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Speaker 2: Taylor hit Buddy Counts into the end zone, touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Play action? Now he's in trouble and he's going to

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Speaker 3: Never quit, I never know fault, I never not compete,

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Speaker 3: and I will always containe to be a great, great leader,

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Speaker 2: And now he checks it down left side looking for

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Speaker 1: This is the Official Colts Podcast, giving you an updated

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. This is another episode of the Official

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Speaker 2: Colts Cast here at the end of May. We're brought

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Speaker 2: to you by a wind Bet Matt Taylor here, Larra

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Speaker 2: there had a great Memorial Day weekend. I know I

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Speaker 2: did Memorial Day weekend, always the unofficial kickoff the summer

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Speaker 2: around these parts. JJ, how was your holiday weekend? How

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Speaker 2: How long did it take you to get to the airport?

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Speaker 5: About an hour? But so so lift has surge zones

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Speaker 5: a listener offer me his Mark Burley White Sox Jersey Race.

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Speaker 5: Oh Man, big time for our discussion last week, Big time.

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Speaker 5: What did you end up going with? I went with

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Speaker 5: It happens. And you said Tucker would just wore a

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Speaker 2: talking all things OTAs and the Colts. That's because the

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Speaker 2: and Lara always love having this guy. Antoine Bethey is

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Speaker 5: That practice was crisp and efficient, that it wasn't a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think what you want to see is that

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Speaker 5: like Hurts is in his own league with Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: Why why the side? Okay, I heard you over there,

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Speaker 6: You know, everyone wants to make comparisons and they want,

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Speaker 2: Stop it.

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Speaker 6: Don't expect him to be Jalen Hurts. Don't compare him

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Speaker 5: Who does he look like?

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Speaker 6: But I just think that like, to some degree, like

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Speaker 6: And I think that you just have to like allow

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Speaker 6: This isn't justin Anthony Richardson thing, but I do think

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Speaker 6: I think that they have such a struggle to figure

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Speaker 2: Now I agree with that. I love this, and I

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Speaker 5: Well, here's why I totally agree with the direct comparison

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Speaker 5: he's just like Josh Allen. He's more athletic than Josh Allen.

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Speaker 6: You know, and he's quite a bit bigger than Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 5: He's bigger than Jalen Hurts. But think about it too, Carolina,

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Speaker 5: They're both good at running, but maybe it's different. Richardson,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he will, though, really improve under

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Speaker 2: Minshew or Richardson Lara getting the line share of those reps.

437
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Speaker 2: Is that later on in OTAs or is that mini

438
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Speaker 2: camp or do we have to go a couple weeks

439
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Speaker 2: into training camp to get to that point.

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Speaker 6: I think things are going to be pretty even right

441
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Speaker 6: now through this period, much like we heard Shane sdike

442
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Speaker 6: and describe them as last week. I think you'll keep

443
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Speaker 6: a little bit more of that. Maybe there are certain

444
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Speaker 6: days where the workload skews to one a little bit

445
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Speaker 6: more than the other, dependent upon what they're doing and

446
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Speaker 6: different things like that, but I think you're gonna see,

447
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Speaker 6: you know, maybe it's not a precise fifty to fifty

448
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Speaker 6: first team rep split, but I think it's gonna be

449
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Speaker 6: pretty close through ve mini camp as to not overwhelm

450
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Speaker 6: one or the other and still to provide pretty fair

451
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Speaker 6: opportunities to both the guys that you have, plus Cmllener

452
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Speaker 6: of course in there as well. I don't think you're

453
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Speaker 6: going to see them skew much from that until you

454
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Speaker 6: really get into the thick of training camp and you're

455
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Speaker 6: really able to get a lot more of the meaningful

456
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Speaker 6: work out of those team periods.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're probably looking at once you get

458
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Speaker 5: through the heavy install phase of training camp, maybe that's

459
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Speaker 5: when you start seeing more separation in that. So to

460
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Speaker 5: kind of answer your question, Mayde, that's probably a few

461
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Speaker 5: weeks into training camp.

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Speaker 6: And you know what makes me really excited about that is,

463
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Speaker 6: I think for the first I want to say, I

464
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Speaker 6: shouldn't say for the first time in a while, but

465
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Speaker 6: I mean, because they've always been meaningful, but I really

466
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Speaker 6: think that preseason is going to be really exciting this year.

467
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Speaker 6: Of course, we've had new quarterbacks the past few seasons,

468
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Speaker 6: so it has been an important period in these last

469
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Speaker 6: few years where you've had the different guys coming in,

470
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Speaker 6: you know, especially you know Carson and Matt Ryan and

471
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Speaker 6: all of that. But I do think right now, those

472
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Speaker 6: those three games are going to give you a lot

473
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Speaker 6: to watch and a lot to assess when it comes

474
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Speaker 6: to how much you see Anthony Richardson, Gardner Minshew, when

475
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Speaker 6: you see Sam Ellen are in addition to everyone else

476
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Speaker 6: that you're looking forward to watching.

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Speaker 2: So from somebody who has all those rookies too, all.

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Speaker 6: It's exactly right. A ton of those rookies who are

479
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Speaker 6: going to be expected to be meaningful contributors come Week one,

480
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Speaker 6: and they're going to need to show some things in

481
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Speaker 6: those preseason opportunities.

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Speaker 2: All right, speaking of rookies, and again, Antoine Bethay is

483
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Speaker 2: gonna join us in just a second, we'll hear from

484
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Speaker 2: him again. He was talking rookies last week to the

485
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Speaker 2: Colts first year players. Any other rookies for you, JJ

486
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Speaker 2: that caught your eye last week in the OTAs well.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Darius Rush had to pick six. I'm gonna

488
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Speaker 5: go with him and standing next to Rick Van Turrey

489
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Speaker 5: during practice and just hearing him gush.

