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Speaker 1: Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I and

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Speaker 1: Matt's and today we're talking about biking more to get rich. Yeah, Joel,

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Speaker 1: you a long time listeners will know that biking is

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Speaker 1: a huge part of our lives. We talked about it

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Speaker 1: a good bit here on the show, but I feel

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Speaker 1: like recently we haven't talked about it. It was certainly

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Speaker 1: on our minds way back when when we first started

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Speaker 1: the show, because our very first episode was about biking.

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Speaker 1: But now it's been multiple years since we've covered that

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Speaker 1: topics that we're going to revisit biking and talk about

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Speaker 1: all the different ways that it makes us. Richard, we

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Speaker 1: definitely talked about it some during the pandemic because biking

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Speaker 1: was hot, right and like, oh yeah, it turned out

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Speaker 1: at the beginning a lot of bike companies were like,

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Speaker 1: oh no, what are we gonna do? And then there

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, what we're gonna do is have to

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Speaker 1: like double our orders because everybody wants a bike right now.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we definitely covered that a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: we haven't kind of talked about the economics of biking

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Speaker 1: in the many ways that a bike can fit into

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Speaker 1: your life. It can save you money, but it can

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Speaker 1: do more than that. So we're gonna talk about all

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Speaker 1: that in this episode, and we're gonna talk about the

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Speaker 1: many different ways that you can realize a return on

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Speaker 1: your investment. Where YouTube bike more. And I've even called

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Speaker 1: bikes an actual investment before. Actually I think I use that. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I use that phrase to justify my bike purchase last year.

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Speaker 1: Remember I used my stimmy money to buy my little

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Speaker 1: gravel bike. Uh, And I called it an investment. And

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Speaker 1: I call you saying, you're kind of pushing it, buddy,

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Speaker 1: it's not quiet an investment. But we are kind of

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Speaker 1: using that language here because we feel that there truly

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Speaker 1: is a return on the money that you put into

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Speaker 1: your bike. Yeah. Yeah, and it goes beyond just money savings, right,

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Speaker 1: So that's right, there's a whole host of benefits we

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Speaker 1: get from biking. Yeah, all right, man, I got a

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Speaker 1: quick little story for you. So as a kid, I

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Speaker 1: think I've shared this before on the show, but anytime

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Speaker 1: my parents would ask for a discount, anytime they would

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Speaker 1: I was embarrassed. Like, as a little kid, I was

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Speaker 1: So on that note, let me tell you about how

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Speaker 1: I scored a bunch of free Halloween decorations and now

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Speaker 1: your kids can be thoroughly embarrassed by you, dude. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So you know, folks move and oftentimes will leave a

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Speaker 1: what I'm guessing was close to at least five worth

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Speaker 1: that stuff new from a Halloween store. Spirit right or whatever.

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Speaker 1: The pop up halloween stores are got like a full

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Speaker 1: even got some um what's that? It's like the liquid

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Speaker 1: that you put into a fog fog machine. We don't

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is even more of an incentive

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Speaker 1: they're not in bart school age so embarrassed by you.

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Speaker 1: But I guess I just want to point out how

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Speaker 1: I've grown. As a kid. Obviously I was so embarrassed

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Speaker 1: the lengths I go to save a buck, and I

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Speaker 1: hate seeing stuff on the side of the road that's

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Speaker 1: perfectly good go to waste. Right, you don't want the

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Speaker 1: city picking that stuff up, tossing it in the trash,

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Speaker 1: Like if it's usable, if it's useful, then yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: better to reuse it. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean there's a

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Speaker 1: it's all stuff that we will definitely use this coming Halloween.

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Speaker 1: But like you said, I'm glad to see that my

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Speaker 1: I believe they did. But if only middle school Matt

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Speaker 1: could see me. Now, congratulations on your Halloween decoration. Look

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Speaker 1: forward to the Halloween in our neighborhood is huge. We

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Speaker 1: everyone was on the fence, should we do Halloween, shouldn't

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Speaker 1: we do Halloween? And so I think Lrench stole freaking Halloween.

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Speaker 1: There exactly, but I think that means that this year

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be pretty huge. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to it already, especially with all the free stuff

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Speaker 1: we scored side of the Road, the resurgence of Halloween,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for all right, Well, Matt, let's move on.

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Speaker 1: Let's mention the beer we're having on the show. This

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Speaker 1: one is called double Fruited Boysonberry BlackBerry Raspberry Hill by

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Speaker 1: Southern Grist. So lots of different kinds of berries in here,

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Speaker 1: and apparently double fruited. So fruited I like lots of

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Speaker 1: of hand talking about bikes. You know what I just

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Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, man, it makes me think, like my

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Speaker 1: Like Triple A runs the numbers every year on what

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Speaker 1: muscles developing your legs. But the more fit you are,

429
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Speaker 1: you know, the better off you're gonna be. And riding

430
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Speaker 1: a bike is some top notch cardio. Not to mention

431
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,480
Speaker 1: too man, just the additional mental benefits that come with

432
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 1: riding your bike, right, just kind of getting out on

433
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Speaker 1: the road, the ability to well, first of all, like

434
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Speaker 1: when you I don't want to get to detailed here,

435
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 1: but like when you're in commuting by car, you're always

436
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,920
Speaker 1: like on the inter state typically right or state highways

437
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,560
Speaker 1: where there's a lot of congestion. But when you're riding

438
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 1: your bike, you're on like surface streets, like slower streets,

439
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 1: and you're not in traffic, so you can you get

440
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,640
Speaker 1: to just ride and and with that ride often comes

441
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,239
Speaker 1: like this mental refreshing that takes place. Yeah, I think

442
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,680
Speaker 1: there's definitely a physical health component and a mental health

443
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 1: component to riding bikes. Right, it's both. And again it's

444
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 1: hard to quantify like both of those, um and give

445
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 1: you any sort of specific number for how it's going

446
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,880
Speaker 1: to help. But biking definitely, I mean it's it's increased

447
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,879
Speaker 1: you know, my fitness level, um. And it's also just

448
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 1: made me feel better mentally, um Because I know, like

449
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 1: my wife would literally say, if I would come home

450
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Speaker 1: after biking home from work, or if I came home

451
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 1: after thirty minutes stuck in the car all the way

452
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 1: home from work, she was like, you're so much more irritable.

