1 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing and we will break down the 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Ravens forty one to thirty one victory over the Tampa 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers, putting the Ravens now at five and two. 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: They have rattled off five straight wins after starting the 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: season zero to two, and. 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: They are rolling now. 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, this offense is playing out of its mind. Kind 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: of a crazy game for the Ravens. It starts out 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: they're behind early and it looks like, oh no, trouble 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: maybe around the corner here, and the Ravens turn it 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: around and just put it on the Bucks in a 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: game that was really not nearly as close as the 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: final score indicse. 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, it was an exciting win. 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: I mean, this was a game that Monday night football 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: against one of the best teams in the NFC that 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: was rolling, that was hot, really good offense, and for 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: the Ravens to get this win, and I think it 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: speaks volumes to how this team is playing. And you 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: can you can feel the energy of the excitement after 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: this game. We were recording this here in the press 23 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 3: room and Raymond James Stadium as the team is getting 24 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: ready to take off, and you know that locker room, 25 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: it was, it was excited, it was there was the 26 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: way I would describe it is like there was excitement, 27 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: there was joy, but they're also like, was this real? 28 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: Okay? 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: This is just what we expect, Like there's an expectation 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: that I think that this team has for the way 31 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 3: that they should play, and we saw that for a 32 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: good portion of tonight's game. 33 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: Yep, we got to start with Lamar Jackson. 34 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: The Ravens offense scored thirty four unanswered points and Lamar 35 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: put up five touchdowns. Jackson five, Baby Jackson five is alive, 36 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: and well, my friend, he's I mean, when you think 37 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: about some of Lamar's most epic performances, Monday Night comes 38 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: to mind. You know the one in La back in 39 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, the original Jackson five, that was the original 40 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: Jackson vibe exactly. I thought he was better in this 41 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: Jackson five. I think this one takes the cake. And 42 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: it really when he gets on this stage, I mean, 43 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: it's it's another level. It seems like to Lamar Jackson 44 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: and the competitor that he is, and he almost had 45 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: a perfect game tonight finished seventeen to twenty two for 46 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty one yards. Like we said, the 47 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: five passing touchdowns also ran for fifty two yards. And oh, 48 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: by the way, was the lead black for Derrick Henry 49 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: on a long run. 50 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: Yeah. 51 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: So, I mean, just a ridiculous night for Lamar Jackson 52 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: that you know, we've all said talked about Lamar's playing 53 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: the best football of his career. You know, is he 54 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: leading the MVP race, Which I don't think there's any 55 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: doubt about that. I mean, it's now becoming almost commonplace, 56 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: like these kind of performances from Lamar, especially on primetime. 57 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: It's like hard to expect it because it's just such 58 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: like it's hard to expect a quarterback to throw five 59 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: touchdown passes and play as well as he is, Right, but. 60 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: Don't do that every week. 61 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: But I think that, like there really was a feeling 62 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: when the Ravens were down early in this game. The 63 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: Bucks jumped out to a ten point lead early in 64 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: this game, and the Ravens had a feeling. 65 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: Of all right, whatever, it's to be fine. 66 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: And I actually asked for Sean Bateman about that after 67 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: the game, and I'm like, what were the conversations, and 68 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: he's like, you don't need to have a conversation when 69 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: you know you got number eight on your side, like 70 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: there's nothing to say, Like we're fine. And I just 71 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: think that like that confidence breeds success and we're seeing 72 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: that with how the Ravens are playing. 73 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: And man, it was. 74 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: Like you just you can't again, you can't expect that 75 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: from him every single game, but he is doing it 76 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: at such a consistent level. But like you almost do. 77 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: You almost expect at least an element of this. You 78 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: expect some rouse of dazzl, you expect some miraculous play. 79 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: I think I think that you expect that at some 80 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: point during the game, the offense is just gonna just step. 81 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna be pedal of the metal, and they're gonna 82 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: be really hard to stop. Like it's just hard for 83 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: me to imagine at this point of world in which 84 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: the Ravens offense gets held down all game like. 85 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: They just seem you know. 86 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: And even tonight, I thought one of the bigger takeaways 87 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: for me was the Ravens did not play a perfect 88 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: game tonight. On either side of the ball. There were 89 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: a lot of penalties for the Ravens. I think nine 90 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: penalties tonight, a number of holding calls, and they still 91 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: overcame that to put up forty one points and play 92 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: the way they did. 93 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: Right. 