1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: daybaq At podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify or 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: wherever you listen. It's Tuesday, the thirteenth of February, and 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm Caroline Hepki. 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today, Joe Biden says 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: he's pushing for a six week pause in fighting between 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: Israel and Hamas. 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Chip designer armstock rises by twenty nine percent in a 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: single day and nearly doubles in less than a week plus. 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: Lacking a plan, we look at why Britain's chronic housing 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: shortage is about to get even worse. 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: Negotiators from Israel, the United States, Egypt, and Katar are 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: expected to resume talks in Cairo later to discuss a 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: pause in fighting and the release of hostages being held 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: by Ingaza by Hamas. The discussions come as President Biden 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: says he's pushing for a six week pause in the conflict. 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: The United States are working on a hostage deal between 19 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: Israel and Hamas which would bring a median and sustained 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: period of common to Gaza for at least six weeks, 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: which we could then take the time to build something 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: more endurance. 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: Biden's comments were his most detailed yet about the ongoing 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: negotiations between Israel and Hamas, which the US is helping 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: to facilitate. On Monday, Israeli forces launched strikes on the 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: city of Rafa in the southern Gaza Strip, where more 27 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: than a million people have sought shelter from the fighting. 28 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: Many refugees fled the north of the territory after Israel 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: launched its retaliatory campaign against Hamas for the group's October 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: seventh attack. 31 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: In the UK, the Labor Party has withdrawn support for 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: its candidate in the upcoming Rochdale by election because of 33 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: anti Semitic remarks. The Mail on Sunday newspaper reported that 34 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: Azar Ali repeated a conspiracy theory about Israel and the 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: October seventh attack. Ali had Ali for what he'd said, 36 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: calling it deeply offensive, ignorant and false, but Labour's Pat 37 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: McFadden says that fresh information about other comments he made 38 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: has now come out and. 39 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 4: Since we've learned about those, Kyo Starmer has considered the 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 4: position and taken the tough but necessary decision to withdraw 41 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 4: support from mister Ali's candidacy. 42 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: Pat McFadden. There the deadline to replace as Our Ali 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: has passed, with the vote due on the twenty ninth 44 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: of this month. A full list of the eleven candidates 45 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: is on the Rochdale Borough Council website. 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 2: Citygroup is warning that the market needs to price in 47 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: the risk of future federal reserve hikes. Strategers at the 48 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: bank say traders should now be hedging the risk of 49 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: a very brief easing cycle followed by rate increases. The 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: analysis from the Landers economists come as FED Governor Michelle 51 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: Bowman says she doesn't see a need to cut at 52 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: the moment. 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 5: I think it's too soon to have an expectation that 54 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 5: to measure or project when and how much I think 55 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 5: we might be lowering the policy rate. I think the 56 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 5: progress that we're making on inflation is very positive. 57 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: Michelle Bowman's comments come ahead of today's US inflation print 58 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: out at one thirty pm London time. The data is 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: expected to show that price rises slowed to two point 60 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: nine percent year on year in January. That will be 61 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: the first reading below three percent since March twenty twenty one. 62 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: Stock in arm has risen again, extending a three day rally. 63 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Shares swored by twenty nine percent, closing in a record 64 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: with the chip designer almost doubling in value thanks to 65 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: the artificial intelligence boom. Bloomberg's Carol Massa says that the 66 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: gains are being fueled by the firm's projections. 67 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 6: That was fueled by that revenue forecast that the company 68 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 6: put out specifically that far far exceeded the average of 69 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 6: analyst estimate. So it's interesting there was anything specif vic today, 70 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 6: but investors continuing their three day jump to more than 71 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 6: ninety three percent in ARMS, So pretty remarkable. 72 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's chief national correspondent Carol Massa there will. The jump 73 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: comes after a blockbuster earnings report which showed that AI 74 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: spending is boosting sales for ARM and other Big beneficiaries 75 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: in the sector include Nvidia, whose sales tripled thanks to 76 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: its AI accelerated chips. 77 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: It's been just over four years since the UK officially 78 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: left the European Union. Some economists say the country, you're 79 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: still suffering the consequences. Bloomberg's twa at a Bio has 80 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: the details. 