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Speaker 2: Hi. I'm Leanna Holsten and I'm Sienna Jacole, and welcome
Speaker 2: to Tossed Popcorn, the podcast where two idiots watched every
Speaker 2: movie on the American Film Institute's one hundred Greatest American
Speaker 2: Movies of All Time, the very slightly less racist tenth
Speaker 2: Anniversary Edition, and are now in a month of watching
Speaker 2: movies with or buy or about women. Yeah. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 2: this podcast is a safe matrix people who don't know
Speaker 2: anything about movies. That's the only word I would have
Speaker 2: thought of, as well. I know there's the other place,
Speaker 2: but I don't remember what it's called. What today? We know?
Speaker 2: Today we're watching the I only try to realize the truth.
Speaker 2: What truth? There is no spoon one that we're just
Speaker 2: supposed to watch. Warning there will be spoilers about this
Speaker 2: uh reality questioning old film. Hm. Yep, oh, Sienna, can
Speaker 2: I please hear your prediction for this movie? Oh? I
Speaker 2: guess I must have done one because I sent it
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Harleanna, this is Sienna. I'm about to watch
Speaker 3: the Matrix. I gotta say I was very happy to
Speaker 3: have lived in a world where I've never seen that before.
Speaker 2: But yeah, here we go, there we go.
Speaker 3: I predict it's going to be very like two thousands
Speaker 3: eight or nineties or whenever it is in dress and in.
Speaker 2: Special effects.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And then there's that scene with the ducking in slow moo. Yes,
Speaker 2: I love you goodbye. Yep, mostly silence. That's all true, though,
Speaker 2: I mean all of that is correct. Well, Leanna, I'd
Speaker 2: love to hear your prediction for the film The Matrix. Hi, Sienna,
Speaker 2: it's Leanna. I'm about to watch The Matrix. Sorry, my
Speaker 2: hip just popped. I actually don't know anything about this
Speaker 2: movie except the Blue Pill versus the Red Pill, I think,
Speaker 2: and a pause. According to my flatmate, it's trans canon,
Speaker 2: so Sleigh, I hope it's not too violent. Also, Keanu Reeves,
Speaker 2: I predict I might be confused. Love you Bye. I'm
Speaker 2: afraid I mixed up the pills in my synopsis, so
Speaker 2: we'll just have to wait and see before then, Mmm,
Speaker 2: shall we hate girl now that I've yet? Hey girl, girl, Well,
Speaker 2: I'm coming off freshly choking on a piece of broccoli. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was rough. My life really flashed before my eyes.
Speaker 2: Oh I got some really good mochi yesterday. I realized
Speaker 2: about my body and myself. For whatever reason. That afternoon,
Speaker 2: I was like, I absolutely must have some mochi right now.
Speaker 2: And so there's a Korean food store next to the
Speaker 2: Sainsbury's where I live, and I got some red bean
Speaker 2: mochi and it is so good and it was so
Speaker 2: exactly what I wanted. And it's interesting because it's not
Speaker 2: normally a texture that I crave, and it's not ice
Speaker 2: cream mochi. It's like written's tempo, little pillow ball. I
Speaker 2: think our Spirited Away discussion of Japanese foods and Spirited
Speaker 2: Away and dumpling specifically got me really hankering for a
Speaker 2: dumpling or a soft ball of some sort. And I'm
Speaker 2: so pleased. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm out of breath from
Speaker 2: choking my piece of broccoli. You know what after after
Speaker 2: I don't even think I told you this. After Spirited
Speaker 2: Away the next day, I took a bath. That night
Speaker 2: I ate dim sum Oh my gosh, I got a dumpling.
Speaker 2: This was wow. I'm so happy for you. That's great.
Speaker 2: I don't know how it all happened, but I was crazy.
Speaker 2: We were really, we were influenced strongly. We were hey girl,
Speaker 2: Hey girl, gosh, I've basically had full time hours on
Speaker 2: this gig that's just like a month long, and it
Speaker 2: has been a harrowing experience. Can I ask you a
Speaker 2: question about it? Yeah, I'll keep it vague. But you
Speaker 2: sent me a photo of the assistant to somebody who
Speaker 2: is involved. Is that a photo of the actual person
Speaker 2: or were you sending me just like a photo of
Speaker 2: like this is their vibe? Because they looked like that
Speaker 2: is what they look like. Oh, they looked like one
Speaker 2: of the people when everybody gets to the Emerald City
Speaker 2: and the Wizard of Oz and they get greeted by
Speaker 2: that guy who opens the gates and then everybody like
Speaker 2: welcomes them around. That person looked like one of those
Speaker 2: that is people, the literal person. I saw their name
Speaker 2: on the call sheet and I was like, that is
Speaker 2: a very interesting name. Immediately look them up and it's
Speaker 2: like Hollywood person but they're like a Hollywood personality production person.
Speaker 2: So they are the assistant to someone quite famous, and
Speaker 2: it's a little bit sligh for all involved, and it's
Speaker 2: a little bit like Okay, yeah, yeah, that seems that
Speaker 2: seems so right. Do you know how you know how
Speaker 2: dog owners exactly say that they start to look like
Speaker 2: their dogs. I wonder if Hollywood assistants start to like
Speaker 2: simulate there in the other and the other two, there's
Speaker 2: a bit about do they Oh my gosh, I've seen
Speaker 2: the other two said it's true, so very vaguely, that's
Speaker 2: exactly how mine is going. I'm having a very Hollywood experience.
Speaker 2: Leona shall move on to talking about we've both now seen.
Speaker 2: I would say I watched the Matrix. I would not
Speaker 2: say I saw the Matrix. Certainly it was on I
Speaker 2: was looking at it the whole time, which is more
Speaker 2: than can be said for many films we've watched before.