94 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: Like early in the first two losses of the season, 95 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: penalties killed them in both of those games and ultimately 96 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: led to losses. Yeah, tonight, they had those things. They 97 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: stubbed their toe, they dropped interceptions, they had all these things. 98 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: But then on the flip side, they still had the 99 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: big plays. I mean, case in point, they had a 100 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: touchdown wiped off the board by a holding penalty. Next 101 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: very next play, Justice Hill takes a running back a 102 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: screen in the Enzo. Yeah, right, Like that kind of 103 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: encapsulated what this Knight was to a degree for the Ravens. 104 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't a beautiful game from start to finish, but 105 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: my god, they scored forty one points. 106 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,559 Speaker 2: It was pretty beautiful offense. 107 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you had some penalties, but like it was 108 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 3: pretty It was pretty darn good on offense if you 109 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: were just moving the ball consistently all throughout the game, 110 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: and like. 111 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: Well not really, I mean early on they were taking 112 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: in sacks and they. 113 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: Had what the first drive was bad, the first shot. 114 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: In the second drive, they marched down the field in 115 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 3: like seven plays in two minutes, and then they scored 116 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: thirty four unanswered points. So they did have one bad 117 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 3: drive to open the game, but from there it was 118 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: really a thing of beauty until until that basically the 119 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: play that elongated the game in the fourth quarter, which 120 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: was the pass yeah to Zay Flowers, like that all 121 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 3: of a sudden made the fourth quarter last like three 122 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: hours long and just like just end this game. And 123 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: the Bucks kind of came back and got some late 124 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: points there. 125 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: But it's a good offensive game when you go punt, touchdown, touchdown, 126 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: field goal, field goal, touchdown, touchdown. 127 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's pretty good. That's playing at a high level. 128 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: It looked like the conversation starts with Lamar, but it 129 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: wasn't just him, Like you had a bunch of guys 130 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: on the team who came up with big plays. Like 131 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 3: I think we need to talk about Rashat Bateman. He 132 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: had a career high in receiving yards, had the long 133 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 3: touchdown pass and yeah, one hundred and twenty one receiving 134 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: yards for Rashat Bateman, and yeah, the the touchdown, what 135 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 3: was it forty. 136 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: Nine harder, Yeah, I mean forty nine ridiculous throw, great catch. 137 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: That's what we've been waiting to see from Rashad Bateman 138 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: for so long. And that's what John Harball said after 139 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: the game. He said, it's gratifying to see that right, 140 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 1: Like we've seen him the comeback rounds, the route running, 141 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: hit in the short to intermediate stuff and to be 142 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: able to shake defenders and like we've been like, man, 143 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: when's that deep ball gonna hit between Lamar and Rashad 144 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: Bateman And boom there it is, right, Like besides the 145 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: Marlin Humphrey interceptions, that to me was the play of 146 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: the game. 147 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: That was just a huge play. 148 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: Well, Rashad made the point like the whole narrative, he said, 149 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: the narrative that me and Lamar don't have a connection, 150 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: Like that's not real, Like that's media driven, Like that's 151 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 3: not an actual thing. 152 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 2: We've always had a connection. 153 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: And he said they were calling that play in practice, 154 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 3: felt like there was a chance it could get called 155 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: in the game, but then based on the look and 156 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 3: the covers that he had, didn't necessarily think they were 157 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: going to he was going to get the ball. 158 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: In that play. 159 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: And then when he turned and looked and realized how 160 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: open he was and the ball felt like it was 161 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 3: in the air for an hour. 162 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was like, just catch it, just catch it. 163 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: I think it's connection aside, right, like he's talking about 164 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: like their chemistry, their connection. But I mean the point, 165 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is they had not hit 166 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: many deals. 167 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: That's just a fact, right, And so like. 168 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: To see that play specifically get hit, I think really 169 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: shows the full range of Rashat Bateman's game and can 170 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: really open him up for the rest of what he does. 171 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: Right if you, if you if you have to respect 172 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: him beating you over the top for the fifty yard touchdown, 173 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: then you have to give him even more cushion on 174 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: the comebacks and all that stuff. So and just another 175 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: guy like the how many times would this season We're 176 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: gonna say, pick your poison, but like another vial of 177 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: poison that the Ravens broke out tonight. I mean Mark 178 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: Andrews scored two touchdowns too. Oh by the way, but 179 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: like we hadn't had like Bateman's been heating up, but 180 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: we hadn't had the Rashad Bateman game. Right tonight was 181 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: the Rashaw Bateman game. I mean, Zay Flowers had one 182 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: catch for an eleven for eleven yards for a shot 183 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: baitman game. 184 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: It's funny though it was a shot baitman game. It 185 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: was La Mark Jackson game. It was Derek Hendry game 186 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: who had. 187 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,119 Speaker 2: A touchdown one hundred and seventy yards. 