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Speaker 3: four days away from Game one of the NBA Finals

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Speaker 3: between the Celtics and Mavericks. As a Mavericks fan, are

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Speaker 3: you enjoying this long layoff because you get to savor

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Speaker 3: the Western Conference Final victory? Or is it like, let's

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Speaker 3: just get this stupid thing going already.

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Speaker 4: You know what the first the first one that you

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Speaker 4: just said, yes, you get a little time to get

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Speaker 4: a little time to save it, get it a little

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Speaker 4: time to rub it into the people, rub it in

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Speaker 4: their faces a little bit. The ones that didn't believe

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Speaker 4: that we would get to this point. You know, I

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Speaker 4: got some friends that before this thing even started. I

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Speaker 4: call it the finals. I said, the Celtics versus the Maths,

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Speaker 4: and people are like, your nuts, and my buddies were like, man,

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Speaker 4: ain't no way that Mavericks are making it to the finals.

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Speaker 2: And here we are.

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Speaker 4: We've reached the culmination of good basketball, good vibes, and

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Speaker 4: now we're in the finals.

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Speaker 2: Man. So it's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 3: It really is a good matchup for the NBA. And

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Speaker 3: I've heard some conversations and people say they don't know

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Speaker 3: about the matchup, but I do think it's if you

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Speaker 3: were to pick a matchup at the start of the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: probably would have been a top three matchup that you

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Speaker 3: could have chosen if you were the NBA.

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Speaker 2: So it should should.

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Speaker 3: Be really really good with the Mavericks in my mind,

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Speaker 3: actually being the draw over the Boston Celtics something that

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Speaker 3: we'll get into later. We'll get into this Celtics Mavericks

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Speaker 3: series in about twenty minutes or so. But everybody's talking

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Speaker 3: about it. They're still talking about it. What transpired a

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Speaker 3: little less than twenty four hours ago, the flagrant foul

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Speaker 3: on Caitlin Clark of the Indiana Fever by Kennedy Carter

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Speaker 3: of the Chica Sky, then the aftermath of what happened

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Speaker 3: the postgame press conference, Angel Reese, you just heard Isaac

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Speaker 3: say ended up being docked one thousand dollars for not

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Speaker 3: being available. Yet she has now become a major part

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Speaker 3: of the story because of her actions and her responses

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Speaker 3: to the hard fouls that were delivered to Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 3: and the Indiana fever. And it's funny because I was

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Speaker 3: on the air about an hour after this all happened,

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Speaker 3: and then the postgame show came, the postgame interviews happened,

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Speaker 3: and we were playing some of those back, and then

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Speaker 3: I had a chance to kind of sit on this

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Speaker 3: of Hazing's not the word, but you have to go

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Speaker 3: through some sort of ritual to be right. All pass this, yeah,

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Speaker 3: right of passes, perfect, perfect phrase. And now it's gotten

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Speaker 3: to the point where I think it's gone too far,

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Speaker 3: one of those things you know when you see it,

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Speaker 3: and I felt that that was the fo yesterday that

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Speaker 3: was committed on Caitlin Clark by Kennedy Carter, Like we've

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Speaker 3: gone We've gone too far now in terms of where

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Speaker 3: we are and trying to have Caitlin.

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Speaker 2: Clark have her right of passage in the WNBA.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's it's gotten to the point of

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Speaker 4: on their team in an organization. Obviously obviously she's new

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Speaker 4: where she seems like it's Caitlyn Clark against everybody. And

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Speaker 4: I don't mean just her opponents, and I'm not mean

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Speaker 2: And I know it's not It shouldn't come from her.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because Angel Reeves had made comments previously on

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Speaker 3: she was she was referencing Caitlyn Clark in all of that,

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Speaker 3: saying like, it's not because I'm a rookie, it's because

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Speaker 3: bring that sort of stuff on. That may be fine

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Speaker 3: and all as you're battling under the hoop, but this

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Speaker 3: was a blatant, direct, cheap shot hip check that may

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Speaker 3: about ten times more blatant. And then to have Kennedy

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Speaker 3: all you need to know, Like that that's of this

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Speaker 3: is a there there is jealousy. There may be uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, hates a pretty strong word, so I don't

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Speaker 3: want to say that, but there is, there is, there

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Speaker 2: Animosity, and then it was magnified.

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Speaker 3: I felt like this story actually and and some people

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Speaker 3: were on it earlier, but this story really took the

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Speaker 3: where are her teammates?

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Speaker 2: Oria Boston did not sprint to get into.

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Speaker 3: Kennedy Carter's face as Katelyn Clark was was sitting on

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Speaker 3: the ground. And we've seen some of this stuff before

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Speaker 3: of other teammates maybe not being there, And that's what

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Speaker 3: then tells you that it is Caitlyn Clark against everybody,

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Speaker 3: because it even seems that some of her own teammates

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Speaker 2: And she talks trash, you know, she does.

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Speaker 3: She'll give you know, she'll she'll give you a little

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Speaker 3: to the level of I think what she's received so far.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the trash talking is part of the game. There

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Speaker 4: are a lot of people that talk trash men's and

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Speaker 4: women's sports, right, but a lot of that times a

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Speaker 3: That's the other part of it is, to be quite honest,

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Speaker 3: it's not like she's tearing the league up right, no where,

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Speaker 3: the other layer to this is if she was scoring

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Speaker 3: That's one thing. She had eleven points yesterday exactly, and

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Speaker 3: because the balls in her hand a lot.

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Speaker 2: The offense starts with her, you know.

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Speaker 3: Then why isn't happening around you know, other spots in

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Speaker 3: her veterans and vice versa When Caitlin Clark is lying

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Speaker 3: like there's Angel Reese is obviously fit in well with

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Speaker 2: I look at Caitlin Clark's teammate at.

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Speaker 3: Iowa, Kate Martin and fitting in with the Las Vegas Aces,

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Speaker 3: like you see this all the time. And granted she

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Speaker 3: doesn't have the star power that Caitlin Clark has, but

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Speaker 3: that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's jealousy.

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Speaker 3: And if the w NBA really wants to do something

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Speaker 3: And I thought it was I thought it was ridiculous

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Speaker 3: make it easier on Caitlin Clark, because I think then

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Speaker 3: you're rigging the system. That wouldn't be that wouldn't be fair.

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Speaker 3: But you have to stand up for your members. You

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Speaker 3: have to stand up for your players. And if Kennedy

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Speaker 3: Carter was docked a game check because of a suspension,

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Speaker 3: she makes sixty four thousand dollars this season for the

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Speaker 3: Chicago Sky, you dock her a paycheck, it's fifteen hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's what that's what That's what it would be.

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Speaker 3: Now again, if you're only making sixty four thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: in the season and you're playing forty one games.

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty big deal. I don't think they you'd

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Speaker 2: be seeing cheap shots anymore.

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Speaker 3: I think it's time for not only is it the players,

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Speaker 3: about this because it's really going to hurt your bottom line,

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Speaker 3: Which was another theme that I ended up seeing coming

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Speaker 4: This stuff keeps on going. I'm not going to watch

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Speaker 4: it anymore. Yeah, I think people are getting fed up

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Speaker 4: one second and throw this and throw this at you though, Dan,

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Speaker 4: I really want to know if she feels, if Kaitlin

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Speaker 4: Clark feels so alien right now that she's not allowing

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Speaker 4: that she should. And I'm just throwing this out there

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Speaker 4: hopefully having some type of levity around the situation, situation

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Speaker 4: where is she doing everything that she can to fit

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Speaker 4: her fit in that locker room and give herself that

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Speaker 4: grace with her teammates because she's already felt alienated.

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Speaker 2: I want to know if there's.

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Speaker 4: Another layer to that story, right, like, because she doesn't

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Speaker 4: feel loved, she doesn't feel you know, brought in with

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Speaker 4: another question, because it's if it's not, then it's blatantly

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Speaker 4: just it's just a terrible, terrible place to be in

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Speaker 4: for And I would like to know that that question.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that you need also, you need

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Speaker 2: a veteran to.

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Speaker 3: Bring them in in that sort of way and to

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Speaker 3: help show the rope exactly. And you haven't seen that. Again,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what goes on behind those those you know,

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Speaker 3: closed doors. We saw a little interaction when Caitlyn Clark

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Speaker 3: had sprained her ankle and she was late from her

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Speaker 3: press conference and one of the players was kind of

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Speaker 3: giving her the business, But we don't know that. It

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Speaker 3: surely appears that her and e Leah Boston are not

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Speaker 3: in interactions and seeing and watching the game where because

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Speaker 3: she was the number one overall pick the previous year,

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Speaker 3: If Caitlyn Clark takes a hit and tears a ligament

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Speaker 3: he was injured half his own that's right. He can't

435
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Speaker 3: say months, that's right. It was like days, that's right,

436
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Speaker 3: that's right.

437
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Speaker 4: And seeing them there, and then you know, obviously being

438
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Speaker 4: a Dallas fan and getting the whole Porzingis thing happened

439
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Speaker 4: to trade. He comes in and I'm so excited for

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Speaker 4: the combination of Luca and Porzingis. I'm like, it's it's

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Speaker 4: dirt two point zero and there's no way that's not

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Speaker 4: going to work out. And then it, for some reason

443
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Speaker 4: doesn't work out. But the idea of him leaving, going

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Speaker 4: to get himself right and becoming this version of himself

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Speaker 4: which seems mature and humble and having humility in his

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Speaker 4: new role, and the dynamic that kind of exists with

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Speaker 4: the same thing with Kyrie, right, having some i think

448
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Speaker 4: being humbled and having some humility come in his situation.

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Speaker 2: That's some growth.

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Speaker 4: And so both stories are so juicy and so different,

451
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Speaker 4: but they all come and stem from.

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Speaker 2: The same place.

