1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: The coronavirus has left the path of destruction across the 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: United States and the rest of the world. Millions of 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: people have lost jobs and livelihoods, and some people have 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: even died. These dates have left us all wondering one 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: will it end? And we have a lot of questions, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: ones in which no one seems to have answers. Digital 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: Soapbox Network is one of the few media outlets that 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: makes content specific for not dis urban America, but for 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: those that struggle across the world. We haven't went anywhere. 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: In fact, we got stronger and we had a lot 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: of talk about it was up, it was up? Oh nothing, 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: No that I go by James big Bro. I apologize, 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: I truly apologize. It's all good. It's all good. I 14 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: want to send out all whatever was articulated to you 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: in some kind of way. Um, I want to send 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: like I send my apologies out to you. And as 17 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: long as you know we are gentlemen first, you know 18 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, don't come into a conversation or anything 19 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: as a gentleman. Well we're good, brother, you know what 20 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Uh, I heard you lost. I know you 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: lost your brother to the game. I lost my brother. 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: I thought he was in the streets to St. Louis. 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: And I know I know of some of the pain 24 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: you may feel because I felt that pain too. You 25 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Right well? You know I'm I'm 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: actually getting over that. You know what I'm saying, my brother. 27 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: You know that the hatred I had, for sure. Um, 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty much over that. You know, I'm letting 29 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: the rest. I'm done with it. Uh. I know there's 30 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: nothing I can do about that, you know what I'm saying. Um, 31 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: I know you know I can't. But I can't be 32 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: mad at shild forever. I ain't trying to be mad 33 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: at you forever. You know. I can forgive, but I 34 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: can't forget. You feel me, But I'm not gonna go 35 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: every day feeling the way I used to feel. It 36 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: just wasn't healthy from me, you know what I'm saying. 37 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: So you know, and I know everybody across the board 38 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: field that way, you know, Biggie Mama, Tupac Mama. You know, 39 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: everybody lost somebody to this, to the bs. You feel me, So, 40 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think everybody just needs to get over it. Um. 41 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: You know, I listened to you talk and I listened 42 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: to a lot that you have to say about the situation, 43 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: about the way Puff was pretty much the same way 44 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: that should was. And you know, like I was telling 45 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: you earlier, a lot of people don't, don't you know, 46 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: they're paying attention to the wrong thing. You know, we're praising, 47 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, these two guys, but then we're not really 48 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: thinking about the depths of of of Tupac, Biggie and 49 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: all the other cats that lost their lives. We got 50 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: a lot of cats out of here that's dead behind 51 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: this East Coast West Coast ship, and and you know, 52 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: the guys that hate each other because of the situation. 53 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of it's a lot of us 54 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: involved in some ship that that shouldn't have never been. 55 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: And right down to day, we still got brothers not 56 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: working with each other on on some man, I ain't 57 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: working with that NIGGD ship, you know what I'm saying. 58 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: I listened to the interview you had with uh, what's 59 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: his name, Little Sees or somebody you had an interview 60 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: with with Mace, and and right off the top I 61 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: knew it wasn't. We can't get nowhere if we start 62 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: arguing with each other opposed to. You know, I think 63 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: y'all should have had a conversation before like we did before. 64 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: You know, y'all tapped in with each other and other 65 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: people can hear what the fun was going on. Uh, 66 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: we opened the door for social media to come in 67 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: and comment on the ship that we're talking about or 68 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: that what's going on now. Everybody voiced their own opinion. 69 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: But then we get mad at the ship of you know, 70 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: the comments that are being said because you had some 71 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: people on his side, you had a lot of people 72 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: on your side. I mean where we draw the line at. 73 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Everybody gonna voice stay own 74 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: opinion on on on how they felt. And you know, 75 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: one he said, you had a fister, why you didn't shoot? 76 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: If you was in the same boat, why you didn't. So, 77 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: I mean, that's my opinion on it. If he could 78 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: say that, why didn't he reacted sir kind of way 79 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: to the situation. Well, to piggyback on that Mace, Mace 80 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: was only being sadistic in the manner with which after 81 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: Big got killed. Me and Mace had a conversation directly 82 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: after Big got killed. You understand, I was one of 83 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: the people that he called. We spoke on the telephone, 84 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: you understand, And I could have been Mace raighted way 85 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: out the water because Brandy was not in the room 86 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: with Mace during the time they got killed, right. She 87 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: was trying to get Mace out the room because Mace 88 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: told me, Yo, Brandy kept calling me trying to get 89 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: me out the room, and I told I wasn't going nowhere. 90 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: I could have blew him out the water without because 91 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: he forgot that, he told me. Now, maybe she went 92 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: to the room after Big got killed to console him, 93 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: or whatever the fact they may be. I'm never said 94 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: Mace blew that I had blew that light at the corner, 95 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: you understand. Because the dude who was looking out for 96 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: Mace named Tone. He the one who saw the individual 97 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: pull a weapon at the corner, you understand. He told 98 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: him we think reverse or turn around? He forward. So 99 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: it's nothing I can do on that time. What do 100 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: I makes an innocent bystander? Right, so you know, and 101 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: and that acpect he knew the whole thing, but what 102 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: he had to do he had to save himself. He 103 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: had to save himself because he knew not to go 104 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: to the party. Puff ain't Puff ain't make him go 105 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: to the party like he made Beg go to the park. See, 106 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: people don't understand that every time Puff hit the streets 107 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: in California, I was next to him. I was right 108 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: next to him, except that one day and which he 109 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: took d Rock with him with Sally Richardson and some 110 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: other people so he could party or have fun or 111 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: do whatever they were doing. So he could convinced Rock 112 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: that he wanted to go to that party. He needed 113 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: to get big to that part. Even today, if you 114 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: hear snoop and somebody sent me him a snoop online 115 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: on Instagram and Pump brought up, you know, like it 116 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: was a fake East Coast West Coast Walk. How does 117 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: it fake East Coast West Coast Walk? When people lost 118 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: their life, people couldn't travel, people didn't feel safe. How 119 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: was that fake? But he still want to put that 120 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: out there because he don't want to admit so I know, Pump, 121 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: people don't want me, Yo, Jane, let it go, Let 122 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: it go, man, listen to me. I don't hate that boy. 123 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: I don't catch shit a bottle like I was telling 124 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: people up to day, I'm good like morm Jane. I 125 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: told you I ain't never gotta leave out my house 126 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: if I don't want to, and I get paid, I 127 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: pimped the mail man. Now, I set up my life. 128 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: I did everything that I could do and wanted to do. 129 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: You understand, so now I can live comfortable. You understand. 130 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm fifty six years old and I'm leaving it comfortably. 131 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm good. You understand. You know people who've been to 132 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: my house, people who've been around me. Yo. I got 133 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: old schools, I got old cars, I got old trucks. 134 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: I can get a new car, new truck, get anything 135 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: I want to in life. I set myself up for that, 136 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: and I tell my kids everything. When you turn the eighteen, 137 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: what you're doing the next five years, it's gonna determine 138 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: how you live the rest of your life. They went 139 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: to college, they go to they finished college, they're doing 140 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: their thing. One is still in college doing anything. Listen, 141 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm not upset and puff. I'm not upset 142 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: and none of this. It was an experience. But if 143 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: I could talk about it, I could be about it, 144 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: and I could teach and tell people about it. I'm 145 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: gonna do it. If they hate me for it, man, listen, 146 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: here they hated Jesus Christ. What they do They wear 147 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: him around his neck right now and call them God. 148 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: You understand, I have no problem with that. Okay, let 149 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: me let me, let me let me ask you this. 150 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: Going in law enforcement and then doing any time my 151 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: mother getting and shooting or drive by, whatever the case 152 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: might be. I think those cats did the right thing 153 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: being in that car. You know, when you hear gunshots, 154 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna sucking duck. You ain't gonna really see what's 155 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: going on in the first the first three seconds right there. No, 156 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: if you trained, if you were trained, you don't duck 157 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: for nothing. I don't know. I know, not a police 158 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: officer I'm talking about. I'm talking about guys, just just 159 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: an average street cat. Now. Particulate for those street cats, 160 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: because I know some serious street cats and it seems 161 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: like they got like like they got they got. I 162 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: would want to go to wall with them because I've seen. 163 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: Let me just say this, I know street cats, if 164 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: they in situations like that, they don't duck. They don't 165 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: what you call Lucy's said. You know he saw somebody 166 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: uh dressed like the Nation of Islam. You understand that's 167 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: a little c said. He said, somebody dressed like the 168 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: National Islam and then they they they they they started shooting. 