1 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: This is cutting the Distance. This podcast is presented by 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: Yetti Built for the While. You've hunted hard and waited 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: all season for this one opportunity. Here's your chance. A 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: buck is now walking down a trail towards you. He's 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: within bone range as you come to full draw. Or 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: maybe you're set up across a canyon with your cross 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: hairs on a bowl elk that's starting to walk away 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: and then stops. Everything's right, You just need to release 13 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: the arrow or pull the trigger. But there's one important thing. 14 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: Where do you aim? This week on the podcast, I 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: want to cover advanced shot placement. I want to talk 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: about the major mistakes that I see with shot placement 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: and how to pick an aim point for a lethal 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: shot every time. As hunters, making a clean, ethical kill 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: is one of the most important skills to have and 20 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: to know, so I want to cover the basics of 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: anatomy and animals body position and angle. When you're taking 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: a shot, and then ways to read an animal's body 23 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: language to make sure that you're taking a shot at 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: the right time. But first, I want to tell you 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: of one of my favorite bow hunts for fallow dear 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: down in New Zealand. There's really just something I love 27 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,279 Speaker 1: about chasing fallow deer, especially during the rut. New Zealand 28 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: has some great opportunities for fallo dear, and I'm really 29 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: fortunate that I have permission to hunt a really good 30 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: piece of property that reminds me a lot of where 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: I hunt in northern Nevada or central Idaho. It's kind 32 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: of canyon country, lots of rocks, big open lots of glassing, 33 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: and it's just an incredible spot for spot and stock 34 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: fallow deer. On this particular hunt, I was hunting with 35 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: a good friend of mine, Shane Dorian. Now Shane's pretty 36 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: much a legend. I think it'd be fair to call 37 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: him a legend in the big wave surfing world. But 38 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: what you might not know about Shane is he's also 39 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: an incredible bow hunter and he loves bow hunting. So 40 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: it was awesome to get the opportunity to hunt with him, 41 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to take him to this place 42 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: to hunt fallow deer because one, it's just an incredible hunt, 43 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: and too you get some awesome stocks. It's just a 44 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: really good time and there's some really great bucks there. 45 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: So the first day we went out, we were walking 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: in this ridge where i'd actually seen some pretty good 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: deer the year prior, figured we'd start there. Is during 48 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: the fallow deer rush, fallow deer croak, they make like 49 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: a I'll do it with my voice. It's more of 50 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: like a frog pig, so down there and that's croaking, 51 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: and then they croak on their pads. So they clear 52 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: out this area and it's like a rut pad and 53 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: they stand there and they'll croak in the pads to track. 54 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: The females assert their dominance, kind of like elk bugling, 55 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: but they make this croak noise, very vocal animals. So 56 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: we're sitting up on the ridge first thing in the 57 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: morning and I hear some down in the canyon and 58 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: it's just echoing because we're on this point and there's 59 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: three or four finger canyons that come around. Now we 60 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: can't see down in the bottom of these canyons, but 61 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 1: I can tell this this one just sounds he's going 62 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: off pretty good. So I worked down the draw get 63 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: to a point where we're trying to look up into 64 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: this these draws, and I end up seeing this buck 65 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: and it was a pretty good buck. He had everything 66 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: you look for, big palms, good fronts, he was just 67 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: a solid deer. We thought, okay, I think we can 68 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: make a play on this buck. So he's got a 69 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: group of of does, and in this country it's so 70 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: open the dear ceu and they just they start running 71 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: from sometimes a mile two miles away, so you have 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: to make really long stalks around stuff to get into position. 73 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: The other thing that's working against you is there's just 74 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: a lot of deer, so you spook one deer and 75 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: they just start running for miles. So these ones happen 76 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: to be below the good ledge, so I thought, let's 77 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: get in there. Maybe hopefully they'll stay in There's it 78 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: looked like that buck was croaking on this path that 79 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: he maybe he'll stay there a little bit longer. And 80 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: he's got those does down below the cliffs, so if 81 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: we get up above him, the wind was good, might 82 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: be able to get a shot. We end up working 83 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: in crawling up the face of this pretty steep cliff 84 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: working down to this ledge, and we don't see the deer, 85 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: but I can still hear him down there croaking. Well, 86 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: sure enough, we look down and these fallow does start 87 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: funneling below our feet, like right below us, underneath us, 88 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: and now here comes the buck. We can see him, 89 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: just his antler tips before we can see his body. 90 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: Shane draws back and the angle is so steep. I mean, 91 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: he's literally got the buck right below him, and he's 92 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: pretty much shooting straight down. It's like one of the 93 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: most steepest angled shots I've ever seen taken. It was 94 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. So he shoots the buck. Worked out great. 