Speaker 2: I was really doing my best. But Sienna, would you
Speaker 2: please and you know, I'm not going to know if
Speaker 2: any of that's not what happened, but could you please
Speaker 2: give us Yeah, I will something. Yes, this is one
Speaker 2: where I wrote it and then I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: time for the next sentence. And I looked at it
Speaker 2: and I was like, I think it's done all right.
Speaker 2: The Matrix turns out the world is dusty and destroyed,
Speaker 2: and AI has been farming humans and implanting a vision
Speaker 2: of the world into their brains. A select few are enlightened,
Speaker 2: those who chose to take the red pill, those who
Speaker 2: chose to take the blue pill when asked instead of
Speaker 2: the red pill. Wait wait, wait, no it is the
Speaker 2: red pill?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 2: Oh fuck? Wait which pill? Okay? The red pill is
Speaker 2: the one that you Yeah, the red one. Okay, shit, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's on me. That's okay, it's absolutely fifty
Speaker 2: to fifty. I have no idea. I know people say
Speaker 2: red pilled or blue pill. Yeah, but to what end? Okay,
Speaker 2: you guys can write in those who chose to take
Speaker 2: the red pill, okay, select few or enlightened, those who
Speaker 2: chose to take the red pill when asked instead of
Speaker 2: the blue pill when given the opportunity. Okay, it seems
Speaker 2: I forgot about what I've written, which keeps them in
Speaker 2: this dream world slash the Matrix. Keanu Reeves is the
Speaker 2: chosen one, which I think means he's the one who
Speaker 2: turns out to be most capable of controlling the matrix
Speaker 2: by thinking really hard, which he does eventually do the end. Yeah, fine, sure,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. We can't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's very much like I mean, yeah, we'll have to
Speaker 2: get into it because I already have things to say.
Speaker 2: Yes please, well, yeah, show move onto our phone notes,
Speaker 2: where we talk about the news. We took our phone
Speaker 2: while watching the film My God, General, what's your general? Well,
Speaker 2: I've already seen your first note, which is Keanu Reeves
Speaker 2: is in there. I was like, guys, Keanu Reeves. He's
Speaker 2: so famous for having been in the Matrix. And then
Speaker 2: later they called him Neo and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's neo. I've heard those names. The one thing I
Speaker 2: really knew is that Keanu Reeves was in this movie.
Speaker 2: A little bit later, I was like, that's right. But
Speaker 2: the fact that he was the one who did whoa, whoa,
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that. I didn't realize Keanu Reeves was
Speaker 2: the one who Yeah, yeah, I okay. My overall things
Speaker 2: with the movie, I'm on board for it because it
Speaker 2: was directed by two trans women, which is very slay.
Speaker 2: I didn't like it, Yeah, I kept a much more
Speaker 2: open mind because of that and of the like sci
Speaker 2: fi noir things we've now seen. It was so much
Speaker 2: less worse than others. It was pretty chill as far
Speaker 2: as the lot of these types of things go, which
Speaker 2: it has been a lot worse. It was a lot
Speaker 2: more gross than I ate ever could have expected. Gross.
Speaker 2: It was disgusting, absolutely goop. It was so goop. There
Speaker 2: were a number of times where I was yelling like, oh,
Speaker 2: I was yelling you, and I was angry with everyone
Speaker 2: who had not told me that the matrix was gross.
Speaker 2: Once he did the like I fucking loved the bullet Dodgers.
Speaker 2: I was screaming sleigh from my couch. Any physical like
Speaker 2: when he was doing kung fu, Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 2: I love it, love that. I loved that. When he
Speaker 2: did a cartwheel, I was like, yes, more of that.
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with that. That's how I felt too, The
Speaker 2: training montages and stuff and like, oh it's just perfect,
Speaker 2: that's just great. Yeah. Yeah, I see why people were
Speaker 2: so into some of that, because I'm like, that was
Speaker 2: real fun. The guns and stuff I didn't care for
Speaker 2: or about, but there were some cool like oh wow,
Speaker 2: look at him go they committed sleigh. Yeah. Do you
Speaker 2: know who else I trust? Who was in this film?
Speaker 2: That guy one of the agents in the sunglasses and
Speaker 2: the black suit, Hugo Weaving. He we've seen him before.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna remember Hugo Weaving. He played Arwin's father
Speaker 2: and Lord of the Rings. He's a big elf boy.
Speaker 2: I really trust that man, and I think what it is.
Speaker 2: I think I trust him to deliver a perfer foremans. Yeah,
Speaker 2: every time some of the best eyebrows in the BIS.
Speaker 2: I found myself saying, oh absolutely, mm hmmm. Leana, you've said, OHMG,
Speaker 2: this guy. I love this guy. Are you talking, Yes,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Hugo Weaving. Yeah, yeah, you love him
Speaker 2: o Leanna. And you've said I look forward to understanding
Speaker 2: what's happening. That day never came. Were you freshly birthed
Speaker 2: from a big pot of goo? I can't look at you,
Speaker 2: but you have three minutes to wipe. We'll be right back. Leanna.
Speaker 2: You said definitive proof that people should have mouths that
Speaker 2: scene where he lost his mouth. Ooh, I might have
Speaker 2: been cooking my chicken apple sausage. You you he was
Speaker 2: in the interrogation room, okay with Arwin's dad, sure, the
Speaker 2: elf guy. Yeah, And Arwin's dad was like, well, you
Speaker 2: might feel differently if you can't speak at all for
Speaker 2: your one phone call. And then his mouth turns goofy
Speaker 2: and then completely disappears, and then everybody starts kicking him,
Speaker 2: which is honestly kind of how every scene in the
Speaker 2: Matrix Matrix ends is that could just be a synopsis.
