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Speaker 3: But I thought Dak Prescott had a pretty interesting comment.
Speaker 3: Jory Epstein or you should be Dallas Morning News and
Speaker 3: the Yahoo Sports. So Jory's about with Dak Prescott. Dak
Speaker 3: Prescott came out in favor of Mike McCarthy being back
Speaker 3: as the head coach.
Speaker 2: Fresh Batch delivered, how do we see it?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 5: Man, Well, obviously, Prescott's you know, input on this is
Speaker 5: gonna be huge, you know, easier quarterback for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 5: So his input or input on who's going to coach
Speaker 5: his team, and you gotta take it, you know, you
Speaker 5: gotta take that input from him. But to me, it's tough, man,
Speaker 5: because just a couple of weeks ago, you know, before
Speaker 5: this mini win streak was going on, you had players
Speaker 5: talking about the head coach, talking about the work he
Speaker 5: puts in. Yeah, your head defensive player, maybe the best
Speaker 5: player on your team, was talking about the work ethic
Speaker 5: of a one Mike McCarthy. Then you go on the
Speaker 5: offensive side of the football, your best player so far
Speaker 5: the season on the offensive side of the football, a
Speaker 5: least the skilled position wise, City Lamb talking about your
Speaker 5: creativity and how does you know this offense seeming stagnant.
Speaker 5: So you had two of your best players out there
Speaker 5: talking about the head coach, and then you go on
Speaker 5: a mini win streak and then everything is all good again,
Speaker 5: and you know, we want the guy back.
Speaker 2: And I understand, you know, Dak got love for the.
Speaker 5: Head coach and if he wants them to stay, that's
Speaker 5: a big that's a big time endorsement. But I don't know,
Speaker 5: as soon as you're losing another game, is somebody else
Speaker 5: gonna come out and say something about Mike. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: then and then we back to square one. So that's
Speaker 5: a huge endorsement from your from your quarterbacks. He's the
Speaker 5: leader of this team, and he's gonna be there for
Speaker 5: the foreseeable future. But I think you gotta, you know,
Speaker 5: put all things into account before you go ahead and
Speaker 5: sign Big Mike back.
Speaker 2: No y'all want to hear what you got to say?
Speaker 3: Yeah, spot, I think that Dak Prescott has always been
Speaker 3: a very good person at playing the playing the game
Speaker 3: from a political standpoint, and so whatever you say, it's
Speaker 3: used against you, right, which said can he use against you?
Speaker 3: So you come out, first off, Mike helped you get
Speaker 3: a sixty million dollar year contry. He did not come
Speaker 3: out and say something positive about the man. He did
Speaker 3: do that, Okay, So so you owe him that a
Speaker 3: little bit of gratitude. But if you have any questions
Speaker 3: about hey man, maybe he's change to do that, that's
Speaker 3: not something you take public because he's got the back
Speaker 3: line of Jerry. So to me, you've got to do
Speaker 3: what he did. I'm not saying I would believe him,
Speaker 3: but that's what you're supposed to do as the leader
Speaker 3: of the team. You don't need to be creating anyways.
Speaker 3: Whatever Jerry does. You know, Jerry gonna call you anyway.
Speaker 3: Jerry's not going to Jerry's not going to hire anybody
Speaker 3: who does not believe in number four getting at a job,
Speaker 3: you simply cannot have a job. So what I heard
Speaker 3: him say yesterday was what I expected Dak Prescott to say.
Speaker 3: I like Mike McCarthy, I want Mike McCarthy back. That's
Speaker 3: what I expect him to say. I'm not saying I
Speaker 3: don't believe him, but that who is, That is who
Speaker 3: he is. Dak is not a guy like Aaron Rodger's
Speaker 3: gonna sit up and say some that's not him. He's
Speaker 3: not about to rock the boat. It's not your boy.
Speaker 3: Justin Fields last year was calling out the Bears coaches.
Speaker 2: Not that kind of guy.
Speaker 3: So when I heard him, like, that's on brand for
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott and whatever Dak has to say, that's anything
Speaker 3: other than just the right thing is, He's going to
Speaker 3: go ahead and take it to Jerry. Look, Troy Aikman
Speaker 3: did not like Chang Gayla. But you didn't hear troyan
Speaker 3: shooting a blasting Chan Gailey out front. He never said it.
Speaker 3: He said it behind the scenes. All players have certain issues.
Speaker 3: And by the way, what you said about Michael Parsons, Mike,
Speaker 3: he tried to clean it up and he said, Man,
Speaker 3: I didn't speak properly about Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2: But he's just emotional.
Speaker 3: But he said, I was emotional, But I but I
Speaker 3: do take Mike at his word as he had time
Speaker 3: to sit about his broadcast and then when he's talking
Speaker 3: to the media guys and there, I didn't meet it
Speaker 3: in that fast because I'm a player's guy, because I
Speaker 3: believe in the players, and it's about the players and
Speaker 3: not coach players.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the players.
Speaker 5: Could he have said, you know, it's above my pay grade,
Speaker 5: that's not mine. I don't know that he could have
Speaker 5: said that. He could have, but I guess what you
Speaker 5: just said.
