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Speaker 5: Of course, the same thing with college basketball. You know

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Speaker 2: You know. So that's just bandwaggony.

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Speaker 5: But now I'm gonna check a game out like in person.

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Speaker 5: I'll go, you know, regular season, go check one out.

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Speaker 5: But I'm not sitting there just checking it out. Less

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Speaker 3: Lots of ways we can go here with the show.

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Speaker 3: But I thought Dak Prescott had a pretty interesting comment.

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Speaker 3: Jory Epstein or you should be Dallas Morning News and

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Speaker 3: the Yahoo Sports. So Jory's about with Dak Prescott. Dak

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Speaker 3: Prescott came out in favor of Mike McCarthy being back

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Speaker 3: as the head coach.

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Speaker 2: Fresh Batch delivered, how do we see it?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 5: Man, Well, obviously, Prescott's you know, input on this is

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Speaker 5: gonna be huge, you know, easier quarterback for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 5: So his input or input on who's going to coach

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Speaker 5: his team, and you gotta take it, you know, you

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Speaker 5: gotta take that input from him. But to me, it's tough, man,

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Speaker 5: because just a couple of weeks ago, you know, before

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Speaker 5: this mini win streak was going on, you had players

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Speaker 5: talking about the head coach, talking about the work he

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Speaker 5: puts in. Yeah, your head defensive player, maybe the best

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Speaker 5: player on your team, was talking about the work ethic

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Speaker 5: of a one Mike McCarthy. Then you go on the

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Speaker 5: offensive side of the football, your best player so far

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Speaker 5: the season on the offensive side of the football, a

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Speaker 5: least the skilled position wise, City Lamb talking about your

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Speaker 5: creativity and how does you know this offense seeming stagnant.

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Speaker 5: So you had two of your best players out there

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Speaker 5: talking about the head coach, and then you go on

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Speaker 5: a mini win streak and then everything is all good again,

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Speaker 5: and you know, we want the guy back.

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Speaker 2: And I understand, you know, Dak got love for the.

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Speaker 5: Head coach and if he wants them to stay, that's

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Speaker 5: a big that's a big time endorsement. But I don't know,

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Speaker 5: as soon as you're losing another game, is somebody else

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Speaker 5: gonna come out and say something about Mike. Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: then and then we back to square one. So that's

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Speaker 5: a huge endorsement from your from your quarterbacks. He's the

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Speaker 5: leader of this team, and he's gonna be there for

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Speaker 5: the foreseeable future. But I think you gotta, you know,

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Speaker 5: put all things into account before you go ahead and

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Speaker 5: sign Big Mike back.

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Speaker 2: No y'all want to hear what you got to say?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, spot, I think that Dak Prescott has always been

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Speaker 3: from a political standpoint, and so whatever you say, it's

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Speaker 3: used against you, right, which said can he use against you?

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Speaker 3: So you come out, first off, Mike helped you get

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Speaker 3: a sixty million dollar year contry. He did not come

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Speaker 3: do that, Okay, So so you owe him that a

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Speaker 3: little bit of gratitude. But if you have any questions

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Speaker 3: not something you take public because he's got the back

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Speaker 3: what he did. I'm not saying I would believe him,

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Speaker 3: but that's what you're supposed to do as the leader

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Speaker 3: Whatever Jerry does. You know, Jerry gonna call you anyway.

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Speaker 3: Jerry's not going to Jerry's not going to hire anybody

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Speaker 3: who does not believe in number four getting at a job,

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Speaker 3: you simply cannot have a job. So what I heard

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Speaker 3: him say yesterday was what I expected Dak Prescott to say.

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Speaker 3: I like Mike McCarthy, I want Mike McCarthy back. That's

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Speaker 3: what I expect him to say. I'm not saying I

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Speaker 3: don't believe him, but that who is, That is who

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Speaker 3: he is. Dak is not a guy like Aaron Rodger's

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Speaker 3: gonna sit up and say some that's not him. He's

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Speaker 3: not about to rock the boat. It's not your boy.

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields last year was calling out the Bears coaches.

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Speaker 2: Not that kind of guy.

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Speaker 3: So when I heard him, like, that's on brand for

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott and whatever Dak has to say, that's anything

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Speaker 3: go ahead and take it to Jerry. Look, Troy Aikman

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Speaker 3: shooting a blasting Chan Gailey out front. He never said it.

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Speaker 3: He said it behind the scenes. All players have certain issues.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, what you said about Michael Parsons, Mike,

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Speaker 2: But he's just emotional.