169 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: Now they made a duck after the shooting when the 170 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: shooting start. But he said that, and then when I said, 171 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: somebody walked up to me and puffs car. He had 172 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: blue fool, white shirt, blue boo boats at a peanut 173 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: looking head, you understand. And they said, mean, how do 174 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: you know that? I said, he walked up to the 175 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: calling me a coup with me and puff car. So 176 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: now we put that guy to see. So now whether 177 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: he saw all of it or not, he saw the 178 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: guy in that car, he saw that guy in that car. 179 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: I saw that guy come up to me and pump 180 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: the l a p. He shows me a picture, a picture. 181 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, the guy that walked up 182 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: to you, can you actually place him? And everybody want 183 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: to notice, can you actually place that guy as being 184 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: the shooter? Can you actually say he's the one that 185 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: did it? I mean, he out started talking to you. 186 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: Can you place him in the car and being a 187 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: shooter At the same time, rug to be totally honest, 188 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: and I'm always gonna be this way. I've known the 189 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: guy in the blue suit, white shirt, blue boat top 190 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: was in that car, a little seeds and Paul. When 191 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: they said nothing, I could play some walking up to 192 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: me five minutes five to be getting killed. I can't 193 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: place him in the car. He walked in that direction. 194 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: I've always said that, right, I can only place the 195 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: guy right there with me and pup and walking in 196 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: that direction. I wouldn't have never known he was in 197 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: the car. If right, not two months later, not a 198 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: two days while we was at the hospital, they said, 199 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: a guy said, a guy in a uh dressed like 200 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: the Nation of Islam shot b. I said, because I 201 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: seen the guy walk in that direction. He had a 202 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: blue shuit on, white shirt, blue balltop. You know there, 203 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, looking at I can't place him. I can 204 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 1: only put him in the going in the direction, you 205 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Five minutes later, five minutes later. 206 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: But if they would have said he it was a 207 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: guy with a blue suit, a Nation of Islam's guy 208 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: and I and I said the color, and they said yeah, 209 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: then I would have never known the The code thing 210 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: about it is is you guys just doing the same 211 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: thing that we're doing over here. About five we and 212 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: we all blame and who should have did what? And 213 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: why they didn't do what And that's the same thing 214 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: you're going through. That's the that's the same thing everybody 215 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: is going through. And I think everybody has to blame. 216 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: You know, if if the homies would have took care 217 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: of the situation with Tupuck opposed to Tupac doing it, 218 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: then it would have it would have directed the attention 219 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: in a in a you know, a different way. This 220 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: is what I believe. But and then if if like 221 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: you said, if only I could take that day back 222 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: and do it different, Dan Bicky probably would have still 223 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: been here. I would have never got to the car, 224 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: I would have never gotten the call puff. But see, 225 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: the thing about it is is that you know, um, 226 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: if I hadn't known that, my friends them, what they 227 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: did was they was at Steve Stoutsingam house and they've 228 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,599 Speaker 1: seen something that that wasn't right up there, and it 229 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: looked like a set up. And because they from the 230 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: street and their gangsters that they was coming to set 231 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: tell us, YO, don't go up to that party because 232 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: it's a set up up there. It wasn't a party 233 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: in the hills. Now, when I talked to some guys 234 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: out there and I talked to some people on the 235 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: other on other they told me, yo, they was waiting 236 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: for y'all to come in the hills. At first. Some 237 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: people was waiting for us to come up the hill 238 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: because they knew Steve Stop was giving a party up 239 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: there and Puffna was invited. So huh, I said, Puffy 240 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: knew about all this. He was told that he's just 241 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: set up, yo, Bro. He was told not to go 242 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: to the party. I told him not to go to 243 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: the party before we left Steve Stop, I mean Andrerell's house. 244 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: I told him, still hum and he still went. He 245 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: still went. This is what people don't understand. And then 246 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: you gotta look at me. I'm the number every guy 247 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: who was coming from Cali when they came in New York, 248 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: Matt ten exhibits, uh Nate dog who is bodyguarding them. Me. 249 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: You understand, I'm not dude. So now I look bad 250 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: because not big gas kilt on my watch. Yeah, that's 251 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff for me. You understand what I'm saying, 252 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: because this dude ain't listen to what I told him. 253 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: Y'o listen to me. I believe punk Girl was putting 254 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: that stuff to the I believe kids because kill was 255 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: right there. I said, we can't go to that party, man, 256 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: so people gonna come and kill us. Man. People have 257 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: told me that a dude that was in the federal 258 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: jail out there, he's out now, he's up now he 259 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: caught gave me a phone call. He said, big James. 260 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, what's up? Man? He said, Yo, best stuff? 261 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: I said, all day everything. He said, they can come 262 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: to get y'all. Man. I get a call from my 263 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: man Chas Whim. He said, Yo, it's gonna be some 264 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: street niggers coming at y'all to night. He went to 265 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: that sting Stock party on the hill. He left up 266 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: because I told him he was at the museum, man, 267 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: and it looks shady. So he was coming to the 268 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: museum's crew and and two of them is still alive. 269 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: Was on the corner when dad got stopped. Wow, they 270 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: saw it go down. They you know, they still us 271 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: chase the guy. They followed us to the hospital. The 272 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: puss got ready to lead a hospital. He had his 273 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: crew and he tends to follow us and plus them 274 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: stop the car on the highway and go tell Chad, yo, 275 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: we don't heed go all that damn. So, So how 276 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: did guys how they feel about Puppy now, and I 277 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: mean Puppy still living in doing this thing, and they 278 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: they don't, they don't, they don't know. God bless the 279 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: dad Chas is gone and they don't turning about Paul 280 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: And I was one of his people. He wasn't gonna 281 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: see nothing happen to me, right, I was gonna see 282 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: nothing happen, and nobody from if he couldn't because he 283 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: was that New York type of dude. He was the 284 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: one with Big DEEDM and Eric Beta who set up 285 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: that meeting with Shill to get that East Coast West 286 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: Coast thing squads and Puff wun't even still a representative. 287 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: So you think you wanted that, You think you think 288 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: it was more beneficial to to send Biggie out there 289 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: like that, because I mean, that's a mission that you 290 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: shouldn't have went on for number one, after Tupac was killed, 291 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna go to the Lions. Then right 292 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: after that, you knew it was gonna be repercussion after 293 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: Park was killed, you know what I'm saying. He said, 294 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know any and everybody knew that that was 295 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a problem. Why here Why is this executive 296 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: telling get no e t you know and everything it 297 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: was no East coast, west coast wall that he didn't 298 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: know about nothing when it fot dude that he paid 299 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: good me tell him and then wolf his head and 300 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: his security. He's had his bad boy tell him I'm 301 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: not going and let you and he told and what 302 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: told his mother, MI ain't going out there, don't want 303 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: to go right, Like I was saying, man, you know everybody, 304 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: everybody feeling a vault on some of the ship. But 305 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: the fault ain't the blame ain't going to the right people. Right. 306 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: They have the avenue and they get to look at 307 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: this James, My story and your story and what you 308 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: did for death Row and what I did with bad 309 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: Boy is worth millions and millions of dollars. You underderstand 310 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: these cats get other cats get get get avenues and 311 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: get millions of dollars to tell our story. And they 312 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: weren't even there and they don't know our story. They don't. 313 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: They don't. Hollywood, the movie business, don't give us that 314 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: avenue like they give it to those other cats. You 315 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. Let me say this, I'm not 316 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: gonna I can't even blame them because they take advantage 317 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: of the situation us. They don't take advantage, James. They 318 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: are given the situation, they were given it. But that's 319 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: that's us, that's us doing these interviews. It's not us 320 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: who is it. That's not us? Give it that that 321 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: that we that we might do it giving them the 322 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: interviews and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying, 323 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: and trying to get compensated for the interviews. But that's 324 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: not us. They don't. They don't. They don't give us 325 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: the money. They don't give us the platform and the 326 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: avenue to do that like they do them. So if 327 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: we don't talk and say nothing, if we take ourselves 328 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: by the equation, bro, then they have nothing, they have nothing, 329 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: then they're gonna be If we do that, then they're 330 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: ready and willing to pay us what we want to 331 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: be paid to do it. So just that's their make up, 332 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: their make up, their makeup, ship, Jane. They'll make ship 333 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: and put it on a grand scale. Now everybody thinks 334 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: the truth because we don't have a voice to speak 335 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: on it. We don't have what they do. They don't 336 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: give us the voice to speak on it. They make 337 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: up ship and they make it be what they wanted 338 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: to be. Well, just like we create these platforms, we 339 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: can create a platform where brothers can push it together. 340 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: Us can push it together and then do a documentary 341 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: such as VT or anybody else, you know what I'm saying. 