WEBVTT - Where Do the World's Best Band Names Come From?

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what, Mango, what's that? Will? So I know we're

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<v Speaker 1>both pretty good at celebrating each other's accomplishments. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do have to admit there's one thing you have on

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<v Speaker 1>your resume that I've honestly always been a little jealous of.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a band named after you, Mango.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a bit of a stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a stretch at all, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So our listeners will know. When we were in college,

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<v Speaker 1>Mango was playing the keyboards and a band that a

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<v Speaker 1>few of our closest friends had started. Well, this also

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<v Speaker 1>happened to be around the time we were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>start Mental Floss, and Mango realized there just weren't enough

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<v Speaker 1>hours in the day. So, fortunately for all future fans

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<v Speaker 1>of Mental Floss and even part time genius, Mango decided

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<v Speaker 1>to keep working on our new venture, and he dropped

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<v Speaker 1>out of the band. Now, this was also around the

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<v Speaker 1>time that the band was just starting to get a

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<v Speaker 1>few more gigs, and I mean some of their shows

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<v Speaker 1>were getting I don't know, what would you say, Mango,

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<v Speaker 1>like tens of people in the audience.

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<v Speaker 2>It was at least ten.

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<v Speaker 1>It was impressive, but they needed to settle on a name,

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<v Speaker 1>so they decided to simultaneously honor and throw a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a friendly jab at Mango by calling the

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<v Speaker 1>group Minus Mango.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I'm not sure honor is the right term for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, either way, the band ran with it, and they

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<v Speaker 1>had a short but fun run. And I've even heard

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<v Speaker 1>the band inspired some songs like I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>meatloafs I would do anything for love and shares believe

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, there's only one problem with that theory, Will,

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<v Speaker 3>And actually there's several problems with that, the main one

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<v Speaker 3>being that it's not true, but the other being that

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<v Speaker 3>both those songs came out well before the band formed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just think that's what makes it so impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is really remarkable. But anyway, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>here to talk about Minus Mango today. We're here to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the origins of some other band names and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even create a little hall of fame of great

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<v Speaker 1>and terrible band names. So let's get started, Hey, their

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<v Speaker 1>podcast listeners, welcome to Part Time Genius. I'm Will Pearson,

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<v Speaker 1>and as always I'm joined by my good friend Mangeshot

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<v Speaker 1>Ticket and on the other side of that Soundproof Glass

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<v Speaker 1>rocking a T shirt for his favorite mashup cover band, Mango.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you'd heard of this one before.

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<v Speaker 1>I had not. It's called Beatallica. Anyway, that's our friend

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<v Speaker 1>and producer Tristan and McNeil, and you know, Beatles songs

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<v Speaker 1>covered in the style of Metallica. It's not something you'd

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<v Speaker 1>expect to work, but Tristan played me a few tracks

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<v Speaker 1>earlier and I've honestly got to say I really kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dug it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, the way they blended Blackbird with Fade

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<v Speaker 3>to Black is pretty masterful. That My favorite probably is

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<v Speaker 3>still All you Need is Blood.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it really says it all, don't you say.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, as funny or clever as cover band names

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<v Speaker 1>and song titles can be, the stories behind them are

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<v Speaker 1>usually not all that interesting. I mean, by definition, they're

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<v Speaker 1>pulled from or at least made in reference to existing

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<v Speaker 1>works by other artists, and all the origin stories for

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<v Speaker 1>the names of original bands tend to be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more interesting. Even that's not a sure thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>take the Beatles, for example. They've definitely earned their place

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<v Speaker 1>in the rock and Roll Hall of fame, But in

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<v Speaker 1>the band name hall of fame, I really don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they belong there. I mean, they took the name of

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<v Speaker 1>an insect and kind of turned it into this obvious

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<v Speaker 1>pun on musical beats, and so it doesn't tell you

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<v Speaker 1>anything about the group or the kind of music they play,

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<v Speaker 1>and honestly, worst of all, there's no hidden meaning or

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<v Speaker 1>interesting story behind it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>So for today's show, we're gonna set aside the artist

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<v Speaker 3>and their work and really focus instead on what they

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<v Speaker 3>chose to call themselves. Even bad band names are on

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<v Speaker 3>the table, just as long as the stories behind them

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<v Speaker 3>are strange or interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I thought we could do this like we

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<v Speaker 1>did a while back in that episode where we tried

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<v Speaker 1>to assemble our own version of Mount Rushmore. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course it was so much fun to hear from all

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<v Speaker 1>the listeners with ideas of what other presidents we should

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<v Speaker 1>include on Mount Rushmore and why. So we're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>doing the same thing here. We'll each pitch some of

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<v Speaker 1>the best band name origins that we had, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>come across while researching and kind of gradually fill out

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<v Speaker 1>our Hall of Fame. And you know, the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>we noticed while preparing for this episode is how many

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<v Speaker 1>band names fall into similar categories, whether that's band's name

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<v Speaker 1>for literary works or band's name for TV shows. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll try to limit our picks to one per category

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<v Speaker 1>so that we end up with a pretty good mix

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<v Speaker 1>of origins. So, all right, Mango, I'm gonna leave it

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<v Speaker 1>up to you. Where do you think we should start?

