker 1: is still in that same space, like if like a
Speaker 1: lot of would not be if I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I want to get with a girl that it's gonna
Speaker 1: suck the dog ship out of me in bed and
Speaker 1: she's an entertainment, A lot of would not be the
Speaker 1: person I would think of. A lot of does not
Speaker 1: scream like you know, I'm gonna put it on you
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be over for you. You You know, if
Speaker 1: I had to think of a person like that in
Speaker 1: the business Rihanna, that Rihanna looked like she will suck
Speaker 1: your lights out. I mean she looked like she ain't
Speaker 1: sucking around. You know. It's just so. But I know
Speaker 1: what Pete saying. It's like the cheat code, right, the
Speaker 1: cheat code for us as well, not rapping about you know,
Speaker 1: not rapping about like like whole you know, rapping about
Speaker 1: having success as a deep boy blah blah blah or
Speaker 1: where you want to be successful over selling it like
Speaker 1: so it looks the part lyric. Yes, so same with
Speaker 1: sex not women, Like I love wh whapp Is. Probably
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound crazy, but I tell people whopp
Speaker 1: is in my top five greatest hip hop female songs.
Speaker 1: It's very germinely so too. Deliberation is fired. Whatever you
Speaker 1: you know they talk is different. But when you start
Speaker 1: over selling it, how you see it? Like it's people like,
Speaker 1: I know this girl's like little Chloe baby. I'm like
Speaker 1: you you like it ain't there yet, just your face
Speaker 1: keeping you know what I mean? Like, it's just she's
Speaker 1: embracing that. I think a lot of this ship is
Speaker 1: based on your point of entry, right like Chloe and
Speaker 1: Halley's entry point was Beyonce's babies. So if it's not
Speaker 1: going to be like a thirty plus year maturation of
Speaker 1: embracing your sexual sexuality like what it was with Beyonce,
Speaker 1: then they're gonna fight back against it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I love to see Chloe doing that. I
Speaker 1: look at it like a little baby, but I love
Speaker 1: to see that she's created a space but herself where
Speaker 1: hey listen to that. I'm gonna be I'm being I'm
Speaker 1: be shaking my ass and being a throng and tomorrow
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be singing with the greatest technicality and uh
Speaker 1: a goddamn uh overcoat and turtle that you know what
Speaker 1: I mean like we just gotta make trying to trying
Speaker 1: to put trying to put limitations on when and where
Speaker 1: somebody can with winning, where a black woman, no matter
Speaker 1: the age, can embrace their sexuality. I think we're always
Speaker 1: gonna find ourselves in the same argument time. I don't
Speaker 1: think it. I don't think it's about and I think
Speaker 1: it costs you. I think that's it. And that's why
Speaker 1: I call it cheating, right, It's it's cheating because literally
Speaker 1: it's a cheap way to get attention, right, but I
Speaker 1: think it costs you on the long run. And I
Speaker 1: do agree with Pete there, like it's the easy way, right,
Speaker 1: but the long way is more of a paved way.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Like it's like it's there permanently,
Speaker 1: like sex is cheap. She it's that deep girl. I
Speaker 1: just think that people do with their predecessors with I
Speaker 1: think people look at people like let's take let's take
Speaker 1: Nicki Minajs for example, Dope MC. But she even had
Speaker 1: to go get the butt done and do all but
Speaker 1: she had to do didn't have to It's just easy.
Speaker 1: I think it definitely made it easier for her to
Speaker 1: do what she's doing. Bro. That's all, yeah, that's all
Speaker 1: we're saying. I mean she didn't. I mean she could
Speaker 1: have done it anither way. It said. It's it's paying
Speaker 1: for the fast track pass to not sitting traffic. She's
Speaker 1: think it is like soon as you do it. It's
Speaker 1: like I was watching. Um. I've been talking about her too.
