1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Because are sleepy because long day at more fun. 2 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: Hello, my little Housewife lovers and Heello Easton Welcome. 3 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: I'm a little housewife lover. 4 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: We are still recording from the house, you guys, because 5 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: the studio. 6 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 4: Is chaos upon chaos. Right before we started, the yard 7 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 4: guy walked by Little Wave had suddenly removed on her arm. 8 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 3: She's a blood mess. Stay up there, you freak. 9 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: But you know what, at least we have an epic 10 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: caregiver for Sosa. She will be the only one not 11 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: making noise today. I said, hello, my little Housewife lovers, 12 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: because we have completed the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunions. 13 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: All three have come out. We'll save our thoughts. But 14 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: also our sweet Celebrity sixteen is coming to an end. 15 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: That we have the winners of our what is it 16 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: final four? 17 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, the final four and then our overalls? Yeah, our 18 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: national championship game. Is that? 19 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: What it's called is the madness of March, like the 20 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: actual over now? 21 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 3: Yes? How long has it been over? 22 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 23 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: A week? Two weeks? 24 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: Who won? Who won the whole thing? 25 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: Houston, Florida. They played Houston, Florida, Florida. One Yeah, Okay, 26 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: I was born here six. 27 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 4: I know. 28 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: So let's let's pop off on that first, and then 29 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: we'll deep dive into the last two episodes of the reunions. Okay, okay, 30 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: So we had Erica Jane versus this is Lauriskitania, this 31 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: is mine, It's my number three spot versus my number four. 32 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: Erica puts everything out there for the world to see. 33 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: It gets harder every week, but Erica always stands on business. 34 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: I agree ten toes down, but so does Dolorous the Godfather. 35 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: Erica Jane. She's had the most growth in the franchise. 36 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: Erica because she has changed for the better, Erica because 37 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: she is unapologetically herself. Dolores because she is real, loyal 38 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: but also relatable. I can stand on that. Dolores is 39 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: a straight shooter, tough at times, but very caring. I 40 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: love Delores because she's so chill. But then when she's 41 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: accused of something that. 42 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: Then the mob boss comes out, Oh. 43 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: She'll call you to see you next Tuesday, And I'm. 44 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: Right there to cheer her on for a second time. 45 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: We all are saying again, Delores because she's the first 46 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: housewife to win Traders. Dolores because she's the glue of 47 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: Jersey Dolores because she's about family and friends value. I agree, 48 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: And I think that's why I kind of relate to 49 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: her a lot, because she is yeah, and she's all 50 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: about like not only just the blood family, but like 51 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: her chosen family that she writes hard for. And I 52 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: just have mad respect for her because Frank, her ex 53 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: husband and father of her two children, like really loved 54 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: boats and hoes, and she's still like, got over it 55 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: and let him live with her. She's a I don't 56 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: think I could do it. 57 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: I think I see. 58 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: I think I look at her and go, I wish 59 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: I could be more like you. 60 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: We all say that. 61 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm cool with whoever wins this, honestly, who 62 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: Who's yours? 63 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: Easton? Uh Number one Shannon Badour Verse four Kyle Richards. 64 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: Damn Shannon Badore coming still sitting crazy. 65 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: I'm kind of rooting for her right now too. I 66 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: think everyone is Shannon because she knows her real life Shannon. 67 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: She never hides from her life. Oh she what did 68 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: I say? 69 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: No, don't worry, I read just as bad as I 70 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: came a FOP court. Do not ask me to read aloud. 71 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: She knows and shows her real life. She never hides 72 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 3: from her life situations like other women do. Shannon, She's 73 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: overcome a lot of turmoil and still stays funny. Shannon. 74 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: She's endured so much and did with Grace. Shannon, she 75 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: had a great season last year. I do agree with that, 76 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: with all the bullshit she was getting thrown at her, 77 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: for her to keep going and keep her head, she 78 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: she did all right. Kyle is an og and has 79 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: a heart of gold. What she is for Teddy is amazing. Agreed. 