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<v Speaker 3>So I was thinking about this, and I think we

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<v Speaker 3>should start with band names inspired by history, because those were,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, some of the most interesting to me and

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<v Speaker 3>also some of the hardest to choose from. So a

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<v Speaker 3>few are pretty well known at this point. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>you think about like Franz Ferdinand, which takes its name

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<v Speaker 3>from the archduke whose assassination led to World War One,

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<v Speaker 3>Or there were lots of other ones I knew that

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<v Speaker 3>were taken from history, Like did you know that U

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<v Speaker 3>two was actually named after a spy plane currently You

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<v Speaker 3>two's were used to monitor the Soviets in the nineteen fifties.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've heard of this term before, but actually didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that, but I guess it makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>though a lot of You two songs contain, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>references to political and historical events. And actually I was

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<v Speaker 1>just thinking about one the other days. Isn't Sunday Bloody

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday about the gorilla warfare in Northern Ireland?

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<v Speaker 2>It is?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually have you watched that Alan Partridge episode where Steve

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<v Speaker 3>Coogan's like a total buffoon and he's talking about this

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<v Speaker 3>inspiration for the song and he's like, it's just so relatable,

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<v Speaker 3>like when you're in line at Tesco's and you just

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<v Speaker 3>think Sunday Bloody Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that actually is the origin. I'm not sure. That's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>But what's funny to me though, is that the band

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<v Speaker 3>really didn't choose you two to make any sort of

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<v Speaker 3>political statement, Like they went with it because it sounded

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<v Speaker 3>ambiguous and also I guess inclusive, like you know the

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<v Speaker 3>phrase you two. And also it was just more interesting

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<v Speaker 3>than their earlier names, like they started out as Feedback

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen seventy six before switching to the Hype and

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<v Speaker 3>then U two within the span.

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<v Speaker 1>Of two years. Yeah, it's funny because I found another

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<v Speaker 1>band that couldn't seem to settle on a name until

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<v Speaker 1>they stumbled upon an historical one. So you remember Jethro Toll, right,

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<v Speaker 1>m hm well, they had a hit with that song

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<v Speaker 1>Aqualong in the early seventies, and apparently Jethro Toll was

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<v Speaker 1>a real person, just not a member of the band.

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<v Speaker 1>He was actually this English agricultural pioneer who played this

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<v Speaker 1>pretty pivotal role in bringing about the British agricultural revolution

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<v Speaker 1>in the early eighteenth century. And so his biggest claim

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<v Speaker 1>to fame was the invention of a horse drawn seed

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<v Speaker 1>drill to easily sew seeds in orderly rows, which really

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<v Speaker 1>laid the groundwork for modern agriculture.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just so rock and roll, you said. The band

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<v Speaker 3>just happened upon that name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So, in the band's early days, they had this

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<v Speaker 1>habit of making up a new name for every single

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<v Speaker 1>gig because their performances were so spotty and most places

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<v Speaker 1>didn't book them a second time. So after about seriously

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<v Speaker 1>like four something name changes, the group finally hit on

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<v Speaker 1>this unexpected winner with their homage to an eighteenth century agronomist.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's the way it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but agricultural roots aside. My favorite band name with

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<v Speaker 1>an historical origin probably has to be Foo Fighters.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is strange, right, because I consider myself something

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<v Speaker 3>of a history buff. I actually won mister Zippy's History

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<v Speaker 3>Award in tenth grade. But I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 3>part of history that could possibly come from, like where

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<v Speaker 3>the Foo Fighters, Genghis Khans, elite bodyguards or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even close. It actually comes from the tail end

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<v Speaker 1>of World War Two, and this is when the Allied

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<v Speaker 1>pilots began reporting some sightings of these mysterious German aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>and they really couldn't be identified, and so the pilots

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<v Speaker 1>took to calling these UFOs foo Fighters. And when frontman

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Grohl came across the nickname he was reading a

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<v Speaker 1>book about UFOs, he actually just decided it was perfect

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<v Speaker 1>for his new band.

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<v Speaker 3>So did he ever elaborate on what made it sound

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<v Speaker 3>so perfect to him?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, girl actually cour of the entire first Food Fighters

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<v Speaker 1>album all by himself, but he kind of wanted everybody

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<v Speaker 1>to think it was the work of a proper group,

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<v Speaker 1>and for whatever reason, he thought a World War two

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<v Speaker 1>term for UFOs would lead people to assume there was

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<v Speaker 1>more than just one man behind this music.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty funny reasoning.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I read this history article of Nirvana

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<v Speaker 3>where the guys would always apparently remind Dave Grohl that

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't in the first iteration of the band. So,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's kind of like telling Ringo he wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>an original Beatle, just over and over, and I feel

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<v Speaker 3>awful for him, But you know why, food fighters like

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<v Speaker 3>he could have.