Speaker 6: Do you believe that what Dak is saying lacks sincerity
Speaker 6: from his point of view as a quarterback, or you
Speaker 6: think that he's towing the line as the company man
Speaker 6: face of the franchise. That's what he's supposed to say.
Speaker 6: It's on brand with what Dak says when he does
Speaker 6: that number one.
Speaker 2: On brand.
Speaker 3: But dude, I mean, heckman, if you were my coach
Speaker 3: and you helped me get get me sixty million dollars,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit up here and cut for you.
Speaker 6: Okay, But in the same breath to say that you
Speaker 6: say that, can it be a working relationship between them
Speaker 6: two and Dak saying basically, this offense works for me
Speaker 6: because this last season we can go all we can
Speaker 6: go off of is what happened last season to get
Speaker 6: you in position to get that contract.
Speaker 2: So I guess we're the mixed messages.
Speaker 7: For me.
Speaker 6: Kind of confusing is when Dak says something to endorse,
Speaker 6: Mike is like, Oh, that's that's just Dak. That's just Dak.
Speaker 6: Dak says all the right things, but he can't just
Speaker 6: come out and say that's my man, Like, let's let's
Speaker 6: give him more to be successful with. When everybody at
Speaker 6: the beginning of the season was talking about the talent
Speaker 6: of this roster and feeling like Mike was being set
Speaker 6: up to fail. But you don't feel like that anymore
Speaker 6: because it's like, we just move on to do something different.
Speaker 6: The disrespect of Mike McCarthy from the beginning of the
Speaker 6: season to where we are right now is epic for
Speaker 6: the people, for the people that won't step out of
Speaker 6: line and say, have you ever seen a guy be
Speaker 6: stripped down?
Speaker 2: You know what's worrying about. Have you ever seen a.
Speaker 6: Guy be stripped down the way that he was from
Speaker 6: talent on this roster that might go into the front office. No,
Speaker 6: go into Jerry's office and say, hey Jerry, we need Sakwan.
Speaker 6: Hey hey Jered, I need to get Derrick Henry. Now
Speaker 6: we're gonna get your Zeke. Right. Don't come on, I
Speaker 6: don't mean it like that.
Speaker 2: I don't mean it like that. I don't mean it
Speaker 2: like that. I don't mean it like that. I don't
Speaker 2: mean it like that, guys, because what I'm talking about,
Speaker 2: NA what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Because what I'm saying those things were feel there for Mike,
Speaker 6: just like when he got the John Kellen Moore was
Speaker 6: a part of the furniture. When he got there, he
Speaker 6: didn't pick his own oc and look, and jokingly, I say,
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy is the perfect middle man, the perfect middle
Speaker 6: man because of what he was groomed to be in
Speaker 6: Green Bay. He didn't pick his own groceries in Green Bay.
Speaker 6: He had to deal with what he had at Green Bay.
Speaker 6: Would tell for Ted.
Speaker 2: Thompson that was the same book that was written for
Speaker 2: him there.
Speaker 6: So look, my thing is this when Dak comes out
Speaker 6: and says that this is my guy and he endorses him.
Speaker 6: I think he's talking from like he's being sincere, he's
Speaker 6: being serious when he says that that that's my guy.
Speaker 6: I would like to hit for him to get the
Speaker 6: opportunity to stack the coupboard, to make some picks, you know,
Speaker 6: maybe bring in some coaches, do something different with this
Speaker 6: roster that wasn't presented to him when he started.
Speaker 3: Now to further to what you said, he's always been
Speaker 3: consistent about Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's always been consistent. I like Mike. That's Mike.
Speaker 2: He's always been consistent there.
Speaker 3: But I'm just when asked the question, I just truly
Speaker 3: there's no there's no other lane to go down.
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying I don't believe him.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, Dak Prescott, that's the only
Speaker 3: lane you can go down right now, the only and
Speaker 3: you do, in my opinion, you do. Oh that man
Speaker 3: the cut for him. From the standpoint we you went
Speaker 3: from being a dude who led league and picks to
Speaker 3: a dude who led league and touchdown passes, made second
Speaker 3: team ball Pro, and you got to contract me the
Speaker 3: highest dude around. I would like to think that you
Speaker 3: no matter how you felt, hey, man, let me, let
Speaker 3: me try to.
Speaker 2: Help you get your bag.
Speaker 3: He's got very little juice in terms of what Jerry's
Speaker 3: gonna do. Jerry's gonna do what Jerry wants to do
Speaker 3: because he's the owner in the general manager.
Speaker 2: He always does. Dak has, Yeah, Dak has Jared, Jerry'll
Speaker 2: take his opinion. Hey what did you say that? What?
Speaker 3: Jerry's always taking opinions. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: Jerry's gonna do He's gonna do. And as we've kind
Speaker 3: of talked about on this show, if you bring Mike
Speaker 3: McCarthy back, it's going to.
Speaker 2: Be for multiple years. Yes, it will.
Speaker 3: That dude's not coming back on a one year two
Speaker 3: years like like some franchise tad.
Speaker 2: We're gonna franchise and.
Speaker 3: Coach running back and that that is how we how
Speaker 3: the Cowboys in the season. I've said this consistently people
Speaker 3: and all of us have had our friends say what
Speaker 3: do you think will happen? I said, how the season
Speaker 3: ends will determine what Jerry does. Either way, whether your
Speaker 3: last two games are against Philadelphia Washington, how do you
Speaker 3: end the year, It's gonna be dictated on what he does.