Speaker 1: This is funny. But little orphan any um, I think
Speaker 1: as little orphan any mouse, you know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: munching ice spice, ice spice. Yeah, as a little orphan
Speaker 1: any um. But she was performing right, she was getting
Speaker 1: off right, she was rapping, and you can tell she
Speaker 1: was timmy. You could tell it was she was still
Speaker 1: new to it, as fresh to it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And she turned around and start twerking, like
Speaker 1: throwing that thing around. The whole crowd lost it. So
Speaker 1: I agree it is cheat and it is cheap. It
Speaker 1: is cheap, right, but it worked. That's like us like
Speaker 1: right as a rapper, like the easiest thing for a
Speaker 1: male rapper that comes from our community to do, if
Speaker 1: you want people to really give you a shot, right,
Speaker 1: the go to his wealth. A lot of people would
Speaker 1: say violence, It's not if you able to posture on
Speaker 1: your Instagram with with racks of money, you know, with
Speaker 1: Ferraris and Batley's. If you if you're able to posture
Speaker 1: with Roleggus, big chains and all that, you immediately gonna
Speaker 1: gain our attention because the basis of our situation is poor.
Speaker 1: You know, we just poor. So we're looking for somebody
Speaker 1: to lead us into success. That's that's just the natural thing.
Speaker 1: It funk rap. You could just be in the hood
Speaker 1: for me. If somebody gets some money, like, look, I wanna,
Speaker 1: I wanna, I want to help you, You're gonna follow
Speaker 1: that person because you want to feed your kids and
Speaker 1: be down to I'm sorry, I think it's the same
Speaker 1: dichotomy man, sort of that creates a Takashi six nine
Speaker 1: though though na no say that, and that's really what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna push back. I mean, I was agreeing with
Speaker 1: what what Glass said. Um, it's always the wealth or
Speaker 1: the sparation of wealth that gets him. Never if you look,
Speaker 1: if you look at it for fifty cent two d
Speaker 1: M or from DMX toft cent to Takashi six nine
Speaker 1: and whoever else was in the middle, maybe a Rick Roys,
Speaker 1: not maybe not. I don't know. I don't know who
Speaker 1: the most like gangster guy from the South was I apologize, um,
Speaker 1: but like if you look at the entire you know,
Speaker 1: Birth against the Rap on the West Coast, every time
Speaker 1: it happens, it's like it just happened. So that's so
Speaker 1: like violence scares people. So when the violent guy breaks through,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, well, it's the gorilla off the cage, now,
Speaker 1: the lion off the cage that Glances spoke about earlier exactly,
Speaker 1: but it's painted like right, shout out because it's painted
Speaker 1: like he's just this vineer gangster. But that's not why
Speaker 1: America really got behind him or Tupac. When Tupac came
Speaker 1: over prison. Really we were related to them being the
Speaker 1: victims well, and we were like fifty we I think yes,
Speaker 1: with Tupac, I think with fifty it was the villain
Speaker 1: becoming the book. It was the it was the victim
Speaker 1: becoming the villain that we liked about fifty cents, what
Speaker 1: he rolls above it and and and dealt with his
Speaker 1: challenges or who we thought was people ain't you know,
Speaker 1: pring shot got fifty shot. That's just the natural. But
Speaker 1: the reality is I heard that's not even close to
Speaker 1: the truth. But it's irrelevant. What's it? But that's the
Speaker 1: that's the story that out here. Not Pring got shot. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure him rolling up to who we looked
Speaker 1: at as his bully, as this larger lite statue out
Speaker 1: of out of shod Queen's Philly is a big deal.
Speaker 1: Like we saw David versus Goliae. It just felt like
Speaker 1: we just looked at the toughest. No, we was looking
Speaker 1: at him like then he's standing up to the guys.
Speaker 1: Tulpact is standing up. You know. He painted his bullies
Speaker 1: as you know, him getting shot. So he made bigg
Speaker 1: and Puff. Even though he would say in clear words
Speaker 1: bigger and Puff had nothing to do with me getting shot,
Speaker 1: people still didn't hear that he said in the vibe
Speaker 1: of he said, if I thought bigger shot he said,
Speaker 1: when he said Biggie and Puff got me shot, they
Speaker 1: said me not not the one he's in jail. I'm
Speaker 1: talk about the one, the one of the last ones
Speaker 1: I sent it to you. He has made over and
Speaker 1: over multiple times that them nigga, isn't that have nothing
Speaker 1: to do with me getting shot? He said it, But
Speaker 1: people that they did minutes that the interesting this, But
Speaker 1: I think what it is on a different level. No,
Speaker 1: we find ourselves rooting for underdogs. So if you could
Speaker 1: paint yourself as the underdog, right where when Pot came home,
Speaker 1: he painted himself as the underdog. He gave you like
Speaker 1: before he had bigging and puff, remember it was uh
Speaker 1: Maxine Waters and see the Lord's Tucker. Like he knew
Speaker 1: how to make when he told his story, like he
Speaker 1: always gave you. You know, he always gave you, uh
Speaker 1: somebody that was against him, the world on this album
Speaker 1: before you know, down before he passed away, and the
Speaker 1: world he always made. He knew how to make. He
Speaker 1: could always tell the story of triumph. I mean like
Speaker 1: he was being in a situation in that squad, in
Speaker 1: that conflict and then that you gotta remember with Tupac,
Speaker 1: it's almost like his his life is like a movie.
