1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Where does the presidential election stand today? The New York 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: Times recently out with some battleground surveys, which sure looks 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: like good news for Donald Trump. They have him up 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: pretty substantially in some of these Sun Belt states like Arizona, Georgia, 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: and Nevada, a little bit of a tighter race in 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: the Rost belt states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. But 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: what is super interesting is it has Donald Trump up 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: over twenty percent with the black vote, that would be 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: the most for any Republican since nineteen sixty four. They 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: also have him tied with eighteen to twenty nine year 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: olds in Hispanics. These are groups that Biden got more 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: than sixty percent of the vote in twenty twenty. So 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: are those numbers real? Is that possible? We're gonna ask 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: John McLaughlin with McLoughlin and Associates. He has been advising 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and his campaign since at least twenty fifteen. 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: He's a long time polster. 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: He has worked professionally as a strategic consultant and polster 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: for over thirty five years. He's also done some international 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: work for people like Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Nett and 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: Yahoo so he knows what he's talking about. He's looking 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: at this stuff every single day, so we're going to 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: get his take. Where does the election stand today? How 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: have these indictments shaped the election? And are some of 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: these numbers we're seeing, you know, from this New York 25 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: Times battleground survey, are they real? All of that and 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: more with John McLoughlin. 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: Stay tuned. Well, John, I appreciate you making the time 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: for the show. 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: I've reached out before to you to kind of get 30 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: your pulse on where things stand in the country. So 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to bringing that conversation to my audience. 32 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: So I appreciate you making the time. 33 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: That's a pleasure. Thank you for the opportunity. 34 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 35 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: I guess we'll start off kind of you know, big picture, 36 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: you know from your estimation, you know you're looking at 37 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: polls probably all day long. 38 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: Where where does the election stand today? 39 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: Well, since I worked for President Trump, then advised him 40 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: since twelve. First time was twenty eleven when he was 41 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 3: taking a running, then then twenty fifteen when he began running, 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: and through the twenty sixteen campaign, in the twenty twenty campaign, 43 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: and now through this all through last year's priory. Now 44 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: we've never seen the kind of poll numbers that Donald 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 3: Trump's getting right now. So in twenty sixteen, in twenty twenty, 46 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: it was always an electoral vote play that I'm sure 47 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 3: we would lose the national popular vote, but it will 48 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: be closed. But we could win in the battleground states 49 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: and get an electoral majority. And that's what we did 50 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen by seventy eight thousand votes. We won 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania forty four thousand votes. We won Wisconsin twenty two 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: thousand votes, in Michigan ten thousand votes. So we were 53 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 3: able to get an electoral majority. And then and it 54 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: was a historic winning that you know, here was this 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: outsider beat the Republican establishment and then beat the Washington 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: you see, established brand and that was a new historic point. 57 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: But the establisher never forgave us. And in twenty twenty 58 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: we lost five forty four thousand voats, literally eleven thousand 59 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: in Georgia, Arizona, and twenty thousand in was Townsend at 60 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 3: our record one hundred and sixty million voats. So that 61 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: was tough. But now, but we were never head in 62 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: the popular vote. Lost the popular vote by four points 63 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: according to the you know, according to the botalities. But 64 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: now ever since Fiden surrendered Afghanistic in August September twenty one, 65 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: Trumston leading of the national popular vote. And those aren't 66 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: my polls necessarily. In my poll last month I had 67 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: Trump about forty nine to five and beating you know, 68 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: I had to have Rady switch that would be an 69 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: electoral landslight for US. We weren't decisively, and but the 70 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: media polls a lot, these media polls had skewed. I mean, 71 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a a there's a Yahoo pull out 72 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: today of one thousand, seven hundred and ninety four adults 73 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: that has US tied at forty three forty three. But 74 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: they've got like thirteen questions in there about uh, the 75 