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Speaker 3: New year. See listen, It's time for drink champions. Drink up, motherfuck?

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Speaker 3: f N? Listen to get library. I want to make

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Speaker 2: That when me and anfl started this show, we said

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Speaker 2: we wanted to give the flowers to the legends, the

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Speaker 2: people who have been there for us, the people who

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Speaker 2: are pioneers and people who are legend, the people who

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Speaker 2: are icons. These people have paid the way for me personally,

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Speaker 2: you know, from them putting on someone and putting on

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Speaker 2: my home burrow.

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Speaker 3: These an icon.

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Speaker 2: When I see these brothers on stage here came down

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Speaker 2: my eye because I realized how personally I wanted to

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Speaker 2: see it. It's got nothing to do with hip hop,

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Speaker 2: got everything to do with me. Like I personally as

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Speaker 2: a fan, it was like, yeah, motherfucker, you know, seeing

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Speaker 2: I made the phone call and I said, I want

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Speaker 2: give y all y'all flowers.

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Speaker 3: That's the most important part.

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Speaker 2: The most important part is not having y'all here, but

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Speaker 2: praise y'all. It's time to show y'all how much hip

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Speaker 2: hop owes y'all. It's time to show show y'all how

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Speaker 2: much hip hop appreciate y'all and missus y'all. And in

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Speaker 2: case you don't know what we're doing, we're talking about

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Speaker 2: the one the motherfucker only.

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Speaker 3: Wanted real cold someone let shirts pop because he likes

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Speaker 3: to do that. Yeah, that's that's that's that's what she said.

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Speaker 1: By that, I'm gonna go with this one.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with this, like yes, yes, so Pete,

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Speaker 3: what's going on? My brother?

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Speaker 2: You haven't been you got this is how you know

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Speaker 3: So which one is this? This is a Monty Crisco.

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Speaker 5: I can tell that a Leor Cohen Cuban pies of Dominicans.

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Speaker 2: Right, we smoke Dominicans and Nicaraguans, but the Cuban soil

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Speaker 5: I used to only smoke Cubans.

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Speaker 3: And which one is this one? That's a Monte Cristco?

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Speaker 3: This crystal ball is so okay? So what's the difference

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Speaker 2: This Monty Crisco and it has a New York label

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Speaker 3: So how long you brothers happen? They got to Brooklyn

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Speaker 2: Because I couldn't tell when you said you guys said

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Speaker 3: Is that? Is that a big difference? Really that long?

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Speaker 1: So I think Cassidy got a little excited. Okay I didn't.

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Speaker 1: So we have performed officially on stage together in probably

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Speaker 5: I saw nt do that and gold fingers Joffrey.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, so it really had become like

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Speaker 5: He's I mean maybe regardless, you.

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Speaker 5: He's actually in this show at the Museum of City

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Speaker 5: somehow enabled the fact that he got me and Surge

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Speaker 5: ninety nine, Okay, wow, And he got us to come

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Speaker 5: back and we did Woodstock.

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Speaker 1: So what happened was so we at that time our

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Speaker 1: That's how actually me and Pete med Cassidy when he

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Speaker 1: So so he was like, Yo, do you guys want

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Speaker 1: But the thing that was really funny is they paid

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Speaker 5: What was fucking Delly George Clayton on the other side.

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Speaker 1: But later, right later, but we were like literally like

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Speaker 2: Album stretching what we do, and then basketball always always

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Speaker 3: Just never happened. You know, life happens, you know what

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Speaker 2: But I remember at that time, I just didn't see

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Speaker 2: And I say, it's just me and Capone being together.

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Speaker 5: oh they want to do this. They made up their mind.

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Speaker 5: But listen, me and Rich had some of the same

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Speaker 3: Which nice Rich. Ok Okay, that's right, that's right, that's right,

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Speaker 5: So but uh yeah, so, I mean it's just maturing

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Speaker 5: I had a a whole history even before before that.

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Speaker 5: So that's the crazy thing about us going back to

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Speaker 1: PEX for me was Cassidy show was on November eighth.

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Speaker 1: That was the thirty fifth anniversary of our album release party.

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Speaker 1: Pete Dana Dane I went to high school with. He

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Speaker 3: Stretch above Vito.

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Speaker 5: We had the first show on WKCR, and then Clark

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Speaker 5: introduced me to Richie Rich, who you know, arguably the

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Speaker 1: You remember this comedian, this Mexican comedian, like what was

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Speaker 1: his name, Rodriguez, Like he was Paul Rodriguez. Yea, Paul

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Speaker 3: This motherfucker built this.

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Speaker 3: So Clock was the connector between all of us.

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Speaker 3: I hate to do it good, but I'm just saying,

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Speaker 3: So it's just made sense, you know what.

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Speaker 5: I remember Chuck Dan, we were on roadich all got

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Speaker 3: That's what. So we were on tour with Chuck. We

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Speaker 1: It was like Public Enemy Digital Underground, Big Daddy Kane, like,

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Speaker 3: And I used to love to like go up and

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Speaker 1: Know, order time, set time, and I remember that I'm

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Speaker 3: So now I'm hot. I'm you know, I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 3: And I'm mad?

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Speaker 1: So I run into like brother Mike and brother James

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Speaker 6: Chuck comes out and as he says, he just said,

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Speaker 1: That's all he said to me. And I said, what

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Speaker 1: Public Enemy comes on. The fucking place is moving, whole

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: The second they get off the stage, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: For them for two live crew.

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Speaker 1: Them boys come out, they get on stage and Luke

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Speaker 1: just says one thing, Hey, these motherfuckersre gonna throw us

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Speaker 3: You do us for it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, twenty two thousand people, they didn't Tao one fucking.

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Speaker 3: One fucking word. Taught a bitch down, said, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm on one of the other shows.

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Speaker 1: One of the other shows they did, but that was

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Speaker 3: Like, y'all close, y'all close, like because you know.

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Speaker 1: When we brought them on, right, Yeah, when we brought

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Speaker 1: So let me ask y'all. We had doctor Dre and

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Speaker 1: Snoop and doctor Dre I asked him for something. There's

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Speaker 2: I was like, you said that the firm flopped and

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Speaker 2: I could literally see Doctor Dre put his head down

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Speaker 2: and he was like, I shouldn't have said that, right,

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Speaker 2: And it's like, all these years later he regrets. Do

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Speaker 3: The gas pace? Obviously? Like you ever talk to Himmer

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Speaker 1: Like, no, I mean, but honestly I think that, Like,

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Speaker 3: This is my path, you know.

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Speaker 1: Eleven eleven twenty four, I celebrated thirteen years of recovery,

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Speaker 1: right so, like.

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Speaker 3: For like, so.

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Speaker 1: One of the big parts of my maturity is making amends, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: I take from my behavior, and.

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Speaker 3: This is how I act Differently.

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Speaker 1: It's not about apologizing, because you can be a sorry

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Speaker 1: mother fuck your whole life if you don't change. So

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Speaker 1: for me, it's not about apologizing about Look, I acknowledge

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Speaker 3: Now, this is how I act differently, right, I.

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Speaker 1: Would make amends to Hammel because I see it from

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Speaker 3: Pete's line that shit was hard body.

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Speaker 1: Like, let's be real clear, Like that lyric that he

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Speaker 3: No, that's what he did. Date his records.

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Speaker 1: Turn his mother out, hold the cactus, turn Hammer's mother out.

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Speaker 3: Yo. That ship was hard body for us.

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Speaker 5: And I was arguing with him straight up on the radio.

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Speaker 3: Ok, was.

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Speaker 5: He sabotaged us and put ham All on Live? Right?

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Speaker 3: Well, he ambushed us, Yeah, ambushed us on radio.

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Speaker 3: About his mom.

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Speaker 5: Search is then taking it back to the essence taking

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Speaker 5: please it is nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 3: I'm there.

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Speaker 5: Before we had records out. Search would try to get

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Speaker 1: And he had a Cadillac filled with so he was

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Speaker 3: He was.

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Speaker 5: And you know search in the record he said he

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Speaker 3: It is in his hometown.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was like, I mean, it was just

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Speaker 3: Right after that.

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Speaker 5: Like so we we actually were with him, met him,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you ain't hitting in New York and and.

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Speaker 7: That's what got That's where that's where our whole of

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Speaker 5: And that's where we were just pretty much defending you know,

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Speaker 3: Rush and yeah, absolutely right, absolutely right.

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Speaker 5: That's why you saw D m C and ms J

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Speaker 3: You ain't say I could do.

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Speaker 1: I could jump through my leg I could jump to

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Speaker 3: Don't care. I could dance my paradise.

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Speaker 5: the gold white boy, bring it, We'll bring it down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. He would have got served. You

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Speaker 1: don't got it served? Yeah, you know he got in

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Speaker 3: No, but I wasn't. I was really nice. We might

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Speaker 1: But the point is, but the point is now you

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Speaker 1: know obviously where I am in my life today, Like

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Speaker 1: I would make amends to him because I know that

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Speaker 1: must have been like you never spoke to him never met,

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Speaker 1: never never spoke to him.

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Speaker 2: That wow yea, And how about what you're talking about,

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Speaker 2: Leo cohones, Yes, el Roy, that.

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Speaker 3: Was did you have to make amends?

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Speaker 1: Because that's like, yeah, I mean that's like the first

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, do you know if ever that

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Speaker 1: So he was, you know, so he was he got

443
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 1: the City of Light honor right, so it was all

444
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: the deaf jam that picassidy. He says to me, goes motherfucker.

445
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: They still call me el Roy motherfucker. No, he said

446
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: it like this, they still.

447
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 8: Do.

448
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 3: You know they come to your mother. I know if

449
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 3: you search you.

450
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 5: Roy, you know what?

451
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 3: You know what's crazy about that?

452
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 5: He deserves every bit of it.

453
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 3: You got that one.

454
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 2: On one part of that, it's like Dan, you dissed me.

455
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 2: But on the other part of that, you made and

456
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 2: they live there forever too. So it's the good and

457
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 2: the bad. But how did this? How did le all

458
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 2: get the gas face? How does Elroy excuse me?

459
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: Well, you dealt with Leon? Yes, yeah, we go pleasure.

460
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 5: First of all, you go up into Leo's office. He's

461
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 5: got a big cutout of his fiance behind him, who

462
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 5: was a singer at the time, e k oh okay.

463
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: And you don't notice, Leo, you just right this is

464
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 3: to eight.

465
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 5: Elizabeth Freig Moxley was his assistant. So he's like behind

466
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 5: him in a little back office and he's just screaming

467
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 5: at people. One time we did they had us do

468
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 5: a rape. They wanted us to do a rave in London.

469
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 5: In London, and there were literally like two Nigerian princes

470
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 5: who came. We were in the rush office with them

471
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 5: and they were pitching this whole thing, and.

472
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 9: Leo's like, I wanted to get twenty thousand Republican to

473
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 9: meet ten thousand for third Base, ten thousands of day

474
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 9: La Soul, and these guys are guaranteeing and everything.

475
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 5: And I actually had the other guys picturing this is

476
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 5: let me just let me, let me just.

477
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: Rewind real quick because there's an important yeah, rewind, Yeah,

478
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: this is one really important part of this. Public Enemy

479
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 1: were supposed to perform the night before and they had

480
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: a ray right, so they already paid Public Enemy and

481
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: they didn't perform. So he was like, if you want

482
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: them again, it's going to cost another another twenty five

483
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: thousand plus for this group, plus for this group.

484
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 5: And he's like, if you do not get the money

485
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 5: to me, I am you would be your father will

486
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,719
Speaker 5: send you back to the bush.

487
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 10: And oh my god, he was brutal.

488
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: But let me just say he has one like literally,

489
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: when you talk about how we talk about the bag, No,

490
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: he had a bag, a brown paper bag, jimim guy.

491
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: No okay, a brown paper bag with fifty thousand bands.

492
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: And when he said to me and Peters they would

493
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: go back to the bush and get me my money

494
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: another time, No, no, no yo, And so I said,

495
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: So Pete leaves the room and.

496
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: I go, Yo, can I get ten dollars to get

497
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: something to eat? And he feels me five dollars Leo.

498
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 5: So Leo made me some promisory notes, maybe even for

499
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 5: my first born.

500
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 3: Like he never lost the dollars to a rapper.

501
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: He never left the rappers. That dude never lost the dime,

502
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: He never lost the pig and the dives. Like man,

503
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: he never left a penny on the table. I remember walking,

504
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: Do you remember the man? Do you remember when Jazz

505
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: Jeff in the Fresh Prince had the one eight hundred number? Okay,

506
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about a stack okay, So Jazz Jeff in

507
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: the Fresh Prince one eight hundred where you could call

508
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: them and they would wish you a happy holiday.

509
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 2: Married Jones was the first nigga that did that.

510
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 3: He did he actually gave.

511
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went into his office.

512
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: So we go into his office. There's a stack, a

513
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: stack of.

514
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: Checks made out to Jazzy Jeff and the Press Prince

515
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty four thousand, sixteen thousand.

516
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: A stack.

517
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: This had like he knew how to collect money. There

518
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: was one thing done on that. Yeah, but he was

519
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: a monster when it came to that ship. He never

520
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: left a penny on the table. And that's not a

521
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: bad thing, especially when he's working for you. When he's

522
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: working against you, it's a fucking moment.

523
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 10: So where you guys were the beef coman? How did

524
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 10: he get the gas face?

525
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 3: Like, no, we got the gas face was in the air.

526
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it was like he was like a turban dear.

527
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 5: But like, yo, David scrub It's.

528
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 3: Right, Dante needs a haircut, you know what I'm saying.

529
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 3: Like this, it was really like an inside shot out. Yes,

530
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 3: I saw them following him. Yeah, I get it. It's

531
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 3: like it's like you know, anybody.

532
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: Who got the gas face was real. I thought they

533
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 2: would never squash it with y'all.

534
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, it seemed you were just roll calling people people.

535
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, called the Leader of South Africa p w Bota click.

536
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: It was just fucking you know, it's ship.

537
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 2: But so, what is your what is your favorite era

538
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: hip hop? Damn well, I know what this is.

539
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 5: I'm one of the curators at the hip Hop Museum

540
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 5: with Paradise from Excelent Oh, so my life is.

541
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: Just hip hop history.

542
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 5: So I find myself as much as like nineteen eighty

543
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 5: six credits right at the time that every being Rock

544
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 5: Him came out, Like I would say that would be

545
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 5: golden era of the top like slice of time, but

546
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 5: I really would if I had to go back on

547
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 5: time machine, I want to go back to like, you know,

548
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 5: seventy five at the Evil O with who herk, Park Ken,

549
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 5: all those guys DJ Smoke you well the guy, and

550
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 5: all these other guys who were pivotal in the history

551
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 5: of hip hop that no one knows about.

552
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: And no one knows that.

553
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you gonna do your job and get up.

554
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: But that's a Spike era, right, the Spikes and the

555
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: dark Glasses and no.

556
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 5: No, no, no, that that's really like the the A

557
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 5: J Lester you know him, you know uptown like colchar

558
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 5: Rock type thing. And like you know when when colclar

559
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 5: Rock tells people, you know her hert was from Jamaica.

560
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 5: He didn't know how to dress. I had to take

561
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 5: him up to town.

562
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: The album they say the other dul DJ with her,

563
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: but he also would talk HERK would talk too.

564
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 5: But they credit him to be one of the first

565
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 5: mcs exactly, and you know there were there were a

566
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 5: number of them, but Colk would say, I would take

567
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 5: them aj Lester to get the fly ship. And when

568
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 5: I was working with Hirt's brother and he had a

569
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 5: shoe box full of all these receipts and there's like

570
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 5: a cool Hurtz receipt from nineteen seventy five from aj Leslter.

571
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 5: So I showed it to Coke. He's like I told everybody,

572
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 5: I took there so that going back in a time

573
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 5: machine to that age would be for me, you know,

574
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 5: that would be the tops. Okay, So now with search

575
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 5: search would think, hold on.

576
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: Actually the Swiss beats cost tomorrow and he says, I

577
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: want you guys to do versus you guys picked your group?

578
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 3: Who you pick it?

579
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 5: Well, first off, I want to get Swiss beats and

580
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 5: Alicia Keys. They bought the cool Hurt speakers, which we're

581
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 5: actually in talks with them to try to loan them

582
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 5: to the museum. Oh wow, actually used within.

583
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: They actually got they got quired. Yeah, I never they bought.

584
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 5: And they have their Giants exhibition that's going around the country.

585
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 5: Hurts Herculos speakers are in that exhibition, but with diverses.

586
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: But with the verses. Yes, third base against who oh

587
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: third base? Yes?

588
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 5: Oh?

589
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: Are you you go solo too? No?

590
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I thought you were talking about not base.

591
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: Because in case days, I don't know, if you know, yeah,

592
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: let's see.

593
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: I think.

594
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 5: X plan third base would be probably the.

595
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: I don't think that. I think yeah, okay.

596
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 5: Now obviously we had you know, sugar Chef professor, but yeah,

597
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 5: that would be. I think that would have been because

598
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 5: as much as we have b for the X Plan,

599
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 5: I mean we both love Brother Jay like Brother j

600
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 5: it was like one one of our favorite mcs.

601
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: I think also there's a you know with La Mumba

602
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: May rest in peace and paradise. You know, there's a

603
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: lot of love there, you know what I'm saying, Like

604
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: even though they were like how can the bowler best

605
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: gorillas and like all of that ship, but I think

606
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: it was all like whole I mean, for me, it's easy.

607
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: It's e pm D. I was thinking more a pm D.

608
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, third Baking, apm D like to me, third base

609
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: and e pm D only because.

610
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: Smooth too.

611
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: Nice and smooth would be great because we did records together.

612
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: To me, but you know, I think that it's really

613
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: challenging for us because at the end of the day,

614
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: where two albums deep, and that's the crazy ship. Like

615
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: if you think about the thirty five years, I.

616
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: Think they got one album right, one and a half

617
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: and that no one knows that right house party party,

618
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: No one knows that, you know.

619
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 11: But La Hill had one album, but she had also

620
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 11: but she when we say Laura Hill, yeah, no, that's true.

621
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 11: You can perform Fuji records. She can do Fuji records

622
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 11: and she got that big, big cap record when she

623
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 11: bodied that ship. She said, I'm for woman up to

624
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 11: make it that that that whole verse is crazy. But

625
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 11: to me, it's epm D move. To me, those are

626
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 11: both good. What about you if CNN got back together.

627
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 11: Who would you want to do versus against.

628
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: CNN CNN versy and it's none of us anyway, right, yeah,

629
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: just I'll beat it in your minds, in your like

630
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: against the Spanish version of Norri and then right then

631
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: the version and then the pharal version versus the capon

632
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: and version of We can actually put it off and

633
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: we could be in the same state too.

634
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty impressive, cute that one. So is it time

635
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: for the flowers? Yes?

636
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: Our show was about giving legends they flowers while they

637
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: could smell them. They treats where they could help them,

638
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: they thoughts where they could think them, and they drinks

639
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: where they can drink them. We were so happy to

640
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: see you brothers back together, so happy because I said

641
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: this to doctor Dre and i'mna say it to you, guys.

642
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: I said to doctor Dre, life is better when he's

643
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: making music, and life is better when third bases in

644
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: the motherfucking game.

645
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 3: He owes me. That's just from making me go to

646
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: the house of fucking Athletes to sit in the room

647
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: for three hours.

648
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: My god, I love this guy and it really is

649
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: great you guys, but really, really, I really want to

650
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: see you guys on tour, like, since we're giving out flowers, Yeah,

651
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: I got something for y'all. Okay, okay, okay, since you

652
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: know we're giving out ship you're not taking back this record.

653
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: I just figured you want maybe one other one? Oh man, yes,

654
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: I want. So these two copies came out. This is

655
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: limited edition.

656
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,239
Speaker 3: I got to crack it open, right, Okay, that's how

657
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: you crack it over Nintendo. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so you

658
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: might want to. I'm gonna let you check it out.

659
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, yeah, he's gonna take it from me anyway.

660
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: You're going to give it to me Green. Oh, he's

661
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: bullies my vity. That's a limited edition Green. That's beautiful.

662
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, so the link on the bio link is

663
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: on my mc serves bio will be on Pete's bio.

664
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: You can go and get those right now.

665
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 10: And you said the original pressing of this, they only

666
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 10: did it on one one copy.

667
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was forty seven minutes aside, and we had

668
00:32:54,360 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 1: a frame it and the Clark oh yeah. Locke used

669
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: to complain about the grooves all the time, how thin

670
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: they were and how like the base would want well,

671
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: so we always talked about like, yo, there should have

672
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: been a double album.

673
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: I'm one of those deaths.

674
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 5: We never got double royalties.

675
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: Know we actually think you know what?

676
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: And and that's I want to shout out Monty Lipman,

677
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: and I do want to shout out the Libman brothers

678
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: because once they became the chairman's of def Jam, they

679
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: put me in Pete in the legacy program. So we

680
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: got our first royalty checks ever in thirty five years.

681
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: And August explain what that is the legacy So this

682
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: is so the legacy program basically means.

683
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: No, okay.

684
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: So it's basically this, if you signed a fucked up

685
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: deal before two thousand, they zero your debt.

686
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 5: Wow.

687
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: So that's basically it is only right. It's right. And

688
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: we signed to Left Hand Records.

689
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 5: I mean.

690
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: He told me. He's trying to tell me that I

691
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: didn't tell you. Seriously.

692
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 5: I thought he's bullshited me. I didn't do it, so

693
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 5: I have it. No, No, I thought that it wasn't possible.

694
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 5: I thought he was sucking around with me.

695
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: The music industry is trying to do good.

696
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: For us, certainly for us, like I gotta be honest

697
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: with you and shout out like Charlene Thomas at Death Jam,

698
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: like She literally brought people from Hollywood to Hialiah to

699
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: get this vinyl here for y'all today.

700
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: Like, so shout out to Charlene, shout out to death Jam.

701
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: They fucking Erica all of the people.

702
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: There's people now that are running catalog like people that

703
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: we knew, like Tina Dynham used to be the head

704
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: of marketing who did Wayne Records. Now all she does

705
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: is catalog and the same people who have the same energy. No,

706
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: she's a reservoir She's she's a reservoir masters as well.

707
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah she so she did the Day Long.

708
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 5: Okay, she's on the board at the Hip Hop Museum

709
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 5: as well, So I will say that. You know, it

710
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 5: was also in the female group called four Pack.

711
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

712
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: So I definitely feel like at least Monty who's now

713
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: the chairman of Deaf gen and you can see what

714
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: they're doing for the artists from our generation and how

715
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: they're trying to like step up and do the right

716
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: thing right because I remember hearing people said those contracts

717
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: back in the days always had that word of perpetuity,

718
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: and no one knew throughout the universe, no one knew

719
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: what perpetuity meant.

720
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: Since two thousand and five. Well even deeper. I'll go

721
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: one step deeper.

722
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 1: We signed it what's called an at will agreement, which

723
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: means that we didn't sign a recording contract.

724
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: We signed as at will employees to record a record.

725
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 10: On behalf of deafth Gam like being an independent contractor correct, what.

726
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: Is a work?

727
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, that means they own our records for lot. Wow,

728
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: we have to suit them at the Hip Hop Museum.

729
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 5: We got contracts that would make your stomach to Joe

730
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 5: Ski loves contract. People can see that a contract the

731
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 5: Mic and Day of Records with SWEETYG and positive case

732
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 5: first records on the Mic and Day label, like just crazy,

733
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 5: and then even going up to like the early Hudan

734
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 5: you know the first those are like the real first

735
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 5: contract running them. But you know when we by the

736
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 5: time we had our deal with deaf Jam, we were

737
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 5: like kind of in that transition period, like people really

738
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 5: didn't get paid until.

739
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: No, we didn't know, No, we didn't get shipped. I mean,

740
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: but I tell people this all the time. There's there's

741
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: the left hand records side of it, and then there's

742
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: the deaf Jam Records oute of it. Right, the left

743
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: hand records side of it is. We didn't have off

744
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: We met with Tom Silverman. Tom Silverman literally Tom Silverman

745
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: was the head of Tommy Boys. We literally looked at

746
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: me and Pete said, I can't give you more money

747
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: than stets of Sonic.

748
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: What am I gonna tell that yet?

749
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, what the fuck does that have to

750
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: do with anything? So you know what I'm saying, Like,

751
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't like we had a lot of offers. It

752
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: wasn't until after the Battle for World Supremacy that he,

753
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, Russell was like, oh, you.

754
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: Know, we want to sign you. But it wasn't was

755
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: a fault. Let me speak for y'all. Let me speak

756
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 3: for y'all. Yeah, please.

757
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: You probably didn't know you had his many offers because

758
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: at that time we didn't have a Twitter. We didn't

759
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: have But you guys are probably hot on the street.

760
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: We were hot on the street because we were hot

761
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: on the street, you know, because Pete had this radio show.

762
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: I was in the quarters, I was battling people. Pete

763
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: was outside with Clark like we were in the mix.

764
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 2: That's my question is you said that there was in

765
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: the office, but you didn't probably do extensive search.

766
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 5: It was small.

767
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 3: It was a small little.

768
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 10: File select record and they were gonna find.

769
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 3: You and yeah, and they didn't like I never seen

770
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: plot Nikki, they didn't want to sign us.

771
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 5: You know. We were also at the time when the

772
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 5: Boys were blowing up, so that that was also something

773
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 5: all these other big labels look like for that white

774
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 5: group White Seas were like kind of had that Rockete

775
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 5: and we were not that.

776
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: That's a that's a great example because uh, you know

777
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: when we came out, they had no other choice but

778
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 2: the pis the mob deep. There was no other black

779
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: kids from Queens in that area at the time. So

780
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: it was that something that I want to say, just

781
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: because because they wanted they wanted y'all to be the

782
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: Beastie Boys.

783
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And then the thing is like there's been

784
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 5: this talk like oh Russell got us to fill in

785
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 5: for the Beastie Boys. We were already signed to we

786
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 5: were Solos on Rush and even we just signed on

787
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 5: def Jen after they left. So like I went to

788
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 5: Leo's wedding, certain the Dominican reports could not go to

789
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 5: the wedding because he had to work.

790
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I couldn't go to the wedding because

791
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 3: he didn't invite me to the woman he left.

792
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 5: No, no, no, he didn't.

793
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 3: I remember.

794
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 5: Search was delivering chicken delay no ch Ganada, which was

795
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 5: called the think Tank.

796
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: It did not have a radio on sar you had

797
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: you had a record deal and you were still delivering.

798
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: So I was yeah. No, I had three job, young artists. No,

799
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: I had three No, I had three jobs. Who's the

800
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: three jobs?

801
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: So the first job was I would drive Yeshiva boys

802
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: from Queen's near you to Yeshiva's in Far Rockaway, so

803
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: very religious Jewish schools.

804
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: I would go from there, I said. I started four

805
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: thirty in the morning. Then I go from there.

806
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: I'd go to the harm and Y in Far Rockaway

807
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: and I drove a truck, a food truck to homeless shelters.

808
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: So I delivered food to homeless shelters all through the

809
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: five boroughs in the twenty six foot of refrigerator. Then

810
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: I'd come back at four point thirty. I'd get about

811
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: a half an hour of sleep, and then I pick

812
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: up the Ahiva boys and I take them back to

813
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: Queen's to be about seven thirty eight, and then we

814
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: go to studio. That was That was my rotation for

815
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: a year.

816
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: Even when.

817
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: Get the crazy shit. Though, this was the crazy shit.

818
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: So step into the AM is a video. It's out.

819
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm driving a truck in Brooklyn and this dude and

820
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm milk cookies butter crunch. This kid testing goes, ain't

821
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: that you? And I'm like, nah, you know, but there

822
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: was no money we got. I think our advanced was

823
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand dollars and something like that, like you know

824
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like you know, and half of.

825
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: That went to my mom. But I'm still gonna invite

826
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 3: you to the wedding. He didn't invite me.

827
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: He might see it differently. I didn't get invited to

828
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: the wedding, no invite. When he went, you got, you got?

829
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: He went he had invited you, he did not. Everybody went.

830
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 5: It was like if that plane went down, all the

831
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 5: hip hop would have been on, Yeah, hello, everybody, everybody is.

832
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 3: Joe. I was not invited to the wedding. I was

833
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: not invited. I always thought, like back in the day,

834
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 3: like it is.

835
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 5: What it is.

836
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 3: I mean again, it's perception, right.

837
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: So I'm a twenty one year old kid and I'm

838
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: already telling you like I'm really not really seeing things, right,

839
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: You know.

840
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: I mean, like that's just how I saw things. I

841
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 3: didn't see things right.

842
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: I always said like, oh, ley'all loves Pete Russell loves me,

843
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: Like that's how I always felt, like, oh, because it's

844
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, that's just that was

845
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: your perception of my perception. I felt totally opposite, like

846
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying like that, so you know,

847
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So so you know again

848
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: he could have invited me. All I remember is I

849
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: went to the airport, right, I was delivering chicken. I

850
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: got finished delivering my gang. I knew there was something

851
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: and I got them tumble umble and thinking that was crazy?

852
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: Is those days there was no ts A. He walked

853
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: in again. So I'm like Michael barn They're like who.

854
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, Michael Barren my ticket and I got the

855
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: mambo and I'm crying in the airport. I'm watching everybody

856
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: getting on the plane.

857
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: With his wife, Simon fucking this one man he's with Rick.

858
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: He left you too. He was like, I'll see you

859
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: with my tan. I'm just showing rush. You know, it

860
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: wasn't it wasn't there something about ll swimming with his

861
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: hat yeah, like, oh, this is such a great story.

862
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 5: He would go under in the waves and he would

863
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 5: come up with the kango.

864
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: Oh ship.

865
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 5: You know you when I say you see him six

866
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 5: o'clock in the morning.

867
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: No no, so yeah, no no, no, no, no, no,

868
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: no no no the fishers so what So there was

869
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: supposedly this story that Ecstasy told me, may he rest

870
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: in peace.

871
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: Yes, l goes in the water, the kango comes up.

872
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: That ain't out. So now everybody's going to the yo.

873
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: Else hat because nobody knows what his head looks like.

874
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: No one's seen him without the hat except his passport photo, right,

875
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: So everybody's and this is what John X is telling me.

876
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: Everybody runs to the water.

877
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: Water is crystal clear, and they're looking and they're looking right,

878
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: and they're looking and all of a sudden.

879
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 12: Hands pull and he comes out commitment about comment that

880
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 12: alopecia is a bitch.

881
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 3: It's crazy. This morning the audition, what was it? What

882
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: movie it was?

883
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: Becomes he goes box. Was it crisical or yeah? Yeah,

884
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: he just starts performing. That fucking scene is just so like.

885
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 5: But it was on Legendary, that was on that's the

886
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 5: time when we came up it was to ninety eight

887
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 5: Elizabeth that office that was like the center of hip hop,

888
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 5: and like we go in the office, we're next thceing.

889
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 5: You know, we're playing their football, We're running thee on.

890
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 3: That's not where Tom King was at, right, No, he

891
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: was around around the corner. Okay, it was on Sunday.

892
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the next generation after that next week, you know,

893
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: I speak jealousey.

894
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 5: Yo, come on me, I gotta find rock him to

895
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 5: get his passport photo for the Depth Champ during nineteen

896
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 5: eighty seven.

897
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: Right, you know it was yeah, we were like, yeah,

898
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: we would watch Dante's house while he was road managing

899
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: or being rocked him, like you know what I mean,

900
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: Like this was like you know it and when you

901
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: when when you teach, or when you educate, or when

902
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: I go and lecture, when you watch kids' eyes when

903
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: you say, okay, I come from a place where there

904
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: was no thing called hip hop, there was no business,

905
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: there was no streaming their eye's. All of a sudden,

906
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: you become like an artifact, like how did you even survive?