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Speaker 4: Sure, people that have been at a certain place, humbled

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Speaker 4: in that place and having to leave and reinvent themselves

455
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Speaker 4: in different places. And the fact that the culmination of

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Speaker 4: that story ends up being in the NBA Finals against

457
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Speaker 4: their former teams. It's just crazy. So it's hard to

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Speaker 4: pick one. But obviously it's got to be the Kyrie thing.

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Speaker 4: It's such a big deal.

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Speaker 3: I think the Kyrie thing is the story, and I

461
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Speaker 3: also think it's a story because I don't know if

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Speaker 3: Porzingis plays. I don't think that he does. To be

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Speaker 3: honest with you, I just don't. You've got maximum seven

464
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Speaker 3: games left in your season. At some point there's got

465
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Speaker 3: to be some ramp up and for and I know

466
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Speaker 3: the road that they travel to get here was made

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Speaker 3: easier because of the injuries that the other teams ended

468
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Speaker 3: up dealing with Donovan Mitchell, Jimmy Butler, most recently Tyree's Halliburton.

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Speaker 3: It's not to say Boston wasn't the better team in

470
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Speaker 3: you know, each of those series, because they were, but

471
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Speaker 3: it made life a little bit easier. You just don't know,

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Speaker 3: all right, do we really need Christops Porzingis, and I

473
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Speaker 3: just don't think that there's a way to incorporate him

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Speaker 3: over these final two weeks of the season and these

475
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Speaker 3: seven games to make it work where it would be

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Speaker 3: worthwhile without risking serious injury to the player. And and

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Speaker 3: I know, like you bring in Christops Porzingis to win

478
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Speaker 3: an NBA championship and you're in the NBA Finals, I

479
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: just think it actually has does more harm than good

480
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Speaker 3: to the other players in trying to figure it out

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Speaker 3: a way to incorporate him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard. I know we talked about this last week.

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Speaker 4: I felt it may have been two weeks ago, but

484
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Speaker 4: I felt that they were talking about he had a

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Speaker 4: possibility of coming back in Game four against the Pacers,

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Speaker 4: and the fans are like, no, he said, wait to

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Speaker 4: the finals, and I thought, I'm the same.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I thought they should have played him if he could

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Speaker 4: have played and had a little, you know, like you said,

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Speaker 4: a sort of a ramp up towards the finals to

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Speaker 4: get back, you know, into the flow with the teammates.

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's it's hard to bring somebody back

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Speaker 4: in the thralls of.

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Speaker 2: Competition the way they are right now.

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Speaker 3: So it is tough and not to not I'm just

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Speaker 3: gonna use Derek White as an example. But if if

498
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Speaker 3: Derek White was the one who was hurt and Chris

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Speaker 3: Stops Porzingis was the one who was playing, I actually

500
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Speaker 3: think it's probably easier to be like, all right, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna keep Derek White out because I think the Celtics

502
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Speaker 3: do need size, especially with Lively and Gafford, and even

503
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Speaker 3: more importantly on the defensive end of just having someone

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Speaker 3: there of that stature, especially if Kyrie and Lucy getting

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Speaker 3: to the basket. So that's why I also think it's

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Speaker 3: it's a bit of a dilemma because they do think

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Speaker 3: that the Mavericks will be able to take.

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Speaker 2: Advantage of the lack of size that Boston.

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Speaker 4: And even on top of that, in the regular season

510
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Speaker 4: when they did play, Gafford was unplayable because Porzingis stretches

511
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Speaker 4: them so only offensive end. It brings out that shot blocker,

512
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Speaker 4: which in the series in OKCE and Minnesota, Gafford and

513
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Speaker 4: Lively were able to sit in the paint because of

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Speaker 4: Rudy Gobert, right, And so that's why a lot of

515
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Speaker 4: the analysts were saying they needed to play small to

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Speaker 4: have a chance to win.

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Speaker 2: It was true.

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Speaker 4: And so with Porzinga's on offense with Boston, you're able

519
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Speaker 4: to play that five out. He can go in the

520
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Speaker 4: post and he can score. But when you play the

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Speaker 4: five out, it gives their offense a dynamic that they

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Speaker 4: don't have right now, and it makes Dallas Biggs not

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Speaker 4: be as big of a down lowis Fogs being able

524
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Speaker 4: to block shots, and that's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: He's carry roads.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dan Byer face of the NBA discussion coming up next,

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Speaker 3: but first let's jump over to the news desk. Guysy

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Speaker 3: glowing crowns with us love from the tierrec dot com studios,

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Speaker 3: giving us the news from the w NBA and so

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Speaker 3: much more today.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, that's our top story, Fellows.

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Speaker 5: The w NBA announcing this morning that after review, the

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Speaker 5: league has retroactively upgraded the away from the ball foul

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Speaker 5: to the Chicago's Kennedy Carter Committee yesterday on Indiana's Caitlin

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Speaker 5: Clark from a common foul to a flagrant foul penalty

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Speaker 5: one For Kennedy Carter's part, overnight, she tweeted, and I

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Speaker 5: quote we grown as f and y'all talking about enforcer

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Speaker 5: laughing emoji man g T f O h hoop or

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Speaker 5: shut up dot dot dot dot unquote. No word yet

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Speaker 5: on what g T foh stands for, but I'm guessing

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Speaker 5: it stands for gee that foul obviously hurt anyway.

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Speaker 1: The WNBA.

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Speaker 5: Also find Chicago's Angel Reese Oh sorry the WWE NBA,

544
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Speaker 5: as Dan Byers so accurately.

545
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: Termed it earlier.

546
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Speaker 5: Also find Chicago's Angel Reach one thousand dollars for failing

547
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Speaker 5: to make herself available to the media after yesterday's game,

548
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Speaker 5: and find the Chicago organization five thousand dollars for failing

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Speaker 5: to comply with league media policies. Let's find out if

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Speaker 5: the Chicago organization had any comments.

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Speaker 2: I'm here so I don't get fined.

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Speaker 1: Oops. Sorry, press the wrong button there anyway.

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Speaker 5: In Game six of the NHL's Eastern Conference Finals on

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Speaker 5: Saturday night, the Florida Panthers defeated the New York Rangers

555
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Speaker 5: two to one to win the series four games to

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Speaker 5: two in advance to the Stanley Cup Final for a

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Speaker 5: second straight season, where they will face either the Edmonton

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Speaker 5: Oilers or Dallas Stars and coming up tonight at eight

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Speaker 5: pm Eastern Edmonton will host Dallas in Game six of

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Speaker 5: the Western Conference Finals, with the Oilers leading that series

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Speaker 5: three games to two. Finally, in Major League Baseball on

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Speaker 5: Saturday night, Aaron Judge of the Yankees it is major

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00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 5: league leading twenty first home run in their seven to

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Speaker 5: three victory at San Francisco.

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Speaker 6: Dan and Carrie back to you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Isaac. Two bits of house cleaning.

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Speaker 2: Number one.

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Speaker 3: The reason why Carrie submitted a retraction earlier when he

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Speaker 3: said girls tell a story, why did you make sure

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Speaker 3: that you wanted to say women and not girls.

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Speaker 4: I just don't want to respect I don't want to

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Speaker 4: disrespect that women.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no.

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Speaker 4: My mother is listening to this show and she said,

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Speaker 4: you do not call those girls girls. There are women.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, they're women, mom. So that was

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Speaker 4: the reason that I changed it up.

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Speaker 3: My mom likes to send in texts and tell me

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Speaker 3: like she disagrees with my take. You know, she's just like,

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Speaker 3: you're an idiot. No, she doesn't say that, by the way, Carrie.

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Speaker 3: Carrie just liked to tweet from Pat that said watch

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Speaker 3: the game tape, Caitlyn Clark isn't as clean as you're

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Speaker 3: trying to portray. I don't think we're trying to portray

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Speaker 3: Caitlyn Clark is being clean by any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 3: She does talk a little here and there. For sure,

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Speaker 3: she's complained with the officials. We saw it in college,

587
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Speaker 3: we see it in the NBA when she got teed up.

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Speaker 3: But there is a difference when someone is zeroing in

589
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Speaker 3: on you on an inbounds and just trying to take

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Speaker 3: you out. If Kitlyn Clark's having beef with the officials,

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Speaker 3: I don't think that has anything to do with what

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Speaker 3: the Chicago Sky are dealing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there can It could be a hard file.

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Speaker 4: We talked about it. You've talked about like Angel Rees

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Speaker 4: being hard, you know, getting the hard files and saying

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Speaker 4: she loved it as basketball, And that can happen during

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Speaker 4: the play that was of Blakant.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't even have the ball. She's being targeted in

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Speaker 2: that situation.

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Speaker 3: All right, face of the NBA conversation now picks up

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Speaker 3: here Anthony Edwards not the guy, and now Luka Doncic

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Speaker 3: in place. Did you think the whole conversation was comical

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Speaker 3: of of the NBA or do you just think it

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Speaker 3: was too soon that people were crowning Anthony Edwards because

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Speaker 3: my whole take on it was this was face of

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Speaker 3: the NBA.

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00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: You just you know it when it's there.

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Speaker 3: And and honestly, until Lebron retires, he's still gonna be

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Speaker 3: face to the NBA. I don't care if there's a

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Speaker 3: seventh seed and nine seed, a ten seed, not me

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs, right, he's gonna be the face of

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Speaker 3: the NBA. But once he ends up moving on, it's

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Speaker 3: all right. Who carries that torch? And I think it's

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Speaker 3: more of a matter. Here's why I don't mind the discussion.

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Speaker 3: I just put I'll put it that way because you

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Speaker 3: know who isn't And so if you are having a

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Speaker 3: discussion who is or who maybe then they're in the conversation. Sure,

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Speaker 3: But for like for the NBA finals, Jason Tatum not

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Speaker 3: gonna be the face of the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Just not gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, there's you know, the other great players, Jalen Brunson,

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Speaker 3: for as great as he is, he's not gonna be

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Speaker 3: the face of the NBA. But Anthony Edwards was showing

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00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 3: so much and so much promise at such a young age.

