WEBVTT - The Increase in Hate Speech Toward Women (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome you to another episode of Civic Cipher, where our

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<v Speaker 1>mission is to foster allyship empathy and understanding. I am

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<v Speaker 1>your host, Rams' job.

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<v Speaker 2>He is Ramsey's jaw. I am q Ward. You are

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<v Speaker 2>tuned into Civic Cipher.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed you are, and it is a different world and

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<v Speaker 1>it's up to us to let you know what we learn.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we're not going to make sense of

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<v Speaker 1>it with each other. And so today we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking about an increase and I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>would call it anti woman hate speech. I guess online

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<v Speaker 1>things that you need to know about, things that you

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<v Speaker 1>can do to push back against it. And for those

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<v Speaker 1>of you who love a woman anywhere in the world

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<v Speaker 1>and respect her as well, I think that these are

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<v Speaker 1>things that you need to know about, just because there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of things that are taking place online

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<v Speaker 1>and fortunately we can track those things and again you

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<v Speaker 1>can be empowered and make decisions that are most appropriate

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<v Speaker 1>for you and for the people in your life. And

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<v Speaker 1>the second part of the show, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>discussing both the political parties and their place in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that in recent days, I've been wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>with myself and so I expect to learn and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that you will be able to learn something along

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<v Speaker 1>with me. But there's there's that, and there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>more to stick around for right here on Civic Cipher.

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<v Speaker 1>But today we're going to have a special installment of

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<v Speaker 1>EBNY excellence because the person we're talking about has long

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<v Speaker 1>been deceased. But today's EBNY excellence comes from the information network.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the one and only Harriet Tubman. Don't forget,

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<v Speaker 1>today's segment is sponsored by actively black. There's greatness in

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<v Speaker 1>our DNA. Visit actively black dot com. All right. Harriet Tubman,

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<v Speaker 1>a reverend, sorry, a revered abolitionist who lead a group

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<v Speaker 1>of Union soldiers during the Civil War, was posthumously honored

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<v Speaker 1>as a general roughly one hundred and sixty years after

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<v Speaker 1>her service. On Monday, which was November eleventh, Tubman was

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<v Speaker 1>posthumously named a one starbard Grader general in Maryland's National

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<v Speaker 1>Guard during a special Veterans Day ceremony at the Harriet

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<v Speaker 1>Tubman Underground Railroad State Park. Per the Associated Press quote,

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<v Speaker 1>today we celebrate a soldier and a person who earned

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<v Speaker 1>the title of veteran.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>This from Governor Wes Moore, according to a statement, goes

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<v Speaker 1>on to say, today we celebrate one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>authors of the American story. In eighteen forty nine, Tubman

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<v Speaker 1>escape slavery and settled in Philadelphia. She then established the

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<v Speaker 1>Underground Railroad, helping lead other enslaved black people to freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>Tubman went on to serve as a scout, spy, and

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<v Speaker 1>nurse for the Union Army during the Civil War. The

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<v Speaker 1>abolitionist once guided one hundred and fifty black soldiers on

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<v Speaker 1>a gunboat raid in South Carolina. Moore applauded Tubman for

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<v Speaker 1>her dedication to helping others achieve freedom. Quote. She knew

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<v Speaker 1>that in order to do the work that that meant

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<v Speaker 1>that she had to go into the lion's den. She

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<v Speaker 1>knew that leadership means you have to be willing to

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<v Speaker 1>do what you're asking others to do. During Monday ceremony,

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<v Speaker 1>a reading of Tubman's official order occurred before a symbolic

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<v Speaker 1>pinning by her great great great grand niece, Tina Wyatt. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Aunt Harriet was one of those veterans. Informally, she gave

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<v Speaker 1>up any right she had obtained for herself to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to fight for others. She is a selfless person,

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<v Speaker 1>and as I mentioned, normally, ebony excellence is something that

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<v Speaker 1>we're able to highlight someone who is accomplishing something right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But we couldn't miss the opportunity to commemorate this moment

