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Speaker 1: from welcome into what's burning. I am here with oh man,

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Speaker 1: career because even with the Lakers, once he accepted the

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Speaker 1: role and we praised him a lot on this show

426
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Speaker 1: for what he has done this season, he still wasn't

427
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Speaker 1: It wasn't great shot selection, He wasn't always making the

428
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Speaker 1: right decisions out on the court. Do you guys feel

429
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Speaker 1: that he is up for playing with this level of guys,

430
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Speaker 1: really doing what they need him to do as a

431
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Speaker 1: point guard, because that's the need that they have. I

432
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Speaker 1: do race because they definitely need help rebounding and he's

433
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Speaker 1: one of the best rebounded point guards ever. Also, also,

434
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Speaker 1: I think he'll love to be in this role because

435
00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,399
Speaker 1: he's wanted rightchel the best feeling in any job that

436
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 1: you have is being wanted by the people there. Right,

437
00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 1: It's hard to play when you when you know you

438
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,760
Speaker 1: got teammates talk about it behind you back, when you

439
00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,840
Speaker 1: got the front office, think about trading you, when you

440
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,120
Speaker 1: got all kinds of stuff going on. So it's hard

441
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Speaker 1: to perform like that. But when you got an organization

442
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,280
Speaker 1: and you got star players on the team that want

443
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,160
Speaker 1: you there, that know what you're capable of, it's gonna

444
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,720
Speaker 1: be easier to buy in. And that's why I say

445
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Speaker 1: I'm happy to Russ because it's gonna be an easy

446
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 1: situation for him to fall into. Or you gotta just

447
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 1: control the team. You gotta get the ball to Paul

448
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,720
Speaker 1: kawhire rebound and that's what he's best at. Yeah, for me,

449
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna do whatever it takes because the

450
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,000
Speaker 1: spirit is back. He's like like Jack said, his spirit

451
00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 1: is back. When your spirit is broken and you know,

452
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 1: mess with and you don't know who's who, and you know,

453
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,200
Speaker 1: like they in my corner, they're not they're talking about

454
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Speaker 1: behind my back. Whatever it is, he's gonna wear such pride.

455
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 1: He's gonna play hard and he ever has and he

456
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 1: knows where he's at he knew the whispers of what

457
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,120
Speaker 1: people were saying, like this is gonna be a golden opportunity,

458
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Speaker 1: not only when a champion ship to revive his career

459
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 1: and put him into place where he gets the respect

460
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,920
Speaker 1: he's so deserves, because what he's done aving and triple,

461
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 1: we never thought we'd see that again for years. Like

462
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Speaker 1: Russ is a Russ is a top seventy five guy,

463
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Speaker 1: without a doubt, with his spirits back. T Low's gonna

464
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Speaker 1: empower him. He's not gonna hold he doesn't do well

465
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Speaker 1: against him. I think he's gonna show up and show out.

466
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Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to I think t lou is

467
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 1: the right coach for this situation. And we praise Darvin

468
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 1: ham because Darvin Hamm was the right one to get

469
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Speaker 1: Russ to buy into coming off the bench. Because there's

470
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Speaker 1: not too many coaches. Maybe we can name just those

471
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Speaker 1: two that he really would have bought into and respected

472
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Speaker 1: enough to come in and buy into that role. Russ

473
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Speaker 1: is gonna be Russ. And I think you know, Rachel,

474
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Speaker 1: you said, you know they're asking him to get downhill,

475
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Speaker 1: which he's great at, and fine shooters, which he's always

476
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Speaker 1: been good at. So if that's what his ask, and

477
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Speaker 1: then like Jack and Jamal are saying, you know, this

478
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Speaker 1: is a second chance, this is a revival. Hopefully he

479
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: can revive his career because you know, being quite honest,

480
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: you know, there's probably not a lot of teams. I

481
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 1: think Russ's future is really going to hinge on this

482
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Speaker 1: next twenty five game, plus this playoff run, because you know,

483
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Speaker 1: there's just once they start talking a certain way about

484
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 1: you and Jack, we could offend these motherfuckers all they want,

485
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: but the GMS and they start feeling a certain way.

486
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Speaker 1: I really think this is one of the most critical

487
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Speaker 1: runs of Russell Westbrook's career if he wants to play

488
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Speaker 1: beyond this, you know what I mean. So I'm with

489
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Speaker 1: the rest of the guys. I think he's going to

490
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Speaker 1: be completely bought in. I think he is going to

491
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: be an asset to this team. And you know, with

492
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Speaker 1: the other moves the Clippers made, this is definitely We've

493
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: been saying it all year. I mean, it hinges on

494
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Speaker 1: Kawai's availability, but this is the deepest team in the

495
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Speaker 1: NBA and they have a great shot of not only

496
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Speaker 1: coming out of the West. And that's saying a lot

497
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Speaker 1: with Phoenix and these other teams. But they have a

498
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Speaker 1: great opportunity to win a championship this year. WHOA, Okay,

499
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Speaker 1: so that's high praise. I was just gonna say, look,

500
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: and they climb up past fourth. Right now, they're fourth.

501
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: They've got the Nuggets, grizz and Kings ahead of them.

502
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Speaker 1: And as you say, the Sons are going to be

503
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Speaker 1: making a move in this last the season. The MAVs

504
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: would like to be making a move. You think their

505
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Speaker 1: championship contenders may absolutely, but the three teams in front

506
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Speaker 1: of him. You know, with all due respect to all

507
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: three of those teams, we have to see it in

508
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. We've seen you know, Kawhi's won championships pgs.