80 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: Kyle because she is super consistent season after season. Kyle 81 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: because she is the most authentic housewife of all time. 82 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: Kyle because her personality and character are fun to watch. 83 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: I agree, she doesn't like she shares a lot, but 84 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: I feel like there's so much juicy stuff that she 85 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: keeps from people, and I think that's why so many 86 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: people have enjoyed her she's been on. She's the longest 87 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: running housewife from start to where she is now fourteen 88 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: years on a show as wild I know, and I 89 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: just find her to be very interesting, Like even when 90 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: she doesn't say a lot, her eyes kind of say everything. 91 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: There's more right, Like I was watching the reunion and 92 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: like people like Erica Jane, she's got such a good 93 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: poker face, whereas Kyle she's asked a question, it's like, well, 94 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 2: you really don't even need to answer because your face 95 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: and there are telling us everything. 96 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 3: You to know, like the Maurice. 97 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get into it. Who won, all right? 98 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: So representing Walla in the finals will be Erica Jane, 99 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: she won was sixty five point seven percent, Janius, you okay? 100 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: And representing Easton will be Kyle Richards who won with 101 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: sixty two point nine. 102 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: It's a walk off to walk off. Why does it 103 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: make me so happy that on the heels of the 104 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunions airing that we have 105 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: in Erica Jane versus Kyle Richards, It was just so 106 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: meant to be. 107 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like people they knew what 108 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: they were doing when they were voting. 109 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: I don't think so. Bravo fans are very authentic to 110 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: how they they feel and it I mean, it's one 111 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: of those things where you can have an unpopular opinion 112 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: and like no one is going to know that it's you. 113 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: Very true. Yeah, love that excited for this one though, 114 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: But I really do hope I take the cake. 115 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: You're not going to. Oh, I asked people in the 116 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: in the Instagram pod page who won the reunion, so 117 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: you're definitely not going to. 118 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: Well, did Erica win it? 119 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna tell you yet, Okay. Number three Erica 120 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: Jane versus Number four Kyle Richards. Erica is representing Team 121 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: La La. Kyle is representing Team Easton. Erica from glam 122 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: to courtroom to back to filming, she remains standing in heels. 123 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: Erica the badest, the most loyal, who doesn't give a 124 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: fuck what anyone thinks. This was tough because I love 125 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: them both so much, but Kyle has held her diamond 126 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: the longest. Kyle is an icon, but Erica has fought 127 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: like hell to rebuild her life and that kind of 128 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: strength is unremarkable. Love a sassy queen like EJ. Kyle 129 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 2: seems to think she can show or not show whatever 130 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: she wants. EJ can't stand Kyle's double standards for literally 131 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: everything every phase Erica has gone through, she has been 132 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: so iconic and she has been her authentic self. No 133 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: matter what. Erica, She's overcome so much and is still 134 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: solid to the core. Love them both and so proud 135 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 2: of these wonderful women. But team Kyle. Oh I loved 136 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: that answer, stated who she wants, but also giving, giving, 137 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: giving credit where credit is due. Erica because she has 138 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: put all her private life out there, while Kyle, I 139 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: feel still censors and only allows us to see the 140 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: image she wants us to see. Kyle, she has always 141 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: been consistent. I don't know. I love her, Kyle. She 142 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: has she has the longest running housewife and takes unnecessary 143 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: shit from everyone like a pro. This is a good one. 144 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: I feel like they both really show up and do 145 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: the job, and they may do it differently, but we 146 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: still tune in and watch them and enjoy it. So 147 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: whether you sit and go, oh, I can't stand this housewife, 148 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: or oh, I love this housewife, you're. 149 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: Still giving you something you want. By the way, even 150 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 3: if you don't know it. 151 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with her. I hate her one and the 152 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: same on the season too, literally the exact same feeling. Yeah, 153 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: because if you loved them all, you wouldn't watch, and 154 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 2: if you hated them all, you wouldn't watch. You have 155 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 2: to have the perfect combination. Polarizing television. Yes, So who's 156 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: our winner? La La Easton the first ever Give Them 157 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen goes to Erica Jane. 158 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 3: See I how by what? Yes, damn Kyle Richards. 