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<v Speaker 1>with sharing that story with you. So all right, So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this one's going to be interesting. You know, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to inform you of some things that you may not

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<v Speaker 1>know about. Now. A lot of folks know that when

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk took over Twitter that there was a sharp

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<v Speaker 1>increase in h speech because he was a self proclaimed

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<v Speaker 1>at the time at least free speech absolutist. That turned

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<v Speaker 1>out not to be the case, especially when it was

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<v Speaker 1>speech that was unflattering or speech that he just personally

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't like. But all the other speech was free,

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<v Speaker 1>and that included the N word, which you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>famously on this show found to be exceptionally disrespectful. The

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<v Speaker 1>increase in the amount of the usage of the inWORD

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<v Speaker 1>on that platform. But that was one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people either knew about or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm saying it and you're hearing it for the

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<v Speaker 1>first if that's you, it makes sense. I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's the first place people go when the guardrails

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<v Speaker 1>are office, to the deepest, darkest, most hateful place that

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<v Speaker 1>they can go on the Internet, and oftentimes that includes

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<v Speaker 1>attacking gay people, or invoking language or black people or

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<v Speaker 1>gay people, or invoking language that has harmed and further

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<v Speaker 1>subjugated these two communities, often using words that is, in

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<v Speaker 1>many cases the last words that people hear in their lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>So might come as a surprise to know that that

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<v Speaker 1>is also happening with women. So I'm going to share

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit from isd global dot org. And before

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<v Speaker 1>there's any pushback, I want you all to know that

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<v Speaker 1>I am whenever I come across a new website, a

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<v Speaker 1>new source of information, a new media outlet, I do

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<v Speaker 1>a deep dive to determine their credibility and to determine

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<v Speaker 1>their political bias. I did so with isdglobal dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>I implore you to check it out and do your own

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive. But I Ramses did this. I did this

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<v Speaker 1>prior to this recording, of course, and I can say

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a slightly left leaning archive of data

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<v Speaker 1>and statistics. My belief this is a personal belief this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't anything, this isn't documentary, where my personal belief is

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<v Speaker 1>that the truth often has a liberal bias to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the slightly left leaning composure of this website didn't

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<v Speaker 1>throw me off what really is.

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<v Speaker 2>It might also be important to point out that data

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't lean left or right. Yeah, when you when you

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<v Speaker 2>lead with that, it gives off the impression though you

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<v Speaker 2>guys are using left leaning data.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, there's no such thing. Yeah, this is just data.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just thesis factable. But I think that what

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to say because the independent you know, source

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<v Speaker 1>that determines whether or not something's left or right leaning,

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<v Speaker 1>which I used a couple, but the main one, which is, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I forget the name of it right now. But in

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<v Speaker 1>any event, the interpretation of the data and how how

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<v Speaker 1>the data reads when when you're trying to make heads

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<v Speaker 1>or tails with the numbers, there might be some bias there,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was not a strong bias in the least.

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<v Speaker 1>And again you're you're welcome to check this out. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to know that this had a high

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<v Speaker 1>degree of credibility. In other words, the things that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying to are true and verified in so far as

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<v Speaker 1>the checks that I'm able to perform can tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>With that said, let's move forward. ID researchers tracked narratives

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<v Speaker 1>targeting women and the discussion of those narrat is between

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<v Speaker 1>November fourth and six, twenty twenty four, across X formally Twitter, TikTok, Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>and Reddit. The use of derogatory and misogynistic language was

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<v Speaker 1>already rife among well noted manisphere and extremist communities on

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<v Speaker 1>these platforms, and this activity has only gained steam in

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<v Speaker 1>the past three days. According to the data, since the election,

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<v Speaker 1>ISD also observed reports of these narratives being used to

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<v Speaker 1>harass women offline, particularly on high school and college campuses.