95 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: We end up getting this buck. It's it's a really 96 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: good deer and it was just an awesome hunt. So 97 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: now it's my turn to hunt. Because I've shot deer there, 98 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure he got a good buck first, 99 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: so I pick up my bow and the next day 100 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: we go out. I'd spotted the buck the day before, 101 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: so we kind of had seen a couple other deer 102 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: that looked pretty good while we're packing that buck out, 103 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 1: So we kind of went back to the same area 104 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: I was glassing one way Shane was glassing another It's 105 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: about mid morning. At this point. We've seen a few goats, 106 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: wild feral goats, and some smaller bucks, but nothing I 107 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: really wanted. And then we come around this rock point. 108 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: Shane looks up and he spots this deer bedded in 109 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: the canyon below us. So I'm like, get down, take 110 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: a look, like that's that's a nice buck. He didn't 111 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: have the didn't have the big palms like his did, 112 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: but it was just an old mature buck, like heavy 113 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: and probably regressing. They get really heavy, their their paddles 114 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: get really wide and one side kind of started to 115 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: look uneven from the other. It was just an old 116 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: mature buck, and I thought, yeah, that's I would take 117 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: that buck for sure. And the cool thing about it 118 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: was he was bedded in a spot by himself, and 119 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: it looked like a pretty good approach. The trouble was 120 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: going to be that I would have to shoot cross canyon, 121 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: so if I made any mistakes, he might be able 122 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: to see me drawing and shooting. But there was enough 123 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: cliffs and contour that I think I could get a 124 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: shot at him, and that's the only way for the 125 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: wind as well, So I waited. I watched the buck 126 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: fell asleep, so I was like, perfect, this is my 127 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: time to make a move. I make my move in 128 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: and get set up. Unfortunately, I would have taken a 129 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: shot where he was laying but he just was at 130 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: a wrong at the wrong angle. I kept trying to 131 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: look with my binoculars and think about how I could 132 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: get maybe a quartering away shot, but the way he 133 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: was laying down, his shoulder blade was right over his 134 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: vitals and it is more of a quartering two shots. 135 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: So I just thought, okay, I'm just gonna sit here, 136 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: be patient. Wait. He has no clue I'm here. I've 137 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: got a good, bigger, bolder kind of covering my outline. 138 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: But I can see him, so if he gets up, 139 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: I'll be able to make a move, and he shouldn't 140 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: be able to see me. So I arranged the deer 141 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: and think okay. But I'm looking at the deer and 142 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: I think, man, this deer is really close. So I 143 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: take my range finder out. I've got plenty of time 144 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: and I range it. It's like fifty yards, like shoot 145 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: it's a little It's about as far as I would 146 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: want to shoot, you know. I want to make sure 147 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: everything's right for this, but I'm just thinking to myself, God, 148 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: this looks really really close. Maybe it's just because it's 149 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: a big body buck in the open. He just looks big, 150 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: so I don't think anything of it. And I'm sitting 151 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,679 Speaker 1: there waiting for him to stand up. Well, he finally 152 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: stands up. I come to full draw. He's like looking around, 153 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: feeding takes maybe one step. I wait for the perfect shot, 154 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: set all my fifth year pin where it should go. 155 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: Release the arrow. The hero sails over his back a 156 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: ways and sticks into the ground above him. He like 157 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: ducks down and looks and starts staring at the arrow. 158 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: I thought, oh my gosh, and it's it's fairly The 159 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: wind was in my face, so I don't think that 160 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 1: he heard my shot go off. But all of a sudden, 161 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: there's this arrow in the dirt above him. I'm like, 162 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: how did I miss by that much over his back? 163 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: So I was like, man, it just looks closer. I 164 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: maybe something was wrong, Maybe I misranged him. I don't know, Like, 165 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: how often do you get two shots at the same deer. 166 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: I mean, this should be a story where I just 167 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: flat out missed in this buck got away, And yet 168 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: I think because it went over his back and stuck 169 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: in the dirt. It didn't hit any rocks or anything. 