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Speaker 1: And welcome in. Lake Cake is live.

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Speaker 2: It is Sunday night, February sixth, Dear of Our Lord,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Your head coach now may not be

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Speaker 2: your head coach tomorrow. And that's why we are live,

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Speaker 2: so we don't have to worry about any of that

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Speaker 2: test breaking news. After we record, we are jam packed.

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Speaker 2: We are high at top downtown Nationville, Tennessee. I promise

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Speaker 2: you we are going to get you the very latest

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Speaker 2: with Brian Harson, the very latest out of Auburn. We're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about Michigan. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: where things go from here. Is that a rebuild? Is

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Speaker 2: it not a rebuild? There's a whole lot going on.

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Speaker 2: There are big moves being made in Miami. More on

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Speaker 2: that momentarily, a rare special guest joining us. All that,

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Speaker 2: plus I'm going to give you a little inside baseball,

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Speaker 2: a little behind the scenes. A lot of you have

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Speaker 2: asked about those Nick Saban and Jimbo Fisher interviews we

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Speaker 2: did on National Signing Day last week. You know what,

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Speaker 2: I am going to acquiesce to those requests, and so

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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Towards the end of the show.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you were following on the social channels at

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Speaker 2: late take Josh, Twitter, Instagram and everything in between. Look,

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Speaker 2: you know this is not a guest fueled show, but

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Speaker 2: every now and then we have someone reach out.

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Speaker 1: It's just too good to turn down.

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Speaker 2: And there was a young man, a young man, a

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Speaker 2: promising up and comer, dare I say, by the name

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Speaker 2: of Mario Christabal who reached out earlier today. They've made

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Speaker 2: some big moves, of course, the brand new head coach

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Speaker 2: at Miami. And so what I wanted to do to

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Speaker 2: start the show actually is I wanted to bring mcn

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Speaker 2: and I wanted to instead of me telling you what

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Speaker 2: I think about some of the moves they're making, I

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Speaker 2: without further ado, let's go ahead and let's bring Mario

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Speaker 2: christaball in to start the show.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: He is down in Miami. How many hours have you

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Speaker 2: worked today? By the way, what time did you wake

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Speaker 3: Well? I lost count.

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Speaker 4: I got down here. We've been going ever since. I

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Speaker 4: like Groundhog Day. You start up early and they just

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Speaker 4: kind of keep going and going and going, and from

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Speaker 4: what I undersand saying tomorrow is Monday, which is the

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot going on now for those of

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean immediately everyone can talk about it.

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Speaker 1: So here's what I'm going to do.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take a softball in my hand and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to toss it in such a way that

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Speaker 2: you can hit it wherever you want to. Mario Cristobal,

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Speaker 2: head coach of Miami, there is a lot of headlines

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Speaker 2: happening with your staff, and so can you tell us

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Speaker 2: just very very quickly what the hiring process has been like,

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Speaker 2: where are things right now, and what's the next week

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Speaker 2: or still going to look like with Miami football.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're swinging big, you know, we're going out, so

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Speaker 4: to speak, big game fishing. We feel that the players

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you saw a lot of news surrounding the guys,

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Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, these guys are phenomenal

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Speaker 4: human beings, exceptional, exceptional coaches and mentors, and they are

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Speaker 4: And there'll be a lot of news around this stuff

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Speaker 4: We're super excited to have them, but again, we're just

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Speaker 1: Is this fun to you?

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Speaker 2: Do you like coaching the game more or like I

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Speaker 2: used to love the game called sim City. It was

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Speaker 4: Well, I love this, you know, I truly believe that

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Speaker 3: It's, so to speak, a marriage, right.

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Speaker 4: You want to make sure that they complement each other

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Speaker 4: You've got to be surrounded by great, great people that

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Speaker 4: And we're loading up on those kind of guys. These

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Speaker 2: So I don't know how much time you spend on

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Speaker 2: the Internet has told me that you want to run

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't listen to the internet much as it

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Speaker 4: now we're we're a balanced attack. You know, Coach blank

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Speaker 3: We were over there and that has always.

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Speaker 4: Been the vision, you know, taken those steps to become

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Speaker 3: And with a great quarterback.

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Speaker 4: We plan to be balanced in an ideal world like

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Speaker 2: You spend a fair amount of time at Oregon. You

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Speaker 2: I'm really interested this day and age, even when it's

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Speaker 2: And if is there any like are there critical factors

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Speaker 2: that you look to adjust in your own approach philosophically,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think one thing that continues to stand really

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Speaker 3: It's always going to be about that.

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Speaker 3: But while you're investing in people.

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Speaker 4: We're really big on making sure that we're not just

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Speaker 4: And by that I mean the players, your staff, whatever

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Speaker 2: One time you and I spoke, it was right at

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Speaker 2: which I was very appreciative of. During that hour, you

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Speaker 2: But I'm really curious, like, how specifically does that apply

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's always some type of carryover, but there's

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Speaker 3: You know, you've got to see those things.

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Speaker 4: Again and again and again and practice and so when

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Speaker 4: a plan for them. I mean our responsibility is massive.

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Speaker 4: Children, right, You want to make sure those principles and

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Speaker 4: People ask hey, how come you guys are having success recruiting.

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Speaker 4: And it just so happens that this time, this thing

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Speaker 3: Anything else that you do. And just again, man, when

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if that's that answers the question,

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Speaker 3: I view it.

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Speaker 2: I am looking right now at new head coaches, some

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Speaker 1: You're up on a greaseport and you're just think.

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Speaker 2: At football, football, football, And that is a small fraction

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you just you know, you've got to be willing

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Speaker 3: To make it go in a certain direction, they all

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Speaker 4: By that is like your culture and your philosophy that

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Speaker 4: How you do anything is how you do everything, and

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of people in the organization that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that requires every once of energy and every second

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Speaker 4: So it is it's a twenty four to seven job,

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Speaker 4: and it should be. And anyone that complains about that,

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Speaker 1: Miami head coach Morio christ Paul A couple more minutes

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Speaker 4: I am.

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Speaker 2: The interview process fascinates me, and you get to do

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Speaker 1: Now you're right in the process of doing it.

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Speaker 2: So you're filling out a staff, and this is a

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: And the process that we do now are identical to

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Speaker 4: you have to give someone the ability to whatever they're

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Speaker 4: Talk to us like we're freshmen in that room for

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Speaker 3: And then after that the question and the questions are

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Speaker 4: Your psis keeps I'm bad with technology, which you guys

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Speaker 4: asking questions on what you coached. Well, coach, you've said

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Speaker 4: this is what we're trying to do, so assessing your film,

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Speaker 3: To coach it?

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Speaker 4: You're going to jump into a film evaluation session and

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Speaker 4: I mean I'll stop because that I'll wear you out

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Speaker 4: you know, you where from six seven, eight hours sometimes

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Speaker 3: Go from there.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what I want to ask. So one more

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Speaker 2: I could talk for nine hours about this. So how

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Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't happen often because if they if

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Speaker 3: He's like, well, what are you guys? Lions? What are

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Speaker 3: they gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's good? Here's what's great.

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Speaker 2: So I've heard the rumor before, Like I've heard that

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Speaker 1: You've gotten in there. It's like drinking from a fire hose.

