1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Hawks Live, presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from seven 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 2: No. 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: If you're your host, Michael Bumpis, that's Paul Moyer. 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: Welcome to Hawks Live. We got a live group right here. 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: What's up, how y'all doing? I am Michael Bumpus. Paul 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: Moyer is not here, but he's thinking about it. He 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: just had his second or third grand child. He's down 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: in Texas doing what he has to do. Instead, I 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: got my guy, Ray Roberts. Give it up one top 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: and right. 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: Robert, I'm better looking at Paul anyway. 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 4: Are you? 15 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 16 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 4: All right, I believe you. 17 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe you. 18 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: I'll let the people who make that judgment make that judgment, 19 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: but I'm alright with you real quick, right, all right? Hey, 20 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: So last week it's been a while since we since 21 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: we got down right. So the last time we saw 22 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: the Seahawks, they were playing against the New York Giants, 23 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: and we saw a great performance big Ray. We saw 24 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: that defense after Daniel Jones and the rest of the game, 25 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: and the critique is going to be, like, look, these 26 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: guys weren't playing against anybody who are the New York 27 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: Football Giants. They are a football team in the NFL. 28 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: So yes, you take it with a grain assault, but 29 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 2: you're also going to be like, look, you did something 30 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: that only a couple of teams have done since nineteen 31 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: eighty something. 32 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 33 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 5: I think the thing that the Seahawks need to take 34 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 5: away from it, especially the young guys on defense, it's like, 35 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 5: you hear all the messaging that Pete gives in the 36 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 5: locker room, always compete to earn everything, win it in 37 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 5: the fourth quarter, all that kind of stuff, and they 38 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 5: got to experience some of that in this game. They 39 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 5: also got to experience what it looks like when this 40 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 5: defense is working the way they designed it to work. 41 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 3: That is valuable. 42 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 5: It doesn't matter if you're playing against you know, the 43 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 5: New York Giants or the kitchen Sink, like you get 44 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 5: to see what it looks like when it works, and 45 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 5: so then that gives you a little bit more confidence 46 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 5: going into the next game. 47 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 48 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: The question coming into the offense are assuming the season, 49 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: was how good is this defense going to be? 50 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 4: I think you have Geno, you got. 51 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: Ken Walker, got DK, you got Locked and they were 52 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 2: able to keep the party going as far as winning 53 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: games and getting these clutch situations. 54 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 4: The question was a defense. 55 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: I look at this defense right now, and we haven't 56 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 2: seen them at full forest for a while. We saw 57 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: Jamal Adams for nine plays. I love the nine plays. 58 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: If you don't like Jamal Adams for nine plays, you 59 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 2: don't like what he does, then we will have a 60 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: conversation afterwards. He's holler at me and we'll make this 61 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: thing right, okay, But for nine plays, Jamal Adams looked 62 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: like the guy that we paid for a couple of 63 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: years ago. 64 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 65 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 5: I mean, he brings such a different dynamic to the team, 66 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 5: and he brings a different energy to the team, like 67 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 5: even like Quandre Diggs, just his excitement of having him 68 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 5: having this guy back on the field. And then you 69 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 5: saw like early in the game they sent him after 70 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 5: the quarterback. You know, he missed the sack, so that 71 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 5: could have been twelve sacks, but and then he had. 72 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: A big hit out in the flat. 73 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 5: Unfortunately the next time, you know, he got the concussion 74 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 5: and things. But he brings a different dynamic, of different 75 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 5: playmaking ynamic to the defense that they have. Some other 76 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 5: players they can put in there and can make plays. 77 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 5: But his plays are so impactful, so it'd be it's 78 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 5: good to see. 79 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: Him back on the field. The concussion thing was okay. 80 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 5: He didn't get suspended for having some words with the 81 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 5: with the with the official there on the sideline, and 82 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 5: so we'll expect to see him on Sunday. 83 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: That's what kind of bothered me a little bit about 84 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: the concussion things, because I don't know if you guys 85 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: have ever had a concussion. I've had a few myself diagnosed, 86 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: probably some that weren't diagnosed, right, I think you've had 87 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 2: some as well. 88 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 4: When you have a concussion, you're not there, right. 89 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 5: It would have been so unfair to punish this dude 90 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 5: for you have a concussion, so that means that you're 91 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 5: not thinking straight. You're probably not you know, you know, uh, 92 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 5: internalizing things and and uh and processing thing is the 93 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 5: right way. So I like that he was like, I mean, 94 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 5: maybe he really did want to go back in the game. 95 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 5: Maybe he felt like he was fine right there, but 96 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 5: you know, with the protocol, you can't can't go back 97 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 5: in the game, all right. 98 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: So there's a young man who had himself a day 99 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: against the New York Football We're gonna say his last 100 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: name on the count of three. Let's make sure on 101 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: the same page. Last name one, two three weatherspoon Man. 102 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: You look at this young man, what four games into 103 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: the league. You see the progression that he's working with. Right, 104 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: the first time we saw him, he had two passes 105 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: defended on fourth down, Boom. 106 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 4: He's good to go. 107 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: The very first series we saw him against the New 108 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: York Football Giants, he sets the edge right shoulder. 109 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 4: My guy, he's probably smaller than me. My guy sets 110 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 4: the edge. 111 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: He's making plays ninety seven yard touchdown, one yard away 112 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: from the franchise record. 113 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: Which was set by Bobby Wagner, which just baffled me. 114 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: I don't remember that. 115 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 2: How the heck does no one tackle bout Bobby for 116 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: ninety eight years. 117 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 3: Bobby was rolling out, but it seemed like it took 118 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: him a long time to get there. 119 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: He must have been like twenty four to twenty five 120 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 2: years old when it went down. No disrespect to Bobby, 121 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: one of the greatest seahows of all time. But what 122 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 2: have you seen out of this young man, Devin with 123 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: a spoon. 124 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: Well, it's the things that you can't teach, right, There's 125 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: one thing. There's there's guys that in the league. 126 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 5: They want to make sure that on Monday morning they 127 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 5: had a plus or yes beside their assignment. I was 128 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 5: in the right place, I was in the right depths, 129 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 5: I was looking at the right thing, I was reading 130 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 5: all that stuff. 131 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 3: Great, that's good. 132 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 5: But he has this element that you can't teach, of 133 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 5: instincts where he can kind of he understands what the 134 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 5: defense is trying to do, how they're trying to attack him, 135 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 5: and then how he can interrupt what they're trying trying 136 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 5: to get done. You can't some of that stuff you 137 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 5: can't coach. You just try to keep informing it. And 138 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 5: so he's with a great coach with you know, Pete 139 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 5: carroll Is. You know, we've had great defensive backs there. 140 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 5: You have Richard Sherman around all the time, all those 141 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 5: guys around. So if he can absorb all of that 142 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 5: knowledge and keep matching it with his instinct, he's gonna 143 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 5: I mean, he's already His coming out party was spectacular. 144 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 5: To have such a big night on the biggest stage 145 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 5: in the biggest city, you can't you can't beat that. 146 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: So the way you describe Devin Witherspoon I feel like 147 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: me at Disneyland with my family. 148 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 4: It's all instincts. 149 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: I'm looking around seeing who's doing what, where's my kid? 150 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 4: Right, It's all instincts. 151 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: And you can feel when something right right exactly, senses. 152 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: Take up and I'm like, look, something's going on over there. 153 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: Let's go this way now. Devin Witherspoon has been probably 154 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: the highlight of the secondary. We talked about Jamal Adams, 155 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: and we haven't seen the full Rek Wooling that we're 156 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: used to seeing either. 157 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 4: I can't wait to see what he does this weekend. 158 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, I hate comparing this group 159 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 5: to like the Legion of Boom because each group has 160 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 5: their own dynamic and their own skill set and all 161 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. But they are shaping up a 162 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 5: secondary that has the potential to have impact like that, 163 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 5: you know, maybe not one of the greatest, and you 164 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 5: know ever, because that's just kind of hard to say, 165 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 5: like like you still got to go out there and 166 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 5: do it. But they have all the talent, right Like 167 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 5: even Rek Woolan, who I think he had only played 168 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 5: he was a receiver in college, played his last year 169 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 5: at defensive back. Fourteen games, fourteen games, defensive back came, 170 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 5: you know, came here and right away. I remember Pete 171 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 5: Carroll talking about him in one of our production meetings, 172 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 5: and he got up and showed like how cool he 173 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 5: was getting into his stands and how calm he was 174 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff. So there's things that 175 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 5: his speed you cannot teach, you know, like the one 176 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 5: play last year where he was he was beating over 177 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 5: the top, he was running behind the receiver point to 178 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 5: the safety to get over however, and then just decided 179 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 5: to just turn it on against thee. Yeah, picked up 180 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 5: feed in the broke up the pass. You cannot teach that. 181 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 5: So you have two very unique corners. And then with 182 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 5: Usmoon places inside and outside. So you have these two 183 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 5: really unique corners with different types of skill sets, different 184 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 5: things that they bring to the team, but impactful in 185 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 5: the same way. 186 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: So let's look. 187 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: Forward to the Cincinnati Bengals. You guys, if you look 188 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: at this team on paper, you're saying, look, the thirty 189 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: first offense in the league, the thirty something run game 190 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: in the league. We all know who's over there. You 191 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: got Joe Burrow, you got Jamar Chase, you got Mixing. 192 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if Higgins is gonna play or now. 193 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,559 Speaker 2: But there's enough over there for you to spec Tyler 194 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: boy to to respect what's going on. When you look 195 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: at this matchup, what do you see? What should we expect? 196 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 5: Well, the thing, you know, the pass rush last week 197 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 5: was obviously awesome, you know, even the guys that didn't 198 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 5: get sacks, but the pressure rate was like very very high. Uh, 199 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 5: they have to keep doing that. But the difference is 200 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 5: that Joe Burrow isn't as big a threat to take 201 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 5: off and run the way Brown is. But he's very 202 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 5: crafty in the pocket right, So if you if you like, 203 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 5: if you're not sure, if you're not in your right lanes, 204 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 5: he can find a lane and then all of a 205 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 5: sudden he scrambling and hit somebody for a big play. 206 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 5: So it's gonna be important for them to keep the 207 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 5: pressure on them. The offensive line there is kind of 208 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 5: up and down. Some some weeks they play well, police 209 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 5: other weeks they don't play so well. To me, that's 210 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 5: probably the weakest part of the team. So it's gonna 211 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 5: be important for our front seven to really get after them. 212 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 5: Having planned from behind behind, the change behind on the scoreboard, 213 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 5: that kind of thing getting pressing a little bit, so uh, 214 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 5: I think you know, because that offense can be explosive. 215 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 5: Mixing is like the third leading receiver on the team 216 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 5: and he's the leading rusher, so you have to deal 217 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 5: with that. And then, like you said, Jamar Chase, and 218 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 5: if T. Higgins has playing T Higgins, some people think 219 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 5: it's a number one receiver on other teams, So it's 220 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 5: gonna be it's gonna be important to really have those 221 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 5: corners and the secondary match with the pass rush to 222 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 5: put some breaks on this offense. 223 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: A guy for the Bengals who probably doesn't get enough 224 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: love with the public, but within his peers he does 225 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: is Trey Henderson. 