159 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that was a blood to blowout. 160 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's a blowout. 161 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a pretty big gap. Yeah, I'm gonna. 162 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 3: Erica Jane, Erica Jane, I like. 163 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: Being a winner. All right, let's deep dive into episodes 164 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: two and three of the reunion because we haven't done 165 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: that yet. Okay, did you watch episode two? Please tell 166 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: me that you did. 167 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: I did. I watched two and three? 168 00:09:55,080 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: You did? Okay, So I I think Andy Cohn has 169 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 2: a really, really tough job, and he's great at it. 170 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: I don't know that I could handle. There's a reason 171 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: why he is where he is, right. He does all 172 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: of the reunions, he's done the Kardashian reunions. He's able 173 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: to ask questions that are so uncomfortable, And I was 174 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: like sitting there wondering, like, is he going to really 175 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: kind of grill Kyle about this Morgan Wade relationship or 176 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: lack of relationship. And I do feel although I said that, Kyle, 177 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: you know, I feel like she gives us a lot 178 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: even when she's not saying much and I do stand 179 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: by that. 180 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: However, I ask, is it because she shows like just 181 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: a lot of emotion without saying a lot. 182 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: Well, I think that I go back. I don't just 183 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: base it season by season. I kind of go back 184 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: through all of it. And she really showed a tough 185 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 2: time with her sister Kim back. I think it was 186 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: like season one or two, Like she's really given us 187 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: a lot. And I think as the show has grown 188 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: and as she's kind of grown as a person, I 189 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: do think she sits there and goes, you know, what 190 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: is worth talking about and what. 191 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: Is not, what is private, and what is work? 192 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a fine line, you know. And I 193 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: because she's so seasoned, you know, fourteen years of a 194 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: show that's no joke. 195 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: You know what you're doing though. 196 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: You know what you're doing, you know what's important, and. 197 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: You know how what comes of what you're going to do, 198 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: the repercussions. Fourteen years of that will teach. 199 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: You, right. However, I do feel like she does get 200 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: treated a bit differently than most housewives in what way, 201 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: in the way of I think because she's the first, 202 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: and yet she has shown a lot and I've heard 203 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: she's very easy to work with. I think because of 204 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 2: all of those things, she definitely gets a little bit of. 205 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: Leniency, like with production or just within all of With. 206 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: All that and overall with the girls, I think they 207 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: kind of tiptoe and and I know that that's why 208 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: Garcelle was so annoyed. I know that feeling of going 209 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: in to a season and feeling like you don't have 210 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: your teammate, and I think she feels like she lost 211 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 2: that with Sutton and we're gonna, we're gonna go into that. 212 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 3: I do want to talk about that, because I yeah, we're. 213 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: Going to But Andy, you know, definitely grilled Kyle. 214 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: And it's his demeanor and the way he's suddenly like 215 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: he'll subtly drop his voice when that hard question is 216 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: coming out. Have you got that right? He'll be like, 217 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 3: you've seen. 218 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: A lot of things in the press, but but it's 219 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: so true. Like it's wild that last season Morgan was 220 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: kind of paraded around and then this season there's no 221 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: mention of even her name. I don't think that people 222 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 2: understand the level of fandom. When you're filming, it's no 223 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: big deal. Right when you're watching, it's no big deal 224 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: when you're in it, and the floodgates are now open 225 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: to your life, to your life, and everyone is allowed 226 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 2: to have an opinion and write and say whatever they want. 227 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 2: It can become suffocating very very quickly. So I understand 228 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: that Morgan probably signed up at the beginning. But you say, 229 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: I'm signing up for a show. What you don't realize 230 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 2: is you're signing up for the rest of all. Your 231 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: signing up for the heat. 232 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 3: Yes, and other people's opinions about you, the little keyboard 233 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: typers yes, and that compressed. And that's one thing that 234 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: Andy was like, well, she's a singer, she's in the 235 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: like in the press, like she shouldn't get anxiety about this. 236 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: And it's like, Andy, such a different Go up and 237 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: perform something you've created, Yeah, and not get anxiety. You 238 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: know what you're doing, you know the levels. It's a 239 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: different times you're having a conversation and being attacked and 240 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: this and that. I'm sorry, your anxiety gets a bit 241 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: different totally. 