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Speaker 2: of business?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's taking place right now.

442
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Speaker 4: First order of business is again first and foremost, discipline, accountability,

443
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,520
Speaker 4: strength and conditioning. Our strength staff has been off in

444
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Speaker 4: the running and they've been doing a phenomenal job. They've

445
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Speaker 4: challenged our players and our players that have responded really,

446
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,879
Speaker 4: really well. And we have a very clear understanding that

447
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Speaker 4: we're going to do things a certain way and that

448
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Speaker 4: that's what it takes and if you're willing to not

449
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Speaker 4: do it a certain way, or you're willing to give

450
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Speaker 4: away an ACC championship and more so, we have that understanding.

451
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Speaker 4: We're off to a great start. But again, you know,

452
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Speaker 4: this is when your strength and conditioning program is underway,

453
00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 4: you're going against you know, your your own conditioning whistles

454
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 4: home lines right, It doesn't push back like football, but

455
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Speaker 4: it's a great first step in testing exactly where we

456
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Speaker 4: are from a physical and mental standpoint. As it relates

457
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Speaker 4: to conditioning and toughness, so really good start so far there.

458
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Speaker 4: We'll transition into you know, our skill development, which will

459
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Speaker 4: take place this week as well as the fourth quarter program.

460
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Speaker 4: We got time to installed, will install, and we go,

461
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Speaker 4: we go, and we go fast. So we're pretty much

462
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Speaker 4: on schedule minus a day or so, and we'll.

463
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Speaker 3: Make it up.

464
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Speaker 2: Miami head coach Mario Chris Bona. Look, I told you

465
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Speaker 2: we got this poverty coffee up here. It's coffee and

466
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Speaker 2: a can. You got the real stuff, the Cuban stuff

467
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Speaker 2: down there. So I have you on your word if

468
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Speaker 2: I send you the address, you're going to take care

469
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Speaker 2: of us, correct.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, I'm watching this and it's almost sacrilegious

471
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Speaker 4: to my ancestors to be talking about any other cafting

472
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Speaker 4: like that. So because of that, and because I do

473
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Speaker 4: I truly care about you, know your intake. I know

474
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Speaker 4: you've got your gallons of water and take care of

475
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Speaker 4: your body healthy, I'm going to send you the best

476
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Speaker 4: of the best to make sure you are properly caffeinated

477
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Speaker 4: to the highest level.

478
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Speaker 2: All right, let me toast you with this now crushed

479
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Speaker 2: up caffeine and a can.

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Speaker 1: Sir. We appreciate you joining us. Mario Christaball, Miami head coach.

481
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Speaker 1: We will.

482
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Speaker 2: I'll find any excuse I can to make it down

483
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Speaker 2: to South Florida the Spring.

484
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Speaker 1: Hope to see you soon. I appreciate you joining us.

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Speaker 3: Man, got it, brother, Thank you.

486
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Speaker 1: Man.

487
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Speaker 2: There you go, Miami head coach, Mario Crystaball, good stuff there.

488
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Speaker 2: You know, like I said, we don't do a ton

489
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Speaker 2: of guests on the show, but if I feel like

490
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Speaker 2: we have someone who is going to give the entire

491
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Speaker 2: audience something, for example, like putting a staff together. I

492
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Speaker 2: don't know that I've ever heard of coach go as

493
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Speaker 2: in depth as he just did on what goes into

494
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Speaker 2: putting a staff together.

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Speaker 1: That stuff fascinates me. I think it fascinates you. And

496
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Speaker 1: if not, look it looks like most of you are

497
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Speaker 1: still tuned in anyway. My promise.

498
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Speaker 2: We've got a ton to get to still on the show.

499
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Speaker 2: The Brian Harson Auburn story, which I'm about to get to,

500
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: is so multi layered, and we're going to talk about

501
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Speaker 2: all of it. I'm going to go back up to

502
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Speaker 2: Michigan because even though Mario Christaball couldn't talk about it,

503
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 2: I can now that he is safely off the air.

504
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: Josh Gaddis is going to be their new offensive coordinate,

505
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 2: and so this is big. Has ramifications down in South Florida,

506
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 2: but it has ramifications in ourborn.

507
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Speaker 1: All of that, plus I've got an announcement to make. Yeah, well,

508
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Speaker 1: why don't we do it tomorrow. We'll do it tomorrow.

509
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Speaker 2: It is about Academy Sports and Outdoors, who has been

510
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Speaker 2: for the entirety of last season and spoiler Alert for

511
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512
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Speaker 1: We appreciate them so much.

513
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Speaker 2: I have as much fun corresponding with them back and

514
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515
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Speaker 2: and the benefit for me is we don't have to

516
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517
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518
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Speaker 2: they just hit me up, say hey, tell George, We

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Speaker 2: said thank you. Hey tell Mike and Angela. We said

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Speaker 2: thank you. So they watch it. Whenever I tag them,

521
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Speaker 2: and whenever you put something out and you tag them,

522
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Speaker 2: they appreciate it. I appreciate it too, Academy Sports and Outdoors.

523
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524
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Speaker 2: And so just buy everything you were going to buy,

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Speaker 2: Just do it. At Academy Sports and Outdoors. You've got

526
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527
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Speaker 2: It's not just shirts, although it is that. You would

528
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Speaker 2: be shocked if you've never been in an Academy Sports

529
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Speaker 2: and Outdoors, you would be shocked at everything they have

530
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531
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Speaker 2: as me, Literally everything you need in.

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Speaker 1: Life is there.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know you could see my water on air, Colin.

534
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave it there. You have everything you need

535
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Speaker 2: in life. So make sure if you cannot get to

536
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Speaker 2: an Academy Sports and Outdoors in person, Academy dot com

537
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Speaker 2: that is your literal one stop shop for Like I said,

538
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Speaker 2: if you're like me, everything in life, but at the

539
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Speaker 2: very least, everything you could need from your outdoor sporting

540
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541
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Speaker 2: to Academy Sports and Outdoors. Quick, thank you to everyone

542
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Speaker 2: who's tuned in live and everyone who will watch the

543
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Speaker 2: replay just too quick, request like the video, subscribe to

544
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Speaker 2: the channel. We do not have an off season. We

545
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 2: will not even say the word out loud. We don't stop.

546
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: We don't take breaks. We're doing college football the entire year.

547
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Speaker 2: So if you want that and you want all the

548
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Speaker 2: other stuff pushed to the side, you come to the

549
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Speaker 2: right all right, talk about this whole Brian Harson situation.

550
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: Brian Harson's future at Auburn very unclear as we talk

551
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: Tonight Live. But Brian Harson or no Brian Harson, the

552
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: path Auburn football is on is it's not only uncertain,

553
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 2: it's kind of unsustainable. And it's felt this way for

554
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: a little while. So let's quickly talk about what we know.

555
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: What we know is there are far more people than

556
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Speaker 2: not around the Auburn program who do not think Brian

557
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: Harson will be the head coach. There this fault. That's

558
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: the state of affairs right now. Now, if you have

559
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: been out of town or you've been on the beach

560
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: somewhere and you really haven't been tuned into Twitter or

561
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: Auburn Undercover dot com and you're saying, wait, where did

562
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: this come from? What evidence is They're like, what are

563
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: they using in order to theoretically get rid of him?