188 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: He only had one hundred and sixty nine rushing yards 189 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: years Henry game. 190 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, plus the receiving touchdown. 191 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just kind of an average workload for him. 192 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: But and Mark, like you mentioned Mark Andrews, I think 193 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: it's officially time to put an end to the question of, like, 194 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: what's up with Mark Andrews? 195 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: Is he okay? 196 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: Is he ever going to get involved in this offense? 197 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: That storyline is officially dead. Rip here on October twenty first, 198 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. 199 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: He's on twenty second now, twenty second. 200 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: Now, he's scored a pair of touchdowns. The all time 201 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: Ravens leader in franchise history for receiving touchdowns pass he 202 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: was tied with Todd Heap. He passed them and then 203 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 3: added to it, and he's just going to keep adding 204 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: to that numbers now exactly. 205 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, four for forty one for Mark Andrews, And you know, 206 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, like maybe we'll have the Mark Andrews 207 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: game where he catches eight balls and goes over one 208 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: hundred yards, or maybe we won't, but like this efficient 209 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews and certainly being the red zone threat to 210 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: get in the end zone a la. He has the 211 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: career franchise record in touch receiving touchdowns, Like whatever, Maybe 212 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: it's not the Mark Andrews of twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, 213 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, right that put up one thousand some yards, 214 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: but like this is a very good Mark Andrews in 215 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: this offense. 216 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Like when I look at this offense, I 217 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 2: think it was. 218 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: Another sign that I just don't know that this offense 219 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: can be stopped. Like big picture, WHI is when I'm 220 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 3: looking at this, like I think the Ravens offense is 221 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: playing at as the best level in the NFL, and 222 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: I do not see a scenario where they're going to 223 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: be shut down for an entire game. I just it's 224 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 3: hard for me to found them. The only way I 225 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: see it happening. I said this in the podcast coming 226 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: into the game, is if you have somebody who just 227 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: completely wreck shop up front and can create havoc that way. 228 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 2: But I just even Vidavea. 229 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: We spent a long time talking about Vivea di vidave 230 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: didn't wreck Ravens shop. You know, I don't know that 231 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens ran for a lot of yards up the middle, 232 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: but they ran for two hundred and forty four on 233 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: the day, So I don't care where they ran. 234 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, left, whatever, right, I'll take that, you know. So 235 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 236 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really hard, and it starts 237 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: and ends with the quarterback. Right when you have the 238 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: best athlete on the field, when you have the best 239 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: player on the field in Lamar Jackson, which he is, 240 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: I don't think right now in the NFL there's another 241 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: quarterback that comes close to Lamar Jackson and the level 242 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: that he's playing at right now. 243 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: Like, Okay, Pat. 244 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: Mahomes has the rings and he's beaten Lamar in the 245 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: playoffs all that stuff. Like until Lamar beats Pat Mahomes, 246 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: he's not going to be considered better than Pat ma Holmes. 247 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: But I'm saying who's playing the best right now in 248 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: the league. I don't think it's close. I think it's 249 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson Pat Mahlmes. Is there are more interceptions than 250 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: touchdowns this year yeah, right, and like so like I'm 251 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: like literally trying to think of somebody around the league 252 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: that's playing a Jared Golf is playing really well right now, 253 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: but like sorry. 254 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: He's playing great, you know. But yes, I'm with you. 255 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: I think nobody's close to Lamar Jackson Lamar, and so 256 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: when he's playing at that level, I completely agree with you. Like, no, 257 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't think the Ravens are going to be held 258 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: down for four quarters. 259 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 3: I also think that the way his mindset, the leadership, 260 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: he came into the season with a renewed sense of urgency, 261 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: wanting to become more of a leader. And you see 262 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: it in little ways, like one of them is when 263 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: he's downfield blocking for Derrick Henry, and Derek Henry says 264 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: after the game, like when you have that guy, that 265 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: player who's who's making that type of selfless play that 266 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: speaks volumes of his mindset and his approach and everybody 267 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 3: follows him. 268 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: Well, I must have peppered him with three questions and 269 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: put Lamar with three questions in the postgame press conference 270 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: about like, you know, how how good do you feel? 271 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: What's your mindset right now? You're on a heater just 272 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: like what's going through your mind right now? And he's 273 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: like winning games. I don't know, like the next game 274 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: that I got to play well, like Lamar harbes, like 275 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: they're all kind of downplaying, like they just it's becoming commonplace. 