Speaker 1: You see the story of his legend being created. You know,
Speaker 1: he was in Atlanta, he shut off through the police
Speaker 1: officer in the ask that was working with another brother.
Speaker 1: That's when it kind of started to me for me,
Speaker 1: you know, seeing him just do the things. Tupac would do,
Speaker 1: things that Black America kind of cheer for, Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he was shut off through the police officer in the ass.
Speaker 1: He's done this. He's spitting the cameras and ship. He
Speaker 1: was just such a polarizing figure, doog that you couldn't
Speaker 1: help but get he couldn't help garner attention. But that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But the same thing. That's act of
Speaker 1: his time for sure. But no, no, his time, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but yeah, he was. He was great. Look,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm saying that, Nigga is that Nick.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody else been able to? Does that? Stopped being
Speaker 1: Alonzo when camera's called cuts? Never stopped being Bishop. He
Speaker 1: stayed in character. I'm gonna tell you. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. Mons is a right gene.
Speaker 1: Me and Big Psych were But like me and you
Speaker 1: are sure he told me man, he told me that
Speaker 1: one that he said Pop got stuck in the Bishop character.
Speaker 1: But I think he also dealt with things that made
Speaker 1: him be stuck there. Well did you see that the
Speaker 1: interview video I sent you about him? Yeah? That was crazy.
Speaker 1: And you know what's funny. I feel so bad for
Speaker 1: the Huge brother man because people tell that story and
Speaker 1: you see, like people who call himself pop fanatics cheering
Speaker 1: it on like, Bro, it's not like that was another
Speaker 1: situation where he got packed out by popping forty crips,
Speaker 1: you know, rolling forty crips like this is this is
Speaker 1: kind of that was messed up. Yeah, but that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He jumped on that director with all of
Speaker 1: them rolling forty cripts. That was crazy. But that's what
Speaker 1: Psyke told me. Me and Big Psych was on the
Speaker 1: whole plane ride going by. We was on the plane
Speaker 1: for eighteen hours together, Bro, and he talked to me
Speaker 1: and told me stuff about I wish to this day
Speaker 1: I would have had a zoom with something man to
Speaker 1: record that conversation because it was just so in debt
Speaker 1: Man pop literally lexst on every gangster he's ever made,
Speaker 1: he least on the Bob right, and if he could
Speaker 1: have claimed forty crypt and Bob to put him on
Speaker 1: forty to be the dealer. Um, I think Tupac was
Speaker 1: always looking for a family. Though I'm being real with you,
Speaker 1: I believe you. I'm not I'm laughing because gang gang
Speaker 1: banging is super enticingve. Yeah, because if he could have
Speaker 1: if a b I told him, I'm putting you on
Speaker 1: quoting you on forty crip. He had been excited, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go do it, and he would have rolled for him.
Speaker 1: When he got around Big Site, he started claiming i VC.
Speaker 1: When he got around the other cats, he started claiming.
Speaker 1: He started claiming this. Then when he got the death row,
Speaker 1: it was just natural he would have got mob tattooed
Speaker 1: on him. Tupac has been a crip, he's been a blood.
Speaker 1: He's probably been I'm I'm pretty sure if we found
Speaker 1: the right Mexican we can find out he don't claim
Speaker 1: that states. I'm telling you, dog, Tupac was the gee.
Speaker 1: That's why people get mad. Nobody ever wants Clark Kemp
Speaker 1: to have a pimple dog. What is happening right now? Truth? Truth,
Speaker 1: It's the truth, though that nigga don't claim every game
Speaker 1: in the l A could. When he was Bob, he
Speaker 1: wanted to be a forty crib when he was with
Speaker 1: when he was with Psych, he was from IBC when
Speaker 1: he was from this though. I'm just being real, bro,
Speaker 1: I love Tupac. That don't make me stop loving him.