Speaker 2: Starts kicking him or he starts kicking everyone on the
Speaker 2: two that's so funny. Well, yeah, I'm sorry everybody. I
Speaker 2: was turned around. It's okay. I can imagine when you
Speaker 2: see somebody without eyebrows and you're like, oh, I see
Speaker 2: why we have eyebrows. Yeah, when I saw a face
Speaker 2: without a mouth, I was like, mad, that's not right,
Speaker 2: that's fucked up. I can tell that's fun. Now. I'm
Speaker 2: not a doctor, but I think that ain't right. Oh god, oh,
Speaker 2: so much good stuff. Unfortunately, this is the one I
Speaker 2: just saw, so I have to say this first. You
Speaker 2: said flushed Away meets the Shawshank Redemption. It is this
Speaker 2: movie's incredibly sewer core. Oh oh that scene where he
Speaker 2: gets like flushed out of his pod right after he's
Speaker 2: been birthed. I was like, this is so flushed away
Speaker 2: and then he was like in his little sewer area
Speaker 2: and that was very Shawshank Redemption visuals stop. And the
Speaker 2: themes of it, like the whole like people going under
Speaker 2: to like be existing in a different world, was very
Speaker 2: Avatar and like, this world isn't real, you have to
Speaker 2: get to the real world. Was very inception and the
Speaker 2: goop was very stranger things. Yeah, it clearly influenced a
Speaker 2: lot of later. You can see that too. I could
Speaker 2: see that too. I was like, Oh, this reminds me
Speaker 2: of so oh much. Yes, including flushed away is the
Speaker 2: influence of the matrix here and flushed away the way
Speaker 2: that the rest gets flushed away. It's similar to when
Speaker 2: Keanu Reeves gets flushed away. Leanna, you said I would
Speaker 2: one hundred percent take the blue pill. I want to
Speaker 2: talk to you about this. No that, so do you
Speaker 2: do if Laurence fishburnt in tiny sunglasses presented himself to
Speaker 2: you and was like, you can either know what's going on,
Speaker 2: because we know you've been really confused for a long time,
Speaker 2: or you can go back to just living your stupid
Speaker 2: little life. What would you do if I found out
Speaker 2: tomorrow that the world is absolutely destroyed and bad things
Speaker 2: are going to happen, and I could either just pretend
Speaker 2: it's not happening mm hmm or face it head on.
Speaker 2: It would be a really tough decision right now, really, God,
Speaker 2: I would take the blue pill. Immediately. Oh, I don't
Speaker 2: want to know what's going on. Yeah, I this is concerning.
Speaker 2: But the character I related to the most was that
Speaker 2: guy with a goatee who is like betrays everyone and
Speaker 2: is like, I don't want to remember that I did
Speaker 2: anything bad, and then I want to be a famous
Speaker 2: and successful actor. Uh huh, yeah, I think that's his name. Cipher.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, absolutely, if I had to do crimes,
Speaker 2: I would not want to remember that. I wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to remember the harm that I'd caused, and then I
Speaker 2: would want to have just like a dumb, smooth brain life,
Speaker 2: certainly as a hot actor. What's the difference, anyway, it's
Speaker 2: a simulation, so what nothing matters. I would not want
Speaker 2: to be birthed into goop. Yeah, I really wouldn't want that.
Speaker 2: I really really wouldn't want that. I think, honestly, catholically,
Speaker 2: I would be like, I have to do that one.
Speaker 2: I have no choice, you have now that I know path,
Speaker 2: Now that I know, I have to take the path
Speaker 2: that I can actually do good in versus living in
Speaker 2: I see, you know, and I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 2: I'm going to die immediately. There's no way I can
Speaker 2: rise to that. There's just no way. I would love though,
Speaker 2: if I knew that in taking the Red Pill, I
Speaker 2: could then be programmed into knowing how to do literally
Speaker 2: any skill that was awesome, that was very cool. What
Speaker 2: skills would you pick if you could be programmed immediately
Speaker 2: to know them? I would be so physically capable. Are
Speaker 2: you kidding? I would be able to do a cartwheel? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I would. I guess that's mostly it. What about you?
Speaker 2: Really nothing else? Just a cart wheeler will love to
Speaker 2: do one good cartwheel. I don't think it's even in
Speaker 2: the cars.
Speaker 4: For me.
Speaker 2: The whole world of skills you could possibly learn is
Speaker 2: that your fingertips and you're good with just a cartwheel.
Speaker 2: Maybe'd speak another language, that'd be great. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 2: good one. I think I'd want to be really really
Speaker 2: good at hip hop dance. Oh oh, I would love that.
Speaker 2: I would want to just be able to slay a
Speaker 2: hip hop dance routine and not seem like the whitest
Speaker 2: person alive while it was happening. That's a real that's
Speaker 2: a fantasy of mine. Oh what does this mean, Siana?
Speaker 2: You wrote my neurokinetics would be off the charts and
Speaker 2: then your next notice just sometimes so I wondered about
Speaker 2: this for both of us, because our brains move very
Speaker 2: fast in certain ways and also slow or they just
Speaker 2: like shut off. Yes, and sometimes I'm really like oh,
Speaker 2: but it's usually because everything in my head is going screaming. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But the reason I think they say that he's so
Speaker 2: fast because he starts being like They're like, whoa, he's
Speaker 2: so fast, but it's all this what you're thinking of.
Speaker 2: And one guy goes his neurokinetics are off the charts,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I wonder where my neurokinetics are.
