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Speaker 1: two seventeen, Chiefs beat the Falcons. I hated Atlanta's decision

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Speaker 1: making and play calling late in the fourth quarter and

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Speaker 1: the last two drives. Absolutely hated it. Listen Kansas City's defense.

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Speaker 1: It's not the you know eighty five Bears or the

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Speaker 1: seventy five Steeters. But in terms of speed, it is

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Speaker 1: they are fast. They are young, they are athletic, and

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Speaker 1: they are fast. What are you doing trying to run

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Speaker 1: outside on fourth downs? And the first fourth down you

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Speaker 1: got deep in Chief's territory. Kick a field goal. There's

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Speaker 1: like six seven minutes left.

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Speaker 2: Kick a field goal.

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Speaker 1: You get a lot of time. You know, Kansas City's

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Speaker 1: offense is going to get a little bit conservative. You know,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 1: The second one? It's all these outside runs and quick

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Speaker 1: passes outside. The Chiefs are sure tackling, and they are

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Speaker 1: really fast, and when they get you within their grasp,

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Speaker 1: you're not getting out of it. So at point this

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Speaker 1: are hard to come by. Opportunities are hard to come by,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I hear all the belly aching about

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Speaker 1: the officials. The Chiefs have won nine in a row.

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Speaker 1: I lived in Connecticut for the ten year run eleven

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Speaker 1: ten eleven years there, and I always heard about the officiating. Listen,

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Speaker 1: there are a handful of teams in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota's got a great head coach and a great defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: And when the Patriots were at their strength. They had

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Speaker 1: Belichick's brain on defense, Josh McDaniel not a great head coach,

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Speaker 1: but a great coordinator. Most Super Bowl teams have that.

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Speaker 1: Steve Spagnols the best defensive coordinator. Andy's the smartest head

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Speaker 1: coach in the league. So They've got all their grounds covered.

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Speaker 1: They also draft and develop incredibly well. They're very young,

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Speaker 1: They're very fast, very athletic. On defense, Atlanta's trying to

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Speaker 1: six to two, two hundred and twenty pounds. Do a sneak,

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Speaker 1: do something. I just hated. Zach Robinson is their offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't like it at all. Too clever, it

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Speaker 1: If I have fourth and one, three and one, because

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Speaker 1: I thought that was that's the ballgame, situational football. Atlanta

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Speaker 1: wasn't very good at it. Kansas City's excellent at it,

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Speaker 1: and it used to be Kansas City would win these

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Speaker 1: some of these games, what are they won nine in

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's it's defense. Kansas City's figured it out. You want

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Speaker 1: the Rams right now, have the very young defense. What

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Speaker 1: You can your offensive players, you know, you can have

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Speaker 1: though it was a wild Sunday. John Middlcoff and I

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Speaker 1: have a lot to talk about. We don't break down

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Speaker 1: I liked Atlanta tonight. Is when you can get value

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Speaker 1: So Minnesota is the surprise team in the league. You

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Speaker 1: I have to start rams Niners. Los Angeles stole a win.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Matt Stafford. It really was a team win.

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Speaker 1: long shot. John, You watched this game. I saw Atlanta

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the culture of the Rams speaks for itself.

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Speaker 2: in terms of their good, good teams, I mean, they've

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Speaker 2: with out the two best wide receivers, how often when

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Speaker 2: And to lose that game. Party was excellent. He was incredible.

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Speaker 2: Special teams has killed Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan is an

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Speaker 2: excellent play caller. He for an offensive guy, values defense,

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Speaker 2: so that has never been a concern with their team.

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Speaker 2: He does not care about special teams at all. And listen,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna make and miss some field goals. But they

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Speaker 2: had a punt, yep fake punt that led to a

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Speaker 2: been a thorn in the forty nine ers side when

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Speaker 2: you look at Belichick for twenty years in their dynasty

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Speaker 2: not college football. Even if the Niners you play that

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Speaker 2: because it's the NFL, these scores are never gonna be

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Speaker 2: forty to fifteen, right, It's just like, oh it's seventeen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it saved the Rams season because if you go

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Speaker 1: And it's not only a win, it's a win against

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Speaker 1: They had multiple misplaced offensive linemen. I mean they didn't

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Speaker 1: But he made a huge, huge catch late. And you

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Speaker 2: But like you said with Stafford, he is such a

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Speaker 2: how big his arm was. But the game tying touchdown,

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Speaker 2: that many injuries and the Niners have owned this team. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean even Sanchez was saying it's sixty five to

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Speaker 2: But isn't that what makes Sunday so great? You're like oh,

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Speaker 2: You got the Cowboys within striking distance. The Rams are

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Speaker 2: that's the Niners are lucky they're playing the Patriots this

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Speaker 2: they look like a pretty well buttoned up team. I

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Speaker 2: You have so many injuries. It's almost like your season's

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Speaker 1: I know mcveay's had a lot of big wins. I'm

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Speaker 2: Goat a season.

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Speaker 1: It's literally a more gratifying win.

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Speaker 2: So one thing on one thing on the Niners really quick, Colin.

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Speaker 2: Deebo makes over twenty million dollars. Love the guy, but

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey a raise this offseason and he makes eighteen

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Speaker 2: nineteen million dollars, which relative to other positions isn't crazy.

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Speaker 2: Kyle and it caught up with him today. All right.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think at this point you wouldn't be that.

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Speaker 2: They are playing in low scoring games, colin field goals.

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Speaker 2: if they come like, hey, let's not do that anymore,

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't need to score a touchdown here

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Speaker 2: a dump down, throw it away you Just a field

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Speaker 2: goal ties the game. So that they got lucky to

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Speaker 2: be in this but they were in that situation for

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Speaker 2: a reason. Yeah, because he just never kicks field goals.

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Speaker 1: So I'm a Hurtz fan. He was twenty nine to

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Speaker 1: thirty eight eight Rushes. I am a fan. But we

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Speaker 1: have to acknowledge this.

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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 1: This is something I've talked about and it's in your wheelhouse.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is as elusive including Lamar, as almost anybody

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. But we know mostly as offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: have gotten bigger. There are guards now at six '

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Speaker 1: six that it helps for a quarterback to be six

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Speaker 1: two to six four. It's really an advantage. And sometimes Tua,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson and I think Jalen Hurts, I'm

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Speaker 1: not always sure they see the ball over the middle

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Speaker 1: of the field. I like Hurts. I think he's a

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Speaker 1: class act. I think he's an adult. I think he's

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Speaker 1: an easy guy to rally around. I think he's a

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Speaker 1: great athlete. Do you ever feel like watching them sometimes?

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Speaker 1: And I think this is sort of the AJ Brown thing.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to throw over the middle to AJ Brown,

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Speaker 1: you can throw over the top. That was always Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson's thing. Greg co Sel said he doesn't see the

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Speaker 1: middle of the field.

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Speaker 2: We didn't have to.

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Speaker 1: Russell was great at the tear drop throws, and I

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Speaker 1: think aj Brown when you take him out, there's some

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Speaker 1: limitation on the big playability. I don't know if Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts always sees the field even you buy that or not.

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Speaker 2: Well, he one percent doesn't. He's not great from within

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Speaker 2: the pocket. Whether that's physically he doesn't see it great

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Speaker 2: or just the speed in which everything happens. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: operate at the fast level of the elite guys of

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Speaker 2: Mahomes of Rogers. I don't even think that's debatable at

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Speaker 2: this point. That's why when he scrambles outside the pocket, Yes,

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Speaker 2: the good version of Deshaun Watson, the prime version of Russell.

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Speaker 2: They become elite when they do that. They can see

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Speaker 2: everything and they're comfortable throwing the ball far. But he's

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Speaker 2: not a great layered throw. Of all the little guys

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Speaker 2: you listed by a mile, Kyler spins it the best, right.