342 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: So we can do it ourselves, just like anster chronicles, 343 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: just like what Norman is doing, just like what you 344 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: was doing. We can put that ship out there ourselves 345 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: and and and make the money. If Pufflican started business, 346 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: if Shield and I can started business, I think I 347 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: mean they opened the doors for us to do pretty 348 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: much whatever we want to do it. Yo. Anybody brother 349 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: that was trying to do some kind of distribution out there, 350 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: you know what, they know where they are right now, 351 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: where in jail, in jail, bro. They don't want us 352 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: to have distribution to put our own stuff out there. 353 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: The people that can do it, and they're not gonna 354 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: do it. You got the Tyler Perry's gotta got a 355 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: multimillion dollars there a studio. He will not for the 356 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: avenue for things for street black uh black documentaries, things 357 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: that happened in the streets that's coming up. He he 358 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: won't do that now those those those those those white 359 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: boys overseas might do it because they have no allegiance 360 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: to America like that. Huh, So we we do have leeways, 361 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: we do have options. Would you might have some options. 362 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: We might have some options. But listen. The thing about 363 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: it is is that brother, um, they had made this 364 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: man so poisonous that they don't give us the avenue 365 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: to see what we want to speak to state what 366 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: we want to say when we go. Listen to me, 367 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: I did MTV and sit down there for five hours. 368 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: You got twenty seconds or thirty seconds or something. We 369 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: don't have about that v H one the same thing. 370 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: So now people saying that I never told this story. 371 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: Now I've been telling this story and since since, you understand, 372 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: but saying the same ship. But what happened that they 373 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: used a portion that they need that they want you understand. Well, 374 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: that's that's where the controversy come in. Like like saying 375 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: that you said you gave three different stories, you picked 376 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: out different people. That's the controversy. That's the what they need. 377 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: But let's listen to me, brother, I see what what 378 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: Grant Katie wasn't telling y'all. I had a lawyer with 379 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: me right. You had a lawyer with me. This lawyer 380 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: was the governor's personal one of the governor's personal lawyers 381 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: because she was married to his brother. That's how powerful 382 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: she was. She was doing me a solid because of 383 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: my girl at the time. Yea, she went with me 384 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: and she took notes. She could tell you. I said, 385 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: these guys look something like him, but that's not him. 386 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: And then when they showed me the picture of the 387 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: guy in the blue suit, white shirt, blue boats, I said, 388 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: this is the guy right here. They promised that they 389 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: were coming back in about two weeks with a better photo, 390 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: or they was gonna send for me to come out 391 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: there and do a lineup. They never did, never heard 392 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: from him since you're me, never heard from him from 393 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: that point on. That's a facade, and that's a lot 394 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: if they were taking me as they weren't. While you 395 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: didn't hear the video tape. Anytime you pick out somebody 396 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: in the lot lineup and you are law enforcement, you 397 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: know what they make you do. What's that initially? So 398 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: what you're saying that, if that wouldn't be a natural fact, 399 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: they should have showed that that piece of paper, that 400 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: document showing that you are an issue, the wrong person? 401 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: Are you? You're saying who that was? And you put 402 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: your an issue, that's what you're saying. They didn't do that, Okay, 403 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: anybody you put out somebody law enforcement and if you've 404 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: been locked up, you've been stuff like that. They said, 405 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: you know this is a person right here, and you 406 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: put your insues right there right because they have to 407 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: prove that you pick that person out. You know, it's 408 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: just a lot of ship and I think you know 409 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: what it is, brother, this is what it is. You 410 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: can't tell me what happened to me that day from 411 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: somebody that you got stuff from ten years ago that 412 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: wasn't doing the right thing in the first place, right right, 413 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: right right, those officers doing what they were supposed to 414 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: do in the first place. Then next stuff would have 415 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: been at tight. You're gonna come eight years later and 416 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm speaking about great Kati and say and listen to me, 417 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: whether I'm wrong or right or in different you know 418 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: why Lucy's wasn't in that murder rap? What you know 419 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: why I wasn't in that murder rap? No, it was 420 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: totally a gift of what they was trying to say. 421 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: If you was getting down to the if you if 422 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: you you're gonna get all the weeks, roll right or 423 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: in different? Right, roll right in different? You know what 424 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean? You're important guy. After I think a lot 425 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: of people. You know, the police can only go by 426 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: what what what people were saying. Police can only rather 427 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: report from what you say. And I think getting all 428 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: of this different information, YadA, YadA, you know they put 429 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: it together the way they see it. Um no, wait 430 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: a minute, Wait a minute. I'm not giving I'm not 431 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not taking up. No, I'm not disagreeing 432 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: with you. I'm shaking my head. Whereas that sometimes you 433 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: have people that articulate things in a way that helped 434 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: their case and help them. Because how can I say 435 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: that with somebody's ship starts shooting, you dumped your head 436 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 1: and you and you did, I can't say that. So 437 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: let's look at you. Huh. Let's look at it. Let's 438 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: let's look at it from from on the west coast side. 439 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: Let's look at it from let's let's take your point 440 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: of view. I've seen this boat tipe. Okay, you've seen 441 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: this guy. But people on the West coast know that 442 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't that guy. Would you be quick to say 443 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: they lying, or would you be quick to say, okay, 444 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: that's a possibility if all if all the people on 445 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: the West Coast saying that this was a different individual, 446 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: this person they know for a fact that it would 447 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: you be would you like kind of like shay, okay, 448 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, or why is all of them saying that? James, 449 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying to you is that if the shooter, 450 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: if the eyewitness of the shooter say, a guy in 451 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: a blue suit, white shirt, blue bow tie, shot my brother, 452 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: shot my man, shot my mentor shot the guy who 453 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: taught me how to wrap you understand, And I see 454 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: this guy walk down the street in that direction, and 455 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: five minutes later that person is shot. I'm not going 456 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: about what nobody else saying, but that person who said 457 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: this is the individual who shot him, because he is 458 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: the eyewitness, no matter who or what somebody's saying or 459 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: what nobody articulately later, you know, if you get a guy, 460 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: if you get that person in that blue shoot in 461 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: that white shirt and that blue boat top in court 462 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: and you gotta you gotta jury of twelve and Lucy's 463 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: get on that stat stand and say that's the guy 464 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: right there in the blue suit, white shirt, blue boat 465 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: time that shot my friend that night. Who the jewelry 466 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: gonna believe. They're gonna believe the person that saved, that 467 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: honestly saved and can point you out and say that's him. 468 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna believe. They're gonna believe that. I'll witness. Yeah, 469 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna they inclined to believe witness. Now if I 470 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: put him in going in that direction, they're gonna believe 471 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: he was on that street because they got the picture 472 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: and he me him and Puff. You know, Puff is 473 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: in this car. I'm outside the car in the driveway, 474 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: and I stopped him. The FBI at the FBI asked 475 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: me and the l A p D. Did you have 476 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: your gun on me? Yes, I pulled my gun. He 477 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: looked at my gun. I put me, put my arm down, 478 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: looked him in this. He looked at me and with 479 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: the other direction. You understand, he said, Joe, this MF 480 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: is ready. He that's the he got his gun out. 481 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: If I pulled my weapon. I gotta make sure because 482 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: if he pulled his weapon, already got my mind's out. 483 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm double tapping coming up. I'm studying double tapping coming 484 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: up like I'm trained it. Two. You understand I'm not 485 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: pulling no punchers with because I want to go home 486 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: the minds. So now if he he goes and sees me, 487 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: don't say nothing, walk in the direction. And five minutes 488 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: later somebody out witnessed him as shooting. I don't care 489 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: if Jesus Christ is in the courtroom and defended him, 490 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: the jury gonna say, well, it was an outwitness that 491 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 1: placed him there. It was eye witness that put him 492 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: in the car. It was an eye witness that said 493 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: he shot. So they see him in a car, they 494 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: see him nothing to know that it was somebody dressed 495 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: like them, somebody from the Nation of Islam. But now 496 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: the the l aple wanna make up something totally different, 497 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: and then they want to do it because you gotta 498 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: realize that that was some professional ship. Brother, the way 499 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: they set that up, that was some professional ship. That 500 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: wasn't no street ship. They knew where to get away 501 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: because say I found out this. I found that the 502 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: death Road was two blocks away from that that place, 503 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: about two or three blocks away from that place. Right now, 504 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: when we chase after the guy guy, all of a 505 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: sudden we get to tweet when we turned that corner, 506 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: we don't see ship. We don't see him the lights 507 00:31:54,400 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: of nobody. Somebody told me that death roll office about 508 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: two blocks away from that. I'm not saying they went 509 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: up in there. I'm not saying they did that and 510 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: they used that, but it was somebody who knew they 511 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: already set up for shooting on the other side of 512 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: the facility, had the police, had the fire people, had 513 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: the emergency all on the other side of the facility, 514 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: and when we came out the backside, so all that 515 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: stuff y'all see people on the streets and all that 516 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: doctorate stuff that wasn't on the side the big got 517 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: killed on. They tried to doctor that and try to 518 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: put that out there like it was, but it wasn't. 519 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: I knew who was on that side of the street. 