453
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Speaker 1: She could tell, she could totally tell an attitude difference.

454
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 1: So I walked through the door. I was more frustrated

455
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 1: as opposed to I just like burned off all that

456
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Speaker 1: steam on a bike ride. I might have been a

457
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 1: little bit tired, but I wasn't like angry. You know, hey,

458
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,959
Speaker 1: I'd rather be a little tired than angry. Yeah, exactly, exactly,

459
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 1: me too, And so I think, yeah to the next.

460
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Speaker 1: One of the next additional benefits of biking is that

461
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 1: it's fun, right. It really is, Like if you haven't

462
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Speaker 1: hopped on your bike in a while, you might just

463
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 1: assume that it's for kids, right, Um, watching stranger things,

464
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 1: like it's one of our favorite things, watching the kids

465
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Speaker 1: ride around the bikes, and you're like, all right, great,

466
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Speaker 1: that's like the perfect way for like seven to thirteen

467
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Speaker 1: year olds to get around in the late eighties. Exactly. Yeah,

468
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 1: you might think it gets today play of Minecraft, right, right,

469
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Speaker 1: and you might think that you're too old for that

470
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Speaker 1: or something, But that's just that's just not true, right.

471
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Speaker 1: We we see groups of riders around town all the time, Um,

472
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Speaker 1: and Matt. It's not like we're living in Copenhagen, Like

473
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Speaker 1: there's just literally I was going to pick up a

474
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Speaker 1: U haul truck downtown recently, Um, and there was this

475
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: massive group of bike riders and I just like smiling

476
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: the whole time as they're going back, because it was

477
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Speaker 1: like seventy or eighty people in one group, and I

478
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Speaker 1: don't know whether where they were riding to what they

479
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: were up to, but they're like they were having fun. Yeah,

480
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: and those kind of bikers too, are a little more serious,

481
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: you know, like they're I feel like those those folks sometimes.

482
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Speaker 1: Well that being said, I mean we we kind of

483
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Speaker 1: have like the critical mass groups where it looks like

484
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Speaker 1: like a bunch of hipsters. But then sometimes you have

485
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: like a bunch of boomers and they're you know, they've

486
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Speaker 1: kind of got like more of their biking outfits on

487
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: and whatnot. But either way, regardless of how old they are,

488
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Speaker 1: they're all having a ton of fun. I'd bike with

489
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Speaker 1: either one of those groups. Yeah, I feel like we

490
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Speaker 1: could easily fall into one category or the other. But

491
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Speaker 1: I might not necessarily wear spanex go biking. Hopefully one

492
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 1: of these days you might. Yeah, as we get older,

493
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I feel like that. Yeah, I

494
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Speaker 1: see those people riding and they're like joking and they're

495
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Speaker 1: talking to each other like it's it's still people are

496
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Speaker 1: able to enjoy riding together. You know, bikes don't have

497
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: to be isolating, and plus two, you can get places

498
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't otherwise be able to get when you're biking

499
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: versus being in your car. Right in Atlanta, Matt, we

500
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: have the belt Line, which is just this old railroad

501
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 1: track that's been converted to like, uh, just this fancy

502
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: walking path essentially walking a biking path that helps people

503
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: get around town, especially like a rails to trails program. Yeah,

504
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 1: and you can't drive a car on the belt Line,

505
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,719
Speaker 1: but you can ride your bike. And there are other

506
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: you could try to ride drive your car on the

507
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Speaker 1: belt line but probably get arrested. Yeah you cant big trouble.

508
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's just so many places that a bike

509
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Speaker 1: can take you, um and fun places that a bike

510
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: can take you that that car just can't. Yeah. It

511
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Speaker 1: makes me think of a recent listener question that we had.

512
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Speaker 1: They were asking about some just more affordable activities that

513
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Speaker 1: they could do with their friends that doesn't just involve

514
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Speaker 1: going to a restaurant, dropping a bunch of money, or

515
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Speaker 1: just going you know, meeting up at a coffee shops,

516
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: you know, spending way too much money on fancy coffees.

517
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Speaker 1: The act of riding a bike together is just you know,

518
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 1: can be so much fun and it makes me think

519
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: as well about traveling, right, Uh. Kate and I have

520
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Speaker 1: rented bikes before when we go to different cities that

521
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: we're exploring, and just traveling by bike is just a

522
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 1: fun way to get to know a city. And so

523
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Speaker 1: whether that means just a road trip where you throw

524
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Speaker 1: the bikes on the back of the car or you know. Again,

525
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: most cities have these bike share programs where you can

526
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Speaker 1: just pay a little bit and have access you know,

527
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: to a to a bike for like thirty minutes and

528
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,959
Speaker 1: that gets you from one place to the next. Remember

529
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Speaker 1: again doing that and having a blast doing that in

530
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Speaker 1: d C back of the day. It was an amazing

531
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Speaker 1: way to get to see all the different sites. It

532
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: helps us to get a feel for kind of the