907
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: Right, like how did you even?

908
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 13: Like you know?

909
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: But it's the truth and Graham mixed the DXT says

910
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: it all the time, he says, you know, we are

911
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: a nameless culture that was given a name a by

912
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: a machine.

913
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: That doesn't even care about as an industry, right, you

914
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

915
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: Like the word hip hop came from the rappers the

916
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: Light Record, and somebody wrote about it in the Village

917
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: Voice and called it hip hop or whatever, like there

918
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: was some periodical right.

919
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: Like they had to define it to monetize it correct,

920
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 3: and it wasn't.

921
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 5: It was even even more like well wild style of

922
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 5: the movie came out, they called it the hip Hop Movie.

923
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 5: It started to spread and it just became known as

924
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 5: hip hop. And you look on the flyers who looked

925
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 5: on all the advertisements. It really started to show up

926
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 5: after eighty three. Look at the first ten years, it

927
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 5: wasn't even hip hop, wasn't even a thing.

928
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: It wasn't a thing. It was just you were tagging

929
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 3: on walls, you were dancing on floors, you know, and

930
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 3: you guys era right, it was almost like.

931
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: Like frowned upon to have a commercial record, a radio record.

932
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, being on the radio wasn't the best thing for

933
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 3: true hip hop artist. You remember that list Out Goes

934
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: the Weasel.

935
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 5: The record we did was based on that, like we

936
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 5: got offer commercials right, different things we turned down. We

937
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 5: cannot do anything just because you didn't want to look

938
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 5: like you were commercializing.

939
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: Should selling out and the point we would try to

940
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: do records that right, But that was the problem.

941
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: It was it was the problem, and it was the

942
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: point at the same time, because you know, for us

943
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: to go commercial was corny, right, because every executive in

944
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: the room was a cornball. They were all straight bozos,

945
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 1: so they didn't know anything. So because they didn't know anything,

946
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: how am I going to intercept your bozonees with authenticity

947
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: and still be credible when I go home? Right, Because

948
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: that's the shit I care about, Like, I don't live

949
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: in commercial land.

950
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 3: I don't live where you live.

951
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: I got to go back to Redfern and o V

952
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: and see my people. So there was no credibility in

953
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: doing that. It's not like today where you know, the

954
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: people that you're now talking in the rooms with grew

955
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: up on fifty years of hip hop.

956
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 10: But let me be honest, like now, if you're not

957
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 10: commercial and you're not irrelevant in him honest for me.

958
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: Right after you guys era, it was a time where

959
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: like NAS was the most loved kid in the world,

960
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: right love person in the world, right love man in

961
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 2: the world, whatever we want to say.

962
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 3: And then he came with that album.

963
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 10: I believe it was written right after it was written

964
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 10: the golden album Nomadic Illmatic, where a lot of people

965
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 10: say he he might have made money, might have changed

966
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 10: his life, might have got him out of the hood,

967
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 10: but it wasn't that level of success.

968
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 3: It wasn't a commercial success. It wasn't the commercial success.

969
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: So people will argue you, like dam that took away

970
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: from Knas, But some people will argue like that made

971
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: actually the perfect foundation.

972
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: So I would so Win Win has hip hop? When

973
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: when did that ever?

974
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: Because even Wu Tang, like Wu Tang's first album, I

975
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: listened to that ship and if you go look at

976
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: the algorithms of the album, at least seven or eight

977
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: records were on the radio. They weren't promoted, but they

978
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: were on the radio, and that was the algorithm at

979
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: the time.

980
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 3: So when didn't hip hop? When when did it come from?

981
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: You being underground?

982
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: But if your record happens to go commercial, it was

983
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 2: still accepted. So I'll share two stories. Was a great question,

984
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: by the way, this is a good question. You got

985
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: too pioneers. This is that's honestly something I want to

986
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: know because so I.

987
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: Don't know that, right, So I can I can share

988
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: two like practical points when we were talking about when

989
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: I came to you and did.

990
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: The public inemy public Inemy records was always underground, but

991
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: they were they were they were selling to the people.

992
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: It seemed like they were distant almost yeah no, yeah,

993
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 2: And they were selling in Europe with the entire audience.

994
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 5: So you have a bike planet the entire audience is white.

995
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 3: Wow.

996
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: So I was doing consulting for Nike in nineteen ninety three, right.

997
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: I was working with a guy named Mark Ray and

998
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: a woman named Kim White. And I played them a

999
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 1: record where NA said I'm a Nike head. I would

1000
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: change that excite them, right, And I said to it

1001
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: in point blank, you should probably give me like fifty

1002
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: bands right now this for this mention, because I promise

1003
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: you what's going to happen is as soon as every

1004
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: kid in Queen's here's this, They're going to hang up

1005
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: their tims and go by Nikes. Right. And I was

1006
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: able to get them a check wow, right, just because

1007
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: I was consulting them and they believed me. But what

1008
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: I did was when I started working with Mark Echo

1009
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: and Echo Unlimited Market. So you know, you know it's

1010
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: funny you talk about, you know, anniversaries. This is the

1011
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: thirtieth anniversary of Echo, right, you know when we started it,

1012
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: Mark always had this philosophy of like, okay, we have

1013
00:48:59,719 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: to do.

1014
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: Natural integration, but commercialize it.

1015
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: Right, So we were talking about like when I did

1016
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: the CNN Michael, we went to the building because I said, Yo,

1017
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: where do you smoke?

1018
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: Where do y'all go hang out and smoke? Is that

1019
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: what we go to? So rushat and everything was.

1020
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: Grainy and it looked like we captured and when we dipped,

1021
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: when I shot Prodigy made Recipes and mob Deep, they

1022
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: were on the forty side of Vernet, hanging off on

1023
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: the bench, you know.

1024
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: So it was about having.

1025
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: Those voices in the room that could say, this is

1026
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: what's credible, this is what's real, this is what feels

1027
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: real because it is real.

1028
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 3: And we're talking to the artists because we're not coming

1029
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 3: up with some.

1030
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: Catchphraset a bunch of people, right, so like all the catchphrases,

1031
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: Like me and Buster were talking about it. When we

1032
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: did his it was him and his son to Zaia,

1033
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: who's now thirty something, right, and he his son had

1034
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: to go use the bathroom and were like, do you

1035
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: want to go with to Zaia, He's like, now, let

1036
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: him pull his pants down, he'll figure it out. I

1037
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: was like, that's the quote, and that was the quote.

1038
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like because it was real

1039
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: to what he was experiencing while he was in the clothes,

1040
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: while he was wearing the clothes. That was what was

1041
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: missing for me and Pete's era in ninety one. That's

1042
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: why we couldn't do Kentucky Fried Chicken ass.

1043
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: That's what we.

1044
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: Couldn't do because there was no one in there that

1045
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: we could correlate our realness, our authenticity and then have

1046
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: that become an eco siloed fucking no this zero. But

1047
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: when that goal would gravitate everybody that go is real.

1048
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: They got the real dudes, They got the real dog

1049
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: in retro aspect, right, and the bag was real like

1050
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: the bag that I was saying living in that time, right,

1051
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: it was.

1052
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: It was kind of crazy to say that we got

1053
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: messed up contracts, but let's not take these this money

1054
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 2: from over here, because we'll be corny for taking that

1055
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: money over there are we.

1056
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 3: Saying that we didn't care about our family? Know what

1057
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 3: we're saying.

1058
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: No, But but listen, if you say because you say

1059
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, they always say that Michael Jordan had one

1060
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: of the least powerful contracts in the NBA.

1061
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 3: But he went he all his money through Nike and.

1062
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: All this other ship, so he had a chance to

1063
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 2: hire good players around him. So what I'm saying is,

1064
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: back then, if all concerts were so fucked up back then,

1065
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: why was it fucked up for us to make it

1066
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: somewhere else?

1067
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: That's you know what I mean?

1068
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: And the answer is because you would have been so

1069
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: fucked up that your credibility would have been fucked up.

1070
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: But even though it doesn't make sense.

1071
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: If nobody somebody, if somebody is a cornball, and one

1072
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: thing about you, right right, if somebody is a cornball,

1073
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: you fucking with them.

1074
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: And if somebody's a cornball and birdman, they co signed

1075
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: Lugs and they still survived.

1076
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think that bad was that serious.

1077
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: But they add was that serious.

1078
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: Nobody listened to them, but nobody fucked with Ugs, and

1079
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 2: nobody was like fucked with Ugs regardless, Like no one

1080
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: went out and fucked with Uggs like lugs whatever they

1081
00:51:59,160 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 2: call nobody.

1082
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: Nobody fucked with it because that shi was for Gayzy

1083
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: and everybody knew it was a badground.

1084
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 5: Remember when they wanted us to be on Beverly Hills

1085
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 5: nine o two on Donnie Aner and Tommy Mottola were begging.

1086
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: Us, I would they should be so great.

1087
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 5: Episode where the whole that whole crew of kids goes

1088
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 5: to what depends what the scene and there's a band

1089
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 5: playing where the band and one of the kids gets

1090
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 5: slipped to Mickey. They get Mickey ospital or whatever whatever,

1091
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 5: and sure enough the group gets involved in the whole

1092
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 5: like it's the Scooby Doo episode or whatever.

1093
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: Drunks are bad, but we were just like listen, we

1094
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: would have been class hons in.

1095
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 3: Hindsight later I'm gonna be. But I can see it

1096
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: doesn't like you if you wouldn't understand was I was

1097
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: the whole era. I know, I know what you're saying,

1098
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 3: and I know back then that's what Warranton is about.

1099
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: This glory how about this? We go in for a

1100
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: reading from Malcolm X Okay, me and Pete that was

1101
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: gonna be a Malcolm.

1102
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 3: X Spike, I'm about to do so going on me, I'm.

1103
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: So we get in Sam Jackson is dare he's reading

1104
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: with us in Spike and we get the sides and

1105
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: it's c O one CEO two, and he wants us

1106
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: to read.

1107
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 3: When they asked Malcolm Little his numbers and when he

1108
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 3: didn't give his red red in jails, Malcolm Little real

1109
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 3: name like little saying saying, and he kills it. He

1110
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 3: like kills the.

1111
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: Reading and Sam's nah and and and and I'm not

1112
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: really killed it. And then Pe just goes really.

1113
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: Like, this is what you want us to do? Really?

1114
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 5: And I was like, do you walk into a movie there?

1115
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 5: You see third dase.

1116
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 3: I was acting acting acting. I can see that it

1117
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 3: is active, but hold taking that? You know, how would

1118
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 3: the hood taking that hood taking describe.

1119
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: Wout'll y'all describe it? And this is real talk. Yeah,

1120
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 2: error was too hardcore.

1121
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 5: Man.

1122
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 3: It's true yea, but you know nothing you can about that.

1123
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 3: My generation half real just.

1124
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 10: Kept them.

1125
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 3: Why it's true. It's true. Like what you're saying right

1126
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: now was.

1127
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: Like, yo, you know what the hood, the respect, the look,

1128
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: it's more important.

1129
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: My boys would actually vegutory something. Yeah, of course, even

1130
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: said to the Spike, I said, Spike, when was the

1131
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: last time somebody asked you to play a show for

1132
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: in a movie? And then we placed and we rock

1133
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: and I said, and then you know, I did Bamboozoo,

1134
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: you know, two thousand and had a better look.

1135
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 14: But like it was, it would have been horrible for us. Yeah,

1136
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 14: it would have been horrible. That would like, yo, would

1137
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 14: have been like nickname. He just looked at me, just

1138
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 14: still upset about it.

1139
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 3: He was upset. I can't understand.

1140
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: I can understand because an acting everything is warranty, right, right, right,

1141
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, So I can understand it.

1142
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: But on the street people take that shit.

1143
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: Thespians trying to just do this right, and it wound

1144
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: up being to Thespians and it got two actors and

1145
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: who knows who they are, and nobody cared.

1146
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 5: But if it was us, right, yeah, that's a serious subject.

1147
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 3: Let me really serious.

1148
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 5: Let me see.

1149
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: Because I even said to him, because I read at

1150
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: that time, I was reading Malcolm X at least once

1151
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: a year. I said, Yo, there's that scene in Colombia

1152
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: when the student walks up to Malcolm and he's going

1153
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: to do the thing. He says, Yo, I don't have

1154
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: a racist bone in my body. And even though I'm white,

1155
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: isn't there anything I can do? When Malcolm looks at

1156
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: her and goes no and keeps moving, I said, why

1157
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: can't he close to Columbia?

1158
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 3: Like, Yo, why can't we do that role? Like it's

1159
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 3: fucking authentic. He fucking graduated Magnicum louder degree in English.

1160
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: Let them other do that. Now, that's real. But acting

1161
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 3: is whatever so real? Like everything was real, even Belly.

1162
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 3: I remember when not Belly people were really thinking he was.

1163
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 3: People were asking me, when's your man getting out? I'm like,

1164
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 3: I'm from where where was he hitting from?

1165
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: In retrospect, this is something that I know, Uh, you're

1166
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: close to is I believe when it comes to acting

1167
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 2: and people sticking with those roles that they categorized ass

1168
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 2: I believe Bishop was the one, oh Tupac, Like I don't.

1169
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: I believe both of you guys know Tupac. I've never

1170
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 2: met Tupac. Right before that, people said he became.

1171
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 5: We heard it because Rich Daddy Rich was in juice

1172
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 5: with him and saw the transformation from when we were

1173
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 5: on tour, Like we.

1174
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 3: Tupac used to come in my Digital underground. He was

1175
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 3: with Digital, he was dancing. You would just come in

1176
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 3: the room. He would free style.

1177
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 5: Two us trying to get it. He's trying to like,

1178
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 5: what what do you think?

1179
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: What do you think?

1180
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 5: I'm like, that's all right, you know, and base and

1181
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 5: he he's actually walking up to Rich and saying, you're Rich,

1182
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 5: Can I help you carry your cases?

1183
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 3: You need you help? Yeah.

1184
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 5: We we bought him whoppers everything. He was such a

1185
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 5: good dude though, like you was a good dude.

1186
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: Like and we would be on the road and you know,

1187
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: Shock g ma Res and Pece and me, like he

1188
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 1: would just play the keys and we would freestyle damn

1189
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: it all night, this off the top of our head

1190
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: about how much we loved each other, how much we

1191
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: loved where we were at, how much we love how

1192
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: we were moving, you know, and and it was just

1193
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: it was family.

1194
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 3: You know.

1195
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: It's really like a family, like you know, we play

1196
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: pool with Queen Latifa and Mooney, or we'd work.

1197
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 3: Out with this one. It's really a family.

1198
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 10: But that kind of the moral of this whole story

1199
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 10: is that back then it was like a small community

1200
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 10: and doing certain things would kind of exile you from

1201
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 10: that community.

1202
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 3: But back to what he saying.

1203
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 5: So Tupac once we want a conversation, told me about

1204
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 5: his mom, and I see that he had like these

1205
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 5: friendship bracelets and like a silver bracelet and just like

1206
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 5: a little silver chain with a little silver madown. He's like,

1207
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 5: you never wear gold. Tells the whole story about the

1208
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 5: gold trade, and so he's in Jews. Rich reports back

1209
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 5: to us, like I think Tupac thinks he's this character,

1210
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 5: like he saw it right in from his face. So

1211
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 5: we do this show and uh, I think it was

1212
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 5: a Gavin at the Townsend. And we walked to the

1213
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 5: side stage and who's standing there in the corner with

1214
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 5: this big dookie cable on with the big gold medallion. No, no,

1215
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 5: like Brenda got a baby. We clowned him and he

1216
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, he was pissed.

1217
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 3: Man. Like we were like, yo, whatever going on, homie? Yeah,

1218
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: slave man? You know, yeah, that's all that.

1219
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, Like we were all young,

1220
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: like we were all really young, like making thank you,

1221
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: we were making adult decisions as children, like you know

1222
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I think about like the decisions

1223
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: I made about the demise of our partnership at twenty

1224
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: three years old, Like I got kids, you know, my

1225
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: kids at thirty, twenty and twenty seven, Like, I can't

1226
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: imagine my kids at twenty three making the decisions.

1227
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 3: That I was making. I was, I was just not

1228
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 3: capable of making those decisions.

1229
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 5: Real talk, you got something to say, I'll just say,

1230
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 5: like when we get Daddy Richard here, he'll you can

1231
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 5: go one up with that two punk story.

1232
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 3: He was in the battle scene.

1233
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 5: You know, rich rich was right on the set and

1234
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 5: he's got a good perspective on that.

1235
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: I think.

1236
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 10: I think when we talk about whether it be pop

1237
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 10: or big, we we talk about them now as if

1238
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 10: like if they were older, not remembering that these were

1239
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 10: young men, really young men, yeah, doing what they were

1240
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 10: doing and making the mistakes that young people do, right,

1241
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 10: but we're trying to bring them to our age now

1242
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 10: like oh that was fucked though they did this and

1243
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 10: expect you know.

1244
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: That's what I love about what like Wallow did with

1245
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: Kodak Black and what Wallow did with Thugs. Like you know,

1246
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: there's certain people that are in the podcast space right

1247
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: that really take it upon themselves to like understand like

1248
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: if we're going to really uplift this next generation of

1249
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: kids that are really getting money, like insane amounts of money. Yeah,

1250
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: we have to start to level the playing field in

1251
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: terms of what they understand about commerces, what they understand

1252
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: about not just being a brand, but what they understand

1253
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: about brand responsibility, brand focus, brand vision, you know, really

1254
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 1: bringing them into a level of conversation that they'll they'll

1255
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: get because if they don't, they'll find themselves already five

1256
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: and broke.

1257
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah that's up. Yeah, Thomas.

1258
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 10: Before we get into that, I want to ask you

1259
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 10: going back a little bit the Beastie Boys, what was

1260
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 10: the rift there?

1261
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 3: I'll start.

1262
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 5: You want to start one Riff was my best friends

1263
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 5: in college. My roommate, he wrote sake he went to

1264
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 5: school with Mike d and my other boy Mike and

1265
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 5: uh Ad Rock went to school with that boy and

1266
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 5: she disagreed to a killy and uh m c A

1267
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 5: went to school with all of the men, even when

1268
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 5: playma school.

1269
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so.

1270
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 5: They always looked at them as like, you know, you're

1271
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 5: coming up, you're a white kid in Brooklyn whatever, you know,

1272
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 5: the kids who were down with hip hop. Basically they're

1273
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 5: saying like they were not down with hip hop when

1274
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 5: they were down with hip hop.

1275
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:03,959
Speaker 3: So it was it was like yo, those kids because

1276
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 3: they came to a punk sy, but the punksy came

1277
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 3: up together.

1278
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,959
Speaker 5: Well that's if you told to me and search about

1279
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 5: the punk Sy, we could tell you anything.

1280
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 3: About the punk sea correct were. But that's just like, no,

1281
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 3: it doesn't boy boy, one guy who was in both things.

1282
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: But the kids like like like there was a guy

1283
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,439
Speaker 1: named Dave Skilkin, May rest in peace. He was there

1284
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: like their guy, like there was two people captain, yeah,

1285
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: may rest in peace. And that's the sucky thing about

1286
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: doing this at fifty seven is how many people you

1287
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: gotta bless right, which is another reason.

1288
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 3: Why we're sitting here today.

1289
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: So the whole thing, at least my side, was I

1290
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: really didn't understand how Russell was moving with our contract.

1291
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: And Russell was living in Barrow Street at the time.

1292
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: Right up the block was Mike D's apartment, and Mike

1293
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: D was with this kid showing the Captain karasof who

1294
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: was there manager May rest in peace. And I was

1295
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: so frustrated, I said, fuck it, I'm knock on Mike

1296
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: D's doing.

1297
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 3: Just ask them see how.

1298
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 5: Because this is the famous blogoney story?

1299
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 3: Is this?

1300
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 5: Is this the bloney story ane story?

1301
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I don't know. I don't know what that bologna,

1302
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna find out. So I went upstairs.

1303
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: So I went upstairs to his apartment. Sean's knocked down

1304
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: on the on the sofa. I go to speak to Mike.

1305
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: They had just left Deaf Jaine and they just signed

1306
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: their deal a Capital, and I said, hey, man, like

1307
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: I don't really understand what the fuck is going on, Like,

1308
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: help me understand, like how Russell moves?

1309
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 3: We got this deal? Who are you talking to again?

1310
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 5: Sorry, Mike d Okay, let's just salute Mike d here

1311
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 5: yes being the richest person because he saw his mother's

1312
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 5: art collection for like five hundred million. Get hurricane Man,

1313
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 5: Hurricane many.

1314
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: So so I go to ask him these questions and

1315
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: we're having like a real conversation. He's like, yo, you know,

1316
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: be careful with this, be careful with that. You know

1317
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: you might want to.

1318
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 3: Check with this, check your lawyer about that. As I'm leaving,

1319
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 3: I turned a safe peace. He starts throwing ship at

1320
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 3: me like a rubber ducky.

1321
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 5: Iought he was a piece of bloney, was throwing a rubber.

1322
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 3: Ducky at me and showing all of a sudden wakes up.

1323
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 3: He throws a cheeto at me, and I'm like, and

1324
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 3: I'm like and they're laughing. So I'm like, all right,

1325
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 3: dare whatever, and I left.

1326
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: And then fast forward and Spin magazine there's this article

1327
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: and they asked the guys about third base and Mike says, yeah,

1328
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: I know. Search Like he came to my crib, I

1329
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: threw ship at him. I was like, oh, fuck you,

1330
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: it's on. So we were in the studio and I

1331
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, son's a third base, it's on. Fuck you,

1332
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: fuck y'all. I'm gonna son you, fuck y'all.

1333
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 5: And that Sam Subver took me to a spot where

1334
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 5: his barber was and like ed Rod walked in with

1335
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 5: that actress that he was with the time. Be Nice

1336
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 5: was saying that he didn't do anything. He became his thing.

1337
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 5: But I mean we were on death Gym. Well we

1338
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 5: weren't on deaf Jair. We were just on rush at

1339
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 5: the exact same time that they were still signing and everything.

1340
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 5: So that time of Leo's wedding, they were still on

1341
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 5: death Jam.

1342
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 3: That's when.

1343
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 5: That's when Lee or lew York kind of took over

1344
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 5: Grub and left, and that's when the VC.

1345
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 3: Boys left, right at the same time he went to

1346
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 3: Capitol while yeah, exactly.

1347
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 5: Well actually they went nowhere for a while and then

1348
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 5: because they had to get off the deal, like three

1349
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 5: or four years to get off the deal.

1350
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 3: It seems like when they when.

1351
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 5: They said they had tapes of Russell doing something in

1352
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 5: the back of h C, I said, he had a

1353
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 5: VHS tape, but Russell in the back of a.

1354
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 3: Bus, and that deal just got settled real quick.

1355
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 5: And the in New Music Express that's not like secret,

1356
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 5: it's like writing an interview.

1357
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 3: Was he kidding? I don't know. That's there a lot

1358
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 3: of tapes flying right, a lot of tape. I was like, QuickTime, listen,

1359
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 3: those are some mid tours. But did you guys ever.

1360
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: This questioned, Actually, when their book came out, they asked

1361
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,959
Speaker 1: me to do that section of the book. They asked

1362
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: me to do the audio and me and when I

1363
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: had I had a syndicated show called The Old School

1364
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: Show and MCA had produced a documentary called Gunning for

1365
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: the Number One Spot, which trussed about like AU basketball,

1366
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: and I interviewed him and when they Peace about a

1367
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: year before he died.

1368
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 3: So it was really cool because we got to talk

1369
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 3: about it.

1370
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: And the thing that was real funny was as we

1371
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,919
Speaker 1: were closing it out, I told him how I felt

1372
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: about him.

1373
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 3: He said thanks. I said, Now we're going to end

1374
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 3: the show with Sons of the Third Base.

1375
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: He's like, no playing because they had a silly Professor

1376
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 1: record that was their disc record and.

1377
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 3: He's like the So he was like, no, you better

1378
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 3: play that ship. So yeah, so it favorite songs to perform.

1379
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 3: Oh shit, Professor, there is a Professor the dis record?

1380
01:06:59,720 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1381
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 5: Is it?

1382
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 13: Is it like that?

1383
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 2: Like you know, Kevin Hard and these people always accused

1384
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: like there can't be one black actor at one time?

1385
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 3: Is it like that in the white world?

1386
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 13: Oh?

1387
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: Definitely when us when we were coming up, the actually,

1388
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: whether it was only today, would be one DJ do

1389
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: the worst of the label dude who gets.

1390
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 5: A coffee is in hip hop it's a chip on

1391
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 5: the shoulder because there that's.

1392
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 3: There can only be one. There can only be one.

1393
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: Only nineteen eighty nine, I would say, from nineteen eighty nine,

1394
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: damn near the nine to two thousand, it can only

1395
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: be one.

1396
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 3: Can we describe from that era? From the White Wrapper.

1397
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 5: See you gotta go back to listen, Yeah, go back

1398
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 5: when and me and Vanilla B probably the only three.

1399
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 5: Like I got a picture of Search at Prospect Park

1400
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 5: that with Paradise on stage, Rock Kim's first show where

1401
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 5: he's got a pair of tight shorts, socks all the

1402
01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 5: way up, ready to do angles.

1403
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 3: And on stage Rock Kim is before his March show

1404
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:04,959
Speaker 3: went to vine House. That's wow.

1405
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 5: But like we were, he was down with Tony d

1406
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 5: and the Bad Boys, you know Lamumba Professor X was

1407
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 5: my first manager. Like I was down with this group

1408
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 5: Sinking where we were with Dana Dane as parts. So

1409
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 5: we were like at the same time the VC boys

1410
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 5: were actually blowing up. Yeah, we were kind of like

1411
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 5: more on that underground scene and we were like me

1412
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 5: and so she used to do for twenty five bucks

1413
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 5: fifty bucks. We'd announced show, Dax said, Hotel Amazon Amazon

1414
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 5: to positive. We introduced Rob Base first Rob first show,

1415
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 5: every Rock.

1416
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 3: Who Mark Kemp was the DJ may rest In piece,

1417
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I mean like like that.

1418
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: That.

1419
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 3: We were like like people would always say, like who

1420
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 3: the fuck are those guys?

1421
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: Like we would get into everything, like like there the

1422
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: batties outside of the Red Parrot.

1423
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 3: We'd walk by past them like who the boys?

1424
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 5: We never record out and so I just like, yo,

1425
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 5: We're going to Devonport, Iowa with King's son. Next thing,

1426
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,759
Speaker 5: you know, we're on a vand yeah, I went to Devonport,

1427
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 5: Iowa King Son and his crew.

1428
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 3: And it was showing a flood zone. It's like, you know,

1429
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 3: we would just move around.

1430
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: We were always moving around because people coming up that time,

1431
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: they knew that we weren't trying to like.

1432
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 3: Appropriate the culture.

1433
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 5: You know.

1434
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: Pete had a dope ass radio show, you know what

1435
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it was dope, like they played real

1436
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: ship and you know, I had promos on Red Alert.

1437
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 3: Listen.

1438
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 5: The highlight of my career and Rich Daddy Rich's career

1439
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 5: was when Red Alert played the promo that we made

1440
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 5: for him about the radio show, and it was played

1441
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 5: in between the Public Enemy and the Jungle Brothers promo.

1442
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: We were like the promod like that when you were

1443
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: when you heard a promo, Yeah, the search is always getting.

1444
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 3: Yo. It was like you were the most famous mother fucker.

1445
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 1: And they would just say to me, I would get

1446
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: fifty dollars for people to just have me go to

1447
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: shows and get.

1448
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 3: Dished getting Wait what, I don't get this. No, It's just.

1449
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: Like I had a record called hey Boy and like

1450
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: and I like so my promo was like hey Boy,

1451
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 1: like hey Boy, and I'd be like, Yo, what a baby,

1452
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: and she's like, no, I'm not telling you.

1453
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 3: I'm about Red Alert and I'd be like, damn, Search

1454
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 3: is always getting Yeah.

1455
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 5: It was self deprecating, but at the same time, like

1456
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 5: a shout out to Red Alert because I'm God Alert

1457
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 5: me my first lawyer.

1458
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, like unbelievable. That's how me and Chris Lighting met,

1459
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 3: called Chris Lighting Rest in Peace. Yo.

1460
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: We used to carry red S crates. So at this

1461
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: time Chris had a white maximum right because he was

1462
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 1: moving going back and forth see his dad in Baltimore.

1463
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: So we moved back and forth from Baltimore right, and

1464
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: he would have REDS crates. We would go to kiss,

1465
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: he would put the record, put his crates in the maximum,

1466
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: and then we go to the Latin Quarter. Me and

1467
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: Search met at the Latin Quarter. I was LB, We're

1468
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: standing in front of Latin Quarter. This Lincoln Town car

1469
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 1: pulls up the Search pop out.

1470
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1471
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 5: He had some sort of it was either a shirt

1472
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 5: kings or like an acid washed bedazzled Yeah, yeah, I know, like.

1473
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 3: With with like a Rtstone thing.

1474
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: Was it that?

1475
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 3: So I had two I had two shirt kings. One

1476
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 3: one was was me my face that said hey boy

1477
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 3: on it that I would you know, and that come

1478
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 3: the promo. I think about that one. So, and I

1479
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 3: was going to a show I was. I was performing

1480
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 3: at night July eighty six. He was before the Flyer, right,

1481
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 3: he was Tony D.

1482
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: So Tony D got me an executive like a town car,

1483
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: like a local car from Brooklyn to bring me this show.

1484
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 5: And so me and Blake are standing in front, sears

1485
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 5: popping out. Now Blake went to high school with him.

1486
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 5: I had just heard wreck Search's record. Heard he was

1487
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 5: a white guy. I had a record on p Fine.

1488
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 3: It was like wow.

1489
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 5: I saw Melissa that he had out and I was like, man,

1490
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 5: this motherfucker beat me to it. And you know, I'm

1491
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 5: with Blake. We had this group called the Servant Generals

1492
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 5: at the time. Search comes out, Yo, Pete Searcher give

1493
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 5: him pound and he just kind of like says all

1494
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 5: right and just just walk was getting ready to go down.

1495
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't dance. It's dance battle everybody, and.

1496
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 5: This goes on the white boy on the shoulder. Years later,

1497
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 5: I get a call from Blake out of nowhere. I

1498
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 5: haven't I talked to him for years, Like yo, feet

1499
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 5: Search was just on this thing. He said that me

1500
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 5: and you were waiting outside of the l Q because

1501
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 5: we could not get in and he had to get

1502
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 5: us in. He didn't get us in. We always got in.

1503
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,560
Speaker 5: I'm like, yes, Blake, we always got in. Why is

1504
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 5: this bothering you so much? So? But that was just

1505
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 5: the type of thing where, you know, we that's the

1506
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 5: first time we ever met. And then obviously you know

1507
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 5: by the time we would go. We went to Red

1508
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 5: Aler's birthday party. Search me and Search went the Green

1509
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 5: Acres mall Red Birthday and got him. Look wait wait wait,

1510
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 5: we got to know so searchs like, yo, get the

1511
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 5: frosted mug, yep with the with the hatching on it.

1512
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 5: Happy if you've learned to have you DJ Redler gets it,

1513
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 5: wraps it up and everything.

1514
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 3: But he was fifty back then. No no, no, it's

1515
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 3: the no no no. I was telling him, O, yo,

1516
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 3: we got to get some special that he'll always remember.

1517
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: So it was his fifth anniversary fifty and I said

1518
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: fifth anniversary, Red, And I think it costs like twenty

1519
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 1: five bucks.

1520
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 3: It was a lot of It was a lot for us.

1521
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 3: So we will be going to l Q.