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<v Speaker 2>Chosen any word that was a plural noun.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, girl apparently came to a similar conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>because later he said in an interview, he said, had

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<v Speaker 1>I actually considered this to be a career, I probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have called it something else because it's the stupidest

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<v Speaker 1>effing band name in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>So I almost kind of want to add it to

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<v Speaker 3>our list just for that reason. But really, if we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to narrow it down to a single band per category,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we have.

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<v Speaker 2>To give this to the Decembrius.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I know their songs tend to be very

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<v Speaker 1>literary and sometimes recount or maybe pull from historical events.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do remember a little bit about the Decembers

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<v Speaker 1>from a Russian history class I took years and years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think I need a little bit of a refresher.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So the historical Decembris, whose spelling actually is different

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<v Speaker 3>from the month in the band because it doesn't actually

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<v Speaker 3>have a third e in it. They were this group

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<v Speaker 3>of Russian revolutionaries who led almost a failed uprising in

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<v Speaker 3>the December of eighteen twenty five, and so the group

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<v Speaker 3>was composed mostly of these young Russian officers and also

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<v Speaker 3>members of the upper classes who they wanted to reform

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<v Speaker 3>the autocratic government into more of a liberal system. And

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<v Speaker 3>they actually took advantage of the chaos surrounding the death

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<v Speaker 3>of one tzar and the sension of another to stage rebellion.

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<v Speaker 3>But because it had been so poorly organized, their revolution

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<v Speaker 3>was quickly put to an end, and their hope of

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<v Speaker 3>overturning an oppressive system has really only lived on. With

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<v Speaker 3>martyred December is now serving almost as a source of

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<v Speaker 3>inspiration for new generations of Russian rebels.

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<v Speaker 1>So is that actually where the band name comes from.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's the thing it does, and it doesn't. So,

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<v Speaker 3>according to the band's frontman, Colin Molloy, the name's partly

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<v Speaker 3>derived from the Russian freedom fighters and partly from the

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<v Speaker 3>month of December itself.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it feels like you might be cheating a

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<v Speaker 1>little on this one, Mango. It's only a half reference

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<v Speaker 1>to history, So why do you feel like it deserves

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<v Speaker 1>a spot on our list because.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the only historical band name we've mentioned where

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<v Speaker 3>the reference wasn't chosen at random. So with the December

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<v Speaker 3>is there's actually this real thematic connection between the band's

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<v Speaker 3>name and its music. And as Colin molloy puts it, quote,

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<v Speaker 3>I like to think that the drama behind the month

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<v Speaker 3>of December, there's a group of people who that is

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<v Speaker 3>their month and they're sort of stuck in this month,

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that sort of speaks to the songs

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<v Speaker 3>and the characters and the songs sort of marginalized, sort

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<v Speaker 3>of on the outskirts, all living in the coldest month.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that is pretty interesting, But actually, didn't you say

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<v Speaker 1>the real Decembers were from the nobility. It kind of

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound like they were marginalized people living on the

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<v Speaker 1>outskirts as he was describing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they were definitely a minority in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>openly opposing the system that ruled them. And once their

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<v Speaker 2>rebellion was sort of stifled, the Decembrists became well and

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<v Speaker 2>truly marginalized. Most of the surviving members were sent off

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<v Speaker 2>to remote work camps in Siberia, where their descendants still

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<v Speaker 2>eke out a living even though they brought education and

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<v Speaker 2>culture with them to that land.

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<v Speaker 1>Well all right, well it's not the cheeriest historical connection,

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<v Speaker 1>but but you're right, it certainly seems like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the deepest. And because of that, I agree, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give it to you. The Decembrists deserved the first spot

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<v Speaker 1>in our band name Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>Ding ding Dings, So they probably don't know it, but

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<v Speaker 3>that's a huge honor. And since it took us a

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<v Speaker 3>while to decide on that first entry, I actually have

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<v Speaker 3>a category that we can probably knock out pretty fast,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's best band named acronym that isn't actually an acronym.

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<v Speaker 3>And remember ARIM is disqualified from this one because it

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<v Speaker 3>really is an acronym and it stands for rabbit eye movement.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently Michael Stipe just cribbed it from the dictionary after

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<v Speaker 3>pointing to the word at random.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably the laziest way to come up with a

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<v Speaker 1>band name, but you do hear that happening a lot, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess my pick for this one would be kiss.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think, you know, everybody's heard the rumors that

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<v Speaker 1>the name secretly stands for something sinister. I remember hearing

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid that it stood for things like kids

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<v Speaker 1>in Satan's service. But you know, according to Jane Simmons,

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<v Speaker 1>the name doesn't stand for anything and was simply just this,

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<v Speaker 1>like this idle suggestion from one band member to another.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was it was Paul Stanley that came up

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<v Speaker 1>with this, And he's actually gone on record that he

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<v Speaker 1>chose the name Kiss because it quote just sounded dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>and sexy at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess you can't argue with the results,

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<v Speaker 3>or I guess you can actually, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure some people found them sexy and others dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my sister would be included in that category.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I've told you this before, but my sister

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<v Speaker 1>is a few years older than I am, so when

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<v Speaker 1>I was little, I would sneak into her room and

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<v Speaker 1>to her music. But i'd also, of course go through

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<v Speaker 1>all of her stuff. And one of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>remember finding was this shoe box, and it was full

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<v Speaker 1>of these Kiss trading.

