1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: K ladies and gentlemen. It's an emergency drop of me 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: eater podcast. An emergency drop. We did one of these 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: when the guy rescued the people out of the outhouse. 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: That wasn't an emergency drop, no, but it was an 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: American Hero. This is an emergency drop we have on 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: American hero Aaron Chin from Cornell University. If you're a 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: news buff, if you are a news buff, or if 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: you're a hunter, and you read your text messages a 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, around the week of September eighth, 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: I would say you probably got all kinds of people 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: texting you an article about some students from Cornell University 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: who were in trouble, out of trouble, getting in trouble 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: for having skinned a bear in their communal. 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: Hall at college. 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: Right now, I typed in Cornell black bear skinning into Google, 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: and I have the Cornell Daily Sun. 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm looking at an article there. 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm looking where it was covered in an op ed 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: in something called The Dartmouth and it's a person complaining 20 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: about them, saying that it's not what you're allowed to do, 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: it's what you ought to do, and it's the real 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 1: lesson behind this covered in the Ithaca Voice. Cornell students 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: found skinning bear in campus, NBC News two Cornell students 24 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: killed bear and skinned it back at blank a long 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: spirited reddit thing, People Magazine, People dot com. Two college 26 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: students killed one hundred and twenty pound bear. 27 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: I heard it was bigger. Yeah, Aaron, you don't have 28 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: the idea where the one twenty came from? 29 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: Do you? 30 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 4: No no idea? I was around around a one point fifty. 31 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 4: I know, I know how much my buddy weighs, and 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: you know I'll pick them up. 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: It's just, you know, a little lighter than that. 34 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: So wrong on dred and twenty pound bear. Here's an 35 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: outdoor life article. Here's a big discussion on rockslide. I 36 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: could go on and on, covered all over, and it 37 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: was one of those things that everybody sends me. The 38 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: article about the two kids at Cornell who were in 39 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: trouble or we're not in trouble for having dared kill 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: a bear on campus, or could not kill a beart 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: on campus, but kill a beart in process it in 42 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: a communal space on campus. And then as I followed 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: the story along for a couple of days, it turns 44 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: out that police game wardens the student handbook. It turns 45 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: out no one could find anything that was actually wrong. 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: I said to Krana, said, we have to talk to 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: these guys. With Diane to talk to these guys. So 48 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: here we have one of the butchers, Aaron Chin from Cornell. 49 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: We're gonna hear. We're gonna hear his story. We're gonna 50 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: hear about what it's like to all of a sudden 51 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: be part of a national news story, what it's like 52 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: to probably be real scared for a minute and then 53 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: feel relieved, and then what's the what's the next hunt plan? 54 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 2: But like, first, let's let's start off. 55 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: So you're at Cornell University, you're from You're from San Diego, California. Correct, Yeah, 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: what give me your hunting background? How did you get 57 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: started hunting? 58 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 4: So I didn't start until the very like tail end 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 4: of high school. I'm my parents, we we we never 60 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: really did that. We weren't really an outdoorsy family. But 61 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: that was something I was super into as a kid. 62 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 4: I'd read Bushcraft manuals and I'd watched these survival shows. 63 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 4: So I started shooting and shooting archery, thinking like early 64 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 4: middle school and whatnot. So I was that was always 65 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: kind of in the back of the mind. I shot 66 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: Olympic archery for the longest time. I started teaching that 67 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: performance archery, which primarily catered towards I mean that's where 68 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 4: the money is in the. 69 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: Archer's performance archery. 70 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: Mean, it's it's just the bow shop I worked at. 71 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: Oh I thought I made a discipline called performance archery. Yeah, yeah, 72 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: an archery shop. 73 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, And a lot of the guys were big bow hunters. 74 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 4: I was super curious, and I started shooting traditional archery 75 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: with kind of the hopes of being able to to 76 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 4: to hunt traditionally with with just a with a with 77 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: a bear bo And yeah, I went out a couple 78 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: of times in San Diego. Hunting in San Diego is 79 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: really difficult, all all public land. It's it's kind of 80 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: one of those things where you've got to get lucky 81 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: right time. There's not a lot of water there. So 82 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 4: I went out for turkey once and then and then 83 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: deer another time, but pretty much very little success, very 84 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: little experience. That's that's why part of the reason I 85 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 4: chose to to go to to Cornell One besides. 