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Speaker 3: But he said, I was emotional, But I but I

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the players.

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Speaker 5: Could he have said, you know, it's above my pay grade,

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Speaker 5: that's not mine. I don't know that he could have

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Speaker 6: Do you believe that what Dak is saying lacks sincerity

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Speaker 6: from his point of view as a quarterback, or you

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Speaker 6: think that he's towing the line as the company man

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Speaker 6: face of the franchise. That's what he's supposed to say.

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Speaker 6: It's on brand with what Dak says when he does

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Speaker 2: On brand.

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Speaker 3: But dude, I mean, heckman, if you were my coach

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit up here and cut for you.

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Speaker 6: Okay, But in the same breath to say that you

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Speaker 6: two and Dak saying basically, this offense works for me

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Speaker 6: because this last season we can go all we can

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Speaker 2: So I guess we're the mixed messages.

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Speaker 7: For me.

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Speaker 6: Kind of confusing is when Dak says something to endorse,

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Speaker 6: Mike is like, Oh, that's that's just Dak. That's just Dak.

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Speaker 6: Dak says all the right things, but he can't just

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Speaker 6: because it's like, we just move on to do something different.

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Speaker 6: The disrespect of Mike McCarthy from the beginning of the

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Speaker 6: the people, for the people that won't step out of

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Speaker 2: You know what's worrying about. Have you ever seen a.

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Speaker 6: Guy be stripped down the way that he was from

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Speaker 6: talent on this roster that might go into the front office. No,

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Speaker 6: go into Jerry's office and say, hey Jerry, we need Sakwan.

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Speaker 6: Hey hey Jered, I need to get Derrick Henry. Now

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Speaker 6: we're gonna get your Zeke. Right. Don't come on, I

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Speaker 6: don't mean it like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean it like that. I don't mean it

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Speaker 2: mean it like that, guys, because what I'm talking about,

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Speaker 2: NA what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Because what I'm saying those things were feel there for Mike,

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Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy is the perfect middle man, the perfect middle

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Speaker 6: man because of what he was groomed to be in

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Speaker 6: Would tell for Ted.

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Speaker 2: Thompson that was the same book that was written for

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Speaker 2: him there.

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Speaker 6: So look, my thing is this when Dak comes out

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Speaker 6: I think he's talking from like he's being sincere, he's

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Speaker 6: I would like to hit for him to get the

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Speaker 6: maybe bring in some coaches, do something different with this

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Speaker 3: Now to further to what you said, he's always been

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Speaker 3: consistent about Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's always been consistent. I like Mike. That's Mike.

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Speaker 2: He's always been consistent there.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just when asked the question, I just truly

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Speaker 3: there's no there's no other lane to go down.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not saying I don't believe him.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, Dak Prescott, that's the only

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Speaker 3: you do, in my opinion, you do. Oh that man

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Speaker 3: the cut for him. From the standpoint we you went

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Speaker 3: a dude who led league and touchdown passes, made second

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Speaker 3: team ball Pro, and you got to contract me the

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Speaker 3: no matter how you felt, hey, man, let me, let

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Speaker 3: me try to.

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Speaker 2: Help you get your bag.

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Speaker 3: He's got very little juice in terms of what Jerry's

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Speaker 3: gonna do. Jerry's gonna do what Jerry wants to do

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Speaker 3: because he's the owner in the general manager.

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Speaker 2: He always does. Dak has, Yeah, Dak has Jared, Jerry'll

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Speaker 2: take his opinion. Hey what did you say that? What?

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Speaker 3: Jerry's always taking opinions. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: Jerry's gonna do He's gonna do. And as we've kind

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Speaker 3: of talked about on this show, if you bring Mike

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Speaker 2: Be for multiple years. Yes, it will.

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Speaker 3: That dude's not coming back on a one year two

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Speaker 3: years like like some franchise tad.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna franchise and.

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Speaker 2: Both ways, really both of Jerry's emotional.

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Speaker 6: So we get this emotional because we wouldn't even entertain

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Speaker 6: this conversation, like you were just saying, two weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: It was funny because Clarence Clarence when we're talking to

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Speaker 2: You all you all wrote a song you are I mean,

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Speaker 2: And that's that's Jerry. He can ama.

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Speaker 3: As many times as I thought Jason Garrett was gonna

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Speaker 8: This dude like resputing and Jerry kept saving it, and

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Speaker 8: I thought, hey, hey, what what's that?