490
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Speaker 2: And he's my dark horse to start.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, you see the ball skills that he

492
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Speaker 5: has as a former wide receiver, the four to three

493
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Speaker 5: six speed, he's got good length. Ron Miles has a

494
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Speaker 5: couple of dudes to work with their Darius Rush is

495
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Speaker 5: one of them. We kind of caught my eye early on.

496
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the rookies, they're going through so much this time

497
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Speaker 2: of year, right, draft process, the combine, you know, learning

498
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Speaker 2: a new playbook, now moving to a new city, learning

499
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Speaker 2: new teammates, acclimating to just the NFL lifestyle and the

500
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Speaker 2: grind and how to handle your money, where to live,

501
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: how to be a pro. There's a lot on their

502
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: plate and a guy that navigated it and navigated it

503
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Speaker 2: very well early in his career for the Colts. That

504
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Speaker 2: was Antwine Bethey. He started right away as a safety

505
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: in two thousand and six. He was in town last week,

506
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Speaker 2: as Leira said, with Edgrin James, talking with Colts rookies,

507
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Speaker 2: shedding some advice to the first year players. And before

508
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Speaker 2: he did that, though, Casey Valier and I, we had

509
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Speaker 2: a chance to catch up with him in studio. Here's

510
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Speaker 2: our chat with Antoine Bethet late last week. Take a listen.

511
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Speaker 2: Joining us now an Twine Bethet Colts Safety, Colts Great

512
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Speaker 2: from two thousand and six to twenty thirteen. He was

513
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Speaker 2: here inside this building, inside the locker room, fourteen years

514
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Speaker 2: in the NFL. Retired in twenty nineteen. Antwine, It's always

515
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Speaker 2: fantastic to have you in this studio.

516
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Speaker 4: You been I've been great. I've been great, and I

517
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Speaker 4: appreciate you for having me.

518
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Speaker 2: You know, we talked to you last summer. I think

519
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Speaker 2: we talked to you on the phone.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

521
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Speaker 2: It was our Cults Reunion podcast series. So you're in

522
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Speaker 2: here talking to the cults rookies today, what tell us

523
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Speaker 2: you know what what involvement that entails for you.

524
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Speaker 3: So you know, the great David Thornton, he does a

525
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: great job with the guys, and you know, he reached

526
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Speaker 3: out and you know, asked, Hey, would you be willing

527
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Speaker 3: to come and speak to the rookies, And I say,

528
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Speaker 3: you know, I definitely would, and you know, just be

529
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Speaker 3: able to come and tell them my story, you know,

530
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Speaker 3: my experience on what I went through as a rookie,

531
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Speaker 3: on what I could expect, not only on the field,

532
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Speaker 3: but off the field as well. So anything I could

533
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Speaker 3: do to to help the colts, help the rookies, I'm

534
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Speaker 3: all for.

535
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Speaker 2: The rookie year for an NFL player, I mean, certainly

536
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Speaker 2: a different dynamic. What what do you remember most about

537
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Speaker 2: being drafted and then coming into your first offseason workout

538
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Speaker 2: program in the spring.

539
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Speaker 4: Man, it was a lot and it happened so fast.

540
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Speaker 3: You know, you think about the end of your college

541
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Speaker 3: season and all the things you gotta you have to

542
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Speaker 3: go through combine, you know, and get then getting drafted,

543
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Speaker 3: getting that call, or even if you don't get that call,

544
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 3: you know, but you know, you get the call, and

545
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 3: it's so many, so many emotions, not only for you

546
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Speaker 3: but your family that's been been with you through the

547
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Speaker 3: process and when you walk into the into the building.

548
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Speaker 3: And I would say for me, I can only speak

549
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Speaker 3: for myself. It was you know you got Peyton Manning,

550
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Speaker 3: you got Marvin Harrison, Yeah, you know you got Jeff

551
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: side of that, you got Reggie Wayne Dallas Clark, Like

552
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 3: you got so many greats that you was watching on TV.

553
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Speaker 4: Bob Sanders, you know what I mean. It's like so

554
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Speaker 4: many greats you were watching on TV. Now I'm in the.

555
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Speaker 3: Locker room with him, I'm playing alongside with him, and

556
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Speaker 3: I'll be lined up in front of them doing OTAs.

557
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Speaker 3: So it was so many different emotions, but again, a

558
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Speaker 3: time that I'll never forget.

559
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Speaker 2: Now that's literally where I wanted to go with that.

560
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Speaker 7: I mean, you get drafted in the sixth round to

561
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Speaker 7: a team who we all know that as a rookie

562
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Speaker 7: you win the Super Bowl. So you get drafted to

563
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Speaker 7: a team that is stacked, right, what are your first emotions,

564
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Speaker 7: Like you see the team that you're getting drafted to

565
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Speaker 7: and go while we can win right now? How exciting

566
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Speaker 7: was that moment?

567
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Speaker 3: Very so obviously the first thing is that I just

568
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Speaker 3: want an opportunity with any thirty two of the teams

569
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Speaker 3: in the NFL. But then when it was the coach,

570
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 3: it was like, that's even better, right, because honestly, I

571
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: think everybody knew they should have won the Super Bowl

572
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: the year prime, right, So to be able to come

573
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Speaker 3: into an organization and you know, you have coach Dungee,

574
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Speaker 3: hall of Hall of Fame, coach, hall of Fame general

575
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Speaker 3: manager as far as Bill Poland, so to be able

576
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Speaker 3: to come into a locker room like the coach and

577
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Speaker 3: the culture, it was just unbelievable.

578
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Speaker 4: And my thoughts and my only thought was just going

579
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Speaker 4: there and.

580
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Speaker 3: Show that you're different of some type of way, right,

581
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Speaker 3: and show that you can add value to the team.

582
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Speaker 3: And that was my whole thought process.