Speaker 6: Wow, so I mean, you're still like, there's still more
Speaker 6: runway for Mike Ford imminently for a decision to be
Speaker 6: made as to whether he's retained.
Speaker 2: Both ways, really both of Jerry's emotional.
Speaker 6: So we get this emotional because we wouldn't even entertain
Speaker 6: this conversation, like you were just saying, two weeks ago,
Speaker 6: it wasn't even a conversation to be entertained. But now
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, you listen to prescottin hear what
Speaker 6: he's saying. He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: It was funny because Clarence Clarence when we're talking to
Speaker 3: meet him, but she said if they went Monday night,
Speaker 3: he said, Jerry gonna come out there proud of the peacock.
Speaker 2: You all you all wrote a song you are I mean,
Speaker 2: And that's that's Jerry. He can ama.
Speaker 3: As many times as I thought Jason Garrett was gonna
Speaker 3: get walked to the gallows, he kept coming back.
Speaker 8: This dude like resputing and Jerry kept saving it, and
Speaker 8: I thought, hey, hey, what what's that?
Speaker 2: But what is this again?
Speaker 3: So could he do that same Jason Garrett Thattrick Drake
Speaker 3: and make it it was really you?
Speaker 6: That's a hell of a s you you you said, Zeke,
Speaker 6: we ended up w Rico.
Speaker 2: Cooper Rush one three game wish. I mean, dude, there's
Speaker 2: a way.
Speaker 3: That there is a way that I could conceivably see Mike,
Speaker 3: because you heard Jerry's the rails with super Bowl winning coach.
Speaker 3: I can see him that whole He even he shoot
Speaker 3: himself for Jared, Get Jerry, get Hie's own product too.
Speaker 6: Now the pack here you on his own product too?
Speaker 6: Oh my god, what Biggie said? So heck, that's why
Speaker 6: I say.
Speaker 2: I've told.
Speaker 3: Are they losing an embarrassing fashion towards the end? Then
Speaker 3: that could be that could be like, hey, man, I
Speaker 3: can't do it, and then the fan like I ain't
Speaker 3: buying it no more.
Speaker 2: Or if they go at the end, I see see.
Speaker 5: Man, they're gonna play against the Philly team, rest in
Speaker 5: the starters and then.
Speaker 2: Who knows what the commanders and who knows who knows?
Speaker 2: I just wow, they gonna run it back another four.
Speaker 3: Now you need to beat Joe Burrow on Monday, which
Speaker 3: you need to do that.
Speaker 2: Vegas got your six point dog.
Speaker 3: But Jerry, Jerry, Jerry is an emotional guy, man, I'm
Speaker 3: telling you dude, I'd have bet twice. I'd have bet.
Speaker 3: I'd have bet big money. Gone Like, do you know
Speaker 3: how they do? Those? Those those you can bet on
Speaker 3: the odds as we get odds on the man, I
Speaker 3: don't bet, but why the stacks on it? But he can't,
Speaker 3: he can't say eight and eight again, you're no there
Speaker 3: he is backprint t shirts.
Speaker 2: This is wow.
Speaker 6: That crazy thing about it is two weeks ago. I
Speaker 6: thought it was a far gone conclusion and nobody was
Speaker 6: even even when you want to entertain it, have a
Speaker 6: conversation about it.
Speaker 2: Now not gonna happen.
Speaker 6: And and most of the time in this in this arena,
Speaker 6: when somebody's dug in media wise on the subject, it's
Speaker 6: because they have first head knowledge.
Speaker 2: They got first head knowledge.
Speaker 6: So you can waste your time with that all you
Speaker 6: want to, because we know now everybody's back to square
Speaker 6: one on this, whether you bring him back or not.
Speaker 6: And I'm I'm shocked, confused, I'm shocked because that's.
Speaker 3: Okay, So here it is. Now here comes Michael Parson's back.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, you see Michael making a different Cooks catches
Speaker 3: a touchdown. Bland is back playing good your beat. Washington
Speaker 3: those kind of when you're an emotional guy like Jerry, who, by.
Speaker 2: The way, doesn't like change. Jason Garrett proved it didn't
Speaker 2: like change man, and.
Speaker 3: Then the way he flipped it here got on that
Speaker 3: wind streak he got.
Speaker 6: So you get on the wind streak because you get
Speaker 6: guys back healthy your team, you have guys coming back
Speaker 6: to certa.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at what Deron Bland.
Speaker 6: Has done since he's been back, even in the Washington game,
Speaker 6: if he didn't have a pick or any of that,
Speaker 6: the way that he impacked that game, they didn't even
Speaker 6: throw over there. This last game against the Giants, the
Speaker 6: same thing. What the Bengals are gonna do? I think
Speaker 6: I'm very curious to know, because I know Joe Burrow
Speaker 6: is gonna test him. He gonna go at him because
Speaker 6: he doesn't duck anybody. But if he goes over there
Speaker 6: and he gets picked off, he ain't going back.
Speaker 2: So he ain't going back.
Speaker 6: But you've gotten guys back healthy and your team looks different.