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Speaker 2: Kyle spins the ball out of his hands like he's

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Speaker 2: Stafford or Rogers. I'm telling you, even Watson today, I

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Speaker 2: know they kind of got work. He just he's a

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Speaker 2: remarkable talent I don't think Jalen is like a remarkable

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Speaker 2: talent from a throwing perspective.

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Speaker 1: I don't either.

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Speaker 2: He's a remarkable athlete, powerful his running, he turns into

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Speaker 2: a running back right with his power, his elusiveness. He's

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Speaker 2: a great outside the pocket thrower. Inside the pocket, I

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Speaker 2: would say he's pretty average for NFL starting right. He

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Speaker 2: ranks higher on the list as an overall player, but

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Speaker 2: that individual skill close to the middle of the pack. Like,

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Speaker 2: to me, Tua is a much better rhythm and timing player, yes,

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Speaker 2: because he doesn't have what Jalen has to run around right,

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Speaker 2: you watch Lamar today, he just has so much more

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Speaker 2: to bring to the table. Those guys can always go Okay,

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Speaker 2: I don't see it, fuck it, I'm just gonna take off. Well.

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Speaker 1: I think Jalen doesn't throw it like Kyler, and doesn't

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Speaker 1: doesn't run like Kyler, and doesn't throw it like Tua.

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Speaker 1: He's a bit of a tweeener. It's what I've always

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Speaker 1: said about Dak. There's no wow with Dak. He's competent

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Speaker 1: with Jalen. He's not a wow arm not wow accuracy

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Speaker 1: not He's elusive, but he's not like Lamar Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: or Josh Allen. So I think with Jalen he does

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Speaker 1: feel like the best of the B plus quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the league. I like him and I like his character.

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Speaker 1: It's why I like Dak. I like Dak's character and maturity.

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Speaker 1: But I when I watched Jalen throw, it just looks

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Speaker 1: prettier with Stafford, it looks easier. With Josh Allen, it

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Speaker 1: looks Kyler Murray. The ball just you can tell you

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Speaker 1: played baseball, just flies. Aaron Rodgers still throws a pretty ball. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Philadelphia escapes with a win. I feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm gonna watch Philadelphia. They're gonna win the division.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna win about ten to eleven games, and at

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Speaker 1: some point coaching or defense will lose them a football game.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know this just based We talk so much

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Speaker 2: about these contracts during the offseason, and they have gotten

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Speaker 2: so massive in the NFL, Right, yeah, NBA level status.

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Speaker 2: From an economical standpoint, there can't be a better value

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Speaker 2: than twenty seven million dollars guaranteed to Saquon Barkley, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they just can't. I mean, he won in

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Speaker 2: the game that he was dominant and on that big

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Speaker 2: run that ultimately sealed the game. That was like, Oh,

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Speaker 2: this is the Penn State version that still can run

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Speaker 2: about four to two in the open field. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: adding that guy. While they've had some disappointments, I think

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Speaker 2: their defensive line Jalen Carter was really good today. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Jordan Davis. They drafted over Kyle Hamilton. I think they'd

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Speaker 2: like that one back, Bryce Huff who they signed from

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Speaker 2: the Jets. Basically the flop with this on. He's not

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Speaker 2: an every down player. He's more of a pass rusher,

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Speaker 2: so he can get run on. But Saquon has been

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Speaker 2: incredible for them. And this was clear during the hard

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Speaker 2: Knocks when John Marrow was saying this, you went, it's

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Speaker 2: not gonna go well because Saquon's gonna look good. He's

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Speaker 2: looked even better. Yeah, the drop a little freakish. I

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Speaker 2: know his hands aren't exactly Marshall fall, but today he

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Speaker 2: just how good he looks and how confident he's running

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Speaker 2: in speed. He's a game breaker in relative they're paying

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Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk. They gave him over seventy five million dollars guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: Saquon got a third of that. So when you just

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Speaker 2: look at impact and look at the running backs right

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Speaker 2: now in the NFL. I know it went like everyone's like,

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Speaker 2: you know mel Kiper's comment last it's harder to throw

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Speaker 2: right now. Defenses are making it more difficult. The offensive

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Speaker 2: line plays down, Well, what's up all these running backs? Well,

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Speaker 2: who's really shining? All the top running backs? And Saquon's

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Speaker 2: knew the top of the list because he was, and

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Speaker 2: that's a tough place to play. That place was rocking.

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Speaker 2: He was, he was elite today.

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Speaker 1: tough for Caleb Williams is if you watch what Matt

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Speaker 1: Lafleur is doing with Malik Willis, who looked like he

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Speaker 1: watch what Kevin O'Connell is doing with Sam Donald and listen,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Dan Campbell is situationally a great coach,

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Speaker 1: but he's a culture builder. We got three coaches in

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Speaker 1: I'm watching Kevin and I look at Matt Eberflus and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you're not in that class. Forget that.

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Speaker 2: For now.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching Kevin O'Connell. Everything Donald does, now this is

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Speaker 1: to burst, Accuracy, playmaking, running deep ball and these reckless plays.

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Speaker 1: Now he got you know, he tried to extend a

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Speaker 1: play today. Ball gets on the carpet. But it's not

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Speaker 1: just that Donald's winning, John, He's clean the four touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: no picks. And this has been with banged up players

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Speaker 1: like I keep waiting for the bubble to burst. But

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Speaker 1: I watched them today and I'm like, shit, that wasn't competitive.

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Speaker 1: Houston got smoked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was a team that I don't

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Speaker 2: think any of us would be shocked as playing the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs in the AFC Championship game, right, And that was

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Speaker 2: And listen one thing Donald and that franchise that their

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Speaker 2: home field advantage is pretty awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you could tell how today was out of sorts

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Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that got going for him is this

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Speaker 2: guy has some serious question marks with his ability to

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Speaker 2: relate and deal with quarterbacks. But I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: any disputing that Flores is right up there with Spagnola

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Speaker 2: is the two best defensive coordinators in the NFL. Non

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Speaker 2: head coaches like true defensive coordinator. It's last week Kyle

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Speaker 2: and Perdy were like, we didn't even know what we were seeing,

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Speaker 2: and clearly Slowick and CJ were just over their head today.

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Speaker 2: What has happened to Sam Donald these last couple weeks,

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Speaker 2: last three weeks lead little pressure off that he plays comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Obviously they got skill guys, but as we talk on

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Speaker 2: September twenty second, we got a long way to go.

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Speaker 2: Like we're talking like an MVP candidate. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you just vote today, he might win it. But I

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Speaker 2: mean this guy and back to the Bears, you go.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Bears have any chance to not

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Speaker 2: be the fourth best team in this division with what

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing right now, because these other teams from a

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Speaker 2: coaching LaForce pulling like a picasso right.

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Speaker 1: Now, it's incredible.

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Speaker 2: I mean they dominated. He had Malik Willis looking like

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Speaker 2: a varsity guy versus Will Levis that looks like a

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Speaker 2: pee wee guy. I mean, it's just like not even

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Speaker 2: a fair fight when they just handed you Malik Willis

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Speaker 2: three weeks ago. So it's that's insane. Obviously, the lines

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Speaker 2: are good and what Minnesota is doing. Once you get

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Speaker 2: to like three and oh or four and one, you

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Speaker 2: can have a two game losing streak and still get

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Speaker 2: the ten wins pretty easily. You watch the Bears, they

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Speaker 2: look as dysfunctional as a team. I would say, is

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Speaker 2: any team in the league when you just watch them play,

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Speaker 2: you just go, this is not good. And when you

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Speaker 2: watch Minnesota pull the opposite, you go it feels crazy

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Speaker 2: to say, but like, is this an NFC contender?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny. First of all, the three or four

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Speaker 1: things that we think create that great head coach got it,

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Speaker 1: there's a great coordinator on a Super Bowl team, Demiko

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Speaker 1: Ryans with the Niners. Okay, so they've got a great coordinator.