533
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Speaker 1: mall and just all the different things that were there

534
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Speaker 1: in d C that we wouldn't have otherwise been able

535
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Speaker 1: to do. And so not only does it allow you

536
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Speaker 1: to experience a new location or a new city uh

537
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Speaker 1: in an awesome way, but it allows you to experience

538
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Speaker 1: your own neighborhood quiet a bit differently, uh, you know,

539
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: when you bike through it versus driving, like it allows

540
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: you to literally smell the roses. You get to experience

541
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Speaker 1: all the different smells when you're on a bike, and

542
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Speaker 1: you know, I even find myself waving at neighbors a

543
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: little bit more, even stopping to chat. When you're driving,

544
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: you're basically just kind of getting from one one place

545
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: to the next, you know, like anything that stands between

546
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: you and your destination is sort of a hindrance. And

547
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: if you do see somebody and you pull over, it's like, hey,

548
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: is everything okay? Like I feel like folks are like,

549
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: why did you stop? Or then there's another car coming

550
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: behind you and they're like, get out of my way. Yeah,

551
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: it's it's just like a nuisance. As opposed to just

552
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: being able to pull over on the bike, it's just

553
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: so much more fun. So bike can kind of gives

554
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: you this more visceral feeling for the place that you

555
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: call home, and it just fosters the type of community

556
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: that I know that we're looking for where we live. So,

557
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: for instance, like if they're going to add another lane

558
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: to a local road, I would be completely bummed out.

559
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: That just tells me there's gonna be more traffic, more

560
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: people cutting through. However, when I hear that there's gonna

561
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: be a new bike lane coming in, I get pumped.

562
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: Because I know that means there's going to be more

563
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: folks enjoying the neighborhood, talking to each other, treating each

564
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Speaker 1: other with respect, which is oftentimes hard to do when

565
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: you're driving around in these metal boxes. And sometimes it's like,

566
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: if you build it, they will come, And I think, yeah,

567
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: more bike infrastructure just means more people will then feel

568
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 1: comfortable because because sometimes that you know, that's one of

569
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Speaker 1: the excuses we're gonna get to a little bit later.

570
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: But when when there isn't enough of that infrastructure, it's

571
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: it's definitely it's a reasonable and understandable excuse. And I

572
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: think some you know, cities, prioritizing at is a good thing.

573
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: Absolutely makes it more comfortable to get that out there

574
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Speaker 1: on two wheels. Also, bikes are a big winner when

575
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Speaker 1: it comes to your ACKed on the environment, right, they

576
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: don't pollute the air, no fossil fuels are consumed. But

577
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: it goes beyond that, right, because noise pollution is a

578
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: big deal in a whole lot of cities. Too. Fewer

579
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: cars and more bikes cuts down on that. Bikes can

580
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: also reduce the need for car infrastructure like we're just

581
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 1: talking about, which can be costly it can be an eyesore.

582
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: So it can you know, create not just savings in

583
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: your own personal wallet, but citywide savings too. Like the

584
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: more bikes that are on the road, the fewer road

585
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: improvements that are gonna have to be done over the

586
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: course of years. So, yeah, bikes can be a big

587
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Speaker 1: deal when it comes to cutting down on pollution where

588
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: you live and cutting down on the budgets of some

589
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: of the municipalities where you live exactly. Yeah, So folks

590
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: might be saying, all right, Joel Matte, thanks for your

591
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Speaker 1: take on bikes. We know that you love bikes, but

592
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: I've got a few reasons that it's just not gonna

593
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: work for me. And so we've actually decided to kind

594
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: of do this preemptive strike to respond to whatever excuses

595
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: folks out there might have. And oftentimes I feel that

596
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: one of the excuses we hear folks give is that

597
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: they are transporting too much stuff. Okay't use my bike

598
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: for grocery shopping. Uh have you seen my last grocery run? Right?

599
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: Or I can't take the kids to school on a bike. Well,

600
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, it does depend on how much you're getting

601
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: at the store and how many kids you have. If

602
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: you're running up to Costco, it might be difficult to

603
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: load your bike up with, you know, a massive month

604
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: long run of Costco groceries. I will say, I'm not

605
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: taking my bike to cost Well, I mean we live

606
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: a long ways from a Costco so and that's a

607
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: reasonable excuse. But if you don't go to the store,

608
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Speaker 1: if you don't go to Costco all that often, this

609
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: isn't something that should be a deal breaker, right. Well,

610
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Speaker 1: we're also not trying to commence you to take your

611
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: bike on every single trip ever, like there is a

612
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: place for cars. We're just trying to convince you to

613
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: bike more exactly, and just as far as a basic

614
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: run to the grocery store. So say like the next

615
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: time I'm gonna go to Aldi, I'm likely gonna take

616
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: my bike. And the answer to how do I get

617
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: all that stuff home are paintier bags. There are a

618
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,479
Speaker 1: great way for helping you to transport loads of stuff

619
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: like the food that you just bought at the grocery store. Uh.

620
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: And then when it comes to kids, Joel, you and

621
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Speaker 1: I we both have cargo bikes uh, and they are

622
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: awesome for hauling small kids. I can get all three

623
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Speaker 1: of my rolls on our bike and you know, make

624
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: the runs of the different schools. So you know, I

625
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: feel like that this excuse that I'm transporting too much

626
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: stuff this kind of rates maybe like a four and

627
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: f tin for accuracy, because there are solutions to the

628
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: conundrum of transporting kids as well as other stuff. We

629
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: haven't even touched on the subject of getting bike trailers.