226 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: Man, this guy can play. 227 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: He made the Pro Bowl and only had six sects, 228 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: So that lets you know, like how people think of 229 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: this guy. And when you have an offensive line that's 230 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 2: trying to figure out who's going to be available, who's 231 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: not going to be available. I've been impressed with how 232 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: they've been able to get five guys together and just 233 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: take care of Gino. What do you expect when you 234 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: look at that matchup with D line and offensive line. 235 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 5: Well, I think, you know, with Charles Cross coming back, 236 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 5: I think you're probably gonna still maybe at first give 237 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 5: him a little help, just kind of see how it's going. 238 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 5: But I means what tight end on, tight end on 239 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 5: the side, or put a running back over there to 240 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 5: chip on the on the way out right. But I 241 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 5: do think that in his best health self, I think 242 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 5: Charles Charles Cross can handle him by himself. The thing 243 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 5: that Hendrickson get you with is his hustle. He just 244 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 5: doesn't stop and so that's how he gets That's how 245 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 5: he gets a lot of sacks. But they also have 246 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 5: uh Sam Hubbard, he has a couple of sacks, and 247 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 5: then they have another defensive tackle Bjhilo or Hall I 248 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 5: think it is. He has two and a half sacks. 249 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 5: So it's gonna be worked for the whole offensive line. 250 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 5: But they've done Andy Dickerson has done a great job 251 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 5: coaching these dues up, and these dudes have done a 252 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 5: great job taking what they've learned in practice to the 253 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 5: game field. 254 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm happy to be back. I took a week off. 255 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: We got a great crowd in front of us, Hi 256 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: y'all doing. We got Big Ray filling in for Paul 257 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: boy yay covering them. Next we'll dive into the Sea 258 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: How's Week six opponent with the Cincinnati Bengals with Jeff 259 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: Hobson from Bengals dot Com. 260 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 4: That's next right here on Hawks Live. 261 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue 262 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court Live on Sports. 263 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back to hog Slide, presented by the Donyesic as 264 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: the Bell Bey Collects. 265 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 4: Get a live show. 266 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 2: We out here baby, seven o'clock every Thursday. Right here, 267 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: I'm Michael Bumpins. I'm with Big Ray Robinson right now. 268 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: We're joined by Jeff Hobson from Bengals dot Com. Is 269 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 2: it Bengals are Bengals? How do you guys say it? 270 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 2: It's almost like when I went to Idaho, I said 271 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 2: Boise and someone said, no, it's Boise. 272 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 4: What is it? What is it? 273 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 6: Jeff Ray Roberts is there. That's jus. 274 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 3: What's something? Don't all right? 275 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 4: Hey, that's how famous my man is. 276 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: He said, forget your question. I'm going straight to Ray Roberts. 277 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 4: Man. 278 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: Hey, Jeff Man, how you guys doing. What are your 279 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: thoughts on this offense? 280 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 4: Man? 281 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: Because you look at this team on paper and I 282 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: try to tell people, I go look this is not 283 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: who they are, all right, it's been rough with with 284 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 2: Burrow having his calf injury. What are your thoughts on 285 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 2: this office and what should we expect at Seahawks fans? 286 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, you know, you hit it right on 287 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 6: the head. I mean, it's everything connected to the calf. 288 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 6: And if he can move, and he's clearly going to 289 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 6: have to move Sunday or he's got a lot of problems. 290 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 6: If he can move, they're an offense and if he's struggling, 291 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 6: they're going to struggle. So you know, it looks like 292 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 6: it's on the upside. 293 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 294 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 6: He had a good league, He had a good he 295 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 6: had a good enough week last week that he told 296 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 6: the guys leading up to the Arizona game, I think 297 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 6: I'm gonna be able to buy time. I think I'm 298 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 6: gonna be able to get out of the pocket. And 299 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 6: he was able to sounds like he's saying the same 300 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 6: stuff you know now, But you know, hey, it's a 301 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 6: it's a soft tissue injury. Who knows, but uh, it's 302 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 6: only getting better in the last three weeks. And that's 303 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 6: you know, you got to keep your fingers crossed and 304 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 6: we'll see the same guy out there that we saw 305 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 6: Sunday in Arizona, but completely different defense they're playing. I mean, 306 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 6: I'm hot. I was high pressed, uh you know, to 307 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 6: name to name the guy in the Arizona defense. But 308 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 6: that's that's not the way with Seattle coming in. 309 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, speaking of Seattle's defense, last week, they produced eleven 310 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 5: eleven sacks, numerous hurries, a pick six. How I know 311 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 5: in the pass the offensive line for Cincinnati has struggled 312 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 5: at times to protect Joe Burrow. How has they how 313 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 5: have they played this year? And then you know, what 314 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 5: do you think their matchup is with our defensive our 315 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 5: defensive front. 316 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 6: You know, I think I think they're better than they've 317 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 6: been perceived. I think people look at him and they 318 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 6: still think they're the same guys that blocked two years 319 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 6: ago in the Super Bowl, you know, or they think 320 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 6: they're the same guys that block in the championship game 321 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 6: in Kansas City. But no, that's that's the completely different line. 322 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 6: That line in Kansas City last year was missing three stars. 323 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 6: So you know, you could trace a lot of his 324 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 6: pressure early in the season once to the fact that 325 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 6: he could really move. I think, honestly, I think the 326 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 6: line is done. Has done pretty well. I mean, I 327 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 6: I think given it the fact that the quarterbacks you know, 328 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 6: was mobile, immobile for much of the season, they gave 329 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 6: up some sacks, they gave up some pressures. That was 330 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 6: the game plan early on, was they played man. They 331 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 6: would press and they would just come at Borrow and 332 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 6: he all he could do is get rid of it 333 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 6: or he gets sacked. So, you know, I think, I 334 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 6: just think the Bengals offensive line, you know, up until 335 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 6: the Arizona game, you know, mixing him to getting four 336 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 6: and a half yeys you carried. So I just think 337 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 6: they're probably not where they want to be after really 338 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 6: you know, spending all that money the last two offseasons. 339 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 6: But they're pretty good. 340 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 7: I think. 341 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 6: I think they're better than people think. 342 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: Jeff, I know you you've done your research. You watched 343 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: the film and Jamar Chase let everybody know that he's 344 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: always freaking open apparently, and I believe him. 345 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: He's one of the best receivers in the league. 346 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: Gyt fifteen catches last week franchise working for the Cincinnati Bengals. 347 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: Is there something that's missing within this offense or was 348 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: it just Joe Burrow not being healthy that didn't allow 349 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase to be the guy that we're used to 350 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: sing until last week. 351 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good question. I think Arizona kind of 352 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 6: played him soft. They played zone, you know, they let 353 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 6: him get him into the spaces, you know. I think 354 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 6: that they've been moving him around a lot, and I 355 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 6: think he's a lot more comfortable now getting moved around 356 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 6: than he might have been three weeks ago. Barrow obviously 357 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 6: has a lot to do with it his health, you know, 358 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 6: And but I do think a lot of it's probably 359 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 6: been the you know, the defenses they've played, you know, 360 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 6: And I think this, I think there's a timing issue too. 361 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 6: I think people forget that, you know. I mean, I 362 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 6: know Burrow would Chase. It seems like they've been playing 363 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 6: since you know, Pop Warnau. But he Burrow didn't practice 364 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 6: for thirty four days. He basically, I mean he missed 365 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 6: all a training camp and didn't start practicing until ten 366 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 6: days until the Open. So you know, that's a lot 367 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 6: of back shoulders, that's a lot of you know, that's 368 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 6: a lot of high points. So I just think I 369 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 6: just think everything's starting to come together. 370 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 5: That a little bit well on that defensive side of 371 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 5: the ball, you guys have gotten some some good production 372 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 5: in the pass rush with Hendrickson and Hubbard and even 373 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 5: one of the defensive tackles at Hill or Hall. 374 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: I can't b J b J Hill. 375 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 6: I think it is yeah, J right, right. 376 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: But what makes Hendrickson so different? 377 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 8: Uh? 378 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 5: I mean he has six sacks already in the season. 379 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 5: It's not the biggest dude or the fastest dude, but 380 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 5: but he's made Pro Bowls with less than ten ten 381 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 5: sacks and things like that. What what makes them special 382 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 5: and good for this defense? 383 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 6: Never never stops. Got a motor. You know, he's got 384 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 6: one of those motors. And uh you you can't. I mean, 385 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 6: the guy's relentless, and he's got you know, I mean 386 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 6: his first I mean his get off. People talk about 387 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 6: his get off all the time, and it's, uh, you know, 388 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 6: the guy's the guy's almost invisible boom, he's gone, you 389 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 6: know that first that first step, you know, and uh, 390 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 6: you know the other thing is he's you know, if 391 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 6: you talk to the guy, he's just he's a very 392 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 6: very focused guy. And uh it is uh you know, 393 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 6: it's get to the quarterback or or or or or 394 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 6: it's a bad snap, and you know but it's that 395 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 6: it's that first I mean, it's that first step. I mean, 396 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 6: he is a he's a really a handful out there. 397 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 6: And the other guy on the other side of him, 398 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 6: Sam Hubbard, Uh, you know, he's I guess he's the 399 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 6: I guess he's probably the stereotypical you know, left end. 400 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 6: I going into this year, he had the most tackles, uh, 401 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 6: you know, of any any edge player since twenty eighteen 402 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 6: in the league. So but he he he can do 403 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 6: more than play to run too, and that he kind 404 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 6: of and and they get a pretty good rotation going 405 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 6: with those SI you know, coming off the bench. Camp 406 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 6: samples a solid guy, so they're pretty deep there. Didn't 407 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 6: have to you know, he doesn't have to play every 408 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 6: third down or every passion down. 409 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 2: Jeff, how quickly things change with an organization. When I 410 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 2: was coming up, we looked at the Cincinnati Bengals in five. 411 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: Okay, we'll see what happens. 412 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: But now there are expectations over there, and so far 413 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: this year you haven't met them. But I feel like 414 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: the the fan base is educated enough to know that, okay, 415 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 2: good times are coming. What's the vibe like over there 416 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: with the fan base when it comes to the Bengals. 417 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 6: Well, that's a pretty good call right there, and I 418 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 6: didn't need to be dismissive of your question. We do 419 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 6: call it Bengals, although several people do even people around 420 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 6: here called Bangles. But it is Bengals, and I think 421 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 6: the uh, you know, it's a it's a pretty it's 422 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 6: when it comes to football, you don't get you know, 423 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 6: you don't get more knowledgeable than Ohio. You know, the 424 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 6: folks live in breeze football. The Friday nights around here 425 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 6: are unbelievable. 426 00:18:59,600 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 7: You know. 427 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 6: It's it's like college games and our high school games 428 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 6: and uh, you know, they get it. There's also a 429 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 6: sense of h in Borrow. We trust, you know, and 430 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 6: they've seen a lot of magical things these last couple 431 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 6: of years. So but you know, it's they're they're two 432 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 6: and three. It's a tough division. So I would say 433 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 6: it's a uh folks are you know, they're worried about 434 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 6: this one. They know what sir Pete has you know, 435 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 6: to me, uh, to me, Pete Carroll, he's the he's 436 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 6: one of the best. He and they and and and 437 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 6: to me's uh, it's the ball, you know. Uh uh 438 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 6: the Seattle's the NFC version of of Baltimore. You know, 439 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 6: they're gonna come in, they're gonna control the clock, they're 440 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 6: gonna be physical, they're gonna they're gonna beat you up. 441 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 6: They're gonna play great defense. The special teams, you know, 442 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 6: that's a nice little matchup. This this this trip heer 443 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 6: that people don't talk about, but you know, Darren Simmons, 444 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 6: the longest tenured special teams coach in the league, going 445 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 6: against the very good Larry A group there that that 446 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 6: you know, Pete always make sure he's got great specialty. 447 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 6: So we've seen this sack for full with Baltimore, and 448 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 6: uh and they didn't they didn't beat Baltimore this trip. 449 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 6: And so it's, uh, you know, it's a it's a hopeful, 450 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 6: optimistic fan base, but like any fan base, it's you know, 451 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 6: uh uh, it's a little bit. Every fan base is always. 452 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 4: Nervous, right, yeah, stay nervous. 