Speaker 1: But he was a guy that wanted to be a
Speaker 1: part of it. He was caught up in the lure
Speaker 1: of gang banging dog Gee, I'm gonna tell you gee,
Speaker 1: game banger No, I said, I don't think it's unfair
Speaker 1: about and I know I'm gonna get a bunch of
Speaker 1: back last y'all stay because I block motherfucker's that can
Speaker 1: we blur my face out because I don't want to
Speaker 1: be located in the same cube as that. Let me
Speaker 1: get this. I'm owned every Tupac over there. I owned
Speaker 1: every physical Tupac album. I love Tupac, but it's the truth.
Speaker 1: But what happened with Tupac is no different than what
Speaker 1: happens to every other guy that gets around game bang.
Speaker 1: How many times have you seen people that don't have
Speaker 1: them to do a game banging? They get around it.
Speaker 1: They're in the cars, they see the girls, they see
Speaker 1: the lower riders and stuff like that. Then they want
Speaker 1: to be a part of it. They want to be
Speaker 1: a part of the danger. Bro, I'm not in this.
Speaker 1: You're not lying. I'm not. I'm just not. That's that
Speaker 1: the first. That's the first conversation that we ever had
Speaker 1: the glasses because because because I made an art piece
Speaker 1: that tells the cultural morality of games. The truth. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not a second everything, but I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if I go put prayer hands under
Speaker 1: like a Tupop Pitcher, not you made fun you don't
Speaker 1: like to like every time. So I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: shit about that. Not not people got the people like
Speaker 1: Glass quiet man, because if I give my opinion on that, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know Tupats, so I can't really kind of
Speaker 1: talk about I would tell you a truth story. Still
Speaker 1: is that day age group, so he knows I would
Speaker 1: tell you this, bro. I forget the name of the
Speaker 1: club that used to be by L a X. It
Speaker 1: was a club right outside of L a X. Everybody
Speaker 1: used to come in there, Yeah, the Century Club. When
Speaker 1: with When with Goodie my first star Pop And it
Speaker 1: was there when Biggie I met every rapper in the
Speaker 1: universe almost in that club, dog messing with Bodkat right,
Speaker 1: that was his hangout spot. I saw a dude approach
Speaker 1: Tupac at Crazy like you did in that movie, because
Speaker 1: Boomley would wounded. Whomp and Pop was just kind of
Speaker 1: looking at him, not like he had furious size, but
Speaker 1: almost at all, like he was intrigued, Like I'm actually
Speaker 1: being attacked accosted by a gang banger right now. You
Speaker 1: have to remember Park was an expert actor dog, and
Speaker 1: I think he took that road dog and he rolled
Speaker 1: with a dog until it was just the King too
Speaker 1: lately put his hands on the wrong motherfucker and he
Speaker 1: was out of here. I'm I'm getting it's crazy. I
Speaker 1: will never ever be able to even fully embraced the
Speaker 1: thought of Tupac because everything around him is in such
Speaker 1: chaos and turmoil, like no one's ever been able to
Speaker 1: be honest about Tupac. Right, we called and me neither.
Speaker 1: But we call civilians. We call civilians tax pain civilians.
Speaker 1: We have the nerve to call them snitches for doing
Speaker 1: what the fun they're supposed but nobody ever, but everybody
Speaker 1: gets mad when I called Tupac rat free tax on.
Speaker 1: When me and tax started saying Tupac was rat, we
Speaker 1: was bad guys, Biggie and puff him. He didn't do that, sure,
Speaker 1: we know that. But what is it called when somebody
Speaker 1: who says they're a gangster you did like the guy
Speaker 1: from Boston, say like Whitey Bulge, or he just threw
Speaker 1: it un investigation on another guy. Still that's still snitching.
