Speaker 1: The coronavirus has left the path of destruction across the
Speaker 1: United States and the rest of the world. Millions of
Speaker 1: people have lost jobs and livelihoods, and some people have
Speaker 1: even died. These dates have left us all wondering one
Speaker 1: will it end? And we have a lot of questions,
Speaker 1: ones in which no one seems to have answers. Digital
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Speaker 1: makes content specific for not dis urban America, but for
Speaker 1: those that struggle across the world. We haven't went anywhere.
Speaker 1: In fact, we got stronger and we had a lot
Speaker 1: of talk about it was up, it was up? Oh nothing,
Speaker 1: No that I go by James big Bro. I apologize,
Speaker 1: I truly apologize. It's all good. It's all good. I
Speaker 1: want to send out all whatever was articulated to you
Speaker 1: in some kind of way. Um, I want to send
Speaker 1: like I send my apologies out to you. And as
Speaker 1: long as you know we are gentlemen first, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, don't come into a conversation or anything
Speaker 1: as a gentleman. Well we're good, brother, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Uh, I heard you lost. I know you
Speaker 1: lost your brother to the game. I lost my brother.
Speaker 1: I thought he was in the streets to St. Louis.
Speaker 1: And I know I know of some of the pain
Speaker 1: you may feel because I felt that pain too. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Right well? You know I'm I'm
Speaker 1: actually getting over that. You know what I'm saying, my brother.
Speaker 1: You know that the hatred I had, for sure. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty much over that. You know, I'm letting
Speaker 1: the rest. I'm done with it. Uh. I know there's
Speaker 1: nothing I can do about that, you know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: I know you know I can't. But I can't be
Speaker 1: mad at shild forever. I ain't trying to be mad
Speaker 1: at you forever. You know. I can forgive, but I
Speaker 1: can't forget. You feel me, But I'm not gonna go
Speaker 1: every day feeling the way I used to feel. It
Speaker 1: just wasn't healthy from me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you know, and I know everybody across the board
Speaker 1: field that way, you know, Biggie Mama, Tupac Mama. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody lost somebody to this, to the bs. You feel me, So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think everybody just needs to get over it. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I listened to you talk and I listened
Speaker 1: to a lot that you have to say about the situation,
Speaker 1: about the way Puff was pretty much the same way
Speaker 1: that should was. And you know, like I was telling
Speaker 1: you earlier, a lot of people don't, don't you know,
Speaker 1: they're paying attention to the wrong thing. You know, we're praising,
Speaker 1: you know, these two guys, but then we're not really
Speaker 1: thinking about the depths of of of Tupac, Biggie and
Speaker 1: all the other cats that lost their lives. We got
Speaker 1: a lot of cats out of here that's dead behind
Speaker 1: this East Coast West Coast ship, and and you know,
Speaker 1: the guys that hate each other because of the situation.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of it's a lot of us
Speaker 1: involved in some ship that that shouldn't have never been.
Speaker 1: And right down to day, we still got brothers not
Speaker 1: working with each other on on some man, I ain't
Speaker 1: working with that NIGGD ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I listened to the interview you had with uh, what's
Speaker 1: his name, Little Sees or somebody you had an interview
Speaker 1: with with Mace, and and right off the top I
Speaker 1: knew it wasn't. We can't get nowhere if we start
Speaker 1: arguing with each other opposed to. You know, I think
Speaker 1: y'all should have had a conversation before like we did before.
Speaker 1: You know, y'all tapped in with each other and other
Speaker 1: people can hear what the fun was going on. Uh,
Speaker 1: we opened the door for social media to come in
Speaker 1: and comment on the ship that we're talking about or
Speaker 1: that what's going on now. Everybody voiced their own opinion.
Speaker 1: But then we get mad at the ship of you know,
Speaker 1: the comments that are being said because you had some
Speaker 1: people on his side, you had a lot of people
Speaker 1: on your side. I mean where we draw the line at.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Everybody gonna voice stay own
Speaker 1: opinion on on on how they felt. And you know,
Speaker 1: one he said, you had a fister, why you didn't shoot?
Speaker 1: If you was in the same boat, why you didn't. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's my opinion on it. If he could
Speaker 1: say that, why didn't he reacted sir kind of way
Speaker 1: to the situation. Well, to piggyback on that Mace, Mace
Speaker 1: was only being sadistic in the manner with which after
Speaker 1: Big got killed. Me and Mace had a conversation directly
Speaker 1: after Big got killed. You understand, I was one of
Speaker 1: the people that he called. We spoke on the telephone,
Speaker 1: you understand, And I could have been Mace raighted way
Speaker 1: out the water because Brandy was not in the room
Speaker 1: with Mace during the time they got killed, right. She
Speaker 1: was trying to get Mace out the room because Mace
Speaker 1: told me, Yo, Brandy kept calling me trying to get
Speaker 1: me out the room, and I told I wasn't going nowhere.
Speaker 1: I could have blew him out the water without because
Speaker 1: he forgot that, he told me. Now, maybe she went
Speaker 1: to the room after Big got killed to console him,
Speaker 1: or whatever the fact they may be. I'm never said
Speaker 1: Mace blew that I had blew that light at the corner,
Speaker 1: you understand. Because the dude who was looking out for
Speaker 1: Mace named Tone. He the one who saw the individual
Speaker 1: pull a weapon at the corner, you understand. He told
Speaker 1: him we think reverse or turn around? He forward. So
Speaker 1: it's nothing I can do on that time. What do
Speaker 1: I makes an innocent bystander? Right, so you know, and
Speaker 1: and that acpect he knew the whole thing, but what
Speaker 1: he had to do he had to save himself. He
Speaker 1: had to save himself because he knew not to go
Speaker 1: to the party. Puff ain't Puff ain't make him go
Speaker 1: to the party like he made Beg go to the park. See,
Speaker 1: people don't understand that every time Puff hit the streets
Speaker 1: in California, I was next to him. I was right
Speaker 1: next to him, except that one day and which he
Speaker 1: took d Rock with him with Sally Richardson and some
Speaker 1: other people so he could party or have fun or
Speaker 1: do whatever they were doing. So he could convinced Rock
Speaker 1: that he wanted to go to that party. He needed
Speaker 1: to get big to that part. Even today, if you
Speaker 1: hear snoop and somebody sent me him a snoop online
Speaker 1: on Instagram and Pump brought up, you know, like it
Speaker 1: was a fake East Coast West Coast Walk. How does
Speaker 1: it fake East Coast West Coast Walk? When people lost
Speaker 1: their life, people couldn't travel, people didn't feel safe. How
Speaker 1: was that fake? But he still want to put that
Speaker 1: out there because he don't want to admit so I know, Pump,
Speaker 1: people don't want me, Yo, Jane, let it go, Let
Speaker 1: it go, man, listen to me. I don't hate that boy.
Speaker 1: I don't catch shit a bottle like I was telling
Speaker 1: people up to day, I'm good like morm Jane. I
Speaker 1: told you I ain't never gotta leave out my house
Speaker 1: if I don't want to, and I get paid, I
Speaker 1: pimped the mail man. Now, I set up my life.
Speaker 1: I did everything that I could do and wanted to do.
Speaker 1: You understand, so now I can live comfortable. You understand.
Speaker 1: I'm fifty six years old and I'm leaving it comfortably.
Speaker 1: I'm good. You understand. You know people who've been to
Speaker 1: my house, people who've been around me. Yo. I got
Speaker 1: old schools, I got old cars, I got old trucks.
Speaker 1: I can get a new car, new truck, get anything
Speaker 1: I want to in life. I set myself up for that,
Speaker 1: and I tell my kids everything. When you turn the eighteen,
Speaker 1: what you're doing the next five years, it's gonna determine
Speaker 1: how you live the rest of your life. They went
Speaker 1: to college, they go to they finished college, they're doing
Speaker 1: their thing. One is still in college doing anything. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm not upset and puff. I'm not upset
Speaker 1: and none of this. It was an experience. But if
Speaker 1: I could talk about it, I could be about it,
Speaker 1: and I could teach and tell people about it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it. If they hate me for it, man, listen,
Speaker 1: here they hated Jesus Christ. What they do They wear
Speaker 1: him around his neck right now and call them God.
Speaker 1: You understand, I have no problem with that. Okay, let
Speaker 1: me let me, let me let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: Going in law enforcement and then doing any time my
Speaker 1: mother getting and shooting or drive by, whatever the case
Speaker 1: might be. I think those cats did the right thing
Speaker 1: being in that car. You know, when you hear gunshots,
Speaker 1: you're gonna sucking duck. You ain't gonna really see what's
Speaker 1: going on in the first the first three seconds right there. No,
Speaker 1: if you trained, if you were trained, you don't duck
Speaker 1: for nothing. I don't know. I know, not a police
Speaker 1: officer I'm talking about. I'm talking about guys, just just
Speaker 1: an average street cat. Now. Particulate for those street cats,
Speaker 1: because I know some serious street cats and it seems
Speaker 1: like they got like like they got they got. I
Speaker 1: would want to go to wall with them because I've seen.
Speaker 1: Let me just say this, I know street cats, if
Speaker 1: they in situations like that, they don't duck. They don't
Speaker 1: what you call Lucy's said. You know he saw somebody
Speaker 1: uh dressed like the Nation of Islam. You understand that's
Speaker 1: a little c said. He said, somebody dressed like the
Speaker 1: National Islam and then they they they they they started shooting.