630
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: This isn't something that you and I have ever done,

631
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: but we see folks right and around with with bike trailers,

632
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: these little you know, trailers hooked up to the bikes

633
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: and allows them to haul all sorts of stuff. I've

634
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: seen folks do that at lows before, where they're loading

635
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: up plants for their yard on this little platform that's

636
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: got its own wheels that they hook up to their bike.

637
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: That certainly takes another level of commitment, but the option

638
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,239
Speaker 1: is out there. Yea. Where there's a will, there's a way, right,

639
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: And to see how some people in our town get

640
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: around via their bike pretty much in every circumstance, it's

641
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: like admirable. It makes me want to like even up

642
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: my biking game even more, right, And uh, I think

643
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: another matt popular excuse to people might give is I

644
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: can't show up sweaty to work. I've definitely heard of

645
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: this one before. People are like, oh, that's that's nice

646
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: to you bike, But I can't be sweaty and disgusting.

647
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: I've got a real job. Yeah, I've got important meetings

648
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: at not am, and so I cannot. I cannot do

649
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: what you do. But I think there's a solution for

650
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: that too. Write like, does your work have a shower?

651
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: Can you bring a change of clothes? Can you bike

652
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: a little slower? Like? All of those things are going

653
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: to help you show up without being just a sweaty mass,

654
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: right um. And I think also another solution is that

655
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: e bikes they're great middle ground for lots of folks

656
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: because you want to provide nearly as much exertion. They

657
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: really can be this perfect solution for a whole lot

658
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: of folks. I think that's part of why we're in

659
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: the middle of kind of an ebike boom, that people

660
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: are starting to adopt them because they're saying, actually, that

661
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 1: is going to fit from my lifestyle. I won't have

662
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: to be crazy sweaty by the time I get into work.

663
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: But at the same time, there's a little bit of help, uh,

664
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: pushing me along as well. Right, so I would read

665
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 1: this excuse me be like a three out of ten,

666
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: because there are ways to cut some of the sweatiness

667
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: out of your bike commute. You don't have to be

668
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: peddling like you would be in like a soul cycle class. Right,

669
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't have to do. Yeah, it doesn't.

670
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: You don't have to be going you know all out. Um,

671
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: you're still gonna realize a whole lot of physical benefits

672
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: just by biking at a moderate pace. Totally. Yeah. And

673
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: one of the other excuses to that we often hear

674
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: is that it just takes too long to get there

675
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: by bike. And you know, if you you commute like

676
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: over thirty miles on the interstate every day by car,

677
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: then you know this excuse is likely totally true. We'll

678
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: give you a pass, right. But it turns out that

679
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: the average speed of a car around town is eighteen

680
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: miles per hour, while the average speed of a biker

681
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: on a bicycle is fifteen miles per hour. Uh. There

682
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: is this study of bike commuters done in Leone, France,

683
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: and it found that bike commuters were faster during rush

684
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: hour than folks who were driving their car. So it

685
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: actually reversed the trend slightly there. And so if you

686
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: are one of those people who has a length of

687
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: interstate commute and instead maybe you're stuck in in town

688
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: traffic and you kind of keep telling yourself how much

689
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: quicker you are getting places in your car, to realize

690
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: that this is likely not true. Man. I found that

691
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: for me, just hopping on the bike and running an

692
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: air and up to east land of Village or running

693
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: to Aldi for us has been just about the same.

694
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna take about the same amount of time that

695
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: would take or I had to just jump in the

696
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: car and then some shorter runs they have to make,

697
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: like just running over to a place something like that.

698
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: I swear it would take longer for me to get

699
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: in the vehicle, get in the van, like backing up

700
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: out of the driveway, you know, drive down the street,

701
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: as opposed to just grab my bike and going. I

702
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: love the immediacy that biking provides. Not to mention the

703
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: lack of parking concerns, which can be in a lot

704
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: of in town areas, can be a real big deal

705
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: wherever you If you pull up on your bike instead,

706
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: it's like you go straight up to a bike rack,

707
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: you lock up and wh wherever you want. Man, you're

708
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: in the place of business where you're going, it just

709
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: makes it way easier. And and a lot of places

710
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: in in town Atlanta they're charging for parking now, and

711
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: so you save money that way too. Um and Matt.

712
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: I think another major excuses I can't bike here where

713
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 1: I live because the weather isn't good enough. You know,

714
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: where you live certainly plays a role in this excuse.

715
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: I don't mind biking when he gets really hot in Atlanta.

716
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: Like some people are like, oh, it's ninety five degrees,

717
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to bike, And I'm like, I don't

718
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 1: mind it, but I do hate biking in January, Like

719
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: I really don't like biking in the cold. I think

720
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm like more of the opposite, Like I don't mind

721
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: riding in the summer if I know I don't have to,

722
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, talk to anybody for like the next fifteen minutes,

723
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: because I just know I'm gonna be dripping sweat. Yeah,

724
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: just full on. But in the winter, I just, man,

725
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: just bundle up. I love the idea of knowing that

726
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: the exertion that I'm providing and like that that's fit

727
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: literally making me warmer, and like I feel like that,

728
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: just like, oh, it's like the natural order of things,

729
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: you know. I feel like if I lived in Minnesota,

730
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 1: I'd be a pathetic bike computer, but I'd still give

731
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: it a go. There's people who do that though. I

732
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: mean when Kate and I we visited Portland, Maine, and

733
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: we rented bikes from this this dude that has a

734
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: little bike rental company, and he was talking about he

735
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: lives across the river and even in the winter, in

736
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: the middle of the winter, he bikes to work. He

737
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: has a different job in the winter, because yeah, nobody

738
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: wants to rent bikes in the winter, but it's definitely

739
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: still possible. Yeah, But I think what people have to