242 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: However, this is where they lost me, the whole Morgan 243 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: and Kyle situation. They film, the press starts picking things up, 244 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: and then they do the music video of them as lovers. Yeah, 245 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: so you say you don't want the smoke. 246 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: What they want is what she said, right, didn't Kyle said, 247 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: we we thought we might as well give the people 248 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: what they want. 249 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: So you can't give the people what they want and 250 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: then say, but don't talk about me on the show 251 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: that created. 252 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: All of it exactly. 253 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense, I do. 254 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: It's a it's a double standard on it in all honesty, 255 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: It's like a rock and a hard spot. You can't 256 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: have your cake and eat it too well. 257 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: It was one a few times that I agreed with 258 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: Garcel when she said she didn't sign up for it 259 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: this season, Like you can't just give us. 260 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: A whole bunch and then strip us. I don't know anymore. 261 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 3: I know a lot. 262 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: Kyle, texting p K Durit, accused her of breaking girl code. 263 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: I have to be honest, I'm really sick of that 264 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: freaking word girl code. Girl code. None of us are 265 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: following it, none of us, like the whole women not 266 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: supporting women. It's like we throw it around in such 267 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: a way that that too becomes suffocating, Like you can't 268 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: expect just because someone is another woman that you support them. 269 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: It's I have been labeled that before, and it put 270 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: a tremendous target on my back, almost like I have 271 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: to support you blindly because if I don't, it's that 272 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: I don't support women. So I don't. I didn't love 273 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: that being thrown around this season. Yeah, I think Erica 274 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: Jane actually has found the gray when it comes to 275 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: like supporting women, but supporting women that you actually support, 276 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: not just because they're a woman. But I want to 277 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: know what was actually sat on the phone call between 278 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: PK and Kyle, because the whole reason why you and 279 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: Durite fell off was because of your relationship with PK. 280 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: So why are we going back to the hotel room 281 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: to call him? What was said? I do not think 282 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: her intentions were. 283 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: Bad though Kyle's. Yeah, I think she's so deeply in 284 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: love with Mo that PK obviously is just a friend. 285 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: I think so too, But I don't think that Drey 286 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: thinks it's anything beyond friendship. It's just more it's a 287 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: girl code. 288 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: It's like friend. Yes, you chose PK over me? I 289 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: adds hard because once you know how long were they together? 290 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: Fourteen years? 291 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: I think it was like fourteen years. 292 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so fourteen years you brought this man into Yes, 293 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: your friend group, but he also brought you into his 294 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: after fourteen years, your my significant other's friends are going 295 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: to become my friends. 296 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, though, Deurrey and Kyle were 297 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: not in a good place, and so Derrey has stood 298 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: ten toes down on the fact that it has nothing 299 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 2: to do with the fact that you reached out to 300 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: p K. Has to do with the fact that you 301 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: and I were not good at all, and you reached 302 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: out to PK like I wish that you would have 303 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: made it right with me, checked in on me instead 304 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: of when I go through the hardest time of my life. 305 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: You're on his side first, like I needed you. And 306 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: Derrey has said I'm holding onto that Amazon Live that 307 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 2: you did Kyle where you said I exaggerated our friendship, 308 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: and I can imagine that that was extremely hurtful. I 309 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: I don't know whose side I'm on because it's so nuanced, 310 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: and I don't think anyone wins in this. But it's 311 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: similar to, maybe not similar, how Brittany felt when I 312 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: reached out to Jack's about his sobriety and how betrayed 313 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: she felt, And it was like I could I can 314 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: absolutely see your side, and it makes all the sense, 315 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: but it's such a fine line that you're walking. You 316 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: literally can't win. 317 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's all of those are based on emotions, 318 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: and emotions are personal and you can't tell how to feel. 319 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: So that's my biggest thing, is like, when somebody comes 320 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: up with a feeling, it's not up to me to 321 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: make you feel the way I felt. Yeah, it's up 322 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: to me now to understand why you felt that way 323 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 3: and to understand it and to tell you that my 324 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: intentions were not that. 325 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 2: I'm all about the intent behind Yes. 326 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: Me and Mo were talking yesterday about pride and how 327 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: sorry is like not Mauricio no no, no, no, yes, 328 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 3: no no, just a buddy of mine. And we were 329 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 3: just talking about like honesty and all of that and 330 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: being apologetic and saying sorry and just sitting behind everything 331 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: you say and even if you have to apologize about it, 332 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: how much your words start to mean right? You know? 333 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? And you know the phone all to PK did 334 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: fall on the I think the time period of Deree 335 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 2: and PK's son being hospitalized. He had an injury that 336 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 2: I don't want to misspeak. I remember Durit opened up 337 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 2: to me about this when we did watch wapins live together. 338 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: I believe it was like staff infection. I mean, he 339 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: they were very worried about his life. So she also 340 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: said that that was another another reason. 341 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 3: That Kyle was reaching out to PK. 342 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like it was kind of just like 343 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: for yeah, like a very blanketed phone call of like 344 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: a check in. This is what's going on in Ocean Side. 345 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: I hope everything's okay. I did love when Jennifer Tilly 346 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: came out and she's like eating on the couch. 347 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 3: Her Katy Hilton the best they really And I like 348 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: how Kathy is just a friend of just living the life. 349 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: How she was laughing like Kyle, maybe I'm a lesbian, 350 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: maybe I'm not a lesbian. Journey and Kyle get it out, serious, 351 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: get it out. 352 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: But who knows what has been said behind closed doors 353 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: with them that Kathy is just like having to just. 354 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: I love Kathy Hilton. She's the comedic relief that we need. 355 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: And same with Jennifer Tilly. And these are these are 356 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: women who literally have access to anything and everything, but 357 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: they act like mom, Yeah, like fit clueless. 358 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 3: That's what they're So that's why they're great. 359 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 2: I tell them all the time. I'm like you are 360 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: Kathy Hilton, except you not rich like at all. 361 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: But I like Tilly because she just speaks and even 362 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 3: just apologetic right. 363 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: As a faults. It's like, hold on, I've heard of 364 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 2: a safety deposit box. You got a ball, which I 365 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: would see that they don't even do safety deposit boxes anymore. 366 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: Like what are you keeping up in. 367 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: That vault a lot of bags? 368 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: Let's before we move on to part three, because it 369 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: did carry into part three during making the comment about 370 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: someton not living like the Queen of Siva. You live 371 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: on the main the main road we drive past. 372 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: I drive by Sutton's house constantly and never once what 373 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 3: I want to pull in or out of that fucking driveway. 374 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I, okay, it's she is a valley going to say, 375 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 2: we're not going to say the road very beautiful home. 376 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: This road lots and lots of traffic of going from 377 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: one side of the hill to the other. It is 378 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: very intensely. 379 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: It's like five main roads that kind of go that 380 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 3: through the valley and stuff. She's just on one of them. 381 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 3: There's just five roads that are constantly packed. 382 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: But let me tell you something, she's one. Let's let 383 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: me tell you, though, it is prime real estate. It's 384 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: if you don't have a regular old job where you 385 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: have to leave between the hours of. 386 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 3: Eight and ten eight and ten home between five and seven. 387 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 2: No, but like her day is probably very different than 388 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: someone who has to make that commute, So who cares. 