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Speaker 2: But what is this again?

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Speaker 3: So could he do that same Jason Garrett Thattrick Drake

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Speaker 3: and make it it was really you?

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Speaker 6: That's a hell of a s you you you said, Zeke,

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Speaker 2: Cooper Rush one three game wish. I mean, dude, there's

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Speaker 3: That there is a way that I could conceivably see Mike,

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Speaker 3: I can see him that whole He even he shoot

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Speaker 3: himself for Jared, Get Jerry, get Hie's own product too.

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Speaker 6: Now the pack here you on his own product too?

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, what Biggie said? So heck, that's why

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Speaker 6: I say.

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Speaker 2: I've told.

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Speaker 3: Are they losing an embarrassing fashion towards the end? Then

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Speaker 2: Or if they go at the end, I see see.

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Speaker 5: Man, they're gonna play against the Philly team, rest in

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Speaker 2: Who knows what the commanders and who knows who knows?

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Speaker 2: I just wow, they gonna run it back another four.

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Speaker 3: Now you need to beat Joe Burrow on Monday, which

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Speaker 3: you need to do that.

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Speaker 2: Vegas got your six point dog.

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Speaker 3: But Jerry, Jerry, Jerry is an emotional guy, man, I'm

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Speaker 3: telling you dude, I'd have bet twice. I'd have bet.

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Speaker 3: I'd have bet big money. Gone Like, do you know

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Speaker 3: how they do? Those? Those those you can bet on

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Speaker 3: the odds as we get odds on the man, I

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Speaker 3: he can't say eight and eight again, you're no there

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Speaker 3: he is backprint t shirts.

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Speaker 2: This is wow.

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Speaker 6: That crazy thing about it is two weeks ago. I

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Speaker 6: even even when you want to entertain it, have a

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Speaker 2: Now not gonna happen.

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Speaker 6: And and most of the time in this in this arena,

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Speaker 2: They got first head knowledge.

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Speaker 6: So you can waste your time with that all you

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Speaker 6: want to, because we know now everybody's back to square

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Speaker 6: one on this, whether you bring him back or not.

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Speaker 6: And I'm I'm shocked, confused, I'm shocked because that's.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So here it is. Now here comes Michael Parson's back.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, you see Michael making a different Cooks catches

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Speaker 3: a touchdown. Bland is back playing good your beat. Washington

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Speaker 3: those kind of when you're an emotional guy like Jerry, who, by.

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Speaker 2: The way, doesn't like change. Jason Garrett proved it didn't

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Speaker 3: Then the way he flipped it here got on that

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Speaker 6: So you get on the wind streak because you get

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at what Deron Bland.

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Speaker 6: throw over there. This last game against the Giants, the

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Speaker 6: I'm very curious to know, because I know Joe Burrow

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Speaker 6: is gonna test him. He gonna go at him because

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Speaker 2: So he ain't going back.

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Speaker 6: But you've gotten guys back healthy and your team looks different.

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Speaker 6: You've allowed for Zach Martin to go and get health

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Speaker 6: and oh, by the way, the piece that you brought

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Speaker 3: To stay there hacking if you are Mike McCarthy and

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Speaker 3: it's you and Jerry that office up there, maybe I'm

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Speaker 3: bringing all that up there. Hey, you saw what happened

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Speaker 3: when I got my people back a little bit. I

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Speaker 3: you really help me on another floor?

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Speaker 2: Did you help You sold me on Zeke you sold it.

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Speaker 2: I need it.

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Speaker 3: I needed Derek hen, I need a I mean you

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Speaker 2: Everybody.

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Speaker 3: Jason Garrett made it, made a tradition like no other.

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Speaker 8: I just how many, how many, how many? Remember how

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Speaker 3: Going through that. That means you was up there with Jerry.

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Speaker 3: You was spinning, he was resputing, and you look at

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Speaker 3: I just man.

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Speaker 2: You know so so could that happen? It could.

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Speaker 3: We got to see how December goes. But don't be

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Speaker 2: On the radio. He's already laying the groundwork. If he

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Speaker 6: May want to say that Jerry says, don't believe nothing

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Speaker 2: Just as I said, it doesn't.

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Speaker 5: Just go back to something you had said back in

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Speaker 2: I believe it was Todd Archer.

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Speaker 5: He told you the reason McCarthy was brought in here

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Speaker 5: was get pasted at the divisional round. Yes, and the

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Speaker 5: man has plenty of opportunities. He had his players all pros,

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Speaker 5: And now it's just wild to me that he could

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I missed the place.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you know what in the contract get you know

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Speaker 3: the hardest thing to do is to put your pet down?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what the hardest thing to put your pet down?