564
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Speaker 1: Well, that's where I want to hit.

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Speaker 2: Time out for a second, because there are a lot

566
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Speaker 2: of things you would be led to believe we know

567
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Speaker 2: that really we don't know. You know, if you pressed

568
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Speaker 2: people to provide you the receipts on a lot of

569
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Speaker 2: the things that they're claiming they know about Brian Harson,

570
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Speaker 2: that'd be well, that'd be up the creek without a

571
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Speaker 2: legal paddle with which to maneuver. And I'll tell you

572
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Speaker 2: this too, there are a lot of folks out there

573
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Speaker 2: with a bright blue check mark next to their name

574
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Speaker 2: who have run with some of those things that they

575
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Speaker 2: themselves could not prove if their life depended on it.

576
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Speaker 2: Which is a little disappointing because even if it does

577
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Speaker 2: turn out to be true, you know, even if Brian

578
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Speaker 2: Harson is not the head coach at Auburn going forward,

579
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I've just been disappointed in a few people.

580
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Speaker 2: But this is not the time to name names. Here

581
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: is what I do want to do. I want to

582
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Speaker 2: take you back cause to me, the things we know

583
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: that really matter as it pertains to this current situation

584
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: at Auburn, we knew before he ever coached a game.

585
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 2: What do we know about Brian Harston? What do we

586
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Speaker 2: know about the Brian Harson situation? Well, we knew as

587
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Speaker 2: late as early seen.

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Speaker 1: Let me get my timeline right, so you start the

589
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Speaker 1: season in September. All right, let's go. What do we

590
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Speaker 1: know about Brian Harst.

591
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Speaker 2: Well, we knew before he ever coached a game that

592
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Speaker 2: he was going to be swimming upstream because he was

593
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Speaker 2: not the preferred choice for a lot of very powerful

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Speaker 2: people around Auburn.

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Speaker 1: That much has been established. Now.

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Speaker 2: We also know that those powerful people have had motivation

597
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Speaker 2: to find any fault imaginable in him since.

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Speaker 1: He has come to Auburn.

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Speaker 2: We also know that if there are fatal flaws and

600
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Speaker 2: fatal faults within Brian Harson, it doesn't really matter who

601
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Speaker 2: finds them. So it's not like I'm necessarily taking aside there.

602
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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to give you all the facts. What

603
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Speaker 2: we don't know, though, is also very important. And again

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Speaker 2: we speak live as of Sunday night, February sixth, Tomorrow morning,

605
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Speaker 2: all this could change. But what we don't know is

606
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Speaker 2: the reason I've been very silent on this. I've seen

607
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Speaker 2: your emails, I have seen your dms. By the hundreds

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Speaker 2: and hundreds, we may even be into the thousands at

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Speaker 2: this point. There's a reason I've been silent on this.

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Speaker 1: This week.

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Speaker 2: It's because I understand how poison pills work. In the

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Speaker 2: college athletics world. It's different than Wall Street. A poison

613
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Speaker 2: pill on Wall Street versus a poison pill in the college.

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Speaker 1: Football world, totally different.

615
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: A poison pill in the college football world is where

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Speaker 2: you've got a lot of powerful people who can make

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Speaker 2: headlines appear or if they really want to, and they,

618
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Speaker 2: through varying different angles, make sure those headlines get out there. Now,

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Speaker 2: when I say headline, I don't always mean something on

620
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Speaker 2: the front page of your Sunday paper. It may be

621
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Speaker 2: something that you see start trending on Twitter, it may

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Speaker 2: be something that starts making its way around the message

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Speaker 2: board community. But see in our world, in the college

624
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Speaker 2: football world, that might as well be a headline on

625
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Speaker 2: the front page of a paper, like the front page

626
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Speaker 2: of a Sunday paper circa nineteen ninety is a high

627
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Speaker 2: traffic message board threat. In twenty twenty two and so,

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Speaker 2: those have been circulating about Brian Harson. There have been

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Speaker 2: rumors that because I can't confirm them, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: specifically list. It doesn't matter. We all know what I'm

631
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: talking about. Those have been circulating all week now. Here's

632
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Speaker 2: what I can tell you. I don't know whether any

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Speaker 2: of them are true. What I do know, and the

634
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: reason I have remained silent on this to this point

635
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: is because there is an.

636
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Speaker 1: Avenue out there.

637
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: There is a world where if I was a very

638
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: powerful person who did not want you to have a

639
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: and you were the current head coach of my university,

640
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 2: I could make all those things pop up, even knowing

641
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 2: they're not true, because here's how the college football poison

642
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: pill works. Even once they're all disproven, or if they

643
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: don't stick and they fade away, here's what I can

644
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Speaker 2: do next.

645
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: I can say, well, look, okay.

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00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: So we didn't prove any of it, but really, haven't

647
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: we gone too far down this road at this point?

648
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 2: Doesn't it feel too negative around here? And you're gonna

649
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 2: hear this sentence once or a thousand times at this point?

650
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: How can we bring him back? Either way?

651
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: I've seen that happen before, and so if I even

652
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Speaker 2: get a slightest whiff that it may be happening around

653
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Speaker 2: me currently, I don't dive in all this could end

654
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Speaker 2: up being true. I'm not in a race to be

655
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Speaker 2: first on this when I would much rather hang back

656
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: and be right, especially when we have multiple people's reputations

657
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: on the line, including one person who's not even a coach.

658
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: I don't think this person ever, really, ever, really bargained

659
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: for quite what that person has gotten over the last

660
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: few days. But what do we actually know, like what

661
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: in terms of perceived evidence that could be used to

662
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 2: oust Brian Harson? Do we know it's not on field

663
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: because you cannot point to me a one year on

664
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: field product and say that's enough. That's not the way

665
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: the sport works, even at Auburn. That's not the way

666
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: it works. You don't get fired for not winning ten

667
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: games in year one. You don't get fired for not

668
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: having the best recruiting class in year one. No one

669
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: will ever convince me that's the reason this guy's getting fired.

670
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: If he does get fired, here's what we know currently

671
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: as of tonight, some disgruntled players exist in the Auburn

672
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 2: locker room. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to every locker room

673
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: in America, including the University of Georgia where they just

674
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: won a national championship, including the University of Alabama where

675
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: they just played for.

676
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,719
Speaker 1: A national championship.

677
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: You would be stunned even around the best programs in America.

678
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: If at any given point I could take a microphone

679
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: and inject truth serum into that locker room and get

680
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: the honest opinions of the entire roster, you'd be stunned

681
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: at how many disgruntled players there are. You would be

682
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: stunned at how many players don't think they're being treated

683
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: at thethetically. You would be stunned at how many parents

684
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: have not been spoken to by the head coach in

685
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: six months.

686
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: You'd be stunned.

687
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: And yet you would never call for anybody's removal because

688
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: those coaches are getting it done on the field, so

689
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: no one really cares. My point is, even during the

690
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: best of times, you don't have angels as coaches, and

691
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: you don't have angels in the locker room. We've never

692
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: played this game with angels, and so in lieu of that,

693
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: what we're trying to find is we're trying to find

694
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: the best combination of young men in the locker room

695
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: and guys to lead the program on a coaching roster.