453 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 2: Unless you are just a dominant franchise like the Pages 454 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: for twenty years, you better be nervous. But you know what, Jeff, 455 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: they're nervous to man, Hey, we appreciate your time, thanks 456 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: for staying up and holler out us man we'll talk. 457 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 4: To you soon. 458 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 8: Appreciate it. 459 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 6: Thanks guys. 460 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 3: All right, Jeff all right. 461 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: That is Jeff Hopson from Bengals dot Com. 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Jake, Just 486 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: straight up, I'm five to eleven a buckety five. So 487 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: I found a new respect for the offensive line. 488 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 4: Man, When did you know you gotta be? 489 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 7: You got to be the first high schooler to ask 490 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 7: ask to play the offense? 491 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: I know it right, Hey, I wanted I wanted it all. 492 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: I played quarterback, running back, receiver. I go one am 493 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: I missing offensive line, so I had to had to 494 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: go do it. 495 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 4: And I'll never do it again, Jake, I'll never do 496 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: it again. 497 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 3: Man. 498 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: When did you know you're gonna be an old lineman? 499 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 2: Because I hear a lot of old linemen tell me 500 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: there were tight ends at the time, there were dns. 501 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: When did you know that this was your path? 502 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: Well? 503 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 7: I didn't actually start playing football until I got into 504 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 7: high school, and at that point I was probably six 505 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 7: or four already, and you know, two hundred, I don't know, 506 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 7: thirty forty pounds, and they didn't give me too much 507 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 7: of an option there. So it was, you know, stick 508 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 7: me on the line and figure it out. 509 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 5: Hey, big Jake, you guys have had to shuffle a 510 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 5: bunch of guys in and out with the with the 511 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 5: injuries and things that have done a tremendous job. What 512 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 5: is it about Andy Dickerson's style and approach to coaching 513 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 5: that gets gets you all you guys ready to come 514 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 5: in and perform this way? 515 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I think in practice we switch it 516 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 7: around a lot. You know, unless you're one of the 517 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 7: guys who you know has as a starting position lockdown 518 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 7: going into the season, you kind of got to be 519 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 7: able to play in a couple of different places. So yeah, 520 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 7: you know, whether that's switching around between tackling guard or 521 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 7: swinging at one of those positions or playing all interior three. 522 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 7: I think, you know, everybody we have has the ability 523 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 7: to flex the multiple different positions. And then with that, 524 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 7: you know, we play next to a lot of different guys, 525 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 7: so yeah, I mean it's you know, we we've got 526 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 7: a lot of chemistry built between us and between a 527 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 7: lot of different combinations. And then in terms of Andy, 528 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 7: I think, you know, we just do a good job 529 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 7: in the meetings and the walkthroughs, going over all the 530 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 7: assignments and making sure everything's clear and really understanding how 531 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 7: to take those metal reps to make sure you're prepared Jake. 532 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: No matter what defense your face, and whether it be 533 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 2: forty two bots or third thirty four front, you face 534 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 2: consistently one of the most athletic positions on the field 535 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: when it comes to getting. 536 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 4: After the quarterback. 537 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, does that stress you out? Like, take me 538 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: into what it's like being off the tack. I'm sitting 539 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: next to one right now, top ten pig. What's it 540 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: like for you? 541 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 7: Man? I No, not really. You know, I always played 542 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 7: tackle all the way through high school and through college, 543 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 7: so that's you know, where I'm comfortable. I get more 544 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 7: stress out when I have to slide inside, because that's 545 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 7: for me. I didn't start doing that until two years 546 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 7: ago when I when I had to come into the league. 547 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 7: But no, you know, it's you know, a lot of 548 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 7: it's about just angles and understanding what you're good at 549 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 7: and making sure that you're in the right spot. So 550 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 7: you're only giving them one direction to beat you. And 551 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 7: it's a whole lot harder for those guys to do 552 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 7: that if you're only giving them one choice. So h yeah, 553 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 7: I mean now, it probably did when I was a 554 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 7: freshman or sophomore in college, but at this point, I've 555 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 7: gotten a whole lot of reps out there, So that's 556 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 7: that's where I'm comfortable. 557 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 5: Hey, Jake, for the last month or so, you guys 558 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 5: have had Jason Peters in the room. It's a pretty 559 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 5: young room without him in there. But what have you guys, 560 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 5: what has he brought to the room, What have you 561 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 5: guys learned from him been in a room? Have you 562 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 5: had a chance to kind of pick his brain about 563 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 5: some things at the tackle spot? 564 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 7: Yeah? Absolutely, I mean that was that was huge getting 565 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 7: him in here. Obviously, Hall of Fame level player has 566 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 7: been around the league for you know, I was probably 567 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 7: not even I definitely wasn't even ten years old yet 568 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 7: when when he started out playing. So yeah, no, it's 569 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 7: it's been It's been great having JP around. I've definitely 570 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 7: picked his brain a little bit. And I know, like myself, 571 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 7: Stone and some of the newer, younger tackles, we have 572 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 7: have been working with him a lot after practice and 573 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 7: just asking questions like, you know, here's what we got 574 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 7: this week, how do you deal with this type of 575 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 7: rusher or this this type of on whatever play? And 576 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 7: he's a guy that's seen everything, so that's been huge. 577 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 7: And the other part that's been huge about it is 578 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 7: he got in here right before we were going to 579 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 7: play the Lions, and you know, I feel like he 580 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 7: kind of reminded me to just play my game rather 581 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 7: than like, you know, over or take coaching too far, 582 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 7: like try to you know, do too much or not 583 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 7: do what I'm good at. Instead focus on like the 584 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 7: things that have gotten me to be successful at you know, 585 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 7: college and at this level. And that's been really helpful. 586 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: Jake, you're your leader. 587 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: Out there is Geno Smith and Ray and I did 588 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: the pre high time and postgame show for you guys, 589 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 2: so we get an opportunity to hear Geno Smith speak 590 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: after the game. But during the game, I look at Geno, 591 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 2: I'd be like, man, he's fiery. Man, he gets hot 592 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: out there. What's it like in a huddle with him 593 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: in a tense moment? 594 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:05,239 Speaker 4: Man? 595 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 2: Those are one of the things that I missed when 596 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 2: it comes to playing football, is being in the huddle 597 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: and having those conversations. What's it like when it's with 598 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: the games on the line? And uh, and you guys 599 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: need to make a play with Gino? 600 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean Gino is a competitor, man, and I 601 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 7: know you Uh, there's been the a clip from the 602 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 7: Lions game where the rest picked him up, and then 603 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 7: there was some some times that we got a little 604 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 7: bit dicey against the Giants, uh two weeks ago. I'm 605 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 7: sure that's what you're kind of referring to. But yeah, No, 606 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 7: he's a competitor and if something doesn't go his way 607 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 7: or something doesn't doesn't seem like they necessarily did the 608 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 7: right thing there, he'll he'll get fired up, and he's 609 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 7: you know, I think I speak for most of the 610 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 7: guys when he kind of loves seeing a quarterback go 611 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 7: get after some other guys. He's not afraid, he's not 612 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 7: going to back down, So we love that. But when 613 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 7: it when it's when it's time to go and it's 614 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 7: a tense moment and we need to get something done, 615 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 7: he reeled it back in. But yeah, I mean, you 616 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 7: love seeing that kind of fire out of a guy 617 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 7: that plays a position that isn't necessarily as physical as 618 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 7: the ten other positions on offense. So yeah, that's fun 619 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 7: to see and I think it fires all the guys up. 620 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 5: Hey, Jake, you guys have two really good running backs, 621 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 5: and Kenneth Walker and and Charbonney, two totally different type, 622 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 5: two different styles, though, and I get asked this all 623 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 5: the time, been off of the lineman. Do you block 624 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 5: differently or does it matter who's back there? How do 625 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 5: you How have you guys as an offensive line approached 626 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 5: to two different styles? 627 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I don't even know 628 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 7: if I noticed sometimes when they switch them in and 629 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 7: out until they get past me. So no, it's the 630 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 7: same play as all that. You know, they might have 631 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 7: different personnel packages for different plays. That's you know, supposed 632 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 7: to be for Zach or Ken or you know, DJ 633 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 7: with some of the wildcat stuff too. So I'm sure 634 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 7: they have their their own runs, but I'm not I'm 635 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 7: not worried about, you know, who's back there necessarily. Obviously, 636 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 7: they're different style players. You know, Zach's one cut and 637 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 7: then gonna go run over a couple of people, and Ken, 638 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 7: you know, seems I would hate if I had to 639 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 7: try to tackle Ken just because he makes everybody miss 640 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 7: him fall over. But uh no, they're they're both really 641 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 7: good players, and they're they're both fun to block for. 642 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 7: But we're just running our stuff. 643 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 4: And then you. 644 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 7: Know, if Zach's in there, he's gonna he's gonna make 645 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 7: one cut and then run a few guys over and 646 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 7: if Ken's in there, he might run completely the opposite 647 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 7: way and then take it for a touchdown because he's 648 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 7: just you know that good at uh making people miss 649 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 7: so uh the same the same stuff for us. 650 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 4: So Jake, Man, we appreciate your time. We call you missus. 651 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 4: Stay ready over here. 652 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: Man, because wherever they need you, you are ready to go. 653 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 3: Man. 654 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: You enjoyed or your Thursday. I don't know if you 655 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: play video games, it's chilling with your girl. I don't 656 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: know what you're doing. 657 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 4: But enjoy your Thursday, and we appreciate your time. Man. 658 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks, guys, shit. 659 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 4: You have me one all right? 660 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: That is Jake kerrham Man, one of the most versatile linemen. 661 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: Bick Ray's been talking about Jay Curran for a long time. 662 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: When it comes to this offensive line. When we return, 663 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: we'll go around the NFL. 664 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 4: Man. 665 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the Chiefs, the Broncos, the Jets, 666 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 2: the Bills, whatever feels right. 667 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 4: That is next right here on Hawk's lot. 668 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: Hawks Slive presented by the Dining District of a Bellevue 669 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, live on air on 670 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: Seattle Sports. 671 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 4: What's up. 672 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: This is Hawks Live. I'm Michael Bombas with Ray Roberts. 673 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: We got a great crowd in front of us. I 674 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: know what you're all waiting for. That dB that's gonna 675 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: be here pretty soon Dev Witherspoon. But every Thursday, right here, 676 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: seven o'clock BB Squares Center Court, we will be here 677 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: on Michael Bamas with Ray rovers Like I mentioned, man, 678 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: and it's time to go around the NFL. If you're 679 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: looking at the Thursday night game sixteen to zero, the 680 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: Chiefs lead the Broncos. 681 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 4: I'm not surprised. Are you surprised? 682 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: No, I'm not. 683 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 5: You know, the the Broncos are a train wreck right now, 684 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 5: and you know, I can't even say that. You know, 685 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 5: I kind of feel sorry for Russell because he has 686 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 5: played some okay football, but that whole franchise is just 687 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 5: kind of like a dumpster fire right now. So I 688 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 5: don't know if it's gonna get any better if the 689 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 5: season goes on. But the Chiefs seem like they started 690 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 5: out a little bit slow this year, but to start 691 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 5: to find the rhythm, so we'll see how they finish. 692 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 4: You guys are ready for some reality. 693 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: I'm talking to the live crowd here the forty nine 694 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: ers are good guys. 695 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 4: They are good. 696 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: Boom boo that team, do you hear boo? 697 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 4: That team? 698 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 3: That's a soft boom man? 699 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 4: Y'all sure because they know that seems pretty good. 700 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: We got Brian Perdy, Deebo, Samuel, Christian McCaffrey, Brandon, I 701 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: you George Killder defensively, Fred Warrener greenlaw Ward. 702 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 4: Gibson, who fun good. 703 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: I'm looking at these guys and I go, look, it's 704 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: a blessing and a curse that they're in our division 705 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: because we know we are going to get a chance 706 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: to play them and see what this team is really 707 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: made of. 708 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 4: When you look at the forty nine ers, what do 709 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 4: you see? 710 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 5: Well, my rookie year with the Seahawks, we went and 711 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 5: played the Dallas Cowboys and I don't think we crossed 712 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 5: the fifty yard line but one time, and it seemed 713 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 5: like they had about fifty dudes on defense. I swear, 714 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 5: if you block two of them, three of them came free. 715 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 5: And that's what their defense looks like to me. It 716 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 5: just seems like their defense overwhelms other offenses. I mean, 717 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 5: they're just I mean, Fred Warner's coming from everywhere. You 718 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 5: got Bosa doing you know, his thing, and it's just 719 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 5: like they have players all over the place. 