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Speaker 1: And then usually situationally a good defensive team, there's a

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Speaker 1: you know, it sounds crazy, but you know if they

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Speaker 1: go four and oh, you can go five hundred until

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Speaker 1: week seventeen and you're a ten and sixteen you go

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Speaker 1: four and oh, you can scuff it. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you go back to last year, the good in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City had a bad month November. It's like the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl year when the Rams won it. They were

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Speaker 1: choppy early with Stafford.

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Speaker 2: Remember two years ago when the Vikings, they ended up

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Speaker 2: losing the Giants in the first round, but they won

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Speaker 2: the division and they had that crazy record in all

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Speaker 2: those one score games. I think they went twelve and

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Speaker 2: five and they had like a historic record one score games,

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Speaker 2: like twelve and one, and everyone's like, this is smoking mirrors.

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Speaker 2: This team isn't that good. This team looks completely different

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Speaker 2: than that team. Yes, right, they look real. That team

640
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: look a little fraudulent. It is. I mean, Sam's by

641
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: the time they get toward the big games, is gonna

642
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: keep getting a lot of reps and be really comfortable.

643
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: And the other thing is your head coach gets to

644
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: really know what he's good at, what he's not good at.

645
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: And when you got that good of a defense, it

646
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: is just we talk about like a running game and

647
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: a tight end being a quarterbacks best friend. You know,

648
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: what's the quarterback's best friend? When the other team can't score, right,

649
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: that's what the other team can't don't They can barely

650
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: move the ball past midfield. The Texans offense has one

651
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: of the best round quarterbacks we've ever seen, just based

652
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: on record and stats. They are loaded with skill guys

653
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: and have a coach that basically everyone has already put

654
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: into a head coaching position by next year or the

655
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 2: next two years in Bobby Sloak, and they got ransacked today.

656
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Well, at the end of you know, not only do

657
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: the Vikings have the components of a really good team,

658
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: but I had said this when they exchanged Darnld and McCarthy,

659
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: by the way, who they drafted for Kirk Cousins, they

660
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: just lacked juice, like they can't do anything off script,

661
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: which has always been a golf actually ran for a

662
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: first down in the game ceiling play today, which I

663
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: thought was kind of funny. But by and large, with

664
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, you can win a lot of games without

665
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback that moves. But Donald gives them what they

666
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: were hoping JJ McCarthy gives them. With Kevin o'conn, he

667
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: just gives you a juice. Stafford doesn't give you a

668
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: ton of that. But Matt is as good as Brady

669
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: pre snap and throws the prettiest ball arguably in the league.

670
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: So when you're that good Brady in the pocket pre snap,

671
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: Brady throws a ball like that, it allows you. And

672
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: also Brady and Stafford moved great within the pocket, they're

673
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: great between the tackles. They move constantly. But I you know,

674
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: I just I'm just watching them, and I'm like the coach,

675
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: the coordinator, the quarterback, and Darnald. To knock on Darnal,

676
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: I always said this, there's a little Andrew Louck, a

677
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: little and a little Carson Wentz. And he became a

678
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: bad version of Carson Wentz, which is he's big, he's strong,

679
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: he's athletic, he's tough, but Jesus is he reckless. You

680
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: take out the reckless from Darnald and I get the big, strong,

681
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: tough playmaker. You know, this is why people drafted him early.

682
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think last year changed his life. I think,

683
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: you know, seeing Brock, who's not as talented him, and

684
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: he even said this, he's like watching the way that

685
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: guy prepared. And then being around Kyle, who is like,

686
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 2: you know, an old school nineteen eighties coach in terms

687
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: of how he wants things done. I think gave him

688
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: a whole new perspective on just his football career. And

689
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: then Kevin O'Connell came through. The Niners wanted to keep him,

690
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: but they couldn't pay ten million dollars. I think I

691
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: said this last week, and I don't know how I

692
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: can't say it again. If this continues and they make

693
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: the playoffs and they win a playoff game, it's not

694
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: like they traded up like some of these other teams

695
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: to get JJ. He just fell into their lap essentially, right.

696
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: They didn't mortgage three first round picks. Do you just

697
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: let him go? I mean, everyone's like, why do we talk?

698
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: These are conversations that you start having. This is a

699
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 2: real life thing. JJ's on a cheap contract. He wasn't

700
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 2: the number one pick. He was like the tenth or eleventh,

701
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: so his contract's not crazy. Do you extend Sam Darnold

702
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: if this if you win twelve games and he's that

703
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: good with your head coat, isn't the whole point of

704
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: this just to find a quarterback? Yeah? Right, So it's like,

705
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: you don't just let him hit free agency and go

706
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: we'll see with JJ, because we're going, we're going we'll

707
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: see with and how's that going?

708
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: By the way, you could probably get Darnold for him,

709
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: and he's so appreciative of fun. You know, Sam's made

710
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: some money in his career. You get him for a steal.

711
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 2: Well, wouldn't you just give him like two years sixty

712
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: million dollars guarantee at all. I'd offer that to him

713
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, Now, maybe he wants to hit the market.

714
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: Maybe you go, well, we could franchise tag you. These

715
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: are good problems to have because clearly they like JJ.

716
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: But you can't just go with the hope and a

717
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: prayer and fingers crossed. Like, I know he looked good

718
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: in that preseason game, but already hurt, you know, I mean,

719
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: this was a guy that had some developmental questions. Still,

720
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: this is a twenty seven year old highly developed from

721
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 2: a much scene at all. That's the thing. You cannot

722
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: fake going through the shit and coming out on the

723
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: other end when you do have the We've seen this

724
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: historically in the NFL Rich Now, Rich was older when

725
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: he got to Gruden. Some of these guys just resurrect

726
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: their career and they just become what you kind of

727
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: always thought they could become. And that's what Sam has

728
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: done for three weeks. Today was like today was an

729
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: eye opener for their team him specific same hits Tamiko

730
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: in that defense was that's one of the best wins

731
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: of the year by far.

732
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, JJ McCarthy had a tweet today. By the way,

733
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: it was Sam Darnold's really good at football.

734
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 2: I thought that was and that also speaks to why

735
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: character matters so much in the NFL. Look at Pani's

736
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: handled it perfectly. Haven't heard a peep JJ McCarthy doing

737
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: stuff like that. When you get in these weird positions

738
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: with some of these questionable guys at that position, you

739
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: can get weird. So it just won't get weird, right

740
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: because JJ is such a high level dude.

741
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: All right, Cowboys Ravens. Cowboys made a furious comeback late,

742
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 1: but we should go back to the first half where

743
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: Baltimore had a huge lead average eight point eight yards

744
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: of play. Dallas was demoralized and it looked like the

745
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: fourth time between Buffalo and Green Bay last year, the

746
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: Saints in Baltimore. This year, Dallas was getting their doors

747
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: loan off. Now again Baltimore's Now they lost a lead

748
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: to the Raiders. They lost a big lead. This is

749
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: kind of I mean, Lamar Jackson struggled with some accuracy

750
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: when he could have sown stuff up. He had Mark

751
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: Edwards wide open on a play on a third down.

752
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: You know, I've I've come back to Dallas once and

753
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: I said, in this game, forty percent of daks wins

754
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: are against the Giants in Washington at the height of

755
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: their dysfunction. The New York Giants now have cleaned up

756
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: that offensive line a little bit, and they actually look

757
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: pretty good today. The Daniel Jones doesn't look as nervous

758
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: neighbors as an absolutely freaking stud.

759
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 2: Jesus, is he good? Holy shit? Is he good? Yeah?

760
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, you know, the Giants had

761
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: Now Dallas is going to New York pretty soon and

762
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: Dallas is offensive lineay football. Yeah. And so by the way,

763
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: Giants old line is pretty good and the Dallas d

764
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: lines getting pushed around. So that game is going to

765
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: be really interesting. But my take was, and I said

766
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: that this week is in a big game, I'm gonna

767
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: take Lamar over Dak. I just don't think Dallas that talented.