509
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Speaker 1: Taking this team to the Western Finals without Kawhi, you know,

510
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: had lost Kawhi. So you know, you add these solid

511
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Speaker 1: I really love the Mason Plumley pick up, you know

512
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Speaker 1: what I mean, just super solid, big plays, hard, does

513
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Speaker 1: his job. Eric Gordon's getting another chance. Bone Higlands is

514
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Speaker 1: a wild card that's probably gonna win you a game

515
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: or two, win the playoffs. Just off dropping thirty five

516
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 1: forty you know, possibly thirty thirty five points. So um,

517
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Speaker 1: Kawai's health is going to be critical for this team.

518
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Speaker 1: But I love the moves they make. And again, I

519
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: love this Russ opportunity because we are all just such

520
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: fans of Russ and I just think he deserves to

521
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Speaker 1: go out the way he can in what better way

522
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Speaker 1: than to really catch fire with this team. You know,

523
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Speaker 1: sign a two or three year deal and you know,

524
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Speaker 1: finish at home. All Right, you guys backing him up

525
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: on Championship Contender? Are you backing him up? Yeah? I

526
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 1: mean yeah, you got you got rush All and a

527
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: healthy Kawhi and the experience to t Lou I give

528
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: him a shout of rage and then you know what,

529
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: just imagine that Russ bringing helping the Clippers bring that

530
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Speaker 1: first championship home. I think that'll be a great fan Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like the move. I like their team before the moves.

532
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: I love their team afterwards. And people forget, Yeah, people

533
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: forget like Kawai. We don't see him enough to be

534
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Speaker 1: like he's top five. I know in the playoffs he's

535
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: top five, Like he's the top five playoffs without doubt.

536
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Speaker 1: Like everything he brings to the table is what you want,

537
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: Like Russ is gonna bring toughness. He's gonna bring grit,

538
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna hold them dudes accountable because players in the

539
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: locker room look at Russ like we do, so we

540
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: hold him to the highest standard, and you know he's

541
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Speaker 1: not going to back down. So to MAT's point, the

542
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 1: teams in front of him, I'm not really scared. If

543
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm the Clippers. It's like we can go win a

544
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: game anywhere with this croup and like Bones Highland, those

545
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: dudes are underrated. They can go when you a quarter

546
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: to get the stars back on track. I love the

547
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: Clippers what they're doing. Like I said, I just think

548
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: those teams in front we have to see it in

549
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you know. I mean Sacrament is completely new

550
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: to this space. You know, Denver, I say before, you know,

551
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: similar to what the Jazz were doing a few years ago.

552
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: Great in the regular season, we have to see it

553
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. And then Memphis. Memphis has done a

554
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: lot of talking. We got to see wins in the playoffs.

555
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Rachel, Well, I just Denver fans are listening

556
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: to y'all and they're screaming right now at the TV,

557
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: being like we made the Western Conference Finals. I mean

558
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: this team has had some experience. Yeah they haven't gone

559
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: all the way. They have a shot. They have a

560
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: shot too, but you know they haven't done it as well. Race.

561
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: You know, you got the back to back MVP, possibly

562
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: three time MVP and yeah, and you can't get to

563
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: the finals. Like, so that team hasn't shown hasn't shown anything, Race,

564
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: but of being a dominant regular season team. If they

565
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: show us something this season, then maybe they'll continue to

566
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: be in that conversation. But with that said, I do

567
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: like what they got going on this year, Like they

568
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: got everyone's healthy. You know, they got the pieces they

569
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: feel like they need. So the Western Conference, we haven't

570
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: even talked about Phoenix. Like Golden State, you always got

571
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: to give them a chance because they got experience. It's

572
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: going to be a battle to come out of the

573
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Speaker 1: West this year. Rache, Who do you trust more in

574
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: a playoffs here if they're messed up? Would you trust

575
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: this new look Clippers team or would you trust Memphis

576
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: or New Orleans or Denver. Oh, I'm trusting the Clippers

577
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: over Memphis, especially with the experience. I'm trusting them. I

578
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: just trust them over New Orleans. I want to see

579
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Speaker 1: what the Nuggets turn into I know they're not the

580
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: popular trendy pick. I'm I'm blown away by this Sun's lineup,

581
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: and I think that if they can play together and

582
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: stay healthy, I think it's it's it's ridiculous to sleep

583
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: on them, even where they are in the bracket right now.

584
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: But I'm not willing to write the Nuggets off. They've

585
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: got the what's going to be the three time MVP,

586
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: and they're a good team, and they've been the top

587
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: seed for a reason, and I just I don't know.

588
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people are always like, oh,

589
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, Denver, they haven't shown us that they can

590
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: do it yet. They haven't shown you you can win.

591
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: But they've They've got some pretty impressive stuff going three

592
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: time MVP and about seventy five pick and rows in

593
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yea, the figure that out defense and played

594
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: I've never even played defense, but I'm telling you, I

595
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: know what's coming. I wouldn't you know. I wasn't doing that. Jamal.

596
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 1: Jamal be quick to go on a tear and then

597
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: end up on a dude like get me four a sec,

598
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: give me for a second, Well, switch off from straight.

599
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: But I didn't know what time it is. Give me

600
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: a pouting here, so I still look good. What's that

601
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: like during a playoff game when you feel like that?