720 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 3: And then on offense, man, you can call. 721 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 5: Party a game manager or you know, he's lucky they 722 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 5: has the offensive quarter the head coach, he has, or 723 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 5: the weapons around him. But this dude is doing what 724 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 5: he's what they pay him to do, and he's doing 725 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 5: it at a very high level. So it's a little 726 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 5: bit scary because his confidence is sky high, right, and 727 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 5: so then he's gonna take some chances and make some 728 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 5: throws and do some things. McCaffrey is just unreal. McCaffrey 729 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 5: might be like one of the top MVP candidates right now. 730 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 3: They have some really good football players. 731 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, all around on that team. 732 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: As a quarterback, you don't have to be the best 733 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: quarterback in the league. You just got to run the system. 734 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: I think that's what Rod Perdy is doing. All right, 735 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: Let's let's shift over to the AFC. 736 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 4: Man. I'm looking at the Buffalo Bills. 737 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 2: And I'm trying to figure them out because i think 738 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: you lose that first game against the Jets, you put 739 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: some games together, you lose another one, and I'm not 740 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 2: sure what to make of the Buffalo Bills. I know 741 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: they have Josh Allen, one of the best quarterbacks in 742 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: the league, Stefan Diggs one of the best receivers in 743 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: the league. But defensively, they're not the team that we're 744 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: used to seeing. When you see the Bills, what type 745 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: of field do you get? 746 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 5: I don't feel like I can trust him, right, Yeah, Like, honestly, 747 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 5: the only dude, the only dude I feel like I 748 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 5: can trust on that entire team is Stefan Diggs. Yep, 749 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 5: because he's gonna He's a great route runner. You know, 750 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 5: he doesn't drop a whole lot of footballs. He makes 751 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 5: big plays. I've known this dude since he's in high school, 752 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 5: and he's been the same dude the entire time. 753 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 4: Is that how he knows this high school. 754 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 5: He's from Maryland and they were recruiting at Virginia when 755 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 5: I was working there, and so I was able to 756 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 5: talk to him and his family trying to convince him 757 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 5: to come to UVA. But his little brother with them too, 758 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 5: not at the time, him and his pops. Okay, yeah, 759 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 5: and uh, but no, he's a he's a fantastic player. 760 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 5: I just don't have a whole lot of faith faith 761 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 5: in allan too consistently play well and consistently protect the ball. 762 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 5: I still I still like it's you know, they did 763 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 5: kind of get tempered down a little bit, but I 764 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 5: still like I still feel like I have more faith 765 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 5: in the Dolphins than the than the Buffalo. 766 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: But really, yeah, what. 767 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 4: Do you like about the Dolphins? 768 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 5: I just like to I like what they try to 769 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 5: do on offense, speed kills. You know, speed freaking covers 770 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 5: up a lot of bad things. It's a bend aid 771 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 5: for a lot of things, you know, And so they 772 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 5: have some good speed on both sides of the ball. 773 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 5: And I don't know, I like I like Mike McDaniel's 774 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 5: he's a he's an interesting dude. They try to come 775 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 5: up with, you know, he tried to make it sound 776 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 5: like he's trying to come up with new offense. 777 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 3: I don't know how new it. 778 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 5: Is other than he just has something freaking for by 779 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 5: one hundred USA track team. Uh but uh, But I 780 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 5: just like his approach to it as cool and calm. 781 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 5: He doesn't like, you know, every week, you don't get 782 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 5: some big, huge statement out of him. And I think 783 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 5: they're one of those teams that people can easily go like, oh, 784 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 5: they're a big splash to start out with and just 785 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 5: kind of. 786 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 3: Write them off. But they're still right there. 787 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 4: All right, we're going back to the NFC. Who here 788 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 4: thinks the Cowboys are legit? One hand? 789 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: We got one hand out of a thousand people I'm 790 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 2: looking at right now, one hand out of a thousand 791 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: thinks the Cowboys are legit. I look at the Cowboys 792 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 2: in every year, right, when you spend money and you 793 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: put players on paper, you're gonna say, you know what, 794 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: they got a chance to win, you know what, Ray Roberts, 795 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: I've been around this earth a few times. I've been 796 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: around the sun, excuse me a few times, right, and 797 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: not since the early nineties have the Cowboys been legit? 798 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 4: And unfortunately, I. 799 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 2: Look at Dak Prescott and I go, man, I just 800 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: don't know. I root for him, I just don't know 801 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: if he's capable of doing it. The Cowboys taking l 802 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 2: to the forty nine ers last week. 803 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on the Cowboys? 804 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys are I don't want to call them. 805 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 5: They're almost They're an almost team, Like every every position 806 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 5: is almost good enough. The quarterbacks almost good enough to 807 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 5: make you just kind of hanging there with him a 808 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 5: little bit. Make you believe, make you believe. The offensive 809 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 5: line is the same way, even though they have some 810 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 5: some all pro type players, but that hurt a lot 811 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 5: in and out of the game. On defense, Parsons, to me, 812 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 5: is a legit player. Sometimes you just talk a little 813 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 5: too much and you bring too much heat to yourself. 814 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 5: Digs on the in the secondary. You know he does, 815 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 5: he gets the ball, he turns it over a lot. 816 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 5: He's not playing right now because of injuries, but you 817 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 5: know he can be beaten too. 818 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 3: And so sometimes. 819 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 5: Like you like to play against dogs or players that 820 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 5: bark the loudest sometimes because usually that's insecurity. 821 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 3: They're trying to cover something up. 822 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 5: Because if you're that good, you don't have to tell 823 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 5: a whole lot of people, you know what I'm saying. 824 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 5: It just happens now. Some people are a little bit different. 825 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 5: Richard Sherman was a talker, but you know, you could 826 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 5: see his game until he was balling out. But the 827 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,479 Speaker 5: Cowboys they're kind of ten good, you know what I'm saying. 828 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 3: They can be good. 829 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 5: I don't know if they show up in the big moments. 830 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 5: I don't know if the coaching shows up in the 831 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 5: big moment. So I can't grew up a Cowboy fan, though, 832 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 5: grew up a Cowboy fan who wanted to play for 833 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 5: the Cowboys, almost got drafted by the Cowboys. They won 834 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 5: I don't know, two or three Super Bowls in my 835 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 5: first four or five years in the league. 836 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 3: I was here in Seattle fourteen, but. 837 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 2: No so. 838 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 5: But I've always had a little bit of heart for 839 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 5: the Cowboys. But they just seem like they they talk 840 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 5: to talk, but don't necessarily walk the walk when it counts. 841 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it matters, I feel that. 842 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 2: And some controversy went down with that Cowboys Niners game. 843 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,720 Speaker 2: So when we talk best tight ends in the game, 844 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 2: I think you gotta go Kelsey, you gotta go Mark Andrews, 845 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 2: you gotta go Waller, and then you gotta go Kittle. 846 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: Kittle had himself a day, three catches, three touchdowns, sixty 847 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 2: seven yards. 848 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 4: Any raise his jersey and it said. 849 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 2: Freaking the Cowboys something like that. You guys get my jerk, Right, 850 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 2: I've seen guys fine for socks in the NFL. 851 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 6: Right. 852 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 2: Do you think the NFL should find George Kittle for 853 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 2: uh freaking Yeah? 854 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 5: I think they should, just because that's what they do, 855 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 5: He'll he'll get some hefty fine. However, I love it. 856 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 5: I love like sometimes the NFL. 857 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 2: There's kids, you got kids still, It's like sometimes the 858 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 2: NFL just kind of like dampers down the fun so much, 859 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 2: and they damper down the physicality and just the natural. 860 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 5: Trash talking and stuff that comes with the sport. 861 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 3: And uh and I like that. 862 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 5: George Kittle was like, whatever they find me, it's worth it. 863 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 3: Like it was. It was awesome. 864 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 5: Then you got Parsons Jawn with you know, he has 865 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 5: a little podcast and he's going back and forth with 866 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 5: Deebo Samuels. 867 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 3: I love that kind of stuff. 868 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 5: It's part of I mean, when I grew up playing 869 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 5: on the playground, it was like that, you played the 870 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 5: other neighborhoods, you're talking trash to them, you're doing whatever. 871 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden you get to the 872 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 5: league and they try to make it so so professional 873 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 5: that it takes some of that out of it. And 874 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 5: so I like all of that stuff that's happening right now, 875 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 5: because at some point you're gonna have to line up 876 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 5: across from the dudes and you're gonna have to, you know, 877 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 5: put your money where your mouth is, you know, and 878 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 5: that's where that's where it matters. 879 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 2: I like that, you know, because well my kids, you know, 880 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 2: I drop a couple things every now. 881 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 4: Man, just let them know that this is what reality is. 882 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 3: Though. 883 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 4: But no, I'm with you. 884 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: I think that I appreciate George Kittle bringing people back 885 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 2: to reality because if you were miked up back when 886 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 2: you were playing, could you imagine the things that we 887 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 2: would hear? 888 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you were playing? 889 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 5: Well, I know one time I was breaking the team 890 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 5: down in Detroit and you know, they have the big 891 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 5: boom mics over and my mom heard what I said. 892 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 3: And and so after the. 893 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 5: Game, after the game, I had all these calls from 894 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 5: my mom, like she's calling me as a game is 895 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 5: going on, Like I'm like, I'm gonna go to the 896 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 5: sideline and pick the phone up and uh. And she 897 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 5: was just like, hey boy, like I taught you better 898 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 5: than that. I'm like, what are you talking about? And 899 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 5: she's like, I heard what you said on TV. And 900 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 5: I still have no idea what she's talking about. I'm like, 901 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 5: what are you talking about? 902 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 4: Mom? 903 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 3: She's like, before the game, he was. 904 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 5: Talking to the team and you said this, and you 905 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 5: said that, And I'm like mom like, like, I'm a 906 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 5: different dude when that happened. I'm not junior at that point. 907 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 5: I'm Ray, you know what I'm saying. And Ray is 908 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 5: a different dude when he snaps his chin straps like, 909 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 5: so next time, just don't listen to the pregame park 910 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 5: just wait till the wait till the game starts. But yeah, 911 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 5: it's it's some very choice words even during Like at 912 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 5: one point I think a few years ago, they were 913 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 5: talking about micing up, putting more mics on the field 914 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 5: so you can hear. 915 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 3: What guys were saying. That you don't want that. 916 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 5: You don't want that at all, And you thought there 917 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 5: would be no kids watching football. 918 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 2: He wasn't Ray, he was Big Ray in that moment. 919 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,439 Speaker 2: You don't mess with Big Ray. Yeah, all right, when 920 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 2: we returned the moment you guys have all been waiting for, 921 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon will be here in person. Well, talk to 922 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 2: the Ricky sensation that is next right here. 923 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: On Hawk's Live Hawks Slive, presented by the Dining District 924 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: at the Bellevue Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every 925 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: Thursday from seven to nine live on air on Seattle Sports. 926 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: No if you're your hosts, Michael Bumpis and Paul Moyer. 927 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Hawks Live on Michael Bompas with Ray Roberts. 