81 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 7: Brexit shrank the British economy that's according to economists at 82 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 7: Goldman Sachs, who say the UK has fallen significantly behind 83 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 7: similar nations thanks to the decision. Their research found the 84 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 7: country's real GDP has underperformed by about five percent. Reduced 85 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 7: international trade and fewer migrants are included on a list 86 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 7: of side effects that have contributed to the long term 87 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 7: cost of the move. According to the Bank, Goldman's conclusion 88 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 7: is broadly in line with other estimates about the drawbacks 89 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 7: of Brexit in London to You, added Bayo Bloomberg Radio. 90 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: Andrew Bailey says that capital rules are not responsible though 91 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: for the low UK bank valuations, but he remains puzzled 92 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: as British lenders trade below their book values. The Bank 93 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: of England governor was giving a speech in the East Midlands, 94 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: saying that he believes more reforms are needed to protect 95 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: banks from runs like the one that broke Silicon Valley 96 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: Bank UK last year. Bailey also dismissed UK recession concerns, 97 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: saying that any slow down will beat shallow. 98 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: And finally clear skies here in London, but in New York, 99 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: a snowstorm is expected to dump up to twenty centimeters 100 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: of snow on the city on Tuesday. New York City 101 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: Mayor Eric Adams has urged residents to stay home and 102 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: as closing schools for home learning instead. 103 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 8: Which Rallie encouraging New York is if you don't have 104 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 8: to go out, stay on and please use public transportation. 105 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 8: We want to minimize a number of vehicles on a 106 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 8: row so that our apparatus and vehicles can actually deal 107 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 8: with the removal of snow and make our movement in 108 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 8: the city more feasible. 109 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: Mayor of New York, Eric Adams, there are warning New 110 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: Yorker is not to go out today unless necessary. The 111 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: storm is likely to disrupt traffic and trains, with flight 112 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: cancelations and delays also expected. Now in a moment, we'll 113 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: bring you more on the ceasfire talks in the Middle East, 114 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: plus some exclusive Bloomberg analysis of the UK's home building 115 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: needs as well. But firstno, the story that caught aur 116 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: eye this morning about a case of a super yacht 117 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: under sanctions and the United States is asking for permission 118 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: to sell it. 119 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: Who knew that it would be so expensive to upkeep 120 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: one of these enormous vessels, But it is proving so 121 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: costly that the US government wants to get it off 122 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: its hands even before the court case is over. 123 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Ammiday has been one pounded in Fiji since 124 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: April of twenty twenty two. It's paying six hundred thousand 125 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: dollars the US government for the upkeep of the boat. 126 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: They're saying the cost a month are far from madas 127 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: far a month, Yeah, and the public shouldn't have to 128 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: pay them while the court considers whether to order forfeiture 129 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: of the vessel. The dispute is over the ownership of 130 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: what the US government says that it is a Russian 131 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: billionaire who was under sanctions. That's been disputed in court 132 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: at the moment. So it's a question of whether or 133 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: not the vessel, I suppose can be sold under those 134 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: rules that were applied to Russian figures after the Russian 135 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: invasion of Ukraine as well. It's a pretty impressive boat 136 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: we're talking about though, worth some three hundred million dollars. 137 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: It has a helipad and six x. 138 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: But I'm just wondering, who's I suppose who's going to 139 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: come along and snap up a bargain basement, supiot, I 140 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: don't know there we are. Yeah, look, a very interesting 141 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: story around sanctions and the consequences of course, of what 142 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: happens after those Russian sanctions. 143 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: Well, let's get more details on our top story now 144 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: and this pushed by the United States for a prolonged 145 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: pause in fighting in Gaza of at least six weeks 146 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: to allow for the release of more hostages. Our EMA 147 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: news director Rosalind Mathison joins us now for more Morning 148 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: to you, Ras, What more can you tell us? First 149 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: of all about this plan that we've heard about from 150 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: the US President. 151 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 9: Well, he didn't give a lot of detail. He just 152 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 9: said that he's pushing for this six week pause and 153 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 9: again he's been using the word pause versus ce spy 154 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 9: in the fight between Israel and Hamas in Gaza, and 155 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 9: that's to facilitate the release of the remaining Israeli hostages. 