602
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: Oh man, I know the whole world's watching. I just

603
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: ran off age of ten and I know I may

604
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: give up six backs. Look me, get a couple of fouls,

605
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: a lock up, and everybody wins. All right, we get

606
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: our act back together. I want to talk to you

607
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: guys about pat Ev signing with the Bulls. That is

608
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: his hometown team. But guys, he mentioned on this Potty

609
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: also had a chance to go to the Warriors, and

610
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: I wanted to read you the quote he said. It

611
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: was between Golden State and the Bulls. Obviously, it's always

612
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: good to play with a lot of great talent and

613
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: Golden State, but you know there's a lot of guards

614
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: over there. I figured I could make up playoff pushed

615
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: with the Bulls right now and kind of pop them

616
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: up a little bit. The East is kind of weak,

617
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: he said. He said, I'm excited. I get to pack

618
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: my Sunday school, I get to take my baby girl

619
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Speaker 1: to school. I get to pick them up. I get

620
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: to wrap my city on my chest. So there's a

621
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: lot there. Love that he's home. With the kids. Big

622
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: fan of that. Um, let's start with him saying the

623
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: East is kind of weak thoughts. You know, if you know,

624
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: you know Pat Bab're gonna always throw something out there.

625
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: You know, he always gonna rough or little feathers. But

626
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: I think the best thing about it is he's he

627
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: got to get a chance to go home and play

628
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: in Chicago, be with his family, like you said, pick

629
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: his kids up from school and stuff like that. This

630
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: might we talk about the last couple of games matter

631
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: for somebody's career. He's in. He's in this situation too.

632
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: He'd been bounced around a lot, and you know, he really,

633
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: he really hasn't been a fact on any team besides talking,

634
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: you know. So I love I love Pats energy and

635
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: effort in his love for the game, but he's not

636
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: productive anywhere. And if he gets a chance to end

637
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: his career in Chicago, if he doesn't play well, it's

638
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: a good look. Yeah. I think I think for Pat

639
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: his value really is with young teams if you're trying

640
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: to show how to work and how to you know,

641
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: be a pro, or teams that are right there in

642
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: the championship, like really championship contenders and he can just

643
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: be a good vet locker room guy, holding guys accountable.

644
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how he fits in with the guys

645
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: in the middle, with the teams in the middle, you know,

646
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: and how he provides that kind of value on the court.

647
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: But for him personally going home, you know, obviously we

648
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: just saw the news Alonzo Ball being on all year.

649
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: If he can get some minutes at the point guard position,

650
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: playing off at duros and playing off a zach Lavine

651
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: guys like that, you know, I think that's where he's

652
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: best suited. Uh yeah, I mean I agree with both

653
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: these guys. First of all, it's interesting, Matt. I mean

654
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: we've we've talked about this before. Do you pick at

655
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: that time in your career. Do you want to go

656
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: to a place like Golden State, which you guys keep

657
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: telling me every week still has a chance to win

658
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: the title, or Chicago, which we all know. I know

659
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: he's saying, oh, I want to give them a bit

660
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: of a pop. They're not contenders. So what do you

661
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: think of him making that decision? I mean, I just

662
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: Golden States backcourt is Pool Curry Thompson, and I know

663
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm probably missing some other people Devincenzo's Devincenzo's been playing well.

664
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: So it's just like it's loaded over there. Uh, you know,

665
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: you have a chance to go home. And where's Chicago sit?

666
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm not from. Are they middle of the pack? Where

667
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: they at right now? They need a lot of help?

668
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: Producer Nate. What's Chicago ranked right now? Seated? Do you

669
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: guys know they need a lot of help? Okay, Chicago's

670
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: eleven right now. I mean, I get playing time versus

671
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: not playing time. I get it. But that's the question

672
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: right when you're at this stage of your career. I'm

673
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: always fascinated by guys who I mean. Vince Carter was

674
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: always really open toward the end of his career. He said,

675
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: I want to go where I can play. He would

676
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: go on these teams and he said form B he said,

677
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: I know everyone thinks I need a ring. He's like,

678
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: I don't need a ring. I still want to hoop

679
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: and play basketball. So it's kind of a little bit

680
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: of what Pat Bev has decided here he's going for

681
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: the minutes. I was just curious what you guys thought about.

682
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: I just think his journey has been incredible, know what

683
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: I mean, It's been well documented what he had to pay.

684
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: It pay out of his contract to get in the NBA,

685
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: and and and he's made some good money. And now

686
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the time, rich I think he

687
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: knows the clock is ticking on his career, Like why

688
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: not get it, Like, you know, Golden State, although we

689
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: feel like they have a great shot, you know, why

690
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: not go home? Why not go home and be that

691
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: little push that maybe helps them get in the playoffs

692
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: when no one's saying they're gonna win. But be that

693
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: little you know, go home and be able to help

694
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: them make the playoffs. So I'm happy for him because

695
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: we all know, you know how much time this game

696
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: takes away from your family. I mean that's why I

697
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: retired my first year into a three year deal when

698
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough to win a Golden State, because

699
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: I just had missed my kids so much and I

700
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: wasn't getting to see him. So, like Jamal says, I mean,

701
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: you know, you can't pay for happiness. Uh, he's happy.