740
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: realize is that there are lots of ways you can

741
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: come back the weather, right, Like including the gear that

742
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: you wear. A nice pair of gloves makes a huge

743
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: different for those cold weather rides. Remember, Like I was like, oh,

744
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: that's that's the first thing he gets called with your fingertips, Like,

745
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: you definitely gotta have some good gloves. There, a good

746
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: rain jackets set of rain pants so that you can,

747
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, ride in the rain without becoming like a

748
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: sloppy soggy mess. It really comes down to, in a

749
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 1: lot of ways, just getting some gear that's gonna help

750
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: you power through. And that gear maybe looks expensive on

751
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: its face, but yeah, when you when you talk about

752
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: not putting those mouths on your car or potentially being

753
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: able to get rid of a car, that gear is

754
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: incredibly inexpensive in the scheme of things. That's right. Plus,

755
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: even if you did get a little bit wet, I mean,

756
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: you're just sitting there working a little bit and you're

757
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: a little soggy, and your co workers might, like, you know,

758
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: talk bad about you. But if you if you don't

759
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: have like a client sort of facing job, what's that

760
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: matter if you're just like a little damp, whether it

761
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: be from sweat or the rain. Right, make sure both uh,

762
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: And you know you mentioned this a little bit earlier, Jo.

763
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: Just like kind of the lack of like bike lanes

764
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: or infrastructure that is often another common excuse that can

765
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: certainly make it a little tougher to commute by bike. Atlanta,

766
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: for instance, it's not known as a great city for biking.

767
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: But you know that doesn't mean that it can't be done. Uh.

768
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: And things are improving, right because folks like us support

769
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Bike Coalition and jel here's another thing. This

770
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: might sound drastic, but we even feel that it's worth

771
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: reconsidering where you live. We feel that the benefits of

772
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: biking are so massive that planning your housing in order

773
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: to live in a more bikable area can be worthwhile.

774
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: But maybe that's not the boat you're in. Maybe you

775
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: don't want to move. But even still, right, cars they

776
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: have to share the roads with bikes and so obviously

777
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: were a good fitting helmet. But then make sure that

778
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: you have lights to increase your visibility when you're on

779
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: roads that aren't necessarily made for bikers. You can still

780
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: be on those roads, but make sure you've got the

781
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: flashing red light on the back of your bike. Make

782
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: sure you've got a light on the front of it

783
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: that's super bright that also flashes. Being visible and having

784
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: an ability to see things on the road is hugely important,

785
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: especially when you're commuting on a daily basis to work. Yeah,

786
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: no doubt And Matt one final excuse I think I

787
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: hear people say, and it was it's probably an excuse

788
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: I gave back in the day, was like, well, I

789
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: don't want to wear Spandex. I don't want to look

790
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: like one of those goofballs, you know who's like I

791
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: said that earlier, but I feel like I truly could

792
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: see you one of these days, like getting the kind

793
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: of the Spandex get up. I'm so tall, it's gonna

794
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: look awkward, I think. But like, I don't necessarily consider

795
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: myself a quote unquote cyclist, Like I'm not going out

796
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: there like doing fifty mile rides on the weekend. That's

797
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: not my jam. It's kind of more of a to

798
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: and fro point A to point B device, or it's

799
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: a more practical approach. Yeah, exactly. And so I think, Yeah,

800
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: you don't have to adopt that lifestyle. You don't have

801
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: to be that person. You can just wear normal clothes

802
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: um and opt to ride a bike instead of driving

803
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: a car. You don't necessarily have to get into cycling culture,

804
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: uh too, in order to adopt that like more of

805
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: a bike loving lifestyle. Yeah, all you have to do

806
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: is just get on your bike and start like riding.

807
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: That's how you be Like for you, like that can

808
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: be cycling culture for you just see it as like

809
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: almost as like a way of life as opposed to

810
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: an activity. You know, it's not like something that you do.

811
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: You're not gonna go biking, although you can, and if

812
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: you want to, have to like put the bike on

813
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: the roof of your car and drive somewhere and then

814
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: take it off and then go for a rod. Yeah,

815
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of okay, instead of you know,

816
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: driving to the store, I'm gonna get on my bike

817
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: and to the store. It's a very unglamorous, like non

818
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: sexy way of embracing biking. But it's a way that

819
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: is going to save you serious money plus all the

820
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: other benefits that we've mentioned. So now that we've debunked

821
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: some of those different excuses, we've covered the different benefits,

822
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about how you can start incorporating biking

823
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: into your daily life. And we'll get to that right

824
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: after this break. All right, Matt, we're back. We've covered

825
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: a lot of benefits of biking so far, and we've

826
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: debunked some of the excuses. Maybe they're not as good

827
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: of excuses as we're previously thought to be. And now

828
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: somebody might be saying, well, I don't have a bike,

829
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: or my bike is old and it's crusty. I need something.

830
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: I need something new. Uh, And you know, I think

831
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: the mold leftovers in the fridge kind of kind of crusty.

832
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe your bike it needs a little

833
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: bit of work, or if you don't own one, maybe

834
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: you need to buy one. So let's kind of get

835
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: into that too, because yeah, you might need to get

836
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: out there on the market and find a bike, um,

837
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: so that you can make biking more of a regular

838
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: occurrence in your life. Right. And yeah, one of the

839
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: things it's important to mention is that you might be

840
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: able to fix up the bike that you currently own,

841
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: right if it's got a flat tire or the chain

842
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: is just rusty, those are pretty easy fixes. You can

843
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: maybe take it to your local bike shop or watch

844
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: a couple of YouTube videos. They're gonna help you figure

845
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: out how to do some of that minor work to

846
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: your bike yourself. So I wouldn't necessarily just discard the

847
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: bike that you've got without maybe you know, taking a

848
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: look and seeing if it's got some life lift in it.