520 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: So Bro, they can say whatever they want to say. 521 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm going by what was said that night. I'm going 522 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: by what I saw that night, and I'm going by 523 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: what I believe that happened. Well, I'm I'm understake this 524 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: things happened and it don't have to Well it might 525 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: have looked like a professional thing to you, but you know, 526 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: Ship is just is well planned. Uh, people are organized, 527 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: so you know, for for for that guy to bring 528 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: him out of here, and and knowing the situation and 529 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: what was going on, he knew it was a rich 530 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: bottom line. He knew you know what it was. It 531 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: wasn't just a risk to me and I and I 532 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: believe this man. Listen to me, Big was leaving. Bad 533 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: boy being had his own label. He's making his own label. 534 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: He had enough groups on that label that was gonna 535 00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: be hot camraon Prolie Baltimore, Little Kim Little sees you understand, 536 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: the commission and himself. Something just blanked out on here 537 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things. Man, do you think, man, 538 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: that this could have been some organized man by somebody 539 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: else man, just to further perpetuate the few that y'all 540 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: was aving. Yeah, let me just take your something, man um. 541 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: When we came back. When we came back outter chasing 542 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: the guy, the first thing I did, I ran down 543 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: to the parking lot. You understand, because people talk, so, 544 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: you know, talking, And when I heard DJ Quick say, Yo, 545 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: I think they got one of them back he on 546 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: the cell phone. I think they got one of them 547 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: bad boy niggas. They said they was gonna get him. 548 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: So now whoever he was around, whoever he was around, 549 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: wherever we heard that, I mean, somebody was setting up 550 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: to do something. So in the grand scheme of things, 551 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: it was planning, all right, and and and it it 552 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: should have been planned. And this is me saying, because 553 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,959 Speaker 1: here you really a ward and then now Tupac is dead, 554 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: and then then it gotta be some type of repercussion 555 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: because it is own. It should have been repercussions way 556 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: before this. I know, we got we got, we got 557 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: the mom in the South Side fighting each other over 558 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: bad Boy and death Row. So let's say it's planned. 559 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: Let's say this. We're blaming everything and everybody else. Two 560 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: people and Cahusa, all this other ship. Why we don't 561 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: blame ourself for for putting ourselves in positions to to 562 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: do ship like this to each other. Here we are 563 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: killing for and doing this for for other people, you 564 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, when it didn't even have to 565 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: go there. So let's blame ourselves for organized our own situations. 566 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: This is this is our fault. All this ship is 567 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: our fault. And there's a lot of people there because yeah, 568 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: we were young, dumb and full of come back. Then 569 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: we were young, dumb and full of comeback. That's what 570 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what I'm trying to check. So let's 571 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: not blame all the people it was. It was. It 572 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: was our fault. We made a lot of mistakes back 573 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: in the days. Uh, we was with the beef. We 574 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: was with the beef like montherfucker because it was something 575 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: to do at the time. And and and people were 576 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: eaten off of this beef. Motherfucker's was getting paid for 577 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: the war. You know what I'm saying, Let's stay being compensation, 578 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: not getting what they wanted, but was getting paid for 579 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: this ship. So it ain't it ain't that white dude 580 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: over there or that white dude around the corner. We 581 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: was at war. We this ship could have stopped a 582 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: long time ago. Think I'm gonna I'm gonna give you 583 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: five grand cut it that cut it off. I'm gonna 584 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: give you fifty thousand, y'all stop this ship. We we 585 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: we can't. They were trying to do that. They was 586 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 1: trying to do that brother brother before before popat up, 587 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: hit him out, hit him up. They was trying to 588 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: do that. Even though the circumstances because listen, let me 589 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: just tell you something. If Wolf was responsible for Jake 590 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: getting killed like people try to portray that in that image, 591 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: because he wasn't, because Wolf was right next to Should 592 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: when Jake got killed. You understand. So now if what 593 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: should one have never said I could squash you? Should 594 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: would have never said I could squash the beat when 595 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: when Eric b and them decided you we got we 596 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 1: can't make let's watch the death row thing. Should would 597 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: have said that somebody should have cap would have said, nah, man, 598 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: the bad boy niggas killed my man. You understand, we 599 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: can't squash it to one of them guys stopped. That 600 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: wasn't the conversation back then, Puff All, Puff, All Puff 601 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: I had to do was send a representative, whether it 602 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: could have been Zip or anybody from this camp, a 603 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: Wolf of anybody to that meeting. They all went to 604 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: the mirage. They was all partying together. You understand, that's 605 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: all you have to do. We'll send somebody or say somebody, 606 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking for bad boy and everything like, this is 607 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We're gonna squash. His head puffed 608 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: aside and he said, that's them niggas. I ain't fucking 609 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: with him, y'all making me look bad by even fucking 610 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:49,479 Speaker 1: with him, Nicks, that's what he said, zip y'all making 611 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: me look bad. Do you understand that he didn't want 612 00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: to boss enough. That's the truth behind it. Brother. He 613 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: could have said, Yo, okay, we was in. We was 614 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: in We was in l A and y'all and they 615 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: was in New York. They was in New York. He 616 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: could have said, yo, listen to him. Man, all right, 617 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: Wolf coming over there? All right, Wolf there is is 618 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: coming over y'all. Y'all figured out or everything like that, 619 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: And I'm whatever they say, I'm good with. If Shook 620 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: was the street nigga or real street guy, and he 621 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: knew Wolf had killed him, and wolfs that me and 622 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,959 Speaker 1: Shik was cool, man, I should have never stopped talking 623 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: to him. Wolf said that out of his own mouth. 624 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 1: I stopped working with him because of fuck. So, now, 625 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: if Wolf was the real shooter and what killed Jake, 626 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: Shugar said, no, nigga, if he was real, I want 627 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: that nigga head. He killed my man. Oh, he killed 628 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: our people. I want his head. That wasn't the conversation. 629 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: And she never told nobody that Wolf killed Jack that's 630 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: not true because he was right next now, now, down, down, 631 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: hold on, let me let me defend ship on that one. Uh. 632 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: When he came back, it was said, who did it? 633 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna ain't gonna go into the logistics of 634 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: of of how it was put down how I was saying. 635 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: But it did come back that that guy was the guy. 636 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, bud, you can't tell me what she 637 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 1: came and said at home. I don't know what he said. 638 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Let me, let me, let me, 639 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: let let me. Let me tell you some funny ship. 640 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: Let me tell you some funny ship. We was all 641 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: at Envies. We was all at Envies. Should walk through 642 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,479 Speaker 1: the door. My kid's mother was right in the middle 643 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: of the door. I'm in the corner peeping game in 644 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: the back. M shove walks in Envies with the cigar 645 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: in his mouth and everything like that. My my my 646 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: kids mother stopped and she said, oh, shouldn't I okay? 647 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, baby, how are you doing? And grabbed 648 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: him and hugged him. Right. Wolfman was in the club 649 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: that night too. They was at the bart together, brother. 650 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: So I can't see that man having a drink with 651 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: that dude after he killed this man. Let me tell 652 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: you something. I had much love for meat and carried 653 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: them from being math. Much love for him. Every time 654 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: I see him that come to party. Everything I said 655 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: called Blanche. You understand I'm saying Southwest here. Tell you 656 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: called Blanche when him and Wolf had that problem in 657 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: Atlanta and Wolf didn't make it. We was in Kent. Cool. 658 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: He came up to me, Yo, I got number. Yeah, 659 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: we got holes down there. Anything you want to drink, 660 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: anything we want to eat, Big man, come to the room. 661 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: Chad had the junior presidential sweet Task is right there 662 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: with me. I told against the with gainst the dudes 663 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: around them, I said, my man, let me just say this. 664 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened between you and Wolf, but 665 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: we always family, and he not here today based on 666 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: whatever happened between y'all two. No disrespect, bro, I can't 667 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 1: drink with you. He said, I respect, and he went 668 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: and I went my way. I had not, but we 669 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: was all family. You unders I can't see Shoots standing 670 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: at the ball with this nigger with the few dudes 671 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: he had with him, and said he knew he killed 672 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: Jake and he didn't do not a signal. That's like 673 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: a while right now. I didn't she we didn't know 674 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: what he did when he came to New York. And 675 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: and that's why I can't I can't speak on that. 676 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 1: I can't elaborate on what he did when he came 677 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: to New York. I know what men home? How did 678 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: everybody get that guy named a no of Woldau? Because 679 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: you know what, let me just tell you something, because 680 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: of this is what it is. They put it on 681 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: Bad Boys, right, But the only one who was doing 682 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: the only one that could have done something like that 683 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: or would have done something like that for Bad Boy 684 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: was probably Wolf Risk or whoever they put down to 685 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: do it. Do you understand so that whether okay, let's 686 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: say that, it's whether it was Wolf or whoever it 687 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: was somebody from Bad Boy camp. Japon know when he 688 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: asked Cat that was a real motherfucker. I got mad 689 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: at shoot because with lost, I mean, Jake lost his life, 690 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I don't think she 691 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: could have made that call and said I'm doing the 692 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: interview serving with that. I'm not that that should couldn't 693 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: come back and say, oh, that beefing we were squashing 694 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: that after Jake. It's it's full blown now because I 695 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: just yeah, how could not not not look what you're 696 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: just saying now, come on, put it into content. How 697 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: could should make that decision on the death row East 698 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: Coast beat? If Wolf had to kill Jake and they 699 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: was willing Eric beat noticed to be true, Big DNA 700 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: notice to be true. You understand, how can he can 701 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: make that call? If Whoof was really the one who 702 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: did to kill? He can only he can only speak 703 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: on who did it? Which how how could you make 704 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: that call? It sussed to be he can't, That's what 705 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You can't make that call. My point example, 706 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: because he knowing himself, Whoof was right next to him 707 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: when Jack got killed? And you know that's it's a 708 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 1: whole lot. And let me tell you. Let me just 709 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: tell you. And Wolf told me that is something man, 710 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: He said, men, I kill that dude? Who said men, 711 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't kill that dude. Whether he did it or not, 712 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: it was somebody from Bad Boy, we know that. So 713 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,439 Speaker 1: everybody is is guilty by association, you know what I'm saying, 714 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: Like like all the ship that we do, somebody I 715 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: funk with you. Something happened you're going to jail because 716 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm it's guilty because I was there accessory 717 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: after the fact that whatever the case might be, your 718 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: law enforcement to tell me if I'm wrong. No, you're right. 719 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: It's called rick It's called Rico law. Yeah, you know, 720 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: Accessory had to the fact get you damn near the 721 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: same thing. Oh most well, you there, it's a slam 722 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 1: on the wrist. But you're gonna go to jail for it, 723 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: just like just like somebody saying somebody killing somebody, the 724 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: person sent them to kill him gets more time to 725 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: the person who paid to kill him. That's right, So 726 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,760 Speaker 1: on on on. On another note, yeah, you and Reggie, 727 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: You and Reggie. You know, I think you and Reggie 728 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: should have had that personal phone called y'all y'all should 729 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: well when he come home, have that personal uh conversation 730 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 1: to to fix some of the things that it was. 731 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: It was your brother I spoke to. It was a 732 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: misunderstanding brother. I was talking about Greg Katy. I was 733 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 1: talking about Reggie giving Grant Kati on that information. And 734 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: I had that conversation I had to Reggie. I had 735 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 1: that conversation with Reggie. You understand, you know what I'm 736 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: talking about is what I'm talking about is And I 737 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: heard you said on the on the on the interview 738 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: Reggie and his dad speaking on Reggie and Reggie right 739 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: singing right, y'r litten, listen to me. Check it out, brother, 740 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: check it out. If you look over the indictment in 741 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 1: the paperwork, they charged Reggie right singing, just like they 742 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: charged Reggie right right. You understand. So now somebody had 743 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: to come forward, and the Fast want somebody to come 744 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 1: forward and take that. You understand now, if Regny said 745 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 1: my father didn't have nothing to do with it, that 746 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: I met bank account may have been in his name, 747 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: but I was using that because I had access to it, 748 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: the launching money through it. If I was, if I 749 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 1: was using this stuff to do this and do that, 750 00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 1: then the Fast look at that and say, okay, give 751 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: us something. All investigations. Let me just tell you something. 752 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: Whether you if you want, you charge to something. Man, 753 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: the fans want something, and they want more than what 754 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: they already know. If I already know that, you can't 755 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: give me that, give me something that I don't know. 756 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: That's new enforcement works. Here we go again. Here we 757 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: go again, James. The speculation as a motherfucker. And and 758 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 1: Reggie did get his dad on. I just tell you 759 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 1: how we work. I know. Well, listen to me, Reggie. Right, 760 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 1: Reggie did tell them that his dad had nothing to 761 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: do with it, got him up the hook, which you 762 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 1: should have. Pops ain't getting down like that. So let 763 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: me ask you something. Let me ask you something. You're 764 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 1: being the law enforcement, that you being investigator? Why do 765 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: you believe him? Why do I believe Regie? Right? I 766 00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: believe Reggie because you you got you missed on the point. Right, 767 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm an investigator. Right, I got you and your you 768 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: and your your your your brother. I got you and 769 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,800 Speaker 1: your brother. You said my brother ain't had nothing to 770 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: do with that, Well, I got both of you. Are 771 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 1: you using this account? How not know that's a hundred 772 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: some thousand dollars extra and his account? How do you 773 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: not noticed that in the third like that? I don't 774 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,760 Speaker 1: believe it. Why should I believe you as an investigator 775 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 1: because you tell me that your brother had nothing to 776 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,800 Speaker 1: do with it? You might just be mad enough to 777 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 1: take all the time and do something, or your brother 778 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: might say, you're my brother, James don't have nothing to 779 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,320 Speaker 1: do with this. Do you understand. So now as an investigator, 780 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: what I gotta do is I wanna I want to 781 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: make my case either bigger or better or clad type. 782 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, Okay, brother, say your father don't 783 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: have your brother don't have nothing to do with it. 784 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: What can't you get me to prove that your brother 785 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: will have nothing to do with it or give me something? 786 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: That's if any investigator who does investigations, that's just wait 787 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 1: a minute, investing the investigator has nothing Beny to do 788 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: with it. He's out there to investigate. Now, I've been 789 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 1: to jail multiple times, and I know if if, if, 790 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 1: if I'm saying my brother ain't got nothing to do 791 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,359 Speaker 1: with it, that week is your case. Because I'm gonna 792 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,439 Speaker 1: can't understand if I have to to say my brother 793 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,839 Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to do with it nine times out 794 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: of tend the law. Don't want to go there and 795 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,720 Speaker 1: say he knew, because you gotta prove to the jury 796 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,359 Speaker 1: that he had well, he knew exactly what was going 797 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: on when that money was placed. So brother, brother, wait 798 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 1: a minute, let mean Benish Jane. The prosecutor don't want 799 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: to take that chance because trying to make him look 800 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: wait a minute, trying to make Dad, but like he knew, 801 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 1: and you can't prove Dad actually knew. Reggie had access 802 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: to the account, which I'm Reggie said this before. That's 803 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,760 Speaker 1: why I'm speaking on it. So that's how his pops 804 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: got off. You don't have to give no more or 805 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: no less because he because he did that. And if 806 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 1: he did more than that, why is he in jail? 807 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Why is he in jail. 808 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: You don't have You don't have nobody that was on 809 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 1: this case speaking speaking bad on Reggie. Reggie still communicate 810 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: with these cats. So Reggie, I think, honestly he doing time. 811 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 1: I think because he was a police officer, he got 812 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: less time. And I've said it on Gang Wait a minute, 813 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: I've said it on Games the Chronicles multiple times. I 814 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 1: think if you're in law enforcements and you break the 815 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 1: law like I break it, I think you should be 816 00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 1: uh sentence like like you were saying, just me, no no, no, 817 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: no no. They should sence this. They should sensorce him, 818 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 1: not him per se. Anybody in law enforced to get 819 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: caught during the crime, we should sensence more time than 820 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: they would than you because they're supposed to know better. 821 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 1: You understand I'm saying, Yo, this dude said I pushed 822 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: him in the face. I pushed in there and put 823 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: my gun to his head. They was trying to give 824 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: me ten and a half years, tending to a half years. 825 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 1: I told I know, I didn't do it. I went 826 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: to try. I won it. You understand. June six, two 827 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: thousand eleven, I won the case. You understand what I'm saying. 828 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: What I'm saying to you is is that they was 829 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: trying to give me ten and a half years on 830 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,240 Speaker 1: an MF that was lying. It cost me over ninety 831 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: two tho dollars altogether and court fees and everything, court fees, 832 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: lawyers and all that stuff. What I'm trying to tell you, brother, 833 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 1: is this is that based on just because you say 834 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: somebody had nothing to do with it, they don't believe you. 835 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 1: They're looking at the fact or a sun amount of 836 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: time that this amount of money was in your account. 