768
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: I do think they're a little better at wide receiver

769
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: that I gave him credit for. But the defensive line

770
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: Baltimore averaged through three quarters nine yards of play on

771
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: the road. So my take is the better team won.

772
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't really that close, and that we've got to

773
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: I said this at the end of last year, John,

774
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: I felt the Niners had peaked because of their age,

775
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: and I felt Dallas was going to slowly regress. We

776
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: were going to see now they were going to go

777
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: on ten wins from twelve, and the next year it'll

778
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: be nine wins. I look at Dallas and the blame

779
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: to me is not on Dak. Jerry, You've missed on

780
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: too many picks this pass draft, nobody's ready popped. I

781
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: just don't think Dallas has elite personal I think I

782
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: look at Philadelphia, I look at Kansas City, I look

783
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: at the Niners. I see elite Detroit. I don't see

784
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: it with Dallas.

785
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 2: Why I would say this one thing with Dallas the

786
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: last three years winning twelve games. Obviously last year Dak

787
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 2: had a career year. But their defense under Dan Quinn,

788
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: there's a reason he became a hot head coaching candidate.

789
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: They're really really good. At one point in time early

790
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: in game, and felt like Baltimore was gonna rush for

791
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: four hundred yards. It was insane, you know, it was crazy.

792
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: And we say this a lot about Dallas. They're a

793
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: great front runner because they get a lead and their

794
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: defensive line is fast. I think we're learning. They're not

795
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 2: very powerful, right, and you can run the ball right

796
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: down your throat. And I understand passing the league everyone.

797
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 2: These teams now have no problem obviously playing the Ravens,

798
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: the Saints, all these teams. They're good running backs on

799
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 2: all over the place. They will run it all day

800
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 2: long on you until you can prove you can stop it.

801
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: And when you're giving up five six yards to carry,

802
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: there's no point to call passes. So did you think

803
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: that was I know it was impressive. The last seven

804
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: eight minutes. A little bit of a hollow comeback, that's

805
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: what I think they hit. They hit an on side kick.

806
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: It was just like John, I thought, the RAM does

807
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: not reflect what I witnessed, right, Like.

808
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: I thought the Rams niners. I thought the Rams played

809
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: their ass off. They were hanging around the whole game.

810
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: They were making big plays on third down. Listen, Jennings

811
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: just is the best numbers receiver in football. Jenning's a

812
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: He was a great college player at Tennessee. I mean

813
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: they stole him in the sixth round and he just

814
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: gets better every year. Like that kid just and he's

815
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: a weird body type. Like there's just not a lot

816
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: of massive, huge hands, huge length. He's just hard to defend.

817
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: And the Rams don't have great corners. But I felt

818
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: like Dallas sometimes you just get into these games and

819
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: it's hard to ask your play especially if you physically

820
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: dominated John, it'd be one thing off its trick plays

821
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: or over the top. When you physically dominate Dallas for

822
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: three quarters average nine yards of play, it's hard to

823
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: ask your guys to bring their best stuff in the fourth.

824
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 2: They feel small on defense. They just feel small. You know,

825
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 2: one thing you saw with the Rams today. I don't

826
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 2: know much about their linebackers, and they let Ernest Jones

827
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: go for a reason. They felt good about some of

828
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: the random guys they had. They were making play. Yeah,

829
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: they had a lot of just tackles in the hole

830
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: against the forty nine ers vaunted running game. Obviously, the

831
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: Niners have Fred Warner, you see who do the Ravens

832
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: have Rokwan Smith? You watch Dallas, Their linebacker plays bad

833
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: and their defensive tackles clearly aren't that great. And I

834
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: wouldn't call Micah exactly Reggie White against no run no.

835
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: So it's like when you attack them, where does Micah

836
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 2: kill you? When they're up twenty to ten in the

837
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: third quarter, and he can just tee off on second

838
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: and third and long. Well, they get down, they just

839
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: get leaning on you. And it's happened two weeks in

840
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: a row. It just feels like Dallas gets overwhelmed. It's

841
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: crazy to say, but must win this week at New York.

842
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: You start one to three. I like Dallas to be

843
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: a playoff team this year, but after these two weeks, shit,

844
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 2: I gotta reconsider.

845
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: I watched every play of the Giants game. Now again,

846
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: I don't buy DeShawn Watson, but Daniel Jones does not

847
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: seem as nervous. He's throwing with confidence. Neighbors isn't better today? Yeah,

848
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: Neighbors is an absolute bona fide number one. There is

849
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: no forget developing. He's a number one in the league. Now,

850
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: all their second, third, and fourth receivers feel slotted in

851
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: the right spot. They got a lot of threes their

852
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: offensive line. This is like you know in New York,

853
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is going to get all the love if

854
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: you pay attention to the Giants offensive lines actually playing

855
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: and they put draft capital into it. They hit in

856
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 1: a left tackle. So and I think we both agree

857
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: that Brian Dables. I like him more than you do,

858
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: but I think he's a clearly good I think he's

859
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: a good offensive coach.

860
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: I don't mind him as a head coach. I mean

861
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: he approved a couple of years ago. He's even this year,

862
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: Like it's not to me. They got more personnel issue

863
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: than Brian Daball. Yeah, but I have a little emotional

864
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: bit of a roller coaster, but it feels like he's

865
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 2: calmed it down a little. Yeah.

866
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: I think Thursday Night's a real game. I would take

867
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: Dallas to win it. But I think Thursday Night's a

868
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: real game. And I think the years of Dallas. You know,

869
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: for years, Big Bend just rolled over Cincinnati and Cleveland.

870
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: You know, then Joe Burrow shows up and then Cleveland

871
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: gets Baker. Now so okay, now those are real teams.

872
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean, for ten years, Big Ben just put down

873
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: like three out of four or four out of four wins.

874
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: And I feel like Dallas for years forty percent of

875
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: Dax wins or Washington New York. Well, Washington's got a

876
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: good staff. J is a little electric, He's got some stuff.

877
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: The Giants aren't great, but they have a chance to

878
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: win this home game. I feel like John, I feel

879
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: like Dallas. Like the Steelers had this like eight year

880
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: window of total lysfunction in Washington, New York, and Philadelphia

881
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: was a little up and down Philadelphia. The Giants in

882
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: Washington now feel formidable, at least formidable to me.

883
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: Dallas too, like the Niners clearly had a Super Bowl

884
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: window there where they just couldn't get over the hump

885
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 2: a couple of times against Kansas City. And now it's

886
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: gonna be they got their backs against the wall. Dallas

887
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: had just get the monkey out their back get to

888
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: the NFC Championship game. They had a home field advantage

889
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: in a couple two of the last three years. That's awesome.

890
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: That's over.

891
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: So it's like and now I had been saying when

892
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: you kind of look around, Belichick's got about seven million jobs.

893
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: You can find him everywhere. I mean, this guy could

894
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: be doing anything in the world. He's just watching Take

895
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven. I mean this, I thought Jacksonville

896
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: was a team to keep an eye on. That they

897
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 2: played Monday night. That thing could employ. That owner's got

898
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: some money. The Cowboys come back to the forefront. If

899
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they lose on Thursday and this

900
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: thing starts to get away from Mike, and I gotta

901
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: change my tune because a couple of weeks ago, I

902
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 2: was like, you know, Mike and Dak have such a

903
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: good working relationship. It's going so well, but now you

904
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: start losing. He doesn't have a contract. That conversation, don't

905
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: you think is gonna get the fire's gonna get lit

906
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: under it? I mean, Jerry, they by no means on

907
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: what they've looked like last two weeks against obviously two

908
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 2: talented teams, they didn't even look close. That's the scary part.

909
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're not a lock playoff team by any means. Clearly,

910
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: I got it. I might be wrong on that one, so.

911
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: I think in previous years you could have blamed McCarthy.