276 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: Like now, like what else, what do you say? Like 277 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: what is left to say about how great Lamar Jackson is? 278 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: Like John Harball said, like he'll go down in Monday 279 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: Night Football history. He'll be one of the greats Monday 280 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: Night football history. You're like, Okay, that's a that's our 281 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: new thing for tonight. But like there's like nothing much 282 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: more to say, And Lamar is single mindedly just focused 283 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: on winning the next game, getting to the super Bowl, 284 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: winning super Bowl. 285 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, he's playing on real level. 286 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: All Right, let's take break and we'll come back and 287 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: talk about the Ravens defense after this win in Tampa Bay. 288 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 3: You're listening to the last podcast We're coming to you 289 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: from the Sea Geek Studio. We also want to mention 290 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: our partners with Draft Kings Sportsbook. They're an official sports 291 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draft Kings Sportsbook. The 292 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: Crown is Yours. So this defense up and down night 293 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 3: for them. But the game changed when Marlon Hrfrey came 294 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: up with back to back interceptions. That first interception really 295 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: was a fourteen point swinging The Bucks were driving. They 296 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: actually had to play before it looked like they scored 297 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: a touchdown to Mike Evans and then that went incomplete 298 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: and and then he ends up getting hurt, is done 299 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: for the game. Then they come back, throws it in 300 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: Marlin's direction. He comes up with the pick, but they 301 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: are knock going to have the door there. 302 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: Everyone were hanging on at that point. I mean, they 303 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: already had a ten point lead. The Ravens scored a 304 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: touchdown and cut at the three. They marched right back 305 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: down the field to in our in position to extend 306 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: it to ten again. Yeah, and that was a huge play, 307 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: turning point of the game for Marlin, and hey, kudos 308 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: to him. And then obviously came up with the interception, 309 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, collided with his own guy on the very 310 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: next drive when when again the Bucks are just marching 311 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: down the field. And credit to Marlin. I mean, now 312 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: he has a career high four interceptions. He's not a 313 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: guy that's known for his hands by any stretch of 314 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: the imagination, even Lamar Jackson this summer, joked like, yeah, 315 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm throwing him interceptions to like work on his hands 316 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: because he dropped of too many. 317 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: So like credit to Marlin. 318 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: There's only one guy who has more picks than him 319 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: in the league right now, and he leads some hits. 320 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: I thought, I think Marlin's playing at a really high level. 321 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: Knock on Wood, that his knee injury isn't too serious. 322 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: John Harball did not have an update after the game, 323 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: said he saw Marlon walking around and. 324 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: On the field at the end of the game. 325 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 3: I was down there at the end of the game 326 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 3: and he was on the side, was on the sideline, 327 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 3: standing there watching the end of the game, herd, which 328 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: is encouraging. 329 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: That is encouraging hard. I said. 330 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: He was walking around the locker room seem being good spirits, 331 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: so it doesn't seem like anything major. But he didn't 332 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: have a definite update on that. Knock on Wood, it's 333 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: nothing too bad. 334 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, the defense, you know, the takeaway from me on 335 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: the defense, it's it's hard because like they weren't good early, 336 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: but then after that, the Marlin interceptions started a run 337 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: of six straight series where the Bucks did not score. 338 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: And the defense was playing great. 339 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 3: I mean two of those series were turnovers, and then 340 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: the defense was hitting hard. They were physical, they were 341 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: shutting things down, and so they were really in the 342 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: in their element. Then at the end of the game, 343 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: after that again that backwards passed today, then all of 344 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: a sudden. 345 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: The Bucks got a couple of touchdowns. 346 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: And you would like to see him close it out there, 347 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: you would you would like to see him. 348 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure Zach were saying, hey, you guys, we got 349 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: to close it out. 350 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: Kyle Hamilton made that point too, that they should close 351 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 3: it out better. But like the game really felt like 352 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: it was in hand. It was just you were just 353 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: kind of yeah, I don't know, it was kind of 354 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: garbage time. 355 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was garbage. Yeah, that's correct. 356 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, and you know they didn't catch an on 357 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: side kick, Like if that's called it's a different body. 358 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a route. 359 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: This is a route, and but you look at the stats, 360 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: you gave up four hundred and eighty one yards as 361 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: a defense. 362 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: That's just too many. John Harball said, too many big plays. 