170 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: He just was kind of confused and now looking at 171 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: this arrow, he maybe jumped a few jumps, but wasn't 172 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: much further. And I could actually see the deer in 173 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: the arrow at full draw, so I put my fifty 174 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: yard pin on him again because this so I thought 175 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: the range was And then I just saw the arrow 176 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: in the dirt over there and moved my bow at 177 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 1: the same level he was. It was right on my 178 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: thirty yard pin. So I thought, God that just I 179 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: felt like the shot was good. Something was wrong. He 180 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: looks close. I'm just gonna shoot for what that Because 181 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: my thought was all right, if that's where the arrow hit, 182 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: and I used my fifty yard pin, wherever that arrow 183 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: hit should be the distance that it was if my 184 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: first shot was good. So I readjusted shot him for 185 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: thirty I put it right in the crease what I 186 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: like to call the perfect triangle, right in the shoulder, 187 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: but not in the blade of the shoulder. And I'll 188 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: talk about that later, but I said all the thirty 189 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: yard pin released the arrow perfect pass through buck runs 190 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: maybe ten twenty yards and just tips over. So what 191 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: it ended up happening was somehow my range finder was broken. 192 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: I don't really know what was wrong with it, but 193 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: I tried ranging other things, and everything I ranged said 194 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: fifty yards, fifty yards, fifty yards. I should have trusted 195 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: my instinct on saying, oh, he's actually thirty yards, but 196 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: he looked close, and I just figured about I had 197 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: time to range him, might as well range him. Turned 198 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: out he was only thirty yards. But it was pretty 199 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: awesome to walk up on that buck and know that 200 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: I got one a very rare secon and chance, and 201 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: two was able to adjust and make a perfect shot 202 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: and it all worked out. But I just we just 203 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: had to laugh afterwards because I was like, what is 204 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: going on here? I thought I'd missed the buck, Then 205 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: he's staring at the arrow. Then I get another shot, 206 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: and it was a pretty awesome, pretty awesome trip, pretty 207 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: awesome experience. Shane came down, we got some photos, cut 208 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: him up, pushing him up, and then packed him out. 209 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: I can't really talk about shot placement without covering the 210 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: four things that I think are the most important when 211 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: it comes to shooting an animal that includes anatomy body position, 212 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: body angle, and reading the animal. So I'm talking about that. 213 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the body position of the animal, the 214 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: body angle of the animal, and then just understanding what 215 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: movements it might make, how it's acting, how it might 216 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: react to your arrow, to your shot, whether it's moving, 217 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: whether it's stopped, all that kind of stuff. So I 218 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: to cover that, but I first want to talk about 219 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: a few of the mistakes I've seen through guiding and 220 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: what is probably the most common mistake of new hunters 221 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: and even guys that have been doing it for a while, 222 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: you know, guiding in New Zealand, guiding in Montana, and 223 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: just hunting a lot of other places. I've tend to 224 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: find that most people shoot animals too far back. I 225 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: think it comes down to a couple of things. First off, 226 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: white tail actually have larger lungs than a lot of 227 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: other animals. You could shoot a white tail mid body 228 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: and still clip lung. But when you start hunting other 229 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: species or other animals, that's not always the case. It 230 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: tends to be that everybody has the idea of you're 231 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: supposed to aim behind the shoulder. Now, while that is 232 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: true in many cases, in many instances, it's not always 233 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: true saying aim behind the shoulder in many scenarios maybe 234 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: too far back, or it's just not the right part 235 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: of the shoulder. I think people get confus used on 236 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: what the shoulder actually is. So I tend to find 237 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: a lot of animals get shot in the liver or 238 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: even further back accidentally, or that's just where they aimed 239 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: and thought it was going to be a good shot. 240 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: Very few when I'm guiding our shot perfectly, and I 241 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: think it's because people have the misconception of where to aim, 242 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: and where to aim is not always the same. So 243 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 1: if it's quartering towards you quartering away, we're going to 244 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: talk about all that where your aim points should be. 245 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: I think the first thing to talk about in understanding 246 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: shot placement is going to be the anatomy. So if 247 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: you're looking at, say the anatomy of a caribou versus 248 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: a American bison versus a bear, versus a havilina versus 249 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: a white tail versus an antelope, they're all very similar, 250 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: but they're all very different in some ways as well. 251 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: Things like wild pigs have a larger shoulder and vitals 252 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: tucked further up in their bodies. Whereas a white tail 253 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: has their lungs further extending further back. I think if 254 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: we're just gonna give you a rundown of basic anatomy, 255 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: it's something that's gonna be hard to talk about for 256 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: every species. So there's one thing that I suggest is, 257 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: whatever you're hunting, study some anatomy diagrams. There's plenty of 258 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: them online. You should really understand where the vitals are 259 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: in every animal you're hunting. But I also want to 260 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: talk about where's the perfect place to take a shot. Now, 261 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: you have to consider a few things when you're talking 262 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: about the perfect shot placement. One, you want the most 263 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: room for error, so you want a large center mass 264 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: where if you make a mistake up, down, left, right 265 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: by a small margin, you're still going to make a 266 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: perfect shot. The other thing is knowing how and when 267 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: to shoot so that when you do aim at that 268 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: perfect spot, you're gonna hit it and the animal won't 269 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: react or something won't be in the way. Because you 270 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: can name it one spot, and depending on the position 271 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 1: of the leg or the way the animals facing, that 272 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: might not be the right spot. So let's talk a 273 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: little bit about the things that are true in almost 274 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: all the species that we hunt, as far as anatomy 275 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,119 Speaker 1: goes and involves with I'm gonna break down the philosophy 276 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: of aim behind the shoulder, and then I'm gonna tell 277 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: you where to aim and base that off anatomy. So 278 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: when you think about a shoulder, when you're looking at 279 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: a deer and elk, we'll just go with the deer. 280 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: The shoulder is obviously in the front leg. But what 281 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't realize is the way the 282 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: bone structure runs in the shoulder. So you unjealous, you 283 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: have the scapula, which would be like our shoulder blade. 284 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: Their shoulder blade is attached to the humorous it like 285 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: a knuckle joint, but it's almost at a forty five angle. 286 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: So if you if you put your arms straight up 287 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: and out and then you moved your hand at a 288 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: forty five degree angle, that is the shape of what 289 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: I would consider the shoulder. So there's this area I 290 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: like to call it there. It's like a triangle area, 291 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: and if you look at some anatomy diagrams you'll you'll 292 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: really start to understand this better. But that that triangle 293 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: air you out within the shoulder right behind that houses 294 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: there's ribs, but then there's the heart and lungs. Now, 295 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: I tend to find that the best place meant for 296 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: a shot is in that triangle. So you aren't hitting 297 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: any bone in the scapula in the humorous you're going 298 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: right through. And so in order to even hit the heart, 299 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: you have to hit the lungs as well, because it's 300 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: set up inside the lungs. So you hit the heart lungs. 301 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: If you're a little high, you hit the lungs. If 302 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: you're a little low, you hit more heart. But that 303 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: is the most effective shot placement to take an animal. Now, 304 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: there's gonna be people, so you gotta just wait because 305 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: there's probably people chomping at bit saying no, that's bad 306 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: because if you're high, you'll hit the scapula. That's a 307 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: bad shot. You should aim further back. Yes, and no, 308 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that to give you the idea of 309 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: the anatomy. I prefer to shoot things more in the shoulder. 310 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: But I'm also very careful where I aim, and I 311 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: understand the anatomy completely. Yes, if you make a mistake 312 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: a little far forward, a little far back, you might 313 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: make a bad shot. Now that's an area in the shoulder. 314 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: So if you're looking at the animal, it looks like 315 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: it's all part of the shoulder. Then you've got the 316 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: crease back behind, and that crease would be the back 317 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: of the shoulder that you see where the muscle is, 318 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: and that crease is still within the lungs and still 319 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: a great spot to shoot. I think a lot of 320 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: people when they say behind the shoulder, talking about that 321 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: crease in the shoulder, and for most animals, if you 322 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: aim there, that's great. Now where I think a lot 323 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: of people make the mistake is they say behind the shoulder, 324 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: and they put it two or three inches behind that crease, 325 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: and now they're aiming at the liver. Especially depending on 326 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: the angle of the animal, they're already putting it in 327 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: a spot where it might be too far back. Me personally, 328 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: I prefer to aim a little bit tighter into the shoulder. 