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: story Daniel's trial, and are extremely biased where we don't 76 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: have a shot. But it's like the way they wrote 77 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: the questions they was take Trump Yahoo News and then uh. 78 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: And then they have only twenty nine percent voters who 79 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: voted in twenty twenty vote for Trump. And you know, 80 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 3: usually my polls I have with like over forty on 81 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: because we do like we pull likely voters, we don't 82 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: pull adults, we don't bult register all poll people that 83 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: tell us they're actually going to vote. That's how try 84 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: to be accurate. And we call off a voter database 85 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: on you know, we know who we're calling, we know 86 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: who we were in biding to take out national online service, 87 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, I mean we we you know 88 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: in the poll that we have that that I just 89 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 3: quoted you where Trump's had forty nine to forty five, 90 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 3: there was that that's a plus four demo twenty twenty 91 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: vote for Biden. So there's actually four or five percent 92 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 3: that have flipped from voting for Biden that are voting 93 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: for Trump now, and there's another four or five percent 94 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: that's undecided. So we're in really good shape. And it's 95 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 3: said because it's the country's in bad shape. I mean, 96 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: sixty six percent of all voters say countries on the 97 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: wrong track. They say the economy is getting worse out 98 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: better sixty one to thirty four. You've got negatively impacted 99 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: by inflation is eighty six percent of le voters. Forty 100 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: eight percent say to the point that there can't afford 101 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 3: basic necessities. And so we're seeing we're seeing that that 102 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: rejection of Joe Biden, where he has a fifty six 103 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: percent disapproval on air rating. Again, this poll was modeled 104 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 3: after form turning. 105 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: You know, John, you'd mentioned the botch withdrawal from Afghanistan, 106 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: and you know, we saw I think he was pulling 107 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: at I want to say, a forty nine percent at 108 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: the beginning of that, the beginning of August twenty twenty one, 109 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: and then we've sort of seen it. His approval numbers, 110 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's just continue to draw. What was it about 111 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: the withdrawal that had Americans say, you know what, Nope, 112 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: can't support this guy. 113 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: We don't call it a withdrawal. We call it a surrender. 114 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 3: And that's President Trump's phrase that he called it a surrender. 115 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: And because that's what he did, I mean he basically 116 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: that wasn't a withdrawal. That was that was like a paling. 117 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 3: And they literally surrendered the whole country with hundreds, if 118 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: not thousands of Americans and certainly tens of thousands of 119 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: uses of friends that shouldn't have been lecked behind. And 120 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: he did. He for whatever reasons, he surrendered, and he 121 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: costs thirteen verve worings their lives. And the one thing 122 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: an American president is not supposed to do is surrender 123 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: and he did it, and it was a sign of weakness. 124 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: And when you look at the character contrast between the 125 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: you know, Donald Trump, who the first thing they say 126 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: about him is he straw. And now the first thing 127 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: they say about Joe Biden is he's weak. And so 128 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: for an American president to be that weak and surrender 129 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: a country like that, we've been on the run ever since. 130 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: I mean, Iran has been you know, selling their oil 131 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: and he doesn't force the oil embargo, and it funded 132 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: Hamas and it funds has Bola and Hooti's and Iraan 133 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: proxy terrorists to a point where you know, it was 134 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: a green light to invade for Russia to invade Ukraine, 135 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: and it was and it was without a doubt, it 136 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: was a green light for Iran to use their proxy 137 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: to attack Israel. And then you have Iran attacking Israel 138 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: directly with missiles and and you know that's a country 139 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: that's developing a nuclear weapon. So a lot of people 140 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: are worried about, you know, it's about what's going on 141 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: with Joe Biden, because this is something an American president 142 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: should not, should not you know, let happen, And it 143 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: wouldn't have happened under Donald Trump. In fact, after Putin 144 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: invaded Iran. It was February twenty two. I had to 145 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: I was in Hungary doing work for the Prime Minister's reelection, 146 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: and I came back and had a meeting with President 147 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: Trump and Suzy Wiles and Brian Jack and we were 148 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: going through some poll numbers. So President Trump said this 149 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: would have never happened if I was president, meaning the 150 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: Russian invasion in Ukraine. I said, oh, why was that? 151 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: And he said he said, well, when I was president, 152 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 3: I got intelligence and he had you know, Putin had 153 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: invaded Ukraine and taken Crimea while Obama was president, and 154 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: we got intelligence. They were masking and they were going 155 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: to go out to Ukraine again. So I called him 156 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 3: up and I said, if you go out to Ukraine, 157 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: I'm got a Bob Muscat. They said, I never had 158 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: a problem with you. Four years. Trump's told that story 159 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: rus so I can repeat it. But but that was 160 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: a sign of strength. And you know, when you think 161 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: about Iran. Iran, they sent Solomoni to go take our 162 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: big at embassy, you know, the way they took our 163 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: tay Rain embassy back from Jimmy Carter was president and 164 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: Solomoni was getting you know, she had malicious together and 165 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: we're going to take our our embassy. And President Trump 166 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: sent in like three thousand troops and he had Solamani killed, 167 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: and it's like, you want to you want to challenge America, 168 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: there's a price to pay right now. What happens is, 169 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: you know, whether it's Twutin or whether it's a ram 170 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: or whether it's a Maas, you know you can you 171 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 3: can take Americans hostage, and Biden gives you billions of 172 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: dollars eight that's what hamas. 173 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember, I think it was. We were listening. 174 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: I was co hosting over the weekend, and during Trump's 175 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: speech in New Jersey, he was talking about how his 176 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: approach to Israel might not be popular, but you know, 177 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: you've got to do the sometimes you have to do 178 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: the unpopular things when you're a leader. And I think 179 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: that kind of sums up the difference between, you know, 180 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: the two where you know, Trump's willing to take a 181 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: stand and do what he believes is right and and 182 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: Biden is too weak to do that. You know, Democrats 183 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: were hoping to take Trump out via law fair with 184 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: all these indictments in the four cases, that Donald Trump 185 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: is facing. How have these indictments, from what you're saying, 186 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: how have they shaped this election? 187 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 3: Well, it's been the central foundation of the Biden reelection strategy. 188 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 3: And by the way, at one point, President Trump saying, 189 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: do the popular things. By the way, what President Trump did, 190 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: having America strong and having if you didn't respect us, 191 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: at least you feared us. That's a popular position in 192 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: this world. So but but going to the Biden indictments, 193 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 3: I mean, Biden being behind in the national popular vote 194 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: and losing the President Trump and now we're seeing all 195 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: these battlegrounds says that he's losing. Last year was pretty 196 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: clear their their campaign strategy was about indictments, and this 197 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: year is about convictions. But last year, when you look 198 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: at it, the evidence was okay. There. He was burrating 199 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: Merrick Garland in twenty twenty two in April twenty two 200 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: in the New York Times, saying he should be a 201 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: potterist judge. She needs to get on him. Indict Trump. 202 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: Next thing, you know, to Arland's hire Jack Smith, the DOJ. 203 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: This fellow mclangelo, who was the third person in the 204 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: Biden Department of Justice. All of a sudden, the guy 205 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: takes a demotion after Cyrus Vance says is not enough 206 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: to indict Trump or Bragg. Alvin Bragg says is not 207 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: enough to indict Donald Trump. And so this guy Mcalangelo 208 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: and the Biden working in the Biden Justice Bar, working 209 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: for working for Merrick Garland, he leaves to become an 210 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: assistant District attorney in Manhattan precisely to bring not to 211 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: fight crime or promoters in jail or quit after illegal immagrom. No, 212 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 3: he's there to Donald Trump and prosecute the case. They 213 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: don't ready let Alvin Brad prosecute the case. This guy 214 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: Colangel is prosecuting the case and so so. And then 215 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: you got Fanny Willis, Fanny Wilson, her boyfriend. What are 216 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 3: they doing going to the White House for meetings with 217 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: the for eight hour meetings? Though Wade the prosecutor went 218 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: to White House for two eight hour meetings, and Fanny 219 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 3: Willis is going to see Kamala Harris. I mean these indictments, 220 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: the