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Speaker 3: You're like, this could be a candidate. This could be

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Speaker 3: you know, Luca. Luca's had that label for years and

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Speaker 3: he could be the guy, and then they kind of

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Speaker 3: fall off and you're like, well, maybe he's not going

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Speaker 3: to be that guy if he doesn't end up coming through.

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Speaker 3: And now it's back up to that point. So I

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Speaker 3: think Anthony Edwards has the possibility. I think Luka Doncic

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Speaker 3: has the possibility. It's who's the next greatest player in

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Speaker 3: the NBA or the best player in the NBA could

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Speaker 3: be Victor wamban Yama for everything. I just we know

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Speaker 3: who isn't right, and we are still trying to find

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Speaker 3: out who is. And that's why, like, I'm actually okay

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Speaker 3: with the conversation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the conversation just it makes me laugh a lot though,

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Speaker 4: because for me, I take into consideration. So I will

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Speaker 4: say this, it's two parts of this, right, So be

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Speaker 4: in the face of the NBA. Obviously, you got to

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Speaker 4: be good and you have to win a lot and

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00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 4: you have to do certain things right there. There's a

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Speaker 4: criteria that goes along with your playing ability to be

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Speaker 4: the face of the NBA.

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Speaker 2: And when you.

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Speaker 4: Start saying this guy is the face of the NBA

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Speaker 4: in the midst of a run which had which hasn't

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00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 4: been completed yet. It's just it's lunacy when I think

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Speaker 4: about it, because again, you can win that round, in

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Speaker 4: the next round, you look human, and then we're having

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Speaker 4: a whole different discussion right where Anthony Edwards the first

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Speaker 4: two rounds looked phenomenal and you're like, man, he might be.

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Speaker 4: Then you come into this, into the conference finals, and

655
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Speaker 4: he just looks kind of normal, still good, but normal.

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Speaker 4: And then I think the other part of that is,

657
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Speaker 4: and the reason why Anthony was probably been put in

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Speaker 4: that spot is because his personality.

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Speaker 2: People want to hear from him.

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Speaker 4: People want to know what he's doing, People want to

661
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Speaker 4: know the next thing he's gonna say, right, and so

662
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Speaker 4: he fits all the molds.

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Speaker 2: So I do understand why.

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Speaker 4: But it's since we live in these in this prisoner

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Speaker 4: of the moment situation where we want to anoint the

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Speaker 4: next big.

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Speaker 2: Thing and be the first one to do it. That's

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Speaker 2: fair and so that part.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, when it comes to the face

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Speaker 4: of NBA, man, it's gonna materialize in the way that

671
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Speaker 4: it should. And if you win, like Luca has that chance,

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Speaker 4: I still don't know if he'd be the face of

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Speaker 4: the NBA because of the language barrier. So it's it's

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Speaker 4: just so many different factors.

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Speaker 3: That going to play with it. You are correct in

676
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Speaker 3: that matter. It is a conversation that isn't just a

677
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Speaker 3: Johnny come Lately. I think in the past we looked

678
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Speaker 3: at it, who's going to carry the torch? That's how

679
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Speaker 3: we ended up looking at it. And I do think

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Speaker 3: that there are two similar things because you knew Larry

681
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Speaker 3: Bird was at the end of his career in the

682
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Speaker 3: late eighties early nineties with his back problems, and Magic

683
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Speaker 3: obviously wasn't going to be playing tons of years. And

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Speaker 3: then you had the HIV diagnosis, and there's Michael Jordan,

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Speaker 3: you know, you know, ready to take that torch from

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Speaker 3: Bird and Magic and carry carry it himself for the

687
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Speaker 3: next decade plus. And then he had Kobe's great success.

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Speaker 3: And it's so those conversations have happened. That's nothing new.

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Speaker 3: But to your point, we weren't saying it in nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty six when Jordan was scoring sixty three points. We

691
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Speaker 3: were like, that's pretty amazing. Look at Jordan's sixty three.

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Speaker 3: You know, they lose the series and lose the game

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Speaker 3: of the Celtics, you know, like but at that point,

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Speaker 3: like there's something where I don't think we were having

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Speaker 3: that conversation at that time, but maybe that's your you know,

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Speaker 3: arrival moment, if you will. But we weren't saying, all right,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna be the face of the NBA. There's still

698
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Speaker 3: levels that he had to get to.

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Speaker 4: And then one more thing when that and one more

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Speaker 4: thing on that. It's like there's so much parody in

701
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Speaker 4: the NBA. Now it's gonna be guys winning here and there,

702
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Speaker 4: and you may win one and you may not win again.

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Speaker 4: And so is it gonna be solely based off the

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Speaker 4: championships and what you do as a winner or is

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Speaker 4: it going to be the quotes that you say? And

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Speaker 4: I think that conversation ships all this stuff. I'll tell

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Speaker 4: you the other big one.

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Speaker 2: Healthy.

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Speaker 3: You know, who's gonna be able to actually stay healthy?

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Speaker 3: And you know Jordan early in his career when he missed,

711
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Speaker 3: you know, the time of this broken foot, you wouldn't

712
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Speaker 3: have maybe at that point you'd be like red flag.

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Speaker 3: Remember you missed that, you know most of that season

714
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Speaker 3: because of his of his foot right, And now health

715
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Speaker 3: is much more bigger much more bigger conversation, topic of

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Speaker 3: conversation when you're talking about guys in there their lasting

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Speaker 3: image in the NBA. He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 3: We are alive for the tier raq dot com studios.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna shift gears. We actually are going

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Speaker 3: to talk NFL because one NFL coach said something this

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Speaker 3: week that sounds great. I just don't believe a word

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Speaker 3: of it. He's carry on, Dan, that's next year on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer. He's the all Pro. Carry Rhoades with you.

725
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Speaker 3: Still a few days away from Game one of the

726
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 3: NBA Finals and still a few months away from the

727
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Speaker 3: start of the NFL season, but there was some NFL

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Speaker 3: news carry Yeah that surfaced earlier this week. Ota is

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Speaker 3: taking place hearing coaches talk, players talk, and one of

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Speaker 3: the coaches that spoke was Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 3: who was a hot candidate during the coaching cycle where

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Speaker 3: there were eight vacancies in the NFL. He in fact

733
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Speaker 3: was still alive up until about the final two vacancies.

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Speaker 3: The Seahawks and the Commanders had not made their hires

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Speaker 3: as of yet, and then Johnson ended up with drawing

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Speaker 3: with the Seahawks, and then the commander's contingent was actually

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Speaker 3: on their way to Detroit to speak with him and

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Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn and Johnson ended up dropping out. So here

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Speaker 3: was Johnson explaining on why he chose to stay in

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Speaker 3: Detroit as the Lions OC in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 11: Okay, eight openings this past year. What would you set

742
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Speaker 11: the over under how many still have jobs? I would

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Speaker 11: say there's a good chance five of them are out

744
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 11: of jobs in three years. I love what I'm doing

745
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 11: right now, love it, love, I love where I'm at,

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Speaker 11: my family, loves where we're at, love the people that

747
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Speaker 11: we're doing it with, and so I'm not willing to

748
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Speaker 11: go down the other path yet unless I feel really

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Speaker 11: good about how it's going to unfold.

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Speaker 3: All right, there's do you like that comment for Ben

751
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 3: Johnson on why he decided to stay with the Lions.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 4: I think it's if it's true, it sounds good, it

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Speaker 4: makes it's half true.

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Speaker 2: You're right, it makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure there was some negotiation stuff that took place

757
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 4: that he didn't feel good about at some of those places.

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Speaker 4: But again, if you know, if his ultimate goal was

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Speaker 4: to be a head coach. You want to be a

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Speaker 4: head coach, you're probably gonna take a job, right, Yes,

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Speaker 4: But if there's some that family element of it, if

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Speaker 4: there is truth around that, I could see that also

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Speaker 4: being a plausible a plausible situation.

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Speaker 2: So I think I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I think it's half truth, and the way that he

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Speaker 4: said it, I would be okay with that response.

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Speaker 3: All right about you, Dan, I'm gonna let Chris Prefet talk,

768
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Speaker 3: but you have to keep it short, Chris, because we

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Speaker 3: got to play the other piece of the audio and

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Speaker 3: I got something to say.

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Speaker 2: What do you got?

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Speaker 7: So definitely there was some falling out that happened with

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Speaker 7: the commanders. I think we know that considering the back

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Speaker 7: and forth they had. But also at the top of

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Speaker 7: it too is like he's thirty eight. I think sometimes

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Speaker 7: you're rushing these I mean, to his point, I think

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00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 7: we're rushing these coordinators too fast into a head coaching position.

778
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Speaker 7: And he's at an organization that famously has someone who

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Speaker 7: has no coordinator background as the head coach. I think

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Speaker 7: he understands a little bit the difference and the jump

781
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 7: in and the difference and skills between coordinating versus head coach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very fair. I agree with him that his

783
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: family probably loves Detroit. I love the Midwest, you know

784
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: I do, And that may be fine. But when you're

785
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: a coach, there's a coach's family and there's rules that

786
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: go along with it. You know, you're not going to

787
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Speaker 3: be in a place for thirty five years. You're not

788
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Speaker 3: going to It's just it's not going to happen. He

789
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Speaker 3: would not be the first coach to take a job

790
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Speaker 3: elsewhere and his family not necessarily love it. So I

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Speaker 3: appreciate if he is taking his family's consideration into the decision.

792
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Speaker 3: But what's the difference between now and say, twelve months

793
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Speaker 3: from now, or what would be now eight or nine

794
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 3: months from now if you're a coach?

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Speaker 2: Just not much different.

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Speaker 3: What I thought was interesting was the first part that

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00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: he said about you know, hey, I want to get

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Speaker 3: to that second contract. Eight of these coaches? How many

799
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Speaker 3: are going to be fired? Four or five of them?