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<v Speaker 2>Cards, kiss ianthing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hilarious to look at it. I really wish she

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<v Speaker 1>still had.

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<v Speaker 2>These and that's pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, for my money, the best faw acronym

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<v Speaker 3>band name is still wasp Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember them. So they were a heavy metal band

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<v Speaker 1>and back in it was this seven. I guess this

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<v Speaker 1>was the eighties, right, And I can't believe that's not

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<v Speaker 1>actually an acronyman. They even put a period between each

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<v Speaker 1>of the letters.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I mean, I guess it's from the era

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<v Speaker 3>where you'd put gratuitous like umlots and nonsense and names

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<v Speaker 3>like wing dings and whatever. But supposedly it was just

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<v Speaker 3>because not many other bands had done it at that time,

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<v Speaker 3>and they hoped it would make them stand out and

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<v Speaker 3>get people curious about the band. But just like Kiss,

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<v Speaker 3>rumors swirled that the acronyms did for all sorts of

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<v Speaker 3>naughty stuff, like we are sexual perverts, we are Satan's preachers,

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<v Speaker 3>we all smoke pot. But my favorite red herring of

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<v Speaker 3>that lot is an answer that one of the band

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<v Speaker 3>members gave when he was doing an interview, and he said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they asked what does was stand for?

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<v Speaker 2>He said, we ain't sure, pal.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I like that. There's some pretty good ones there,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So the periods were just a marketing technique.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about the name itself, I mean, does it

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<v Speaker 1>stand for anything or like, why WASP?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess one of the band members saw wasp one

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<v Speaker 3>night and thought it might make for a cool band name.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, I guess you kind of stacked the

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<v Speaker 1>deck with this category, but I'm still gonna give you

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<v Speaker 1>this one as well for WASP, so we will add

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<v Speaker 1>them to the list here.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is awesome because I'm two for two and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think you have any points on the board.

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<v Speaker 1>Right No, but don't don't get too cocky. We've still

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<v Speaker 1>got a bunch of origins to get to and I

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<v Speaker 1>really doubt you're gonna be able top this next one.

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<v Speaker 1>But before I hit you with it, let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break. You're listening to Part Time Genius and we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the weird stories behind famous band names, all right, mango.

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<v Speaker 1>So now our Hall of Fame needs to be the

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<v Speaker 1>best story for a band name taken from a TV

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<v Speaker 1>show or movie. It can be either one, and I

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<v Speaker 1>actually think I've got the perfect contender. Now. At first

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about fallout Boy, you know, because I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about Fallout Boy, or maybe not, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>They've been this nameless band until they pulled the audience

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<v Speaker 1>at their second show and someone in the crowd shouted

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<v Speaker 1>out the name of Radioactive Man's superhero sidekick from The Simpsons,

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<v Speaker 1>and it actually just sort of stuck.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing, that's where it comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a pretty good story. So but actually then

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I'd go with something a little more obscure,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what led me to the Bloodhound Gang. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember the Bloodhound Gang?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I mean I wish I didn't, because they had

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<v Speaker 3>that annoying song bad Touch, and the video of it

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<v Speaker 3>was just them in monkey costumes running around town and

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<v Speaker 3>I guess doing weird, dirty things to everyone inside.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It was just art mango. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why you don't want to remember that. Well, there

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<v Speaker 1>is something interesting I found out about that when you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about them running around doing weird and dirty things

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<v Speaker 1>to everything in the video, And honestly, that's that the

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<v Speaker 1>Bloodhound Gang was actually a lot more wholesome than you

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<v Speaker 1>might think, or or at least their name was. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's because the band took it from this recurring sketch

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<v Speaker 1>that was on the old three to one Contact show

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<v Speaker 1>the Way from PBS in the eighties. I know you

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<v Speaker 1>were a big fan as a kid, definitely. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>sketch was all about this group of dorky kids called

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<v Speaker 1>the Bloodhound Gang, and so they'd get together and try

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<v Speaker 1>to solve these crimes using math puzzles, and that's where

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<v Speaker 1>they got the name.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty funny that, you know, such a raunchy bend

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<v Speaker 3>would take their name from kids program. But uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>even though three two one Contact Magazine was actually a

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<v Speaker 3>huge influence on me in mental fluss. Seriously, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 3>still not sure I want those guys in our Hall

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<v Speaker 3>of fame.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, I guess that video did a number on you.