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<v Speaker 1>In the past twenty four hours, there has been a

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<v Speaker 1>four six hundred percent increase in mentions of the terms

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<v Speaker 1>your body, my choice, and get back in the kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>on X. Similarly, misogynist language such as the use of

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<v Speaker 1>dumb C word to target Harris television personalities such as

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel Maddow and others, received more than sixty four thousand

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<v Speaker 1>mentions on X from more than forty two forty two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand accounts. On November fifth, Nick fointes an influential white

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<v Speaker 1>nationalist podcaster appeared to be one of the early instigators

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<v Speaker 1>in promoting the phrase. On November fifth, his ex post

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<v Speaker 1>your body my Choice Forever has since received thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>million views. On TikTok, female users are reporting that accounts

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<v Speaker 1>are commenting your body my choice end mass on their posts.

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<v Speaker 1>One TikTok creator stated quote, I had to delete a

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<v Speaker 1>video because I was being threatened and several men commenting

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<v Speaker 1>saying they couldn't wait until I get assaulted or your

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<v Speaker 1>body my choice. Another stated I woke up this morning

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<v Speaker 1>to men commenting your body my choice. In a TikTok forum.

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<v Speaker 1>On Reddit, a user posted last night, I reported one

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<v Speaker 1>of the many comments I've seen saying your body my choice.

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<v Speaker 1>The comment has been left up and the report has

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<v Speaker 1>been marked as not a violation. How is that not

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<v Speaker 1>a violation? Okay? The phrase your body my Choice appears

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<v Speaker 1>to have made its way offline, specifically onto schools. Young

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<v Speaker 1>girls and parents have used social media to share instances

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<v Speaker 1>of offline harassment. They include the phrase being directed at

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<v Speaker 1>them within schools or chanted by young boys in classes.

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<v Speaker 1>On Facebook, the phrase your body my Choice is currently

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<v Speaker 1>trending with fifty two thousand posts in the last twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours. One parents stated quote, today, my daughter was

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<v Speaker 1>told three separate times on campus, your body, my choice.

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<v Speaker 1>The third group of boys told her to sleep with

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<v Speaker 1>one eye open tonight. And I'm going to just read

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of these or I'm going to read one more, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll get to the rest, all right. On Reddit,

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<v Speaker 1>users utilize the platform to warn others of offline harassment.

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<v Speaker 1>One user stated, women are being harassed today at U

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<v Speaker 1>and M and told to go home where they belong

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<v Speaker 1>by gangs of men in maga gear. All right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to stop right there because you get it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we're going to get to some more data and

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<v Speaker 1>some more instances of this. Again, we're going to call

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<v Speaker 1>it anti women hate speech. And again, this show doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>exist to make people fearful. I don't believe that that's

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<v Speaker 1>the right way to be. We try to inspire love

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<v Speaker 1>and kindness and fellowship and togetherness, but we also need

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<v Speaker 1>to be knowledgeable about the state that we are in

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<v Speaker 1>and the people in the world that we live in,

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<v Speaker 1>and their capacity to inflict harm physically or emotionally, and

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<v Speaker 1>their capacity to threaten harm. So I worry particularly for

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<v Speaker 1>people who are raising the next generation of women because

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<v Speaker 1>they are still determined their identity. And of course you

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<v Speaker 1>is famously one of those people. I see you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of processing all this right now. Yeah. My daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Came home from school the day after the election, and

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<v Speaker 2>her question to me, in the most innocent, childlike way, was, Daddy,

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<v Speaker 2>I won't use his name. He's so mean and she's

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<v Speaker 2>so nice, So how come he won? And to a kindergartener,

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<v Speaker 2>that logic is so sound, and I could not provide

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<v Speaker 2>her with a articulated answer that would have satisfied that confusion. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>as you can imagine, there's been no instances of her

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<v Speaker 2>watching our former president behave like himself with me because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't consume him as content. So wherever she was

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<v Speaker 2>able to come across the former president and our current

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<v Speaker 2>vice president, she made two determinations. One he's very mean

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<v Speaker 2>and two she's very nice. And given those two choices,

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<v Speaker 2>how does the very mean one come out victorious? With