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Speaker 3: When you look at the actual vacancies, there's there's there's

801
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: interesting stuff on who was vacant in what jobs were vacant,

802
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Speaker 3: and which ones weren't. Justin Herbert quarterback of the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Jim Harbaughs his coach. I don't think that job's going

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Speaker 3: to be vacant because they have a quarterback. Washington didn't

805
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Speaker 3: have a quarterback at the time. They had the second

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Speaker 3: overall pick, the Seahawk, said Gino Smith. The Tennessee Titans

807
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Speaker 3: have Will Lovis second round pick. The alunt of Falcons

808
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 3: at that point weren't in on Kirk Cousins. There was

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Speaker 3: free agency wasn't happening. There was no quarterback there. New

810
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 3: England was gonna have a top pick, but it wasn't

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Speaker 3: number one overall. The point being is, I think Ben

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Speaker 3: Johnson wants to go to a place where there's a quarterback, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and a quarterback in place, And maybe you can't say that,

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Speaker 3: but that's where I think why Ben Johnson didn't necessarily

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Speaker 3: take any of the jobs. Do we got the last

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Speaker 3: bit that we could play from quick Chris just just

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Speaker 3: in what he said, maybe we'd just I thought there

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Speaker 3: were two cuts? Did we playing back to back?

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Speaker 2: Are we good? Yeah? Back? Okay? There it is, so

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00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: there there. I thought there was another cut.

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Speaker 3: But that's the that's the point of it of if

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Speaker 3: you're Ben Johnson, you want to go to a place,

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Speaker 3: and I think he gave Seattle an interview because I

824
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Speaker 3: think he felt John Schneider in that front office were stable,

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Speaker 3: that there was the possibility. But I think in the end,

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Speaker 3: you're like, all right, who is my quarterback? Isn't gonna

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Speaker 3: be Gino Smith? Are we gonna be bad enough to

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Speaker 3: draft the guy at number two and number three? Had

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Speaker 3: a bunch of good quarterbacks in this draft, as we

830
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Speaker 3: saw Jaden Daniels and Drake Mago two and three. But

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Speaker 3: maybe he's not enamored with it.

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Speaker 2: I just think that that is probably the place, uh,

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Speaker 2: and the reason why Ben Johnson said what he said

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Speaker 2: and did what he did, that the vacancies that were

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Speaker 2: available just weren't quarterback friendly, except really with the Chargers,

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Speaker 2: and if they had their sites set on Jim Harball,

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Speaker 2: you're not getting that job. That makes makes makes a

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Speaker 2: lot of sense.

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Speaker 4: I think as a OC and coming from a situation

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Speaker 4: where he had a stable quarterback and a quarterback that was,

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Speaker 4: you know, competent enough to run his offense the way

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Speaker 4: that he wanted it, to go to a situation where

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00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 4: that didn't exist would probably be less desirable.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: To me, and I know the Panthers were in on

846
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Speaker 3: him and he shunned them in twenty twenty three and

847
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Speaker 3: did again in twenty twenty four, and who knows. The

848
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Speaker 3: jury's still out on Bryce Young, so we'll have that discussion.

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Speaker 3: He's Carrier Roads. I'm Dan Byer, live from the tierrach

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Speaker 3: that was said on this network twenty four hours ago

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Speaker 3: still seems pretty irrelevant at this minute.

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Speaker 2: Been on my mind, and it's been on my mind

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Speaker 12: I've thought about this over the last few years in

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Speaker 12: where we look at brands in sports, NFL, Major League Baseball,

870
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 12: and in this case, the NBA, because I was just

871
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 12: astonished at how the Golden State Warriors brand had evolved

872
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 12: over what is now the past decade where there was

873
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 12: a point where the only thing that I remember people

874
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 12: talking about the Warriors were run TMC and maybe a

875
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 12: few Baron Davis highlights that we believe team Yes, that

876
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 12: was it, like it was buried in the Bay Area.

877
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: Is how I felt about the Golden State Warriors for

878
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 3: a majority of my life up until Steph Curry becomes

879
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: Steph Curry, Steve Kurt takes over and they're off and running,

880
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 3: because even when Mark Jackson was there early, Steph wasn't

881
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 3: Steph at that point. It was really when Steve Kurt

882
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: took over and Clay became who Clay is and Draymond

883
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 3: is Draymond and now the Warriors are are this brand

884
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: that I had actually felt had risen as high as

885
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: number two in the NBA, that I felt that their

886
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: brand was so popular that they were a topic of

887
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: conversation no matter what, that they were only behind the

888
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: Los Angeles Lakers, and that then told me, well, then

889
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: if the Warriors moved up to two, who fell, Well,

890
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: the Bulls had their run, and I think in the nineties, honestly,

891
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: they were probably more popular than the Lakers. Maybe the

892
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 3: Lakers ended up dropping a spot, but you also have

893
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: a team like the New York Knicks that were popular

894
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: and popular in the city, and we saw how crazy

895
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: things can get when the Knicks are good. But the

896
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: Knicks were bad. The Knicks were bad for a long time,

897
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 3: and they that cachet didn't end up carrying over. And

898
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: then you had the Boston Celtics, some would argue the

899
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: most storied franchise in the NBA, And honestly, them and

900
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: the Lakers playing off each other was the starting point

901
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: for how I got to thinking about this because I

902
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: just thought it was so amazing that I could hate

903
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 3: both teams in the NBA finals when I was growing

904
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: up in the eighties. But it was true because I

905
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 3: hated the Celtics and I sure sec didn't like the Lakers,

906
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: so I really didn't care who won in the NBA

907
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: finals because I didn't like either team, and they ended

908
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: up playing in eighty four, ended up playing in eighty five,

909
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: they ended up playing in eighty seven, and it was

910
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: just all right enough. And this is forty years ago,

911
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 3: but so now here we are about to enter fast

912
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: forward to present day June second, twenty twenty four, and

913
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: we go into an NBA Finals where that story franchise

914
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 3: of the Boston Celtics is playing second fiddle to their opponent.

915
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 3: That isn't the Los Angeles Lakers, that isn't the Golden

916
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 3: State Warriors, It's the Dallas Mavericks. Sorry, the Dallas Mavericks

917
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 3: are the draw in this series. People are not tuning

918
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 3: in to go and watch Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown

919
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 3: and the Boston Celtics. They may be in Massachusetts, they

920
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: may be in Maine, in Vermont, New Hampshire, but the

921
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 3: rest of the country is not enamored with the Boston Celtics.

922
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: And in fact, I would argue that outside of the

923
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight championship with Paul Pearson, Kevin Garnett

924
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: and Ray Allen, that for about the past thirty five

925
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: to forty years, no one has been enamored with the

926
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Speaker 3: Boston Celtics. That they have fallen into not a Johnny

927
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: Come Lately. But their brand is not the brand of

928
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: the NBA, the true brand of the NBA. And I'm

929
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 3: sorry Celtics fans, the Lakers are the brand of the NBA.

930
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: It is not the Boston Celtics.

931
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 3: And if you need any evidence, just look at who

932
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: the main draws of this NBA Finals, because it's not

933
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: the team in Boston.

934
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 4: Man, this is a layered conversation, and everything you said

935
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 4: is pretty accurate. I think when you talk about just

936
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 4: this Finals as a whole, as a whole, as this brand,

937
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 4: you're talking about Dallas being the story going into this

938
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 4: into this final. I think the reason they are the

939
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 4: story in this final is because of the tie with

940
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 4: the Celtics stuff. So I think there is a combination

941
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Speaker 4: of both of those being true. I think Dallas is

942
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 4: the story with what they can do with the dynamic.

943
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: Duo going in Luca's first Chance.

944
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 4: But I think the biggest story with this game is

945
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 4: you know, Kyrie going back to Boston, which the Boston

946
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 4: tie is still there, and then you have the young

947
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 4: Guns and you know Tatum and Brown trying to kind

948
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: of elevate the brand back into that light that we've

949
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 4: talked about before, which you just elekally very eloquently to

950
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 4: state it. I think, so I think the tie is

951
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 4: still there with Boston.

952
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: I think with.

953
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 4: The brand of the NBA and how that goes, I

954
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 4: just think it's we live, we don't live in the

955
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: revisionary laying when it comes to talk about the Celtics,

956
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 4: talk about the Lakers of the eighties and and how

957
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 4: you know beautiful that story was and how Magic and

958
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 4: Larry and those guys competed at an all time level

959
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 4: where that story even you take that story back even

960
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 4: and stuff further, just them too as being able to

961
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 4: evolve the brand of the NBA as a whole, those

962
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 4: two coming out of college playing each other in the finals,

963
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 4: So having that history there and you take that to

964
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: the next level where those two are competing with two

965
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 4: of the most story franchises and franchises, and obviously it

966
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 4: raises it up to a different level. But when you

967
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 4: talk about like current brands, and I do think you

968
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 4: do have to say Golden State is up there now

969
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 4: and has surpassed Boston in that in that conversation, but

970
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: now Boston being back there and having a chance to

971
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 4: win it again. It just kind of makes this story

972
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 4: come in this roundabout way where it can be Boston

973
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 4: again at the top of that change.

974
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 2: So you think that there are ties, and there are ties.

975
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 3: I just don't think that the country cares necessarily that

976
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 3: Kyrie is going back to Boston.

977
00:46:59,480 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 12: You know.