86 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: That really get engineering school. But you know, the proximity 87 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: of Wood. 88 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 4: I saw the deer Management program, and I'm like, I 89 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 4: can I can kind of learn all learn all the 90 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 4: skills and live live the lot, learn all the skills 91 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 4: that I wanted to as a kid. And now that 92 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 4: there's there's forests and there's there's state lands to do that. 93 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, there's a real Like we spent some 94 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: time on the campus recording some podcasts a couple of 95 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: years ago, and there's like a hunter's community. 96 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: There's like a hunter's community at Cornell m Yeah. 97 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: And so when you came out there, you guys, how 98 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: did you become aware of Uh. 99 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: So you're junior, third year? Is that right? Correct? 100 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: How did you become aware of spring black bear season? 101 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: Like? Like what did you dig into? 102 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: Like how did you how did it hit you that, like, 103 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: hey man, let's go out and let's go out and 104 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: do a little bear hunting. 105 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 4: You and your body saw it on the DC website, 106 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 4: you know, reading it through all the rules and the 107 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 4: seasons you can and and the biggest thing is when 108 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 4: I first got here. 109 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: Sorry not in spring bear season. Fall I'm sorry, fall 110 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: bear season. 111 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 4: Like you get everyone gets a black bear tag with 112 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 4: the with all their with all their accoutrements and and 113 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 4: and so when you. 114 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: Buy a hunting license, your issue to black bear tag. 115 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: Everyone gets a black Bear tag like a regular. Yeah. 116 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 4: So I was like, this, this could this sounds really cool. 117 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 4: And I saw I saw a recipe somewhere like like 118 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: black bear PASTRAMI I don't know where and eyes like that. 119 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: That sounds delicious. I mean, I love a. 120 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: Good on Ryan, like you know what, two and two 121 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: let's maybe really cool. I was reading them and at 122 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 4: this point I've got a rifle, so I was like, well, 123 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 4: this could be like a very realistic, realistic thing. 124 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: So I started looking looking into it. 125 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 4: And it's the first it's the first big game season 126 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 4: of the of the year. So we're like, all right, 127 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 4: you know, tests aren't going too crazy, academics are pretty chill. 128 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 3: Let's let's let's get her down. Let's figure it out. 129 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: And and you and your hunting partner, you guys go 130 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: out and you guys are hunting public land? 131 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: Is that right? Yes? 132 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: Public land? 133 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: And how did you how did you kind of hit 134 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: on Like here's the spot, here's what we're gonna try, 135 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: here's where we're gonna hunt. 136 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: Like lay that out for me. 137 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of research, a lot of 138 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 4: e scout in so I'd look at the d C 139 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 4: kind of they have the bear harvest reports where so 140 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: I was looking at the regions where they have the 141 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 4: highest you know, uh bears reported and for one hundred 142 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 4: square miles from there, I look, I look what's closest 143 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 4: to the university because we're full time students essentially, so 144 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 4: where's the closest state forest. 145 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: That we can we can hunt? 146 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: And from there reading articles, figuring out like, well, they're 147 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 4: going to be they're gonna be berry trying to get 148 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: fat for the winter. So I honed in on a 149 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: on a piece of piece of state forest and I 150 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 4: started looking for water features. That was the biggest thing, 151 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: swamps where where I think we're like berries and and 152 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 4: and shrubbery that they'd be foraging on. And then we 153 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 4: went there Friday. We we right after classes, we went 154 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 4: out and the first thing, yeah, we went out. We 155 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: we we scouted, and then the next day we we 156 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 4: kind of set up and figured it out. 157 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: And when you guys set up, you and your hunting body, 158 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: when you guys set up, did you guys set up 159 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: in blinds or were you trying to like still hunt. 160 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: You're trying to do a stand hunt, like what was 161 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: your strategy? 162 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: Still hunting? 163 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 4: So the day before on Friday, we found like fresh bear, 164 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 4: bear shit and tracks everywhere. 165 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: So we're like, all right, this. 166 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 4: Is the spot we're gonna bed down the next morning, 167 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 4: because you know, we're just season hadn't open open yet, 168 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: we're just looking around. So essentially there was a little 169 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: like a grove or like a like a there's a 170 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 4: little clearing and there was a there's some shrubs in 171 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 4: the middle of it. So that's where we saw kind 172 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 4: of like paths and they're still uneaten berry. 