Speaker 1: That's not glasses, no, because they're not gonna get in cars, right,
Speaker 1: they didn't do that. No, no, no no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: I would go to mention Tupac is. If we start
Speaker 1: looking at the beginnings of New York City's Hip hop Police,
Speaker 1: I think it begins with Tupac blaming Puff and Biggie
Speaker 1: for him being shot. Tupac got cubed because he was
Speaker 1: on some fake game banging ship. Oh man, he was
Speaker 1: on the real game severe episode. I don't think me
Speaker 1: and you understand the repercussions he was because Hey, I've
Speaker 1: been in the hotel with him, bro, I would attack
Speaker 1: with his ass as soon as that running attack with
Speaker 1: his ass, like you don't get involved in this. Tupac
Speaker 1: understood the repersention, He understood the repercussions for that squad.
Speaker 1: We just chose to do what he's gonna do anyway sometimes,
Speaker 1: and that's respectable. I can respect that part, right, even
Speaker 1: if you fake, I can respect that part. Right. It's
Speaker 1: the part that says, what about the other ship, everything
Speaker 1: that we everything that you would dan emasculating, disrespectful, snitching,
Speaker 1: everything that we would say other people doing it would
Speaker 1: be all these other terrible things. Tupac did it, got
Speaker 1: away with it. Didn't snitch on my body. That's not
Speaker 1: what What is it called? If you say, hey, those
Speaker 1: people over there did this to me, what is it?
Speaker 1: Didn't say that I have We could all pull up
Speaker 1: the Vibe magazine interview. We cause I remember a Vibe interview.
Speaker 1: He said, if I had something to do with me
Speaker 1: getting shot, this is snitching. That's not snitching. Low he said,
Speaker 1: he they didn't. You're talking about the last one that
Speaker 1: nobody else knows about. I've told me when I saw
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the one where he was in jail
Speaker 1: and said them, nigger shot me. We have multiple I
Speaker 1: need to see that. Multiple need to see what Tupacs said.
Speaker 1: That was even put into the movie they did. Thank you.
Speaker 1: We have multiple records of him saying, yeah, y'all shot me.
Speaker 1: I'm coming back with y'all. I can't believe you, but
Speaker 1: y'all is somebody. It doesn't matter who it is. He said,
Speaker 1: he's a gangster. He is a at the time, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what game he was. He was a
Speaker 1: gang member. I was not a gangster. He was. He
Speaker 1: was he was, he was a gangster. He was And
Speaker 1: he kept saying he cannot I'm not disagreeing man. He
Speaker 1: was throwing up to let him recognize long beats, the
Speaker 1: rose crams. I'm not saying. I'm not saying this is
Speaker 1: your glasses low is becoming No, no, no, no oh no.
Speaker 1: I'm just keeping it the bean. I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: even when I made. Whatever I do, I'm just gon
Speaker 1: keep it real. But no, I'm saying one he didn't.
Speaker 1: I've never seen him say bigg In Puff shot me, Ye,
Speaker 1: pull it up. I'm pull it up. I think that
Speaker 1: really is on video. But I was insinuated, and everybody
Speaker 1: assumed that. I think that was part of his market strategy.
Speaker 1: When he came home, not only did Tupac claim Biggie
Speaker 1: was behind the shooting, but he argued that Biggie style
Speaker 1: was a rip off of his own. That's the thing
Speaker 1: that he said. He also said, he said, both, where
Speaker 1: is the show me shot? Ever? Show me? Yeah, okay, listen,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna show me what, show me what?
Speaker 1: Puff show me what Biggie and Puff show me what
Speaker 1: Pox said bigg and Puff had me shot. I'm not
Speaker 1: believe that you gotta show me that. I never heard that.
Speaker 1: And I remember that beef how started all the way
Speaker 1: to the why did they have beef again? What do
Speaker 1: you mean? I'm telling you Pop understood when he went
Speaker 1: to jail. When he went to prison, he started reading books.
Speaker 1: He started understanding how valuable and how special war was.
Speaker 1: So he created villains. He created people that he can
Speaker 1: rise up against and have people. Michael Jordan and last
Speaker 1: day who Tupac now, Michael Jord he's just making up
Speaker 1: stuff too, Yes, yes, bigging and Puff. He knew bigg
Speaker 1: and Puffy had him to do with him getting shot.
Speaker 1: He even said it disagreeable. Why did he say it?