Speaker 1: Now they made a duck after the shooting when the
Speaker 1: shooting start. But he said that, and then when I said,
Speaker 1: somebody walked up to me and puffs car. He had
Speaker 1: blue fool, white shirt, blue boo boats at a peanut
Speaker 1: looking head, you understand. And they said, mean, how do
Speaker 1: you know that? I said, he walked up to the
Speaker 1: calling me a coup with me and puff car. So
Speaker 1: now we put that guy to see. So now whether
Speaker 1: he saw all of it or not, he saw the
Speaker 1: guy in that car, he saw that guy in that car.
Speaker 1: I saw that guy come up to me and pump
Speaker 1: the l a p. He shows me a picture, a picture.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, the guy that walked up
Speaker 1: to you, can you actually place him? And everybody want
Speaker 1: to notice, can you actually place that guy as being
Speaker 1: the shooter? Can you actually say he's the one that
Speaker 1: did it? I mean, he out started talking to you.
Speaker 1: Can you place him in the car and being a
Speaker 1: shooter At the same time, rug to be totally honest,
Speaker 1: and I'm always gonna be this way. I've known the
Speaker 1: guy in the blue suit, white shirt, blue boat top
Speaker 1: was in that car, a little seeds and Paul. When
Speaker 1: they said nothing, I could play some walking up to
Speaker 1: me five minutes five to be getting killed. I can't
Speaker 1: place him in the car. He walked in that direction.
Speaker 1: I've always said that, right, I can only place the
Speaker 1: guy right there with me and pup and walking in
Speaker 1: that direction. I wouldn't have never known he was in
Speaker 1: the car. If right, not two months later, not a
Speaker 1: two days while we was at the hospital, they said,
Speaker 1: a guy said, a guy in a uh dressed like
Speaker 1: the Nation of Islam shot b. I said, because I
Speaker 1: seen the guy walk in that direction. He had a
Speaker 1: blue shuit on, white shirt, blue balltop. You know there,
Speaker 1: you know, looking at I can't place him. I can
Speaker 1: only put him in the going in the direction, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Five minutes later, five minutes later.
Speaker 1: But if they would have said he it was a
Speaker 1: guy with a blue suit, a Nation of Islam's guy
Speaker 1: and I and I said the color, and they said yeah,
Speaker 1: then I would have never known the The code thing
Speaker 1: about it is is you guys just doing the same
Speaker 1: thing that we're doing over here. About five we and
Speaker 1: we all blame and who should have did what? And
Speaker 1: why they didn't do what And that's the same thing
Speaker 1: you're going through. That's the that's the same thing everybody
Speaker 1: is going through. And I think everybody has to blame.
Speaker 1: You know, if if the homies would have took care
Speaker 1: of the situation with Tupuck opposed to Tupac doing it,
Speaker 1: then it would have it would have directed the attention
Speaker 1: in a in a you know, a different way. This
Speaker 1: is what I believe. But and then if if like
Speaker 1: you said, if only I could take that day back
Speaker 1: and do it different, Dan Bicky probably would have still
Speaker 1: been here. I would have never got to the car,
Speaker 1: I would have never gotten the call puff. But see,
Speaker 1: the thing about it is is that you know, um,
Speaker 1: if I hadn't known that, my friends them, what they
Speaker 1: did was they was at Steve Stoutsingam house and they've
Speaker 1: seen something that that wasn't right up there, and it
Speaker 1: looked like a set up. And because they from the
Speaker 1: street and their gangsters that they was coming to set
Speaker 1: tell us, YO, don't go up to that party because
Speaker 1: it's a set up up there. It wasn't a party
Speaker 1: in the hills. Now, when I talked to some guys
Speaker 1: out there and I talked to some people on the
Speaker 1: other on other they told me, yo, they was waiting
Speaker 1: for y'all to come in the hills. At first. Some
Speaker 1: people was waiting for us to come up the hill
Speaker 1: because they knew Steve Stop was giving a party up
Speaker 1: there and Puffna was invited. So huh, I said, Puffy
Speaker 1: knew about all this. He was told that he's just
Speaker 1: set up, yo, Bro. He was told not to go
Speaker 1: to the party. I told him not to go to
Speaker 1: the party before we left Steve Stop, I mean Andrerell's house.
Speaker 1: I told him, still hum and he still went. He
Speaker 1: still went. This is what people don't understand. And then
Speaker 1: you gotta look at me. I'm the number every guy
Speaker 1: who was coming from Cali when they came in New York,
Speaker 1: Matt ten exhibits, uh Nate dog who is bodyguarding them. Me.
Speaker 1: You understand, I'm not dude. So now I look bad
Speaker 1: because not big gas kilt on my watch. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff for me. You understand what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because this dude ain't listen to what I told him.
Speaker 1: Y'o listen to me. I believe punk Girl was putting
Speaker 1: that stuff to the I believe kids because kill was
Speaker 1: right there. I said, we can't go to that party, man,
Speaker 1: so people gonna come and kill us. Man. People have
Speaker 1: told me that a dude that was in the federal
Speaker 1: jail out there, he's out now, he's up now he
Speaker 1: caught gave me a phone call. He said, big James.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, what's up? Man? He said, Yo, best stuff?
Speaker 1: I said, all day everything. He said, they can come
Speaker 1: to get y'all. Man. I get a call from my
Speaker 1: man Chas Whim. He said, Yo, it's gonna be some
Speaker 1: street niggers coming at y'all to night. He went to
Speaker 1: that sting Stock party on the hill. He left up
Speaker 1: because I told him he was at the museum, man,
Speaker 1: and it looks shady. So he was coming to the
Speaker 1: museum's crew and and two of them is still alive.
Speaker 1: Was on the corner when dad got stopped. Wow, they
Speaker 1: saw it go down. They you know, they still us
Speaker 1: chase the guy. They followed us to the hospital. The
Speaker 1: puss got ready to lead a hospital. He had his
Speaker 1: crew and he tends to follow us and plus them
Speaker 1: stop the car on the highway and go tell Chad, yo,
Speaker 1: we don't heed go all that damn. So, So how
Speaker 1: did guys how they feel about Puppy now, and I
Speaker 1: mean Puppy still living in doing this thing, and they
Speaker 1: they don't, they don't, they don't know. God bless the
Speaker 1: dad Chas is gone and they don't turning about Paul
Speaker 1: And I was one of his people. He wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: see nothing happen to me, right, I was gonna see
Speaker 1: nothing happen, and nobody from if he couldn't because he
Speaker 1: was that New York type of dude. He was the
Speaker 1: one with Big DEEDM and Eric Beta who set up
Speaker 1: that meeting with Shill to get that East Coast West
Speaker 1: Coast thing squads and Puff wun't even still a representative.
Speaker 1: So you think you wanted that, You think you think
Speaker 1: it was more beneficial to to send Biggie out there
Speaker 1: like that, because I mean, that's a mission that you
Speaker 1: shouldn't have went on for number one, after Tupac was killed,
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna go to the Lions. Then right
Speaker 1: after that, you knew it was gonna be repercussion after
Speaker 1: Park was killed, you know what I'm saying. He said,
Speaker 1: I didn't know any and everybody knew that that was
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem. Why here Why is this executive
Speaker 1: telling get no e t you know and everything it
Speaker 1: was no East coast, west coast wall that he didn't
Speaker 1: know about nothing when it fot dude that he paid
Speaker 1: good me tell him and then wolf his head and
Speaker 1: his security. He's had his bad boy tell him I'm
Speaker 1: not going and let you and he told and what
Speaker 1: told his mother, MI ain't going out there, don't want
Speaker 1: to go right, Like I was saying, man, you know everybody,
Speaker 1: everybody feeling a vault on some of the ship. But
Speaker 1: the fault ain't the blame ain't going to the right people. Right.
Speaker 1: They have the avenue and they get to look at
Speaker 1: this James, My story and your story and what you
Speaker 1: did for death Row and what I did with bad
Speaker 1: Boy is worth millions and millions of dollars. You underderstand
Speaker 1: these cats get other cats get get get avenues and
Speaker 1: get millions of dollars to tell our story. And they
Speaker 1: weren't even there and they don't know our story. They don't.
Speaker 1: They don't. Hollywood, the movie business, don't give us that
Speaker 1: avenue like they give it to those other cats. You
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. Let me say this, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna I can't even blame them because they take advantage
Speaker 1: of the situation us. They don't take advantage, James. They
Speaker 1: are given the situation, they were given it. But that's
Speaker 1: that's us, that's us doing these interviews. It's not us
Speaker 1: who is it. That's not us? Give it that that
Speaker 1: that we that we might do it giving them the
Speaker 1: interviews and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and trying to get compensated for the interviews. But that's
Speaker 1: not us. They don't. They don't. They don't give us
Speaker 1: the money. They don't give us the platform and the
Speaker 1: avenue to do that like they do them. So if
Speaker 1: we don't talk and say nothing, if we take ourselves
Speaker 1: by the equation, bro, then they have nothing, they have nothing,
Speaker 1: then they're gonna be If we do that, then they're
Speaker 1: ready and willing to pay us what we want to
Speaker 1: be paid to do it. So just that's their make up,
Speaker 1: their make up, their makeup, ship, Jane. They'll make ship
Speaker 1: and put it on a grand scale. Now everybody thinks
Speaker 1: the truth because we don't have a voice to speak
Speaker 1: on it. We don't have what they do. They don't
Speaker 1: give us the voice to speak on it. They make
Speaker 1: up ship and they make it be what they wanted
Speaker 1: to be. Well, just like we create these platforms, we
Speaker 1: can create a platform where brothers can push it together.