1522
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 5: Comes up, Reds on stage, searches like, makes a big presentation,

1523
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 5: walks up, gives it to him. But it's like, oh,

1524
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 5: thank you. Search Chris Rock, who's doing the stand up

1525
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 5: and intros, He's like.

1526
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 3: Yo, search, where'd you get that? At Greenacre Malls?

1527
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 5: Twenty five dollars? And everybody lost all and everybody out

1528
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,560
Speaker 5: you up? Yeah, but I mean it was it was

1529
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 5: a thought that kind of Red loved it. But I mean,

1530
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 5: I'm just saying that that's where, you know, Chris Rock

1531
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 5: is doing the you know, the intros again. Yeah, it's like,

1532
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 5: you know, but that's what it was.

1533
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 1: Like. It was, you know, it's really hard to explain

1534
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 1: to people that there was I have a homegirl named

1535
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,799
Speaker 1: Shelby who used to work for like Electra and everything.

1536
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 3: She's like a PR person.

1537
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:31,560
Speaker 1: She really succinctly nailed this. There's so many people culturally

1538
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: that like, like Nick Quested, who just did this amazing documentary,

1539
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: Crazy crazy, Crazy Infiltrated. It's crazy to you, Nick question,

1540
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: I say, I'm quested dance with me and Bobbido and

1541
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: Nick's fucking and Bob's apartment on fourteenth Street.

1542
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 3: We were break dancing b boy in and.

1543
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 5: He's got all the good pictures he took.

1544
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 3: He won an Academy award.

1545
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 1: Like yo, she said, Yo, we were just some kids

1546
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: bugging out. We had no idea how we were going

1547
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: to impact culture. We were just some kids bugging out.

1548
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 1: We were kids from New York. We just run the street.

1549
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: Now we run culture. Like kids that tagged they fucking

1550
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 1: curate the Louver, kids that fucking went to Columbia curate

1551
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: the Hip Hop Museum. Started out as my barber on

1552
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: ninety sixth Street, Like you know what I mean, Like

1553
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 1: he's a curator of basketball culture around the world. Like

1554
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: all of us come from this fucking era of just

1555
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 1: some kids bugging out. Norri was fucking and fucking Iraq.

1556
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: We're just some kids bugging out.

1557
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 5: And by the way, let's give it up to yes

1558
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 5: the clippery.

1559
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 3: And sub rocks.

1560
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 1: But that's you know, she really hit it, like we

1561
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: were just some kids bugging out, and we went from

1562
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: standing what we were doing to be really understanding how

1563
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 1: it can make a living for our family doing what

1564
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: we continue to do, right, you know, like and I

1565
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: and I've said this to you a million times. And

1566
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: I took him on the road and he went to

1567
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: radio stations. I mean it was so fucking disrespectful, bro,

1568
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: Like he would be on the morning show. Leave the

1569
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: morning show, the program director operations, manage to go?

1570
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 3: Does he want to do mornings? Your morning shows? Right here?

1571
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 3: Like why are you he don't want to do what?

1572
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 3: He's already in the van asking either we want to

1573
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 3: go to the next spotcast? You know what I mean?

1574
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 1: Like you could see, you could just see the elevation,

1575
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: like you could see and we were just some fucking

1576
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: kids bugging out in New York having a good time

1577
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: doing what we love to do.

1578
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 3: Like you know, I remember telling Russell when this album

1579
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 3: was gonna drop, all I cared about there were three

1580
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 3: records stores in far Rockaway and won the Rockaway Park.

1581
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: I just cared about those those stores selling out the record.

1582
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 1: And He's like, well, I care about it a whole

1583
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: lot more than you do. I want to sell a

1584
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 1: whole lot more records than you do.

1585
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 10: Trust me.

1586
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I just I need my hood just

1587
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 3: I need just sold out my hood.

1588
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,560
Speaker 2: But let me ask you, right, because it's something that

1589
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 2: I can't like. You know, I'm Puerto Rican, right, so

1590
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be prepared to to the Puerto Ricans for the.

1591
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 3: Rest of my life. Right.

1592
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 2: It does not matter like I don't care, you don't

1593
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 2: grow out of it. And it's not saying the fact

1594
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 2: that they say, oh, you're nice for a Puerto Rican.

1595
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I'm sure you get that.

1596
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like you know how they

1597
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 3: said up like, oh you're nice.

1598
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 2: But there was a whole era of like that white

1599
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 2: genre of music, right right, Beastie Boys And when does

1600
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 2: where does that start? You said in eighty nine because

1601
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 2: I believe you said something and that you said it

1602
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 2: is before that.

1603
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 5: Well they blew up in eighty six, I mean was

1604
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 5: in White Boys.

1605
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were signed a select to me, I'll tell

1606
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:55,600
Speaker 1: you at least to me again my perspective. Yes, everlast

1607
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: who was in House of Pain was part of rhyme

1608
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: syndicate signed like crack Whip. You know what I'm saying,

1609
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: Bash get drunk, yo, And while I begetting drunk with

1610
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 1: that Bible of Rose not keeping my trunk like yo, he.

1611
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 10: He was nice, wasn't he? Was he dating Carmen Electro

1612
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 10: back thenism he had her in the video zone.

1613
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 3: That was that was earlier.

1614
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this was like this was earlier, so like

1615
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 1: so then he was he was there, then we were there,

1616
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,440
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden there were like iterations

1617
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: of third base like you know what I mean, like

1618
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,480
Speaker 1: big Men on Campus got signed to select.

1619
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 3: Shuck milkhonebone the problem.

1620
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: So here's the problem with milkpone and this again my

1621
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: personal You're right, Milkphone was nice.

1622
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 3: His name wasn't nice. His name was because he was

1623
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 3: down with naughty by nature, like for somebody didn't even

1624
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 3: know that he was. So he was like that. So

1625
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 3: like Cypress Hill.

1626
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: Had the Hooligans, which is out Scott with Scott com

1627
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 1: an alchemist right, like all of a sudden, every Alchemist

1628
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: and every so every group had to have one, like

1629
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 1: every dre had m So now every black dope artist.

1630
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 3: Had to have one, like I gotta find a white

1631
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 3: boy like everybody. You think it was that thought out,

1632
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1633
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: When I when I did right after I did O C,

1634
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: after I made the OC album work life and all

1635
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 1: of that.

1636
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, fucking toms yo. That album word Life an yo.

1637
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: Anyway, So right after that we put together nonfiction, right,

1638
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 1: so it'll bill clips, a box go text. I'll never

1639
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: forget what David Geffen and Wendy Goldberg said to me.

1640
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: They said, I don't need this group to be underground.

1641
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: I need this group to get with Dre and be

1642
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 1: the next sh next.

1643
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 3: That's the pain.

1644
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, they're the hip hop Ramones. I

1645
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 1: said this in ninety six. I said, they're the hip

1646
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: hop Ramones. They're never going to need a hit record,

1647
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: and they're going to tour for the rest of their

1648
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: fucking life. And you have to figure out how to

1649
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 1: monetize the records because we're going to monetize their career.

1650
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 3: You figured that shit out.

1651
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how to fucking do what you do

1652
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: on the alternative hip hop side, but they're the hip

1653
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: hop ramones.

1654
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 3: Be clear what labels? They weren't a major, Yeah, so

1655
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 3: what we adomination?

1656
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 1: So how we did it was we had them on

1657
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: a major, but we put out records independently through fab Beats, right,

1658
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,560
Speaker 1: So that's Eli is Christ and all of that. That

1659
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 1: was still Geffen, but we were treating it like an indie,

1660
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: but Geffen was funding everything.

1661
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 10: Oh wow, that's early because that ended up happening a

1662
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 10: lot later on exactly right.

1663
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 1: That was the first time that a major label allowed

1664
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 1: an incubator program to happen. And thirty years later, thank goodness,

1665
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: Nonfiction and is still touring and they are the Ramones

1666
01:20:59,040 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: of hip.

1667
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 3: Hop, like they will tour forever. Was company floorredy Out, No,

1668
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 3: they came after.

1669
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 2: So they didn't let's name Uh then okay, didn't eminem

1670
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 2: have like, but we've got bubble sparks.

1671
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 3: That's not forget bubble later?

1672
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right, because like with N Too Deep, like

1673
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 1: N Too Deep, how to pretend not to be Latin

1674
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: because you know, lighter shade around, they had to pretend

1675
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: not to be Latino because there was no category.

1676
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 10: If you're a kid frost, you're told, oh my god,

1677
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 10: your head would explode, ruthless.

1678
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 3: You like you know what I'm saying. I I met.

1679
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 1: I had a group and I hope they're watching. They

1680
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: were from South America called they had a record Sounds

1681
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: that they somebody else Yo.

1682
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 3: This record is.

1683
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 1: Called WAW And all that record was was the noise

1684
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: that the pistol made in the club. Your head ducks down.

1685
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: In Spanish, they said the head ducks down because the pistols.

1686
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: I was, did you get these motherfucker's a deal to

1687
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: save my life? I couldn't get him a deal to say,

1688
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 1: but see if they I still listen to the ship

1689
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 1: to this day.

1690
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 3: That record was fire.

1691
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 5: I had this kick Cage who in his demo for

1692
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 5: Faith Newman said he was going to catch a Sony

1693
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 5: exactly hit the thought off in his.

1694
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 3: Chest, you know, so like he was not getting signed.

1695
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 3: He was kind of like and he had bet for Eminem.

1696
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 3: I guess they bad a little bit, but he was

1697
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 3: kind of like.

1698
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 5: A version of Eminem before Eminem could be, you know,

1699
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 5: decipher them with dre You know.

1700
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 3: Here's a trivia question because hold, let me say something.

1701
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 3: It seems like.

1702
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 2: This is obviously me outside looking at the inside of

1703
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 2: looking out, But it seems like once that person is

1704
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 2: at the top, it's like all of they go at

1705
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 2: the top like they want to they want an Eminem spot.

1706
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 2: Like I remember one year it was I felt like Eminem.

1707
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 2: It felt like whoever got hot like Eminem had to

1708
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 2: like shut them down. But it felt like they were

1709
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 2: attacking it. No, I mean, but them was attacking He said, what,

1710
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 2: I'm nicer than Pete. I'm on a search across the

1711
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 2: milk bone like yo, he was. He was going after everybody. Yeah,

1712
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 2: he was going after everybody.

1713
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: But the point I was just going to say to

1714
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: you was like, you're talking about white rappers, right, who

1715
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: is the white who's the only white rapper to do

1716
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 1: a record with Biggie M?

1717
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 3: But not a lot?

1718
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, not m M did a

1719
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: record post who's the only white rapper to do a

1720
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: record with Biggie?

1721
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 3: He's supposed to be googling like Texas text didn't mentioned

1722
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 3: did he mention? The universe is not the answer You're

1723
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 3: going to say, it's you.

1724
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not gonna say so. The answer is

1725
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:49,919
Speaker 1: already the rugged man. Oh already already had.

1726
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 3: Biggie in the studio. So so, and I say, and

1727
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 3: I say it, but I say that to.

1728
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 1: Say, there was like this incredible movement for about two

1729
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 1: years between ninety four ninety six were all these underground

1730
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:03,839
Speaker 1: mcs eclips.

1731
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:05,879
Speaker 3: You remember this too, Like ninety four ninety.

1732
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 1: Six, there was all these really dope white MC's that

1733
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: people were like, yo, this kid's well.

1734
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 10: The Underground was perfect for that because it didn't discriminate.

1735
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:17,759
Speaker 10: It's just you're just dope. You're dope.

1736
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 3: And Big Hot, Big was hot and he did.

1737
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: This record with fucking It and it was perfect because

1738
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: Ra was crazy out his mind.

1739
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 3: Fucking Biggie was on that shit. It was gonna go

1740
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 3: back listen to that.

1741
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, man, shit is crazy. So the point is,

1742
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 1: So the point is there was this period of time

1743
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 1: and how it kind of went left, not to his demid,

1744
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: not to his fault, but M became a rocket.

1745
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 3: Shit wow, because he became so much that it is too.

1746
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: Much my name is And everybody's like, oh, that's the theorem.

1747
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:56,799
Speaker 1: That's the theory. Everything else goes to fat beats, everything

1748
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: else goes indie and if we don't find that, then

1749
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 1: it's not worth making.

1750
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,879
Speaker 5: And that's, by the way, the BC Boys were differently earlier.

1751
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 10: Even though M comes from that because he comes through

1752
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 10: the fat Beat, he comes through all of that.

1753
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 3: Game Bad verse E Bolm and Royce like you know

1754
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 3: what I mean album like it was that that trajectory

1755
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 3: that Hi, my Name is and it was over and.

1756
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 10: Dre because Dre is the obvious the formula that takes.

1757
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 3: It to that level. Obviously obviously, So you know, and

1758
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 3: there was that, and then you look at to like

1759
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 3: and then really think about it. Ninety eight, ninety nine,

1760
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 3: two thousand.

1761
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: Name of White MC that made that impact Besize M

1762
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, two thousand and two, Bubbles Fight.

1763
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,959
Speaker 3: Bubble had one record nineteen ninety seven, ninety.

1764
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: Bubble lasted like a couple of albums. Yeah, I mean,

1765
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 1: but that one record was any six ninety six, ninety seven,

1766
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: ninety eight Bubba Arrow for Timberland.

1767
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 2: I think Bubbles like more two thousand, yeah, but more

1768
01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 2: like two thousand yea fe so, but two thousand and one,

1769
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 2: two thousand and two, two thousand and three, until you

1770
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 2: get to like Yellow w War one record.

1771
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 1: Two thousand and five, two thousand and six, I'm still

1772
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 1: going by the WAK two.

1773
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 3: Thousand and seven.

1774
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: If it wasn't until Action Bronson actually in two thousand

1775
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: and nine, two thousand and eight, wow, that you started

1776
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: to have, oh, maybe there can be more than one,

1777
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,520
Speaker 1: maybe they can be Oh here comes Jack Carlow.

1778
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 3: Out of Kentucky.

1779
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 1: Were fucking putting out records in twenty twelve, which is

1780
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: the changing of the way that music is being The

1781
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 1: gatekeepers are now gone consumed, right, There's no more gatekeepers

1782
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 1: because then you have Blogger era going into this era

1783
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: going into this era, and SoundCloud or whatever, strength and

1784
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 1: Mac Miller if Maxim Miller's Mac Killer.

1785
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1786
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 1: So again, the white rapper, the plight of the white

1787
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: rapper was the gatekeeper yep, right, and the black co

1788
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: sign and then you eliminate all of that just by

1789
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 1: making music. Who's this girl now, Georgiana. She's killing the

1790
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:09,879
Speaker 1: fucking internet, right, but the mic from Indie, Yeah, Michigan City, Indiana,

1791
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: She's fucking killing them.

1792
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 3: She's fucking killing them. Right.

1793
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: But we're in a period of time now where we're

1794
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 1: fifty years plus and there's no generational gap for these kids.

1795
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,919
Speaker 1: I look at an artist like Body James, right, Body's

1796
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:25,640
Speaker 1: killing them right now?

1797
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 3: Does a record with Harry Fraud? No one cares? Right.

1798
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: Producers is different, like you could be a white producer

1799
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: and be dope. It's got storage, right, right, Alchemist, Yes,

1800
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 1: congratulations to him too. Out of the year, you know

1801
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1802
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 3: For the year like forever. But there's always been Graham

1803
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 3: Jones shout out to them for sure.

1804
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's always been this gatekeeper level that's like, Okay,

1805
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: this is where you can be. You can be a spectator,

1806
01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 1: but not a participated And the one thing that the

1807
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 1: Internet did the good thing, was.

1808
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 3: It allowed the gatekeepers to fall back.

1809
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it allows a lot of great music

1810
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: to come out, because that's a whole other different story,

1811
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: but at least it allows artists to be artists and

1812
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: then you make up the decision whether they're dope or not.

1813
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 10: I think what the Internet did is it took away

1814
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 10: the divisions between the different underground scenes.

1815
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 3: Because in the underground scene, if you're dope, you're dope.

1816
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 3: That's it.

1817
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 10: That's all it mattered. If you're whack, you whack. And

1818
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:32,560
Speaker 10: it took away the Internet is like, Okay, now we

1819
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 10: can see these different underground scenes and we can connect

1820
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 10: it in its one big underground scene.

1821
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: No. I Love, I Love and the A Ball and

1822
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: mjg shit when he played Glorilla and gave her fucking

1823
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 1: flowers and said she really represents Memphis the right way,

1824
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 1: right right, because that's ultimately what I want, like for

1825
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: Far Rockaway, Keene Streets represents Rockaway the right way. Moulah

1826
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,719
Speaker 1: represents Rockaway the right way. Like I want the artists

1827
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 1: that come from my hood, I want them to represent

1828
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: my hood the right way. You know what I'm saying.

1829
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 1: And there's our does that do that in every in

1830
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 1: every hood and every genre that it doesn't matter what

1831
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,480
Speaker 1: kind of music, you just want to make sure they represent.

1832
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 3: Your hood the right way.

1833
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 5: At the Hip Hop Museum, we're trying to represent everything

1834
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 5: that you just mentioned, and think about all the different artists,

1835
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 5: all the different platforms. It's it's just so hard to

1836
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 5: bring under one roof and try to represent it all properly, right,

1837
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:26,440
Speaker 5: It's it's it's insane. Well, it's almost important.

1838
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 10: Time with slimes A being sane ready control you gotta know,

1839
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 10: we gotta bring that rich Okay, let's go.

1840
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,879
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a designated drink, a drink for want.

1841
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 10: Set them up, you gotta okay, we'll get a new one.

1842
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 10: Set them up with a mic uh as well? Want

1843
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 10: me to move down? No, he's over there. You gott

1844
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 10: explain them the game so they know, well Search knows

1845
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:04,719
Speaker 10: the game, all right, So these are the rules, fellas.

1846
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 10: We're gonna give you two choices. You pick one, we

1847
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 10: don't drink. If you say both of neither, which is

1848
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 10: the PC answer, then everybody drinks.

1849
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 5: At the tape.

1850
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 3: Obviously you have a designated drinker.

1851
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 10: The real reason for this game is not to pin

1852
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 10: anybody against each other, to bring up stories about anybody

1853
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 10: we mentioned. Let's talk about history, give us some good stories.

1854
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,480
Speaker 10: Let's talk about people. You know what I'm saying and places.

1855
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 5: Cool?

1856
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 10: You're ready, you all ready? We got the shots. Ready,

1857
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 10: we gotta get we gotta get everything you need to.

1858
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 10: This guy's ready to pop a question, all right, talking

1859
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 10: to you?

1860
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 3: No, no, I'll ask one.

1861
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 1: So since we did verses, let's not do versus. Let's

1862
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 1: do concerts. Who would you want to see third Base

1863
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 1: on the road.

1864
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 3: With nice and smooth public enemy? I like, I like nicest.

1865
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 3: These are all good answers. By the way, there is

1866
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 3: no wrong answer. I was just candy. It's all legend

1867
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 3: of the classics.

1868
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 5: We were thinking that boy to squash beef tour all

1869
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 5: the all the groups.

1870
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 3: Yo, that's crazy. Let me tell you you.

1871
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 1: Know what's crazy though, And I will say this after no, no, no, no,

1872
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: they have beef internally after the word hit Dress called

1873
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: me on Monday and said, Joe, me and Law made peace. Wow,

1874
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 1: he said, me and Law made peace. And like and

1875
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,640
Speaker 1: there's like all of these like I hear rumblings that

1876
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 1: Everlast is talking to fucking Danny boy again, and this

1877
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: one's talking to this Beef Well. I mean, I don't know,

1878
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,679
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm just here, like even like word

1879
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: is Pete rock and Seale smooth? Like I again, I

1880
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: don't know, but I know that like Dress called me

1881
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: and said, Joe, we made peace.

1882
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,560
Speaker 10: If you and Pete could do it, we can do

1883
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 10: You know what, I'd like to see you guys with

1884
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 10: Hammer on tour.

1885
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:00,759
Speaker 3: That was that was about those boys.

1886
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 1: No, I mean, you know, honestly, like I said, man,

1887
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 1: I would love to make amends with that man. You

1888
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I think is a super legend.

1889
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 1: To be honest, I think the Beef squads workers. You

1890
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: still have totally different algorithms.

1891
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 3: I don't believe. I think that you could work. I

1892
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 3: think I don't think we have the same thing. I

1893
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 3: think it could work, man, I think it could work.

1894
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 3: I mean I think a lot of shit could work.

1895
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 3: I like to do a reality already. Yes, let me

1896
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 3: get my mama. Juan already.

1897
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 5: Can we give a toast to the best show d

1898
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:34,839
Speaker 5: J in history?

1899
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 3: Daddy Original?

1900
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, Yeah, you know all right nas or ll nos Yeah,

1901
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 10: Jay z or Big Daddy Kane, Big Daddy Big Daddy Cane.

1902
01:32:58,360 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 10: If one of y'all is off, then we're all drinking.

1903
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 10: That's the way we're doing it. Yeah, I gotta be

1904
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 10: on the same. No disrespect, I mean.

1905
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 1: No disrespect to Jay, But bottom line is there's no

1906
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 1: Jay without King.

1907
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, and remember any stories because we just went I

1908
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 10: mean we all we all remember any day being on

1909
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 10: the road with Can, like we all remember, you know that.

1910
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 3: Was his crew.

1911
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 10: Any standout story seeing him on the road.

1912
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 1: No, I mean I just remember, like we all, we

1913
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: would all try to find the waves, lose a lot

1914
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 1: of money to Can. Yeah, I lost a lot of

1915
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 1: money plans dice. But I remember us always trying to

1916
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:35,560
Speaker 1: find red lobsters wherever we wanted to go.

1917
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 3: We'd always try to find a red lobster. Immediately made

1918
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:41,640
Speaker 3: me hungry. Yeah. In fact, I heard we're going to

1919
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 3: like Jerobi's restaurant after.

1920
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 5: This, So.

1921
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 1: Okay yoah o day in and day or slick Wig

1922
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 1: you skipped one Bro you get it? Uh, And they

1923
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 1: were in the same group. You know, Yeah, I heard

1924
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 1: Cano Crew. So here's the here's a story here, here,

1925
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 1: here's a story.

1926
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 13: Right.

1927
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 1: So when I was growing up in Redfern, we would

1928
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: listen to these two set tapes fourth and fifth Generation

1929
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 1: get set tapes of parties in Prospect. I used to

1930
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 1: love those because there was always a group called the

1931
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 1: Kno Crew. I couldn't really hear what they said because

1932
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 1: there was fourth fifth Generation, so that the time it

1933
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 1: got to Far Rockaway, it sounded like the teacher and

1934
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 1: fucking peanuts.

1935
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 3: So it's like.

1936
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 1: But they sounded nice. That's all I knew is they

1937
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 1: had British accents. Sounded nice, British accents. Yeah, and they

1938
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 1: were like, well Ricky d. It wasn't like rick here's

1939
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 1: Ricky d Wow.

1940
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, they're dope.

1941
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,560
Speaker 1: So I get into this high school called Music and

1942
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 1: Art right, and it's the first day of orientation. I

1943
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 1: take the A train from Far Rockaway to one hundred

1944
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:56,640
Speaker 1: and thirty fifth in Convent, go to school, go to

1945
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 1: the lunch room for orientation and there's these for do

1946
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 1: roots in Kangos, the Tigra Permanent Crease Lee's and Fucking

1947
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 1: Walli's and they're doing Indian Girl, and all the freshman

1948
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,679
Speaker 1: guys had like a senior that took you around.

1949
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 3: The guy who took me around was named Steve Bosco

1950
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 3: May Rest in Peace.

1951
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to impress him because I'm in this

1952
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 1: white kid with a jew fro and I'm from Far

1953
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 1: Rockaway and how am I going to notice? So Steve,

1954
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 1: it's the Caango Crew. They're doing Hill Bully Girl. He goes, now, motherfucker,

1955
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 1: that is the Cago Crew. And it was like the

1956
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:32,679
Speaker 1: first time I ever saw a rock star on my life.

1957
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 1: It was Ricky d Lance, Romance Omega and Dana Dane

1958
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 1: Wow Wow so. And the one skit that they started

1959
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 1: doing in high school in nineteen eighty was a skit

1960
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 1: called Lottie Dottie. We like to party, we don't cause trouble,

1961
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:50,600
Speaker 1: we don't bother nobody. There was no record, It was

1962
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 1: just their routine and when we rock upon a mic,

1963
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: we rock and all they would go right, and it

1964
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 1: was a.

1965
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 3: Skit that they would do at parties. Yo.

1966
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: I bit that whole shit. I would at first girls

1967
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 1: in Far Rockaway, like you want to hear.

1968
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 3: My rhym lotty dotty relaxable. We don't go in trouble,

1969
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:13,560
Speaker 3: we don't right. So for me and fucking Dana, I

1970
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:15,639
Speaker 3: know you watching this, and I love you Dana because

1971
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 3: you're my man. I gotta go with rick. I gotta

1972
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 3: go Ricky Dean.

1973
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 1: Because because for me as much as I love Cinder Fella, Dana,

1974
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 1: Dane and and Clark obviously, like that's Great Adventures album.

1975
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 1: It's crazy, that's crazy. It's crazy. Part of storytelling that

1976
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 1: he did with Okay, this is crazy, like he still

1977
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: got bars So and Dana, I love you know I

1978
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 1: love you Dana.

1979
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 5: So I got a personally first show I ever did

1980
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 5: with the first group. I was in SyncE quit Na

1981
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 5: and we open up for Dana. When I met Daddy

1982
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 5: Richard was through Clark and when I knew Clark Clark

1983
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 5: was Dana, Dane and Jesse Rest of Peace Clark Kent.

1984
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,560
Speaker 5: If Clark Kent died in eight nineteen eighty eight or

1985
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 5: eighty nine, he be just as big a legend as

1986
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 5: he was now, just because in my eyes, he was

1987
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,640
Speaker 5: day to day's DJ going on toward Dana day his

1988
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 5: connection to me and rich.

1989
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 3: And when so basically drink going on, basically.

1990
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 5: And the other crazy thing is when I went to

1991
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 5: Clark's memorial service, which was amazing. I mean everyone like

1992
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 5: from Scratch to Stretched Andrew Martinez, everybody incredible. I walked

1993
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 5: past the casket, it was packed. The only seat that

1994
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 5: was open was the seat next to Dana that I

1995
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,600
Speaker 5: go sit next to Dana, and everyone's mentioning Clark's accolades.

1996
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:43,640
Speaker 5: And it wasn't until Scratch talked about when Clark was

1997
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 5: on soul train with Dana and like that to me,

1998
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 5: like when I saw that soul train, it was so

1999
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 5: I have to say, Danna, Dan, all.

2000
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 1: Right, well go ahead Dana and Clark. Ye nah, this

2001
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 1: is solid ark Man. Absolutely yeah. I still got Trill Burgers.

2002
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 3: I wasn't ready for that. I heard it was good.

2003
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 3: It's fantastic. Turkey Burger, Veggie Burger too, and the ship

2004
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 3: off to Veggie Burger.

2005
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:12,679
Speaker 2: That's he started with the Veggie Burger, cleaned the grill,

2006
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 2: then the Turkey Burger clean the grill.

2007
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 3: And didn't clean it every time.

2008
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, switch the

2009
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 2: grill rat there you know what I mean, who's next?

2010
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 5: That's the apologies to rick Man because they loan sleeep

2011
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 5: bricks are thrown to the hip hop really, so yeah,

2012
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 5: that's dope.

2013
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 1: That's what That's what I want to shout out to. Salaman,

2014
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 1: shout out my guy, my guy, kre Rest one or

2015
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 1: rock Him. Oh it's easy, rock Him. I love K

2016
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. Rock Him is the greatest set

2017
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 1: of all time period. And a conversation rock Him, Okay,

2018
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 1: I want he got you definitely?

2019
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, okay, Premore, Pete rock Oh, Primo, it's easy.

2020
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 3: These are really these are like layups. I mean maybe

2021
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 3: not for everybody. See like he's hesitating. Well he's like, well,

2022
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:10,679
Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, what happened.

2023
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:14,400
Speaker 5: I used to catch Premo out there in my building.

2024
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 5: He was seeing a young lady on my flight. Used

2025
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 5: to go walk my dog like three in the morning,

2026
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 5: and I'd be like, oh, for me, Premiere is something elevator.

2027
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 5: So we had a lot of talks. And when I

2028
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 5: had a couple of groups, this kid Cage who Cage, Yeah,

2029
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 5: Cage could not I have Premiere do a whole Premiere

2030
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 5: beats cag you broke Yeah, Me and my beat Cage

2031
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 5: corigonally and uh, Premiere made a whole tape of Premiere

2032
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:45,720
Speaker 5: beats like incredible, and Cage was like nah, nah, he

2033
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 5: wanted more, So I have to give it to Premiere.

2034
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 3: Oh you'll disagree.

2035
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:55,160
Speaker 10: Agree, they agreed, They agreed, agreed. I agree, Uh, BC

2036
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:56,480
Speaker 10: boys are fat boys.

2037
01:39:57,080 --> 01:39:57,599
Speaker 3: Fat boys.

2038
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 5: I got a picture of Search at a fat boy

2039
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 5: show in nineteen eighty five at Roseland and you send

2040
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 5: it to you could put it on the screen when you.

2041
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 5: Search has said that he never kissed a white girl.

2042
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:17,599
Speaker 5: And he's there with a white girl who sang no hop,

2043
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 5: who sang the hawk on it rerecord, Melissa, she doesn't sing.

2044
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 3: This girl was on Z one her know this twist.

2045
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 3: She told this story.

2046
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 5: My boy Chris Money here has that tape somewhere buried

2047
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 5: in his computer. She she says she did no says

2048
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 5: she's telling the hook.

2049
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 3: Really, she says she did a lot of things.

2050
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 5: She did.

2051
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 3: I know, I don't remember that, but I don't know.

2052
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 3: I think she might have been Italian. That don't count

2053
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 3: rights with the money. I think she's Sillian. Remember, I'll say,

2054
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 3: fat boy. They agreed again.

2055
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, biggie A big pun all three y'all please, big

2056
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 10: biggie resting piece to both of those legends. Man, mhm,

2057
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 10: I hate to disagree.

2058
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 1: Lyrics, lyrics, lyrically, whatever you're fun. I love big don't

2059
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 1: get me wrong. I love Big Pun was a monster

2060
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,639
Speaker 1: with them Bars. Pun was a monster with them Bars.

2061
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 1: That's fuck both. Yeah, that's horrible.

2062
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 10: Any stories with Bigger Pun anybody?

2063
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 1: I mean, the only story I have two stories for

2064
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: both of them, then they're quick. I was doing radio

2065
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 1: promotion at the time. I was at the beat with

2066
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 1: tecond Sway. I had OC with me and Craig k

2067
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 1: Mac and Biggie were on the Big Mac for.

2068
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 2: Ye and one of the best promo items is ever ever.

2069
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 1: I walk in walk into Sway in Tech and I

2070
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 1: got old with me and Biggot already said like Time's

2071
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 1: Up was his favorite ship, Like that was his ship.

2072
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 3: And we walk in.

2073
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 1: And they just they just go into commercial break and

2074
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: was about to come in and BIG's about to leave,

2075
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 1: and out of nowhere, he just says to me, Oh,

2076
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,640
Speaker 1: He's like, sirch, I gotta apologize to you now.

2077
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 3: Man, I'm just manic depressive right now. I don't feel

2078
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 3: like fucking with you. Who said this to you? Like

2079
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 3: out of left field? Like I was like yo, big

2080
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 3: what pretty Yeah.

2081
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 1: But then but then the funny part was when we

2082
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 1: went outside, there was a DJ that was on the

2083
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:54,680
Speaker 1: beat and his thing he was a midday DJ, and

2084
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 1: the thing was his promo was that celebrity artists would

2085
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,120
Speaker 1: leave a message on his phone, like that was his thing,

2086
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 1: like hey, you know, blah blah blah, it's you know shy,

2087
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 1: you know, hey we're coming for the two and two.