978
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 3: No, I think that Boston cares that Kyrie's going back

979
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: to Boston. And I think that that, you know, in

980
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: a porzingis angle, I don't think carries the weighty. The

981
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 3: Mavericks are the Mavericks because of Luca and that is

982
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: the draw in the NBA Finals and having a star

983
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 3: player and it it's not meant to be an indictment,

984
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 3: but it does tell you that Jason Tatum and Jaylen

985
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: Brown are not up to that level, and especially when

986
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: you compare it to Celtic greats. And I don't even

987
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: want to use the success of the Celtics in this

988
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: scenario to pinpoint it. When you take a bad Lakers team,

989
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 3: the Lakers were still the story. So the Lakers have

990
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: been the story. You can rattle off crappy players of

991
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: the Lakers, but there was still a story because you're like,

992
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 3: how is this team going to get back when are

993
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: they going to bring in the stars. When's the glitz

994
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 3: and glam, you know, going to be back? And yeah,

995
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 3: it may be cosmetic, but that's what branding is, and

996
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: that's what the Lakers are. There are some there, some

997
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 3: bad Celtics teams that made no waves whatsoever. At least

998
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 3: when you reminisce the Lakers passed, you can laugh and

999
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: look back and say the Lonzo Ball days, Yeah, smush Parker,

1000
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: those those names, the Nick van Exel years, like those,

1001
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: in no disrespect to Nick van Xel had a solid

1002
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: NBA career, but it pales in comparison to obviously the

1003
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: Shaq Kobe Lakers and the Magic Johnson Lakers. But those

1004
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 3: teams are still Lakers teams that we're talking about. When

1005
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: the Lakers weren't good, they still had Kobe Bryant. They

1006
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: were still a story, you know, in his later years

1007
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: playing Boston. Like I remember going to a Celtics Bucks

1008
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,959
Speaker 3: game and I don't know, maybe ninety four ninety five,

1009
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 3: and like Dino Rajah was the best player that I'm

1010
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 3: watching on the Boston.

1011
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: Celtics, you know.

1012
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 3: Like, so you want to talk about fall off and

1013
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: then you look about at the what they've got in

1014
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 3: terms of championships again, one since nineteen eighty six.

1015
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: One that's it in two thousand and eight.

1016
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so while I may not believe that the

1017
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: championship is that legit, there was two thousand, two thousand

1018
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 3: and one, two thousand and two, there was two thousand

1019
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: and nine, then there was twenty ten. So you know,

1020
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 3: so with all of that, it just the Warriors may

1021
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: fall off when Steve Kurr and Steph Curry end up

1022
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: moving on, they're not going to do the same. Maybe

1023
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: like the Bulls. We'll have to see right right, right,

1024
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: But the Lakers are always a part of that conversation,

1025
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: and I just don't think that the Celtics are. And

1026
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: for a league that I think so for so long

1027
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: was held up by the Lakers and the Celtics, and

1028
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: when you look at their history, seventeen championships, the big rivalries,

1029
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: I just feel that the Lakers have carried more weight

1030
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 3: in being that brand of the NBA that it's not

1031
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: a two it's not a two horse race, it's a

1032
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: one horse race with the Lakers leading it.

1033
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I hear what you're saying with the

1034
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 4: brand part of it, and It's funny because obviously Boston

1035
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 4: is one more Steell in this in this time right now,

1036
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 4: in this timeframe obviously because of being to the conference

1037
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 4: finals and being in the mix, I think there's one games,

1038
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 4: not championships. But yeah, it's exactly so we're talking about

1039
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: the brands. I think I think the conversation is what

1040
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 4: does the brand mean? It's the brand just about the

1041
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 4: talk aesthetic like you just said, or is it winning

1042
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 4: and being in the conversation every year for being the

1043
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 4: best team, Because that's two different conversations, obviously, and I

1044
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 4: think that's where I'm getting a little, I guess a

1045
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 4: little having a little subjectivity as far as the Lakers

1046
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 4: being the brand, because if it wasn't it wasn't for

1047
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 4: Lebron right now, they wouldn't even be in discussion either.

1048
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 4: And so I think it falls on being the brand

1049
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 4: of Lebron and not the brand of the Lakers, And

1050
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 4: so I would differentiate the two between that.

1051
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: I did extend an offer to one.

1052
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: Steve Hartman and Monte Milanos yesterday had carried on this discussion.

1053
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 3: Steve has declined. Monte adrenas in just a little bit,

1054
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 3: Steve bo Benton may be biased as a Lakers fan,

1055
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: Where do you stand on this topic conversation that we've

1056
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 3: had over the last twenty four hours here on Fox.

1057
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 6: The Los Angeles Lakers, as bad as they may be

1058
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 6: and have been overall in the past what twelve years

1059
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 6: or whatever, they at least have the decency to win

1060
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 6: a title every decade. And like I have their record here,

1061
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 6: they won the finals in twenty ten over the Boston Celtics.

1062
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 6: Then their low point was a seventeen and sixty five

1063
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 6: season in twenty five, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, and then

1064
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty they won the NBA Finals. So like

1065
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 6: in all that golf, they still won another finals before

1066
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 6: the Boston Celtics did, and I think before the Celtics

1067
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 6: even got back to the finals.

1068
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 4: So is there anything bo with the you know, sustaining

1069
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 4: of excellence?

1070
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: Does that matter to you at all?

1071
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 6: I mean, it'd be ideal, but like winning is the

1072
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 6: name of the game. What ticks me off a little

1073
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 6: bit is if the Lakers had the regular season success

1074
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 6: that the Celtics have had over the last few years,

1075
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 6: but didn't win a championship the way the Celtics haven't. Yeah,

1076
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 6: you'd never hear the end of it, because the expectation

1077
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 6: for the Lakers are different, and I don't want to

1078
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 6: hear about the Celtics in the same tier as the

1079
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 6: Lakers if they're not getting the same expectations and the

1080
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 6: same criticism for not finishing what they're supposed to do.

1081
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 7: They do get a lot of that criticism, though I

1082
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Speaker 7: think this isn't a cowboys situation. I just I feel like,

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00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 7: at least for the NBA, there is we were allowed

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00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 7: to have a duopoly of two teams that are the

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00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 7: top ones here. This isn't are the Lakers bigger than

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00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 7: the Celtics or the Celtics bigger Lakers.

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00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: They're like when I had.

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00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: Than the Celtics would as a kid, was the NBA

1089
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 3: first Lakers.

1090
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 2: It was.

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00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 7: It was Lakers versus Celtics. It's always been Lakers versus Celtics.

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00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 7: I would always been.

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00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 6: I would like to see criticism of the Boston Celtics

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00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 6: for not winning the title, because I don't see it.

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00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 4: No, no, no, there is criticism of them not win

1096
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 4: the title. I mean that's what not these two are

1097
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 4: being you know, I did I disagree, I don't.

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00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 6: I don't see any not to the degree that the

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00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 6: Los Angeles Lakers get criticism for anything.

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00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: They're like not even given Dayalen Brown third Team All

1101
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 4: All NBA because of them not being able to win.

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00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 3: Danny and now Brad Stevens. And they've done great jobs

1103
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 3: and keeping their teams competitive and putting teams together, but

1104
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 3: they have lived, specifically Danny Ainge, She's just lived off

1105
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 3: of the two thousand and eight championship almost as much

1106
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 3: as Doc Rivers has.

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00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, in terms.

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00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 3: Of of for what they've done in the moves they've made,

1109
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 3: and by the way, they've made great moves to the

1110
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 3: point where we're like, why is anybody doing a deal

1111
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 3: with Danny Ainge? Like that was a thing in the NBA,

1112
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: but you weren't getting rings and titles with them.

1113
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 6: Can you guys imagine what the radio and TV would

1114
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 6: look like and sound like if the Los Angeles Lakers

1115
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 6: with Lebron James and Anthony Davis had lost to the

1116
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 6: eight seed. Ever, like the Boston Celtics have recently, Like

1117
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 6: losing to that Miami Heat team is geez.

1118
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, yeah, and I get that.

1119
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: And there with you know, Celtics fans, O Connor will

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00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: be like, well we are you know, we're not bad

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00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: enough to be a seventh seed, or you know we're

1122
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: the one seed. That's why we can lose to an

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00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 3: eight seed. But it's even at the lowest of low's.

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00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: I still think that the Lakers are a conversation. When

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00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 3: the Celtics are at the lowest of lows, they disappear.

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00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 3: Here Now, Manzi Milonios, who was side by side again

1127
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 3: Steve Hartman, has declined an invitation to join us because

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00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 3: apparently it took over part of your show yesterday. You

1129
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 3: sided with me on this Is this what happened?

1130
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 2: Mancy?

1131
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 13: I confused on the first part, but yes, I can

1132
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 13: confirm the second part that I sided with you.

1133
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: Steve Hartman is do you know that I don't know

1134
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 2: if that mic has ever been turned on? It's hot.

1135
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 14: You can hear me on your mic.

1136
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 2: We knew we'd get him in, but Manzi has the floor.

1137
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: Did you do you think that the Lakers are the

1138
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: biggest brand and that the Celtics have fallen off?

1139
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: That's my argument.

1140
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 13: I didn't even think it was anything really to discuss until.

1141
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: That man brought her. She's new school, that's yeah, Twitter, And.

1142
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 13: I think also Steve kind of like was taking it

1143
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 13: a little differently than the way you were trying to

1144
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 13: explain it, And I was like, I don't. I think

1145
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 13: Dana is saying, like, in big picture, it's the brand,

1146
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 13: like the Lakers name is still thriving, it's still great

1147
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 13: despite the not great success they've had in recent years.

1148
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 2: Steve Hartman, you will be able to tell Steve's got

1149
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: something up his sleeping.

1150
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: Something that is exactly he's looking for. That is exactly,

1151
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 3: that is exactly. The point that was that was made.

1152
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 3: Was the point that the point that Manci was making

1153
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 3: Steve that you didn't hear because we were in a

1154
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 3: different studio, was that I was talking about the brand. Uh,

1155
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 3: maybe not the greatness, but the actual brand. Just like

1156
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys are the top brand of the National

1157
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 3: Football League, that the Los Angeles Lakers are the top

1158
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 3: brand in the NBA.

1159
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 14: All Right, They're a brand because of Lebron James.