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<v Speaker 1>But all right, I do agree with you. No Bloodhound

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<v Speaker 1>Gang allowed, So we got to come up with another one.

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<v Speaker 2>So what sort of slammed on entry do you have

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<v Speaker 2>for TVA movies?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that would be a little band I like to

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<v Speaker 1>call exclamation Point, exclamation Point, exclamation point, or as fans

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<v Speaker 1>have wisely decided to call them, Chickchick Chick. Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're this post punk funk group out of Sacramento,

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<v Speaker 1>and they actually took their unusual name from the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty South African comedy The Gods Must Be Crazy. You

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<v Speaker 1>remember this movie, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>So for listeners who haven't seen it, it's about this

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<v Speaker 3>remote African tribe that lives in peace until they find

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<v Speaker 3>a coke bottle that falls out of an airplane and

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<v Speaker 3>they all start fighting over it. And you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a funny movie. But I have tomit. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what it has to do with those three exclamation points.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in the movie, the Bushman Shoshin language was subtitled

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<v Speaker 1>as a series of exclamation points, and the band liked

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of using that to refer to a different

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sound, you know, one that's hard to categorize,

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess that's how they viewed their own music now,

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<v Speaker 1>because the bush language sometimes sounds a lot like clicking sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you know, the most common pronunciation is chickchick, chick.

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<v Speaker 1>But according to the band, the intention was for people

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<v Speaker 1>to use any three repetitive sounds and they could just

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<v Speaker 1>choose them, so you could call the band bam bam

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<v Speaker 1>bam or pow pow pow, and you know, you technically

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<v Speaker 1>still be talking about the same band. I can give

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<v Speaker 1>you other examples example, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, all right, Well, I think you sold me on

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<v Speaker 3>Chick Chick Chick, and that's gonna get my vote. But

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<v Speaker 3>I have a feeling this next category is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a bit more hotly contested, and it's the best

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<v Speaker 3>band name for somebody who isn't in the band.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, there's a bunch of good examples for this vote. Actually.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, you you know Alice Cooper, right, mm hmm. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the band was originally called the Earwigs, but after playing

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<v Speaker 1>around with a Wuiji board, it put him in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with a ghost name Alice Cooper, so they decided to

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<v Speaker 1>switch to that instead.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love that Wuiji board story.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what's weird is that I didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>know Alice Cooper was a band, Like I thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was just the one guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well not at first. There was the guy that ended

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<v Speaker 1>up taking the name, and it was the front man.

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<v Speaker 1>His real name was Vincent Fernier. But after he split

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<v Speaker 1>off from the band, he went solo and he actually

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<v Speaker 1>ended up just taking the name Alice with him.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean that is pretty cool, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I prefer bands named after real people, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why my pick for this category is Pink Floyd.

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<v Speaker 1>No way is that they have a real person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's actually the name of two real people.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, one of the band's founding members, the

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<v Speaker 3>legendary said Barrett came up with idea for combining the

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<v Speaker 3>names of two of his favorite blues musicians, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>Pink Anderson and Floyd Council.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, I had no idea about that, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>but that does mean if I'm not mistaken that Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>Council would still be on the table then.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>So for any nameless bands out there, here's the answer

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<v Speaker 3>you've been looking for, all right, Well, I have.

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<v Speaker 1>To give it to you. Pink Floyd is a two

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<v Speaker 1>for with that double homage, and that is tough to beat.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have one I've been saving, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give the edge to, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>my Alabama brothers Leonard SKINNERD.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, aren't they from Florida?

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<v Speaker 1>Details details name.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean in terms of fake sounding names like Leonard SKINNERD, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>no real name has that many?

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<v Speaker 2>Wise?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, how many times I've written it? I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how many times I've actually written it, but I never

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<v Speaker 1>can seem to get it right. But you might have

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<v Speaker 1>a point, because you know, while the band did take

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<v Speaker 1>their name in honor of their real life gem teacher

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<v Speaker 1>and basketball coach, they also tweaked it a little to

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<v Speaker 1>sound a little bit more interesting. So the real guy's

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<v Speaker 1>name was Leonard Skinner, and after the band made him

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<v Speaker 1>their namesake, Skinner reconnected with his old pupils and actually

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<v Speaker 1>even m seed one of their shows. But really, though,

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<v Speaker 1>the band might have been better off just sticking with

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard Skinner, because you know, their name was just so

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<v Speaker 1>hard to remember how to spell, and the misspelled version

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<v Speaker 1>they went on was just so phonetically confusing that even

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<v Speaker 1>their self titled debut album, it had this little pronunciation. Guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've seen this before, but on

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<v Speaker 1>the cover of the album to help people know how

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<v Speaker 1>to pronounce it, you know, just to be safe.

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<v Speaker 2>That's ridiculous. Okay, so I guess you're two for two.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give that one to you.