Speaker 2: Because this is just a film about a man with
Speaker 2: like ADHD or anxiety or whatever. It is absolutely so
Speaker 2: much more than everyone else's and in that world than like, hey,
Speaker 2: we would definitely be assets in the matrix, I think,
Speaker 2: But where would that shoes their brains are hurtling through space,
Speaker 2: where would that shoe be? Yeah, every now and then
Speaker 2: we just combust. Well, I wouldn't be there because I'd
Speaker 2: have taken the blue pill and you'd be you'd have combusted.
Speaker 2: That's so funny. In video games, I usually run around
Speaker 2: and then combust. It's about how I do that. That's
Speaker 2: why I like Kirby air Rides so much. That's all
Speaker 2: you have to do. Leanna. You've said Squidty Pass was
Speaker 2: that there were so many moments in this film where
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I gotta tap out.
Speaker 2: I can't be here for this. Nope. I was really
Speaker 2: trying to again, like be on board with it because
Speaker 2: apparently it's an allegory for being trans and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: hell yeah. I've also read that. I've also heard that
Speaker 2: like that's a lot of the viewers reading of it,
Speaker 2: and that the actual creators are like, no, it's not interesting.
Speaker 2: And I didn't read a single article after watching the
Speaker 2: movie Between that then and now, I think, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It is in the way that art is where it's like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: maybe you see the world in a way that speaks
Speaker 2: to people who are trans because you yourself are transported.
Speaker 2: But they're like, stop, it's about the nature of reality, Like,
Speaker 2: it's not about my coming out. Oh yes, Sienna, I agree.
Speaker 2: You said. I like how the women in this are
Speaker 2: all gay. The women absolutely, no, that's definitely now right.
Speaker 2: So they're not really, but you know, but they are.
Speaker 2: But they were one thing they didn't the styling of
Speaker 2: this was interesting because it's like very tight, very shiny,
Speaker 2: very dressed in the nines. But the women also didn't
Speaker 2: wear makeup really, which I was like, it's interesting, and
Speaker 2: there wasn't much boob Like it was tight clothing, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't boob forward in the way that a lot
Speaker 2: of the times, like a Blade Runner tight totally. They
Speaker 2: were cool and hot and stuff. But it really these
Speaker 2: were not annoying for me. Annoying female characters in it
Speaker 2: no like it fell. It was an action film, but
Speaker 2: they weren't like, oh no, one sort of like translate.
Speaker 2: It felt like a bit of a genderless yeah film,
Speaker 2: it did. Oh I thought Trinity, I thought you were
Speaker 2: a guy and she was like most guys do. And
Speaker 2: you know it just gender was not a big part
Speaker 2: of the world. Like those characters could have been any
Speaker 2: gender and it wouldn't have changed totally the storyline, if
Speaker 2: that makes sense. Yeah, it was successful in that way,
Speaker 2: and I did. I did like that. Leanna. You said
Speaker 2: something very funny, which is, if it's a simulation, why
Speaker 2: is it ugly? You could have made it anything. You
Speaker 2: could have made it literally gorgeous, a meadow flowers. Everything
Speaker 2: is this because it was made by AI, and AI
Speaker 2: is evil and gross. I guess there was literally an
Speaker 2: unhoused person in a simulation. Why even in a simulation
Speaker 2: we have housing inequity? What the fuck?
Speaker 4: I know?
Speaker 2: It's not like it like, it's not like a I
Speaker 2: forgot you weren't going to get this. It's not like
Speaker 2: a Truman Show situation. Oh yeah, I love that movie.
Speaker 2: I know what it's about. This was not the Truman Show. Like,
Speaker 2: it was nothing like that. Okay, she has no idea.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like he's trapped into a cloud or whatever.
Speaker 2: Kind of is that like a trumanship where it's like
Speaker 2: everything is perfect and then you find out it's like
Speaker 2: it's kind of like everything just was bad and then
Speaker 2: you found that it wasn't true. It was like way worse. Honestly,
Speaker 2: what that's like my my last relationship. That's all I
Speaker 2: felt about the simulation. It's like, why is everything gray
Speaker 2: and like busted out? Yeah, the elevator is a great point.
Speaker 2: It's a great point. I guess. So people never suspect anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if life gets too pretty, everybody will be like, hang on,
Speaker 2: I think I might be in a goop pod. Leanna
Speaker 2: you said when he threw those guns down, I laughed,
Speaker 2: When is that?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 2: When they decided to fight behind their hands, this ending
Speaker 2: fight sequence where everybody was like really slaying and I
Speaker 2: loved it. And that's when he did a cartwheel. He
Speaker 2: tossed these guns away in such a silly way, and
Speaker 2: I really laughed out loud. I was laughing often during
Speaker 2: the action sequences of this movie, and I was.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, sure, okay, slay and they were just like
Speaker 5: running up walls or doing little flips, you know, doing
Speaker 5: their little whatever.
Speaker 2: I was like, yes, absolutely, when it was in slow
Speaker 2: motion or when he stopped the bullets, I was likewa,
Speaker 2: absolutely because he got brought back to life from the
Speaker 2: power of true love. I guess that was hilarious. That
Speaker 2: did make you love. I'm like, at what point?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: At what point was that gonna be the mechanic of
Speaker 2: this film? True Love? The fuck? He's like, that doesn't
Speaker 2: make any sense for this world. Kiss Okay, I got smooth.
Speaker 2: I guess these eight bullets in my chest are not
Speaker 2: affecting me. Great, great, Yeah, I just read your last note?
Speaker 2: What your last noteice? Who is he talking to? Who
Speaker 2: is he talking to? It? Then he's the guys, the
Speaker 2: people in charge. I don't think we're meant to know.