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<v Speaker 2>trying to comfort that question? And I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>brush it off and treat it like it wasn't worth

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation. I just was not capable of giving her

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<v Speaker 2>an answer that made sense. Because I steal to that

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<v Speaker 2>point and maybe still today have not been able to

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<v Speaker 2>help myself understand how we got here again again. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, friends have made fun of me in the

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<v Speaker 2>past for being far too consumed with our vice president,

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<v Speaker 2>with our former president. I'm sorry, and the hate that

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<v Speaker 2>he stoked with our country, and I've never regained comfort

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<v Speaker 2>since the election that he won. I've never exhaled him

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<v Speaker 2>be like okay, we're okay, because he never went away

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<v Speaker 2>and neither did his followers. I saw people, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with their chest PopEd out talking about how they were

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<v Speaker 2>glad we've talked about this on the show, that he

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<v Speaker 2>made racist people come out of the closet, that they

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<v Speaker 2>were glad that people were saying how they really felt.

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<v Speaker 2>And I never understood that. I never understood this pride

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<v Speaker 2>that we had and welcoming people to be outright, overt

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<v Speaker 2>blatant racist, misogynist bigots, because that makes life less comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>and less safe. Virtue signaling as if we need to

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<v Speaker 2>know everyone's purest intentions. No, we don't. The people in

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<v Speaker 2>my life that I love, that are a part of

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<v Speaker 2>my family and that I actually care about, I need

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<v Speaker 2>to know how you feel or I'd love to know

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<v Speaker 2>how you feel. But even then, if you fake it

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<v Speaker 2>for our entire life, run it. Yeah, it doesn't make

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<v Speaker 2>a real mean If you're going to be nice to

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<v Speaker 2>me in front of me for our whole life, run it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're gonna treat me and my family good for

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<v Speaker 2>our entire life, and then when you go home talk

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<v Speaker 2>to your other people about me in a way that's negative,

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<v Speaker 2>but that has zero impact on my day to day

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<v Speaker 2>run it. But emboldening people to be the worst versions

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<v Speaker 2>of themselves shamelessly was always going to prove to be

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous from the very first time it happened, from the

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<v Speaker 2>very first time I saw it, you know, to the

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<v Speaker 2>point now where when I see that red hat in

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<v Speaker 2>real life, even to this day, it's staggering. I never

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<v Speaker 2>expect to cross paths with someone that actually feels that way,

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<v Speaker 2>So it always catches me off guard because in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't go anywhere where people would be racist, evil

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<v Speaker 2>mean bullies that hate women, that hate everyone that's not white.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never be anywhere where those people exist, except I

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<v Speaker 2>am all the time. And once upon a time, there

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<v Speaker 2>were two things that we could probably or that I

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<v Speaker 2>could have said to my daughter. If she come home

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<v Speaker 2>to me and said that someone said one of these

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<v Speaker 2>things to her, first thing I do is take her

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<v Speaker 2>right back to that school and have a conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>the people in charge, Because once upon a time there

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<v Speaker 2>were consequences for things like this. Once upon a time,

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<v Speaker 2>people would scream things like this and hide their hand

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<v Speaker 2>because they didn't want anybody to know that's how they

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<v Speaker 2>really felt. Except now they wear it on their shirts

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<v Speaker 2>and their hats, and their trucks and on their porch.

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<v Speaker 1>So then what.

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<v Speaker 2>If she comes home after being bullied by someone like this?

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<v Speaker 2>What am I going to do? I have to depend

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<v Speaker 2>on someone else to be as upset as I am,

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<v Speaker 2>and every other person in this country is not, including women.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah wow. So so here's the thing. The part of

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<v Speaker 1>this that has been challenging for me personally is that,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk about tomorrow on the second half of

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<v Speaker 1>the show, But there's I'm trying to understand in this moment,

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<v Speaker 1>how both political parties make the country go, how both

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<v Speaker 1>parties make the country work. I am a like super liberal,