329 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: And we'll kind of talk about that here in a 330 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: little bit. So once you understand the anatomy, the most 331 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: important thing before taking any shot, to take an ethical 332 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: shot is going to be first the body position of 333 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: the animal. Now some of this might sound basic, but 334 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into some more advanced stuff. In a 335 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: little bit. So you just track with me. Here's the 336 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: basic positions that an animal could be in. So broadside, 337 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: that's gonna just be completely side onto you. It's completely 338 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: perpendicular to your view, to your point of impact, whether 339 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: it's your air, whatever your arrow is, where you're shooting 340 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: that animal standing completely perpendicular to you. Now you have 341 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: quartering away. That's where it's front is a little bit 342 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: more at an angle away from you, and its rear 343 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: end is towards you. Then you have quartering to you. 344 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: That's where it's front shoulders are towards you, it's rear 345 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: ends more away from you. Then you have frontal shot 346 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: facing you and then facing away from you. So I'll 347 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: just be like, all you've got is this back end. 348 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: So out of that quartering too, broadside, quartering away facing you, 349 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: facing away. The best shot, in my opinion, is always 350 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: quartering away or slightly quartered away and broadside. Now, I 351 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: think a shot that's very difficult to make ethically, but 352 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: if you understand it properly you can still make a 353 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: great shot is quartering to you. Because the trouble is 354 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: is the shoulder, the front of the shoulder. There's a 355 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: point in the shoulder. I didn't talk about where the 356 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: scapula meets the humorous and I call it the knuckle. 357 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: It's the lower part, it's the furthest forward point of 358 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: the shoulder bone structure. If you hit that, most likely 359 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: you won't get into the vitals. If your bow huntling, 360 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: your arrow will stop there. If your rifle hunting, you'll 361 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: probably blow the shoulder up, but it won't kill the 362 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: animals you have. Let's take a follow up shot. It's 363 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: not a good shot. It's not a good place to hit. 364 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: And when an animal's quartering to you, that knuckle is 365 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: really protecting the vitals. And then you've got the scapula 366 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: as well, so you've got a lot of things working 367 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: against you. Also, if you then go okay, I'll aim 368 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: behind the shoulder at that quartering to you. Angle putting 369 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: an arrow or a bullet behind the shoulder is now 370 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: having your trajectory going through non vital areas or areas 371 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: that aren't as quick and clean ling like the lungs 372 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: and heart. You might hit in that scenario the liver 373 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: or intestines. So that's not a great position. Now, a 374 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: lot of guys ask about body position. Elk facing you. 375 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: That can be a good shot if you know what 376 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: you're doing, but also there's a lot of room for error, 377 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: and then facing away never a good shot. Yes, there 378 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: are guys that have intentionally shot them. They call it 379 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: Texas heart shot. The trouble with that is it's not 380 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: a very clean kill. There's a lot of margin for air, 381 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: and you're gonna kind of taint the meat because you're 382 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: hitting the intestines. So the two shots that you want 383 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: to look for quartering away broadside. So now we all 384 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: also have to talk about the body angle. Where is 385 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: that front shoulder on the animal? Is their leg back? 386 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: Is there leg forward? Is he quartering two with his 387 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: leg forward? Is he quartering too with his leg back? 388 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: Is the animal quartering away with his onside leg back? 389 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: Maybe it's even bedded. What's its body position there? What's 390 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: that shoulder blade doing, what's that scapula doing? Where is 391 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: it position in relationship to where your point of aim 392 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: should be. So if it's legs, the best shot is 393 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: always when it's on site legs forward, because that generally 394 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: pulls the opens up the vitals to the shooter. So 395 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: that way your first point of impact, especially with a bow, 396 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: is in the vitals without obstruction from bone, from possibly 397 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: hitting something you don't want to hit, and it stretches 398 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: out that key area of lungs, center of the lungs 399 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: where you should be aiming for. So if you were 400 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: to ask me, where is the best place to aim, 401 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: I always think of it like this. What I wanna 402 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: do is I want to send a BOWLO and arrow 403 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: whatever through the center of the lungs. If you hit 404 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: through both lungs, that animal will expire extremely quick. Also, 405 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: if you go through the lungs and the heart, that's 406 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: also a great