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Speaker 7: Now you hear people talk about, you know, the first year,

584
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Speaker 7: as you mentioned, it's a whirlwind. You win a super

585
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Speaker 7: Bowl as a rookie and then you go on to

586
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Speaker 7: have this career. How long did it really take to

587
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Speaker 7: kind of let that sink in that first year in

588
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 7: you achieve the pinnacle of what you're trying to do,

589
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Speaker 7: and then you try to work for that every year

590
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Speaker 7: after that, how much How long did it take that

591
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Speaker 7: kind of sink in?

592
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Speaker 3: It was year nine, so year one winning Super Bowl

593
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna win like forty it's easy.

594
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Speaker 2: So we go back year four and with the guy

595
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Speaker 2: playing quarterback like you always.

596
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Speaker 4: Right, So we go back year four.

597
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: We lose, but then you know, things happen, We bring in,

598
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: we draft luck, we still have an opportunity. Right, But

599
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: then when I left Indy and I went elsewhere, and

600
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Speaker 3: you know, for the next six years, I never made

601
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Speaker 3: the playoffs again. So at that time, I'm like, you know,

602
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Speaker 3: we had something really special in Indy. Indeed, we had

603
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Speaker 3: something really special. Out of the eight years I was here,

604
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Speaker 3: we made the playoffs seven of those years. Wow, And

605
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Speaker 3: that's when I knew. I'm like, okay, we really had

606
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Speaker 3: something special.

607
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Speaker 2: You know, you can't in right away. We talked about

608
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Speaker 2: this last summer. You came in right away. You are

609
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Speaker 2: a starter Week one of your rookie season, drafted in

610
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Speaker 2: the sixth round. Loaded question here, I understand that, but

611
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Speaker 2: how hard is it for a rookie to play right

612
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Speaker 2: away in the NFL.

613
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Speaker 4: It's tough. It's tough, But again, I did it, so

614
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 4: it can, it can be done, and it has been done.

615
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Speaker 3: I think as a rookie, I think it's it's a

616
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Speaker 3: number of things that has that has to go into that.

617
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Speaker 4: Right. Obviously, the player has to be ready the player.

618
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Speaker 3: It's an accountability where you know a young guys coming

619
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Speaker 3: in and you know they ask him to step into

620
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Speaker 3: a role. But then I also think it's the coach

621
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Speaker 3: is getting to put their young player ready. They're just

622
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Speaker 3: a collective to be like, look, I know the young

623
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Speaker 3: guys gonna come in, he's gonna play for us, but

624
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Speaker 3: we have to understand that he's gonna make some mistakes.

625
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Speaker 3: So I think it's collective as far as you know, player, coach,

626
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 3: you know, gm rgalization and everything.

627
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Speaker 4: But they can't be done.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, you're coming in here, you're giving your

629
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Speaker 2: mess to the rookies. What sort of words of wisdom

630
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Speaker 2: can you give them? Can you share a story of

631
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Speaker 2: your rookie season in terms of how tough it was

632
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Speaker 2: to acclimate or life off the field, like any anecdotes

633
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Speaker 2: on how difficult it was just managing life in the

634
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Speaker 2: NFL that first go round.

635
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think first and foremost, I think

636
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Speaker 3: and I always say this when I talk to guys.

637
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Speaker 4: The quick the sooner, you can learn that this is

638
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Speaker 4: a business. I think you can. You you can help

639
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 4: yourself a lot, right. I don't think we talk about

640
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 4: that enough.

641
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: We talk about the football and as we should, but

642
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: it's this is a billion dollar business and you got

643
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: to treat it as such. The organization is, the GM is,

644
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: the owner is, so why wouldn't you so? I think

645
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: that's one of the biggest things like that as a rookie,

646
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Speaker 3: if you the sooner, you can understand that this is

647
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Speaker 3: a business and people are going to do what's best

648
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Speaker 3: for the business.

649
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Speaker 4: You have to you have to understand that.

650
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Speaker 2: And it's every day. I mean, you have to prove

651
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: your worth and your value every single day because everybody's

652
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: replaceable one hundred.

653
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Speaker 3: Like I talk about it, you get critiqued every day.

654
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Speaker 3: You get critique every day, like I'm pretty sure other

655
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: other places you get critique, But to get critique every day.

656
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 4: You go to work, right, like that's that's.

657
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: Something because teams are always trying to find that.

658
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 4: One exactly to get back exactly. So that's the first thing.

659
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: But then also being able to manage off the field

660
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: where you know, you're dealing with family, you're dealing with friends,

661
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: You're dealing with you know, trying to trying to be

662
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: the best you know, at your position, at your job,

663
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: staying healthy. So it's a lot, you know, and again

664
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: being a rookie, being twenty one, being twenty years old,

665
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Speaker 3: it's a lot to handle.

666
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Speaker 7: Now you're you're helping out the young guys. When you

667
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 7: step in and you're talking to him, does it not

668
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Speaker 7: seem like it was that long ago that you were

669
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Speaker 7: in your in their shoes. I mean it time flies,

670
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Speaker 7: but I'm sure it doesn't seem like it was that

671
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Speaker 7: long ago.

672
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Speaker 3: It doesn't timed up fly. But you know, just walking

673
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: out there on the field, man, it just seemed like

674
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: it was yesterday and.

675
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Speaker 2: You look like you could still.

676
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I appreciate that.

677
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, But it just seemed like yesterday, man,

678
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: I was, I was in the locker room, I was

679
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: going out there in the field. So again that's just

680
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: another message like you just don't know when that time's

681
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: gonna come when.

682
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: You when you have to hang them up, you know,

683
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: playing safety. You know, look at the colts of a

684
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: player like Nick Cross, you know, drafted last year in

685
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Speaker 2: the third round. All the talent in the world, I mean,

686
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: just a physical specimen, but obviously needs a little bit

687
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: of time to adapt and get used to the mental

688
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: side of things. What's he going through for you? When

689
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Speaker 2: did you feel like the mental side of playing safety

690
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: in the National Football League really clicked and things slowed

691
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Speaker 2: down for you.