four major indictments, who are all orchestrated by the 221 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: Biden administration. And guess what the voters see it On 222 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: our website, I'm a blocklan online dot com. We posted 223 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: the results of our national multipole. And last month, sixty 224 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: six percent of Wall voters said politics play to roll 225 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: in these indictments. Fifty six percent said Joe Biden played 226 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: a roll in these indictments. Fifty four to thirty six. 227 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: They say there's a double standard that the Bidens go 228 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 3: free while they prosecuted Trump. Fifty six to thirty five. 229 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: All voters say, let the voters decide the election, not 230 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: the courts. And fifty three percent to thirty four percent 231 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: they say these indictments are just meant to put Donald 232 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: Trump in jail, to stop him from being president. So 233 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 3: the majority of Americans see this, and you know last 234 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: year told President Trump, the only prime you've committed is 235 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: your head in the pulse. And you know this is 236 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 3: a political strategy by Buiden. He's so corrupt, you know, 237 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 3: they make him out of this kind of old guy. 238 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: He's not. He may be old technically, but he's he's 239 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: really corrupt and he's failed. He's a desper president and 240 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 3: he's afraid of losing to Donald Trump because his family 241 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 3: is really corrupt. And you know, he's doing everything he 242 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: can put Donald Trump in jail. 243 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the biggest way that Joe Biden told 244 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: us is that Cornpop was the bad dude. 245 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: He's the bad dude, John. 246 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: We've got more on the presidential election, but first, Since 247 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: October seventh, the attacks on Israel have increased, with the 248 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: Ron and its proxies launching an attack of hundreds of 249 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: drones and missiles. Israelis are living with the harsh reality 250 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,599 Speaker 1: of terror every day. 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They've got Trump up pretty substantially 269 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: in the sun Belt states Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, but within 270 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: the margin of error in the rost belt states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, 271 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: and Wisconsin. Why is he doing better in the sun 272 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: Belt states and not better in the roust belt states? 273 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: And what does he need to do to address that? 274 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: By the way, going back to the twenty sixteen campaign, 275 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: that was our strategy. It was a horror land campaign 276 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: to bring out working class to orders from the sun 277 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: Belt in the rust belt states, and that's how we 278 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: put Pennsylvania in play. We put Wisconsin and Michigan in flight. 279 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: And it was mainly to get working class holders out 280 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: who don't didn't vote in twenty twelve. They didn't like 281 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: a ball on. They at some point they felt that 282 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: Nick Rowney it was to fire them and was from 283 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 3: country blook so Trump in twenty sixteen, we won those states. 284 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: We call it precisely because the new voters came into 285 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: the to the electorate, people that were like one paycheck 286 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: away from disaster. And I've done some service before that 287 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: where most of these working class, casual voters who vote 288 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight twenty ten but then vote 289 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: twelve were you know, they're making less than sixty thousand 290 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: dollars a year in their household. And they were mainly women, 291 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: and they were there was some more diversity than but 292 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: that's who we were get this time. It ran the 293 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: four or five percent that has switched from Biden twenty 294 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 3: twenty to twenty twenty four, or the quarter of black 295 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: quarter Hispanic average ages thirty five and they're really upset 296 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: about inflation from all the issues and we're getting back 297 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: and that Your question about the rust belt states is there. 298 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: They were a little harder to win because they're more competitive. 