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<v Speaker 3>But this next category I think is all mine because

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<v Speaker 3>I found the all time best band name inspired by

0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.359
<v Speaker 3>another artist, and it belongs to none other than the

0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:08.520
<v Speaker 3>man who taught the world to do the twist, mister

0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:09.439
<v Speaker 3>Chubby Checker.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, So who inspired Chubby Checker's name.

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<v Speaker 3>So apparently it's a riff on the name of fellow

0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:20.000
<v Speaker 3>musician and near contemporary Fats Domino. Yeah, but the first

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<v Speaker 3>person to ever call Ernest Evans by the name Chubby

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<v Speaker 3>Checker was actually Dick Clark's wife, and they met when

0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.479
<v Speaker 3>Chubby appeared on Dick Clark's American Bandstand in nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 3>and during the recording, Chubby launched into this impression of

0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Fats Domino, And afterwards he told missus Clark that his

0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.280
<v Speaker 3>friends actually called him Chubby, and she smiled and said

0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:40.560
<v Speaker 3>as in Checker, and he just kind of liked it

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<v Speaker 3>so much that he used it as a stage name

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<v Speaker 3>from then on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is one of those that, in hindsight

0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you think that Fats Domino and Chubby Checker, it seems obvious,

0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 1>but I actually had never made that connection before. All right,

0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.919
<v Speaker 1>so I will concede this when Chubby Checker should have

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<v Speaker 1>a spot in the band Name Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm glad you're on board, because I really like

0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.080
<v Speaker 3>that one, and it just kind of lines up perfectly

0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.240
<v Speaker 3>with an article I read about the science of choosing

0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:06.240
<v Speaker 3>the perfect band name.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I definitely want to hear more about this, but

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<v Speaker 1>first let's take a quick break, all right, mango, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to spill it. What is the secret to

0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:28.400
<v Speaker 1>coming up with a truly top shelf band name?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if we've shown anything today, it's that memorable band

0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:33.280
<v Speaker 3>names come from all different places.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:36.879
<v Speaker 3>Some are homages to real life events and people. Others

0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:40.440
<v Speaker 3>are nonsense words or appealing phrases crib for media or

0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:43.920
<v Speaker 3>other musicians. And some names come in sudden flashes of inspiration.

0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:46.679
<v Speaker 3>I mean, others just seem to be whatever a drummer

0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 3>happened to be looking at at the time. And there's

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.840
<v Speaker 3>really no one fixed approach that works. But there actually

0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:54.159
<v Speaker 3>do seem to be some linguistic patterns that crop up

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:55.399
<v Speaker 3>among the best band names.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So what do you mean by patterns?

0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.800
<v Speaker 3>So, just on a basic level, most compelling band names

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 3>have something unusual about them. So you know, you think

0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:06.479
<v Speaker 3>about like the Grateful Dead or the Flaming Lips, and

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 3>those are just these unexpected word combinations that you find

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 3>together and when you hear them, they kind of grab

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.400
<v Speaker 3>your attention. But there's also this other factor that's more

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 3>cultural than linguistic, and what's that. So this might sound

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:21.680
<v Speaker 3>a little strange, but it comes down to the way

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 3>people connect words and names that belong to a certain category. So,

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:28.520
<v Speaker 3>for example, like think about something the naming patterns for cars, right,

0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 3>two big ones that might come up are fast moving animals.

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 3>You've got things like the Jaguar, the Mustang, even the viper,

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 3>And also astronomical figures, so like turists or mercury, nova, Saturn, Subaru. Like,

0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 3>at this point, we're kind of so used to these

0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:48.200
<v Speaker 3>recurring patterns and carnons that any words that fit into

0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 3>that genre like that rings true to us.

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Is a good name for a car?

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<v Speaker 1>That's yeah, that's true definitely, But so are you're saying

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>that the same kind of thing happens with band names.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally, But this isn't something I recognized on my own.

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:03.119
<v Speaker 3>It's actually the theory of this linguist named Chilu. And

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 3>one important thing she points out in her research is

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 3>that these cultural associations that we create for categories of

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 3>names are always changing over time. So here's actually a

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.120
<v Speaker 3>quote from her article in Jay Store where she lays

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:18.360
<v Speaker 3>out some of these generational patterns of music, she writes.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote short names beginning with the and a common noun

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.640
<v Speaker 3>is an obvious pattern from the mid twentieth century. We've

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 3>got the beetles, the monkeys, the animals, the Kanks, and

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:31.360
<v Speaker 3>that scene a revival in recent times. The heavy metal

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:34.639
<v Speaker 3>genre is one of the classes with more obvious linguistic patterns,

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 3>usually involving death, so Megadeth's Layer, of course, and other

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 3>perils such as dangerous animals, white snake weapons, guns n' roses,

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 3>iron Maiden, or sometimes drugs and unhealthy substances poison.