692
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Speaker 3: It's funny you bring him up. He just asked me

693
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: that question on the field, perf. He just asked me,

694
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: and I told him my first and second year was

695
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: the biggest growth I feel I had throughout my career.

696
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Speaker 2: And that's exactly where he is.

697
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Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, yep.

698
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Speaker 3: So just again what we just talked about, not knowing

699
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Speaker 3: what to do, Like, you know, my first year I

700
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: was coming in, I knew my playbook and I was

701
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: going to play football, but as far as you know,

702
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: off the field, taking care of my body, creating a routine,

703
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: like that's how That's why I feel like, you know,

704
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: that's when you become become a pro. You know, it's

705
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: you know, you're getting in the playbook, you're studying, you're

706
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: doing this, you're doing different things. So for year one,

707
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Speaker 3: the year two, I would hope he would make his

708
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: biggest jump at the position. And obviously for him, you know,

709
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Speaker 3: rookie rookie year, you know, in the defense, you know,

710
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: got new head coach coming in. But for him, I

711
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: think he could be in a really good spot where

712
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Speaker 3: he cans go out there and you can go play ball.

713
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Speaker 7: Now, the game is always evolving. During your time, you

714
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 7: saw quarterbacks look different in all sizes. The Colts took

715
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Speaker 7: a guy and Anthony Richards and fourth overall all these

716
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 7: intangibles from a defensive side, how what makes him so difficult?

717
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Speaker 7: And what are you gonna be able to help? You know,

718
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 7: if you're if you got some guys that are asking, hey,

719
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Speaker 7: what do I do to find this? What would you

720
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Speaker 7: kind of tell them?

721
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Speaker 4: Man?

722
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Speaker 3: First of all, it's just it's measurables. Right, So for me,

723
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: I was at best five eleven two oh five, and

724
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Speaker 3: you know he's sitting there with six six four to

725
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Speaker 3: forty five. So like you know, seeing him in the

726
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: open field, like that's like a right, like free gb ya,

727
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Speaker 3: what I need to do this?

728
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Speaker 2: Right?

729
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: But then he's very very he's very mobile. Right, So.

730
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Speaker 3: As a defender, you know, we say, you know in

731
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 3: our division, we had Vince Young, right. Vince Young was

732
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 3: very mobile, a big quarterback, and we had to take

733
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Speaker 3: time during the week to draw rustling so he wouldn't

734
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Speaker 3: you know, beat you in the rustlings and things of

735
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 3: that nature.

736
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Speaker 4: So as a defense, when.

737
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Speaker 3: You have a guy that's that that's he's that big

738
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: and he can move, it definitely gives you some some

739
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 3: things to worry about and to think about. But for him,

740
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 3: you know, I think he's he has a good system

741
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: around him. Yeah, the coaching staff, yeah, yeah, you know,

742
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: Reggie and receiving room, getting to receive was ready, have

743
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: a great running back.

744
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 4: Old line is solid.

745
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 3: So for him, in my mind, just thinking about you know,

746
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: just playing football, you don't have to throw too much

747
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 3: at him at first, you know, just let him grow

748
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: and lean on the run game and see what happens.

749
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Speaker 4: You know.

750
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 2: Trying to draw comparisons to when you play to now.

751
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: I think going into your seventh season, was that twenty

752
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: twelve season kind of that transition, new GM, new head coach,

753
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback. It's kind of what's going on right now

754
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 2: with the new regime and the coaching staff and a

755
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback and a guy going into his seventh season

756
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: like a guy like the Forest Buckner. He's been here

757
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: where he's been in the NFL a long time, He's established,

758
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: just like you were. Do you remember much about that

759
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: transition that offseason between eleven and twelve and the advice

760
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: that maybe you gave Andrew Luck that had seemingly the

761
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: weight of the world on his shoulders, trying to be

762
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Speaker 2: the face of a franchise kind of like what Anthony

763
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: Richardson's going through right now? How did you try to

764
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: help Andrew in twenty twelve dealing with all that?

765
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was that was different too, where I

766
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: think that situation was totally different because of the guys

767
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 3: we still had in the locker room. You still had,

768
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: you know, regulating myself, Robert Matt. We still had a

769
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 3: core nucleus of what the other what the previous regime

770
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: had built, right, So and then you talk about Luck

771
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 3: like luck was different, Like luck was different right where

772
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: we still talk about it to this day.

773
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 4: Where he didn't step up. He didn't obviously with the.

774
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: Stanford of how they're semesters were his first day here,

775
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: like he was coming out here, making checks, putting guys

776
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: in places. So we understood, like, Okay, we got something

777
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: different here, you know. So not to put that pressure

778
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 3: on Anthony, but you know, I think it was it

779
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: was a little different, you know, And I think again,

780
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 3: we always in a comparison world where we were trying

781
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: to compare on one to the other, and the coach

782
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: we dealt with a lot of a lot of stuff

783
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: last year.

784
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.

785
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: So again, I just think it's a different different positions,

786
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 3: But I think we're in a good position.

787
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, to to to do some good things.

788
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: You know, you watched the Colts last year, right, so

789
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: you saw, just like everybody else, the four twelve and one,

790
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: And you're also privy to the amount of talent that's

791
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 2: on this team, this roster, this team, it's not four

792
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 2: twelve and one, Like, how close are the Colts considering

793
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: they've got a new head coach now and potentially a

794
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback.

795
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: Coach Dunee always said it death by inches, man. Yeah,

796
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: that's that's that's no.

797
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: It lost six games by one score and three games

798
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: by one point.

799
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: Exactly, right, So that's that separates the great teams from

800
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: the good team, the good teams from the bad team.