837 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me that you don't look at this account, 838 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 1: You don't know where this money coming from. You ain't 839 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 1: ask no questions about those money. Those are things that 840 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 1: people who do legitimate investigations ask questions and do that. 841 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't care about what they do. I'm glad he 842 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 1: only got a little time. I don't want to see 843 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: nobody locked up in jail. But when they talk about 844 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 1: investigations and federal investigations, I've been through it and I've 845 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 1: done them. You understand. I've been through federal I got 846 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: I got news articles, I got papers in everything where 847 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: I've been investigated, I've been through. Cause they want one 848 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 1: bad cop. They would rather have one bad cop than 849 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 1: take crooks in the streets, you understand. And because of association, 850 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 1: he was trying to get me for a long time, 851 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,439 Speaker 1: you understand. So what I'm trying to tell you, as brother, 852 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: I understand that, and what I'm trying to say to 853 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 1: you is is that I have nothing against Reggie. I 854 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: don't have nothing. I don't care about that situation. You 855 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If we talk as men, we 856 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:23,359 Speaker 1: talk as men, we ain't never gotta be friends. You understand. Well, 857 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying about y'all. When y'all worked out 858 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: y'all differences, you would think that that that situation would 859 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,320 Speaker 1: have been over. But when Reggie went to jail, you 860 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,840 Speaker 1: had did that? Nah? No, Bro, what what, what you 861 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 1: didn't what you didn't see, what you didn't see, and 862 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 1: what you don't understand. Reggie was allowing people and he 863 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 1: was going at me still about certain things. And then 864 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 1: he had laughed and play it off like he didn't 865 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: know better, like he didn't know different. And I had 866 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: already discussed that and had conversations with him about certain situations. 867 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 1: I had always had conversations with him about, um, what 868 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 1: you called pulling the gun on Sugar, Um see gun 869 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 1: you understand? And then he said that he I said, 870 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: he pulled the gun on see Gunnar and say, don't 871 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,280 Speaker 1: really roll, don't raise it. He said it was Keithie 872 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,919 Speaker 1: d And I don't know what Gene Deal talking about. 873 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 1: I don't care what Jeane Deal is saying. I know 874 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: who I pulled the gunna. Then he gonna gets out 875 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,839 Speaker 1: of Federal penitentiary and gets on Doggie Diamond said, Yo, 876 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 1: I was don't pull the gun on Shugar. I was 877 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: do wanta dent this and dent that and stuff like that, 878 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 1: when I had already told Reggie it was said. Then 879 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 1: Reggie went back and then try to downplay what I 880 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: was saying to him and not that, and it was 881 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 1: other other companies. I'm not trying to say I went 882 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,919 Speaker 1: at him because of that, but I was actually trying 883 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 1: to express that Greg Kaden got his information from Reggie. 884 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: He had to to me. That's what I believe, that's 885 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:03,880 Speaker 1: my personal belief, because he was the producer on my murder. 886 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 1: Rap producers what they do. They gain information, They give 887 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 1: people stuff, They make stuff happen for the people who 888 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: are given a thing. And I just I told you, 889 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: and I expressed that to you. Are you still lying? Yeah, 890 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm listening to you. Yeah, I expressed that to you. 891 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: In Grant Katie book, he said that Reggie Wright told 892 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 1: him that shouldn't I bought Bungee unempowered, just like the 893 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 1: one that was seen on the scene with Big got 894 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 1: killed you in Pucci Pucci, Pucci. Sorry about that, Pucci. 895 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 1: So now, if Sugar is my man, like I said 896 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,320 Speaker 1: to you, there's no way I'm telling the police he 897 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 1: bought anybody, no car that looked like somebody who was wanted, 898 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 1: wanted for a murder. That's the last thing telling anybody. 899 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 1: And that's in the book. That's in the book. Brother. 900 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 1: I got that actually got the book, um, and I 901 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 1: was reading it I ain't got you that part yet. 902 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 1: Why would he why would he throw his man him 903 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 1: schilking you, oh, y'all grew up together. Why would he 904 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: throw his man under the buff like that? I don't know. 905 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 1: I ain't read it. I ain't ready, but I'm not 906 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna downplayed either. Uh. I'm gonna read the book. 907 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 1: And if that's in the book, I'm that's something I'm 908 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 1: gonna ask Reggie. You know what I'm saying. But I 909 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 1: don't think every everybody knows how Reggie is. Everybody knows 910 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 1: how Reggie. He likes the bullshit, He he with it 911 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: um anybody that he feels that attacks him, he's gonna 912 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: Atteck back with vengeance. He's gonna come with vengeance and 913 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: and and and he's gonna try to prove his point. 914 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 1: Everybody know that's Reggie. I've been doing Reggie from from 915 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: from way back, and like I told, respect him. I 916 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: respect your loarty to him, and I respect what you're 917 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: saying and everything like that. But you know, you know, guys, 918 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 1: I know from way in the back and the back 919 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: I got the same loargety to him and everything like that. 920 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: Did I did? I know? I'll die for did I 921 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: go to war with the whole nine yards? But what 922 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying to you is that it justin seemed feasible 923 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: for him to throw his man under the bus like that. 924 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 1: And and if Greg can't he lie on him by 925 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 1: saying that he just should sure have suited him for 926 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 1: putting that in the book and saying that, well, I 927 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 1: don't think I don't think Greg would lie. I don't 928 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 1: think he would put it out there knowing that that 929 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 1: him and Reggie is also cool. So if it's in 930 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 1: the book, then one would have to assume that Reggie 931 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 1: said it. Um you know, at the end of the day, 932 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 1: I truly believe that, you know, our our fight after 933 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 1: the beefs is. I don't think it's necessary. I think, man, 934 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: some abody need to come to a medium and say, okay, man, 935 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 1: this ship has been over twenty years. We don't need 936 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 1: to keep coming after each other. I'm not coming after 937 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: nobody from death Row. That's not my ploy, that's not 938 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 1: my plan, you understand, you know, Like, um, if if, if, 939 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 1: if I have to apologize for Reggie for putting that 940 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 1: out there, for saying that, I apologize. I don't have 941 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 1: no problem that I don't have to deal with him. 942 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: I don't have to speak with him. I don't have 943 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 1: to do nothing. I apologize as a man the way 944 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 1: I put it out there. My my object was to 945 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: get at how Greg Katie got his information and how 946 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 1: Greg Katy trying to make like he is super detective. 947 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 1: But then he left a whole lot of witnesses out 948 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 1: that didn't go to what he wanted to say. You understand, 949 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 1: those three girls that was walking on the side of 950 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 1: the car, you understand on the street, he didn't even 951 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,920 Speaker 1: question them. He he didn't. He didn't even and bring 952 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 1: them to the table or stuff like that. You know 953 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying for my whole thing about it is 954 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 1: is that it's a lot of things that he left 955 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 1: out that because it didn't pertain to what the thing 956 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 1: that he wanted to draw. And that's kin I don't 957 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,520 Speaker 1: care ask your question. Can ask you a questions. If 958 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: you've been in law law enforcement, if a witness don't 959 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 1: seem credible, would you use them first? Of I would 960 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 1: have to, I would have to interview I would have 961 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 1: to interview him first and totality to see where he's 962 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 1: not credible wet right, then would you still use him 963 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 1: if you knowing that this might hurt my case, would 964 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 1: you I was trying to think that it might hurt, 965 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 1: like like, why would it hurt your case? Let's say hurt. 966 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 1: Tak it hurt. Come on, man, it's just i'm and 967 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm speaking law enforcement terms, telling the harminology. If if 968 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 1: it happens every day, if this witness don't seem credible, 969 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna use them. If this witness is known 970 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 1: not to be truthful in a certain degree, I'm not 971 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 1: gonna use them. Am I right or wrong? I'm on 972 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 1: and ife, I'm gonna calling your accus over. Okay, all right, 973 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: So that's what you're use. You're using the word that 974 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 1: you're using the word in which you gotta say. Well, 975 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 1: I can't tell you what to say. But if the 976 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 1: witness is not if the witness is paying the atmosphere 977 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 1: that's not feasible to your case, you understand, or it's 978 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 1: going against what you say. Like if the witness say, oh, 979 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: he was there at eleven thirty and I've seen him 980 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 1: jump in the cab, but then somebody said, yo, he 981 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 1: was there at eleven forty five or twelve o'clock and 982 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,640 Speaker 1: he did that at twelve eleven. But the one witness said, yo, no, 983 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 1: he jumped in the cabinet eleven thirty five, eleven forty 984 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 1: or eleven thirty and other women say, now he was 985 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 1: leven to twelve o'clock. You're not yours down, jumped in 986 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: the cab. It all boards down to. But what what 987 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 1: what you do is is that you might not bring 988 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 1: the thing. But then what if the defense have that 989 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 1: witness there? What if did he not there for you? 990 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 1: But the defense had that witness that, and the defense 991 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 1: can say, yo, listen here, I took a picture of 992 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,920 Speaker 1: him getting in the cab at this time. You understand boom, 993 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,920 Speaker 1: because he was a stock. That's why I took a picture. 994 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 1: So my whole thing about it is it is based 995 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 1: on what suits your case. As you said, So if 996 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm telling you that it was a guy walked up 997 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 1: to me and puff and he had a boat Town 998 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 1: blue suit, white shirt, you understand the peanut looking head. 999 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 1: And then a witness saying I've seen him pull a 1000 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 1: gun out of the window and shoot my friend. And 1001 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 1: let's not pertaining to you what the case and what 1002 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 1: director you want. You're not gonna use those witnesses in 1003 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 1: your case. Okay, once again the way you want to go. 1004 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: Once again, it goes to a credibility because if if 1005 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,560 Speaker 1: if they looked at that and took what you said 1006 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 1: and what uh I keep saying his name, Mace, Lucy 1007 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 1: little cis what he said, somebody should have been arrested. 