Speaker 6: You've allowed for Zach Martin to go and get health
Speaker 6: and oh, by the way, the piece that you brought
Speaker 6: in is actually contributing to your offensive line.
Speaker 3: To stay there hacking if you are Mike McCarthy and
Speaker 3: it's you and Jerry that office up there, maybe I'm
Speaker 3: bringing all that up there. Hey, you saw what happened
Speaker 3: when I got my people back a little bit. I
Speaker 3: deserve another shot, Jerry, if you're honest with yourself, did
Speaker 3: you really help me on another floor?
Speaker 2: Did you help You sold me on Zeke you sold it.
Speaker 2: I need it.
Speaker 3: I needed Derek hen, I need a I mean you
Speaker 3: just if you get in there and you catch your
Speaker 3: mighty everybody can be twisted.
Speaker 2: Everybody.
Speaker 3: Jason Garrett made it, made a tradition like no other.
Speaker 8: I just how many, how many, how many? Remember how
Speaker 8: many assistant coaches Jason went through, kept.
Speaker 3: Going through that. That means you was up there with Jerry.
Speaker 3: You was spinning, he was resputing, and you look at
Speaker 3: that magic trick. It was it was him, you know,
Speaker 3: I just man.
Speaker 2: You know so so could that happen? It could.
Speaker 3: We got to see how December goes. But don't be
Speaker 3: shot because he's.
Speaker 2: On the radio. He's already laying the groundwork. If he
Speaker 2: wanted to bring it back, he could.
Speaker 6: May want to say that Jerry says, don't believe nothing
Speaker 6: that I said.
Speaker 2: Just as I said, it doesn't.
Speaker 5: Just go back to something you had said back in
Speaker 5: like I don't know March or whatever when you were talking.
Speaker 2: I believe it was Todd Archer.
Speaker 5: He told you the reason McCarthy was brought in here
Speaker 5: was to get past what Jason Carrey couldn't do, which
Speaker 5: was get pasted at the divisional round. Yes, and the
Speaker 5: man has plenty of opportunities. He had his players all pros,
Speaker 5: the most all pros on any team. I believe it
Speaker 5: was like the past two years or something like that,
Speaker 5: and he hasn't been able to get past that level.
Speaker 5: And now it's just wild to me that he could
Speaker 5: go out there and maybe don't go eight nine or
Speaker 5: finish above five hundred.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I missed the place.
Speaker 3: Wow, you know what in the contract get you know
Speaker 3: the hardest thing to do is to put your pet down?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what the hardest thing to put your pet down?
Speaker 2: That's wow.
Speaker 3: Jerry becomes close with these coaches, man, and in my
Speaker 3: time of covering, it's hard. It's hard for Jerry to
Speaker 3: go ahead and old Jason out.
Speaker 2: There the gallows. What an analogy.
Speaker 3: He's still crying about Wavefields.
Speaker 2: I wish I wanted to say to the gallows. I
Speaker 2: still regret that man. This man still tell you how
Speaker 2: he died. I made a mistake. I was I had
Speaker 2: have done it. Then he crying up there, all staying
Speaker 2: about Jimmy. I don't know why up. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: so so I'm telling you, man, Jerry showing you man,
Speaker 2: he can't put that dog down. That's Marry.
Speaker 6: You feel like you honestly feel like we're for you.
Speaker 6: When you look at the landscape of NFL coaches, you're
Speaker 6: saying change is imminent.
Speaker 2: I would have assumed, okay, But the way around, that's true.
Speaker 5: They did switch him up, like the trumped the switch
Speaker 5: him up quick.
Speaker 2: When the AFC champions, that man was fired.
Speaker 6: I mean, but none of those other things, None of
Speaker 6: those twelve and five seasons mean anything to you. None
Speaker 6: of the injuries at any point does that mean? But
Speaker 6: then I go back to what knew.
Speaker 2: He was telling me. Yeah, like that's why you were
Speaker 2: bought in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like regular season cool. You were brought here to
Speaker 5: take this team to the next level. Get past the
Speaker 5: division I ain't even talking about super Bowl. Just get
Speaker 5: past the divisional that's what you were brought here to do.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's what he was brought and he has
Speaker 5: yet to be able to do that. I understand this
Speaker 5: year a lot of injuries, but the previous three twelve
Speaker 5: and five, twelve and five twelve and five. What happens
Speaker 5: in the playoffs? So and it ain't like the playoffs
Speaker 5: close win here and there and last and last January
Speaker 5: would have been the time to do it if you
Speaker 5: wanted to hold defeat.
Speaker 2: I say, hey, man, you know what brought you in
Speaker 2: to go better?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 5: Now we got blued outload out. The youngest team in
Speaker 5: the league, blu I came in here and blew out.
Speaker 3: But he said, running back, he didn't know, no contract
Speaker 3: for you, no contract for this that he didn't give
Speaker 3: him all the help that he could have given him.
Speaker 3: So does he have guilt? Does he say, man, you
Speaker 3: came up at the end, he did this with that
Speaker 3: part of it?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: The youngest team in the league came in here and
Speaker 6: they because what your achilles here was was what they had.
Speaker 6: They had a running game that they could come in
Speaker 6: and everybody that you lost to last season had one
Speaker 6: thing in common. They could run the ball on you,
Speaker 6: and they did it religiously. And they came into this
Speaker 6: season doing the same thing that just changed about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they just passed the blueprint and here
Speaker 2: you go, here you got it.