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Speaker 2: That's wow.

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Speaker 3: Jerry becomes close with these coaches, man, and in my

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Speaker 3: go ahead and old Jason out.

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Speaker 2: There the gallows. What an analogy.

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Speaker 3: He's still crying about Wavefields.

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Speaker 2: I wish I wanted to say to the gallows. I

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Speaker 2: still regret that man. This man still tell you how

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Speaker 2: have done it. Then he crying up there, all staying

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Speaker 2: so so I'm telling you, man, Jerry showing you man,

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Speaker 6: You feel like you honestly feel like we're for you.

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Speaker 6: When you look at the landscape of NFL coaches, you're

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Speaker 2: I would have assumed, okay, But the way around, that's true.

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Speaker 5: They did switch him up, like the trumped the switch

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Speaker 2: When the AFC champions, that man was fired.

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Speaker 6: I mean, but none of those other things, None of

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Speaker 6: those twelve and five seasons mean anything to you. None

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Speaker 6: of the injuries at any point does that mean? But

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Speaker 2: He was telling me. Yeah, like that's why you were

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like regular season cool. You were brought here to

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Speaker 5: division I ain't even talking about super Bowl. Just get

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's what he was brought and he has

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Speaker 5: close win here and there and last and last January

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Speaker 5: would have been the time to do it if you

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Speaker 2: I say, hey, man, you know what brought you in

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 5: Now we got blued outload out. The youngest team in

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Speaker 3: But he said, running back, he didn't know, no contract

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Speaker 3: So does he have guilt? Does he say, man, you

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: The youngest team in the league came in here and

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Speaker 6: They had a running game that they could come in

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Speaker 6: and they did it religiously. And they came into this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they just passed the blueprint and here

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Speaker 2: you go, here you got it.

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Speaker 7: Run.

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Speaker 3: They can't run on me. I mean that's how everybody

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Speaker 3: believe it's it's we gotta play out. I know it's

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Speaker 3: a thing I said before, But we gotta let it

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Speaker 2: I know for a fact, Jerry ticked off. He should

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Speaker 3: And somewhere along the way he got talked down, talk down,

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Speaker 2: See he thought he was going to strip everything down

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Speaker 2: after that.

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Speaker 3: It felt that way from talking to some folks in

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Speaker 2: So I said, got to see what happens in December.

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Speaker 3: See what hey, Look, if it's a losing December, then

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Speaker 3: Okay, a lot of free agents, but the Cowboys after

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Speaker 3: So, for the purpose of this exercise, I'm going to ask,

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Speaker 3: who's one free agent you want back? Who's a free

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Speaker 2: Of the building. Yes, yes, yes, you got to give

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Speaker 2: me some names because I don't.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you a name. Okay, a guy I cannot

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Speaker 3: let get out of the buildings. Jordan Lewis, cornerback in

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Speaker 3: this league. He's a good, good slot guy. You just

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Speaker 3: can't have enough corners. Can have enough corners, like you

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Speaker 3: can't have enough pictures in baseball. You need them. And

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Speaker 3: in this division, division where they got some players and

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Speaker 3: they're going to keep getting them. And this is a

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Speaker 3: division where I got Jay Daniels quarterback of Washington, who

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Speaker 3: knows who the Giants school get? And I got a

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl quarterback in Jalen Hurts, who's got some weapons.

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Speaker 3: I need corners. So Bland is coming back, He'll go

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Speaker 3: into the final year of free agency for him. Diggs

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Speaker 3: is coming back. Both gentlemen have had injuries. I want

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Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis back if I'm the Capitals.

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Speaker 2: I mean, here's Coop that left free agent, Trey Lance free.

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Speaker 2: Give me Coop. Give me Coop back.

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Speaker 5: Give me Coop back on a similar deal. You understand

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Speaker 5: what he brings to the table. You know, if you

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Speaker 5: have your whole onslaught of players and it was just

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Speaker 5: Prescott that had missed, I'm sure this team would be

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Speaker 5: a lot better as well, because we saw what Cooper

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Speaker 5: Rush could do when he had his full onslaught of players.