1008 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, once again, it 1009 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 1: boils down the credibility, right, they felt that they didn't 1010 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 1: want to say he said this, and then he said this. 1011 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 1: So I'm asking the question. I mean, I I don't know. 1012 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 1: I ain't in the law. So Louke what I'm just saying, 1013 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 1: it's just it just gave up. Lucie's gave Lucie's gave 1014 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 1: an eyewitness account on that particular week on what he saw. 1015 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 1: Now I gave an eyewitness account or what I saw, 1016 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 1: you understand, not ten years later, not some stuff that 1017 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 1: was formulated for people to say their own ass from prosecution. Now, 1018 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:19,000 Speaker 1: you take what was said that night that week, because 1019 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 1: that's the strongest part of your case, not something that 1020 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 1: was formulated ten years later. You take what was saying 1021 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 1: that night that week, you understand from people who was 1022 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 1: actually there, So why you think they never rested nobody 1023 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 1: because it probably would have. It probably would have went 1024 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 1: to the point whereas that L a p D may 1025 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 1: have been responsible or held responsible because they had rolled 1026 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:58,479 Speaker 1: cops working in situations that could have caused the depth 1027 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 1: of Biggie Small and they would have been sued for 1028 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 1: millions and millions of dollars. And it wouldn't have matter 1029 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 1: whether he knew he was coming into the lines then 1030 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 1: knewing that it was a game. Ward Tupac just got killed. 1031 01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 1: Everybody knows. Okay, Tupac gone that that can't just go by, 1032 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 1: that's not gonna fly. No, she's coming, and then coming 1033 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,720 Speaker 1: out of here, uh, and then that that going back 1034 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 1: to callegy ship was out and then now here go 1035 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 1: people like, man, I dare these dudes to come down 1036 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 1: in and exactly know what I'm saying, Say, did you 1037 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,920 Speaker 1: see me? On multiple occasions say there was more than 1038 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: one different people that wanted us? Then yeah, yeah, on 1039 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,280 Speaker 1: multiple occasions, on multiple case we had a beat for 1040 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 1: somebody from the Nation of Islam is soult trained and 1041 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't know today why I was that, but I 1042 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 1: know it was strong enough for Mo stop for the 1043 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 1: step in the dude chest you understand. Yeah, we had 1044 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 1: a beef. That's got because uh Snoop, guys, no, that 1045 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 1: got shot up right when the NGO got shot up 1046 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 1: here and random so was the due when they said 1047 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: Biggie get went into the radio station and told everybody 1048 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:19,400 Speaker 1: that it is. That's true. That's true. Brother, he said, 1049 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,240 Speaker 1: I don't see how y'all gonna let them do that 1050 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. Man, you know the stuff he said, he 1051 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 1: shouldn't have said it, right, that's true. No, so right 1052 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:33,720 Speaker 1: in the venture as if so, now you got snooped 1053 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 1: them people. That's what Snoop trying to say. Yo, we 1054 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 1: always people stuff like that. And then you hear the 1055 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 1: stuff gonna he was going and big, he was going 1056 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 1: in big on the radio. There's a lot of songs 1057 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 1: popping up now that he was going in big that 1058 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 1: they was releasing death fro so now. But he's saying 1059 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 1: like it was, that's you're gonna play that role. You're 1060 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 1: gonna play that role. But behind the scenes he was 1061 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,440 Speaker 1: going at him, you know, talking about him bad. You understand. 1062 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,200 Speaker 1: So now out you got that, then you got the 1063 01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 1: fact that they painted the picture that Wolf killed Jake, 1064 01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 1: and they painted the picture that Wolf or somebody from 1065 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 1: Bad Boy killed Jake in Atlanta. Those are three losses 1066 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,560 Speaker 1: people from the West Coast has taken. Do you understand 1067 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Oh yeah, and dudes from out there. 1068 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 1: My brother was out there at Stacktown. They don't play that. 1069 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 1: Just like anywhere else. They'll fight that. They'll kill for colors. 1070 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 1: You think they ain't gonna kill when their people come 1071 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 1: up there, or they ain't gonna try to hit somebody 1072 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 1: or do something. They have done it for less? Is 1073 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,880 Speaker 1: that facts of what? Oh yeah, that's that's what hunted, 1074 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,640 Speaker 1: all right. So now we know that I'm stupid for 1075 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 1: even going out there, because you gotta understand, this is 1076 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 1: what they told to get us out there. We're gonna 1077 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 1: do that. We're gonna be at the hotel, we're gonna 1078 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 1: do the studio, and we're gonna do radio. The studio 1079 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:07,960 Speaker 1: and radio, and that's it. Even that's still dangerous. That's 1080 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 1: still dangerous. Yeah, because everybody knew y'all was coming. Everybody 1081 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,959 Speaker 1: knew y'all was there to the alreadio and thing. I SI, okay, 1082 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,720 Speaker 1: we got our chances, And then I thought public was 1083 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,679 Speaker 1: gonna have hired those militian men. That he had before. 1084 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,640 Speaker 1: That's what I was told. He had six guys from 1085 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,880 Speaker 1: the sixth four or six guys that was mercenaries. And boy, 1086 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,880 Speaker 1: they was on their ship. They knew what they were doing, 1087 01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,640 Speaker 1: right you say, I've trained with some people that was 1088 01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, from the d A, from the UH, from 1089 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 1: transit from UH, from the state police. And these guys 1090 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 1: was they on their things. They was on their stuff. 1091 01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,560 Speaker 1: So now I thought we was gonna have him. I 1092 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 1: called Kirk bro your Kirk, weint got the mercenary. Man. 1093 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 1: Now puff ain't on hire? No more security? What y'all 1094 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:04,080 Speaker 1: gottas already? Next? We need more security? Brother? Do you 1095 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:09,479 Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying? But listen, James, we talked a 1096 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 1: lot about this stuff. Man. We're going back on this 1097 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 1: East coast, West coast runner, Yo. It's something that I 1098 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 1: want to say today, man, Yo. Put all that beside, 1099 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,240 Speaker 1: all this behind us. Man. These young brothers are today. Man, 1100 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 1: they still think it can't happen to them. They still 1101 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:29,600 Speaker 1: think that there's not uh Entita this out there to 1102 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 1: stop them. You understand, we see it today. Man. We 1103 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,120 Speaker 1: trapped in our houses. You know, we go next to people. 1104 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,760 Speaker 1: You understand, we go and try to form some some 1105 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,680 Speaker 1: some some kind of rally or whatever like that. We 1106 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,040 Speaker 1: all gonna we all could end up day. They didn't 1107 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,080 Speaker 1: put this poison in this air, and they put this 1108 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 1: poison out here and these streets and stuff like that 1109 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,080 Speaker 1: to stop us, you know what I'm saying, from stopping 1110 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:58,320 Speaker 1: them right right? You know, because you gotta realize those 1111 01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,160 Speaker 1: people in China, they was put tisching it. They was 1112 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,920 Speaker 1: going out there fighting the government, you understand, because they 1113 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 1: knew that that y G, they that five G, they 1114 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 1: knew all the stuff that was they was trying to do. 1115 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,519 Speaker 1: So what they do They put out this epidemic. They 1116 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 1: put out this thing to stop them from gathering. They 1117 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,879 Speaker 1: could kill you up from being next to somebody, you understand. 1118 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,800 Speaker 1: And and and the golf of that, you know, even 1119 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 1: that we ain't even looking at it like that. You know, 1120 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,880 Speaker 1: are people thinking there's a goddamn joke. I'm here to 1121 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,320 Speaker 1: tell everybody out there that it's not no joke. My 1122 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:41,400 Speaker 1: uncle just lost his daughter behind this this this virus 1123 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 1: um and and his granddaughter and grandson was uh subject 1124 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:53,880 Speaker 1: to the ship. So it's some real ship fuck hanging out. Man. 1125 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 1: You gotta take we gotta take care of ourselves and 1126 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,479 Speaker 1: and and the people around us. You know, we want 1127 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,400 Speaker 1: to hang out, but then we go home and we're 1128 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 1: giving it to our kids. And I don't know if 1129 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:09,120 Speaker 1: that was my little cousin case, but the kids got 1130 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 1: her daughter got an anagram, baby had it so thank 1131 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,560 Speaker 1: god through the grates of guy that day home, but 1132 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:19,680 Speaker 1: she lost their life. And uh, you know, it's a 1133 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,040 Speaker 1: cold thing because we just buried my auntie on the 1134 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:28,519 Speaker 1: February the fifth, and then she died a month after, 1135 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 1: just just a week and a half, two weeks ago. 1136 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,679 Speaker 1: And we're not taking ship serious. We're not paying attention 1137 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:42,120 Speaker 1: to what's really going on. What's been marm I mean, Jane, 1138 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 1: sorry about that, mom, Jane, mar James, Jane. Let me 1139 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:52,320 Speaker 1: just say something. Brother, listen to president get on television. 1140 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 1: We got four or five people around him, five six 1141 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,720 Speaker 1: people around him. I thought it was six ft or 1142 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 1: thirteen ft. Why they not worried? Why they don't see that? 1143 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,479 Speaker 1: Why why I can't touch them, Why can't be a 1144 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,920 Speaker 1: part of them, Why neither one of them happen? Did 1145 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 1: you ever look at that that the president in them 1146 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,759 Speaker 1: gets on television and they shake hands. No social distance 1147 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 1: and everything like that. What he said to his cabinet. 1148 01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 1: Some of the people in this cabinet did catch it. Yeah, 1149 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:28,000 Speaker 1: but they're not around him. They don't get on stage, right, right, 1150 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,080 Speaker 1: do you understand? And then they they're making known or 1151 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,840 Speaker 1: something like that because that dude go home to his family, 1152 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,439 Speaker 1: or that dude may be out and about what I'm saying, 1153 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,439 Speaker 1: when the point that I'm getting to you is that 1154 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:45,600 Speaker 1: is that they putting some out here to stop this. 1155 01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,040 Speaker 1: And then they spoke about this, and I was gonna 1156 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,720 Speaker 1: talk about this on my show, don't you know? In 1157 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:56,080 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties seven and the February issue of George magazine 1158 01:12:56,120 --> 01:13:02,320 Speaker 1: that's done by uh John F. Kennedy Jr. Right, he 1159 01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:07,639 Speaker 1: had an interview with Bill Gates, right, and Bill Gates 1160 01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:13,280 Speaker 1: talked about social distance. He talked about the internet taking 1161 01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 1: over or running the government, that the government wouldn't need 1162 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,360 Speaker 1: so many different people. He talked about people not gathering 1163 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:28,040 Speaker 1: in nineteen seven, and then he talked about in that 1164 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:33,479 Speaker 1: magazine about that there will be viruses that will cause 1165 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,920 Speaker 1: people not the social gathering. So you know, I look 1166 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,040 Speaker 1: at this like this man and I'm not a conspiracy 1167 01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:45,679 Speaker 1: theorist or nothing. Like that. But this dude has done 1168 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,960 Speaker 1: so much and and clear so many virus on the computers. 