702
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: He's home, he's at the crib. And if this is

703
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: his last team and he can play here a couple

704
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: of years, I mean, it's a it's it's a you know,

705
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: an amazing accomplishment what he's accomplished and been able to

706
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: do in this league. And then too, you know, everybody

707
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: goal likes to win the championship. You know, that was

708
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: my goal. So a lot of guys, a lot of

709
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: some guys come in to the league, right you want

710
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: to make a name for itself, make some money and

711
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: get on. You know what I'm saying. I was blessed

712
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: to win one early where I didn't have to worry

713
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: about that towards the end of my career. But a

714
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: lot of guys, you know, I know, I've heard I

715
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: heard it from a lot of guys don't come in

716
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: the league thinking they want to be a champion. And

717
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: that's what separates a lot of people. What what's killing

718
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: me though, is the fact that some of these ventures

719
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: thirty four, thirty five, and we're talking about them being

720
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: out the league like crazy, Yeah, they're needed, Like where's

721
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: Mellow at right where's Isaiah at right now? Like all

722
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: these guys are needed? Like how can you learn to

723
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: be a pro and be a vet if you don't

724
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: have that around you? Like I called the Rising Stars

725
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: game other day and the G League game, the Rising

726
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: Stars team average age was just as young as the

727
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 1: G League team. Like who's who's leading who? Crazy? It's crazy,

728
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: So we need those vests. These guys got real careers,

729
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: not just being a league and make mistakes and not

730
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: really be able to learn from and be held accountable. Yeah,

731
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: it's it's it's with all the respect, it's the blind

732
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: lead the blind because these young kids, they've never been

733
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: through nothing. And then if you can't produce on the

734
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: court early are they keeping you? You know, we can

735
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: name Iguadala, we can name uh Udonis, but outside of that,

736
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: like vets that aren't giving you minutes or aren't producing,

737
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: they don't have those no more. But we have talked

738
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 1: about this with Charles. But you know, when we all

739
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: came in the league, there was guys, whether you know,

740
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: thirty six, thirty seven, thirty eight, whether they are playing

741
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: or being productive on the court, they were just as

742
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: important off the court. And sometimes they're bridge between the

743
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: players and the coaches. They're ogs for the younger players.

744
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: They just there's so much quality, you know, there's just

745
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: so many good things. They bring two teams, but just

746
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: the league has transitioned out of that. Owners have transitioned

747
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: out of pay and they'd rather, you know, pay potentials.

748
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: They pay, you know, they they'd rather pay potential. Yeah.

749
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: The CBA is a little different now too, and interesting

750
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: as they sort of get a new one together whether

751
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: they're going to correct that at all, But doesn't look

752
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: like it. Feels like the league is still trending really young.

753
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: If you have some old guys still going places, Kevin Love,

754
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: we call them an elder statesman at this point. Maybe

755
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: Cal five time All Star, Olympic champion, of course, NBA champ.

756
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: He'll bring a ton of experience to Miami's locker room.

757
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: Does he change your opinion on the heats playoff chances though, Jamal,

758
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: what do you think? Not for me? I think honestly

759
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: they need what he brings to the table. I'm just

760
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: not sure how much he can give, especially and we

761
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: all know Miami's notorious for how they work from practice.

762
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: They don't care if you're ten years in fifteen years,

763
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: in two years, and you're gonna work and for k

764
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: Love and guy like that. He's accomplished so much and

765
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: played heavy minus all these years. I'm not sure that's

766
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: a spot I would have went to. I think he

767
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: could help him win a playoff game, but I wouldn't

768
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: look for him to help, like be contributed in the

769
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: playoffs every single game. Not at this point. I think

770
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: I kind of think this is a good move for

771
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: kay Love because I feel like he feels like he's

772
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: been wrestling in the last couple of years and he

773
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: wanted to give it another shot to win the chip.

774
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: I think this is a good shot for Miami because

775
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: now Bam can be the center and they have a

776
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: really a real four that could split it, that could

777
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: spread the court and also be big and help rebound.

778
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: I like he Love. I think this. I think this

779
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: is an opportunity for him to give what he got,

780
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, and to see what he got in Love

781
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: in the tank. Let me say that for him, because

782
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: I think he challenging himself and this is a great

783
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: opportunity because I think he's gonna play a lot, especially

784
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, with that experience, with being able to

785
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: spread the court. I like Kay Love and bound By

786
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: to buy you together in Miami. I think it gives

787
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: him a better shot. I'm not gonna say championship team rate,

788
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: but it gives them a better shot. I mean, I

789
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: just I like what he could bring to the team.

790
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: I just don't know, you know, like Jamal said, I

791
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: don't know how much he has left. Um. I think

792
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: he's a good, good piece. I mean, experience, can shoot

793
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: the ball, h could still rebound, tough, uh tested all

794
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: the things you want in a pick up at this point.

795
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: But like he said, we just have to see how

796
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: much you saw husband to tank. You know, if he

797
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 1: can give them, you know, twenty to twenty five minutes

798
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: and be a you know, fourteen and eight guy, that's

799
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: gonna be huge for them. But you know, we'll have

800
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: to see if that's still in, you know, if he

801
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: still has it. Yeah, I thought Miami missed more like

802
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: I thought they need another premiter score, like somebody at

803
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: the trade their line. Not a buyo guy, but the

804
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: guy at the trade their line. We're like, okay, because

805
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: Jimmy's good be in the robbin. He's good with setting

806
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: guys here, he's good with being a defender. He doesn't

807
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: have to be the focal point of offense. But if bam,

808
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: you know, maybe in foul Tremor doesn't have the goal

809
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: or Jimmy's you know, by same thing, who's that guy?