696
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: But this is a look and if you're listening on

697
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: pod you won't even see this, but that's Lee Hunter.

698
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: Lee Hunter is one of many Auburn players who have

699
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: spoken out about this.

700
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it really quick.

701
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: Coach Harson has the true mindset for a winner, but

702
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: has a terrible mindset as a person. The reason I

703
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: chose to leave Auburn because we got treated like we

704
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: weren't good enough and like dogs. As that came out,

705
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: then there was a flurry of Auburn players, both past

706
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: and present, who came to Brian Harson's defense. There were

707
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: some other players, both passed and present, who spoke and said, look,

708
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: there's some validity. I mean, we don't think he's perfect,

709
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: but he's handling us the way we deserve to be handled,

710
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: and we need to be handled.

711
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: Point being, that's what we actually know. See, we have

712
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: evidence of this.

713
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: These are screenshots what we're showing you right now, so

714
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: we know all this has happened. We don't know if

715
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: any of the other garbagees happened. We know that this

716
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: has happened so far, and I know this is going

717
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: to shock you. I haven't seen evidence enough to warrn

718
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: anyone's firing. If and when additional evidence surfaces that put

719
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: someone in breach of his contract per se, then I

720
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: may change my tune. On that so far, what I

721
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: have seen here could be nothing more than the byproduct

722
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: of hard coaching for some guys that didn't have it previously. Okay, anddotally,

723
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: I could explain that away as that if I were

724
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: representing Brian Harson right now, Look, whatever happens here happens.

725
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: I've never met Brian Harson. Brian Hars is not a

726
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: friend of the program or anything. But I'm gonna tell

727
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: you a couple of things are in play here that

728
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: I've observed from sitting over here on the lines. One is,

729
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 2: of course, a majority of the power structure financially at

730
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: Auburn has been against the hire of Brian Hars and

731
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: therefore been against Brian Harson because he was not their choice,

732
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: and we documented that time and time again when the

733
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: hire was made. That's not breaking news. This shouldn't surprise

734
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: you either, but it may surprise you. There is a

735
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: certain portion of the media apparatus that surrounds this program

736
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: that are also pushing hard against Brian Harst. And look, again,

737
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: this may shock you, but I'm going to tell you

738
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: it's a lot more politically based than it is football based.

739
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: I don't typically delve into that here but it's blatantly obvious.

740
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: There are a lot of.

741
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: Folks in the national media too who's politics don't align

742
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: with Brian Harrison. I couldn't care less about it, but

743
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: a lot of other people do care about it. And

744
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: so the bottom line is it's very thin. It's not

745
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: multi layered on this front. It's very thin that there's

746
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: an invisible political layer over this and nothing more than

747
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: that is the reason some folks are pushing against him,

748
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: and really behind the scenes, because I've heard it.

749
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: My off rooting for him to be.

750
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: Fired really has nothing to do with Auburn football. It's

751
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: why I don't pay that part of the conversation a whole.

752
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: Lot of mind.

753
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: But there are issues here, okay, Brian Harson. Even if

754
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: we were to wide out into these waters of trying

755
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: to defend him, there are clearly some things that have

756
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: been said, even by players taking his side, that need attention,

757
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: and there are probably some adjustments he's gonna have to make,

758
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: whether it be in the way he handles players or

759
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: the way that he recruits and the way that he

760
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: puts a staff together. Certainly, if he were to keep

761
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: this job, which seems very unlikely, but if he were

762
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: to keep this job, there's a lot that has to

763
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: change there. But like I've always heard the comparison folks

764
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: around Clemson and Auburn. You guys have probably heard people

765
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: compare your program, you know, for broad strokes purposes. A

766
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: lot of folks have always looked at Clemson and they've said,

767
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: that's Auburn with a lake, same mascots, same rough market size,

768
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: it's same kind of same kind of encapsulated feel.

769
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: You know.

770
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: It's kind of your rivals would call a cult. You

771
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: would call it a family. And I don't really have

772
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: a problem.

773
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: With either, to be honest with you. Both of them

774
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: are good for business. But I don't think that the

775
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: comparison fits here.

776
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: I think there's a huge difference because I don't think

777
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: Dabos Swinny could ever happen at Auburn. So I don't

778
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: think enough people woul get out of the way long

779
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: enough to give that time to grow, to be planted

780
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: and to germinate. That's the right way. I haven't planned

781
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: it in a long time. I don't think Dabos Sweeney

782
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: could happen at Auburn right now. And that guy went

783
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: on to win a couple of national championships. Do you

784
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: really think, especially if he wasn't the choice of certain

785
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: power brokers at Auburn, did you really think Dabos Swinny

786
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: would be given time to find his footing at Auburn?

787
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: I don't, which leads me to, really, you want to

788
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: talk about problems. The real issue at Auburn here, Brian

789
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: Harson or not, is how long it takes you to

790
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: answer the question I'm about to ask. See when I

791
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: ask you who runs Alabama football? You answer Nick Saban,

792
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 2: Just like that, who runs Georgia football? Yeah, it's a

793
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: Kirby smart, just like that. If I were to ask

794
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: you who runs Auburn football? I got to go get

795
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 2: a drink and just say back and wait.

796
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: For a dissertation. No one can answer the question.

797
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: If it takes you more than two seconds to answer

798
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 2: the question of who runs your football program, you don't

799
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: have proper leadership in your football program. And then I

800
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: want you to think about this. There would be some

801
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: pushback around the Auburn community. There would be some pushback

802
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: from the big money folks who are demanding to have

803
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: their say here that well, look.

804
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: Josh, they're doing it because they love Auburn.

805
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: I don't doubt that. I don't doubt that whatsoever. But

806
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 2: you know, it is possible to love something to death.

807
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: And that's exactly for a long time what a lot

808
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: of very powerful people around Auburn Athletics have done in

809
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: exchange for the grip that they demand to have on

810
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: the program and buy their way into having.

811
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: It's the beautiful slash hideous side of college athletics.

812
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: If you got folks who are willing to write checks,

813
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: you can build a lot of immaculate facilities, and you

814
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: can write a lot of big salary numbers, and you

815
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: can do all sorts of things. But in return, we

816
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: walk a tightrope because very, very seldom has someone made

817
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: it to the point in the business world where they

818
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: have that many figures in their net worth and they're

819
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: still willing to write checks and ask for nothing in return.

820
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: That's not the investment that they're interested in. But m

821
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: it's possible. It is very possible to love something to death.

822
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: In a perfect world, the Auburn job is the toughest

823
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: job in the country.

824
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: When you account for the challenge and.

825
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: Expectation level, the Auburn job is the toughest one in

826
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: the country. A and M's a freight train. Alabama's a

827
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: freight train, Georgia is a freight train. LSU's a freight train.

828
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: That is a thirty year schedule. You've got to play

829
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: every year. Auburn's the only program in the country that

830
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: has to play four of about the top six or

831
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: seven investors in America, four or five really of the

832
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 2: most powerful programs annually in America.

833
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: They got to play them every year.