Speaker 1: When you say things? I never said that. He just
Speaker 1: said things and group people together. He always knew who
Speaker 1: was responsible for him and for him getting shot for
Speaker 1: holding hold up, hold up. First off, mouse, me and
Speaker 1: you know why he can't say nobody shot him. Now
Speaker 1: we know why him Now me and you know why. No,
Speaker 1: he can't say nobody yo shot him. So first off,
Speaker 1: for sure, he didn't say Biggie Puff shot him because
Speaker 1: Tupac got shot because he owed the nigga money. We
Speaker 1: all know that. Right here goes uh Tupac. Tupac claims
Speaker 1: that uh Puffy and Biggie and Jimmy Henchman looked guilty
Speaker 1: and surprise and show. Even though Puffy said they showed
Speaker 1: him nothing but love and concerned, Tupac believed that this
Speaker 1: was not a random attack. He said, it was like
Speaker 1: they were mad at me. That is not insinuating that
Speaker 1: they shot him. Alright, alright, that's not and that's just
Speaker 1: me pulling up article. There's full interviews with this nig
Speaker 1: is sitting on camera. Yeah, Biggie and Puffy they shot me.
Speaker 1: They did. He never said that, you like and it
Speaker 1: did all that and then got on and then did
Speaker 1: all that and did that on record. You a gangster,
Speaker 1: you a whole whatever. He said they shot him on record,
Speaker 1: he said, I took five shots. I took it a smile.
Speaker 1: Five shots couldn't drop me. I took it a smile.
Speaker 1: Not I'm about the second. And now I'm about to
Speaker 1: set the record straight. Like he never said Biggie and
Speaker 1: Puff shot him. Ever, Pup didn't shoot him. We all
Speaker 1: know who shot pop. One thing. We know that Biggie
Speaker 1: did not shoot him. We know that we all did
Speaker 1: say Biggie and shot me. And if the he said
Speaker 1: had me shot, which is still he never said they
Speaker 1: had me under the law under consumes never said they
Speaker 1: had me shot murder. He did not say no. He
Speaker 1: didn't say that. He did not say they had me shot.
Speaker 1: They asked us a question. This maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: more clear. Did he say anything that resulted in the
Speaker 1: investigation of those two men. Yes, and that is where
Speaker 1: the hip hop police started. No, no, no, last I'm
Speaker 1: so disappointed to you right now though never he never
Speaker 1: in life said that. That's y'all. Y'all can't pick you
Speaker 1: didn't answer this questions not about me. I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: it a being straight row like with the fact I'm
Speaker 1: not keeping the being to all this ship was saying,
Speaker 1: don't you never tell me one time where said how
Speaker 1: do we know who shot him? Name? See, how do
Speaker 1: we know who shot up? Got his stuff? And everybody
Speaker 1: know Park shot itself the things. Park didn't shoot itself dog.
Speaker 1: But the niggat that came in then robbed and was
Speaker 1: removing them shoes because he owed the motherfucking money. Ain't
Speaker 1: that's point but that that don't have nothing to do.
Speaker 1: They where the Biggie and Puff Daddy Sean camp where
Speaker 1: the Sean Corey Combes and Christopher Wallace where did their
Speaker 1: name get attached to tupac Amori, scors shooting? How did
Speaker 1: those names all come together? Because puff so one thing
Speaker 1: that you're not being honest with. It's punch strategically released.
Speaker 1: Who shot crime? He didn't commit. That's what happens. Listen,
Speaker 1: was just being clever with the marketing. No mouse, No,
Speaker 1: everybody is taking advantage of the marketing. Who shot you
Speaker 1: came out after the fact. He was already shot. The
Speaker 1: song was coming out no matter what that they do
Speaker 1: not pull it back. They didn't even that was the Nati.
Speaker 1: There wasn't they can pulling records back. You definitely, How
Speaker 1: does thing move me? You know there was a lot harder.
Speaker 1: They took advantage of the opportunity and you know it,
Speaker 1: and that's fine. I liquid death is fire. Shout out
Speaker 1: the liquid them goa with that fire is how you know?
Speaker 1: You do f You know what? Shot? That sounds just
Speaker 1: like a promo now because that's the that's the water
Speaker 1: they got in the studio over fed. That water is
Speaker 1: gonna get me pulled over, leaving any bar any word America,
Speaker 1: drinking a tall can just to not even be bothered.
Speaker 1: I don't drink it. I'm not I'm not. All I'm saying.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is you know what fun what I'm saying. Man,
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