810
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: Besides Hero can consistently get a bucket when things slow down.

811
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: Miami plays a slow face anyway, Like who's the guy

812
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: that can go get a bucket every single time or

813
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: generate a quality look? And that's why I thought they

814
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: were missing another like third or true third guy to

815
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: be that guy in the primeter. Well, sometimes when you

816
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: can't get what you need, you go get what is available.

817
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: They did here. I do think the three points shooting

818
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: is attractive to them. I mean this is more of

819
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: a fit thing with them. What he does is what

820
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: they need. I don't know if he's going to move

821
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 1: them out of where I think they're sitting at seventh

822
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: right now. It's interesting the Calves are in fourth. I

823
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: mean it's possible that they could end up either seeing

824
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: each other in the playoffs or start jostling each other's

825
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: playoff positioning. So I don't know how that's gonna work out.

826
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: If he's gonna want a little dig at his former team,

827
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, Jamal, you recently said you want Mellow

828
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: back in the league, not just in general, but you

829
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: want him in Phoenix, right, I do talking about all

830
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: guys moving around, Yeah, I think he'd be a perfect

831
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: fit for them, Like the way they'll play. It's not

832
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: gonna be much defense being played anyway. Phoenix is gonna

833
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: be a team to get timely stops. They ain't locking

834
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: up nobody, So why not because I'm saying that, because

835
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna say, oh, he doesn't play defense, like they

836
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: ain't playing defense anyway. They lost their best defenders. Like,

837
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: let's they're gonna get timely stops. Let's get Mellow in

838
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: the league and let him go out in his own terms.

839
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: I feel like whenever a guy's paid that much to

840
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: the game and done that much for the game, he

841
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: should be able to leave how he wants to leave.

842
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: What you're like, twelve or fourteen, fifteen years and more,

843
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: you should be able to leave how you want to leave.

844
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: That's the way to do things. And Mellow deserves to play.

845
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: He did everything that was asking about him the Lakers

846
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: and all. He doesn't want to come off the bench.

847
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: He did that. Oh he's still shooting a hypercentage from three.

848
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: He did that, he averaged double figures. Let's let him

849
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: go out the way he wants to go. He deserves

850
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: to go out for a shot in the championship. I mean,

851
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: I think that I'd love to see him play. The

852
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: only reason why I don't think that'll happen is because

853
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: they picked up T J. Warren and Ross, which were

854
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: two solid I don't think people are talking enough about

855
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: those two pickups when you add a Kevin Durant and

856
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: then you add because my thing was they lost depth.

857
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: You know, so before they got Terrence Ross, I could

858
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: have seen Mellow all though their different positions at the

859
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: end of the day, their scores, you know, and and

860
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: Terrence Ross is a little younger, so I thought that

861
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: that would probably eat up because I think the didn't

862
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: Seeps say something about he wanted Mellow. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

863
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, before the Terrence Ross had

864
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: come and again, even though they don't play the same position,

865
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: they still do the same thing at the end of

866
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: the day. That I thought that could have worked there.

867
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: But I really liked, you know, those two Warren and Ross.

868
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: I think they added more depth to their team. But

869
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: I'm with you, May, I would love to see Mellow

870
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: get another chance. But it's just I mean similar, I mean,

871
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to see you get another chance at the end,

872
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's just it's weird that,

873
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: you know, when you do so much work. You put

874
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: so much work in this game really shows you that

875
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: it's a business day online. And they called me the

876
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: other day and said, when I come out for ten day,

877
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: I said, no, I can't have it. Mest of my

878
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: game and I can't have it. I'm good now, I'm good. Yeah, yeah, nah,

879
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean I would love to see, you know, get

880
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: get another run um, but it's just it's it's a

881
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: co business at the end of the day. And we

882
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of guys that are probably on there.

883
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: You know that that really our start or you know

884
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: that the Russ and you know this is kind of

885
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: his last, you know, show improved type situation because the

886
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: league for some reason, you know, it goes away from

887
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: guys faster than guys wanted to. If a team called

888
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: any of the three of you, now, do you feel

889
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: that you could go out and give him a ten

890
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: day if they gave me three weeks to get that

891
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: ten day, Yeah, I can go out and give him

892
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: any I give him a ten day coaching job. Yeah,

893
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: I'll come, I'll come watch, I'll come watch. I'll come

894
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: watch practice for ten days when I'm not working. See,

895
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: I knew him. I was going to be the only

896
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: one who would say, yeah, I could give it. No, No,

897
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: I've just heard Matt talk about his back. You know

898
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: that's Hey. MAT's a hell of a coach, though. You

899
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: gotta see him coach. He's I've been stealing from him

900
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: for real, because he's so so fired up. I was

901
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: that rookie coach fired up, and now he didn't call

902
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: me down. He'd be so zin until they don't call

903
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: it a foul, until they don't call foul fries there

904
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: late when they should have got one, and then you

905
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: see a real vat is this mail? Okay, I can't

906
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 1: see you, but I got an idea because I'm in Seattle,

907
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: and I got a nice You don't need you don't

908
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: you don't need to see you know exactly. It's all fine, Jamal.

909
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: I just like knowing that you're the one who's going

910
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: to carry all of us. We appreciate it. Let's go

911
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: down the radar presented by Draft King Sports Book. We

912
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: are in the final stretch, guys, of course of the season.

913
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: Draft King says, odds in the West, this is so interesting.