1160
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 9: It's like people saying, you know, it was I was

1161
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 9: at that fever game. Like in LA recently, there are

1162
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 9: a lot of fever fans here. There are no fever

1163
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 9: fans or Caitlin Clark fans are no fever fans, the

1164
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 9: Lakers without Lebron's say yeah, have no relevance. It's a

1165
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 9: franchise over the last eleven years that has missed the

1166
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 9: playoffs completely seven times, two first round exits, a blowout

1167
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 9: four games sweep in a Western Conference finals, and an

1168
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 9: NBA championship in a bubble that no one saw look

1169
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 9: at the ratings, is right in the middle of the

1170
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 9: NDVFL season. So they But I mean, we say this

1171
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 9: about the Dallas Cowboys, a team that hasn't been to

1172
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 9: a conference championship game since the mid nineties, right, and

1173
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 9: still they're in the conversation. They're in the conversation because

1174
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 9: of Jerry Jones. The Lakers are always in the conversation

1175
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 9: because of Jerry Bust. The Celtics were in the conversation

1176
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 9: because of Red Auerbach, the Yankees in the conversation because

1177
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 9: of George Steinbrenner. And so when those icons are gone,

1178
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 9: you're no longer relevant. The reason we still talk about

1179
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 9: the Cowboys is Jerry Jones is the reason that we

1180
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 9: talk about it.

1181
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 2: Dallas Yankees, they're no longer relevant.

1182
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 14: How are they relevant? Arson Judge? They haven't won a

1183
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 14: World Series since oh nine? No, they don't have the

1184
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 14: same buzz. There's no buzz.

1185
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 3: There's no buzz about baseball, like there's there's no buzz

1186
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 3: about baseball.

1187
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 14: I know there's buzz about Shohey Otani.

1188
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: Oh that's buzz about Judge this year too, though in

1189
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: that in.

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00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 9: That case, the bottom line is is that for the

1191
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 9: for the Lakers in the post Jerry buss era has

1192
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 9: been a catastrophe by any measurement, especially if you're a

1193
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 9: Lakers fan. They had only missed the playoffs five times

1194
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 9: ever until he died, and now they missed the playoffs

1195
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 9: seven times.

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00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: Since I'm not coming in here improving my point.

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00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 3: But that's why we're still talking about the Lakers like that,

1198
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 3: we still talk about them. Nobody knows who Wick Grousbeck

1199
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 3: is outside of New England.

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00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: Nobody has any idea. Look, they don't.

1201
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 9: I am a lifelong Laker fan and Celtic cater. This

1202
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 9: goes back to the nineteen sixty nine NBA Finals when

1203
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 9: I was in fifth grade and I couldn't believe the

1204
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 9: Lakers lost that series. With wil Chamberlain and Bill Russell's

1205
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 9: final season, but the idea that the Lakers are more

1206
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 9: significant than the Boston Celtics in the moment.

1207
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: That's why I'm with you. I'm with you on that one.

1208
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 14: How how are they more significant?

1209
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 9: Only the only argument is, well, they have Lebron James

1210
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 9: and we got Rich Paul orchestrating the obvious signing of

1211
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 9: Browny James.

1212
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: This is this is garbage.

1213
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it's on star power, just like Hollywood.

1214
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 14: Is I like that? Like this?

1215
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 9: The Chiefs are relevant because they're winning championships. That's kind

1216
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 9: of relevance I'm looking for.

1217
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 3: I mean Patrick Mahomes, Yeah, he's star player as well.

1218
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 9: So right, and you think anyone would care what Harrison

1219
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 9: Bucker is saying if he wasn't the Chiefs kicker, if

1220
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 9: he had been the Jacksonville kicker, would that have gotten

1221
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 9: any mileage at all?

1222
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: Of course not so.

1223
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 9: When you win championships, when you become a dominant force,

1224
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 9: you are in the conversation. Right now, the number one

1225
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 9: brand in the NBA is the Golden State Warriors.

1226
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 14: I had to look this up yesterday.

1227
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 9: And yes, the Lakers were number two, But in my

1228
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 9: mind they have no significance unless they're actual true contenders

1229
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 9: to win a chance.

1230
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 3: On that Bleacher Report article, how many slideshows did you

1231
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 3: have to get to when you finally got to the Celtics, because.

1232
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: It was like click next, next, next, next Again.

1233
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 9: I'm not arguing that the Celtics have no significance.

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00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 14: I'm arguing with your point, Dan, that.

1235
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 9: Somehow the Lakers like still control the narrative in the

1236
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 9: NBA because.

1237
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 2: We don't talking about who they're going to hire.

1238
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 14: I'm not talking about him until.

1239
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 8: Today.

1240
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: They didn't turn out my mind fight one times.

1241
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 9: And they are like, all right, and they hired JJ Reddick.

1242
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 9: Is that because he's committed to call the NBA finals?

1243
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 9: Is that what they're holding off on so he can

1244
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 9: do the rest of the finals.

1245
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, good talks Steve in today.

1246
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 2: Is he going to be joining us as well?

1247
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 9: Richie's always just keep this distance, all right, Steve came

1248
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 9: in hot.

1249
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: You asked for it too, So see did I did?

1250
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: I thought it was I thought it was only fair.

1251
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 2: I saw a tweet about it yesterday night. I had

1252
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: no idea on that it became such a.

1253
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 14: We have a long history and I think you crossed

1254
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 14: the line this time.

1255
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 8: Ah.

1256
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 3: There he is Steve Hartman, a host of The UH

1257
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 3: Steve Hartman and Manzi Blaios shows Saturdays on Fox Sports

1258
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 3: Radio and host of the Steve.

1259
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: Hartman and Rich Ornberger Show Sundays here on Fox. And

1260
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: you got what you ask for that one they did

1261
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 2: I did.

1262
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 3: Thank you very much everyone participating these Carry Roads Final

1263
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 3: to make Carrie twenty five Roads. You can find me

1264
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 3: at Dan Bayer on Fox. All right, I'm no longer

1265
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 3: in the hot seat. Carry Rhodes will be in the

1266
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 3: hot seat. You know what's next, easy as one, two

1267
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 3: three four Here on Fox Sports. Fox Sports Sunday. He's

1268
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 3: Carry Rhoads. I'm Dan Biri, are live from the Tirec

1269
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 3: dot Com studios.

1270
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: This is what we're gonna do.

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01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 3: We're gonna get an update from Nazi and then we're

1272
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 3: gonna play easy as one, two three four. It is

1273
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 3: a busy Sunday. Little tennis, little baseball, a lot of golf,

1274
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 3: a little hockey going on, no hoops. With no hoops.

1275
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 3: Ye had a little bit of hockey Western Conference Finals tonight,

1276
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 3: Game six. We could have our we could have our

1277
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 3: Stanley Cup Final finally settled. One team is waiting. It's

1278
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 3: the Florida Panthers and now it's down to the stars

1279
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 3: and Oilers, Edmonton can close it out with a win tonight.

1280
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 3: Let's jump throw it over to jump over to the newsroom,

1281
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 3: throw it over to the news desk with mants and Blanios.

1282
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: But by the way, we'll also be a lifeline to

1283
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: you and easy as one, two, three, four.

1284
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 13: I mean you already know I.

1285
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: Don't do it care and go elsewhere.

1286
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 13: Yes, Dan, you are right. These stars are going to

1287
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 13: have to keep their season alive tonight for Game six

1288
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 13: of the West Final in the NHL. As Edmonton leads

1289
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 13: a series three to two, the winner is going to

1290
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 13: face the Florida Panthers in the Stanley Cup Final. We

1291
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 13: got a full slate of baseball games, and one is

1292
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 13: already underway. Twins at Astros. They've already split the three

1293
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 13: game series and the Twins already off to a hot start.

1294
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 13: Trevor lar Nick with the leadoff homer, So the Twins

1295
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 13: up one zero against the Astros. But they really just

1296
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 13: got going in this one. And we have a full

1297
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Speaker 13: slate of baseball. Let's move on to the French Open.

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01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 13: World number two Carlos Alkraz. He won his fourth round

1299
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 13: match in straight sets. He becomes the youngest player to

1300
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 13: reach the quarterfinal stage at Roland Garos in three consecutive

1301
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 13: years since Novak Djokovic did. Back in two thousand and six,

1302
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 13: Coco Golf also onto the quarterfinals. After her fourth round

1303
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 13: match she wanted in straight sets, she finished at three

1304
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 13: a m.

1305
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 2: And she said that that.

1306
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 13: Is not healthy. After so the night matches start like

1307
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 13: at eight o'clock local time, but there was some sort

1308
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 13: of weather delay and it pushed everything back.

1309
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 2: She ended at three am.

1310
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 13: Novak Djokovic ended at three oh seven local time, and

1311
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 13: they're like, we have to figure out something better. And

1312
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 13: I yeah, imagine ending at three am a competitive match.

1313
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: Get out of here. I know, it's crazy.

1314
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 3: I turned it on when Djokovic was play and I

1315
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 3: went to the tennis channel and they were playing in

1316
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 3: the doll match and I'm.

1317
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 2: Like, well, this isn't it. So it wasn't about like

1318
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: Peacock or something like that. But yeah, but I'm.

1319
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 13: With her on that one for sure. Let's move on

1320
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 13: to the WNBA where the leagues that have to review

1321
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 13: that they are going to upgrade that foul that Kennedy

1322
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 13: Carter from Chicago committed away from the ball on Indiana's Kitlink.

1323
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 13: Clark to a flag girl one penalty one. She's not

1324
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 13: going to be fine, but the League is going to

1325
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 13: find Angel Reese one thousand dollars for failing for failing

1326
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 13: to make herself available.

1327
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 2: To the media.

1328
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 13: They're also going to find Chicago the organization itself five

1329
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 13: thousand dollars for failing to comply with league media policies.

1330
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 13: We do have some golf, the RBC Canadian Open, but

1331
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 13: the leaders are not teen off just yet. Maybe in

1332
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 13: about an hour or so. Robert McIntyre in the lead,

1333
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 13: fourteen hunder par overall, Ben Griffin four shots back, tied

1334
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 13: along with Mackenzie Hughes and Ryan Fox. Back to you.