2088
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. So Craig does whatever he does, like, hey,

2089
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 3: blah blah Blah's Craig Mac.

2090
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 1: You know, I got that flavor year coming down and

2091
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 1: I'll see you at two fifteen level. It comes out

2092
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:19,719
Speaker 1: and Craig says, you're big, you gotta do these promos.

2093
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 1: He's kind of promos, he said. And the guy says, yo,

2094
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 1: you know it's leaving a message on my answering machine.

2095
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:27,600
Speaker 1: He goes, I ain't your bitch. I don't leaven no

2096
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 1: fucking message. And he's like, no, no, no, big, you

2097
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He goes, I don't done saying shit.

2098
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 10: Car That was it.

2099
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 1: And the other pun, the pun story was like every

2100
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:42,840
Speaker 1: time I ran in a pun, he oh, well, first

2101
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 1: of all, he was always happy. Yes, that was a

2102
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 1: b He always had people around him that made him happy.

2103
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 1: And he always had like three or four chicks around

2104
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,560
Speaker 1: him that were just like so happy to be in

2105
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 1: his circle, and he would always make.

2106
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:02,800
Speaker 3: Them feel good. It wasn't even like something he had

2107
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:05,720
Speaker 3: to try. He just had this charm. He had this

2108
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 3: amazing like loving spirit. And that's what I always remembered

2109
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 3: about Punty. Oh yeah, and my tattoo by the way,

2110
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 3: you know I have a tattoo.

2111
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:20,800
Speaker 1: And the guy who did Pun's hands celebrity tattoo artists

2112
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:22,519
Speaker 1: on Instagram, he did my tattoo.

2113
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 3: Oh okay.

2114
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 5: You know at the Hip Hop Museum, we had this

2115
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 5: TV show Me and Paradise called Hip Hop Treasures, and

2116
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 5: Cipher Sounds was on the show with us. We would

2117
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 5: send him out to send him out to Fat Joe's

2118
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:38,040
Speaker 5: and Joe had the jersey from the Trinidad fight when

2119
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 5: they came out, so just looking like an iconic moment

2120
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 5: that you know could not be top like.

2121
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love Big.

2122
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 1: I love Big, And I know there's always this argument

2123
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 1: like Big should be in people's top fives and this

2124
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 1: and that, like Tove, but not of people, but for me, personally.

2125
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 1: Again my perspective, there's like certain artists that didn't have

2126
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 1: enough time to make enough body of work.

2127
01:44:58,680 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 3: Pun and Big of both that.

2128
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, but both made crazy crazy the

2129
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:09,919
Speaker 2: B Street or Crush.

2130
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 1: Groove, Brush Groove shout out to Style and Yellow, Yeah,

2131
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 1: because the thing is they both kind of whack. Now

2132
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 1: if you watch them, they're both like.

2133
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 3: But that's a lot of old movies though. Know it's great.

2134
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 3: It's great. You gotta smoke a joint and get into

2135
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 3: old school mood and it gets better with time. It's like,

2136
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 3: why joint, smoke physical joint? You joint? Yeah, beach culture.

2137
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2138
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 1: The Last Dragon the other day last year. I was like,

2139
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 1: because now you know that they come who was sucked up?

2140
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 3: Like like like I didn't know. I thought they were

2141
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 3: professionals back then. You look at that the Last Dragon,

2142
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 3: like that screw Crew Crush. All right, this is group.

2143
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 10: It's gonna be tough for you guys, oh man, god.

2144
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:22,440
Speaker 3: One, well for me, I mean mm, I mean, JAMJ

2145
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 3: is the reason I'm on.

2146
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 1: Like, jam Master J found me in Tony D's basement

2147
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 1: the first rom I ever said wow, you know, and

2148
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 1: he leaned back and he was like this, and he went, fuck,

2149
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 1: if white boys start ramming like that, we're finished.

2150
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 3: Yo, I need to take you on the road, and

2151
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 3: like that's verbating him what he said, No, I went down.

2152
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 1: I went, So I went. I I harassed ground vis

2153
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 1: it Tony d for six months. I had given up

2154
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 1: a four year scholarship to go to college. I told

2155
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 1: my mother I wanted to be a rapper and she's like,

2156
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 1: what do you mean?

2157
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 5: You know?

2158
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 3: Rap gifts at sears?

2159
01:46:56,640 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 1: Like right, I'm like no, no, it's as ain't called

2160
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 1: hip hop and it's this And she asked me when

2161
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 1: my plan was six months. I'm harassing. The dude finally

2162
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 1: picks up the call, says, yeah, coming.

2163
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:09,679
Speaker 5: To the house.

2164
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 3: It's pouring, it's April pouring, ring.

2165
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 1: It's in Corny Island, Seagate dark and there's this beautiful

2166
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 1: brownstone that got a green Jaguar sitting on Dayton's X seven.

2167
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 3: It got a fucking devil on day ends, got all

2168
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:27,719
Speaker 3: these flock carts.

2169
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm with my man Bill and like, Bill, come inside

2170
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 1: with me. He's like, I'm like, where are you gonna?

2171
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:40,759
Speaker 1: Let me go in by myself? Knocking the door opens

2172
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 1: the door, Tony goes who you, I said, an MC

2173
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:47,760
Speaker 1: search the fuck out of here. You the guy's been

2174
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 1: calling me, yep, come in.

2175
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 3: Walk through the walk through. The hallway opens up into

2176
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:55,600
Speaker 3: this living room where the kitchen was.

2177
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 1: Grand Wizard Tony D's man, Lord True from the Eternal

2178
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 1: Forces right there, Grand Master D from Houdini, jam Master

2179
01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 1: Jay Wow, right there, and Tony He's like, let's go

2180
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:12,640
Speaker 1: in the basement. I had this little gold chain on

2181
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 1: with this little gold watch that my father gave me

2182
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 1: for my Ba Mitza, and I'm going down the stairs

2183
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:20,560
Speaker 1: and all I'm thinking about is, damn, I'm about to

2184
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 1: get robbed by three of the Great Deeper.

2185
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 3: Like I'm literally like, yo, I'm.

2186
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 1: About to get snuffed. Like it's pitch dark. Turns on

2187
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 1: a light, light light, Bubba's doing this. There's in a

2188
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 1: Kai twelve hundred and a booth and he sits me

2189
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 1: in a seat like this, and Jay's there, Grand Master

2190
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 1: D's there, Lord Chreue's there.

2191
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 3: And Tony D's behind me and he goes rack.

2192
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 1: I was like, so you think you're right, Well, got

2193
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 1: a sobo chance at hell to catch MC search because

2194
01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 1: I'll ring your bell, assume.

2195
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:52,360
Speaker 3: You withs out of my and I'm going hard for

2196
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:58,639
Speaker 3: two minutes and Jay lean back and right fucking white

2197
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:00,360
Speaker 3: boys start rhyming like that, I'm finish, so I need

2198
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 3: to take you on.

2199
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 1: And the next day took me to Rochester, New York

2200
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 1: with Davy DMX opened and that was my career.

2201
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 3: Wrote records for Houdini. And yeah, so I mean I

2202
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 3: love Clark, but.

2203
01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:16,960
Speaker 5: On my side conversely, I used to go to Clark

2204
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 5: Kent's crib on Union badging him to make break taste

2205
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 5: for me to rhyme over begging him. He's already dated

2206
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:25,640
Speaker 5: Dan's DJ. I was trying to get him to be

2207
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 5: my DJ, and he's putting up with me, and why

2208
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 5: is he putting up with you? He's putting Is there

2209
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 5: a reason? I mean, Danes, he was walking hot fire?

2210
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 5: Why are you putting up with him?

2211
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:39,479
Speaker 3: Rhyme for him? Him?

2212
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 5: And also my boy Blake introduced us, and you know

2213
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 5: I had the radio show. Okay, the radio show came up.

2214
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 5: I was like, yo, Clark, I go let you. You

2215
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 5: could go off for two hours.

2216
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 3: Vanilla B and Dana we all went to high school.

2217
01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:56,000
Speaker 5: Exactly, Okay, so like the way we got introduced.

2218
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 3: But he was familiar everything just came. The kicker is.

2219
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 5: If it wasn't for Clark, that man right there, Richie

2220
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 5: rich would not have been third bases.

2221
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 3: DJ would not know? How did that happen to put

2222
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 3: us on?

2223
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 1: This is so I brought two of the worst DJs

2224
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 1: in the history of DJs into this group.

2225
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 3: Let's just pull it up. Can I just wait? Let

2226
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 3: me just pull it this.

2227
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 1: I brought two of the worst fucking DJs in the

2228
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 1: history of DJs to this group. I will claim, like

2229
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:23,800
Speaker 1: I said, I would take responsibility. One kid named DJ

2230
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 1: Word and another kid named DJ White Knight.

2231
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:29,680
Speaker 10: I hope they're not DJ anymore because you just and

2232
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 10: both White Knight was nice, man.

2233
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 3: He is not.

2234
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:36,120
Speaker 1: No, no, what what?

2235
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 3: So what happened with White Night? So here's for a

2236
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:42,880
Speaker 3: white kid from the backwoods? Attendant? So here's the ship.

2237
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 3: So this this I'm gonna tell you.

2238
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 5: I'm going I'm going to tell you so Search is like, Yo,

2239
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:50,640
Speaker 5: I'm going to see MC holiday.

2240
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:52,760
Speaker 3: Right, No, that's not what it was, So whould you go? No, No,

2241
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 3: I was going to see him, but not for what

2242
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:56,599
Speaker 3: you think I was going to see him.

2243
01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 5: But either way, Search showed up back in New York

2244
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 5: with this kid DJ not Yo Pete.

2245
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 3: I found out DJ Yo.

2246
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:06,920
Speaker 5: If I'm looking at this kid did not know what

2247
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:10,840
Speaker 5: a chicken cutlet was. No you, We asked him, how

2248
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 5: do you want your burger at Chung King? He said,

2249
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 5: what are you talking about? What are you talking about?

2250
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:17,559
Speaker 5: He was like, oh, we don't do that.

2251
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:20,680
Speaker 3: About his food choices? What's going on here?

2252
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 5: He was just he was just like he was.

2253
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 3: He was backwards. But could he spend? Could he he

2254
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 3: he did a lot of cuts on the captain. So

2255
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 3: he wasn't a terrible DJ. No, he was a terrible

2256
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:34,200
Speaker 3: DJ because he got Okay.

2257
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 1: So you have to you have to meet and this

2258
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 1: is again my perspective, right, you have to capture the

2259
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:44,679
Speaker 1: moment anytime. This man DJ, he captured the moment period

2260
01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 1: one of the craziest moments.

2261
01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 3: And here's your comparing these DJs to the greatest.

2262
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:51,680
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, I'm just saying, but the point is,

2263
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 1: like you have to still capture the moment. There was

2264
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:55,800
Speaker 1: a moment in our senior hall when he was doing

2265
01:51:55,880 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 1: sitting at home run in our senior hall, are Sinial

2266
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 1: leaned on the turntable to watch.

2267
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 3: Just motherfucker fans lifts the needles.

2268
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 1: So it doesn't drop, puts it down, brings it back

2269
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 1: like nothing happened. Like, I'm sorry, technical motherfuckers. You don't

2270
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:18,519
Speaker 1: know how fucking hard that was, because the records should

2271
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 1: have skipped sitting in that home watching home.

2272
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:28,639
Speaker 3: Wait, you anticipated our sinial hitting the table. Yeah.

2273
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 15: The first thing is like that was the first time

2274
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 15: I ever pulled that routine off clean. I never pulled

2275
01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:40,200
Speaker 15: it off clean, even when I was practicing it at home. So,

2276
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:42,760
Speaker 15: I mean, he stood on the horizon and whatnot, and

2277
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:45,320
Speaker 15: I thought it was work.

2278
01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 5: Yo.

2279
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 1: So he and here, if you watch it, it's like

2280
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 1: it's our senial hole and then and so you see

2281
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 1: the needle and he's.

2282
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

2283
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:59,639
Speaker 1: So it's about capturing the moment. So I had White

2284
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 1: Knight in the Battle for Supremacy. Why one caption the

2285
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:07,600
Speaker 1: moment this kid bricked like brick to the point he

2286
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 1: got booed, then wouldn't leave my crib, wouldn't come outside,

2287
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 1: called his mother how to pick.

2288
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 3: The DJ get booed, and that that part is get

2289
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 3: a battle, DJ battle, then he'll leave the crib. And

2290
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 3: then his mother came to pick him up. Sounds about right.

2291
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 1: So and I shouldn't have never looked outside of New

2292
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 1: York anyway. We had the greatest DJs in the world

2293
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 1: New York.

2294
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:36,879
Speaker 3: So he was from Tennessee.

2295
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 5: So Clark is DJ and we have the Wreck the

2296
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:43,720
Speaker 5: Radio show together. We could do this show Tuesday night

2297
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 5: is w k c R, and we started one hour.

2298
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 5: We're up to three hours a night. Then Clark's like, yo,

2299
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 5: I gotta go out with Dana and he's like, YO,

2300
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,639
Speaker 5: don't worry about it. I got my man, Richie Rich

2301
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 5: to cover for me. So that's when I met Richie Rich.

2302
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 5: I got the business search had that that then.

2303
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 10: Clark had said, this is my man's feeling.

2304
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:08,800
Speaker 5: Wow. I actually had the flyers that we used to make.

2305
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 5: I had the flyer and I had to put the

2306
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:15,719
Speaker 5: Richie Rich over the Clark can printed up on alternate weeks.

2307
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:20,080
Speaker 5: And that's how this man became my DJ first because

2308
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 5: we used to go to Funky Slice making the demos

2309
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 5: for Brooklyn Queens originally, and then rich was out in

2310
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:29,720
Speaker 5: Farmingdale at school and he couldn't get in, So that's

2311
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:31,880
Speaker 5: why he was going to be our first DJ before

2312
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 5: night and he just couldn't make it in and then

2313
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 5: boom tell us about how when you made it in rich.

2314
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 3: Listen, First, let's let's shout up White Knight and DJ Work.

2315
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 3: I have to tell the story.

2316
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 5: There was one point where I don't know, It's like

2317
01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 5: DJ Night also eat like a piece of cake, didn't

2318
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 5: he eat like a piece of cake at one point

2319
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 5: and got really pissed off and the and it was

2320
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 5: like sometimes routine was like it was it was like

2321
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 5: a birthday cake or something.

2322
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:08,120
Speaker 3: We were they're in the video, They're in seven to

2323
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:10,400
Speaker 3: the Amy, both in seven to the Am. They're both

2324
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 3: in the video. In the video, it was just like

2325
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:15,160
Speaker 3: I told you, I was done in the right head.

2326
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 5: But at this point, like I was really against DJ

2327
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 5: Knight time.

2328
01:55:19,720 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 3: I was like, Sorch, what the fuck are you doing?

2329
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 3: Good for Tennessee. I like DJ Knight.

2330
01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 5: I was like we were in the studio hanging out

2331
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 5: with him and then boom, next thing you know, I

2332
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 5: was like, yo.

2333
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:33,080
Speaker 3: Pete Night's gone. His mom came to pick him up.

2334
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 5: He went back to Tennessee at boom and and to

2335
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 5: Richie rich.

2336
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 3: So Night did. But just so you know, both Knight

2337
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 3: had and still does like he still does.

2338
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 1: D He's still DJs is the former DJ of Third

2339
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 1: Base all through Nashville.

2340
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 5: He was officially your guys DJ on officially when me

2341
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 5: and Barto had a label hoto, he actually was.

2342
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 3: It was DJ Night who discovered Camp Base D. So

2343
01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 3: like DJ said, ways them, bro let me.

2344
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 10: Let Night, but he's like DJ White Knight, Let's go

2345
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 10: with DJ Night.

2346
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:11,080
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you.

2347
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 5: There's a famous picture in the Hip Hop Connection the

2348
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 5: u K where we had our first photo shoot, and

2349
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 5: DJ Night is right down with us.

2350
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:20,880
Speaker 3: First photo shoot was in the UK.

2351
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,600
Speaker 5: No that yeah, it was like Normsky, I think took

2352
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:26,760
Speaker 5: the photos. He came into Elizabeth Street. We went right

2353
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 5: around the corner and boom. That was like the first

2354
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 5: time I think we were in a magazine.

2355
01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah he did the next one too. I love.

2356
01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 10: I think we Yeah, we gotta drink. We gotta drink,

2357
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:42,680
Speaker 10: We do gotta drink. It was split cheers and rest

2358
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 10: in peace both legends.

2359
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 5: Man. Apologies to Hurricane, but he was the best friend.

2360
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:51,960
Speaker 5: I couldn't pick UJ on that one, even though I

2361
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 5: wanted to.

2362
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 10: I love I love both of those men, not just legends,

2363
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 10: pioneers as well.

2364
01:56:58,160 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 3: Kick Capria read Alert for me.

2365
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:05,720
Speaker 1: It's red Alert and I love Kid Capri even though

2366
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 1: he looks like me. And every time I go, you know,

2367
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, absolutely kick Capri right now. If

2368
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm in an airport, you're kid, You'll care, Yeah you can.

2369
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 3: No, I'm not.

2370
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:24,480
Speaker 5: And King Capri goes back so far people don't even

2371
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 5: know we got him on fly. There was a fly

2372
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 5: with Paradise where I think a group called the Throwdown

2373
01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 5: four where they were battling for the name against Kid Capri.

2374
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 16: No, he's.

2375
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:36,520
Speaker 3: But I got it. When you're put in Ky Capri.

2376
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,320
Speaker 5: Up against Red Alert, it's not fair because there's no

2377
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:41,560
Speaker 5: way that anyone can know the impact had on you

2378
01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 5: just rap Radio, the Big Show, just and you know,

2379
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 5: going back to the Zulu days. I mean know, not

2380
01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:50,880
Speaker 5: for the fact personally all that he did for us.

2381
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:53,120
Speaker 5: You know, like Red would not play a record if

2382
01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:55,480
Speaker 5: he didn't like a record. Correct, And he did not

2383
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 5: like Steven Today, Correct, he did not, he did not

2384
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:01,320
Speaker 5: like it. He played it, but didn't kill it, right,

2385
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 5: And but then he loved Gas Phase correct. And you know,

2386
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 5: I mean also like the guy met him in the world.

2387
01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 5: I met him in lag quarterback when me and Rich

2388
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 5: got together. We made this uh little demo and we

2389
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 5: had the radio show and read new about the radio show,

2390
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 5: and he had the whole week could do this thing.

2391
01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 5: We were calling our show we could do this right

2392
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 5: at the same time, and he said, hey, why don't

2393
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 5: you do it promo for me? So me and Rich

2394
01:58:27,680 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 5: went in, cut into funky slice, delivered it to him.

2395
01:58:30,600 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 5: Boom played it the next week. That's why you know

2396
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:37,440
Speaker 5: he made He made us, you know, shout out.

2397
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 3: Absolute thinking on that one Swiss Beasts of Timberland.

2398
01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 1: It's funny because as soon as you say Swiss speeds

2399
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 1: are Timberland, all I hurry in my head is on Mellillilli.

2400
01:58:57,080 --> 01:59:02,840
Speaker 3: So you're thinking Swiss beats. No, I don't know what that. No,

2401
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:05,640
Speaker 3: I know, I know you didn't do it. That's all

2402
01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:07,240
Speaker 3: litill Wayne.

2403
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 1: It's still waingneay me right now we're talking about I

2404
01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:12,080
Speaker 1: didn't asked nothing about it.

2405
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:17,000
Speaker 3: Johnson made there. You know, it's funny because every it's

2406
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:20,920
Speaker 3: funny because every time I don't know what it is.

2407
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 3: I know Banglades did the beat.

2408
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:25,160
Speaker 1: Every time somebody says Swiss speachs, that's the first thing

2409
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:26,920
Speaker 1: out here that's weird.

2410
01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 3: I do think that's that left over when you get

2411
01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:35,000
Speaker 3: I don't even know why, Like I don't know why

2412
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:36,880
Speaker 3: it is like my brain goes to that.

2413
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 10: When I hear Swiss beans, I think of band from

2414
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:41,760
Speaker 10: TV Automatic.

2415
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:45,760
Speaker 3: But we need you to answer those the Swiss. You

2416
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:50,880
Speaker 3: still want me to answer? I started, no, no, no,

2417
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:54,600
Speaker 3: some more time, no no no. What did you say?

2418
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:56,720
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, considering the fact that I'm trying to

2419
01:59:56,760 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 5: get Swiss beats alone, cool heart speakers, can I not

2420
02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 5: say Swiss beating?

2421
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:01,600
Speaker 3: That's right?

2422
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:05,960
Speaker 1: Okay, which, by the way, is super flows that now

2423
02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:09,160
Speaker 1: that we know that, Yeah, that's one of Flex.

2424
02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:13,000
Speaker 3: That's a major. That's a major Flex one hundred twenty

2425
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:14,720
Speaker 3: grand major.

2426
02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:17,800
Speaker 5: F which is great because it wins what that was

2427
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:18,160
Speaker 5: sold by.

2428
02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is it really is.

2429
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:24,880
Speaker 5: You actually beat out Knaves and Peter bit of ben

2430
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:26,280
Speaker 5: because that's American history.

2431
02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:34,760
Speaker 3: Shoulder your shoulder, listen. You gotta make it right for

2432
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:35,480
Speaker 3: you to make a choice.

2433
02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:35,560
Speaker 13: Man.

2434
02:00:35,640 --> 02:00:38,640
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, I gotta go with Swiss.

2435
02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:41,240
Speaker 1: I gotta go with Swiss just because the Dmax Shop

2436
02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:43,720
Speaker 1: band from TV and Yeah both went Swiss.

2437
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:48,720
Speaker 3: What do you think, Simbo? All right, drink drink, put

2438
02:00:48,760 --> 02:00:55,520
Speaker 3: your drinks up. The boy made some great records.

2439
02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:59,960
Speaker 2: Oh cool, coming back out. I spoke to Swiss person.

2440
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:06,080
Speaker 2: Well they didn't come to til burgers e P M BU.

2441
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:12,240
Speaker 3: Or Nice and you said they're going to erase that

2442
02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:19,920
Speaker 3: ship from their mind already, mob both yall right, now,

2443
02:01:20,040 --> 02:01:23,320
Speaker 3: just for the confusion, which one is it? De m

2444
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:30,040
Speaker 3: O P I mean m O P Queen's get the

2445
02:01:30,120 --> 02:01:34,000
Speaker 3: money m O P is Brooklyn, Brooklyn. Yeah, are you sure?

2446
02:01:34,120 --> 02:01:38,640
Speaker 3: I said, Mom Deep? I said, Mom Deep o money. Yeah,

2447
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:49,720
Speaker 3: we got it on cameras. Yeah, you've been real real bro. Wow,

2448
02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:51,400
Speaker 3: I really said, m O P.

2449
02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:52,960
Speaker 5: Wow.

2450
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:58,400
Speaker 3: No, mob D okay, Mob Deep Okay, mob Deep Brooklyn

2451
02:01:58,600 --> 02:01:58,920
Speaker 3: the money.

2452
02:01:58,920 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 5: I got it.

2453
02:02:01,960 --> 02:02:04,680
Speaker 3: In the house. I know we we we're gonna have

2454
02:02:04,720 --> 02:02:06,920
Speaker 3: to skip this one. We're gonna skip this one because

2455
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:10,400
Speaker 3: we we want to know m O P. Okay. Okakay,

2456
02:02:11,480 --> 02:02:11,920
Speaker 3: we say that.

2457
02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:15,640
Speaker 5: Move.

2458
02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:19,520
Speaker 3: Don't we have to drink because it's okay. This one,

2459
02:02:19,560 --> 02:02:21,960
Speaker 3: it's okay, just move E P M D or Nice?

2460
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:24,640
Speaker 3: And this one? Did we take a pass on this one?

2461
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:28,960
Speaker 3: Well it's drink. Yeah, well you can either. I'm gonna

2462
02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:30,760
Speaker 3: have to drink on this one, all right. Yeah, I

2463
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:33,640
Speaker 3: can't pick one either. Really, Yeah, that's what we were

2464
02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:37,920
Speaker 3: trying to get the all show. Yeah. No, if this

2465
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:41,560
Speaker 3: is your attempt to do this show, you've failed miserably. No, No,

2466
02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:43,000
Speaker 3: were trying to get.

2467
02:02:42,920 --> 02:02:45,680
Speaker 1: Try to say, no, I know it doesn't matter, you're

2468
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:46,360
Speaker 1: failing miserable.

2469
02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:48,000
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I'm gonna take this one. I mean that

2470
02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:50,480
Speaker 3: was that was the toughest one. M d ns. Oh yeah,

2471
02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:51,320
Speaker 3: that was definitely tough.

2472
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:55,240
Speaker 10: Analog or digital should be, I would imagine, I mean

2473
02:02:55,320 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 10: for me, yeah, for whoever past kill me pass the mic.

2474
02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:08,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, here's the thing for me again. Just my perspective.

2475
02:03:10,520 --> 02:03:13,200
Speaker 1: I've been fortunate enough to work with some incredible artists,

2476
02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:16,760
Speaker 1: one of the most recently Bodh James. Who And I'll

2477
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:18,480
Speaker 1: say it right now, and I'll stand on business and

2478
02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:20,640
Speaker 1: I'll give a fuck who comes after me on this one.

2479
02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:26,040
Speaker 1: Body James last ten albums, not including the Harry Fraud

2480
02:03:26,120 --> 02:03:29,320
Speaker 1: record that he just put out, The Brictionary his last

2481
02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:32,720
Speaker 1: ten albums. Has not been a single MC ever in

2482
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:35,480
Speaker 1: the history of the culture ever to put out ten

2483
02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:38,320
Speaker 1: albums as strong as Body James. I stand on business,

2484
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:41,920
Speaker 1: not Jay, not nas. I don't give a fuck who

2485
02:03:41,960 --> 02:03:46,280
Speaker 1: you can find Body James last ten albums And that's

2486
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:49,600
Speaker 1: it's and if it wasn't for digital, it would never happened.

2487
02:03:50,520 --> 02:03:54,120
Speaker 3: So you're saying, no, I'm saying that because.

2488
02:03:53,880 --> 02:04:01,520
Speaker 1: I say, this record on analog. This crazy that that happened,

2489
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:06,960
Speaker 1: that they found the reels is crazy, transfer the digital crazy,

2490
02:04:07,120 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 1: which is analog. The fact that they found the reels

2491
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:13,080
Speaker 1: crazy to be analog crazy. So and the process that

2492
02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:19,840
Speaker 1: it took those reels of course, of course both because

2493
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying past because I can't pick one over the other.

2494
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:28,280
Speaker 3: Both and like Ni Ni Shae is about to be

2495
02:04:28,360 --> 02:04:29,480
Speaker 3: a problem, how about you, I.

2496
02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:33,560
Speaker 5: Gotta say analogist because it's the rap records, like we

2497
02:04:33,640 --> 02:04:36,920
Speaker 5: have the original reels for super rapping and funk you

2498
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:37,800
Speaker 5: for wrapping.

2499
02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:41,560
Speaker 3: A rock in the house. And and that's a great point.

2500
02:04:42,200 --> 02:04:42,680
Speaker 3: Great point.

2501
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:47,440
Speaker 15: Yeah, digital is making too many untalented people seem talented.

2502
02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:52,680
Speaker 3: I'll go with analogs. And there was something about analog

2503
02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:55,440
Speaker 3: gatekeeping that's okay. Does that make sense?

2504
02:04:55,720 --> 02:04:58,760
Speaker 1: Yes, up to a certain point, Like because there were

2505
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:01,880
Speaker 1: so many great artist that couldn't get on because the

2506
02:05:01,920 --> 02:05:03,600
Speaker 1: analog was so expensive.

2507
02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:04,680
Speaker 3: Great point.

2508
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And right now so many artists that shouldn't be

2509
02:05:07,560 --> 02:05:10,320
Speaker 2: on correct getting on because because it's so cheap, cheap.

2510
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:11,880
Speaker 3: But the drive. You had to have to get in

2511
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:12,960
Speaker 3: an analog studio.

2512
02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:15,800
Speaker 1: You had to be about that life, about that life,

2513
02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:20,520
Speaker 1: and it really took a lot of effort to get

2514
02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:22,920
Speaker 1: in the studio and make music.

2515
02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:26,360
Speaker 10: I respect the people that just had a vinyl record.

2516
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:29,960
Speaker 10: I was like, I might not like this song, but man,

2517
02:05:30,040 --> 02:05:30,880
Speaker 10: I got respect for you.

2518
02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:31,280
Speaker 3: Bro.

2519
02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:33,480
Speaker 1: When I found that to get to that, bro, when

2520
02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:35,680
Speaker 1: I found that the fn K deff looking for the

2521
02:05:35,720 --> 02:05:38,040
Speaker 1: perfect beat remix, Bro, damn near crowd.

2522
02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:39,960
Speaker 3: When I saw that for that ship is fire.

2523
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:45,040
Speaker 5: It's important to preserve the history of analog and just

2524
02:05:45,200 --> 02:05:48,320
Speaker 5: the whole studio history, like the Hit Factory donated the

2525
02:05:48,400 --> 02:05:52,839
Speaker 5: actual or the actual studio to hip hop music created

2526
02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:54,880
Speaker 5: that's dope, and you know you we we find all

2527
02:05:54,920 --> 02:05:58,280
Speaker 5: these two inchs like I found rock Stands, rock Stands Revenge,

2528
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:02,520
Speaker 5: the original two inches Raster Real Wow, or the promo

2529
02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:05,360
Speaker 5: that was I mean starting on Mister Magic. It wasn't

2530
02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:08,960
Speaker 5: even a record, it was broadcast on live on the air.

2531
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:10,680
Speaker 5: We have like the two inch tape.

2532
02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:15,680
Speaker 2: I love all hip hop legendary studios, d n D, Yeah, John.

2533
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:22,800
Speaker 3: King Ring Street, Calio, p Callipe Callipe was daily and I.

2534
02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:28,560
Speaker 1: Mean yo shout Misriguez talk Rodriguez on board.

2535
02:06:29,360 --> 02:06:31,920
Speaker 10: Well down here we had Criteria which ended up becoming.

2536
02:06:31,640 --> 02:06:33,480
Speaker 3: The Hip Factory. And it's circle.

2537
02:06:34,040 --> 02:06:37,480
Speaker 10: It was originally Circle seventh Street in New York City, right, Yeah,

2538
02:06:38,160 --> 02:06:39,480
Speaker 10: I love the Circle houses.

2539
02:06:39,560 --> 02:06:43,480
Speaker 1: Legendary houses will always be legend h house will never die,

2540
02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:45,840
Speaker 1: big big Quad.

2541
02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:52,080
Speaker 3: And Richard shout out after this day, control still there.

2542
02:06:53,240 --> 02:06:56,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's solder you could feel pot sould when

2543
02:06:56,400 --> 02:07:00,480
Speaker 3: you're walking. Quad, I don't. I don't know why. Oh Alex, lady,

2544
02:07:01,320 --> 02:07:03,240
Speaker 3: lady jim he's your ship? About the cat?

2545
02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:06,480
Speaker 2: Is the white cat in there? The only I'm alergy

2546
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:07,960
Speaker 2: old cats, the only cat.

2547
02:07:08,240 --> 02:07:10,040
Speaker 3: Allergic to it. I don't know if I'm not alerted

2548
02:07:10,080 --> 02:07:10,200
Speaker 3: to it.

2549
02:07:10,280 --> 02:07:12,400
Speaker 2: It just never broke me out, Like I will walk

2550
02:07:12,440 --> 02:07:14,680
Speaker 2: through and everyone will say, that's Jimmy Hendrick cat.