801
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: So they're right there, and again you know, you you

802
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,959
Speaker 3: bring in a coach that's going that's going to create

803
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: this culture, a winning atmosphere. Not saying the preacher gyme didn't,

804
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: but you know, that's what it's all about. And all

805
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: it takes is one game at a time, guys to

806
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: build that continuity with one another.

807
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 4: And I think I think we'll be good this year.

808
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: All right, I know you gotta run. We got to

809
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: get you out of here before we do.

810
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 4: Though.

811
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Speaker 2: Hype up the podcast, The Man Demand Podcast with yourself

812
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: and former Colts YEP cornerback in Safety Darius Butler. Hype

813
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: it up? Where can we find it?

814
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 4: So you can find it anywhere you watch it.

815
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: Listen to your podcast that again myself answer one Bathay

816
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: and my co host, former coach player Darius Butler. Demanded

817
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: Man Podcast were live on YouTube every Monday, sometimes on

818
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: Thursday at ten o'clock Eastern. So again, tap into it's come, come.

819
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: It's good stuff to us, it's good stuff and it's

820
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: spawned from COVID. Right, you guys got together during the shutdown.

821
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it got during the sudden Now we talked about

822
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 3: them the way to the head to the studio, that's

823
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: where it was born.

824
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely Antoine Bethay, one of the all time greats, one

825
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: of our all time favorites, back in this studio, back

826
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: in the building, enlightening the Colts rookies. I appreciate you

827
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Speaker 2: making the time for us and continue to have.

828
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Speaker 4: A great summer. Right, appreciate you, thanks for having me.

829
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Speaker 2: That's Antoine Bethey. We're back here on the podcast Live

830
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Speaker 2: if you will with JJ Stekobitz Layer over tonight. Matt Taylor.

831
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: Always a fantastic conversation with Antoine Bethey. Very well spoken.

832
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 2: That's why you usould check him out on the mand

833
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: Man Podcast, like you just mentioned, with Darius Butler, another

834
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Speaker 2: former Cult who's been on this podcast many times in

835
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: the past. That's wherever you get your podcast, check it

836
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Speaker 2: out The Man Demand Pod with Antoine Betheay and Darius Butler.

837
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Speaker 2: All Right, to close out, let's talk about some injuries

838
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: or I should say, update the health of the Colts

839
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: going into week two of the OTAs. The Colts still,

840
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 2: obviously like every other team, dealing with lingering injuries and

841
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: some rehabs to monitors, so guys that were not going

842
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 2: last week. Linebacker Shaquille Leonard still dealing with that back injury,

843
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 2: Rigaberto Sanchez the achilles that he injured in training camp

844
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: last year, running back Jonathan Taylor with that ankle problem

845
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: had surgery in the off season. The Colts are being

846
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: cautious with him. Tight end Drew o Tree dealing with

847
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 2: the knee that was an ACL tear in training camp

848
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: last year, and then rookie cornerback Juju Brints dealing with

849
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: that wrist that he had surgery on right after the combine.

850
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: As far as Leonard and Sanchez, Shane Steiken said, those

851
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: guys are doing well, They're progressing, but no timetable there.

852
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: Josh Downs was out with a minor injury, as was

853
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: Titan Jalannie Woods quote. He's got a little hamstring deal there,

854
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: according to Shane Steiken. And also starting right tackle Brayden

855
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: Smith is rehabbing a leg injury and did not practice

856
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: last Thursday during the OTA period. Also, wide receiver congratulations

857
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Junior not present. His wife gave birth to

858
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: their second child and first son. So congratulation to the

859
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: Michael Pittman klan as mich Yes, indeed, So with that,

860
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: let's start with the tackle situation we talked about Brayden

861
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: Smith Freelan running with the first team offense at right

862
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 2: tackle in place of break Smith good sign. I would

863
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: say for his ability layer to play right away, be

864
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: a guy that the Colts can count on. That Swiss

865
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: Army and I play right side, play left side of

866
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: the tackle position kind of bodes well for his acclamation

867
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 2: process going into his first year. Guy the Colts trust right.

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Speaker 6: Away, And it's encouraging not just the fact that he

869
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 6: is running in that position with the starters right now

870
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 6: while Braden is working his way back, but also encouraging

871
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 6: for the much desperately needed depth at offensive line. That's

872
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 6: one of the areas of specialness. Yeah, one of the

873
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 6: areas of weakness that this team has had really the

874
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 6: last two seasons if you think about it. So I

875
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 6: think that it's encouraging for a number of different reasons

876
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 6: for Blake Freeland, especially being that you did spend a

877
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 6: great deal of you know, draft capital at that position.

878
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 6: So that's a guy who you do want to be

879
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 6: a contributor in whatever fashion that is sooner rather than later.

880
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 2: And then with Shaq Leonard jj uh still not going

881
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: out there in OTAs with the first team defense at

882
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: what point do we start getting concerned. I mean, do

883
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: we need to see him on the field at all

884
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: this spring to feel good about war that warm and

885
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: fuzzy feeling about Shaq Lennard going back into this defense.

886
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: When should our eyebrows start to raise? Officially, Yeah, I mean.

887
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 5: I think I get why there's more scrutiny on Shack

888
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 5: at this point of the year, just given what he's

889
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 5: gone through over the last year. But removing that, it's

890
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 5: a guy not practicing during OTAs who cares like that?

891
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 5: That's how I feel. I just I never can get

892
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 5: myself worked up about someone not participating in OTAs because

893
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 5: of an injury.

894
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 6: I just like, I can't do man, I am, I'm concerned.

895
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 5: I'm saying it, but I have to add back in

896
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 5: the rest of the concern on it, knowing what he's

897
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 5: been through like that, My baseline is just so dismissive

898
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 5: of that.

899
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: I mean, normally, yes, normally yes, right, I agree.

900
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 5: With right, yes, So I'm I'm still trying to gauge

901
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 5: where I'm at on that, but I think I'm still

902
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 5: leaning more toward like, I'll raise my eyebrows if you

903
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 5: get to training camp and he's not there.