914
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: Who's going to participate in the playing tournament? Lakers specifically,

915
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: everyone's got their eyes there there at minus one ten,

916
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: and Lebron mentioned this in his All Star press conference.

917
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: He said, these upcoming twenty three games, he called them

918
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: some of the most important in my career, and any

919
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: pause for a second he goes regular season. But he

920
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: did make the point that the Lakers haven't been making

921
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He does not see himself as a guy

922
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: who sits out the playoffs for two seasons. Um, what

923
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: do you think, Matt, where are you in terms of

924
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: the Lakers actually making the plan. I think it's on

925
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: AD's health. I think they can make the playoffs if

926
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: Ads healthy. I think they made some solid moves. Um,

927
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: you know, so, I think if you can say you

928
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: can't go against Ad and Lebron, if Ad is healthy,

929
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: I think this team will you know, come out of

930
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: the play in situation into an actual playoff seed and

931
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe win a game or two in

932
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: the first round. Yeah. I don't. I don't think, no disrespect.

933
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: I just don't trust AD's health. I really don't. Not

934
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: to carry that kind of low like this team was

935
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: built for him to be the guy and it hasn't

936
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: had We've seen incredible feats Lebron's doing he's a one

937
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: on one with how his longevity and durability is. Lebron

938
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: is supposed to be the guy who's set an ad

939
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: up and taking over at the fourth quarter. We're using

940
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,479
Speaker 1: the Bron's juice first through two weeks, He's going the whole,

941
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: the whole everything. So for that, I feel like they

942
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: won't make the player. I think out of the twenty

943
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: three games they have to go like seventeen and six

944
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: in that home stretch, when you have teams Jos Jacquelin

945
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: between fourth position in twelveth position, I don't think it happens.

946
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: These games might not might be the most important, It

947
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: might not be the most important to him for his career,

948
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: but to a lot of people looking at his career,

949
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: it is because for him to go two seasons without

950
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: making a playoffs, that says a lot, you know, especially

951
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: being in that Laker uniform. They expect greatness. You just

952
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: you just broke the scoring record and the last thing

953
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: we expected for Lebron James to not being the playoffs,

954
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: especially with a player like Anthony Davis on his team,

955
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: that says a lot for them to not make the playoffs.

956
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: So it's bigger than than than he's saying. I think

957
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: in the back of his mind he knows that they

958
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: have to get in this playoffs. If they don't, a

959
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna be saying a lot of

960
00:41:52,960 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: different things about him. Currently twenty seven and thirty two,

961
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: they're in thirteenth place. If they don't make the postseason

962
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: at all, if they don't even make the plan, are

963
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: we going to start hearing some whispers about whether Lebron

964
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: stays with the team or not. That's definitely coming. That

965
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't even be important, Rachel. We're talking about we're talking

966
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: about Jordan and ghost status. That's that's what he needs

967
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: to be thinking about, not moving out with other teams.

968
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: You are the leading score in NBA history. Now it's

969
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: about winning. That's about carrying teams and separating yourself from

970
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: a lot of these conversations. Not making the playoffs is

971
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: not helping those conversations. Regardless where he goes, if he

972
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: goes to another team, that really doesn't matter because he

973
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: teamed to continue to getting older. For me, Rache, he

974
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: just trying to play with his son one year. If

975
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: he doesn't win this year, I don't think winning the

976
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: championship is gonna be his focus just playing with his son.

977
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: They definitely not winning a championship this year. None, it's

978
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: gonna be bigger than winning the championship, exolutely, exactly, Yeah, absolutely,

979
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: it was two things to check off. All time leading scorer,

980
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: play with Ronnie Man. What can you say about a

981
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: career like, right, I mean, I just think you know

982
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: when we continue to say, he's riding his ending right now,

983
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: So Jack, to your point, he's well aware. I think

984
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: what this means. I think he is downplaying, but I

985
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: also think he's being like he's being open with you,

986
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: like these next twenty three year very important, Like I

987
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: can't miss the playoffs in this uniform two years in

988
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: a row. So he's done his part, like he's been

989
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: unbelievable these last three years. This is right. It's sad

990
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: because the player is so great, they need they need

991
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: a better team around him. Well, I just hope at

992
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: that same standard though, Oh for sure, for sure, he's

993
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: gonna be hill with that standard. But he's he, I mean,

994
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: he's Jack Man is after thirty points at thirty eight,

995
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: it still looked like you got juice left. He's still

996
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: dunking like second year, and I ain't say his first year,

997
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: but like his second years still facts. But I mean

998
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: he's gonna be looking at say Phoenix and you've got

999
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: that team, and who's stacked on that team? I mean

1000
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: Lebron doesn't have a team around him like that, absolutely not.

1001
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: But his thing he has to get in the playoffs.

1002
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: So just get here and I'd be phoinished, but you

1003
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: have to get in the playoffs. Yeah, just get there.

1004
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: That's my thing that I think people are looking at

1005
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: him just to get there. No, I know, I just

1006
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: been in the summer. I just didn't know if his

1007
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: eye was going to start wandering to what other guys

1008
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: have that he doesn't have. But we'll see, we'll see.