1169 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,840 Speaker 1: He brought a virus real, he brought a virus life 1170 01:13:55,880 --> 01:14:03,080 Speaker 1: right right right, and look what it's doing to us. Man, Yo. 1171 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 1: And he talked about in and this is what this 1172 01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,679 Speaker 1: magazine was wrote in nine seven. And if anybody don't 1173 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,559 Speaker 1: believe me, go look at that magazine. It's too it's too. 1174 01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,800 Speaker 1: Part of the article, right, it's too talking about it 1175 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,240 Speaker 1: on two different parts in the magazine. I think it's 1176 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,439 Speaker 1: not eight then one on one, then another part says 1177 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:27,920 Speaker 1: anything when he mentioned about two thousand and twenty, right, dog, 1178 01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,439 Speaker 1: people don't see they talk about these stimulists, checks and 1179 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:37,960 Speaker 1: everything like that. They're trying to this run the American 1180 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,559 Speaker 1: government and American people, you understand, to bring it into 1181 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:49,000 Speaker 1: like a dictatorship. Yeah, to bring it to a dictatorship. Brother, 1182 01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,240 Speaker 1: So what you say to the to the to the 1183 01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,599 Speaker 1: people in New York that that want to hang out, 1184 01:14:55,720 --> 01:15:00,040 Speaker 1: that's not paying attention my man, brother shooting dice and 1185 01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,280 Speaker 1: playing See. Look, I was going to the I was 1186 01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 1: going to the dentist. Brother, and I've seen brothers. It 1187 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,600 Speaker 1: was six brothers on I'm gonna call him out on 1188 01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:13,800 Speaker 1: a hundred and twelve and Lenox Avenue while people was 1189 01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,880 Speaker 1: in the people were in the line of Fine Fair, 1190 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,519 Speaker 1: waiting to go in the grocery store. They on the 1191 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:25,879 Speaker 1: corner shooting dice with no gloves on their end, no notice, 1192 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:30,640 Speaker 1: like it can't happen to them, right, I'm saying to 1193 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,000 Speaker 1: the old saying, my grandmother used to tell me, boy, 1194 01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:40,760 Speaker 1: you don't believe thatat meets greasy, I'm saying the same thing. 1195 01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,160 Speaker 1: Got here. I'm going to go on Facebook, man, and 1196 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,320 Speaker 1: and I see these these kids at a one year 1197 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:53,960 Speaker 1: old birthday party. It's like them and the police come 1198 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,800 Speaker 1: maybe Fort d And I see this little girl, she 1199 01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,680 Speaker 1: waving her hands and talking shipped to the police. I 1200 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,840 Speaker 1: look closer. It's my goddamn niece, my niece out of here. 1201 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:10,960 Speaker 1: Oh so she knew when I was calling. She didn't 1202 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:15,880 Speaker 1: don't answer that that call. And I'm like wow. And 1203 01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,040 Speaker 1: then right after that my cousin passed. Now she'd get 1204 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,599 Speaker 1: the picture that's not waiting to it and get close 1205 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,280 Speaker 1: to home like that to really believe in what the 1206 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,160 Speaker 1: fun is going on? This ship ain't no joke, So 1207 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,760 Speaker 1: you know on that note, man, you know, I really 1208 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,840 Speaker 1: appreciate you're taking the time out with us, man. And 1209 01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,160 Speaker 1: if you ever want to talk to me on your 1210 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:41,360 Speaker 1: show or you know, we could compensate traveling up like today. Man, 1211 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm willing for that. UM. I believe we're all good. UM. 1212 01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're getting better from your your situation. You 1213 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 1: gotta just gotta keep exercising and doing your things. Uh, 1214 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,560 Speaker 1: to go back to something, yeah, not not not to 1215 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,040 Speaker 1: cut you all off. I want to go back to 1216 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,320 Speaker 1: something real quick early than James said. And I'm glad 1217 01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,600 Speaker 1: you said that, man, because this has been kind of 1218 01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:14,160 Speaker 1: my thoughts. They've been trust slowly trying to introduce socialism 1219 01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:19,200 Speaker 1: to this country. If you see the pattern, this is 1220 01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 1: an experiment almost like Okay, they send him brothers the 1221 01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,800 Speaker 1: twelve hundred dollar checks or whatever, right the right, the 1222 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 1: way they got the unemployment set up. Cats getting the 1223 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,680 Speaker 1: extra six hundred dollars a week on top of the thing, 1224 01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,760 Speaker 1: just to stay at the cred. Right, you're trying. They're 1225 01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 1: trying to break them, but they're trying to break the government. 1226 01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,599 Speaker 1: One see, let me just say something. It's only three 1227 01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,880 Speaker 1: governments in this whole country that don't owe the World Bank, 1228 01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:52,439 Speaker 1: and that the Cuba, Zimbabwe and uh, what's just North Korea? 1229 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:58,960 Speaker 1: North Korea? All right, they don't owe the World bank ship. 1230 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,400 Speaker 1: Do you understand me? They don't owe the World Bank. 1231 01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:09,280 Speaker 1: Only three countries that don't owe the World Bank ship, Zimbabwe, 1232 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:17,320 Speaker 1: North Korea and Cuba. You'll understand that. So they want 1233 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,320 Speaker 1: everybody to come up to their own banking system. You understand. 1234 01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,639 Speaker 1: Everybody already contribute to them. But once they what's it called, 1235 01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:29,640 Speaker 1: wipe everybody out. Now they get one currency, they had 1236 01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:36,120 Speaker 1: a currency that comes up under these phones. Everybody to 1237 01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:37,640 Speaker 1: get a phone, and all your money and all your 1238 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,080 Speaker 1: bank account and all your money goes into that phone 1239 01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,400 Speaker 1: and to your bank things, to your bankings, to their 1240 01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:49,400 Speaker 1: banking system. You get it. You understand. They try They 1241 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,840 Speaker 1: trying to. They what they're trying to do is they're 1242 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,559 Speaker 1: trying to there's no reason how they They never gave 1243 01:18:55,640 --> 01:19:01,679 Speaker 1: nobody nothing in the first place. Right, they're given it. Great, 1244 01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,720 Speaker 1: they're giving it to break the country down, man, to 1245 01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:10,160 Speaker 1: sending it to a recession, to sending it to a recession, 1246 01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 1: brother to know, and to a depression and that stuff. Yo, 1247 01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 1: when we get out of this we'll probably be dead, 1248 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, us in our fifties and sixties by time 1249 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 1: we get out of this. You think so, you think 1250 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,639 Speaker 1: it's gonna take that long, bro, But listen to me, man, 1251 01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,960 Speaker 1: the depression took eight years. But to get out of 1252 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:41,040 Speaker 1: the depression, and they just start seeing they just start 1253 01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:45,800 Speaker 1: seeing any possibility and promise into the sixties. Now this 1254 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,800 Speaker 1: is this ship is going back to the drug dealing days. 1255 01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,240 Speaker 1: Watch to see when I'm telling you, this is gonna 1256 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,120 Speaker 1: go back to the eighties. But it's gonna be hard 1257 01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 1: for them to do it. Wow. Man, let's let let's 1258 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,920 Speaker 1: hope we wrong, man. But but I don't doubt you. 1259 01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,120 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think. I don't think we're wrong. Brother. 1260 01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,439 Speaker 1: They they've been setting up y'all. Listen to me, man. 1261 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,559 Speaker 1: When they do they do different things to see can 1262 01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,920 Speaker 1: they get their way with stuff. That's how this, uh, 1263 01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,800 Speaker 1: the Luminati, that's how these systems work. When they got 1264 01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,559 Speaker 1: rid of when they knocked down those towers, those two 1265 01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,479 Speaker 1: towers and blamed it on those people stole all that 1266 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 1: goal from the World Track Center. You know, one of 1267 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,120 Speaker 1: the biggest banks that held all the gold in the 1268 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 1: United States was in the world trade centers, right right, 1269 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Okay, check it out. When did 1270 01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:46,880 Speaker 1: goal ever disappeared? When when the girl every burning melt, 1271 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,479 Speaker 1: they got none? They recovered no, none of that gold 1272 01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:58,080 Speaker 1: where that goal at? Well, we are greeting the motherfucker right, 1273 01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, I don't find that gold in problem United 1274 01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:02,960 Speaker 1: State where they go. Let when they got rid of 1275 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:07,040 Speaker 1: robbing uh, those those those those Arabic countries, from all 1276 01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:10,519 Speaker 1: that gold that was here in the United States. Bro, 1277 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,160 Speaker 1: that was one form of getting away with it. When 1278 01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,600 Speaker 1: they got rid of killing all those people that was 1279 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,360 Speaker 1: at work in the trade center, there was one way 1280 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,639 Speaker 1: of getting away with it. They said, we got away 1281 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:25,560 Speaker 1: with that, Let's go to the next phase. They do 1282 01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,240 Speaker 1: different things that they already wrote about. This kid has 1283 01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:32,719 Speaker 1: already written the two Tolls of Babylon would be destroyed 1284 01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:38,400 Speaker 1: by two two birds. Wasn't that already want? Yeah? No, 1285 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:46,360 Speaker 1: tradamis well one of the lumin naughtic two Tolls of Babylon. 1286 01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:51,200 Speaker 1: A lot of this stuff is already written. Brother, there 1287 01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:56,240 Speaker 1: if if if, if UK did the same thing that 1288 01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,439 Speaker 1: they doing, giving that day to people money gaved people 1289 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,559 Speaker 1: like that, and they ruined the UK economy and they 1290 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,600 Speaker 1: haven't recovered from it yet. You understand, what do you 1291 01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:07,960 Speaker 1: think it's gonna do to the United States. It's gonna 1292 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:14,240 Speaker 1: ruin the economy, Right's gonna ruin everything. On that note, 1293 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,320 Speaker 1: I think everybody needs to follow up on this ship. 1294 01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:22,280 Speaker 1: I know, I do. Um, it's just a scary thing. 1295 01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,280 Speaker 1: It's a scary thing, not knowing where we're gonna go, 1296 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 1: not knowing if you don't see your grandkids and kids 1297 01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:32,800 Speaker 1: grow up because of the way they're running his mother planet. Um, 1298 01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,000 Speaker 1: it's crazy. But yeah, you know, let me ask a 1299 01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,240 Speaker 1: genie for the people out there. What's the name of 1300 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:44,719 Speaker 1: your channel? Oh, it's uh the Gene Deal Show, Cooking 1301 01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:48,760 Speaker 1: a Conversation, y'all gotta right there, people, Gene Deal Show, 1302 01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,559 Speaker 1: Cooking and conversation. You know, like James said, he's gonna 1303 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,400 Speaker 1: be going up with at the Chocolate up man. It's 1304 01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 1: this beautiful thing, man, And see brothers getting along and 1305 01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:01,519 Speaker 1: moving forward to stuff. Man. That no people, James, you 1306 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:05,439 Speaker 1: want to send them up? Man? Thanks for watching another 1307 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,960 Speaker 1: episode episode fifty two or fifty three, I ain't sure. 1308 01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:14,760 Speaker 1: Episode fifty three with the games of Chronible and uh man, 1309 01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,840 Speaker 1: we appreciate y'all. Listening to us. 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