904
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 2: Yet seventy four snaps total for Shaq Leonard last year.

905
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: And this is a guy, like we said, he just

906
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 2: hasn't played a whole lot of football, either offseason football,

907
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: regular season football, preseason football. Just hasn't played a whole

908
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: lot since what January of twenty twenty two, and.

909
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 6: When he's played, hasn't played healthy in about three years.

910
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: So in some ways, this is kind of like year

911
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: one for Shaq Leonard in Gus Bradley's defense. Now, maybe

912
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: not mentally in terms of knowing the playbook, but just

913
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: being out there and leading the defense and being the

914
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: vocal leader on the field while the live bullets are

915
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: going during the regular season. I think some ways it

916
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: might feel like it's the first time for Leonard to

917
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: do that with Gus Bradley as his guy on the sidelines.

918
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 6: I think it's important because Shack is a guy who

919
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 6: gets better win playing. He just is a guy who

920
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 6: had such a great rookie season because he played, and

921
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 6: he played in every game and contributed in every game.

922
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 6: So I think just for his level of confidence and

923
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 6: comfort and just overall kind of cohesiveness with the rest

924
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 6: of the group, he thrives in being out there and

925
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 6: in contributing, and even when he was kind of on

926
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 6: those pitch counts in certain scenarios with injury, I think

927
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 6: that was hard for him to wrestle with to have

928
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 6: to have a limitation. I think all of this is concerning,

929
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 6: and I think he was a little bit. I haven't

930
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 6: had this conversation with him, but he's pretty candid in

931
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 6: how he has struggled mentally with the time period that

932
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 6: he has not been with his team. Even though he's

933
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 6: out on the practice, he's in the meeting room. That

934
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 6: isn't where That isn't where he's at his best. He's

935
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 6: at his best when he is out there on the

936
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 6: field and he's barking and he's energizing the other guys

937
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 6: and he's punching the ball out taking the ball exactly.

938
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 6: So I do I think it is I I think

939
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 6: big picture, there is a plan and this is all

940
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 6: probably on the timetable of what they expected, and because

941
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 6: of the setbacks he has endured in the last two seasons,

942
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 6: they're probably approaching this in a much more pragmatic way.

943
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 6: And JJ, to your point, that's probably why there isn't

944
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 6: a great concern because this is probably what they wanted

945
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 6: instead of rushing him back and pushing through some of

946
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 6: the things. You know, maybe he rushed back last fall

947
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 6: too quickly, and so what they're taking from the things

948
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 6: that they've learned previously. This is why the way it is.

949
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 6: But just knowing the athlete that Shaq is, I think

950
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 6: that it is a little bit concerning for how long

951
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 6: it's going to take him to get up to speed,

952
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 6: because even if he's in training camp, he's probably not

953
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 6: playing in the preseason, and then you're going out there

954
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 6: week one and you're expecting him to be back at

955
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 6: one hundred percent level and one hundred percent production. I

956
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 6: think that that's a little bit of a risky expectation

957
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 6: to have.

958
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a really fine line. But I mean,

959
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 5: Shaq himself admitted last year he pushed himself to get

960
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 5: back before he was ready because, like you mentioned, Lara,

961
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 5: he he needs to play like that he needs to

962
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 5: play and it's hard for any football player, but especially

963
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 5: for a guy like Shaq to be told like you shouldn't.

964
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 5: So I have to imagine this is a This is

965
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 5: not a very easy time for Shaq, even just in

966
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 5: these practices right now, right But that kind of what

967
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 5: you mentioned of, like, you got to bring him along slow,

968
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 5: and you got to make sure that however you get

969
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 5: him there, however he gets himself there, that he can

970
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 5: contribute on the field in twenty twenty three for the

971
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 5: Indianapolis Colts, and I'm look, I mean, Shaq's not going

972
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 5: anywhere on this team. He signed a contract extension two

973
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 5: years ago that's going to keep him here for a

974
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 5: long time. And you got to think about as the team,

975
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 5: you gotta think about the long term investment you have

976
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 5: made in this player. It's not just about get him

977
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 5: out there for week one and let's make sure he's ready.

978
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 5: If he is ready for week one, get him out there,

979
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 5: but if he still needs some time, you want to

980
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 5: make sure that when he gets out there, he is

981
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 5: really ready to go.

982
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 6: I'll tell you though, like in a number of different

983
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 6: conversations that I've had with him, nothing hurts him more

984
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 6: than to not contribute to this team and to not

985
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 6: be out there alongside those guys. I mean, it absolutely

986
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 6: devastates him because of the amount of investment he has

987
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 6: as a teammate. It's not so much in his individual

988
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 6: numbers and individual performance, it's the overall good of the team,

989
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 6: and that is something that he struggles with in not

990
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 6: being available and not being out there. So that's going

991
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 6: to be something that he's going to really wrestle with

992
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 6: in terms of if they are trying to pull back

993
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 6: the reins a little bit when we get into the

994
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 6: thick of August.

995
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: Right on September tenth, if Shaq Leonard is healthy and

996
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: he can play, who gives a you know what about

997
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: what happened on May thirtieth, right, But it is a

998
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: topic of conversation just because he has missed that was

999
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: a good song, by the way, just because of the

1000
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: lack of time not on task, if you will, not

1001
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: being able to be out there and considering all that

1002
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 2: was taken away from him and his ability to do

1003
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 2: that the last what eighteen nineteen months.

1004
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 5: I guess my point on this why I kind of

1005
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 5: say who cares? Is I don't think participation in OTA

1006
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 5: practice on May thirtieth is predictive of participation in a

1007
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 5: game that matters.

1008
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: No good point, nor do I good point, nor do

1009
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: I good stuff? Right there, that's a look at the

1010
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: health status and the ongoing rehabs for the Indianapolis Colts.

1011
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 2: We're winding down. Let's get weird. Let's get random, random

1012
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: thought of the week.