Speaker 2: I think they were setting up that it was gonna
Speaker 2: be a trilogy. That's exactly what my roommates said to me,
Speaker 2: and I was like, sorry, it's just like this is
Speaker 2: sometimes where movies aren't made for me, where I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: they forgot to show the shot of who he's talking to.
Speaker 2: It's like, wait a second, who's he talking to? Well,
Speaker 2: this is where I get impatient with trilogies, because I'm like, fucking,
Speaker 2: don't just give us fuck God, damn it, damn I've
Speaker 2: watched two more of these. No flushed away coming from
Speaker 2: someone who put all three of the Captain America's on
Speaker 2: the list. Flushed away away Away, flushed so, flushed, flushed away,
Speaker 2: flushed away, flushed away, No way home, flushed away, No Way,
Speaker 2: jose Leonna, your final notes are, this is a great question.
Speaker 2: You did say, sorry, wait, why is everyone wearing sunglasses?
Speaker 2: There was no sun. It was the absence of light,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't like up eyeballs that I can't remember
Speaker 2: if they go into that liminal space, but I was
Speaker 2: perceiving tiny sunglasses throughout. But it wasn't until the very
Speaker 2: end where I was like, wait, what what is the reason? Yea,
Speaker 2: what is the reason for the tiny sunglasses and everybody
Speaker 2: has them? Is it just to look pretty? Just a
Speaker 2: little in that like Y two k era, I guess
Speaker 2: that it's I mean, if you start questioning the costuming choices,
Speaker 2: I love that they're just trying to survive and they
Speaker 2: have to look cool. It is so awesome. They have
Speaker 2: to look so cunty. Oh my gosh. Everybody was in
Speaker 2: those long coats, the white the one in the white
Speaker 2: serving loved it. Sure, I don't know who that was,
Speaker 2: but really loved that outfit. On your final two notes
Speaker 2: are bruh, what is going on? Yep? And then you
Speaker 2: said my dude absolutely slaying in his big coat after
Speaker 2: he gets a coat. Yeah, and then flies Yeah, it
Speaker 2: flies directly into the sky and that's the final shot.
Speaker 2: I was like, what what does this mean? I do
Speaker 2: appreciate a film that commits to the bit. That's what. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can say, I can say, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: That could only be a movie aware. I feel like
Speaker 2: it was aware that it was a bit campy m h.
Speaker 2: And yet the teenage boys who were watching it didn't
Speaker 2: have the nuance to understand that, but also they still
Speaker 2: enjoyed it as well. It's for everyone, It's really for everyone.
Speaker 2: It's the family movie of the year. Oh yeah, oh no,
Speaker 2: have you lost your tiny sunglasses? Look for them in
Speaker 2: your car. You've got three minutes. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: Let's transport ourselves into our segment badges and tradges, where
Speaker 2: we award badges for for blue pills, For blue pills, absolutely,
Speaker 2: I love a blue pill, and trages for trench coats. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I guess that's our takeaway. We loved, we loved the
Speaker 2: blue pill, and we hated those trench coats. I love
Speaker 2: that blue pill. I have a badge for three oh three.
Speaker 2: The first door in the movie was number three oh three,
Speaker 2: and that's the Colorado area code. Oh and why that
Speaker 2: band is called three three? Love that. My first badge
Speaker 2: is for training scene question mark, because I love training
Speaker 2: scenes generally. And I think I liked this one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I liked it too. Yeah, them fight when
Speaker 2: they're doing kung fu at each other. I loved. As
Speaker 2: we said, we love the moments that make us go yes, yes,
Speaker 2: oh oh, good shop, Okay, wonderful. I have a badge
Speaker 2: for Mouse's little bucket hat, that little gay boy he designed,
Speaker 2: the hot blonde woman, the gay little little bucket hat.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed him for some reason. I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: this guy was supposed to be I knew he was
Speaker 2: gay the whole time, so I was like, whatever, he
Speaker 2: design a bimbo popular actor. That's how I felt about
Speaker 2: the whole cast. I was like, I'm surprised. Come, I've
Speaker 2: never seen people are not more popular. Yes, I felt
Speaker 2: that way too. I wonder if this movie was I
Speaker 2: wonder if they did something that made them maybe they
Speaker 2: were too cool, trapped in the matrix. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Well I was gonna say, maybe they're wo woke for Hollywood,
Speaker 2: but that can't be true. Badge for the women not
Speaker 2: wearing makeup as an aesthetic choice. Everybody being in shiny, shiny,
Speaker 2: absolutely cunty stuff, oh shiny and slaying, and then they aren't.
Speaker 2: They don't really have makeup on. I just thought it
Speaker 2: was aesthetically like you said, it makes it kind of androgynous.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, yes, yes, Badge for these giant bunnies. Oh
Speaker 2: that scene where he's going to see the oracle at
Speaker 2: Delphi or whatever. And there's a room of children, which
Speaker 2: I didn't I found very embarrassing. But on the little
Speaker 2: TV behind the children are it's footage of like a
Speaker 2: suburban neighborhood being overrun by enormous rabbits and you love them.
Speaker 2: I loved that. Imagine if bunnies we're so big, what
Speaker 2: what would we do? That would be wonderful. That's the
Speaker 2: simulation I want to live in. Now that's the matrix.
Speaker 2: We get to ride them like they're big elephants. Just
Speaker 2: I love that. Uh My next badge, I only have
Speaker 2: one more badge, but I just want to I feel
Speaker 2: like it's yeah. Uh my next badge is for the Oracle.
Speaker 2: I loved that Oracle. I loved her. I loved her.