912
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: I don't think this is all. I don't think this

913
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: is Mike.

914
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: But he but does he if they go eight to nine? Yeah,

915
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a contract. So it's like, and what

916
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: are the Cowboys gonna do? Like, they're not gonna hire

917
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 2: some Ben Johnson guy, are they? You know? Jerry? Because

918
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: the thing is with Mike, say what you want is

919
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: it's you're not going to upgrade with some coordinator. More

920
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 2: likely over him, so you got it. It'd be Vrabel

921
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: or Belichick. You'd almost have to get a proven name

922
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: that you feel good about. There are really just a

923
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: couple options for them.

924
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: I would go with Rabel, who I think is a

925
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: great coach, and I also think he doesn't need to

926
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: dominate personnel. I think one of the things that really

927
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,479
Speaker 1: hurts when you watch New England play on Thursday against

928
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and you go, Jesus Belichick handed girod Meo

929
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: a mess. They have no players offensively those standalone games

930
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: with New England. It's a reminder that Bill controlled personnel

931
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: for seven years. Tennessee's got players, they just don't have

932
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Tennessee's got guys. You know, Will Levis just

933
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's time for this week's player I thought

934
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: might give almost almost anything to redo his game, brought

935
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941
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Speaker 1: Bears Colts. Bears lose to the Colts twenty one to sixteen,

942
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: ugly game. So I mean Anthony Richardson went ten for

943
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: twenty two picks and he won.

944
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: So it is not pretty. I mean it was like

945
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: an orgy performance yesterday in Michigan. It was a mess.

946
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. This is incredible. Chicago had more

947
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: yards a twenty sixteen to fifteen first down edge, dominates

948
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: time of possessions, four for five.

949
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: On fourth down.

950
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: Caleb's thirty four to fifty two with a couple of touchdowns,

951
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: but again no run game. I don't know what they are. Offensively,

952
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: they're very Caleb Williams reliant and on deep balls, he's

953
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: just not accurate, Like he's not. He can around, he

954
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: can do stuff. But I say it again, I watched

955
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: Boon Nicks today with an offensive coach. You know, we

956
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: could acknowledge now that Steelers defense is fricking great. Okay,

957
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: so bo neck struggled with it. I watched him today

958
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: run past terror part Tampa. So again bo Nicks taking

959
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: huge strides and you can tell exactly what Sean Payton

960
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: wants Denver's offense to be you can see it. They're

961
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: using bo Nicks's I don't know what the Bears aren't.

962
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: They're just yards, they're just yards and plays they don't run.

963
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: What are they.

964
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: To me?

965
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: Caleb stats were a little padded toward the end of

966
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: the game. He was pretty bad. The first half was atrocious.

967
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: Two things can be true because I think we see

968
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: this with like Bryce Young and Andy Dalton. Situation is

969
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: the situation for a young quarterback is not ideal in

970
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: terms of the coaching around you, right, and some personnel.

971
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 2: It's hard because we applauded the talent on the field,

972
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: and then you're watching him. You go, well, the offensive

973
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 2: line is not very good and like you said, they

974
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: can't run the ball well. Running the ball helps a

975
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: young quarterback, of course, so you know the Bear's history

976
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: speaks for itself. But then you watch Caleb in individual plays,

977
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: he feels a little overwhelmed slash. He's just out of source.

978
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: He has not played well and there are basic layup

979
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: throws and this goes to Bryce Young two that like,

980
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 2: independent of the organization and independent of anything going on,

981
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: he should be making and he's not. Like Anthony Richton

982
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: is kind of clear might just be a disaster that

983
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: might be a major problem for Indy. Indy, right, he

984
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: just might be an inaccurate quarterback.

985
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: He's a fifty He's a fifty percent completion guy with

986
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen, and I think their receivers are not that

987
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, they're good enough, Piers, they're good enough. He's

988
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: a fifty percent completion quarterback.

989
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 2: And it doesn't even feel close to the wide receiver

990
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: or Caleb has these guys open. Maybe he's thinking too much.

991
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: I think he feels sped up. You know, when you

992
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: don't build confidence early, you start kind of overcompensating. You

993
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: start thinking instead of just playing. The one thing he

994
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: did a couple of years at USC, he just played. Yeah, right,

995
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: just let it play. Now, he feels like everything he's

996
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: kind of feeling out. He's running into sacks. He just

997
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: everything looks out of whack. I mean, he doesn't, let's

998
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 2: face it, given the hype, which I thought was mainly justified,

999
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 2: it has been a disaster. And like, to me, when

1000
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: you watch that game, like the way he's playing equals

1001
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: coach get fired. That's what I thought, right, because you know,

1002
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: so it's like all those guys, given how good their

1003
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 2: division turns out to be. We knew that, but I

1004
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: mean Lafleur, what he's doing with Malik willis like what

1005
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 2: happens if you just gave Lafour Caleb Williams, Right, that's

1006
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 2: what you're talking to yourself about. If you're Ryan Poles,

1007
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: that to me is another team. And this is back

1008
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 2: to Dallas with Rabel, Ryan Poles, offensive lineman, tough guy

1009
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: like Vrabel makes a lot of sense in Chicago, a

1010
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 2: lot of sense if I'm Ryan Pohle. So all of

1011
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: a sudden, you start going eva Flus is in major trouble.

1012
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: He was in trouble coming into this season. Well, and

1013
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: now instead of being like, oh, you know, coming into

1014
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: the year, I pumped the brakes on everyone. You know,

1015
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: people were like ten to eleven wins. If they went

1016
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: nine to eight with a rookie quarterback, and they look promising,

1017
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 2: that'd be awesome. They look like a six win team

1018
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: right now. Colin Indianapolis was like historically poor back to

1019
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: back weeks on defense, Yeah, and they were kicking Caleb's

1020
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: ass toga yeah, And I get it's on the road,

1021
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: but man, that was if I was a Bears fan

1022
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 2: right now, I'd be pretty despondent because it's like, this

1023
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: is exactly why we never get excited, because it always

1024
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 2: turns out to be this.

1025
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: And remember, Green Bay is going to get Jordan Love back.

1026
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: They've got about a five this week, and they got

1027
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: a five year window where outside of Jordan Love, they're

1028
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: paying nobody. On offense, they have drafted and developed so

1029
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: well so and we know with Kevin O'Connell their offensive

1030
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: pieces are great. And Detroit finally today figured out we're

1031
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: a run team. Montgomery Gibbs had thirty five carries. So

1032
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: you're not winning in this league scoring twenty three points.

1033
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: This is the best offensive coach and the best offensive

1034
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: personnel you can do a Pro Bowl team with the

1035
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: NFC North. Just do a Pro Bowl team. I get

1036
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: all the coaches, I'll take flores on defense. You know,

1037
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: whoever you want an offense, you could compete in a

1038
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl.

1039
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: And so the.

1040
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: Downside, you have a defensive coach a rookie quarterback and

1041
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: both are over their head at times. And it's so

1042
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: what's happening to this division is in twenty twenty four

1043
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,479
Speaker 1: and beyond is the Bears have to score twenty seven

1044
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: to win some of these games. That's just the reality

1045
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: of it.

1046
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: I just pulled up their schedule. I mean I read

1047
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: it the mccaskeys. I don't know if they pull the

1048
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: trigger super early, but the should argue if they lose

1049
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: these next two games at home Rams Panthers.

1050
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: They're not beating the Rams because are getting healthier and

1051
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 1: the Panthers today with Andy Dalton, have a pulse.

1052
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 2: So if all of a sudden you're one and four

1053
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: with back to back losses at home to those two teams,

1054
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: do you just kind of pull the trigger and just

1055
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: start You're new? And that's this gets back to Caleb.

1056
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 2: This is why start pick your coach last year instead

1057
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 2: of having a guy come in on the hot seat.

1058
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 2: This is the dysfunction. This is what Bryce went through.