849
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: But let's say you either don't have one, or or

850
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: your bike is past its prime and it's not gonna

851
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: work out for you. Buying a used bike is a

852
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: good way to go um. And you know, while biking

853
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: has gained quite a bit of steam during the pandemic,

854
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: a lot of new bikes were sold, bike companies experiencing

855
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: you know, record numbers of orders. I'm sure some of

856
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: those folks who got excited to get on their bike

857
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: are already tired of it, right, um. And they're more

858
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: likely to spend some of their money on travel now

859
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: that it's allowed, and they're like at the next hot things. Yeah,

860
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: they're maybe I can get five hundred bucks for this

861
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: thousand dollar bike I just bought, or you know, two

862
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: hundred bucks for the five dollar bike I just bought.

863
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: And so you might start seeing more listings popping up

864
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: on Facebook, Marketplace or Craigslist. So yeah, search those sites

865
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: in order to find a bike that's going to gonna

866
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: work for you. Of course, buying used is going to

867
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: saving more money than buying new, that's right. Yeah, So

868
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: obviously start with what you have already at home. But

869
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: if you don't have a good option at home, look

870
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: to buying used. But you can also buy new. You

871
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: can buy a new bike as well, right, that's not

872
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: a bad idea and you can do it well. Ari

873
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: I is a great place to buy a bike. This

874
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: actually again, that's where I purchased my bike last spring,

875
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: but I've also purchased a bike from bikes Directs. It's

876
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: just an awesome online site. I've had multiple friends purchased

877
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 1: bikes from them, and you can get a really great

878
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: deal because they offer great bikes at an incredible discount. Essentially,

879
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: it's yeah, there's no middleman. You're essentially buying straight from

880
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: the manufacturer themselves. And it does, I will say, it

881
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: does require a small amount of d I y, there's

882
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: a little bit of assembly required. But here is why

883
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm to convince you that that's a good thing. And

884
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: first of all, it's because it's not that hard. It

885
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: really just involves, uh, screwing some pedals, on cranking those,

886
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: on getting your handleball something together from my kea. You

887
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: can do this, I think exactly. I think so, uh

888
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: And and the reason I think this is good is

889
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: because it, like it gives you a little bit of

890
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: sweat equity. And so just by having done that yourself

891
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: some familiarity with your new ride. Exactly. Yeah, you're familiar

892
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: with with some of the tools already, and oftentimes they

893
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: will ship the bike with tools. It's definitely something to

894
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: check and something to look into. But I think that's

895
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: going to cause you to be more likely to work

896
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: and tinker on your bike in the future, saving you

897
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: potentially even more money. Right If if if you're like, oh

898
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: my my brakes, I'm kind of like squeezing it all

899
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: the way down, you know, down to the grips, and

900
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm like barely slowing down, It's like, okay, cool, All

901
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: you really need to do is just kind of adjust

902
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: the little space on your you know, on your brakes,

903
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: or if you've already done that once, it's like, okay,

904
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: maybe I should put that back and actually tighten the cable.

905
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: Like these are all things that you figure out slowly. Uh,

906
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: And it starts by, you know, just some simple tinkering

907
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: around with your bike. And I think that initial assembly

908
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: can be a good way for you to personally get

909
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: familiar with the mechanics of your bike. I like it.

910
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: I like it. And let's say someone is looking to

911
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: buy a new e bike, right, well, that's gonna set

912
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: you back a little more money, right because the battery,

913
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: the motor, all the extra components that go into making

914
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: an e bike do make them more expensive than traditional bikes.

915
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a great place to go electric bike

916
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: review dot com. It's one of my favorite sites for

917
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: researching e bikes. It's super unbiased on this guy Court.

918
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: He reviews all the bikes personally and he does a

919
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: great job riding at the reviews creating long form YouTube

920
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: videos like showing you exactly how these bikes work. So

921
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: I would suggest going there, and it almost sounds like

922
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: a dream job. He has like fans of of biking,

923
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: and as you in particular, you know, as a huge

924
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: fan of electric bikes, it might only be like second

925
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: only to like beer review or something like that. Maybe

926
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: maybe I can be like the Charlie Bucket to his

927
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: Willy Wonka and I can take over his operations something

928
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: that that would be fun. But I also I wrote

929
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: an article recently a out riding a Radwagon. That's the

930
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: electric bike that I'm a big fan of and that

931
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: I've been riding for about four years now. So we'll

932
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: link to that article that discusses all the benefits of

933
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 1: that bike in particular. But really, yeah, if you're looking

934
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: for an ebike, there's so many more choices than there

935
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: used to be, like three or four years ago. There

936
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: weren't that many, and they weren't nearly as good as

937
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: they are. They've improved so much, and the prices are

938
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: actually kind of getting more competitive. So I would say, yeah,

939
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: check out that site, check out the article I wrote, um,

940
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: and hopefully that will guide you in the right direction

941
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: as you're looking to find the ebike that's best going

942
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: to fit kind of your lifestyle and how you want

943
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: to bike. But one of the great things about ebikes, Matt,

944
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: is I think it will get a lot of people

945
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: on the road that otherwise wouldn't because that's one of

946
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: those excuses, right, Um. And for some people, especially as

947
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: they age, it's more difficult to get out there on

948
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: an actual bike, and ebike just allows a much wider

949
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: range of folks to actually enjoy biking that might not

950
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: be able to otherwise. Absolutely, I mean that's why we

951
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: don't hate at all on ebikes. I think there's some

952
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: like purists out there who are just like, oh no,

953
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: like that's like that's cheating, you know, like using the

954
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: battery or whatever. But as long as you're peddling, I

955
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: mean I see some guys just literally just like their

956
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: feet aren't moving at all and they're just like throttling it.