2551
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:19,360
Speaker 3: I mean, like his spirit. Yeah, okay, all right? And

2552
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:21,920
Speaker 3: d or Buck Wow, oh.

2553
02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:27,960
Speaker 2: Oh fuck you Dominican and the Columbia who write the

2554
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:28,880
Speaker 2: questions right behind you.

2555
02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:29,560
Speaker 5: It's not me.

2556
02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 2: We don't write these quick times line questions. Yeah yeah, right,

2557
02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:35,000
Speaker 2: I got a great Buck Wild story.

2558
02:07:35,200 --> 02:07:39,120
Speaker 1: I know you love these stories. So I'm working on

2559
02:07:39,160 --> 02:07:43,280
Speaker 1: the O C record. I signed him to Wild Pitch

2560
02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:48,400
Speaker 1: and I just finished executive producing.

2561
02:07:48,080 --> 02:07:51,560
Speaker 3: Ellmatic Wow Life Flow so Lifelow.

2562
02:07:56,440 --> 02:08:00,280
Speaker 1: And the difference between making those records was, you know,

2563
02:08:00,480 --> 02:08:01,640
Speaker 1: NAS made eleven.

2564
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:05,440
Speaker 3: Songs, right, and I believe with an intro right, and.

2565
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm maybe at forty demos with d TC and oh

2566
02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:14,400
Speaker 1: and we couldn't find the right record.

2567
02:08:15,680 --> 02:08:18,760
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, yeah, no, No, for the fans that's listening,

2568
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:21,120
Speaker 2: I probably don't know that. Let me say forty demos,

2569
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:23,360
Speaker 2: you are actually missing forty records?

2570
02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:25,520
Speaker 3: Correct? Okay, yeah, because I don't he was you know,

2571
02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:26,680
Speaker 3: we talked about analog, right.

2572
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:30,080
Speaker 2: So he's in a studio two inch reo forty songs,

2573
02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:33,360
Speaker 2: forty songs with d TC recorded.

2574
02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:38,800
Speaker 1: Wild og like Showbiz, all of them working, working, working.

2575
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:39,600
Speaker 3: All their production.

2576
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, and they're bringing back records and I'm like, nope, nope.

2577
02:08:44,040 --> 02:08:46,160
Speaker 3: So our office is a Wild Pitch.

2578
02:08:46,120 --> 02:08:50,440
Speaker 1: Had a roof deck that we could go on to

2579
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:55,320
Speaker 1: to hang out, and at one point of making this record,

2580
02:08:55,480 --> 02:08:58,560
Speaker 1: I thought for sure either I was gonna get thrown

2581
02:08:58,600 --> 02:09:01,520
Speaker 1: off the roof are always going to get thrown off.

2582
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:04,920
Speaker 1: Through one of my last meetings with these guys, they

2583
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:07,600
Speaker 1: all came to see me and I thought for sure,

2584
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:14,000
Speaker 1: was this the sec all of them? But Oh show ah, No,

2585
02:09:15,200 --> 02:09:19,480
Speaker 1: but all of them, and they're furious. I'm fucking update money.

2586
02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:23,160
Speaker 1: Oh got to put out a record, and I'm like, look,

2587
02:09:24,400 --> 02:09:25,560
Speaker 1: you ain't got the record yet.

2588
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:28,720
Speaker 3: Trust me, I know what the record sounds like. You

2589
02:09:28,760 --> 02:09:29,200
Speaker 3: ain't got it.

2590
02:09:31,080 --> 02:09:35,880
Speaker 1: Two days later, Oh comes in and the receptions downstairs,

2591
02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:39,440
Speaker 1: a wall pictures named Milky. Milky calls me, Oh's coming up.

2592
02:09:39,440 --> 02:09:44,520
Speaker 1: He ain't saying nohing, no nobody. My man left his

2593
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:46,560
Speaker 1: his thing in my office.

2594
02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:50,240
Speaker 3: So I pull. I'm figuring this is when it's going

2595
02:09:50,280 --> 02:09:50,640
Speaker 3: to happen.

2596
02:09:52,520 --> 02:09:55,720
Speaker 1: He pushes me out of the way and goes to

2597
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:59,160
Speaker 1: my DAT player and opens the That player puts it

2598
02:09:59,240 --> 02:10:02,720
Speaker 1: dat in closes a debt and I'm like, yo, was it?

2599
02:10:04,520 --> 02:10:09,760
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, you could presses play. It's about

2600
02:10:09,800 --> 02:10:11,480
Speaker 1: five seconds of fucking emptiness.

2601
02:10:12,200 --> 02:10:24,800
Speaker 3: And I hear boom boom theo stone Tom's up. Boom

2602
02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:28,520
Speaker 3: boo boom ba boom ba boon bo boon ba boom.

2603
02:10:28,600 --> 02:10:29,160
Speaker 3: Time's up.

2604
02:10:29,560 --> 02:10:32,560
Speaker 1: You lack the minerals and the hair is filt right now,

2605
02:10:32,680 --> 02:10:35,960
Speaker 1: right turns and he turned and he turns me around.

2606
02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:38,640
Speaker 3: And he says and he says to me, and he

2607
02:10:38,680 --> 02:10:41,240
Speaker 3: says to me, I understand now.

2608
02:10:42,240 --> 02:10:46,200
Speaker 1: Buck comes up and says, I understand now, And two

2609
02:10:46,560 --> 02:10:51,280
Speaker 1: weeks later the whole album was finished. Fast forward thirty

2610
02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:54,839
Speaker 1: years later, we're doing this thing called Top Shelf with Rostrom.

2611
02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:55,680
Speaker 3: Right.

2612
02:10:56,480 --> 02:10:58,520
Speaker 1: I hadn't talked to Buck in at least fifteen years.

2613
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:00,480
Speaker 1: He pulls me over and he says, yo, I never

2614
02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:04,160
Speaker 1: thanked you for that. Ain't all lesson? I said, of

2615
02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:04,600
Speaker 1: course you did.

2616
02:11:04,680 --> 02:11:05,040
Speaker 3: He said no.

2617
02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:09,960
Speaker 1: Right after that happened, I was in the tunnel and

2618
02:11:10,080 --> 02:11:12,280
Speaker 1: I saw a big and Big told me that was

2619
02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:13,120
Speaker 1: his favorite record.

2620
02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:15,160
Speaker 3: And I got to do story to tell because of

2621
02:11:15,200 --> 02:11:18,760
Speaker 3: that record. And if it wasn't for you, and it

2622
02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:19,320
Speaker 3: wasn't for you.

2623
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:21,880
Speaker 1: Pushing us so hard on those forty fucking records that

2624
02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:23,800
Speaker 1: we all thought should have been on word Life, we

2625
02:11:23,960 --> 02:11:25,040
Speaker 1: never would have got to word Life.

2626
02:11:25,080 --> 02:11:28,040
Speaker 3: I never would have got the times up. So thank you. Wow,

2627
02:11:28,080 --> 02:11:35,880
Speaker 3: God damn makes a noise for that answer. What's the answer, diamond,

2628
02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:36,600
Speaker 3: dear buckets?

2629
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:44,360
Speaker 1: For me, it's obvious as Buckwell shout out a book man, Yeah,

2630
02:11:44,480 --> 02:11:46,160
Speaker 1: old g I t C is coreat that cruise.

2631
02:11:46,200 --> 02:11:49,400
Speaker 2: Fucking crazy because he's saying both because he said past

2632
02:11:50,440 --> 02:11:51,520
Speaker 2: drinks and we still got a drink.

2633
02:11:52,160 --> 02:11:57,720
Speaker 3: Let's say both that passed. I don't like salute salut

2634
02:11:59,480 --> 02:12:07,120
Speaker 3: oh the meal being like rosa. Oh yeah, that's you, bro.

2635
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:10,720
Speaker 3: That's the New York sports stuff you want to feel

2636
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:13,680
Speaker 3: sitting there. I mean, I got, I got enough raise

2637
02:12:13,880 --> 02:12:16,200
Speaker 3: you got that's easy.

2638
02:12:16,960 --> 02:12:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean for me, that's easy. Queens all day, Mets,

2639
02:12:21,480 --> 02:12:26,960
Speaker 1: Jet's nixt Wait wait wait, I don't watch none of that.

2640
02:12:27,560 --> 02:12:31,400
Speaker 1: So it's passed, yea pass watch it?

2641
02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:33,440
Speaker 3: I don't watch it. We don't care. I like this

2642
02:12:33,960 --> 02:12:38,440
Speaker 3: not technically a pass past. Yeah, that's actually a pass.

2643
02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:42,240
Speaker 3: But there's no drink, so you got to drinks. That's

2644
02:12:42,280 --> 02:12:46,120
Speaker 3: the way you should use. How many passes do you get? Though?

2645
02:12:46,720 --> 02:12:49,400
Speaker 1: It unlimited past it's cool because you're not drinking, so

2646
02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, so it's designated you've been drinking.

2647
02:12:52,240 --> 02:12:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, flex flex, you can take this one. I'm sorry,

2648
02:12:57,000 --> 02:13:00,360
Speaker 3: we wind that you can take this one. Flex for clue,

2649
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:06,120
Speaker 3: we should start with you. That's we're gonna start with you.

2650
02:13:06,320 --> 02:13:10,320
Speaker 17: Really, and you said it was just flex to DJ Okay,

2651
02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:15,600
Speaker 17: clue doesn't DJ No, I got it, I got it,

2652
02:13:15,680 --> 02:13:18,200
Speaker 17: flexy DJ and need Jamaican.

2653
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:21,120
Speaker 5: And there is.

2654
02:13:22,760 --> 02:13:25,520
Speaker 3: He's like Lennar Mercy, that was hard.

2655
02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:34,000
Speaker 1: I'll stay with my brother Daddy rich flex. Okay, queens

2656
02:13:34,040 --> 02:13:37,680
Speaker 1: get the money. Okay, queens get the money.

2657
02:13:39,800 --> 02:13:41,560
Speaker 10: I mean they both have a clue. They both did

2658
02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:46,760
Speaker 10: the little big things. Yeah, clue, all right, my nigga

2659
02:13:48,160 --> 02:13:49,600
Speaker 10: New Jack City or Juice.

2660
02:13:51,560 --> 02:13:58,160
Speaker 3: For real. So that's that's that's that's both. That's both

2661
02:13:58,320 --> 02:14:01,000
Speaker 3: hip hop. That's what you was hating on New I

2662
02:14:01,160 --> 02:14:04,200
Speaker 3: never hated on New York. No hate on us. We

2663
02:14:04,360 --> 02:14:06,080
Speaker 3: never hate it on y'all. Y'all hate it. We didn't

2664
02:14:06,120 --> 02:14:10,000
Speaker 3: hate on mine on the rest of We're not gonna

2665
02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:13,840
Speaker 3: get into this argument. You remember the story you just

2666
02:14:13,960 --> 02:14:15,960
Speaker 3: told when I went and then they put two life

2667
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:16,440
Speaker 3: creup before.

2668
02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:16,920
Speaker 10: Uh huh.

2669
02:14:18,400 --> 02:14:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I didn't understand, no comprehend. You were like, no, no, no,

2670
02:14:24,480 --> 02:14:30,000
Speaker 3: I no, we never hated, no, of course not. Wait,

2671
02:14:30,080 --> 02:14:32,880
Speaker 3: there's a difference between hating and not understanding. I didn't

2672
02:14:32,880 --> 02:14:34,800
Speaker 3: say hate, you did. You just said you hated on us.

2673
02:14:34,840 --> 02:14:36,400
Speaker 3: We gotta go on tag but we got.

2674
02:14:39,080 --> 02:14:39,560
Speaker 5: We got.

2675
02:14:40,920 --> 02:14:41,720
Speaker 3: Hating it hating.

2676
02:14:42,440 --> 02:14:45,000
Speaker 1: You didn't hate. We didn't understand. It's a difference. It's

2677
02:14:45,040 --> 02:14:46,120
Speaker 1: a cultural difference.

2678
02:14:46,240 --> 02:14:49,760
Speaker 10: I like that breaking in New York locked out everybody

2679
02:14:49,800 --> 02:14:52,640
Speaker 10: else in the couse we didn't. It comes out Okay,

2680
02:14:52,760 --> 02:14:55,560
Speaker 10: great story, but understand it's not a great story. What

2681
02:14:55,600 --> 02:14:57,560
Speaker 10: I'm saying that that is the story. But I'm saying

2682
02:14:57,760 --> 02:15:00,640
Speaker 10: it happened. Though it happened, it didn't. It didn't not happened.

2683
02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:03,040
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying to you that it wasn't based

2684
02:15:03,240 --> 02:15:07,440
Speaker 1: on hate. It wasn't like you did anything to cause hate.

2685
02:15:08,080 --> 02:15:09,280
Speaker 1: We just didn't understand.

2686
02:15:09,360 --> 02:15:12,480
Speaker 10: It depends when you hear people from New York saying, oh, y'all,

2687
02:15:12,560 --> 02:15:14,960
Speaker 10: Bama's y'all, this y'all, that that is hate.

2688
02:15:15,680 --> 02:15:18,160
Speaker 3: That's not what we're standing York though. But yeah, no,

2689
02:15:18,440 --> 02:15:23,040
Speaker 3: and first of all, Bama most of the country are

2690
02:15:23,120 --> 02:15:27,840
Speaker 3: excuse me, considered just FYI, it wasn't Bamas, it was Bumpkins.

2691
02:15:28,120 --> 02:15:30,320
Speaker 3: It's different. No, we wear a lot of things, a

2692
02:15:30,480 --> 02:15:31,120
Speaker 3: lot of things.

2693
02:15:31,240 --> 02:15:31,280
Speaker 13: No.

2694
02:15:31,400 --> 02:15:34,720
Speaker 1: No, the point was it wasn't because of hate. It

2695
02:15:34,840 --> 02:15:37,640
Speaker 1: was because of lack of understanding. We weren't around Jill.

2696
02:15:37,960 --> 02:15:41,440
Speaker 1: So if we can articulate this way different, if I'm

2697
02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:44,640
Speaker 1: the same at twenty four, then it wasn't fifty four.

2698
02:15:44,680 --> 02:15:47,680
Speaker 3: I wasted thirty years of my life. I'll just say

2699
02:15:47,720 --> 02:15:49,839
Speaker 3: this and this is a whole other podcast.

2700
02:15:49,880 --> 02:15:52,120
Speaker 10: Y'all had some bad but hip hop would be different

2701
02:15:52,200 --> 02:15:54,120
Speaker 10: now if New York would have opened up a little

2702
02:15:54,160 --> 02:15:56,440
Speaker 10: bit more at a certain time, absolutely, hip hop would

2703
02:15:56,480 --> 02:15:57,440
Speaker 10: be totally different.

2704
02:15:57,840 --> 02:16:06,120
Speaker 3: That is one hundred percent because everybody yet now, I

2705
02:16:08,000 --> 02:16:12,280
Speaker 3: don't know what you say you were like, I can't

2706
02:16:12,280 --> 02:16:17,240
Speaker 3: wait to a record with that. I don't know what

2707
02:16:17,280 --> 02:16:21,160
Speaker 3: you're talking about right now, but let it up.

2708
02:16:21,720 --> 02:16:24,480
Speaker 1: And when we're looking but looking at our beautiful things,

2709
02:16:24,520 --> 02:16:26,520
Speaker 1: all right, now, look how horrible this music is.

2710
02:16:26,720 --> 02:16:29,320
Speaker 3: Hell, get out of here, bro get it. You don't

2711
02:16:29,320 --> 02:16:30,320
Speaker 3: want to. That's not the way.

2712
02:16:30,400 --> 02:16:32,040
Speaker 10: That's not the way this went. That's not the way

2713
02:16:32,120 --> 02:16:34,720
Speaker 10: this went. No, that's not the way. I listen.

2714
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:35,680
Speaker 3: You're right.

2715
02:16:35,959 --> 02:16:37,520
Speaker 1: History is going to see it, thank you very much.

2716
02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:39,120
Speaker 1: History is going to see it a different way.

2717
02:16:39,240 --> 02:16:41,760
Speaker 3: Right. History is going to see it as hate. Right,

2718
02:16:41,840 --> 02:16:44,320
Speaker 3: I got it, I get it, forget keeping. Let's does

2719
02:16:44,400 --> 02:16:44,960
Speaker 3: not call it hate.

2720
02:16:45,000 --> 02:16:47,800
Speaker 1: Let's I think that's a good immersion of ioeping for

2721
02:16:47,959 --> 02:16:51,520
Speaker 1: me at this point in my life, I would just

2722
02:16:51,600 --> 02:16:53,840
Speaker 1: prefer to use different adjectives to describe ship.

2723
02:16:54,040 --> 02:16:56,480
Speaker 3: And for me, it was just different, like we didn't

2724
02:16:56,560 --> 02:16:59,520
Speaker 3: get it, like we didn't get what we loved about.

2725
02:16:59,560 --> 02:17:02,879
Speaker 1: It was the things that we understood right going out,

2726
02:17:03,000 --> 02:17:06,119
Speaker 1: having a good time, being around people. You know that part,

2727
02:17:06,320 --> 02:17:11,160
Speaker 1: eating good, drinking good, smoking good, feeling good. Everything else

2728
02:17:11,240 --> 02:17:13,480
Speaker 1: didn't make sense to us, like the beats, and it

2729
02:17:13,560 --> 02:17:15,600
Speaker 1: didn't make sense to us because we didn't come from that.

2730
02:17:15,680 --> 02:17:17,680
Speaker 3: It was just different. It wasn't hate. It was a

2731
02:17:17,760 --> 02:17:18,600
Speaker 3: lack of understanding.

2732
02:17:19,400 --> 02:17:22,119
Speaker 1: The thing about New Yorkers and this is the one

2733
02:17:22,200 --> 02:17:25,960
Speaker 1: thing that's just about New Yorkers. We come from a

2734
02:17:26,040 --> 02:17:29,440
Speaker 1: place that's so siloed and so eco, Like, we don't

2735
02:17:29,560 --> 02:17:31,640
Speaker 1: understand how you don't get around on the subway.

2736
02:17:31,879 --> 02:17:34,120
Speaker 3: We don't understand how you don't know every street in

2737
02:17:34,160 --> 02:17:35,520
Speaker 3: the five Burroughs. We don't.

2738
02:17:36,080 --> 02:17:40,439
Speaker 1: That's it's foreign to us, right, because we're so siloed.

2739
02:17:40,760 --> 02:17:42,480
Speaker 1: So when we come down here and you're like, oh,

2740
02:17:42,520 --> 02:17:43,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how to get there from here, We're like,

2741
02:17:43,879 --> 02:17:44,800
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you talking about?

2742
02:17:44,840 --> 02:17:46,959
Speaker 3: You fucking bumpkin. You always just take the blah da

2743
02:17:47,000 --> 02:17:48,360
Speaker 3: da dah, the blah dah dah, and you just get

2744
02:17:48,440 --> 02:17:48,840
Speaker 3: that bunk.

2745
02:17:49,959 --> 02:17:52,920
Speaker 1: No understand now, I'm not talking about him a bumpkin,

2746
02:17:53,920 --> 02:17:54,880
Speaker 1: but that's how it was.

2747
02:17:55,160 --> 02:17:55,879
Speaker 10: But no, no, no, But.

2748
02:18:03,680 --> 02:18:06,320
Speaker 3: I don't need any of your people coming from right now.

2749
02:18:06,600 --> 02:18:10,039
Speaker 3: I don't mean people running up in no, but the point.

2750
02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:12,040
Speaker 3: But that was the old thing. Like I was just

2751
02:18:12,160 --> 02:18:15,200
Speaker 3: explaining this, I was explaining to my man from Jersey, right,

2752
02:18:15,600 --> 02:18:16,000
Speaker 3: My man.

2753
02:18:16,240 --> 02:18:19,200
Speaker 1: Jersey had the same issue with the Yes, my man

2754
02:18:19,280 --> 02:18:24,240
Speaker 1: from Jersey, say Brody. My man from Jersey City, which

2755
02:18:24,320 --> 02:18:26,560
Speaker 1: is five minutes from fucking Newark, doesn't know how to

2756
02:18:26,600 --> 02:18:29,560
Speaker 1: get through Newark. I'm like, Yo, you're fucking sixty seventy

2757
02:18:29,640 --> 02:18:31,760
Speaker 1: years old. How the fuck is that possible? You live

2758
02:18:31,840 --> 02:18:34,280
Speaker 1: here your whole fucking life. How do you not know

2759
02:18:34,640 --> 02:18:37,320
Speaker 1: how to get from this restaurant Jersey to the fucking

2760
02:18:37,360 --> 02:18:38,960
Speaker 1: Trip hotel in downtown Newark.

2761
02:18:39,800 --> 02:18:41,879
Speaker 3: It's five minutes, It's five blocks.

2762
02:18:42,800 --> 02:18:46,080
Speaker 1: It's crazy because when we were crumbing up in New York,

2763
02:18:46,160 --> 02:18:48,560
Speaker 1: whether it was rich, you knew that, you knew how

2764
02:18:48,600 --> 02:18:50,200
Speaker 1: to take the D train to the A to the

2765
02:18:50,280 --> 02:18:53,000
Speaker 1: C to the two to the sixth, you knew every block.

2766
02:18:54,400 --> 02:18:57,440
Speaker 3: So it it just it was just a different mindset.

2767
02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:00,320
Speaker 3: And I'm not calling you a no.

2768
02:19:00,879 --> 02:19:02,480
Speaker 10: Like I said, this is a whole other podcast we

2769
02:19:02,520 --> 02:19:03,879
Speaker 10: could do. We're not gonna do it that at all.

2770
02:19:04,959 --> 02:19:07,400
Speaker 1: Because when we work together, when we worked records together,

2771
02:19:07,480 --> 02:19:09,879
Speaker 1: I trusted you on everything.

2772
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:11,600
Speaker 3: Of course, I would never question you.

2773
02:19:11,640 --> 02:19:14,480
Speaker 1: I would never come into another city and be like, oh,

2774
02:19:14,600 --> 02:19:19,320
Speaker 1: y'all doing it's crazy, but I.

2775
02:19:19,400 --> 02:19:19,920
Speaker 3: Love that ship.

2776
02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:20,760
Speaker 5: What about Juice?

2777
02:19:22,000 --> 02:19:24,920
Speaker 3: What about juice? I said both? I said both, Yeah,

2778
02:19:24,920 --> 02:19:25,760
Speaker 3: I said both drink.

2779
02:19:26,040 --> 02:19:27,600
Speaker 10: Oh no, that's what I'm sorry because he said it was.

2780
02:19:27,640 --> 02:19:33,120
Speaker 3: Not a New Jok City, New York City. Juice is

2781
02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:35,360
Speaker 3: what made me want to really New Jack City or Juice.

2782
02:19:35,840 --> 02:19:38,640
Speaker 3: Both are like being on set of Juice by the Yeah,

2783
02:19:38,640 --> 02:19:41,280
Speaker 3: I gotta hear this because that that wanted me made

2784
02:19:41,320 --> 02:19:42,519
Speaker 3: me buy my turntables.

2785
02:19:42,840 --> 02:19:45,320
Speaker 1: He yo, that's some heavyweights. Man, you're going against fucking

2786
02:19:45,400 --> 02:19:45,959
Speaker 1: Daddy Rich.

2787
02:19:46,040 --> 02:19:48,280
Speaker 3: And the funny thing is.

2788
02:19:49,800 --> 02:19:52,520
Speaker 4: Me and Scratch was supposed to battle that day on

2789
02:19:52,720 --> 02:19:57,320
Speaker 4: set on set, but he went to Buffalo, so that

2790
02:19:57,440 --> 02:19:58,440
Speaker 4: had been kind of crazy.

2791
02:19:58,560 --> 02:19:58,840
Speaker 10: But U.

2792
02:20:00,400 --> 02:20:03,280
Speaker 4: The records that we used in the real records, they

2793
02:20:03,320 --> 02:20:04,320
Speaker 4: didn't get the sample clear.

2794
02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:08,000
Speaker 10: So like the battles session that the whole thing was overdub.

2795
02:20:08,160 --> 02:20:10,320
Speaker 10: But were they were really trying to like was it real?

2796
02:20:10,640 --> 02:20:11,720
Speaker 10: Was audio really connected?

2797
02:20:11,879 --> 02:20:12,039
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2798
02:20:12,080 --> 02:20:15,520
Speaker 4: They were really DJing. We were really battled. Wow, Yeah,

2799
02:20:15,879 --> 02:20:18,840
Speaker 4: we're really battled. But Scratch had to go to Buffalo

2800
02:20:19,000 --> 02:20:23,560
Speaker 4: that day so he couldn't make it, and uh for

2801
02:20:23,680 --> 02:20:26,960
Speaker 4: Omar Epps to pump me up, part scratched it. That

2802
02:20:27,440 --> 02:20:31,040
Speaker 4: and I think the other practice thing, I think Classic

2803
02:20:31,160 --> 02:20:34,160
Speaker 4: Man did that. That's who plugged us in with them. Wow,

2804
02:20:35,680 --> 02:20:36,360
Speaker 4: all Superman.

2805
02:20:37,240 --> 02:20:41,640
Speaker 1: So we're saying juice, No, I'm saying. I'm saying both Yo.

2806
02:20:41,760 --> 02:20:42,880
Speaker 1: New Jack City was my fuck.

2807
02:20:43,200 --> 02:20:44,640
Speaker 3: Yo. New Jack City is off the chain.

2808
02:20:44,720 --> 02:20:44,800
Speaker 5: Yo.

2809
02:20:44,920 --> 02:20:46,080
Speaker 3: New Jack Cony was off the chain.

2810
02:20:46,920 --> 02:20:49,760
Speaker 1: And I was uptown when that shit really happened when

2811
02:20:49,800 --> 02:20:52,160
Speaker 1: they took over that building, that ship.

2812
02:20:52,440 --> 02:21:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're drinking, Yes, I think we are as Yeah,

2813
02:21:01,680 --> 02:21:05,120
Speaker 3: all right, h yeah, answer this. You're gonna let me

2814
02:21:05,160 --> 02:21:10,119
Speaker 3: thank you very much. I appreciate you for my name

2815
02:21:10,240 --> 02:21:14,920
Speaker 3: is not just on the den. It's okay then n

2816
02:21:15,120 --> 02:21:18,400
Speaker 3: w A or Wu tang. This is a highly debated

2817
02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:21,400
Speaker 3: now it's not even that debated. It really isn't that

2818
02:21:21,480 --> 02:21:25,320
Speaker 3: highly debated. But so okay. So I think he's a

2819
02:21:25,440 --> 02:21:28,120
Speaker 3: terrible pair. To be honest, I don't like the pair.

2820
02:21:29,560 --> 02:21:33,200
Speaker 1: Who's the third base story to that, I believe, And

2821
02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:36,520
Speaker 1: again my perspective, only my perspective based on talking to

2822
02:21:36,600 --> 02:21:39,760
Speaker 1: Dre and talking to Ice Cube, m if there was

2823
02:21:39,879 --> 02:21:43,320
Speaker 1: no Cactus album, the production on the first n A

2824
02:21:43,680 --> 02:21:47,160
Speaker 1: w A album would be different really because and Q

2825
02:21:48,160 --> 02:21:53,040
Speaker 1: they were so impressed with the production on the Cactus

2826
02:21:53,360 --> 02:21:55,920
Speaker 1: one second, it came to our album party to show

2827
02:21:56,000 --> 02:21:56,480
Speaker 1: us love.

2828
02:21:56,840 --> 02:22:01,360
Speaker 3: The first album was Bump Squad involved, Right, this one

2829
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:07,120
Speaker 3: is the majority of Chris Paul. Yeah, okay, but he

2830
02:22:07,320 --> 02:22:07,560
Speaker 3: loved it.

2831
02:22:07,680 --> 02:22:12,760
Speaker 1: But but Dre and Cube loved Sam's production like that

2832
02:22:13,320 --> 02:22:17,800
Speaker 1: particular like they loved if you listen to that first.

2833
02:22:17,720 --> 02:22:21,400
Speaker 3: N w A album, them snares, them drums, they sound.

2834
02:22:21,200 --> 02:22:22,920
Speaker 10: A lot like which is the ice Cube story that

2835
02:22:22,959 --> 02:22:25,279
Speaker 10: he was looking for, right, Okay, okay.

2836
02:22:25,240 --> 02:22:28,440
Speaker 5: But but that's the four Sam denies that story, that

2837
02:22:28,560 --> 02:22:30,160
Speaker 5: no one ever contacted him.

2838
02:22:30,440 --> 02:22:36,560
Speaker 3: That might have been leor didn't make the call, right,

2839
02:22:36,680 --> 02:22:38,600
Speaker 3: but l Cohen against the gas.

2840
02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:43,800
Speaker 1: But the point is that's why Cube came to New York. Right,

2841
02:22:44,400 --> 02:22:48,920
Speaker 1: Whether whether I think it's there's Yeah, whether le or

2842
02:22:49,040 --> 02:22:52,960
Speaker 1: call Sam or not, it's on that right. But obviously

2843
02:22:53,000 --> 02:22:56,480
Speaker 1: that's what Yeah came. He came to meet with Sam.

2844
02:22:56,640 --> 02:23:01,199
Speaker 5: Sever But they sonically, they made a lot of innovations

2845
02:23:01,240 --> 02:23:03,920
Speaker 5: and followed more of the East Coast lead on production,

2846
02:23:04,120 --> 02:23:06,640
Speaker 5: like when when Africa Islam went out to the West Coast,

2847
02:23:07,120 --> 02:23:10,080
Speaker 5: but I see he brought that whole, you know, kicks

2848
02:23:10,120 --> 02:23:12,680
Speaker 5: in the Aunt medic you know, like the beats. You

2849
02:23:12,760 --> 02:23:15,680
Speaker 5: can hear the influence these coast. You could see the

2850
02:23:15,800 --> 02:23:18,360
Speaker 5: L A Posse coming back from New York and bringing

2851
02:23:18,360 --> 02:23:21,520
Speaker 5: the West Coast to New York. So people sleep on

2852
02:23:21,879 --> 02:23:25,000
Speaker 5: L A Posse and Islam like laying the foundation which

2853
02:23:25,040 --> 02:23:27,200
Speaker 5: is zoom like and yeah for n w A. And

2854
02:23:27,440 --> 02:23:30,120
Speaker 5: when you look at what was the searchers saying, you know,

2855
02:23:30,160 --> 02:23:33,160
Speaker 5: you see in the East coast influence which you know,

2856
02:23:33,320 --> 02:23:37,439
Speaker 5: like Dante Ross would tell us, wah is incredible.

2857
02:23:36,959 --> 02:23:39,400
Speaker 1: Which is this whole in their movie And in the

2858
02:23:39,720 --> 02:23:42,600
Speaker 1: remember the going to the World and hearing Dope Man

2859
02:23:42,680 --> 02:23:44,879
Speaker 1: for the first time and thinking like what the fuck

2860
02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:48,280
Speaker 1: is this? This is crazy? Sounded so big in the world,

2861
02:23:49,000 --> 02:23:54,360
Speaker 1: Dope Man, Dope Man, Yo, that ship sounded crazy. It

2862
02:23:54,440 --> 02:24:00,480
Speaker 1: was incredible, man, mhm wu tang or n w A.

2863
02:24:00,640 --> 02:24:01,360
Speaker 1: It's a bad pairing.

2864
02:24:01,760 --> 02:24:04,080
Speaker 3: It's a very bad. I don't like the parent. Yeah,

2865
02:24:04,080 --> 02:24:04,840
Speaker 3: I got whatch on.

2866
02:24:04,879 --> 02:24:07,800
Speaker 10: It because I think generationally it's not.