834
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: Even if you have everything in sync and moving in

835
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 2: the same direction, it is an incredibly hard job.

836
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: Imagine if you have.

837
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: Different forces pulling in different directions, how impossible it is

838
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: for Brian Harson or anyone else to win at Auburn.

839
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 2: That's why I pushed back a little bit, and it

840
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: kind of sounds like I'm defending him. I'm defending him

841
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: generically only because I would defend anyone who was put

842
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: in that position at the program and job I feel

843
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: to be the hardest in America and was not given

844
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: full by it. Because there's no coach in America that

845
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 2: would succeed in that position, none of them. I don't

846
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: care who you're talking about. And so where we are

847
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: right now is we keep hitting F five and we

848
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: keep refreshing, and we keep looking on every single website,

849
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: and you keep waiting for the usual suspects who breaks

850
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: stories to break stories, And as of the moment, sounds

851
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: like Brian Harson still on vacation.

852
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: Hey, this is like the reverse castaway.

853
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: From Tom Hanks. You know, Tom Hanks is looking to

854
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: get off the beach. I tell Brian Harson's stay on

855
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: that beach in Mexico as long as you can. I

856
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: think we'll have resolution on this very very soon, one

857
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: way or the other. It's just no matter how it ends,

858
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 2: it's a shame. I was talking to a coach earlier today,

859
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: actually talking back and forth with a few of them

860
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: who are just curious. You know, have you heard anything

861
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: on the Auburn situation. Everyone agree. Here's the sad If

862
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: you're an Auburn fan, every coach out there who you

863
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 2: talk to, they say a version of the same thing.

864
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: It's a shame. Auburn isn't more than what it is.

865
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: It's the opinion, the widely held opinion in the coaching community.

866
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: It's a shame Auburn isn't more than it is because

867
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: they look at it and they see a diamond in

868
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: the rough. In relation to what other major programs are,

869
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: and they think what separates Auburn from being one of

870
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 2: those other mainstay major programs, perennial contenders, et cetera, ironically,

871
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: is the same financial lifeblood that powers Auburn. So, life,

872
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: what do you do? Do you unplug Auburn from the

873
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: financial wall? No, because then it powers down. So now

874
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: you understand just a little bit about the beautiful nightmare

875
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: that is being an Auburn football fan and a fan

876
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: of Auburn athletics basketball team's doing.

877
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: Pretty good, great gymnastics editions lately.

878
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 2: But football drives the bus, and right now no one

879
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: has a clue where the bus is going. So we

880
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: talked to Mario Christopaul at the beginning of the show,

881
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: and now I wanted to go back, but I wanted

882
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 2: to hit it from entirely differ for an angle very

883
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: uncertain times at the University of Michigan. Suffice it to say,

884
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: right now, consider the last seventy five days. If you

885
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: will for a Michigan fan, I want you to take

886
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: yourself on this ride. Imagine you beat Ohio State first

887
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: time in a long time. We were there for that

888
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 2: one one of the experiences of my life and their lives.

889
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: Then a week later they win the Big Ten Championship

890
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 2: over Iowa. Then they make the college Football Playoff, first

891
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: time in program history. And then things start to go

892
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: downhill some Michigan fans, if you want to turn away

893
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: for a second, they get blasted by Georgia. And then

894
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: you start hearing rumors about Jim Harbaugh. And then the

895
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: smoke turns to fire and you find out he's going

896
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 2: to interview for the Vikings job. And then it looks

897
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: for all the world like he's gone. But the only

898
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: reason that was the case is because he assumed that

899
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: the interview was a formality. In reality, it wasn't a formality.

900
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: He doesn't get the job. That you lose McDonald the

901
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator anyway, And now today you wake up and

902
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: you see the headline Josh Gaddis is headed to Miami.

903
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: There was an old Howard Jones song back in the

904
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: eighties when I I was riding over to Sherwood Elementary School.

905
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: I used to like listening to classic rock in like

906
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: eighties pop, even though it had been written before I

907
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: was born. And there was this Howard Jones song that

908
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 2: was called No One Is to blame. And as much

909
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: as everyone wants to blame someone around Michigan right now,

910
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 2: could I at least interject the possibility that no one.

911
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: Is to blame.

912
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: And I've got a certain buddy who is of Maze

913
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: and Blue descent who shall remain nameless right now because

914
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: he's been really mouthy today, but I think he will.

915
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: He will be surprised to hear me say this. I've

916
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: really baited him into thinking I was going to say

917
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: something else.

918
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: But look, there's a lot.

919
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: Of there's a lot of things, a lot of things

920
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: happening around Michigan that aren't good.

921
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: But it doesn't always mean that someone is to blame.

922
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just the way it is there. You go

923
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: Howard Jones and Bruce hornsby same segment. Jim Harbaugh was

924
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: not misleading in any shape, form.

925
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: Or fashion with what he did.

926
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: If it was unethical, if he told you at a podium,

927
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: I am not interviewing for those NFL jobs, and then boom,

928
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: wake up one morning, Adam Schefter is reporting he's interviewing

929
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: for a job.

930
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: That'd be one thing. He didn't do that, And he even.

931
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: Went so far reportedly as to tell his staff because

932
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: he thought he was gone, Hey, you might want to

933
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 2: take the rest of the week and go interview for jobs.

934
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: Okay, there's nothing wrong with that. Not blaming anyone for that.

935
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: Here's the problem.

936
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: Some of his staff did in d take him up

937
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: on that, and they did go interview for jobs, so

938
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: they lost some assistance. He doesn't get the Vikings job,

939
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: which is a shock to him. And now he's back

940
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: and it's like you're being thrown into the middle of

941
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: a NASCAR race, but you got to start from zero

942
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: miles an hour. It feels that way in reality, it's

943
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 2: not always that way. But if I were to fault anyone,

944
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you I think Jim Harbaugh in

945
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: retrospect probably misplayed this a little bit in that I

946
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: know it's very, very tough, and it's very easy to

947
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: sit here from an armchair quarterback perspective and say this,

948
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 2: but here's the reality, because it happens in my line.

949
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: Of work too.

950
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: When you get to a certain stature you cannot afford

951
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: to go in interview for jobs. You can't and if

952
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: you have to go into a classical interview, sometimes you

953
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: got to bite the bullet and say no, thank you.

954
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: Let's think about what you're risking if it gets out,

955
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: which it did with Jim Harbaugh.

956
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: The news gets out and then you go interview and

957
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: you find out it's not a formality. You're actually going

958
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: through a job interview in which there's a very real chance,

959
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: maybe better than a fifty percent chance.

960
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: They could tell you thinks, but no, thanks, what.

961
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: Do you come back to. Everybody just watched you try

962
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: and get out. Now, I'm not blaming him, there's no

963
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: fault here, but what do you come back to?

964
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: That's the risk.

965
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: It's a huge risk reward, and the greater your stature,

966
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: then the bigger the risk is if you're walking into

967
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 2: a classical interview setting. That's why a lot of times

968
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: when you get to the interview portion, for like a

969
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: major coach or in our industry, a major on air talent,

970
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: it's a formality, it's already happened. And if it isn't

971
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: a formality, then the interview process is very different from

972
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: the way that normal folks go up a job interview.