299 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: But nobody had won the states and years for the 300 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: Republicans until Donald Trump did, until he was appealing to 301 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 3: them on the issues of trade, taxes, fighting China, et cetera, 302 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: redoing the unfair trade deals, and it was a working 303 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 3: class appeal. And when you look at the New York 304 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 3: Times polls, that happens ahead of five out of six 305 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: the battleground states. By the way, Wisconsin where they had us. 306 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 3: This the one state where they I think they had 307 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: us behind in the New York Times, that one they 308 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: even though Wisconsin was a forty nine twenty state. And 309 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: when you look at Biden versus Trump, their internals on 310 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: the on the poll has only forty two percent Trump 311 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 3: voters and forty seven percent Biden voters. So there may 312 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: be a little skew, and we think we're more in 313 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 3: play in that state. So in fact, I tell you 314 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: Wisconsin is at that even state. It's it's like and 315 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 3: there's other polls out there was a bit Quinnipiac Paul 316 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: had us losing by points there. And when you go 317 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: into the internals, they have only twenty five percent Republicans, 318 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: and you go back to the twenty twenty exit poles, 319 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 3: we were thirty seven percent. So we're starting to see 320 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: polls that are underpolling Republicans again. Like remember in twenty sixteen, 321 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 3: it was a Hillary lock. There was no way that 322 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: Trump was going to win. It was a lock for Hillary. Well, 323 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 3: they kept underpolling Republicans tell Joe Biden, not Joe Biden, 324 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton. Back then it was a Hillary lock, and 325 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: we said, no, it's close and we could win, and 326 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: we're going to win. And you know, Trump proved us 327 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: right by seventy eight thousand votes out of one hundred 328 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: and thirty nine million votes. Then in twenty twenty, they 329 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: were saying it was going to be a Biden blue 330 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: wave and we're like, no, it's going to be close again, 331 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: and we will. You know, we can pull this out. 332 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 3: But unfortunately, with drop boxes and sucker box you know, 333 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 3: they basically ballot harvested during COVID and we lost three 334 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: states by forty four thousand, but it was all in 335 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: those rust Belt and certain Sun Belts states. The Sun 336 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: Belt states have now gone against them because there's a 337 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 3: the economy's bed flationis high, plus the borders out of control. 338 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: The borders like the top issue that we're seeing that 339 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 3: pops in the polls, and if you live in Arizona, Nevada, 340 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: even New Mexico could come and play. By the way, 341 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 3: we've got the Trump campaign released surveys in Minnesota that 342 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 3: we were tied forty to forty with the Kennedy and 343 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: nine percent. In Virginia, we're only behind by three forty 344 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 3: to thirty seven percent with Kennedy at eight. And there 345 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: was a poll yesterday by my colleague Tony Fabrizio, who 346 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 3: also polls for Donald Trump, did the Superpack and now 347 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: he's in the campaign again and they had us down 348 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: with Virginia by one point. So so that we're burning 349 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: the mat on these electoral states and you know, we've got. 350 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 3: The tough part is we still got we still got 351 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: a good amount of time between now and November fifth, 352 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: but early voting starts in mid September and a lot 353 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: of states and then in October most states are voting. 354 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: And you know, when you when you look at it, 355 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 3: we've got you know, as of today, it's like a 356 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: hrndred and seventy four days for election day. So but 357 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: this is a this is a position we've never. 358 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: Been in for to be no, it's you know, in 359 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: these polls also have I guess what I'm trying to 360 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: figure out too, is I mean, some of these swings 361 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: they have with some of these voter groups are substantial, 362 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: and so I'm trying to figure out are is that real? 363 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: You know, is this just a Carter era type election 364 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: where things are so bad because these polls have Trump 365 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: with over twenty percent of the black vote, which would 366 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: be the highest for any Republican since nineteen sixty four. 367 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: So I mean, that's historic, right, And then they have 368 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: him basically tied with eighteen to twenty nine year olds 369 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: and with hispan X groups that Biden got more than 370 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: sixty percent of the vote in twenty twenty. 371 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 2: So I mean, is that what you're saying. 372 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: Are those numbers real or are these just people protesting 373 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: now and then they're going to come home for Democrats 374 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: when it gets closer or sort of what are your 375 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: assessment of those groups and where they stand today in 376 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: this election? 377 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: We're seeing it in that like with African Americans out 378 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 3: the National Pollar referred to that we put up in April, 379 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 3: we got twenty six percent of the Black boat. We're 380 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 3: winning as bas eight. But again, these are likely voters 381 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: and the media polls that you're seeing because we got 382 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: eight percent of the black voat in twenty sixteen, we 383 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 3: got twelve percent of the Black voat in twenty twelve. 