928 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 2: Paul Moyer just had his second or third grandchild, so 929 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 2: he's in Tashs. As our local cowboy would say here, 930 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 2: I would tell them to bullie you, but I like 931 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 2: you too much. I'm not going to do that too, okay, 932 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: And we're looking Here's the thing when you draft guys 933 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 2: who aren't from the area, bellvy's confusing sometimes. You know, 934 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 2: I'm from California, where it takes thirty minutes to go 935 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 2: five minutes, and you figure it out. But we're looking 936 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 2: for Devin with the spoon and he will be here, 937 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 2: don't you worry. But in the meantime, we're gonna do 938 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 2: a little song of dance a little bit, all right, 939 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 2: We're gonna focus on this matchup between the Bengals. Isn't 940 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 2: as simple as just having a quarterback who's better than 941 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 2: the next quarterback. Now, Joe Burrow is the highest paid 942 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 2: player in the NFL for a reason. He's taking this 943 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 2: scene to a super Bowl, back to back conference championships. 944 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 2: He has done a lot with a little when it 945 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 2: comes to that offensive line. Can you just look at 946 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 2: the quarterback and say, all right, he's a better quarterback, 947 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 2: they should win this game. 948 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 5: I mean, I think if they're both planned, if both 949 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 5: quarterbacks are playing their best football, probably Joe Burrow has 950 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 5: the advantage. But I can't say that you're just because 951 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 5: of Joe Burrow they're gonna win the football game, because 952 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 5: there's just too many players, you know, like you have 953 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 5: a Quandre Digg, you have a you know, you know 954 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 5: Bobby Wagner, you have Witherspoon, you have Tariq Woollen, like 955 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 5: that's Jamal Adams. 956 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 3: That's a lot of dudes that can make plays. 957 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 5: And then on on our offense, at every skill position 958 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,760 Speaker 5: you can there's guys that can take it to the house. 959 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 5: You're the tight end, you know, can take it to 960 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 5: the house. The running bats can take you to the house. 961 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 5: All the receivers. So it's more than just a quarterback. 962 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 5: It's more than just the quarterback. 963 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 2: It's the old line, it's the d line, and then's 964 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 2: these dudes making plays. Right now we are joined by 965 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 2: Devin witherspool Man A. 966 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 4: The folks. The folks waited a long time to see 967 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 4: what you can do. 968 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 2: Man training Cab, I think you had like a hamstring 969 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 2: thing going on. You took your time, You're waiting for 970 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 2: your opportunity, and you hit the ground running. 971 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 5: Man. 972 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: I mean, when you are as high as a drive 973 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 2: pick as you are, you already got the swag in 974 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 2: the confidence. 975 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 3: Man. 976 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 2: When you stepped on the field for the first time 977 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 2: during the regular season game, what that feel like? 978 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 9: I just felt like I need to get back to 979 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 9: the basis, basically just going back to play football, the 980 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 9: game just on the biggest stage. 981 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 4: So I was just ready to get out there and compete. 982 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, just talked about your swag and like you're such 983 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 5: a low key dude. 984 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 3: That seems like. 985 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 5: Off the field, but but then on the field, like 986 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 5: your personality You're playing personality is huge, Like where does 987 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 5: that come from? 988 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 9: That's just me being me out there on the field. 989 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 9: I just love to compete and go out there and play. 990 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 9: So I show a lot of passions and most of 991 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 9: the game because I love what I do. 992 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 4: So that's just the reason why I put that do 993 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 4: on the field. 994 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 3: I love it, man, keep doing it. 995 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 2: So when they drafted you, did you think, all right, 996 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a corner. 997 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be that nickel spot? 998 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 2: Was there was there a communication when it came to 999 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 2: what your role was going to be or did it 1000 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 2: just kind of happen organically as the training camp went along. 1001 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 9: We ain't really have a set spot where I was 1002 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 9: gonna be. That kind of happened more is just the 1003 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 9: game plan and got a feel for how I like 1004 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,479 Speaker 9: to play and seeing it on tape, so they're just like, Okay, 1005 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 9: we're just gonna move you around to see how you 1006 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 9: adjusted with it. And I was able to pick up 1007 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 9: on it pretty good. So we was like, okay, we 1008 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 9: just gonna move you around. I'm all right. 1009 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 3: I feel so you grew up in Florida, Let's go 1010 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 3: to Florida. You went from that, from that heat to 1011 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 3: that cold and Illinois? What was that like? 1012 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 4: What me? 1013 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 7: Nah? 1014 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 9: It was just extremely cold. I ain't used to that, 1015 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 9: and it's just windy, especially Illinois. So it was just bad. 1016 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 9: But you get used to it though. When you're out 1017 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 9: there on the field, you just got to suck up 1018 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 9: and play. But off the field, it ain't nothing to 1019 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 9: be messed around with. I feel like cold is vicious. 1020 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 9: Man's vicious man. I'm from southern California. 1021 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 2: Then I went to school in Eastern Washing It's the 1022 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 2: first time I saw negative. 1023 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 4: But I look into them, what's going on here? We 1024 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 4: can't sling practice? 1025 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 3: What we do with it? 1026 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 4: Was like, no, lay some up, let's go. 1027 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 2: It's the usual. It's a regular Tuesday for you. And 1028 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 2: when I was in practice, I was layered up. I 1029 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 2: had like too many layers on when I was practicing. 1030 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:42,240 Speaker 9: The same for you thermals leave pants, tight, loan socks, 1031 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 9: maasline everything, everything that's. 1032 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 3: Old school all that. 1033 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, when you when you get the phone call 1034 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 5: from the Seahawks, like a lot of people in the draft, 1035 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 5: was you thinking this were going to go different? And 1036 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 5: then they call you? Like were you always in contact 1037 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 5: with them? Like did when you talk to them doing 1038 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 5: like the pre draft stuff, Like what were those conversations? 1039 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 5: Like did they give you an indication that you might 1040 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 5: be our guy? 1041 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 4: Nah? 1042 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 9: Originally that I was just I ended up taking a 1043 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 9: visit here during my visiting my teams and stuff like that, 1044 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 9: and I really wasn't supposed to come here, and then 1045 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 9: they booked me to come here, So I'm like, okay, 1046 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 9: we fitted in my schedule and I came here and 1047 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 9: then I had no idea I was gonna be here 1048 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,479 Speaker 9: after the draft, so I'm like, okay, they just brut 1049 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 9: me in whatever whatever. So originally everybody thought I was 1050 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 9: going to Detroit, so I was like, okay, I'm not 1051 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 9: probably gonna fall past six. And then I remember Draft 1052 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 9: night like it was just say. I was sitting down, 1053 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 9: I was on my phone. I was seeing where everybody say, 1054 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 9: where everybody's going go and stuff, and then all the 1055 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 9: camera people are around Jayling Carter because I think he 1056 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 9: was on the phone. And then I was just telling them. 1057 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 9: I'm like, okay, okay, probably I'll probably be going next 1058 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 9: So but then I had got a call and then 1059 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 9: it was from written Why So I'm. 1060 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 4: Like, I'm I told my agent. I'm like, hey, they 1061 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 4: called me. 1062 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 9: I was supposed to anwer the phone, so I answered 1063 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 9: the phone and then they told me they was selected me. 1064 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 9: And then by the time I looked up, all the 1065 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:10,959 Speaker 9: camera people was around. 1066 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I put my head but that 1067 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 4: was do though. That's awesome, man, that's awesome feeling. What 1068 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 4: what positions did you play growing up? Because I mean, you. 1069 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 2: Know, about the same size, average type dude, so I 1070 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 2: would assume running back, dB, receiver, maybe even some quarterback. 1071 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 4: Like what positions did you play? All the ones that 1072 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 4: you named in safety and stuff as well? Yeah? So yeah, which. 1073 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 2: Ones did you did you want to play? Did you 1074 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 2: kind of fall into your role now or did you 1075 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 2: think I'm gonna be something else now? 1076 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 9: I kind of always knew I was gonna play, like 1077 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 9: on the defensive side because they took one time me 1078 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 9: see somebody get hit on the slant round. 1079 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, that ain't gonna be me. 1080 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, So since then I made the transition to defense 1081 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 9: and I just tole it. 1082 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 5: So you've been you've been with the team or you know, 1083 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,399 Speaker 5: this is what four games into to the season, had 1084 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 5: a big, huge Monday night. Uh, what are one or 1085 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 5: two things that you've learned that you've learned since you've 1086 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 5: since since you've been in lead. 1087 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 9: I just feel like it's hard to win in this league. 1088 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 9: Like every team is a tough team to play against. 1089 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 9: They are everybody gonna have good scheme plays to scheme 1090 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 9: you up and beat you. So it's like in the lead, 1091 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 9: there's no fall offs with teams. You can see around 1092 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 9: the league each week, Like you used to be surprised 1093 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 9: that one team beat another, but that just just how 1094 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,839 Speaker 9: the league go. So I'm just me, it's just hard 1095 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 9: to win this league and you just got to go 1096 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 9: out there and continue to play. 1097 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 2: NFC Defensive Player of the Week two sacks, pick to 1098 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 2: the Hoodie nine them players. 1099 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 4: He did. 1100 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 2: So we do pre halftime in postgame show, we make 1101 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 2: our predictions, and Big Ray predicted that you're gonna take 1102 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 2: one to the house. So so you've had like so 1103 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 2: much success early. Man, you know you're still a rookie, 1104 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 2: but when you prepare throughout the week, what what keeps 1105 00:48:58,840 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 2: you going? 1106 00:48:59,160 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 4: What keeps you motivate? 1107 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 9: My teammates the way we just prepare and we talk 1108 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 9: to each other them about every week and how we're 1109 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 9: gonna play different concept, different routes that teams like the run, 1110 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 9: and then when we sect ourselves see how teams going 1111 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 9: to attack us to be different coverages. We just go 1112 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 9: out there and it's like every week, we gotta be 1113 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 9: on our own point. We gotta be at a one 1114 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 9: every week because team's gunning first. So that's that's really 1115 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 9: keep me level headed throughout the week. And I just 1116 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 9: go out there and continue to prepare and just go 1117 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 9: out there and play football. 1118 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 5: Well, it's not often that rookies get like big, huge compliments. 1119 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 5: It used to be you should be seen and not 1120 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 5: heard y right, But early in training camp, Uh, they 1121 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 5: were talking to Quandre Diggs and he said that the 1122 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 5: energy and the swagger and the confidence and like bordering 1123 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 5: on KACKI, I don't care what you call it, like 1124 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,800 Speaker 5: that some of the older players needed to see that 1125 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,320 Speaker 5: they needed to be reminded of that and that you 1126 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 5: you kind of brought that to them. What do you 1127 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 5: think about that type of a compliment? 1128 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 7: Uh? 1129 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 9: Now, as though though that he said that me, I 1130 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 9: just really I just take it the room with it. 1131 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 4: So I was like, said that. 1132 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 2: Then. 1133 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,720 Speaker 4: That's like my old g in room. 1134 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 9: But yeah, I just I feel like I kind of 1135 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,240 Speaker 9: remind the old guys of the younger selves and remind 1136 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 9: them that the game is always gonna be fun. So 1137 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 9: just go out there and see you to have fun, 1138 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 9: God damn, and just play your balls off and just 1139 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 9: go have fun. 1140 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 3: Man. 1141 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 2: I remember when I was playing one drafted as high 1142 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 2: as you, I won't drafted all. I snugged through the 1143 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 2: back door and I remember walking into the receiver room 1144 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 2: and seeing all these names and these guys, be like, man, 1145 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 2: I'm here right now. You know, I would imagine that 1146 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 2: you had a moment where you felt like you a rise. 1147 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 4: Man, do you remember that moment and what was that? Like? 1148 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 9: Uh, it's kind of blurred blur now. But when I 1149 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 9: first walked into the room, I'm like, I really played 1150 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 9: for this NFL team. 1151 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 4: So I was like, I played for the Seahawks. 1152 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 9: And then all the rookies he kept saying that to 1153 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 9: each other, be like, this is our job, this is 1154 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 9: our new lifestyle. 1155 00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,439 Speaker 4: So we just really couldn't get over it for real. 1156 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 9: And then after we had my game and then the 1157 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 9: preseason happened and I didn't get a since played, I'm like, 1158 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 9: so I'm like, I want to do play with all 1159 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,399 Speaker 9: the rookies. I'm like, I look like y'all having fun 1160 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,319 Speaker 9: out and I want to go out there and have 1161 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 9: fun too. And then before you know it, the season 1162 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 9: was here, and then it got real. So it's like 1163 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 9: now it's a fifty mini roster, a practice squad, and 1164 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 9: you just see a lot of people faces that you've 1165 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,760 Speaker 9: seen in OTA's and rookie minicamp that's not there anymore. 