1335
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 2: A quick story that's taking a little buzz on social media.

1336
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 2: Fluff Cowen, who was Jim Furick's long time.

1337
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 3: Time caddy Tiger was Tiger Woods's caddy when Tiger won

1338
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 3: the ninety seven Masters, bluffs up there. An agent fell

1339
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 3: on the third hole today and was unable to continue

1340
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 3: caddying for ct PAN. So they've just grabbed a guy

1341
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 3: from the crowd.

1342
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: Yes, so there's a video. There's They took a spectator who.

1343
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 3: I'm sure probably said I have some caddying experience or something.

1344
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 3: But so yeah, so this spectator is gonna be caddying

1345
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 3: for ct Pan, who I played with at the Farmer's

1346
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 3: Insurance Pro am a few years back. The gott lead

1347
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 3: myself and Rodney Harrison where with ct Pan as our

1348
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 3: pro and we ended up doing pretty well. But yeah,

1349
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 3: this fan ended up having to take over. That's right,

1350
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 3: you're an excellent golfer.

1351
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 4: I've heard it for three straight weeks now about Dan's golf.

1352
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 3: We're gonna make this the distal hitting streak. We're just

1353
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 3: gonna pop up every single time. All right, let's get

1354
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 3: to the game. Monte Milanio's Bo Benson and Chris Profeeder

1355
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 3: all lifelines for Carrie Rhodes as he tries to strike

1356
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: a perfect score of ten and easy as one, two, three, four,

1357
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 3: I give carry a topic. He doesn't have to give

1358
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 3: me all of the correct answers, just some. The perfect

1359
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 3: score is ten and the over under today is seven

1360
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 3: and a half, seven.

1361
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 2: And a half.

1362
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, as MASSI laughs already, I'm so nervous.

1363
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 3: Three basketball, one NFL. That's what we've got, all right.

1364
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 3: Name one of two expansion teams that came after the

1365
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks joined the league in nineteen eighty. So the

1366
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks joined the NBA in nineteen eighty Who were

1367
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 3: the next two teams to join the league immediately after that?

1368
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 4: Oh?

1369
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 2: Immediately?

1370
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 3: Yes, name one of two teams that joined that were

1371
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 3: the next expansion teams. And I'll even give you the year.

1372
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 3: The year was nineteen eighty eight. So what two teams

1373
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 3: joined the NBA in nineteen eighty eight? Ooh, you hat

1374
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 3: a lifeline do you have?

1375
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I know there are no expansion teams. I

1376
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: know some of those teams.

1377
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to think of eighty eight, um, because

1378
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 4: I know the Bob Katz and the Pelicans. That's later sometimes,

1379
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 4: So I'm trying to figure out that time front. I

1380
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 4: think I'll go I'll go with Bow on this on

1381
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 4: the on the NBA stuff.

1382
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 2: Let's see what.

1383
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 6: Uh, Vancouver Grizzlies.

1384
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,959
Speaker 2: Okay in Toronto later?

1385
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 9: Right?

1386
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1387
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 6: I was in middle or in elementary school, and everybody's

1388
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 6: wearing Raptors stuff. And I was in elementary school in

1389
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 6: the nineties, So I don't think that's the case. I

1390
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:25,959
Speaker 6: would venture I guess maybe the Timberwolves, what about the.

1391
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: What about the the Bucks as well? Because they know

1392
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: they moved from the Bugs.

1393
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 6: Kareem, Yeah, yeah, I would Vancouver's got to be one

1394
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 6: of them. That's got to be. Maybe maybe the Timberwolves

1395
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 6: as an expansion team.

1396
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure what Manzi's shaking her head.

1397
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 4: She has this this squint that says, no, no, I

1398
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 4: don't know that.

1399
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: I don't think that's it.

1400
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 3: I I know Steve Hartman though, I know that for sure, Steve.

1401
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: I think actually Steve is stumped here.

1402
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 3: He said that eighty eight joined the NBA in nineteen

1403
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 3: eighty eight.

1404
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: Man, Dan, do you want to just give me a guess?

1405
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, just go, I mean, I'll take I mean Vancouver

1406
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 4: and okay, Vancouver.

1407
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 2: Is that gonna be your final answer? Sure? All right?

1408
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 2: Nobody knows is it Vancouver? It is not? That was

1409
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 2: mid nineties, Yeah, eleven, Toronto came in the league.

1410
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 3: The two Canadian teams, Yeah, Charlotte Hornets, well, I said,

1411
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 3: the Bobcats don't Yeah, Charlotte yep.

1412
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 2: And the Miami Heat well, my favorite Charlotte. I would

1413
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 2: have had one.

1414
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: Man actually shocked. Miami was that late?

1415
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 4: Well?

1416
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 3: What was what was unique was in nineteen eighty nine

1417
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 3: because they had four teams expand, but they did two

1418
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 3: and one year and two and the other in the

1419
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 3: next one where the Timberwolves and Magic in nineteen eighty nine,

1420
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 3: So that's where Bo was.

1421
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: It was close to it.

1422
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 3: So that's probably your toughest one. So again it's just

1423
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 3: the first question, but that doesn't mean it's the easiest. All right,

1424
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 3: Name two of three former Celtics players to have their

1425
01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 3: single digit uniform number retired by the team outside of

1426
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 3: founder Walter Brown. Single digit? So who wore single digits

1427
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 3: for the Boston Celtics that had their number retired by

1428
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 3: the team. And again, I'm not here to trick you guys.

1429
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 3: I'm not here to trick you guys. Single digit, Yes,

1430
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 3: So Larry Bird thirty three work.

1431
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 2: In this scenario.

1432
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 3: Single digit former Celtics players outside of founder Walter Brown.

1433
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna go with Chris. I'm gonna go with

1434
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 2: Chris on this one.

1435
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 7: I can give you one very easy thanks to my

1436
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 7: grandfather was a Celtics fan, Bill Russell.

1437
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: Number six.

1438
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 4: Yep, that's one, okay, So Bill Russell, what was what

1439
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 4: was Paris's number?

1440
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 2: Was it was he double digit? What was he single?

1441
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 2: I can't remember the number?

1442
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: Jet I can't write Paris. Paris just kind of goes

1443
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: right over my head.

1444
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 2: Is Steve Hartman there yelling in the background? Is he

1445
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 2: give me one read that? There's a mic right behind you? Yeah?

1446
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: Is he part of my lifeline?

1447
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

1448
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 3: He keeps saying number three at me. Yes, let's see,

1449
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 3: all right, Steve Hartman.

1450
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 2: Number three.

1451
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: He's just sitting down and he just gave me number.

1452
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 3: Three and number three, all right, show me number six,

1453
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 3: Bill Russell, Yes, and show me number three. Dennis Johnson

1454
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:29,560
Speaker 3: there it is, Yes, I know Dennis. And again, in

1455
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 3: not trying to fool you guys, Kevin Garnett is just

1456
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 3: number five.

1457
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: Doesn't realist I didn't realize KG had his number.

1458
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's pretty amazing.

1459
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 6: But yes, we should set it up where if Carrie

1460
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 6: learns how to read lips, Steve Hartman can be a

1461
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 6: life I mean.

1462
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,759
Speaker 3: Through a dark glass to like and there's a little

1463
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 3: art reflecting. Yeah, there's a like I can't even see

1464
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 3: Chris his face. I'm looking right at him, but I

1465
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 3: can't see him.

1466
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: The light of God here starting midment in the back,

1467
01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is that? All right? Name three or four? Teams?

1468
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: Jason Kidd played for during his NBA three or four.

1469
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 4: We got the Mavericks, We got the nets, and we

1470
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 4: have the did he play with us, Sons or nats?

1471
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 4: Played with the Suns? We got the two, We got

1472
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:15,799
Speaker 4: Mavericks nets.

1473
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: Steve is up.

1474
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 2: Okay, that's that final answer, Sons, final answer. Yeah.

1475
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 3: Show me the Mavericks obviously drafted by the Mavericks and

1476
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 3: then return and won a title with them. Show me

1477
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 3: the Phoenix Suns traded by the Mavericks to the Phoenix Suns.

1478
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 2: And show me the nets then New Jersey Nets where

1479
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 2: he went to two straight NBA finals. Yes, yes, as

1480
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 2: their point guard in the early arts. I knew that one.

1481
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 2: That was a good one. That was all right, you

1482
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:46,799
Speaker 2: are back on track.

1483
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 3: I was rolling through five points now and you get

1484
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 3: three of these, you've hit the.

1485
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: Over under, come on, get all four of them. You

1486
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 2: have a very respectable score of nine. All right, name

1487
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: four of five NFL teams that have appeared on any

1488
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 2: version of HBO's Hard Knocks on multiple occasions.

1489
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: Multiple occasions, multiple occasions.

1490
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 2: Why you got multiple?

1491
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 1: That's that's I assume you mean any version of Hard Knocks.

1492
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 3: That's when I yeap when I said any version of

1493
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 3: hard Knocks on multiple occasions.

1494
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 4: This is what I do not know. I'm gonna go

1495
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 4: with MANSA. You got you got something, you got multiple versions.

1496
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 13: Multiple versions. I feel like we can probably process of elimination.

1497
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: Here, like the big I'm gonna guess.

1498
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 13: The Cowboys multiple Yeah, like you know what I'm saying, Like, yes,

1499
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 13: that one.

1500
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 2: We'll take that one. Okay, the Jets, I'll take the Jets.

1501
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 14: Yes, yeah, the Jets is a good one.

1502
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 9: Uh.

1503
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 13: Just the Cardinals were recent? But were they a part

1504
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 13: of it before?

1505
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 4: No?

1506
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 13: Okay, so eliminated that one. What about the Bears they're

1507
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 13: coming on?

1508
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: No, okay, the Rams.

1509
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 4: We'll go Rams. So we'll go Rams and Rams. Okay,

1510
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 4: Cowboys Cowboys? Yeah, yeah, yeah, just one more, one more, multiple.