2867
02:24:08,240 --> 02:24:08,880
Speaker 3: The right parent.

2868
02:24:08,959 --> 02:24:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm both so important in both. Yeah,

2869
02:24:11,560 --> 02:24:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna puge. I'm also gonna pass. I'm

2870
02:24:14,240 --> 02:24:22,640
Speaker 1: gonna pay a past. Okay, Dan.

2871
02:24:24,680 --> 02:24:32,480
Speaker 3: Knew he was gonna. I knew it. I actually am

2872
02:24:32,520 --> 02:24:36,480
Speaker 3: not mad at that. And there it is. Okay, all right,

2873
02:24:39,320 --> 02:24:48,959
Speaker 3: you already, Prince Paul large pro Oh, oh, I'm ninety

2874
02:24:49,040 --> 02:24:51,039
Speaker 3: nine percent sure. I know what Rich and Peter are

2875
02:24:51,080 --> 02:24:58,160
Speaker 3: gonna say. All right, Nussell Dommas, I'm ninety nine percent sure.

2876
02:25:00,200 --> 02:25:01,320
Speaker 5: But what are you gonna say?

2877
02:25:08,200 --> 02:25:10,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna I'm waiting for y'all like i'm

2878
02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:14,280
Speaker 3: I'm I'm we can't do that, you can't.

2879
02:25:15,640 --> 02:25:20,160
Speaker 14: This is okay, so large Professor, Okay, I got I

2880
02:25:20,240 --> 02:25:21,240
Speaker 14: gotta pass on that one.

2881
02:25:21,280 --> 02:25:25,920
Speaker 5: I can't you and your passes both both both both,

2882
02:25:28,160 --> 02:25:28,920
Speaker 5: my professor.

2883
02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I'm surprised. I'm surprised. You know, I'm surprised.

2884
02:25:33,800 --> 02:25:34,879
Speaker 1: I thought you would say, principal.

2885
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:36,680
Speaker 3: So maybe two. I don't know.

2886
02:25:38,160 --> 02:25:39,879
Speaker 10: Okay, no drinking, no drinking.

2887
02:25:41,400 --> 02:25:43,880
Speaker 3: That's fair enough. I'll do it. Oh, d b or

2888
02:25:43,879 --> 02:25:45,400
Speaker 3: Bis Wait wait, wait you gotta drink?

2889
02:25:45,480 --> 02:25:45,520
Speaker 5: No?

2890
02:25:46,840 --> 02:25:48,480
Speaker 3: Oh, I say, we just changed the rules in the

2891
02:25:48,520 --> 02:25:50,720
Speaker 3: middu We just do that. It's your show.

2892
02:25:50,760 --> 02:25:51,120
Speaker 1: You can do it.

2893
02:25:52,920 --> 02:25:58,200
Speaker 18: Oh d b Or Bismarck, Bismark, bis Mark Mark okay,

2894
02:25:58,680 --> 02:25:59,960
Speaker 18: rest in peace, resting peace?

2895
02:26:00,000 --> 02:26:02,920
Speaker 3: Would you fuck you?

2896
02:26:03,400 --> 02:26:03,560
Speaker 9: Wrap?

2897
02:26:04,280 --> 02:26:07,120
Speaker 3: Mm hmm yeah, I gotta go ge Queen Wrap queens

2898
02:26:07,120 --> 02:26:07,600
Speaker 3: get the money.

2899
02:26:08,760 --> 02:26:11,240
Speaker 10: But schoolids an original this one yay?

2900
02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:13,360
Speaker 3: Or forall for real?

2901
02:26:14,959 --> 02:26:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2902
02:26:16,240 --> 02:26:21,000
Speaker 3: For Rell right? Who said yeah? Oh two? The one

2903
02:26:21,040 --> 02:26:22,720
Speaker 3: wins right new Roules. Oh yeah, I was about the

2904
02:26:22,800 --> 02:26:30,360
Speaker 3: radio drink Queen Latifa might not passed. They both. If

2905
02:26:30,400 --> 02:26:33,879
Speaker 3: you're going to pass, say pass. If you're gonna say both.

2906
02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:35,600
Speaker 5: Have you ever seen the papers in the video?

2907
02:26:35,840 --> 02:26:41,720
Speaker 3: Of course? What you get paper? Who's doing this? You

2908
02:26:41,840 --> 02:26:45,160
Speaker 3: look closely? Get the funk out of here?

2909
02:26:45,640 --> 02:26:49,240
Speaker 5: Me and searches show ball where the top villain video?

2910
02:26:49,800 --> 02:26:52,280
Speaker 3: His his father in the top I'm in the top

2911
02:26:52,360 --> 02:26:56,240
Speaker 3: building video. So his father is chilling. Yeah, the uh

2912
02:26:57,000 --> 02:27:00,320
Speaker 3: pool his father worked. You know, he was a bishop

2913
02:27:00,360 --> 02:27:01,160
Speaker 3: Ford High school.

2914
02:27:01,280 --> 02:27:04,720
Speaker 1: They have the jopist letthermon jackets black red and white

2915
02:27:05,000 --> 02:27:08,800
Speaker 1: letther sleeve. His dad for my birthday had been in

2916
02:27:08,959 --> 02:27:11,400
Speaker 1: EMCE search bishop Ford that said, g w.

2917
02:27:12,000 --> 02:27:18,600
Speaker 3: For go white boy and I wore that ship in

2918
02:27:18,760 --> 02:27:22,320
Speaker 3: the milk and the audio two videos kind of yo,

2919
02:27:22,520 --> 02:27:23,240
Speaker 3: that's iconic.

2920
02:27:23,320 --> 02:27:25,520
Speaker 1: But you gotta check out the light video because I

2921
02:27:25,640 --> 02:27:28,240
Speaker 1: played a fucking Italian muscle boy.

2922
02:27:28,360 --> 02:27:31,560
Speaker 3: That's what fucking with soul.

2923
02:27:32,120 --> 02:27:35,080
Speaker 10: I need you to be an Italian like the description

2924
02:27:35,240 --> 02:27:36,959
Speaker 10: is wild Italian muscle boy.

2925
02:27:36,920 --> 02:27:39,280
Speaker 3: With Yeah, that's what Lionel Martin told me to do.

2926
02:27:39,680 --> 02:27:41,800
Speaker 3: That's in the video as a wild describon. That's what

2927
02:27:41,959 --> 02:27:47,840
Speaker 3: she said, kind of fire. So we all said both.

2928
02:27:48,520 --> 02:27:48,680
Speaker 13: Yeah.

2929
02:27:48,680 --> 02:27:51,480
Speaker 15: I used to DJs like really like we're in the

2930
02:27:51,520 --> 02:27:56,160
Speaker 15: group together as kids, so like all right, drink all.

2931
02:27:56,160 --> 02:28:01,800
Speaker 16: Right, yo, she's to you for that. That's legendary. Ship

2932
02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:08,119
Speaker 16: Rich's neighborhood got crazy history.

2933
02:28:11,680 --> 02:28:24,440
Speaker 8: Podcasts of radio podcast or radio podcast podcasts means like

2934
02:28:24,560 --> 02:28:26,480
Speaker 8: the same thing kind of that. You could curse it,

2935
02:28:26,600 --> 02:28:29,039
Speaker 8: I say, podcast, right, Yeah, there you go. Damn we're

2936
02:28:29,120 --> 02:28:30,000
Speaker 8: on the same page.

2937
02:28:30,080 --> 02:28:34,839
Speaker 3: Ships, Public Enemy or Gangstar.

2938
02:28:39,680 --> 02:28:46,680
Speaker 1: Recipes. Public so important? Yeah, yeah, I think I think

2939
02:28:48,440 --> 02:28:52,320
Speaker 1: Public Enemy, we definitely say. That's my default on these

2940
02:28:52,320 --> 02:28:54,600
Speaker 1: type of questions. I think that the person would say this,

2941
02:28:55,080 --> 02:28:56,359
Speaker 1: the people the predecessors.

2942
02:28:56,440 --> 02:28:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we.

2943
02:28:57,760 --> 02:29:01,000
Speaker 5: Basically saw them from the beginning, and then we saw

2944
02:29:01,040 --> 02:29:01,920
Speaker 5: the world because of them.

2945
02:29:02,520 --> 02:29:04,920
Speaker 3: I mean literally in the world because of Public Enemy.

2946
02:29:05,160 --> 02:29:07,040
Speaker 3: We opened for them for damn near two years.

2947
02:29:07,360 --> 02:29:09,840
Speaker 5: I mean Clark Can he got the test press that

2948
02:29:09,920 --> 02:29:12,560
Speaker 5: rubber without a pause to play on our show from

2949
02:29:12,640 --> 02:29:16,120
Speaker 5: Red and you know you just saw like that record, yo,

2950
02:29:16,280 --> 02:29:18,320
Speaker 5: that right alone. If they just put out that record

2951
02:29:18,400 --> 02:29:19,200
Speaker 5: at the Latin Quarter and.

2952
02:29:19,200 --> 02:29:22,200
Speaker 1: It was crazy the year before because you know, Yo,

2953
02:29:22,240 --> 02:29:25,000
Speaker 1: bum Rush Show. People tend to forget that young bum

2954
02:29:25,160 --> 02:29:28,320
Speaker 1: Rush Show is the first album. It did not have that,

2955
02:29:28,480 --> 02:29:32,120
Speaker 1: it had my ninety eight no right. I remember them

2956
02:29:32,160 --> 02:29:34,039
Speaker 1: getting booed off stage at the Latin Quarter.

2957
02:29:33,879 --> 02:29:35,440
Speaker 3: Because it was it was new.

2958
02:29:36,320 --> 02:29:38,600
Speaker 1: You knew it, but it was different, Yeah, and nobody

2959
02:29:38,720 --> 02:29:41,440
Speaker 1: was checking for it. And then a year later they

2960
02:29:41,520 --> 02:29:43,840
Speaker 1: came with that and it was a rap like that

2961
02:29:43,959 --> 02:29:47,240
Speaker 1: record literally became the stick up record in the Lane Quarter.

2962
02:29:47,440 --> 02:29:50,400
Speaker 1: Like when that record yeah, like when that record came up,

2963
02:29:51,040 --> 02:29:52,840
Speaker 1: you took off your because.

2964
02:29:52,640 --> 02:29:56,640
Speaker 3: They sucked on the text. Which record you're talking about?

2965
02:29:56,720 --> 02:29:57,879
Speaker 3: Nobod out a pole.

2966
02:29:59,120 --> 02:30:03,840
Speaker 10: Enemy inside of people, datting people that's wid yes, no, no,

2967
02:30:04,160 --> 02:30:08,039
Speaker 10: I could dudes were getting you know that's wild yo.

2968
02:30:08,360 --> 02:30:13,039
Speaker 3: Yes, yo, Yo, nother funk all.

2969
02:30:13,000 --> 02:30:17,199
Speaker 1: That the original, the original fifty cent, his brother a Rock,

2970
02:30:17,360 --> 02:30:20,760
Speaker 1: all the Decepticons. When that record will go Vic and

2971
02:30:20,879 --> 02:30:24,240
Speaker 1: I was dancing with like ic Us the siren. Yeah, yo,

2972
02:30:25,040 --> 02:30:28,000
Speaker 1: call that sounds chaotic. They call that to kill the

2973
02:30:28,040 --> 02:30:32,200
Speaker 1: white man noise. Fifty don't you called it? Fifty cent?

2974
02:30:32,440 --> 02:30:34,720
Speaker 3: Would tap me the original fifty cent with me. Go

2975
02:30:34,840 --> 02:30:36,920
Speaker 3: get off the floor, search, get off the floor, go

2976
02:30:36,959 --> 02:30:42,039
Speaker 3: to the ball. Yes, yo, it was rap.

2977
02:30:43,720 --> 02:30:49,360
Speaker 5: That and ghosts probablys and and ultra magnetic Wow, antip villain,

2978
02:30:49,520 --> 02:30:51,880
Speaker 5: top billing, top billion would do it.

2979
02:30:52,400 --> 02:30:58,160
Speaker 3: It's a terrible era. It will great. I mean it

2980
02:30:58,280 --> 02:31:00,920
Speaker 3: was the greatest error ever. I would go back to

2981
02:31:01,040 --> 02:31:04,119
Speaker 3: that story light video. Look they pulled you up immediately.

2982
02:31:05,720 --> 02:31:10,720
Speaker 19: Yeah, right then, oh ship that is you look at

2983
02:31:10,800 --> 02:31:14,840
Speaker 19: you when you yeah, and the funny thing is on

2984
02:31:14,959 --> 02:31:17,600
Speaker 19: the same way there than I am now.

2985
02:31:18,320 --> 02:31:20,000
Speaker 3: Like literally, I'm in the best shape of my life.

2986
02:31:20,360 --> 02:31:25,320
Speaker 3: Shout out the shout out to my man.

2987
02:31:26,000 --> 02:31:27,600
Speaker 5: And the cold Crush is the most healthy man in

2988
02:31:27,680 --> 02:31:28,640
Speaker 5: hip hop, like.

2989
02:31:29,320 --> 02:31:35,520
Speaker 3: The health and hip hop. Oh yeah, we see ham

2990
02:31:35,680 --> 02:31:47,160
Speaker 3: over in the ice. M uh. You know, honestly, I'm

2991
02:31:47,200 --> 02:31:50,080
Speaker 3: gonna go with MC Hammer. I guy to pick Tom hamml.

2992
02:31:50,200 --> 02:31:53,280
Speaker 3: I gotta go Hammer because you know, because you can

2993
02:31:53,320 --> 02:31:53,680
Speaker 3: say what you.

2994
02:31:53,680 --> 02:31:57,320
Speaker 1: Want about Hammer, but Hamma legitimately like cared about the culture.

2995
02:31:59,640 --> 02:32:01,280
Speaker 1: Like one of the things that I love that Chuck

2996
02:32:01,320 --> 02:32:03,840
Speaker 1: Dy's wife used to say all the time, which Chucky's

2997
02:32:04,040 --> 02:32:06,760
Speaker 1: would always say that Hammer is the only rap artist

2998
02:32:06,800 --> 02:32:07,680
Speaker 1: that plays in my house.

2999
02:32:09,080 --> 02:32:11,360
Speaker 3: I respect Hammer like a motherfucker bro to be honest

3000
02:32:11,360 --> 02:32:16,320
Speaker 3: with you, I think because he didn't play hip hop

3001
02:32:16,360 --> 02:32:16,720
Speaker 3: in the house.

3002
02:32:16,720 --> 02:32:19,160
Speaker 1: She wouldn't even play public Enemy, but she played see Hammer,

3003
02:32:21,360 --> 02:32:26,320
Speaker 1: meaning meaning that for her Hammer's music and how he's

3004
02:32:26,360 --> 02:32:28,879
Speaker 1: safe for the kids, and just it felt like.

3005
02:32:29,400 --> 02:32:31,080
Speaker 3: Music that the whole family could enjoy.

3006
02:32:31,840 --> 02:32:34,960
Speaker 5: I remember Hammer said some ship like Yo hotown three

3007
02:32:35,000 --> 02:32:37,040
Speaker 5: five seven so more on third base, third base went

3008
02:32:37,080 --> 02:32:37,920
Speaker 5: double wood.

3009
02:32:37,840 --> 02:32:40,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, double wood, we went double yeah. Let's not forget

3010
02:32:40,240 --> 02:32:45,040
Speaker 10: Hammer was a real last dude too. His brother brother,

3011
02:32:45,160 --> 02:32:48,760
Speaker 10: his brother Louis Barrell. Yeah, Louis Barrell Hammon said with

3012
02:32:48,920 --> 02:32:49,680
Speaker 10: double wood.

3013
02:32:49,600 --> 02:32:55,320
Speaker 3: Double wood. Yeah, he said, we went doublet three five

3014
02:32:55,400 --> 02:32:57,200
Speaker 3: seven soul More Records at the third base of it,

3015
02:32:57,280 --> 02:32:58,240
Speaker 3: did we went double wood?

3016
02:33:00,040 --> 02:33:02,800
Speaker 5: Shout out to him, yeah, man, shout out to still

3017
02:33:03,080 --> 02:33:05,520
Speaker 5: the Holy Ghost Boys who got boot off the stage

3018
02:33:05,520 --> 02:33:06,240
Speaker 5: of the lack of Quarter.

3019
02:33:06,600 --> 02:33:08,560
Speaker 3: Who's that that was? That was his his group.

3020
02:33:08,760 --> 02:33:11,240
Speaker 5: His new music seminar I think was eighty seven eighty seven,

3021
02:33:11,320 --> 02:33:13,320
Speaker 5: he performed at the Line Quarter Paradise will tell you.

3022
02:33:15,120 --> 02:33:25,000
Speaker 3: Wow, but no remorse for vential lies that on the

3023
02:33:25,320 --> 02:33:30,840
Speaker 3: fuck it Yeah, pick drink, go ahead.

3024
02:33:31,120 --> 02:33:34,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, I actually think the lies actually cares about hip

3025
02:33:34,959 --> 02:33:35,480
Speaker 10: hop as well?

3026
02:33:36,240 --> 02:33:42,320
Speaker 3: Is his name Pappy Robert van Winkle? Oh, I know

3027
02:33:42,440 --> 02:33:44,560
Speaker 3: as I heard. You don't think you know I used

3028
02:33:44,560 --> 02:33:47,200
Speaker 3: to love you, n like I love you. You don't

3029
02:33:47,200 --> 02:33:48,920
Speaker 3: think he cares how long we go back?

3030
02:33:49,040 --> 02:33:52,480
Speaker 5: You know, I don't think I heard that Vanellas has

3031
02:33:52,560 --> 02:33:56,080
Speaker 5: a house that's an entrance to another house, so that

3032
02:33:56,440 --> 02:33:57,160
Speaker 5: you know whoa.

3033
02:33:57,280 --> 02:33:59,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means.

3034
02:33:59,040 --> 02:34:00,920
Speaker 5: You got a lot of big house, you know, a

3035
02:34:00,959 --> 02:34:02,400
Speaker 5: lot of so he doesn't care about.

3036
02:34:04,200 --> 02:34:06,320
Speaker 3: Okay, we made friends with hand and let's make friends

3037
02:34:06,360 --> 02:34:07,240
Speaker 3: with No.

3038
02:34:07,400 --> 02:34:11,400
Speaker 1: That's fine, you want to to I'm just saying no, no, no,

3039
02:34:13,120 --> 02:34:18,879
Speaker 1: if I'm toasting, no, no, no, it's not a problem.

3040
02:34:18,959 --> 02:34:21,160
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with any human being anymore.

3041
02:34:21,240 --> 02:34:23,520
Speaker 3: Like literally, I have no problems with anyone. It's not

3042
02:34:23,959 --> 02:34:25,800
Speaker 3: a problem. But you don't you really don't think that

3043
02:34:25,879 --> 02:34:29,080
Speaker 3: he ever cared about hip hop? Absolutely? No, really absolutely

3044
02:34:29,160 --> 02:34:31,360
Speaker 3: you think that was all a gimmick. I believe that

3045
02:34:31,680 --> 02:34:34,640
Speaker 3: he saw an opportunity and he took it. Really, you

3046
02:34:34,640 --> 02:34:37,400
Speaker 3: don't think he ever cared as a human being about

3047
02:34:37,400 --> 02:34:40,040
Speaker 3: I don't think he understood what the culture was that

3048
02:34:41,600 --> 02:34:48,400
Speaker 3: you still he wants to drink. He's feeling, he's with

3049
02:34:48,560 --> 02:34:51,200
Speaker 3: his man. The legendary d m X is d J

3050
02:34:51,320 --> 02:34:58,200
Speaker 3: d j LS one is here. He's having. We got

3051
02:34:58,200 --> 02:35:05,760
Speaker 3: another legendary DJ cups in. You know, a lot of

3052
02:35:06,160 --> 02:35:07,840
Speaker 3: legends in him. Man we behold.

3053
02:35:08,320 --> 02:35:10,080
Speaker 1: So we say that he doesn't give him you know,

3054
02:35:10,440 --> 02:35:13,959
Speaker 1: let me ask you though in fitness, because I really

3055
02:35:14,040 --> 02:35:17,400
Speaker 1: did like that starts words just be you don't think

3056
02:35:17,680 --> 02:35:20,600
Speaker 1: but not an ice kid about hip hop at one point.

3057
02:35:20,520 --> 02:35:22,080
Speaker 3: Not even a little bit, a little bit, a little

3058
02:35:22,080 --> 02:35:23,880
Speaker 3: bit a bit.

3059
02:35:24,600 --> 02:35:26,240
Speaker 5: I mean when that when that record came out, I

3060
02:35:26,320 --> 02:35:29,160
Speaker 5: think the first time we heard Ice Ice Baby, we

3061
02:35:29,280 --> 02:35:30,400
Speaker 5: went that Detroit.

3062
02:35:30,160 --> 02:35:33,320
Speaker 3: Station dancing a little bit to it. He was like

3063
02:35:34,080 --> 02:35:36,160
Speaker 3: the Detroit station where you have to go all the

3064
02:35:36,160 --> 02:35:38,879
Speaker 3: way up on the building, like the sixtieth floor that station,

3065
02:35:40,600 --> 02:35:42,400
Speaker 3: And oh you did you did?

3066
02:35:42,680 --> 02:35:45,520
Speaker 5: One thing about that record is the sample is dope.

3067
02:35:45,600 --> 02:35:49,360
Speaker 5: That's something that we would have flipped David Bowie super away.

3068
02:35:49,360 --> 02:35:51,520
Speaker 3: You're kind of mad, like ah, he grabbed that ship.

3069
02:35:51,760 --> 02:35:54,000
Speaker 1: But the thing was he didn't take credit for it,

3070
02:35:54,040 --> 02:35:58,080
Speaker 1: which makes him super wacky. He didn't take an interview samples.

3071
02:35:58,280 --> 02:36:01,879
Speaker 1: He said, oh the David Bowie s call clean doom doom,

3072
02:36:02,600 --> 02:36:04,640
Speaker 1: my ship goes doom, doom doom.

3073
02:36:05,879 --> 02:36:06,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that was why.

3074
02:36:09,520 --> 02:36:12,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, but again that's if we're talking about the same

3075
02:36:12,520 --> 02:36:14,960
Speaker 10: we were talking about poking Big as a young man.

3076
02:36:15,080 --> 02:36:17,240
Speaker 3: Maybe he was just ignorant that went.

3077
02:36:17,400 --> 02:36:23,120
Speaker 1: But again, again my perspective, when you show growth, right,

3078
02:36:23,160 --> 02:36:27,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I have to quote chub Rock, because

3079
02:36:27,959 --> 02:36:30,760
Speaker 1: chub Rock, the great prophet, the best vogue, first ever

3080
02:36:31,520 --> 02:36:32,360
Speaker 1: creaking on the grill.

3081
02:36:33,600 --> 02:36:34,959
Speaker 3: You know what he said in the grill?

3082
02:36:35,320 --> 02:36:38,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, he said he could wrap his lips around something.

3083
02:36:39,040 --> 02:36:41,800
Speaker 3: Right, I'll leave it at that, and we'll leave I mean,

3084
02:36:41,840 --> 02:36:45,320
Speaker 3: don't leave it at that. No, no, no, no, weird

3085
02:36:45,400 --> 02:36:48,800
Speaker 3: no no no. But the point is he got weird. Again.

3086
02:36:49,040 --> 02:36:50,800
Speaker 5: Listen, Treuve Rock's verse on that record is one of

3087
02:36:50,800 --> 02:36:53,840
Speaker 5: the most underrated verses all time, without questions, but but

3088
02:36:53,920 --> 02:36:56,039
Speaker 5: shout out to Trevor Rock, one of the most underrated

3089
02:36:56,240 --> 02:36:57,000
Speaker 5: seas of all time.

3090
02:37:00,560 --> 02:37:06,600
Speaker 3: So I just think that, like when you look at.

3091
02:37:08,920 --> 02:37:15,360
Speaker 1: Again my perspective, I owe this culture everything like not

3092
02:37:16,080 --> 02:37:19,960
Speaker 1: just like I would be selling shoes at Nordstrom, Like

3093
02:37:20,320 --> 02:37:23,240
Speaker 1: I would not have a life, right, I would not

3094
02:37:23,400 --> 02:37:27,560
Speaker 1: have Echo. I wouldn't have had new Vaute, nothing, nothing.

3095
02:37:28,120 --> 02:37:31,000
Speaker 1: I would have been a shoe salesman period in a conversation,

3096
02:37:31,160 --> 02:37:33,320
Speaker 1: or a chicken delivery or a chicken delivery gun. I

3097
02:37:33,360 --> 02:37:36,720
Speaker 1: would have been delivering pizza. I delivered chicken. I had

3098
02:37:36,840 --> 02:37:41,680
Speaker 1: no skills. Hip hop gave me my life. Pop Goesluisa

3099
02:37:41,800 --> 02:37:44,240
Speaker 1: was such an important record for us, not because we

3100
02:37:44,400 --> 02:37:48,000
Speaker 1: wanted a pop record, there was an intent to that record.

3101
02:37:48,640 --> 02:37:51,280
Speaker 1: Hip Hop got turned into hip hop. The second record

3102
02:37:51,360 --> 02:37:53,360
Speaker 1: was number one on the Pop Tart. But don't skid

3103
02:37:53,440 --> 02:37:55,080
Speaker 1: on the heart that got it started in the ghetto.

3104
02:37:55,160 --> 02:37:57,440
Speaker 1: Let no one forget about the hard part. Now, when

3105
02:37:57,520 --> 02:37:59,320
Speaker 1: ninety one we got a new band, a new brand

3106
02:37:59,360 --> 02:38:02,560
Speaker 1: looking like the aim Old Clan Samuel Thieves to Steve,

3107
02:38:02,800 --> 02:38:04,640
Speaker 1: we got to make sure the real rappers got to

3108
02:38:04,800 --> 02:38:07,920
Speaker 1: endure Watco on points in one period, appear in a

3109
02:38:08,000 --> 02:38:09,600
Speaker 1: complex structure like a pyramid.

3110
02:38:10,000 --> 02:38:10,120
Speaker 13: Bro.

3111
02:38:10,720 --> 02:38:13,440
Speaker 3: We cared that much that we were like, oh, let's

3112
02:38:13,480 --> 02:38:14,160
Speaker 3: take the most.

3113
02:38:14,120 --> 02:38:18,360
Speaker 1: Obvious record, go to pop stations and tell them about

3114
02:38:18,480 --> 02:38:20,160
Speaker 1: thirty fucking recosition.

3115
02:38:21,280 --> 02:38:22,879
Speaker 3: Fuck us, forget about us.

3116
02:38:23,040 --> 02:38:25,560
Speaker 1: We would come with Daylight, we would come with Naughty,

3117
02:38:25,600 --> 02:38:27,200
Speaker 1: we would come with Black Sheep, we would come with

3118
02:38:27,280 --> 02:38:29,600
Speaker 1: Queen Latifa. We'd come with Money, Money in the Middle.

3119
02:38:29,800 --> 02:38:32,160
Speaker 1: We'd come with Chubb Rock Special Led. We go to

3120
02:38:32,240 --> 02:38:34,600
Speaker 1: the Z one hundreds, we go to the Bezzs in

3121
02:38:34,720 --> 02:38:37,879
Speaker 1: fucking Pittsburgh. We go to Kiss FM in La biggest

3122
02:38:37,879 --> 02:38:40,400
Speaker 1: pop stations in the world. We're number two, number one

3123
02:38:40,800 --> 02:38:43,680
Speaker 1: most requests, and be like, here's about thirty fucking records

3124
02:38:43,720 --> 02:38:47,160
Speaker 1: you should be playing. Don't play Mocky Mark, and I mean,

3125
02:38:47,240 --> 02:38:51,879
Speaker 1: I love Mark Wolberg, don't Here's one hundred other records, right, And.

3126
02:38:51,920 --> 02:38:53,920
Speaker 3: They're like, haha, here's been the lies.

3127
02:38:54,959 --> 02:38:57,560
Speaker 5: But also we respect all the people came before us

3128
02:38:57,640 --> 02:39:00,640
Speaker 5: who late n foundation. I mean when we did Rapmania

3129
02:39:01,200 --> 02:39:05,800
Speaker 5: in nineteen ninety where with her Lovebug Stars right and

3130
02:39:06,040 --> 02:39:10,520
Speaker 5: all the cubs. Boy, that was And they considered that

3131
02:39:10,680 --> 02:39:14,080
Speaker 5: the fifteenth anniversary hip hop in nineteen ninety, saying that

3132
02:39:14,160 --> 02:39:17,240
Speaker 5: it started in seventy five, like Ban Bada heard Van

3133
02:39:17,320 --> 02:39:18,240
Speaker 5: Silk and then got together.

3134
02:39:18,240 --> 02:39:20,320
Speaker 20: They said, seventy five is the starting day in the

3135
02:39:20,360 --> 02:39:23,480
Speaker 20: street and break you know, yeah, yo, And so so

3136
02:39:23,600 --> 02:39:25,560
Speaker 20: it's like, Yo, so, how you're gonna have a dude

3137
02:39:26,440 --> 02:39:28,440
Speaker 20: who's like and then he.

3138
02:39:28,440 --> 02:39:30,640
Speaker 1: Says he's from one place, but he's from another, Like

3139
02:39:31,200 --> 02:39:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, you talked about it like a little while ago,

3140
02:39:33,080 --> 02:39:35,760
Speaker 1: we were talking about like, you know, really repping where

3141
02:39:35,800 --> 02:39:36,200
Speaker 1: you're from.

3142
02:39:37,920 --> 02:39:39,360
Speaker 3: There was no authenticity there.

3143
02:39:39,800 --> 02:39:42,640
Speaker 1: And then like four years later he's got dreads and

3144
02:39:42,720 --> 02:39:44,480
Speaker 1: he's trying to make a record about Colts.

3145
02:39:44,600 --> 02:39:46,320
Speaker 3: Come on, man, stop that bullshit.

3146
02:39:46,480 --> 02:39:48,920
Speaker 1: Man, Like just it's because and at that point there

3147
02:39:48,959 --> 02:39:52,000
Speaker 1: was so much great hip hop out Redman, Method Man,

3148
02:39:52,120 --> 02:39:55,400
Speaker 1: Wu Tang Nah's Biggie most just came out.

3149
02:39:56,959 --> 02:39:57,359
Speaker 3: Anyway.

3150
02:39:57,480 --> 02:40:00,920
Speaker 1: I just think that like there was a level of

3151
02:40:01,040 --> 02:40:05,360
Speaker 1: credibility that just never he never ascended to. And great

3152
02:40:05,440 --> 02:40:08,320
Speaker 1: he hit a lick, but good for him. It's kind

3153
02:40:08,320 --> 02:40:12,080
Speaker 1: of all worth it. With the Shug Night story, yeah, I.

3154
02:40:12,120 --> 02:40:20,600
Speaker 3: Forgot and he is worth it. Just it keeps changing

3155
02:40:20,720 --> 02:40:21,800
Speaker 3: even to Yeah.

3156
02:40:21,920 --> 02:40:24,119
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, like, for me, when you look

3157
02:40:24,160 --> 02:40:27,120
Speaker 1: at like artists, right, and you look at artists overall,

3158
02:40:28,640 --> 02:40:31,280
Speaker 1: you want them to have some credibility, right, some integrity

3159
02:40:31,360 --> 02:40:33,080
Speaker 1: when they do what they do.

3160
02:40:33,920 --> 02:40:38,000
Speaker 2: M hmm, I don't leave it at dead. So you

3161
02:40:38,520 --> 02:40:41,920
Speaker 2: now that you're leave it at debt m J m

3162
02:40:42,520 --> 02:40:44,920
Speaker 2: g K or insane cloud box.