Speaker 1: Us can push it together and then do a documentary
Speaker 1: such as VT or anybody else, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we can do it ourselves, just like anster chronicles,
Speaker 1: just like what Norman is doing, just like what you
Speaker 1: was doing. We can put that ship out there ourselves
Speaker 1: and and and make the money. If Pufflican started business,
Speaker 1: if Shield and I can started business, I think I
Speaker 1: mean they opened the doors for us to do pretty
Speaker 1: much whatever we want to do it. Yo. Anybody brother
Speaker 1: that was trying to do some kind of distribution out there,
Speaker 1: you know what, they know where they are right now,
Speaker 1: where in jail, in jail, bro. They don't want us
Speaker 1: to have distribution to put our own stuff out there.
Speaker 1: The people that can do it, and they're not gonna
Speaker 1: do it. You got the Tyler Perry's gotta got a
Speaker 1: multimillion dollars there a studio. He will not for the
Speaker 1: avenue for things for street black uh black documentaries, things
Speaker 1: that happened in the streets that's coming up. He he
Speaker 1: won't do that now those those those those those white
Speaker 1: boys overseas might do it because they have no allegiance
Speaker 1: to America like that. Huh, So we we do have leeways,
Speaker 1: we do have options. Would you might have some options.
Speaker 1: We might have some options. But listen. The thing about
Speaker 1: it is is that brother, um, they had made this
Speaker 1: man so poisonous that they don't give us the avenue
Speaker 1: to see what we want to speak to state what
Speaker 1: we want to say when we go. Listen to me,
Speaker 1: I did MTV and sit down there for five hours.
Speaker 1: You got twenty seconds or thirty seconds or something. We
Speaker 1: don't have about that v H one the same thing.
Speaker 1: So now people saying that I never told this story.
Speaker 1: Now I've been telling this story and since since, you understand,
Speaker 1: but saying the same ship. But what happened that they
Speaker 1: used a portion that they need that they want you understand. Well,
Speaker 1: that's that's where the controversy come in. Like like saying
Speaker 1: that you said you gave three different stories, you picked
Speaker 1: out different people. That's the controversy. That's the what they need.
Speaker 1: But let's listen to me, brother, I see what what
Speaker 1: Grant Katie wasn't telling y'all. I had a lawyer with
Speaker 1: me right. You had a lawyer with me. This lawyer
Speaker 1: was the governor's personal one of the governor's personal lawyers
Speaker 1: because she was married to his brother. That's how powerful
Speaker 1: she was. She was doing me a solid because of
Speaker 1: my girl at the time. Yea, she went with me
Speaker 1: and she took notes. She could tell you. I said,
Speaker 1: these guys look something like him, but that's not him.
Speaker 1: And then when they showed me the picture of the
Speaker 1: guy in the blue suit, white shirt, blue boats, I said,
Speaker 1: this is the guy right here. They promised that they
Speaker 1: were coming back in about two weeks with a better photo,
Speaker 1: or they was gonna send for me to come out
Speaker 1: there and do a lineup. They never did, never heard
Speaker 1: from him since you're me, never heard from him from
Speaker 1: that point on. That's a facade, and that's a lot
Speaker 1: if they were taking me as they weren't. While you
Speaker 1: didn't hear the video tape. Anytime you pick out somebody
Speaker 1: in the lot lineup and you are law enforcement, you
Speaker 1: know what they make you do. What's that initially? So
Speaker 1: what you're saying that, if that wouldn't be a natural fact,
Speaker 1: they should have showed that that piece of paper, that
Speaker 1: document showing that you are an issue, the wrong person?
Speaker 1: Are you? You're saying who that was? And you put
Speaker 1: your an issue, that's what you're saying. They didn't do that, Okay,
Speaker 1: anybody you put out somebody law enforcement and if you've
Speaker 1: been locked up, you've been stuff like that. They said,
Speaker 1: you know this is a person right here, and you
Speaker 1: put your insues right there right because they have to
Speaker 1: prove that you pick that person out. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just a lot of ship and I think you know
Speaker 1: what it is, brother, this is what it is. You
Speaker 1: can't tell me what happened to me that day from
Speaker 1: somebody that you got stuff from ten years ago that
Speaker 1: wasn't doing the right thing in the first place, right right,
Speaker 1: right right, those officers doing what they were supposed to
Speaker 1: do in the first place. Then next stuff would have
Speaker 1: been at tight. You're gonna come eight years later and
Speaker 1: I'm speaking about great Kati and say and listen to me,
Speaker 1: whether I'm wrong or right or in different you know
Speaker 1: why Lucy's wasn't in that murder rap? What you know
Speaker 1: why I wasn't in that murder rap? No, it was
Speaker 1: totally a gift of what they was trying to say.
Speaker 1: If you was getting down to the if you if
Speaker 1: you you're gonna get all the weeks, roll right or
Speaker 1: in different? Right, roll right in different? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? You're important guy. After I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people. You know, the police can only go by
Speaker 1: what what what people were saying. Police can only rather
Speaker 1: report from what you say. And I think getting all
Speaker 1: of this different information, YadA, YadA, you know they put
Speaker 1: it together the way they see it. Um no, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, Wait a minute. I'm not giving I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not taking up. No, I'm not disagreeing
Speaker 1: with you. I'm shaking my head. Whereas that sometimes you
Speaker 1: have people that articulate things in a way that helped
Speaker 1: their case and help them. Because how can I say
Speaker 1: that with somebody's ship starts shooting, you dumped your head
Speaker 1: and you and you did, I can't say that. So
Speaker 1: let's look at you. Huh. Let's look at it. Let's
Speaker 1: let's look at it from from on the west coast side.
Speaker 1: Let's look at it from let's let's take your point
Speaker 1: of view. I've seen this boat tipe. Okay, you've seen
Speaker 1: this guy. But people on the West coast know that
Speaker 1: it wasn't that guy. Would you be quick to say
Speaker 1: they lying, or would you be quick to say, okay,
Speaker 1: that's a possibility if all if all the people on
Speaker 1: the West Coast saying that this was a different individual,
Speaker 1: this person they know for a fact that it would
Speaker 1: you be would you like kind of like shay, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, or why is all of them saying that? James,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying to you is that if the shooter,
Speaker 1: if the eyewitness of the shooter say, a guy in
Speaker 1: a blue suit, white shirt, blue bow tie, shot my brother,
Speaker 1: shot my man, shot my mentor shot the guy who
Speaker 1: taught me how to wrap you understand, And I see
Speaker 1: this guy walk down the street in that direction, and
Speaker 1: five minutes later that person is shot. I'm not going
Speaker 1: about what nobody else saying, but that person who said
Speaker 1: this is the individual who shot him, because he is
Speaker 1: the eyewitness, no matter who or what somebody's saying or
Speaker 1: what nobody articulately later, you know, if you get a guy,
Speaker 1: if you get that person in that blue shoot in
Speaker 1: that white shirt and that blue boat top in court
Speaker 1: and you gotta you gotta jury of twelve and Lucy's
Speaker 1: get on that stat stand and say that's the guy
Speaker 1: right there in the blue suit, white shirt, blue boat
Speaker 1: time that shot my friend that night. Who the jewelry
Speaker 1: gonna believe. They're gonna believe the person that saved, that
Speaker 1: honestly saved and can point you out and say that's him.
Speaker 1: They're gonna believe. They're gonna believe that. I'll witness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna they inclined to believe witness. Now if I
Speaker 1: put him in going in that direction, they're gonna believe
Speaker 1: he was on that street because they got the picture
Speaker 1: and he me him and Puff. You know, Puff is
Speaker 1: in this car. I'm outside the car in the driveway,
Speaker 1: and I stopped him. The FBI at the FBI asked
Speaker 1: me and the l A p D. Did you have
Speaker 1: your gun on me? Yes, I pulled my gun. He
Speaker 1: looked at my gun. I put me, put my arm down,
Speaker 1: looked him in this. He looked at me and with
Speaker 1: the other direction. You understand, he said, Joe, this MF
Speaker 1: is ready. He that's the he got his gun out.
Speaker 1: If I pulled my weapon. I gotta make sure because
Speaker 1: if he pulled his weapon, already got my mind's out.