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Speaker 5: Four and one out there, all right, So give me

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Speaker 5: Cooper Rush back. Brand what's his name? Anger the punter? Right,

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Speaker 5: bring that man back too, for sure? That man is

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Speaker 5: a Coffin corner specialist, flips the field. You got one

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Speaker 5: of the best kicking units in the National Football League

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Speaker 5: when you talk about Aubrey, when you talk about the

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Speaker 5: kicker as well, bring us that group back, all right?

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Speaker 2: That those are two for me? Off the rip. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure about Ole Diggiz.

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Speaker 6: Damn Manure because a controversy.

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Speaker 5: He's one of these guys that you know. Towards the

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Speaker 5: latter part of the season, he's starting to come alive

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Speaker 5: a little bit. He's starting to make some plays in there.

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Speaker 5: But is he a flash player or is he consistent?

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Speaker 5: Can he be a consistent dominant guy in the trenches.

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Speaker 5: We've seen flashes where he can go in there. Man,

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Speaker 5: he's look good, ninety seven look good. But then we

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Speaker 5: also seen games where he gets put out the club.

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Speaker 6: So about value, no white teas, but we've seen those

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Speaker 6: type of instances.

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Speaker 2: Club.

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Speaker 5: We've seen that, but we've also seen him be dominant

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Speaker 5: in specific games Washington, New York to come to mind,

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Speaker 5: he passed two games. So I'm not so sure on

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Speaker 5: Diggizu up. But bring me to punt him and bring

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Speaker 5: me back up. A matter of fact, it's Hoffman up

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Speaker 5: so on too.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, I gotta have him, better to have him. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'm taking them off. Took them off.

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Speaker 3: There's one hanging out there that I didn't mention, but

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Speaker 3: I had to pick once. I went with Lewis. But

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Speaker 3: I got my number. I got my number two sitting

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Speaker 3: up been here right now.

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Speaker 2: So who is your number two?

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Speaker 3: Cavante Turpin? Yeah, he's going to make the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 3: He's a difference maker. I am one of those people

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Speaker 3: that believes that three the three phases mattering games. And

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Speaker 3: Cavante Turpin is a guy that I know Bill Belichick

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Speaker 3: has a high regard for and Bones Fossil has a

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Speaker 3: high regard for. I still believe they haven't gotten enough

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Speaker 2: I've seen it.

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Speaker 3: So to me, I look at uh Cavante Turpin is

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Speaker 6: Game, not one of the poke holes in what you

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Speaker 6: guys are saying, but just looking at Jordan Lewis, I

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Speaker 6: believe Jordan Lewis had a great year, has had great

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Speaker 6: years where he's been a guy that stayed healthy when

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Speaker 6: he when healthy, He's been tough for you as a nickel.

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Speaker 6: It's hard to find Nichols as you've talked about in

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Speaker 6: the NFL, but you've also seen where they've been able

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Speaker 6: to develop guys. He saw Josh Butler who just with

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Speaker 6: the ACL deal, what type of comeback can he make?

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Speaker 6: Kayln Carson hadn't had his best performance with the other

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Speaker 6: b kem On Hall, Guys like that that have come

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Speaker 6: on that you believe in in that cornerback room as well.

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Speaker 2: Al Harris has brought some guys on.

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Speaker 6: I believe that when you look at d ron Bland,

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Speaker 6: even though he's been great as an outside corner, one

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Speaker 6: ability to drop down in a nickel. So I mean

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Speaker 6: you still have a little leeway there when you start

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Speaker 6: talking about Jordan Lewis and whether you I don't think

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Speaker 6: you tag him by any means or anything like that,

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Speaker 6: But I'm just saying like his value may be in

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Speaker 2: I like j Lou.

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Speaker 6: Okay, let me just go ahead and say that Cavante Turpin, look,

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Speaker 6: I think for him as a special teams gadget guy.

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Speaker 2: For me, I love what he's doing.

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Speaker 6: There are a lot of people out there that think

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Speaker 6: lot more. Okay, okay, but see, we know that, we

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Speaker 6: So that's where I'm at. But Osa Diggy Zoolo, for me,

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Speaker 6: is the one guy that I'm saying to myself, I

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Speaker 6: I think you can honestly be a guy. How many

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Speaker 6: good three techs? I mean, then that's not a lot

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Speaker 6: of them in the league anymore. And with the Cowboys,

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Speaker 6: you question that even in this draft because they need

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Speaker 6: free agent wise, I don't care who they let go.

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Speaker 6: They got to go into this draft and get a

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Speaker 6: So all you gotta all of those things. But you know,

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Speaker 6: I don't care what whatever you do in this draft.