363 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: And before it was a route, the Bucks just marched 364 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: down the field too easily. On their first two to 365 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: three drives. You know, now you got some turns at 366 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: the end, which are great, but you don't want to 367 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: see a march down the field like that. And so 368 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: this defense is giving up too much easy stuff, too 369 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: much stuff in the flats. I mean, Rashad White had 370 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: how many catches wide open in the flats? 371 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: Yea, including two. 372 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: For touchdowns, And so they have to clean up some 373 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: of that stuff. I don't know if that's just you 374 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: got caught in the wrong coverage, that's a miscommunication, I 375 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: don't know. But you shouldn't have a guy that wide 376 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: open in the flats for easy yardage. And you can't 377 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: be given up too many plays and you can't be 378 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: dropping in or set. Marlin came up with the two, 379 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: but Ardarius again could have had one for the second 380 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: straight game. 381 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: You know that you got to start catching some of this. 382 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the defense is still very much work 383 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 3: in progress. So the things that have cost them at 384 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: times this year showed up again tonight. But I do 385 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: like I'm gonna go glass half full here. I'm gonna 386 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: choose to remember like the middle of the game, like 387 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: the bulk of the game, Like, yes, I would like 388 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: to see them getting out there but I'm just like, 389 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: not gonna I'm not going to kill him for the 390 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: end of the game and not being able to get 391 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: off the field in that situation. 392 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. 393 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: I mean, let's also not forget that this Tampa Bay 394 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: passing attack and offense is pretty darn good. And now 395 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: part of certainly what changed the game speaking of, is 396 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: the injury to Mike Evans. You know, after Mike Evans 397 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: went down, that certainly changed you know, Tampa Bay's big 398 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: playability there. You know, if he had not gone down, 399 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: this might have been a different game. 400 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: Sure, And so yeah, I mean he had one touchdown, 401 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: almost had a second, and they got. 402 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: Hurt exactly, so that that is certainly a factor. But yeah, 403 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: this bucks Baker Mayfield came out and I thought he 404 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: was just dealing. I thought it was it was like 405 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: I was thinking, this is this is hot. Baker's hot tonight, 406 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, but it's gonna be It's gonna be trouble. 407 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: But then it was like classic Baker, gun slinging Baker, 408 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, puts the Dane ball in harm's way and 409 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens made him pay. And so that's the ying 410 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: and the yang Baker Mayfield right, and but yeah, this 411 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: I think this is a good Tampa Bay team. I 412 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: was surprised by how well they ran the ball. Yeah, 413 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: I thought that was one of the just a weird 414 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: different thing for this defense tonight. You know, thirty rushes 415 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: for one hundred and twenty five yards for the Bucks, 416 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: and they were on a few. 417 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 2: Teams that kind of stuck with it. 418 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: You know, it's they weren't like gashing the Ravens, but 419 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: they were getting five, six, seven yards and they were 420 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: sticking with the runs. So you know, they were coming 421 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: off a huge running performance a week ago. 422 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 2: It wasn't a fluke apparently. 423 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: You know, they ran the ball better than I thought 424 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: they were going to against this Ravens team. 425 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. So the Ravens are sitting here at five and two. 426 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: I think that, you know, there's a case to be 427 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 3: made that they're playing the best football in the NFL 428 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 3: right now. Chiefs are still they're undefeated, So the Chiefs 429 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 3: are and they beat the Ravens, So the Chiefs are 430 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: the best team of the league. 431 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: But I think there's a difference between the best record 432 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: in the league and who's playing the best right now. 433 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: And I think that anybody that watched the forty nine 434 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: Ers Chiefs game, which I did Sunday hotel room. You know, 435 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: I think would say, you know, I think the Ravens 436 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: are playing at a higher level. But again to Lamars 437 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: Jackson's point, it's week by week and hey, I'm trying 438 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: to get somewhere. That somewhere eventually I think will lead 439 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: to facing the Kansas City Chiefs again. 440 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to beat them then. 441 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: So the whatever, you know, that's that's for down the road. 442 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 1: You got to get to that point. And I think 443 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens are playing pretty darn good football right now 444 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: to get to that point. 445 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: Yep. 446 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: So we'll wrap it up here. We got to catch 447 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 3: his flat home and let's not miss the playing. Yeah, 448 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: we don't want to miss a playing here. But as always, 449 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: we left here from you guys who send us those 450 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: emails every single week. 451 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: Enjoy this way. It's a big one. This is a 452 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: big one. Size, it's kind of sizable Tuesday morning. Size 453 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: them up. Thanks for listening. We'll be back with you 454 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: again this week. MHM.