Speaker 1: I'm double tapping coming up. I'm studying double tapping coming
Speaker 1: up like I'm trained it. Two. You understand I'm not
Speaker 1: pulling no punchers with because I want to go home
Speaker 1: the minds. So now if he he goes and sees me,
Speaker 1: don't say nothing, walk in the direction. And five minutes
Speaker 1: later somebody out witnessed him as shooting. I don't care
Speaker 1: if Jesus Christ is in the courtroom and defended him,
Speaker 1: the jury gonna say, well, it was an outwitness that
Speaker 1: placed him there. It was eye witness that put him
Speaker 1: in the car. It was an eye witness that said
Speaker 1: he shot. So they see him in a car, they
Speaker 1: see him nothing to know that it was somebody dressed
Speaker 1: like them, somebody from the Nation of Islam. But now
Speaker 1: the the l aple wanna make up something totally different,
Speaker 1: and then they want to do it because you gotta
Speaker 1: realize that that was some professional ship. Brother, the way
Speaker 1: they set that up, that was some professional ship. That
Speaker 1: wasn't no street ship. They knew where to get away
Speaker 1: because say I found out this. I found that the
Speaker 1: death Road was two blocks away from that that place,
Speaker 1: about two or three blocks away from that place. Right now,
Speaker 1: when we chase after the guy guy, all of a
Speaker 1: sudden we get to tweet when we turned that corner,
Speaker 1: we don't see ship. We don't see him the lights
Speaker 1: of nobody. Somebody told me that death roll office about
Speaker 1: two blocks away from that. I'm not saying they went
Speaker 1: up in there. I'm not saying they did that and
Speaker 1: they used that, but it was somebody who knew they
Speaker 1: already set up for shooting on the other side of
Speaker 1: the facility, had the police, had the fire people, had
Speaker 1: the emergency all on the other side of the facility,
Speaker 1: and when we came out the backside, so all that
Speaker 1: stuff y'all see people on the streets and all that
Speaker 1: doctorate stuff that wasn't on the side the big got
Speaker 1: killed on. They tried to doctor that and try to
Speaker 1: put that out there like it was, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1: I knew who was on that side of the street.
Speaker 1: So Bro, they can say whatever they want to say.
Speaker 1: I'm going by what was said that night. I'm going
Speaker 1: by what I saw that night, and I'm going by
Speaker 1: what I believe that happened. Well, I'm I'm understake this
Speaker 1: things happened and it don't have to Well it might
Speaker 1: have looked like a professional thing to you, but you know,
Speaker 1: Ship is just is well planned. Uh, people are organized,
Speaker 1: so you know, for for for that guy to bring
Speaker 1: him out of here, and and knowing the situation and
Speaker 1: what was going on, he knew it was a rich
Speaker 1: bottom line. He knew you know what it was. It
Speaker 1: wasn't just a risk to me and I and I
Speaker 1: believe this man. Listen to me, Big was leaving. Bad
Speaker 1: boy being had his own label. He's making his own label.
Speaker 1: He had enough groups on that label that was gonna
Speaker 1: be hot camraon Prolie Baltimore, Little Kim Little sees you understand,
Speaker 1: the commission and himself. Something just blanked out on here
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things. Man, do you think, man,
Speaker 1: that this could have been some organized man by somebody
Speaker 1: else man, just to further perpetuate the few that y'all
Speaker 1: was aving. Yeah, let me just take your something, man um.
Speaker 1: When we came back. When we came back outter chasing
Speaker 1: the guy, the first thing I did, I ran down
Speaker 1: to the parking lot. You understand, because people talk, so,
Speaker 1: you know, talking, And when I heard DJ Quick say, Yo,
Speaker 1: I think they got one of them back he on
Speaker 1: the cell phone. I think they got one of them
Speaker 1: bad boy niggas. They said they was gonna get him.
Speaker 1: So now whoever he was around, whoever he was around,
Speaker 1: wherever we heard that, I mean, somebody was setting up
Speaker 1: to do something. So in the grand scheme of things,
Speaker 1: it was planning, all right, and and and it it
Speaker 1: should have been planned. And this is me saying, because
Speaker 1: here you really a ward and then now Tupac is dead,
Speaker 1: and then then it gotta be some type of repercussion
Speaker 1: because it is own. It should have been repercussions way
Speaker 1: before this. I know, we got we got, we got
Speaker 1: the mom in the South Side fighting each other over
Speaker 1: bad Boy and death Row. So let's say it's planned.
Speaker 1: Let's say this. We're blaming everything and everybody else. Two
Speaker 1: people and Cahusa, all this other ship. Why we don't
Speaker 1: blame ourself for for putting ourselves in positions to to
Speaker 1: do ship like this to each other. Here we are
Speaker 1: killing for and doing this for for other people, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, when it didn't even have to
Speaker 1: go there. So let's blame ourselves for organized our own situations.
Speaker 1: This is this is our fault. All this ship is
Speaker 1: our fault. And there's a lot of people there because yeah,
Speaker 1: we were young, dumb and full of come back. Then
Speaker 1: we were young, dumb and full of comeback. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what I'm trying to check. So let's
Speaker 1: not blame all the people it was. It was. It
Speaker 1: was our fault. We made a lot of mistakes back
Speaker 1: in the days. Uh, we was with the beef. We
Speaker 1: was with the beef like montherfucker because it was something
Speaker 1: to do at the time. And and and people were
Speaker 1: eaten off of this beef. Motherfucker's was getting paid for
Speaker 1: the war. You know what I'm saying, Let's stay being compensation,
Speaker 1: not getting what they wanted, but was getting paid for
Speaker 1: this ship. So it ain't it ain't that white dude
Speaker 1: over there or that white dude around the corner. We
Speaker 1: was at war. We this ship could have stopped a
Speaker 1: long time ago. Think I'm gonna I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: five grand cut it that cut it off. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you fifty thousand, y'all stop this ship. We we
Speaker 1: we can't. They were trying to do that. They was
Speaker 1: trying to do that brother brother before before popat up,
Speaker 1: hit him out, hit him up. They was trying to
Speaker 1: do that. Even though the circumstances because listen, let me
Speaker 1: just tell you something. If Wolf was responsible for Jake
Speaker 1: getting killed like people try to portray that in that image,
Speaker 1: because he wasn't, because Wolf was right next to Should
Speaker 1: when Jake got killed. You understand. So now if what
Speaker 1: should one have never said I could squash you? Should
Speaker 1: would have never said I could squash the beat when
Speaker 1: when Eric b and them decided you we got we
Speaker 1: can't make let's watch the death row thing. Should would
Speaker 1: have said that somebody should have cap would have said, nah, man,
Speaker 1: the bad boy niggas killed my man. You understand, we
Speaker 1: can't squash it to one of them guys stopped. That
Speaker 1: wasn't the conversation back then, Puff All, Puff, All Puff
Speaker 1: I had to do was send a representative, whether it
Speaker 1: could have been Zip or anybody from this camp, a
Speaker 1: Wolf of anybody to that meeting. They all went to
Speaker 1: the mirage. They was all partying together. You understand, that's
Speaker 1: all you have to do. We'll send somebody or say somebody,
Speaker 1: I'm talking for bad boy and everything like, this is
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We're gonna squash. His head puffed
Speaker 1: aside and he said, that's them niggas. I ain't fucking
Speaker 1: with him, y'all making me look bad by even fucking
Speaker 1: with him, Nicks, that's what he said, zip y'all making
Speaker 1: me look bad. Do you understand that he didn't want
Speaker 1: to boss enough. That's the truth behind it. Brother. He
Speaker 1: could have said, Yo, okay, we was in. We was
Speaker 1: in We was in l A and y'all and they
Speaker 1: was in New York. They was in New York. He
Speaker 1: could have said, yo, listen to him. Man, all right,
Speaker 1: Wolf coming over there? All right, Wolf there is is
Speaker 1: coming over y'all. Y'all figured out or everything like that,
Speaker 1: And I'm whatever they say, I'm good with. If Shook
Speaker 1: was the street nigga or real street guy, and he
Speaker 1: knew Wolf had killed him, and wolfs that me and
Speaker 1: Shik was cool, man, I should have never stopped talking
Speaker 1: to him. Wolf said that out of his own mouth.
Speaker 1: I stopped working with him because of fuck. So, now,
Speaker 1: if Wolf was the real shooter and what killed Jake,
Speaker 1: Shugar said, no, nigga, if he was real, I want
Speaker 1: that nigga head. He killed my man. Oh, he killed
Speaker 1: our people. I want his head. That wasn't the conversation.
Speaker 1: And she never told nobody that Wolf killed Jack that's
Speaker 1: not true because he was right next now, now, down, down,
Speaker 1: hold on, let me let me defend ship on that one. Uh.
Speaker 1: When he came back, it was said, who did it?
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna ain't gonna go into the logistics of
Speaker 1: of of how it was put down how I was saying.
Speaker 1: But it did come back that that guy was the guy.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, bud, you can't tell me what she
Speaker 1: came and said at home. I don't know what he said.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Let me, let me, let me,
Speaker 1: let let me. Let me tell you some funny ship.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you some funny ship. We was all
Speaker 1: at Envies. We was all at Envies. Should walk through
Speaker 1: the door. My kid's mother was right in the middle
Speaker 1: of the door. I'm in the corner peeping game in
Speaker 1: the back. M shove walks in Envies with the cigar
Speaker 1: in his mouth and everything like that. My my my
Speaker 1: kids mother stopped and she said, oh, shouldn't I okay?
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, baby, how are you doing? And grabbed
Speaker 1: him and hugged him. Right. Wolfman was in the club
Speaker 1: that night too. They was at the bart together, brother.
Speaker 1: So I can't see that man having a drink with
Speaker 1: that dude after he killed this man. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. I had much love for meat and carried
Speaker 1: them from being math. Much love for him. Every time
Speaker 1: I see him that come to party. Everything I said
Speaker 1: called Blanche. You understand I'm saying Southwest here. Tell you
Speaker 1: called Blanche when him and Wolf had that problem in
Speaker 1: Atlanta and Wolf didn't make it. We was in Kent. Cool.
Speaker 1: He came up to me, Yo, I got number. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got holes down there. Anything you want to drink,
Speaker 1: anything we want to eat, Big man, come to the room.