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<v Speaker 1>left leaning person. That's just how my heart beats. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not giving a fear, I'm giving a hope those sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of things. That's I've always been that way. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to the show all the time, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know who I am. But I I'm trying to understand

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<v Speaker 1>the people that don't view the world the way that

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<v Speaker 1>I do. And I know in my heart of hearts

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<v Speaker 1>that there are sensitive people on that side on the right.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people who are sensible, There are people who

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<v Speaker 1>are measured, there are people who are kind. This show

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<v Speaker 1>would not be on the radio right now if it

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<v Speaker 1>were not for people who voted for Donald Trump the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. You know what I mean. We can share

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<v Speaker 1>that story if we want. You know, this is factual,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think at a point it's you realize that

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<v Speaker 1>you're voting for the person who's creating this effect. This

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<v Speaker 1>is these numbers, this data that I'm sharing with you,

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<v Speaker 1>that that is the Trump effect, this rise in hate speech,

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<v Speaker 1>anti female hate speech, that the person behind that is

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump and not Kamala Harris. And for you to

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<v Speaker 1>ignore racism, because we talk about racism a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>for you to ignore you have to ignore a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>things to even get here in order to ignore this too.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's so much that half the country to your point, Q.

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<v Speaker 1>Half the country still voted for this guy, who again

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<v Speaker 1>results in this effect in the population. I'll finish. In

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<v Speaker 1>some instances, women influencers that cater to traditional values joined

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<v Speaker 1>the male counterparts. Their content included videos of women upset

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<v Speaker 1>by the election loss of Harris, referring to them as

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<v Speaker 1>the R word. They have also parroted Trump's remarks from

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<v Speaker 1>a leaked Access Hollywood video in which he told a

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<v Speaker 1>TV personality that he grabs women by the genitals. One

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<v Speaker 1>woman influencer posted on X that Trump had just grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>Harris by the genitals on election Day. That post received

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three thousand views. Previous calls to repeal the nineteenth Amendment,

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<v Speaker 1>which previously spiked on X on October twenty second, resurfaced online.

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<v Speaker 1>Post calling for the repeal of the amendment increased by

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred and sixty three percent compared with the week prior.

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<v Speaker 1>The top ten posts at the time calling for the

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<v Speaker 1>repeal of the nineteenth Amendment received more than four million

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<v Speaker 1>views collectively. And for those who don't know the Nineteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>the men gives women the right to vote. A subset

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<v Speaker 1>of the narratives were threatening women with sexual assaults. ID

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<v Speaker 1>found five posts on x that called for sexual attack squads.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm paraphrasing here, the largest of which had eighteen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>views and came with the phrase your body, My choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Manisphere influencer on Andrew Tait, in a post on X

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<v Speaker 1>on November seventh, stated I saw a woman crossing the

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<v Speaker 1>road today, but I just kept my foot down right

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<v Speaker 1>of way. You no longer have rights. The post received

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred and eighty eight thousand views in under two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Another X user stated quote women threatening sex strikes like lmao,

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<v Speaker 1>as if you have a say. That post has received

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<v Speaker 1>ten million views. This is the Trump effect for people

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<v Speaker 1>that have voted for him. It just it's heartbreaking because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, the price of bread, the price again, No,

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<v Speaker 1>this is fundamentally changing the country how we treat each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody knows a way if you don't know a

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<v Speaker 1>black person, everybody knows a woman that they have to love.

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<v Speaker 2>And these feelings didn't come out after he was elected

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<v Speaker 2>that I can just grab them by the Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>was before he became the president. So it's again, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like he tricked us. It's not like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>how did we vote? For this guy and not know

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<v Speaker 2>he was so bad. No, we knew, we knew, and

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<v Speaker 2>we let it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And the toughest part of this whole thing is that

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<v Speaker 1>knowing on the other side of that Access Hollywood video

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<v Speaker 1>that effectively half of the country voted for him three times.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are things that I'll never understand. I think

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<v Speaker 1>your daughter was right. Normally, the good guy wins, the

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<v Speaker 1>nice guy wins, and yet and still here we are.