Speaker 2: I was like, hello, who are we? Her vibes were
Speaker 2: off the charts. My bad My next badge is for
Speaker 2: the Oracle saying would you have still broken it if
Speaker 2: I hadn't said anything, and pointing out that stupid fucking
Speaker 2: Mobius strip of of uh prophecies? And well, is it
Speaker 2: gonna come true just because you heard it and then
Speaker 2: you make it come true? Is it actually fate? Is
Speaker 2: anything fake? I was like, thank you for being meta?
Speaker 2: And pointing that. For saying it. Thank you for saying that,
Speaker 2: for saying it, thank you. My next badges, yes, a cartwheel, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'd say my final badge is just sort of like
Speaker 2: the action parts I love, like a kung Fu movie
Speaker 2: I love. Yeah. I wouldn't have expected it back in
Speaker 2: the day, but they just they just know what they are.
Speaker 2: They keep it sup. He was kicking and he did
Speaker 2: his kicks, He did his little when he does some
Speaker 2: big kicks he has. He does one kick towards the
Speaker 2: end and he just holds his leg. I know exactly
Speaker 2: what you're talking about. It was like, I love that
Speaker 2: strong honestly, it was like a bar put. Yeah. Absolutely, yes,
Speaker 2: my final badges. Oh my god, he's so hot in
Speaker 2: this tight little shirt. His little shirt that he's wearing
Speaker 2: at the end was so tight it didn't need to be.
Speaker 2: And I was feeling thankful, feeling thankful. Yes that your
Speaker 2: final badge? Did you say? Yes? Oh my gosh, well, yes,
Speaker 2: trag is trag is I have too. Okay, I'll start
Speaker 2: trage for the police, but then sort of a badge
Speaker 2: for the agents. The evil AI people always morphed from
Speaker 2: police officers. Oh that's not true. A trage for the police.
Speaker 2: I felt like the police were and this is still
Speaker 2: a trag, but I thought they were like the Matrix
Speaker 2: bad guys, right, I thought I have to eat? I
Speaker 2: think so? Yeah, which case, sleigh good commentary. Trage for
Speaker 2: the sound mixing. Did you have this problem? The voices
Speaker 2: were super super quiet, and then it would just be
Speaker 2: so I enjoined it way up, and then the music
Speaker 2: and everything would be so loud. I just assumed my
Speaker 2: TV speakers were bad. It was, it was. It was
Speaker 2: really weird. Yes, that was a mixed film. Don't why Also,
Speaker 2: isn't it a thing that like modern television speakers are
Speaker 2: really bad and so they make hearing a movie a
Speaker 2: terrible experience. Oh, I don't know. Maybe I don't remember.
Speaker 2: I don't remember if it's TV speakers or if it's
Speaker 2: modern like movies and TV shows are not mixed. Well,
Speaker 2: I can't remember. Probably a combination of like, yeah, well,
Speaker 2: it makes sense that an older thing isn't compatible with
Speaker 2: the new one. But it's like it's the Matrix, couldn't
Speaker 2: you guys, it's this Amazon, I feel like you can
Speaker 2: just mix it different. Yeah. Yeah. Trage for everyone's costumes
Speaker 2: are annoying me. This was early on when he gets
Speaker 2: approached by his like drug like ketamine clubbing friends and
Speaker 2: they're like, come out with us, come and she's got
Speaker 2: the white rabbit tattoo. Uh huh, all of their outfits.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, not down for this, uh huh,
Speaker 2: everybody's outfits. Later I loved I don't know, I'm a
Speaker 2: changeable person, changeable person, I guess trag for the woman
Speaker 2: in red sort of thing, the like Yeah, but it
Speaker 2: was one of those also where I did think it
Speaker 2: was funny that later he's like poorn, he's looking at
Speaker 2: is it says like the woman in red, she's like
Speaker 2: the one sex object in the whole society. Yeah, I imagine,
Speaker 2: and she's but then it's just like she was an
Speaker 2: object created by a man, you know. Yeah, yeah, anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 2: on our feminist podcast, I guess we have to say something.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, something must be said.
Speaker 2: And thank you for saying that. It's fine trage for
Speaker 2: green lighting. Nope, not for me, not for you. Nobody
Speaker 2: looks good, foolish like it, ghoulish. It poortends doom in
Speaker 2: a way that I don't appreciate. Portentious. Mm hmm. My
Speaker 2: final tradge is real gross. Yeah, it was real gross.
Speaker 2: I mean I was going, I was going, oh oh,
Speaker 2: oh oh yeah. My next trage is Keanu was hot,
Speaker 2: but there has been too much goop and too many
Speaker 2: things injected when he came out bald, bald, bald skin, flesh,
Speaker 2: Austin Butler and Dune too goop and flesh. Just Doner
Speaker 2: mm hmm, Doner, what is Doner? I accept it. I
Speaker 2: want to Doune. It's all people are sooner Dune too, Doner,
Speaker 2: and it's it's Dune. It's back and it's Doner than ever.
Speaker 2: They're not saying that it's so goofy. And when things
Speaker 2: are injected. That's the thing that really gets me nauseous.
Speaker 2: Is like any any scene where somebody pulls an ivy
Speaker 2: out of their arm, I go, can't do it. Trash
Speaker 2: for steak, shut up, shut up about a man eating
Speaker 2: a steak in a film. I don't ever need to
Speaker 2: see that again. I'm good. I through a series of
Speaker 2: events that I'll tell you off, Mike because it was annoying.