Speaker 1: Chad had the junior presidential sweet Task is right there
Speaker 1: with me. I told against the with gainst the dudes
Speaker 1: around them, I said, my man, let me just say this.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened between you and Wolf, but
Speaker 1: we always family, and he not here today based on
Speaker 1: whatever happened between y'all two. No disrespect, bro, I can't
Speaker 1: drink with you. He said, I respect, and he went
Speaker 1: and I went my way. I had not, but we
Speaker 1: was all family. You unders I can't see Shoots standing
Speaker 1: at the ball with this nigger with the few dudes
Speaker 1: he had with him, and said he knew he killed
Speaker 1: Jake and he didn't do not a signal. That's like
Speaker 1: a while right now. I didn't she we didn't know
Speaker 1: what he did when he came to New York. And
Speaker 1: and that's why I can't I can't speak on that.
Speaker 1: I can't elaborate on what he did when he came
Speaker 1: to New York. I know what men home? How did
Speaker 1: everybody get that guy named a no of Woldau? Because
Speaker 1: you know what, let me just tell you something, because
Speaker 1: of this is what it is. They put it on
Speaker 1: Bad Boys, right, But the only one who was doing
Speaker 1: the only one that could have done something like that
Speaker 1: or would have done something like that for Bad Boy
Speaker 1: was probably Wolf Risk or whoever they put down to
Speaker 1: do it. Do you understand so that whether okay, let's
Speaker 1: say that, it's whether it was Wolf or whoever it
Speaker 1: was somebody from Bad Boy camp. Japon know when he
Speaker 1: asked Cat that was a real motherfucker. I got mad
Speaker 1: at shoot because with lost, I mean, Jake lost his life,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I don't think she
Speaker 1: could have made that call and said I'm doing the
Speaker 1: interview serving with that. I'm not that that should couldn't
Speaker 1: come back and say, oh, that beefing we were squashing
Speaker 1: that after Jake. It's it's full blown now because I
Speaker 1: just yeah, how could not not not look what you're
Speaker 1: just saying now, come on, put it into content. How
Speaker 1: could should make that decision on the death row East
Speaker 1: Coast beat? If Wolf had to kill Jake and they
Speaker 1: was willing Eric beat noticed to be true, Big DNA
Speaker 1: notice to be true. You understand, how can he can
Speaker 1: make that call? If Whoof was really the one who
Speaker 1: did to kill? He can only he can only speak
Speaker 1: on who did it? Which how how could you make
Speaker 1: that call? It sussed to be he can't, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You can't make that call. My point example,
Speaker 1: because he knowing himself, Whoof was right next to him
Speaker 1: when Jack got killed? And you know that's it's a
Speaker 1: whole lot. And let me tell you. Let me just
Speaker 1: tell you. And Wolf told me that is something man,
Speaker 1: He said, men, I kill that dude? Who said men,
Speaker 1: I don't kill that dude. Whether he did it or not,
Speaker 1: it was somebody from Bad Boy, we know that. So
Speaker 1: everybody is is guilty by association, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like like all the ship that we do, somebody I
Speaker 1: funk with you. Something happened you're going to jail because
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm it's guilty because I was there accessory
Speaker 1: after the fact that whatever the case might be, your
Speaker 1: law enforcement to tell me if I'm wrong. No, you're right.
Speaker 1: It's called rick It's called Rico law. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: Accessory had to the fact get you damn near the
Speaker 1: same thing. Oh most well, you there, it's a slam
Speaker 1: on the wrist. But you're gonna go to jail for it,
Speaker 1: just like just like somebody saying somebody killing somebody, the
Speaker 1: person sent them to kill him gets more time to
Speaker 1: the person who paid to kill him. That's right, So
Speaker 1: on on on. On another note, yeah, you and Reggie,
Speaker 1: You and Reggie. You know, I think you and Reggie
Speaker 1: should have had that personal phone called y'all y'all should
Speaker 1: well when he come home, have that personal uh conversation
Speaker 1: to to fix some of the things that it was.
Speaker 1: It was your brother I spoke to. It was a
Speaker 1: misunderstanding brother. I was talking about Greg Katy. I was
Speaker 1: talking about Reggie giving Grant Kati on that information. And
Speaker 1: I had that conversation I had to Reggie. I had
Speaker 1: that conversation with Reggie. You understand, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about is what I'm talking about is And I
Speaker 1: heard you said on the on the on the interview
Speaker 1: Reggie and his dad speaking on Reggie and Reggie right
Speaker 1: singing right, y'r litten, listen to me. Check it out, brother,
Speaker 1: check it out. If you look over the indictment in
Speaker 1: the paperwork, they charged Reggie right singing, just like they
Speaker 1: charged Reggie right right. You understand. So now somebody had
Speaker 1: to come forward, and the Fast want somebody to come
Speaker 1: forward and take that. You understand now, if Regny said
Speaker 1: my father didn't have nothing to do with it, that
Speaker 1: I met bank account may have been in his name,
Speaker 1: but I was using that because I had access to it,
Speaker 1: the launching money through it. If I was, if I
Speaker 1: was using this stuff to do this and do that,
Speaker 1: then the Fast look at that and say, okay, give
Speaker 1: us something. All investigations. Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: Whether you if you want, you charge to something. Man,
Speaker 1: the fans want something, and they want more than what
Speaker 1: they already know. If I already know that, you can't
Speaker 1: give me that, give me something that I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's new enforcement works. Here we go again. Here we
Speaker 1: go again, James. The speculation as a motherfucker. And and
Speaker 1: Reggie did get his dad on. I just tell you
Speaker 1: how we work. I know. Well, listen to me, Reggie. Right,
Speaker 1: Reggie did tell them that his dad had nothing to
Speaker 1: do with it, got him up the hook, which you
Speaker 1: should have. Pops ain't getting down like that. So let
Speaker 1: me ask you something. Let me ask you something. You're
Speaker 1: being the law enforcement, that you being investigator? Why do
Speaker 1: you believe him? Why do I believe Regie? Right? I
Speaker 1: believe Reggie because you you got you missed on the point. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm an investigator. Right, I got you and your you
Speaker 1: and your your your your brother. I got you and
Speaker 1: your brother. You said my brother ain't had nothing to
Speaker 1: do with that, Well, I got both of you. Are
Speaker 1: you using this account? How not know that's a hundred
Speaker 1: some thousand dollars extra and his account? How do you
Speaker 1: not noticed that in the third like that? I don't
Speaker 1: believe it. Why should I believe you as an investigator
Speaker 1: because you tell me that your brother had nothing to
Speaker 1: do with it? You might just be mad enough to
Speaker 1: take all the time and do something, or your brother
Speaker 1: might say, you're my brother, James don't have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with this. Do you understand. So now as an investigator,
Speaker 1: what I gotta do is I wanna I want to
Speaker 1: make my case either bigger or better or clad type.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, Okay, brother, say your father don't
Speaker 1: have your brother don't have nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: What can't you get me to prove that your brother
Speaker 1: will have nothing to do with it or give me something?
Speaker 1: That's if any investigator who does investigations, that's just wait
Speaker 1: a minute, investing the investigator has nothing Beny to do
Speaker 1: with it. He's out there to investigate. Now, I've been
Speaker 1: to jail multiple times, and I know if if, if,
Speaker 1: if I'm saying my brother ain't got nothing to do
Speaker 1: with it, that week is your case. Because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: can't understand if I have to to say my brother
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to do with it nine times out
Speaker 1: of tend the law. Don't want to go there and
Speaker 1: say he knew, because you gotta prove to the jury
Speaker 1: that he had well, he knew exactly what was going
Speaker 1: on when that money was placed. So brother, brother, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, let mean Benish Jane. The prosecutor don't want
Speaker 1: to take that chance because trying to make him look
Speaker 1: wait a minute, trying to make Dad, but like he knew,
Speaker 1: and you can't prove Dad actually knew. Reggie had access
Speaker 1: to the account, which I'm Reggie said this before. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm speaking on it. So that's how his pops
Speaker 1: got off. You don't have to give no more or
Speaker 1: no less because he because he did that. And if
Speaker 1: he did more than that, why is he in jail?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Why is he in jail.
Speaker 1: You don't have You don't have nobody that was on
Speaker 1: this case speaking speaking bad on Reggie. Reggie still communicate
Speaker 1: with these cats. So Reggie, I think, honestly he doing time.
Speaker 1: I think because he was a police officer, he got
Speaker 1: less time. And I've said it on Gang Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I've said it on Games the Chronicles multiple times. I
Speaker 1: think if you're in law enforcements and you break the
Speaker 1: law like I break it, I think you should be
Speaker 1: uh sentence like like you were saying, just me, no no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. They should sence this. They should sensorce him,
Speaker 1: not him per se. Anybody in law enforced to get
Speaker 1: caught during the crime, we should sensence more time than
Speaker 1: they would than you because they're supposed to know better.
Speaker 1: You understand I'm saying, Yo, this dude said I pushed
Speaker 1: him in the face. I pushed in there and put
Speaker 1: my gun to his head. They was trying to give
Speaker 1: me ten and a half years, tending to a half years.