Speaker 7: Run.
Speaker 3: They can't run on me. I mean that's how everybody
Speaker 3: just passed the blueprint around. So but really I do
Speaker 3: believe it's it's we gotta play out. I know it's
Speaker 3: a thing I said before, But we gotta let it
Speaker 3: play out because how it plays out will determine.
Speaker 2: I know for a fact, Jerry ticked off. He should
Speaker 2: have been. He should have been he should have tore
Speaker 2: up that whole suite that was that bad.
Speaker 3: And somewhere along the way he got talked down, talk down,
Speaker 3: let his anger.
Speaker 2: See he thought he was going to strip everything down
Speaker 2: after that.
Speaker 3: It felt that way from talking to some folks in
Speaker 3: the building about look where he was not but this
Speaker 3: is what he did.
Speaker 2: So I said, got to see what happens in December.
Speaker 3: See what hey, Look, if it's a losing December, then
Speaker 3: then Mike's chances to stand here don't look good. If
Speaker 3: somehow they have a winning December and it gets the game,
Speaker 3: oh man could could if I had this and had it,
Speaker 3: he could because I saw him do with Jason if
Speaker 3: Cooper Rush goes out there and beats Joe Burrow, but.
Speaker 2: Cooper Rush has already beat Joe Burrow before.
Speaker 3: Come on we talk.
Speaker 2: I heard you said it on the show.
Speaker 3: It's so many ways because that's where it comes. And
Speaker 3: a man's like, the coach is gonna be held accountable.
Speaker 3: Then a man say it just because I say it,
Speaker 3: don't make it.
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Speaker 2: The player is loud.
Speaker 3: Okay, a lot of free agents, but the Cowboys after
Speaker 3: the season, I mean a lot a lot of dudes.
Speaker 2: Free free the question.
Speaker 3: So, for the purpose of this exercise, I'm going to ask,
Speaker 3: who's one free agent you want back? Who's a free
Speaker 3: agent they cannot let get out of the building. Who's
Speaker 3: somebody that you say, man, we may even throw the
Speaker 3: tag on it because we cannot let the person get out.
Speaker 2: Of the building. Yes, yes, yes, you got to give
Speaker 2: me some names because I don't.
Speaker 3: I'll give you a name. Okay, a guy I cannot
Speaker 3: let get out of the buildings. Jordan Lewis, cornerback in
Speaker 3: this league. He's a good, good slot guy. You just
Speaker 3: can't have enough corners. Can have enough corners, like you
Speaker 3: can't have enough pictures in baseball. You need them. And
Speaker 3: in this division, division where they got some players and
Speaker 3: they're going to keep getting them. And this is a
Speaker 3: division where I got Jay Daniels quarterback of Washington, who
Speaker 3: knows who the Giants school get? And I got a
Speaker 3: Super Bowl quarterback in Jalen Hurts, who's got some weapons.
Speaker 3: I need corners. So Bland is coming back, He'll go
Speaker 3: into the final year of free agency for him. Diggs
Speaker 3: is coming back. Both gentlemen have had injuries. I want
Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis back if I'm the Capitals.
Speaker 2: I mean, here's Coop that left free agent, Trey Lance free.
Speaker 2: Give me Coop. Give me Coop back.
Speaker 5: Give me Coop back on a similar deal. You understand
Speaker 5: what he brings to the table. You know, if you
Speaker 5: have your whole onslaught of players and it was just
Speaker 5: Prescott that had missed, I'm sure this team would be
Speaker 5: a lot better as well, because we saw what Cooper
Speaker 5: Rush could do when he had his full onslaught of players.
Speaker 5: Four and one out there, all right, So give me
Speaker 5: Cooper Rush back. Brand what's his name? Anger the punter? Right,
Speaker 5: bring that man back too, for sure? That man is
Speaker 5: a Coffin corner specialist, flips the field. You got one
Speaker 5: of the best kicking units in the National Football League
Speaker 5: when you talk about Aubrey, when you talk about the
Speaker 5: kicker as well, bring us that group back, all right?
Speaker 2: That those are two for me? Off the rip. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure about Ole Diggiz.
Speaker 6: Damn Manure because a controversy.
Speaker 5: He's one of these guys that you know. Towards the
Speaker 5: latter part of the season, he's starting to come alive
Speaker 5: a little bit. He's starting to make some plays in there.
Speaker 5: But is he a flash player or is he consistent?
Speaker 5: Can he be a consistent dominant guy in the trenches.
Speaker 5: We've seen flashes where he can go in there. Man,
Speaker 5: he's look good, ninety seven look good. But then we
Speaker 5: also seen games where he gets put out the club.
Speaker 6: So about value, no white teas, but we've seen those
Speaker 6: type of instances.
Speaker 2: Club.
Speaker 5: We've seen that, but we've also seen him be dominant
Speaker 5: in specific games Washington, New York to come to mind,
Speaker 5: he passed two games. So I'm not so sure on
Speaker 5: Diggizu up. But bring me to punt him and bring
Speaker 5: me back up. A matter of fact, it's Hoffman up
Speaker 5: so on too.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, I gotta have him, better to have him. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm taking them off. Took them off.