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>All Right, so I guess it does make sense. Like

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 1>when you were talking about Chubby Checker before, it lines

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:56.679
<v Speaker 1>up pretty well with this idea of these these naming patterns. Obviously,

0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 1>in this case, it was picking a name that wasn't

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>too far off from somebody else's, you know, Fats Domino

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 1>in this case. And so he kind of found that

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 1>ultimate shortcut to making a recognizable band name.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And I mean that seems to be like the

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.479
<v Speaker 3>cardinal rule of rock and roll, where the music's always derivative, right,

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Like it's always pulling from the blues. So why shouldn't

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 3>been naming conventions be derivative? As well just copy the

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 3>other guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a good point and it does seem to

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>work all right. Well, I wanted to come back to

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>some of these other names, but I'm not sure if

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 1>you experienced this, but in doing the research, there were

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 1>definitely a ton of fun band name origins that they

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of don't fit into a particular category. I feel

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 1>like we should take a little bit of time to

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<v Speaker 1>just throw out a few wildcard entries for our band

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:37.959
<v Speaker 1>name Hall of Fame. Yeah, I love that.

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:38.479
<v Speaker 2>It's perfect.

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:41.639
<v Speaker 3>So I've actually been dying to talk about Dexy's Midnight Runners,

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 3>and I don't think there's any other way I could

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:44.199
<v Speaker 3>work them in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounds like kind of a tough sell, So

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I have to admit, who are they exactly?

0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 3>So you might remember them as the British band they

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 3>gave us the eighties hit song come On Eileen.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I definitely don't remember them as that. I mean,

0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>of course I remember the song that I couldn't have

0:25:58.600 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 1>told you who sung it.

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:00.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, either way, their naming situation is basically the exact

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:06.119
<v Speaker 3>opposite of what happened with the Bloodhound Gangs. So instead

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 3>of being like a raunchy band with an innocent name.

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 3>The Dexi's Midnight Runners were I guess, like a squeaky

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 3>clean band with a highly suspect name.

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 1>That sounds pretty funny, but I think you're gonna have

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 1>to walk me through because I honestly have no clue

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:21.199
<v Speaker 1>what a Dexi's Midnight Runner is.

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So the band openly admitted that the Dexi's part

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 3>of their name comes from a you know, a stimulant

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:30.880
<v Speaker 3>called dexa Dream and this was popular among soul music

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 3>fans in Northern England during the seventies, and the Midnight

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Runners part that refers to the users who used the

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 3>drug as a way to dance all night long.

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, so so, but you said these guys were

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:42.360
<v Speaker 1>like a squeaky.

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Clean band totally.

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:46.199
<v Speaker 3>So they were completely sober and they didn't even have

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 3>alcohol at any of the shows.

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, that's pretty bizarre. But that's great, all right. Well,

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:52.919
<v Speaker 1>I think my wild card pick is an oldie but

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>a goodie, and that would be the one and only

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>led Zeppelin. You can kind of think of this as

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the Yankee Doodle Award for our Hall of Fame because,

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>just like in that song, the name led Zeppelin has

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>its origins in something that was originally intended as an insult.

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>So the story goes that The Who's Keith Moon was

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 1>actually invited to drum for this new London band, but

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>ended up being so unimpressed with the other members and

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.199
<v Speaker 1>he mockingly predicted that they would quote go down like

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>a lead balloon. So then John Entwhistle basis for The Who,

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>went even further than that, and he remarked that the

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>new band would be such a colossal failure that it

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>would be more like a led Zeppelin.

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Which is pretty harsh but also kind of clever.

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was, but maybe as clever as that. When

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>the insult made its way back to Jimmy Page and

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>his manager, they actually thought it was so funny that

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>they decided to make it the official band name, though

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>only after dropping the A from lead, and the whole

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>reason was to, you know, to keep Americans from mispronouncing

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>it as lead Zeppelin.

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know what I should be impressed by

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:59.360
<v Speaker 3>how much they cared about preserving like that lead balloon joke.

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 2>At all costs.

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 3>I guess insulted by how little they thought of American intelligence.

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I sort of think it was a

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 1>smart call. I mean, you remember the pronunciation guide I

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 1>mentioned about Leonard Skinner, right, Yeah.

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Of course, And I guess I understand that desire to

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 3>make sure your name comes across as intended, because the

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 3>name a band goes with can have this major impact

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.679
<v Speaker 3>on a musician's career, didnerring everything from their radio exposure

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 3>to merchandise design to you know, what kind of people

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 3>will actually listen to the songs. And even after the

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.199
<v Speaker 3>music stops and the spotlight shifts to someone else, a

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.199
<v Speaker 3>good name can still keep a band afloat in the

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.680
<v Speaker 3>cultural site, guys, so long as there's an interesting story

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 3>about where it came from.

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I mean I think you're absolutely right. I

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>was actually this close to talk about Hoody and the

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Blowfish today and Mango. It's twenty eighteen.

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, you haven't missed your opportunity yet.