Speaker 1: I told I know, I didn't do it. I went
Speaker 1: to try. I won it. You understand. June six, two
Speaker 1: thousand eleven, I won the case. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying to you is is that they was
Speaker 1: trying to give me ten and a half years on
Speaker 1: an MF that was lying. It cost me over ninety
Speaker 1: two tho dollars altogether and court fees and everything, court fees,
Speaker 1: lawyers and all that stuff. What I'm trying to tell you, brother,
Speaker 1: is this is that based on just because you say
Speaker 1: somebody had nothing to do with it, they don't believe you.
Speaker 1: They're looking at the fact or a sun amount of
Speaker 1: time that this amount of money was in your account.
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me that you don't look at this account,
Speaker 1: You don't know where this money coming from. You ain't
Speaker 1: ask no questions about those money. Those are things that
Speaker 1: people who do legitimate investigations ask questions and do that.
Speaker 1: I don't care about what they do. I'm glad he
Speaker 1: only got a little time. I don't want to see
Speaker 1: nobody locked up in jail. But when they talk about
Speaker 1: investigations and federal investigations, I've been through it and I've
Speaker 1: done them. You understand. I've been through federal I got
Speaker 1: I got news articles, I got papers in everything where
Speaker 1: I've been investigated, I've been through. Cause they want one
Speaker 1: bad cop. They would rather have one bad cop than
Speaker 1: take crooks in the streets, you understand. And because of association,
Speaker 1: he was trying to get me for a long time,
Speaker 1: you understand. So what I'm trying to tell you, as brother,
Speaker 1: I understand that, and what I'm trying to say to
Speaker 1: you is is that I have nothing against Reggie. I
Speaker 1: don't have nothing. I don't care about that situation. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If we talk as men, we
Speaker 1: talk as men, we ain't never gotta be friends. You understand. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying about y'all. When y'all worked out
Speaker 1: y'all differences, you would think that that that situation would
Speaker 1: have been over. But when Reggie went to jail, you
Speaker 1: had did that? Nah? No, Bro, what what, what you
Speaker 1: didn't what you didn't see, what you didn't see, and
Speaker 1: what you don't understand. Reggie was allowing people and he
Speaker 1: was going at me still about certain things. And then
Speaker 1: he had laughed and play it off like he didn't
Speaker 1: know better, like he didn't know different. And I had
Speaker 1: already discussed that and had conversations with him about certain situations.
Speaker 1: I had always had conversations with him about, um, what
Speaker 1: you called pulling the gun on Sugar, Um see gun
Speaker 1: you understand? And then he said that he I said,
Speaker 1: he pulled the gun on see Gunnar and say, don't
Speaker 1: really roll, don't raise it. He said it was Keithie
Speaker 1: d And I don't know what Gene Deal talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't care what Jeane Deal is saying. I know
Speaker 1: who I pulled the gunna. Then he gonna gets out
Speaker 1: of Federal penitentiary and gets on Doggie Diamond said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I was don't pull the gun on Shugar. I was
Speaker 1: do wanta dent this and dent that and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: when I had already told Reggie it was said. Then
Speaker 1: Reggie went back and then try to downplay what I
Speaker 1: was saying to him and not that, and it was
Speaker 1: other other companies. I'm not trying to say I went
Speaker 1: at him because of that, but I was actually trying
Speaker 1: to express that Greg Kaden got his information from Reggie.
Speaker 1: He had to to me. That's what I believe, that's
Speaker 1: my personal belief, because he was the producer on my murder.
Speaker 1: Rap producers what they do. They gain information, They give
Speaker 1: people stuff, They make stuff happen for the people who
Speaker 1: are given a thing. And I just I told you,
Speaker 1: and I expressed that to you. Are you still lying? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm listening to you. Yeah, I expressed that to you.
Speaker 1: In Grant Katie book, he said that Reggie Wright told
Speaker 1: him that shouldn't I bought Bungee unempowered, just like the
Speaker 1: one that was seen on the scene with Big got
Speaker 1: killed you in Pucci Pucci, Pucci. Sorry about that, Pucci.
Speaker 1: So now, if Sugar is my man, like I said
Speaker 1: to you, there's no way I'm telling the police he
Speaker 1: bought anybody, no car that looked like somebody who was wanted,
Speaker 1: wanted for a murder. That's the last thing telling anybody.
Speaker 1: And that's in the book. That's in the book. Brother.
Speaker 1: I got that actually got the book, um, and I
Speaker 1: was reading it I ain't got you that part yet.
Speaker 1: Why would he why would he throw his man him
Speaker 1: schilking you, oh, y'all grew up together. Why would he
Speaker 1: throw his man under the buff like that? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I ain't read it. I ain't ready, but I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna downplayed either. Uh. I'm gonna read the book.
Speaker 1: And if that's in the book, I'm that's something I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask Reggie. You know what I'm saying. But I
Speaker 1: don't think every everybody knows how Reggie is. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: how Reggie. He likes the bullshit, He he with it
Speaker 1: um anybody that he feels that attacks him, he's gonna
Speaker 1: Atteck back with vengeance. He's gonna come with vengeance and
Speaker 1: and and and he's gonna try to prove his point.
Speaker 1: Everybody know that's Reggie. I've been doing Reggie from from
Speaker 1: from way back, and like I told, respect him. I
Speaker 1: respect your loarty to him, and I respect what you're
Speaker 1: saying and everything like that. But you know, you know, guys,
Speaker 1: I know from way in the back and the back
Speaker 1: I got the same loargety to him and everything like that.
Speaker 1: Did I did? I know? I'll die for did I
Speaker 1: go to war with the whole nine yards? But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying to you is that it justin seemed feasible
Speaker 1: for him to throw his man under the bus like that.
Speaker 1: And and if Greg can't he lie on him by
Speaker 1: saying that he just should sure have suited him for
Speaker 1: putting that in the book and saying that, well, I
Speaker 1: don't think I don't think Greg would lie. I don't
Speaker 1: think he would put it out there knowing that that
Speaker 1: him and Reggie is also cool. So if it's in
Speaker 1: the book, then one would have to assume that Reggie
Speaker 1: said it. Um you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I truly believe that, you know, our our fight after
Speaker 1: the beefs is. I don't think it's necessary. I think, man,
Speaker 1: some abody need to come to a medium and say, okay, man,
Speaker 1: this ship has been over twenty years. We don't need
Speaker 1: to keep coming after each other. I'm not coming after
Speaker 1: nobody from death Row. That's not my ploy, that's not
Speaker 1: my plan, you understand, you know, Like, um, if if, if,
Speaker 1: if I have to apologize for Reggie for putting that
Speaker 1: out there, for saying that, I apologize. I don't have
Speaker 1: no problem that I don't have to deal with him.
Speaker 1: I don't have to speak with him. I don't have
Speaker 1: to do nothing. I apologize as a man the way
Speaker 1: I put it out there. My my object was to
Speaker 1: get at how Greg Katie got his information and how
Speaker 1: Greg Katy trying to make like he is super detective.
Speaker 1: But then he left a whole lot of witnesses out
Speaker 1: that didn't go to what he wanted to say. You understand,
Speaker 1: those three girls that was walking on the side of
Speaker 1: the car, you understand on the street, he didn't even
Speaker 1: question them. He he didn't. He didn't even and bring
Speaker 1: them to the table or stuff like that. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying for my whole thing about it is
Speaker 1: is that it's a lot of things that he left
Speaker 1: out that because it didn't pertain to what the thing
Speaker 1: that he wanted to draw. And that's kin I don't
Speaker 1: care ask your question. Can ask you a questions. If
Speaker 1: you've been in law law enforcement, if a witness don't
Speaker 1: seem credible, would you use them first? Of I would
Speaker 1: have to, I would have to interview I would have
Speaker 1: to interview him first and totality to see where he's
Speaker 1: not credible wet right, then would you still use him
Speaker 1: if you knowing that this might hurt my case, would
Speaker 1: you I was trying to think that it might hurt,
Speaker 1: like like, why would it hurt your case? Let's say hurt.
Speaker 1: Tak it hurt. Come on, man, it's just i'm and
Speaker 1: I'm speaking law enforcement terms, telling the harminology. If if
Speaker 1: it happens every day, if this witness don't seem credible,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna use them. If this witness is known
Speaker 1: not to be truthful in a certain degree, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna use them. Am I right or wrong? I'm on
Speaker 1: and ife, I'm gonna calling your accus over. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: So that's what you're use. You're using the word that
Speaker 1: you're using the word in which you gotta say. Well,
Speaker 1: I can't tell you what to say. But if the
Speaker 1: witness is not if the witness is paying the atmosphere
Speaker 1: that's not feasible to your case, you understand, or it's
Speaker 1: going against what you say. Like if the witness say, oh,
Speaker 1: he was there at eleven thirty and I've seen him
Speaker 1: jump in the cab, but then somebody said, yo, he
Speaker 1: was there at eleven forty five or twelve o'clock and
Speaker 1: he did that at twelve eleven. But the one witness said, yo, no,
Speaker 1: he jumped in the cabinet eleven thirty five, eleven forty
Speaker 1: or eleven thirty and other women say, now he was
Speaker 1: leven to twelve o'clock. You're not yours down, jumped in
Speaker 1: the cab. It all boards down to. But what what
Speaker 1: what you do is is that you might not bring
Speaker 1: the thing. But then what if the defense have that
Speaker 1: witness there? What if did he not there for you?