156 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 9: And that's sort of in line with what we've been 157 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 9: hearing from elsewhere. There's been differing proposals for an amount 158 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 9: of time six weeks to a couple of months, even 159 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 9: out to four months for a cease fire, but that's 160 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 9: not really the sticking point. The sticking point of some 161 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 9: of the conditions that would be included in that deal, 162 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 9: and the two primary ones that they seem to be 163 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 9: unable to agree on what would happen to the Israeli 164 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 9: troops in that scenario. Do they pull entirely out of 165 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 9: the Gaza Strip or to certain areas of the Gaza Strip? 166 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 9: And is the ceasfire paving the way for a permanent 167 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 9: ceaespire And is that the goal of any kind of 168 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 9: short term pause in the fighting. And so what we're 169 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 9: seeing is perhaps the US is trying to coax both 170 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 9: Hamas and Israel if they can't agree on something like 171 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 9: a four month or three or four months ceaspy, at 172 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 9: least to allow for something of a shorter duration, particularly 173 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 9: again to facilitate the release of those hostages. 174 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just remember about one hundred hostages were released 175 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: in a week long truce that ended on the first 176 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: of December. So that's how long ago that sort of 177 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: pause in fighting took place. There are reports of a 178 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: meeting between the CIA, Mossad, Egyptian and Katari officials today. 179 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: Is that a sign that the talks are serious? Why 180 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: is that important? Does it yield results? 181 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 9: Well, it's interesting to see that there's another meeting. We 182 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 9: know that that's happened several times. We know the Cia 183 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 9: and Mossad have been talking regularly throughout and it's to 184 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 9: see again the role of the Egyptians and the Kataris 185 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 9: in all of this, because they're seen potentially by both 186 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 9: sides as good faith actors in all of it. This 187 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 9: is probably more to share to share intelligence at the moment, 188 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 9: particularly around the location of the remaining hostages. We know 189 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 9: that Israel says that they managed to get two more 190 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 9: of them out yesterday while they were conducting those strikes 191 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 9: on Rougher near the Egyptian border, but we don't know 192 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 9: a lot about the rest of them, including their location. 193 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 9: You know, their status, how healthy they are, and so on. 194 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 9: You can imagine that this is about sharing that information 195 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 9: about their location in readiness for a potential ceasefire deal 196 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 9: which would allow them to kind of get a hold 197 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 9: of these of these hostages very quickly. So it suggests 198 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 9: at least again these efforts to keep the lines of 199 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 9: communication open to be able to pass messages between Hamas 200 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 9: and Israel. But there are those further sticking points more 201 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 9: broadly for a deal. 202 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: Ross Joe Biden also had a strong warning for Israel 203 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: and its offensive on southern Gaza, which is a place 204 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: where many people were forced to move because of fighting 205 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: elsewhere in the territory as well. How does that play 206 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: into these bigger discussions around a ceasefire. 207 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,599 Speaker 9: Well, that really is the question. This is efforts to 208 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 9: make to try and get a deal done on a 209 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 9: cease fire before Israel decides to proceed with the ground 210 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 9: offensive into Rougher. Again, that's that very sort of bunched 211 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 9: up border area with Egypt, and there are estimates of 212 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 9: more than a million people in that era at the moment, 213 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 9: a bunch of refugee camps and so on. Israel says 214 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 9: that that's also an enclave obviously for Hamas, and so 215 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 9: the impetus is the race to try and get an 216 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 9: agreement on a pause in the fighting before the Israeli 217 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 9: Prime Minister Benjamin you he decides it's time to proceed 218 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 9: with the ground defensive inside Ruffer, because if his troops 219 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 9: go into Rougher, then obviously any effort towards a sea 220 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 9: spire is off the table, at least for the short term. 221 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 9: So you know, this is why these talks going on 222 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 9: in Cairo again today and they spread to effets to 223 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 9: get to this spar. 224 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: Okay, And I say that we will continue to track 225 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: for our listeners. Roslynd Matheson, our EMEA news director, thank 226 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: you so much for being with us this morning. 