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 3>It's time for the fact off and there's still a

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 3>few empty spots left to talk about band names.

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, dust off your Blowfish, Hoody, you're coming in.

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to start us off.

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 3>And I love it when bands named themselves after songs

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 3>from other bands, as somewhat of a tribute, and that's

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 3>actually how Radiohead got their name. When they first formed

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 3>in the mid eighties, they were known as on a Friday,

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 3>which was the day that they got together to practice.

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 3>But then five or six years later, when they signed

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 3>with EMI, they actually changed their name to Radiohead as

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 3>a tribute to the Talking Heads and their nineteen eighty

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 3>six song Radiohead.

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, something similar actually happened with the Rolling Stones.

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>So Jagger and Richards first formed the band back in

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the early sixties, and at that point they were called

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the Blue Boys. But the story goes that during an

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>interview with this jazz focused newspaper, guitarist Brian Jones spotted

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>this Muddy Waters record. It was just sitting there on

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the floor where he was doing the interview, and it

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>made him think about that song Rolling Stone from the

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>same album, and that's where they got the name.

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 2>That's really cool.

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 3>So, you know, having played in a band in high

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 3>school or several bands in high school, I love stories

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 3>of groups that you know, met hiss kids and kept

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 3>performing together. And another one of those was a group

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 3>that came together in the nineties out of Cleveland. They

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 3>were just in junior high school when they started rapping together,

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 3>and one day Anthony Crazy Bone Henderson had this minor

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 3>crash on his moped, and in somewhat of an act

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 3>of solidarity, the group all spored bandages and they started

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 3>calling themselves the band Aid Boys, And while that name

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 3>didn't stick, we now know them as Bone Thugs and Harmony.

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I also think it's fun when bands don't

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>seem to actually remember their origin, or at least there

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>are competing stories for origins. And one of these where

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I saw so many different stories on this was Pearl Jam,

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:37.239
<v Speaker 1>and so I won't share all of them. But there

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>have been some claims that the band name was inspired

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 1>by Eddie Vedder's great grandmother Pearl, who apparently made this

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>famous peote jam. I don't know if this is true enough.

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>And I thought that was pretty funny, and then it

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>ranges to the much less interesting. You know, one of

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>them that they just liked the word pearl and then

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>they added jam to it because that's what a group

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>of musicians do. So I think I'm gonna stick with

0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 1>the great grandmother story. It just seems so much more

0:30:59.320 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>fun to believe.

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that a lot.

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, I know, we're not really focusing on cover bands,

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 3>but there's one that's kind of a cover band but

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 3>also kind of a weirdly inspired band called Austrian Death Machine,

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 3>and apparently they sing entirely in the style of Arnold Schwarzenegger,

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 3>and all their songs are from some of his famous

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 3>one liners. So you know, like it's not a tumor,

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<v Speaker 3>which you can actually find on the band's first album,

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<v Speaker 3>Total Brutal, which is right, that's actually the first album's name.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, just the first album. Wow, this band is something else.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine that's one of those shows that you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be so hilarious, and for the first

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes it's so hilarious, and then it's just torture

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<v Speaker 1>from that point on. All right, Mango, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to disappoint anybody, because we promised to include Hoody and

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<v Speaker 1>the Blowfish, and I'm here to deliver. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we actually did promise, but we said Hoody and

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<v Speaker 1>the Blowfish.

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<v Speaker 2>We promised, we did.

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<v Speaker 1>We promised Hoody. But you know, I think most people

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<v Speaker 1>assume that the frontman Darius Rucker was Hoody and that

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<v Speaker 1>his supporting band members were the Blowfish. But it actually

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<v Speaker 1>turns out that he's kind of both, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>both names came from people that Darius went to school with.

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<v Speaker 1>So one was this kid they called Hoodie because I

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<v Speaker 1>guess he kind of looked like an owl. And there

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<v Speaker 1>was a separate classmate that had these puffed up cheeks

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<v Speaker 1>and was nicknamed Blowfish. So I'm not sure why they

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<v Speaker 1>decided to combine these two, and I kind of want

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<v Speaker 1>to see pictures of these guys. It just would make

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<v Speaker 1>for an interesting story. But it seemed to work. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually got an equally important fact because just recently

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<v Speaker 1>a friend reminded me that in our high school yearbook

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<v Speaker 1>there was a photo of me playing basketball in a game,

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<v Speaker 1>and for some reason, when I was dribbling, I would

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<v Speaker 1>do this thing where I'd blow out my cheeks like

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<v Speaker 1>a blowfish, you know, kind of like Jordan's tongue, but

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<v Speaker 1>much less cool and much less effective.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, when you weren't dunking.

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<v Speaker 1>When I wasn't dunking, that's what I was doing. And anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing that in this photo, and the capture

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<v Speaker 1>under it said Willie and the Blowfish. So how about

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<v Speaker 1>that Mango? Pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I feel like you deserved today's trophy just based

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<v Speaker 3>on that story alone.

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