973
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 2: You're not showing up there, someone who represents you is

974
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 2: showing up or either there is a lot of action

975
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: via third party.

976
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: And back channels.

977
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: It's just it's not the way Horbon went about it. Again,

978
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: I'm not faulting him, but I am saying that in retrospect,

979
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: may be a regret he has. Maybe not, I don't know,

980
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: but here's the issue. Josh gaddis now formally offensive coordinator

981
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: at Michigan, obviously saw some things during that period he

982
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: didn't like. I've Actually I did not even send this

983
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: element Jesse. But Josh gaddis who took the Miami job,

984
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: and it was announced today, he sent a text to

985
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: his players. I'm gonna read it to you, he said, Fellas,

986
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 2: it's with a broken heart I write this. I'm resigning

987
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: my position here at Michigan to go to another university.

988
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: I've given everything I have to you guys at Michigan.

989
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 2: I sacrifice so much personally. Unfortunately, the past few weeks

990
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 2: have told me a different story. Pay attention here about

991
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: the very little appreciation I have here from the administration.

992
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: In life, I would never advise anyone to be where

993
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: they are not wont and I owe that to my

994
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: family and my integrity to hold myself to this standard. Okay,

995
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: So here's what I got from that, and I think

996
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: a lot of people would concur with this. He found

997
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: out he was not going to be the head coach

998
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: at Michigan. That's what I took from that, because I

999
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: think Michigan was well down the road of not only

1000
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: vetting candidates, but they were getting their ducks in a

1001
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: row and they probably knew the route they were going

1002
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: to go if Jim Harbaugh got the job in Minnesota.

1003
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: And I think from what Josh Gaddis is.

1004
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: Telling you there, I think he found out it wasn't

1005
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: him and that there could be other possibilities.

1006
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: That's why Antonio is my opinion.

1007
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: But my opinion based on reading that I interpreted it

1008
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: as he found out he wasn't nearly as high on

1009
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 2: the pecking order as he thought.

1010
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: I do not think that it's a shot at Jim Harbaugh.

1011
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: I do not perceive that at all to be a

1012
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: shot at anything related to Jim Harbaugh.

1013
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean Josh Gaddis.

1014
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: I've watched him break down and borderline cry before when

1015
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: he's talked about the opportunity Gaddis gave. Remember, Harbaugh didn't

1016
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: come to Alabama and take off. It's a coordinator, Josh

1017
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 2: Gaddis to Ann Arbor, he took wide receivers coach Josh Gattison.

1018
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: Gaddis had not had his shot on the big stage

1019
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: as a coordinator. That man Jim Harbaugh gave it to him.

1020
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 2: So I don't think the lack of appreciation, at least

1021
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: from Gaddis's point of view, is from Harball. That's why

1022
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: I think he made specific mention of the administration there again,

1023
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: is their fault? Are we blaming anyone? Not necessarily. I

1024
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: think you could ask the question, if Jim Harbaugh hadn't

1025
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: ha gone and interviewed for the job, would Josh Gaddis

1026
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: have ever found this out?

1027
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: Would he be of this opinion? That's a game that

1028
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: you can play elsewhere. I mean, it's not really don't

1029
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: really have much point to be played here now.

1030
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: But the big takeaway here as we move on, there

1031
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: is a lot to be done here. It's going to

1032
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: be one of the bigger challenges of Jim Harbaugh's career. Ironically,

1033
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: coming off an Ohio State win and a Big Ten championship,

1034
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: I think one of the biggest challenges he's had yet

1035
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: awaits him. Because I'm going to tell you what the

1036
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: perception is for those of you outside the Big Ten.

1037
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: Here's the perception.

1038
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: The perception, especially in places like Columbus, Ohio, the perception

1039
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: is Jim Harbaugh said a.

1040
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: Lot of things.

1041
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 2: His mouth wrote a lot of checks that he didn't

1042
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: think he was going to need to be around to cash.

1043
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: You know, talking about me born on third base thinking

1044
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: you hit a triple, all that stuff, Well.

1045
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: They heard it.

1046
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: Now, look, I got no problem with it. You guys know,

1047
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: I don't ever have a problem with it. But now

1048
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: what could be a problem is Jim Harbaugh's got a

1049
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: job he didn't think he was gonna have, and that's

1050
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: the Michigan job, and he's doing it without some big

1051
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: time talent that's leaving for the NFL Draft, and he's

1052
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: doing it without either coordinator. The reason why I'm not

1053
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: saying it's some disaster and I'm not saying, oh my goodness,

1054
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: what's Michigan going to do. He hasn't made replacement Highers yet.

1055
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: I was our buddy Dave Bartwo today. He was talking

1056
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: about the different ways Jim Harbaugh could go with this,

1057
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 2: and it wouldn't be the first time. If Harbaugh was

1058
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: able to pull off a couple of grand slam hires,

1059
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be the first time that we thought a

1060
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: staff had been sold down the river and we were

1061
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: selling stock on him, and all of a sudden, two

1062
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: weeks later, you're looking around saying, wait, did they actually upgrade? Now,

1063
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: most of the time it's nick say you've been doing that,

1064
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: but let's just wait and see. Let's wait and fill

1065
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: out the report card until actual replacements are made.

1066
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: But here's the other thing.

1067
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: This is where I think you can breathe a little

1068
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: sigh of relief if you're a Michigan fan. The biggest risk,

1069
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 2: given the current set of circumstances, in other words, he

1070
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: doesn't get the NFL job and he's back now. The

1071
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: biggest risk you were running as a Michigan fan is

1072
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: having Dan Mullen two point zero thrust in your lap,

1073
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: a guy who has his eyes locked on the NFL

1074
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: and it doesn't work out for him, and he's plopped

1075
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: back in the same spot he had last year and

1076
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 2: he has no interest in being there. That was Dan

1077
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: Mullen this past year. That's why Dan Mullen will not

1078
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: be at Florida this year and moving forward. I do

1079
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: not think that's something you have to worry about with

1080
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh. Might he interview for another NFL job down

1081
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: the road. Sure he might, but as long as he

1082
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: is at the University of Michigan, he'll be one hundred

1083
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 2: percent dialed in at the University of Michigan. I don't

1084
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: think the attachment that he has to that place would

1085
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: allow him to be anything other than all in at Michigan.

1086
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: So my biggest fear would be boy, if a guy

1087
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: tries to leap and he can't jump forward and he

1088
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: has to come back start over at square one, maybe

1089
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: he just never maybe his feet are never there again. Fully,

1090
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: I don't worry about that with Jim Harbaugh, but it's

1091
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: going to be a tall order. If it's a rebuild year,

1092
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: so be it. Maybe it's a rebuild year. First thing

1093
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: you got to do is shut off that transfer portal

1094
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 2: and make sure half your talent doesn't follow Josh Gattis

1095
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: to Miami, and the second thing you need to do,

1096
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: you got to make some hires, and then the third

1097
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: thing you need to do is get in spring and

1098
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 2: hopefully some other big stories happened around.

1099
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: College football and everyone forgets all about this.

1100
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, uncertain times at Michigan. Think about how much

1101
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: worse it would be if it were uncertain, and you

1102
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: didn't have the Ohio State replay to go watch, and

1103
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: you didn't have the Iowa replay to go watch.