957
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: Like in my mind, that's like an electric scooter basically,

958
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: But I don't like seeing anything. But I love the

959
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: accessibility and how it's gonna mean that more folks are

960
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: going to be on their bikes. And so let's talk

961
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: about how to incorporate biking into your commuting routine a

962
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: little more easily. Start off slow, and you can do

963
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: this by getting around your neighborhood by bike. Like we said,

964
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: you know, half of your driving is likely done within

965
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: four miles of your home, so yeah, dip your toes

966
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: in the water by just getting your bike out on

967
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: the road for some of those easy trips. There's no

968
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: need to jump on your bike for this massive thirteen

969
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: mile one way commute to work tomorrow morning. It'll probably

970
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: turn you off from biking in general, because maybe you

971
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: haven't thought about the different things that you're gonna learn

972
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: as you start to ride a bike more than route

973
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: you want to take, and you're like trying to figure

974
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: that out on the fly while you're trying to get

975
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: a work to work on time or yeah, or you're thinking,

976
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: you're like, oh man, I didn't bring a lock, Like

977
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: how am I supposed to? Like like there's just small

978
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: little things that you realize once you get more used

979
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: to riding. And we're not going to cover all those

980
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: little things, but you can learn all of these things

981
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: yourself by just starting out small. Yeah. I think one

982
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: other way to incorporate biking into your commuting routine is

983
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: to take some low stress, low pressure rides. Right, and

984
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: if you think that commuting to work is a real

985
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: possibility for you, I would suggest giving it a try

986
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 1: on the weekend first, right, so well, less traffic, yeah,

987
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: less traffic, you know, Monday morning, that ride can be daunting.

988
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: Uh if if everybody's like talking at you because you

989
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: haven't ridden a bike in like ten years. Yeah, and

990
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: you and you haven't given that route ago yet, so um,

991
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: you can kind of familiarize yourself with the route instead

992
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: of being under the crunch to get to work on time.

993
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: And make sure to check out Google Maps. They do

994
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: a great job helping you find the best route to

995
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: take your bike on. Um. So yeah, it's it's likely

996
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: going to be different than the route that you take

997
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: in your car. That route might not be the best

998
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: route on a bike. So yeah, I would say don't

999
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: prioritize the route that has the fewest amount of miles,

1000
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: choose the one that's going to be safer for you,

1001
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: and hopefully one with fewer hills too. Like hills in

1002
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: the car, not a big deal. Hills on a bike, um,

1003
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: you know, if it's if there's a bunch of them,

1004
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: can really wear you out absolutely. And one other thing too,

1005
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: as you start to think about biking more, especially backing

1006
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: to work. If you decide that commuting is working out

1007
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: for you and you're excited to get into regular bike riding,

1008
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: you might want to upgrade your bike at some point.

1009
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: Having a lightweight bike will allow you to travel faster

1010
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: and enjoy biking even more. And so on one hand,

1011
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: we don't want you to go out and buy a

1012
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: bike tomorrow before you, you know, start to actually use

1013
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: the one that you already have, or before you even

1014
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: take the first bike ride. But it's also important not

1015
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: to cheap out if you're going to bike consistently, right,

1016
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: So a heavy bike with just basic components will, I

1017
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: think that will quickly become frustrating to ride, um and

1018
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: ultimately that might end up discouraging you from riding at all.

1019
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: And that's what we're trying to avoid here. It's like

1020
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: going out there and trying to play disc golf with

1021
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: one of those you know, WAMO discs that really it's

1022
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: meant for ultimate FRISB, like an ultimate disc. Yeah yeah,

1023
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: And and like no you need you can, but as

1024
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: gonna be nearly as effective that you know, driving down

1025
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: the fairway, and pretty soon you're just gonna like lose

1026
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: all joy into it because you're like, I see these

1027
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: other guys out here throwing it. They're getting to the

1028
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: hole in three, It takes me six strokes, Like it's

1029
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: just it's just not fun, and you need the proper

1030
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: equipment in order to do it well. And I think

1031
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: the same thing can be true of biking, Like you

1032
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 1: don't want to go all in and bind an expensive

1033
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: bike before you're ready, but you want to make sure

1034
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: your equipment is decent. And then having a crumby bike

1035
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: isn't going to continue to be the excuse to keep

1036
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: you from biking, and so at some point you might

1037
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: have to put some money into that in order to

1038
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: make sure that you're riding on something that's going to

1039
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: get you excited to get out there on the road well.

1040
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: And and this isn't to say that you can't find

1041
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: a great bike for five bucks, right, like from bike's director.

1042
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: Get a solid, awesome, great commuter bike that you can

1043
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 1: ride to and from work for years and years. I'm

1044
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: riding a free, hand me down bike and I'm still

1045
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: riding the same one and it's awesome, but it's also

1046
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: a nice bike that you happen to get free. But

1047
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: I think said, if you find yourself drawn to biking

1048
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: and you're enjoying it more and more, well you can

1049
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: sell that five on your bike, you know, maybe do

1050
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: a upgrade, get that fifteen dollar bike. Uh, if you're

1051
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: able to maybe see your old bike for like safe

1052
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: hunter bucks. But that evens right, there is a small

1053
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: amount of money compared to the vast amount of money

1054
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: that you're going to say over the years. Uh. And

1055
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: so we're trying to make sure that you are equipped

1056
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: to be able to do this in a way that's

1057
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: effective and in a way that you're actually going to

1058
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 1: be able to stick with. Yeah. So yeah, to sum

1059
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: it up, we're talking about biking more to get rich.