1166 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 9: So it's like, Okay, this is a real business, a 1167 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 9: real job. So every day you go out there and 1168 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 9: got to prove it's an interview, so you just got 1169 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 9: to go out there and swaying while you're worthy of 1170 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 9: being here. 1171 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 5: So I think I've read somewhere and you can correct 1172 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 5: me if I'm wrong that you were kind of like 1173 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 5: a late starter to football and at your mom convince 1174 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 5: you to play. 1175 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, so I played part warning football and then when 1176 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 9: I got to high school, I stopped and then I 1177 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 9: ain't play again until my junior year because I was 1178 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 9: playing basketball. 1179 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 3: So you got a game like that. 1180 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I was a hoopo though. It gets like 1181 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:54,359 Speaker 4: that on the court though. 1182 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 3: But your mom, what was that conversation? 1183 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 8: Like? 1184 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 3: With your mom? 1185 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 9: She just she kept big me to play football just 1186 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 9: one more time. I'm like, man, I don't want to 1187 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 9: play football in no more. She was like, just please 1188 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 9: play one more year for me. I'm like, okay, okay, 1189 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,959 Speaker 9: I'm just tired of hearing this. It's been two years 1190 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 9: and she steady evincing, and I'm like, okay, I'm just 1191 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 9: gett one year out the way. And then after my 1192 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 9: first year, I had got my scholarship off of Detroit 1193 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 9: University and I never loved it. 1194 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 4: I just kept running with it. 1195 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 2: So what you get, mom, as soon as you got 1196 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:20,760 Speaker 2: that good little signing bonus. 1197 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 4: Come on, now we can't speak all that. Take care the. 1198 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 3: Main thing, the main thing. 1199 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,879 Speaker 4: Hey, we're happy you're here, man. You keep doing your thing. 1200 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure watching you play, and I'm excited 1201 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 2: to see how you grow from here. Man, give it 1202 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,319 Speaker 2: one more time for Devin with the spoon. All right, 1203 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 2: we'll we come back, man, We'll go inside the film 1204 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 2: when we talk about Mario Edwards, Sack dk metcalf touchdown 1205 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,720 Speaker 2: and also my man right here, ninety seven yard touchdown 1206 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 2: to the house that is next right here on Hawk's Lit. 1207 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: Hawkss Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue 1208 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court on Seattle Sports. 1209 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Hawk's Live. The Faith for are still here. 1210 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon was here then about fifteen percent of y'all left, 1211 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 2: and it's okay. We're still here, man. I'm Michael Bamas 1212 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 2: with Ray Roberts. It's time now to go inside the 1213 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 2: film room. The first clip we're breaking down Margot Edwards 1214 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 2: Sex Daniel Jones for a ten year loss and I 1215 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 2: fumble recovered by the guy with the beyond knee, Jordan Brooks. 1216 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 3: First time they did give it to him. As we said, 1217 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:34,439 Speaker 3: first and ten at. 1218 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 8: For twenty five play fake, Jones stepped away from a 1219 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 8: sack being chasing kickback up down fumble Seahawk ten minutes, 1220 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,439 Speaker 8: Brooks spins out of a tackle, fights his way down 1221 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 8: the sideline knock down bounce. 1222 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 3: At the seven yard line. 1223 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 4: The Seahawks had two guys. 1224 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 8: But got a shot at the big quarterback of the Giants. 1225 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 8: The first one he was able to avoid. 1226 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 4: The second one he could not. He would sacked. 1227 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 8: Force the fumble Brooks picture and takes it down inside 1228 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 8: the ten. 1229 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 4: What'd you see there, big Ray? 1230 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 5: Well, the first thing I saw was new Wolson, who 1231 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,800 Speaker 5: came off of our defensive left side and didn't bite 1232 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 5: on the run fake because if he had, if he 1233 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 5: had gone down on the run fake, the quarterback could 1234 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,320 Speaker 5: have gotten out to the edge and had more space. 1235 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 3: But he stayed up the field. 1236 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 5: Actually missed the sack, so he could have finished with 1237 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 5: three sacks in that game, but it slowed the quarterback 1238 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 5: down enough for man. I forgot this name, Mario, Mario 1239 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,319 Speaker 5: Jones to come around and get the sack. 1240 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what I see. There are two man. 1241 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 2: You got that Jet sweep that is trying to lure 1242 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 2: Edwards out right, and then you have the play fake 1243 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 2: to be like, look, in case you didn't take the 1244 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 2: Jets sweep, you're gonna take this playfake. 1245 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 4: And get your shoulders downhill. 1246 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 2: And that's what qbs are looking for, what play callers 1247 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,280 Speaker 2: are looking for. It like, look, we want to influence 1248 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 2: this guy, whether we widen him out or narrow him down, 1249 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 2: getting his shoulders down the line of scrimmage. And it 1250 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 2: just doesn't happen. And then I'm hey, come on, Jordan Brooks. Guys, 1251 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 2: Jordan Brooks. I did not expect to see him until 1252 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:10,360 Speaker 2: about November, maybe around my birthday, baby girl's birthday, December thirteenth, 1253 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,719 Speaker 2: you know, but he's out there making plays. That was 1254 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 2: a big one for the Seattle Seax. Okay, this next 1255 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 2: play we got Geno Smith. He finds dk Metcalf for 1256 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,240 Speaker 2: a six yard touchdown. 1257 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 10: Gino out of his shotgun as Walker beside him just 1258 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 10: to his left, awaiting the snap. Gino takes it, steps 1259 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,479 Speaker 10: up in the pocket, scrambles away to his right side, 1260 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 10: looking to the end zone. 1261 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 4: Fires are tart in the. 1262 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 3: Back of the en zone. 1263 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 8: DK does he haven't feed in it as touch on sheehawks. 1264 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 4: DK Metcalf with the. 1265 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 3: Rupe and dope in the back of the end. 1266 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 8: Zone, hands down by his side. Gino fires off bullet 1267 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:55,359 Speaker 8: and Metcalf reacts makes the catch feed in six point seahawks. 1268 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 2: I'd been rated Gino making plays. Tell me what you're 1269 00:55:59,000 --> 00:55:59,479 Speaker 2: looking at. 1270 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 5: Well at the offensive line, and on this play, the 1271 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,319 Speaker 5: two tackles kind of got They stayed between their guy 1272 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 5: and the quarterback for the most part, but they got 1273 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 5: pushed back into Geno's lap. And so the thing that's 1274 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 5: to me that has been impressive about Geno is his mobility. 1275 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,760 Speaker 5: I didn't think that he was as elusive as he is. Sometimes, 1276 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 5: not so much when he tries to do to like 1277 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 5: the the Michael Vick like run back fifty yards to 1278 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 5: gain another two yards. 1279 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 4: You're talking about, yeah, yeah. 1280 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 3: But but when he when he. 1281 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 5: Kind of stays within what he's capable of doing, he's 1282 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 5: very mobile in the pocket and he's able to get 1283 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 5: outside and then this throw the d K and DK 1284 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 5: you know, doing not having his hands up until the 1285 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 5: last minute, like, I don't. I don't know if I 1286 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 5: could have ever done that. That's what that has to 1287 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 5: be a wide receiver thing. It definitely is. Is it 1288 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,839 Speaker 5: a is it a name for someone was calling it 1289 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:50,720 Speaker 5: the deek or something? 1290 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 2: It's dec is more hockey hitt him with the de right, Yeah, 1291 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 2: mighty Dues, triple dy eighties babies here, anybody triple D 1292 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 2: triple D D two. 1293 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,359 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Mighty Dugs. 1294 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,360 Speaker 2: But no, what DK did was because there are keys 1295 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 2: that lets a DV. No, the football is on the way, 1296 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 2: our eyes get big and those hands start to show. 1297 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 2: So DK has the shield on so you can't see 1298 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 2: his eyes. So he was just late with his hands 1299 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 2: and boom. But this is one of the reasons why 1300 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 2: I feel like Geno Smith is underrated because he's going 1301 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 2: east to west. 1302 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 4: And I coached high school football. 1303 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 2: You coach high school football, and when I talk to 1304 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 2: my quarterbacks whenever they are rolling out, I tell them, 1305 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 2: you got to push downhill before you throw the football 1306 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 2: to get more power on him. But then you deal 1307 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 2: with a grown man. He goes, no, I'm gonna go 1308 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 2: east west. I'm gonna fire that thing out there and 1309 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 2: DK is going to get it done. I think that's 1310 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 2: what we saw right there, and d DK did a 1311 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 2: great job of selling the whole situation. 1312 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 3: Oop. 1313 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 2: Sorry, we had the the DV with his back to 1314 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 2: the play the whole time, so he had no idea. 1315 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 2: So good job on DK, Good job on Geno. 1316 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 5: Also say two that from when DK came into the 1317 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 5: league and to be able to have the confidence to 1318 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 5: make that catch because he was a body, big time 1319 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 5: body catcher when he first came in, and so that 1320 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 5: just kind of speaks to also the work he's put 1321 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 5: in to be a to be a better receiver and 1322 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 5: a hands catcher. 1323 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more, all right, next play, Devin Witherspoon spicks 1324 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 2: excuse me, picks off Daniel Jones and runs it back 1325 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 2: ninety seven yards for a touchdown. 1326 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 4: We just spoke to this band. 1327 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 10: So Jones from the shotgun read him beside him in 1328 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 10: the backfield, single wide out left with a slot to 1329 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 10: the right side. See how it looks like they want. 1330 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 3: To rush four? Yeah, they do. Jones is gonna throw throws. 1331 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 8: Near side, foul pick up Withers food cuts your time 1332 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 8: down the sidelines. Joe chasing get me cautchback inside picks 1333 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 8: up blockers, show big Chase Witherspood four time, twenty fifty 1334 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 8: tenth time he is in Polly Catfish. Witherspood went up 1335 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 8: with the interception for a touchdown. 1336 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 5: Well you see, well, I mean, I just I don't 1337 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 5: know much about the route concepts, but it looks like 1338 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 5: they had two kind of return routes and he sat 1339 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 5: right in the middle of both of them, and then 1340 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 5: the quarterback throwing the ball. The thing that I think 1341 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 5: is kind of funny about this whole thing is when 1342 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 5: he got to like the thirty five yard line and 1343 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 5: was trying to change to corrections and he had the 1344 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 5: little windmill arm thing that that looks like a like 1345 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 5: that's how I would have to change directions I need. 1346 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 5: I need all the help I need to get my 1347 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 5: whole body going one direction. 1348 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,959 Speaker 3: And then the other thing was just. 1349 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 5: How easy uh treak Wooland was running really fast on 1350 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 5: this on this interception return, he just kind of jogged 1351 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 5: down the field and was clocked as the fastest UH 1352 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 5: run in the in the NFL so far this season, 1353 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 5: and he was just chilling. 1354 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 2: So what I'm looking at, I see Tarik Wollin is 1355 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 2: responsible for the flat. You got your number two receiver, 1356 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 2: which is the guy that is second closest to the sideline. 1357 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 2: He runs a slide the route as to what I 1358 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 2: call it. So you're running out and you slide back in. 1359 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Chariq Willen is responsible for the flap. So if that 1360 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 2: receiver slides back in, he has a linebacker that's responsible 1361 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 2: for the hook to crow. 1362 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,919 Speaker 4: He goes, look, I'm gonna pass you off to that guy. 1363 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 2: So he passes him off to the guy in him 1364 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 2: being in the right place where he's supposed to be 1365 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 2: at the right time. He gets rewarded by the forty 1366 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 2: million dollar quarterback, Daniel Jones, which I think, you know what, 1367 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 2: I never want to hate on a man for making 1368 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 2: this money. 1369 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 4: Damn Jones. You make your money, You finesse the system, 1370 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 4: all right, But. 1371 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 2: This right here is why I never thought he was 1372 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 2: worth it. So Daniel Jones throws this a horrible ball, 1373 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 2: and Devin Witherspoon is where he's supposed to be, and 1374 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 2: now it's time to give money. You got your quarterback 1375 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 2: chasing you. 1376 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 4: You better not. 1377 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 2: As a skill guy, big Ray, you can't get caught 1378 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:09,439 Speaker 2: by quarterbacks or kickers. You get caught by quarterbacks or kickers. 1379 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 2: You're going back to that locker room and they are giving. 1380 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 4: You that word h worthy. 1381 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 2: He giving you heck when you getting into the room. 1382 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 2: So no, that's Devin witherspool Man. When you just do 1383 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 2: your job, sometimes you get rewarded. And that's exactly what happened. 