173 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: So we decided the next morning, you know, you're looking 174 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: at an active feeding area, okay, yep, And you guys 175 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: set up and it was that and it was the 176 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: was it the first day of the season that you 177 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: guys got a bear? 178 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: Yep? First day okay, like like like nine o'clock. But 179 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: we didn't get it. 180 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 4: In that clearing, we heard we heard scratching and and 181 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: like climbing in a pine grove about like one hundred 182 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 4: yards to the side. So we moved out to there. 183 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 4: We waited in our first position, we moved out. We 184 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: sat there for a good amount and then we we 185 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: lost track of it. There was a there's a pine grove, 186 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: and there was a. 187 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: Hill, like a really steep hill. 188 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 4: So we sat there for a good thirty forty five 189 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 4: minutes and we we stopped hearing the scratching. So we 190 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 4: thought to ourselves, a maybe maybe the bare clover clover 191 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 4: leafed around back to back to that original clearing. So 192 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 4: we go back and and we don't see anything. We're like, 193 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 4: all right, let's let's pack up. We'll go back out 194 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: in the in the afternoon. And just as we're rounding 195 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 4: a corner, my buddy he sees it. 196 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. 197 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: I'm behind this corner, so I just see him, you know, 198 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: his eyes go go full killer. 199 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 3: He chambers around, and I'm. 200 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 4: Like and I and I cover my ears because because 201 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 4: we've got a pretty good kind of know each other's 202 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 4: body langers, and I knew he wasn't he wasn't just 203 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 4: looking looking through And yeah, he pops off a shot 204 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 4: and we we he gets it was it. 205 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: Did you have a big track and job or did 206 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: you find it pretty quick? 207 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: Really really quick? 208 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: It was like a forty yard mac shot. 209 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: It was pretty close. 210 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: And then we're shooting one hundred and eighty green point 211 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: three o eight, So that that thing dropped pretty pretty fast. 212 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: Okay, now here's where things get interesting. You guys. You 213 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: guys live on campus, correct. 214 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: Okay, you don't have an apartment, you don't have house 215 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: you rent, you live on campus. 216 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: Had you even. 217 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: Had you guys got around of being like, well, here's 218 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: what we'll do if we get one. Or were you 219 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: just not even thinking about that yet and you're just 220 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: gonna take it as it comes, or did you have 221 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: like a if we get one, here's the butchering plan. 222 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 4: We thought about everything, we were and yeah, we're gonna 223 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: go to a buddy's place. But last minute, I think 224 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: he had some some emergency to tend to. So the 225 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 4: place we were going to do it closed off and 226 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 4: we were really paranoid that, you know, that the meat 227 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 4: was boil wanted to get it cooled as fast as possible. 228 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 4: We opened it up, but just to just to get 229 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 4: it all processed in a fridge as fast as possible. 230 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 4: So we're like, well, our one when one place was gone, 231 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: so might as well do it there. 232 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 3: And it was in the morning. I think it was 233 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 3: around like ten o'clock. 234 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so explain what this place is where you take it, 235 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: Like what on campus? 236 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 2: Like what is the place you bring the bear to? 237 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 4: Just there's like a communal kitchen on the on the 238 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 4: first floor of kind of the residential building. It's like 239 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 4: a really it's like a really really open space. There's 240 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: like a study tables and whatnot. But it looks more 241 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 4: like a like one of those those modern like a 242 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: like a like a coffee shop, a lot of space 243 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 4: and then and then concrete floors because we you know, 244 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: carpet would just be a dick move. 245 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: But it's meant for people to do their cooking. Okay, 246 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: So presumably there's a big table in there, and you guys, 247 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: you guys bring in you bring in the bear on 248 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: to the table. Correct who's around when you do this, Like, 249 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: like who's in the room. 250 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: There's not a lot of people. 251 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 4: There are a couple of people studying, but no one 252 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 4: really comes up and makes a big deal of it. 253 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 4: It's in the morning, Saturday mornings, so people are still 254 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: probably a beg humeover and whatnot. So we had a 255 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 4: couple of people just throughout our two three hours of processing. 