384 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 3: What you're seeing is that when it goes up to 385 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: over twenty percent of a lot of these media polls 386 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: for the black vote. It matches Joe Biden's disapproval and 387 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: a lot of it. We're getting strong work for African 388 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: American men who are middle class, but also women who 389 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: care about their schools, and they also fit with the 390 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: safety momps. We're getting, you know, women that are concerned 391 00:21:54,560 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 3: about illegal immigration and crime and Federol and gangs over 392 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 3: to Trump. And it's closed the gender gap that we 393 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: lost with and significant close. So my last national poll 394 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 3: are doubt for women and significantly more ahead among among men. 395 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: But the h but to your point, it's the African 396 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: American it's real now, but it's based on the dissatisfaction 397 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: of buying correlates through this job disapproval and and it 398 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: ties out with the with the you know, the the 399 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 3: Biden failure on inflation, the Biden failure on crime, the 400 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: Biden failure on border drugs, and and then Hispanic voters. 401 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: If you came here legally or if you're a Porto 402 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 3: riader Porto regions are American citizens, and unfortunately the treats 403 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: like second class citizens by a lot of people. But 404 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 3: they have to deal with the abuse and what's going 405 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: on in the communities where you now have all these 406 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 3: You know, you have what fourteen to fifteen million legal 407 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: immigrants in the country right now, and they're not just Hispanics. 408 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: But if you came here legally, if your first generation 409 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,239 Speaker 3: or second generation, when your parents came here illgally, and 410 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 3: you had to wait ten ten years of more to 411 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 3: do it right, and you wanted to be an American citizen, 412 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: and you're not here channing death to Israel, death to America. 413 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: You're here because you wanted to be an American and 414 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 3: because you did it right. And now people are just 415 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: walking across the border that are not our friends, and 416 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 3: they are you know, and some of them are seriously 417 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: tied with gangs, illegal immegration. Crime is out of control, 418 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: and they're upset. They're really upset by this, and they're 419 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 3: taking it out on the bike. Whether it's a realignment, 420 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 3: like I'm an older polster where I used to work 421 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: for Finkelstein where he was one of Reagan polsters, and 422 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: we saw a realignment go from eighty to the eighty 423 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: four election, where eighty four you had a realignment, but 424 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: in eighty you had a rejection to Jimmy Carter and 425 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 3: it was, you know, Reagan. In the polls back then, 426 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 3: Reagan for everyone fairly had one negative. It's kind of 427 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: like Trump. He was polarized. He was too right way, 428 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: and he was too old. He was going to blow 429 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: up the world. And then he had a debate with 430 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 3: Jimmy Carter and he said, there you go again, mister president. 431 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: Are you better off four years from now from what 432 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: then you were four years ago? And he wanted a Lanslap. 433 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: But that wasn't a realignment. That was a rejection of 434 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: Jimmy Carter. He turned it into a realign. I think 435 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: you're seeing the same thing now with Trump, where you 436 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 3: possibly could have a realignment based on working class voters 437 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: and expanding into college educative voters who are concerned about 438 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 3: the standard of living in the United States, concerned about 439 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: the security of the United States, and they want to 440 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 3: go back to be some prosperity. And they made out 441 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 3: like Trump's tweets. They may not like his rally speeches, 442 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: so you know what, they're like policies, and they want 443 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 3: to go back to a time where the real wages 444 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: are going up prices. You know, they can handle it 445 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: at the food store at datasen they don't have to 446 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: worry about the you know, if they've got kids or 447 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 3: family in the military, they don't have to wear them 448 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 3: going out to someplace where they're going to get shot at, 449 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: you know, and they won't have it. Comander achievement doesn't 450 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 3: back them up. 451 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: So you know, Democrat Democrats are going to try to. 452 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: Make the selection about you know, we've heard it from 453 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, your threats to democracy, you know, abortion, to 454 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: try to wed over women. Will those distraction tactics work? 455 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: Will will that be effective? 