1060
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: That was the title of this episode, Matt. And I

1061
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, biking has been a lifestyle game

1062
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: changer for my family, but it's also been a personal

1063
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Speaker 1: finance game changer for our family. It's allowed us to

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Speaker 1: own only one car, which has been awesome. But I

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00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: feel like even more important than that, if someone were

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Speaker 1: to say, you know, what's what are the best things

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Speaker 1: about biking, the first things I would say wouldn't be financial.

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Speaker 1: They would be the memories that I've made with my

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Speaker 1: family on bikes. Um. And so like on a Saturday,

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Speaker 1: if we're going to a playground, we don't happen the

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Speaker 1: car anymore. We hop on bikes, um. And it kind

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Speaker 1: of helps define the day for us in a positive way.

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Speaker 1: And instead of waiting in the car pool line for

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Speaker 1: for my kids, you know, behind fIF eight other cars,

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Speaker 1: you know, idoling as our kids run out top in

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Speaker 1: the van, we we you and I ride up there

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Speaker 1: together on our bikes and we pick up our kids. Um.

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Speaker 1: And we talked the whole way there, and we're hanging

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Speaker 1: out there with other folks, and sure we're a little

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00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: bit sweaty, and I think some of the parents look

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00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: at us funny, But man, it's such a better way

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Speaker 1: for us to live life. At least we feel it is. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's really it's not possible to calculate the you

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Speaker 1: know r o I of owning a decent bike and

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00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: riding it consistently. But there are so many benefits you

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Speaker 1: get from biking on the rag. And I don't even

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Speaker 1: know if we did bikes justice with today's episode, but

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Speaker 1: hopefully we did, and hopefully, you know, our listeners are

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Speaker 1: more encouraged to go hop on their own bikes. Maybe

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Speaker 1: this week, this weekend, I hope maybe start kicking the

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Speaker 1: tires on biking more regularly as like a lifestyle choice.

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Speaker 1: That's right, it's gonna save you money, and it just

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Speaker 1: even aside from the money man, it makes me think

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Speaker 1: of like the last couple of gatherings we've done with

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Speaker 1: with with a bunch of dudes, a few wants back

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Speaker 1: for your birthday. We got a bunch of guys together

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Speaker 1: and we went we went riding. We rode to a

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Speaker 1: brewery before we rode somewhere else, you know, for a

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Speaker 1: on fire. That night a friend of ours had a

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Speaker 1: baby shower. Recently, we rode to uh this taco truck

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Speaker 1: basically had a bunch of tacos. Then we rode to

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Speaker 1: another brewery from there, and then that night, you know,

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Speaker 1: we wrote home it's just so much fun. Yeah, just

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Speaker 1: getting a bunch of folks together like that and riding

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Speaker 1: around town. And so at the core of it, this

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00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: is a money show, but there are again so many

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Speaker 1: benefits that riding bikes can bring you. But man, let

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Speaker 1: let's quickly get back to the beer that we enjoyed

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Speaker 1: this episode. You and I shared a double fruited boisonberry,

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Speaker 1: BlackBerry raspberry hill. Uh. This is from Southern Grist Brewing Company.

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Speaker 1: These guys are at a Nashville, Tennessee. What were your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on this sour man? I thought it was a

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Speaker 1: little sweet, a little sour. It had like some smoothie

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Speaker 1: kind of notes going on. Yeah, yeah, like my wife

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Speaker 1: makes smoothies for the kids, like a lot of days.

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Speaker 1: We've been doing that a lot lately. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it takes like one of those I think in a

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Speaker 1: lot of ways, like a beer smoothie. Um. And I

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Speaker 1: think there was just so much fruit in there. In fact,

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Speaker 1: it truly was double fruited. It really was. So it

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Speaker 1: was this nice blending of like three different kinds of fruits.

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Speaker 1: I think I was getting more of the BlackBerry and

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Speaker 1: the boisonberry, but I think, man, it was it was

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00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: well balanced. But again, I love fruited beers and so yeah,

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Speaker 1: this one is definitely right at my alley. Yeah. The

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Speaker 1: first thing I do is when we poured it, is

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Speaker 1: that I love when the label, like the color of

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Speaker 1: the beer is like the same color as the label,

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Speaker 1: and it one percent was like when I poured him

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Speaker 1: and I was looking at him right next to each other,

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Speaker 1: like there's no surprise as to what you're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: You know, like when you pour a beer and it's

1133
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: like not the color you're expecting it, you're kind of

1134
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: always thinking, oh, well, that's not what I was expecting,

1135
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Speaker 1: or like that happened one time with like a strawberry beer.

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Speaker 1: We poured it and it's like, oh, it's just regular

1137
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: beer colored. It wasn't It wasn't red. And so obviously

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Speaker 1: to get a berry loaded beer like this with that

1139
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: much color, I'm a huge fan of synchronizing those colors

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00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: like that. So Southern Grist, I know you're not listening,

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Speaker 1: but good job, and we would highly recommend this beer

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Speaker 1: if you like fruited sours. But Joel, that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: it for this episode. You can find our show notes

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00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: up on our website at how to money dot Com

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Speaker 1: will make sure to link to any of the different

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Speaker 1: resources that we mentioned, including that article that Joel wrote

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Speaker 1: about his radwagon as well as that bike review site

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Speaker 1: to all right man, Well, that's gonna do it for

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Speaker 1: this episode. Until next time, Best Friends Out, Best Friends Out,