3163
02:40:45,400 --> 02:40:49,320
Speaker 3: Oh m g k K m g K m g K.

3164
02:40:50,640 --> 02:40:51,920
Speaker 5: I wasn't none of that ship.

3165
02:40:56,800 --> 02:40:57,000
Speaker 16: Yet.

3166
02:40:57,240 --> 02:41:00,240
Speaker 3: And there it is best answer. Take a shot, just

3167
02:41:00,280 --> 02:41:05,440
Speaker 3: goes down with yeah, that was just Yeah. You might

3168
02:41:05,520 --> 02:41:11,000
Speaker 3: have to add drinking. Actually, I think that should be official,

3169
02:41:11,040 --> 02:41:12,880
Speaker 3: like a rough of the whistle moving forward. I don't.

3170
02:41:14,680 --> 02:41:17,959
Speaker 3: It's a part of the show. Now all right, that's

3171
02:41:17,959 --> 02:41:22,280
Speaker 3: straight from Beverly Road. Um, hey man, you took my

3172
02:41:22,320 --> 02:41:24,520
Speaker 3: words out of them up, that's what she said. You

3173
02:41:25,200 --> 02:41:26,480
Speaker 3: took my man?

3174
02:41:26,520 --> 02:41:37,000
Speaker 21: You or Buster Rungs? Yeah, jesus, yeah, I'm both. Oh

3175
02:41:37,320 --> 02:41:42,320
Speaker 21: we figured that. Wow, let's ask you for It's tough.

3176
02:41:42,200 --> 02:41:44,480
Speaker 5: For me because Rosenberg and Eminem were donating one of

3177
02:41:44,520 --> 02:41:46,800
Speaker 5: the rat boy costumes to the hip hop you got.

3178
02:41:47,879 --> 02:41:51,680
Speaker 3: I have a little like conflicted right there.

3179
02:41:51,840 --> 02:41:56,880
Speaker 5: You know, well, I think your boy Jonathan Manion has

3180
02:41:56,959 --> 02:41:59,039
Speaker 5: some of Buster's dreads.

3181
02:41:58,920 --> 02:42:01,840
Speaker 3: That we do in the music him. He does got

3182
02:42:01,959 --> 02:42:04,879
Speaker 3: dreads from Jonathan Manyon from Buster. Yeah, so you got

3183
02:42:05,800 --> 02:42:08,160
Speaker 3: bird tie. I'm to say a tie there. Okay, now

3184
02:42:08,280 --> 02:42:11,879
Speaker 3: now tie no ties in runs.

3185
02:42:14,760 --> 02:42:14,960
Speaker 10: Drink?

3186
02:42:15,920 --> 02:42:19,360
Speaker 3: What do you mean we're not drinking versus because you

3187
02:42:19,440 --> 02:42:25,600
Speaker 3: cannot say anything. You're the summer guy. That's exactly right.

3188
02:42:25,640 --> 02:42:29,960
Speaker 3: I want to I want to watch drunk a try

3189
02:42:30,120 --> 02:42:34,720
Speaker 3: called quest or brand newbie. Fuck you whoa get the word?

3190
02:42:35,360 --> 02:42:36,960
Speaker 3: I love this guy. You know what I'm saying. I

3191
02:42:37,280 --> 02:42:37,760
Speaker 3: love this guy.

3192
02:42:38,000 --> 02:42:48,200
Speaker 18: That's okay, Jesus, I mean try Trump Queens got said

3193
02:42:48,280 --> 02:42:51,600
Speaker 18: drive okay, okay, and.

3194
02:42:51,640 --> 02:42:58,400
Speaker 3: It's really hard to because that's what she said. Let's

3195
02:42:58,440 --> 02:43:18,560
Speaker 3: be almost Yeah, bro, well deserved, well done. I got

3196
02:43:18,640 --> 02:43:23,320
Speaker 3: this one. No, of course you do, doctor Dre, or.

3197
02:43:26,760 --> 02:43:30,879
Speaker 10: Any criteria and if you got us wow, any criteria

3198
02:43:32,080 --> 02:43:33,600
Speaker 10: and you can't answer first.

3199
02:43:34,200 --> 02:43:38,120
Speaker 3: They go to you, God, bless you, God bless you.

3200
02:43:38,480 --> 02:43:42,440
Speaker 3: Do you love me time?

3201
02:43:43,280 --> 02:43:50,880
Speaker 22: Okay, Jesus, Christy answer first? Okay, So now I'm the tiebreaker, right,

3202
02:43:53,000 --> 02:43:58,000
Speaker 22: so be it, doctor Dred, Doctor Dre. I don't think

3203
02:43:58,040 --> 02:43:58,480
Speaker 22: we don't.

3204
02:44:00,040 --> 02:44:03,520
Speaker 3: All right. Last one, you got it, buddy, loyalty or respect.

3205
02:44:10,200 --> 02:44:17,080
Speaker 1: My perspective, oh father, the way my father raised me

3206
02:44:17,160 --> 02:44:23,480
Speaker 1: may rest in peace is you cannot have loyalty without respect.

3207
02:44:25,520 --> 02:44:28,040
Speaker 1: You can have respect without loyalty, but you can't have

3208
02:44:28,200 --> 02:44:29,200
Speaker 1: loyalty without respect.

3209
02:44:30,200 --> 02:44:34,160
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say loyal I would say recipe. I'll

3210
02:44:34,200 --> 02:44:37,400
Speaker 3: go along with search on that one. I'll go along

3211
02:44:37,480 --> 02:44:40,720
Speaker 3: with it me. If we're going to take a shot.

3212
02:44:41,440 --> 02:44:48,120
Speaker 3: We believe that it's both. You always believe respect for

3213
02:44:48,160 --> 02:44:48,520
Speaker 3: your pots.

3214
02:44:48,560 --> 02:44:48,680
Speaker 5: Man.

3215
02:44:48,720 --> 02:44:52,199
Speaker 3: I love your pots, bro, because you can respect somebody

3216
02:44:52,280 --> 02:44:55,280
Speaker 3: but not be loyal to absolutely. But you can't have

3217
02:44:55,400 --> 02:44:56,400
Speaker 3: loyalty without respect.

3218
02:44:56,520 --> 02:44:58,400
Speaker 1: The one thing all of you guys have, all of

3219
02:44:58,480 --> 02:45:01,720
Speaker 1: y'all all ye, because I've been around all of y'all,

3220
02:45:02,600 --> 02:45:06,080
Speaker 1: is you have loyalty and the respect is built in.

3221
02:45:10,720 --> 02:45:12,640
Speaker 3: And that's why we came here first. So let me

3222
02:45:12,680 --> 02:45:13,160
Speaker 3: ask you, thank you.

3223
02:45:14,040 --> 02:45:16,280
Speaker 10: Hold hold up, thank you guys for coming here first.

3224
02:45:16,400 --> 02:45:23,440
Speaker 3: Goddamn, let me go quick use search. Let me ask

3225
02:45:23,480 --> 02:45:27,240
Speaker 3: you about rape. Whoa, whoa. I know what he's talking about.

3226
02:45:31,440 --> 02:45:33,960
Speaker 3: What I want to talk about rappers against phony entertainers.

3227
02:45:34,840 --> 02:45:42,400
Speaker 3: That's what she says, no outside, So so there's two stories.

3228
02:45:42,600 --> 02:45:45,240
Speaker 1: There's two great stories about that, right, So what he's

3229
02:45:45,280 --> 02:45:48,680
Speaker 1: talking about for those who don't know, on my my record, pod,

3230
02:45:49,959 --> 02:45:53,560
Speaker 1: I said I got a squad, right, A bunch of

3231
02:45:53,640 --> 02:46:00,920
Speaker 1: entertainers started rape rappers against phony entertainers. The label call

3232
02:46:01,040 --> 02:46:04,240
Speaker 1: me especially a couple of female executives, and said you

3233
02:46:04,360 --> 02:46:07,199
Speaker 1: cannot say rape on the record. I said, I didn't

3234
02:46:07,200 --> 02:46:10,240
Speaker 1: say rape on the record. I said rappers against Phony Entertainers.

3235
02:46:10,280 --> 02:46:15,360
Speaker 1: On the record, I used an acronym or ape. They're like, yeah,

3236
02:46:15,400 --> 02:46:17,480
Speaker 1: but you don't spell it out. Pardon but you don't

3237
02:46:17,520 --> 02:46:19,520
Speaker 1: spell it out. I said, I don't have to spell

3238
02:46:19,560 --> 02:46:23,080
Speaker 1: it out. I explained it on the next line. So

3239
02:46:24,320 --> 02:46:29,200
Speaker 1: fast forward a thousand years. I'm the first MC ever

3240
02:46:29,280 --> 02:46:34,400
Speaker 1: to perform at EPCOTCOT in Orlando. In Orlando, doing the

3241
02:46:34,400 --> 02:46:39,560
Speaker 1: Food and Wine Festival. It's a nice bag and they're like,

3242
02:46:40,040 --> 02:46:43,320
Speaker 1: we need you do one thing. You can't say rape.

3243
02:46:44,959 --> 02:46:47,560
Speaker 1: I said, no problem, I said, I started a group

3244
02:46:48,080 --> 02:46:49,600
Speaker 1: called Rappers Against Phony Entertainments.

3245
02:46:49,680 --> 02:46:54,160
Speaker 3: Right, So that's a so that so that that's what And.

3246
02:46:54,240 --> 02:46:58,280
Speaker 1: That's always been one of those things that when people

3247
02:46:58,480 --> 02:47:03,600
Speaker 1: hear it, they feel some type of way until I

3248
02:47:03,920 --> 02:47:06,800
Speaker 1: explain it, right. That's exactly why I asked the question

3249
02:47:06,879 --> 02:47:09,200
Speaker 1: that way, right, No, so people feel some type of way.

3250
02:47:09,879 --> 02:47:12,080
Speaker 1: But the second thing was the second thing though, that

3251
02:47:12,240 --> 02:47:18,080
Speaker 1: was really critical on this right derelicts a dialect speak

3252
02:47:18,080 --> 02:47:21,320
Speaker 1: came up with this idea of us being disheveled, right,

3253
02:47:21,440 --> 02:47:25,520
Speaker 1: looking like we fucking derelicts. The label said, no, that

3254
02:47:25,600 --> 02:47:28,000
Speaker 1: can't be the album covered. This could be a promo cover.

3255
02:47:28,080 --> 02:47:28,920
Speaker 1: Can't be the album cover.

3256
02:47:29,440 --> 02:47:32,600
Speaker 23: They're talking about this specific cover. He said, why, he said,

3257
02:47:32,879 --> 02:47:40,040
Speaker 23: it'll turn away your I'll get you, I promise.

3258
02:47:40,959 --> 02:47:42,840
Speaker 1: He just so on.

3259
02:47:46,520 --> 02:47:47,000
Speaker 3: My stuff.

3260
02:47:49,560 --> 02:47:52,039
Speaker 1: But the lab so, the label said it'll scare away.

3261
02:47:52,120 --> 02:47:56,160
Speaker 1: The Impulse Buyers album went golden thirty days.

3262
02:47:56,640 --> 02:47:56,879
Speaker 3: Wow.

3263
02:47:58,360 --> 02:48:00,280
Speaker 1: So there was two things like and and you know,

3264
02:48:00,360 --> 02:48:03,040
Speaker 1: when I hear like the Kanyes of the world, or

3265
02:48:03,080 --> 02:48:04,959
Speaker 1: I hear the you know, the Drakes of the world,

3266
02:48:05,080 --> 02:48:07,000
Speaker 1: or I hear the kid Cuddings of the world. And

3267
02:48:07,120 --> 02:48:10,680
Speaker 1: when they say the label told me and I did blank,

3268
02:48:10,760 --> 02:48:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, good for you. Because labels don't know. They'd

3269
02:48:15,600 --> 02:48:17,560
Speaker 1: like to believe to play it safe like they know,

3270
02:48:17,720 --> 02:48:20,440
Speaker 1: but they don't know. The artist has to have the intuition.

3271
02:48:21,080 --> 02:48:24,080
Speaker 1: He had this intuition and was great that we should

3272
02:48:24,080 --> 02:48:25,840
Speaker 1: be there looks a dialogue, we should be homeless. We

3273
02:48:25,879 --> 02:48:28,520
Speaker 1: were in make up for how long.

3274
02:48:28,480 --> 02:48:31,240
Speaker 5: Was five or six for Saturday and live Yeah did

3275
02:48:31,280 --> 02:48:32,960
Speaker 5: the makeup for us and it was great.

3276
02:48:33,040 --> 02:48:35,320
Speaker 1: And we're playing in the cold and like having a

3277
02:48:35,360 --> 02:48:40,320
Speaker 1: good time and enjoying like the moment of like that, right,

3278
02:48:41,320 --> 02:48:44,320
Speaker 1: But to know that this dude who is the senior

3279
02:48:44,440 --> 02:48:47,080
Speaker 1: VP of marketing, and oh, I'm the big guy getting this,

3280
02:48:47,480 --> 02:48:50,000
Speaker 1: you know whatever, And we can't put this record out

3281
02:48:51,280 --> 02:48:52,120
Speaker 1: golden thirty days.

3282
02:48:52,200 --> 02:48:55,040
Speaker 3: Now what you gotta say? How about you go do

3283
02:48:55,120 --> 02:48:59,160
Speaker 3: your job? Wow? And we had a number one and

3284
02:48:59,240 --> 02:49:01,520
Speaker 3: we almost had a more one pop record with a

3285
02:49:01,600 --> 02:49:04,400
Speaker 3: record that said like we started rape Roberts against fortieth

3286
02:49:04,400 --> 02:49:08,680
Speaker 3: to say Jesus Christmas, and it played on fucking pop

3287
02:49:08,760 --> 02:49:09,400
Speaker 3: stations all.

3288
02:49:09,320 --> 02:49:11,920
Speaker 5: Over the country and we pretty much broke up in

3289
02:49:11,959 --> 02:49:14,600
Speaker 5: the middle of it right at the people because they

3290
02:49:14,640 --> 02:49:16,400
Speaker 5: were trying to push us just had rape.

3291
02:49:16,440 --> 02:49:18,000
Speaker 3: They were trying to push they were trying to push

3292
02:49:18,160 --> 02:49:20,320
Speaker 3: us more pop. They were trying to put us on

3293
02:49:20,360 --> 02:49:20,760
Speaker 3: all rape.

3294
02:49:21,480 --> 02:49:23,480
Speaker 5: You know, we would show up on the pop station

3295
02:49:23,800 --> 02:49:27,720
Speaker 5: and kind of flip on the host or whatever.

3296
02:49:27,920 --> 02:49:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just slip on the home like here's an

3297
02:49:31,400 --> 02:49:33,840
Speaker 3: all format. Yeah, we're like, yo play this.

3298
02:49:34,680 --> 02:49:36,840
Speaker 1: Like when we were out ninety one kind of kick

3299
02:49:36,879 --> 02:49:39,520
Speaker 1: it was huge, your fucking black sheet choices yours and

3300
02:49:39,600 --> 02:49:40,199
Speaker 1: they weren't.

3301
02:49:39,959 --> 02:49:40,560
Speaker 3: Playing that shot.

3302
02:49:40,600 --> 02:49:42,560
Speaker 5: So we were like and even like we were gold,

3303
02:49:42,600 --> 02:49:44,200
Speaker 5: they were so hard to go gold back then. Like

3304
02:49:44,240 --> 02:49:47,840
Speaker 5: people don't even realize tribe used to.

3305
02:49:47,879 --> 02:49:52,480
Speaker 1: Open for us, like it's ridiculous, and now it's like, yo,

3306
02:49:52,600 --> 02:49:56,920
Speaker 1: why these are hit records and they're like, haha, we're

3307
02:49:56,959 --> 02:49:57,640
Speaker 1: gonna play.

3308
02:49:59,320 --> 02:50:03,240
Speaker 3: Some bullshit. But now how ninety seven is now I

3309
02:50:03,280 --> 02:50:04,640
Speaker 3: think technically a pop station.

3310
02:50:06,040 --> 02:50:09,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like we've we've grown

3311
02:50:09,520 --> 02:50:11,400
Speaker 1: in such a way and the culture has grown in

3312
02:50:11,480 --> 02:50:14,960
Speaker 1: such a way where the things that we had to

3313
02:50:15,000 --> 02:50:18,879
Speaker 1: worry about no longer are worries, right, the challenges that.

3314
02:50:18,920 --> 02:50:21,040
Speaker 3: We had to have are no longer challenges.

3315
02:50:21,840 --> 02:50:23,879
Speaker 1: And the thing is so funny is thirty five years later,

3316
02:50:23,920 --> 02:50:25,879
Speaker 1: when I talked to like, you know, Big Daddy Kane

3317
02:50:25,920 --> 02:50:28,720
Speaker 1: and EPMD and Public Enemy and all the groups that

3318
02:50:28,760 --> 02:50:32,000
Speaker 1: are out and there touring, they talk about how much

3319
02:50:32,000 --> 02:50:33,000
Speaker 1: fun they're having on the road.

3320
02:50:33,080 --> 02:50:34,720
Speaker 3: Now they're talking about like.

3321
02:50:34,840 --> 02:50:37,800
Speaker 1: Being this age and like enjoying being on the road

3322
02:50:37,840 --> 02:50:40,640
Speaker 1: and having fans that at this age who come out

3323
02:50:40,800 --> 02:50:41,720
Speaker 1: and they are.

3324
02:50:41,720 --> 02:50:44,760
Speaker 10: It's like freedom thing though as well, Bro, it's being

3325
02:50:44,920 --> 02:50:46,760
Speaker 10: free before now.

3326
02:50:47,520 --> 02:50:52,000
Speaker 3: And your home my lovell right, yeah, your home my love. Yeah. Yeah,

3327
02:50:52,560 --> 02:50:53,960
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I like it, you

3328
02:50:54,040 --> 02:50:54,560
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

3329
02:50:55,040 --> 02:51:01,360
Speaker 10: Let me ask you guys, KMD. You recently seeing Tyler

3330
02:51:01,440 --> 02:51:02,200
Speaker 10: pay homage.

3331
02:51:03,320 --> 02:51:08,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a peep beach MF Doom? What is

3332
02:51:08,480 --> 02:51:13,840
Speaker 3: that lineage to KMD? And then you have MF. Doom

3333
02:51:13,959 --> 02:51:18,800
Speaker 3: and then he passes and then he's this phenomenon. Now, well,

3334
02:51:19,000 --> 02:51:21,440
Speaker 3: I mean for me, I met Doom when he was

3335
02:51:21,480 --> 02:51:24,760
Speaker 3: fourteen years old, you know, I mean for people who

3336
02:51:24,800 --> 02:51:25,120
Speaker 3: don't know.

3337
02:51:25,600 --> 02:51:27,320
Speaker 10: Remember you're talking to us, No, no, no, all right,

3338
02:51:27,360 --> 02:51:29,960
Speaker 10: so you don't know what KMD is, right, So what

3339
02:51:30,120 --> 02:51:31,879
Speaker 10: that whole thing is with third base?

3340
02:51:32,040 --> 02:51:33,880
Speaker 3: Right? So even before third base?

3341
02:51:34,000 --> 02:51:36,400
Speaker 1: So when I had my solo record out Indie Records,

3342
02:51:36,480 --> 02:51:38,800
Speaker 1: I used to hang out Long Beach, Long Island, and

3343
02:51:38,879 --> 02:51:40,360
Speaker 1: I used to hang out with this kid I met.

3344
02:51:40,720 --> 02:51:44,320
Speaker 1: I met Brandon what Up and his man Otis and

3345
02:51:44,440 --> 02:51:48,280
Speaker 1: they had a whole crew called GYP, which became my crew,

3346
02:51:48,800 --> 02:51:52,480
Speaker 1: and it was mister hoodhim Diego, and then we would

3347
02:51:52,560 --> 02:51:55,920
Speaker 1: all go a haircut from this kid named sub Rock, right,

3348
02:51:56,360 --> 02:51:59,560
Speaker 1: and it was sub Rock and Daniel Dumalay aka Art

3349
02:52:00,000 --> 02:52:03,800
Speaker 1: and they were brothers, right, And Doom's name at the

3350
02:52:03,840 --> 02:52:06,560
Speaker 1: time was zeb Love X. So it's him it with

3351
02:52:06,600 --> 02:52:10,279
Speaker 1: sub Rock and the boy on ITX. And I always

3352
02:52:10,320 --> 02:52:12,960
Speaker 1: told them. When I get on, you get on. Like

3353
02:52:13,040 --> 02:52:15,760
Speaker 1: when I make it, you make it. So we had

3354
02:52:15,800 --> 02:52:19,440
Speaker 1: a term around our like little crew called a gas face,

3355
02:52:19,680 --> 02:52:22,200
Speaker 1: which was the face that girls made when we go

3356
02:52:22,320 --> 02:52:24,560
Speaker 1: to mall and try to get a number, and they

3357
02:52:24,600 --> 02:52:27,280
Speaker 1: would look at us like and we're like, damn, we

3358
02:52:27,320 --> 02:52:29,760
Speaker 1: spend all that gas money and get that face, right,

3359
02:52:29,760 --> 02:52:30,959
Speaker 1: And that's how we got That's how.

3360
02:52:30,920 --> 02:52:34,240
Speaker 10: It works that it's not they gave you the gas face.

3361
02:52:34,320 --> 02:52:37,120
Speaker 10: Is you spent the money on gas to get that face.

3362
02:52:37,240 --> 02:52:39,440
Speaker 1: Okay, that's how the and then we just kind of

3363
02:52:39,480 --> 02:52:41,760
Speaker 1: condensed it to gas I think admitted that it was

3364
02:52:41,760 --> 02:52:44,120
Speaker 1: another kid who first started using it.

3365
02:52:44,320 --> 02:52:46,320
Speaker 3: And then but that's not using it.

3366
02:52:46,920 --> 02:52:49,440
Speaker 5: But that's how that's where it came from. Started taking

3367
02:52:49,480 --> 02:52:51,560
Speaker 5: me out to Long Beach. But he he was going

3368
02:52:51,600 --> 02:52:54,879
Speaker 5: after Long Beach with doing with the MLK Center. That's

3369
02:52:54,920 --> 02:52:56,480
Speaker 5: where didn't you first meet with them?

3370
02:52:56,480 --> 02:52:57,840
Speaker 3: Ok? Center? Yeah, we all met it.

3371
02:52:58,320 --> 02:53:00,880
Speaker 5: And that ties into public enemy because Ray and Spectrum

3372
02:53:00,920 --> 02:53:02,880
Speaker 5: City were putting together those shows and T Money and

3373
02:53:02,920 --> 02:53:04,519
Speaker 5: all them MLK.

3374
02:53:04,440 --> 02:53:08,000
Speaker 1: Center, so Graham Master, Reggie REJ and the Playboy Club

3375
02:53:08,080 --> 02:53:09,720
Speaker 1: and like all these local like DJs.

3376
02:53:09,920 --> 02:53:12,480
Speaker 5: But you understand, these kids were mad young, So I

3377
02:53:12,520 --> 02:53:14,600
Speaker 5: don't think like search was hanging out with like twelve

3378
02:53:14,680 --> 02:53:18,080
Speaker 5: year old no, right.

3379
02:53:18,200 --> 02:53:19,800
Speaker 1: But I met a notice from my age, like I

3380
02:53:19,879 --> 02:53:22,680
Speaker 1: Med was like I was like the oldest one. Right,

3381
02:53:23,560 --> 02:53:29,240
Speaker 1: So we get on albums ninety nine percent done. First

3382
02:53:29,280 --> 02:53:31,800
Speaker 1: you put on we had a contract with a med notice.

3383
02:53:32,600 --> 02:53:35,480
Speaker 1: Remember that they had to finish school, right, and they

3384
02:53:35,520 --> 02:53:35,879
Speaker 1: were going.

3385
02:53:35,800 --> 02:53:37,560
Speaker 3: To be a dancer. You had a contract with cam

3386
02:53:37,680 --> 02:53:40,560
Speaker 3: Dy with a med notice from GYP.

3387
02:53:41,080 --> 02:53:43,280
Speaker 1: So it was a whole crew of them called GYP,

3388
02:53:43,720 --> 02:53:45,320
Speaker 1: and we were dancers like the back of this.

3389
02:53:45,760 --> 02:53:48,959
Speaker 3: So just understand the whole crew and involved. Cad Or came.

3390
02:53:49,080 --> 02:53:50,640
Speaker 3: Let me show you they were all together. See this.

3391
02:53:50,840 --> 02:53:53,680
Speaker 3: You see this cover right, this was on Med's basements.

3392
02:53:53,879 --> 02:53:57,200
Speaker 3: This is GYP. That's GYP. This is old GYP. The

3393
02:53:57,240 --> 02:53:58,800
Speaker 3: people behind you old GYP.

3394
02:53:59,160 --> 02:54:08,720
Speaker 1: Right and right here is Onyx and there's Doom and Faith.

3395
02:54:10,080 --> 02:54:12,640
Speaker 1: This is a whole crew that's g y P.

3396
02:54:13,360 --> 02:54:13,480
Speaker 8: Right.

3397
02:54:14,200 --> 02:54:17,520
Speaker 3: We ran all over New York, right.

3398
02:54:18,560 --> 02:54:26,119
Speaker 1: I used to go out there with you. So we're

3399
02:54:26,200 --> 02:54:31,200
Speaker 1: finishing the album. We just did Brooklyn Queens. We they

3400
02:54:31,240 --> 02:54:33,400
Speaker 1: got this other beat. I was like, yo, we should

3401
02:54:33,440 --> 02:54:34,560
Speaker 1: do gas fas No.

3402
02:54:34,760 --> 02:54:37,800
Speaker 5: But but even before that, We took Doom and Subrock

3403
02:54:37,920 --> 02:54:40,480
Speaker 5: into the studio with the Bomb Squad when we were

3404
02:54:40,520 --> 02:54:43,760
Speaker 5: doing Step into the A. M. An Oval Office, which

3405
02:54:43,879 --> 02:54:44,840
Speaker 5: is before the album.

3406
02:54:44,640 --> 02:54:46,080
Speaker 3: Either came out. Everything.

3407
02:54:46,640 --> 02:54:49,640
Speaker 1: Remember saying Doom because Doom was not a well he

3408
02:54:49,720 --> 02:54:52,760
Speaker 1: was That wasn't a no, no, it was a thing.

3409
02:54:52,879 --> 02:54:56,600
Speaker 1: Because his name is Daniel dum He was already we

3410
02:54:56,680 --> 02:55:02,200
Speaker 1: always called we did not always called him, always called

3411
02:55:02,400 --> 02:55:05,120
Speaker 1: was always called, always called him Doom. Okay, yeah, because

3412
02:55:05,120 --> 02:55:07,960
Speaker 1: that was his last name, Daniel Dumala, So he was

3413
02:55:08,000 --> 02:55:08,600
Speaker 1: always doomed.

3414
02:55:08,640 --> 02:55:10,640
Speaker 3: We always called him Doom. You're Doom and they had

3415
02:55:10,680 --> 02:55:13,400
Speaker 3: so that's where he evolves into this no well. He

3416
02:55:13,480 --> 02:55:16,480
Speaker 3: involved this other kid, Jade one down with them and

3417
02:55:16,520 --> 02:55:17,160
Speaker 3: they had a demo.

3418
02:55:17,720 --> 02:55:20,040
Speaker 5: That's the first time we heard the actual death because

3419
02:55:20,080 --> 02:55:23,920
Speaker 5: Doom would always right rhymes. He wouldn't spit them. We

3420
02:55:23,959 --> 02:55:26,039
Speaker 5: wouldn't hear a tape, but we would hear him.

3421
02:55:26,600 --> 02:55:31,880
Speaker 7: So he made before the mask made for They were

3422
02:55:31,920 --> 02:55:34,560
Speaker 7: both obsessed with production, so we we had them in

3423
02:55:34,640 --> 02:55:37,080
Speaker 7: with Shockley Vietnam in the studio.

3424
02:55:37,280 --> 02:55:41,880
Speaker 5: They're watching, they're learning things and they're taking that ship

3425
02:55:41,959 --> 02:55:42,760
Speaker 5: back to Long Beach.

3426
02:55:43,160 --> 02:55:46,560
Speaker 1: Done got some equipment, uh I forget what he had

3427
02:55:46,600 --> 02:55:49,119
Speaker 1: A nakais something like nine.

3428
02:55:49,400 --> 02:55:51,960
Speaker 5: I think he had s B twelve point twelve. And

3429
02:55:52,520 --> 02:55:54,840
Speaker 5: that's when he started making the first demos.

3430
02:55:54,520 --> 02:55:55,480
Speaker 3: And Jade One was in it.

3431
02:55:55,560 --> 02:55:57,680
Speaker 5: Then Jade one went out and then Onyx came in,

3432
02:55:58,600 --> 02:56:03,200
Speaker 5: and that's at the point where Prince Paul sent me

3433
02:56:04,520 --> 02:56:07,760
Speaker 5: just a cassette with some beats and that's where the

3434
02:56:07,879 --> 02:56:11,000
Speaker 5: gas face beat was on. So I gave it to Searge,

3435
02:56:11,160 --> 02:56:14,520
Speaker 5: gave it to Doom, and we had this idea, Yo,

3436
02:56:15,000 --> 02:56:17,200
Speaker 5: this could be the gas face. So we were on

3437
02:56:17,320 --> 02:56:19,880
Speaker 5: the Long Island Railroad going out to the Island media students.

3438
02:56:19,920 --> 02:56:20,160
Speaker 3: First.

3439
02:56:20,280 --> 02:56:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but first we asked Doom. We were like, Doom,

3440
02:56:22,240 --> 02:56:24,160
Speaker 1: can we do the gas face? Because it was like

3441
02:56:24,240 --> 02:56:25,800
Speaker 1: a gyp thing, so we wanted.

3442
02:56:25,720 --> 02:56:27,400
Speaker 5: It wasn't even like it was like, Yo, we wanted

3443
02:56:27,480 --> 02:56:28,400
Speaker 5: let's do the gas phase.

3444
02:56:28,480 --> 02:56:30,760
Speaker 10: He's like, yeah, let me do it because that term

3445
02:56:31,080 --> 02:56:33,360
Speaker 10: was the cruise term, right, that's what you're saying.

3446
02:56:33,640 --> 02:56:35,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure everybody was cool with it,

3447
02:56:35,160 --> 02:56:36,720
Speaker 1: but I was like, yo, if we do it, you

3448
02:56:36,800 --> 02:56:38,600
Speaker 1: got to jump on the record, right, And.

3449
02:56:38,640 --> 02:56:41,680
Speaker 5: We wrote the lyrics on the Jaloyle Railroad going on

3450
02:56:41,720 --> 02:56:43,039
Speaker 5: on the way to the Island Media.

3451
02:56:43,120 --> 02:56:45,640
Speaker 3: On which was Paul's studio where he was working.

3452
02:56:46,080 --> 02:56:48,360
Speaker 5: And rest of his Don Newkirk was in the studio

3453
02:56:48,440 --> 02:56:52,080
Speaker 5: with Paul, just hanging out and it was all spontaneous.

3454
02:56:52,120 --> 02:56:54,560
Speaker 5: The hold that when you hear the outtakes with Hammer

3455
02:56:54,600 --> 02:56:57,720
Speaker 5: and all that shit, all improvised, like off the top

3456
02:56:57,720 --> 02:56:59,800
Speaker 5: of the head, not even playing like Doohm had.

3457
02:57:00,160 --> 02:57:00,280
Speaker 3: Now.

3458
02:57:00,640 --> 02:57:04,320
Speaker 5: The only thing that we planned was that Doom wanted

3459
02:57:04,400 --> 02:57:06,880
Speaker 5: us introduced a certain way, like the Prime Minister.