option. But you want the least amount 407 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: of room for error. So what I do is I 408 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: kind of think of wherever I'm aiming. I want the 409 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: arrow to exit through the triangle that I talked about earlier, 410 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: in between below the scapula, above the humorous behind that 411 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: point somewhere in that triangle of the opposite shoulder. So 412 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm always aiming for the opposite shoulders. So if it's 413 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: perfectly broadside, I'll aim just inside the crease. I follow 414 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: the onside leg up and I put it right in 415 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: that triangle there. Because I know that I've practiced with 416 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: my weapon and I'm going to make that shot effectively, 417 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: that's where I aim. Now, if you're maybe a little 418 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: bit newer and you feel a little uncomfortable with that, 419 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: then I would go just right back at the back 420 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: widest point of that triangle and aim right there, so 421 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: like right in the crease, dead center center mass of 422 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 1: the animal there, because then you have margin of air 423 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: up and down, a little bit left and right. But 424 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm aiming for that arrow or bow bullet or whatever 425 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: to exit through the center of that opposite shoulder. So 426 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: if you think about it, now, let's imagine how this works. 427 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: Is if you have a dear turn quartering away, what 428 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: I do is I find the opposite leg, I follow 429 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: up the opposite leg, and then where that intersects with 430 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: the center of the body, that's where I shoot, because 431 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: that's going to be the point that the straight path 432 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: travels through. So I'm always aiming for the opposite side 433 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: of the shoulder. Now, if you're shooting down from say 434 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: a tree stand, it's a little bit different, but you're 435 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 1: also going to think, okay, I'm aiming for the center 436 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: or slightly lower shooting through. So you always visualize whatever 437 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: you're shooting to go completely through and you want to 438 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: know where it's going to go completely through the center 439 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: of both lungs. So I'm still aiming for that center point, 440 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: but i'd be aiming higher because I'm shooting down to 441 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: get through the center point of the opposite side shoulder. 442 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: Now where it gets a little confusing, is okay, Well, 443 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: what if it's quartering to A lot of people think, well, 444 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: the shoulders they're on a quartering two shot, I do 445 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: the same thing. I'm aiming for the center of the 446 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: opposite shoulder, so I would track up from the one 447 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: leg from the opposite leg, depending on how their legs are, 448 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: I guess, But where is that arrow gonna exit? How 449 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: is it gonna exit through the other side shoulder? And 450 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: most of the time on a quartering two shot, I'm 451 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: shooting inside the shoulder, so I'm shooting on the inside 452 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: of the shoulder blade, which would be like more towards 453 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: the neck, so it exits through the other side because 454 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: I know that there's bone another thing in the way 455 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: when it's quartering two. But like I said, whatever the 456 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: shot angle is, I'm aiming for the opposite side of 457 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: the shoulder. And I can't say that enough. But once 458 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: you kind of start to think in that realm, you're 459 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: gonna have more effective shots and you're gonna know where 460 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: to place your cross airs. I always tell people as well, 461 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: if it's broad side, start by following the leg up 462 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: and then the center of that. You can go back 463 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: an inch or two. But if you do that and 464 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: you realize that looking through the scope now that cross 465 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 1: has lined up with further back and not going out 466 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: through the shoulder, then you're probably gonna have to adjust. 467 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: So quartering away shots are the best shots. You really 468 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: can't go wrong with quartering away because you're shooting toward everything. 469 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: Everything's open up, you don't have the ribs. That's why 470 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: a slight quartering away shot, in my opinion, is the 471 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: best shot. Then followed by broadside, especially if the front 472 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: legs forward really opens up the vitals to you, gives 473 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: you a good, clean, ethical shot. Now, one thing that 474 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: you have to consider is the movement of the animal 475 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: and understanding really just being able to read the animal. 476 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: So a few things that I always look for, and 477 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: by looking for these things really calms me down in 478 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: the moment and lets me pay attention to what's going on. 479 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: So the first thing about reading an animal is are 480 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: they alert to your position? Are they alert to you 481 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: and understanding? What are they doing? So? Is the animal moving? 482 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: Are they stopped? Are they stopped and alert? Are they feeding? 