256 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 4: They'd walk by people would you know, try to take 257 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: pictures or like just don't have us in there, and 258 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 4: most most people were super curious, like, hey, we'd love 259 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: to try something that's that's really interesting. We're explaining i mean, 260 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 4: the whole idea of stewardship and whatnot, and we were 261 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 4: aware it was going to be pretty graphic, but just explaining, hey, 262 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: this is this, none of this goes to waste. And 263 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: for the most part it was you know, people were 264 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 4: really really curious low foot traffic especially, and that's why 265 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 4: we chose to like, all right, we can. 266 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 3: We thought we'd get you know, yelled at by an 267 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: r A. 268 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 4: Maybe, but we we didn't expect it to blow up 269 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 4: to the extent of which it did. A. 270 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, So when you when you thought, okay, we're going 271 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: to go into the communal are we're going to go 272 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: into the dorm kitchen and we're going to process our bear, 273 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: you weren't having conversations like hey, this could lead to 274 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: very serious trouble and all this news attention. Like you 275 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: were just kind of doing what made the most sense 276 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: in the moment, and you figured anything that came up 277 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: would just you just be able to resolve it through conversation. 278 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 4: HM. We think we both thought that, you know, maybe 279 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 4: it'd be a like a little blurb, you know, people 280 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 4: talked about it. It was like, oh, that's that's kind 281 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: of that's kind of odd. But we didn't expect for 282 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 4: it to blow up. We we were really diligent in 283 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 4: reading all of the rules, you know, regulations, Like we 284 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 4: made sure we did everything by the book because we knew, 285 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 4: you know, we're gonna be under scrutiny. So hey, we're 286 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 4: gonna we're gonna clean up. We're gonna use you know, 287 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 4: bleach lysol wipes and whatnot. We're gonna we're gonna kinda 288 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 4: keep it, you know, public image where no no blasting 289 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 4: heavy metal or or or or music at all. 290 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: We're pretty we're thinking about that. 291 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 4: We didn't know it was gonna cause that much of 292 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 4: a backlash a day later. 293 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: But you knew it, Like but you knew the dorm 294 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 2: rules and the campus rules, and there's no thing saying 295 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: like thou shalt not process a big game animal in 296 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: community kitchen. 297 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: Yep, nothing nothing that said against it. You know. 298 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 4: We I even you know, labeled my my meat bags too, 299 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 4: because that's what they wanted. Later on, that would bite 300 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: me in the ass because people would be like, oh, 301 00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 4: we we figured it out. 302 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: You know where you know people get this kid? 303 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: Oh, because you're storing it in a communal freezer. 304 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 3: Kay, at the time being before I could get it 305 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: out to people off campus. 306 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: Indeed, Yeah, got it all right. 307 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: So Saturday comes and goes, you guys get your bear, 308 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: you get the bear processed, and then it winds up 309 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: being that Sunday night. What happens Sunday night, someone someone 310 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: finally says, I have to take a stand and report 311 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: these young gentlemen for having cleaned a bear in the dorm. 312 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: Something like that. So there's a there's a local Facebook group. 313 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 4: It's called I think Ithaca or Tompkin County Scanner Scanner Beats. 314 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: It's this one one guy who's just constantly monitoring like 315 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: police and fire radio. I used to be a volunteer firefighter. 316 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 4: So this guy like we're on en route to a 317 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: call and this guy pings up. It's like, this is crazy, 318 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 4: this is I think it gets like an old retired guy. 319 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 4: So he he Someone sends me a screenshot of the 320 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 4: page and like, huh, that's that's really interesting, and I'm 321 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: I'm I'm like shopping or something I'm not even on campus, 322 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: and they're like, CUPD is there. 323 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: There are our police department. 324 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 4: Oh ho. 325 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: The guy that monitors the scanner is saying, hey, law 326 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: enforcement is at Cornell And that's how you get word 327 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: that law enforcement is there. 328 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 329 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like they're acting endico. They're investigating back up 330 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 4: this klon. 331 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: And they're like, I wonder if this has to do 332 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: with me. 333 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 334 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: I was like, oh yeah, they said in the report 335 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 4: bear skinny. I'm like, what, everything's packaged up? It's everything 336 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 4: super cool. 337 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: I mean, that's how you became aware of this? 338 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, huh. Interesting. I go to sleep 339 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: Monday morning, it's like everywhere. 340 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, so that night you didn't go 341 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: down there that night to see what's going on? 342 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: No? 343 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: No, Because I was walking back after done shopping. They 344 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: were you know, there's nothing there. It's a Christine kitchen, 345 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 4: so we we want and there's there's there's. 346 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: Nothing like light splash and an ambulances and okay, okay, 347 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: So you wake up Monday and then what's going on? 348 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: It's all over like so I'm not I'm not sure. 349 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: If you're familiar with side chat, A lot of universities 350 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 4: have like a regional like social media and it's a 351 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 4: lot of the keyboard warriors and whatnot, and people have 352 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 4: started circulating pictures of the of the you know, the 353 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 4: bear of us processing it. We're people the day before 354 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 4: came up to take you know, ask you if they 355 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 4: could take pictures. We're like, we weren't sure about that, 356 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 4: like we know people were gonna do it. Anyways, there's like, hey, 357 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 4: just don't put us in it, and yeah, and then 358 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 4: it was it just it just overnight, just became a 359 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 4: huge sensation. 