1059
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: It's just okay, here's the problem with the interim coach stuff.

1060
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: Let's say you're one in six and you go with

1061
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: Shane Waldron and he goes five hundred the rest of

1062
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: her way, and then the guys like him, and then

1063
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: the locker room loves him. The media jumps in and

1064
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: Shane Waldron nothing against him, But he's not Bobby Slowick.

1065
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: He's he's not Brian Flores. I am so against the

1066
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: interim thing because you've seen this, We've seen this twenty

1067
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: times as adults. Is it's like in college you always

1068
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: hire the coordinator. And nothing against Michigan football, and they

1069
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 1: deserve the W yesterday, their D line, just in gold

1070
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: USC's O line with freshmen and sophomores everywhere. But in

1071
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: the end, that coach from Michigan would not have been

1072
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: a top five candidate any other big job and so

1073
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: and that's okay, he's a Michigan guy. But if you

1074
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: bail on Eberflus and Waldron goes five hundred, you're hiring him,

1075
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: and maybe he would work, but I don't think he'd

1076
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: be a candidate otherwise.

1077
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's to me. If it's you know,

1078
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: some of these crazy owners, Eberflus would be in major

1079
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 2: like you would be like, no chance he makes it

1080
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: to Halloween on this bace. But given the mccaskey's more

1081
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: than likely they just ride it out. He gets canned.

1082
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: But it's it is not gone. Well, I would say

1083
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: no team had more hype, rightfully, So you get two

1084
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: top ten picks, you get this quarterback, and they have

1085
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: looked lifeless. They really have, and some of it to me,

1086
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 2: I think, listen, I'm hard as anyone on coaches, but

1087
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: individual players, when you're in a position and the guy's open,

1088
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 2: you have to make the pass. I mean the difference

1089
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: between Bryce Young, some of these guys coming out to

1090
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: Bryce Young's defense, like, this is the NFL and if

1091
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: you can't make basic passes, there are fifty two other

1092
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 2: guys in the locker room where ninety percent of your

1093
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 2: roster is not on guaranteed contracts. They don't give a

1094
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: shit about his feelings. We're trying to win. I'm laying

1095
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: on the lead great today and today Andy Dalton comes.

1096
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: He looks like Joe Bontana. He looked incredible. So I think, listen,

1097
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: we can It's easy to rip on the on the

1098
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 2: David Tepper in the organization and they've earned a lot

1099
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: of that, but can we just admit today like Bryce

1100
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: Young has been one of the has had one of

1101
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: the worst I don't know, fifteen game stretches we've ever seen. Right,

1102
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 2: Like I was in the car the other day when

1103
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: he got benched. I'm flipping around the radio. I hear

1104
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: rich Gannon say they hadn't had a lead for ten

1105
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: straight games, hadn't had a lead, They'd won two games

1106
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: on last second field goals. Hadn't that a lead today,

1107
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 2: Andy Dalton, they had a lead immediate, Like, think how

1108
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: hard that is to not just have a seven to

1109
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: nothing lead in one game? They had count and clearly

1110
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 2: part of it him and the difference of like Caleb,

1111
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 2: Caleb has physical attributes, Bryce just doesn't. Like that's just

1112
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: a five to ten guy that can't move and has

1113
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: an average arm. Like that, there's a chance and this

1114
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: happens in sports sometimes at every level. He's just bad.

1115
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 2: Maybe he's just not good enough. Good guy, tries hard,

1116
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: not good enough, Andy Dalton, up and down career. He's

1117
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 2: an NFL player, Like we can look back in five years.

1118
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: The story today that people were thinking about trading for

1119
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: Bryce Young. I thought it was kind of crazy. He's

1120
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: the number one overall pick. Now. I understand they wouldn't

1121
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 2: trade much, but he makes a lot. Andy Dalton like that,

1122
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: that's a backup Sam Darnold last year. That's a backup.

1123
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: If I'm gonna pay five six million dollars, that's how

1124
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: much Bryce makes. I better feel pretty good about my backup.

1125
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: Like those guys play like you put Bryce Young in

1126
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: a game right now, you're guaranteed to loose, guaranteed to

1127
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 2: look like that's I'm watching some of the Bears wide

1128
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 2: receivers Tyson Badgett like they had some success. Like if

1129
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 2: you're DJ Moore, like get me the ball, Like what

1130
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: are we doing? Wide receiver? Sometimes turn on the guy

1131
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 2: before the coaching staff and the fans. You know, they

1132
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: can be a little divish, rightfully, so they used to

1133
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 2: get in the ball. The ball starts flying over their head.

1134
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: This is just uncharted territory for Caleb. You know, it's

1135
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: just like any player. I mean, you become a rookie.

1136
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: You got to the hype, you get the money. Think

1137
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 2: how much easier it was for Trevor he was in Jacksonville.

1138
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 2: Then be fans they have. I mean this Chicago, this

1139
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: is tough. It's gonna be a long week there. I

1140
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 2: can't imagine sports sook radio, the articles. I mean, the

1141
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: open locker room for the press. This is is welcome

1142
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: to the NFL.

1143
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: Rook Well, I had said before the season, let's go

1144
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay Denver Klobbersom twenty six to seven, and

1145
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: I had sent In the first couple of weeks, I said,

1146
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: listen bow Nick's opening against Mike McDonald, the Seahawks crowd

1147
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: corners and a pro and Gino Smith.

1148
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 2: That's a bad open.

1149
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: Then we go next week it's the Steelers, and it's like, oh,

1150
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,479
Speaker 1: this is a real defense. Go ask the Chargers today.

1151
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: Today Ampa defense, that's dinged up Vitavilla at the back end.

1152
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: Bon Nicks forty seven rushing yards twenty five to thirty

1153
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: six Denver bloom Out wasn't competitive second straight week. I'll

1154
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: say this, I'm not anti Baker. Second straight week he

1155
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: was really rough on third down. He was just not

1156
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: moving the chains.

1157
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 2: Off the awful interception today on the side of.

1158
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: Thy Yeah, Baker is off. And again second straight week

1159
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: they couldn't make crucial plays on third down. But when

1160
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: I watched bone next today, this is what Sean Payton

1161
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: kept texting me. It's like, you know it's gonna be bumpy,

1162
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: but he moves you and I talked about this. He

1163
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: moves much better than people think.

1164
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1165
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: You know, It's like Jalen Hurts isn't fast, but he's elusive.

1166
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: Bone Nicks is not quite as elusive. But he's kind

1167
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: of quick, like he can get to the corner. And

1168
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: I'll say this again, they're not babying him. Remember Big

1169
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: Ben's first year with Pittsburgh, he'd throw like sixteen times

1170
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: a game, even to the Super Bowl.

1171
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: It was like Michigan.

1172
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just for protecting him. Shawn's I'm not protecting him.

1173
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: He threw it like forty some times. Against the Steelers,

1174
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: he threw thirty six times.

1175
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: Today.

1176
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: They're running an offense that you would run with Geno Smith.

1177
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: They don't care. And I said before the season, all

1178
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: these young quarterbacks, Caleb Jaden, they all have defensive coaches,

1179
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: Drake May, Sean Payton. I think the development of what

1180
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: this kid is doing is I'm watching him. He made

1181
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: a leap today, John, he looked like a grown up.

1182
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah to me, if when you can run the ball

1183
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: and your defense plays well, Sean Payton like, he's gonna

1184
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 2: learn what I can call and what I can't call

1185
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: for this player and what he's comfortable with. And the

1186
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: only way you learn that is through going through it.

1187
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: Like you said, Seattle looks freaking good. Yeah, I mean,

1188
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 2: and obviously Pittsburgh's defense is elite, but today felt like

1189
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: the Buccaneers spent all week looking at their record and

1190
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 2: looking at the Broncos record and were like, yeah, we're

1191
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: not really going to pay attention. We'll see on game day.