1009
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: They have to tell you. Everything has to get told

1010
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: to Ron before everything all starts happening. You know who's

1011
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: going on? Yeah, they don't. They don't possibly get a

1012
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: chance to land Kyrie this summer race. Then we can

1013
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: talk about them bouncing, all right, All right, Well we'll

1014
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: see what happens there. We got a legendary moments broad

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1021
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: Dunk contest. What was sort of the best dunk Mac

1022
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: had to you or what was for the best moment

1023
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: to you? I think I think for me was his

1024
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: first dunk because a lot of people anticipate what we

1025
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: was gonna do. A little shark white kid, can't he

1026
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: really jump? A lot of people ain't been watching Instagram.

1027
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't know too much about him, but that first

1028
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: dunk Rachel to line two people up, jump over and

1029
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: grab the ball, tap the backboard, then dunker backwards. I

1030
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: think that that set the tone that this that Matt

1031
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: was here for real, and I was happy he was

1032
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: able to make it because a lot of guys they

1033
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: missed that first dunk and they keep trying to make

1034
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: it and they don't get up to a good start.

1035
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: Matt neil this first dunk and was able to win it. Yeah,

1036
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: that first dunk was crazy, and I didn't know what

1037
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna do because if you think about it, he

1038
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: had those two come out and they were in a

1039
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: different position. Then when he got my man got on

1040
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: the other guys shoulders and then he did what he did.

1041
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: I had to watch the replay. I didn't see the

1042
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: actual tap at first, but when he did, this is ridiculous.

1043
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: And he didn't miss a dunk like that's underrated. He

1044
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: didn't miss one of his dunks. That's appreciate multiple chances.

1045
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: But I don't know as a judge rate I would

1046
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: definitely rate a guy higher if he made the first one,

1047
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: not if he did like the fourth one. Yeah, exactly.

1048
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: And once I saw you know that he did it,

1049
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: I had to start saying fifty out loud to some

1050
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: body wouldn't come out and try to give him. Laura

1051
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: scoring forty six, so I had to say fifty fifty,

1052
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: all right, How much collusion is there up there? Though?

1053
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: How much collusion is there between the judges? Well, see

1054
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: I got criticized, but it wasn't much collusion, to be

1055
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: honest with you. I just saw with the temperament they

1056
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Speaker 1: had to fill the room and the end of the

1057
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: room was as cold as ice. I said, man, you deliver,

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Speaker 1: that's the deliver. Deliver. And I just said, Nick, we

1059
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta hold it down because it was an

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00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: average scores, so we had to make sure the right

1061
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Speaker 1: person got the average sport well, Karmelone said, going into

1062
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Speaker 1: the dunk contest, he was not giving any charitable scoring

1063
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: and he definitely had the whole time through. He had

1064
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: sort of the harshest critiques of everybody going through. Yeah,

1065
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: got enough giving back. Yeah, yea, here you go. Men,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, look at my Lake Washington. Yeah, here we

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Speaker 1: rate savers. Come on, Hall of Favorite Saving. You're asking

1068
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: me say this is a five alarm fire. You're asking

1069
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: me to come. Here's what I'm gonna say. Did you

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Speaker 1: know that you can start your NBA Top Stot collection

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Speaker 1: than ever the game and the players you love. Sign up.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, we got the Iverson Classic rosters just announced.

1074
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: We got DJ Wagner, Robert Dillingham, Justin Edwards. Several players

1075
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: from last year's game were projected lottery picks. Stack. This

1076
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: is your baby, along with mister Allen Iverson, our greatest

1077
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: living American. How far has this tournament come in the

1078
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: past few years? Man, Rachel, I'm just I'm honored. To

1079
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: say that I was been there from the start. Man.

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00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of us played in the McDonald's game,

1081
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: and that was the biggest game coming up. But the uh,

1082
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: this game is something that I wish I could have

1083
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: played in for a guy like out Anobson, God we

1084
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: look up to in a mile so much. Right, But

1085
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: this is definitely different than any All Star game or

1086
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: high school game that I've been to when I was

1087
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: playing rache because just to the events during the week,

1088
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: the hands on you have so many NBA players come

1089
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: in and give these guys advice about life basketball, you

1090
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: go to the museum. I think what Bobby and Jill

1091
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: have built along with showtime coming on, I think it's

1092
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: been beautiful for the guys and for NBA players to

1093
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: get involved with young guys and everybody get on the

1094
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: same page that week wherever the game is and this

1095
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: year is in Jersey. So shout out to everybody that's

1096
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: been involved in this game. Like you said, you got

1097
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: DJ Wagon and Robert Daling hamming. The game is gonna

1098
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: be real exciting and also it's a possibility that you

1099
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: might see a Jackson boy in the game. They too,

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00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean, can we expect, Matt, expect you guys,

1101
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: come come on. Yeah, let me check my palm pilot. Yeah,

1102
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: I need to be out there for that. I just

1103
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: saw Ai at All Star weekend and I still I

1104
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: turned into a little kid, like it don't matter what

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00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: it is. Like if I was a youngster coming up

1106
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: and I got invited to this game, I would have

1107
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: called a greyhound from seattlera memfis to get in that

1108
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: game like this is this is a stacking the cruise.