Speaker 3: There's one hanging out there that I didn't mention, but
Speaker 3: I had to pick once. I went with Lewis. But
Speaker 3: I got my number. I got my number two sitting
Speaker 3: up been here right now.
Speaker 2: So who is your number two?
Speaker 3: Cavante Turpin? Yeah, he's going to make the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3: He's a difference maker. I am one of those people
Speaker 3: that believes that three the three phases mattering games. And
Speaker 3: Cavante Turpin is a guy that I know Bill Belichick
Speaker 3: has a high regard for and Bones Fossil has a
Speaker 3: high regard for. I still believe they haven't gotten enough
Speaker 3: usage out of him from an offensive standpoint.
Speaker 2: I've seen it.
Speaker 3: So to me, I look at uh Cavante Turpin is
Speaker 3: being a key piece that they need to expand his.
Speaker 6: Game, not one of the poke holes in what you
Speaker 6: guys are saying, but just looking at Jordan Lewis, I
Speaker 6: believe Jordan Lewis had a great year, has had great
Speaker 6: years where he's been a guy that stayed healthy when
Speaker 6: he when healthy, He's been tough for you as a nickel.
Speaker 6: It's hard to find Nichols as you've talked about in
Speaker 6: the NFL, but you've also seen where they've been able
Speaker 6: to develop guys. He saw Josh Butler who just with
Speaker 6: the ACL deal, what type of comeback can he make?
Speaker 6: Kayln Carson hadn't had his best performance with the other
Speaker 6: b kem On Hall, Guys like that that have come
Speaker 6: on that you believe in in that cornerback room as well.
Speaker 2: Al Harris has brought some guys on.
Speaker 6: I believe that when you look at d ron Bland,
Speaker 6: even though he's been great as an outside corner, one
Speaker 6: of the things that makes him so versatile is his
Speaker 6: ability to drop down in a nickel. So I mean
Speaker 6: you still have a little leeway there when you start
Speaker 6: talking about Jordan Lewis and whether you I don't think
Speaker 6: you tag him by any means or anything like that,
Speaker 6: But I'm just saying like his value may be in
Speaker 6: development of some of your other guys.
Speaker 2: I like j Lou.
Speaker 6: Okay, let me just go ahead and say that Cavante Turpin, look,
Speaker 6: I think for him as a special teams gadget guy.
Speaker 2: For me, I love what he's doing.
Speaker 6: There are a lot of people out there that think
Speaker 6: that he needs to be into the passing game a
Speaker 6: lot more. Okay, okay, but see, we know that, we
Speaker 6: know that there's a lot of people that don't know that, right,
Speaker 6: So that's where I'm at. But Osa Diggy Zoolo, for me,
Speaker 6: is the one guy that I'm saying to myself, I
Speaker 6: got I believe you can get me more. You're not
Speaker 6: as enigmatic as they're trying to make you out to be.
Speaker 6: I think you can honestly be a guy. How many
Speaker 6: good three techs? I mean, then that's not a lot
Speaker 6: of them in the league anymore. And with the Cowboys,
Speaker 6: you question that even in this draft because they need
Speaker 6: a three technique bad. I don't care who they keep
Speaker 6: free agent wise, I don't care who they let go.
Speaker 6: They got to go into this draft and get a
Speaker 6: three technique. You gotta get a defensive tackle. Hell, you
Speaker 6: got to get a one a one tech two, right,
Speaker 6: So all you gotta all of those things. But you know,
Speaker 6: and there are a lot of people that say, oh, man,
Speaker 6: the Cowboys keep winning. Man, you're dropping down in the draft.
Speaker 6: I don't care what whatever you do in this draft.
Speaker 6: You got to go and get the best defensive lineman
Speaker 6: that they have and also the best offensive lineman in
Speaker 6: those later hands down, you gotta find it. You can
Speaker 6: talk to about wide receives. You can give me offensive
Speaker 6: and defensive lineman in this.
Speaker 2: Draft, y'all y'all bringing d Law back? No, No, I
Speaker 2: can't do. Kendricks can't do. Who's your coaching staff? That's true?
Speaker 3: What defense are you running? I mean that's that that
Speaker 3: would go to my same thing about a OSA. What's
Speaker 3: my defense? Who's my defensive coordinator? That that's going to
Speaker 3: be a play play part there. I'm not with Jorge Lewis.
Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis has shown you he can play any defenses
Speaker 3: he's been here and by the way, guard slots in
Speaker 3: this league, you need that. But the talking about the deal,
Speaker 3: I'm with you one hundred. This has been a problem
Speaker 3: for this team for the last four years. They have
Speaker 3: not addressed it enough in my opinion. But where does
Speaker 3: also Adiggy Zoo fall in the from agent mark? Is
Speaker 3: he gonna cost you a lot of money? Is he
Speaker 3: get to the point where you look last year with
Speaker 3: Arms with Armstrong, you like the player, but Washington came
Speaker 3: with a good dollar number, or even be otish. You
Speaker 3: like the player, but you ain't like him at ten million?
Speaker 3: How is Osa out there? What's your comfortability level when
Speaker 3: you say, hey, man, am I better off trying to
Speaker 3: load up here with a couple of guys or do
Speaker 3: I go there? I mean that that to me is
Speaker 3: the because he's, like you said, he's got some talent.