483 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: What are they doing? Understand? What's that dear doing and 484 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: what's he gonna do next? Based on his body language, 485 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: based on his temperament, based on the scenario that you're in. 486 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: Because one thing you have to consider, especially with deer 487 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: that are more used to surviving and living in thicker cover, 488 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: is they use a lot of reaction based on sound 489 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: and quick movement and sight at close range, so they're 490 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: more likely to jump the string. Things like white tails 491 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: access dear. You know, I actually even find antelope do 492 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: jump the string quite a bit when hunt, taking it 493 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: a water hole, but not out in the open. And 494 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: what's jumping the string or whatever is if your bow 495 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: hunting right when you release the arrow, does the animal 496 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: jump and react? Now, if it's aware of your presence 497 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: and knows you're there, it's probably more likely to react. 498 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: That might include ducking or or moving down. So if 499 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: you aim at the right spot that animal moves, well, 500 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: now you had it at the center and you hit 501 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: high in an area that's not vital, not lethal, or 502 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: it jumps forward and you end up not hitting it 503 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: where you want. That's why understanding or reading the most 504 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: so important because it lets you anticipate where you may 505 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: have to aim based on certain species and other things. 506 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: So let's talk about walking first. Generally, I would say 507 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: you should only shoot at animals that are stopped, and 508 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of ways to stop an animal. I 509 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: mostly use a grunt or whistle, depending on what type 510 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: of species it is, and the reason you do that 511 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: is because it's better to have a stop shot now 512 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: a lot of time, when you make a grunt or whistle, 513 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: that immediately lets the animal know that there's something there. 514 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: They might look over at you. Hopefully you're already on 515 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: them when you stop them, and you can take a 516 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: shot before they really realize what's going on. So I 517 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: grunt and shoot almost simultaneously. A second it stops. Shoot. Now, 518 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to time that to where it's gonna hear 519 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: the sound as it's foots back and moving forward, so 520 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: it stops with its leg and looks over if I can. 521 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: It's especially important with rifle shots too, because an animal 522 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: might be moving across the hillside if you can stop it, 523 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna have a better shot. Now, there are times 524 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: on a walking animal where I will take a shot, 525 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: but I have practiced those moving shots, and I know 526 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: the right amount of lead for that, and in those instances, 527 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm generally aiming further forward in that triangle so that 528 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: if they do continue to move, that arrow will still 529 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: hit the vital area. One thing that I see a lot, 530 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: and probably another reason that I a lot of people 531 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: when they do make a bad shot, happens to be back, 532 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: is because they'll be shooting at a stopped animal. But 533 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: as they shoot, whether it's a boat or a rifle, 534 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: that animal will then begin to walk. So as they're shooting, 535 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: their brain doesn't really register that the animals about to move. 536 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: As they squeeze off they were a at one point, 537 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: and that animals already in the process of moving or 538 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: going to move, in which case, as they move forward, 539 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: that might make the shooters point of impact, depending on 540 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: how far it is an inch to four inches further back. 541 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: One thing that I always consider is if I'm watching 542 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: for someone else, it's a lot easier if you're the shooter. 543 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: You're focusing in on the animals, so it's not as 544 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: easy to watch their body positions and their movements. But 545 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: some things to look for is a lot of deer, 546 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: especially white tail meal there you'll see if they aren't 547 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: moving a lot, they're just kind of grazing, moving around. 548 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: They flick their tail a few times before they take 549 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: a step, so it's tail flick step, tail flick step. 550 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: Other animals their ears twitch or move, they move their 551 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: head before their body, so you'll notice Just watching for 552 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: those kind of movements and what the deer or elk 553 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: or other animals doing might lead you to believe whether 554 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: they're going to take a step or not. So if 555 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm spotting for someone that's about to take a shot, 556 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: say a rifle shot, if I see that tail flick, 557 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: I say, way, he's going to take a step. Then 558 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: as soon as he takes a step when he stops, 559 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: shoot You're better off shooting at the beginning of a stop, 560 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: then at the end of a stop and waiting for 561 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: a long time. So if the animal has no clue 562 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: that you're there, what I'm talking about is say you're 563 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: set up with a rifle and the deer's stopped. He's 564 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: not alert to your position. He's not focused on anything. 