456 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's it's what's interesting about the abortion 457 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: argument is they're they're they're attacking us for and it's 458 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 3: trying to say it's a total ban. No, it's up 459 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 3: to each state. And that's what Donald Trump was consistent. 460 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: He said he's pro life for Reagan, with the exceptions 461 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: he was he did appoint federal judges who, you know, 462 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 3: you can see what the liberal courts that don't now 463 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: transgender issues and stuffed where if you have some sane juris, 464 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 3: parents are still in control of their children and uh, 465 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: not the state, not the government. But with abortion, it's 466 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 3: up to the states to decide, and most states haven't 467 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: changed the laws. I mean, some states have gotten more 468 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 3: you know where they've got more pro life, uh, but uh, 469 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 3: you know that's according to that state, and and the 470 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 3: voters of that state are comfortable with other states they've 471 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: had referendums where you know, they've been more more uh 472 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 3: uh more liberal than the legislature. But that's that's where 473 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 3: most people are right now. They would like their states 474 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 3: to decide and not not have a federal national policy. 475 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 3: And Joe Biden is the extremist in this when he 476 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 3: I mean, they they literally want to have abortion up 477 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 3: to the ninth month. I mean, you know this, you 478 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 3: wonder about them where they you know, when a could 479 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: be born and then they don't give it basic care. Uh. 480 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: You know, it's just it's just you know, I mean, 481 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: it's just appalling that they that they that's what they're campaigning. 482 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 3: I mean when when when Joe Biden talks about freedom, 483 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: but you know, it's not really free. If a baby's 484 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: boy and all of a sudden, you want to you want. 485 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 2: To kill that bid quick break. 486 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: More on the presidential election on the other side, is 487 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: it fair to say that Kennedy. I mean, it sounds 488 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: like from the conversation we've had so far, Kennedy's pooling 489 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: more from Biden than he is from Trump. 490 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 3: Yes, and because after the poll that I had where 491 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: Trump was up four, we had in the same poll 492 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 3: we had Trump at thirty eight, uh, Biden at thirty six, 493 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 3: and then Kennedy would impress for the leaners, and then 494 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 3: we had Kennedy at tent and it looked like Biden 495 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 3: picked up a couple of points from Kennedy, probably on 496 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 3: the abortion issue. But again that was April. After that 497 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 3: we had a poll out from CNN about normal lamb, 498 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 3: normal lamb, you know, getting phone calls for President Trump 499 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 3: was wrong with the c and M Paul. This one 500 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: had Trump up six and if Kennedy was in it, 501 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 3: we were up nine. And uh, there was one out 502 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: for Harvard Harris by Mark Penn who was Hillary Clinton's bolster. 503 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 3: At Trump up four over Biden in the two way race, 504 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 3: but with Kennedy in it, we went up seven. So 505 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 3: so these flight polling. And by the way, Joe Biden 506 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: today he said he wants to debate Trump make my 507 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: day even though he doesn't want Trump that way. 508 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: I saw. I wonder how many cuts it took to 509 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: get that right right. 510 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 3: The other well, it's all they're going to have when 511 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 3: you get into the details. They want to be able 512 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: to cut our mic. So often they don't want to 513 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 3: have an audience, so they don't want any witnesses. But 514 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: but what's relevant about that is they don't want Kennedy 515 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 3: that tells you everything you need to know. And you know, 516 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 3: I mean you see the polls in New York State 517 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 3: and New Jersey recently where in April you had an 518 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: Emerson Pole where Trump in New Jersey before his wild 519 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: Wood you know, uh, his wild would rally of one 520 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: hundred thousand people driving down to the Garden State. It 521 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: was bigger than a bon jovi or who Springsteam concert 522 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: had one hundred thousand people a wild Wood, New Jersey 523 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: to go see Donald Trump speak for an hour and 524 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: a half. And and before that, the Emerson pole had 525 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 3: us trailing by five points forty four thirty nine and 526 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: he getting rusted eight points. And then in New York 527 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 3: in April, you had a Siena Pole, that Santa College 528 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: Pole that at Trump