3460
02:57:07,280 --> 02:57:10,160
Speaker 3: Now everybody mc search. So he dictated that he actually

3461
02:57:10,200 --> 02:57:13,480
Speaker 3: wrote it out. I have Search. We all dropped the

3462
02:57:13,560 --> 02:57:15,000
Speaker 3: lyrics on the floor. I picked him.

3463
02:57:15,000 --> 02:57:16,920
Speaker 5: I still have the lyrics to this day, and I

3464
02:57:17,000 --> 02:57:19,800
Speaker 5: have Dooms handwritten handwritten instructure.

3465
02:57:21,640 --> 02:57:24,360
Speaker 3: Okay, you have the actual the actual search is lyrics

3466
02:57:24,400 --> 02:57:25,599
Speaker 3: where he crushed.

3467
02:57:25,280 --> 02:57:28,080
Speaker 5: It out my lyrics and we don't have Dooms because

3468
02:57:28,160 --> 02:57:31,920
Speaker 5: Dunes was in his one of his like Marvel rhyme books.

3469
02:57:32,600 --> 02:57:33,720
Speaker 3: And that's how it happened.

3470
02:57:33,760 --> 02:57:37,480
Speaker 5: And Don Nukirk kicked the intros and then we just

3471
02:57:37,560 --> 02:57:39,560
Speaker 5: went nuts and the whole Hammer thing came in there

3472
02:57:39,640 --> 02:57:41,520
Speaker 5: and the rest is history.

3473
02:57:41,720 --> 02:57:45,840
Speaker 3: I know it's not I mean, so so basically, you

3474
02:57:45,879 --> 02:57:51,320
Speaker 3: ain't gonna you gotta take a shot for that. It's

3475
02:57:51,360 --> 02:57:53,560
Speaker 3: get it. Hold on, let's wait, let's.

3476
02:57:53,440 --> 02:57:58,160
Speaker 1: Goin anyway, So after the record comes out, Dante, who

3477
02:57:58,240 --> 02:58:01,920
Speaker 1: is working with us, tss sorry Dante Ross.

3478
02:58:01,800 --> 02:58:03,920
Speaker 3: He got the gas base did you give him the gas? No,

3479
02:58:04,080 --> 02:58:04,840
Speaker 3: he didn't get the gas.

3480
02:58:05,280 --> 02:58:08,400
Speaker 1: So Dante went to Electro and we were like yo,

3481
02:58:09,680 --> 02:58:11,959
Speaker 1: we started a production company called Ramen.

3482
02:58:12,000 --> 02:58:16,320
Speaker 3: It's fundamental Riff. But before that we had leor.

3483
02:58:17,480 --> 02:58:20,800
Speaker 5: De signed to manage KMD with us with riff really,

3484
02:58:23,160 --> 02:58:27,880
Speaker 5: so we already had doing them right now solo solo,

3485
02:58:28,360 --> 02:58:30,680
Speaker 5: So we the first part was to try to get

3486
02:58:30,720 --> 02:58:35,480
Speaker 5: him on deaf Jam and Russell wasn't feeling.

3487
02:58:37,000 --> 02:58:39,080
Speaker 3: But cam D was considered like Edgy at that time,

3488
02:58:39,200 --> 02:58:39,959
Speaker 3: right well, they weren't.

3489
02:58:41,000 --> 02:58:44,000
Speaker 1: They were just unknown because it was just Zebelo Vex's

3490
02:58:44,080 --> 02:58:45,039
Speaker 1: verse on gas face.

3491
02:58:45,480 --> 02:58:48,840
Speaker 5: So everybody was like, you can't understate that because we're

3492
02:58:48,879 --> 02:58:50,960
Speaker 5: taking them on our senio, we're taking them on the

3493
02:58:51,040 --> 02:58:53,280
Speaker 5: road with cane Like Doom is out there, you know,

3494
02:58:53,440 --> 02:58:55,520
Speaker 5: like as a young kid like sub Rock would come

3495
02:58:55,560 --> 02:58:58,119
Speaker 5: out sometimes because he was still they were both still

3496
02:58:58,160 --> 02:59:00,920
Speaker 5: in school, but someone was like about two years younger

3497
02:59:01,120 --> 02:59:04,040
Speaker 5: and he was yeah, so Doom, Doom was out there

3498
02:59:04,120 --> 02:59:06,800
Speaker 5: more with us, and he experienced things that a kid

3499
02:59:06,920 --> 02:59:08,680
Speaker 5: his age would never experience.

3500
02:59:10,200 --> 02:59:12,480
Speaker 13: He was with Tupac on the tour. On the tour,

3501
02:59:12,720 --> 02:59:17,200
Speaker 13: he was with Tupac Yeah, yeah, Doom, Yeah, because we

3502
02:59:17,280 --> 02:59:19,760
Speaker 13: had zebel x on so with third Base. So when

3503
02:59:19,760 --> 02:59:22,600
Speaker 13: every time he did gas face, he came out.

3504
02:59:24,080 --> 02:59:26,640
Speaker 10: So how does that feel to see the way that

3505
02:59:26,800 --> 02:59:28,960
Speaker 10: Tyler revered him in this?

3506
02:59:29,200 --> 02:59:31,280
Speaker 1: And I mean it's incredible. I mean, you know, but

3507
02:59:32,560 --> 02:59:37,840
Speaker 1: the thing that no, it's not even weird. But here's

3508
02:59:37,920 --> 02:59:38,200
Speaker 1: the thing.

3509
02:59:39,320 --> 02:59:41,840
Speaker 3: If his brother, sub Rock didn't die, there is no Doom.

3510
02:59:42,920 --> 02:59:44,520
Speaker 3: That's terrible.

3511
02:59:44,760 --> 02:59:48,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the point that Subrock passed, Like you say,

3512
02:59:48,840 --> 02:59:53,040
Speaker 5: that's why he donned the duom. Doom was depressed. I

3513
02:59:53,080 --> 02:59:54,320
Speaker 5: mean his he lost his brother.

3514
02:59:54,520 --> 02:59:57,920
Speaker 3: And the album Black Bass.

3515
02:59:57,600 --> 02:59:59,840
Speaker 5: Black Basterds, which you know, we we kind of split

3516
02:59:59,920 --> 03:00:00,800
Speaker 5: up up at that time.

3517
03:00:01,320 --> 03:00:04,920
Speaker 3: I was managing KMD with Yeah and.

3518
03:00:07,600 --> 03:00:10,879
Speaker 5: Created the cover and it was they had the iconic

3519
03:00:11,000 --> 03:00:15,720
Speaker 5: like Sambo character which was a whole message, which was

3520
03:00:15,760 --> 03:00:18,760
Speaker 5: anti Sambo. That was the whole message. So he did

3521
03:00:18,840 --> 03:00:21,800
Speaker 5: this artwork where he had a hangman game.

3522
03:00:21,879 --> 03:00:22,320
Speaker 10: I remember that.

3523
03:00:23,120 --> 03:00:24,320
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, let me tell you a great

3524
03:00:24,320 --> 03:00:26,880
Speaker 1: story I'm sorry, Please hold your spot because I love

3525
03:00:26,959 --> 03:00:31,160
Speaker 1: this story. When we were doing the video for gas Face,

3526
03:00:32,040 --> 03:00:37,560
Speaker 1: Doom and and sub Rock made k MD shirts.

3527
03:00:37,440 --> 03:00:40,600
Speaker 3: A handmaid like with a marker with the sambo.

3528
03:00:41,560 --> 03:00:44,800
Speaker 1: Lionel Martin from Classic Concepts was the video director, and

3529
03:00:44,879 --> 03:00:49,400
Speaker 1: Ralph McDaniels from Video Music Box. When they see it,

3530
03:00:50,400 --> 03:00:54,200
Speaker 1: they cut lights up and they're like, get the fuck

3531
03:00:54,280 --> 03:00:54,840
Speaker 1: out of here with that.

3532
03:00:54,840 --> 03:00:57,600
Speaker 3: Bullshit on your fucking face. Fucking samble, get that ship

3533
03:00:57,680 --> 03:00:58,080
Speaker 3: out of here.

3534
03:00:59,480 --> 03:01:03,680
Speaker 1: This young man is talking to a grown man, educating

3535
03:01:03,760 --> 03:01:06,720
Speaker 1: him on what this face is, and within five minutes

3536
03:01:06,760 --> 03:01:10,200
Speaker 1: he was like, yay, you casta. But that was like

3537
03:01:10,320 --> 03:01:13,960
Speaker 1: the level that they both were on in terms of

3538
03:01:14,040 --> 03:01:17,080
Speaker 1: their frequency, like how they would put positive ions in

3539
03:01:17,160 --> 03:01:20,199
Speaker 1: the world, like how they would understand how to break

3540
03:01:20,240 --> 03:01:23,760
Speaker 1: down answer a lass stuff where you wouldn't feel like.

3541
03:01:23,920 --> 03:01:27,720
Speaker 3: A villain, right yeah, I mean like the way the villain.

3542
03:01:28,040 --> 03:01:28,680
Speaker 3: Yeah right.

3543
03:01:28,720 --> 03:01:31,400
Speaker 5: And at the time they're they're selling oils on the

3544
03:01:32,080 --> 03:01:35,720
Speaker 5: on the street with Doctor York and uh, you know,

3545
03:01:35,840 --> 03:01:39,720
Speaker 5: they're they're on that whole mindset, and you know, Doom

3546
03:01:39,920 --> 03:01:45,680
Speaker 5: coming up in that environment, you know, he just he

3547
03:01:46,040 --> 03:01:49,480
Speaker 5: was a deep thinker and when he made that album cover.

3548
03:01:49,560 --> 03:01:52,640
Speaker 5: There was so much thought behind it. So Havoc Nelson

3549
03:01:52,720 --> 03:01:56,120
Speaker 5: a Billboard looked at it and he didn't get it,

3550
03:01:56,800 --> 03:02:00,240
Speaker 5: and he wrote an article scathing, scathing, saying that this

3551
03:02:00,440 --> 03:02:05,480
Speaker 5: was disrespectful to black people and ice teas cop killer

3552
03:02:05,640 --> 03:02:08,960
Speaker 5: controversy had just happened with Warner and elections under Warner.

3553
03:02:09,360 --> 03:02:11,040
Speaker 5: The next thing, you know, it's like an avalanche with

3554
03:02:11,120 --> 03:02:14,000
Speaker 5: Sylvia Ron and all these people are against it. Next thing,

3555
03:02:14,000 --> 03:02:18,680
Speaker 5: you know, Bob kras was telling Dante the album, we

3556
03:02:18,920 --> 03:02:23,000
Speaker 5: just mastered the album. They already paid all the money

3557
03:02:23,840 --> 03:02:25,960
Speaker 5: and it's ready to go. The single is already out.

3558
03:02:26,200 --> 03:02:29,480
Speaker 5: What a niggy know, it's already been released promo and

3559
03:02:29,520 --> 03:02:30,320
Speaker 5: it's already.

3560
03:02:30,040 --> 03:02:32,560
Speaker 3: Out on the radio. And they dropped the whole shit,

3561
03:02:33,400 --> 03:02:34,240
Speaker 3: so dropped them.

3562
03:02:35,080 --> 03:02:37,360
Speaker 5: Sub Rock had already passed away, So this was almost

3563
03:02:37,440 --> 03:02:39,000
Speaker 5: like a tribute to sub Rock because he had done

3564
03:02:39,040 --> 03:02:42,039
Speaker 5: so much of the production. He came into his own

3565
03:02:42,040 --> 03:02:44,640
Speaker 5: as an MC on the album. And I remember just

3566
03:02:44,720 --> 03:02:49,560
Speaker 5: being at uh the memorial service, you know, where Doom

3567
03:02:49,720 --> 03:02:53,640
Speaker 5: was playing the album like next to Subrock's casket. Wow,

3568
03:02:54,080 --> 03:02:58,080
Speaker 5: and it was it was deep and the fact that

3569
03:02:58,240 --> 03:03:02,400
Speaker 5: Doom lost his brother, lost his career. Like I tried

3570
03:03:02,440 --> 03:03:05,200
Speaker 5: to get that album signed to Death Jam Tommy Boy,

3571
03:03:05,760 --> 03:03:06,360
Speaker 5: no one would touch.

3572
03:03:06,440 --> 03:03:09,119
Speaker 3: He wasn't wearing the mask yet, no no mask whatsoever.

3573
03:03:09,280 --> 03:03:12,520
Speaker 5: And you know, Doom went to d C, he went

3574
03:03:12,600 --> 03:03:15,080
Speaker 5: down South, he went, he was all over the place

3575
03:03:15,120 --> 03:03:17,120
Speaker 5: and he disappeared for a while. Like there were a

3576
03:03:17,240 --> 03:03:19,360
Speaker 5: number of different He was hanging out a lot with

3577
03:03:19,520 --> 03:03:24,560
Speaker 5: cm CM Curious, Georgie and all them, and at some point,

3578
03:03:25,320 --> 03:03:27,400
Speaker 5: you know, he re emerged back at the you know,

3579
03:03:27,840 --> 03:03:33,480
Speaker 5: the new a Rican uh you knows cafe, and that's

3580
03:03:33,520 --> 03:03:35,840
Speaker 5: where he came with the sock over his head.

3581
03:03:35,959 --> 03:03:37,960
Speaker 1: That's that was the start of him. Remember the white

3582
03:03:38,800 --> 03:03:41,400
Speaker 1: to the very first white m see Vanilla b in Kio.

3583
03:03:41,920 --> 03:03:45,360
Speaker 1: He designed the mask really and Doom.

3584
03:03:45,800 --> 03:03:49,040
Speaker 5: But it's crazy, this is the whole like journey, like

3585
03:03:50,240 --> 03:03:54,480
Speaker 5: he met Suburck through Doom through Babito, like you know,

3586
03:03:54,720 --> 03:03:57,640
Speaker 5: Babito went on to Death Jam through us. It was

3587
03:03:57,760 --> 03:04:01,360
Speaker 5: just this whole circle. And then Blake actually designed the

3588
03:04:01,400 --> 03:04:04,840
Speaker 5: first mask for doing which was I think it was

3589
03:04:04,959 --> 03:04:06,199
Speaker 5: going to the wrestler.

3590
03:04:07,080 --> 03:04:10,039
Speaker 3: From the Yeah, something from the wrestler, Yeah, and then.

3591
03:04:09,959 --> 03:04:12,920
Speaker 5: He like customized it. That was the first mask which

3592
03:04:12,920 --> 03:04:15,160
Speaker 5: I think when they somebody sat on and broke it.

3593
03:04:15,879 --> 03:04:18,960
Speaker 3: Operation Doomsday came out, and that's that's the start of

3594
03:04:19,160 --> 03:04:19,640
Speaker 3: m F. Doom.

3595
03:04:20,240 --> 03:04:24,160
Speaker 5: So then reinvented his whole persona and just lyric lyrically,

3596
03:04:24,800 --> 03:04:27,600
Speaker 5: you know, he was always way above, always the grade,

3597
03:04:27,680 --> 03:04:29,800
Speaker 5: and then he just took it to a level.

3598
03:04:30,160 --> 03:04:35,720
Speaker 3: And then that was signed up. Having the mask came

3599
03:04:35,760 --> 03:04:37,320
Speaker 3: from him losing his brother.

3600
03:04:38,600 --> 03:04:40,840
Speaker 1: Part of it, I think, again my perspective, it was

3601
03:04:40,959 --> 03:04:41,920
Speaker 1: just my perspective, right.

3602
03:04:42,240 --> 03:04:44,000
Speaker 2: A lot of people, let me just ask you, a

3603
03:04:44,040 --> 03:04:45,840
Speaker 2: lot of people thought that when they went to an

3604
03:04:46,480 --> 03:04:48,560
Speaker 2: Doom concert they didn't know if.

3605
03:04:50,040 --> 03:04:51,280
Speaker 3: Or not if that was him or not.

3606
03:04:51,440 --> 03:04:53,960
Speaker 5: Well, because because it was somebody else at different times.

3607
03:04:54,000 --> 03:04:55,680
Speaker 5: I even had a couple of guys from Guy P

3608
03:04:56,320 --> 03:04:59,240
Speaker 5: I think they went to Sony, I mean that's Sony

3609
03:04:59,320 --> 03:05:02,600
Speaker 5: Theater and Doom walked by him with the mask and

3610
03:05:02,680 --> 03:05:05,320
Speaker 5: didn't even acknowledge him. And I said to him, well,

3611
03:05:05,480 --> 03:05:07,880
Speaker 5: that may not have been actual Doom, you know, it

3612
03:05:07,959 --> 03:05:08,400
Speaker 5: could have been.

3613
03:05:08,879 --> 03:05:09,720
Speaker 3: It could have been the cover.

3614
03:05:09,879 --> 03:05:13,360
Speaker 5: Now, the other full circle story is Rich called me

3615
03:05:13,600 --> 03:05:17,480
Speaker 5: like what two thousand and twelve or ten or eleven,

3616
03:05:17,720 --> 03:05:18,840
Speaker 5: with the mask.

3617
03:05:19,680 --> 03:05:24,120
Speaker 15: I had started battling the game under persona called Lord Raven.

3618
03:05:24,320 --> 03:05:27,680
Speaker 15: And I remember when I went to Atlanta and I

3619
03:05:27,800 --> 03:05:30,480
Speaker 15: did this party. I was with Doom and I told

3620
03:05:30,560 --> 03:05:33,440
Speaker 15: him about the mask and stuff, and after that he

3621
03:05:33,520 --> 03:05:34,200
Speaker 15: started doing it.

3622
03:05:34,760 --> 03:05:37,120
Speaker 3: And so he asked Rich to.

3623
03:05:37,240 --> 03:05:39,880
Speaker 5: DJ for him on tour on a I think a

3624
03:05:39,920 --> 03:05:42,200
Speaker 5: world tour, right, yeah, something like that. And then I

3625
03:05:42,240 --> 03:05:45,360
Speaker 5: think he had a problem with you know, passport stuff

3626
03:05:45,400 --> 03:05:48,320
Speaker 5: like that, because Doom even when he traveled with us. Yeah,

3627
03:05:48,400 --> 03:05:51,160
Speaker 5: and he was born in England, so he still had

3628
03:05:51,200 --> 03:05:53,520
Speaker 5: the English passport. You guys used to get detained all

3629
03:05:53,600 --> 03:05:56,640
Speaker 5: the time when we would go. So doing was British

3630
03:05:57,959 --> 03:05:58,959
Speaker 5: doing was born in Vergine.

3631
03:05:59,000 --> 03:06:04,680
Speaker 3: Find out bro learning some ship, learned some ship. So

3632
03:06:04,840 --> 03:06:08,160
Speaker 3: rest peace doing. But how dope is it to see?

3633
03:06:08,560 --> 03:06:09,240
Speaker 3: It's incredible?

3634
03:06:09,320 --> 03:06:13,200
Speaker 10: Ty, the creator pay Homage said everybody, I mean, there's

3635
03:06:13,200 --> 03:06:14,480
Speaker 10: so many people this.

3636
03:06:14,640 --> 03:06:20,480
Speaker 3: Is I mean, but like your you know ahead, no, no, no,

3637
03:06:20,720 --> 03:06:25,160
Speaker 3: he's revered. It's crazy. But recently, like in recent time

3638
03:06:25,200 --> 03:06:33,720
Speaker 3: he died. There were fifteen full train burners that when

3639
03:06:33,840 --> 03:06:37,199
Speaker 3: in countries that would never even allow graffiti to leave.

3640
03:06:37,720 --> 03:06:45,840
Speaker 1: The fucking tunnel that rocked for weeks, France, Shanghai, Tokyo,

3641
03:06:46,640 --> 03:06:51,640
Speaker 1: places that they buffer for the ship even leaves the tunnel.

3642
03:06:53,200 --> 03:06:58,000
Speaker 3: People that get caned killed put in jail them, ships

3643
03:06:58,120 --> 03:07:04,879
Speaker 3: rocked for weeks. That's the impact of man in Peace.

3644
03:07:04,959 --> 03:07:13,840
Speaker 3: Broe Peace got that with Amanda.

3645
03:07:18,879 --> 03:07:22,760
Speaker 2: Going through You guys disciography is a song called Brooklyn

3646
03:07:22,879 --> 03:07:25,240
Speaker 2: Queens Right now, I can't.

3647
03:07:26,840 --> 03:07:32,560
Speaker 3: Tell was that something that was dedicated to Brooklyn Queen's Day.

3648
03:07:34,280 --> 03:07:35,120
Speaker 3: You remember that.

3649
03:07:37,440 --> 03:07:40,520
Speaker 2: Fresh Meadow Park and it was called Brooklyn Queen's Day.

3650
03:07:40,560 --> 03:07:43,160
Speaker 2: But it was a bunch of Queens dudes. I don't

3651
03:07:43,200 --> 03:07:46,600
Speaker 2: think Brooklyn never came out, but it was called Brooklyn

3652
03:07:46,680 --> 03:07:50,320
Speaker 2: Queen's Day in Queens? Was that record a homage to that?

3653
03:07:51,120 --> 03:07:55,000
Speaker 5: So when me and Search first signed to Rush, Search

3654
03:07:55,120 --> 03:07:58,600
Speaker 5: was in the studio working with Sam Sever. I was

3655
03:07:58,680 --> 03:08:01,480
Speaker 5: working by myself. Rich was in farming Dale was trying

3656
03:08:01,520 --> 03:08:05,560
Speaker 5: to get Rich to come in. Dante called up Sam Sever.

3657
03:08:06,240 --> 03:08:08,920
Speaker 5: I was I wasn't a producer. I needed some help

3658
03:08:08,959 --> 03:08:10,840
Speaker 5: on the beat. Sam sever came in to help me.

3659
03:08:11,840 --> 03:08:14,400
Speaker 5: So Brooklyn Queens was one of the songs that me

3660
03:08:14,480 --> 03:08:15,520
Speaker 5: and Rich had done first.

3661
03:08:15,760 --> 03:08:18,160
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, we did the first demo with Functions Lives

3662
03:08:18,280 --> 03:08:19,320
Speaker 1: didn't sound anything like.

3663
03:08:19,640 --> 03:08:23,480
Speaker 5: Exactly so, but then as you know, Private the environment

3664
03:08:23,600 --> 03:08:26,440
Speaker 5: was on Search's original demo, So we kind of like

3665
03:08:26,600 --> 03:08:30,680
Speaker 5: brought each of our catalogs of songs together and then

3666
03:08:30,920 --> 03:08:33,080
Speaker 5: we flipped Brooklyn Queens as you know.

3667
03:08:34,760 --> 03:08:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it always kind of felt like it was.

3668
03:08:37,440 --> 03:08:39,160
Speaker 3: Remember that was one of the biggest things.

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03:08:39,320 --> 03:08:39,480
Speaker 5: You know.

3670
03:08:40,280 --> 03:08:42,800
Speaker 2: That was the first time I ever seen Akanelly and

3671
03:08:43,000 --> 03:08:46,600
Speaker 2: Nas performed together. There was a thing called Brooklyn Queen's Day,

3672
03:08:46,920 --> 03:08:48,680
Speaker 2: and I went and I seen them and I was

3673
03:08:48,720 --> 03:08:50,959
Speaker 2: like I had seen them in the neighborhood so many

3674
03:08:51,000 --> 03:08:53,920
Speaker 2: different times. I was like, Oh, these guys rap and

3675
03:08:54,120 --> 03:08:57,119
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, that's where the fuck these

3676
03:08:57,160 --> 03:08:58,160
Speaker 2: people are, right.

3677
03:08:58,120 --> 03:09:01,240
Speaker 5: And it was kind of more even about like LaToya

3678
03:09:01,320 --> 03:09:04,680
Speaker 5: by just nice, like yeah, Brooklyn Queens.

3679
03:09:04,720 --> 03:09:04,880
Speaker 1: It was.

3680
03:09:05,200 --> 03:09:06,840
Speaker 3: It was like one of those yeah, like we were

3681
03:09:06,959 --> 03:09:09,600
Speaker 3: kind of doing females. Yeah, that's exactly right.

3682
03:09:09,640 --> 03:09:11,600
Speaker 1: It was like all about like you know, meeting a

3683
03:09:11,680 --> 03:09:14,600
Speaker 1: girl from Brooklyn when you're from Queens, right, like especially

3684
03:09:14,640 --> 03:09:17,760
Speaker 1: from for Rockaway, Like that's kind of like a status symbol.

3685
03:09:17,879 --> 03:09:20,360
Speaker 1: Like if you if you scoop a girl from downtown Brooklyn,

3686
03:09:20,520 --> 03:09:23,720
Speaker 1: like you're doing something, you really doing something. Yeah, Yeah,

3687
03:09:24,520 --> 03:09:26,080
Speaker 1: Like we didn't really have it, like you where you

3688
03:09:26,200 --> 03:09:28,640
Speaker 1: had daddies in Left Frack like you know, you know,

3689
03:09:31,400 --> 03:09:32,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like we you know, we

3690
03:09:32,640 --> 03:09:36,120
Speaker 1: had to really troop out and find like you know, and.

3691
03:09:36,240 --> 03:09:37,280
Speaker 3: Just the whole name of the song.

3692
03:09:37,400 --> 03:09:40,160
Speaker 5: Like I lived in Long Island, I lived in Queens,

3693
03:09:40,360 --> 03:09:41,960
Speaker 5: went to school in Brooklyn, So it was just that

3694
03:09:42,080 --> 03:09:43,840
Speaker 5: whole context of Brooklyn Queens.

3695
03:09:43,840 --> 03:09:46,920
Speaker 24: And I mean it could have been very easy because

3696
03:09:47,040 --> 03:09:53,080
Speaker 24: because because Berlin Queens were very compared to hallm and

3697
03:09:53,200 --> 03:09:53,840
Speaker 24: the Bronx.

3698
03:09:55,879 --> 03:09:58,920
Speaker 5: But at the time Brooklyn and Queens took over hip

3699
03:09:58,920 --> 03:10:01,240
Speaker 5: hop with Rudinia Runny mc. So like you had the

3700
03:10:02,200 --> 03:10:04,440
Speaker 5: I Love that, that's that that was like the biggest

3701
03:10:04,480 --> 03:10:05,320
Speaker 5: shift in hip hop.

3702
03:10:05,560 --> 03:10:06,959
Speaker 3: So there wasn't no Harlem and bros.

3703
03:10:07,040 --> 03:10:09,920
Speaker 5: Like that, well there was, it was that was that

3704
03:10:10,080 --> 03:10:11,920
Speaker 5: was a shift with them and with Rush I mean,

3705
03:10:11,959 --> 03:10:14,920
Speaker 5: because that's what Russell did. And Russell started in Harlem

3706
03:10:14,959 --> 03:10:18,400
Speaker 5: with Hollywood, like Russell started promoting Hollywood and like DJ

3707
03:10:18,560 --> 03:10:20,800
Speaker 5: Hollywood DJ Hollywood nineteen seventy seven.

3708
03:10:21,320 --> 03:10:23,640
Speaker 3: It was like the bust cross over hip hop.

3709
03:10:23,600 --> 03:10:26,440
Speaker 5: DJ exactly exactly. And you know a lot of people

3710
03:10:26,520 --> 03:10:30,840
Speaker 5: say Hollywood isn't hip hop. Hollywood was the biggest rap star.

3711
03:10:32,320 --> 03:10:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to go step ball night with my honey,

3712
03:10:35,080 --> 03:10:37,800
Speaker 1: bum give me some of that yum me young one

3713
03:10:37,879 --> 03:10:39,560
Speaker 1: them before I go to way.

3714
03:10:44,080 --> 03:10:49,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell the fun. He's looking on the Georgia. Georgianamos

3715
03:10:49,280 --> 03:10:50,120
Speaker 3: be smashing right now.

3716
03:10:50,200 --> 03:10:53,119
Speaker 5: He was getting five hundred dollars a show for maybe

3717
03:10:53,200 --> 03:10:55,000
Speaker 5: like a half hour at every club, doing like five

3718
03:10:55,080 --> 03:10:57,040
Speaker 5: clubs at night, twenty five hundred dollars a night, and

3719
03:10:57,080 --> 03:10:58,360
Speaker 5: we got the contracts to prove it.

3720
03:10:58,760 --> 03:11:05,080
Speaker 2: Yoh crazy, that's legendary. I want to take a shot

3721
03:11:05,160 --> 03:11:06,080
Speaker 2: just because again.

3722
03:11:06,000 --> 03:11:09,119
Speaker 3: Let's go and take the picture. I think. I think

3723
03:11:09,160 --> 03:11:11,480
Speaker 3: shots are necessary shots and pictures.

3724
03:11:11,560 --> 03:11:11,960
Speaker 5: I like it.

3725
03:11:12,440 --> 03:11:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm being honest. Hold on, it's so great, man.

3726
03:11:18,879 --> 03:11:22,520
Speaker 2: I really enjoy giving you all brothers, yr Flowers. I

3727
03:11:22,720 --> 03:11:26,080
Speaker 2: enjoy this man, y'all continue to do this ship.

3728
03:11:26,600 --> 03:11:27,280
Speaker 3: And you know what.

3729
03:11:29,400 --> 03:11:32,560
Speaker 2: You know in sports and ship like that, you know,

3730
03:11:33,000 --> 03:11:37,560
Speaker 2: you blow your achilles hell, blow your fucking knee out

3731
03:11:37,720 --> 03:11:40,439
Speaker 2: or elbow, or get a concussion.

3732
03:11:41,640 --> 03:11:43,160
Speaker 3: We kind of don't get that as in hip hop.

3733
03:11:44,200 --> 03:11:45,160
Speaker 3: We get it mentally.

3734
03:11:46,000 --> 03:11:47,800
Speaker 2: If we can overgrow that and we can do this

3735
03:11:47,879 --> 03:11:49,800
Speaker 2: ship for the rest of our life, this the rest

3736
03:11:49,840 --> 03:11:54,200
Speaker 2: of them life, you know what I mean? Continue to

3737
03:11:54,320 --> 03:11:58,280
Speaker 2: be great because the one thing that I noticed with

3738
03:11:58,480 --> 03:12:02,160
Speaker 2: me being in my own ship is when I wasn't doing,

3739
03:12:02,320 --> 03:12:05,400
Speaker 2: you know, doing certain things, it's people that really have

3740
03:12:05,480 --> 03:12:08,320
Speaker 2: that responsibility to want to be a part of us.

3741
03:12:08,959 --> 03:12:12,040
Speaker 2: So there's a whole bunch of lost third base fans

3742
03:12:12,080 --> 03:12:14,920
Speaker 2: that were happy right now. It was like, oh, right

3743
03:12:15,000 --> 03:12:17,600
Speaker 2: back to and they got the same d J like like,

3744
03:12:17,879 --> 03:12:21,320
Speaker 2: I'm one of them, I'm one of them. You everybody

3745
03:12:21,360 --> 03:12:23,840
Speaker 2: will say, I'm wondering them after that, come on, like,

3746
03:12:25,200 --> 03:12:25,959
Speaker 2: are too young.

3747
03:12:28,040 --> 03:12:32,320
Speaker 3: In there? One of that Christmas one of them? Like

3748
03:12:32,400 --> 03:12:37,480
Speaker 3: all these young started again again said I'm wanted. I'm

3749
03:12:37,520 --> 03:12:46,119
Speaker 3: one of them. I know Sonny is one of them.

3750
03:12:47,160 --> 03:12:51,879
Speaker 3: Sony is one of them. We all stay together, one

3751
03:12:52,000 --> 03:13:02,400
Speaker 3: two three, in a couple of drops.

3752
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03:13:09,520 --> 03:13:12,959
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03:13:14,120 --> 03:13:18,240
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03:13:22,200 --> 03:13:24,800
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03:13:27,560 --> 03:13:29,720
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