Speaker 2: But I I the other day eight stake kind of
Speaker 2: on accident, and while I was eating it. I was like,
Speaker 2: this is just fine, and I was thinking about our
Speaker 2: conversations about it. It's just like, this is so over
Speaker 2: red meat. It's red meat. It's overrated, and it's chewy,
Speaker 2: it's tough. Maybe you had bad steak. Huh. A trage
Speaker 2: for don't kiss him while he's dead. Yeah, they were
Speaker 2: gonna kiss earlier, like twice, and they never did. And
Speaker 2: I at one point was like, why is nobody kissing
Speaker 2: right now? And then after he died, she was like, oh,
Speaker 2: oh no, but I love you smooth nom. Yeah. A
Speaker 2: trage for no chemistry between Neo and Trinity, because come on, guys,
Speaker 2: those people are not attracted. That's not that's not either
Speaker 2: of their sexualities. Yeah. No, totally and my final trage.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if this is for me to
Speaker 2: like label a trage or not. But the end credits
Speaker 2: of the film, the description on Amazon Prime has the
Speaker 2: director's names, but the end credits dead name them. Oh,
Speaker 2: And I was like, hmm, yeah, I wonder if it's
Speaker 2: something they could like, I mean, maybe they have like
Speaker 2: the whatever edition the I don't know or if they
Speaker 2: would have to make like a new edition or whatever.
Speaker 2: But it is an interesting yeah, part of its history.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Strange one is that a landline phone I
Speaker 2: hear ringing. Let's go pick it up and get digitized
Speaker 2: into our next segment. How to pretend you've seen this film?
Speaker 2: This is for you are in the matrix in an office,
Speaker 2: You're in your cubicle. You're in your cubicle, and you
Speaker 2: you're in a completely white void, thinking that you're safe, yes,
Speaker 2: from all outside interaction. You're in your blue one. You
Speaker 2: blue pilled this shit and you are oh yeah, but
Speaker 2: in a version where you're just chilling in avoid vibing
Speaker 2: blue chill and Neo. I don't know any of their
Speaker 2: names who Morpheus Cipher. Cipher was the guy with the
Speaker 2: Goates Cipher. You hear his voice somehow, you hear his
Speaker 2: voice elsewhere. He goes hey, You're like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no, but he's in your ear void. Give a
Speaker 2: bluetooth that you can't turn off. He goes, He goes, hey,
Speaker 2: you know what surrounds you? And you go the literal
Speaker 2: thing that it is right now? He goes the you
Speaker 2: know the matrix that movie and you go yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the inspiration. That's why AI in twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: created this space and I've been utilizing it and I
Speaker 2: want to get around it. And uh, he goes, oh boy,
Speaker 2: I love that movie so much. I bet you have
Speaker 2: no idea about it. I bet you don't know anything
Speaker 2: about how good it is and how it's not warning
Speaker 2: anybody about anything at all. And it's just in order
Speaker 2: in order to debug Cipher, We're going to give you
Speaker 2: a few sentences you can say to pretend you've seen
Speaker 2: the film The Matrix. Yes, Cipher, I've seen The Matrix.
Speaker 2: That film is about questioning the nature of reality. Uh.
Speaker 2: And it's important that even when things are bad, you
Speaker 2: question if they're real. Hmmm is that good? That's kind
Speaker 2: of my takeaway is not great? Okay, I guess I'm
Speaker 2: still working on my takeaways from this movie. Yes, Cipher,
Speaker 2: I've seen The Matrix. There is a moment that's huge
Speaker 2: for the rights of people with uteruses, where Keanu Reeves
Speaker 2: gets an ultrasound kind of against his will to get
Speaker 2: a little bug out of him. I said, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: It reminded me of when they put like period pain
Speaker 2: simulators on cops and like, fuck, yeah, yes, Cipher, I've
Speaker 2: seen the film The Matrix. This film is one of
Speaker 2: those movies that has a chosen one, So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was in any way a Christ allegory. I
Speaker 2: didn't get that at all, but I wasn't really looking
Speaker 2: for it. But perhaps Neo is you know Jesus Christ. Hmm,
Speaker 2: and Cipher, that would explain the line at the end
Speaker 2: where somebody says what's he doing and Laurence Fishburne says,
Speaker 2: he's beginning to believe. Wait, this movie is a lot
Speaker 2: more like the Polar Express than we realized. I was
Speaker 2: just thinking about it was exactly like the Polar Express.
Speaker 2: That really is Express takes place in the Matrix, and
Speaker 2: that's why everyone looks so fucked up in it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it really is that he learns the power of believe it.
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, the stuff isn't real, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he becomes super powerful. I will say, Okay, yes,
Speaker 2: this is a real one. Yes, Cipher, I have seen
Speaker 2: the film The Matrix. What it did make me think
Speaker 2: of was the power of being able to step back
Speaker 2: from your own emotions and anxiety, because that's in therapy.
Speaker 2: Everything I've learned is just how you can think things
Speaker 2: are so real and think that you know the truth
Speaker 2: about everything, but a lot of times it's how you
Speaker 2: are feeling, is like or things you're anxious about. You're
Speaker 2: like building this world whoa self and you have to
Speaker 2: step out. I mean just like this week when I've
Speaker 2: thought everybody's mad at me, It's like, that's actually not true.
Speaker 2: Feelings are not fat. Yeah, I thought about that a
Speaker 2: few times. Are the Matrix, It's true and once you
Speaker 2: once you can go, oh that's not real, then you're like,
Speaker 2: then you're the one who's beendang in a way. SSRIs
Speaker 2: are the red and the Blue pill because they help
Speaker 2: you realize that all the stuff in your head is
Speaker 2: not what's going on in reality. And also you're super
Speaker 2: chill feel thing so true. Oh, Cipher, Yes, I've seen
Speaker 2: the Matrix and you need to do You need to
Speaker 2: realize what Keanu Reeves realized in the film, Cipher. You
Speaker 2: need to realize you're just another guy. I love that
Speaker 2: fly Away really help the world. Now fly away into
Speaker 2: the guy and now, oh my god, if men realize
Speaker 2: that they're just another guy instead of like the chosen
Speaker 2: one and a God among us and God's gift to us. Wow, James,
Speaker 2: the world now and and now that Cipher has died
Speaker 2: in the game and died in real life, Yes, we
Speaker 2: can onto our next segment, which is designed to save
Speaker 2: you something that is maybe a construct time. This is
Speaker 2: should you watch this or in which we tell you
Speaker 2: if we think you should watch this movie or if
Speaker 2: you should do something else with your time that is
Speaker 2: possibly a construct Leanna any idea? Fuck? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: you know what you could do? Oh? Okay, my, should
Speaker 2: you watch this?