1013
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 6: And why is the carpet all went Todd?

1014
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, Marco.

1015
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 6: You guys going out of town, do if it's cold

1016
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 6: there for these vans? Get good cast mileg Shut up?

1017
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 4: Shut up, shut up, shut shut up?

1018
00:48:59,040 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: Is it me? Is a my turn?

1019
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 6: It's you?

1020
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 2: Is it my turn?

1021
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: It's you?

1022
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1023
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is random, but I do

1024
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: have a question for you. I was listening to the

1025
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: radio over the weekend and I don't know if it's

1026
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: a commercial for Airbnb or vrbo, but one of these,

1027
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: you know, rent rent the house of someone else commercials

1028
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 2: or these platforms, and it's promoting the fact that you

1029
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 2: can rent through them and get the entire house and

1030
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: no one stays with you.

1031
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 6: I've seen this, You.

1032
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 2: Get the entire property.

1033
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 5: I stayed in an Airbnb in San Diego once where

1034
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 5: we stayed in like a like a downstairs floor that

1035
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 5: had like everything, but we weren't the only people in

1036
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 5: the house, like the owners were upstairs.

1037
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: Is this a thing?

1038
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 5: There was a thing when I was like.

1039
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: People are renting out their house while they stay and

1040
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: you come and visit and hang out it.

1041
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 5: I mean I think, I think, and Airbnb can contact

1042
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 5: me if I'm wrong about this, because that's a happen

1043
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 5: for vrbo that you're talking about. Okay, but I think Airbnb,

1044
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 5: you can rent out a room as long as it has.

1045
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 2: Like its own entrance, its own quarters. Yeah.

1046
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 5: I have no interest in doing that anymore. But I

1047
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 5: mean when I was, you know, traveling in twenty six

1048
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 5: and trying to save a buck, You're just.

1049
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: Going for the cheapest option, right, Yeah, but but who's

1050
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 2: who wants to go on vacation with someone else in

1051
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: that house? I couldn't believe they were actually promoting it

1052
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 2: because I had never heard of it.

1053
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 6: I was a little I was kind of baffled when

1054
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 6: I heard that too. I was like, maybe I'm just unaware,

1055
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 6: and I just I tend to travel to the same

1056
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 6: places a lot, so we have like our go to

1057
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 6: like places where you routinely stay. So I don't think

1058
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 6: that there are that many times that I'm like, oh,

1059
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 6: I need to find a place in San Diego, you know,

1060
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 6: or whatever, and I'm like searching like just aimlessly.

1061
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: Are you ever put in your house on vrbo?

1062
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: No?

1063
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 6: No, no, no, there's there are too many bodies time.

1064
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 6: There's too much mass in my house as it is,

1065
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 6: you know, between between adults and canine, Like, I don't

1066
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 6: know how many more people there's there's a lot of yes,

1067
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 6: So I mean it's it's already like even when like

1068
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 6: my siblings come in town, we're like, oh, man, you know,

1069
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 6: we got to open up the guest room here.

1070
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: And make it work out to wash these sheets.

1071
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1072
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 6: Well, and we've been storing stuff in the guest room,

1073
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 6: so we got to work everything around. So yeah, No,

1074
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 6: I I don't know, that's an interesting one.

1075
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: Are you letting anybody sleep in your bed?

1076
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 4: No?

1077
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 5: No, that that that part of it. To me, that's

1078
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 5: a that's a non starter, like changing out your house.

1079
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 6: Like no, no, people I've heard. I've heard though, like

1080
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 6: this past weekend, if you have a house in proximity

1081
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 6: to Speedway, Indiana.

1082
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 4: There you go.

1083
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 6: You could probably pay.

1084
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: Your mortgage for the year, you know, like off of

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Speaker 2: that's like selling one game and then getting your entire

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Speaker 2: season ten.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Or like when the Super Bowl was in town in

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00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, someone because I live at the time, I

1090
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: lived eight minutes from downtown, and someone said rent it

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00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: out and make two thousand dollars a night. And I'm like,

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00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: back then, I was like, is this a thing?

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00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: Right?

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00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: This is right? When uber is getting gone right, when

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00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: like the whole like we share everything mentality in society,

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00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, who's doing this? Who who wants strangers in

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00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: their house just destroying everything and going through stuff? What

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Speaker 2: are we doing now?

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Speaker 6: I will tell you so. My coach from college, Judy Wilson,

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00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 6: her husband is a massive Packers fan, and they bought

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00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 6: two houses that are walking distance from lambeau Field that

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00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 6: are just investment properties. Wow, just solely as like rentals,

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00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 6: and so that's all, oh my gosh. But during the season,

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00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 6: it's the it's probably rented out like fair, I mean

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Speaker 6: a year in advance, like as soon as yeah.

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Speaker 5: Green Bay by the way, Green Bay. Yeah, you gotta

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Speaker 5: go to Appleton, right for the NFL Draft. Everyone's gonna

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00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 5: be staying at Appleton. Yeah, let's go party anyone else.

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Speaker 6: When you hear Appleton, Wisconsin, do you think of Perfect Strangers?

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Speaker 6: Cousin Larry Appleton, Like that's the first thing that just

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00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 6: pops in my mind, like child of the nineties right there,

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Speaker 6: I think of Balki and Cusin Larry.

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Speaker 5: I think I think of booking a Fairfield in Appleton

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00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 5: and then getting a notice that it was getting changed

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00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 5: to like an America's Best in before covering a Bear's

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00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 5: Packers game and going there in it being just dirty hotel.

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00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 6: It was not the best.

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00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 5: No, it was not the best.

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Speaker 6: Some friends of ours they do a bike trip and

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Speaker 6: so they bike all across like several states, and I

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Speaker 6: do know that there have been times when they're like,

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00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 6: oh yeah, we'll just like get a room for the

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Speaker 6: night in the house, so like because they'll camp some.