Speaker 1: But the defense had that witness that, and the defense
Speaker 1: can say, yo, listen here, I took a picture of
Speaker 1: him getting in the cab at this time. You understand boom,
Speaker 1: because he was a stock. That's why I took a picture.
Speaker 1: So my whole thing about it is it is based
Speaker 1: on what suits your case. As you said, So if
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that it was a guy walked up
Speaker 1: to me and puff and he had a boat Town
Speaker 1: blue suit, white shirt, you understand the peanut looking head.
Speaker 1: And then a witness saying I've seen him pull a
Speaker 1: gun out of the window and shoot my friend. And
Speaker 1: let's not pertaining to you what the case and what
Speaker 1: director you want. You're not gonna use those witnesses in
Speaker 1: your case. Okay, once again the way you want to go.
Speaker 1: Once again, it goes to a credibility because if if
Speaker 1: if they looked at that and took what you said
Speaker 1: and what uh I keep saying his name, Mace, Lucy
Speaker 1: little cis what he said, somebody should have been arrested.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, once again, it
Speaker 1: boils down the credibility, right, they felt that they didn't
Speaker 1: want to say he said this, and then he said this.
Speaker 1: So I'm asking the question. I mean, I I don't know.
Speaker 1: I ain't in the law. So Louke what I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: it's just it just gave up. Lucie's gave Lucie's gave
Speaker 1: an eyewitness account on that particular week on what he saw.
Speaker 1: Now I gave an eyewitness account or what I saw,
Speaker 1: you understand, not ten years later, not some stuff that
Speaker 1: was formulated for people to say their own ass from prosecution. Now,
Speaker 1: you take what was said that night that week, because
Speaker 1: that's the strongest part of your case, not something that
Speaker 1: was formulated ten years later. You take what was saying
Speaker 1: that night that week, you understand from people who was
Speaker 1: actually there, So why you think they never rested nobody
Speaker 1: because it probably would have. It probably would have went
Speaker 1: to the point whereas that L a p D may
Speaker 1: have been responsible or held responsible because they had rolled
Speaker 1: cops working in situations that could have caused the depth
Speaker 1: of Biggie Small and they would have been sued for
Speaker 1: millions and millions of dollars. And it wouldn't have matter
Speaker 1: whether he knew he was coming into the lines then
Speaker 1: knewing that it was a game. Ward Tupac just got killed.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows. Okay, Tupac gone that that can't just go by,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna fly. No, she's coming, and then coming
Speaker 1: out of here, uh, and then that that going back
Speaker 1: to callegy ship was out and then now here go
Speaker 1: people like, man, I dare these dudes to come down
Speaker 1: in and exactly know what I'm saying, Say, did you
Speaker 1: see me? On multiple occasions say there was more than
Speaker 1: one different people that wanted us? Then yeah, yeah, on
Speaker 1: multiple occasions, on multiple case we had a beat for
Speaker 1: somebody from the Nation of Islam is soult trained and
Speaker 1: I don't know today why I was that, but I
Speaker 1: know it was strong enough for Mo stop for the
Speaker 1: step in the dude chest you understand. Yeah, we had
Speaker 1: a beef. That's got because uh Snoop, guys, no, that
Speaker 1: got shot up right when the NGO got shot up
Speaker 1: here and random so was the due when they said
Speaker 1: Biggie get went into the radio station and told everybody
Speaker 1: that it is. That's true. That's true. Brother, he said,
Speaker 1: I don't see how y'all gonna let them do that
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. Man, you know the stuff he said, he
Speaker 1: shouldn't have said it, right, that's true. No, so right
Speaker 1: in the venture as if so, now you got snooped
Speaker 1: them people. That's what Snoop trying to say. Yo, we
Speaker 1: always people stuff like that. And then you hear the
Speaker 1: stuff gonna he was going and big, he was going
Speaker 1: in big on the radio. There's a lot of songs
Speaker 1: popping up now that he was going in big that
Speaker 1: they was releasing death fro so now. But he's saying
Speaker 1: like it was, that's you're gonna play that role. You're
Speaker 1: gonna play that role. But behind the scenes he was
Speaker 1: going at him, you know, talking about him bad. You understand.
Speaker 1: So now out you got that, then you got the
Speaker 1: fact that they painted the picture that Wolf killed Jake,
Speaker 1: and they painted the picture that Wolf or somebody from
Speaker 1: Bad Boy killed Jake in Atlanta. Those are three losses
Speaker 1: people from the West Coast has taken. Do you understand
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Oh yeah, and dudes from out there.
Speaker 1: My brother was out there at Stacktown. They don't play that.
Speaker 1: Just like anywhere else. They'll fight that. They'll kill for colors.
Speaker 1: You think they ain't gonna kill when their people come
Speaker 1: up there, or they ain't gonna try to hit somebody
Speaker 1: or do something. They have done it for less? Is
Speaker 1: that facts of what? Oh yeah, that's that's what hunted,
Speaker 1: all right. So now we know that I'm stupid for
Speaker 1: even going out there, because you gotta understand, this is
Speaker 1: what they told to get us out there. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do that. We're gonna be at the hotel, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do the studio, and we're gonna do radio. The studio
Speaker 1: and radio, and that's it. Even that's still dangerous. That's
Speaker 1: still dangerous. Yeah, because everybody knew y'all was coming. Everybody
Speaker 1: knew y'all was there to the alreadio and thing. I SI, okay,
Speaker 1: we got our chances, And then I thought public was
Speaker 1: gonna have hired those militian men. That he had before.
Speaker 1: That's what I was told. He had six guys from
Speaker 1: the sixth four or six guys that was mercenaries. And boy,
Speaker 1: they was on their ship. They knew what they were doing,
Speaker 1: right you say, I've trained with some people that was
Speaker 1: you know, from the d A, from the UH, from
Speaker 1: transit from UH, from the state police. And these guys
Speaker 1: was they on their things. They was on their stuff.
Speaker 1: So now I thought we was gonna have him. I
Speaker 1: called Kirk bro your Kirk, weint got the mercenary. Man.
Speaker 1: Now puff ain't on hire? No more security? What y'all
Speaker 1: gottas already? Next? We need more security? Brother? Do you
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying? But listen, James, we talked a
Speaker 1: lot about this stuff. Man. We're going back on this
Speaker 1: East coast, West coast runner, Yo. It's something that I
Speaker 1: want to say today, man, Yo. Put all that beside,
Speaker 1: all this behind us. Man. These young brothers are today. Man,
Speaker 1: they still think it can't happen to them. They still
Speaker 1: think that there's not uh Entita this out there to
Speaker 1: stop them. You understand, we see it today. Man. We
Speaker 1: trapped in our houses. You know, we go next to people.
Speaker 1: You understand, we go and try to form some some
Speaker 1: some some kind of rally or whatever like that. We
Speaker 1: all gonna we all could end up day. They didn't
Speaker 1: put this poison in this air, and they put this
Speaker 1: poison out here and these streets and stuff like that
Speaker 1: to stop us, you know what I'm saying, from stopping
Speaker 1: them right right? You know, because you gotta realize those
Speaker 1: people in China, they was put tisching it. They was
Speaker 1: going out there fighting the government, you understand, because they
Speaker 1: knew that that y G, they that five G, they
Speaker 1: knew all the stuff that was they was trying to do.
Speaker 1: So what they do They put out this epidemic. They
Speaker 1: put out this thing to stop them from gathering. They
Speaker 1: could kill you up from being next to somebody, you understand.
Speaker 1: And and and the golf of that, you know, even
Speaker 1: that we ain't even looking at it like that. You know,
Speaker 1: are people thinking there's a goddamn joke. I'm here to
Speaker 1: tell everybody out there that it's not no joke. My
Speaker 1: uncle just lost his daughter behind this this this virus
Speaker 1: um and and his granddaughter and grandson was uh subject
Speaker 1: to the ship. So it's some real ship fuck hanging out. Man.
Speaker 1: You gotta take we gotta take care of ourselves and
Speaker 1: and and the people around us. You know, we want
Speaker 1: to hang out, but then we go home and we're
Speaker 1: giving it to our kids. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: that was my little cousin case, but the kids got
Speaker 1: her daughter got an anagram, baby had it so thank
Speaker 1: god through the grates of guy that day home, but
Speaker 1: she lost their life. And uh, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: cold thing because we just buried my auntie on the
Speaker 1: February the fifth, and then she died a month after,
Speaker 1: just just a week and a half, two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: And we're not taking ship serious. We're not paying attention
Speaker 1: to what's really going on. What's been marm I mean, Jane,
Speaker 1: sorry about that, mom, Jane, mar James, Jane. Let me
Speaker 1: just say something. Brother, listen to president get on television.
Speaker 1: We got four or five people around him, five six
Speaker 1: people around him. I thought it was six ft or
Speaker 1: thirteen ft. Why they not worried? Why they don't see that?
Speaker 1: Why why I can't touch them, Why can't be a
Speaker 1: part of them, Why neither one of them happen? Did
Speaker 1: you ever look at that that the president in them
Speaker 1: gets on television and they shake hands. No social distance
Speaker 1: and everything like that. What he said to his cabinet.
Speaker 1: Some of the people in this cabinet did catch it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're not around him. They don't get on stage, right, right,
Speaker 1: do you understand? And then they they're making known or
Speaker 1: something like that because that dude go home to his family,
Speaker 1: or that dude may be out and about what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: when the point that I'm getting to you is that
Speaker 1: is that they putting some out here to stop this.