trailing even though we lost the 529 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 3: state sixty one thirty eight, we were we were trailing 530 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: forty seven thirty seven so we're within tent and they 531 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: didn't ask Kennedy in a three way ballot. So something's 532 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 3: going on in New York, New Jersey where people probably 533 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 3: get most of the news covered about the about the trial, 534 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: the phony trial, and the Biden trials. And also, you know, 535 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 3: crime is out of control of New York. It's just 536 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: it's I mean, Alvin Bragg is unbelievable. They let people 537 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 3: go that is slashing and end up killing cops, and 538 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 3: they let cop killers go, and they're busy wasting all 539 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 3: their time and money him and with his James Chasing 540 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: ran Donald Trump. But New York, you know, a mess. 541 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 3: It's just unbelievable. 542 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: Before we go, what does Donald Trump's path to two 543 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: seventy look like? Where does that run through? 544 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: Well, runs through the states. You mentioned that there's seven 545 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 3: swing states that that everybody he agrees upon that we've 546 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: got to win North Carolina again and then we have 547 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: to have the five. You correctly pointed out that there's Arizona, 548 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: there's Georgia. By the way, Georgia since they straightened, since 549 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 3: they got rid of the ballot harvesting with the drop boxes, 550 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 3: and they're now require the late speaker Ralston was one 551 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: of my clients in twenty one. We required a voter 552 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: ID for absentees in for in person voting, and uh 553 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: so they've secured that. We're heading the polls in Georgia, 554 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 3: we're hitting the polls in Arizona, and a state that 555 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 3: wasn't in play, Nevada, we're now headed and uh so 556 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: that's really good. And then the three then the three 557 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 3: rest belt states that everybody's focused on that Biden's boring 558 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: tens of millions of dollars, and to try to win Pennsylvania, Michigan, 559 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 3: and Wisconsin. If Biden doesn't win, I have sort of 560 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 3: analysis that if Biden doesn't win one of those three Pennsylvania, 561 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 3: Michigan and Wisconsin, he can't win. So yeah, I needs 562 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: to win all three. If he loses one of them, 563 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 3: he's dull. So you know, we might be expanding the map. 564 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 3: It looks like to Minnesota, Virginia, maybe New Jersey, maybe 565 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 3: New York. We have the rally in the Bronx and 566 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 3: uh you know it's uh, it's right now. It's it's 567 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 3: good for us because Biden's failing and you know years ago. No, 568 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 3: it's actually February twenty twenty one after he left office, 569 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 3: and President Trump and I went through some pollingd numbers. 570 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 3: They said, yeah, two Thursday of publicans want you to 571 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 3: run again. And this was during impeachment and he and 572 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: he says, he said to me, you know, really, why 573 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 3: would they want that? I said, they know Biden's going 574 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: to fail. When Biden fails, would be like Jimmy Carter, 575 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: and there'll be buyers from more so than they want 576 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: you to be back back in the president. They work 577 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: with policies, do you know Biden policies, And you know 578 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 3: that's what's happened, except Biden has failed far worse than 579 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 3: Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carr at least was honest too, he 580 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 3: wasn't corrupt. But the uh, you're seeing a buyer's remorse 581 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 3: where people like, we shouldn't a voter for this Joe Biden. 582 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 3: We're going to vote. We're going to vote for Donald. 583 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: Troll and let's pray that they do. John McLoughlin, I 584 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: really appreciate you making the time. This has been super interesting, 585 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: So thank you well. 586 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: Lisa, thank you for your analysis, and thank thank you 587 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: for the opportunity, and I will keep listening and watching well. 588 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: We'd love to have you back as we continue to 589 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: get closer to the elections. So appreciate what you do 590 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: and appreciate you making the time. 591 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: Thank you. 592 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: That was John McLoughlin, long time polster. Really appreciate him 593 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: making the time. We're going to try to bring you 594 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: more of these types of interviews just so that you 595 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: know we're paying attention and we're getting the inside scoop 596 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: heading into the election. Appreciate you guys at home for 597 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: listening every Monday and Thursday, but you've can listen throughout 598 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: the week. Don't think John Cassio and my producer for 599 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: putting the show together. 600 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: Until next time.