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Speaker 6: You got to go and get the best defensive lineman

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Speaker 6: and defensive lineman in this.

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Speaker 2: Draft, y'all y'all bringing d Law back? No, No, I

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Speaker 2: can't do. Kendricks can't do. Who's your coaching staff? That's true?

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Speaker 3: What defense are you running? I mean that's that that

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Speaker 3: be a play play part there. I'm not with Jorge Lewis.

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Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis has shown you he can play any defenses

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Speaker 3: he's been here and by the way, guard slots in

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Speaker 3: this league, you need that. But the talking about the deal,

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Speaker 3: I'm with you one hundred. This has been a problem

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Speaker 3: for this team for the last four years. They have

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Speaker 3: not addressed it enough in my opinion. But where does

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Speaker 3: he gonna cost you a lot of money? Is he

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Speaker 3: get to the point where you look last year with

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Speaker 3: you say, hey, man, am I better off trying to

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Speaker 3: load up here with a couple of guys or do

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Speaker 3: I go there? I mean that that to me is

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Speaker 3: the because he's, like you said, he's got some talent.

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Speaker 3: Somebody would we be shocked if he went somewhere else

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Speaker 3: and was able to make some plays. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: When I look at sa Quan you say, look at

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Speaker 3: what this man could do with a healthy offensive line

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Speaker 3: and some other weapons around him, where they just kept

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Speaker 3: circle on him. What if you put Osa on a

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Speaker 3: line where there's some more There's more Pro Bowl talent

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Speaker 3: right there on that d at the detacle position.

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Speaker 6: That one technique has to be double team. You have

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Speaker 6: to make sure this guy is not disrupted so that

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Speaker 6: frees him up on the one on one. But that's

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Speaker 6: the same argument that you get for Michael Parsons, because

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Speaker 6: that's what defenses have to do. I'm looking, here's the thing.

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Speaker 6: If Olsa outprices himself, I thank him for services. We

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Speaker 6: don't fight, okay, because what I gotta do anyway is

677
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Speaker 6: in undrafted free agents. I got to bring in defensive tackles.

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Speaker 6: He's going to be competing anyway when he comes back,

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Speaker 6: all right. So that's what I'm saying. And I want

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Speaker 6: to take back what I said about Eric Kendrick because

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Speaker 6: I feel like he's one of those pieces for the

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Speaker 6: young guys. You see the influence that he's had on Overshaw.

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Speaker 6: You see the influence that he's having on marsh Leo file. Like,

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Speaker 6: you talk about guys that when you were coming into

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Speaker 6: the league that were impressions on you. And I don't

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Speaker 6: think what he does as a middle linebacker stopping those

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Speaker 6: guys from getting reps. So as long as he's not

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Speaker 6: doing that, I'm okay with bringing him back. You know

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Speaker 6: that when he comes back, he's gonna have some durability issues.

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Speaker 6: He's gonna miss about three games out of the season.

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Speaker 6: You can live with that.

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Speaker 3: That's one of those where I go to what's my

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Speaker 3: That's to be where Eric Kendricks falls into it. I

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Speaker 3: his comfortability level. Can remember at the end of Greg

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Speaker 3: same way for a guy like Zim, right, he knows

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Speaker 3: you know, Zim likes guys like that. So if Zimmer's

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Speaker 3: back here, then yeah, you want to entertain having Kendricks back,

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Speaker 3: But if he's not, then maybe he doesn't fit.

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Speaker 2: That's true, and.

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Speaker 3: That's that's that's that whole dichotomy is some of these

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Speaker 3: some of these players, how do they fit in your skime?

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Speaker 3: But for me, Lewis can play for anybody. He can,

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Speaker 3: he could put Turpin can play for anybody. You know,

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Speaker 3: those kind of guys right there helping him fit. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: price is always this crazy thing when you talk about

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Speaker 2: That price yourself out right right there. You go, Come up,

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Speaker 2: you're not a ten million dollar player.

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Speaker 3: Now he's been a ten million dollar to play for

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get our final break in here. This

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Speaker 2: Is he off the bus list?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I think it is.

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Speaker 2: I knew Scruggs. That's very ture down cowboy safety. All right.

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Speaker 2: So this player was trending on the bus list.

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Speaker 3: You're like bus bus el bustos.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who you got, man?

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Speaker 3: But the past three games, the past three games, man

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Speaker 3: tighty and Luke's schoonmaker, not a bust. Go back to

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Speaker 3: the Houston game three weeks ago, Withers went out six

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Speaker 3: catches fifty six yards Washington three catches fifty five yards

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Speaker 3: and a touchdown. And then last week against the Giants

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Speaker 3: on Thanksgiving Day, five catches thirty three.