1384 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, And like we said earlier, for this guy man 1385 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 5: like two sacks to pick six on Monday night in 1386 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,080 Speaker 5: New York, it's amazing that he picked that. All that 1387 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 5: stuff went down for him in that moment on that 1388 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 5: stage and that. 1389 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 2: Time, big time, big moment for a big time player. 1390 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 2: All Right, that's it for the film room. When we 1391 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 2: come back, well, we'll talk that talk. That's when me 1392 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,360 Speaker 2: and Big Ray throw some topics. He tells me I'm wrong. 1393 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 2: I tell him he's wrong, and we might be right. 1394 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 2: But that's just what we do. That's coming up next 1395 01:01:55,360 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 2: right here on Hawk's Live. It's time to talk that 1396 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,919 Speaker 2: talk with Michael Bumpis and Paul Moyer on Hawks Live. 1397 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Hawks Live. We are here. 1398 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 2: I'm Michael Mamas with Ray Robbers, Brendan Rodgers over there, 1399 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 2: Brother Chauncey Sanders, Nacy Schoby, those are the guys who 1400 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 2: make all this happen. And the people right here, people 1401 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 2: hanging out with it is this time for talk that talk. 1402 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 4: This is what happens and talk that talk. 1403 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 2: So I throw a topic out there, and typically this 1404 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 2: is Paul Morris sitting here. I tell him why he 1405 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 2: is wrong, and I just cannot mess with him anymore. 1406 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 3: Got you all right? 1407 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 4: But it's big Ray. I'll just tell you that you're wrong, 1408 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 4: but I can still rock with you. 1409 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 3: Rock like that though, you. 1410 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 4: Know, it's it's what we do, all right. So my 1411 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 4: little bro first one, here we go. 1412 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 2: Devin with the school has a legit shot at winning 1413 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 2: defensive Rookie. 1414 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,440 Speaker 4: Of the Year. Yes, no, how do you feel about that? 1415 01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 5: You know, from the rookies that I've seen on defense, like, 1416 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 5: he has a chance to be the most impactful. 1417 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 3: I mean, it's gonna be. 1418 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 5: Hard to come back, you know, to duplicate the game 1419 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 5: that he just had, you know, you know, two sacks 1420 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 5: and a pick six ninety something yards whatever. But he 1421 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 5: is one of those dudes that the camera likes. You're 1422 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,560 Speaker 5: gonna they're gonna see him a lot. He's very he's 1423 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 5: very animated, and so you're gonna see his highlights a lot, 1424 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 5: and I think that's gonna carry it for him because 1425 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 5: he's gonna make a lot of players. 1426 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 3: So I'm going yet. 1427 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 2: Man, that is the best description I've heard. He's the 1428 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 2: guy that the camera likes. If the camera likes you, 1429 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 2: that means you're making put on something. We're zooming in. 1430 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 2: If you guys don't know right when you produce the show, 1431 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 2: this producer in your ear, he goes twenty one, twenty one. 1432 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 2: It's the number twenty one, and he's telling the camera 1433 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 2: where to go. 1434 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,120 Speaker 4: Devin Witherspoon is the type. 1435 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 2: Of guy to where the producers in the guy's ear 1436 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 2: and saying, look, get to twenty one. 1437 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 4: I agree with you, man, I think he does. 1438 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 2: And you know what's crazy is if the guy that 1439 01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 2: most people wanted the Seahawks to pick up has a 1440 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:04,439 Speaker 2: chain as well as that's winning defensive Rookie of the year. 1441 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,800 Speaker 2: You're looking at Jalen Carter. I believe he has two 1442 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 2: and a half or three and a half sacks on 1443 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:12,000 Speaker 2: the year as an interior lineman. That looks good, But 1444 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 2: I think that teams are going to attack the Seahawks 1445 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 2: on the perimeter because they've been so good inside the box, 1446 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 2: stopping the run. That Devin Witherspoon is gonna have more 1447 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 2: opportunities to make plays. All right, I think we agree 1448 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 2: right there, Big Ray feel you next one? I want 1449 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 2: to read it where we at Jackson Smith. 1450 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:35,320 Speaker 5: Jackson Smith and Jagba and jig Ma buf Ma Jigbull. 1451 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 5: We'll have his first breakout game on Sunday. 1452 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:44,560 Speaker 2: His first breakout game. Didn't already have it? Oh no, no, no, 1453 01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 2: I'm thinking with this Spoon. See, I'm thinking of Rikies. 1454 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 2: I'm all Jack Deville, I'm all Jack delle Man, my 1455 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 2: man Jay is sim We've been waiting on this, right 1456 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 2: the twin the pick in the league. You got Geno Smith, 1457 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,280 Speaker 2: this guy who was the only NFC quarterback to throw 1458 01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,840 Speaker 2: for over thirty touchdowns four thousand yards. I'm gonna go 1459 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 2: out on the limb and say it's about to go down. 1460 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 2: It's about to go down because teams are gonna look 1461 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 2: at Ken Walker, even Zach Charbonay before Json, Tyler Lockett, 1462 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 2: DK Metcalf and the tight ends are gonna be like hein, 1463 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,000 Speaker 2: don't worry about that number. 1464 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 4: Eleven, Hey doing well. 1465 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 5: Here here's the thing to what would constitute a breakout game, Like, 1466 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 5: what would the stats be for me? 1467 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 4: If he has two yards in a touchdown, that's a breakoup. 1468 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 3: Two yards just getting his zone, all right? 1469 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 2: So now if he doesn't get in his zone, I'm 1470 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 2: gonna take six receptions for eighty two one hundred yards. 1471 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 2: Because he's a slow receiver, he's a third option. Essentially, 1472 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 2: he's really the fourth option. 1473 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 3: Touchdown. I'm not calling that a breakout. 1474 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,120 Speaker 5: But if he has the four or five catches for 1475 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 5: eighty yards and even though touchdown, I think I would 1476 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 5: call that a breakout. 1477 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,440 Speaker 4: What about what about forty yards in a touchdown? 1478 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 5: I could see that, I mean, because he's not gonna 1479 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 5: probably get a ton of targets. 1480 01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so to get forty yards. 1481 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 5: He'll have to be making the most of what he gets. 1482 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,640 Speaker 5: So I can you'll get to see the fool him 1483 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 5: if he does that. Right, But I'm not sure it's 1484 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 5: gonna happen. No, No, I don't. 1485 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 3: I don't think it's I don't think the time is 1486 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 3: there yet. I don't. I don't think it's right there yet. 1487 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 4: I respect it, Yah, I ain't add at that at all. 1488 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 2: Okay, next week, Jamal Adams will look like his twenty 1489 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 2: twenty form against the Cincinnati Bengals that. 1490 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:26,000 Speaker 4: You think, big Y. 1491 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,840 Speaker 5: The thing I like about the way he came back, 1492 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 5: even in the nine plays is that he played without 1493 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 5: hesitation rat So I think that will give him a 1494 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,680 Speaker 5: chance to play like his twenty twenty form because other 1495 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 5: because the injury he had when he hear you hear 1496 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,480 Speaker 5: him talk about it, his kneecap was he was holding 1497 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 5: his kneecap. 1498 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,760 Speaker 3: On the side as he was running off the field. 1499 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,200 Speaker 4: You familiar with that, aren't. 1500 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 3: You a little bit? 1501 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:52,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1502 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:52,640 Speaker 3: I did. 1503 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 5: My fetell attendant in my and my kneecap was up 1504 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 5: in my thought, goodness, cres but uh but and I 1505 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,479 Speaker 5: had to I had to coming and carry me off. 1506 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:06,919 Speaker 4: He ran off, Big Ray. Yeah, they call you Big 1507 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 4: Ray for a reason. I couldn't walk you off. 1508 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:10,240 Speaker 3: I couldn't walk it all. 1509 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,200 Speaker 4: How many how many men did it take? 1510 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 5: Well, one dude came out and then he was like, 1511 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 5: uh you okay. I'm like no, He's like, well, I'll 1512 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 5: be right back, and we he got reinforcements. But the 1513 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,240 Speaker 5: fact that he came back off the injury and was 1514 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 5: just playing at the pace of speed and recklessness that 1515 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,479 Speaker 5: he plays with, right, I think, you know, if he's 1516 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 5: the cob wells were cleared out of his head and 1517 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:35,720 Speaker 5: they put him in the right position. I think he's 1518 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 5: going to make a lot of plays on Sunday, so 1519 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 5: I could see that happening. Him looking like twenty twenty Jamal. 1520 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 4: I think we saw for nine plays. Yeah, you know, 1521 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 4: he almost had a sack. He had two tackles. 1522 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,160 Speaker 2: He looked explosive, and I think that's all I was 1523 01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 2: looking for, the one thing I. 1524 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 4: Want to see. 1525 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,880 Speaker 2: He didn't look really flexible, big raight like. I'm looking 1526 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 2: at his pad level and the hinge and the hips, 1527 01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 2: and I look at. 1528 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,000 Speaker 4: Him and go him. He's still thinking about it. 1529 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,520 Speaker 2: So I think now after he has a game under 1530 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 2: his belt, he's put something on film that he can 1531 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,320 Speaker 2: look at and see like, Okay. 1532 01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:08,960 Speaker 4: I'm good to go. I think he's gonna come out 1533 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 4: and do his thing. I got you, all right, So 1534 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,640 Speaker 4: what you got man? We gotta think the next. 1535 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,840 Speaker 5: One is what team scares you more? The San Francisco 1536 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:17,839 Speaker 5: forty nine ers. 1537 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:22,960 Speaker 2: Or the Philadelphia Eagerly Who y'all think we gotta be 1538 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 2: the Niners? 1539 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 4: We see him twice, We see him twice? Do we 1540 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:27,280 Speaker 4: see Philly this year. 1541 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 2: Do we see phil and the experts out there, I'm 1542 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,439 Speaker 2: supposed to be the experts. Yeah, we do see Philly, 1543 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 2: all right, But we see the Niners twice. 1544 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:35,360 Speaker 7: Man. 1545 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,759 Speaker 2: I'm looking at brock party He's legit. 1546 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:39,679 Speaker 4: I'm done questioning brock Purty. 1547 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:45,519 Speaker 2: As long as he has Debo ayuk Kittle, McCaffrey and 1548 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,000 Speaker 2: the rest of the gang surrounding him, I think he's 1549 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 2: gonna be good to go. I'm looking at the forty 1550 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,760 Speaker 2: nine ers and say, if you can take one, that's 1551 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 2: a win. 1552 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,559 Speaker 5: This is true, and we find the split with them. 1553 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,599 Speaker 5: The thing I would say, though, is that Philadelphia has 1554 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 5: been through it, have a lot of guys you know 1555 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 5: that's still on the team and went to the Super 1556 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 5: Bowl and all that kind of stuff, and they've they've 1557 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 5: had to grind. They've had to grind through some wins. 1558 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 5: And so if it was if it was a game 1559 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 5: where the forty nine ers have to play from behind, 1560 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,559 Speaker 5: I would fear If if both teams are playing from behind, 1561 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,680 Speaker 5: I would fear Philadelphia more because they find their way 1562 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,840 Speaker 5: to win, and they have that kind of a grint 1563 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,679 Speaker 5: toughness to win. If it's a team that's played from 1564 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,720 Speaker 5: the front. I think the Niners are the team to 1565 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,679 Speaker 5: be afraid of the Philly as that a team slide 1566 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,639 Speaker 5: back in. But I think that when they're up on top, 1567 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 5: when they're on top, the forty nine ers just close field. 1568 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 2: I like that because I'm not I don't know for sure, 1569 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 2: but go through my memory, I think that I haven't 1570 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 2: seen Brock Purdy lead a game winning drive yet to 1571 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 2: where you have to make the place you everyone knows 1572 01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 2: you're gonna throw the football. It's typically been all right, man, 1573 01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:57,479 Speaker 2: I got options bow. 1574 01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,800 Speaker 4: My defense holding me down. Just don't lose the Let's 1575 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 4: see him win a game. 1576 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I like form that fact. 1577 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:04,200 Speaker 4: I like that all right. 1578 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,600 Speaker 2: Last one, are we finally seeing that Tom Brady was 1579 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 2: more important to the Patriots dynasty than Bill Belichick? Oh? 1580 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,320 Speaker 5: Man, that is a tough one because it's like, how 1581 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,479 Speaker 5: do you separate one from the other, Because I mean, 1582 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,680 Speaker 5: they did draft him, Bill Belichick did see something in 1583 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,559 Speaker 5: him to make the decision to put him in the game. 1584 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,759 Speaker 5: And I had a buddy of mine that played left. 1585 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,560 Speaker 3: Guard for them. He was my left guard in Detroit. 1586 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 5: And they ended up going to the Patriots, and he 1587 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,640 Speaker 5: said it was the first day that tom Brady came 1588 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,599 Speaker 5: into the huddle and practiced. He said, hey, we're going 1589 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,680 Speaker 5: to the super Bowl, and everybody laughed at him, like 1590 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 5: not that they weren't believing that they can get the 1591 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,120 Speaker 5: super Bowl, it's just like, who is this dude telling 1592 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:47,639 Speaker 5: this We're going. 1593 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:48,800 Speaker 4: To go to the super Bowl? Huh? 1594 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,800 Speaker 5: But for whatever, it was something about the way he 1595 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,720 Speaker 5: did it. Everybody jumped on board with him, and he's 1596 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,680 Speaker 5: just and then he was that dude from that point on. 1597 01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:01,479 Speaker 5: So but you have to give whoever Bill Belichick, whoever 1598 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,679 Speaker 5: the quarterback coach was down in department whatever, they drafted 1599 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 5: him and then had the guts to give him a 1600 01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 5: chance to go out there and play. So I was 1601 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,680 Speaker 5: still kind of the players still have to play. So 1602 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,240 Speaker 5: I will still give a little bit more leaning to 1603 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:16,799 Speaker 5: to tom Brady over Belichick. 