389 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: What I love about that house is that it gives 390 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: you the hubbub, which I'm obsessed with. I talk about 391 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 2: this all the time that I love this house because 392 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: I like being in the hubbub. But with Sutton's house, 393 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 2: and I'm sure her house is between ten and fifteen 394 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: million dollars maybe more. 395 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, beautiful. I'm not going to say it's not. 396 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 2: But she's got the hubbub with the seclusion at the 397 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: same time she does. 398 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 3: But I'm you like the hubbub, but let no I do. 399 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: But it Sutton's room. I can literally look up into 400 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: it from the street. I was watching the show and 401 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 3: I was like, that is literally where I was looking 402 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: at her doing her makeup, Okay, and that is where 403 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, you are close to a main road for 404 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: who you are in my opinion, Like I'm not kidding. 405 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 3: I was driving down there. 406 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 2: Was scrapes, I mean, for a while I couldn't get 407 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: a shower. 408 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 3: Because there were trucks and all of that, and I 409 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: was like, oh, no way, And I looked up and 410 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: there was lights and I just saw her doing like 411 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: makeup because I. 412 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: Was stopped, and fine, you got an IRL makeup tutorial. 413 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: For about fifteen minutes, stuck in traffic right outside of 414 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: her fucking house. I don't know. 415 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: What's his name. Andy Cohne was like, you're giving her 416 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: crap for living on a main road in bel Air. 417 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: I'd take it. How big of me? Part three bows 418 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: stole the show. 419 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 3: She stole the season. 420 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 2: I think she was fantastic. 421 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 3: She cannot be fucked with. Yeah, like anybody who goes 422 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 3: toes with her, they all just say upart. They were 423 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 3: all like, no, you're right, I do need to take accountability. 424 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 3: And it's because that woman was at Apple and Netflix 425 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 3: and because of her status. I feel like people are like, goddamn. 426 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: So it was like you were yelling. I did not yell, 427 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: and she didn't. 428 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: You came in very strong. I am strong. Oh. 429 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: The line was all. 430 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: The seasons ever to exist of Housewives. 431 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 3: And I will say I love how in my opinion, Okay, 432 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: I love how Bose's confidence has rubbed off on to read. 433 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 2: So I want to read this because I actually found 434 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 2: this to be a really, really interesting take. First, let's 435 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: discuss Garcel, but on the heels of bows. So Garcel 436 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 2: was very strange the entire reunion, Okay, and the comment 437 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 2: about no one has smiled at me? Can't we got here. 438 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: I can't remember who said it, but she was like, 439 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 3: have you smiled at anyone? And I want to either 440 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 3: say it was Erica or Dread, but somebody said like, 441 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: she was like, nobody smiled at me this whole time, 442 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: and somebody goes, well, have you been smiling at any money? 443 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: Not at all. She was actually mean mug in the 444 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: whole time, and I love a mean mug but with answers, 445 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: but also like every single person on the couch was 446 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 2: mean muggin. Reunion day is the most intense day of 447 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: the entire season, and you. 448 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: Can tell with them pulling up at the crack of 449 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: dawn and Garcel walking out after not wanting the pictures 450 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: to pitch black. 451 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: It's a long day. 452 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: It is a long day, yes, and. 453 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: I'm saying we're talking twelve hours at times from the 454 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: time you wake up and get the day pop into 455 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: the time you roll home. You have been exhausted with 456 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: calls from production. Get glam. You can't have water yet, 457 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 2: you can't take a pee break. We're on type schedule. 458 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 3: To sit on a couch and to look proper the 459 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: whole time while you're listening. Yes, while listening while thinking 460 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 3: that never happened. I remember this while still having to remember. 461 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 3: I will tell you podcasts. 462 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: Okay. So someone said. 463 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: No, like, I just can't believe how you like you 464 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: guys get thrown. I really don't meant. 