1104
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: So that will comfort you if nothing more.

1105
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot going on elsewhere, and so some of

1106
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: you have asked a question about something that we had

1107
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 2: happened last week.

1108
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: If you were watching the early signing.

1109
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: Day show, you saw that we had Nick Saban on.

1110
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: He was delightful.

1111
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: You saw that we had Jimbo Fisher on and he

1112
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 2: looked like he was getting ready for Van Halen concert.

1113
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: Guy was out of his mind. He was mad. He

1114
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: had some things to say. But before we get to that, Colin,

1115
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: please get me ready for us. The nil era has begun.

1116
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: I like this.

1117
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 4: Well, sooner for the nation.

1118
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: Stop quarterback.

1119
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 2: What if this whole nil era does far more to

1120
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: police self behavior correction than coaches ever could think about

1121
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: what we have now for the first time, we have

1122
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: players with actual skin in the game.

1123
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 5: Players should decide where he's going to go to school

1124
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 5: based on where it can develop best personally, academically and

1125
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 5: athletically from a program standpoint, and it shouldn't be about money.

1126
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna go to I'm going back home, baby.

1127
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: When you got money involved and you start getting into

1128
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 2: someone's pile of money, that's when you got their attention.

1129
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: I think people really say it this way. But let's

1130
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 3: not make a mistake. I mean, we have free agency

1131
00:49:58,520 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 3: in college football.

1132
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 6: We worry about the kids in social media Internet? How

1133
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 6: about grown thems? How about the guys that're supposed to

1134
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 6: be sitting example, how about writers who are supposed to

1135
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 6: be writing the right thing? How about coaches' supposed to

1136
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 6: be doing the right thing. And I'll tell you what

1137
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 6: I know how some of those guys recruit too.

1138
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 5: I think if we use this to entice players to

1139
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 5: pick a school, I don't think that's a great thing.

1140
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 6: It's funny when Nick Saban said it, his quarterback got

1141
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 6: a eight hundred thousand dollars deal with wonderful.

1142
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: Now it ain't wonderful no more.

1143
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 3: Huh what ours that?

1144
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 6: We ain't got that ours on record?

1145
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: What comes up?

1146
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 6: We ain't doing all in big deal? Ain't none on

1147
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 6: our places we know of. That's funny when you do it.

1148
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: It could be that people value money even more than

1149
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: playing time.

1150
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 5: The kids a five times to go to where they're

1151
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 5: go get paid the most, so no one else is

1152
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 5: saying that maybe, But you know, if the kids say,

1153
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 5: that's what I'm getting here, brand I out.

1154
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 6: The hypocrisy is a joke, an absolute joke, and it's

1155
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 6: insulting to our staff, how hard we work, how we

1156
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 6: do things. It's insulting the Texas A and M because

1157
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 6: there ain't a better place to go to school and

1158
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 6: play ball.

1159
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: We don't like it.

1160
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 6: We're coming on, get used to it.

1161
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: I remember the Houston Astrodome in April of two thousand

1162
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: and one, WrestleMania seventeen, best WrestleMania they ever had. It

1163
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: was Rotten versus Austin for the title. Before that, they

1164
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: ran what I think is the best hype promo in

1165
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: the history of world wrestling entertainment. And basically what I'm

1166
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: trying to tell you is that is our version of

1167
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: that pre match promo that was brilliantly done. That's why

1168
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: we do not have production assistance. We have production executives

1169
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: here on Late Kick last week. First, I want to

1170
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: read you the question. Okay, let me tee it up

1171
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 2: properly so Colin could.

1172
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: Cut the video.

1173
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: So a question from Zach here. He said, what were

1174
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: your personal thoughts on the interview? You guys did with

1175
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher on National Signing Day? Well, Zachary, I'm glad

1176
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: you asked, because I have plenty of thoughts. So, those

1177
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: of you who missed it last we're on National Signing Day.

1178
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: We started at nine in the morning. We're all the

1179
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: way at like three or three thirty in the afternoon,

1180
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 2: so we've been on several hours, Several cans of caffeine.

1181
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: Have been consumed.

1182
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: And we get Jimbo and we get Nick Saban back

1183
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: to back. And so we got Jimbo Fisher first, and

1184
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: we got a little ways in there. And let me

1185
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: tell you, guys, there's a lot going on behind the

1186
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: scenes on those shows. So you have the SID, the

1187
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: sports information director. You're in constant communication in the control room.

1188
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: The control room is then in your ear in this

1189
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: little earpiece here called an IFB. And so much as

1190
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: producer Jesse's talking to me right now, I got Tray Scott,

1191
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: and I got Tully and the folks down there in

1192
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: Fort Lauderdale doing a great job, and they're in my

1193
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: ear and they're letting me know how much time Jimbo

1194
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: Fisher has. So I find out we got about minute

1195
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: minute change left. So I figure I'm going to ask

1196
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: him a generic NIL question and he can go wherever

1197
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 2: he wants to with it. So I just asked, what

1198
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: do you think about NIL and how did you guys

1199
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: use it for this signing class? And he said it

1200
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: didn't affect recruiting at all. Now I don't believe that

1201
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: to be true, nor does Jimbo Fisher need for it.

1202
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: And so to me, like there's nothing illegal about it,

1203
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 2: I to own it. I mean, it's nonsense to suggest

1204
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: that NIL had nothing to do with it. Now here's

1205
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: what also's nonsense on the other side. And this is

1206
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 2: what my buddy's over at Gigham twenty four to seven

1207
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: and textags what they would say. They would say, Okay, well,

1208
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: are you saying that Texas A and M disproportionately accelerated

1209
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: recruiting using this when everyone else could have used it?

1210
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: Dude, No, no, no, no, that's not what I'm saying at all.

1211
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: In fact, I didn't say anything period, but Jimbo took

1212
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: it and ran with it. Now, he wasn't directing his

1213
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 2: ire at us. I just happened to ask the question.

1214
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 2: But boy, he got into sliced bread literally, and he

1215
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: got into a lot of the headlines that had been

1216
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: out there about an X and Y dollar figure that

1217
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: had been used by Texas, A and M to attract

1218
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: this recruiting class. Look, it's obvious they took recruiting up

1219
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: a notch or three notches this cycle.

1220
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: Listen.

1221
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: I opened my email inbox, and here's why, I'll take

1222
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: you behind the scenes a little bit. I opened my

1223
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: email inbox after the show, and I'm going on various

1224
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: message boards after the show in our network, and I

1225
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: saw some notifications, and I saw some emails, and some

1226
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: of you had reached out, and you ask in varying

1227
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: degrees of colorful language, why I didn't push him, which

1228
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: would have been the most ignorant thing I could have done.

1229
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you first off, because there's a

1230
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: different standard when you're on a very very big platform

1231
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: with a company like CBS and you are interviewing a

1232
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: very high profile subject. And what I mean by that is,

1233
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: if you don't have facts in front of you, it's

1234
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: best to keep your mouth shut. I didn't have facts

1235
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: in front of me. You can go post what you

1236
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: want to on a message board. You know, you can

1237
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: say what you want to in is chat, right, now.