565 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: He's just kind of browsing, so his head's down, he's feeding. 566 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: Put the crossers there and wait, he might get a 567 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: tail flick. Okay, he takes one more step as he 568 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: steps and stops with that leg forward. Boom. That's when 569 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: I shoot, and I make it instantaneous on that stop, 570 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 1: so I know that I'm not going to catch him 571 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: in another step. Another thing too, if you're say rifle hunting, 572 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: having somebody make a noise to stop him, that deers alert. 573 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: But by that point they're stopped. They're looking in your direction, 574 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: especially if it's to yards out. Maybe they're walking. You've 575 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: stopped him. Now they're looking towards the shooter, but they're 576 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: stopped in a position where you can make a shot. 577 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: One thing you always have to remember is just really 578 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: analyzing the animal's body position. Are they truly broadside or 579 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: are they slightly quartering too? Are they slightly quartering away? 580 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: And then taking that knowledge of how their body position 581 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: is and focusing in on where you should shoot. Picking 582 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: the right spot to shoot really does make you more successful, 583 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: makes a track job easier. Is an ethical, clean keel. 584 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: That's what we strive for. I know, like with bow shooting. 585 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: I shoot a lot of three D targets and really 586 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: don't base where you should aim on a three D target. 587 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: A lot of the anatomy on those targets is pretty wrong. 588 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: A lot of the ten rings on three D film 589 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: targets is quite a bit further back, and maybe that 590 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: leads to guys shooting a little bit further back on 591 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: most species as well. You know, just remember, pay attention 592 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: and do a little bit of research. If you're hunting 593 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: a new species you're you're new to hunting, really study 594 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: the anatomy of the animals you're going after. Understand where 595 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: that shoulder blade is and where everything is in relation 596 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: to each other. Another thing you should think about is 597 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: after you get an animal down successfully, as you're skinning 598 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: it out, move the leg forward and back, feel where 599 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: the bones are and how that relates to the anatomy 600 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: and where you should be shoot. The more you can 601 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: study that, the better off you're gonna be. I I 602 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: really truly believe that the difference between the most successful hunters, 603 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: the guys that come back successful all the time, and 604 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: the guys that come back with, oh man, I made 605 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: a bad shot or I missed I didn't. I didn't 606 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: shoot him in the right place. We had to track 607 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: for a long time. We ended up getting him the differences, 608 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: paying attention to how the animals reacting, and really just 609 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: picking the right point, whether it's understanding, if it's quartering 610 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: to you, quartering away. All that is just key in 611 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: the follow up. So making a good shot is the 612 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: most important thing in my opinion, But the next portion 613 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: to that would be tracking and how you react and 614 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: what you do after you take a shot, and maybe 615 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: what you do after you make a not so good shot. 616 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: Things do happen. We try to do everything in our 617 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: power to make that perfect shot every time, but no 618 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: matter how good you are, there might be those times 619 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: where you made a bad shot. Something happened, something unexpected happened, 620 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: You didn't anticipate the right on a movement, and something 621 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: went wrong. So next week I want to talk about 622 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: the next step to this, which would be trailing and 623 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: reactions after a shot. Last week I did some questions 624 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: and answers. I really appreciate those coming back in. I've 625 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: got already quite a few this week, so we'll get 626 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: back to some of those questions here in a few episodes. 627 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: But We're gonna talk about this for now and then 628 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: anything else you guys would like to hear. As always, 629 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: feel free to shoot me the email Remy at the 630 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: meat Eater dot com or on social media at Remy 631 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: Warren mostly on Instagram. Everything else is just populated from Instagram, 632 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: so that's kind of the only one that I use. 633 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: This week's homework, everybody needs to go online for shot 634 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: placement and anatomy of animals. That's really what you want 635 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: to do is just study the anatomy of whatever you're 636 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: gonna be hunting, and even get a couple of different 637 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: species side by side and look how those compared to 638 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: each other. So your homework this week research some anatomy 639 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: so that way when you're in the field, you can 640 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: make sure you always make a perfect ethical shot. How 641 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: would I even end to this one? Shoots straight? I 642 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: guess alright, yeah, until next week shoots straight. Everyone