465 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: So, I asked the the IG world. I asked the 466 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: podcast page who was the star of the reunion. A 467 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 2: lot of people said Durite. A lot of people said 468 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: Erica Jane. A lot of people said bos Right. I 469 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: think Bo's was the star, just like literally, just based 470 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: on that. 471 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: I could see how people, Honestly, I don't Erica Jane 472 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: obviously was great. I don't think she like stole it 473 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 3: even I love her. But I thought either Bo's or 474 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: dared I thought Durite was great. I can see how 475 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 3: people would pick Tourite because of how she's standing up 476 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: for herself, and like I said, I feel like Bo's 477 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: is giving her that. 478 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you what this person's take was. 479 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: This person said Bo's and Garcel hated it, and that's 480 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: why she threw her tantrum. Everything about her I did 481 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 2: not even think about that. No, I felt like, for 482 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 2: the first time ever, she was looking at bows as 483 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 2: a newcomer, and she was very adamant about holding people accountable, 484 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: including Dearit. She said, Durit, you were intentional about making 485 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: that comment about Sutton's drinking. She was calling it all 486 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 2: out as she saw it. And remember, like you said, 487 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: she's worked in rooms Netflix. 488 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: Yes, you go into those rooms. 489 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: You have to keep a logical head. And I have 490 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: to imagine that they're very male driven in those rooms, 491 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 2: So you have to be on your game because just 492 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: the fact that you're a woman, especially a woman of color, 493 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: in those rooms, you've got to be on your shit. 494 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 2: And she was so great. 495 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 3: She said, I don't yell, and right when she said that, 496 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 3: I was like, and I know fucking why, because you've 497 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: been in rooms even when people are yelling at you, 498 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: you kept your cool because that's what gets to people. 499 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: Well, I can imagine just as a woman, people you 500 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 2: raise your voice. Oh, she's emotional, is she on her period? 501 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: Like so, I just I take what Bo says and 502 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: it's Bible, it is gold, it is right. But I 503 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 2: found that to be an interesting take that Garcel hated 504 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: that the newcomer may have been the one to kind 505 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: of shine, and that's that's a tough pill to swallow. 506 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 3: I don't care anybody, anybody who has been on that 507 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: show for an extended period of time. 508 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: I definitely did feel bad for some because Garcel did 509 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: not defend her in any of the moments. And I 510 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: get it. She was holding on to the fact that 511 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: she wasn't her rider die when Garcel felt it, felt 512 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: she needed it the most at the very end, at 513 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: the very end, and in a way like you guys know, 514 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: I'm not the biggest fan of garcels and I I 515 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: don't know that she I don't think she added anything 516 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: to Real Housewives. But I don't think she was in 517 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: the wrong for talking about Morgan Wade. I just don't know. 518 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: You brought her on the show. She's fair game. Now, 519 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: this is what it is. You don't get to like. 520 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: You don't get to bring someone in and then change 521 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: the rules when it doesn't fit for you. 522 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: I wish somebody else would have piggybacked off of her 523 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: and Andy on that Garcelle felt abandoned and I know 524 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: that feeling to my core, and you want to sob 525 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: and run away and you want to call everyone assholes, 526 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 3: just like she did, and she did. 527 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: Run away, and I felt for her in that moment. 528 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: I feel for Sutton because I think that she's someone 529 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: who wants to fit in with this group so badly 530 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: and she wants them to like her. And I think 531 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: the only reason, as vile as the comment was about 532 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: her wallet being bigger than Duret's, the only reason that 533 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: was someone who was so insecure and she was backed 534 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: in a corner and the only thing she had, the 535 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: only card she had to play money was the money card. 536 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: So it was viole and disgusting and low. But I 537 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: can take a moment and say, you know what, I'm 538 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: going to give you grace because you have felt like 539 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: you're on an island by yourself and you had to 540 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: attack in some way and that was there was card. 541 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you only had one. You only had one thing 542 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: left in your bag to play and that was the card. 543 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Portia. When they get into the UH conversation