Speaker 3: Somebody would we be shocked if he went somewhere else
Speaker 3: and was able to make some plays. And I'm not
Speaker 3: When I look at sa Quan you say, look at
Speaker 3: what this man could do with a healthy offensive line
Speaker 3: and some other weapons around him, where they just kept
Speaker 3: circle on him. What if you put Osa on a
Speaker 3: line where there's some more There's more Pro Bowl talent
Speaker 3: right there on that d at the detacle position.
Speaker 6: That one technique has to be double team. You have
Speaker 6: to make sure this guy is not disrupted so that
Speaker 6: frees him up on the one on one. But that's
Speaker 6: the same argument that you get for Michael Parsons, because
Speaker 6: that's what defenses have to do. I'm looking, here's the thing.
Speaker 6: If Olsa outprices himself, I thank him for services. We
Speaker 6: don't fight, okay, because what I gotta do anyway is
Speaker 6: in undrafted free agents. I got to bring in defensive tackles.
Speaker 6: He's going to be competing anyway when he comes back,
Speaker 6: all right. So that's what I'm saying. And I want
Speaker 6: to take back what I said about Eric Kendrick because
Speaker 6: I feel like he's one of those pieces for the
Speaker 6: young guys. You see the influence that he's had on Overshaw.
Speaker 6: You see the influence that he's having on marsh Leo file. Like,
Speaker 6: you talk about guys that when you were coming into
Speaker 6: the league that were impressions on you. And I don't
Speaker 6: think what he does as a middle linebacker stopping those
Speaker 6: guys from getting reps. So as long as he's not
Speaker 6: doing that, I'm okay with bringing him back. You know
Speaker 6: that when he comes back, he's gonna have some durability issues.
Speaker 6: He's gonna miss about three games out of the season.
Speaker 6: You can live with that.
Speaker 3: That's one of those where I go to what's my
Speaker 3: coordinator on like when DQ has certain kind of guys
Speaker 3: he wanted, Zim has certain kind of guys you wanted.
Speaker 3: That's to be where Eric Kendricks falls into it. I
Speaker 3: got to see who's my who's my coordinator, and what's
Speaker 3: his comfortability level. Can remember at the end of Greg
Speaker 3: Ellis's career and Zim was coordinator, Zim loved Greg because
Speaker 3: you're like, you know what, he's dependable, I know what
Speaker 3: he's going to do. And I think Kendrick is the
Speaker 3: same way for a guy like Zim, right, he knows
Speaker 3: you know, Zim likes guys like that. So if Zimmer's
Speaker 3: back here, then yeah, you want to entertain having Kendricks back,
Speaker 3: But if he's not, then maybe he doesn't fit.
Speaker 2: That's true, and.
Speaker 3: That's that's that's that whole dichotomy is some of these
Speaker 3: some of these players, how do they fit in your skime?
Speaker 3: But for me, Lewis can play for anybody. He can,
Speaker 3: he could put Turpin can play for anybody. You know,
Speaker 3: those kind of guys right there helping him fit. But yeah,
Speaker 3: price is always this crazy thing when you talk about
Speaker 3: free agency. And I mean, dude, I like Byron Jones,
Speaker 3: but when he got that contract for the dollars, you
Speaker 3: can't you can't mass.
Speaker 2: That price yourself out right right there. You go, Come up,
Speaker 2: you're not a ten million dollar player.
Speaker 3: Now he's been a ten million dollar to play for
Speaker 3: one Washington, but he wasn't a ten million dollar player here.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get our final break in here. This
Speaker 3: guy we were talking about as a bust.
Speaker 2: Is he off the bus list?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I think it is.
Speaker 2: I think it is. We gotta come back in place
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Speaker 2: So this player was trending on the bus list.
Speaker 3: You're like bus bus el bustos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who you got, man?
Speaker 3: But the past three games, the past three games, man
Speaker 3: tighty and Luke's schoonmaker, not a bust. Go back to
Speaker 3: the Houston game three weeks ago, Withers went out six
Speaker 3: catches fifty six yards Washington three catches fifty five yards
Speaker 3: and a touchdown. And then last week against the Giants
Speaker 3: on Thanksgiving Day, five catches thirty three.
Speaker 6: She was about to jump out. Nobody you ragged off.
Speaker 2: Special Michigan man. Look school Maker he had in the
Speaker 2: first half.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie you all right, Look Schoolmaker, I mean,
Speaker 3: what was schooning not looking like a bus.
Speaker 2: He he was in line.
Speaker 6: He was in line for that and especially the production
Speaker 6: at the beginning of the season when y'all were talking
Speaker 6: about him in his reps that he's got. I mean,
Speaker 6: what's my man spanan Ford spa forward? He did jump
Speaker 6: right over that man. I mean, it was happening. And
Speaker 6: then that's how it happened. You get your opportunities. Guys
Speaker 6: go down, another guy gets an opportunity to step up.
Speaker 6: Schoolmakers made the best of this opportunity. Blocking wise, catching wise,
Speaker 6: I mean he's fieled it nicely and nah man not
Speaker 6: looking so bustish.
Speaker 2: He ain't looking buzzes.