Speaker 5: Or?
Speaker 2: I would say it was a lot less worse than
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be the Matrix. But
Speaker 2: if you want to just have a good time and
Speaker 2: watch something that talks about gender and how people are
Speaker 2: perceived and how we perceive ourselves, you should watch Hannah
Speaker 2: Gadsby's Gender Agenda Special on Netflix. So fun A bunch
Speaker 2: of a very diverse a bunch of gender diverse comedians does,
Speaker 2: but a huge array of agendas and planners and calendars
Speaker 2: and schedules and rod does. It's so fun. It's an
Speaker 2: hour long, it's it's a Netflix special, and everybody talks
Speaker 2: about gender in it, and no one is covered in Goop.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, gender is funny, Like,
Speaker 2: why are we doing this. Yeah, why did we do this?
Speaker 2: This is literally a construct. We know the gender is
Speaker 2: a construct Sianna, what would you say? I think instead
Speaker 2: of watching the Matrix, if you want to get the
Speaker 2: same nineteen ninety nine vibes a little bit gross and exact,
Speaker 2: same lighting, you can watch the movie Inspector Gadget Oh
Speaker 2: with Matthew Brodgers get plugged in to him. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: felt really similar to me. It's completely the same vibe
Speaker 2: of nineteen ninety nine, like science gross whatever you call
Speaker 2: this somehow, I don't know how to explain it, but
Speaker 2: it's pre nine to eleven America. It is. It is,
Speaker 2: uh all the wow factor of the eighties brought into
Speaker 2: the nineties. They were a little bit the music they play,
Speaker 2: the soundtracks are very focused on being cool, sunglass core.
Speaker 2: You could tell McDonald's was just absolutely rolling in cash
Speaker 2: at the time. I can't explain it. They just hit
Speaker 2: a billion served. I can't explain it, but but you
Speaker 2: just know, same vibes. The Inspector gas movie great. The
Speaker 2: dog in that is called brain that tells you everything
Speaker 2: you need to know about that era exactly. It's the
Speaker 2: same thing. Yeah, Anyway, these movies are the same. That's
Speaker 2: the same film twice, Leona. What would you rate they charm? Uh? Look,
Speaker 2: this movie was not for me. Yeah. That being said,
Speaker 2: a lot of people really slayed in it. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: and there reports where I was like, yes, so I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give this movie two point five cuppy cart wheels
Speaker 2: out of five. I really loved all the little acrobatics
Speaker 2: people were doing and their outfits that they all were
Speaker 2: serving looks in the coop sent me to hell. I
Speaker 2: hated it so much. So it's a film that much
Speaker 2: like the lord it gave and it took us away. Boy,
Speaker 2: that's about you. What was your number again? I got
Speaker 2: to two point five. Oh that's fair. Thanks, that's like
Speaker 2: a pretty good rating. I know. No, I feel the
Speaker 2: same way. I kind of liked this movie way more
Speaker 2: than I thought I thought it was going to hate it.
Speaker 2: But again, it was a lot more like yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: Now the parts that weren't that I wasn't paying that
Speaker 2: much attention to. So when I watch it again someday,
Speaker 2: which I would be open to doing, oh and I won't,
Speaker 2: it would be distinguished. It would be years from now,
Speaker 2: and it would be because like as as a lark,
Speaker 2: someone wants to put it on like while we're making
Speaker 2: carving pumpkins or something. Sure, oh yeah, but that's very goop. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's very goofy. But if that were to happen, I
Speaker 2: think I would probably watch more of it and maybe
Speaker 2: go oh, but I don't care for the trilogy. I
Speaker 2: don't need to know what happens in this world. I
Speaker 2: might read a Wikipedia synapsis, but beyond that, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I could be convinced. I thought it was pretty funny,
Speaker 2: but but it was best when I was paying attention
Speaker 2: to it sixty percent mm hm.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 2: I loved that oracle. That really put it in a
Speaker 2: different level of like, O, K, all right, I see
Speaker 2: what you're doing that and the like yeah, the like
Speaker 2: androgynist outfits. It was like, okay, I see what you
Speaker 2: have sticking power. Okay. Unfortunately, I think our adjective for
Speaker 2: this movie is gonna have to be cap teeth. We're
Speaker 2: gonna lose maybe a lot of listeners. Ship we can
Speaker 2: just do an asterisk.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, who so I'm going to give it. I'll
Speaker 4: also give it a two point five. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: give it two point five Determined dodge sequences.
Speaker 2: Oh, out of five bullets. Okay, alright, okay, a big Squat,
Speaker 2: Big Squad. Remember at the end when he does the
Speaker 2: big squat and wins, He does a big squat and wins.
Speaker 2: My favorite part of the movie was the Big Squat
Speaker 2: when he wins, Big Squat, Biggest Squad, Matrix and Big School.
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Speaker 2: That was one of the grossest things I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: That was horrible. You did write why am I eating
Speaker 2: a chicken sausage right now? I also had been eating
Speaker 2: during the film, and then I lost my appetite. I
Speaker 2: was eating soup.