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Speaker 6: She was about to jump out. Nobody you ragged off.

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Speaker 2: Special Michigan man. Look school Maker he had in the

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Speaker 2: first half.

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Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie you all right, Look Schoolmaker, I mean,

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Speaker 3: what was schooning not looking like a bus.

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Speaker 2: He he was in line.

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Speaker 6: He was in line for that and especially the production

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Speaker 6: at the beginning of the season when y'all were talking

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Speaker 6: about him in his reps that he's got. I mean,

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Speaker 6: what's my man spanan Ford spa forward? He did jump

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Speaker 6: right over that man. I mean, it was happening. And

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Speaker 6: then that's how it happened. You get your opportunities. Guys

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Speaker 6: go down, another guy gets an opportunity to step up.

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Speaker 6: Schoolmakers made the best of this opportunity. Blocking wise, catching wise,

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Speaker 6: I mean he's fieled it nicely and nah man not

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Speaker 6: looking so bustish.

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Speaker 2: He ain't looking buzzes.

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Speaker 5: Because when you look at the tape and look at

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Speaker 5: these past games that Ferguson has missed, this offense has

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Speaker 5: a missed be and it's actually gotten an uptick from

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Speaker 5: the tight end position when you talk about what Schoolmaker's

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Speaker 5: been able to do in the pass game. So to me,

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Speaker 5: the one area that was a concern to him was

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Speaker 5: his ability to block, and he's gotten better at that.

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Speaker 2: You've seen the runs that Rico Doddald's been able to produce.

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Speaker 5: He's been a part of that officive line blocking, so

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Speaker 5: he's taking the most of his opportunities.

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Speaker 2: And to me, this is why I.

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Speaker 5: Never won to miss game, not one game, because Kyle

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Speaker 5: never could be confusing that this is a business at

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Speaker 5: the end of the day, and you might be cool

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Speaker 5: with everybody in the locker room, that might be a

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Speaker 5: boy over there, but I'm not about to give you

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Speaker 5: a chance to slide up on what I already got.

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Speaker 5: And that that has been my mindset from the beginning,

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Speaker 5: like we're all cool, we're going for the same goal.

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I got to

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Speaker 2: put food on my plate.

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Speaker 5: So I never wanted to miss an opportunity, whether it's practice,

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Speaker 5: especially being undrafted, whether it's practice, whether it's in the

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Speaker 5: meeting room.

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Speaker 6: I was not missing nothing. How did you get put

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Speaker 6: on the exactly somebody missed? Somebody missed My guy, Pat

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Speaker 6: Watkins was here.

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Speaker 5: He missed all of ot That was my guy, one

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Speaker 5: of the leaders in the safety room. But he missed

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Speaker 5: all OTA's missed, you know, half a training camp. I

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Speaker 5: slid in there and these couple of reps got a

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Speaker 5: couple of players. Next thing you know, they rotating. It

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Speaker 5: went on from there. But telling you a Matt, you know,

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Speaker 5: you don't want to miss an opportunity out here, especially

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 3: So Bill Parcells had the great line, you don't leave

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Speaker 5: In fact, all church you want to breathe, No, I

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Speaker 5: ain't going nowhere went out.

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Speaker 2: Some guy named Brady Winning.

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Speaker 3: Never seen him, Drew Bledsoe went out Romo Winning, never

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Speaker 2: The wine business. Tony went out, Yeah, that's that's the business.

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Speaker 2: Keen Kellen went out and that yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, dude, this this, this is this is the business.

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Speaker 2: This is the business.

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Speaker 3: But Jake Ferguson, Uh McCarthy spoke earlier in the week said,

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Speaker 3: you know what, he looks good.

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Speaker 2: He's McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: And I asked the question about Schooney and he said,

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Speaker 3: schoolmaker does all the work. He's like, he comes in early,

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Speaker 3: he's in the films. He says, he does the work.

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Speaker 2: So for him.

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Speaker 3: He said it was really a matter of all of

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Speaker 3: the work he's been doing and then finally getting the result.

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Speaker 3: Kind of like you go to the gym and you

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Speaker 3: think you don't se any results and things are going away,

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Speaker 3: and then one day, boom, there's exponential go bamu there.

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Speaker 2: So Schooney.

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Speaker 3: Scooney is no longer my opinion, the bust that he

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Speaker 3: was looking in trending would be.