Speaker 1: And then they spoke about this, and I was gonna
Speaker 1: talk about this on my show, don't you know? In
Speaker 1: nineteen nineties seven and the February issue of George magazine
Speaker 1: that's done by uh John F. Kennedy Jr. Right, he
Speaker 1: had an interview with Bill Gates, right, and Bill Gates
Speaker 1: talked about social distance. He talked about the internet taking
Speaker 1: over or running the government, that the government wouldn't need
Speaker 1: so many different people. He talked about people not gathering
Speaker 1: in nineteen seven, and then he talked about in that
Speaker 1: magazine about that there will be viruses that will cause
Speaker 1: people not the social gathering. So you know, I look
Speaker 1: at this like this man and I'm not a conspiracy
Speaker 1: theorist or nothing. Like that. But this dude has done
Speaker 1: so much and and clear so many virus on the computers.
Speaker 1: He brought a virus real, he brought a virus life
Speaker 1: right right right, and look what it's doing to us. Man, Yo.
Speaker 1: And he talked about in and this is what this
Speaker 1: magazine was wrote in nine seven. And if anybody don't
Speaker 1: believe me, go look at that magazine. It's too it's too.
Speaker 1: Part of the article, right, it's too talking about it
Speaker 1: on two different parts in the magazine. I think it's
Speaker 1: not eight then one on one, then another part says
Speaker 1: anything when he mentioned about two thousand and twenty, right, dog,
Speaker 1: people don't see they talk about these stimulists, checks and
Speaker 1: everything like that. They're trying to this run the American
Speaker 1: government and American people, you understand, to bring it into
Speaker 1: like a dictatorship. Yeah, to bring it to a dictatorship. Brother,
Speaker 1: So what you say to the to the to the
Speaker 1: people in New York that that want to hang out,
Speaker 1: that's not paying attention my man, brother shooting dice and
Speaker 1: playing See. Look, I was going to the I was
Speaker 1: going to the dentist. Brother, and I've seen brothers. It
Speaker 1: was six brothers on I'm gonna call him out on
Speaker 1: a hundred and twelve and Lenox Avenue while people was
Speaker 1: in the people were in the line of Fine Fair,
Speaker 1: waiting to go in the grocery store. They on the
Speaker 1: corner shooting dice with no gloves on their end, no notice,
Speaker 1: like it can't happen to them, right, I'm saying to
Speaker 1: the old saying, my grandmother used to tell me, boy,
Speaker 1: you don't believe thatat meets greasy, I'm saying the same thing.
Speaker 1: Got here. I'm going to go on Facebook, man, and
Speaker 1: and I see these these kids at a one year
Speaker 1: old birthday party. It's like them and the police come
Speaker 1: maybe Fort d And I see this little girl, she
Speaker 1: waving her hands and talking shipped to the police. I
Speaker 1: look closer. It's my goddamn niece, my niece out of here.
Speaker 1: Oh so she knew when I was calling. She didn't
Speaker 1: don't answer that that call. And I'm like wow. And
Speaker 1: then right after that my cousin passed. Now she'd get
Speaker 1: the picture that's not waiting to it and get close
Speaker 1: to home like that to really believe in what the
Speaker 1: fun is going on? This ship ain't no joke, So
Speaker 1: you know on that note, man, you know, I really
Speaker 1: appreciate you're taking the time out with us, man. And
Speaker 1: if you ever want to talk to me on your
Speaker 1: show or you know, we could compensate traveling up like today. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm willing for that. UM. I believe we're all good. UM.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're getting better from your your situation. You
Speaker 1: gotta just gotta keep exercising and doing your things. Uh,
Speaker 1: to go back to something, yeah, not not not to
Speaker 1: cut you all off. I want to go back to
Speaker 1: something real quick early than James said. And I'm glad
Speaker 1: you said that, man, because this has been kind of
Speaker 1: my thoughts. They've been trust slowly trying to introduce socialism
Speaker 1: to this country. If you see the pattern, this is
Speaker 1: an experiment almost like Okay, they send him brothers the
Speaker 1: twelve hundred dollar checks or whatever, right the right, the
Speaker 1: way they got the unemployment set up. Cats getting the
Speaker 1: extra six hundred dollars a week on top of the thing,
Speaker 1: just to stay at the cred. Right, you're trying. They're
Speaker 1: trying to break them, but they're trying to break the government.
Speaker 1: One see, let me just say something. It's only three
Speaker 1: governments in this whole country that don't owe the World Bank,
Speaker 1: and that the Cuba, Zimbabwe and uh, what's just North Korea?
Speaker 1: North Korea? All right, they don't owe the World bank ship.
Speaker 1: Do you understand me? They don't owe the World Bank.
Speaker 1: Only three countries that don't owe the World Bank ship, Zimbabwe,
Speaker 1: North Korea and Cuba. You'll understand that. So they want
Speaker 1: everybody to come up to their own banking system. You understand.
Speaker 1: Everybody already contribute to them. But once they what's it called,
Speaker 1: wipe everybody out. Now they get one currency, they had
Speaker 1: a currency that comes up under these phones. Everybody to
Speaker 1: get a phone, and all your money and all your
Speaker 1: bank account and all your money goes into that phone
Speaker 1: and to your bank things, to your bankings, to their
Speaker 1: banking system. You get it. You understand. They try They
Speaker 1: trying to. They what they're trying to do is they're
Speaker 1: trying to there's no reason how they They never gave
Speaker 1: nobody nothing in the first place. Right, they're given it. Great,
Speaker 1: they're giving it to break the country down, man, to
Speaker 1: sending it to a recession, to sending it to a recession,
Speaker 1: brother to know, and to a depression and that stuff. Yo,
Speaker 1: when we get out of this we'll probably be dead,
Speaker 1: you know, us in our fifties and sixties by time
Speaker 1: we get out of this. You think so, you think
Speaker 1: it's gonna take that long, bro, But listen to me, man,
Speaker 1: the depression took eight years. But to get out of
Speaker 1: the depression, and they just start seeing they just start
Speaker 1: seeing any possibility and promise into the sixties. Now this
Speaker 1: is this ship is going back to the drug dealing days.
Speaker 1: Watch to see when I'm telling you, this is gonna
Speaker 1: go back to the eighties. But it's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: for them to do it. Wow. Man, let's let let's
Speaker 1: hope we wrong, man. But but I don't doubt you.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think. I don't think we're wrong. Brother.
Speaker 1: They they've been setting up y'all. Listen to me, man.
Speaker 1: When they do they do different things to see can
Speaker 1: they get their way with stuff. That's how this, uh,
Speaker 1: the Luminati, that's how these systems work. When they got
Speaker 1: rid of when they knocked down those towers, those two
Speaker 1: towers and blamed it on those people stole all that
Speaker 1: goal from the World Track Center. You know, one of
Speaker 1: the biggest banks that held all the gold in the
Speaker 1: United States was in the world trade centers, right right,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Okay, check it out. When did
Speaker 1: goal ever disappeared? When when the girl every burning melt,
Speaker 1: they got none? They recovered no, none of that gold
Speaker 1: where that goal at? Well, we are greeting the motherfucker right,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't find that gold in problem United
Speaker 1: State where they go. Let when they got rid of
Speaker 1: robbing uh, those those those those Arabic countries, from all
Speaker 1: that gold that was here in the United States. Bro,
Speaker 1: that was one form of getting away with it. When
Speaker 1: they got rid of killing all those people that was
Speaker 1: at work in the trade center, there was one way
Speaker 1: of getting away with it. They said, we got away
Speaker 1: with that, Let's go to the next phase. They do
Speaker 1: different things that they already wrote about. This kid has
Speaker 1: already written the two Tolls of Babylon would be destroyed
Speaker 1: by two two birds. Wasn't that already want? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: tradamis well one of the lumin naughtic two Tolls of Babylon.
Speaker 1: A lot of this stuff is already written. Brother, there
Speaker 1: if if if, if UK did the same thing that
Speaker 1: they doing, giving that day to people money gaved people
Speaker 1: like that, and they ruined the UK economy and they
Speaker 1: haven't recovered from it yet. You understand, what do you
Speaker 1: think it's gonna do to the United States. It's gonna
Speaker 1: ruin the economy, Right's gonna ruin everything. On that note,
Speaker 1: I think everybody needs to follow up on this ship.
Speaker 1: I know, I do. Um, it's just a scary thing.
Speaker 1: It's a scary thing, not knowing where we're gonna go,
Speaker 1: not knowing if you don't see your grandkids and kids
Speaker 1: grow up because of the way they're running his mother planet. Um,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. But yeah, you know, let me ask a
Speaker 1: genie for the people out there. What's the name of
Speaker 1: your channel? Oh, it's uh the Gene Deal Show, Cooking
Speaker 1: a Conversation, y'all gotta right there, people, Gene Deal Show,
Speaker 1: Cooking and conversation. You know, like James said, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be going up with at the Chocolate up man. It's
Speaker 1: this beautiful thing, man, And see brothers getting along and
Speaker 1: moving forward to stuff. Man. That no people, James, you
Speaker 1: want to send them up? Man? Thanks for watching another
Speaker 1: episode episode fifty two or fifty three, I ain't sure.
Speaker 1: Episode fifty three with the games of Chronible and uh man,
Speaker 1: we appreciate y'all. Listening to us. Big ups, James Deal.
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