227 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: Here in the UK ahead of the two by elections 228 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 2: on Thursday, the country's housing shortage is in the spotlight 229 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: once again. Exclusive analysis compiled by Bloomberg show the three 230 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: hundred thousand new homes per year target promised by the 231 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: Conservatives in twenty nineteen and later adopted by Labor in 232 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: the form of one and a half million homes over 233 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: the next parliament isn't actually enough, and that's because of 234 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: a projected surgeon population and the long running deficit in 235 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: house building. Here to explain it all is our residential 236 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: real estate reporter Damien Sheppard. Damien, good to see you 237 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: this morning. If three hundred thousand homes per year new 238 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: homes isn't enough, how many do we actually need? 239 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 240 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 10: So I have all the things that Labor and the 241 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 10: Conservatives disagree on. One thing they do agree on is 242 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 10: that three hundred thousand, three hundred thousand homes a year 243 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 10: is needed in the UK to start to solve the 244 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 10: housing deficit that we have. It was in the twenty 245 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 10: nineteen Conservative Party manifesto to target three hundred thousand homes 246 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 10: a year, and the Labor Party towards the end of 247 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 10: last year advised that one point five million homes will 248 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 10: be built over the next parliament, which averages three hundred 249 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 10: thousand a year. But we've put some calculations together based 250 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 10: on fresh population data that came out earlier this year 251 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 10: and all of the miss targets that we've had over 252 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 10: the previous parliament, and the reality is that we'd actually 253 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 10: need almost four hundred thousand homes a year to make 254 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 10: up for the shortfall during the Conservative parliament and also 255 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 10: the projected surge in population that's coming in the UK. 256 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 10: So whoever wins the next general election may have to 257 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 10: look at those numbers again and factor in that only 258 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 10: an average of about two hundred thousands of built a 259 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 10: year since twenty nineteen, so they're going to need to 260 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 10: roughly double that. 261 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, how easy is it to really do that? I mean, 262 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, and we haven't even included the fact, you know, 263 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand single unit apartments is not the same 264 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: as a big house that might house many people. But look, 265 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: how is the government going to actually try to improve 266 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: the housebuilding numbers then. 267 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, look, I mean, at least in the short term, 268 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 10: it's going to be very difficult. We've seen a massive 269 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 10: drop in the number of homes going under construction and 270 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 10: fewer homes are being granted planning permission per year now 271 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 10: even those with planning. Of those, about three hundred thousand 272 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 10: potential homes are yet to even go on site in 273 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 10: the UK because the numbers just aren't adding up for 274 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 10: the builders given inflation and high rates. So this all 275 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 10: really points to things getting even worse on the home 276 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 10: building front. Some might say the next government is inheriting 277 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 10: a bit of a mess when it comes to the 278 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 10: house building situation, so it'll be interesting to see how 279 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 10: they can tackle that. 280 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: Of course, we have those two votes this week in 281 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: the constituencies of Wellingboro and Kingswood. Are those places where 282 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: housing's go to be a big issue? 283 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, this all came to life in Wellingborough in 284 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 10: December last year. A homeless man who was sleeping in 285 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 10: the town's park was found dead on a night where 286 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 10: the temperature dropped to freezing. Now, during the pandemic, the 287 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 10: closest homeless shelter in Wellingborough was shut down, so the 288 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 10: closest one now is a thirty minute bus journey away. 289 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 10: I had a chat to the mayor of Wellingborough who 290 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 10: said there's a lot of factory workers in the town 291 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 10: who simply can't afford a place to live, and given 292 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 10: the lack of supply, demand is still high and prices 293 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 10: remain elevated. Now. The mayor admits that immigration is also 294 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 10: going to be a big vote winner this year when 295 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 10: it comes to the by election, and that's because of 296 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 10: the link to housing, when we go back to those 297 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 10: population projections showing even more people coming into the UK, 298 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 10: So housing and immigration are starting to sort of merge 299 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 10: together in these small towns as vote winners for politicians 300 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 10: and sort of you know, for people who really really 301 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 10: are getting tired of not being able to property. 302 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 303 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 304 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning on Apple, 305 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 306 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each morning on London Dab Radio, 307 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 308 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 309 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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