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Speaker 6: Crazy for a guy to be on the brink and

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Speaker 6: that's working as hard as the next guy, and then

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Speaker 6: he get the opportunity and he's not ready for how

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Speaker 6: many times have you seen that happen in sports? Guy

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Speaker 6: sitting there pouting about his opportunities and his reps, and

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Speaker 6: then he gets an opportunity, doesn't take advantage of him.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying, you've seen it. You've seen it happen

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Speaker 6: to a lot of guys. And Schoolmaker again, he could

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Speaker 6: have been making waves in the media. I know he

874
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 6: doesn't seem like that kind of personality as a person anyway,

875
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 6: but still staying patient, waiting for his moment, not even

876
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 6: listening to the naysayers, and right now even Jake Ferguson,

877
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 6: he's coming back from a concussion.

878
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 2: He's you need him.

879
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 6: Even with the successes you had these last couple of games,

880
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 6: I think this wide receiver group you still need somebody.

881
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: All right.

882
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 6: You're still not getting the production that you need out there.

883
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 6: And I'm telling you, if I'm Cooper, if I'm rush like,

884
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 6: bring Ferguson back asap. I know the rest of these

885
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 6: guys are good, but what you get from Ferguson is

886
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 6: a lot more than what you get from Luke Schoolmaker.

887
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 6: And I mean it's just apparent in the production. Okay,

888
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 6: Ferguson hasn't half the year that that we wanted him

889
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 6: to have. Okay, no, no, no, come on, come on.

890
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: That's to tell you he's gonna be. I got, I got,

891
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: I got a hundred Look you, I got you wearing ferd.

892
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's tough, right, tough.

893
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: So we got to get the port.

894
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 6: I said, whoa hold on, hold on that ship. That's

895
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 6: that's jumping out the cake. I did that. I did that.

896
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 6: Come on, come on, Jake, come on, Jake.

897
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 13: Biggie and Vicki and Pot Burk Biggie Pot Show berk

898
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 13: biggie pot.

899
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: Well, you ain't gonna live it. They won't let you

900
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: live it down out you want to.

901
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 6: Forget about it. The players left, don't get remember the

902
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 6: Book of integrity. Hey man, will burn you every time

903
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 6: it has burned you with somebody in the in the

904
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 6: Scrubts house, Go.

905
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: Burn burn that. Get rid of it. Something starting new.

906
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: Hey man, look we all can massive dude climb me

907
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: on two. I had I have opposed a little picture

908
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: of my Pembroke coup. He said to say, trustee on it.

909
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 14: Wow, you don't forget that took you a minute. You

910
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 14: have to put your phone down.

911
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 2: Did like maybe go to the Bible? Man say that?

912
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 6: Oh you send them script, I said, and then I

913
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 6: read it myself. Okay, let me put this phone down.

914
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 6: That's what I know. New it cussing you see your

915
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 6: script man really.

916
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: Cats wild.

917
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: But but also say man, people people the podcast catching

918
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: on because that ain't been but it's been a minute,

919
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: and Danny roll roll that on.

920
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: It's been a grip. That was early.

921
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: That was that was waved many time on the Jersey Trust.

922
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: Trust by Russell. That was the whole episode.

923
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 7: Whole.

924
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: It was the old school you're crazy sport, because that

925
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 2: was a whole episode. It was just it was multiple.

926
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 2: That was was dog on. That was like a season.

927
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: Trustee on season in the ice in the light thing

928
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 3: about that's what missed.

929
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: That's what he would. He go, He's gonna find some things, man,

930
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: He's gonna put some hot So that was that was clean.

931
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: The Brahma bus he talking about the brother I didn't know.

932
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm about to get him signed to. I'm about to

933
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: get this.

934
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: I got right there in the closet waiting for the

935
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: Rock to come back. Girl work over there. The uf

936
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: L like, let me know when Dwayne's back in town.

937
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take him over and sign.

938
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: That's right, sign final New Rock. Don't get your Broma signed,

939
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: let it go. I'm gonna get him signed. Collected. Collect

940
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 2: collect these, collect these bromas. It's time to go. Thank

941
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: you Heckman Harrison, Thank you Barry Church.

942
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 3: I knew hopefully you were entertained by the Players Lounge,

943
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: brought to you by Richter Prackt Gaming for Christ.

944
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: Jazz, Josh and everybody that makes nothing. I'll kill you man.

945
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: We got I get out.

946
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,279
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