1109
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: There's no way I would have missed this. We were

1110
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: watching some footage of Alan talking in the locker room

1111
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: before last year's Classic, and we're watching him and he's

1112
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: given this hype up speech and it's incredible and the

1113
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: footage is still hanging in the air and Matt Barnes goes, yeah,

1114
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: watch Ronald McDonald do that. Huh. Now, Ronald can't give

1115
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: you the same James's chucking that cross over. Nah. I

1116
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: just think Also, what makes this game dope, um is

1117
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: the guys that do come back out and and like

1118
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: you said, Jack really put their hands on these kids

1119
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: and help give them the game and show them the

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00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: path and just a different way of thinking unlike any

1121
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: other game. You know, it's a brotherhood. I unfortunately missed

1122
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: it the last two years, but I'll be out there

1123
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: this year. But the way these older players come back

1124
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: and and kind of our mentors over the weekend and

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00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: kind of give these kids the game before they get

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Speaker 1: to the game is, I think, is what makes it special.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited for it. Uh my palm pilots that

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Speaker 1: I'm free, so I'm gonna be out there, Jack, you

1129
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: do not have a reliable palm pilot. Jamal, I'm so

1130
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: happy you could be here with us today. So backing that,

1131
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: what what which? Which? Mall did we get? We got?

1132
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Speaker 1: We got mixed tape? Mall rate, we got mixed tape.

1133
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Speaker 1: I'm telling this is definitely the funniest episode of What's Burning.

1134
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: And this is why I can't be because I really

1135
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: can't be a professional with mall on the same I

1136
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: wish I was there with y'all. Hey, hard on, Can

1137
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: I ask y'all something for real? It's crazy? And I

1138
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: told that this man y'all interview Will Smith, Magic Johnson,

1139
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 1: Charles Burn right, like to see where y'all have gone,

1140
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: Like this is y'all or beyond even I don't know

1141
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: if you thought you'd be interviewing Magic and the Will

1142
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: Smith and everything. How do y'all feel? You two specifically

1143
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: the popcorn, the pop when the popcorn start popping. You

1144
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: taught me this a long time ago showtime. When that

1145
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: popcorn start popping, that smell gets you in game time

1146
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: and get you in games there. Yeah, you know what

1147
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean. And it's the same. It's the same with this.

1148
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: You know, every opportunity we get, you know, me and

1149
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,479
Speaker 1: you talk a lot, especially about well you and Baron

1150
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: Davis are tour and then Matt, You, Baron Davis and

1151
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: matter fe people that give me the most props of

1152
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: my game and basketball everbody when we play to now.

1153
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: So we've we've always had these conversations about not getting

1154
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: out just do but to be in a situation, you know,

1155
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: to be able to be brought in this space by

1156
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: the goat Rachel Nichols, to be able to be what

1157
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: I what I built with Matt in this space. It's

1158
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: it's been all a blessing, bro. So we just take

1159
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: advantage of opportunities because we don't always get them. Yeah, No,

1160
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: I just think it's we want to inspire and encourage,

1161
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: you know, I just think it's such amazing to see

1162
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: the wave, if not just in podcasts, but just in

1163
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: media period. Like we can tell our own stories now

1164
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: and we know how to articulate our thoughts, you know,

1165
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: to viewers, and I think there's an appreciation for that. Um.

1166
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: So we just want to do our part to continue

1167
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: to do that, continue to inspire, continue motivate, uh, you know,

1168
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: continue to raise the bar and and and challenge each

1169
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: other because I think this is a dope space with

1170
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: a lot of money in it, and we can all

1171
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: keep getting this money, just like we're getting the money

1172
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: in the league. And for you, right for you you

1173
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: being back, like, man, how's that baby? Yeah? We all

1174
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: mister presidents. How you feeling? How are you feeling well?

1175
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: Because I get to be back with you guys. I

1176
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: mean it's funny. There's all kinds of people out there

1177
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: in the basketball space, right, but you want to talk

1178
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: about why Matt and Stack have been so successful and

1179
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: just skyrocketing up. It's because they're real, right, And that's

1180
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: what all showtime basketball has been. Like, you got people

1181
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: on here saying real shit, and that has been one

1182
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: of the most fun things for me to be back

1183
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: and kind of being able to talk about stuff is

1184
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: that no one's given presentations here um on behalf of

1185
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: anyone or anything. Everyone's really talking what they feel. And

1186
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: I love that and I love That's what this This

1187
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,479
Speaker 1: has kind of become the space Jamal Jamal. Name another

1188
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: show that Rachel could be hosting and someone could like

1189
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: to joint in the middle of the show, and nothing

1190
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 1: happened to happen. It's nothing happened to nobody. Nothing happens

1191
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: to nobody. It ain't proud to votus. Now. We appreciate you, man,

1192
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: We look forward to having you back. You know, whenever

1193
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: you get some time. We know you're busy, but whenever

1194
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: you get some time, whenever pop in on us, it's family.

1195
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: Whenever you already know, congrat and congrats to your new

1196
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: gig too, bro doing big shit on t Yes, sir,

1197
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Bro, I appreciate what She's always inspired.

1198
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: And Rachel saw something all of us before because she

1199
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: she talks to me years ago when I wasn't even

1200
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: thinking about media, like you're gonna be pretty good, and

1201
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, and she obviously had you guys like, so

1202
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,959
Speaker 1: you gotta she gotta not for talent. Yeah, without a doubt,

1203
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm a good talent scout. It's not hard, y'all. Guys

1204
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: make it easy for sure. Well, Maul, we are requiring

1205
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: you to come back soon. Everyone else out there, you

1206
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 1: can catch what's burning every week on Showtime Basketball YouTube

1207
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: and what else that and on Twitter Instagram at TikTok

1208
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: Show Basketball Boom. He's got it, You got it. Good

1209
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: day y'all. Y'all you know, thank y'all appreciate it. M

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Speaker 1: h m.