1192
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: And they just got boat raced. And this is the

1193
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: thing with the NFL. All of a sudden, you zero

1194
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: and two, zero to three. Yeah, teams do not want

1195
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: to get embarrassed. Bob had that awesome play with his legs.

1196
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: You don't turn the ball over. That helps because he's

1197
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: been throwing the ball to the other team. I mean

1198
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: he's had some passes that also did not get picked

1199
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 2: that should have been. He just looked like in complete control.

1200
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 2: And you have to wonder, mature guy, a little older,

1201
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 2: maybe his speed up process, Like maybe we don't have

1202
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 2: to wait till December. Maybe within three or four weeks,

1203
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: he's gonna look more comfortable now they're talent around them.

1204
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: When they play the better team. I think they play

1205
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: the Chiefs next week, he's gonna get overwhelmed at times.

1206
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: Look at Sean's quotes. He had a quote last week

1207
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: like I feel great about it. We're unfazed. That to

1208
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 2: me speaks to when you get these veteran head coaches

1209
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: like what's Eberflu's gonna be able to say, you know,

1210
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: I can lean on by seven playoff appearances, like he can't.

1211
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 2: He can't say any of that. And that's where Sean everyone,

1212
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 2: we're gonna be okay, even though, like, what do you

1213
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 2: think best case is for them this year? Seven eight wins?

1214
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 2: That's best case? Listen.

1215
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: I thought they would People said they were five to

1216
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: five and a half. I thought they would get eight.

1217
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,959
Speaker 1: They don't have a consistent pass rush. Bo is still young,

1218
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: They're in a tough division. The charters and the chiefs

1219
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: are really good, so you know, their schedules pretty damn formidable.

1220
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: I think if they go I think, if you get

1221
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: to seven and you week, yeah, if you get to seven.

1222
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: Because I thought they were one of the better over teams.

1223
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: I've always said, I think they're receivers. I think they

1224
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: have more talent on the perimeter. But I think they

1225
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: have more talent on the perimeter. I thought there did

1226
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: a running back make a hell of a run today

1227
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: around the corner. He did a I forget the name

1228
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: of the player, sorry about that. I just think Denver's

1229
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: got a little more juice offensively that people give him

1230
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: credit for. But I just like and Bo had some

1231
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 1: bad throws. He had a really he missed on a couple.

1232
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: But I just I like what I see.

1233
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: First of all, he's older, he's married, sixty one, starts,

1234
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: the offensive coach pretty damn good receivers and backs this.

1235
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: I think he's got an advantage that the market isn't

1236
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: recognid between the college starts, the maturity body. Had five

1237
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: coordinators in five years in college. This kid's seen everything.

1238
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: I just now he may be really close to his ceiling,

1239
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: John Like, this may be, you know, he may be

1240
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: seventy percent of the ceiling. But I see an athletic

1241
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: guy who's accurate, coachable, gets rid of the ball quickly.

1242
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: If they can improve their offensive line, I think you can.

1243
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 2: You can.

1244
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: This is a wildcard team potentially over the next few years.

1245
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: Well, let's face it. We talked about this last week.

1246
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: Twelve wins for hardball, and then you're watching the first

1247
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: half the day, you're like, God, this this classic hardball.

1248
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, that foot, that ankle, whatever's

1249
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: going on with Justin Herbert and the way it kind

1250
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 2: of like did he reinjure that plan of fascia? You know,

1251
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 2: because he already had the ankle. That that is extremely

1252
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 2: and that once he goes out, they got no shot,

1253
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 2: right right, But that that is one of the biggest

1254
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 2: wildcards in the NFL because if he's just in and

1255
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: out of a lineup, if he's fully healthy, they probably

1256
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: win today. And I feel pretty confident like this classic

1257
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 2: Harball team eleven twelve win lock. Then the moment he

1258
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 2: starts limping around, You're like, did someone fall on him?

1259
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 2: And they show the replay, No, you just reinjured it

1260
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: stepping handing the ball off. You're like, Oh, this is

1261
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: something that is just not gonna go away clearly, which

1262
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: is scary because I love watching Jim Harball when he

1263
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: has like a C plus B minus roster saying bring

1264
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 2: it on everybody, and he was doing it again today.

1265
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I think we should do an

1266
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: award every week for coach of the Week. So Green

1267
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: Bay tags Tennessee thirty.

1268
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 2: To fourteen, crushes him.

1269
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur on scripted stuff. Now you and I know

1270
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Speaker 1: first couples the first quarters scripted, Green Bay gets seventeen

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Speaker 1: points quickly, that's scripted for Malik willis malite. They one

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Speaker 1: hundred ninety passing one hundred eighty eight rushing. The kid

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Speaker 1: goes thirteen for nineteen, a touchdown, no pick, seven different targets.

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Speaker 1: This is a young team. It's not like he can

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Speaker 1: rely on a veteran third down receiver or he's got

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01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: a Devonte Adams. These are all kids. These are twenty

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Speaker 1: three year old receivers. For them to take Malik Willis.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching today and I'm like, they had almost four

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Speaker 1: hundred yards offense and on the scripted stuff early. That's

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Speaker 1: what really worries me about Chicago. They're horrible, and they're

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01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: terrible on their first three series. It's like, that's the

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Speaker 1: scripted stuff Green Bay. I mean, I'm Matt Lafleur. You know,

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01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: for years and years it was always understood that Aaron

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01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: and him kind of almost shared offensive duties. Like Aaron's

1285
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: gonna do some of his own stuff, and he'd earned that.

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Speaker 2: I'm good with that.

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Speaker 1: What he's done with Malik Willis, I mean I'll say

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Speaker 1: this one year ago. I mean, good God, Tennessee got

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01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: rid of I mean they bailed on him. I mean,

1290
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: you almost always just keep a guy, make him a backup.

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01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: They didn't even want to give him a shot to start.

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01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: They thought will Levis was an upgrade. Matt Leflor is

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Speaker 1: a great football coach.

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Speaker 2: That's my take. They traded him to a team that

1295
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 2: they were playing three weeks later. I mean that you

1296
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 2: just never know, right, I mean, if you traded into

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01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 2: a team that you might have to see and they

1298
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: probably never even thought twice about it and within two

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Speaker 2: if you would have told me two weeks ago that

1300
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 2: Malik Willis looks like everything we thought Anthony Richardson was

1301
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: going to look like, that's the crazy part. I mean

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01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 2: today he's running around, He's obviously been much more accurate

1303
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: than I think anyone anticipated. Give him the game ball

1304
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 2: last week he gives it to the entire team. It

1305
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 2: really is people, you know. Mike McDaniel is a media favorite,

1306
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: like he's got Schrager loves them and some of the

1307
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 2: guys love him, and I get it. He's a nice guy.

1308
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 2: Might be the most overrated coach in the NFL. I

1309
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 2: mean that, Look, he's got is gonna wear thin when

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01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: he goes five and twelve. But Lafleur does not get

1311
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 2: discussed nearly as much. And part of that, like you said,

1312
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 2: get a little overwhelmed by Aaron Rodgers. Aaron had been

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01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 2: gone now for a while. Yeah, Jordan Love threw thirty

1314
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: three touchdowns. Jordan Love gets hurt on a night game

1315
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: halfway across the world, comes back and wins two games

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Speaker 2: with a guy that no other team probably would have

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01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 2: traded for, and pretty convincingly. I mean today they beat

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Speaker 2: the shit out of him on the road. Yeah, I

1319
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 2: mean it's one thing, okay at home playing a bead.

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Speaker 2: Then you go on the road and win a game

1321
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 2: with a team that knows this player, like all the

1322
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 2: defensive players, who do you think they had been seeing

1323
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 2: for three years as a scout team quarterback And that

1324
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: thing was of all the games to day and that

1325
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: thing truly was not close. It was over fast. And

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01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 2: I think Lafloor, I don't want to just throw out

1327
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Speaker 2: the elite status. You gotta win in the playoffs. Yeah

1328
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: they've he did last year though, and easily gonna beat

1329
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: the Night Like I think Lafloor's easily one of the

1330
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 2: best young coach. I mean the way McVeigh, Kyle, Kevin O'Connell,

1331
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: we got to include Lafleur and we got to kick

1332
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 2: Mike out for right now he hasn't won an important

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01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 2: game ever.