1511
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: Times, multiple times.

1512
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 4: I know the Dolphins won't last. Were they multiple Chris Perfett, somebody.

1513
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 7: I I want to I don't think it's the Giants.

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01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 2: I don't think we have to think.

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01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 6: Dan is always tricky with the way he words multiple

1516
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 6: versions of hard Knocks matters, I believe. So I'm trying

1517
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 6: to think of who did the end season so in

1518
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 6: season this past year was Dolphins. Yes, so it's maybe

1519
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 6: it's like the Dolphins or was that the Colts that

1520
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 6: did the nd season the first time? Colts one of those.

1521
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it was. I don't think it was Dolphins. Colts.

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01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 6: The Rams are for sure one of them.

1523
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 13: What about the Ravens. I just feel like they were

1524
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 13: They've been popular, you know, up and down over a

1525
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 13: long period of time.

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01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 4: They did the old school when when they had the

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01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 4: d to read and right, Yeah, but did they do

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01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 4: one recently?

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01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 6: I don't think so.

1530
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: We're going to Colts might be the answer.

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01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's go, We'll go Colts. Chris is confident

1532
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 2: with the Colts.

1533
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 3: Show Me the Dallas Cowboys three times in fact two

1534
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 3: and two, twenty eight and twenty twenty one, show Me

1535
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,759
Speaker 3: the New York Jets twenty ten, and then last season

1536
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 3: with Aaron Rodgers in twenty twenty three, show Me the

1537
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 3: Rams twenty sixteen, and then in the COVID year they

1538
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 3: did a combo of the Rams and Chargers in twenty twenty.

1539
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 3: You hit the over if you have a score of nine,

1540
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 3: is it the Colts? No, it is, sorry, the Miami Dolphins.

1541
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 2: I said I that too. Remember when Joe Philman had

1542
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 2: to cut o Jo Sinko.

1543
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:43,759
Speaker 1: Oh god, that's right.

1544
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I said that too.

1545
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 3: Mas should have stuck with my gun and then the

1546
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 3: other one, the Cincinnati Bengals.

1547
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty nine and twenty thirty.

1548
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: I have completely forgot about those Bengals hard.

1549
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 3: Most people have forgot about the Bengals entirely until Joe

1550
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:58,719
Speaker 3: Burrow came around.

1551
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: Right, all right, very good, very good. Thank you for

1552
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 2: the tight day.

1553
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 3: Carry Roads gets eight. Hit him up at Carrie twenty

1554
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 3: five Roads. You can find me at dan Byer on Fox.

1555
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 3: It's the unofficial start of summer. We are now past

1556
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 3: Memorial Day. What is on your summer plan list? We

1557
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 3: unveil ours next year on Fox Sports Radio. You who

1558
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 3: bottle rolling on the floorboard these Carry Roads.

1559
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:20,759
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer.

1560
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 3: It's Fox Sports Sunday, and yeah, the unofficial start of summer.

1561
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 3: Once you get past the Memorial Day weekend of the

1562
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 3: more Memorial Day holiday, schools out in a lot of places,

1563
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 3: still some that are gonna have to go over the

1564
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 3: next couple of days. But summer is basically here. And

1565
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 3: I thought, Carrie, let's have some summertime fun. We have

1566
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 3: a great crew here. Chris Burfette bo Benz and Monte

1567
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 3: Milanos help us put this show together. Let's make a

1568
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 3: summer to do list. So we were all tasked with

1569
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 3: coming up with three things that we want to do.

1570
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 3: And here's the only caveat when you do them, when

1571
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 3: you announce these, if you accomplish this this summer, you

1572
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 3: gotta talk about it on the show. So we've got

1573
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 3: like fifteen to do list things for the summer. How

1574
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 3: many can we actually cross off if we each have

1575
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 3: three of them? So if you accomplish one the next

1576
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 3: time we have the show, gotta let us know and

1577
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about it.

1578
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 2: Carry out.

1579
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 3: I give you the floor the three things that you

1580
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 3: want to do in the summer of twenty twenty four.

1581
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 4: The three things that I want to do in the

1582
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 4: summer of twenty twenty four. Man, it's number one. I

1583
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 4: have to get my next single done, all right, So

1584
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 4: I have to get that done, and well, I know

1585
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 4: we'll finish after we get all three. And then number two,

1586
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 4: I want to make sure I get a family trip

1587
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 4: in this summer, the summer we'll talk about. We'll expand

1588
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 4: on that later also. And then the third thing, I

1589
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 4: want to finish my documentary idea that we talked about

1590
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 4: last week.

1591
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: So three big things are very employ to me.

1592
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,440
Speaker 4: And I'll elaborate on which one I want to elaborate

1593
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 4: on after everybody else give their responses.

1594
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 3: So, and it should be noted in there to work

1595
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 3: one fun like he's got to work that he's a

1596
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 3: working guy. So he has one fun thing that he

1597
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 3: wants to do this summer. Family trip. Manzi Bolanos, you

1598
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 3: were tasked with this your three things you want to

1599
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 3: do this summer.

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01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 13: Listen. The fact that you think I could have three

1601
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 13: things to do this summer is super cute. Since I'm

1602
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 13: here literally all day every day. I have one big one. Okay,

1603
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 13: one big one. As you know, I am going to

1604
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 13: run a half marathon in September.

1605
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 2: Actually I didn't know that.

1606
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: I did tell you this.

1607
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 2: I don't play with another man that doesn't listen to.

1608
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 13: So during the pandemic, I used to do these a lot,

1609
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 13: especially at Disneyland, and during the pandemic they were like,

1610
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,919
Speaker 13: we know, we have to cancel the Star Wars Marathon

1611
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 13: half marathon. If you want, you can still subscribe and

1612
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 13: we'll send you the medal. And you don't even have

1613
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 13: to prove that you've done it. So I did it

1614
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 13: and I never ran it. So I'm actually trying to

1615
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 13: on one on my own before the one I'm actually

1616
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 13: joining in September. Alright, So before September, I'm trying to

1617
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 13: do my own half.

1618
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 2: Marathon Maxi's half marathon.

1619
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 14: Before September September, my actual.

1620
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 3: One, gotcha, that's actually a pretty good one. Yeah, that

1621
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 3: would take up three I would do three miles, five miles,

1622
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 3: and eight miles and those would.

1623
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 4: Be my.

1624
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 2: Chris perfect.

1625
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 7: Yeah. So I think the first fun one for me

1626
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:26,919
Speaker 7: is uh. I as much as I've lived in California

1627
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 7: now for about like god's close to seven years, I

1628
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 7: haven't been up to the north.

1629
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: I would love to go to Monterey. I love aquariums.

1630
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 7: I'm wanting to do a road trip to the Monterey Aquariums,

1631
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 7: and I told myself, I want to do that.

1632
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: Is there.

1633
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 2: That's with a Grell spot.

1634
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 7: I think on the work side of things, my podcast

1635
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 7: got put on ice due to complicated reasons. I would

1636
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 7: like to get a new venture going at some point,

1637
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 7: be it YouTube or anything like that Lost Weight on

1638
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 7: my half got It or a YouTube Who knows. The

1639
01:17:55,600 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 7: third thing is can I just say clean just really

1640
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 7: really makes some a really nice meal at some point,

1641
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 7: like really expand my I know this is kind of vague,

1642
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 7: but expand my cooking repertoire. Do five new recipes that

1643
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 7: I have not tried.

1644
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 3: All right, five new recipes absolutely perfect, bo Benson.

1645
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 6: All right. Number one, I want to get some Texas

1646
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 6: barbecue at some point. If anybody has rex, let me know.

1647
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 6: Number two, I want to uh go on a date

1648
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,520
Speaker 6: with my wife without my child.

1649
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: Challenge I will, I.

1650
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 6: Will, I will take an hour without my child next

1651
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 6: to me.

1652
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 2: There you go.

1653
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 6: Number three, I want to go to Vegas.

1654
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 4: Uh.

1655
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 6: Producing the wonderful Countdown to kickoff shows here at Fox

1656
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 6: Sporths Radio has given me the gambling itch.

1657
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 3: Right.

1658
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 6: I have some tickets to put in and a bonus

1659
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 6: one just to make sure that we actually get one

1660
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 6: cross off the list. I want to go see my

1661
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 6: cousin play the No Values Music Festival next week with

1662
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 6: his band The Untouchables. So I will be doing that

1663
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 6: so we can cross I went off.

1664
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 2: So yes it is. There you go.

1665
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 3: All right, We're all kind of connected here. I've never

1666
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 3: been to the Getty in southern California. I could go, No,

1667
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 3: I literally could go right now and be there and

1668
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 3: have this off the list by eleven thirty local time

1669
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 3: if I wanted to. But I've been here nineteen years.

1670
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 3: I've never been to the Getty. That's one. I told

1671
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 3: this one to my wife. She said, no way. I said,

1672
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 3: go to an A's game in Oakland. So before the

1673
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 3: A's movie, it's one.

1674
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 2: I want to go to a game in Oakland.

1675
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 1: Last Dive. We can all get Last Dive Bar wristbands.

1676
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 2: Yet hopefully it's not sold out. Let's just hope. Keep

1677
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 2: that was a joke.

1678
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 3: I can't play rim shots, and I've never smoked a brisket.

1679
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, so Chris did the culinary thing. I need

1680
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 3: to smoke a briskete. I got, you know, on the old.

1681
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: Green Air smoke brisket either. That could be something we

1682
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 1: do together the.

1683
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 2: Day long thing. We'll smoke our own brisket separately. Chris. Yeah,

1684
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,839
Speaker 2: I'll keep my hands on my meat. You do yours

1685
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 2: your way, you smoke your own brisket.

1686
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 3: That was great, So again we're gonna keep our check marks, Harry.

1687
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 2: This was fun. It was always fun.

1688
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 3: We'll be back talking Game one the next time we're

1689
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 3: talking to here on Fox Sports Sunday