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Speaker 6: But then they also like, sometimes you want a house

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00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 6: you can go in and shower, and they've done that

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00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 6: and they've had great success with it, and they love

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00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 6: it because you meet there. You meet all kinds of

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00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 6: fascinating people who are like just like oh yeah, open

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00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 6: up my own like, yeah, come on in. They say

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00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 6: it's wonderful.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, would you rather, Matay, if you're traveling,

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00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 5: would you rather stay in a room in a house

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00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 5: where the other people are in the house, or like

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00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 5: a hostel?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I need to get through one night, I

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00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: mean I can, I can stay with someone else, I

1137
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: can stay in a place knowing someone else is there,

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00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: but they're not in the same they don't share the

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00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: same walls with me.

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Speaker 5: The budget part of that, I think comes into into consideration.

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00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 5: Here biking across the country and you're camping half the time,

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00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 5: you probably don't care. If hey, I just need a

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00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 5: place that's.

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00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 6: Got a shower, yeah, yeah, crash for a couple hours

1145
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 6: and shower ways to do it then yeah, But they

1146
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 6: say it's an awesome way to just like meet new people.

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00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,959
Speaker 6: If you're the adventurous type, yes, it's very cool.

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00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. But if I if I, you know, if I'm

1149
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: bringing the kids and I'm setting up the pack and play,

1150
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: get the hell out of here, all right, I need

1151
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: you much say I don't want you there. Yeah, you don't.

1152
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: You don't want us to be there. And likewise, right,

1153
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 2: no one's getting any sleep tonight, I can tell you that,

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00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: all right. H Video wise, this week, Lara, what's coming

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00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 2: down the pike in terms of production.

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00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 6: Will be out of practice every day this week. There

1157
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 6: will be media availability on Friday. We've got the video

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Speaker 6: up for all of our podcasts that are going the

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Speaker 6: uh you know.

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Speaker 2: The person behind the past, Thank you. There we go.

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00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 6: So a lot of that, a lot of that action

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00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 6: coming up.

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Speaker 2: JJ, what are you writing about.

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Speaker 5: I'm mostly using this week to work ahead. Yes, there

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00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 5: isn't meat availability until Friday, so working on some fun

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00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 5: stuff for the summer.

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Speaker 2: M M.

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Speaker 5: Just to keep some fresh content on Colts dot com.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's it's the week after Memorial Day. I

1170
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 5: think everyone's kind of still recovering a little bit from

1171
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 5: the weekend, whether you went to the race or not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, getting ready for summer.

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00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, trying. I'm thinking ahead to summer here too. I

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00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 5: kind of am in that mode now.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, as Lara said, a person behind the pads, that

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00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: podcast series continues that are off the field, you know,

1177
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: personal conversation with Colts players, getting to know them. The

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Speaker 2: only rule is no football conversation, no football topics. This week,

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Speaker 2: our guest is Alec Pierce regarding growing up in a

1180
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 2: very athletic household Lara and the role that sports played

1181
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: and he and his brother's upbringing and the Pierces as

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00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: you chronicled earlier in the offseason, very well represented in

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00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament there.

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00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, and just kind of being the middle child in

1185
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 6: like what was a very interesting like family dynamic. I

1186
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 6: joked that, like you know, Stephanie here Alex's mom like

1187
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 6: the back of her, like you know, Minivan or re

1188
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 6: scuv had to look like a Dick's sporting goods, you know,

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00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 6: and have to get the guys, you know, all their

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00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 6: different sports. You have volleyball nuts back there, and you

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Speaker 6: know everything else, football pads and you know, basketballs and

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00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 6: cleats and everything.

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Speaker 5: When I did when I did that story last season

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00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 5: about it, football never existed. What, yeah, you play professionally?

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00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 4: I asked.

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Speaker 5: I was talking to Ashton Dulan about it, and Alex

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Speaker 5: was kind of like looking over at me, like you're

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00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 5: canna ask me, You're canna ask me? And then he

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Speaker 5: walked away from his locker and I walked somewhere else,

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Speaker 5: and then he came and he found me in the

1201
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 5: locker room later and he goes, by the way, it

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Speaker 5: would be beach volleyball. His mom was volleyball.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, volleyball stud at Northwestern for sure. Yeah, yeah, he was.

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00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 6: It's funny because the other two went the direction of

1205
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 6: basketball obviously, And I was like, wait, do you feel

1206
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 6: like that the volleyball skill set really translated well to football?

1207
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 6: And it obviously happens.

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00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 2: Sucker exactly exactly. Some people out used that fitality, So

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00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: check out Lara's conversation with Alec Pierce a little bit

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Speaker 2: later this week on the person behind the pads last Words.

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Speaker 2: Back on Friday, Jeffrey Gorman joins me from parts unknown. Literally,

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00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: I have no idea where he is, Like, where in

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00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: the world is Carmen always venture Thursday night, I send

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00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 2: that text, like what time and where he at? We'll

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Speaker 2: figure out the time zones later, right, but we'll do

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00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: that breaking down a week two of OTA's and we'll

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00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: examine the Colts tight end group going into training camp. Guys,

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00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: fantastic job, per usual. JJ Stankowitz LERA Overton. Summertime is here,

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Speaker 2: like we talked about, temperatures are on the rise, and

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Speaker 2: we're with you all summer long. We're talking Colts football

1221
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: all the way up until training camp in late July.

1222
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Speaker 2: OTAs roll on this week and we're back for another conversation,

1223
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: back at it next Tuesday, getting you ready then for

1224
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: the off season workout program to come to a conclusion,

1225
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: and of course Mini camp June thirteenth through the fifteenth.

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Speaker 2: Until then. Thanks for listening, everybody, This is the Official

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Speaker 2: Colts podcast, brought to you by When Bets Colts Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: So long for JJ Lara. I'm Matt Taylor. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you next Tuesday.