where 544 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 2: Kathy Hilton was laughing, Oh yeah, I thought it was 545 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: so sweet when Kyle talked about how her youngest Portia, 546 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: who is like sixteen, is a year and a half 547 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: away from going to college. How she said there is 548 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: nothing that you could ever do to make us not 549 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: love you, and Andy goes, that's what's my dad said 550 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: to me when I came out. Let's be clear, I 551 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: wasn't coming out. I'm just saying, like, there's nothing more 552 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: that you want to think, Kyle. They could have shared 553 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: that moment, but she was like, whole, I know the 554 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: press so well, I know the headlights so well. Like 555 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: Kyle Richards comes out and Portia, her daughter says, I 556 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: love her no matter what. 557 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, just a hand grab, clickbait, just the clickbait. 558 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: But I thought that the very end was great. I 559 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: love to eat saying that's very unprofessional. Let's remember you, guys, 560 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: this is real life, but at the same time, we're 561 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: filming a fucking reality show. This is real life, but 562 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: it's also my job. Is it's also my job. There's 563 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: production here, there's call times given. Yes, they're getting glam by. 564 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 3: You're taking people's time. 565 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: Yes, there's millions of people watching so the way that 566 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: that went down, like Kyle said, she was like, what 567 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: Garcel went through was child's play. 568 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 3: I kind of agree. And for her to say and 569 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: I hope we get a reunion photo. She was the 570 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: one who brought it up, and then she's the one 571 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 3: who dips out. 572 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: And that's why I stand by the fact that she 573 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: left the reunion. It had nothing to do with her kids. 574 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 2: She was not ready for the very little smoke that 575 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 2: came her way. It was basically nothing. 576 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 3: No, it was nothing at all. I think she just 577 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: maybe all she needed was somebody to just back her 578 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: up and that was it. And I feel like the 579 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 3: other thing that crushed her and she would have gotten 580 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 3: a photo, I think, And in my opinion, Sutton should 581 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 3: have given Garcel grace for going to She. 582 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 2: Wants people to like her. She wants people to. 583 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: Like Augusta to meet her mom like that, Like that's 584 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 3: a big surprise. 585 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: That's against to like try and put her in check 586 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: for her friend. 587 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 3: Like those are the things that like I'm surprised with. 588 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 3: And I barely watched a lot of it, you know, 589 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: I watched something, but like when that was asked, I 590 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 3: was like, that was pretty in my opinion, shitty on 591 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 3: Sutton's park to have her go to things so close 592 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 3: to you that you are going to mourn as well 593 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: as rebuild yourself. Yeah, and she goes and takes on 594 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 3: your mom right in my opinion, Sutton, does she Garsel 595 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: deserved some sort of grace on that last question of 596 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: from Sun. 597 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: So I will say this off of what I just said. 598 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: That's why she was like fuck this, I don't care 599 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: for a photo. 600 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, and I agree with you. And even though 601 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: I may not be a fan of Garcel's in the 602 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: sense of like her being on reality TV and no, 603 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: the smoke was not as intense as she made it 604 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: out to be. In leaving it was like unprofessional. But 605 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: I will say I think Garcel is a fabulous mother. 606 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: I think she's extremely talented. I think she's a great friend. 607 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,959 Speaker 2: And I just think that she does not thrive in 608 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: this type of environment. It takes a lot out of you. 609 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: The trolls are intense, the group of women are intense. 610 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: I think had she stayed, she would have and a 611 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: lot of people checking in on her. It's actually it's 612 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: sad the way that that ended. 613 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's easy to look back on it. 614 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 2: Now and think that, Yeah, you know, it's always hindsight. Baby, 615 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 2: Hindsight has the greatest vision. 616 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 3: Hindsight It's twenty. I love it. 617 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 2: Thank you guys for listening to a bonus episode of 618 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 2: the Give Them While podcast We Love You. A regular 619 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: old episode is going to air Wednesdays, and then we'll 620 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: catch you again for another boner next week. 621 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 3: Back