1604 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 3: But it's at discounting. 1605 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 4: It's all about the players. It's all about the players. 1606 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 2: You can have the perfect scheme offensively to a defense, 1607 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,479 Speaker 2: if you don't have the guys to execute it, you're done. 1608 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:31,840 Speaker 4: And same thing defensively. 1609 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 2: You could say, look, if we do this, we're gonna 1610 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,720 Speaker 2: lock down with this offense. Once to do if you 1611 01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 2: don't have that Jimmy's and Joe's to make it happen, 1612 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 2: then it's not gonna happen. But this is football, right, 1613 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 2: The history is always a great coach is connected to 1614 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,240 Speaker 2: a great quarterback. So I say all that to contradict 1615 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:54,960 Speaker 2: everything I just said to say, Hey, hand in hand, 1616 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 2: this is mesh. 1617 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 4: When I call my office, mesh, mesh. 1618 01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,240 Speaker 3: Con my fingers are two jacks. Have to do all that. 1619 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 5: But but no, you know, at the end of the day, 1620 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,760 Speaker 5: you like when you're a coach, high school coach and 1621 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,639 Speaker 5: you're having to deal with parents. You know, coaches coach, 1622 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:17,280 Speaker 5: players play parents, you know, parent and cheer. But in 1623 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:21,519 Speaker 5: this situation, the player had to go do that, had 1624 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,920 Speaker 5: to go do it, and he did it at such 1625 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,560 Speaker 5: a level that, yes, the coaching, in the environment and 1626 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 5: everything was set up for him to succeed. But then 1627 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,080 Speaker 5: he had to go succeed, and he did that, and 1628 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,520 Speaker 5: so I would lean more towards the player. 1629 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:34,679 Speaker 4: Than the coach. 1630 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,439 Speaker 2: Then he left and did it again. Yes, and that 1631 01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,559 Speaker 2: coach has not been able to do it again. Randy, 1632 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,880 Speaker 2: you need a quarterback to win. Mac Jones is not 1633 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 2: then Mic Jones is not that guy. 1634 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 4: All right, we got one more segment when we come back. 1635 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,559 Speaker 2: Thank you everybody for hanging out with us today here 1636 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 2: on Hawks Live. 1637 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,840 Speaker 4: Will give you our final thoughts. That's coming up next. 1638 01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:01,040 Speaker 1: Hawks Slide presented by That Dining District a Bellevue Collection 1639 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:05,760 Speaker 1: at Bellevue Square, Centric Cord Live on air on Seattle Sports. 1640 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,000 Speaker 2: Last segment of Hawks Live. It's been great, man, you 1641 01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:10,799 Speaker 2: guys are awesome. 1642 01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,719 Speaker 4: I really appreciate you guys coming out showing love doing 1643 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:15,479 Speaker 4: what you do. 1644 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:15,800 Speaker 7: Man. 1645 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,040 Speaker 2: Hey, you guys, make sure you get up to Bellevue 1646 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,200 Speaker 2: Collection Dining. Just so many great restaurantstitutes from today. We 1647 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 2: had our pre show meal at Hopaness side. 1648 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:25,680 Speaker 8: Man. 1649 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 2: I had the amazing headless Horsemen, sushi rolls. I love 1650 01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,360 Speaker 2: some sushi, Big Ray all right, holiday thing cocktails, Chicken 1651 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,599 Speaker 2: taraok and Strip Gyosa and so much more. We sat there. 1652 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,840 Speaker 2: You guys were there first. Then I rolled up and 1653 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:41,160 Speaker 2: you guys were You guys. 1654 01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,280 Speaker 4: Were digging in. I'm like, all right, I gotta catch up. Man. 1655 01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:49,679 Speaker 5: Well, they had these stuffed openios with some salmon and 1656 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 5: some other things, and it was really good. I didn't 1657 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,559 Speaker 5: know what it was going to be like. I haven't 1658 01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,960 Speaker 5: had that combination of things together before. But I had that, 1659 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:04,720 Speaker 5: and I had also the ginger chicken. Okay, it's really good. 1660 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:09,559 Speaker 5: So I also had some steak, some chicken. You know, 1661 01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,320 Speaker 5: say they're a little bit of everything, a. 1662 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 2: Little bit of got chick at steak, all that good stuff. 1663 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,160 Speaker 5: Nice sushi bar, you can sider that in great food. 1664 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,439 Speaker 5: Can't say I'm the biggest sushi fan, but it was delicious. 1665 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,719 Speaker 4: It was good. It was good, all right. Final segment, 1666 01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:24,799 Speaker 4: final thoughts. 1667 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,960 Speaker 2: I look at this football team in the Seattle Seahawks, 1668 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,640 Speaker 2: and I go, Okay, a couple of weeks ago, you 1669 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,679 Speaker 2: go to the East Coast. 1670 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:34,839 Speaker 4: I'm from Cali. 1671 01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 2: You're from the east kind of low key, yes, all right, 1672 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,400 Speaker 2: but you've been out here a long time. 1673 01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,240 Speaker 4: Yes, so you're pretty much West coast too. 1674 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,519 Speaker 2: So we go to the East Coast and we get 1675 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 2: it done against eighteen that we were still trying to 1676 01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 2: figure out at. 1677 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:47,840 Speaker 4: The time, like who are these guys? Right? 1678 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,640 Speaker 2: They play well, they don't play well, and we end 1679 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,840 Speaker 2: up getting eleven sacks and holding these guys to not 1680 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,880 Speaker 2: a lot of yards offensively. The next week they go 1681 01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,240 Speaker 2: out and they lose again. Ignore what we just saw, 1682 01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,080 Speaker 2: or do we take that and build off of it. 1683 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,840 Speaker 5: No, I don't think you ignore it because it was 1684 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 5: a game that you should have won the way you 1685 01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,120 Speaker 5: want it. Now, if they had gone in and struggled 1686 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:14,960 Speaker 5: and we had to do the whole Pete Carroll, we 1687 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 5: got to win it in the fourth quarter thing and 1688 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 5: we squeaked out a win, then I would be a 1689 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 5: little bit concerned. But like I said, the start to 1690 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:29,360 Speaker 5: show it's important for that defense to see and understand 1691 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 5: what it feels like when it's working, when it works 1692 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,599 Speaker 5: exactly the way they have planned it. If you watch 1693 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,040 Speaker 5: some of the line stunts that they did along the 1694 01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,439 Speaker 5: defensive line, they were more precise, they were hitting the mark, 1695 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:42,880 Speaker 5: the targets better. If you look at the pass rush, 1696 01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 5: the pass rush was closing the edge a little bit better, 1697 01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,160 Speaker 5: the coverage was a little bit tighter. And so it's 1698 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,840 Speaker 5: important to understand what that feels like so that when 1699 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,840 Speaker 5: you're doing it, you kind of know like, Okay, this 1700 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 5: is what success feels like. And so and we are 1701 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,360 Speaker 5: a team that can go and play a team that 1702 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,280 Speaker 5: we should beat, and we can beat them from the 1703 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,679 Speaker 5: very we can just pound them right from the very beginning. 1704 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,040 Speaker 5: And so that was important. The key for the Seahawks. 1705 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,960 Speaker 5: Is to keep it all with in perspective. It was 1706 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 5: a team that was struggling. It was a team that 1707 01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 5: you should should beat down like the way you beat 1708 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:19,760 Speaker 5: it down, but don't allow it to elevate you to 1709 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,040 Speaker 5: the point where you start forgetting about the little details. 1710 01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 4: Man, that's such a tricky game. 1711 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,920 Speaker 2: You gotta play, yeah, because you have to appreciate what 1712 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,519 Speaker 2: you did against an NFL team. 1713 01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,960 Speaker 4: Yes, only thirty two of them things. Yep, only fifteen players. 1714 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,280 Speaker 2: They paid to play and all that, and they get paid, 1715 01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,639 Speaker 2: they draft high, they draft low, all that good stuff. 1716 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:37,960 Speaker 4: But you also got to keep it. 1717 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,520 Speaker 2: In reality and say, okay, let's prove it to ourselves 1718 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:42,400 Speaker 2: and let's. 1719 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 4: Do it again. You got to block for Barry centers. 1720 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,559 Speaker 2: Yes, was there a game where you guys ran for 1721 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,760 Speaker 2: a bunch of yards and then you had to get 1722 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,040 Speaker 2: back into the locker room and be like, okay, let's 1723 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:53,559 Speaker 2: do it again. 1724 01:16:54,160 --> 01:17:00,760 Speaker 5: Well, I mean blocking for Barry like every game part 1725 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,120 Speaker 5: of it. You're like, man, I'm glad he was on 1726 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,000 Speaker 5: our team so we could run for that many yards 1727 01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:08,400 Speaker 5: because I've missed a lot of blocks. But nah, there 1728 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,559 Speaker 5: were the run that he the year did he rush 1729 01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,519 Speaker 5: for two thousand and fifty three yards after the first 1730 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 5: two games we had only rushed. 1731 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,639 Speaker 3: He had only rushed for a combined fifty three yards. 1732 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 4: Wow. 1733 01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,799 Speaker 5: And so then we had this big the offense coordinator 1734 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,000 Speaker 5: called myself and Barry and Herman Moore and the quarterback. 1735 01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,840 Speaker 3: We all had this big pow wow and like what 1736 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,360 Speaker 3: should we do? And blah blah blah. 1737 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,120 Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, we got the best running back on 1738 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,320 Speaker 5: the universe. I don't get paid to call the plays, 1739 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,559 Speaker 5: but if you're asking me, I would run this dude 1740 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,720 Speaker 5: into a shoes fellow, right, Like, we'd have to have 1741 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,400 Speaker 5: truckloads of oxygen for him on the sideline. He's our 1742 01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,519 Speaker 5: best player. He had only had like eleven or twelve 1743 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,120 Speaker 5: carriages in two games. And so then yeah, Barry Sanders 1744 01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,080 Speaker 5: and so then for the next fourteen games, we rushed 1745 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,280 Speaker 5: for over one hundred yards every game, and he rushed 1746 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,120 Speaker 5: for exactly two thousand yards and fourteen games. So each 1747 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,599 Speaker 5: week we had to go, like, Okay, what did we 1748 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,800 Speaker 5: do well in that game that we could bring to 1749 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,439 Speaker 5: this game without like celebrating ourselves too much. 1750 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:05,840 Speaker 3: We still had to go out and block. 1751 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,400 Speaker 5: We still, you know, we played in NFC North, it's 1752 01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 5: a physical, physical division at the time, Green Bay in 1753 01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:16,040 Speaker 5: Chicago and US and so so, yeah, you have to 1754 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,000 Speaker 5: the thing I think Pete Carroll does a good job 1755 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:20,800 Speaker 5: at and then the leadership on this team does a 1756 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,799 Speaker 5: good job is they keep it in perspective. 1757 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,960 Speaker 3: They don't get too high or they don't get too low. 1758 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,320 Speaker 5: And I think if they keep it in perspective, this 1759 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,640 Speaker 5: is a win that especially the defense can build on. 1760 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:36,080 Speaker 2: Man, that's crazy that you guys are only feeding him 1761 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 2: six to five carries in the first series and then 1762 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,519 Speaker 2: you figured it out. So I look at this team 1763 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,440 Speaker 2: and I go, they might have figured something out. 1764 01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,200 Speaker 4: I think they figured out that, Look, we need to 1765 01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:47,080 Speaker 4: use the tight ends. 1766 01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 2: We need to sprinkle in Ken Walker and Zach Charbonay, 1767 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,519 Speaker 2: and we also need to get the receivers involved. One 1768 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 2: element that might be missing is JS And I'm not 1769 01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,680 Speaker 2: in a rush to get him going. I feel like 1770 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 2: he's like the best kept sey secret in the NFL 1771 01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:01,360 Speaker 2: right now. 1772 01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think he's gonna have He's gonna hit 1773 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,680 Speaker 5: his stride at some point in the season, and it's 1774 01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,160 Speaker 5: gonna be he's gonna make some. 1775 01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:09,360 Speaker 3: Very impactful plays. 1776 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 5: And I also think that even with the running game, 1777 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,519 Speaker 5: Pete Carrolls had a few weeks ago that the running 1778 01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,040 Speaker 5: game still wasn't where they wanted it to be, because 1779 01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:18,960 Speaker 5: if you take away a couple of the big runs, 1780 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,519 Speaker 5: both running backs are still averaging about a little under 1781 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,920 Speaker 5: four yards to carry, and so if they want to 1782 01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:25,640 Speaker 5: be consistent in the run game, they have do a 1783 01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,840 Speaker 5: little bit better job with the garden, the centers getting 1784 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,280 Speaker 5: up to the second level, up to the linebackers, because 1785 01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,320 Speaker 5: too many of those guys are running free, and so 1786 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,479 Speaker 5: I think if they clean that stuff up, then you 1787 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,519 Speaker 5: get more little play action. You can hit some of 1788 01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 5: those crossing routes and things to to gsn and give 1789 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:41,680 Speaker 5: him a chance to catch the ball and run. I 1790 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,080 Speaker 5: think you were the one who said he's more of 1791 01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 5: a he's more explosive when he catches the ball on 1792 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,920 Speaker 5: the run versus catching it at a standstill and trying 1793 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,599 Speaker 5: to wiggle and make someone miss. So I think they're 1794 01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,200 Speaker 5: gonna I think they'll find some opportunities for him that way. 1795 01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:53,799 Speaker 3: Man. 1796 01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,000 Speaker 4: That's it for us. Man, we appreciate you guys for 1797 01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,679 Speaker 4: hanging out. I appreciate my guy bick Ray. 1798 01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,880 Speaker 2: And also special things to Jeff Hobson, Jake Krohan, and 1799 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,960 Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon for joining the show. Our board operators Bravery 1800 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,400 Speaker 2: Robeck and Max Strobell, on sight engineer Brendan Rogers Love 1801 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,679 Speaker 2: Brendan Production and assistant as Chauncey Sanders. Our executive producer 1802 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,920 Speaker 2: is Nasa Troby. The Seahawks Free Game Show is live 1803 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,519 Speaker 2: this Sunday starting at seven am. Until next time. I'm 1804 01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,120 Speaker 2: your host, Michael Bamas with Big Ray Roberts. We'll be 1805 01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,040 Speaker 2: back next week right here on Hawks Live