360 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: And at what point did someone want to come talk 361 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: to you? Though? Like what they what point did law 362 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: enforcement want to have a word with you? 363 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: I think it was. 364 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: Might have been Sunday night, Actually I don't. They're just like, hey, 365 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 4: we want to clear clear clear the clear the error 366 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: because they saw my my net idea on the package 367 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 4: meet and whatnot, like hey, we want to we just 368 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 4: wanted to hear yeah. And then and then I was like, oh, 369 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: I didn't think too much about it. And then Monday, 370 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 4: the whole like the world figured out. But PD was 371 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 4: super supportive. A lot of them are on the Deer 372 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 4: Management program. The guy officer I spoke with before. I 373 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 4: had a three hundred pound black bear on his game camera, 374 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 4: So who's talking about go hunting and whatnot. So they 375 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 4: just wanted to hear what was going on because I 376 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 4: you know. 377 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: So they look into it and I read that like 378 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: the game boardens are like, he's got a license. It's 379 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: bear season. It's a legal bear. The police departments like 380 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: these guys doing anything wrong. We didn't violate the student handbook. 381 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: But it seems like in the media covers there's like 382 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: somewhat of an expect there's somewhat of an expectation or 383 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: sense of surprise that there shouldn't be repercussions for this. 384 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's I guess it's just something that not everyone's 385 00:17:59,000 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 4: familiar with. 386 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 3: You know a lot of people there's the the rumor. 387 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: That it was a cub that was that was that 388 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 4: was the big thing, and people people, people started freaking out. 389 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 4: People didn't even know it was season. Like if you 390 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: look at on the online forums, people are you in and. 391 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 3: Like, well, no, it's legal. There people couldn't fathom. 392 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 4: That we drove like two hours to our to our 393 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 4: spot and drove back. There's just a lot of a 394 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 4: lot of internet discussion got it. 395 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, so people, yeah, like they're not educated about 396 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: the whole thing and something. They're eager that something must 397 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: be wrong here. M yeah, and that did did the 398 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: campus like who would be who's like the campus authority? 399 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: So did the campus authority at some point in time 400 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: coming to ask you any questions or say like how 401 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: did you clean up? 402 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: Or where's the bear? 403 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: Now? 404 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: None of that happened. 405 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, none of that happened at one point because of 406 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 4: the news coverage. I think when the students support people 407 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 4: reached out. They're like, hey, we're here. We know you're 408 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: probably you know, if you're going through a stressful time, 409 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 4: we're here. It's like it's a game if I if 410 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 4: I if I if I, if I hang myself or something. 411 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 4: They don't want to get to. But they were, you know, 412 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 4: university was super. No one said anything. 413 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: I mean, we didn't. We didn't. We didn't do anything wrong. 414 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: I heard through like that, you know, dean and vice 415 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: princident president was contacted at some point, but they're like, 416 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, we were we were just we're 417 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 4: just we're just doing what we were doing, you know, So. 418 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: We reached out. I don't I don't. 419 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't want to name. I 420 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: don't want to say who. We reached out. We reached 421 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: out to contacts we have. That's not be hard to solve. 422 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: We reached out to contacts we have at Cornell. The 423 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: contacts we have at Cornell had were just thrilled by. 424 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: It's so great to know that there's still kids that 425 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: know how to do this kind of stuff. Just goes 426 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: to show the caliber of the students we have. You know, 427 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: someone's like, oh, they they might be interested in my 428 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: program at the school, and they're like, but I don't. 429 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: We didn't want to didn't want to give names out, 430 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: so it was kind of like, well, we'd have to 431 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: check and make sure it's okay, Like I can't just 432 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: send you their contact information. But it was like, no 433 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: one know, No one that that Krinn communicated with, our producer, 434 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: no one that Kriinn communicated with expressed anything other than like, oh, 435 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: that's cool, let me see if I can find them 436 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: for you. Uh and so you know, all's well, that 437 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: ends well, but let me ask you this, Like let's 438 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: say you know, later in the fall, Okay, you get 439 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: a deer m do you do the deer. Do you 440 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: process the deer in the communal kitchen or have you 441 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: had enough? 