1334
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the air thing is we know this

1335
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: in college. John it's recruiting and development. Saban did both,

1336
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: Urban meyerd both right. There are not a lot of

1337
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: guys in this.

1338
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 2: League that I mean.

1339
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell is developing a really talented guy who all

1340
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: of us always had a feeling. I think Darnald can

1341
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: actually play if he didn't have a dysfunctional team. Nobody

1342
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: thought Malik Willis could play. Mean Jordan Low, one of

1343
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: my most trusted general managers, was like, I wouldn't draft

1344
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: Jordan Love. He's like, there's just you know, and this

1345
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: is somebody with a ring. I'm watching Malik Willis in

1346
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: this transformation. This guy is one of the best developers

1347
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: of talent. By the way, That's why this Green Bay

1348
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: story is so much fun because the whole team's twenty

1349
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 1: four years old.

1350
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 2: On offense, well, how did Andy Reid become a legend

1351
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 2: before he ever won a Super Bowl? Because he could

1352
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 2: coach that position and no matter when McNabb would get hurt,

1353
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 2: he could play with anybody and they would still make

1354
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: the playoffs. He could take a washed up Jeff Garcia,

1355
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 2: he could take a Jay Feely, he could take Mike

1356
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: Vick from prison. I mean, he could do anything. When

1357
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: you can coach that position. It's my conversation with Brian Flores.

1358
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 2: If he was an offensive coach right now, we'd be

1359
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 2: talking about him like one of the best offensive coordinators

1360
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 2: we've ever seen. But he coaches defense. But even that

1361
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 2: his defense has been so good, You're like, just like,

1362
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 2: can he deal with the quarterback? Like he doesn't even

1363
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: seem to like those humans, right, so he doesn't even

1364
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 2: if I'm an owner, how does my head coach handle

1365
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 2: that guy? Say what you want about Tomlin, Like he

1366
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 2: can just massage that position. He's not coaching them on

1367
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 2: their fundamentals on a daily basis, but he can handle

1368
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 2: that situation is weird and he's handled it seamlessly because

1369
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 2: that's Mike Tomlin's go to strength. Lafour clearly he's pretty

1370
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: level headed guy. But can coach that position? Took Jordan Love,

1371
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 2: Like you said that your GM wasn't alone. A lot

1372
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: of people wouldn't.

1373
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: Drafted them, by the way, John the first round. Jordan

1374
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: Love the first year he started was awful. His first

1375
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: five weeks he was the best quarterback in the league

1376
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: by week fourteen.

1377
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 2: The other thing it does is it allows you to

1378
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,560
Speaker 2: do something like they just did. They traded nothing for

1379
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 2: a backup quarterback who makes no money, and you can

1380
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: win games when you're fifty million dollars quarterback. Why rush

1381
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 2: Jordan Love back this week? I don't know who they're playing,

1382
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. You can take another You're not in

1383
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 2: a rush. What happens when you get in positions when

1384
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 2: your backup quarterbacks the troit You kind of force that

1385
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 2: guy and as a snowball effect, he reinjures his knee.

1386
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 2: If I am given Jordan Love zero rush, Malik Willis

1387
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 2: for sure is getting another start. If Jordan Love says

1388
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 2: I'm not ninety nine percent, what the hell's the rush?

1389
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you just just play like this. It actually

1390
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 2: gives your team a different pitch, forces other guys. Let

1391
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 2: this guy come back fully healthy. If they're able to

1392
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, which they sure look like one now,

1393
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 2: and have Jordan Love miss a month, what an incredible accomplishment.

1394
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, that is awesome. Yeah, it is.

1395
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: The no ownership doesn't hurt him because Mark Murphy keeps

1396
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: getting the offensive position in the quarterback right. Shit, they've

1397
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: got they got Farv right, they got Rogers right, they

1398
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: got Jordan Love right. And Malik Willis looks like the

1399
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: steel the in league steal of any acquisition. I mean,

1400
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: it's the most important position. They give up nothing for him.

1401
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: It is one of the great heists. If this kid

1402
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 1: goes on a three game streak, it's one of the heists.

1403
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 2: Of the season. Yeah, definitely, without question.

1404
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: John Middlecock, can I say.

1405
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 2: One thing before you get out of here, because you

1406
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 2: were on this and it's been so evident yesterday, I

1407
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,799
Speaker 2: love the Pac twelve. It obviously died and his conference

1408
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: realignment felt weird. But watching these matchups all over the country.

1409
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Michigan USC would be awesome no matter what.

1410
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:47,919
Speaker 2: But Oklahoma hosting Tennessee, even Utah playing Oklahoma State this conference,

1411
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: Colorado playing Baylor last night. Great realignment from It's not

1412
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 2: quite the NFL because the talent is not the same

1413
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 2: when you're nineteen twenty years old. Not every gain as

1414
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 2: a pro College football is better off in terms of

1415
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: the matchups on a weekly basis with this conference real.

1416
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: Lined, John, I always fell I've been a college football fan.

1417
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: You know, I'm an old guy for a long time.

1418
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: My biggest knock on it was the lack of great games.

1419
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: There's three or four weekends a year in college football

1420
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: and you look up and you're like, god, I hope

1421
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: USC Michigan terms out to be a good game. There's

1422
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: nothing on this damn schedule. It's like Tennessee Oklahoma, you know,

1423
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 1: and then you'll get surprise games like Colorado Baytor became great,

1424
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: but nobody was sitting around waiting for Illinois. Nebraska became

1425
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 1: great on Friday ONFS one or Fox. So, I mean,

1426
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,839
Speaker 1: stuff becomes great. But they always had a big game problem.

1427
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: Well now I even watched you know, like Washington Northwestern.

1428
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: It's like I've never seen them play. Just let me

1429
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: go watch them play, you know.

1430
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 2: So it's like to me, Stanford Syracuse I thought was

1431
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:52,879
Speaker 2: kind of entertaining.

1432
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so listen. I just I'm one of

1433
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: those guys that there's a lot of things I love about.

1434
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm not anti tradition. There's a lot of old Stuff'm

1435
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: peanut butter and jelly is my favorite snack. Like I

1436
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: eat like a you know, like I'm not a real

1437
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: experimental guy on some things in my life. But in sports,

1438
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: we too often fall for stuff that's just not that interesting.

1439
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: Like I think baseball should go down to one hundred

1440
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: and twenty games, start the playoffs August fifth and this

1441
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: past weekend, and we'd watch the games. Like, I don't

1442
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: think anybody says Stamp, you know his historians that love

1443
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two games. Most of us just

1444
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 1: can't get through that many games. Its double the NBA season.

1445
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: So I just think we fall in love with the

1446
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: history and the romance. But I always say this. ESPN

1447
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:39,719
Speaker 1: created a channel called ESPN Classic. Nobody freaking watched. Nobody watched.

1448
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,759
Speaker 1: It's like one of those things that we talk about,

1449
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 1: something more than his reality. Like I like the Manning Cast,

1450
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 1: but it has you know, let's say a million viewers.

1451
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: Joe Buck and Aateman have eighteen. But if you went

1452
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: to Twitter, you'd think everybody was watching the Manning cast

1453
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: and nobody was watching the game. Now that's the inverse

1454
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: of what's true. Nobody cared about cal Organ State. I'm

1455
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: watching Oklahoma State Utah.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, it just looks new. Yeah, it does, it's fun,

1457
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Speaker 2: it is it worked, Yeah, I mean it worked.

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01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff podcast is three and out.

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Speaker 2: Great job, buddy, see you Colin.

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