1238
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: To varying degrees.

1239
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: At least, I can't just spout it off to it.

1240
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 2: I can't say, coach, I heard this rumor. In that rumor,

1241
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: because you know, what he can do and checkmate me

1242
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: and possibly take legal action against my company if he

1243
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: really wants to do. What he can say is could

1244
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: you provide me those details? Could you provide me that evidence?

1245
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: You know, because you just talked about my name and

1246
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: my university's name, and you just said something that you

1247
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: can't prove. Their laws against that. Yeah, there are he

1248
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: may not press charges. There are laws against that, and

1249
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: so it would have been very very ignorant for me

1250
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: to do that. Secondly, how about this, how about I

1251
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 2: also had folks in my ear saying this is it,

1252
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: this is a wrap this as a rep and we

1253
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: blew straight through that.

1254
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: I did ask him a follow up question.

1255
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: So we really went way beyond the time that we

1256
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 2: had allotted.

1257
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: Now he wasn't dying to get.

1258
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: Up, as you saw, but the exchange, the back and forth,

1259
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: it started to go in a direction that I was

1260
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 2: very surprised by.

1261
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know that he had all that teed up.

1262
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: It was so obvious that he had been waiting for

1263
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: signing day, and then he was ready to tee off.

1264
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: He even said in our interview, you wait till I

1265
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: get to my press conference today. When I get to

1266
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: our press conference today, I'm gonna get into this a

1267
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: lot more. That's why he put it in the end

1268
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: of the reading glasses on and off, on and off

1269
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: during the press conference. Look, I got no problem with

1270
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher. In fact, afterwards, you know, we talked to

1271
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: A and M. They said, good stuff, great job. So

1272
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 2: there was nothing between anyone here in Jimbo Fisher. There

1273
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: was no ill will there at all. I did think

1274
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: that it was a little curious that he said this

1275
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: didn't impact recruiting at all. I think it did impact recruiting.

1276
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 2: But at the same time, if I'm a Texas and

1277
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 2: M fan, what I would say is everyone could have

1278
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: played by this game. There are certain state laws that

1279
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: prevented some universities from playing it like other universities did.

1280
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: And that's not A and M's fault.

1281
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 2: A and M, as best you can tell, I didn't

1282
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 2: have any of you provide me any definitive evidence. As

1283
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 2: best I could tell with the information in front of me,

1284
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 2: they just played the game the way they could play it,

1285
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 2: and they signed the best class in the history of

1286
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 2: organized recruiting rankings in the process.

1287
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: But I had fun with it, like I was glad

1288
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: it happened.

1289
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: Number one, because we got a head start on the

1290
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: rest of the nation, because he didn't have his press

1291
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 2: conference for another thirty minutes. Number two, because I told

1292
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 2: him even afterwards, I don't even care if I agree

1293
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: with what someone says. If a coach like Mario Christbaul

1294
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: did earlier in the show, if a coach is willing

1295
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: to come on air with you and he's willing to

1296
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 2: really spill his soul, tell you exactly what he thinks,

1297
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: and there's no filter on it, you don't get that

1298
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: very often. I mean, there are entire departments within universities

1299
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: that are specifically created to make sure coaches don't ever

1300
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: say anything, make sure players don't say anything, make sure

1301
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 2: coaches don't say anything. So when one's willing to be

1302
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 2: open and raw and honest with you, I said when

1303
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 2: we wrapped up the interview, I appreciate you for saying

1304
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,959
Speaker 2: what a lot of people in your profession would never say.

1305
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: And that's just how you honestly feel.

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00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: And I knew at that point. You throw it out there,

1307
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: you let the public think what they think about it.

1308
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't need to tell you what you think about it.

1309
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: The entire reason you tune in. I mean, you're not

1310
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: five years old. So some of you loved it, some

1311
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: of you hated it, some of you thought he was lying,

1312
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: some of you thought.

1313
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: He was telling the truth.

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00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: They're always shades of gray where I think he's the

1315
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: most aggravated. And I totally get this. In this vein,

1316
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: I would probably be just like him. He says it

1317
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with recruiting. I don't buy that.

1318
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: But here is also what he knows. He knows that

1319
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 2: he has put together a staff out there that's really good,

1320
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 2: and they killed it out there, and they hit the

1321
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: pavement like they've probably never hit it before. And he

1322
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: feels like when people just throw out a dollar figure

1323
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: that may very well be false, but when people throw

1324
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: out that claim in general, they're discounting the work they've done.

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00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: And that would aggravate me too. So I understood it

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Speaker 1: all aside.

1327
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: I understand people who call bs on him when he

1328
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 2: says there's nothing about this that impacted recruiting. I totally

1329
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: get how hit'd be irate when people just dismiss a

1330
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: record setting classes. Oh yeah, but they bought it. Well, no,

1331
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: that's not the way it works. That's that's not exactly

1332
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 2: the way it works. So I credit Texas, A and M,

1333
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: and I think that you will see a lot of

1334
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: adjustments made from a lot of different angles because of

1335
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 2: the way this recruiting cycle in general played out.

1336
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: But what you can't do is you can't take that

1337
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: away from them.

1338
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 2: So the other thing that I want to do before

1339
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: we wrap up here is I want to thank you

1340
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: because we are sitting here on February sixth, I mean,

1341
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: we're an hour into a show, and I have promised

1342
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: you if you guys don't go anywhere, which you have not,

1343
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: our numbers are three hundred and thirty percent year over

1344
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: year higher than they were this time last year. You

1345
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 2: guys haven't gone anywhere. We're not going anywhere. So there's

1346
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: a reason we call it no season. We're not going

1347
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 2: anywhere because you have demanded it. It's a very different dynamic.

1348
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: I'm not going to bore you with numbers, but when

1349
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: we look at our audience and then we cross compare

1350
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: it to other comparable shows, and podcasts out there. Our

1351
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: audience is staying and theirs aren't.

1352
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: Because other folks out there.

1353
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: Apparently want an off season, we don't, and so we

1354
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: don't recognize it. And the reason I can do that

1355
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: is because you cooperate. So thank you so much. Make

1356
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: sure you know it's free. Make sure you're sharing the

1357
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 2: show so we can keep it free. That's about all

1358
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: we got. We will be back here same time for

1359
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: Late Kick Live Thursday night. The Late Kick Extra podcast

1360
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: is back in its normal Wednesday time this week. Make

1361
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: sure you start getting those questions in. We're going to

1362
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: be here. I think we're going to record that Tuesday.

1363
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 2: But we've started to do some video off of that,

1364
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: not because I want to, but because you've asked for it.

1365
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: So make sure. Since we don't do three live shows

1366
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: a week, I've got to get all the out. Make

1367
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: sure you're following them stuff. If I forget anything, that's

1368
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: where you'll see at Late Kick Josh.

1369
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: So for our entire team here, appreciate Mario christ Paul

1370
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: joining us tonight, for producer Jesse, for director Colin, for

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01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: our production executives who had a lot of work today,

1372
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: not a lot of time to get it done. I'm

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01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: Josh Fad you know what, let's think dude. You guys

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01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: take care. I have a great early start for your week.

1375
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: You got one.