442 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 443 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 4: Hell no, My buddy is like a bunch of people 444 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 4: opened their doors. They're like they saw that. 445 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: What happened. 446 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 4: They're they're like, all right, all right, all right, You're 447 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 4: a lot of people open their doors. I'm super great. 448 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 4: People reached out and they to the organizations that I've known, 449 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: I'm affiliated with, and they. 450 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 3: Hate there were We're always here. I mean, of course 451 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: the Keyboard Warriors. 452 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 4: And the and the Basement people have been been overwhelmingly supportive. 453 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 4: I mean we were talking about love labovo Ornithology last year. 454 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 4: They they let they were gracious, and Mary Margaret it's 455 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 4: been super helpful with helping me clean my my my 456 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 4: schools with germistic beatles and professor Keith Timball on Facebook 457 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 4: kind of really respected figure defending you. 458 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 3: Know, I'd hear construction workers too. 459 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 4: I remember when it was with when I was high 460 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 4: point talking about it, I'm like, wow, okay, this is 461 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 4: this is the talk of the town. And for the 462 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 4: most part, people in the real world have been pretty 463 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 4: pretty supportive. 464 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's not that so you're not going to 465 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: go back to the dorm. But it's not because you're scared, 466 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: it's because you got better options. 467 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty pretty much. And then you know, I don't 468 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: want part two happening. I mean that's kind of asking 469 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 3: for it. 470 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I got you. So would you say 471 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: that in hindsight? 472 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: Do you feel that in hindsight are you glad you 473 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: did what you did because it advanced this conversation or 474 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: do you feel like it like like it put. 475 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: This thing out there to test and you kind of. 476 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: Learn from the experience and it gave you sort of 477 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: a snapshot of you know, your university, your community. Right, 478 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: that's one approach, or you could have the approach of 479 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: staying In hindsight, I really could have done without all 480 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: the distraction. 481 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: I shouldn't have gone process my bear at the dorm. 482 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: I'd say a little bit of both. 483 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 4: I think I should have been a little bit more. 484 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 4: I should have I should have prepped for the worst 485 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 4: and and realized that some people would you know, would 486 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 4: would would would blow up. I didn't think it would 487 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 4: become that that large. And definitely if we probably do 488 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 4: in the woods next time, but also that like looking back, 489 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 4: no regrets for what we did, how we conducted ourselves, 490 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 4: like the fact that we thought about the implications and 491 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 4: we were we went through were very considerate of just 492 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 4: our etiquette and kind of how we conducted ourselves when 493 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 4: we were processing. 494 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 3: I think there's a little a little bit of both. 495 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: So yep, I'll tell you why I like you, guys. 496 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: It's not you cut that bear up in the dorm. 497 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: What I like about it is you come. You're from 498 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: somewhere else, you come to New York, you find out 499 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: there's a bear season, You do the work, you scout, 500 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: you spend time online, you do the research, you make calls. 501 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: A lot of guys would be like, you're never going 502 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: to get a bear. Why even bother, I'm not gonna 503 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: go out. You're never gonna get a bear, blah blah blah. 504 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: You ignore all that and you go out and you 505 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: had success. That's cool. Love to see it, man, like 506 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: your American hunting elbow grease dude. So I love it. 507 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I was so thrilled to see as I 508 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: followed the story along, I was so thrilled to see 509 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: that nothing bad having you guys. I was thrilled to 510 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: see the way people are, like, hey, man, this kind 511 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: of stuff should or some people in our world or like. 512 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 2: This kind of stuff should be celebrated. 513 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: Like you know, they're they're producing food for themselves or 514 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: taking responsibility. They're they're staying in accordance with the law. 515 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: It advanced the conversation. Everybody got a little smarter about everything. 516 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't think I'm going out on a 517 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: limb when I say you're an American hero. 518 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. See he's the world. 519 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: True American hero in fact, Aaron Chin, thank you for 520 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: coming out, man. I love hearing your story and tell 521 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: congratulations to your to your hunting partner, the trigger Man, 522 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: and I'm glad for you guys, and I can't wait 523 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: to hear about your next hunting adventure. 524 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate it. 525 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 2: Well, I did appreciate it. Uh, good luck to your studies. 526 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: You've got a couple more years ago than you're going 527 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: to be entering the engineering field, so that's good. 528 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: Okay, Thank you man. Good luck with school.