Speaker 5: Because when you look at the tape and look at
Speaker 5: these past games that Ferguson has missed, this offense has
Speaker 5: a missed be and it's actually gotten an uptick from
Speaker 5: the tight end position when you talk about what Schoolmaker's
Speaker 5: been able to do in the pass game. So to me,
Speaker 5: the one area that was a concern to him was
Speaker 5: his ability to block, and he's gotten better at that.
Speaker 2: You've seen the runs that Rico Doddald's been able to produce.
Speaker 5: He's been a part of that officive line blocking, so
Speaker 5: he's taking the most of his opportunities.
Speaker 2: And to me, this is why I.
Speaker 5: Never won to miss game, not one game, because Kyle
Speaker 5: never could be confusing that this is a business at
Speaker 5: the end of the day, and you might be cool
Speaker 5: with everybody in the locker room, that might be a
Speaker 5: boy over there, but I'm not about to give you
Speaker 5: a chance to slide up on what I already got.
Speaker 5: And that that has been my mindset from the beginning,
Speaker 5: like we're all cool, we're going for the same goal.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I got to
Speaker 2: put food on my plate.
Speaker 5: So I never wanted to miss an opportunity, whether it's practice,
Speaker 5: especially being undrafted, whether it's practice, whether it's in the
Speaker 5: meeting room.
Speaker 6: I was not missing nothing. How did you get put
Speaker 6: on the exactly somebody missed? Somebody missed My guy, Pat
Speaker 6: Watkins was here.
Speaker 5: He missed all of ot That was my guy, one
Speaker 5: of the leaders in the safety room. But he missed
Speaker 5: all OTA's missed, you know, half a training camp. I
Speaker 5: slid in there and these couple of reps got a
Speaker 5: couple of players. Next thing you know, they rotating. It
Speaker 5: went on from there. But telling you a Matt, you know,
Speaker 5: you don't want to miss an opportunity out here, especially
Speaker 5: when you got a young, hungry guy underneath you.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 3: So Bill Parcells had the great line, you don't leave
Speaker 3: a huddle because you don't know who's coming.
Speaker 5: In fact, all church you want to breathe, No, I
Speaker 5: ain't going nowhere went out.
Speaker 2: Some guy named Brady Winning.
Speaker 3: Never seen him, Drew Bledsoe went out Romo Winning, never
Speaker 3: seen anything, turned in retirement papers and got got.
Speaker 2: The wine business. Tony went out, Yeah, that's that's the business.
Speaker 2: Keen Kellen went out and that yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, this this, this is this is the business.
Speaker 2: This is the business.
Speaker 3: But Jake Ferguson, Uh McCarthy spoke earlier in the week said,
Speaker 3: you know what, he looks good.
Speaker 2: He's McCarthy.
Speaker 3: And I asked the question about Schooney and he said,
Speaker 3: schoolmaker does all the work. He's like, he comes in early,
Speaker 3: he's in the films. He says, he does the work.
Speaker 2: So for him.
Speaker 3: He said it was really a matter of all of
Speaker 3: the work he's been doing and then finally getting the result.
Speaker 3: Kind of like you go to the gym and you
Speaker 3: think you don't se any results and things are going away,
Speaker 3: and then one day, boom, there's exponential go bamu there.
Speaker 2: So Schooney.
Speaker 3: Scooney is no longer my opinion, the bust that he
Speaker 3: was looking in trending would be.
Speaker 6: Crazy for a guy to be on the brink and
Speaker 6: he have a bad attitude and not be the guy
Speaker 6: that's working as hard as the next guy, and then
Speaker 6: he get the opportunity and he's not ready for how
Speaker 6: many times have you seen that happen in sports? Guy
Speaker 6: sitting there pouting about his opportunities and his reps, and
Speaker 6: then he gets an opportunity, doesn't take advantage of him.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, you've seen it. You've seen it happen
Speaker 6: to a lot of guys. And Schoolmaker again, he could
Speaker 6: have been making waves in the media. I know he
Speaker 6: doesn't seem like that kind of personality as a person anyway,
Speaker 6: but still staying patient, waiting for his moment, not even
Speaker 6: listening to the naysayers, and right now even Jake Ferguson,
Speaker 6: he's coming back from a concussion.
Speaker 2: He's you need him.
Speaker 6: Even with the successes you had these last couple of games,
Speaker 6: I think this wide receiver group you still need somebody.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 6: You're still not getting the production that you need out there.
Speaker 6: And I'm telling you, if I'm Cooper, if I'm rush like,
Speaker 6: bring Ferguson back asap. I know the rest of these
Speaker 6: guys are good, but what you get from Ferguson is
Speaker 6: a lot more than what you get from Luke Schoolmaker.
Speaker 6: And I mean it's just apparent in the production. Okay,
Speaker 6: Ferguson hasn't half the year that that we wanted him
Speaker 6: to have. Okay, no, no, no, come on, come on.
Speaker 3: That's to tell you he's gonna be. I got, I got,
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's tough, right, tough.
Speaker 3: So we got to get the port.
Speaker 6: I said, whoa hold on, hold on that ship. That's
Speaker 6: that's jumping out the cake. I did that. I did that.
Speaker 6: Come on, come on, Jake, come on, Jake.
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